Speaker 1: Hey, Ryan, is Kansas still finishing top three in the league?
Speaker 1: For sure, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to talk about those rumors, those allegations
Speaker 2: not feeling it Landed just not feeling it on.
Speaker 1: Me either, me either. I just wasn't ever feeling that.
Speaker 3: I just pooped my pants and I accomplished more than
Speaker 3: Kansas didn't. The stand in Utah.
Speaker 1: Hey, don't count them out yet, sir. They have a
Speaker 1: trip to Provo coming up. They could get it done
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Scratch that, I'll make sure to poop my pants aways.
Speaker 4: That that wouldn't do it. That would be where that
Speaker 4: campus will do. I always forget this part of the song.
Speaker 3: You know what, I just realized there's a great pun
Speaker 3: that can be made because I'm like the students of
Speaker 3: p YU who are debt or Utah were soaky not so.
Speaker 2: That feels like a good place to cut off the
Speaker 2: music and enter a crashdown. So cam uh first first season?
Speaker 2: This is your first It's this is the the James
Speaker 2: Franco with the great season, James Franco noose around his neck,
Speaker 2: that's Landon and I are looking at you going so
Speaker 2: first time? Huh? This is so your first season of
Speaker 2: ITP what you thought would begin with that preseason number
Speaker 2: one team?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Show twenty eight is here, and yeah, there are what
Speaker 2: five F bombs and the show notes title there are
Speaker 2: eight sad landings And here we are talking about Kansas
Speaker 2: losing to the team that was picked to finish last
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve for the second year in a
Speaker 2: row that that's been the case.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: How did you sure you didn't see that coming?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's pretty impressive. I Steviewonder dot Gift
Speaker 3: did not see that coming. And also I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone did. But thereseason number one curse appears to be
Speaker 3: living on. And I tell you what, if Kansas is
Speaker 3: ranked preseason number one next year, I might as well
Speaker 3: to start up my own podcast called Finding God with Him,
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna need it. I would listen to that podcast. Goodness, gracious,
Speaker 3: these guys. It would just be me reciting gibberish, which
Speaker 3: is what the show is. Welcome Land.
Speaker 2: To answer your question, No, I do not believe the
Speaker 2: Jayhawks will still be finishing top three in the Big Twelve. However,
Speaker 2: I don't believe that any of us saw that coming,
Speaker 2: even you two that had kind of almost given up
Speaker 2: on this team. Then they go loose to Utah in
Speaker 2: a game that we all picked them to win kind
Speaker 2: of by almost double digits. No Vegas thought they'd win
Speaker 2: by double digits. Close Vegas had him as a nine
Speaker 2: point favorite to open that Vegas sock. It went down
Speaker 2: to six. So all the sharp money knew exactly what
Speaker 2: side of the bill line of the line to bet on.
Speaker 2: And if you bet the money line, well you won.
Speaker 2: Because Kansas took a loss, that's their eighth loss in
Speaker 2: the last ten games. Or no, not, that's not right.
Speaker 2: Eighteen games, eight loss since December fourth, which wasn't that
Speaker 2: long ago. It has almost snowed as many times here
Speaker 2: in Kansas City as its as the Jayhawks have lost
Speaker 2: basketball games.
Speaker 3: That's bad.
Speaker 2: This is itp Utah lost edition.
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Landreth, I'm Landing Fields.
Speaker 3: Then I'm cam.
Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2: No agenda today, No, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Let's just talk all about Kansas and yep, all right, okay,
Speaker 2: Utah seventy four. Wait, that can't be right. We don't
Speaker 2: normally read the losing team's score for oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: that boy number seventeen Kansas sixty seven. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lead off. I feel like one of you two should cam.
Speaker 2: You didn't even watch it live. You fell asleep, woke up,
Speaker 2: let's see how much they won by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no joke to all of our listeners. I actually
Speaker 3: fell asleep at halftime during this game. I had my
Speaker 3: phone on and had full intentions of watching.
Speaker 2: During this game, this riveting, exciting, balls to the wall game.
Speaker 2: You fell asleep, tip yep.
Speaker 3: I genuinely did not care. I figured within the first
Speaker 3: ten minutes Kansas was probably gonna lose, and then like
Speaker 3: by halftime it was close. It's like, ah, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll be fine. Went to sleep, woke up at like
Speaker 3: two in the morning, my phone still had the screen on.
Speaker 3: I'm like looking at the box scorn, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: first team score that I see Kansas looks like they
Speaker 3: scored sixty seven. You must be less than that. Oh boy,
Speaker 3: they have a seven in front of their score. That's
Speaker 3: not great.
Speaker 2: So if you're listening to this, it's probably a snow
Speaker 2: day where you're at Hopefully you're at home not having
Speaker 2: to drive around. If you are driving around, hope you
Speaker 2: stay safe and don't swerve off the road hearing all
Speaker 2: the goat screams in the background. Take your time on
Speaker 2: the streets out there. Pretend you're Dwan Harris. You got
Speaker 2: thirty seconds on that shot clock, going dribble around for
Speaker 2: a little bit. Just take your time, don't rush, no
Speaker 2: need to hurry. But if you are at home and
Speaker 2: you want to kind of know what that game felt
Speaker 2: like watching it, go pull on your pants, expose your
Speaker 2: your whatever whatever lies beneath your waistline, and go stick
Speaker 2: it in the snow and the minus thirty degree wind chill,
Speaker 2: and leave it there till it freezes and falls off.
Speaker 2: Because that is what it has been like to watch
Speaker 2: the last what ten ish weeks of Bill Self's preseason
Speaker 2: number one Jayhawk.
Speaker 3: I kind of lost Utah Kansas's offense right now, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: buckle up Kansas's offense, right I was kind of like
Speaker 3: that one dude that you like. The light turns yellow
Speaker 3: and he's in the left turn lane and he's just
Speaker 3: like inching inching forward and at the last second decides
Speaker 3: just make a you know, a bolt for the lane
Speaker 3: that's Dwan Harris and left of the shot clock and
Speaker 3: much so.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's this drop. It starts with tire screeching and
Speaker 2: ends in a crash. That's the gym ahin drops, so
Speaker 2: to call it here on this podcast, landon why has
Speaker 2: the season cooked? Whatever could have happened in this game
Speaker 2: that would make us think the season's cooked? They were
Speaker 2: a nine point favorite and Utah was picked to finish last. Hell,
Speaker 2: Utah's best win was like Cincinnati. There's no way Bill's
Speaker 2: preseason number one Jay aug could have done the unthinkable?
Speaker 2: Could they? Oh?
Speaker 1: They did? They did. Kansas or Utah held a small
Speaker 1: lead for most of the night. I had the reverse
Speaker 1: experience to cam by the Way, where I did not
Speaker 1: watch the first half. I was hanging out with some friends.
Speaker 1: We went out, we got some burgers, we watched a movie.
Speaker 1: I was checking the score on and off. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Kansas is down thirteen to five. Super normal to be
Speaker 1: down thirteen to five to Utah, except checking they were
Speaker 1: continuing to be down. I was like, this is this
Speaker 1: is not good. And that was where Uta sat for
Speaker 1: most of the night. Utah did take a double digit
Speaker 1: sixty to forty nine lead with twelve minutes left, and
Speaker 1: then Utah stopped scoring for nearly eight minutes seven minute
Speaker 1: long scoring drought. Kansas still trailed after Utah had a
Speaker 1: seven over seven minute scoring drought. They did tie it
Speaker 1: with five minutes left, but they only scored seven points
Speaker 1: the rest of the night. They got daggered by a
Speaker 1: white dude with a man vun setting a school record
Speaker 1: for three pointers. As the prophecy states, that was the
Speaker 1: second coming of Phil Forte with hair.
Speaker 2: And there is a very it's a good omen to
Speaker 2: what's about to happen in their next game. We have
Speaker 2: this drop on this board and originally here it is, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a very sad, sad loss. So originally the
Speaker 2: very first sad sad loss was when Kansas lost to
Speaker 2: an Iowa state team in twenty fourteen that wounded up
Speaker 2: making the Sweet sixteen in the Big Twelve Tournament. It
Speaker 2: really wasn't that sad, sad of a loss. We just
Speaker 2: had a not very interested in the game co host
Speaker 2: that wasn't paying attention to my game recap, so that's
Speaker 2: all he could muster at the time. And I feel
Speaker 2: like that that drop, that drop was made for games
Speaker 2: like this, because oh was this a very sad, sad loss.
Speaker 2: And you know what's amazing, Cam is I with?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: So Lammon's eyes didn't watch the first half. Your eyes
Speaker 2: didn't watch the second half. My eyes watched a game,
Speaker 2: I swear, according to watch, Well, no, I watched something
Speaker 2: much better earlier in the day. According to the Internet,
Speaker 2: every article I can find states that it was indeed
Speaker 2: the same sport I was watching that Auburn and Alabama
Speaker 2: played a couple of hours before Kansas took the floor
Speaker 2: to play the allegedly the same sport. How is that possible?
Speaker 2: So Alabama, who we all have just a full on
Speaker 2: Nate's Oates fetish for everybody who's new to this show.
Speaker 2: And Alabama's shot chart is a thing of modern basketball beauty.
Speaker 2: All they do is shoot within two feet of the
Speaker 2: rim or it's a three. There are no floaters, there
Speaker 2: are no mid range jays, there are no elbow jumpers.
Speaker 2: It is dunk, lay up, get fouled, or three.
Speaker 1: And it there is no dribble around for forty eight seconds,
Speaker 1: even though that's like antithetical to the shot clock for
Speaker 1: a step back mid range.
Speaker 2: And what helps is everybody on the floor almost always
Speaker 2: for them, can shoot. Same with Auburn, whose five man
Speaker 2: shoots threes at a very high clip. So then you
Speaker 2: watch Kansas where, oh my gosh, they they they acted
Speaker 2: like the long range twelve foot floaters were worth eight
Speaker 2: points in the second half. It's like they and Bill
Speaker 2: piss pants. Bill, who's calls the same dumbass play every
Speaker 2: single time? And this was at the end of the
Speaker 2: game when David Koit was trying to throw the law
Speaker 2: the little hook pass the hundred Dickinson, and he threw
Speaker 2: a horrible pass and it was stolen, and Bill starts
Speaker 2: up in his feet like he's stepped in dog poop.
Speaker 2: Over there, he's trying to get it off his shoes
Speaker 2: on the sideline. He starts stomping his feet, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's your play, nineteen eighties, Bill, over there, that's all
Speaker 2: you call. How can you be surprised in late February
Speaker 2: that it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It's not only well, my comeback attempt against a bad
Speaker 1: team on the road isn't working because I'm not coaching
Speaker 1: my team very well. How could this happen?
Speaker 2: Whose fault is it?
Speaker 3: Not mine?
Speaker 2: It's not even that it's like late in the year.
Speaker 3: It's the fact that it's two years in a row
Speaker 3: where we've seen the same thing and they just don't
Speaker 3: have it, Like, none of this makes sense. Go in
Speaker 3: the portal, get shooters, scare them to not shoot, and
Speaker 3: then expect them to shoot more somehow, but they don't
Speaker 3: want to shoot. And so then you have Dewana Harris,
Speaker 3: who is sometimes a liability with a headband shooting floaters,
Speaker 3: and then kJ Adams playing thirty one minutes and logging
Speaker 3: like four stats, and then me losing money on DraftKings.
Speaker 2: Still sad. Everything sucks.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm full blown meltdown mode right now over
Speaker 3: this team. They suck.
Speaker 2: Well, then look and I don't think I don't think
Speaker 2: it's fair just yet they do say it's over. It's no. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this seam is, this team is is as cooked as
Speaker 2: that pig with a fifteen on it and a wig
Speaker 2: that they had at the Eagle Super Bowl parade the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 3: This is this team might have had an actual stroke
Speaker 3: in the hospital. I don't think it was a hard thing.
Speaker 3: I think he actually had a stroke.
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to say that it's over for Bill self,
Speaker 2: because he's gonna reset and get this core out of here,
Speaker 2: and he's going to have a future potential NBA All
Speaker 2: Star leading his team next year. It's been proven over
Speaker 2: and over again. You have to have pros to win
Speaker 2: in college basketball in this day and age. Kansas I'm
Speaker 2: not sure has a pro. It might be Dickinson Doonga
Speaker 2: in the future. Maybe, uh, we'll see. I would be
Speaker 2: willing to take you up on a bet that.
Speaker 3: On Tigers.
Speaker 2: I think he'll start in Europe, but I think Hunter
Speaker 2: Dickinson as a seven to two stretch five will essentially
Speaker 2: play in the NBA a little bit. It's not good.
Speaker 2: He will log five minutes borderline pro whatever. They don't
Speaker 2: have an NBA guy unless you're counting Florey, who is
Speaker 2: not on draft boards at this point. I'm not willing
Speaker 2: to say that it's all curtains for Bill self. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Bruce Pearl is older than Bill self
Speaker 2: and had to completely adjust his coaching strategy. And you
Speaker 2: see Auburn's offense, it doesn't look at all like what
Speaker 2: Bruce Pearl's offense did whenever he coached at Tennessee and
Speaker 2: had a lot of success. Kelvin Sampson is almost seventy
Speaker 2: years old. He's a lot older than Bill self. He
Speaker 2: has completely overhauled his offense too. They shoot as many
Speaker 2: threes as any team in the Big Twelve not named BYU.
