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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>This is KFI Bill Handle here on Tuesday Taco Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>September the third. Some of the stories were looking at

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<v Speaker 2>Britain is suspending some arms exports to Israel because well, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel is losing a lot of support among the world

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<v Speaker 2>because the number of Palestinians that have been killed by

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli attacks over forty thousand now and reaching into that war.

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<v Speaker 2>The latest that happened over the weekend is the demonstrations

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<v Speaker 2>in Israel. Hundreds of thousands of protesters hit the streets

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<v Speaker 2>against what Benjamin Netanyahu pushed back and said, We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to cut a deal with the Jamas, with the

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<v Speaker 2>Arrists and Hamas because they're not doing enough. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that are stopping the negotiations from going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's just saying no, he's saying he will not

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<v Speaker 1>give in.

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<v Speaker 2>And what set off the latest was six hostages, including

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<v Speaker 2>one America. One American were found dead, and it's they

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<v Speaker 2>were found dead, It's not as if they were killed

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<v Speaker 2>during the initial raid October seventh, when the terrorist group

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<v Speaker 2>overran the border and massacred twelve hundred Israelis.

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<v Speaker 1>This has to do with six that.

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<v Speaker 2>Were being held in tunnels, and what looks like happened

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<v Speaker 2>is Israeli forces raided the tunnels and as Israeli forces

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<v Speaker 2>got near the tunnel entrance itself, it looks like what

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas did is execute the hostages minutes before the Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>forces were able to enter the tunnels. And that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be a new level of horrificness that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And what the protests are about is simply saying, cut

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<v Speaker 2>a deal with Hamas, no matter what they want, you

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<v Speaker 2>cut a deal. Hamas wants the end of the war,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel to leave Gaza completely. Israel says we have to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain a presence there because Hamas has said over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, October seventh will be repeated over and over

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<v Speaker 2>again until Israel is destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of fun. What does a government in Israel

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<v Speaker 1>do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>And the families of the hostages, and you can't blame

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<v Speaker 2>them because these are family members, saying it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>what Hamas wants.

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<v Speaker 1>You cut the deal, you get our hostages back. And

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<v Speaker 1>that to out netting.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's holding firm, holding firm, and what makes it even worse,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where it's a new level. Hamas has

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<v Speaker 2>said any attempt to rescue the hostages will then cause

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<v Speaker 2>the immediate death of those hostages. We will kill them

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<v Speaker 2>and they will return to Israel in coffins. Well, Israel

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<v Speaker 2>has exploded and it's going both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>There are plenty of.

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<v Speaker 2>People that back up Natanyahu, and he certainly has a point,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said we cannot let Hamas continue on.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is Hamas will continue on.

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<v Speaker 2>There are those who are saying we should cut a

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<v Speaker 2>deal because Israel has degraded Hamas's ability to create any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a war, any kind of an attack on

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<v Speaker 2>Israel like it did. It will not happen again. Israel

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<v Speaker 2>will be prepared. Others say that it doesn't matter. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to kill these people, you have to cut off

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<v Speaker 2>the head. And both sides have point, they really do.

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<v Speaker 2>And Hamas is saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're willing to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, instead of five hundred Palestinians for each hostage,

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<v Speaker 2>each civilian hostages were now down to only fifty Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>prisoners released, some of them, by the way, convicted of murder,

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<v Speaker 2>some of this which convicted of planting bombs, planning the

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<v Speaker 2>attack on civilians to try to kill as many as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We want them all back.

