Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?
Speaker 2: Howdy, folks, your host double J back here, host of
Speaker 2: Operation g c D and uh, perhaps more notably not
Speaker 2: the vice president. Of course, we are also welcomed in
Speaker 2: the introduction by my old stocker buffalo Jared revisa multi
Speaker 2: state homicidal maniac and probably mind control killer. Ye, welcome
Speaker 2: to co host here tonight, Nick Riding stir rest of
Speaker 2: your cult rejects.
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, of course I was a forward to the
Speaker 3: show doing very well, sir.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I apologize to the folks of the interwebs here
Speaker 2: on our delays because we were expecting another guest this evening.
Speaker 2: We're respecting a guest this evening and sadly did not
Speaker 2: did not happen. But we have a special co Hosteon
Speaker 2: hosted the Unwilthy Rise podcast and fellow occult reject. Welcome Heidi.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Glad we get a chat. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: even though we're minus what's that? Even though we're minus one,
Speaker 1: we'll still make it fun.
Speaker 2: I would say, I'm looking forward to getting into some
Speaker 2: of those subjects. I think we're going to do a
Speaker 2: detour from our guest subjects tonight. But before we get
Speaker 2: started off, Nick, do you have any thing you're working
Speaker 2: on over there at the Occult Rejects and even basicing
Speaker 2: on a couple of projects.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for myself that I'm working on which will
Speaker 3: be probably coming out like I don't a month, and
Speaker 3: I have a Jacob Boem I'm doing a solo show
Speaker 3: on that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But see, he was like a cult.
Speaker 3: Fifteen hundred, fifteen sixty, fifteen hundreds. He's an older one.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. I mean, I wouldn't say he wasn't
Speaker 3: somebody who was originally supposedly into the occult. It was
Speaker 3: more or less that he had some like mystical experience
Speaker 3: that like blew his mind and that's what kind of
Speaker 3: brought him into the occult. So it's, uh, it's it's
Speaker 3: kind of like seeing I guess, like the non magician
Speaker 3: at for you know, a regular person who happened to
Speaker 3: have an experience that got into the stuff different.
Speaker 2: So he wasn't a part of any magical or her medical.
Speaker 3: There are there are some theories that I, you know,
Speaker 3: put in there for myself. I don't want to spoil it,
Speaker 3: that I did wonder if maybe he was because there's
Speaker 3: some identical things with other orders at the time. But
Speaker 3: you know, but uh, I don't know with him too,
Speaker 3: extremely extremely Bible based as well. He's very big into
Speaker 3: like Genesis too. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, So it's it's
Speaker 3: just another interesting character that he inspired a lot of
Speaker 3: other occults that came after him that inspired like major
Speaker 3: uh he did also inspire like Marsilio Ficino, I covered him.
Speaker 3: I think Anthonysius Kircher. Possibly. There's a couple of people
Speaker 3: that I know that I haven't. Oh, Rudolf, he definitely,
Speaker 3: Helena Blovotski.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was that I cut out over
Speaker 2: here what we were saying.
Speaker 3: He's inspired Rudolph Plovotsky. A whole bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Said, Madam Bovotsky, So who's Rudolph.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Rudolph, I'm sorry, Rudolf Steiner and Madam Blovotski.
Speaker 2: Oh, there we go. I was gonna say, do they
Speaker 2: have a kid they combined have a kid?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: Maybe he did? Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: That sounds like oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It will definitely be definitely all It's gonna be layered
Speaker 3: with tons of visuals too. I highly suggest to watch it.
Speaker 3: I probably created about over two hundred images for this
Speaker 3: fucking show, so please watch it. Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 3: And then next week, just real quick to throw that
Speaker 3: out there, we got a cult architect, Rudolf stein Up
Speaker 3: part two dropping, and Friday we do have the Mound
Speaker 3: Builders with Gregory Little finally dropping on my end that
Speaker 3: is coming out. And then after that, the week after that,
Speaker 3: I got the first solo of the shows I'm starting doing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start doing. I got Robert Flood alchemist and physician.
Speaker 3: Definitely check that out when it drops. And that's a
Speaker 3: full like four k old visuals too. I highly suggest
Speaker 3: to check that out.
Speaker 1: Love it, Yes, thank.
Speaker 2: You, that's awesome. Yeah, that's good to hear. It's definitely
Speaker 2: look forward to listen to more of that a cult
Speaker 2: series because that that character, if he's influential on Steiner
Speaker 2: and Bovotski. I mean, that's all these ancient alien cargo
Speaker 2: cults kind of yield from their those ideas and theologies.
Speaker 3: Interesting, he doesn't talk about aliens, so it's like, where
Speaker 3: the fuck did they pull that out of the restaurant? Yeah,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 2: Nice. Well, I I appreciate you joining us at your game,
Speaker 2: ma'am as our now our co host slash guest on Fridays.
Speaker 2: You're dual hated this evening.
Speaker 1: Now I'm excited about it. Heck yeah, I've been going
Speaker 1: down the Gemstone Files, mister Onnassas Opal Files. I've gone
Speaker 1: crazy on that thing, and my brain's all over the
Speaker 1: nice Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a lot of this stuff we've been covering
Speaker 2: on the Mormon Mafia series on the Occult Rejects, right, yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting ready to drop that one on the
Speaker 1: Occult Rejects pretty soon. It's going to be probably about
Speaker 1: a week and a half and it'll be ready with Onassis.
Speaker 1: So daughter died in the bathtub at thirty seven from
Speaker 1: diet pills. Sure she did.
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, that's another rule right with TICLT type situation.
Speaker 1: Yep, I saw the bathtub. I went, yeah, Okay, I've.
Speaker 2: Definitely learned a number despite my knowledge and interest in
Speaker 2: Mormon business and Mormon history and parapolitics related to then
Speaker 2: my I've certainly learned a number of things there from
Speaker 2: from joining in and providing commentary on your series. There
Speaker 2: already so some great stuff. I highly recommend folks to
Speaker 2: check out, especially when I discovered these connection include and
Speaker 2: more jack up you know, uh Jackie Kennedy right, yes,
Speaker 2: back to childhood.
Speaker 1: Uncle uncle George.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, born born to a hereditary member of
Speaker 2: the French chapter of the Society, Right, Society of the Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely was, and I was shocked at that.
Speaker 1: Like you, once you opened up the Society of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: stuff on me, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is
Speaker 1: a whole other level. Never stop, never stops.
Speaker 2: No, It's awesome because I definitely appreciate you bringing the
Speaker 2: boo Via guy to my attention because I've recently been
Speaker 2: real deep and trying to understand the French chapter. So
Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't looking at him and I had
Speaker 2: no knowledge of that, but I was already in the
Speaker 2: midst of looking at, you know, all of his friends.
Speaker 2: So it was perfect timing.
Speaker 1: Sounds good, sounds good. Are you doing something on that one.
Speaker 2: It's gotten to the point where the society Heidi with,
Speaker 2: especially with these French families, if it's a it's almost
Speaker 2: if there's a French surname, it's commonplace, like it's new
Speaker 2: in American history or culture. Is you know, a household
Speaker 2: name of some regard and then they're a member of
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati be at the Bouvier's, the Bonapartes,
Speaker 2: the DuPonts. I recently discovered Nola Booths like shil Lah Booth.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's a member, but there's
Speaker 2: little boof membership in the French chapter of the Society,
Speaker 2: you know, largely focused around New Orleans and around the
Speaker 2: more of eighteen twelve was when they all were coming
Speaker 2: over here, you know, proceeding that and during that including
Speaker 2: is which relative ken folk of the new Pope, the
Speaker 2: new American Pope?
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean a pope from Chicago, I.
Speaker 2: Mean yeah with French Protestant. Yeah yeah, how's that happen?
Speaker 2: How's how's a French Protestant pope from Chicago get get
Speaker 2: get appointed in Rome? But we'll see how that works out.
Speaker 2: But now I definitely definitely appreciate looking you know, the
Speaker 2: things you brought up with the Mormon stuff in the
Speaker 2: Society of Cincinnati stuff, that's awesome. I'll just iud recommend
Speaker 2: folks check that out.
Speaker 1: That series, Thank you, thank you. It'll be on the
Speaker 1: occult Rejects. It'll be coming up soon.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, and we're doing another part right when we're
Speaker 2: going to do another another part in the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that'll be the on NASA as soon as
Speaker 1: as soon as he's been waiting on my all my research.
Speaker 1: I think I'm on my fourth book. I think at
Speaker 1: this point I'm on NASA stout. I'm ready to write it.
Speaker 1: But he's fascinating, honestly, So.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, anything anything else you're working on the NFL
Speaker 2: podcast that you'd like to let folks know about here?
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, Yes, Robbie Marx has been on. We're doing
Speaker 1: Solomon's Temple series and I am doing the third installment
Speaker 1: of that next week on recording and it will be
Speaker 1: coming up soon. So yeah, awesome Mormon interjection of the
Speaker 1: Solomon's Temple. There, he's let me interfere with his research
Speaker 1: in CORALI many things. Yeah, on accident, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be listening, and then I just you know.
Speaker 3: I love seeing Robbie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed Robbie's inside. He's got some unique insight
Speaker 2: and a lot of topics.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. The Occult reject series that he did with
Speaker 1: Nick is why I asked him, because I said that
Speaker 1: was freaking amazing. I just can't. I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: to hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a serious He brings a lot of research
Speaker 3: when he does cover a topic, like he has like
Speaker 3: pages and page and some pages. Books.
Speaker 1: He had books. Yeah, it was like full books. His writing.
Speaker 3: He's writing one now that's almost done. And I think
Speaker 3: he said when he does, he's going to come on
Speaker 3: the show and promote it. I think you said he
Speaker 3: was going to give like a chapter to the website
Speaker 3: that's like a sample people to check.
Speaker 1: That's going to be awesome. Hell yeah, nice.
Speaker 2: I look forward to that. And then we're doing joining
Speaker 2: you and Tim from sixth Century Podcast here next to
Speaker 2: Believe next week talking to Mormon Mormon in society of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati business.
Speaker 1: Yes, and for that one weird Mormon lay lines. Yes,
Speaker 1: Tim's great.
Speaker 2: Shout out yeah Mormon lay lines. Yeah. No, Tim's I
Speaker 2: like Tim. He's a sharp to We had him on
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Folks to check out that show
Speaker 2: here on Fridays. Myself, Nick and Uh and Tim from
Speaker 2: the sixth Century Podcast. Don't be looking forward to that
Speaker 2: one for sure. And I don't know what I'm working
Speaker 2: on Operation GCD. Let me think about that for a second.
Speaker 2: I forgot I knew something was going on. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: I got a doing Occult and Arresto cheric review with
Speaker 2: the on back to the future, Nick Jan and the
Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach.
Speaker 1: Like Biff, like hiram Abiff you're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot of Masonic symbolism in that,
Speaker 2: for sure, isn't there. You're You're certainly welcome to join
Speaker 2: us if you if you'd like to be available on
Speaker 2: Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time.
Speaker 1: Awesome, I check out.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably a little more knowledgable and the
Speaker 2: Masonic stuff than I am, but I am familiar with
Speaker 2: some of that Masonic symbolism in there.
Speaker 1: Awesome this coming Wednesday, Yeah, yes, mallam okay, I'll look
Speaker 1: at it when I get off of here. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: Watch it then I'm starting.
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, Nick was, I'm going to watch it
Speaker 3: again over the weekend and take more notes. I'm like
Speaker 3: excited to cover excuse to keep watching it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't watched Yeah, that's my that's my
Speaker 2: plan for tomorrow is to watch it sometime tomorrow, but yeah,
Speaker 2: probably watch it twice for the for the show. I've
Speaker 2: seen it hundreds of seen it hundreds of times and really,
Speaker 2: you know, it's still still I still enjoy the film. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, the it's an exciting storyline, it's well written.
Speaker 2: I think it is the the esoteric nature of these
Speaker 2: these characters and the plot it is so compelling. So
Speaker 2: that's one of the well things I think that has
Speaker 2: made it so successful.
Speaker 1: Right time time travel. Anytime you make time travel with
Speaker 1: He's going to sleep with his mom. Yeah, it's a cultic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's real pre Well that's what that's the
Speaker 2: part I don't like about when you when you start
Speaker 2: considering these things as an adult, it gets real creepy
Speaker 2: with all this incest and kind of business.
Speaker 3: Well, the last time when I watched it, I was
Speaker 3: just like, and I think I said this before, and
Speaker 3: you know I won't be so I guess dressed like
Speaker 3: about the way I said it, but like I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is like a little freaky, like the mother was
Speaker 3: like a little forward there. I was like, this is
Speaker 3: it was just like.
Speaker 2: And I'm just I believe the proper nomenclature for that
Speaker 2: area era of time is whoor and like I I.
Speaker 3: Guess, like in the movie, you know you're gonna make
Speaker 3: it seem however, but like if that was real life,
Speaker 3: I still don't think like I would have given her
Speaker 3: like as much leeway as he was given. I would
Speaker 3: have been like, Yo, get the fuck out of you
Speaker 3: your nuts, like I would. I wouldn't be like having
Speaker 3: a conversation with the like this. You know, it was
Speaker 3: just very weird and creepy. When you're looking at it,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is just yeah, that's his mother.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, man, I totally agree. It's a it's again,
Speaker 2: it's it's a. I like the film on its face
Speaker 2: when it's got dark undertones, and especially if you listen
Speaker 2: to Crispin Glover, the actor that played Marty mcfi's dad,
Speaker 2: who only on the first film because they fired him
Speaker 2: after the first one, but he wrote a seventeen page
Speaker 2: manifesto blasting the production executives, et cetera on I'm doing
Speaker 2: a bunch of kid did on that set, so lots
Speaker 2: be a lot of dark stuff apparently there Cordon old
Speaker 2: Christpin Glover, Yeah, folks check that out on Onesday Operate
Speaker 2: GCD Live this Sunday, but the following Sunday, on the
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, I'll be starting Operation GCD Live Sundays at
Speaker 2: a pm Eastern time on Patreon. So I'll have a
Speaker 2: link in the show notes for that in am link tree,
Speaker 2: so in my social media. So I'm gonna be doing
Speaker 2: a lot of true crime and high weirdness events and
Speaker 2: incidents that I've encountered in my adventures, not the least
Speaker 2: of which is Robert the Doll, which I believe you
Speaker 2: all were talking about there night on Headless's mail Bag
Speaker 2: of Saul. Yes, yes, so that's always a that's always
Speaker 2: a fun tale. No, so, yeah, definitely check that's stuff out.
Speaker 2: But we, uh, we had a few topics on on
Speaker 2: on deck for tonight, but obviously without the guests, where
Speaker 2: we were going to take a detour and uh, I
Speaker 2: know you just published the episode recently, right, the Occult
Speaker 2: Elvis Night.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that was probably two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, that was a good that was I mean,
Speaker 2: that was a really I enjoyed the conversation. I mean,
Speaker 2: Miguel Connor seems like a real nice there. He's done
Speaker 2: some good research there into the uh, the occult interests
Speaker 2: of Elvis Presley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was more than I knew, So,
Speaker 3: I mean it definitely was. Yeah. I thought it was
Speaker 3: interesting as well. He's working on David Bowie no too.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. That's gonna be a good
Speaker 1: one because he's so outward about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but definitely with that Elvis stuff. Uh. I
Speaker 3: mean again, like listen, I mean I get, you know,
Speaker 3: people look at things differently. I still be entertained to
Speaker 3: cover Elvis, so just in a different one like than
Speaker 3: Miguel did. Yeah. I think it was you know, highly
Speaker 3: suspective you know, other things, yeah there or other agencies.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Yeah that sounds about right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it was just like now, just like
Speaker 3: knowing how much of occultism that was involved with that
Speaker 3: guy and how open he kind of was to an
Speaker 3: extent totally just makes things so much different now with
Speaker 3: that dude, my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it's hard to say if he was
Speaker 1: like real or like you said, if he's putting on
Speaker 1: a show for a cover up for certain you know things,
Speaker 1: who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or is he just you know they are like uh,
Speaker 3: you know, to influence people through the music. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's quite obvious he was able to.
Speaker 1: So, oh for sure, definitely definitely.
Speaker 2: I'm breaking up here, but were you saying, Nick, that
Speaker 2: that Elvis was deeper into intelligence? Sagancies that what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that, Yeah, that's just my and I
Speaker 3: think he was into something with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those things.
Speaker 2: I think he's in deep, dude, he's in the all.
Speaker 2: He was a bad He was a badge junkie. So
Speaker 2: you want to hold badges everywhere, right, So when I
Speaker 2: when I brought that up to Miguil, I wasn't expecting
Speaker 2: to get a lot of pushback because to me, it
Speaker 2: seems like intel, you know, spook activity goes hand in
Speaker 2: hand with occultism. From John Dita, I was just going
Speaker 2: to early to you know.
Speaker 3: To Elvis, right the loves occultists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, and then look at major CIA operations officer, you know,
Speaker 2: Miles Copeland, he was a scientologist. He even goes the
Speaker 2: sun started MTV.