Speaker 2: They have completely adjusted how to win in today's modern era,
Speaker 2: and look at the results Bill self is trying. I'm
Speaker 2: amazed he didn't try to run the weave out there.
Speaker 2: He did everything else. And like the music, remember how
Speaker 2: he used to play this, the old March Madness intro.
Speaker 2: This is how Bill self wants to play. And oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, Bill, if you're gonna play three bigs,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna play three bigs, they better be able
Speaker 2: to rebound miss free throws. They couldn't do it and
Speaker 2: Kansas lost that also, whatever, just take it away, I.
Speaker 1: Would I would like to clarify one thing. You guys
Speaker 1: are saying that Bill Self is coaching this team right,
Speaker 1: and it's not a defensive minded clone of John cal Perry.
Speaker 2: And off it looks an awful lot like. And that's
Speaker 2: what makes me nervous because if they if next year
Speaker 2: doesn't go very well, if Darren Peterson is just alright
Speaker 2: and isn't the the the savior of this team that
Speaker 2: we think he will be, and maybe Florie doesn't come
Speaker 2: back in the five positions up in the air, and
Speaker 2: you know, if they're if they're okay, if they're the
Speaker 2: fifth best team in the Big twelve next year, then
Speaker 2: it's really going to look like it did at the
Speaker 2: end for John Caliperry at Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Correct, People are making that comparison now, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it's fair until we can zee Bill self flush
Speaker 2: this core. But it is looking a little bit like that.
Speaker 2: He has to hit it out of the park this
Speaker 2: Transfer Portal season coming up. I mean, it's it's not
Speaker 2: fair because he won a title three years ago. Caliperi
Speaker 2: didn't win a title since twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: Granted, you look at the sample size of the Portal
Speaker 3: era and you can say that I guess the first
Speaker 3: year was right, nil transfer Portal. Correct, that was the
Speaker 3: first year when they won the title. But since then, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not been great technically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but with the exception of Remy Martin, that entire
Speaker 2: team was homegrown and also had pros on it. It
Speaker 2: had three pros on that roster, which you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's obviously desperately needed. I don't know if this team
Speaker 2: has a pro unless you count Flory eventually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I kind of think this season
Speaker 3: is cooked and like to be it's funny I saw something,
Speaker 3: is it Evan Maya or Evan Miya? He does like
Speaker 3: college bass well analytics or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sends, uh, he sent me that. He sent
Speaker 2: me that on Rock Chuck blog. How he says that
Speaker 2: he's buying low on Kansas saying that, yeah, if you ignore,
Speaker 2: if you ignore the eye test, they from a perspective,
Speaker 2: still resemble a team that has a good chance of
Speaker 2: making the second weekend. Like and it's literally cratch off
Speaker 2: if you're capable of holding your nose while you say it.
Speaker 2: They they do have the talent and the metrics suggest
Speaker 2: buying low might not be the worst decision. But also
Speaker 2: in our case when we watch it, they lost to Utah.
Speaker 2: That's it's usually not what teams that are getting ready
Speaker 2: to go on a big run in March. They also
Speaker 2: don't have the offense. Their offense is bad, dude.
Speaker 3: It's like going on a date with a girl that
Speaker 3: has more red flags than a Chinese Communist Party Olympic
Speaker 3: ceremony and going this is fine.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of red flags, uh, if losing losing to
Speaker 2: a sob U seventy five team on Ken Palm. That
Speaker 2: is a red flag. This is just the seventh time
Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years. It feels like that they
Speaker 2: lose stupid games sometimes, but you know, they lose the
Speaker 2: teams in like that forty to sixty range in Ken
Speaker 2: Palm quite a bit. But it's very rare that they
Speaker 2: lose to a team that's outside the top seventy five
Speaker 2: and Ken Palm. And that is after this they were
Speaker 2: in the eighties before the win. Utah is seventy eight
Speaker 2: right now in Ken Palm. Seventh time in the last
Speaker 2: fifteen years that Kansas has lost to a team outside
Speaker 2: the top seventy five and Ken Palm. It is one
Speaker 2: of the worst losses statistically and from an eye test
Speaker 2: perspective in the self era by the way that TCU
Speaker 2: loss so there are there have been seven. Can you
Speaker 2: guys name the seven losses in the last fifteen years
Speaker 2: to teams that finished outside the top seventy five on
Speaker 2: ken Pom. One of the worst losses.
Speaker 1: You remember, uh, I think you tweeted it. I did
Speaker 1: actually see the tweet earlier. I can't remember. Actually it
Speaker 1: was all on it. There was a real one to
Speaker 1: West Virginia that was like one hundred and forty fourth
Speaker 1: Ken Pom or something.
Speaker 2: That was last year. That was the team, Yeah, in
Speaker 2: West Virginia. Washington was the second worst after West actually
Speaker 2: the third worst because the first one was TCU who
Speaker 2: was two hundred and sixty fifth and Ken Palm in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: One of them.
Speaker 2: That's not only the that's not only the most stunny
Speaker 2: boss of the celf era. That may be one of
Speaker 2: the five biggest upsets in college basketball the last however
Speaker 2: many years. That's insane. K State in twenty fifteen barely
Speaker 2: finished up to the top seventy five, the final year
Speaker 2: of the Thomas Gibson era. Oklahoma State against the team
Speaker 2: that finished number one overall in the country in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: blew them out in January. Washington. As you said, West
Speaker 2: Virginia the year with Gerald Vick's nuclear start in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: West Virginia again last year and the Josh Eilert game,
Speaker 2: legacy game, and then Utah like this is bad. This
Speaker 2: is the eye test, suggest that it came at a
Speaker 2: horrible time, and I think that's what makes us worse.
Speaker 2: Some of those losses have randomly and then they got
Speaker 2: right back on their horse. Right the Oklahoma State loss
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, that team was a week away from
Speaker 2: starting a seventeen game winning streak. This Utah game comes
Speaker 2: at a time where you could ill afford to lose
Speaker 2: any more games outside the ones that were slam dunk
Speaker 2: losses like at Houston, and boy did they just go
Speaker 2: out there and lay an egg?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, also, do you have any confidence that
Speaker 3: this team can win more than two games in a row.
Speaker 2: They haven't won two games in a row. Let's start
Speaker 2: with more than one game in a row. They haven't
Speaker 2: won two in a row since since the middle part
Speaker 2: of January, Like, it has been a long time since
Speaker 2: they've won two games in a row.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean that to me goes to like,
Speaker 3: not not to just sound like a just dude on
Speaker 3: Twitter that has no concept of what's going on, but
Speaker 3: to me, that speaks to leadership, the fact that this
Speaker 3: roster does not work and this team just does not
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the last time that Kansas won
Speaker 2: four conference games in a row. Kansas hasn't won four
Speaker 2: conference games in a row since February twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: They've only won three in a row once and that
Speaker 2: was the games two, three, and four of this Big
Speaker 2: twelve season, So like that's that's impossible. They're not stringing
Speaker 2: together victories at all. Last year, their longest conference winning
Speaker 2: streak was two and this year they did get the
Speaker 2: three early, but no, their last two game winning streak
Speaker 2: camp was January twenty second, when they beat Kansas State
Speaker 2: and at TCU, which, oh, by the way, were the
Speaker 2: first two games that somebody missed due to injury. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about it. Let's start with the bigs Landon. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about the bigs, the whatever, just go for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much everyone played poorly here. One hundred picks
Speaker 1: a terrible time for his worst game of the season.
Speaker 1: He finished with twelve points seven rebounds in twenty nine minutes.
Speaker 1: Even that line was worse until five garbage time points
Speaker 1: in the final sixty seconds, So yeah, he had seven
Speaker 1: points up until the last minute of the game because
Speaker 1: he was totally bottled up all night by Utah's height.
Speaker 1: He was four for twelve from the floor, including three
Speaker 1: for ten from two. He did have four block shots,
Speaker 1: but he also fouled four times. He was not good.
Speaker 1: Also kJ Adams, and he played twenty six minutes. He
Speaker 1: finished with four points, three rebounds, and he fouled out.
Speaker 2: Wait kJ fouled out. No no, no, no, no, Landon
Speaker 2: kJ Adams, the guy that does all the intangible things
Speaker 2: and makes all the smart plays.
Speaker 1: Hey, man, you wrote the notes unbelievable. I assume Lo
Speaker 1: his energy, he would never foul out. His energy alone
Speaker 1: would retain him at no more than four fouls.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm surprised Bill didn't say he was fabulous like
Speaker 2: he does every other game. Cam, I'll give you the
Speaker 2: floor here in just the second. Here's what I'll say
Speaker 2: about these two hundred. Dickinson played his worst game I've
Speaker 2: seen him play as a Jayhawk, and boy do you
Speaker 2: notice whenever he doesn't play very well. Also, I know that,
Speaker 2: but I'm trying not to be a box score merchant
Speaker 2: about everything. But like stats do matter, that points in
Speaker 2: rebounds matter. Hunter Dickinson gets twelve and seven and it
Speaker 2: is the worst game he will ever play as a Jayhawk.
Speaker 2: kJ gets ten and five. Last week in a game
Speaker 2: where Kansas beats call a freaking Ratto by twelve points
Speaker 2: and Everyone's like, oh my god, I can't believe you
Speaker 2: would suggest that he was anything but a shining star
Speaker 2: out there. Hunter's worst statistical game is every bit like
Speaker 2: if kJ had twelve and seven, it'd be his best
Speaker 2: game of Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Play correct, Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2: Here's your stat. Here is your stat. So the night
Speaker 2: that kJ got hurt on a lousy night in Ames,
Speaker 2: when Kansas lost for the fourth time in a nine
Speaker 2: game stretch, Flory was then entered into the starting lineup.
Speaker 2: He averaged ten to ten, which is a double double
Speaker 2: for a four game stretch where Kansas went three to one,
Speaker 2: with the one loss being that once in a decade
Speaker 2: collapse against Houston, So they almost did have a four
Speaker 2: game winning streak there. They were clearly playing better and
Speaker 2: their most talented player was developing rapidly. We said he
Speaker 2: was developing quicker than any freshman since Joelle Embiide. It
Speaker 2: was at this exact moment that Bill self said, all right, kJ,
Speaker 2: gets your ass back in that starting lineup and go
Speaker 2: energy it up. He cut Flori's minutes in half, and
Speaker 2: Kansas is two and three since Bill self put kJ
Speaker 2: Adams back into the starting lineup. It is not as
Speaker 2: simple as just saying Kansas sucks with kJ and they
Speaker 2: rock without him, but that sure tells you something.
Speaker 1: I believe they dissed you.
Speaker 2: I believe that this team's best stretch happened when kJ
Speaker 2: Adams didn't play. And it's not because they didn't miss kJ.
Speaker 2: It's because Flory, a better basketball player than kJ, was
Speaker 2: getting the opportunity to come into his own And now
Speaker 2: Bill self putting kJ back out there in a thirty
Speaker 2: five minutes a game role has completely shelled Florie's confidence
Speaker 2: and the team is actively word.
Speaker 1: Uh they are, and Floria is a better fit. Floria
Speaker 1: is a better fit.
Speaker 2: Than kJ, and a better scorer and a better rebounder
Speaker 2: and a better shot blocker and a better post defender.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's hilarious because you look at the roster.
Speaker 3: Bill Sooffle likes to play two bigs, but one of
Speaker 3: those bigs is undersized and can't do things that big
Speaker 3: men do, so that doesn't check out whatsoever and guards do.
Speaker 3: So there's just nothing there. Like I don't care. You
Speaker 3: can go on you know what, I don't even care.
Speaker 3: You can't go on to Twitter and claim energy is
Speaker 3: what this team needs. When you see guys playing with
Speaker 3: energy and Kansas losing to Utah, it's Utah.
Speaker 2: They suck.
Speaker 3: They suck, They suck, they suck. I'm watching them play
Speaker 3: right now. This dude is a walking liability with a headband.
Speaker 3: The worst free throw shooter I've seen in my entire life.
Speaker 3: Kansas went and lost to these guys. Kansas State is
Speaker 3: playing them better than Kansas. It's an embarrassment. Adams, great guy,
Speaker 3: shouldn't play more than ten minutes per game. I don't
Speaker 3: care what anybody says. It's ridiculous. Sorry, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't be like all this guy may not score
Speaker 2: in rebound, but damn does he play energy and defense?
Speaker 2: And then what the last month we got Baylor hanging
Speaker 2: sixty on him in a half when kJ was defending
Speaker 2: his way out there. To that, you have the lackluster
Speaker 2: Colorado and Utah week where absolutely no f's were given
Speaker 2: from an energy perspective.
Speaker 3: Like the congratulations he plays hard. Anyone can play hard.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you have to suck at basketball to
Speaker 3: play hard. He does. Sorry, he doesn't suck at basketball.
Speaker 3: It's just it's so ridiculous watching thirty plus minutes for
Speaker 3: a guy that can't shoot, can't rebound, can't handle the ball. Congratulations,
Speaker 3: get floor burns. It's awesome. Holy cow.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Bill Self ever thought Dwan Harris
Speaker 2: and kJ Adams would play this much? Or do you
Speaker 2: think that he thought that they would and just would
Speaker 2: be better than they actually wound up being as seniors.