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<v Speaker 2>Haya Sinhwar, who heads the militant group Hamas heads the

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<v Speaker 2>military arm was one of the prisoners returned when negotiations happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Ghilid Shalit or Ghilad Shalit, who was that soldier

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<v Speaker 2>was captured by Hamas. After six years, he was returned

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<v Speaker 2>for one thousand Palestinian prisoners that were held them. Sinwar,

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<v Speaker 2>who came back to head the Palestinian military. Natanyahu has

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<v Speaker 2>pledged total victory. He says it's their fault. Will have

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<v Speaker 2>a cease fire if that includes the release of some hostages,

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<v Speaker 2>a partial pull out of Israeli troops, a release of

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<v Speaker 2>some prisoners held by Israel. But we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a full withdrawal. It simply isn't going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course Hamas is saying that they offer great

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<v Speaker 2>flexibility inclusing their demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's great flexibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Any attempt to free those hostages will cause the immediate

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<v Speaker 2>death of any.

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<v Speaker 1>Hostages that are in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>And to show you what kind of absolute animals Hamas is,

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<v Speaker 2>and even those of you who are in favor of Hamas,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that they had no choice because of the oppression,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the years of being treated as second class

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<v Speaker 2>citizens in Israel and being just oppressed, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>no land and Israel has taken it all. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a point. How do you defend number one? The killing,

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<v Speaker 2>the massacre of twelve hundred and the holding on to

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<v Speaker 2>bodies of dead Israelis for negotiation purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Won't even return the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bodies to the families so they can lose, so they

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<v Speaker 2>can be buried.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where do you go with that? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Natanyahu going to collapse? Is the government going to collapse?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to fail?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>But the pressure not only internationally, but the pressure domestically

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<v Speaker 2>is growing more and more in Israeli families, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>are saying it doesn't matter what Hamas wants. You cut

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<v Speaker 2>the deal with them, you get our hostages back.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, they have to have a pass, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in it. I don't believe Israel shit

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<v Speaker 2>cave on this. I don't have a family member. It's

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<v Speaker 2>easy for me to say, sitting here in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>behind a microphone Costco as you know, is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>place to go to. As a matter of fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing a Costco run today. And in addition, when you

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<v Speaker 2>go to Costco, in addition to getting a palette of

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<v Speaker 2>toilet paper or paper towels, or getting bags and bags

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<v Speaker 2>of frozen food and frozen burritos, you'll notice they have

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<v Speaker 2>a pharmacy and people are well.

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<v Speaker 1>Are those of us who go to.

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<v Speaker 2>The pharmacy know that it is well? It's Is it

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<v Speaker 2>a secret? Not really.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd think there'd be lines and lines, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turns out that Costco pharmacy, the price of pharmaceuticals.

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<v Speaker 1>Is low low.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I take ambient zulpidem and I was out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I had my prescription and the Costco was

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<v Speaker 2>too far away, so I called the local CBS and

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<v Speaker 2>the local Walgrens. At Costco, thirty pills cost me eleven

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<v Speaker 2>dollars ninety nine cents. At CVS, it was one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five dollars. At Walgrens it was one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty dollars. This is for thirty generic pills. And

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<v Speaker 2>so what is happening is Walgreens and CVS and ride

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<v Speaker 2>Aid are basically imploding. They are imploding, they're cutting costs,

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<v Speaker 2>they're closing stores. Now, this reflects challenges in an industry,

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<v Speaker 2>and these challenges we're brewing four years and they're shutting

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<v Speaker 2>down stores. Walgreens in June said a quarter of the

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<v Speaker 2>company's eighty six hundred US stores were underperforming and a

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<v Speaker 2>good number of them are going to be closed down.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other things, CBS has a store every corner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a CVS and then a quarter mile away

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<v Speaker 2>you have another CVS, and I guess people go to

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<v Speaker 2>CVS not as much because the cost has gone up.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, they're trying to cut costs and

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<v Speaker 2>they're between a rock and a hard pat place. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that is makes up drugs so expensive

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<v Speaker 2>is well, first of all, you've got giants like Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>and Walmart that's going on for drugs, certainly Costco and

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<v Speaker 2>other places where you get pharmacy pharmaceutical So what do

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<v Speaker 2>they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The companies depend on something called Pharmacy Benefit Managers PBMs,