Speaker 1: Even going back to uh, Charles Charles Brace who started
Speaker 1: the Orphan Trains, you know, Charles Loring Brace. Uh. I
Speaker 1: got some pushback from somebody on a recent show, and
Speaker 1: they said he wasn't in he wasn't a freemason, he
Speaker 1: was this and this, And I said, no, I'm gonna look.
Speaker 1: I know he was in something not not a freemason,
Speaker 1: in an occultic secret order that he wouldn't even let
Speaker 1: out what it was, period dot. And he was a spy.
Speaker 1: But don't look at that, they said, goes clear back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I apologizes to keep cutting out here, I missed
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 1: Idi Oh shoot, I was talking about Charles Loring Brace
Speaker 1: that started the Orphan Trains. He was a spy and
Speaker 1: so going back to what you guys said, they love occultist,
Speaker 1: he was in a secret society and right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think it goes hand in hand. I mean again, I
Speaker 2: think it's uh, it's not two things that over time
Speaker 2: that you know, evolved separately. There was over time these
Speaker 2: were you know, if you were, you know, into doing
Speaker 2: spook stuff, you're also in the cult stuff, you know.
Speaker 2: I think the spycraft is very much a magic show
Speaker 2: of sorts.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Absolutely, it's good.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, in a general sense, it's convincing somebody
Speaker 2: else of some of the reality is different than what they're.
Speaker 1: Viewing, right, always, always whatever they want you to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was shocking to me to learn, you know,
Speaker 2: when Elvis as much as I know about my Kennfolk
Speaker 2: old Charles Manson, you know, we're both the Maynards from Blakeville, Kentucky,
Speaker 2: Old Chuck and I the you know, I've been interested
Speaker 2: in this dude for a very long time and reading
Speaker 2: books about him for over a decade plus, and I
Speaker 2: had no idea he was so connected to Elvis Presley
Speaker 2: until Miguil McGill connor had had brought that up.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know that either. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, it was a new revelation. So I
Speaker 2: look further into that, right, I mean, that's good. Good
Speaker 2: for mcgil for bringing that to our attention, because that's
Speaker 2: some good stuff. But look further into it. He's he
Speaker 2: was really indeed with the Manson family. So Elvis is
Speaker 2: Elvis's spiritual guide was Jay C. Brings, business partner and
Speaker 2: fellow hairdresser, and they all knew Elvis on the first name.
Speaker 2: Him and Seabring knew each other the first name, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And he knew Sharon Tate because
Speaker 2: Sharon Tate. When Elvis goes before Tate married Plansky. She
Speaker 2: was engaged to Seabring. It was it was all cocaine.
Speaker 2: Bob had swooped in and said, hey, why don't you
Speaker 2: come marry this new Polish director that we have. You
Speaker 2: know that I just hired at Paramount, right, and that
Speaker 2: Polish director Polanski is now thanks to folks like Dana Dude,
Speaker 2: Oliver Rodding Jewels pointing out all the spook connections. That's
Speaker 2: old Roman Polanski has an origin story of. So you know,
Speaker 2: it was, uh, you know, I think it's interesting again.
Speaker 2: It's this episode of spook, spook activity and occultism. It's
Speaker 2: I find really intriguing again around the Manson situation. So
Speaker 2: when Miguel claimed that there was rumor that Elvis had
Speaker 2: had gone to the murder home a couple of days,
Speaker 2: you know, in the aftermath of the murders, I was like,
Speaker 2: that sounds a while. But when you see that his
Speaker 2: best friend, spiritual advisor, this dude that would travel with
Speaker 2: him was also formerly J. S. Brings business partner in
Speaker 2: that hair slan and obviously presumably but by that means
Speaker 2: a fellow drug trafficker in that hair slan, right, because
Speaker 2: that's what Sea Bring was doing. Seabring was a scientologist
Speaker 2: as well, amongst others. I'm sure of cult groups he
Speaker 2: was engaged in. But nonetheless, it seems like Elvis is
Speaker 2: far more connected to the situation. And I brought up
Speaker 2: the issue of scientology with mcguil and I, you know,
Speaker 2: as much as I respect a man's work there, I
Speaker 2: would have to disagree with him. I think I did
Speaker 2: in the show as well, that it seems like Elvis
Speaker 2: has got a lot more scientology stuff going on there,
Speaker 2: because I think he claimed that it was not the case,
Speaker 2: and I'd have to look back in there further. But
Speaker 2: as far as Elvis is scientology roots, it seemed like
Speaker 2: to me in the past that Priscilla started that when
Speaker 2: she was with him, and he was kind of into
Speaker 2: it at first, but then he had his outs with it.
Speaker 2: That's the way I perceived it, so well. I agree
Speaker 2: with him he did a I think I was Miguel's conclusion.
Speaker 2: He had his outs with him with scientology and wasn't
Speaker 2: a fan. I agree with that aspect, but not at first.
Speaker 2: It seemed like he was into it, and Priscilla was
Speaker 2: seemingly the one that brought him into it, you know,
Speaker 2: so I thought that was interesting when he brought up
Speaker 2: that Priscilla was going to mainly be Hall lectures, right yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, who's to say that's even true. No, I'm saying
Speaker 3: like maybe he was going himself. I mean, who knows,
Speaker 3: Like and you're just oh, yes, she went. I don't know,
Speaker 3: just I can't see why. I mean, maybe times were
Speaker 3: different than she was scared. But you're gonna fucking go
Speaker 3: to that and take notes for motherfucker, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, I could see where it would be kind
Speaker 2: of a ship show to try to go out in
Speaker 2: public because Elvis Presley, especially in the sixties there. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, I feel like that doesn't it's
Speaker 2: not it's not mutually exclusive, right, I mean, Priscilla may
Speaker 2: have very well been interested in.
Speaker 3: This stuff as well. That was intelligence She wanted to
Speaker 3: go too, what's that? That's what I'm saying too, Like
Speaker 3: she wanted to go. It wasn't just like, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure she's If she's a lifelong scientologist, I can't
Speaker 2: imagine she's going to not enjoy the manly p hall lecture, right, well.
Speaker 1: Especially for Elvis, but you would fly there you would
Speaker 1: think manly p Hall would just go there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, right for sure?
Speaker 2: Now that's totally, that's totally that's what I'm taking it.
Speaker 2: You know, if he wanted to get a mainly P
Speaker 2: Hall exture, you can get mainly P Hall and Graceland.
Speaker 1: I'm sure for sure, I mean definitely. And then you
Speaker 1: know maybe he was there with Sir Hanser.
Speaker 2: Well that's what Sorry, No, you're you're you're spot on target.
Speaker 2: That's where my head's at right now. So that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying here. So then you look at who is
Speaker 2: mainly p Hall. What else does he involved in the time?
Speaker 2: You know, connected to Sir Hand, Sir handle, double sir
Speaker 2: hand there, so double sir hands connected to the same people.
Speaker 2: According to a nineteen seventy four i S report, he
Speaker 2: was reported to attended numerous sexment magic rituals at the
Speaker 2: Tate Polanski him and May of nineteen sixty eight, hosted
Speaker 2: by quote unquote English satanic cult.
Speaker 1: That's the process. So weird, Yeah, so weird.
Speaker 2: Double Sir Han's doing process stuff with the tay Planski's.
Speaker 2: He's mixed up with mainly P Hall. That's what makes
Speaker 2: me really consider that the notes of Ed Sanders from
Speaker 2: from the nineteen seventies and eighties when he's doing the
Speaker 2: appear to be doing the bulk of this investigation was
Speaker 2: claiming that mainly p Hall was deep involved in this
Speaker 2: network of process and for Pie activities and man in
Speaker 2: factur the Grand Shinguon Sir Sir Han.
Speaker 1: Was registered as a rosen creute too. They put that
Speaker 1: on there in the investigation. So it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about smaller circles back then. You know,
Speaker 1: It's it's not like it was everywhere, so they would
Speaker 1: all know each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it just it seems like a
Speaker 2: small circle of folks. So they definitely knew each other there, right,
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I think so. And especially if you could get in
Speaker 1: with someone famous, like if you were really trying to
Speaker 1: like MK Ultra, someone you definitely like could use that,
Speaker 1: Like don't you want to go to this meeting? Elvis
Speaker 1: is going to be there? What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, that's science, that's why sciences. L Ron Hubbard
Speaker 2: wrote a memo for that purpose, right, saying we're going
Speaker 2: to target celebrities. I think I think the process did
Speaker 2: the same with the recruitment of the Beatles, the Rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: Et cetera. Absolutely, boys, the.
Speaker 2: Mama's in the papas do he wasn't know?
Speaker 1: He was, yeahh my gosh. And uh was the other
Speaker 1: one that the girl became the Dixie Chicks her dad
Speaker 1: they involved in that?
Speaker 2: Or is that the mama's Yeah, mama's in the papas.
Speaker 2: But I say, you're bringing the Dixie Chicks in there.
Speaker 2: I like it, but I'm not familiar with that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: So John Phillips was financing a cord at the I
Speaker 2: and S report as well. John Phillips was financing processed
Speaker 2: church activities there in the late sixties in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: and his which is interesting because again Mama Cass was,
Speaker 2: you know, alleged to be a member of also by
Speaker 2: Saying and Hers and accordingly by the l A Prosecutor's office,
Speaker 2: she was on a list of witnesses for the prosecution.
Speaker 2: She wasn't recalled, but she was on a list of
Speaker 2: witnesses for the prosecution in that in that trial. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: Wilson Phillips about I say, then you got the combination
Speaker 2: of the processing Beach boys in the processing mamas and
Speaker 2: the papas with the Wilson Phillips right, mmmmh And that
Speaker 2: the Phillips connect directly to George Hodell. So the George
Speaker 2: Hodell his daughter apparently in the hand some incestual stuff
Speaker 2: going on. And apparently so did John Phillips with his
Speaker 2: eldest daughter. She would leave, she would leave the house,
Speaker 2: living with her father and apparently going to live with
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Phillips. George Hodell's Tomorrow Phillips George Hodell's uh, Tomorrow Hodell.
Speaker 2: There we go. George Hodell's daughter. George Hodell's alleged to
Speaker 2: be the the Black Dalla killer killer. Amongst other things.
Speaker 2: He was a celebrity abortion doctor to the stars. I
Speaker 2: recently learned that Bob Cocaine Evans apparently lived in the
Speaker 2: same home Assent at one point in time, you know,
Speaker 2: a later date obviously. But there's a famous Frank Lloyd
Speaker 2: right home. It's the Mayan Temple Home. I think that's
Speaker 2: what they call it. Oh, and I guess after you know,
Speaker 2: George Hodell again, he was He was friends with like
Speaker 2: John Barrymore, John Carrodine, John Houston, you know the Johns.
Speaker 2: This is the old Hollywood Laurel canyon scene. This, These
Speaker 2: are the the people that would mentor folks like Jack Nicholson, right,
Speaker 2: you know. And again yeah, Jackie, that was John Houston's.
Speaker 2: That was John Houston's underling, right, that was his protege
Speaker 2: that epicenter. And then you see Bob Cocaine Evans there
Speaker 2: again again another one of Jack's close associates.
Speaker 1: Right, p f fs. Well he was there when the
Speaker 1: when the big R word went down, right, he was
Speaker 1: there in the jacuzzie.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well, I don't think he was there. Was
Speaker 2: at his house though, was at his house. I think
Speaker 2: Cocaine Bob. I don't know if Cocaine Bob was there
Speaker 2: showed up that I've I've read numerous accounts. I always
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to wear cocaine. Bob's other friend and
Speaker 2: Jack's other friend, Marlon Brando, was because Brando shared a
Speaker 2: driveway with Jack, the same gated driveway. You just came
Speaker 2: in the same drive went one way and then the
Speaker 2: other way right off of Mouholland. Jack would later buy
Speaker 2: up Marlin's house and tear down because like five people
Speaker 2: got murdered in there.
Speaker 1: Four people got murdered in there. You didn't want no evidence,
Speaker 1: want to get rid of all of it. Right, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Yeah, are you all familiar with this house?
Speaker 1: The in his house, it's the.
Speaker 2: Mayan temple home there in the Frank Lloyd right. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's an interesting structures one second police. Yeah, the veritable
Speaker 2: Hollywood icon, with over eighty screen appearances and films, is
Speaker 2: the last and largest of rights for Los Angeles area
Speaker 2: textile blockhouses. It's like a Mayan temple looking place, right, Wow,
Speaker 2: you gonna get some better pictures over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So George Hodell lived in this at one point in time,
Speaker 2: and then apparently Bob Cocaine Evans.
Speaker 1: Resided in here at a different point in time.
Speaker 2: Weird, right, man?
Speaker 1: I would really live Yeah, I wouldn't want to live
Speaker 1: in a house where blood paved the everything, you know,
Speaker 1: like a replication of that.
Speaker 2: Sorry to say, That's what I'm saying, though, HAIDI have
Speaker 2: you got folks who are seemingly engaged in these rituals,
Speaker 2: and I would assert ritual human sacrifice when you're talking
Speaker 2: about the Black Dollar murder and whatnot, Especially then these
Speaker 2: folks live in what is a mind temple house? I mean,
Speaker 2: was there an altar in the middle of this place.
Speaker 2: What's going on here?
Speaker 1: And that four year old kid that died? I can't
Speaker 1: remember who this was. It was super famous, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? And it was a movie famous
Speaker 1: and he was, oh man, why can't I remember that
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: But it was like a sadly there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of children that have died, Heidi, I mean, yeah, come
Speaker 2: to mind. I was about to name off like three
Speaker 2: or four, but what air are we talking about here?
Speaker 1: In oh same era and they had a big sex
Speaker 1: party and it was weirdo and it was like satanic.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I think maybe and the dead they kept him in
Speaker 1: a box and tortured the damn kid. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know this story. What have to find it? Business, Yeah, smoker,
Speaker 1: I'll find this.
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about the instance of Virginia rape.
Speaker 1: Who's the who was? It was super famous in the
Speaker 1: Hollywood scene and they were just like oops, and then
Speaker 1: they went and partied and left the kid dead. Is
Speaker 1: that the same story?
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about Vita Vita Polikus, Yes, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So that was December thirty first, nineteen sixty three. Right now,
Speaker 2: he was starting that that baby was set to the
Speaker 2: star in Kenneth Anger's film Lucifer Rising. He would later
Speaker 2: be replacing that film by Bobobby Bosele, which is family
Speaker 2: right in prison today still for murder.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And they did, they went, they went out, and they
Speaker 2: went out for the night afterwards, right.
Speaker 1: They'd left him there and didn't Careen, didn't report anything
Speaker 1: and went and partied. And then later they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess we should do something about this. What are
Speaker 1: you talking about, you crazy people?
Speaker 2: Well, that was there so that he was kind of
Speaker 2: a proto Mansonite there. So his art his art gallery
Speaker 2: would be in Laurel Canyon and be used as the
Speaker 2: Birds and other band's studio practice studio space, so they
Speaker 2: would all hang out there. It was just the It
Speaker 2: was the epicenter of activity before Frank Zappa's lot cabin.
Speaker 2: It was the epicenter of activity there. In fact, his
Speaker 2: number two would later be would later be Frank Zappa's
Speaker 2: number two, well at least associated with with the mothers
Speaker 2: of invention in that Zappa crew after Policus leaves and
Speaker 2: as Captain fuck Carl Franzoni. He's strangely enough, fran Zoni's
Speaker 2: from Cincinnati. He was born in the same hospital as
Speaker 2: Charles Manson from Cincinnati, so I think it's three weeks apart,
Speaker 2: and then four years earlier, Doris Day was born in
Speaker 2: that same hospital in Cincinnati, and her son Terry Melcher
Speaker 2: plays heavily into the Mansons situation, right, He's the folks
Speaker 2: that was renting out that hound there before Tat and Polanski.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bosally is up to his eyes and all
Speaker 1: this so for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: But how weird is that that that a baby would
Speaker 2: be playing, you know, list for Rising and playing Satan
Speaker 2: and listen for Rising and then be replaced by Bobby
Speaker 2: Bose delay right, boyfriend of angers.
Speaker 1: Ostensibly so strange. I mean, wouldn't you love to be
Speaker 1: like this time frame in America is just absolutely fascinating
Speaker 1: if we could be a fly on the wall like
Speaker 1: the week WHOA, I think you'd be scared. I think
Speaker 1: I'd be scared. Oh yeah, for sure, m h terrifying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's uh, it's just very interesting that. So
Speaker 2: one other fun fact here about mister Vida pelicis here Heidi,
Speaker 2: and I think I learned this from from weird scenes
Speaker 2: inside the Canyon was he's a roths child or was
Speaker 2: married to a roll.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that one. Yeah, I just got I
Speaker 1: just went Kenneth Anger thing once because I did a
Speaker 1: show with somebody and I was like trying to prep
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, this is disgusting. But
Speaker 1: with Kenneth Anger, Yeah, we did an anger at this Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh it was I was just trying to learn
Speaker 1: and I didn't know all this stuff that connected like
Speaker 1: weirdly enough.