Speaker 1: Second, I think he still thinks they're better than they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. That's that was the third option.
Speaker 2: I was gonna see if either one of you brought
Speaker 2: that up. Like, I think he still thinks that Harris
Speaker 2: is an All League caliber point guard and that kJ
Speaker 2: is one of the most valuable players in the conference.
Speaker 3: He does, and that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: We watched Alabama and Auburn. We watched that game. kJ
Speaker 2: Adams wouldn't play on that roster. He wouldn't play. They
Speaker 2: would not have a use for a guy that can't
Speaker 2: rebounder score, and Dwan Harris wouldn't either because he's not
Speaker 2: a score first point guard.
Speaker 1: Now, also Bill Self, Like Bill, he has coached great teams,
Speaker 1: like great basketball teams. He has coached so many excellent
Speaker 1: teams and excellent players and excellent squads. That work together
Speaker 1: so well and created some beautiful basketball and some wonderful
Speaker 1: memories from my childhood. What has Bill learned from any
Speaker 1: of that? Like, this is the guy with twenty years
Speaker 1: at this school alone. What has he seen from all
Speaker 1: of that that he sees on this team? And I
Speaker 1: know that at this point in the season, you're stuck
Speaker 1: with what you have. He can't just go in the
Speaker 1: portal and find Frank Mason two point zero or Devonte
Speaker 1: Graham again, you know he can't obviously, like he can't
Speaker 1: do that. But but nonetheless, like what did he see
Speaker 1: Indwan Harris that were And I know Dewe. Harris was
Speaker 1: quite literally on the team that won the national title
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. I'm aware of that. But as
Speaker 1: was brought up, that was surrounded by three pros and
Speaker 1: a two thousand point college scorer in the backcourt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's make.
Speaker 3: Up for things.
Speaker 2: His only Sweet sixteen appearance in his last five tournaments
Speaker 2: happened when he had a dynamic score first point guard,
Speaker 2: saving their ass from what would be five consecutive round
Speaker 2: of thirty two losses. And his response to that was
Speaker 2: he gets out Marco Jackson, who didn't wind up being
Speaker 2: so No. The next year was the Harris Dick Wilson year,
Speaker 2: and Harris was good that year. He also, as as
Speaker 2: we admit, had had multiple pros to pass it to,
Speaker 2: and kJ had his best season at the five. And
Speaker 2: then the next year you run it back with Harris,
Speaker 2: but you get on Marco Jackson, who figures to play
Speaker 2: a little bit of the combo guard and he wasn't
Speaker 2: nearly as good as he thought that they'd be. And
Speaker 2: then this year self runs it back exclusively with Harris.
Speaker 2: Self goes and gets two point guards, including one that
Speaker 2: came at the expense of LeBaron Philon, who is a
Speaker 2: monster freshman at Alabama. He walks out the door and
Speaker 2: we run it back. Self's got three or four guys
Speaker 2: that can hindle the ball on this roster. And that's
Speaker 2: not even County on Marco, who was supposed to be
Speaker 2: here but got hurt and he still plays Harris thirty
Speaker 2: seven minutes in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's just it's insane. Twan. Harris would be a great
Speaker 3: point guard if he is, like Landon said, surrounded by
Speaker 3: three NBA style wing that's what he.
Speaker 2: He's a backup he's a backup point guard. He is
Speaker 2: the shack more that's the role he should play. He's
Speaker 2: a very good defensive point guard who has a role.
Speaker 2: I think you can make it work with him as
Speaker 2: the primary point guard if you surround him with pros.
Speaker 2: But he's like in this game, what did he score
Speaker 2: in the second half? I wrote these notes. He had
Speaker 2: a great first half. Here it is Dwan Harris. Fourteen
Speaker 2: points and four assists in thirty seven minutes, going six
Speaker 2: for twelve from the floor. He played fine overall in
Speaker 2: this game. He wasn't the reason they lost, but he
Speaker 2: didn't do anything down the stretch. He didn't score in
Speaker 2: the final fifteen minutes. Earlier this week, for the millionth time,
Speaker 2: Bill self stumbles into Johnny's tavern and on Hawk Talk says,
Speaker 2: I really gotta get Harris's minutes down to the twenty
Speaker 2: six to twenty eight minutes per game range. He has
Speaker 2: said that in every week.
Speaker 1: You know what he really means by that, Ryan, Though
Speaker 1: he doesn't mean that he is gonna intentionally sit Harris.
Speaker 1: He means they want to win games by more. That's
Speaker 1: what he means when he says he wants to play
Speaker 1: Harris last is they just need to win so that
Speaker 1: Harris doesn't have to because in his mind there is
Speaker 1: no separation between winning games and playing Dewan Harris a lot.
Speaker 1: If you're in a close game, how could you possibly
Speaker 1: not have Dewan Harris out there, the Savior, the sun,
Speaker 1: god of the universe, Dwan Harris to lead you to victory.
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't want to just totally rag on
Speaker 2: these guys because Harris.
Speaker 1: Bill self has completely lost that. I'm sorry that might
Speaker 1: sound like a crazy take, but Bill self has no
Speaker 1: clue what he's doing. He's completely lost it. He has
Speaker 1: completely lost the hold of this roster. We and I
Speaker 1: said this in twenty twenty two, So if the same
Speaker 1: thing happens that happened in twenty twenty two, you're freaking welcome.
Speaker 1: But Bill self, we could do more with this team
Speaker 1: than Bill self is doing. We could do more with
Speaker 1: this team than Bill self is doing. If they go
Speaker 1: win the Natty and cut down the nets in a
Speaker 1: couple months, you're welcome. Bill self has no clue, no
Speaker 1: clue on this planet what he is doing with this team. DEWE.
Speaker 1: Harris should not be anywhere near this program. He is
Speaker 1: not good enough to play for Kansas. kJ Adams does
Speaker 1: not fit on this roster. He should not play, He
Speaker 1: should never play again. He should never play a single
Speaker 1: minute for Kansas ever again. And Hunter Dickinson can play,
Speaker 1: but if he does play, Dwan Harris and Cage Adams
Speaker 1: cannot be on the floor because they do not work together.
Speaker 1: And this team will lose several more basketball games if
Speaker 1: that is the case. And yeah, that's the That last
Speaker 1: point is the one I want to jump on here.
Speaker 2: You've lost a billion. It's not actually a billion, but
Speaker 2: it is what fourteen fifteen if you count the Cincinnati Tournament,
Speaker 2: lost fifteen big twelve games in the last two years,
Speaker 2: with plenty more on the way. How can you with
Speaker 2: his straight face? And I know it's easy to act
Speaker 2: like the sky isn't falling as it would be for
Speaker 2: most teams. Right they're a four or five seed right now,
Speaker 2: trending downward. But there's still there's still a top twenty
Speaker 2: five team right now. So it may sound kind of
Speaker 2: stupid to say, like Barry and fire everybody, But I
Speaker 2: don't understand how this coaching staff, considering what has happened
Speaker 2: now for the better part of two years, can not
Speaker 2: change that. Harris Dickinson Adams playing all the minute.
Speaker 1: What are they watching?
Speaker 3: But it's it's not even that.
Speaker 2: Why do you want more of that?
Speaker 3: It's not even that. If you look at the offensive
Speaker 3: ratings on Ken Palm for the last like five seasons,
Speaker 3: outside of the twenty twenty two Natty year, it's been
Speaker 3: like close to fifty every single year, it was like fifth.
Speaker 3: I don't quote me on this new market. Garrett forty one.
Speaker 1: Harris have led those teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just the nineteen team. The nineteen
Speaker 2: team was just ravaged by injuries. They lost their seventy
Speaker 2: five percent field goal shooter, dunk Fest of a center
Speaker 2: to a wrist injury, and then Legerald Vick, their best shooter,
Speaker 2: left the program. That you give him a mulligan there,
Speaker 2: especially when twenty bounced back strong twenty one. They put
Speaker 2: all their eggs in the Garrett basket. They thought Thompson
Speaker 2: would be better than he was. It didn't happen. Okay,
Speaker 2: you flush it. The core comes back. They win a
Speaker 2: Natty the next year, save by Remy Martin, the exact
Speaker 2: sort of player that you have not recruited in a
Speaker 2: very long time, and then yeah, then you run back
Speaker 2: for our three straight years of starting point guard to
Speaker 2: one Hair Harris. Who has Dewan Harris scored twenty points
Speaker 2: in a game at Kansas. Has that happened?
Speaker 1: Wasn't a Kentucky game at the beginning of last year?
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, he did have the one Kentucky game
Speaker 2: where everything went right. He started one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: some games at Kansas or played that many, and he
Speaker 2: has one twenty point game. That's a solid first half
Speaker 2: for Darren Peterson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think you can have a guy
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands for that amount of
Speaker 3: time per game. That's just not a scoring threat, especially
Speaker 3: in today's college game.
Speaker 2: God. Dewan Harris's game log page it almost crashes the
Speaker 2: computer because it takes up so much bandwidth. It's just
Speaker 2: so many games. Dewan Harris has scored more than eighteen
Speaker 2: points once in his career and it was yes, the
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty three points per game game. Again at
Speaker 2: the twenty three points in the Kentucky game land then
Speaker 2: yep once and you know how many times he scored
Speaker 2: more than you know how many times Dewan Harris has
Speaker 2: scored more than fifteen points.
Speaker 3: This year, assuming zero, I think it's zero.
Speaker 2: He got seventeen against you and C. Wilmington and that's it. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 2: here's some more stats on these guys, just to put
Speaker 2: everybody in the pile and we can figure out what
Speaker 2: we want to do with them. Zeke Mayo led Kansas
Speaker 2: and scoring with fifteen points. He was four of nine
Speaker 2: from the floor. He made two threes, added six three
Speaker 2: bounds and three assists. He was more or less fine.
Speaker 2: The defense isn't great, but yeah, sure, go ahead, go
Speaker 2: ahead criticize Zeke Mayo on a roster with this many problems.
Speaker 2: He's not the issue. Ryland Griffin does suck. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: not a very good defender, and and you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to matter the quality of the opponent that
Speaker 2: he plays either, because Utah is not exactly oozing with
Speaker 2: NBA guards that are difficult to defend, and he struggled.
Speaker 2: There also is really freaking turnover prone sometimes, especially on
Speaker 2: the road. Ryland Griffin got the start. He did make
Speaker 2: two of his four threes, finishing with six points and
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, but a combination of four fouls in those
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes and being Bill Selft caused him to play
Speaker 2: very little down the stretch, which is totally okay because
Speaker 2: the Dewan Harris, kJ Adams, Hunter Dickinson show was absolutely
Speaker 2: scorching the nets where they did not need I had.
Speaker 2: I had somebody reply on Twitter whenever I said, man,
Speaker 2: it's amazing I watched Alabama and Auburn. I'll play the
Speaker 2: same sport. And somebody replied and said, hey, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: You just can't expect that because Kansas, Uh, we don't
Speaker 2: have the shooters that those schools have. What do you
Speaker 2: mean they literally have Alabama's best shooter from one year ago,
Speaker 2: he's on the roster. What did you do to him?
Speaker 2: How did you coach this guy in the offseason where
Speaker 2: he went from the best shooter in a Natos offense
Speaker 2: to looking freaking terrified to fire the rock because he's
Speaker 2: gonna get binged.
Speaker 1: Bupa pop up up up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can do when you base your
Speaker 3: entire offense with three guy, well, two guys don't scored,
Speaker 3: and then one seventy foot two guy that's kind of slow,
Speaker 3: surrounded by guys they clogged the paint, and then you
Speaker 3: discourage them from shooting outside. That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Here's what I don't get and hindsight's twenty twenty. But
Speaker 2: it seems like the plan in this offseason, after watching
Speaker 2: what we watched last year, was obvious. Hunter Dickinson was
Speaker 2: an All American last year. He says he wants to
Speaker 2: come back. That is the most important decision of anybody
Speaker 2: in your program. You get your All American center back.
Speaker 2: He's a staple there. And why in the world the
Speaker 2: instant you know Hunter Dickinson's back, isn't the coaching staff
Speaker 2: hammering the table saying we got to find the best
Speaker 2: four guys to fit around Hunter. One through four is
Speaker 2: so much less important than five. In this case, we
Speaker 2: got the All American center. Let's figure out what four
Speaker 2: guys best maximize his skill set.
Speaker 1: Because Ryan, the reasoning was not let's find the four
Speaker 1: best guys to fit around Hunter, it's let's find two
Speaker 1: guys that can play around Hunter to one and kJ.
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, And why did they think Why did they
Speaker 2: think that was the right call based on anything we
Speaker 2: saw yes last year? Why did they think Auto Locke
Speaker 2: thirty minutes a game with a throwaway a padlock shut
Speaker 2: three guys that can't shoot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why I'm saying, why is that where you start
Speaker 3: just just thinking about it, Like, it's actually insane to
Speaker 3: have three players in twenty twenty five that cannot shoot
Speaker 3: in the lineup. It makes zero sense And it's not
Speaker 3: an all issue.
Speaker 2: What happens if they have the the white kid from
Speaker 2: k State that shoots really well and last year's Ryland Griffin?
Speaker 2: What if those guys are playing the two in the three?
Speaker 2: So you got two great three point shooters on your roster.