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<v Speaker 2>who have control over how much pharmacies get reimbursed for

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<v Speaker 2>the drugs they sell to customers, and they basically are

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<v Speaker 2>the middleman between insurance companies and the pharmacies. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were there to help lower prices. Well it's turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're doing now is helping to increase prices. Our

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<v Speaker 2>system is broken, completely broken. The big pharmaceutical companies make

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<v Speaker 2>all their money in the United States. Why because they can? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the old philosophy is why do dogs lick

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<v Speaker 2>their gonads? Because they can? And that's precisely the point

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<v Speaker 2>in this country. Go to any other country, you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>the same drug packaging is just in a different language,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to pay a third, a fifth, a

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<v Speaker 2>tenth for the same drug.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because it's controlled in those other countries.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we go back to why I believe we

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<v Speaker 2>need a single payer, which is another way to describe

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<v Speaker 2>national health. I've always used the example of France and

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<v Speaker 2>Germany and Italy and the UK. The government negotiates, there

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<v Speaker 2>are any middlemen. The government negotiates And can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how much power when you have any entity representing thirty

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<v Speaker 2>million people talking to a pharmaceutical company. Yeah, well here

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have that. Not only do we not have that,

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare for the first time is able to negotiate prices

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<v Speaker 2>from the pharmaceutical companies for those of us who are

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<v Speaker 2>over sixty five. Before that, it was illegal for Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>to negotiate prices on behalf of Medicare patients. Impossible. You

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it by law. So it's now turning around.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I said, Costco is where I go because

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<v Speaker 2>look at that price.

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<v Speaker 1>And I use ulpidem but also antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I go to the dentists because I

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<v Speaker 2>had my heart thing, I have to take antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 1>When I get my teeth cleaned, I go to Costco.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight bucks for a whole bottle full of antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty bucks at a Walgreens or Ride Aid. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Rite Aid is the one that's in the most trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day, I went to Rite Aid and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get.

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<v Speaker 1>A toothbrush because I was out for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>My toothbrush broke, and so I'm going in there and

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<v Speaker 2>the place was empty, empty.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no one in the store. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big store, and I couldn't see anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine going to a major pharmaceutical, a major

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<v Speaker 2>pharmacy a major drug store and they sell everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and there's nobody in there. How does a

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<v Speaker 2>business stay alive, Well, they don't, they don't. Ride Aid

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<v Speaker 2>has filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy. They did that in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, and they just announced plans to shut

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<v Speaker 2>down eighteen more locations because you've got creditors. Lawsuits are

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<v Speaker 2>happening over the opioid prescription. That's also what's killing all

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and all three of the big ones Walgreens, CVS, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Ride Aid, although I don't know how big Rite Aid

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<v Speaker 1>is anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have the same financial positions where CBS is

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest. They are looking at their footprint, how big

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<v Speaker 2>there's are, what their business model is, the lowering margins

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<v Speaker 2>and changing consumer trends. And at the same time, when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about drugs that are new on the market,

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<v Speaker 2>the astronomical cost of drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's to the point where.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single drug that's out there you see on TV

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't afford the drug, Astrozenica or Eli Lilly

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<v Speaker 1>What does that tell you when.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single commercial says if you can't afford the drug,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty much everybody isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't tell you on those commercials because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Will tell you how wonderful you are and you're dancing

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<v Speaker 2>of that commercial are the disclaimers.

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<v Speaker 1>You will die, you will lose your limbs, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Will have a hacking cough, your stomach will fall out

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<v Speaker 2>of your body. Whatever they do, they have to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that. What they don't tell you is how much

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<v Speaker 1>That they don't tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, the drug and I don't see the commercial

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<v Speaker 2>anymore that cures hepatitis C. It's not just a vaccine.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an outright cure. After you got hepatitis C, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And you go, what a breakthrough.

