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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Howdy, folks, your host double J back here, host of

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<v Speaker 2>Operation g c D and uh, perhaps more notably not

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president. Of course, we are also welcomed in

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<v Speaker 2>the introduction by my old stocker buffalo Jared revisa multi

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<v Speaker 2>state homicidal maniac and probably mind control killer. Ye, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to co host here tonight, Nick Riding stir rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your cult rejects.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell, yeah, of course I was a forward to the

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<v Speaker 3>show doing very well, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I apologize to the folks of the interwebs here

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<v Speaker 2>on our delays because we were expecting another guest this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're respecting a guest this evening and sadly did not

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<v Speaker 2>did not happen. But we have a special co Hosteon

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<v Speaker 2>hosted the Unwilthy Rise podcast and fellow occult reject. Welcome Heidi.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Glad we get a chat. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're minus what's that? Even though we're minus one,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll still make it fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, I'm looking forward to getting into some

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<v Speaker 2>of those subjects. I think we're going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>detour from our guest subjects tonight. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>started off, Nick, do you have any thing you're working

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<v Speaker 2>on over there at the Occult Rejects and even basicing

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple of projects.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for myself that I'm working on which will

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<v Speaker 3>be probably coming out like I don't a month, and

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<v Speaker 3>I have a Jacob Boem I'm doing a solo show

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<v Speaker 3>on that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, he was like a cult.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteen hundred, fifteen sixty, fifteen hundreds. He's an older one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he was. I mean, I wouldn't say he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who was originally supposedly into the occult. It was

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<v Speaker 3>more or less that he had some like mystical experience

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<v Speaker 3>that like blew his mind and that's what kind of

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<v Speaker 3>brought him into the occult. So it's, uh, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like seeing I guess, like the non magician

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<v Speaker 3>at for you know, a regular person who happened to

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<v Speaker 3>have an experience that got into the stuff different.

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<v Speaker 2>So he wasn't a part of any magical or her medical.

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<v Speaker 3>There are there are some theories that I, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>put in there for myself. I don't want to spoil it,

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<v Speaker 3>that I did wonder if maybe he was because there's

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<v Speaker 3>some identical things with other orders at the time. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but uh, I don't know with him too,

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<v Speaker 3>extremely extremely Bible based as well. He's very big into

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<v Speaker 3>like Genesis too. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, So it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just another interesting character that he inspired a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>other occults that came after him that inspired like major

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<v Speaker 3>uh he did also inspire like Marsilio Ficino, I covered him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Anthonysius Kircher. Possibly. There's a couple of people

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<v Speaker 3>that I know that I haven't. Oh, Rudolf, he definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>Helena Blovotski.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was it was that I cut out over

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<v Speaker 2>here what we were saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He's inspired Rudolph Plovotsky. A whole bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, Madam Bovotsky, So who's Rudolph.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, Rudolph, I'm sorry, Rudolf Steiner and Madam Blovotski.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there we go. I was gonna say, do they

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<v Speaker 2>have a kid they combined have a kid?

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<v Speaker 1>There?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he did? Yeah, who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It will definitely be definitely all It's gonna be layered

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<v Speaker 3>with tons of visuals too. I highly suggest to watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably created about over two hundred images for this

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<v Speaker 3>fucking show, so please watch it. Yeah, I got that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then next week, just real quick to throw that

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<v Speaker 3>out there, we got a cult architect, Rudolf stein Up

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<v Speaker 3>part two dropping, and Friday we do have the Mound

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<v Speaker 3>Builders with Gregory Little finally dropping on my end that

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<v Speaker 3>is coming out. And then after that, the week after that,

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<v Speaker 3>I got the first solo of the shows I'm starting doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna start doing. I got Robert Flood alchemist and physician.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely check that out when it drops. And that's a

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<v Speaker 3>full like four k old visuals too. I highly suggest

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<v Speaker 3>to check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, Yes, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, that's awesome. Yeah, that's good to hear. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to listen to more of that a cult

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<v Speaker 2>series because that that character, if he's influential on Steiner

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<v Speaker 2>and Bovotski. I mean, that's all these ancient alien cargo

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<v Speaker 2>cults kind of yield from their those ideas and theologies.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, he doesn't talk about aliens, so it's like, where

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck did they pull that out of the restaurant? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. Well, I I appreciate you joining us at your game,

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<v Speaker 2>ma'am as our now our co host slash guest on Fridays.

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<v Speaker 2>You're dual hated this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm excited about it. Heck yeah, I've been going

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<v Speaker 1>down the Gemstone Files, mister Onnassas Opal Files. I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>crazy on that thing, and my brain's all over the

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<v Speaker 1>nice Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a lot of this stuff we've been covering

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<v Speaker 2>on the Mormon Mafia series on the Occult Rejects, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm getting ready to drop that one on the

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<v Speaker 1>Occult Rejects pretty soon. It's going to be probably about

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<v Speaker 1>a week and a half and it'll be ready with Onassis.

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<v Speaker 1>So daughter died in the bathtub at thirty seven from

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<v Speaker 1>diet pills. Sure she did.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Sure, that's another rule right with TICLT type situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I saw the bathtub. I went, yeah, Okay, I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely learned a number despite my knowledge and interest in

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<v Speaker 2>Mormon business and Mormon history and parapolitics related to then

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<v Speaker 2>my I've certainly learned a number of things there from

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<v Speaker 2>from joining in and providing commentary on your series. There

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<v Speaker 2>already so some great stuff. I highly recommend folks to

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<v Speaker 2>check out, especially when I discovered these connection include and

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<v Speaker 2>more jack up you know, uh Jackie Kennedy right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>back to childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle uncle George.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, yeah, born born to a hereditary member of

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<v Speaker 2>the French chapter of the Society, Right, Society of the Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, absolutely was, and I was shocked at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you, once you opened up the Society of Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on me, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other level. Never stop, never stops.

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<v Speaker 2>No, It's awesome because I definitely appreciate you bringing the

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<v Speaker 2>boo Via guy to my attention because I've recently been

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<v Speaker 2>real deep and trying to understand the French chapter. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wasn't looking at him and I had

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<v Speaker 2>no knowledge of that, but I was already in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of looking at, you know, all of his friends.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good, sounds good. Are you doing something on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gotten to the point where the society Heidi with,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with these French families, if it's a it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a French surname, it's commonplace, like it's new

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<v Speaker 2>in American history or culture. Is you know, a household

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<v Speaker 2>name of some regard and then they're a member of

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<v Speaker 2>the Society of the Cincinnati be at the Bouvier's, the Bonapartes,

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<v Speaker 2>the DuPonts. I recently discovered Nola Booths like shil Lah Booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm not saying he's a member, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>little boof membership in the French chapter of the Society,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, largely focused around New Orleans and around the

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<v Speaker 2>more of eighteen twelve was when they all were coming

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<v Speaker 2>over here, you know, proceeding that and during that including

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<v Speaker 2>is which relative ken folk of the new Pope, the

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<v Speaker 2>new American Pope?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I mean a pope from Chicago, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean yeah with French Protestant. Yeah yeah, how's that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>How's how's a French Protestant pope from Chicago get get

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<v Speaker 2>get appointed in Rome? But we'll see how that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I definitely definitely appreciate looking you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>things you brought up with the Mormon stuff in the

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<v Speaker 2>Society of Cincinnati stuff, that's awesome. I'll just iud recommend

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<v Speaker 2>folks check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>That series, Thank you, thank you. It'll be on the

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<v Speaker 1>occult Rejects. It'll be coming up soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited, and we're doing another part right when we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do another another part in the series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that'll be the on NASA as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as he's been waiting on my all my research.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm on my fourth book. I think at

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<v Speaker 1>this point I'm on NASA stout. I'm ready to write it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's fascinating, honestly, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Yeah, anything anything else you're working on the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>podcast that you'd like to let folks know about here?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yes, Yes, Robbie Marx has been on. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon's Temple series and I am doing the third installment

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<v Speaker 1>of that next week on recording and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>coming up soon. So yeah, awesome Mormon interjection of the

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon's Temple. There, he's let me interfere with his research

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<v Speaker 1>in CORALI many things. Yeah, on accident, I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be listening, and then I just you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love seeing Robbie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I enjoyed Robbie's inside. He's got some unique insight

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yeah. The Occult reject series that he did with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick is why I asked him, because I said that

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<v Speaker 1>was freaking amazing. I just can't. I'm like, I have

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a serious He brings a lot of research

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<v Speaker 3>when he does cover a topic, like he has like

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<v Speaker 3>pages and page and some pages. Books.

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<v Speaker 1>He had books. Yeah, it was like full books. His writing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's writing one now that's almost done. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>he said when he does, he's going to come on

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<v Speaker 3>the show and promote it. I think you said he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to give like a chapter to the website

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<v Speaker 3>that's like a sample people to check.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be awesome. Hell yeah, nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to that. And then we're doing joining

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<v Speaker 2>you and Tim from sixth Century Podcast here next to

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<v Speaker 2>Believe next week talking to Mormon Mormon in society of

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and for that one weird Mormon lay lines. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out yeah Mormon lay lines. Yeah. No, Tim's I

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<v Speaker 2>like Tim. He's a sharp to We had him on

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago. Folks to check out that show

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fridays. Myself, Nick and Uh and Tim from

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth Century Podcast. Don't be looking forward to that

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<v Speaker 2>one for sure. And I don't know what I'm working

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<v Speaker 2>on Operation GCD. Let me think about that for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot I knew something was going on. Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a doing Occult and Arresto cheric review with

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<v Speaker 2>the on back to the future, Nick Jan and the

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<v Speaker 2>Cosmic Peach.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Biff, like hiram Abiff you're gonna talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's a lot of Masonic symbolism in that,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, isn't there. You're You're certainly welcome to join

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<v Speaker 2>us if you if you'd like to be available on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, I check out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably a little more knowledgable and the

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<v Speaker 2>Masonic stuff than I am, but I am familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>some of that Masonic symbolism in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome this coming Wednesday, Yeah, yes, mallam okay, I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>at it when I get off of here. That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch it then I'm starting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go ahead, Nick was, I'm going to watch it

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<v Speaker 3>again over the weekend and take more notes. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I haven't watched Yeah, that's my that's my

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<v Speaker 2>probably watch it twice for the for the show. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it hundreds of seen it hundreds of times and really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's still still I still enjoy the film. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the it's an exciting storyline, it's well written.

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the well things I think that has

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<v Speaker 1>Right time time travel. Anytime you make time travel with

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to sleep with his mom. Yeah, it's a cultic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the last time when I watched it, I was

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<v Speaker 3>about the way I said it, but like I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like a little freaky, like the mother was

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just I believe the proper nomenclature for that

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<v Speaker 3>Guess, like in the movie, you know you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>it seem however, but like if that was real life,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree, man, I totally agree. It's a it's again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a. I like the film on its face

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<v Speaker 2>when it's got dark undertones, and especially if you listen

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<v Speaker 2>Christpin Glover, Yeah, folks check that out on Onesday Operate

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<v Speaker 2>GCD Live this Sunday, but the following Sunday, on the

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<v Speaker 2>a pm Eastern time on Patreon. So I'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>so in my social media. So I'm gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of true crime and high weirdness events and

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<v Speaker 2>incidents that I've encountered in my adventures, not the least

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<v Speaker 2>of which is Robert the Doll, which I believe you

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<v Speaker 2>all were talking about there night on Headless's mail Bag

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<v Speaker 2>of Saul. Yes, yes, so that's always a that's always

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<v Speaker 2>a fun tale. No, so, yeah, definitely check that's stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>But we, uh, we had a few topics on on

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to take a detour and uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you just published the episode recently, right, the Occult

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I think that was probably two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, yeah, that was a good that was I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a really I enjoyed the conversation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Miguel Connor seems like a real nice there. He's done

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<v Speaker 2>some good research there into the uh, the occult interests

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<v Speaker 2>of Elvis Presley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it was more than I knew, So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it definitely was. Yeah. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting as well. He's working on David Bowie no too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be so good. That's gonna be a good

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<v Speaker 1>one because he's so outward about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, but definitely with that Elvis stuff. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean again, like listen, I mean I get, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people look at things differently. I still be entertained to

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<v Speaker 3>cover Elvis, so just in a different one like than

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<v Speaker 3>Miguel did. Yeah. I think it was you know, highly

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<v Speaker 3>suspective you know, other things, yeah there or other agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, Yeah that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but it was just like now, just like

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<v Speaker 3>knowing how much of occultism that was involved with that

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<v Speaker 3>guy and how open he kind of was to an

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<v Speaker 3>extent totally just makes things so much different now with

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<v Speaker 3>that dude, my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, it's hard to say if he was

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<v Speaker 1>like real or like you said, if he's putting on

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<v Speaker 1>a show for a cover up for certain you know things,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or is he just you know they are like uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to influence people through the music. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's quite obvious he was able to.

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<v Speaker 1>So, oh for sure, definitely definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm breaking up here, but were you saying, Nick, that

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<v Speaker 2>that Elvis was deeper into intelligence? Sagancies that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that, Yeah, that's just my and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he was into something with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's in deep, dude, he's in the all.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a bad He was a badge junkie. So

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hold badges everywhere, right, So when I

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<v Speaker 2>when I brought that up to Miguil, I wasn't expecting

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lot of pushback because to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like intel, you know, spook activity goes hand in

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<v Speaker 2>hand with occultism. From John Dita, I was just going

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<v Speaker 2>to early to you know.

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<v Speaker 3>To Elvis, right the loves occultists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then look at major CIA operations officer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Copeland, he was a scientologist. He even goes the

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<v Speaker 2>sun started MTV.

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<v Speaker 1>Even going back to uh, Charles Charles Brace who started

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<v Speaker 1>the Orphan Trains, you know, Charles Loring Brace. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>got some pushback from somebody on a recent show, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said he wasn't in he wasn't a freemason, he

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<v Speaker 1>was this and this, And I said, no, I'm gonna look.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he was in something not not a freemason,

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<v Speaker 1>in an occultic secret order that he wouldn't even let

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<v Speaker 1>out what it was, period dot. And he was a spy.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't look at that, they said, goes clear back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I apologizes to keep cutting out here, I missed

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<v Speaker 2>all that.

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<v Speaker 1>that started the Orphan Trains. He was a spy and

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<v Speaker 1>so going back to what you guys said, they love occultist,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in a secret society and right, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it goes hand in hand. I mean again, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's uh, it's not two things that over time

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, evolved separately. There was over time these

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, if you were, you know, into doing

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<v Speaker 2>spook stuff, you're also in the cult stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the spycraft is very much a magic show

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, Absolutely, it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, in a general sense, it's convincing somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else of some of the reality is different than what they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Viewing, right, always, always whatever they want you to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was shocking to me to learn, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when Elvis as much as I know about my Kennfolk

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<v Speaker 2>old Charles Manson, you know, we're both the Maynards from Blakeville, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>Old Chuck and I the you know, I've been interested

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<v Speaker 2>in this dude for a very long time and reading

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<v Speaker 2>books about him for over a decade plus, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea he was so connected to Elvis Presley

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<v Speaker 2>until Miguil McGill connor had had brought that up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know that either. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, Yeah, it was a new revelation. So I

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<v Speaker 2>look further into that, right, I mean, that's good. Good

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<v Speaker 2>for mcgil for bringing that to our attention, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>some good stuff. But look further into it. He's he

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<v Speaker 2>was really indeed with the Manson family. So Elvis is

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis's spiritual guide was Jay C. Brings, business partner and

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<v Speaker 2>fellow hairdresser, and they all knew Elvis on the first name.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and Seabring knew each other the first name, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And he knew Sharon Tate because

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon Tate. When Elvis goes before Tate married Plansky. She

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<v Speaker 2>was engaged to Seabring. It was it was all cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob had swooped in and said, hey, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>come marry this new Polish director that we have. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that I just hired at Paramount, right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>Polish director Polanski is now thanks to folks like Dana Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver Rodding Jewels pointing out all the spook connections. That's

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<v Speaker 2>old Roman Polanski has an origin story of. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, uh, you know, I think it's interesting again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this episode of spook, spook activity and occultism. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I find really intriguing again around the Manson situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>when Miguel claimed that there was rumor that Elvis had

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<v Speaker 2>had gone to the murder home a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the aftermath of the murders, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds a while. But when you see that his

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<v Speaker 2>him was also formerly J. S. Brings business partner in

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<v Speaker 2>that hair slan and obviously presumably but by that means

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<v Speaker 2>a fellow drug trafficker in that hair slan, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what Sea Bring was doing. Seabring was a scientologist

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<v Speaker 2>as well, amongst others. I'm sure of cult groups he

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<v Speaker 2>was engaged in. But nonetheless, it seems like Elvis is

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<v Speaker 2>far more connected to the situation. And I brought up

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<v Speaker 2>the issue of scientology with mcguil and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I respect a man's work there, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have to disagree with him. I think I did

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<v Speaker 2>in the show as well, that it seems like Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>has got a lot more scientology stuff going on there,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he claimed that it was not the case,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd have to look back in there further. But

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<v Speaker 2>as far as Elvis is scientology roots, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>to me in the past that Priscilla started that when

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<v Speaker 2>it at first, but then he had his outs with it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I perceived it, so well. I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with him he did a I think I was Miguel's conclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>He had his outs with him with scientology and wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a fan. I agree with that aspect, but not at first.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like he was into it, and Priscilla was

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly the one that brought him into it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought that was interesting when he brought up

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<v Speaker 2>that Priscilla was going to mainly be Hall lectures, right yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, who's to say that's even true. No, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe he was going himself. I mean, who knows,

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<v Speaker 3>Like and you're just oh, yes, she went. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>just I can't see why. I mean, maybe times were

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<v Speaker 3>to that and take notes for motherfucker, you know what

417
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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. I don't know.