Speaker 2: Is this team really that much better? I still think
Speaker 2: the fact that sixty percent of the guys on the
Speaker 2: floor can't shoot is gonna hold you back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, Yeah, So the two in the still the hole.
Speaker 2: So Bill self went out and got Griffin, who was
Speaker 2: the top shooter in the portal. He got Quite who
Speaker 2: was a twenty points a game guy last year. Man,
Speaker 2: he got Shaq Moore who and yeah, Zeke Mayo and
Speaker 2: Shaq Moore who were both who have both been very
Speaker 2: good this year. And he got aj Storre, who was
Speaker 2: considered to be arguably the top small forward in the portal.
Speaker 2: He did max out options at the two and the three,
Speaker 2: but because the one and the four and the five
Speaker 2: gel so poorly together. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who you put. It doesn't matter if you put Grady
Speaker 2: Dick as your three and Sophie m kay look as
Speaker 2: your two if the one, four, and five don't work
Speaker 2: this well.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, that is accurate, And there was never a
Speaker 1: consideration that that wasn't going to be the case. I
Speaker 1: talked about this at the end of last season. You
Speaker 1: were all over this Ryan that kJ Adams could not start,
Speaker 1: and Nick and I at the time, we're both like, well,
Speaker 1: get ready because he's going to and that's where we are.
Speaker 1: There was never consideration that those three players weren't going
Speaker 1: to play. But is it those three players together are
Speaker 1: why you lost to Utah on the road.
Speaker 2: Is it because Bill self believes that is the best
Speaker 2: way to build an amazing basketball team? Or is loyalty
Speaker 2: and Bill self just really likes kJ in to one?
Speaker 2: Is that playing a factor here?
Speaker 3: That was one hundred percent both. He thinks that those
Speaker 3: guys are way better than what they are. He probably
Speaker 3: looks at it and goes, well, I won a national
Speaker 3: title with kJ Andwan on the roster, so why can't
Speaker 3: I do it again, and then he doesn't fill the
Speaker 3: spots with guys that would compliment them, and when he does,
Speaker 3: he doesn't play them in the right rotations. And it's
Speaker 3: just it's insane. It's it's so painfully obvious to every
Speaker 3: single person that watches this except for maybe two.
Speaker 2: And I think you could make an argument that just
Speaker 2: about every one of their losses that it was kind
Speaker 2: of a good time to buy low on them. They
Speaker 2: should have beat Houston, they should have beat Baylor. You
Speaker 2: take those two once in one hundred sort of collapses away,
Speaker 2: and okay that going into this game. Then you have
Speaker 2: five losses, right, you have two in early December against
Speaker 2: teams that are both ranked right now in crighton Missouri
Speaker 2: on the road. Okay, we take those away, West Virginia.
Speaker 2: You drop a stinker. It happens. Case State's been playing better.
Speaker 2: Like you can make an Iowa State really good team.
Speaker 2: You could make like okay, like it's seven losses isn't great,
Speaker 2: but like Aero could still point up right here, Utah
Speaker 2: is the one that just for me, lets all the
Speaker 2: air right out of the sales. This is a knockout
Speaker 2: punch for this team. And and then you gotta go
Speaker 2: on the road and play BYU who's better than Utah
Speaker 2: and they're very good at home. That's not an easy draw.
Speaker 2: Then you'll win your next two games. Could you get
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State in Colorado? But then you I good lord.
Speaker 3: If they don't, then then, honestly, hot take, I don't
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind just seeing this team free fall just
Speaker 3: to prove people wrong that want to think that everything's fine.
Speaker 2: It's kind of one of those things where if you
Speaker 2: do believe that this team cannot win a title, and
Speaker 2: you believe that this team is not going to make
Speaker 2: a second weekend, It's kind of like in the NFL
Speaker 2: whenever a team is like seven and eight going into
Speaker 2: the last game of the year and they have like
Speaker 2: a ten percent chance to make the playoffs, but you know,
Speaker 2: if they make the playoffs, they're just gonna get blasted
Speaker 2: by whoever they play in the first And it's like,
Speaker 2: I'd rather just maximize the draft pick and miss the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So the coaching staff knows we've got to make a change,
Speaker 2: then fall backwards into a playoff spot or a Sweet
Speaker 2: sixteen appearance, and they think, oh, we're on the right track.
Speaker 2: Let's keep it up.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I feel.
Speaker 2: Correct the rest of the players here, Flory, but dounga
Speaker 2: eight and four and twenty minutes, So glad he's playing
Speaker 2: less than kJ despite posting better stats in half the minutes.
Speaker 2: AJ Storr made an early three and Bill said, okay,
Speaker 2: that's enough, you're not playing in the second half. He
Speaker 2: finished with three points in twelve minutes. He's very quick
Speaker 2: to try aj Store and then very hesitant to play
Speaker 2: in the last like thirty minutes. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: David coy had three points. Oh yeah, more important than
Speaker 2: just well, he trust the one in kJ. He trusts
Speaker 2: kj's four and three with a foulout. But to be there,
Speaker 2: Bill self, trusting his players is yielding excellent results. Yep.
Speaker 2: David coit and made a three and twelve minutes, otherwise
Speaker 2: missed several shots. Shack Moore made two free throws in
Speaker 2: fourteen minutes, which is one third of what Dwan Harris played.
Speaker 2: Rakeys Passmore played a few seconds and Bill was like, Nope,
Speaker 2: don't like the way that his shoes look today. So
Speaker 2: back on the bench you go. You know. Then the
Speaker 2: thing about Ricky's passmore getting benched for sneezing. You know
Speaker 2: two people groups of people that love coaches who do
Speaker 2: that portal gets and recruits. They love it. They love
Speaker 2: watching freshmen go out there for five seconds and get pulled.
Speaker 2: They say, I can't wait to play for that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, It'll be sick when this is happening to
Speaker 1: Darren Peterson next year.
Speaker 2: If Darren Peterson decommits for any reason, which there's no
Speaker 2: indication that he is going to, but if he backs
Speaker 2: out of this, I think we have to burn down
Speaker 2: allen Field House.
Speaker 1: People extreme, I'll start to go fundme for buy bills, buyout.
Speaker 2: Hey, if we burned down Allen Fieldhouse, Travis Goff will
Speaker 2: find a sponsored to stamp on it. Today, I did
Speaker 2: not find out that Kansas was ranked number twenty three.
Speaker 2: They are ranked number twenty three in the AP poll
Speaker 2: brought to you by Delta Dental of Kansas. You go,
Speaker 2: Travis Goff, You're hitting all the points that we love.
Speaker 2: Take more seats at Allen Field House. Why don't you
Speaker 2: stay up a few more logos on the court while
Speaker 2: you're sucky hearted? Coach just John Caliperi two point zero
Speaker 2: less miles is himself out there and we play all
Speaker 2: these these these freaking non shooters on their way to
Speaker 2: another NCAA Tournament second round loss. We're nice and rational
Speaker 2: in this show.
Speaker 1: Might be a first round loss if they draw a
Speaker 1: ten seed.
Speaker 3: Though, like it could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing. They're gonna be a very popular upset pick
Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament. And I don't know how you
Speaker 2: can blame rightfully. So yep, forty percent from the floor
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent from three to twenty four threes as
Speaker 2: opposed to forty one two is winning basketball. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, they're the Jayhawks, uh seventy percent of the line.
Speaker 2: They lost on the glass by ten, which just sucks.
Speaker 2: They turned it over twelve times against the team that
Speaker 2: doesn't force turnovers. They got only seven turnovers themselves from
Speaker 2: a team that really usually struggles to turn it over.
Speaker 2: Just awesome, all things considered, awesome for Kansas. They are
Speaker 2: eight and six and the Big Twelve, well on their
Speaker 2: way to their worst amount of their highest amount of
Speaker 2: losses and conference play under Bill self. And they gonna
Speaker 2: play a bunch of white guys this week. It's gonna
Speaker 2: get worse.
Speaker 3: Neat ass.
Speaker 2: Big Big Twelve games. A whole lot of uninteresting stuff
Speaker 2: happened this week in the Big Twelve, aside from the
Speaker 2: preseason number one team losing to the team that everybody
Speaker 2: picked the finish last that took the cake. Well, and
Speaker 2: then there's this Cam. You were right, they were due
Speaker 2: Colorado seventy six. Look at us reading their name first
Speaker 2: for the first time this year UCF sixty three. The
Speaker 2: Buffaloes got a dub bop the champagne Cam. Go for it,
Speaker 2: You've earned you You're due to read a Colorado win? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is this me?
Speaker 3: Okay? I wasn't sure if i'd Heck, yeah, I do
Speaker 3: well in the game that nobody cared about, not even
Speaker 3: the player's mother's. Colorado notched their first league win. They were,
Speaker 3: in fact due led by I'm going to butcher this name,
Speaker 3: Andre Jackimoffski. It sounds like Jack mo Off, but he
Speaker 3: did fifteen points. Julian Hammond had eleven points. Colorado got
Speaker 3: his first Big Twelve conference play wins is March tenth,
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, when they beat Kansas State in the NCAA
Speaker 3: Tournament or the Big Wow. Excuse me, you.
Speaker 2: Really look at Cam's stat research on that one. You
Speaker 2: really went five dug into your bag right after saying
Speaker 2: that a player was named Jack them off. That's pretty good,
Speaker 2: that's his name. That that would have been the most
Speaker 2: interesting thing that's happened to Colorado all year. I guess
Speaker 2: number six, sixty two, number thirteen, Arizona, fifty eight Landon.
Speaker 2: I think that Houston is they identify as twenty ten's Kansas.
Speaker 2: They are the new cool kids on the block and
Speaker 2: we all have to live.
Speaker 1: With it, which means I'm really sorry about this, Houston.
Speaker 1: You are due for early to eight loss this year.
Speaker 1: An offensive rock fight that would leave Bill self in
Speaker 1: a state of sexual stupor. He shows again why it's
Speaker 1: the best of the Big twelve. Caleb Love finished seventeen
Speaker 1: points on five of nine shooting from the floor is
Speaker 1: wet five of nineteen, five of nineteen.
Speaker 3: That does.
Speaker 1: That makes a lot more sense. For a second, I
Speaker 1: was like good Caleb Love, and still lost not so much.
Speaker 2: See, we let Cam write the notes today, so you
Speaker 2: never know what to get here. There's a reason that
Speaker 2: I was very, very willing to let you guys read
Speaker 2: all these because I don't want to accidentally say a
Speaker 2: very inappropriate thing and then have to go censor myself
Speaker 2: It's much more fun to not censor you guys.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Bill self was so bad in this game, because,
Speaker 1: much like Jackimovski, he was he was in a not
Speaker 1: fully coherent state after the Houston Arizona game. He was
Speaker 1: still thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Jakimovski. Yeah, we're gonna talk about Kansas State next. But
Speaker 2: did you guys happen to just see the basket that
Speaker 2: Brendan Housen made? Made From my goodness, whenever I said
Speaker 2: I'd love to have that guy on this Jayhawks team,
Speaker 2: he made a shot from the U in Utah. As
Speaker 2: Kansas State is playing Utah in a very entertaining game,
Speaker 2: but earlier this week they lost to a team from Utah.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm watching it too. BYU eighty
Speaker 2: Kansas State sixty five. First time we've talked about the
Speaker 2: Wildcats taking an l for a WHILECAM, but it happened
Speaker 2: in the same state, the same beehive state that Kansas
Speaker 2: took one in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did I rest in peace to k State's hot
Speaker 3: streak that was twenty twenty five to twenty twenty five? Ema, bitch, Yes,
Speaker 3: I have nothing to add here other than I can't
Speaker 3: imagine Kansas student much better there, but that's expected now.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, Also other than Jim Orferdeck, can you guys
Speaker 3: name a BYU athlete.
Speaker 2: TJ. Hawes who is bald Zach Wilson's let me think
Speaker 2: of who else? Didn't they have a guy that that
Speaker 2: cam called Mia Khalifa that was not.
Speaker 3: The gutter man?
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, maybe that was Ryan. It was like, uh,
Speaker 2: that's a very tall building, sir, building, that's so.
Speaker 3: I was lined any that one. That's just pathetic. I'm
Speaker 3: really that dumb.
Speaker 2: It was Ali Khalifi and he was an Egyptian. He
Speaker 2: was an Egyptian dude that Hunter Dickinson bumped and he said, gush,
Speaker 2: darn it, Hunter, get out of my huddle. And then
Speaker 2: b Yu went on a roll and h and beat
Speaker 2: Kansas at Allen Fieldhouse. And they're probably gonna beat him
Speaker 2: in probo number ten Iowa State eighty one, Cincinnati seventy.
Speaker 2: Uh back in the wind call and go to Cyclones.
Speaker 2: They are pulling away from the Jayhawks, as are many teams.
Speaker 1: Kurs Jones led the way here with twenty two points.
Speaker 1: Twelve of twelve from the free throw line, would wh
Speaker 1: might be two for two because Kansas, Cam is inconsistent
Speaker 1: with his placement of ones that beats most Kansas teams
Speaker 1: in entire games twelve or twelve from the free throw line.
Speaker 1: Though Jones was very good. Yes, Cam, I did see
Speaker 1: that word that you'd put in me, and you did
Speaker 1: not have to emphasize it very much for me.