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<v Speaker 2>What they didn't tell you is the eight week course

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<v Speaker 2>that it took. You have to do an eight week course.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many injections per eight weeks. That

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<v Speaker 2>cost a very affordable one hundred thousand dollars. But if

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<v Speaker 2>know what that means. All right, Now, here's a job

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<v Speaker 2>for you, and that is working for the California highway patrol.

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<v Speaker 2>One in six of those jobs are vacant, even in

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<v Speaker 2>light of historic raises and a new hiring campaign. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, one in six are vacant, much higher than

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty sixteen, and the last two years have been massive,

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<v Speaker 2>massive races raises. Gavin Newsom agreed to a new contract

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<v Speaker 2>with the union that represents the officers that's expected to

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<v Speaker 2>cost four hundred and eighty million dollars over the next

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<v Speaker 2>three years because of raises enhanced pay incentives. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>promoting a recruiting program called CHP one thousand, and he

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<v Speaker 2>launched that in twenty twenty two to hire hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>new officers. So let's go and examine how much money

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<v Speaker 2>you can get. Let's start with twenty twenty three officers

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<v Speaker 2>got an eight percent wage increase.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their biggest raise in twenty years. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>There aren't too many of us that have gotten eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent wage increase. Matter of fact, CONO and I much

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of wage increase have we gotten in the

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<v Speaker 2>last four or five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Nada.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's got to the point now and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart isn't alone in this. Corporations have come to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where you know, you just get a stay at

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<v Speaker 2>your job is considered a raise, and that is so

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<v Speaker 2>many corporations are doing that because they're simply demanding.

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<v Speaker 1>More of their workers.

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<v Speaker 2>So there aren't too many of us that have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent raise. In twenty twenty two, they got a

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<v Speaker 2>six percent raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty two to six percent raise and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three another eight percent raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for this?

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie CHP officers, which is why you may want to

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<v Speaker 2>line up to get this job, can expect to earn

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<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars first year

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<v Speaker 2>on duty, according to the CHP. Now, I'm assuming that's

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<v Speaker 2>an insane amount of overtime. But even the Legislative Analyst

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<v Speaker 2>Office can't explain why the vacancy rates skyrocketed by ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four percent between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty three. Twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of the positions were unfilled today over sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>one in six. Now, part of the problem is that

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just the way it works with the CHP.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you this agency is really sweet in.

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<v Speaker 1>Terms of the workers.

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<v Speaker 2>They have what is called a favored Nation clause in

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<v Speaker 2>their contract. By law, CHP officers are based their raisins

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<v Speaker 2>are based on the average compensation at five other law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement agencies La County Sheriff's LAPD, San Diego, Oakland, San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco PDS and you put all those together the average wage.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the CHP gets a raised the next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So if LAPD gets a raise, it raises the average.

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<v Speaker 2>And for some reason it's hard to get cops. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. Well, maybe because cops are hated.

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<v Speaker 2>That may be one thing, because it's considered more dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>than it was before. Officer Krupski on the street is

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<v Speaker 2>no one knows who the cop is. They used to

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<v Speaker 2>have walking cops who had their own neighborhood and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the neighborhood would know who they are. Every local

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<v Speaker 2>donut shop a cop would walk in. Of course, they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't pay for donuts, which is why all police officers

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<v Speaker 2>looked like they had dandruff.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. It was powdered sugar. And there aren't too

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<v Speaker 1>many people that just love cops.

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<v Speaker 2>I do when a cop shows up, I feel safe,

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<v Speaker 2>But then I'm not a young black man in my

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<v Speaker 2>twenties either.