Speaker 2: So bad, you know, you know, where he'd hang out
Speaker 2: in recent years before he died, he'd frequently be seen
Speaker 2: I never seen him there, but he'd frequently be seen
Speaker 2: at the reportedly least at the uh mainly p Hall
Speaker 2: Center there in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Much are you serious? But also I want to say,
Speaker 1: shout out Amy Lane. She's the one that did that episode,
Speaker 1: so she's great. I like to give credit where credit
Speaker 1: is due.
Speaker 2: So not only through the Phillips and other processing angles,
Speaker 2: is there connections from the Hotel Mayan Temple home to
Speaker 2: you know, from the you know, the thirties and the
Speaker 2: forties in Hollywood essentially into the fifties, right to the
Speaker 2: later sixties and seventies into the eighties, Hollywood through the
Speaker 2: you know, against the Phillips and whatnot. Again, it seems
Speaker 2: like there's more to that since apparently Cocaine Bob resided
Speaker 2: in this home during that period for a period of time.
Speaker 2: So that's uh all more following that. I'm sure. I
Speaker 2: just learned that the other day. So that was Brandon
Speaker 2: information for me.
Speaker 1: That's all but one big ring, like I mean literally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for decades right, wow, Again, Jackson was very much
Speaker 2: Fatty right jack Jack Nicholson was very much a part
Speaker 2: of that group because again his mentor was John Houston, Right,
Speaker 2: So it's you know, I can envision all those guys
Speaker 2: hanging out in that home together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: What they mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, improper sigil magic creating all kinds of demons
Speaker 1: on ears. Don't talk to him, JJ, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, are you all from there with the legend of
Speaker 2: Fatty Arbuckle? I do not know this, Nick.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: So this is a this is an old school Hollywood
Speaker 2: rape case. This is the nineteen twenties, I think in
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty twenty two. This is apparently a sex magic
Speaker 2: ritual in the nineteen twenties in Hollywood were involved. This
Speaker 2: actress named Virginia rap pai, So it's Virginia, it's common spelling.
Speaker 2: And then a rape but with two p's rapai.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 2: Right, was the rape? She was the rape victim in
Speaker 2: the matter, right, so. Roscoe Conkling Fatty Arbuckle was a
Speaker 2: America silent film actor, director, and screenwriter.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: He was also mentored Charlie Chaplin, money Banks and Bob Hope.
Speaker 2: Some dark stuff around.
Speaker 1: That guy, right, Charlie Chaplin, Mormon, Marmon murder Right.
Speaker 2: Arbuckle was one of the most popular silence stars in
Speaker 2: nineteen tens and was one of the highest paid actors
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, signing a contract in nineteen twenty with Paramount
Speaker 2: Pictures for one million dollars.
Speaker 3: Back then.
Speaker 1: And then he raped this lady.
Speaker 2: So apparently this was a ritual and you know, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stories about this incident, but as Wikipedia,
Speaker 2: the source of all information on the interwebs, will tell us,
Speaker 2: Arbuckle was the defendant in three widely publicized trials between
Speaker 2: November twenty first and April November nineteen twenty one. In
Speaker 2: April nineteen twenty two, for the rape and manslaughter of
Speaker 2: actress Virginia rape Rapey had fallen ill at a party
Speaker 2: hosted by Arbuckle at San Francisco's Saint Francis Hotel in
Speaker 2: September twenty one and died four days later. Well that's
Speaker 2: one way to say it. Supposedly it was pretty gruesome
Speaker 2: and ritualistic. So yeah, right, so that was before the
Speaker 2: mind stuff we were just talking about. That's even before that, right.
Speaker 1: Wow. Any royal connections there or Cincinnati connects on Old Fatty, That's.
Speaker 2: A great question, right. He seems like he comes from
Speaker 2: that heritage, right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Looks he looks a little inbred or something with.
Speaker 2: A name like Conklin. I'm just saying I'll have to
Speaker 2: get back to on that. It is interesting though, because
Speaker 2: another famous Hollywood star of his era is certainly got
Speaker 2: some Cincinnati heritage, and that's the cowboys Tom Mix. You
Speaker 2: familiar with him, No, he was the He was John
Speaker 2: Wayne's mentor in Hollywood, and he also was like the
Speaker 2: first boy in Hollywood. The guy who taught him to
Speaker 2: be a cowboy on screen was wider.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Tom Mix is u of Connecticut heritage, and you know,
Speaker 2: the traditional blue blood society heritage you find up there
Speaker 2: with those of those folks. I'm sure there's more, but
Speaker 2: I'll look back on this the Starbuckle guy, because it's
Speaker 2: been many years since I've looked at that case. But
Speaker 2: it was very bizarre, and this trial is we're very
Speaker 2: highly publicized.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: That's the one when you first started saying old Hollywood rape.
Speaker 2: So it was like, is that one Virginia Repay? Because
Speaker 2: isn't it weird that the victim in there is named
Speaker 2: virgin There's no way, right, virgin Ra Virginia Repay?
Speaker 1: What if that was a humiliation ritual, just like old
Speaker 1: Johnny D and his little poo queen? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is the name changed for the purposes of the ritual?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is? It? Is it told of the public
Speaker 1: for the purpose of the ritual? You know?
Speaker 2: Is this sees me something too?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Or is that whoever pulls this res in this universe?
Speaker 2: Are they a six son of a bitch and you're
Speaker 2: just gonna have some rape victim and ritual sacrifice named
Speaker 2: Virginia repe.
Speaker 1: That's bad, That's pretty bad. Yeah, Virgin Rate. I mean
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, right, Virgin Rate? By Fatty, that's just Fatty m.
Speaker 2: The name Fatty arm Vucals sounds made up.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it doesn't. None of it sounds real.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody told you that on the street and
Speaker 1: you're just like, hey, I got this conspiracy for you,
Speaker 1: would it just be like okay, right, well that's true.
Speaker 2: First first off, though, man, I would not stop walking
Speaker 2: if someone a person on the street like that. However,
Speaker 2: if Nick was approached by a person like that wearing
Speaker 2: a dress, looking like a linebacker riding a scooter, hespiracy theory.
Speaker 3: He's like you said, I was gonna quick answer. I
Speaker 3: did not know where I was gonna have to go
Speaker 3: to a calendar, whatever the fuck is going I was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, oh that's too fat.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I when I see names like Fatty Arbuckle
Speaker 2: and uh in Virginia wrappam my god. Someone broke the simulation,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, what is going on here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And if they didn't, they need to.
Speaker 2: That day, someone definitely broke the simulation with that transgendered
Speaker 2: linebacker hanging out in front of Common Pizza. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a glitch if I've ever seen one. Wherever that thing
Speaker 2: came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my husband also likes to speak to the
Speaker 1: people that are clearly broken. When we were in California.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he pulled off on the exit to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom in a wrong part of town, and
Speaker 1: he's like, what did that lady say to you? She
Speaker 1: was all confrontational with me, and I said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to her. I just kept walking. Why
Speaker 1: did you talk to her?
Speaker 4: He's like, I mean, it's roll the dice, roll the dice. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just keep walking, head down, walk by. Yes, good advice.
Speaker 2: So, looking further into this Elvis situation real quick, going
Speaker 2: back to this, you know, in the Elvis and the
Speaker 2: Manson stuff, there was actually a cartoon made see the
Speaker 2: whole series, uh, the Elvis Agent Elvis. So it even
Speaker 2: speaks of it being like he's a secret agent. It's
Speaker 2: made by Priscilla Presley. You know, it's got to number.
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. But in one of the episodes, they
Speaker 2: literally go kill the Manson family. That you know, that's
Speaker 2: the that is the Yeah, I'll play us a brief
Speaker 2: preview of that here, please see and buy. Tell you
Speaker 2: about I wanted to hang out with a bunch of
Speaker 2: shitbag hippies.
Speaker 1: I'd returned Dennis Hopper's folks.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. So Matthew McConaughey is apparently voicing Elvis
Speaker 2: there and uh he and this scene he mentions Dennis
Speaker 2: Hopper again. Hopper was deeply related into this whole process
Speaker 2: movement there too as well. He marries Michelle Phillips briefly there,
Speaker 2: you know from the mom was in the papas And
Speaker 2: again though you know Nicholson that he's part of that
Speaker 2: whole crew of actors.
Speaker 1: Right, m oh god, damn it. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: so much as angry as I am just play myself,
Speaker 1: he goes, Damn.
Speaker 2: I thought that far was great because he's, like I said,
Speaker 2: he's a badge collector. So that's at least got some
Speaker 2: humor to it.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, that's wild. Anything broken?
Speaker 2: Did y'all catch that? She immediately went to the ground.
Speaker 2: She's like, you grab some grab some meat. Okay, some
Speaker 2: of those seem awfully baked to keep in your paints,
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure the tempion. So they go on
Speaker 2: to mark the entire Manson family. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's historically accurate, but it's comical. It's weird too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 1: Especially helped me it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's part of it. She's part of the production. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she I think she even voices herself in there, and
Speaker 2: that was her bringing out the switchblade.
Speaker 1: There it was.
Speaker 2: It was kind of the last thing I expected to
Speaker 2: find even made. I mean, I completely meant, I don't
Speaker 2: have Netflix, but I completely missed this being even produced
Speaker 2: and when I discovered but after I looked into it
Speaker 2: after the The Cold Elvis Show with Miguel Connor there,
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 1: What in the world, this is wild? That's like the
Speaker 1: series follows the exploits. Oh, go ahead, random. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: just it's random. It's weird, super random, right.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, what in the world.
Speaker 2: And then I found that that that episode of this
Speaker 2: is super wild? You know, the series follows the exports
Speaker 2: of a fictionalized version. Thank you for pointing that out
Speaker 2: Wikipedia of American rock and roll legend Elvis Presley, voiced
Speaker 2: by Matthew McConaughey, who moonlights is a spy for the
Speaker 2: United States government. I don't think that's all that, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, inaccurate, right, Well.
Speaker 3: The stories could be fictional.
Speaker 2: Right, but well right, obviously I'm saying the fact that
Speaker 2: he was an undercover spy for the US.
Speaker 1: Got true.
Speaker 2: Oh so she looks like, uh, Priscilla Pressley created it
Speaker 2: looks like Kaylan Olsen is the voice of C. C. Rider.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who that is. Johnny Knoxville, the SpongeBob guy,
Speaker 2: Tom Kenney, Yeah, you Priscilla Pressley herself. Okay, so maybe
Speaker 2: that wasn't Priscilla Pressley. We saw on the clip that
Speaker 2: was C. C Ryder voiced by kayln Olsen from It's
Speaker 2: Always Sunny, Sweet d It was Fred Armison is Charles Manson.
Speaker 1: Weird, very strange, like super random and weird, Like what
Speaker 1: are they doing with that? Especially a cartoons? Right? And
Speaker 1: cartoons aren't aren't cheap, They're not.
Speaker 2: Seem to be a pretty good, pretty high dollar production.
Speaker 2: Looks like right, some cast members, you know, McConaughey can't
Speaker 2: be cheap.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm unless he's in it for a reason, unless
Speaker 1: he was cheap.
Speaker 2: Good point. That's a good point because I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's got any kind of scientology connections or roots.
Speaker 2: But I do find it interesting that this hitman that
Speaker 2: sits the epicenter of U, you know, hired professional assassins
Speaker 2: between the mob or these cult networks. Uh, Charles h
Speaker 2: Charles Harrelson, what do you?
Speaker 1: What are you?
Speaker 2: Harrelson's dad who was also Matthew McConaughey's dad, so you
Speaker 2: know they have the same dad. Yeah, I do not
Speaker 2: know that, Oh you were Oh yeah yeah. Even McConaughey's
Speaker 2: mom's like, yeah, yeah, I've known. I've always known that.
Speaker 2: So I wonder how long have they been this has
Speaker 2: been known between them right behind the scene, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, their own their own personal lives, right.
Speaker 1: That's got to be weird for them. And why is
Speaker 1: it always like that with the kids too, Like even
Speaker 1: like a Milio Estevez and Charlie Sheen, Like, uh, they
Speaker 1: don't publicize that, you know what I mean? Like that,
Speaker 1: it's weird. They do that all over Hollywood.
Speaker 2: They they just announced this one like publicly maybe a
Speaker 2: year and a half or so ago. Maybe a year ago.
Speaker 2: Then McConaughey and Haroldson started talking about this. But I
Speaker 2: read a read or watched an interview with McConaughey's mother
Speaker 2: and she she verified.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So this is supposed to be this is McConaughey's older brother.
Speaker 2: He has the same dad as well, apparently I believe that, Like, right,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. So even McConaughey's older brother, Rooster
Speaker 2: McConaughey's his name. He apparently their younger brother has a
Speaker 2: different dad, but him and his own or brother have
Speaker 2: the same dad. And that's supposedly.
Speaker 1: Wow, he looks just like him. They had to say something.
Speaker 1: People were going to say something, right, I think he
Speaker 1: looks more like what he than what his full brother does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does. Sometimes that'll happen too with I have a
Speaker 1: bunch of half siblings and whatnot, and my brother he
Speaker 1: looks more like me than his full sister. And I'm
Speaker 1: only half weird weird. Yeah, these people, they're all screwing
Speaker 1: everybody at these damn uh seances and whatnot, just like Jackie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say that he looks more like a Haralson
Speaker 2: than he does with Coony he this.
Speaker 1: Rooster fella, Holy crap, that's not Oh wow, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 2: But again, they're they have the same dad, so they
Speaker 2: all do. So you know, there's gonna be some similarities.
Speaker 1: I think it's just whoever lands on the person that's married,
Speaker 1: like you get to raise it as they do all
Speaker 1: this weird sex magic, you know what I mean, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you take the kid home, she's your wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's I mean, this dude's a hit man,
Speaker 2: you know, for years, you know, Charles Harrilson, I think
Speaker 2: was the only dude to ever MURCA sitting federal judge.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's ballsy, but he was. I think at
Speaker 2: the time he was doing that for the Chakra Brothers,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Chakra and brother. Down there, these Mexican trol cartel
Speaker 2: fellas out running run their stuff up through Texas across
Speaker 2: the border, and those fellas were running coke and I
Speaker 2: ran contrast. So I'd like to know where all these
Speaker 2: episoders really meet.
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, well never know, because they're running the product
Speaker 1: of the US.
Speaker 2: Government exactly exactly. I don't think Charles was at jfk
Speaker 2: Ass and I think he's just telling tales, but he's.
Speaker 1: Clearly in the set. Yeah, no, I get it, that's wild.
Speaker 2: You familiar with that, the murder I'm talking about of
Speaker 2: the sitting.
Speaker 1: Judge or no, oh no, sorry, I thought you were
Speaker 1: talking about JFK No. Not not the judge.
Speaker 2: No, I can't think of his name. It was the
Speaker 2: guy Charles Harrelson. He died in prison, john Wood, John Wood,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was the district court judge down there
Speaker 2: in Texas. Again, this is all you know, there's his
Speaker 2: drug the drug lords were under charges on stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: This guy was the judge I believe is how.
Speaker 2: It went down. But it was quite a shot, you know,
Speaker 2: as a train sniper myself, I will say this was
Speaker 2: quite a shot because he did it. I believe he
Speaker 2: did in the suburban area, you know, and from a distance.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, you're dealing with a lot of
Speaker 2: factors there, you know that you really can't plan for.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, Not onlaw is was it
Speaker 2: a good distance? What I'm saying, when you're shooting in
Speaker 2: an environment like that, there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You can't account for, so right, right, yeah, anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's just so many things when you're
Speaker 2: dealing you know, busy area like that, right, and you
Speaker 2: want to go on detected and everything else like that.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm gonna have to have you come back
Speaker 1: on with all this manson family business. This is great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to for sure. Yeah, this is anything with
Speaker 1: that era is so fascinating because it was just all
Speaker 1: out there and they didn't really care sounds at her
Speaker 1: house on Saturday, you know.
Speaker 2: It was the thing to do, right, Yeah, especially in
Speaker 2: southern California.
Speaker 1: So weird.
Speaker 2: Well, that's actually what I was talking about there to
Speaker 2: night with the epicenter of Marvel and DC Comics here
Speaker 2: this past Wednesday and on Operation GCD Live is al
Speaker 2: Ron Hubbard's literary agent and the leader of the Science
Speaker 2: Fiction Club. That's you know this dude before re Ackerman,
Speaker 2: he was the literary agent for basically every sci fi writer.
Speaker 2: And you can think of him, you know, the last
Speaker 2: one hundred years in America, you know, especially that that
Speaker 2: era at least one hundred you know, nearly one hundred
Speaker 2: years ago now, but is.
Speaker 1: When he started being a literary agent.
Speaker 2: But you know, he died just about fifteen or twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, and he was a major figure in Hollywood
Speaker 2: the entire time, and especially sci fi writing. And it
Speaker 2: seems to me that there's a lot to be said
Speaker 2: about the epicenter of these activities with a lot of
Speaker 2: these cults and then these ideas around those things right there.
Speaker 1: And that's just the ones on the surface. Who even
Speaker 1: knows so well? Right, right, and how many one of
Speaker 1: my government operations.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what that's exactly I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: Next.