Speaker 2: I that was me. I made it bigger.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Well, either way, Cam has put that gigil.
Speaker 1: James ejaculated twenty five points for Cincinnati. Cincinnati continues to suck. Yes,
Speaker 1: for anyone that's wondering, I do know what that word means,
Speaker 1: and I read it anyway.
Speaker 2: Only the best quality here on itp quality and comedy.
Speaker 2: Baylor seventy four, West Virginia seventy one in overtime. This
Speaker 2: is a bad loss for West Virginia's at large hopes
Speaker 2: and a good one for a good win for Baylor's.
Speaker 3: Yeah. In true West Virginia fashion, their athletics website is
Speaker 3: reporting that overtime was a free throw exhibition in which
Speaker 3: Baylor participated in West Virginia did not to participate. In
Speaker 3: other news, West Virginia continues to be one of the
Speaker 3: least educated states in the United states.
Speaker 2: It does, yes, and they're very educated when it comes
Speaker 2: to learning how to beat Bill Sealth because Kansas hasn't
Speaker 2: beaten West Virginia in a basketball game since win. It
Speaker 2: was when Grady Dick was here, and they almost lost
Speaker 2: that one, if I remember correctly, they needed a late
Speaker 2: They wore those god awful white and black jerseys and
Speaker 2: they almost blew that at Allen field House and Bob
Speaker 2: Huggins finale. I think you guys remember that game.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, that's right, I do.
Speaker 1: We should have we should have the GPA Tournament between
Speaker 1: like Mississippi schools, Alabama schools, West Virginia schools and the
Speaker 1: winner wins their school like funding, which isn't ever gonna
Speaker 1: happen in modern America. So that's a really first one.
Speaker 1: Winter moves on reason and no other reason.
Speaker 2: Winner moves on to play one seed Doug McDaniel in
Speaker 2: the finals.
Speaker 3: Yeah. First one to hooked on phonics at a second
Speaker 3: grade level wins.
Speaker 2: TCU seventy four, Arizona State seventy Landon. We said TCU
Speaker 2: was due to get to five hundred, as Jamie Dixon does,
Speaker 2: and they did.
Speaker 1: They did. It happened to be in the mount rushmore
Speaker 1: of ass games, but he did Outskunk Daniel and continues
Speaker 1: to be in search for his father's approval while losing
Speaker 1: conference games. But he's only slightly worse than his brother
Speaker 1: this year at this point.
Speaker 2: So Kna's notes are just so good.
Speaker 1: Bashir Jihad had eleven points in this camp his two
Speaker 1: day put up Wilt Chamberlain numbers with three points in
Speaker 1: sixteen minutes. Yet somehow fans still want him over Hunter.
Speaker 1: Make it make sense?
Speaker 2: Well, you see, the reason is because if he had
Speaker 2: stayed at Kansas, he would have turned into Wilt Chamberlain,
Speaker 2: says all the fans, who are also very critical of
Speaker 2: Bill SEL's development abilities. Uh so, yeah, even that's the.
Speaker 1: One thing he's typically good at.
Speaker 2: The one you want is zu Viega four not earn
Speaker 2: a two day Zubie's playing like a like an All
Speaker 2: Big East player, and then wrapping it up here Number twelve,
Speaker 2: Texas Tech ninety three, Oklahoma State fifty five. I'll finish
Speaker 2: this one because it's fast. Thirty two more points for j. T. Toppin,
Speaker 2: who I believe only scored seventy two points in two
Speaker 2: games this week. Nothing add nothing to add besides Oklahoma
Speaker 2: State lost by thirty eight in a game Land and
Speaker 2: predicted them to win. Cam wants to know. Will Kansas
Speaker 2: lose at home to Texas Tech. No, they won't, but
Speaker 2: then they'll lose the next game.
Speaker 1: They might lose a Tech at home. Text about a
Speaker 1: team like I said.
Speaker 2: Not at Allen Field House. That doesn't happen this year, right, Sure,
Speaker 2: It's happened a lot of times. Big twelve standings pretty
Speaker 2: much getting close to putting a bow on their second
Speaker 2: straight title and as many years in the conference is
Speaker 2: Houston thirteen and one, Arizona and Texas Tech now and
Speaker 2: I tie at eleven and three for second. Iowa State
Speaker 2: is ten and four, and then then you have a
Speaker 2: real steep drop off here. Kansas, Baylor, and BYU they're
Speaker 2: all eight and six.
Speaker 1: K State TCU they're tied for eight. They're seven and
Speaker 1: seven in tenth, West Virginia and Utah six and eight,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati five and nine in.
Speaker 3: Twelve, thirteenth, UCF, Oklahoma State at four and ten, number fifteen,
Speaker 3: Airs of State three and eleven, Colorado one in thirteen
Speaker 3: and they yes, to answer your question, they are still due.
Speaker 2: Hey guess who they do? Whatever you do don't ask
Speaker 2: your Alexa or your Siri who their next home game
Speaker 2: is against, because oh no, surely they can't do that, right,
Speaker 2: I hope I kind of attend that it's a ten
Speaker 2: o'clock tip off. Sir, you thought Utah was bad, that
Speaker 2: one will be ours step for that one. The matchup
Speaker 2: of the year, Oh sorry, other games. The matchup of
Speaker 2: the year was in Tuscaloosa, but it was a nonumber
Speaker 2: one Auburn That state did'sclaim as college basketball's undisputed top team,
Speaker 2: winning at number two Alabama ninety four to eighty five.
Speaker 2: Same sport that Kansas played, and a game they never
Speaker 2: trailed in. Jeni Broome had nineteen points, fourteen rebounds, and
Speaker 2: six assists. See he's an energy guy that brings the
Speaker 2: intensity and also makes shots and rebounds that you can
Speaker 2: do both believe it or not. He was in and
Speaker 2: out of the game with a hurt foot all day,
Speaker 2: still was a stud down the stretch. The teams combined
Speaker 2: to shoot fifty six threes and only committed eleven total turnovers.
Speaker 2: It is hard to believe that this, indeed is the
Speaker 2: same sport that the Jayhawks also attempt to play.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was texting my mother back. Plenty of other
Speaker 1: noteworthy results happened in the SEC. Number three Florida dropped
Speaker 1: South Carolina to oh to twelve, otherwise known as the
Speaker 1: Colorado of the South. Number eight Texas A and m
Speaker 1: essentially distinguished Arkansas's tournament hopes. Nineteen Ole Miss was upset
Speaker 1: by number twenty Twossissippi State, which means Missippi State it's
Speaker 1: going to get more public funding for their schools. Tough
Speaker 1: break for all miss uh Number twenty one Ole Miss
Speaker 1: rolled Georgia in a road win, and Rodney Terry got
Speaker 1: his signature win by rallying past Umber fifteen Kentucky in Austin.
Speaker 3: Number five Tennessee almost lost a home to Vanderbilt by
Speaker 3: the rallyed late to win by five. Speaking of Vanderbilt,
Speaker 3: on the women's side, Mickaleb Blake's broke her own Division
Speaker 3: one freshman scoring record by scoring fifty five points on
Speaker 3: twenty eight shots for the Commodoores in an overtime win
Speaker 3: in Auburn. And other women's basketball news page backers. According
Speaker 3: to Ryan, I have a girlfriend is still hot and
Speaker 3: the Yukon of women, and a four year home winning
Speaker 3: streak for South Carolina by depantsing the game Cocks on
Speaker 3: the road, and according to Ryan again once again, I
Speaker 3: have a girlfriend. I wish Pagebackers would get pantsed.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Also has a wife.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Yeah, yeah, my wife would be cool
Speaker 2: with it. Wait a minute, Atlanta, did you say that's crazy?
Speaker 2: What kind of nick take are you riding here? No?
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying that's a crazy thing to say. Page
Speaker 1: is extremely cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I get the keyboard, I just feel like
Speaker 2: typing all these things.
Speaker 3: Page Beckers could drive one of those Kentucky Fried Chicken
Speaker 3: sports through my left nipple and I'd still make her practice.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is this could literally happen in
Speaker 2: your living room right here, hold on, and you'd be like,
Speaker 2: waffles are pancakes? Page.
Speaker 3: Yeah. She also could run you over in my car
Speaker 3: and I'd apologize for being in the way, So it's
Speaker 3: all good.
Speaker 2: Speaking of being run over with a car. Porter Moser
Speaker 2: most Deserving and Best summarizes that gruesome analogy. A nine
Speaker 2: point favorite Oklahoma team over an LSU team that entered
Speaker 2: one in ten in conference play, the Colorado of the SEC,
Speaker 2: if you will, lit Land and said South Carolina as
Speaker 2: the Colorado, so they are there. Last year's ucf uh
Speaker 2: one in ten, LSU goes into Oklahoma and they trail
Speaker 2: by five. Oklahoma's got them pinned down like Kim would
Speaker 2: allegedly maybe do with pagebackers five point lead with just
Speaker 2: a couple seconds left, and they then gave up a
Speaker 2: four point play and a three point play in the
Speaker 2: final twenty seconds to the same player and lost at home.
Speaker 2: They made better combination than Porter. And that what I wrote,
Speaker 2: which I will not say on the air, but is
Speaker 2: there one in sports?
Speaker 1: It sounds like Jisel, James.
Speaker 3: Oh Man and sports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's many hundreds, if not thousands, if not tens
Speaker 1: of millions, of better combinations than those two things.
Speaker 2: Porter is a bad coach. And I saw Oklahoma as
Speaker 2: a first four out team on ESPN. And I now
Speaker 2: have to buy a new TV because I threw everything
Speaker 2: in my house through the TV when I saw.
Speaker 3: That, Oh my, it's my turn, I can remember.
Speaker 1: I think it's my turn. Yeah, it is my turn?
Speaker 1: Really like Wild Wild beginning sentence the mission, This is
Speaker 1: what Ryan wrote. The Michigan schools made power claims in
Speaker 1: the Big ten race as number eleven. It's really funny
Speaker 1: to me. Number eleven Michigan State ran away late to
Speaker 1: be Illinois in Champagne to stay in second place. This
Speaker 1: is Game of Thrones, just the big ten and number twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm feeling political this week, sir. Have you seen
Speaker 2: the news?
Speaker 1: I try not to.
Speaker 3: Uh, can we get the twenty sidebar here? Hold on?
Speaker 3: Can we get you to investigate the fraud and the
Speaker 3: spending that's going on with Kansas's nil because these guys saw.
Speaker 2: Elon. Yeah, he did say that there were like one
Speaker 2: hundred million Social Security numbers that had been issued to
Speaker 2: dead people. That is now the second biggest fraud in
Speaker 2: the history of economics. Shortly after a j score getting
Speaker 2: a million dollars from the Kansas Athletic Department. Oh.
Speaker 1: Also, they were gonna like declassify the files on like
Speaker 1: who killed MLK and JFK. They needed to classify the
Speaker 1: files on who killed Kansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it turns out the guy that killed was actually
Speaker 3: Bill self.
Speaker 2: It was Eric Musselman. Whenever we really look back on it,
Speaker 2: or whoever made Bill selves, whoever made Bill selves? Last
Speaker 2: heart ventricle spas.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced there was a second shooter. Where were we?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, power claims. Number twenty Michigan got a road way
Speaker 1: in at Ohio State to remain an outright first. Also
Speaker 1: number sixteen, Wisconsin hung ninety four on number seven Perdue
Speaker 1: on the road, winning by ten to enter the league
Speaker 1: race themselves.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin hanging ninety four on you is the equivalent of
Speaker 2: any other basketball team not named Kansas scoring one hundred
Speaker 2: ninety four on you by the day. That's hard to allow.
Speaker 1: It's like that one to seventy six one seventy two
Speaker 1: NBA game from a year or so ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, folks, it is a two horse race in
Speaker 3: the ACC and one of them is a stallion. The
Speaker 3: other is slightly developmentally challenged. As number three, Duke continues
Speaker 3: to dust off lackluster competition by blowing out Stanford. Number
Speaker 3: twenty three Clempson destroyed Florida State on the road. These
Speaker 3: two teams are combined twenty seven and three in league played.
Speaker 2: Nobody else matters, correct, Nobody else matters, and Duke really
Speaker 2: doesn't matter either. But you know, Cooper Flag's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Big East Number nine Saint John's right of the ship
Speaker 2: by holding off number twenty four Creton at home on Sunday.
Speaker 2: They won by thirteen. They're thirteen and two in a
Speaker 2: league that they are well positioned to win. The most
Speaker 2: shocking upset of the weekend came at the expense of Yukon.
Speaker 2: Did you guys see how Yukon lost this weekend?
Speaker 1: I saw that they did lose.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was something. They led a ghastly six and
Speaker 2: eighteen Seaton Hall team by seven points with forty five
Speaker 2: seconds left, just to blow it and go to overtime.
Speaker 2: Then they fouled up three in overtime, which you should do.
Speaker 2: Guy makes the first free throw, they execute the miss
Speaker 2: the second one on purpose, and get a buzzer beater
Speaker 2: to win by one. Play just a wild sequence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley did not announce how many rings he had
Speaker 2: to the visiting crowd this time as he walked up
Speaker 2: the court.
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best coach in the sport.