418
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, yeah, I could see where it would be kind

419
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<v Speaker 2>of a ship show to try to go out in

420
00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:41.000
<v Speaker 2>public because Elvis Presley, especially in the sixties there. But

421
00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.200
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I feel like that doesn't it's

422
00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.920
<v Speaker 2>not it's not mutually exclusive, right, I mean, Priscilla may

423
00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:48.079
<v Speaker 2>have very well been interested in.

424
00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:53.160
<v Speaker 3>This stuff as well. That was intelligence She wanted to

425
00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.119
<v Speaker 3>go too, what's that? That's what I'm saying too, Like

426
00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:01.039
<v Speaker 3>she wanted to go. It wasn't just like, oh yeah, yeah.

427
00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>For sure she's If she's a lifelong scientologist, I can't

428
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<v Speaker 2>imagine she's going to not enjoy the manly p hall lecture, right, well.

429
00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Especially for Elvis, but you would fly there you would

430
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>think manly p Hall would just go there, you know

431
00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:17.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, right for sure?

432
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Now that's totally, that's totally that's what I'm taking it.

433
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:21.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, if he wanted to get a mainly P

434
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Hall exture, you can get mainly P Hall and Graceland.

435
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure for sure, I mean definitely. And then you

436
00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:29.559
<v Speaker 1>know maybe he was there with Sir Hanser.

437
00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what Sorry, No, you're you're you're spot on target.

438
00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:37.240
<v Speaker 2>That's where my head's at right now. So that's what

439
00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying here. So then you look at who is

440
00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.680
<v Speaker 2>mainly p Hall. What else does he involved in the time?

441
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, connected to Sir Hand, Sir handle, double sir

442
00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.559
<v Speaker 2>hand there, so double sir hands connected to the same people.

443
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:50.599
<v Speaker 2>According to a nineteen seventy four i S report, he

444
00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:56.680
<v Speaker 2>was reported to attended numerous sexment magic rituals at the

445
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Tate Polanski him and May of nineteen sixty eight, hosted

446
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>by quote unquote English satanic cult.

447
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the process. So weird, Yeah, so weird.

448
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Double Sir Han's doing process stuff with the tay Planski's.

449
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.039
<v Speaker 2>He's mixed up with mainly P Hall. That's what makes

450
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>me really consider that the notes of Ed Sanders from

451
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.519
<v Speaker 2>from the nineteen seventies and eighties when he's doing the

452
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 2>appear to be doing the bulk of this investigation was

453
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.440
<v Speaker 2>claiming that mainly p Hall was deep involved in this

454
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.960
<v Speaker 2>network of process and for Pie activities and man in

455
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:28.599
<v Speaker 2>factur the Grand Shinguon Sir Sir Han.

456
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Was registered as a rosen creute too. They put that

457
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 1>on there in the investigation. So it doesn't surprise me.

458
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking about smaller circles back then. You know,

459
00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:44.839
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not like it was everywhere, so they would

460
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<v Speaker 1>all know each other.

461
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's it just it seems like a

462
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.240
<v Speaker 2>small circle of folks. So they definitely knew each other there, right,

463
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm.

464
00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I think so. And especially if you could get in

465
00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 1>with someone famous, like if you were really trying to

466
00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like MK Ultra, someone you definitely like could use that,

467
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Like don't you want to go to this meeting? Elvis

468
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:03.559
<v Speaker 1>is going to be there? What?

469
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, that's science, that's why sciences. L Ron Hubbard

470
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:09.880
<v Speaker 2>wrote a memo for that purpose, right, saying we're going

471
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to target celebrities. I think I think the process did

472
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the same with the recruitment of the Beatles, the Rolling Stones.

473
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Et cetera. Absolutely, boys, the.

474
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Mama's in the papas do he wasn't know?

475
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>He was, yeahh my gosh. And uh was the other

476
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>one that the girl became the Dixie Chicks her dad

477
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 1>they involved in that?

478
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Or is that the mama's Yeah, mama's in the papas.

479
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>But I say, you're bringing the Dixie Chicks in there.

480
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I like it, but I'm not familiar with that. But yeah,

481
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>So John Phillips was financing a cord at the I

482
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and S report as well. John Phillips was financing processed

483
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>church activities there in the late sixties in Los Angeles

484
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>and his which is interesting because again Mama Cass was,

485
00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, alleged to be a member of also by

486
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Saying and Hers and accordingly by the l A Prosecutor's office,

487
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 2>she was on a list of witnesses for the prosecution.

488
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.599
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't recalled, but she was on a list of

489
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>witnesses for the prosecution in that in that trial. So, yeah,

490
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Wilson Phillips about I say, then you got the combination

491
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of the processing Beach boys in the processing mamas and

492
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the papas with the Wilson Phillips right, mmmmh And that

493
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the Phillips connect directly to George Hodell. So the George

494
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Hodell his daughter apparently in the hand some incestual stuff

495
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>going on. And apparently so did John Phillips with his

496
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>eldest daughter. She would leave, she would leave the house,

497
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.279
<v Speaker 2>living with her father and apparently going to live with

498
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow Phillips. George Hodell's Tomorrow Phillips George Hodell's uh, Tomorrow Hodell.

499
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>There we go. George Hodell's daughter. George Hodell's alleged to

500
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>be the the Black Dalla killer killer. Amongst other things.

501
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>He was a celebrity abortion doctor to the stars. I

502
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>recently learned that Bob Cocaine Evans apparently lived in the

503
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>same home Assent at one point in time, you know,

504
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 2>a later date obviously. But there's a famous Frank Lloyd

505
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>right home. It's the Mayan Temple Home. I think that's

506
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 2>what they call it. Oh, and I guess after you know,

507
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 2>George Hodell again, he was He was friends with like

508
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>John Barrymore, John Carrodine, John Houston, you know the Johns.

509
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 2>This is the old Hollywood Laurel canyon scene. This, These

510
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 2>are the the people that would mentor folks like Jack Nicholson, right,

511
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. And again yeah, Jackie, that was John Houston's.

512
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>That was John Houston's underling, right, that was his protege

513
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>that epicenter. And then you see Bob Cocaine Evans there

514
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 2>again again another one of Jack's close associates.

515
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, p f fs. Well he was there when the

516
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>when the big R word went down, right, he was

517
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there in the jacuzzie.

518
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, well, I don't think he was there. Was

519
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 2>at his house though, was at his house. I think

520
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Cocaine Bob. I don't know if Cocaine Bob was there

521
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>showed up that I've I've read numerous accounts. I always

522
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to wear cocaine. Bob's other friend and

523
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Jack's other friend, Marlon Brando, was because Brando shared a

524
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>driveway with Jack, the same gated driveway. You just came

525
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>in the same drive went one way and then the

526
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>other way right off of Mouholland. Jack would later buy

527
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>up Marlin's house and tear down because like five people

528
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>got murdered in there.

529
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Four people got murdered in there. You didn't want no evidence,

530
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of all of it. Right, Oh

531
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Yeah, are you all familiar with this house?

532
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 1>The in his house, it's the.

533
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Mayan temple home there in the Frank Lloyd right. Oh,

534
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting structures one second police. Yeah, the veritable

535
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood icon, with over eighty screen appearances and films, is

536
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 2>the last and largest of rights for Los Angeles area

537
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>textile blockhouses. It's like a Mayan temple looking place, right, Wow,

538
00:27:58.119 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 2>you gonna get some better pictures over there.

539
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

540
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So George Hodell lived in this at one point in time,

541
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and then apparently Bob Cocaine Evans.

542
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Resided in here at a different point in time.

543
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Weird, right, man?

544
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I would really live Yeah, I wouldn't want to live

545
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>in a house where blood paved the everything, you know,

546
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 1>like a replication of that.

547
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Sorry to say, That's what I'm saying, though, HAIDI have

548
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>you got folks who are seemingly engaged in these rituals,

549
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and I would assert ritual human sacrifice when you're talking

550
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>about the Black Dollar murder and whatnot, Especially then these

551
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>folks live in what is a mind temple house? I mean,

552
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>was there an altar in the middle of this place.

553
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 2>What's going on here?

554
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And that four year old kid that died? I can't

555
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>remember who this was. It was super famous, you know

556
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about? And it was a movie famous

557
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and he was, oh man, why can't I remember that

558
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>right now?

559
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>But it was like a sadly there's been a lot

560
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of children that have died, Heidi, I mean, yeah, come

561
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>to mind. I was about to name off like three

562
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>or four, but what air are we talking about here?

563
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>In oh same era and they had a big sex

564
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 1>party and it was weirdo and it was like satanic.

565
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 2>And you're talking about.

566
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe and the dead they kept him in

567
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a box and tortured the damn kid. I don't know.

568
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this story. What have to find it? Business, Yeah, smoker,

569
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll find this.

570
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were talking about the instance of Virginia rape.

571
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Who's the who was? It was super famous in the

572
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood scene and they were just like oops, and then

573
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.119
<v Speaker 1>they went and partied and left the kid dead. Is

574
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that the same story?

575
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're talking about Vita Vita Polikus, Yes, that's it. Yeah,

576
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>So that was December thirty first, nineteen sixty three. Right now,

577
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 2>he was starting that that baby was set to the

578
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 2>star in Kenneth Anger's film Lucifer Rising. He would later

579
00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 2>be replacing that film by Bobobby Bosele, which is family

580
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 2>right in prison today still for murder.

581
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

582
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 2>And they did, they went, they went out, and they

583
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>went out for the night afterwards, right.

584
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 1>They'd left him there and didn't Careen, didn't report anything

585
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and went and partied. And then later they were like, oh,

586
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should do something about this. What are

587
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you talking about, you crazy people?

588
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was there so that he was kind of

589
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>a proto Mansonite there. So his art his art gallery

590
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 2>would be in Laurel Canyon and be used as the

591
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Birds and other band's studio practice studio space, so they

592
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>would all hang out there. It was just the It

593
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>was the epicenter of activity before Frank Zappa's lot cabin.

594
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>It was the epicenter of activity there. In fact, his

595
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>number two would later be would later be Frank Zappa's

596
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>number two, well at least associated with with the mothers

597
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>of invention in that Zappa crew after Policus leaves and

598
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 2>as Captain fuck Carl Franzoni. He's strangely enough, fran Zoni's

599
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>from Cincinnati. He was born in the same hospital as

600
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Charles Manson from Cincinnati, so I think it's three weeks apart,

601
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>and then four years earlier, Doris Day was born in

602
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 2>that same hospital in Cincinnati, and her son Terry Melcher

603
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.559
<v Speaker 2>plays heavily into the Mansons situation, right, He's the folks

604
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that was renting out that hound there before Tat and Polanski.

605
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Bosally is up to his eyes and all

606
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 1>this so for sure, for sure.

607
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>But how weird is that that that a baby would

608
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>be playing, you know, list for Rising and playing Satan

609
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and listen for Rising and then be replaced by Bobby

610
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Bose delay right, boyfriend of angers.

611
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Ostensibly so strange. I mean, wouldn't you love to be

612
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like this time frame in America is just absolutely fascinating

613
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 1>if we could be a fly on the wall like

614
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the week WHOA, I think you'd be scared. I think

615
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 1>I'd be scared. Oh yeah, for sure, m h terrifying.

616
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's uh, it's just very interesting that. So

617
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>one other fun fact here about mister Vida pelicis here Heidi,

618
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>and I think I learned this from from weird scenes

619
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>inside the Canyon was he's a roths child or was

620
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>married to a roll.

621
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that one. Yeah, I just got I

622
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>just went Kenneth Anger thing once because I did a

623
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 1>show with somebody and I was like trying to prep

624
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was like, this is disgusting. But

625
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>with Kenneth Anger, Yeah, we did an anger at this Yeah,

626
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 1>and uh it was I was just trying to learn

627
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know all this stuff that connected like

628
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough.

629
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 2>So bad, you know, you know, where he'd hang out

630
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>in recent years before he died, he'd frequently be seen

631
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I never seen him there, but he'd frequently be seen

632
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>at the reportedly least at the uh mainly p Hall

633
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Center there in Hollywood.

634
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Much are you serious? But also I want to say,

635
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>shout out Amy Lane. She's the one that did that episode,

636
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>so she's great. I like to give credit where credit

637
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 1>is due.

638
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 2>So not only through the Phillips and other processing angles,

639
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>is there connections from the Hotel Mayan Temple home to

640
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, from the you know, the thirties and the

641
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>forties in Hollywood essentially into the fifties, right to the

642
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>later sixties and seventies into the eighties, Hollywood through the

643
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, against the Phillips and whatnot. Again, it seems

644
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>like there's more to that since apparently Cocaine Bob resided

645
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>in this home during that period for a period of time.

646
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's uh all more following that. I'm sure. I

647
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 2>just learned that the other day. So that was Brandon

648
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 2>information for me.

649
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 1>That's all but one big ring, like I mean literally.

650
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for decades right, wow, Again, Jackson was very much

651
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Fatty right jack Jack Nicholson was very much a part

652
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>of that group because again his mentor was John Houston, Right,

653
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, I can envision all those guys

654
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>hanging out in that home together, you know what I mean?

655
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>What they mean?

656
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, improper sigil magic creating all kinds of demons

657
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>on ears. Don't talk to him, JJ, I.

658
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Mean, are you all from there with the legend of

659
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Fatty Arbuckle? I do not know this, Nick.

660
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 1>No.

661
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>So this is a this is an old school Hollywood

662
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>rape case. This is the nineteen twenties, I think in

663
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty twenty two. This is apparently a sex magic

664
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>ritual in the nineteen twenties in Hollywood were involved. This

665
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 2>actress named Virginia rap pai, So it's Virginia, it's common spelling.

666
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 2>And then a rape but with two p's rapai.

667
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's weird.

668
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, was the rape? She was the rape victim in

669
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>the matter, right, so. Roscoe Conkling Fatty Arbuckle was a

670
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>America silent film actor, director, and screenwriter.

671
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah.

672
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>He was also mentored Charlie Chaplin, money Banks and Bob Hope.

673
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Some dark stuff around.

674
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>That guy, right, Charlie Chaplin, Mormon, Marmon murder Right.

675
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Arbuckle was one of the most popular silence stars in

676
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen tens and was one of the highest paid actors

677
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood, signing a contract in nineteen twenty with Paramount

678
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Pictures for one million dollars.

679
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Back then.

680
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>And then he raped this lady.

681
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>So apparently this was a ritual and you know, and

682
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stories about this incident, but as Wikipedia,

683
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the source of all information on the interwebs, will tell us,

684
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Arbuckle was the defendant in three widely publicized trials between

685
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>November twenty first and April November nineteen twenty one. In

686
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>April nineteen twenty two, for the rape and manslaughter of

687
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>actress Virginia rape Rapey had fallen ill at a party

688
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>hosted by Arbuckle at San Francisco's Saint Francis Hotel in

689
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>September twenty one and died four days later. Well that's

690
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>one way to say it. Supposedly it was pretty gruesome

691
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>and ritualistic. So yeah, right, so that was before the

692
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>mind stuff we were just talking about. That's even before that, right.