Speaker 2: One of the things that Ackerman says is they were
Speaker 2: all it's southern California's is a nineteen ninety seven interview.
Speaker 1: He's in his eighties.
Speaker 2: He's like, it's you know, we're He's like, it's southern California.
Speaker 2: We're all into the cult scene. We're all just you know,
Speaker 2: we were doing everyone was doing different cult things, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of way explained it very nonchalantly
Speaker 2: like that, right.
Speaker 1: Like that, that's fine, that's weird. If people weren't dying
Speaker 1: and stuff, it would be fine. I don't have any
Speaker 1: problem with people doing people stuff. Don't hurt other people
Speaker 1: or animals, but this is not that. Obviously clearly people
Speaker 1: are dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's obviously. Some folks take it
Speaker 2: to some extremes, But it's kind of like you were saying, though,
Speaker 2: like you know, it's Tuesday, We're going to do a
Speaker 2: ritual over here on Tuesdays, you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and it's and it's I don't think we'll
Speaker 1: ever know the truth. Like they always like the JFK
Speaker 1: file thing, they released this whole big part, but then
Speaker 1: they didn't release RFK and they didn't release all these
Speaker 1: other pieces of this other guy that critical with the
Speaker 1: whole alien thing. I'm like, Okay, you guys are just
Speaker 1: never going to be truthful.
Speaker 2: Let's get real, right, they're just playing games, right.
Speaker 1: It's annoying. It's and I knew it was going to
Speaker 1: be annoying because of Roy Cone. And the current president
Speaker 1: isn't going to talk too much about that when he
Speaker 1: used to be, you know, over the branch off of
Speaker 1: the Mary Carter Paint Company, a national for a minute now,
Speaker 1: I'm found it for a hot second, and you're going,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what the hell's happening over here?
Speaker 2: No, that's a good point, and it's funny, you know.
Speaker 2: I found I found more pictures of old old Donnie
Speaker 2: Boy going to Roy Coin's birthday parties and subsequent years
Speaker 2: to seventy eight when they first his first appearance there
Speaker 2: at Roy's fifty second at fifty four.
Speaker 1: Oh man, and they're the worst. He looks like he's
Speaker 1: having the worst, like ever time. He's always got this
Speaker 1: scale on his face as far as Cone, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Cone, Okay, per fat smile jee. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, my point like, I was a little shocked to
Speaker 2: find him going back because if you're gonna if I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to a party, especially if you're supposed to
Speaker 2: a tee total or like old Donald Trump is there,
Speaker 2: l presidente. He again, I'm not the vice president, I
Speaker 2: have no associations, but the yeah, you know, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna dress the man up like a little Roman boy
Speaker 2: toy and a leash type of deal, right, and you
Speaker 2: wonder why he's going back for the next year's party.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. I'm like, Okay, this whole thing is completely connected,
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent, and when you're looking at
Speaker 1: it all, you know for a fact, like he can't
Speaker 1: release it all. It makes absolutely zero, right, zero, zero
Speaker 1: sense to screw your own self over, especially when you
Speaker 1: own the Atlantis hotel. For a moment, please do tell
Speaker 1: me about the aliens, mister president.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a good point. And not only that,
Speaker 2: like when you say he was he got Resorts International
Speaker 2: underneath his Trump Network umbrella, I mean what you're really
Speaker 2: saying there, right though, Hoti is that he inherited a
Speaker 2: bunch of blackmail operations.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely. I mean they're not playing
Speaker 1: for for like fun, you know, they this is big
Speaker 1: boy toys, and they act like Donald's part was nothing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute, he was going bankrupt
Speaker 1: at that time. Oh, just like the Mormon Church was
Speaker 1: right before a watergate, and then what happens They do
Speaker 1: this thing the Mullen Company from fashion and Boom fixes
Speaker 1: the church. Boom fixes Trump's problem.
Speaker 5: Right, come on, come on, it's too that's stupid. Like
Speaker 5: anybody that doesn't catch that, I'm just like, no, that
Speaker 5: that doesn't make any sense, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. Sure, I mean it does make sense,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't make sense that the dots wouldn't connect clearly.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's obviously what I think you're what I
Speaker 2: was tracking. What you're saying is there's something more going
Speaker 2: on there than what we're being told. And it's pretty obvious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we can take some stabs and some suggestions and what
Speaker 2: that might be, but some educated guesses of that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're left in the dark of it clearly, right.
Speaker 1: Well, and we can follow the little red dots. But
Speaker 1: like you know, when people start turning up dead in baptubs,
Speaker 1: that's you know, at thirty seven, because they already had
Speaker 1: a bad heart. Real Okay, I'm talking about Onassis's daughter,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, look at this connection here, you know,
Speaker 1: for first she did and this is what they say, Oh,
Speaker 1: diet pills.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, sir no. And my brain's
Speaker 1: completely like saturated in that right now. But there's so
Speaker 1: many things that always connect every single time. Uh. And
Speaker 1: and star Wars' is Starvars, I think, is how you
Speaker 1: say his name? That was his like competitor. They were
Speaker 1: kind of against each other, you know, and that was yes, Starvars.
Speaker 1: He's a Greek family and that was his brother.
Speaker 2: Is he a staying at comedian, No.
Speaker 1: He's a Greek Greek shipping guy.
Speaker 2: There's some Greek there's some Greek stand comedian by that name.
Speaker 1: I think, really, oh yeah, but yeah, it's like fascinating
Speaker 1: to me that they and they end up in families
Speaker 1: like the top guy that was the Greek shipping uh,
Speaker 1: like boss guy they marry his daughters and then both
Speaker 1: of them get a daughter and and like they hate
Speaker 1: each other I'm like, wait a minute, why are you
Speaker 1: all all in the family? What the hell I mean?
Speaker 1: But then you start thinking about it, right, like, who's
Speaker 1: who's the one person that can't testify against you in
Speaker 1: a court of law. You're freaking wife?
Speaker 2: Oh is this you're talking about?
Speaker 1: No, he was a handsome fellow sort of but they both.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a Greek fella.
Speaker 1: I think it's nic Ros Starvos or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's the other way. Yes, yep, there he is. And
Speaker 1: so it's interesting.
Speaker 2: So he was another he was another shipping tycoon.
Speaker 1: Huh yep, and they were, and they both married the
Speaker 1: daughters of another shipping tycoon. Isn't that weird? Like they
Speaker 1: definitely keep it in the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird. I'll be talking. I've never heard this guy.
Speaker 2: As much as I've heard of NASA's name, I don't
Speaker 2: think i've ever heard this fellaw's name.
Speaker 1: This guy, his wives, That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: We don't want to ruin it, but I'm telling you
Speaker 1: guys what. It gets crazy crazy, and they hate each other.
Speaker 1: They have to go to Christmas together. Could you imagine
Speaker 1: they're like they marry sisters, so like they have to
Speaker 1: see each other sometimes, and Onassis is quoted as saying,
Speaker 1: we go to war, but we're nice. We're nice for
Speaker 1: the ladies. So is it?
Speaker 2: Well, so so the fellow Blowfield from James Bond and
Speaker 2: later Doctor Evil from Awesome Powers. Right, he's supposed to
Speaker 2: be an Assis, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah in that Yeah, and he's only look at
Speaker 1: his middle name.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh so maybe he's an amalgamation of both of those guys, right.
Speaker 1: Well, and so his pro progeny or whatever, his his
Speaker 1: son's son, I believe ends up dating Paris Hilton.
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm serious. The Hiltons are they got some
Speaker 2: I know, I.
Speaker 1: Know about them Hiltons, believe it. Ye, put in Paris Hilton.
Speaker 2: I think I think the film made that. I'll go ahead,
Speaker 2: just put.
Speaker 1: In Paris Hilton and Starvaross and you'll see he was
Speaker 1: a handsome kid, like I mean, he still is. He's
Speaker 1: still alive, it right, Just.
Speaker 2: I think they made her uncle sell his NFL team
Speaker 2: because he was had too much mob stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't surprise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the owner of the charters at one
Speaker 2: point in time.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It's it's wild to me when you see
Speaker 1: how it gets handed down and then they're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not in the mob.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean we're talking to mob families here,
Speaker 2: and then right the Hilton's and the Staberis or whatever,
Speaker 2: what's his fellows name?
Speaker 1: You know, you know what this is this is about.
Speaker 1: You can't somebody said he would have been disinherited, which
Speaker 1: is true if he married her. But here's why I
Speaker 1: think about it. You can't have that big of a
Speaker 1: family's come together, no way.
Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I was suggesting, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And babies can't be made like that, Like you make
Speaker 1: a baby with them too, then the grandpa's can't kill them,
Speaker 1: they can't have them waxt.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well now that you can find yourself in
Speaker 2: a dirty fai aed princess die situation. Right suppose she
Speaker 2: was uprightnant with his kids, And that's the fads. That's
Speaker 2: a powerful bunch.
Speaker 1: And I mean there's always a more on somewhere, lingering
Speaker 1: in the weird background. I'm like, where the hell, why
Speaker 1: the hell are you here? Where the hell did you
Speaker 1: come from? Why are you here? But yeah, it's always weird,
Speaker 1: who knows strange? But but what fascinating when I won't
Speaker 1: ruin it, but that grandpa of his, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: straight up killer and I mean it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Often, we'll have to maybe touch on that again in
Speaker 2: a future episode here because I have to.
Speaker 1: It'll be one mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, maybe we'll have to do
Speaker 2: it in a cold esteroteric review of James Bond sometimes
Speaker 2: because the first Bond you got, you got Blowfield, right,
Speaker 2: you got blow Casino Royalite. I think you get Blowfield,
Speaker 2: who seems to be a NASA's in the Stavros Fella
Speaker 2: combined as far as the character basis, and you got
Speaker 2: Lashia and the chef is based on Crowley.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. I feel she looked like
Speaker 1: her mom was quite attractive, but her dad definitely his kid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a curse, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh they're all everyone's dead but one her daughter. Everyone's dead.
Speaker 1: You tell me that's a coincidence. That's no coincidence that
Speaker 1: he got too big, you know, and she stays out
Speaker 1: of the lime light. You don't hear about that girl,
Speaker 1: no way. Mm hmmm. They're talking about they're talking about
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton being at Provan Provo Canyon School, and that's
Speaker 1: true in a mental institution here. Yeah, they locked Paris
Speaker 1: up here and didn't they treated her dirty? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real.
Speaker 2: Mormons did Huh. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Mormons, but they've checked her
Speaker 1: ass in here. Probably don't know what.
Speaker 2: There's no way the Mormons aren't running a mental institution
Speaker 2: in the state of Utah. I mean, that's kind for.
Speaker 1: Sure, that's true. I will get one for sure. That's real.
Speaker 2: This guy was in the ship, was the guy who's
Speaker 2: the Bonds playing against in the big Poker tournament in
Speaker 2: Casino Royale. And he's based upon Fleming Stadium is based
Speaker 2: on Crowley. They served together there in six Wow, that's wild.
Speaker 3: Back to this.
Speaker 2: You know all the spooks stuff, right, spooks and spookes
Speaker 2: and spies you got in Fleming as well, right, the
Speaker 2: whole James Bond series.
Speaker 1: I think all of Utah's spooks and spies half the time.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong, especially the NSA center y'all
Speaker 2: have out there.
Speaker 1: Oh, we have about we have let's see, we have
Speaker 1: an air Force base, we have the I R S,
Speaker 1: we have the NSA, We have the FBI newly built
Speaker 1: in Farmington, and we have I don't know if the CIA,
Speaker 1: But then we have that big vault where they keep
Speaker 1: all the things that the Mormons, you know, the Mormon Vault.
Speaker 1: I can't remember right now, but all of that's within
Speaker 1: like forty five minutes with me. That's why people are
Speaker 1: always like and if I ever am not here on
Speaker 1: this universe, it y'all better look into it.
Speaker 2: You didn't mention this place though. How are you familiar
Speaker 2: with this one?
Speaker 1: The is this the one where they keep Yeah, the
Speaker 1: cybersecurity yep, it's a huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All of the water, the water just to cool down
Speaker 1: the computers here is bananas. Like they're always saying, we
Speaker 1: have a drought, but evaporates as soon as they have
Speaker 1: to run it through for these computers to keep the
Speaker 1: mainframe cool enough to store all this data. Drot my ass.
Speaker 2: Saying, right, these buildings are huge. Look at these data centers.
Speaker 1: Yep, the NSA, Yeah, that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think these are some of the deals that Mormon
Speaker 2: struck years ago when they decided to come back into America.
Speaker 1: I think I think that, plus the presidential relationships they
Speaker 1: made with George A. Smith, George A. Smith is the
Speaker 1: key to like at least the societies, like the hidden
Speaker 1: societies becoming more and more integral into the Mormon Church.
Speaker 1: He was the first one to like join the Rotary
Speaker 1: Club and these other things that don't really make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I mean, of course, skull and bones
Speaker 1: all that stuff is already in there at that point,
Speaker 1: but like this other stuff, the Rotary Club that's typically Catholic,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really not like a Mormony thing
Speaker 1: to be. But yet there they are. And there's lots
Speaker 1: of quotes, especially from Spencer W. Kimball saying he's going
Speaker 1: to miss the Rotary luncheon. I think Justin's brought this
Speaker 1: up before and different stuff like in his journals, and
Speaker 1: so that's how we know. But George A. Smith was
Speaker 1: photographed at a Rotary Rotarian Club thing and mentioning, you
Speaker 1: know that he was so excited blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this doesn't really align with the Mormon
Speaker 1: Like this is drinking and coffee and tea like all
Speaker 1: these things, like it's not aligning. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: But yet things really start to look up for the Mormons.
Speaker 1: About then with integrating into the government, and then it
Speaker 1: fully takes off with Watergate. And I hate to say
Speaker 1: it because Bob Bennett, everybody says he's so nice and
Speaker 1: that's great, but he did confirmed worked for the CIA,
Speaker 1: and was, you know, running a shield of a corporation
Speaker 1: with the Molin Company, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the finances of the Mormons are fixed after he takes
Speaker 1: the fall. I'm sorry, Like, I think he helped them.
Speaker 2: Sure, this is what I'm saying as far as and
Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with that stories. My mother was a
Speaker 2: friend and fellow ward member with Bob Bennett there in
Speaker 2: DC at that time. I would would argue that they
Speaker 2: may have dated from the way the way I heard
Speaker 2: those stories, they were definitely friends. That they were the
Speaker 2: same age, you know, roughly the same age. You know
Speaker 2: how the Mormons are. They're always trying to link up
Speaker 2: the young single adults in each word, right, So I
Speaker 2: think I don't think it was more of a dating thing.
Speaker 2: It was more of one of those type of things, right.
Speaker 1: Right, But you see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these deals you're talking about though, with Bennett and
Speaker 2: the Molin Agency, I think this is what I'm saying
Speaker 2: I think they ever signed up for the spooky deals
Speaker 2: back there in the with eighteen ninety fours? What was
Speaker 2: it when they came back in the Union.
Speaker 1: Right, right, It's it's just it's two coincidental. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think at some point, especially like you said, when
Speaker 1: they came back into the Union. The funniest thing ever
Speaker 1: was that they sent you know, everybody was to send
Speaker 1: a block to the George Washington Monument, and so Utah
Speaker 1: hadn't which its name to Utah yet and instead it
Speaker 1: was called desiret And their blog set doesret and it
Speaker 1: has the all Seeing Eye on it. It's hysterical, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so funny. Yeah, it's so funny,
Speaker 1: and most people don't know. But like, hello, like I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure you can see visually what the Mormons are
Speaker 1: all about, you know, the Brotherhood clearly. Sure, Yeah, they'll
Speaker 1: do anything for the Brotherhood, much like some podcasts. Oh no,
Speaker 1: just kidding, I'm teazing.
Speaker 3: You know that that Deserright news site. Believe it? And
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess kind of like the whole thing
Speaker 3: with the Mormons, I guess their whole family tree thing.
Speaker 3: It actually works great if you want to use it
Speaker 3: kind of like against them. Like I found so much
Speaker 3: information on them when I was covering Skinwalk a range
Speaker 3: on just certain Mormons because of them popping up in
Speaker 3: Deserrate News. That's how I found out how many people
Speaker 3: were actually morning because they were popping up in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I think there was one with the eye,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's that. Is that a beehive? But I
Speaker 1: thought the eye was over the top, but maybe not. No,
Speaker 1: it's there, you're right, Oh yeah you can. I was like,
Speaker 1: I swear it was there. Okay, good. I was like, brain,
Speaker 1: don't start failing me now. There.
Speaker 2: I was just I was fascinated by the beehive there.
Speaker 1: Oh you know the beehive they got they got include
Speaker 1: that right, So.
Speaker 2: It's on the stool. What are we looking at your
Speaker 2: neck with the stool situation?
Speaker 1: The horns to dude, the horns. Did you see those horns?
Speaker 2: Horn sides?