Speaker 2: Well, he thinks he is, but the rest don't give
Speaker 2: him the call. So is he really? Seaton Hall is
Speaker 2: outside the top two hundred on Ken Palm they entered. Yeah,
Speaker 2: six and eighteen. They won the game sixty nine to
Speaker 2: sixty eight.
Speaker 1: That is nothing screams college basketball like an overtime game
Speaker 1: that didn't hit seventy.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. Sure does they have a lot of
Speaker 2: k oh my goodness, Caleb Love, just boy, if you
Speaker 2: guys don't have the Arizona Baylor game on, you should
Speaker 2: see what kayleb Love just did in Waco. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's legal considering how religious the school is, and
Speaker 2: Arizona has a double digit lead at Baylor, where from
Speaker 2: my personal notes, everybody who has a double digit second
Speaker 2: half lead down there usually holds on and wins. With
Speaker 2: the aspects of.
Speaker 1: You can't give up sixty points in the half. Just
Speaker 1: for the record, does say.
Speaker 2: That Arizona's in danger of that because they don't have
Speaker 2: kJ Adams on their team, so their defense is a
Speaker 2: threat to give up a lot of points in a half.
Speaker 1: Did De Paul win? No, they lost to Xavier by seventeen.
Speaker 2: Xavier's really good. I'm kidding, They're very much so not good.
Speaker 2: That's a bad loss, but De Paul's used to it
Speaker 2: by now. Cam. I think that you may not have
Speaker 2: a ton of time in Chicago left, but have you
Speaker 2: considered suiting up for De Paul just one time before
Speaker 2: you head out?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd do it.
Speaker 3: I'll stand in the corner, and we.
Speaker 2: Are, of course referencing the limited amount of time you
Speaker 2: have left in Chicago because you live close enough to
Speaker 2: a dairy queen where if you keep your windows rolled,
Speaker 2: if your windows are up in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night anymore times? Oh dude, right, Yeah, that it was
Speaker 2: a very impressive dunk by Caleb Love. Didn't know he
Speaker 2: could do that. There we as proof whenever people say
Speaker 2: how many points would the five of us score against
Speaker 2: the college back nuns, we would get that a lot
Speaker 2: many times. Ray seems to lose into the last podcast.
Speaker 2: Alabama they are number two, or they were number two.
Speaker 2: They lost to Auburn at home.
Speaker 1: On number seven Perdue they lost to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Number thirteen years ow I lost to Houston.
Speaker 2: Number fourteen, Memphis lost a stunner to Wichita State. What
Speaker 2: Penny Hardaway got upset?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Number fifteen Kentucky they lost to Texas somehow.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read what it says here. Number seventeen,
Speaker 3: shitty hearted Tomato, red washed bastard lost to Utah.
Speaker 2: What's the most what's the most true part of that?
Speaker 2: That six word claim, the poor horrible part?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like how there are six words in there and
Speaker 2: four were very mean things though, and you'll both thought, utah,
Speaker 2: oh that is true.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: Yes, Number nineteen old miss got punched in the face
Speaker 2: by Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: And number twenty four Creighton lost to Saint.
Speaker 2: John's and Landon had a losing record in Pick him.
Speaker 2: Last week. While we're on the topic of Chicago and Echine, closer,
Speaker 2: Buddy walk in the plank, another foot out onto the ledge.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really funny when this is my last
Speaker 1: season on the show and then I am show canonically
Speaker 1: dead in Chicago.
Speaker 2: No, God, that can't happen. Don't you have to come
Speaker 2: back and watch Bill's self take Darren Peterson and lose
Speaker 2: thirteen times somehow.
Speaker 3: I I.
Speaker 1: I will not pull a Nick and disappear under the ether.
Speaker 1: I will return occasionally if I do leave.
Speaker 2: Yes, we need that when they when they lose to
Speaker 2: to Freakin Memphis in the second round of next year's
Speaker 2: Maui Tournament, you'll come back and talk about number four.
Speaker 3: Twelve, number Memphis sixty four. Guys, I really appear this points.
Speaker 1: No one else scored.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill Soff is now on a on the sidelines.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've had a lot of ask rcbs in
Speaker 2: the past, and there are thirty of these. We may,
Speaker 2: we may, And I intentionally waited until much later in
Speaker 2: the day to post this because I thought this would happen.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna go ahead and let's let's boy,
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start with this. We're
Speaker 2: gonna start with Hunter Dickenson questions. We're gonna start with
Speaker 2: kJ Adams questions. We're gonna start with lineup questions. Here
Speaker 2: we go, just a whole whole whole bunch of them
Speaker 2: that everybody wants to talk about. Let's see here at
Speaker 2: I don't even know where I want to start here.
Speaker 2: There's okay, look, there's a few, there's there's there's a
Speaker 2: few questions, a lot of questions about Hunter kJ, the
Speaker 2: Wan Flory lineups. We all. I think that I'll probably
Speaker 2: bypass a lot of reading them individually, because I think
Speaker 2: our our stance on the matter has already been made
Speaker 2: pretty clear, and we also know not a fricking thing's
Speaker 2: gonna change. We can answer questions like we could answer
Speaker 2: questions like would you like to see Hunter kJ and
Speaker 2: Floory set more screens? The free up the guards in
Speaker 2: motion yes, we would, but is that actually going to happen. No,
Speaker 2: they're not going to ever do that exactly. Now, let's
Speaker 2: answer questions about Bill's self. We have self has always
Speaker 2: modeled his teams to take on the personality of himself.
Speaker 2: So the question is has self just become soft since
Speaker 2: the heart thing? Because since then we've been soft bitches.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, sure, I still don't like that the
Speaker 2: angle of it's a heart issue. I don't watch these
Speaker 2: guys and think they don't care. I people are like
Speaker 2: Dickinson and Mao, and yeah, I think that they care
Speaker 2: just fine. I don't think the fact that they're getting
Speaker 2: a check means that they care less year and want
Speaker 2: to win less. No.
Speaker 3: I think they've also read slash heard that maybe they
Speaker 3: don't enjoy playing with each other that much, at least
Speaker 3: some of the guys, So there could be some of that,
Speaker 3: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, you had Zeke Mayo like in a
Speaker 2: post that said, we need to play, uh, we need
Speaker 2: to play Flory Moore and the coach obviously has favorites.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what Rikeys Passmore thinks whenever kJ
Speaker 2: bricks shot after shot and kJ gets sixty hung on
Speaker 2: him as he stays out there, and rikeys passmore can't
Speaker 2: take a semi open three without getting benched. Can't imagine
Speaker 2: that's great? Just like that segment at k tweets and News.
Speaker 2: Name a few more productive things you could have been
Speaker 2: doing instead of watching that game on Saturday. Well, both
Speaker 2: of you guys were either sleeping or yeah.
Speaker 3: Go for it, underwater basket weaving, driving in traffic while
Speaker 3: eating a cheeseburger, reading a book while driving a semi
Speaker 3: truck trailer, driving to John Dear traff on the wrong
Speaker 3: side of the road into the coming traffic, and then
Speaker 3: also flipping a pancake while trying to run across the
Speaker 3: street naked holding a kitchen knife.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was that was so off the dome cam.
Speaker 2: Is that like your your your weekend to do list
Speaker 2: or something? How was that? So?
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's just how I want to go out.
Speaker 2: Which of those five things would be your first choice?
Speaker 3: Flipping a pancake while holding the kitchen knife running into
Speaker 3: traffic would probably be the best way to go because
Speaker 3: at least I'd be remembered for something like they'd be
Speaker 3: like that guy really tried.
Speaker 2: You all, remember you for your I'll remember you for
Speaker 2: your Big twelve recaps. Cam, don't you worry at whole?
Speaker 2: Underscore Ryan with a question that I'm curious what you
Speaker 2: guys actually answer with, no, are we watching the end
Speaker 2: of the Bill self era?
Speaker 1: I genuinely think there is a like better chance than
Speaker 1: I ever thought that this year is nearer the end
Speaker 1: of the Bill self era.
Speaker 3: I don't want to admit that, but I feel like
Speaker 3: Landon might be right. I want, here's what I'll say
Speaker 3: if next year doesn't become much.
Speaker 2: Better than Yes, Yeah, I think that's the answer. I
Speaker 2: think you're getting another year, and I think Bill wants
Speaker 2: to go for a while. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: he's always been transparent, and it said, I don't want
Speaker 2: to coach until i'm Roy Williams age, I don't want
Speaker 2: to coach until I'm Mike Krzyzewski's age. How old was
Speaker 2: Roy when he retired? Roy Williams is seventy four now,
Speaker 2: so that would have made him seventy one whenever he
Speaker 2: hung it up. And Bill self's only sixty two, so
Speaker 2: I guess he could go. He could go quite a ways,
Speaker 2: I guess. I think I think you're down to three
Speaker 2: more years at most of Bill self. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that's necessarily because I don't think that's because he's
Speaker 2: going to flimb out and be John CALIPERI. I just
Speaker 2: think regardless of results, I don't think the results are
Speaker 2: going to have much impact for when Bill self retires.
Speaker 1: That is true, though I also genuinely kind of wonder
Speaker 1: if he's become cal Perry already.
Speaker 2: Which is really sad, and that's not something at all
Speaker 2: that I want. And also from at K tweets and news,
Speaker 2: Let's say hypothetically you were not an expert in that case,
Speaker 2: would you rather have kJ Adams and Dwan Harris or
Speaker 2: Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Which one contributes to the energy chart?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say mj didn't always dive on
Speaker 2: the floor after.
Speaker 1: The Michael notorious ballhog shooter type.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, he scored a lot.
Speaker 2: Somebody on somebody said that if somebody said that if
Speaker 2: Billy had recruited Cooper Flag, he would have had to
Speaker 2: play the backup at the four, I.
Speaker 3: Mean you might be real. Yeah, I actually, Leandon, I
Speaker 3: don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 2: Self would have been like kill we play kJ had
Speaker 2: a three will that work? And all his assistant coaches
Speaker 2: are like putting him in a borderline straight jacket.
Speaker 3: At that point, he would have done it.
Speaker 2: Also, the assistant coaches are old by the way. I've
Speaker 2: seen people talk about how they need to get some
Speaker 2: fresh blood. Was it who who was the the football
Speaker 2: program that hired an athletic director?
Speaker 3: Essentially, are you talking about UNC basketball they were talking about?
Speaker 2: Was it USC basketball? That? Oh? G GM? Thank you
Speaker 2: at GM? Yeah, sorry, at GM.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually pretty common.
Speaker 2: Is un C thank you? Yes, Yes, that's exactly who
Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, they hired like a GM of basketball operation.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting to get an outsider's perspective who doesn't
Speaker 2: have that loyalty to the players that they've coached. And
Speaker 2: I also don't think Bill's going for that. I don't
Speaker 2: get the sense that Bill self is a sure someone
Speaker 2: else can come in and tell me who to put
Speaker 2: on my roster sort of.
Speaker 3: Guy Hall of fame, stubborn, arrogant Bill.
Speaker 2: Self at show me Hawk. How would twenty tens Kansas
Speaker 2: do in the current Big twelve of sixteen teams in
Speaker 2: a twenty game schedule?
Speaker 3: Pretty well?
Speaker 1: Well, because they're a good team and the bottom of
Speaker 1: this league sucks.
Speaker 3: They'd be Houston.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Here's the thing that I think
Speaker 2: it's time we have a little conversation about the streak,
Speaker 2: which was a magical run. It will never be done again,
Speaker 2: especially not now considering how huge these conferences are now.
Speaker 2: But I think it's time to admit that the quality
Speaker 2: of the rest of the teams, the unbalanced schedule in
Speaker 2: the first handful of years there where they didn't have
Speaker 2: to play ou in Texas twice and they got to
Speaker 2: beat up on crappy Iowa State, KSE State, Colorado teams
Speaker 2: a bunch of times, but mainly the quality of the
Speaker 2: rest of the league there was for remember how long
Speaker 2: it was before a non Kansas Big twelve team eate
Speaker 2: a Final Four, Like it was like a thirty year
Speaker 2: run where the Big Twelve didn't have a non Kansas
Speaker 2: team make the Final four. That was a factor. And
Speaker 2: ever since you had Texas Tech almost win the title,
Speaker 2: and then Baylor did win the title the next tournament,
Speaker 2: and then you had Houston be the number one, it
Speaker 2: be a higher seed than Kansas last year. Like, it's
Speaker 2: it's time to admit that as good as Kansas was,
Speaker 2: and as good as they would be in this Big twelve,
Speaker 2: they would be in contention to win it. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of that dominance had to do with the
Speaker 2: fact that there wasn't another There's a reason Duke North
Speaker 2: Carolina neither one of them ever won fourteen league titles
Speaker 2: in a row, because they had another powerhouse in the league. Well,
Speaker 2: and they had a balance schedule that helped well in Kansas,
Speaker 2: did I mean all the year of the of the
Speaker 2: however many years that they had the ten get Yeah,
Speaker 2: But like I don't know, I think I think that
Speaker 2: the more I look at the streak, I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: appreciate it less. But I do think Kansas was clearly
Speaker 2: just one step above every other team in the league,
Speaker 2: which is almost exclusively because Kansas was really good, but
Speaker 2: also a little bit Gonzaga like in the sense that
Speaker 2: no one else was year any year out good enough
Speaker 2: to really put.