693
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Any royal connections there or Cincinnati connects on Old Fatty, That's.

694
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 2>A great question, right. He seems like he comes from

695
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 2>that heritage, right, Yeah, he.

696
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Looks he looks a little inbred or something with.

697
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>A name like Conklin. I'm just saying I'll have to

698
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>get back to on that. It is interesting though, because

699
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 2>another famous Hollywood star of his era is certainly got

700
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>some Cincinnati heritage, and that's the cowboys Tom Mix. You

701
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>familiar with him, No, he was the He was John

702
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Wayne's mentor in Hollywood, and he also was like the

703
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>first boy in Hollywood. The guy who taught him to

704
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>be a cowboy on screen was wider.

705
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

706
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 2>So Tom Mix is u of Connecticut heritage, and you know,

707
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the traditional blue blood society heritage you find up there

708
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>with those of those folks. I'm sure there's more, but

709
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll look back on this the Starbuckle guy, because it's

710
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 2>been many years since I've looked at that case. But

711
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>it was very bizarre, and this trial is we're very

712
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>highly publicized.

713
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Man.

714
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the one when you first started saying old Hollywood rape.

715
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, is that one Virginia Repay? Because

716
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>isn't it weird that the victim in there is named

717
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>virgin There's no way, right, virgin Ra Virginia Repay?

718
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>What if that was a humiliation ritual, just like old

719
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Johnny D and his little poo queen? Yeah?

720
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Is the name changed for the purposes of the ritual?

721
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is? It? Is it told of the public

722
00:37:58.639 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for the purpose of the ritual? You know?

723
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Is this sees me something too?

724
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 1>That?

725
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Or is that whoever pulls this res in this universe?

726
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Are they a six son of a bitch and you're

727
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>just gonna have some rape victim and ritual sacrifice named

728
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Virginia repe.

729
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>That's bad, That's pretty bad. Yeah, Virgin Rate. I mean

730
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous, right, Virgin Rate? By Fatty, that's just Fatty m.

731
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>The name Fatty arm Vucals sounds made up.

732
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it doesn't. None of it sounds real.

733
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Like if somebody told you that on the street and

734
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, hey, I got this conspiracy for you,

735
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>would it just be like okay, right, well that's true.

736
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>First first off, though, man, I would not stop walking

737
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>if someone a person on the street like that. However,

738
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 2>if Nick was approached by a person like that wearing

739
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>a dress, looking like a linebacker riding a scooter, hespiracy theory.

740
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 3>He's like you said, I was gonna quick answer. I

741
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.280
<v Speaker 3>did not know where I was gonna have to go

742
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 3>to a calendar, whatever the fuck is going I was like,

743
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 3>oh god, oh that's too fat.

744
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes when I when I see names like Fatty Arbuckle

745
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and uh in Virginia wrappam my god. Someone broke the simulation,

746
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like, what is going on here? Yeah?

747
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 1>And if they didn't, they need to.

748
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>That day, someone definitely broke the simulation with that transgendered

749
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 2>linebacker hanging out in front of Common Pizza. Yeah, that's

750
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>a glitch if I've ever seen one. Wherever that thing

751
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 2>came from.

752
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, my husband also likes to speak to the

753
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 1>people that are clearly broken. When we were in California.

754
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he pulled off on the exit to go

755
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom in a wrong part of town, and

756
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>he's like, what did that lady say to you? She

757
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 1>was all confrontational with me, and I said, I don't know.

758
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk to her. I just kept walking. Why

759
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 1>did you talk to her?

760
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I mean, it's roll the dice, roll the dice. Yeah,

761
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 4>just keep walking, head down, walk by. Yes, good advice.

762
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>So, looking further into this Elvis situation real quick, going

763
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>back to this, you know, in the Elvis and the

764
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Manson stuff, there was actually a cartoon made see the

765
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 2>whole series, uh, the Elvis Agent Elvis. So it even

766
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>speaks of it being like he's a secret agent. It's

767
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>made by Priscilla Presley. You know, it's got to number.

768
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 2>It's on Netflix. But in one of the episodes, they

769
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>literally go kill the Manson family. That you know, that's

770
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the that is the Yeah, I'll play us a brief

771
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>preview of that here, please see and buy. Tell you

772
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.400
<v Speaker 2>about I wanted to hang out with a bunch of

773
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 2>shitbag hippies.

774
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I'd returned Dennis Hopper's folks.

775
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.559
<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting. So Matthew McConaughey is apparently voicing Elvis

776
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>there and uh he and this scene he mentions Dennis

777
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Hopper again. Hopper was deeply related into this whole process

778
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>movement there too as well. He marries Michelle Phillips briefly there,

779
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you know from the mom was in the papas And

780
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 2>again though you know Nicholson that he's part of that

781
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>whole crew of actors.

782
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, m oh god, damn it. You know, I'm not

783
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>so much as angry as I am just play myself,

784
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he goes, Damn.

785
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought that far was great because he's, like I said,

786
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>he's a badge collector. So that's at least got some

787
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 2>humor to it.

788
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Exactly right, that's wild. Anything broken?

789
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Did y'all catch that? She immediately went to the ground.

790
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>She's like, you grab some grab some meat. Okay, some

791
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of those seem awfully baked to keep in your paints,

792
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure the tempion. So they go on

793
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 2>to mark the entire Manson family. I don't know if

794
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 2>it's historically accurate, but it's comical. It's weird too, right, Yeah,

795
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that's weird.

796
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Especially helped me it.

797
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's part of it. She's part of the production. Yeah,

798
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 2>she I think she even voices herself in there, and

799
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that was her bringing out the switchblade.

800
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 1>There it was.

801
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of the last thing I expected to

802
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>find even made. I mean, I completely meant, I don't

803
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 2>have Netflix, but I completely missed this being even produced

804
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and when I discovered but after I looked into it

805
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>after the The Cold Elvis Show with Miguel Connor there,

806
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like.

807
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>What in the world, this is wild? That's like the

808
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 1>series follows the exploits. Oh, go ahead, random. Oh, it's

809
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.679
<v Speaker 1>just it's random. It's weird, super random, right.

810
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, what in the world.

811
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.079
<v Speaker 2>And then I found that that that episode of this

812
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 2>is super wild? You know, the series follows the exports

813
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of a fictionalized version. Thank you for pointing that out

814
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Wikipedia of American rock and roll legend Elvis Presley, voiced

815
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>by Matthew McConaughey, who moonlights is a spy for the

816
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>United States government. I don't think that's all that, uh,

817
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, inaccurate, right, Well.

818
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 3>The stories could be fictional.

819
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, but well right, obviously I'm saying the fact that

820
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>he was an undercover spy for the US.

821
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Got true.

822
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh so she looks like, uh, Priscilla Pressley created it

823
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>looks like Kaylan Olsen is the voice of C. C. Rider.

824
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure who that is. Johnny Knoxville, the SpongeBob guy,

825
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Tom Kenney, Yeah, you Priscilla Pressley herself. Okay, so maybe

826
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't Priscilla Pressley. We saw on the clip that

827
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 2>was C. C Ryder voiced by kayln Olsen from It's

828
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Always Sunny, Sweet d It was Fred Armison is Charles Manson.

829
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Weird, very strange, like super random and weird, Like what

830
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>are they doing with that? Especially a cartoons? Right? And

831
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 1>cartoons aren't aren't cheap, They're not.

832
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Seem to be a pretty good, pretty high dollar production.

833
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Looks like right, some cast members, you know, McConaughey can't

834
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>be cheap.

835
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm unless he's in it for a reason, unless

836
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 1>he was cheap.

837
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Good point. That's a good point because I don't know

838
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 2>if he's got any kind of scientology connections or roots.

839
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 2>But I do find it interesting that this hitman that

840
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>sits the epicenter of U, you know, hired professional assassins

841
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 2>between the mob or these cult networks. Uh, Charles h

842
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Charles Harrelson, what do you?

843
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>What are you?

844
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Harrelson's dad who was also Matthew McConaughey's dad, so you

845
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>know they have the same dad. Yeah, I do not

846
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 2>know that, Oh you were Oh yeah yeah. Even McConaughey's

847
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.679
<v Speaker 2>mom's like, yeah, yeah, I've known. I've always known that.

848
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>So I wonder how long have they been this has

849
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>been known between them right behind the scene, you know,

850
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, their own their own personal lives, right.

851
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>That's got to be weird for them. And why is

852
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it always like that with the kids too, Like even

853
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like a Milio Estevez and Charlie Sheen, Like, uh, they

854
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 1>don't publicize that, you know what I mean? Like that,

855
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. They do that all over Hollywood.

856
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>They they just announced this one like publicly maybe a

857
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 2>year and a half or so ago. Maybe a year ago.

858
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Then McConaughey and Haroldson started talking about this. But I

859
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 2>read a read or watched an interview with McConaughey's mother

860
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 2>and she she verified.

861
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, well that's interesting.

862
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So this is supposed to be this is McConaughey's older brother.

863
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>He has the same dad as well, apparently I believe that, Like, right,

864
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.800
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. So even McConaughey's older brother, Rooster

865
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 2>McConaughey's his name. He apparently their younger brother has a

866
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 2>different dad, but him and his own or brother have

867
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the same dad. And that's supposedly.

868
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow, he looks just like him. They had to say something.

869
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>People were going to say something, right, I think he

870
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 1>looks more like what he than what his full brother does. Yeah,

871
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 1>he does. Sometimes that'll happen too with I have a

872
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 1>bunch of half siblings and whatnot, and my brother he

873
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>looks more like me than his full sister. And I'm

874
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>only half weird weird. Yeah, these people, they're all screwing

875
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody at these damn uh seances and whatnot, just like Jackie. Yeah,

876
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it's all weird.

877
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say that he looks more like a Haralson

878
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 2>than he does with Coony he this.

879
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Rooster fella, Holy crap, that's not Oh wow, yeah, that's wild.

880
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>But again, they're they have the same dad, so they

881
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>all do. So you know, there's gonna be some similarities.

882
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just whoever lands on the person that's married,

883
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like you get to raise it as they do all

884
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 1>this weird sex magic, you know what I mean, Right, Yeah,

885
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you take the kid home, she's your wife.

886
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's I mean, this dude's a hit man,

887
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, for years, you know, Charles Harrilson, I think

888
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 2>was the only dude to ever MURCA sitting federal judge.

889
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's ballsy, but he was. I think at

890
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the time he was doing that for the Chakra Brothers,

891
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Chakra and brother. Down there, these Mexican trol cartel

892
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 2>fellas out running run their stuff up through Texas across

893
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the border, and those fellas were running coke and I

894
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 2>ran contrast. So I'd like to know where all these

895
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 2>episoders really meet.

896
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Quite honestly, well never know, because they're running the product

897
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 1>of the US.

898
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Government exactly exactly. I don't think Charles was at jfk

899
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Ass and I think he's just telling tales, but he's.

900
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Clearly in the set. Yeah, no, I get it, that's wild.

901
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>You familiar with that, the murder I'm talking about of

902
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the sitting.

903
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Judge or no, oh no, sorry, I thought you were

904
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about JFK No. Not not the judge.

905
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't think of his name. It was the

906
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 2>guy Charles Harrelson. He died in prison, john Wood, John Wood,

907
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he was the district court judge down there

908
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 2>in Texas. Again, this is all you know, there's his

909
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 2>drug the drug lords were under charges on stuff.

910
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 3>You know.

911
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>This guy was the judge I believe is how.

912
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 2>It went down. But it was quite a shot, you know,

913
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 2>as a train sniper myself, I will say this was

914
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>quite a shot because he did it. I believe he

915
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 2>did in the suburban area, you know, and from a distance.

916
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And again, you know, you're dealing with a lot of

917
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 2>factors there, you know that you really can't plan for.

918
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I'm saying, Not onlaw is was it

919
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 2>a good distance? What I'm saying, when you're shooting in

920
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 2>an environment like that, there's a lot of things.

921
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 1>You can't account for, so right, right, yeah, anything.

922
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's just so many things when you're

923
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>dealing you know, busy area like that, right, and you

924
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>want to go on detected and everything else like that.

925
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, So I'm gonna have to have you come back

926
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>on with all this manson family business. This is great, Yeah,

927
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to for sure. Yeah, this is anything with

928
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that era is so fascinating because it was just all

929
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 1>out there and they didn't really care sounds at her

930
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>house on Saturday, you know.

931
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>It was the thing to do, right, Yeah, especially in

932
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 2>southern California.

933
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So weird.

934
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's actually what I was talking about there to

935
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 2>night with the epicenter of Marvel and DC Comics here

936
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>this past Wednesday and on Operation GCD Live is al

937
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Ron Hubbard's literary agent and the leader of the Science

938
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Fiction Club. That's you know this dude before re Ackerman,

939
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 2>he was the literary agent for basically every sci fi writer.

940
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>And you can think of him, you know, the last

941
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.159
<v Speaker 2>one hundred years in America, you know, especially that that

942
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.400
<v Speaker 2>era at least one hundred you know, nearly one hundred

943
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 2>years ago now, but is.

944
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>When he started being a literary agent.

945
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he died just about fifteen or twenty

946
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and he was a major figure in Hollywood

947
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the entire time, and especially sci fi writing. And it

948
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>seems to me that there's a lot to be said

949
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>about the epicenter of these activities with a lot of

950
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>these cults and then these ideas around those things right there.

951
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's just the ones on the surface. Who even

952
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>knows so well? Right, right, and how many one of

953
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 1>my government operations.

954
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what that's exactly I was gonna say.

955
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Next.

956
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that Ackerman says is they were

957
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 2>all it's southern California's is a nineteen ninety seven interview.

958
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 1>He's in his eighties.

959
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 2>He's like, it's you know, we're He's like, it's southern California.

960
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>We're all into the cult scene. We're all just you know,

961
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>we were doing everyone was doing different cult things, and

962
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of way explained it very nonchalantly

963
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 2>like that, right.

964
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Like that, that's fine, that's weird. If people weren't dying

965
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, it would be fine. I don't have any

966
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>problem with people doing people stuff. Don't hurt other people

967
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 1>or animals, but this is not that. Obviously clearly people

968
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 1>are dying.

969
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think it's obviously. Some folks take it

970
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to some extremes, But it's kind of like you were saying, though,

971
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 2>like you know, it's Tuesday, We're going to do a

972
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 2>ritual over here on Tuesdays, you know, like you know,

973
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 2>so weird.

974
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, and it's and it's I don't think we'll

975
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>ever know the truth. Like they always like the JFK

976
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>file thing, they released this whole big part, but then

977
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>they didn't release RFK and they didn't release all these

978
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>other pieces of this other guy that critical with the

979
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 1>whole alien thing. I'm like, Okay, you guys are just

980
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>never going to be truthful.

981
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's get real, right, they're just playing games, right.

982
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>It's annoying. It's and I knew it was going to

983
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>be annoying because of Roy Cone. And the current president

984
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to talk too much about that when he

985
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>used to be, you know, over the branch off of

986
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the Mary Carter Paint Company, a national for a minute now,

987
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm found it for a hot second, and you're going,

988
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, what the hell's happening over here?

989
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 2>No, that's a good point, and it's funny, you know.

990
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I found I found more pictures of old old Donnie

991
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Boy going to Roy Coin's birthday parties and subsequent years

992
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 2>to seventy eight when they first his first appearance there

993
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>at Roy's fifty second at fifty four.

994
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, and they're the worst. He looks like he's

995
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>having the worst, like ever time. He's always got this

996
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 1>scale on his face as far as Cone, I'm talking

997
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>about Cone, Okay, per fat smile jee. Right.

998
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, my point like, I was a little shocked to

999
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>find him going back because if you're gonna if I'm

1000
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to a party, especially if you're supposed to

1001
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>a tee total or like old Donald Trump is there,

1002
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>l presidente. He again, I'm not the vice president, I

1003
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 2>have no associations, but the yeah, you know, if you're

1004
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna dress the man up like a little Roman boy

1005
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>toy and a leash type of deal, right, and you

1006
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 2>wonder why he's going back for the next year's party.