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what's interesting with that beehive formation, the
Speaker 3: way it's done it that looks just like the floor
Speaker 3: the twin peaks inside the lodge.
Speaker 1: This type of hive, do you know this type of
Speaker 1: hive is actually really not a good hive for the
Speaker 1: bees that actually they die after the is harnessed from
Speaker 1: these ones. This is not a great, great sharing of
Speaker 1: like prosperousness like what they try to say. No, they
Speaker 1: provide what they need to provide and then they die
Speaker 1: with this type of.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I was wondering here, because this looks
Speaker 2: like a unique beehive. This is not a normal beehive, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it's sitting on a stool.
Speaker 3: Has something to do with it, the full legs and
Speaker 3: all absolute.
Speaker 1: And the trumpets and all of it. I haven't counted
Speaker 1: how many.
Speaker 2: But so essentially the first act to bring them young, right,
Speaker 2: because this is eighteen fifty three one of his first.
Speaker 1: Acts, right yep, to play ball yep. But I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they didn't change their name yet on there. But maybe
Speaker 1: they already had the stone done right right.
Speaker 3: Got a handshake of yeah.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, do they still call themselves
Speaker 2: desert and internally to the mothership? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Kind of like, uh, now, only the only things that
Speaker 1: Deseret is now they do name like their their can't
Speaker 1: goods and stuff like that on on those or anything
Speaker 1: produced by the church like food wise has desret on
Speaker 1: it when it's internal, but not that I know they
Speaker 1: never say that now, but yeah, you know Beck cut
Speaker 1: out there for a second story about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you you see this number, your next two
Speaker 2: twenty so the two undred twenty foot level of the
Speaker 2: of the obelisk. Any significance you link to.
Speaker 3: That twenty two? Maybe that's that is interesting to think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. Look at those trumpets too, you know,
Speaker 1: the trumpets symbolize. I think there'll be a certain number
Speaker 1: of them. I'd have to look at it better, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some significance there that that isn't just
Speaker 1: on the outward. There's a lot of detail in this photo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I see a number of trumpets here. I
Speaker 2: see one, two, three, four. Oh, it's really they kind
Speaker 2: of blend in with the leaves at some point too, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven, I see seven, a maybe and.
Speaker 2: Then some maybe somebody you over here that were destroyed.
Speaker 2: What happened here weathering?
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know, that's so weird. It's such a
Speaker 1: weird thing for them to send, Like everybody else's was
Speaker 1: like very you know, patriotic and stuff, and they sent this,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure I'm sure they were kind of like,
Speaker 1: could you imagine the guy that unboxes it? Freaking Mormons?
Speaker 1: Freakin' Mormons.
Speaker 2: It kind of makes the questions, why did they send
Speaker 2: this in eighteen fifty three? They're at war with the
Speaker 2: US government?
Speaker 1: Right? Well are they? Though? Because they helped finish the
Speaker 1: freaking uh the railroad and everything. Oh we're war with you,
Speaker 1: but let us help you.
Speaker 2: Well, I would I would argue, either are the actions
Speaker 2: of a secret society?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, you know, and I know that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's more and it's more than freemason any people always
Speaker 1: that that's low hanging fruit, you know, Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: it's way further.
Speaker 2: The uh. I totally agree. What are your what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts that on the on the Mormons and their uh,
Speaker 2: their secret activities in the eighteen fifties, eighteen fifties there,
Speaker 2: you know, they went to they went to Mexico, and
Speaker 2: now they're doing American stuff still.
Speaker 3: Something I was the Mexican cults love going to Mexico too.
Speaker 2: Huh right.
Speaker 1: Somebody just commented about Romney that's all about Mexico though, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Those moments, you know, I still think something's up with that,
Speaker 3: with with the moments down there in Mexico, I think
Speaker 3: they're up to some weird ship. I could watch a
Speaker 3: special I couldn't remember why I watched it all where
Speaker 3: they were covering it Romney and the cartel that's around. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that disapols Vice, that DISAPPOLSI got war with. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it was Vice, but they did say. The
Speaker 3: interesting thing is there's kids a lot of kids in
Speaker 3: the cartel. Areas disappear and I'm wondering, like, it's the
Speaker 3: cartel possibly getting the guns from the Mormons and they're
Speaker 3: taking their kids as payment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we already seen that some of those Lebaran
Speaker 2: kids get marked. They were next to you Nanny's So
Speaker 2: there's something going on there right.
Speaker 1: One hun definitely. I mean every time you see the
Speaker 1: LeBaron show up, it's weird. And they have connects clear
Speaker 1: up to Hollywood. Speaking of Hollywood, because that Christine from
Speaker 1: Sister Wives, she's a Libaron. Her grandpa was le Baron.
Speaker 1: I think she's directed.
Speaker 2: They're just as powerful within the Mothership, if not more
Speaker 2: than the Romneys.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. They just stay underneath unless they get
Speaker 1: pissed off and start killing everybody.
Speaker 3: You know, they just.
Speaker 2: The Jeff's, the Romneys, they get all the attention, right,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure. Well, you know, the Jeffs have
Speaker 1: been definitely brought down twenty levels because they had to
Speaker 1: go build the bed that we knew should have been
Speaker 1: the altar in the first place. Stupid DNA.
Speaker 2: It makes me wonder what goes on with some of
Speaker 2: these behind the scenes, except especially with these fundamentalists Mormon colts,
Speaker 2: like what really is the precipitating events to really really
Speaker 2: screwed Warren Jeffs over for example, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: what caused him to really go in there and rest them?
Speaker 1: Finally Texas well, the twelve year old. But I mean
Speaker 1: he had two babies with two twelve year olds, and
Speaker 1: he was pissing off everybody. So my brother in law
Speaker 1: that wasn't right, No, but he was taking out enough men.
Speaker 1: So my brother in law is Warren Jeff's nephew. I
Speaker 1: think I've told you guys that before. But anyway, they
Speaker 1: went there, they went to Texas and they were helping
Speaker 1: build and he was giving them impossible tasks like build
Speaker 1: the sewer system uphill. Well, sorry, that's not going to work,
Speaker 1: but they were doing this to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and so they were doing it to take their wives,
Speaker 1: and not so much him. He only had two wives.
Speaker 1: But by the time he got home, he just said,
Speaker 1: it's not it's like not. He was not being disrespectful.
Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy ever. He was like, this doesn't
Speaker 1: it's not going to work, you know. And so by
Speaker 1: the time he got home, they said you have to go.
Speaker 1: You argued with the prophet. And remember this is his
Speaker 1: uncle on two sides through mom and dad. And so
Speaker 1: by the time he got home, his wives were gone,
Speaker 1: his kids were gone, everything was gone. He never saw
Speaker 1: him again for like eight years. But they then they
Speaker 1: proceeded further to take out his dad. And his dad
Speaker 1: had a lot of wives I think thirteen maybe I
Speaker 1: can't remember specifically, but a lot of kids, and then
Speaker 1: they can take them because you didn't do the right thing,
Speaker 1: or you didn't whatever, they can, you know, And so
Speaker 1: people started talking more. This leads to people getting upset
Speaker 1: is the situation, saying like yeah, no, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't just keep taking all our wives and kids and
Speaker 1: kicking us out. And still they were still working and
Speaker 1: giving all the homage and money and everything, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just super upsetting, you know, sure, every So
Speaker 1: the more they did that, the more people were like
Speaker 1: gonna talk. I think that was part of the undoing.
Speaker 1: Is they just got greedy?
Speaker 2: That makes sense, It makes sense. Yeah, we got a
Speaker 2: question here, who were the little barons there? In my opinion,
Speaker 2: they're kind of the og fundamentalist right, everyone else, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of broke off from them, right, the Romney's, the Jeffs,
Speaker 2: everybody right, yeah, each other?
Speaker 1: Oh, they did it again, just barely and like what
Speaker 1: was it twenty seventeen or twenty sixteen, they had right,
Speaker 1: but bout doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but their initial their initial separation within the family
Speaker 2: was as a result of a murder between what two brothers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, only can be one mighty and strong. You
Speaker 1: better believe.
Speaker 2: Exactly they went all Highlander on each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did in the middle of the night, shooting
Speaker 1: up people's wives and kids. Man, like just going bananas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a crazy story, and they.
Speaker 2: Give a crazy structure even even the Mexican versions of
Speaker 2: these compounds of a couple hundred miles south of this one,
Speaker 2: you know, they're the Labarns and the Romney compounds down there.
Speaker 2: This is the Jeff's compound near near literally in the
Speaker 2: literally in the middle of Texas. Like it's there's just
Speaker 2: what's south of San Angelo.
Speaker 1: Out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the actual the actual geographic center of Texas is
Speaker 2: not far from here. So I was at Goodfellow Air
Speaker 2: Force Base the day this got raided. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: so they and they came in brief The FBI went
Speaker 2: and briefed Goodfellow. So I was there on a headquarters
Speaker 2: inspection the unit and the operations officer. When I got
Speaker 2: there that morning, he says, you're gonna you can picked
Speaker 2: a good day here to come first her base visit.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, sit down. He's like, we're about to
Speaker 2: watch some good stuff. He's turning on the TV and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's like describing me what's going on you know before
Speaker 2: you know, you know, what happened that morning, you know
Speaker 2: or the day before. I guess maybe the FBI can
Speaker 2: brief him and whatnot. As being the operations guy in
Speaker 2: charge of all the cops are in the base there,
Speaker 2: I think they used the base as a staging point
Speaker 2: of if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, and they kept going through they
Speaker 1: couldn't get in the temple like immediately. I can't remember
Speaker 1: the story. I think they had to get somebody to
Speaker 1: help them. They were trying not to desperate it. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the right key, huh not apparently not.
Speaker 1: They're all about their keys, that's for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they found they found all a lot of mess and
Speaker 1: birth records being messed with, speaking of missing kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2: Apparently the FBI started their raid up their good Fellow
Speaker 2: Air Force Base and then traveled the fifty or so
Speaker 2: miles down to the yf Z Ranch in the middle
Speaker 2: of nowhere.
Speaker 3: So wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems so odd because, like sign, they've
Speaker 2: had so many problems with scientology as far as not
Speaker 2: reading their places. And again, you're not that far from
Speaker 2: the border. Although the the le Barons and the Romneys
Speaker 2: are way over here just south of Belt Pass, just
Speaker 2: south of Warre is like right in this region right here,
Speaker 2: they're not really they're not really close, but it is
Speaker 2: a similar compound. Yeah, oh know, they're going for the
Speaker 2: same aesthetics. I'm not sure what they're aiming for here.
Speaker 2: These are unique Mormon temples. Though, are they not?
Speaker 1: They they don't look like the others for sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely not. I mean, I granted their budget is probably different,
Speaker 1: but they also have a lot of laborers. I feel
Speaker 1: like they could have made them however, you know what, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, definitely, so many expenses, right, I don't
Speaker 2: think now when it comes to building temples or at
Speaker 2: least you know.
Speaker 1: He said he was working like almost twenty hours a
Speaker 1: day like not. And you know they work for free, so.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, you know, they're just buying,
Speaker 2: they're religious buying materials at that point, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's all they were out. And they I mean
Speaker 1: clearly they had enough money for Warren to go have himself,
Speaker 1: you know, fancy cars and you know, wearing red and
Speaker 1: gambling and prostitutes. And I'm glad you.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that because now I just remembered
Speaker 2: they had another compound in what Arizona City, Arizona.
Speaker 1: In Colorado City, Yes.
Speaker 2: Colorado City, Arizona, thank you, which is right on the border,
Speaker 2: not far from the good folks ever at Best Friends
Speaker 2: Animal Society, AK, the Processed Church and Canna.
Speaker 1: Of Utah that's right. And they have another one in Hilldale.
Speaker 1: So what they used to do is there's a cave
Speaker 1: with a tunnel in it, and Hilldale is in Utah,
Speaker 1: but Colorado City is in Arizona. So when the cops
Speaker 1: would come for them in whichever state they were in,
Speaker 1: they would just go through the cave system to the
Speaker 1: other state.
Speaker 3: Because that's.
Speaker 1: Not dumb on a lot ofies, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might be, they might be in bred and
Speaker 2: looking ridiculous, but they're not dommies right exactly.
Speaker 1: And let alone the Kingston's that's another hole well that
Speaker 1: they're they're heavy up here too in Colorado State, right
Speaker 1: the Kingston's right.
Speaker 2: Look out, it is a canal, not even not even
Speaker 2: an hour's drive.
Speaker 1: And I did another one with a guy. Oh and
Speaker 1: it was one I'd never even heard of before. It
Speaker 1: was called man, I should look into that again. Something
Speaker 1: friends something and and there's a he's like right next
Speaker 1: to Colorado City. But they don't speak. It's like, nope,
Speaker 1: you don't enter, marry, none of that. And but they
Speaker 1: were all the same place for sex. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: Turf war going on, got a Mormons turf war yep.
Speaker 2: So the are you familiar with this fellow, Margarito Bautista.
Speaker 2: He's an actual Mexican national Mormon fundamentalist cult leader.
Speaker 3: Oh he was.
Speaker 2: His call was down by Mexico City. Wait, way further south,
Speaker 2: way further south?
Speaker 1: Makes you wonder, Like, I mean, clearly they were setting up.
Speaker 1: They were setting up so many things, because like String
Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin and did it, and then we've got
Speaker 1: the Canada branch Kingston's and these guys are in Mexico,
Speaker 1: like they were setting up a huge like situation here.
Speaker 2: Well, then you got Joseph Smith. The third went to Independence, Missouri, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry I went back to Kurland, right, Independance
Speaker 2: for one.
Speaker 1: Of the two. Yeah, I thought it was. I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, they end up acquiring both properties at one point
Speaker 2: in time, but I'm not sure which one was first.
Speaker 2: Presumably it was probably Carling. It was less heat than Independence.
Speaker 2: It was still legal to murder Mormon in Missouri until
Speaker 2: like nineteen seventy two, so you can think Joseph Smith
Speaker 2: for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the wives, you know, Mormon Hunton right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they really built some pretty pretty large compounds
Speaker 2: down here in Mexico. Again, it's slightly different than what
Speaker 2: we're seeing there with the Jeffs compound. I'm surying to
Speaker 2: bring up a good picture here of the le Baron
Speaker 2: and Romney activities down there in Mexico. But you know it,
Speaker 2: seemingly they don't spare many expenses in these compounds, especially
Speaker 2: not the lot. That's that's not a temple. Let me
Speaker 2: from the temple, that says that's the Steake Academy building.
Speaker 2: So that's probably an administrative building for the steak. Why
Speaker 2: would they have their own steak kytie? They live on
Speaker 2: one compound?
Speaker 1: Well, you know files No, just kidding, you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean though, Like, why would they need to stake the steak?
Speaker 2: Is the regional organization, right, that's your y. You have
Speaker 2: enormous numerous wards under the steak, So they have numerous
Speaker 2: wards on this one compound of the same thing. Is
Speaker 2: that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1: No, that's I mean usually if they have a small
Speaker 1: enough area, they just do it at the church. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, right, What else are they doing out
Speaker 2: of this steak building?
Speaker 1: Huh? That's it's not serving up delicious steaks. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: very like the seventies parties, but less weird.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, more weird.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very seldom to things get less weird, they usually
Speaker 2: get weird, more weird.
Speaker 3: It's actually weird. No coke, you know, there's no coke,
Speaker 3: but somehow it's weird.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm trying to find pictures of this. Oh yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find pictures of the temple down there.
Speaker 2: And as I've seen it before in the Romney compound,
Speaker 2: it's kind of unique. But I stumbled across this picture
Speaker 2: from Smithsonian Mormon guy and Janos, Mexico Mormon guy John Hatch.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming range hatches kin folk chats with a youngster
Speaker 2: at a seventeenth century Catholic church. What a weird image.
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: People? You know what I mean? Right? And the kid
Speaker 1: looks kind of scared. Look at the.
Speaker 2: Body posture, super freaked out. I'd be creeped out too
Speaker 2: by that guy, quite honest, for sure. Here's Mitten's cousin.
Speaker 2: I think he's one of he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2: You look at him, he's like, oh, that's a white fellow.
Speaker 2: And then he starts talking like, whoa dude, you like
Speaker 2: the most Mexican dude I've ever heard? Really, you know,
Speaker 2: you ever heard of them talk?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, he's he's as cholo as sounding
Speaker 2: as it gets. You know, you're like, wait a second, dude,
Speaker 2: where is this? Is this east last east side of
Speaker 2: La What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go, Here we go. This is the
Speaker 2: Romney Temple. It's kind of it's more like the the
Speaker 2: traditional style.
Speaker 1: Temples, right, looks like Saint George, Yeah right.
Speaker 2: Kind of the like the ones you see there in
Speaker 2: southern Utah. They're the uh, not quite as elaborate as
Speaker 2: the Mothership, but you know they're they're fancy.
Speaker 1: Wild, but the things they do, it's not the regular things.
Speaker 1: The things that that are hidden I'm sure just bananas. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, so it's interesting because now they're being forced to
Speaker 2: build all these temples, right, and because the arrest is like, hey,
Speaker 2: you can't send on all that money, you got to
Speaker 2: spend it. But they're not building temples like this anymore.