Speaker 1: That as quite revisionist.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not not anywhere near WCC Calimber, because that's
Speaker 2: Gonzaga and nine non tournament teams. I mean, like, look
Speaker 2: at the years Kansas won the league by a game,
Speaker 2: and yeah, yes they were. And they also had a
Speaker 2: lot more resources, which has been leveled a little bit
Speaker 2: in the last few years.
Speaker 3: It's true all valid.
Speaker 2: Also show me Hawk says, this team is just spiraling
Speaker 2: into the worst version of themselves at the worst possible time,
Speaker 2: really bad around effort the last three games. Maybe the
Speaker 2: magic behind the program was the Trajan uniforms. Not sure
Speaker 2: why we never wear them now. The women's team still does,
Speaker 2: the baseball team still does. I am got Nick and
Speaker 2: Landon hated them, and I love Circus font and I'm
Speaker 2: glad Circus fund is their primary uniform. But the Trajan
Speaker 2: uniforms got way too much hate that, especially those blue uniforms.
Speaker 2: That is classic twenty ten's go on the road and
Speaker 2: take take candy from a baby Kansas.
Speaker 1: I never hated Trajan. I was just pro Circus. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what trade means, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: So it's the fun. It's the fun. It's the fun
Speaker 2: that they had on.
Speaker 3: Their jerseys for just an alternate Trojan.
Speaker 1: Well, not like that, not for Kansas.
Speaker 3: There's no action. I didn't even mean that. Yeah, those
Speaker 3: aren't even a thing in Utah. The lord down there.
Speaker 2: At Elliott recent age a better non basketball question. If
Speaker 2: you had to choose a non Big twelve school to
Speaker 2: be a student at, where would you go? Arizona State?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: Thousand USC is not a Big twelve team.
Speaker 1: I thought I said non Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh oops, she was a non Big twelve school. Yes,
Speaker 2: in that case, USC second choice would be would be
Speaker 2: de Paul.
Speaker 3: If I was a student at Arizona State and I
Speaker 3: was just on campus, it would take me one day
Speaker 3: to crash my car into a light pole because I'd
Speaker 3: be so distracted by the checks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nick was convinced that TCU could stand up. I could
Speaker 2: stand right there with Arizona State in that department. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not not wrong, He's not completely wrong.
Speaker 2: At Jayhawk Junkies, if you could pick one player to
Speaker 2: join this team, would it be Gerald Vic, Brandon Green,
Speaker 2: Josh Selby pre injury, or Isaiah Moss Selby Shelby was
Speaker 2: a really really good player before he broke his foot,
Speaker 2: Brandon Green, Just to just to absolutely yeahsane, chaos catalyst
Speaker 2: like ten times a multiplier to what this squad is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with how dysfunctional this team is, if you add
Speaker 3: Brandon Green to it, it would be one of the
Speaker 3: funniest teams in history.
Speaker 1: I think there would be see I the court between
Speaker 1: the Kansas players.
Speaker 2: See I'm going with the chaos angle with Josh Shelby too,
Speaker 2: because it'd be another talented point guard that Bill self
Speaker 2: would not play.
Speaker 3: Oh true, forgot about that part.
Speaker 2: At AJ Stevens And I've kept my mouth shut about
Speaker 2: this for too long. If Bill can keep running this
Speaker 2: lineup and be unranked, I can share this opinion. I've
Speaker 2: never liked the red and blue color combo. I think
Speaker 2: pretty much every other school has a better combination than Kansas.
Speaker 2: They don't really wear a lot of red. I don't
Speaker 2: think one college team that really has red and blue
Speaker 2: as their primary colors other.
Speaker 3: Than Kansas, University of Detroit, Mercy. There you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not very many of them.
Speaker 1: New Mexico I guess, like not many New Mexico is
Speaker 1: not blue, red and silvery Bellmont.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Are there major teams am I
Speaker 1: who are forgetting Ole Miss?
Speaker 3: Maybe Ole Miss?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Miss is probably the call. Yeah, certainly, no one
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. I was hanging all those Big
Speaker 2: Twelve pennets downstairs or sixteen of them, and I realized
Speaker 2: Kansas is the Arizonue one. There are no other blue
Speaker 2: teams in this conference.
Speaker 1: Arizona's red and blue.
Speaker 2: I think the red and the blue is cool and
Speaker 2: they should lean into the red more than the white.
Speaker 2: Blue and white is Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, but white is also just the
Speaker 1: function of the uniforms. They're primarily a blue team with
Speaker 1: red accents.
Speaker 2: What would blue and black look like? Would that be worse?
Speaker 1: Blue and black's a pretty good combo. I just don't
Speaker 1: think Kansas should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they well, they play like it at DS
Speaker 2: conscious Does anybody watch Zoobie play for Patino and feel
Speaker 2: even worse about the current state? Have Ku hoops? Hunter
Speaker 2: Dickens is better than Zubi edge of four Dickenster edge
Speaker 2: of four trade was working? I feel worse Like this
Speaker 2: is like whenever an NFL team makes a trade and
Speaker 2: with the draft pick they acquire, they get a very
Speaker 2: very good player, and they spend more time focused on
Speaker 2: the pick they traded away, Like, guys, it's the other
Speaker 2: team was going to get a good player out of this.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a real trade, but you knew you
Speaker 2: were getting. That's a trade that you you make again
Speaker 2: tomorrow if you get especially seeing the results. If you
Speaker 2: had seen the results, you're still taking Hunter to get
Speaker 2: rid of both Zoobie and uh Ode. That was that
Speaker 2: was an easy one here. Elliot Risina says, let's put
Speaker 2: this into perspective. We've been treated to so many good
Speaker 2: self teams over the years that this could have happened
Speaker 2: with any team. They need to stop with all the
Speaker 2: fire Bill and the kids don't care talk. Sometimes it
Speaker 2: just simply doesn't go well gel wise. In the nil era,
Speaker 2: the rosters boom or bust.
Speaker 3: I agree, but I think the kids don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I that I'm willing to give Bill the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt to flush this core and see
Speaker 2: if he really is struggling to it, because it is
Speaker 2: Next year is going to be the biggest indicator. Well
Speaker 2: next people who are saying he can't he can't win
Speaker 2: in the portal era, like next year is gonna gonna
Speaker 2: really shine some light on that, and I predict that
Speaker 2: it won't get there. I think Kansas will be very
Speaker 2: good next year.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Well, it said that for two years in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have at Presidence cursing. Everyone says this team
Speaker 2: doesn't fit together well, but I don't really feel that way.
Speaker 2: Is the issue that this team doesn't fit together, or
Speaker 2: is the issue that the lineups that do fit together
Speaker 2: haven't been given extended run hash time to work through
Speaker 2: some of the kinks. It is both. I think it's
Speaker 2: more two than one. I think there is a winning
Speaker 2: combination with this team to a relative extent. I don't
Speaker 2: think that that and I think that is with Les Harris,
Speaker 2: way less kJ and way more Floory.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a narrow window, though very low
Speaker 1: margin for error on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Correct, and Preston's Kirsik also says, there have been a
Speaker 2: lot of sad moments this year, But at what moment
Speaker 2: did you feel the saddest.
Speaker 3: Hmm, Houston Moss at home. Probably.
Speaker 2: I think it was the Waco game that I think
Speaker 2: the Baylor game was when I got kicked in the nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it's the Baylor one. I
Speaker 1: think the moment where I really realized the team is
Speaker 1: dead is honestly the Colorado win. Le proof.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the bad week. Two more here that
Speaker 2: we will answer at Mayo. Zeke Bernard. We think the
Speaker 2: backcourt of Peterson, El Marco Quoit and Jamari McDowell is
Speaker 2: good enough or would you add another guy? Uh, it's
Speaker 2: Peterson and the rest of the gang. Like if I
Speaker 2: swear to God, I will take back all of my
Speaker 2: patient Bill self quotes. If that guy starts El Marco
Speaker 2: Jackson at the point and tries to have Darren Peterson
Speaker 2: play the two guards, I will lose it and come
Speaker 2: unglued like no one in the show ever has. This
Speaker 2: needs to be. Here's the ball, Darren, do whatever the
Speaker 2: hell you want for forty minutes a game. That was
Speaker 2: what next year needs to be. I think that backcourt
Speaker 2: is enough.
Speaker 1: Those backcourt that three of those guys will not start
Speaker 1: for Kansas next year, and the other is Darren Peterson.
Speaker 1: They will portle the frick out of the roster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they will.
Speaker 2: And I would take quite back. I would take David
Speaker 2: Koit back. He's got another year. I would absolutely take
Speaker 2: him back. Why would you not, He's an off the
Speaker 2: bench leader. I think that's a good that's a good fit.
Speaker 2: At Preston's curs sake. Obviously we're Jayhawks for life. But
Speaker 2: if you had to jump ship and Bandwagon one team.
Speaker 2: Who would it be? Can you cannot say Michigan State?
Speaker 2: He adds, yes, it's bad.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 2: Correct Love Love Nate Oates at justin ks to NYC.
Speaker 2: Is it a coincidence that our rating match at ranking
Speaker 2: now matches Michael Jordan's number? Is it a signed threes
Speaker 2: are about to rain down? Oh yeah, yeah, no, here
Speaker 2: it comes. Well, they're coming down, but it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be from this team because the final question here at
Speaker 2: KU twenty twenty two, Natty over under b Yu threes
Speaker 2: made tomorrow night. Oh buddy, here's your answer. And on
Speaker 2: that note, Babe number twenty three Kansas at by You
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, February eighteenth, at eight pm on ESPN. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be cold. Yeah, it's gonna be minus thirty
Speaker 2: level col Then, yes, there's gonna be snow all over
Speaker 2: the place. So take off your shoes and watch a
Speaker 2: bunch of white guys make threes on the Jayhawks. What
Speaker 2: a great way to spend a Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: BYU is seventeen and eight and eight and six in
Speaker 1: the league. That's the same record as Kansas. Ryan has
Speaker 1: posted four pictures of the whitest men you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: They are all players for the BYU Cougars. Every year
Speaker 1: BYU's entire roster features at least one guy that's not white.
Speaker 1: Usually it's only about one. Maybe it's two. Next year
Speaker 1: will be aj Debond, so that'll be fun for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, they surround that one guy with sometimes that
Speaker 1: I can shoot too. They had the guy that Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Now he was a very good shooter as well.
Speaker 2: Jontheles, but he is a point guard. Well, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: just talking about black guys. I thought you were talking
Speaker 2: about centers. Okay, you met a guy. Yeah, they're one.
Speaker 1: Black guy because you're saying that that guy's usually a center.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he is, uh, sometimes they're they're one non white
Speaker 1: guy is also a shooter because BYU believes in one
Speaker 1: thing and one thing only, and that is firebomb threes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the one black guy on this year's team is
Speaker 1: sixty six. Uh tough, tough name even for me here
Speaker 1: Uh Fuseni Trey or Treory.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's the center. He has nine and six. They also
Speaker 1: have Keba Caida, who is also from Mali, at six
Speaker 1: eight two thirty. If they need a bigger body to
Speaker 1: hold Hunter he had six and eight. Both these players
Speaker 1: shoot sixty three percent from the floor, which is quite good.
Speaker 3: And then there are the white guys. Richie Saunders is
Speaker 3: the team's best player with fifteen points and three point eight.
Speaker 3: White guy Trevin Noll forty two, White guy Dawson Baker
Speaker 3: shout out to Dawson. A lot of Dawson's at BYU
Speaker 3: thirty nine actually is down, not Dawson, and same thing.
Speaker 3: And white guy Dalen shout out to Dallan. There you
Speaker 3: our Dallen Hall thirty five percent. Are all here to
Speaker 3: make a bunch of threes and say, gosh darn fiddle
Speaker 3: sticks when they rarely miss them. They also have a
Speaker 3: white guy, Igor Demon and his eleven points playing forward,
Speaker 3: but he only makes twenty eight percent of his threes,
Speaker 3: which means tomorrow he will go five for six.
Speaker 2: So here's the BYU analysis. Here's the scatting report from
Speaker 2: Rockschok blog. BYU is a top fifteen offensive team per
Speaker 2: ken Pom, but they are outside the top seventy on defense,
Speaker 2: which means that Kansas, if they play an above average game,
Speaker 2: might be able to crack the sixty five point mark. Here,
Speaker 2: so we know that BYU takes and makes a lot
Speaker 2: of threes on average. They get average here. They make
Speaker 2: eleven per game and shoot twenty nine times. That averages
Speaker 2: out to thirty seven percent. Those are all good numbers.
Speaker 2: They're a good passing team, they're an okay rebounding one,
Speaker 2: and they're pretty uninteresting in most other metrics where they
Speaker 2: do poorly in the in the ken Pom rankings. They
Speaker 2: are bad at drawing fouls. They're even worse at shooting
Speaker 2: free throws. Under seventy percent as a team is one
Speaker 2: of the worst in any team, out of any team
Speaker 2: in college basketball. They're not good at anything on the
Speaker 2: defensive end. They're not super tall, they're not super athletic.
Speaker 2: They're not good at blocking shots. It's very simple with BYU,
Speaker 2: arguably as simple as any team in the country. They're
Speaker 2: going to take a ton of threes, regardless of how
Speaker 2: good your defense is. If they're on, they're probably gonna
Speaker 2: beat you. If they're having it off night, they're probably
Speaker 2: gonna lose to anybody in the conference. And that is
Speaker 2: an incredibly unlikely event that they're not making a ton
Speaker 2: of them. They are a threat to get boat raced.