1007
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. I'm like, Okay, this whole thing is completely connected,

1008
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten percent, and when you're looking at

1009
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 1>it all, you know for a fact, like he can't

1010
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 1>release it all. It makes absolutely zero, right, zero, zero

1011
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>sense to screw your own self over, especially when you

1012
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 1>own the Atlantis hotel. For a moment, please do tell

1013
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 1>me about the aliens, mister president.

1014
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's a good point. And not only that,

1015
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>like when you say he was he got Resorts International

1016
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>underneath his Trump Network umbrella, I mean what you're really

1017
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 2>saying there, right though, Hoti is that he inherited a

1018
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 2>bunch of blackmail operations.

1019
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely. I mean they're not playing

1020
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.119
<v Speaker 1>for for like fun, you know, they this is big

1021
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 1>boy toys, and they act like Donald's part was nothing,

1022
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wait a minute, he was going bankrupt

1023
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 1>at that time. Oh, just like the Mormon Church was

1024
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 1>right before a watergate, and then what happens They do

1025
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing the Mullen Company from fashion and Boom fixes

1026
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the church. Boom fixes Trump's problem.

1027
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 5>Right, come on, come on, it's too that's stupid. Like

1028
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 5>anybody that doesn't catch that, I'm just like, no, that

1029
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 5>that doesn't make any sense, you know.

1030
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 1>What I mean. Sure, I mean it does make sense,

1031
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't make sense that the dots wouldn't connect clearly.

1032
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, there's obviously what I think you're what I

1033
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 2>was tracking. What you're saying is there's something more going

1034
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 2>on there than what we're being told. And it's pretty obvious. Yeah,

1035
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 2>we can take some stabs and some suggestions and what

1036
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 2>that might be, but some educated guesses of that. But yeah,

1037
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.840
<v Speaker 2>so we're left in the dark of it clearly, right.

1038
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, and we can follow the little red dots. But

1039
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like you know, when people start turning up dead in baptubs,

1040
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, at thirty seven, because they already had

1041
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a bad heart. Real Okay, I'm talking about Onassis's daughter,

1042
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, look at this connection here, you know,

1043
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for first she did and this is what they say, Oh,

1044
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>diet pills.

1045
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

1046
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, no, sir no. And my brain's

1047
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>completely like saturated in that right now. But there's so

1048
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>many things that always connect every single time. Uh. And

1049
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 1>and star Wars' is Starvars, I think, is how you

1050
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>say his name? That was his like competitor. They were

1051
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of against each other, you know, and that was yes, Starvars.

1052
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 1>He's a Greek family and that was his brother.

1053
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Is he a staying at comedian, No.

1054
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a Greek Greek shipping guy.

1055
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 2>There's some Greek there's some Greek stand comedian by that name.

1056
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, really, oh yeah, but yeah, it's like fascinating

1057
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 1>to me that they and they end up in families

1058
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 1>like the top guy that was the Greek shipping uh,

1059
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 1>like boss guy they marry his daughters and then both

1060
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of them get a daughter and and like they hate

1061
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>each other I'm like, wait a minute, why are you

1062
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>all all in the family? What the hell I mean?

1063
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.079
<v Speaker 1>But then you start thinking about it, right, like, who's

1064
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 1>who's the one person that can't testify against you in

1065
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a court of law. You're freaking wife?

1066
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh is this you're talking about?

1067
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>No, he was a handsome fellow sort of but they both.

1068
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, a Greek fella.

1069
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's nic Ros Starvos or something like that.

1070
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the other way. Yes, yep, there he is. And

1071
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:22.280
<v Speaker 1>so it's interesting.

1072
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.440
<v Speaker 2>So he was another he was another shipping tycoon.

1073
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Huh yep, and they were, and they both married the

1074
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>daughters of another shipping tycoon. Isn't that weird? Like they

1075
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely keep it in the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1076
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. I'll be talking. I've never heard this guy.

1077
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.199
<v Speaker 2>As much as I've heard of NASA's name, I don't

1078
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:41.480
<v Speaker 2>think i've ever heard this fellaw's name.

1079
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>This guy, his wives, That's all I'm going to say.

1080
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to ruin it, but I'm telling you

1081
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 1>guys what. It gets crazy crazy, and they hate each other.

1082
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 1>They have to go to Christmas together. Could you imagine

1083
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they're like they marry sisters, so like they have to

1084
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 1>see each other sometimes, and Onassis is quoted as saying,

1085
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 1>we go to war, but we're nice. We're nice for

1086
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the ladies. So is it?

1087
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, so so the fellow Blowfield from James Bond and

1088
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 2>later Doctor Evil from Awesome Powers. Right, he's supposed to

1089
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>be an Assis, right.

1090
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah in that Yeah, and he's only look at

1091
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>his middle name.

1092
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1093
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh so maybe he's an amalgamation of both of those guys, right.

1094
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, and so his pro progeny or whatever, his his

1095
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 1>son's son, I believe ends up dating Paris Hilton.

1096
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Come on, I'm serious. The Hiltons are they got some

1097
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I.

1098
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Know about them Hiltons, believe it. Ye, put in Paris Hilton.

1099
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I think the film made that. I'll go ahead,

1100
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 2>just put.

1101
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 1>In Paris Hilton and Starvaross and you'll see he was

1102
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a handsome kid, like I mean, he still is. He's

1103
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 1>still alive, it right, Just.

1104
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I think they made her uncle sell his NFL team

1105
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>because he was had too much mob stuff going on.

1106
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh it doesn't surprise.

1107
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was the owner of the charters at one

1108
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 2>point in time.

1109
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. It's it's wild to me when you see

1110
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>how it gets handed down and then they're like, no, no,

1111
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 1>we're not in the mob.

1112
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mean we're talking to mob families here,

1113
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and then right the Hilton's and the Staberis or whatever,

1114
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>what's his fellows name?

1115
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what this is this is about.

1116
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 1>You can't somebody said he would have been disinherited, which

1117
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 1>is true if he married her. But here's why I

1118
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>think about it. You can't have that big of a

1119
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 1>family's come together, no way.

1120
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, So that's what I was suggesting, Yeah, for sure.

1121
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 1>And babies can't be made like that, Like you make

1122
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 1>a baby with them too, then the grandpa's can't kill them,

1123
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they can't have them waxt.

1124
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well now that you can find yourself in

1125
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 2>a dirty fai aed princess die situation. Right suppose she

1126
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 2>was uprightnant with his kids, And that's the fads. That's

1127
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a powerful bunch.

1128
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And I mean there's always a more on somewhere, lingering

1129
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in the weird background. I'm like, where the hell, why

1130
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the hell are you here? Where the hell did you

1131
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>come from? Why are you here? But yeah, it's always weird,

1132
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 1>who knows strange? But but what fascinating when I won't

1133
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>ruin it, but that grandpa of his, Oh my gosh,

1134
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>straight up killer and I mean it. Yeah.

1135
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Often, we'll have to maybe touch on that again in

1136
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a future episode here because I have to.

1137
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>It'll be one mm hmm.

1138
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna say, maybe we'll have to do

1139
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 2>it in a cold esteroteric review of James Bond sometimes

1140
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 2>because the first Bond you got, you got Blowfield, right,

1141
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 2>you got blow Casino Royalite. I think you get Blowfield,

1142
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 2>who seems to be a NASA's in the Stavros Fella

1143
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 2>combined as far as the character basis, and you got

1144
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Lashia and the chef is based on Crowley.

1145
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that. I feel she looked like

1146
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:15.559
<v Speaker 1>her mom was quite attractive, but her dad definitely his kid. Yeah.

1147
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a curse, isn't it.

1148
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh they're all everyone's dead but one her daughter. Everyone's dead.

1149
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>You tell me that's a coincidence. That's no coincidence that

1150
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:36.559
<v Speaker 1>he got too big, you know, and she stays out

1151
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 1>of the lime light. You don't hear about that girl,

1152
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 1>no way. Mm hmmm. They're talking about they're talking about

1153
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Paris Hilton being at Provan Provo Canyon School, and that's

1154
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>true in a mental institution here. Yeah, they locked Paris

1155
01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 1>up here and didn't they treated her dirty? Yeah? Yeah,

1156
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that's real.

1157
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Mormons did Huh. I didn't know that.

1158
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the Mormons, but they've checked her

1159
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 1>ass in here. Probably don't know what.

1160
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 2>There's no way the Mormons aren't running a mental institution

1161
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:11.840
<v Speaker 2>in the state of Utah. I mean, that's kind for.

1162
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Sure, that's true. I will get one for sure. That's real.

1163
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 2>This guy was in the ship, was the guy who's

1164
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 2>the Bonds playing against in the big Poker tournament in

1165
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Casino Royale. And he's based upon Fleming Stadium is based

1166
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:31.159
<v Speaker 2>on Crowley. They served together there in six Wow, that's wild.

1167
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Back to this.

1168
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>You know all the spooks stuff, right, spooks and spookes

1169
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 2>and spies you got in Fleming as well, right, the

1170
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:38.159
<v Speaker 2>whole James Bond series.

1171
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I think all of Utah's spooks and spies half the time.

1172
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're wrong, especially the NSA center y'all

1173
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 2>have out there.

1174
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we have about we have let's see, we have

1175
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:53.239
<v Speaker 1>an air Force base, we have the I R S,

1176
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>we have the NSA, We have the FBI newly built

1177
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in Farmington, and we have I don't know if the CIA,

1178
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>But then we have that big vault where they keep

1179
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 1>all the things that the Mormons, you know, the Mormon Vault.

1180
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember right now, but all of that's within

1181
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.920
<v Speaker 1>like forty five minutes with me. That's why people are

1182
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 1>always like and if I ever am not here on

1183
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 1>this universe, it y'all better look into it.

1184
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>You didn't mention this place though. How are you familiar

1185
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 2>with this one?

1186
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 1>The is this the one where they keep Yeah, the

1187
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.760
<v Speaker 1>cybersecurity yep, it's a huge.

1188
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1189
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 1>All of the water, the water just to cool down

1190
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the computers here is bananas. Like they're always saying, we

1191
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>have a drought, but evaporates as soon as they have

1192
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.159
<v Speaker 1>to run it through for these computers to keep the

1193
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:52.719
<v Speaker 1>mainframe cool enough to store all this data. Drot my ass.

1194
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Saying, right, these buildings are huge. Look at these data centers.

1195
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Yep, the NSA, Yeah, that's wild. Yeah.

1196
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I think these are some of the deals that Mormon

1197
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.280
<v Speaker 2>struck years ago when they decided to come back into America.

1198
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that, plus the presidential relationships they

1199
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 1>made with George A. Smith, George A. Smith is the

1200
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:24.079
<v Speaker 1>key to like at least the societies, like the hidden

1201
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>societies becoming more and more integral into the Mormon Church.

1202
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.840
<v Speaker 1>He was the first one to like join the Rotary

1203
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Club and these other things that don't really make a

1204
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. I mean, of course, skull and bones

1205
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff is already in there at that point,

1206
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>but like this other stuff, the Rotary Club that's typically Catholic,

1207
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's really not like a Mormony thing

1208
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to be. But yet there they are. And there's lots

1209
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of quotes, especially from Spencer W. Kimball saying he's going

1210
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to miss the Rotary luncheon. I think Justin's brought this

1211
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 1>up before and different stuff like in his journals, and

1212
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:03.679
<v Speaker 1>so that's how we know. But George A. Smith was

1213
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 1>photographed at a Rotary Rotarian Club thing and mentioning, you

1214
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 1>know that he was so excited blah blah blah. And

1215
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, this doesn't really align with the Mormon

1216
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Like this is drinking and coffee and tea like all

1217
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 1>these things, like it's not aligning. It doesn't make sense.

1218
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But yet things really start to look up for the Mormons.

1219
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 1>About then with integrating into the government, and then it

1220
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 1>fully takes off with Watergate. And I hate to say

1221
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 1>it because Bob Bennett, everybody says he's so nice and

1222
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but he did confirmed worked for the CIA,

1223
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and was, you know, running a shield of a corporation

1224
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>with the Molin Company, and then all of a sudden,

1225
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the finances of the Mormons are fixed after he takes

1226
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the fall. I'm sorry, Like, I think he helped them.

1227
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure, this is what I'm saying as far as and

1228
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm very familiar with that stories. My mother was a

1229
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 2>friend and fellow ward member with Bob Bennett there in

1230
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.039
<v Speaker 2>DC at that time. I would would argue that they

1231
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 2>may have dated from the way the way I heard

1232
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 2>those stories, they were definitely friends. That they were the

1233
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.199
<v Speaker 2>same age, you know, roughly the same age. You know

1234
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:16.760
<v Speaker 2>how the Mormons are. They're always trying to link up

1235
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the young single adults in each word, right, So I

1236
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 2>think I don't think it was more of a dating thing.

1237
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 2>It was more of one of those type of things, right.

1238
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, But you see it.

1239
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these deals you're talking about though, with Bennett and

1240
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the Molin Agency, I think this is what I'm saying

1241
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I think they ever signed up for the spooky deals

1242
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.320
<v Speaker 2>back there in the with eighteen ninety fours? What was

1243
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.280
<v Speaker 2>it when they came back in the Union.

1244
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, It's it's just it's two coincidental. I mean,

1245
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I think at some point, especially like you said, when

1246
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they came back into the Union. The funniest thing ever

1247
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 1>was that they sent you know, everybody was to send

1248
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:59.519
<v Speaker 1>a block to the George Washington Monument, and so Utah

1249
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 1>hadn't which its name to Utah yet and instead it

1250
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:06.320
<v Speaker 1>was called desiret And their blog set doesret and it

1251
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 1>has the all Seeing Eye on it. It's hysterical, and

1252
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is so funny. Yeah, it's so funny,

1253
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 1>and most people don't know. But like, hello, like I'm

1254
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure you can see visually what the Mormons are

1255
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 1>all about, you know, the Brotherhood clearly. Sure, Yeah, they'll

1256
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 1>do anything for the Brotherhood, much like some podcasts. Oh no,

1257
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:37.239
<v Speaker 1>just kidding, I'm teazing.

1258
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 3>You know that that Deserright news site. Believe it? And

1259
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess kind of like the whole thing

1260
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 3>with the Mormons, I guess their whole family tree thing.

1261
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.320
<v Speaker 3>It actually works great if you want to use it

1262
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of like against them. Like I found so much

1263
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 3>information on them when I was covering Skinwalk a range

1264
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.880
<v Speaker 3>on just certain Mormons because of them popping up in

1265
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Deserrate News. That's how I found out how many people

1266
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 3>were actually morning because they were popping up in that.

1267
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's I think there was one with the eye,

1268
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 1>but maybe it's that. Is that a beehive? But I

1269
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 1>thought the eye was over the top, but maybe not. No,

1270
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's there, you're right, Oh yeah you can. I was like,

1271
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I swear it was there. Okay, good. I was like, brain,

1272
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 1>don't start failing me now. There.

1273
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I was just I was fascinated by the beehive there.

1274
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know the beehive they got they got include

1275
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that right, So.

1276
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It's on the stool. What are we looking at your

1277
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 2>neck with the stool situation?

1278
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.639
<v Speaker 1>The horns to dude, the horns. Did you see those horns?

1279
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Horn sides?

1280
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what's interesting with that beehive formation, the

1281
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Speaker 3>way it's done it that looks just like the floor

1282
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the twin peaks inside the lodge.

1283
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 1>This type of hive, do you know this type of

1284
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 1>hive is actually really not a good hive for the

1285
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 1>bees that actually they die after the is harnessed from

1286
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 1>these ones. This is not a great, great sharing of

1287
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 1>like prosperousness like what they try to say. No, they

1288
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.360
<v Speaker 1>provide what they need to provide and then they die

1289
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:13.239
<v Speaker 1>with this type of.

1290
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I was wondering here, because this looks

1291
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 2>like a unique beehive. This is not a normal beehive, right,

1292
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, first of all, it's sitting on a stool.

1293
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Has something to do with it, the full legs and

1294
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:24.960
<v Speaker 3>all absolute.

1295
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 1>And the trumpets and all of it. I haven't counted

1296
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:30.399
<v Speaker 1>how many.

1297
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:34.560
<v Speaker 2>But so essentially the first act to bring them young, right,

1298
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.600
<v Speaker 2>because this is eighteen fifty three one of his first.