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<v Speaker 1>Where there is. What's real is driving while black.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally believe that, even though cops and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge disagreement on that. So you've got these raises

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<v Speaker 2>that are automatic based on favored nation. When that goes

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<v Speaker 2>up and other agencies, you average that and the CHP

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<v Speaker 2>goes up. Also, the retention contracts, officers with more than

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven years of experience now get an incentive for

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of their base wages. So if a rookie

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<v Speaker 2>officer is making one hundred and seventeen or one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year, you would think that a veteran

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<v Speaker 2>would be making.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they get fifteen thousand dollars to stay another year,

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<v Speaker 2>more money for motorcycle cops, more money for officers who

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<v Speaker 2>work with police dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Reasons why there aren't enough officers out there, and HP

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<v Speaker 2>is just a poster child for this, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>love for police officers has for the most part disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>It has become more dangerous to be a police officer,

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<v Speaker 2>although statistically I don't know if that's true or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But we hear about the ambushes. Cops are considered the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy, especially in minority communities. Today, if a cop

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<v Speaker 2>is called to a domestic violence call, the assumption is

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<v Speaker 2>or they're fearful of.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting shot being ambushed. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've been stopped by a cop lately, when they

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<v Speaker 2>go up on the street, you will see that the

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<v Speaker 2>cops are a lot less friendly and they're more apt

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<v Speaker 2>to be just more cognizant of what you're doing, doing

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<v Speaker 2>what your hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Are doing than they did before.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think the good news is I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that they have lowered their standards. I do not believe

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<v Speaker 2>that police forces have lowered their standards.

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<v Speaker 1>The LAPD says, well, no.

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<v Speaker 2>The CHP said that it received more applications to its

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<v Speaker 2>academy in the first half of this year than in

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<v Speaker 2>saint period in twenty twenty three. And I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>to many police officers. It is not easy to become

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<v Speaker 2>a cop. Standards are very high, the psychological testing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, you want to be a cop because you

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<v Speaker 2>like shooting people. You want to be That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>why I can't be a cop because you know, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go out of my mind. At a point

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<v Speaker 2>there was one very highly placed officer that for years

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<v Speaker 2>invited me to do a ride along with the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Occasionally you can do that people in the media and

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<v Speaker 2>some people in the police. You can do a ride along,

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<v Speaker 2>actually sit in a police car and drive and when

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<v Speaker 2>they go, when they have a call, you're there. And

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a call where someone with a weapon

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<v Speaker 2>is involved, you're there. And they tell you get behind

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<v Speaker 2>the car. I mean, they are not going to stop

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<v Speaker 2>simply because a civilian is there in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would never ever go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why I would never go because I would

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<v Speaker 2>always ask can I kill someone? Will you let me

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<v Speaker 2>shoot someone? And it was always no, you cannot. All

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<v Speaker 2>you can do is ride along. So then why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not interested? You know, why would I go on a

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<v Speaker 2>ride along if I can't actually kill someone. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is you've got kids that don't know what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how about the CHP's it's a pretty good career.

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<v Speaker 2>The money is very good, the best and if it's

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<v Speaker 2>very good, and you have to go over the hump.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think at some point the police are going

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<v Speaker 2>to come back to being admired and loved by the

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<v Speaker 2>general population.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think so. And I want to end with this.

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<v Speaker 2>When I see a cop, I feel safer unless I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being pulled over.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like it. In the meantime. I once asked

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<v Speaker 1>Moe A.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly, who is African American, and I asked him, when

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<v Speaker 2>you see a cop or you're pulled over, what you

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<v Speaker 2>think he said? He says, I think there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some kind of an altercation, or at least I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be looked at very differently than you would, Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that. By the way, I totally believe that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>A quick word about the state and the plan to

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<v Speaker 2>fund our transportation system. And I'm talking about the roads.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about public transportation. Thirty nine million people rely

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<v Speaker 2>on it every day. And so what and who pays

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<v Speaker 2>for all of that? Well, the main source of funding

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<v Speaker 2>is gas tax revenues. And what is going on, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>people like me are buying evs and that means we

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<v Speaker 2>don't pay gas tax. I don't use gasoline. Now, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a special registration fee of one hundred and eight

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>However, if you drive a car that is an eternal

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<v Speaker 1>combustion engine.