Speaker 2: What is this the Romney Temple? This is an official
Speaker 2: Mothership website? Wh would have on the official Mothership website.
Speaker 2: That's weird right Church of Jesus Christ Temples dot org. Right,
Speaker 2: this is an official mothership website. But yetists, Yeah, that's well.
Speaker 1: You know, the fundamentalists don't want anything to do with
Speaker 1: the mainstream people, but vice versa. I would say they're
Speaker 1: very prone to wanting to work together. I'm sure for
Speaker 1: enough money you could make it work. You know. I
Speaker 1: heard that the Kingston I think they all work. I
Speaker 1: haven't verified, just so you guys know, but the Kingstons
Speaker 1: are extremely rich, and it's it's postulated that they are
Speaker 1: involved in the Maverick gas stations. And also I heard
Speaker 1: that they brought they brought in a genesist to actually
Speaker 1: help them not have damaged children because they were they
Speaker 1: believe the old way that they only have babies with
Speaker 1: like uncles and brothers and cousins, and you know, because
Speaker 1: they're keeping they say they have the divine right to
Speaker 1: rule and that their actual posterity of the royal bloodlines.
Speaker 1: You know, so mayrivngine. Yeah, sure, sure, this.
Speaker 2: Is so that Mexican Margarito, but he'sta He started the
Speaker 2: Third Convention fundamentalist of breakaway movement in nineteen thirty six. Right,
Speaker 2: so this is after the polygamy stuff. So I'm not
Speaker 2: exactly sure what Well, I have to get more into that,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's a good topic of conversation in the future.
Speaker 2: Is one I was hoping to have there with with
Speaker 2: Ray at Codegi's Codex of Curiosities, because he's the one
Speaker 2: who been talking with him about a vampire satanic vampire
Speaker 2: drug trafficking cult. You know, Nick and I were discussing
Speaker 2: with him there.
Speaker 1: Uh were you?
Speaker 2: Were you with us on that one? Heidi?
Speaker 1: I wasn't that sounds fascinating?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't didn't think so, Yeah it was. So it
Speaker 2: was yeah, Nick, go ahead, you probably has more details
Speaker 2: than I do. And it was Magdalena Solis.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, at least it was that because of
Speaker 3: the last name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't that the one where it was uh yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a screwed up one where like her brother
Speaker 3: was kind of like technically pimping around at first, and
Speaker 3: then I think like they started like kind of like
Speaker 3: some cult. But I don't know, like, wasn't it to me?
Speaker 3: I think it was like an operation possibly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definite an operation, right, she came in
Speaker 2: and sees up a drug network. And like started being
Speaker 2: their vampire goddess. And that's the same thing Homboy did
Speaker 2: at the Madame Morris cult and Monterey, same Mexican state,
Speaker 2: almost the same time.
Speaker 3: It was even things that we remember. We even kind
Speaker 3: of throw a little bit of like parallels between that
Speaker 3: and I'll Alfonso Castanza kind of in a sense, I
Speaker 3: think that when Julia covered.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's the Matta Morris one right there. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of correlations between the two. And it seems
Speaker 2: to be custounds that was being run by the Inner
Speaker 2: Poll chief for or Mexico, who apparently get and you're
Speaker 2: in right around these same times as these cults, the
Speaker 2: Mattam Moros, this vampire cult just south of there with
Speaker 2: Macalene and Solees. It seems like that Interpol dude gave
Speaker 2: up an American DEA agent undercover who was murdered up
Speaker 2: there by the Labaron compound about ten minutes away from it.
Speaker 1: They don't play their straight up killers. They kill kids
Speaker 1: like in women. They don't care.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this a lot to be said around that
Speaker 2: vampire cult. But it was right that sent me down
Speaker 2: that rabbit.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know what, I don't really understand
Speaker 2: the rest of this Mormon cult stuff in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then I was shocked to see a late movement
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties of a Mexican national taking on
Speaker 2: a whole movement down by Mexico City. He would later
Speaker 2: be off in traditional Mormon cult leader fashion. Right, But
Speaker 2: that's a different story altogether. But yeah, Monterey is a hotbed.
Speaker 2: The is it Monterey? What's the where did that go down?
Speaker 2: Where did Matta Morris go down? That's the province of
Speaker 2: Monterey ors Mexican.
Speaker 3: State of Maybe I don't remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever I'm thinking of. Is it the city of Monterey?
Speaker 2: That the city of Monterey?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: No, wait, no, you know it's the state of Monoey Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's where the Nexium compound was down there too. Oh shoot, yeah,
Speaker 2: my god, Mexican. It was like I have a map
Speaker 2: of it somewhere, and I was saving here for that
Speaker 2: conversation with right, because I mapped out all the Mormon
Speaker 2: stuff all, you know, So you know, I'll save it
Speaker 2: for that. But yeah, we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: It's in their time. Hopefully he'll do it with us especially,
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, yes, the Mormons worship some people worship Quetzecadal.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about this, the quetze ocadal thing's going
Speaker 1: to come into play. That's weird. Mm hmm. I think
Speaker 1: they've tried to squash that.
Speaker 3: They think that's like basically Jesus. Well one one.
Speaker 1: Part of it. We were talking about how the Martins
Speaker 1: worship quitzecaddle gig yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Well, and I do think there is some belief system there, right,
Speaker 2: there's something there, right, I'm not sure what it is,
Speaker 2: but there's something there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a whole thing about that, and then
Speaker 1: the church tried to shut that down real quick. But
Speaker 1: then when we're talking about Jesus from the Mormons, and
Speaker 1: I always do this with it because you know, they
Speaker 1: don't say that he was created by Holy Spirit and
Speaker 1: it was immaculate conception, like we know, what do they say?
Speaker 1: People laugh and got pissed at me because I said, no,
Speaker 1: he did it with Mary. But people don't like that.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, guys how the prophets said it
Speaker 1: that Jesus was created with passions just like any other
Speaker 1: man in the flesh. So there it is. I mean, there's.
Speaker 2: You're telling me that Jesus is an ancient alien.
Speaker 1: That is what you're sorr. I think he is.
Speaker 2: I think he's enophlom for them, not our gentius idea Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the idea of quite a cuddle though, right, this
Speaker 2: is some sort of kind of ancient alien character, right,
Speaker 2: mm hmm, Nick, you've.
Speaker 1: Done a lot of work on this, right, not talking
Speaker 1: about I.
Speaker 3: Really don't get to tell what quatzcatal. I don't really
Speaker 3: understand that whole mason that means a woman connection too.
Speaker 2: Well, was it the Shriners? Was it the Shriners?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that yeah, that they know the order
Speaker 3: of Quatal is an in order. Well, it's an in
Speaker 3: order of the Shriners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are they? Who's quarts of coal to them?
Speaker 2: Is he some sort of ancient alien cargo?
Speaker 3: Well, it's like I guess basically that that idea in
Speaker 3: the Pyramid they do go to the pyramid. They have
Speaker 3: the Feast of Fire ritual, uh that they do every
Speaker 3: year that the roths Child uh actually fun.
Speaker 2: Ross Child action huh moremon right there anything like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if people were to go on like the
Speaker 3: Feast of Fire, if they look it up like every year,
Speaker 3: it will show you who their sponsors are. And you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's interesting. Your pain for that to happen. Oh boy,
Speaker 3: some actual legit companies on the.
Speaker 1: Huh, doesn't surprise, doesn't surprise. I think they know a
Speaker 1: good nephilone one when that when they see one right right,
Speaker 1: the yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean it's uh, it fits right in line with their
Speaker 2: their systems.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So you know that you mentioned Skinwalker Ranch, right, Nick
Speaker 2: Brandon Fugal.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, he's Yeah, he's interesting.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on him?
Speaker 1: He loves this Mexican Yeah, Randle is very interesting. I
Speaker 1: follow him on socials and I'll tell you with what
Speaker 1: with what he posts, it's weird. But I will tell
Speaker 1: you guys this, since he's on Skinwalker Ranch, he'll shoot
Speaker 1: you if you go out there.
Speaker 2: Psh, straight up, Well he won't shoot you, but that
Speaker 2: weird fella's got their cobra or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's had a security will right, yep, exactly, and they
Speaker 1: don't play.
Speaker 2: So he loves Mexico. So before he bought Skinwalker Ranch,
Speaker 2: he used to used to do a a Mormon tourism
Speaker 2: exploring Indiana Jones style trips down to Mexico to find
Speaker 2: the actual sites from the Book of Mormon.
Speaker 1: Mmm, like yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Had I didn't know he did that. But when we
Speaker 3: covered the Stillwalker Ranch, well, I don't know how many
Speaker 3: episodes it was. At one point I did say that
Speaker 3: I even found tours there were species specifically for Mormons
Speaker 3: to go to that pyramid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably owned that company. That's him on the
Speaker 2: far left right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's weird up in Hawaii too. He's buying
Speaker 3: up a ton of property.
Speaker 1: Ha ha Hawaii. You mean where the Mormons infiltrated during
Speaker 1: the time of Howard Hughes and took over the Polynesian
Speaker 1: Center And uh, then there was the Marriotte Yeah, opened
Speaker 1: up Blue Blue Origin or Blue something, I can't remember,
Speaker 1: something blue hotel there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm currently so frustrated, even more than I previously was
Speaker 2: with Brandon Fugel. As I went to go search for
Speaker 2: his former Mexican Mormon tourism company. The first hit I
Speaker 2: get is Brandon Fugal Mormon Battalion UFO siding eighteen forty six.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here. We got that Revolutionary
Speaker 2: Army War UFO sidings. Come on, Brandon Fugels, it's stuffed
Speaker 2: the war yeah, dude, it says a concise history of
Speaker 2: the Mormon battalion of the Mexican War. So apparently the
Speaker 2: Mormons fought and the Mexican War I didn't know, and
Speaker 2: then apparently the UFO siding, So I have to sadly,
Speaker 2: I have to read about this later because I don't
Speaker 2: want to read about it right now. I'm over the
Speaker 2: ancient alien cargo cults right now with these guys, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what. There's it's so ridiculous. So who is
Speaker 2: like who was Brandon Fugel though in and you know
Speaker 2: the the Utah and mixed because like the utes, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry of the ute mix? What do you all call it?
Speaker 2: The utes?
Speaker 1: The two ut Yeah? Yeah, the utes? Uh huh, it's
Speaker 1: like that from uh you know the my cousin Venice
Speaker 1: is the utes. He's like, what are you saying? The utes?
Speaker 2: Us?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The es Yeah, no, he he's definitely uh in
Speaker 1: the club. Yeah, rich people ship all all about it.
Speaker 1: And you can't even get him to like interview or
Speaker 1: go there anything unless you're like way up there, you know,
Speaker 1: or or going to give him a bunch of money,
Speaker 1: like what's his name? That does the silly ghost show
Speaker 1: ghost adventure thing, you know, like, yeah, it's got to
Speaker 1: be like something like that, if it's anything actually historical
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't think he does that unless it's
Speaker 1: for buddies, right, like in Utah. Yeah, the elite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotten that same vibe from guy too, So
Speaker 2: like he's basically been given an entire empire, the real
Speaker 2: estate stuff for the right, Like he's just kind of
Speaker 2: a frontman. Almost seems like in that operation, he's because
Speaker 2: he's an idiot. He listened to the guy talk, He's
Speaker 2: an idiot. I have a friend, I want my dude
Speaker 2: detective portal. He frequently trolls Brandon Fugel on Twister and
Speaker 2: it says the most ridiculou stuff and gets Fugle to
Speaker 2: retweet him like this is this guy moron? Does he
Speaker 2: not realize that you're throwing him? And they'll retweet it
Speaker 2: like he's a fan or something. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: listen to the guy talk, you feel like he's stuck
Speaker 2: in like a very early teenage mentality. He never progressed
Speaker 2: past that.
Speaker 1: Dude sweet.
Speaker 2: Just kidding, right, that's no, that's exactly the kind of
Speaker 2: attitude he portrays.
Speaker 1: I feel like Wow, So are you familiarly with the Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're blood he's probably bloodline. I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen.
Speaker 3: Oh he is.
Speaker 2: They started one of the towns up there, and they
Speaker 2: were they were his family were all bishops in the
Speaker 2: ward in that town for many years. So he's definitely
Speaker 2: in the mix. I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 2: like what it looks like going. I just know, like
Speaker 2: his father and grandfather and great grandfather, you know, they're
Speaker 2: all in this one town. They're just north of Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the town off the
Speaker 2: top of my head, but I'll look it.
Speaker 1: Up and JJ go down a rabbit hole on like
Speaker 1: some famous Mormon person. They're always in the club. They're
Speaker 1: always the bloodline. Like genealogy wise, it's in the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's without fail, it seems right.
Speaker 1: Literally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you are you familiar with a fellow by the
Speaker 2: name of Stephen green Street who's done a series on
Speaker 2: Skinwalker Ranch and other UFO nonsense for the New York Post.
Speaker 1: Huh uh. He's a former he grew up Mormon.
Speaker 2: He's went on a mission, and Fugel actually invited him
Speaker 2: out to the ranch to try to prove that there
Speaker 2: was a bunch you know, you know, a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of on going on on Netflix or something.
Speaker 2: I think I saw that he did it on his
Speaker 2: own New York Post series on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was like a six part.
Speaker 3: And all the more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, for Yougle's pretty tight lipped, like you
Speaker 2: were saying, they're hot. He only does highly produced shows
Speaker 2: that he produces. There on the Skinwalker ranch show, he's
Speaker 2: the executive producer, so he goes and says what goes
Speaker 2: on that screen. But he gave time to Stephen green
Speaker 2: Street on account of his background. I think because he
Speaker 2: was a Mormon, you know then you know, and he's
Speaker 2: also a grad from not from BYU. But where did
Speaker 2: where did?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You?
Speaker 3: So you know.
Speaker 2: I think that's why I gave him, you know, the
Speaker 2: invitation and some time because it's it was horrible press.
Speaker 1: Probably remember of the School and Bones, probably a member
Speaker 1: of the School and Bone Society of and you guys
Speaker 1: should watch my son. I had never really put two
Speaker 1: and two together with like esoteric type stuff. I knew
Speaker 1: about Skull and Bones, but on the outward and my
Speaker 1: son's like, mom, I went to this game and they
Speaker 1: do weird stuff like they hold their hands and they
Speaker 1: chant a certain way for the football team and they
Speaker 1: call it charging the house. And I was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell and he he's like yeah, and he told
Speaker 1: me all about it. I tried to find a video
Speaker 1: of it, but I hadn't found when. I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't do the biggest deep dive that day, but he
Speaker 1: was telling me all these different things and something about
Speaker 1: a torch and I was like, yeah, I hope you
Speaker 1: didn't participate in any of that, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not stupid. I didn't do that, right. I was like, good, yeah,
Speaker 1: what why are they doing that at a football game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That seems odd right, charging the house? And then something
Speaker 1: about the light and there was a torch, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this sounds like.
Speaker 2: Some very ratualistic stuff. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, wow, Okay, then that's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't familiar there was the skull and Bones
Speaker 2: out there in Utah until a few years ago my
Speaker 2: dude Recklesser the Farm Mack two podcast that brought that
Speaker 2: to my attention. I was like, holy shit, that's that's
Speaker 2: odd because you know, Bob Benning went there right and
Speaker 2: I'm saying Bill Bennett Bob, but yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 2: mixed up with his nephew, who's my bishop, you know,
Speaker 2: his Bill and Bill and I had a lot of
Speaker 2: beef because he wanted to he wanted me to pay
Speaker 2: tie thing. I want nothing to do with it. So
Speaker 2: you're like, did he gived me recommends those still to
Speaker 2: go to the temple? I was like, why are you
Speaker 2: recommended me still? I'm not following the rules.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, well that's okay, let me go in
Speaker 1: do my little chanting. No, just kidding, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: I just never None of that stuff ever sat well
Speaker 2: with me, the whole recommends the meetings. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm asking me questions. Let me ask you a few
Speaker 2: questions here, buddy, what's uh what are you up to
Speaker 2: in your off time? Let me see your phone, Let
Speaker 2: me see your stuff. You're criticizing me here, Bud, you're
Speaker 2: the judge of you. Yeah, these are the conversations old Bill,
Speaker 2: Bob's nephew and I would have when he's my bishop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're There's definitely some strange things, especially
Speaker 1: where it's never been done anywhere else, but they did
Speaker 1: it here, right, and We know why because the fanamily
Speaker 1: that set it up is Mormons, like the family.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, and these people all stay together
Speaker 2: and it is generational. So on that note, not only
Speaker 2: was Bob Bennett's nephew my bishop in Cincinnati, Ohio, which
Speaker 2: is weird right when you started compining these other factors,
Speaker 2: I also grew up with a Lyman and the paternal
Speaker 2: descendant from Oza Lyman, one of the original twelve apostles
Speaker 2: of Joseph Smith. I also grew up the same age
Speaker 2: group as well from a paternal descendant of uh A.