1299
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Acts, right yep, to play ball yep. But I'm surprised

1300
01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they didn't change their name yet on there. But maybe

1301
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they already had the stone done right right.

1302
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Got a handshake of yeah.

1303
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, do they still call themselves

1304
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.520
<v Speaker 2>desert and internally to the mothership? You know what I mean?

1305
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like, uh, now, only the only things that

1306
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Deseret is now they do name like their their can't

1307
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>goods and stuff like that on on those or anything

1308
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 1>produced by the church like food wise has desret on

1309
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it when it's internal, but not that I know they

1310
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 1>never say that now, but yeah, you know Beck cut

1311
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 1>out there for a second story about that.

1312
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you you see this number, your next two

1313
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:30.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty so the two undred twenty foot level of the

1314
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.399
<v Speaker 2>of the obelisk. Any significance you link to.

1315
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 3>That twenty two? Maybe that's that is interesting to think about.

1316
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird. Look at those trumpets too, you know,

1317
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the trumpets symbolize. I think there'll be a certain number

1318
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of them. I'd have to look at it better, but

1319
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's some significance there that that isn't just

1320
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on the outward. There's a lot of detail in this photo.

1321
01:09:57.479 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I see a number of trumpets here. I

1322
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 2>see one, two, three, four. Oh, it's really they kind

1323
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:09.520
<v Speaker 2>of blend in with the leaves at some point too, right.

1324
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seven, I see seven, a maybe and.

1325
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Then some maybe somebody you over here that were destroyed.

1326
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.560
<v Speaker 2>What happened here weathering?

1327
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't know, that's so weird. It's such a

1328
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:24.079
<v Speaker 1>weird thing for them to send, Like everybody else's was

1329
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like very you know, patriotic and stuff, and they sent this,

1330
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure I'm sure they were kind of like,

1331
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:33.199
<v Speaker 1>could you imagine the guy that unboxes it? Freaking Mormons?

1332
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Freakin' Mormons.

1333
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It kind of makes the questions, why did they send

1334
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 2>this in eighteen fifty three? They're at war with the

1335
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 2>US government?

1336
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Right? Well are they? Though? Because they helped finish the

1337
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 1>freaking uh the railroad and everything. Oh we're war with you,

1338
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:50.359
<v Speaker 1>but let us help you.

1339
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I would I would argue, either are the actions

1340
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of a secret society?

1341
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1342
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Yep?

1343
01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you know, you know, and I know that. I mean,

1344
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's more and it's more than freemason any people always

1345
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that that's low hanging fruit, you know, Yeah, for sure,

1346
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it's way further.

1347
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.439
<v Speaker 2>The uh. I totally agree. What are your what are

1348
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.279
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts that on the on the Mormons and their uh,

1349
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.640
<v Speaker 2>their secret activities in the eighteen fifties, eighteen fifties there,

1350
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they went to they went to Mexico, and

1351
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:25.399
<v Speaker 2>now they're doing American stuff still.

1352
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Something I was the Mexican cults love going to Mexico too.

1353
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Huh right.

1354
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Somebody just commented about Romney that's all about Mexico though, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all.

1355
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Those moments, you know, I still think something's up with that,

1356
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.800
<v Speaker 3>with with the moments down there in Mexico, I think

1357
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:41.760
<v Speaker 3>they're up to some weird ship. I could watch a

1358
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 3>special I couldn't remember why I watched it all where

1359
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:50.560
<v Speaker 3>they were covering it Romney and the cartel that's around. Yeah,

1360
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.920
<v Speaker 3>that disapols Vice, that DISAPPOLSI got war with. I don't

1361
01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:55.640
<v Speaker 3>know if it was Vice, but they did say. The

1362
01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 3>interesting thing is there's kids a lot of kids in

1363
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:06.760
<v Speaker 3>the cartel. Areas disappear and I'm wondering, like, it's the

1364
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:10.119
<v Speaker 3>cartel possibly getting the guns from the Mormons and they're

1365
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 3>taking their kids as payment.

1366
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we already seen that some of those Lebaran

1367
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 2>kids get marked. They were next to you Nanny's So

1368
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:21.159
<v Speaker 2>there's something going on there right.

1369
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:27.800
<v Speaker 1>One hun definitely. I mean every time you see the

1370
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 1>LeBaron show up, it's weird. And they have connects clear

1371
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 1>up to Hollywood. Speaking of Hollywood, because that Christine from

1372
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Sister Wives, she's a Libaron. Her grandpa was le Baron.

1373
01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I think she's directed.

1374
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 2>They're just as powerful within the Mothership, if not more

1375
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>than the Romneys.

1376
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. They just stay underneath unless they get

1377
01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:54.319
<v Speaker 1>pissed off and start killing everybody.

1378
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, they just.

1379
01:12:57.399 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 2>The Jeff's, the Romneys, they get all the attention, right,

1380
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I know.

1381
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's for sure. Well, you know, the Jeffs have

1382
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:09.239
<v Speaker 1>been definitely brought down twenty levels because they had to

1383
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 1>go build the bed that we knew should have been

1384
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 1>the altar in the first place. Stupid DNA.

1385
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 2>It makes me wonder what goes on with some of

1386
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.840
<v Speaker 2>these behind the scenes, except especially with these fundamentalists Mormon colts,

1387
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:24.840
<v Speaker 2>like what really is the precipitating events to really really

1388
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.319
<v Speaker 2>screwed Warren Jeffs over for example, you know what I mean,

1389
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 2>what caused him to really go in there and rest them?

1390
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Finally Texas well, the twelve year old. But I mean

1391
01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he had two babies with two twelve year olds, and

1392
01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.119
<v Speaker 1>he was pissing off everybody. So my brother in law

1393
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't right, No, but he was taking out enough men.

1394
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So my brother in law is Warren Jeff's nephew. I

1395
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:52.079
<v Speaker 1>think I've told you guys that before. But anyway, they

1396
01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:54.680
<v Speaker 1>went there, they went to Texas and they were helping

1397
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 1>build and he was giving them impossible tasks like build

1398
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the sewer system uphill. Well, sorry, that's not going to work,

1399
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but they were doing this to a lot of people,

1400
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and so they were doing it to take their wives,

1401
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and not so much him. He only had two wives.

1402
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.119
<v Speaker 1>But by the time he got home, he just said,

1403
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:19.479
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's like not. He was not being disrespectful.

1404
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:23.039
<v Speaker 1>He's the nicest guy ever. He was like, this doesn't

1405
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to work, you know. And so by

1406
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the time he got home, they said you have to go.

1407
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 1>You argued with the prophet. And remember this is his

1408
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.680
<v Speaker 1>uncle on two sides through mom and dad. And so

1409
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>by the time he got home, his wives were gone,

1410
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.359
<v Speaker 1>his kids were gone, everything was gone. He never saw

1411
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>him again for like eight years. But they then they

1412
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 1>proceeded further to take out his dad. And his dad

1413
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of wives I think thirteen maybe I

1414
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 1>can't remember specifically, but a lot of kids, and then

1415
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 1>they can take them because you didn't do the right thing,

1416
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:03.880
<v Speaker 1>or you didn't whatever, they can, you know, And so

1417
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 1>people started talking more. This leads to people getting upset

1418
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:12.520
<v Speaker 1>is the situation, saying like yeah, no, I mean, you

1419
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:14.720
<v Speaker 1>can't just keep taking all our wives and kids and

1420
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 1>kicking us out. And still they were still working and

1421
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 1>giving all the homage and money and everything, and yeah,

1422
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:25.439
<v Speaker 1>it was just super upsetting, you know, sure, every So

1423
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.199
<v Speaker 1>the more they did that, the more people were like

1424
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk. I think that was part of the undoing.

1425
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Is they just got greedy?

1426
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, It makes sense. Yeah, we got a

1427
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:38.239
<v Speaker 2>question here, who were the little barons there? In my opinion,

1428
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of the og fundamentalist right, everyone else, Oh yeah,

1429
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of broke off from them, right, the Romney's, the Jeffs,

1430
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.279
<v Speaker 2>everybody right, yeah, each other?

1431
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they did it again, just barely and like what

1432
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:55.279
<v Speaker 1>was it twenty seventeen or twenty sixteen, they had right,

1433
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:56.079
<v Speaker 1>but bout doubt.

1434
01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but their initial their initial separation within the family

1435
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.439
<v Speaker 2>was as a result of a murder between what two brothers.

1436
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, only can be one mighty and strong. You

1437
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:06.399
<v Speaker 1>better believe.

1438
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Exactly they went all Highlander on each other.

1439
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they did in the middle of the night, shooting

1440
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 1>up people's wives and kids. Man, like just going bananas. Yeah,

1441
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:25.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a crazy story, and they.

1442
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Give a crazy structure even even the Mexican versions of

1443
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 2>these compounds of a couple hundred miles south of this one,

1444
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're the Labarns and the Romney compounds down there.

1445
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:37.479
<v Speaker 2>This is the Jeff's compound near near literally in the

1446
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 2>literally in the middle of Texas. Like it's there's just

1447
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:41.960
<v Speaker 2>what's south of San Angelo.

1448
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Out in the middle of nowhere.

1449
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the actual the actual geographic center of Texas is

1450
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.600
<v Speaker 2>not far from here. So I was at Goodfellow Air

1451
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Force Base the day this got raided. Oh wow, yeah,

1452
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.600
<v Speaker 2>so they and they came in brief The FBI went

1453
01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and briefed Goodfellow. So I was there on a headquarters

1454
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:01.800
<v Speaker 2>inspection the unit and the operations officer. When I got

1455
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 2>there that morning, he says, you're gonna you can picked

1456
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a good day here to come first her base visit.

1457
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:07.079
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh yeah.

1458
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:08.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like yeah, sit down. He's like, we're about to

1459
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:10.479
<v Speaker 2>watch some good stuff. He's turning on the TV and stuff.

1460
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like describing me what's going on you know before

1461
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, what happened that morning, you know

1462
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:20.079
<v Speaker 2>or the day before. I guess maybe the FBI can

1463
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:23.399
<v Speaker 2>brief him and whatnot. As being the operations guy in

1464
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:25.000
<v Speaker 2>charge of all the cops are in the base there,

1465
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they used the base as a staging point

1466
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:28.600
<v Speaker 2>of if I remember correctly.

1467
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think, and they kept going through they

1468
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.640
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get in the temple like immediately. I can't remember

1469
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the story. I think they had to get somebody to

1470
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.640
<v Speaker 1>help them. They were trying not to desperate it. You know,

1471
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.359
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the right key, huh not apparently not.

1472
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 1>They're all about their keys, that's for sure. But yeah,

1473
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they found they found all a lot of mess and

1474
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 1>birth records being messed with, speaking of missing kids.

1475
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So.

1476
01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Apparently the FBI started their raid up their good Fellow

1477
01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base and then traveled the fifty or so

1478
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>miles down to the yf Z Ranch in the middle

1479
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere.

1480
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:15.399
<v Speaker 3>So wild.

1481
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just seems so odd because, like sign, they've

1482
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 2>had so many problems with scientology as far as not

1483
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:24.520
<v Speaker 2>reading their places. And again, you're not that far from

1484
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>the border. Although the the le Barons and the Romneys

1485
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:32.000
<v Speaker 2>are way over here just south of Belt Pass, just

1486
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.319
<v Speaker 2>south of Warre is like right in this region right here,

1487
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:38.640
<v Speaker 2>they're not really they're not really close, but it is

1488
01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a similar compound. Yeah, oh know, they're going for the

1489
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:43.960
<v Speaker 2>same aesthetics. I'm not sure what they're aiming for here.

1490
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 2>These are unique Mormon temples. Though, are they not?

1491
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 1>They they don't look like the others for sure. Yeah, yeah,

1492
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely not. I mean, I granted their budget is probably different,

1493
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but they also have a lot of laborers. I feel

1494
01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like they could have made them however, you know what, I'm.

1495
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, yeah, definitely, so many expenses, right, I don't

1496
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.039
<v Speaker 2>think now when it comes to building temples or at

1497
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:08.560
<v Speaker 2>least you know.

1498
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 1>He said he was working like almost twenty hours a

1499
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.319
<v Speaker 1>day like not. And you know they work for free, so.

1500
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:17.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, you know, they're just buying,

1501
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 2>they're religious buying materials at that point, mm hmm.

1502
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's all they were out. And they I mean

1503
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.680
<v Speaker 1>clearly they had enough money for Warren to go have himself,

1504
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, fancy cars and you know, wearing red and

1505
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 1>gambling and prostitutes. And I'm glad you.

1506
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you mentioned that because now I just remembered

1507
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:42.600
<v Speaker 2>they had another compound in what Arizona City, Arizona.

1508
01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:45.760
<v Speaker 1>In Colorado City, Yes.

1509
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Colorado City, Arizona, thank you, which is right on the border,

1510
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:55.399
<v Speaker 2>not far from the good folks ever at Best Friends

1511
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Animal Society, AK, the Processed Church and Canna.

1512
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Of Utah that's right. And they have another one in Hilldale.

1513
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 1>So what they used to do is there's a cave

1514
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.079
<v Speaker 1>with a tunnel in it, and Hilldale is in Utah,

1515
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:12.920
<v Speaker 1>but Colorado City is in Arizona. So when the cops

1516
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 1>would come for them in whichever state they were in,

1517
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 1>they would just go through the cave system to the

1518
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>other state.

1519
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Because that's.

1520
01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Not dumb on a lot ofies, I'll tell you.

1521
01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they might be, they might be in bred and

1522
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:30.680
<v Speaker 2>looking ridiculous, but they're not dommies right exactly.

1523
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And let alone the Kingston's that's another hole well that

1524
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:37.479
<v Speaker 1>they're they're heavy up here too in Colorado State, right

1525
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the Kingston's right.

1526
01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Look out, it is a canal, not even not even

1527
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 2>an hour's drive.

1528
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.119
<v Speaker 1>And I did another one with a guy. Oh and

1529
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.479
<v Speaker 1>it was one I'd never even heard of before. It

1530
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was called man, I should look into that again. Something

1531
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>friends something and and there's a he's like right next

1532
01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.439
<v Speaker 1>to Colorado City. But they don't speak. It's like, nope,

1533
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:04.479
<v Speaker 1>you don't enter, marry, none of that. And but they

1534
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>were all the same place for sex. Yeah, yep.

1535
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Turf war going on, got a Mormons turf war yep.

1536
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So the are you familiar with this fellow, Margarito Bautista.

1537
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:24.079
<v Speaker 2>He's an actual Mexican national Mormon fundamentalist cult leader.

1538
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh he was.

1539
01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:30.079
<v Speaker 2>His call was down by Mexico City. Wait, way further south,

1540
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:31.159
<v Speaker 2>way further south?

1541
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Makes you wonder, Like, I mean, clearly they were setting up.

1542
01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:39.239
<v Speaker 1>They were setting up so many things, because like String

1543
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:41.640
<v Speaker 1>went to Wisconsin and did it, and then we've got

1544
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the Canada branch Kingston's and these guys are in Mexico,

1545
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 1>like they were setting up a huge like situation here.

1546
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, then you got Joseph Smith. The third went to Independence, Missouri, right,

1547
01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry I went back to Kurland, right, Independance

1548
01:21:58.479 --> 01:21:59.159
<v Speaker 2>for one.

1549
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Of the two. Yeah, I thought it was. I don't

1550
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:02.079
<v Speaker 1>know for sure.

1551
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, they end up acquiring both properties at one point

1552
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in time, but I'm not sure which one was first.

1553
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Presumably it was probably Carling. It was less heat than Independence.

1554
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:14.239
<v Speaker 2>It was still legal to murder Mormon in Missouri until

1555
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:18.359
<v Speaker 2>like nineteen seventy two, so you can think Joseph Smith

1556
01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:18.800
<v Speaker 2>for that one.

1557
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the wives, you know, Mormon Hunton right, Oh my gosh.

1558
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they really built some pretty pretty large compounds

1559
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.640
<v Speaker 2>down here in Mexico. Again, it's slightly different than what

1560
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.600
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing there with the Jeffs compound. I'm surying to

1561
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:41.199
<v Speaker 2>bring up a good picture here of the le Baron

1562
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and Romney activities down there in Mexico. But you know it,

1563
01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:48.920
<v Speaker 2>seemingly they don't spare many expenses in these compounds, especially

1564
01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>not the lot. That's that's not a temple. Let me

1565
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 2>from the temple, that says that's the Steake Academy building.