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<v Speaker 2>Your normal car, you're paying about three hundred dollars per

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<v Speaker 2>year in taxes, so you're paying three times as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I do, and that means there is a shortfall. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>California is among the worst rated states for road and

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<v Speaker 2>highway conditions and transit and other modes of transportation. We've

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<v Speaker 2>been edging close to a fiscal cliff. This is not sustainable,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not equitable because I don't pay taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's going to happen is you've got some serious

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<v Speaker 2>consequences for communities across the state unless state.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaders can agree on a viable plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that gets kind of fun because you've got EV

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<v Speaker 2>drivers and manufacturers. The VV cars are saying no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point of EV is not to pay taxes

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<v Speaker 2>or not to spend money on gasoline, which includes taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>More and more, Politico had an event where you had

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<v Speaker 2>public officials and industry leaders figuring out what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so many things are thrown up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>California's gas tax accounts for eighty percent of the budget

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<v Speaker 2>for maintaining the state highway and road repairs, and Boy

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<v Speaker 2>we have some great road repairs. You ever go to France,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, do you know even the back roads, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of roads that you can't drive on because

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<v Speaker 2>your car is going to lose its suspension in the

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<v Speaker 2>first ten feet. Even those back roads are perfectly maintained.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States is way way behind. Well, you've got no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not true. You got Yemen, South Sudan. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little worse in other countries where not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>quite as bad. But I keep on using France as

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<v Speaker 2>an example. But I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with the.

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<v Speaker 2>DMVFS for the EVS, without the tax at the pump,

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at an annual funding gap between four point

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<v Speaker 2>four and five billion dollars needed for maintaining public transit

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<v Speaker 2>pedestrian bike lanes, local streets, roads, highways, bridges, overpasses.

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<v Speaker 1>And bus and railroad transit.

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<v Speaker 2>The gas tax generates about one point three billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for bus and rail and so the Metro, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, a quick word about the Metro, A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of there's got a lot of hassle about the Metro,

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<v Speaker 2>how unsafe it is. It occurred to me a little

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<v Speaker 2>while ago that if you want to commit suicide and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have the balls to do it, buy a

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<v Speaker 2>ticket on the metro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that simple. Why not if this has.

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<v Speaker 2>Become a critical issue, not the suicide part, but the

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<v Speaker 2>declining revenues, and it's literally threatening, sorry about that, threatening

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<v Speaker 2>the funding of essential transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the experts telling us? A multi pronged, equitable approach.

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<v Speaker 2>This has to be multifaceted, which is always the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing moves without tran transportation infrastructure, so that has to

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<v Speaker 2>be at the top. One is a fee base road

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<v Speaker 2>user charge. Drivers paid by the mile instead of by

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<v Speaker 2>the gallon. All right, that makes sense because that means

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<v Speaker 2>all of us are paying the same amount. I still

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<v Speaker 2>think EV drivers are going to pay less.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not so.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it just becomes a question of the environmental impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I upset about the environmental impact with fossil fuels?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, For someone who doesn't give a rats about much

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<v Speaker 2>of anything, you know, particularly how you are affected by anything,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do care about fossil fuels. I also you

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this? I recycle? Would you ever have thought

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<v Speaker 2>that I recycle? My daughter is getting getting married a

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<v Speaker 2>coming up November and I'm trying to convince her to

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<v Speaker 2>instead of doing a traditional wedding, just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people's encircling a tree, eating bushes and keeping fossil fuels,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the lights, et cetera going on. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in that, But I'm actually concerned. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>solar system, so I don't go on the grid.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an EV you know, I actually give a

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<v Speaker 1>rats about that. Yeah, I'm surprised too that I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna see what happens as we go and

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<v Speaker 2>transfer to the EV's more and more. California is certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the United States central location for EV's by a long shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to We got to figure something else because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to work. Kf I am six forty

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