Speaker 2: Holland was an alma home. One of the was another
Speaker 2: early church leader, Holland. Oh Man, we we had we
Speaker 2: had Beck's. We had Beck's there, we had we had,
Speaker 2: we had all of the family.
Speaker 1: Taylors, Taylor's. Uh did we have Taylor's.
Speaker 2: We might not have had Taylor. So my my Boy
Speaker 2: Scout troop leader's wife was a descendant of Joseph Smith.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So we we had a lot of weird representation the
Speaker 3: Taylor's to the Boy Scouts somehow.
Speaker 2: Well the Mormons. The Mormons comprised like forty percent of
Speaker 2: the Boy Scout you know, membership, so until a few
Speaker 2: years ago when they pulled out. I should play out
Speaker 2: a lot sooner, just like the Boy Scout leaders should have.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so one exactly.
Speaker 2: One of the I had. I had a good time
Speaker 2: in the Boy Scouts and the Mormons. I had no problems.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I've obviously read a lot of problems
Speaker 2: from the Mormon Boy Scouts as well. But where's one
Speaker 2: of the early the first Boy Scout class action lawsuits
Speaker 2: for Diddlan was actually out of you know, the Boy
Speaker 2: Scouts are the root of some of the recruitment allegedly
Speaker 2: in the son of Sam Colet there in Westchester County,
Speaker 2: New York, according to Morty Terry's research and whatnot. Strangely enough,
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like that activity didn't stop at
Speaker 2: the state line, because right across the state line there
Speaker 2: in Ridgefield, Connecticut, where my works in this begin that
Speaker 2: Boy Scout troop there, or Boy Scout Council, and three
Speaker 2: troops under that council. They had a lot of problems.
Speaker 2: And that was that was either the first or the
Speaker 2: second class Act in lawsuit against the Boy Scouts, which
Speaker 2: would ultimately and in the end cause the Mormons to
Speaker 2: depart the boys, despite them having the precise same problems
Speaker 2: within their boy Scout program.
Speaker 1: So bit hypocritical of of course, right, well, isn't that
Speaker 1: exactly that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Always hypocritical? Is I thought? Part of your temple questions?
Speaker 1: Ah huh, just kidding.
Speaker 2: It's kind of their m right, what's the password to
Speaker 2: get in the temple? Hypocrite?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, exactly, come on, it's but I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: if you bring up like even skull and bones to
Speaker 1: their own members, like the prophet currently Russell M. Nelson
Speaker 1: wrote in his own autobiography about it, and they'll tell
Speaker 1: you you're a liar straight to your face.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Why, Oh the official story today, So they're still trying
Speaker 2: to push at least they were for a while right
Speaker 2: that there was no sear stone and hat it was.
Speaker 2: It was glasses with some lenses. They were given to
Speaker 2: Joseph by God or something.
Speaker 1: Right was the story for a while, the breastplate of
Speaker 1: righteousness and the um, much like the Jewish story. And
Speaker 1: I mean we get into you know, Jewish past history.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting that they say, no, these
Speaker 1: people Joseph Smith didn't even know English, but he's studying
Speaker 1: how to how to do all this other stuff. And
Speaker 1: and why right, if he's a dumb farm boy, sure.
Speaker 2: That's right, supers apparently processed church members. Yeah, so Joseph
Speaker 2: Smith could was so well versed in the ancient languages.
Speaker 2: He could read the ancient Egyptian right.
Speaker 1: Well, his uh, his uncle, that helped. And that's a
Speaker 1: good one to start. Dartmouth. Sure knew how to speak
Speaker 1: languages since he was Oh no, it was a cousin,
Speaker 1: professor of languages and one of the first at Dartmouth.
Speaker 1: And then await, his other cousin doctor saved his leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's right at Dartmouth, right.
Speaker 1: A cousin, and then they chased him out of town.
Speaker 1: And that's why Hiram couldn't finish his schooling to become
Speaker 1: basically a priest. To these when people's hear the Indian school,
Speaker 1: I think Indians were there. That's not what it was.
Speaker 1: They were teaching them how to be like priests type thing,
Speaker 1: to go out and teach the Native Americans. It didn't
Speaker 1: have to do with them coming there. And so I
Speaker 1: think it's funny everybody always says, oh, that's not the same,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, well, okay, Nathan, that saved and she
Speaker 1: just calls him in her This is from Lucy Max
Speaker 1: Smith's book Nathan, doctor Nathan. She didn't say Nathan Smith.
Speaker 1: That was his name, right, Yeah, cousin on both sides
Speaker 1: to both of them, the mother and the father. And
Speaker 1: he got chased out of town for body snatching for
Speaker 1: the medical school, and then he went and started Yale's
Speaker 1: medical school. He is the father of Yale's Medical School,
Speaker 1: doctor Nathan Smith. I gotta do a whole episode. I
Speaker 1: should probably have you do that with me, because that
Speaker 1: would be a good one on High Ram or we
Speaker 1: could do it on the year down. I've got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of information about that. I wrote a whole
Speaker 1: like five page essay front and back this.
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll interest.
Speaker 2: All these schools started that way, right. They were all
Speaker 2: religious schools, right for teaching folks how to be priests
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And you know today and today they produce
Speaker 2: things like tampons and men's restrooms. I think that was
Speaker 2: as well. But the dumbest woth women have periods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, dumbest thing ever that they sit there and say,
Speaker 1: these people are uneducated farm people and I'm like, get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here, stop it stop.
Speaker 2: Well, then what do you call this? What do you
Speaker 2: call the administrator that made the call to installed tampons
Speaker 2: andless educated because they seem educated.
Speaker 1: That's a little different, right, That's that's today's ridiculousness that
Speaker 1: we all are in this weird timeline with oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, also have to look at fugels genealogy because I'm
Speaker 2: almost convinced he's got to be like a probably Brad
Speaker 2: or an Oliver Calgary type of character, right, one of
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 1: Right, he's an Elon. He just was given the stuff
Speaker 1: and said here you go, and it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh oh he talked too much ship on Brandon.
Speaker 3: I find interesting. But Brandon too? Is that what that
Speaker 3: that company that he has, it's like a fake it's
Speaker 3: something from a comic book.
Speaker 1: Correct, It's some weird company and he doesn't do anything
Speaker 1: with it. And yes, you're back the company he was
Speaker 1: talking about Brandon's company.
Speaker 3: It's like Adam anti Emiside. I don't know, he's got a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that weird science thing he tries he claims to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a comic book though too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is, dude. And guess where
Speaker 2: he got that idea from? Hal put Off O T
Speaker 2: seven scientillog just an Aviary member UFO U, a p
Speaker 2: psyopic straordinaire recently seen on the Joe Rogan Experience, of course.
Speaker 2: But you know this is the guy from SRI to
Speaker 2: the Aviary in the nineties, to the Stars Academy with
Speaker 2: Tom DeLong. He's just been lying to people without fucking
Speaker 2: alien stuff for decades and he's a high ranking scientologist.
Speaker 2: So when you say, dude names after comic book, I'm
Speaker 2: not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. Again, he does,
Speaker 2: he gets, he gets, he tries to stir up money
Speaker 2: around these inventions and he's never produced anything.
Speaker 1: It's just all Charlatan stuff. You know.
Speaker 3: Well, I find interesting is with him you get like
Speaker 3: that about that, you get that type of name coming
Speaker 3: from like comic book ship. I think it's like the
Speaker 3: metal that was like in Wolverine and everything it or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what that is.
Speaker 3: And then you got and then he got Peter Teal
Speaker 3: with his like what is Lord of the Rings and
Speaker 3: fucking like they both have like very weird show their
Speaker 3: companies off of like fictional ship yop. And they're into
Speaker 3: like weird stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what I was getting at with them being stuck
Speaker 2: in a childlike mentality as well. He's if you look
Speaker 2: at his office, it's all this coming book and movie
Speaker 2: memorabilia stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh he's yeah, obsessed.
Speaker 2: He talks like a teenager. Oh dude, he's built. I'll
Speaker 2: put a link and again in the description with this
Speaker 2: Stephen green Street series from New York Post. But he
Speaker 2: tells green Street he's building a Scooby Doo funhouse for
Speaker 2: Halloween for the kids for Halloween. Just just wild ass
Speaker 2: ship like that, dude, just wild ass.
Speaker 1: Ship, so weird. And he's down in the middle of
Speaker 1: the full.
Speaker 2: Blown haunted house, like a mansion, full one haunted mansion.
Speaker 1: I think we should go.
Speaker 3: Like this lady's look at this lady's asking about Jamatra.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I can't answer that they're telltale,
Speaker 2: but uh, you're talking Nick. He's got a wide range
Speaker 2: of experience in Jamatra.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go check. We actually just had a guest on
Speaker 3: a few days ago live I think, yeah, yeah, we've
Speaker 3: I've even myself have even covered. I think we have
Speaker 3: a few parts at two parts series on Jamachi and Cipher,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it might be like a year or two
Speaker 3: old now, but definitely go check it out if you're
Speaker 3: looking for Jamatia. The cult reject definitely has it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Rejects has lots, lots and lots and lots.
Speaker 1: Next NeXT's been pumping stuff out left and right.
Speaker 3: The should I put out like two years ago. I
Speaker 3: don't even realize these things. I'm I'll tell JJ and
Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh, I didn't even know you did.
Speaker 2: That, And that happens a lot actually ship all right,
Speaker 2: And I've gone to check out some of those, and
Speaker 2: I listened to Jamatra so like I an interest, me,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know much about it, but I
Speaker 2: just know that you you often covered from a lot
Speaker 2: of different angles.
Speaker 3: Yeah even yeah, if you even use it in true crime,
Speaker 3: which I thought was weird. Remember I was saying that
Speaker 3: there's a couple of cases, I think with the Idaho
Speaker 3: for Gilgo and one other one. I was getting a
Speaker 3: lot of the same repeating numbers, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck. Yeah, it was like, this is like
Speaker 3: the code to like mass murder fucking weird. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: well that too. Yeah, yeah, that's the code of the play. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think did An alone by any stretched the imagination.
Speaker 2: In fact, the evidence seems to support his wife as
Speaker 2: more and more involvement than he does.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that if you really think about it,
Speaker 3: as well, evidence of her on the bodies than him,
Speaker 3: if anything right right, and she.
Speaker 2: Has just this questionable alibi. She's like, oh, no, I
Speaker 2: was out of town. I did outtown stuff. And then
Speaker 2: remember John Reagan, his assistant followed up on that, and
Speaker 2: that story was bullshit. Remember yeah, they got evidence from
Speaker 2: that hotel to that story was bullshit. Yeh, I say
Speaker 2: his assistant Lena, and you know, they were both very
Speaker 2: far more knowledgeable than us in that case. But we
Speaker 2: should have the money again to having our discussion.
Speaker 3: Yo, you know what, you know what sucks. He wanted
Speaker 3: to do another press conference and he was gonna have
Speaker 3: me come down and filming, and I had already left New.
Speaker 2: York, and I was like, oh that does suck, man.
Speaker 3: Yo. They literally had hit me up and asked me
Speaker 3: to do that. I was like fuck. I was like yo,
Speaker 3: because that ship would have made Channel twelve news. It
Speaker 3: always does whatever egos on that. I mean that would
Speaker 3: have been been provided, yeah, I mean provided by the
Speaker 3: occult reach that would have been on the bottom. I
Speaker 3: would have made sure that was Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Right Now we should think back up with them to
Speaker 2: see they got any updates, because I know, well recently
Speaker 2: in that case, it's been finally made public that authorm labs.
Speaker 2: The same folks at the root of the Brian Coberger
Speaker 2: questionable sheath DNA touch DNA is the folks who are
Speaker 2: involved with identifying Yearman vias similar touch DNA off of
Speaker 2: a piece of pizza.
Speaker 3: So I have all the questions about that, and then
Speaker 3: they uses bullshit man.
Speaker 2: Wife's hairs, right, what's that, Heidi?
Speaker 1: Of course it was a pizza. Of course it was
Speaker 1: a pizza.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this story of the humor.
Speaker 1: No, But I'm just dissecting the situation and saying that
Speaker 1: seems weird.
Speaker 2: You have an accurate assessment, man, of the circumstances we're discussing,
Speaker 2: because if I were to allow the details, you'd be like,
Speaker 2: that's even more suspect than my initial net Like my
Speaker 2: initial suspicion, it's very suspect. The whole the way this
Speaker 2: whole thing went down and the way they landed on
Speaker 2: the student and the chief of police who got fired.
Speaker 2: He's involved in ostensibly snuff porn, but definitely for snuff films,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, definitely snuff films and child porn allegedly, but
Speaker 2: definitely deeply involved in this prostitution network, in some sort
Speaker 2: of pornography filming. This crackhead kicked in his car one
Speaker 2: day one night of his of his uh you know,
Speaker 2: unmarked s UV and solo duffel bag. They looked at
Speaker 2: crackhead over so bad. They beat that dude senseless.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, listen, I think that whole thing is a
Speaker 3: sigh of I think. I mean, I think a lot
Speaker 3: of it's a bullshit story, like the way they're presenting it,
Speaker 3: the way that they're even cash now you know what
Speaker 3: it sounds like.
Speaker 2: There you go, That's what that was.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 2: That's a good point in my summary where I was
Speaker 2: going into a bullshit story the way because there's no
Speaker 2: way you have this this police chief dude, it's all
Speaker 2: all this other shady stuff going on, and Huerman's the
Speaker 2: only guy and you have almost no evidence. Again stuff
Speaker 2: for pizza cross you you want to this.
Speaker 3: This is how I look at it.
Speaker 1: I know this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be taking it, taking it out there. But
Speaker 3: and if I was, if I was to pull it up,
Speaker 3: I don't want to. Maybe I'll spend the time and
Speaker 3: show it before we end the show, so it's not crazy.
Speaker 3: When I talk about the optic nerve. It does like
Speaker 3: I said, it looks like a penis or a dick
Speaker 3: kind of. And they show you when it gets cut
Speaker 3: down the middle what it looks like that way, and
Speaker 3: it looks like a fucking wheel or a goddamn fucking
Speaker 3: pizza pie. It looks like a pizza pie. And that
Speaker 3: hangs right into the It's basically a cup in the
Speaker 3: back of your eye that has the blood in there,
Speaker 3: and you have this optic nerve that's hanging in there.
Speaker 3: Now think about it. It's like this story starts off
Speaker 3: the only reason we know Hureman is because of this
Speaker 3: pizza box, and then there's a bunch of murder and
Speaker 3: it all ends up with people being buried at the beach.
Speaker 3: So now you have the blood with the pizza. And
Speaker 3: then at the beginning of the eye where you see
Speaker 3: everything is water and sand kind of, so this to
Speaker 3: me is just like you even see like the whole
Speaker 3: progression of like how the crimes ended and where. I
Speaker 3: don't know. It's just there was too much weird shit
Speaker 3: without crime. Even with the Jamatra, there was too many
Speaker 3: things that matched up. There was even things with him
Speaker 3: and BTK that match and BTK claimed that he was
Speaker 3: a copycat.
Speaker 1: Why is there always homeless guys? Even at JFK, Like
Speaker 1: there was the Three Tramps, right, there's always some homeless yeah,
Speaker 1: blamed you.
Speaker 3: There was tons of things. So coming out of the
Speaker 3: Book of the Lies too, there was a beaches, there's
Speaker 3: an oyster Bay. It was weird shit. It's weird shit.
Speaker 2: And in the Three Tramps, I think in the JFK situation,
Speaker 2: at least in the King killed thirty three cents, those
Speaker 2: are representative of Masonic focal or correct, right, And then they.
Speaker 1: Never they they just basically got them out of there.
Speaker 1: That was all they did. Like it was just they
Speaker 1: were like just helping walk it out.
Speaker 2: How do they walk through the Masonic temple there and
Speaker 2: deallyally dealis believe at one point time and then.
Speaker 1: They're like go get go get the the tramps and
Speaker 1: then they picked them up and then that was all
Speaker 1: you ever heard and it was done. Never heard about
Speaker 1: that again.
Speaker 2: That was all so the side of the original Massonic
Speaker 2: College in Texas. The first lodge was there in Dealey Plaza.
Speaker 1: That's so weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone involved, Mason, there's a lot of my sound like,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of I think that is a strong
Speaker 2: argument to me, that's a very Masonic ritual. Whatever happened there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably whatever the outcome was right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As far as uh gil Go Beach situation, Nick who
Speaker 2: delivered that sand to the area that helped bury these bodies.
Speaker 3: They remember that. I was like, Yo, don't even tell me.
Speaker 3: This is another thing that I've I've theorized that I
Speaker 3: do think it's quite possible. I think the Rotary Club
Speaker 3: might be involved with some of the Ladybird Lake things.
Speaker 3: And then somehow I think when I was looking them up,
Speaker 3: something popped up and I was like, Yo, they were
Speaker 3: at gill Go Beach. And when I looked into it,
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, they're the ones who are charge
Speaker 3: of standing gil Go Beach.
Speaker 1: They literally buried these bodies the rot.