1566
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's probably an administrative building for the steak. Why

1567
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 2>would they have their own steak kytie? They live on

1568
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 2>one compound?

1569
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know files No, just kidding, you know what I.

1570
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Mean though, Like, why would they need to stake the steak?

1571
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Is the regional organization, right, that's your y. You have

1572
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:17.800
<v Speaker 2>enormous numerous wards under the steak, So they have numerous

1573
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>wards on this one compound of the same thing. Is

1574
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:21.279
<v Speaker 2>that what you're telling me?

1575
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:24.039
<v Speaker 1>No, that's I mean usually if they have a small

1576
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:26.079
<v Speaker 1>enough area, they just do it at the church. Yeah,

1577
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:27.079
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make any sense.

1578
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird, right, What else are they doing out

1579
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>of this steak building?

1580
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Huh? That's it's not serving up delicious steaks. Maybe it's

1581
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:39.640
<v Speaker 1>very like the seventies parties, but less weird.

1582
01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, more weird.

1583
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Weird.

1584
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very seldom to things get less weird, they usually

1585
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>get weird, more weird.

1586
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:53.800
<v Speaker 3>It's actually weird. No coke, you know, there's no coke,

1587
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:54.680
<v Speaker 3>but somehow it's weird.

1588
01:23:55.960 --> 01:24:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm trying to find pictures of this. Oh yeah, right, yeah,

1589
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find pictures of the temple down there.

1590
01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And as I've seen it before in the Romney compound,

1591
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of unique. But I stumbled across this picture

1592
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:17.199
<v Speaker 2>from Smithsonian Mormon guy and Janos, Mexico Mormon guy John Hatch.

1593
01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming range hatches kin folk chats with a youngster

1594
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>at a seventeenth century Catholic church. What a weird image.

1595
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>What are we doing here?

1596
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.319
<v Speaker 1>People? You know what I mean? Right? And the kid

1597
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>looks kind of scared. Look at the.

1598
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Body posture, super freaked out. I'd be creeped out too

1599
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:36.399
<v Speaker 2>by that guy, quite honest, for sure. Here's Mitten's cousin.

1600
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he's one of he's one of those guys.

1601
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>You look at him, he's like, oh, that's a white fellow.

1602
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 2>And then he starts talking like, whoa dude, you like

1603
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the most Mexican dude I've ever heard? Really, you know,

1604
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:47.039
<v Speaker 2>you ever heard of them talk?

1605
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe?

1606
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, dude, he's he's as cholo as sounding

1607
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>as it gets. You know, you're like, wait a second, dude,

1608
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 2>where is this? Is this east last east side of

1609
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:57.199
<v Speaker 2>La What are we doing here?

1610
01:24:58.279 --> 01:24:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1611
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here we go, Here we go. This is the

1612
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Romney Temple. It's kind of it's more like the the

1613
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:11.640
<v Speaker 2>traditional style.

1614
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Temples, right, looks like Saint George, Yeah right.

1615
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Kind of the like the ones you see there in

1616
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>southern Utah. They're the uh, not quite as elaborate as

1617
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.439
<v Speaker 2>the Mothership, but you know they're they're fancy.

1618
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Wild, but the things they do, it's not the regular things.

1619
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>The things that that are hidden I'm sure just bananas. Yeah.

1620
01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's interesting because now they're being forced to

1621
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>build all these temples, right, and because the arrest is like, hey,

1622
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:50.039
<v Speaker 2>you can't send on all that money, you got to

1623
01:25:50.039 --> 01:25:53.279
<v Speaker 2>spend it. But they're not building temples like this anymore.

1624
01:25:56.079 --> 01:25:58.159
<v Speaker 2>What is this the Romney Temple? This is an official

1625
01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Mothership website? Wh would have on the official Mothership website.

1626
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's weird right Church of Jesus Christ Temples dot org. Right,

1627
01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>this is an official mothership website. But yetists, Yeah, that's well.

1628
01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, the fundamentalists don't want anything to do with

1629
01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream people, but vice versa. I would say they're

1630
01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>very prone to wanting to work together. I'm sure for

1631
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>enough money you could make it work. You know. I

1632
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>heard that the Kingston I think they all work. I

1633
01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>haven't verified, just so you guys know, but the Kingstons

1634
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>are extremely rich, and it's it's postulated that they are

1635
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:51.279
<v Speaker 1>involved in the Maverick gas stations. And also I heard

1636
01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that they brought they brought in a genesist to actually

1637
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>help them not have damaged children because they were they

1638
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.319
<v Speaker 1>believe the old way that they only have babies with

1639
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>like uncles and brothers and cousins, and you know, because

1640
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>they're keeping they say they have the divine right to

1641
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>rule and that their actual posterity of the royal bloodlines.

1642
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, so mayrivngine. Yeah, sure, sure, this.

1643
01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Is so that Mexican Margarito, but he'sta He started the

1644
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Third Convention fundamentalist of breakaway movement in nineteen thirty six. Right,

1645
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:34.159
<v Speaker 2>so this is after the polygamy stuff. So I'm not

1646
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.600
<v Speaker 2>exactly sure what Well, I have to get more into that,

1647
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>but maybe that's a good topic of conversation in the future.

1648
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Is one I was hoping to have there with with

1649
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Ray at Codegi's Codex of Curiosities, because he's the one

1650
01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>who been talking with him about a vampire satanic vampire

1651
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>drug trafficking cult. You know, Nick and I were discussing

1652
01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:53.159
<v Speaker 2>with him there.

1653
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh were you?

1654
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Were you with us on that one? Heidi?

1655
01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't that sounds fascinating?

1656
01:27:59.479 --> 01:27:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1657
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't didn't think so, Yeah it was. So it

1658
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>was yeah, Nick, go ahead, you probably has more details

1659
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:08.199
<v Speaker 2>than I do. And it was Magdalena Solis.

1660
01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, at least it was that because of

1661
01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:10.479
<v Speaker 3>the last name.

1662
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

1663
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wasn't that the one where it was uh yeah,

1664
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:18.760
<v Speaker 3>that was a screwed up one where like her brother

1665
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like technically pimping around at first, and

1666
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:24.399
<v Speaker 3>then I think like they started like kind of like

1667
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:26.880
<v Speaker 3>some cult. But I don't know, like, wasn't it to me?

1668
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it was like an operation possibly?

1669
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was definite an operation, right, she came in

1670
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and sees up a drug network. And like started being

1671
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>their vampire goddess. And that's the same thing Homboy did

1672
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>at the Madame Morris cult and Monterey, same Mexican state,

1673
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:41.439
<v Speaker 2>almost the same time.

1674
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:43.479
<v Speaker 3>It was even things that we remember. We even kind

1675
01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>of throw a little bit of like parallels between that

1676
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:49.239
<v Speaker 3>and I'll Alfonso Castanza kind of in a sense, I

1677
01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>think that when Julia covered.

1678
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, that's the Matta Morris one right there. There's

1679
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.399
<v Speaker 2>a lot of correlations between the two. And it seems

1680
01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>to be custounds that was being run by the Inner

1681
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Poll chief for or Mexico, who apparently get and you're

1682
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:05.760
<v Speaker 2>in right around these same times as these cults, the

1683
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Mattam Moros, this vampire cult just south of there with

1684
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Macalene and Solees. It seems like that Interpol dude gave

1685
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>up an American DEA agent undercover who was murdered up

1686
01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:17.199
<v Speaker 2>there by the Labaron compound about ten minutes away from it.

1687
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:22.199
<v Speaker 1>They don't play their straight up killers. They kill kids

1688
01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:24.039
<v Speaker 1>like in women. They don't care.

1689
01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this a lot to be said around that

1690
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:29.560
<v Speaker 2>vampire cult. But it was right that sent me down

1691
01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>that rabbit.

1692
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>All.

1693
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, you know what, I don't really understand

1694
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>the rest of this Mormon cult stuff in Mexico.

1695
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1696
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>And then I was shocked to see a late movement

1697
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen thirties of a Mexican national taking on

1698
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>a whole movement down by Mexico City. He would later

1699
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>be off in traditional Mormon cult leader fashion. Right, But

1700
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:51.039
<v Speaker 2>that's a different story altogether. But yeah, Monterey is a hotbed.

1701
01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>The is it Monterey? What's the where did that go down?

1702
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Where did Matta Morris go down? That's the province of

1703
01:29:58.319 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Monterey ors Mexican.

1704
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.640
<v Speaker 3>State of Maybe I don't remember that.

1705
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whatever I'm thinking of. Is it the city of Monterey?

1706
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>That the city of Monterey?

1707
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

1708
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>No, wait, no, you know it's the state of Monoey Okay, yeah,

1709
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that's where the Nexium compound was down there too. Oh shoot, yeah,

1710
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.399
<v Speaker 2>my god, Mexican. It was like I have a map

1711
01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of it somewhere, and I was saving here for that

1712
01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation with right, because I mapped out all the Mormon

1713
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:29.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff all, you know, So you know, I'll save it

1714
01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:30.079
<v Speaker 2>for that. But yeah, we'll get into that.

1715
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>It's in their time. Hopefully he'll do it with us especially,

1716
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:39.439
<v Speaker 1>come on, yeah, yes, the Mormons worship some people worship Quetzecadal.

1717
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>When you're talking about this, the quetze ocadal thing's going

1718
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:48.439
<v Speaker 1>to come into play. That's weird. Mm hmm. I think

1719
01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they've tried to squash that.

1720
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.359
<v Speaker 3>They think that's like basically Jesus. Well one one.

1721
01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Part of it. We were talking about how the Martins

1722
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>worship quitzecaddle gig yeah, mm hmm.

1723
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I do think there is some belief system there, right,

1724
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>there's something there, right, I'm not sure what it is,

1725
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>but there's something there.

1726
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a whole thing about that, and then

1727
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the church tried to shut that down real quick. But

1728
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:17.439
<v Speaker 1>then when we're talking about Jesus from the Mormons, and

1729
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I always do this with it because you know, they

1730
01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:24.279
<v Speaker 1>don't say that he was created by Holy Spirit and

1731
01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it was immaculate conception, like we know, what do they say?

1732
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>People laugh and got pissed at me because I said, no,

1733
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he did it with Mary. But people don't like that.

1734
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>So I'll tell you, guys how the prophets said it

1735
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus was created with passions just like any other

1736
01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:47.199
<v Speaker 1>man in the flesh. So there it is. I mean, there's.

1737
01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:51.399
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me that Jesus is an ancient alien.

1738
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:52.319
<v Speaker 1>That is what you're sorr. I think he is.

1739
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he's enophlom for them, not our gentius idea Jesus. Yeah,

1740
01:31:58.039 --> 01:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>that's the idea of quite a cuddle though, right, this

1741
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>is some sort of kind of ancient alien character, right,

1742
01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:04.680
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm, Nick, you've.

1743
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Done a lot of work on this, right, not talking

1744
01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>about I.

1745
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:12.159
<v Speaker 3>Really don't get to tell what quatzcatal. I don't really

1746
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:15.239
<v Speaker 3>understand that whole mason that means a woman connection too.

1747
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, was it the Shriners? Was it the Shriners?

1748
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that yeah, that they know the order

1749
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:25.760
<v Speaker 3>of Quatal is an in order. Well, it's an in

1750
01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>order of the Shriners.

1751
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are they? Who's quarts of coal to them?

1752
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Is he some sort of ancient alien cargo?

1753
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's like I guess basically that that idea in

1754
01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:38.800
<v Speaker 3>the Pyramid they do go to the pyramid. They have

1755
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.439
<v Speaker 3>the Feast of Fire ritual, uh that they do every

1756
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:44.760
<v Speaker 3>year that the roths Child uh actually fun.

1757
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Ross Child action huh moremon right there anything like that?

1758
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like if people were to go on like the

1759
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Feast of Fire, if they look it up like every year,

1760
01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>it will show you who their sponsors are. And you're like, oh,

1761
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>that's interesting. Your pain for that to happen. Oh boy,

1762
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:08.720
<v Speaker 3>some actual legit companies on the.

1763
01:33:10.039 --> 01:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Huh, doesn't surprise, doesn't surprise. I think they know a

1764
01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>good nephilone one when that when they see one right right,

1765
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the yeah, I.

1766
01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's uh, it fits right in line with their

1767
01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:25.199
<v Speaker 2>their systems.

1768
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1769
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:28.399
<v Speaker 2>So you know that you mentioned Skinwalker Ranch, right, Nick

1770
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Fugal.

1771
01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, he's Yeah, he's interesting.

1772
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on him?

1773
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>He loves this Mexican Yeah, Randle is very interesting. I

1774
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:44.399
<v Speaker 1>follow him on socials and I'll tell you with what

1775
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:48.199
<v Speaker 1>with what he posts, it's weird. But I will tell

1776
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys this, since he's on Skinwalker Ranch, he'll shoot

1777
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you if you go out there.

1778
01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Psh, straight up, Well he won't shoot you, but that

1779
01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>weird fella's got their cobra or whatever.

1780
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He's had a security will right, yep, exactly, and they

1781
01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>don't play.

1782
01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So he loves Mexico. So before he bought Skinwalker Ranch,

1783
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he used to used to do a a Mormon tourism

1784
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:17.359
<v Speaker 2>exploring Indiana Jones style trips down to Mexico to find

1785
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the actual sites from the Book of Mormon.

1786
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Mmm, like yeah, I.

1787
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Had I didn't know he did that. But when we

1788
01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:27.039
<v Speaker 3>covered the Stillwalker Ranch, well, I don't know how many

1789
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>episodes it was. At one point I did say that

1790
01:34:28.960 --> 01:34:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I even found tours there were species specifically for Mormons

1791
01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:34.439
<v Speaker 3>to go to that pyramid.

1792
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he probably owned that company. That's him on the

1793
01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>far left right there.

1794
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, that's weird up in Hawaii too. He's buying

1795
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:45.840
<v Speaker 3>up a ton of property.

1796
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Ha ha Hawaii. You mean where the Mormons infiltrated during

1797
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.159
<v Speaker 1>the time of Howard Hughes and took over the Polynesian

1798
01:34:55.319 --> 01:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Center And uh, then there was the Marriotte Yeah, opened

1799
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>up Blue Blue Origin or Blue something, I can't remember,

1800
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>something blue hotel there. Yeah.

1801
01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm currently so frustrated, even more than I previously was

1802
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>with Brandon Fugel. As I went to go search for

1803
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:18.520
<v Speaker 2>his former Mexican Mormon tourism company. The first hit I

1804
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>get is Brandon Fugal Mormon Battalion UFO siding eighteen forty six.

1805
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Get the fuck out of here. We got that Revolutionary

1806
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Army War UFO sidings. Come on, Brandon Fugels, it's stuffed

1807
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the war yeah, dude, it says a concise history of

1808
01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>the Mormon battalion of the Mexican War. So apparently the

1809
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Mormons fought and the Mexican War I didn't know, and

1810
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:46.359
<v Speaker 2>then apparently the UFO siding, So I have to sadly,

1811
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I have to read about this later because I don't

1812
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:49.359
<v Speaker 2>want to read about it right now. I'm over the

1813
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>ancient alien cargo cults right now with these guys, I'll

1814
01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>tell you what. There's it's so ridiculous. So who is

1815
01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>like who was Brandon Fugel though in and you know

1816
01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:04.199
<v Speaker 2>the the Utah and mixed because like the utes, I'm

1817
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:05.800
<v Speaker 2>sorry of the ute mix? What do you all call it?

1818
01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:06.479
<v Speaker 2>The utes?

1819
01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>The two ut Yeah? Yeah, the utes? Uh huh, it's

1820
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>like that from uh you know the my cousin Venice

1821
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>is the utes. He's like, what are you saying? The utes?

1822
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Us?

1823
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? The es Yeah, no, he he's definitely uh in

1824
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the club. Yeah, rich people ship all all about it.

1825
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And you can't even get him to like interview or

1826
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>go there anything unless you're like way up there, you know,

1827
01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>or or going to give him a bunch of money,

1828
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like what's his name? That does the silly ghost show

1829
01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:47.479
<v Speaker 1>ghost adventure thing, you know, like, yeah, it's got to

1830
01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>be like something like that, if it's anything actually historical

1831
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I don't think he does that unless it's

1832
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for buddies, right, like in Utah. Yeah, the elite.