Speaker 1: All time Kansas is four and two against BYU. Their
Speaker 1: losses are last year in Allenfield House and in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty a trip to Provo, eighteen years before black people
Speaker 1: were allowed to go to Heaven and Mormonism. Kansas's last
Speaker 1: win against the Cougars was in twenty nineteen Maui Tournament,
Speaker 1: where TJ. Hawes made a handful of threes in that
Speaker 1: Gamey Bau's top excuse me, my brain shorted out. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was karma from the black people comment I made
Speaker 1: about Mormonism. It's your fault Fournism. Bau's top nine minute
Speaker 1: getters were named Dalton Colby, Alex TJ. Jake Blaize, Taylor
Speaker 1: Zach and Connor A. Mere Cole. There's no Dallen in there.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Blaze? Can we talk about Blaze?
Speaker 2: The Mormon?
Speaker 1: Zach z A C Is a perfect name for someone
Speaker 1: that plays for BYU. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think TJ. Hawes is the perfect BYU player when
Speaker 2: you really think about it. Though, there's a picture of
Speaker 2: him in the notes. He was twenty five years old
Speaker 2: when that picture is taken, and that man's hair has
Speaker 2: pieced out a decade ago, and he looked like he
Speaker 2: could be forty four with three children.
Speaker 1: That's the way he lives, I promise you.
Speaker 2: So let's pick this game. Is this is this as
Speaker 2: open and shut as Kansas is gonna lose, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna make a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of threes BYU seventy three Kansas sixty four.
Speaker 3: Yep CA BYU seventy six, Kansas sixty eight.
Speaker 2: I am going to say, Wow, Kansas isn't good Ryan,
Speaker 2: They're not that good Landon. But here's the thing. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna pick them to win this game. I'm gonna pick
Speaker 2: them to prevent their season from falling out. BYU opens
Speaker 2: as a one point favorite. So as laugh out loud
Speaker 2: funny as that may sound, this is basically a pick
Speaker 2: them and I I like the matchup with BYU.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I think kansas Is three point defense has been the
Speaker 2: strongest part of their team. I think Hunter Dickinson matches
Speaker 2: up terrifically with the yam nobody that theoretically should be
Speaker 2: able to stop this guy. Like on paper, if you
Speaker 2: look at this game on paper, you would say that Kansas,
Speaker 2: with their athleticism and their size, they absolutely should have
Speaker 2: their way with BYU. Inside, I think Kansas is better
Speaker 2: than BYU. I think that Kansas gets it on on
Speaker 2: the road and win seventy six to sixty eight, And
Speaker 2: I'm very well may be wrong and all curb your enthusiasm,
Speaker 2: all of it, but I gotta think that a team
Speaker 2: with a Hall of Fame coach and as much talent
Speaker 2: as this team still has, not being at Kansas in
Speaker 2: the past levels, but still a very talented roster. I
Speaker 2: gotta think eventually you see them breakthrough and get one
Speaker 2: of these. And I wonder, what is the vibe gonna
Speaker 2: be if they go in there and they win this game.
Speaker 2: Is that gonna start to make people feel better? Because
Speaker 2: I think it is that'll save their top twenty five streak.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as feeling better for a team
Speaker 1: that's gonna lose maybe in the first round or around
Speaker 1: to thirty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't think a win does anything. You
Speaker 2: don't think a win does anything to up morale. Okay.
Speaker 2: Twitter's a fickle place, and I think that you're gonna
Speaker 2: see them start to tuck themselves back into getting the
Speaker 2: right draw. I'm not saying we will, which we have before,
Speaker 2: but Twitter's a fickle place. Save the streak, go win
Speaker 2: a game on the road and and you're it's it's
Speaker 2: a it's a coin flip in Vegas. Win a freaking
Speaker 2: road game. You're the preseason number one team, and you
Speaker 2: play at Kansas, show a little pride. I'll pick them
Speaker 2: and do it. We'll see if it happens other games
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve? Are we missing a game here?
Speaker 2: Did I only write six other Big Twelve games? I
Speaker 2: might be missing one here, Number nineteen Arizona. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: know which one I'm missing, Number nineteen Arizona at Baylor.
Speaker 2: I will take the fighting Scott Drews at home, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't love it same uh Arizona.
Speaker 2: Uh. Kansas State at Utah Wildcats had a really really
Speaker 2: brutal loss to BYU. They really can't afford to do
Speaker 2: another one. I will say, they get it done. Give
Speaker 2: me the Cats on the road. Gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I'm so confused because that game already happened.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, you were pretending, Yeah, we were pretending. Who
Speaker 2: would Who would you have picked? Who did? Who would?
Speaker 2: Your Draft Kings account shows that you may have lost
Speaker 2: a wagers.
Speaker 3: We do a great also show up here, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm so kind of yeah, kind of wild that we
Speaker 1: couldn't just say like it didn't occur to any of us,
Speaker 1: just be like that game happened, We're not gonna pick
Speaker 1: it because it happened when, Yeah, why, because we're not
Speaker 1: slavishly committed to just picking every Big Twelve games. We
Speaker 1: had to pretend like we it hadn't happened yet. If
Speaker 1: we don't know what that game.
Speaker 2: You know what? That sounds like Landon. That sounds like
Speaker 2: someone who's utterly terrified they're gonna get gunned down in
Speaker 2: Chicago here in a few weeks. Like absolutely trying to
Speaker 2: get plant is just trying to get El's off the
Speaker 2: potential and what would have been El's off the record.
Speaker 2: They all count because I'm gonna get to the end
Speaker 2: of the year and be like, why the hell did
Speaker 2: we only pick one hundred and seventy eight Big Twelve
Speaker 2: games instead of one hundred and eighty. Oh yeah, that
Speaker 2: one night we did a show real late and Utah
Speaker 2: already beat k State.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Ryan's like, who do you think is gonna win
Speaker 3: Arizona Baylor? And I'm like, oh, the guys, I see
Speaker 3: the score right now, I might win this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be when cam Win's picked him by
Speaker 2: a point and he picked Arizona because they're in control
Speaker 2: of this game late. It's a it's a Mickey Mouse title.
Speaker 2: I think if I've ever heard one that there is
Speaker 2: this under protest.
Speaker 1: Now I officially under protest it, and it will be
Speaker 1: held up in court for several years, delaying my tricks
Speaker 1: in Chicago while.
Speaker 2: You disappeared to a foreign country while you wait. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Colorado at number eight Iowa State, don't know. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna tell you if this game already happened or not,
Speaker 2: but it won't matter. Slash shouldn't matter. I will take
Speaker 2: the Cyclones Yep, yep. Number nine Texas Tech at TCU.
Speaker 2: Horn Frogs have been hot. Do they slow down the
Speaker 2: Red Raiders? Uh?
Speaker 1: It won't be as bad as the Oklahoma State game,
Speaker 1: but I will take Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: Yeah Tech.
Speaker 2: TCU is kind of on the bubble. They could really
Speaker 2: use this one. But Jamie Dixon never hovers far from
Speaker 2: five hundred. I think they take an l on the
Speaker 2: Red Raiders win. Yeah. Number five Houston at Arizona State.
Speaker 2: That feels like a blowout and it will be like
Speaker 2: a nine point final and be like, huh, Houston got
Speaker 2: bored again, but they'll still win.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm ryding with my son Devil's one more time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him out.
Speaker 2: Wow wow wow. Uh fast forward here to April third,
Speaker 2: or whatever day that is, land and be like, wow,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of dairy queens in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 2: Maybe after Landon officially quits this show. I just caught
Speaker 2: what Cam said. But hey, can there's an Angel Reese
Speaker 2: McDonald's combo meal commercial on my TV right now, come
Speaker 2: with a brick for.
Speaker 3: The toy.
Speaker 1: Right into that one, didn't I come with the sight
Speaker 1: of jealousy.
Speaker 2: Hey, I like looking. I much prefer Angel Reese and
Speaker 2: these commercials to John Cena, I guess. But after Landon
Speaker 2: officially quits this show. Uh, that is whenever we will
Speaker 2: tell you what the pick and punishment was. Hello, with
Speaker 2: US Cincinnati at West Virginia. I think these teams hate
Speaker 2: each other, so I will pick the home team.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Sure, UCF at Oklahoma State. That may be the most
Speaker 2: unwatchable game out of all one hundred and eighty of these.
Speaker 1: Give me every week about one of them.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going with UCF on the road. I kind
Speaker 2: of agree but they're really slumping right now, Cowboys. You
Speaker 2: don't think the Cowboys get caught looking ahead to their
Speaker 2: big showdown at Allen Field House this weekend. It's Bryce
Speaker 2: Thompson's finale at the Fog for realest time and year
Speaker 2: number five. Yeah, I'll take the Cowboys. Other games. Number three,
Speaker 2: Duke at Virginia. Do we think that the Hoosiers are Hoosiers?
Speaker 2: Not them? Do we think that the Cavaliers the Who's
Speaker 2: offer any resistance the fighting flags? Gotta be real careful
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: L another game that already happened, but we're still picking
Speaker 1: for some reason. That's not even a big twelve game.
Speaker 2: Duke did win, Yeah, and would have none of us
Speaker 2: show Virginia correct, So we'll give up. See So don't
Speaker 2: you feel like you have a better on good on better? Conscious?
Speaker 2: Can say, Duke there because you knew you wouldn't have cam.
Speaker 2: I know you would have picked Baylor to win against
Speaker 2: Arizona at home. That was dirty.
Speaker 3: No, I did not. I actually picked there.
Speaker 1: I picked.
Speaker 2: I can pull up in drafts, I can pull my
Speaker 2: receipt for losing the parlay that included Kansas State, But
Speaker 2: I picked Arizona. Monk cams like I always put my
Speaker 2: hard earned United States currency in Caleb Love's hands.
Speaker 3: And road games yep, never let me down before.
Speaker 2: What could go wrong? For the record, That game is
Speaker 2: a four point game with two minutes left, so that
Speaker 2: could go either way. I guess number thirteen perdue at
Speaker 2: the Breslin Centator to take on fourteenth Michigan State. Do
Speaker 2: the Spartans continue kicking Purdue during their slump?
Speaker 1: I say yes, Yeah, I think Michigan State makes a
Speaker 1: real nice power claim here and gets a win against Purdue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I.
Speaker 2: Think Michigan State's gonna win that league. Yeah. Illinois at
Speaker 2: number eleven Wisconsin trap game potential, Wisconsin coming on a
Speaker 2: high high. Do they get it done at home against
Speaker 2: their bitter rival?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Illinois beats him on the road.
Speaker 3: Good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oregon at Iowa and the I needed a seventh game,
Speaker 2: so have fun with this. Give me, give me the
Speaker 2: Hawkeyes yay Sea Land, and imagine where we'd be without
Speaker 2: Without the games that already happened, I'd really be struggling
Speaker 2: to get pick them points.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm so glad that there's no other amount
Speaker 1: of games we could pick Iowa.
Speaker 3: Sure, give me the Ducks.
Speaker 2: Number seven, Texas A and M at number twenty one
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. I'm sure that the road pick is going
Speaker 2: to be super popular here, but I think Texas A
Speaker 2: and M is a top four SEC team. I think
Speaker 2: they're very good, and I think they win here.
Speaker 1: I will not believe in Mississippi State again. Give me
Speaker 1: Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: Yeah. A and M.
Speaker 2: Number four Alabama at the Zoo Crub. Tough matchup for
Speaker 2: them at number twenty one Missouri. Alabama's schedule is preposterous
Speaker 2: down the stretch here do they get it done? In
Speaker 2: Colombia they.
Speaker 1: Win by twenty, they come out pissed and win by twenty.
Speaker 3: I'll take Bama.
Speaker 2: Here is Alabama's last six games. I agree. These are
Speaker 2: their six opponents. You guys ready for this At number
Speaker 2: fifteen Missouri versus number seventeen Kentucky versus number twenty one
Speaker 2: Mississippi State at number six, Tennessee versus number two Florida
Speaker 2: at number one Auburn.
Speaker 1: That's that's the nuttiest stretch of college basketball I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But they gotta win some of them, and I agree
Speaker 2: they get Missouri and number ten Saint John's at DePaul.
Speaker 2: Did DePaul win just became will de Paul win? No?
Speaker 2: They will not? No, No, lost by a lot. Nope, yep,
Speaker 2: I needed it was a rough. It was hard getting
Speaker 2: to seven other games. So you know that I like
Speaker 2: to keep round numbers because that's easier to add. We
Speaker 2: will be back later this week to talk about Kansas
Speaker 2: winning in Provo, and they will white guy the white
Speaker 2: guy when one of their walk ons comes in and
Speaker 2: makes threes because they're up by thirty in garbage time.
Speaker 2: That's when Dwan Harris will finally play twenty six minutes
Speaker 2: a game. Sure, oh good, this is itp I'm Ryan Landreth.
Speaker 1: I'm landing fields that I'm Kamla Pool.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, say goodbye to the top twenty
Speaker 2: five streak.
Speaker 3: Yeah bye, Bill.
Speaker 1: Good chance.