Speaker 3: I was just like, yo, what's the odds of the Like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Check their rosters for some Mormons, I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they have this? Is there a strong Mormon
Speaker 2: presence in in in around New York City.
Speaker 1: I couldn't just the Rotary Club though, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like I feel like that out there.
Speaker 1: Is probably.
Speaker 3: Oh and another thing too about the Rotary Club. They
Speaker 3: all have boats. Mm hmm. So that's like another thing too.
Speaker 3: That's why I think they might have been that Lady
Speaker 3: Bird Lake, because it's like, if you're just out in
Speaker 3: the water looking like the Rotary Club, then you're you.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I haven't met a lot of Mormons out there.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time out in like Smithtown
Speaker 2: and Komak and that reason Ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're up on my That was real close to
Speaker 3: my hood, man.
Speaker 2: You know, not a Yeah, my dude's wife is from
Speaker 2: Komac and then then they moved over to Smithtown at
Speaker 2: one point. But yeah, he was a he was an
Speaker 2: Air Force He was Air Force cop with me, but
Speaker 2: then he was an Air Force recruiter for years and
Speaker 2: then he he's a state police out there now, has
Speaker 2: been for years. Yeah, I never really a lot of
Speaker 2: he's and he's involved in a lot of organizations, you know,
Speaker 2: Elks think he's an Elks guy or something, maybe you
Speaker 2: know whatever in the FOP, you know, whatever else he
Speaker 2: could be whoever else knows. But I'm saying everyone in
Speaker 2: those organizations that he's involved with seemed to be Jewish.
Speaker 2: For Italian, I never really encountered a lot of Mormons
Speaker 2: out on my island.
Speaker 1: Hm hm.
Speaker 3: You know. Then you have the Lion's Club that I
Speaker 3: think is connected with them. Oh yeah, they're always like
Speaker 3: a few walks away. The Lions Club is always a
Speaker 3: few walks away from a fucking rotary. Almost almost all
Speaker 3: the time they're right near each other. And then damn,
Speaker 3: I find interesting. What do they do? Its like a
Speaker 3: thing to give back to the community. They do ie
Speaker 3: eye exams, Like how a colt.
Speaker 2: We know some Lions Club folks that are doing some
Speaker 2: question blocks heavities right now.
Speaker 3: Kathy my Butt.
Speaker 2: Lays Tall County Corner. Kathy my Butt the the Lions Club.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I feel like she has some
Speaker 2: gremlins behind her because she's kind of gremlin herself.
Speaker 3: Evil kremlin, you know, isn't she hasn't she even like
Speaker 3: just words that have come out of her mouth makes
Speaker 3: the case look shady.
Speaker 2: Oh dude. They had to tell her to shut up
Speaker 2: because she and the mayor were making all sorts of
Speaker 2: statements in the beginning. You're like, no, these are contrary
Speaker 2: to what our narrative is, So I shut her mouth.
Speaker 3: At one point it was just like, like I think
Speaker 3: she was even like, well, I don't know if there
Speaker 3: was stabs or like, I think the whole stab was scrited, Like,
Speaker 3: wasn't she even like mind fucking that kind of.
Speaker 2: She changed the time. Initially it was between three and four,
Speaker 2: and then you know, and then it's obviously almost four
Speaker 2: thirty later by the time you know, it's everything she
Speaker 2: said is a mess. But Hoey's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: Mormon stuff going on here. This this muppet here's not
Speaker 2: all wow, there's a lot of Mormon stuff in the situation.
Speaker 2: And strangely enough, did you know this is only the
Speaker 2: second Mormon governor of the state of Idaho?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That was my reaction as well. I was like, wait
Speaker 2: a second, I think the first one was by accident.
Speaker 1: It should be a lot I mean, right, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: growing up, I grew up there when I was young
Speaker 1: until I was like twelve, but it was all right,
Speaker 1: a lot moremon yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of Congressional, a lot of State House in
Speaker 2: Congress representation Mormon stuff. But yeah, the I think was
Speaker 2: the first governor was seventy eight. Maybe he the governor
Speaker 2: went to they got as the new US Senator. So
Speaker 2: the lieutenant governor who was a Mormon and not the
Speaker 2: governor wasn't But lieutenant governor was a Mormon, so that
Speaker 2: he was, but he wasn't elected. So I think this
Speaker 2: guy's the first elected Mormon governor. Oh, brat. And then
Speaker 2: Brad Little is that a different governor? That's not that's
Speaker 2: a different governor, Idaho governor. No, it's Brad a Little Okay,
Speaker 2: I got too many names, too many names. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: the the other Brad Little is a I think he's
Speaker 2: the first elected governor Mormon and Idaho. And then they
Speaker 2: have an attorney general right now, it's also a governor's
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, also a Mormon. Right, so he's the one
Speaker 2: who's really behind the prosecution in this case. He's got
Speaker 2: two deputy attorney generals that are that are they got
Speaker 2: their hands up the local prosecutor muppet, you know, butts
Speaker 2: making the mouse move right, But that's who's prosecuting this Coburger.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot and there's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: Mormon stuff involved in the case. So there's an infamous
Speaker 2: character I called the Gooch's.
Speaker 1: Joking about that. What is he talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, her name is her name is Victoria Gooch. She's
Speaker 2: the Idaho State Police detective. She plays the most important
Speaker 2: roles in all of the case, but no one knew
Speaker 2: about that for two years because of all the sealed documents. Right,
Speaker 2: So she's doing the key interview with the surviving roommate
Speaker 2: that's using the prosecution of Coburger. She's doing the investigation
Speaker 2: allegedly into the Coburger DNA, and allegedly she's the one
Speaker 2: who transports that DNA to that Authorn labs down in Texas.
Speaker 2: So she plays a key role. Her husband's deeply pioneering Mormon,
Speaker 2: but she's actually connected. She's actually the daughter of a
Speaker 2: military US Army intelligence officer who was the protege of
Speaker 2: Colonel Paul Tait, who, by Goucha's own admission, it seems
Speaker 2: her father went under cover with Colonel his boss Paul
Speaker 2: Tait into the hippie movement circa nineteen seventy to investigate
Speaker 2: his daughter Sharon Tate's murder by the Manson.
Speaker 1: Fans oh Man from Solely Cow big.
Speaker 2: Time, and that surviving roommate that using the prosecution. He's
Speaker 2: also from a pioneering Mormon family and her pioneering Mormon
Speaker 2: Mortensen's actually pioneered across the US with the Guches. They
Speaker 2: crossed pass in Nebraska. So years later, Yeah, we lost
Speaker 2: to JJ come back.
Speaker 1: He's like stuck there you are? Yes, isn't that wild?
Speaker 2: Though, one hundred and fifty years apart, we have these
Speaker 2: pioneering Mormon families involved in the same weird parapolitical event today. Right,
Speaker 2: we knew each other in eighteen fifty six in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that with like the Salem witch Trials. I'm
Speaker 3: sure at this point too. Oh dude, No, I just
Speaker 3: don't even know from Ronn. He's like, Yo, eventually, like
Speaker 3: those two families ended up like marrying and stuff. But
Speaker 3: it's like, I thought you both had each other.
Speaker 1: The Salem Salem witch Trials. Joseph's grandpa had somebody hung
Speaker 1: that he's involved.
Speaker 2: Have you heard the name Mary Parsons?
Speaker 1: Yes, isn't it her isn't that her Jack that he hung.
Speaker 2: Jack Parson's fourth grade grandmother who was accused of being
Speaker 2: a witch but acquitted.
Speaker 3: You know, I should you not? When I had heard
Speaker 3: that Parsons last name, I swear, I was like, no,
Speaker 3: there's no way that's yeah. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 3: maybe it's too much of a coincidence, like I did
Speaker 3: the last name of just saying that it's too common
Speaker 3: maybe back then, and I was.
Speaker 2: Just a little too on the nose, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was just.
Speaker 3: Like that's too weird. That couldn't happen. Oh man, I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh that it's not that easy, Like I couldn't just
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I just happened to guess that it
Speaker 3: was right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So her her son was I believe it. I
Speaker 2: think it was her son or her grandson. It was
Speaker 2: her her grandson Parsons, No, it was her son was
Speaker 2: a captain in the in the Massachusetts chapter of the
Speaker 2: Side of Cincinnati. So it seems like Parsons and only
Speaker 2: has society heritage. She's got uh that that society heritage
Speaker 2: mother's uh happens to be well at least accused of
Speaker 2: being a witch. Right, And I don't know enough about
Speaker 2: the Salem story to know how involved she was there.
Speaker 2: But I mean, isn't it odd?
Speaker 1: Right? And uh Sarah so Mary Eastye and Sarah Wild's
Speaker 1: were two women that were hung and they were accused
Speaker 1: by Joseph's great grandfather, Samuel Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they said, and they got all they got marked.
Speaker 2: What are we talking here?
Speaker 1: Gone?
Speaker 2: What are we talking like burn at the steak? Well
Speaker 2: we we go on here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hung.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And so they were doing some Monty Pythons style, which
Speaker 2: you know there in the water she flowts, she's she's wish.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, this was yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean they also had other people I guess
Speaker 1: that were in there. They say, check the LDS databases
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the George Bush Bushes, George
Speaker 2: number one, number two, they're one of their four mothers.
Speaker 2: Bush was accused of being a witch.
Speaker 1: M Maybe she was.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was saying, I mean, well, I
Speaker 2: think it goes for for all these people, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, maybe they were maybe they were onto something.
Speaker 1: I think methinks they protest too much. And they were
Speaker 1: the ones that were doing this stuff and they hung
Speaker 1: with people that knew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whatever was going on there,
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of just you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of subterfuge. Whatever is going on there rightwise
Speaker 2: cut Dry's history has made it out to be.
Speaker 1: It's wild. Yeah, that's for sure. Who even knows. Well
Speaker 1: we kN roads tonight that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, we go. It wasn't what I was expecting.
Speaker 2: It was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, still way fun we have we had a little
Speaker 1: yeah probably yeah.
Speaker 2: Full blown of cult rejects Fridays. Yeah, absolutely, I think
Speaker 2: folks enjoying here. From looking at the chat, I was
Speaker 2: able to keep up tonight, and as my shows, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, maintain a narrative of my brain home.
Speaker 2: Like I can't do that and follow the chats on
Speaker 2: the Fridays.
Speaker 1: It is hard, that's hard to make sure. Yeah. Nice.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the folks with chat there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing time, Like always awesome.
Speaker 2: No, we appreciate joining us here. You have a great conversation.
Speaker 2: I always enjoy the I was enjoyed talking Mormon and
Speaker 2: other parapolitical events. Whether you got some uh some great
Speaker 2: stuff over there at the Unfiltered rays for sure. I
Speaker 2: just listened to your episode with Jim the Ninja Fellow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love, thoroughly enjoyed that, thoroughly enjoyed that show.
Speaker 1: He's gone for a minute, right, isn't he out of
Speaker 1: town for a bit?
Speaker 2: I think he's back on the map, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: message to think saying he's getting on a plane or something,
Speaker 2: right like that?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, checking out as great. Sorry, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, Nick and j J are great. To check
Speaker 1: out Jin's show. I always have fun with you guys.
Speaker 2: Great show. No appreciate it, No, for sure, that was
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed your your Jen. Jen's always h blowing
Speaker 2: my brain hall with all sorts of you know, strange
Speaker 2: and ideas like that show, the show you're talking about
Speaker 2: with Greg Little that's coming out like, yeah, Greg Little, stunned. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone asked me such great questions or commentary.
Speaker 2: And the forty plus years of doing interviews, I'm like,
Speaker 2: only ship Chin, that's a.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fu?
Speaker 1: I know? That was good?
Speaker 3: That was that was real. Definitely got to get at
Speaker 3: some point.
Speaker 2: Oh, Greg lit, it was great. I thoroughly enjoyed every
Speaker 2: every minute of that show that was. It was fantastic,
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I had a double book to time there
Speaker 2: and I had to part there at the end, near
Speaker 2: the end. But yeah, I certainly his ideas of the
Speaker 2: adena the giant human skeletons of the Diana Mountains is
Speaker 2: the Adeena and Elite theory.
Speaker 1: I really liked that theory. Yes, what he's put together there.
Speaker 1: I think me and you were both on on that
Speaker 1: same wavelength at the same time. That was such a
Speaker 1: good show.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: I was I. I actually didn't know he was all
Speaker 1: about Edgar U Casey, and I was just.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god. That surprised me. Actually really, yeah,
Speaker 3: well that was fun.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I super good.
Speaker 3: Oh. I think that's because of one of his books.
Speaker 3: I think Edgar Casey has even mentioned in the name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in the Edgar Casey Society. That was crazy
Speaker 1: and his wife helps run it. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: JJ's back, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, uh, that's great stuff. I'm actually gonna I
Speaker 2: look for to listen to that, even though I feel
Speaker 2: like I just listened to it already, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: listen to it again because Greg little at a lot
Speaker 2: of great commentary in there from Greg Little, I mean everybody,
Speaker 2: the whole the whole panel again, Jen, some of his
Speaker 2: commentary again left Greg Little speech listen with the compliment
Speaker 2: of saying that was the best questions and commentary and
Speaker 2: forty plus years of interviews, so it's that's amazing. Definitely
Speaker 2: check that one out if you like mount stuff, folks
Speaker 2: of the interwebs, check that one out.
Speaker 1: Sure awesome, Definitely, Well, thanks so much you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate, appreciate Nick and Haughty both your aalst
Speaker 2: time in convo. And you got any closing statements for
Speaker 2: us there Hot you can plug anything you need to
Speaker 2: have any any closing statements on tonight's convo.
Speaker 1: I had a great time. I just thought this was
Speaker 1: fun and went everywhere it needed to go. I love
Speaker 1: being a part of the Cult Rejects. I found my
Speaker 1: home and I'm so grateful and I'm grateful to all
Speaker 1: of you, so thank you so much. Yes, and check
Speaker 1: out the Unfiltered Rise, check out the Occult Rejects, check
Speaker 1: out the Occult Rejects Institute.
Speaker 2: And yeah, oh yeah, for sure, thank you oddie, Nick,
Speaker 2: Do you uh appreciate time has always Sir co host
Speaker 2: of Fridays here and uh any, yeah, we we even
Speaker 2: if we adapt and overcome, we or even when our
Speaker 2: guests uh do not maintain the schedule and Phil to
Speaker 2: a pure hoof. Hopefully we can get him on in
Speaker 2: the future. He's too busy racing demons tonight.
Speaker 3: So there we got that's what he's doing. He's a
Speaker 3: racing demons. We are makeing. Unfortunately he's out there with
Speaker 3: his little stabbing motherfuckers out there. I guess real quick.
Speaker 3: I would like to plug it this time. I have
Speaker 3: a correct idle. Last week, I screwed it up. This
Speaker 3: Monday the Cult Rejects Live with Krickle. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: think at two o'clock. Yes, we do have the coding
Speaker 3: Brittany tomorrow morning, eleven in the morning. We're doing an
Speaker 3: early one there. Yeah, we got the coding celebrities coming.
Speaker 2: On eleven eleven PSC perhaps no Am E s t. Yeah,
Speaker 2: damn okay, let's try and buy some extra time in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we got her coming on. Interesting thing is
Speaker 3: is that she's actually even gotten in touch with somebody
Speaker 3: that was even friends with Britney Spears and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean you see the pictures and her. Yeah they did.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting this guy was. Even if I would
Speaker 3: have looked at the account the guy followed me, Actually,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have looked at his account. He even has
Speaker 3: pictures of him with Michael Jackson, so like this' who
Speaker 3: knows who knows? Switch with this guy?
Speaker 2: But but I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she did make connections with him, and she's
Speaker 3: had him on his podcast and she's she's de coodes
Speaker 3: like a lot of Britney's weird posts, so she's trying
Speaker 3: to so I think a lot of them are really
Speaker 3: bugged out and very interesting where she goes with him.
Speaker 3: So I think it will be a fun one if
Speaker 3: people can catch that tomorrow morning. Definitely interesting. It'd be
Speaker 3: a good waken big for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there we go.
Speaker 3: I keep screwing you up when.
Speaker 2: No it's I mean, we're under tornado. So it's it's
Speaker 2: been a wild So luckily it's done better than I expected.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna make some comment about leave Britney alone,
Speaker 2: but now it's the time has passed. But I'll look
Speaker 2: forward to the conversation.
Speaker 1: Hell we see you guys, and and.
Speaker 2: Uh Operation GCD, Like I said, back to the Future
Speaker 2: a cold message Eric View coming Wednesday. This coming Wednesday
Speaker 2: at eight pm Eastern time, and Hei do you hope
Speaker 2: you can join us Jen, Jen and fellow Colt reject
Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach there. Julia will be joining myself and Nick
Speaker 2: on the review. Should be a great conversation. I one
Speaker 2: of my fad I mean again, still one of my
Speaker 2: first movies today. I think it's uh. Films from the
Speaker 2: eighties don't play. I think it still plays, you know,
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Speaker 2: as well. So I appreciate everyone's time and appreciate your
Speaker 2: time in the conversation there in Nick Nightie of course