1833
01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've gotten that same vibe from guy too, So

1834
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like he's basically been given an entire empire, the real

1835
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:06.399
<v Speaker 2>estate stuff for the right, Like he's just kind of

1836
01:37:06.439 --> 01:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>a frontman. Almost seems like in that operation, he's because

1837
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he's an idiot. He listened to the guy talk, He's

1838
01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:12.800
<v Speaker 2>an idiot. I have a friend, I want my dude

1839
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.800
<v Speaker 2>detective portal. He frequently trolls Brandon Fugel on Twister and

1840
01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it says the most ridiculou stuff and gets Fugle to

1841
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:21.239
<v Speaker 2>retweet him like this is this guy moron? Does he

1842
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>not realize that you're throwing him? And they'll retweet it

1843
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.399
<v Speaker 2>like he's a fan or something. I don't know, but

1844
01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>listen to the guy talk, you feel like he's stuck

1845
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>in like a very early teenage mentality. He never progressed

1846
01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>past that.

1847
01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Dude sweet.

1848
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Just kidding, right, that's no, that's exactly the kind of

1849
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:41.119
<v Speaker 2>attitude he portrays.

1850
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Wow, So are you familiarly with the Yeah,

1851
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they're blood he's probably bloodline. I don't know for sure.

1852
01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen.

1853
01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh he is.

1854
01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:52.199
<v Speaker 2>They started one of the towns up there, and they

1855
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:54.720
<v Speaker 2>were they were his family were all bishops in the

1856
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:57.359
<v Speaker 2>ward in that town for many years. So he's definitely

1857
01:37:57.359 --> 01:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>in the mix. I don't know. I don't know how

1858
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:00.720
<v Speaker 2>like what it looks like going. I just know, like

1859
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>his father and grandfather and great grandfather, you know, they're

1860
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:06.159
<v Speaker 2>all in this one town. They're just north of Salt Lake.

1861
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the name of the town off the

1862
01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>top of my head, but I'll look it.

1863
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Up and JJ go down a rabbit hole on like

1864
01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>some famous Mormon person. They're always in the club. They're

1865
01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>always the bloodline. Like genealogy wise, it's in the club.

1866
01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, it's without fail, it seems right.

1867
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Literally. Yeah.

1868
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Are you are you familiar with a fellow by the

1869
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>name of Stephen green Street who's done a series on

1870
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Skinwalker Ranch and other UFO nonsense for the New York Post.

1871
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Huh uh. He's a former he grew up Mormon.

1872
01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.319
<v Speaker 2>He's went on a mission, and Fugel actually invited him

1873
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:46.840
<v Speaker 2>out to the ranch to try to prove that there

1874
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>was a bunch you know, you know, a bunch.

1875
01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Of on going on on Netflix or something.

1876
01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I saw that he did it on his

1877
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>own New York Post series on YouTube.

1878
01:38:56.560 --> 01:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it was like a six part.

1879
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>And all the more.

1880
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, for Yougle's pretty tight lipped, like you

1881
01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>were saying, they're hot. He only does highly produced shows

1882
01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>that he produces. There on the Skinwalker ranch show, he's

1883
01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the executive producer, so he goes and says what goes

1884
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>on that screen. But he gave time to Stephen green

1885
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Street on account of his background. I think because he

1886
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>was a Mormon, you know then you know, and he's

1887
01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>also a grad from not from BYU. But where did

1888
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:23.359
<v Speaker 2>where did?

1889
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You?

1890
01:39:27.079 --> 01:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>So you know.

1891
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why I gave him, you know, the

1892
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>invitation and some time because it's it was horrible press.

1893
01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Probably remember of the School and Bones, probably a member

1894
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>of the School and Bone Society of and you guys

1895
01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>should watch my son. I had never really put two

1896
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and two together with like esoteric type stuff. I knew

1897
01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>about Skull and Bones, but on the outward and my

1898
01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>son's like, mom, I went to this game and they

1899
01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>do weird stuff like they hold their hands and they

1900
01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>chant a certain way for the football team and they

1901
01:39:56.319 --> 01:39:58.359
<v Speaker 1>call it charging the house. And I was like, what

1902
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the hell and he he's like yeah, and he told

1903
01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>me all about it. I tried to find a video

1904
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of it, but I hadn't found when. I mean, I

1905
01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:08.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't do the biggest deep dive that day, but he

1906
01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was telling me all these different things and something about

1907
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a torch and I was like, yeah, I hope you

1908
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:17.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't participate in any of that, and he's like, I'm

1909
01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:22.159
<v Speaker 1>not stupid. I didn't do that, right. I was like, good, yeah,

1910
01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what why are they doing that at a football game?

1911
01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1912
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>That seems odd right, charging the house? And then something

1913
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>about the light and there was a torch, and I'm like, yeah,

1914
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>this sounds like.

1915
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Some very ratualistic stuff. Huh.

1916
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was like, wow, Okay, then that's weird.

1917
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wasn't familiar there was the skull and Bones

1918
01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>out there in Utah until a few years ago my

1919
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>dude Recklesser the Farm Mack two podcast that brought that

1920
01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>to my attention. I was like, holy shit, that's that's

1921
01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>odd because you know, Bob Benning went there right and

1922
01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying Bill Bennett Bob, but yeah, I was gonna

1923
01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:03.279
<v Speaker 2>mixed up with his nephew, who's my bishop, you know,

1924
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>his Bill and Bill and I had a lot of

1925
01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>beef because he wanted to he wanted me to pay

1926
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:11.880
<v Speaker 2>tie thing. I want nothing to do with it. So

1927
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you're like, did he gived me recommends those still to

1928
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>go to the temple? I was like, why are you

1929
01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>recommended me still? I'm not following the rules.

1930
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, well that's okay, let me go in

1931
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>do my little chanting. No, just kidding, Yeah, it was.

1932
01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I just never None of that stuff ever sat well

1933
01:41:31.239 --> 01:41:33.279
<v Speaker 2>with me, the whole recommends the meetings. Like, you know,

1934
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm asking me questions. Let me ask you a few

1935
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:37.439
<v Speaker 2>questions here, buddy, what's uh what are you up to

1936
01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>in your off time? Let me see your phone, Let

1937
01:41:39.640 --> 01:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>me see your stuff. You're criticizing me here, Bud, you're

1938
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the judge of you. Yeah, these are the conversations old Bill,

1939
01:41:46.960 --> 01:41:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Bob's nephew and I would have when he's my bishop.

1940
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know they're There's definitely some strange things, especially

1941
01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>where it's never been done anywhere else, but they did

1942
01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:00.199
<v Speaker 1>it here, right, and We know why because the fanamily

1943
01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that set it up is Mormons, like the family.

1944
01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point, and these people all stay together

1945
01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:09.479
<v Speaker 2>and it is generational. So on that note, not only

1946
01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>was Bob Bennett's nephew my bishop in Cincinnati, Ohio, which

1947
01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>is weird right when you started compining these other factors,

1948
01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I also grew up with a Lyman and the paternal

1949
01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:23.079
<v Speaker 2>descendant from Oza Lyman, one of the original twelve apostles

1950
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.119
<v Speaker 2>of Joseph Smith. I also grew up the same age

1951
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:29.279
<v Speaker 2>group as well from a paternal descendant of uh A.

1952
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Holland was an alma home. One of the was another

1953
01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:36.239
<v Speaker 2>early church leader, Holland. Oh Man, we we had we

1954
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>had Beck's. We had Beck's there, we had we had,

1955
01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:40.319
<v Speaker 2>we had all of the family.

1956
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Taylors, Taylor's. Uh did we have Taylor's.

1957
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:47.079
<v Speaker 2>We might not have had Taylor. So my my Boy

1958
01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Scout troop leader's wife was a descendant of Joseph Smith.

1959
01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

1960
01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:54.439
<v Speaker 3>So we we had a lot of weird representation the

1961
01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Taylor's to the Boy Scouts somehow.

1962
01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Well the Mormons. The Mormons comprised like forty percent of

1963
01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the Boy Scout you know, membership, so until a few

1964
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:08.039
<v Speaker 2>years ago when they pulled out. I should play out

1965
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot sooner, just like the Boy Scout leaders should have.

1966
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so one exactly.

1967
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>One of the I had. I had a good time

1968
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:19.399
<v Speaker 2>in the Boy Scouts and the Mormons. I had no problems.

1969
01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I've obviously read a lot of problems

1970
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:25.840
<v Speaker 2>from the Mormon Boy Scouts as well. But where's one

1971
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>of the early the first Boy Scout class action lawsuits

1972
01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>for Diddlan was actually out of you know, the Boy

1973
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Scouts are the root of some of the recruitment allegedly

1974
01:43:36.239 --> 01:43:38.479
<v Speaker 2>in the son of Sam Colet there in Westchester County,

1975
01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:42.239
<v Speaker 2>New York, according to Morty Terry's research and whatnot. Strangely enough,

1976
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it seems like that activity didn't stop at

1977
01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the state line, because right across the state line there

1978
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>in Ridgefield, Connecticut, where my works in this begin that

1979
01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Boy Scout troop there, or Boy Scout Council, and three

1980
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:57.399
<v Speaker 2>troops under that council. They had a lot of problems.

1981
01:43:57.399 --> 01:43:59.079
<v Speaker 2>And that was that was either the first or the

1982
01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:01.560
<v Speaker 2>second class Act in lawsuit against the Boy Scouts, which

1983
01:44:01.600 --> 01:44:04.359
<v Speaker 2>would ultimately and in the end cause the Mormons to

1984
01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:08.159
<v Speaker 2>depart the boys, despite them having the precise same problems

1985
01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>within their boy Scout program.

1986
01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So bit hypocritical of of course, right, well, isn't that

1987
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly that?

1988
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1989
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Always hypocritical? Is I thought? Part of your temple questions?

1990
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Ah huh, just kidding.

1991
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:25.359
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of their m right, what's the password to

1992
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>get in the temple? Hypocrite?

1993
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, exactly, come on, it's but I mean, honestly,

1994
01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:34.439
<v Speaker 1>if you bring up like even skull and bones to

1995
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>their own members, like the prophet currently Russell M. Nelson

1996
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>wrote in his own autobiography about it, and they'll tell

1997
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you you're a liar straight to your face.

1998
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1999
01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Why, Oh the official story today, So they're still trying

2000
01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:51.800
<v Speaker 2>to push at least they were for a while right

2001
01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:54.479
<v Speaker 2>that there was no sear stone and hat it was.

2002
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It was glasses with some lenses. They were given to

2003
01:44:58.399 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Joseph by God or something.

2004
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Right was the story for a while, the breastplate of

2005
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>righteousness and the um, much like the Jewish story. And

2006
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean we get into you know, Jewish past history.

2007
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so interesting that they say, no, these

2008
01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:21.039
<v Speaker 1>people Joseph Smith didn't even know English, but he's studying

2009
01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:24.439
<v Speaker 1>how to how to do all this other stuff. And

2010
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and why right, if he's a dumb farm boy, sure.

2011
01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:36.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right, supers apparently processed church members. Yeah, so Joseph

2012
01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Smith could was so well versed in the ancient languages.

2013
01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:40.680
<v Speaker 2>He could read the ancient Egyptian right.

2014
01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, his uh, his uncle, that helped. And that's a

2015
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>good one to start. Dartmouth. Sure knew how to speak

2016
01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.199
<v Speaker 1>languages since he was Oh no, it was a cousin,

2017
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>professor of languages and one of the first at Dartmouth.

2018
01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And then await, his other cousin doctor saved his leg.

2019
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, that's right at Dartmouth, right.

2020
01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>A cousin, and then they chased him out of town.

2021
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:11.439
<v Speaker 1>And that's why Hiram couldn't finish his schooling to become

2022
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>basically a priest. To these when people's hear the Indian school,

2023
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Indians were there. That's not what it was.

2024
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:23.039
<v Speaker 1>They were teaching them how to be like priests type thing,

2025
01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to go out and teach the Native Americans. It didn't

2026
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>have to do with them coming there. And so I

2027
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:32.479
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny everybody always says, oh, that's not the same,

2028
01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, well, okay, Nathan, that saved and she

2029
01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:39.119
<v Speaker 1>just calls him in her This is from Lucy Max

2030
01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Smith's book Nathan, doctor Nathan. She didn't say Nathan Smith.

2031
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That was his name, right, Yeah, cousin on both sides

2032
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to both of them, the mother and the father. And

2033
01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>he got chased out of town for body snatching for

2034
01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the medical school, and then he went and started Yale's

2035
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:03.800
<v Speaker 1>medical school. He is the father of Yale's Medical School,

2036
01:47:04.039 --> 01:47:08.039
<v Speaker 1>doctor Nathan Smith. I gotta do a whole episode. I

2037
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>should probably have you do that with me, because that

2038
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:12.039
<v Speaker 1>would be a good one on High Ram or we

2039
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>could do it on the year down. I've got a

2040
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of information about that. I wrote a whole

2041
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>like five page essay front and back this.

2042
01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sounds a.

2043
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it'll interest.

2044
01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:29.199
<v Speaker 2>All these schools started that way, right. They were all

2045
01:47:29.279 --> 01:47:32.399
<v Speaker 2>religious schools, right for teaching folks how to be priests

2046
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. And you know today and today they produce

2047
01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>things like tampons and men's restrooms. I think that was

2048
01:47:38.119 --> 01:47:43.439
<v Speaker 2>as well. But the dumbest woth women have periods.

2049
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, dumbest thing ever that they sit there and say,

2050
01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>these people are uneducated farm people and I'm like, get

2051
01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the hell out of here, stop it stop.

2052
01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, then what do you call this? What do you

2053
01:47:57.199 --> 01:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>call the administrator that made the call to installed tampons

2054
01:47:59.880 --> 01:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>andless educated because they seem educated.

2055
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a little different, right, That's that's today's ridiculousness that

2056
01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:14.119
<v Speaker 1>we all are in this weird timeline with oh my gosh. Yeah.

2057
01:48:14.520 --> 01:48:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Look, also have to look at fugels genealogy because I'm

2058
01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:19.520
<v Speaker 2>almost convinced he's got to be like a probably Brad

2059
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:22.359
<v Speaker 2>or an Oliver Calgary type of character, right, one of

2060
01:48:22.399 --> 01:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>those guys.

2061
01:48:22.880 --> 01:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, he's an Elon. He just was given the stuff

2062
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>and said here you go, and it doesn't make any sense.

2063
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

2064
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh he talked too much ship on Brandon.

2065
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.199
<v Speaker 3>I find interesting. But Brandon too? Is that what that

2066
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:45.399
<v Speaker 3>that company that he has, it's like a fake it's

2067
01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:46.479
<v Speaker 3>something from a comic book.

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01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Correct, It's some weird company and he doesn't do anything

2069
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.079
<v Speaker 1>with it. And yes, you're back the company he was

2070
01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:57.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about Brandon's company.

2071
01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:01.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like Adam anti Emiside. I don't know, he's got a.

2072
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that weird science thing he tries he claims to do.

2073
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like a comic book though too.

2074
01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what it is, dude. And guess where

2075
01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>he got that idea from? Hal put Off O T

2076
01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:17.000
<v Speaker 2>seven scientillog just an Aviary member UFO U, a p

2077
01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:21.279
<v Speaker 2>psyopic straordinaire recently seen on the Joe Rogan Experience, of course.

2078
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:23.720
<v Speaker 2>But you know this is the guy from SRI to

2079
01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the Aviary in the nineties, to the Stars Academy with

2080
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Tom DeLong. He's just been lying to people without fucking

2081
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>alien stuff for decades and he's a high ranking scientologist.

2082
01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:34.520
<v Speaker 2>So when you say, dude names after comic book, I'm

2083
01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. Again, he does,

2084
01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:39.800
<v Speaker 2>he gets, he gets, he tries to stir up money

2085
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>around these inventions and he's never produced anything.

2086
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just all Charlatan stuff. You know.

2087
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, I find interesting is with him you get like

2088
01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:48.039
<v Speaker 3>that about that, you get that type of name coming

2089
01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:50.359
<v Speaker 3>from like comic book ship. I think it's like the

2090
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:52.439
<v Speaker 3>metal that was like in Wolverine and everything it or

2091
01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:53.000
<v Speaker 3>something like that.

2092
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:54.479
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what that is.

2093
01:49:54.720 --> 01:49:56.680
<v Speaker 3>And then you got and then he got Peter Teal

2094
01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:58.319
<v Speaker 3>with his like what is Lord of the Rings and

2095
01:49:58.439 --> 01:50:02.520
<v Speaker 3>fucking like they both have like very weird show their

2096
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:06.680
<v Speaker 3>companies off of like fictional ship yop. And they're into

2097
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:07.520
<v Speaker 3>like weird stuff.

2098
01:50:09.119 --> 01:50:10.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was getting at with them being stuck

2099
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:12.960
<v Speaker 2>in a childlike mentality as well. He's if you look

2100
01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>at his office, it's all this coming book and movie

2101
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>memorabilia stuff.

2102
01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh he's yeah, obsessed.

2103
01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:22.439
<v Speaker 2>He talks like a teenager. Oh dude, he's built. I'll

2104
01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:24.119
<v Speaker 2>put a link and again in the description with this

2105
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Stephen green Street series from New York Post. But he

2106
01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>tells green Street he's building a Scooby Doo funhouse for

2107
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Halloween for the kids for Halloween. Just just wild ass

2108
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:33.560
<v Speaker 2>ship like that, dude, just wild ass.

2109
01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Ship, so weird. And he's down in the middle of

2110
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the full.

2111
01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Blown haunted house, like a mansion, full one haunted mansion.

2112
01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we should go.

2113
01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Like this lady's look at this lady's asking about Jamatra.

2114
01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, I can't answer that they're telltale,

2115
01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:50.720
<v Speaker 2>but uh, you're talking Nick. He's got a wide range

2116
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of experience in Jamatra.

2117
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go check. We actually just had a guest on

2118
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.560
<v Speaker 3>a few days ago live I think, yeah, yeah, we've

2119
01:50:58.039 --> 01:51:00.199
<v Speaker 3>I've even myself have even covered. I think we have

2120
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:02.640
<v Speaker 3>a few parts at two parts series on Jamachi and Cipher,

2121
01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:04.479
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it might be like a year or two

2122
01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:06.279
<v Speaker 3>old now, but definitely go check it out if you're

2123
01:51:06.319 --> 01:51:08.199
<v Speaker 3>looking for Jamatia. The cult reject definitely has it.

2124
01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Rejects has lots, lots and lots and lots.

2125
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Next NeXT's been pumping stuff out left and right.

2126
01:51:16.479 --> 01:51:18.239
<v Speaker 3>The should I put out like two years ago. I

2127
01:51:18.359 --> 01:51:22.520
<v Speaker 3>don't even realize these things. I'm I'll tell JJ and

2128
01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:23.720
<v Speaker 3>you'd be like, oh, I didn't even know you did.

2129
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>That, And that happens a lot actually ship all right,

2130
01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:28.359
<v Speaker 2>And I've gone to check out some of those, and

2131
01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I listened to Jamatra so like I an interest, me,

2132
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know much about it, but I

2133
01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:35.119
<v Speaker 2>just know that you you often covered from a lot

2134
01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:35.880
<v Speaker 2>of different angles.

2135
01:51:36.720 --> 01:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah even yeah, if you even use it in true crime,

2136
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:41.840
<v Speaker 3>which I thought was weird. Remember I was saying that

2137
01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:44.319
<v Speaker 3>there's a couple of cases, I think with the Idaho

2138
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:46.640
<v Speaker 3>for Gilgo and one other one. I was getting a

2139
01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:48.359
<v Speaker 3>lot of the same repeating numbers, and I was like,

2140
01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:51.000
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck. Yeah, it was like, this is like

2141
01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:56.319
<v Speaker 3>the code to like mass murder fucking weird. Oh yeah,

2142
01:51:56.359 --> 01:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>well that too. Yeah, yeah, that's the code of the play. Yeah.

2143
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think did An alone by any stretched the imagination.

2144
01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:06.079
<v Speaker 2>In fact, the evidence seems to support his wife as

2145
01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:07.680
<v Speaker 2>more and more involvement than he does.

2146
01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:10.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that if you really think about it,

2147
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:12.359
<v Speaker 3>as well, evidence of her on the bodies than him,

2148
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:14.720
<v Speaker 3>if anything right right, and she.

2149
01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Has just this questionable alibi. She's like, oh, no, I

2150
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was out of town. I did outtown stuff. And then

2151
01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:21.279
<v Speaker 2>remember John Reagan, his assistant followed up on that, and

2152
01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:24.039
<v Speaker 2>that story was bullshit. Remember yeah, they got evidence from

2153
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.119
<v Speaker 2>that hotel to that story was bullshit. Yeh, I say

2154
01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:29.319
<v Speaker 2>his assistant Lena, and you know, they were both very

2155
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:31.359
<v Speaker 2>far more knowledgeable than us in that case. But we

2156
01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>should have the money again to having our discussion.

2157
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Yo, you know what, you know what sucks. He wanted

2158
01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to do another press conference and he was gonna have

2159
01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:39.920
<v Speaker 3>me come down and filming, and I had already left New.

2160
01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.039
<v Speaker 2>York, and I was like, oh that does suck, man.

2161
01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Yo. They literally had hit me up and asked me

2162
01:52:44.039 --> 01:52:49.039
<v Speaker 3>to do that. I was like fuck. I was like yo,

2163
01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:51.520
<v Speaker 3>because that ship would have made Channel twelve news. It

2164
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:54.279
<v Speaker 3>always does whatever egos on that. I mean that would

2165
01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:57.319
<v Speaker 3>have been been provided, yeah, I mean provided by the

2166
01:52:57.359 --> 01:52:59.159
<v Speaker 3>occult reach that would have been on the bottom. I

2167
01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:00.840
<v Speaker 3>would have made sure that was Oh yeah.

2168
01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Right Now we should think back up with them to

2169
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:06.920
<v Speaker 2>see they got any updates, because I know, well recently

2170
01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:10.119
<v Speaker 2>in that case, it's been finally made public that authorm labs.

2171
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.199
<v Speaker 2>The same folks at the root of the Brian Coberger

2172
01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:16.439
<v Speaker 2>questionable sheath DNA touch DNA is the folks who are

2173
01:53:16.479 --> 01:53:20.720
<v Speaker 2>involved with identifying Yearman vias similar touch DNA off of

2174
01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:21.520
<v Speaker 2>a piece of pizza.

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01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 3>So I have all the questions about that, and then

2176
01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:26.439
<v Speaker 3>they uses bullshit man.

2177
01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Wife's hairs, right, what's that, Heidi?

2178
01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Of course it was a pizza. Of course it was

2179
01:53:34.279 --> 01:53:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a pizza.

2180
01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with this story of the humor.

2181
01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:43.159
<v Speaker 1>No, But I'm just dissecting the situation and saying that

2182
01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:44.199
<v Speaker 1>seems weird.

2183
01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You have an accurate assessment, man, of the circumstances we're discussing,

2184
01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:49.720
<v Speaker 2>because if I were to allow the details, you'd be like,

2185
01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that's even more suspect than my initial net Like my

2186
01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:55.479
<v Speaker 2>initial suspicion, it's very suspect. The whole the way this

2187
01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:57.800
<v Speaker 2>whole thing went down and the way they landed on

2188
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:00.600
<v Speaker 2>the student and the chief of police who got fired.

2189
01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:06.319
<v Speaker 2>He's involved in ostensibly snuff porn, but definitely for snuff films,

2190
01:54:06.319 --> 01:54:08.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, definitely snuff films and child porn allegedly, but

2191
01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:11.479
<v Speaker 2>definitely deeply involved in this prostitution network, in some sort

2192
01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:14.680
<v Speaker 2>of pornography filming. This crackhead kicked in his car one

2193
01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:16.640
<v Speaker 2>day one night of his of his uh you know,

2194
01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:20.079
<v Speaker 2>unmarked s UV and solo duffel bag. They looked at

2195
01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:22.800
<v Speaker 2>crackhead over so bad. They beat that dude senseless.

2196
01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:33.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, listen, I think that whole thing is a

2197
01:54:33.239 --> 01:54:34.960
<v Speaker 3>sigh of I think. I mean, I think a lot

2198
01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:37.399
<v Speaker 3>of it's a bullshit story, like the way they're presenting it,

2199
01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the way that they're even cash now you know what

2200
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:41.159
<v Speaker 3>it sounds like.

2201
01:54:41.359 --> 01:54:42.359
<v Speaker 2>There you go, That's what that was.

2202
01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:42.680
<v Speaker 3>That was.

2203
01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:44.279
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point in my summary where I was

2204
01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:47.399
<v Speaker 2>going into a bullshit story the way because there's no

2205
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:49.279
<v Speaker 2>way you have this this police chief dude, it's all

2206
01:54:49.279 --> 01:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>all this other shady stuff going on, and Huerman's the

2207
01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:54.479
<v Speaker 2>only guy and you have almost no evidence. Again stuff

2208
01:54:54.479 --> 01:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>for pizza cross you you want to this.

2209
01:54:56.399 --> 01:54:57.319
<v Speaker 3>This is how I look at it.

2210
01:54:57.560 --> 01:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I know this.

2211
01:54:58.000 --> 01:54:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be taking it, taking it out there. But

2212
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:02.119
<v Speaker 3>and if I was, if I was to pull it up,

2213
01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:04.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to. Maybe I'll spend the time and

2214
01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:07.239
<v Speaker 3>show it before we end the show, so it's not crazy.

2215
01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:10.560
<v Speaker 3>When I talk about the optic nerve. It does like

2216
01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I said, it looks like a penis or a dick

2217
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of. And they show you when it gets cut

2218
01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:18.960
<v Speaker 3>down the middle what it looks like that way, and

2219
01:55:19.039 --> 01:55:21.520
<v Speaker 3>it looks like a fucking wheel or a goddamn fucking

2220
01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:24.479
<v Speaker 3>pizza pie. It looks like a pizza pie. And that

2221
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:27.560
<v Speaker 3>hangs right into the It's basically a cup in the

2222
01:55:27.600 --> 01:55:29.439
<v Speaker 3>back of your eye that has the blood in there,

2223
01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:32.399
<v Speaker 3>and you have this optic nerve that's hanging in there.

2224
01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Now think about it. It's like this story starts off

2225
01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the only reason we know Hureman is because of this

2226
01:55:39.159 --> 01:55:41.880
<v Speaker 3>pizza box, and then there's a bunch of murder and

2227
01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:43.960
<v Speaker 3>it all ends up with people being buried at the beach.

2228
01:55:44.039 --> 01:55:46.880
<v Speaker 3>So now you have the blood with the pizza. And

2229
01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:48.680
<v Speaker 3>then at the beginning of the eye where you see

2230
01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:52.479
<v Speaker 3>everything is water and sand kind of, so this to

2231
01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:54.039
<v Speaker 3>me is just like you even see like the whole

2232
01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:57.319
<v Speaker 3>progression of like how the crimes ended and where. I

2233
01:55:57.359 --> 01:55:59.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know. It's just there was too much weird shit

2234
01:55:59.720 --> 01:56:01.680
<v Speaker 3>without crime. Even with the Jamatra, there was too many

2235
01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:03.840
<v Speaker 3>things that matched up. There was even things with him

2236
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:06.560
<v Speaker 3>and BTK that match and BTK claimed that he was

2237
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:07.119
<v Speaker 3>a copycat.

2238
01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Why is there always homeless guys? Even at JFK, Like

2239
01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>there was the Three Tramps, right, there's always some homeless yeah,

2240
01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>blamed you.

2241
01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:18.760
<v Speaker 3>There was tons of things. So coming out of the

2242
01:56:18.800 --> 01:56:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Book of the Lies too, there was a beaches, there's

2243
01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:25.640
<v Speaker 3>an oyster Bay. It was weird shit. It's weird shit.

2244
01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:29.199
<v Speaker 2>And in the Three Tramps, I think in the JFK situation,

2245
01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:31.800
<v Speaker 2>at least in the King killed thirty three cents, those

2246
01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:35.800
<v Speaker 2>are representative of Masonic focal or correct, right, And then they.

2247
01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Never they they just basically got them out of there.

2248
01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:41.720
<v Speaker 1>That was all they did. Like it was just they

2249
01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>were like just helping walk it out.

2250
01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>How do they walk through the Masonic temple there and

2251
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:49.880
<v Speaker 2>deallyally dealis believe at one point time and then.

2252
01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>They're like go get go get the the tramps and

2253
01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:55.239
<v Speaker 1>then they picked them up and then that was all

2254
01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard and it was done. Never heard about

2255
01:56:58.600 --> 01:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that again.

2256
01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:01.279
<v Speaker 2>That was all so the side of the original Massonic

2257
01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:03.880
<v Speaker 2>College in Texas. The first lodge was there in Dealey Plaza.

2258
01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:05.720
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird.

2259
01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everyone involved, Mason, there's a lot of my sound like,

2260
01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:11.239
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of I think that is a strong

2261
01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:15.479
<v Speaker 2>argument to me, that's a very Masonic ritual. Whatever happened there, Yeah,

2262
01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:17.319
<v Speaker 2>probably whatever the outcome was right.

2263
01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2264
01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:22.920
<v Speaker 2>As far as uh gil Go Beach situation, Nick who

2265
01:57:23.039 --> 01:57:26.399
<v Speaker 2>delivered that sand to the area that helped bury these bodies.

2266
01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:29.840
<v Speaker 3>They remember that. I was like, Yo, don't even tell me.

2267
01:57:30.079 --> 01:57:32.800
<v Speaker 3>This is another thing that I've I've theorized that I

2268
01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:35.800
<v Speaker 3>do think it's quite possible. I think the Rotary Club

2269
01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:37.920
<v Speaker 3>might be involved with some of the Ladybird Lake things.

2270
01:57:38.079 --> 01:57:40.279
<v Speaker 3>And then somehow I think when I was looking them up,

2271
01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:42.960
<v Speaker 3>something popped up and I was like, Yo, they were

2272
01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:45.079
<v Speaker 3>at gill Go Beach. And when I looked into it,

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01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yo, they're the ones who are charge

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01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of standing gil Go Beach.

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01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>They literally buried these bodies the rot.

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01:57:56.600 --> 01:58:00.359
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, yo, what's the odds of the Like,

2277
01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:01.000
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck?

2278
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Check their rosters for some Mormons, I'm telling you right now.

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01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do they have this? Is there a strong Mormon

2280
01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:14.079
<v Speaker 2>presence in in in around New York City.

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01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't just the Rotary Club though, Yeah, I know.

2282
01:58:17.760 --> 01:58:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying like I feel like that out there.

2283
01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Is probably.

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01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh and another thing too about the Rotary Club. They

2285
01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:29.159
<v Speaker 3>all have boats. Mm hmm. So that's like another thing too.

2286
01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:30.840
<v Speaker 3>That's why I think they might have been that Lady

2287
01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Bird Lake, because it's like, if you're just out in

2288
01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the water looking like the Rotary Club, then you're you.

2289
01:58:38.159 --> 01:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, I haven't met a lot of Mormons out there.

2290
01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of time out in like Smithtown

2291
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:43.399
<v Speaker 2>and Komak and that reason Ship.

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01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're up on my That was real close to

2293
01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:46.000
<v Speaker 3>my hood, man.

2294
01:58:46.199 --> 01:58:48.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, not a Yeah, my dude's wife is from

2295
01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Komac and then then they moved over to Smithtown at

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01:58:52.199 --> 01:58:53.800
<v Speaker 2>one point. But yeah, he was a he was an

2297
01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Air Force He was Air Force cop with me, but

2298
01:58:55.640 --> 01:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>then he was an Air Force recruiter for years and

2299
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:00.359
<v Speaker 2>then he he's a state police out there now, has

2300
01:59:00.439 --> 01:59:04.359
<v Speaker 2>been for years. Yeah, I never really a lot of

2301
01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:06.640
<v Speaker 2>he's and he's involved in a lot of organizations, you know,

2302
01:59:07.239 --> 01:59:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Elks think he's an Elks guy or something, maybe you

2303
01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:11.960
<v Speaker 2>know whatever in the FOP, you know, whatever else he

2304
01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:15.159
<v Speaker 2>could be whoever else knows. But I'm saying everyone in

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01:59:15.199 --> 01:59:17.560
<v Speaker 2>those organizations that he's involved with seemed to be Jewish.

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01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:20.199
<v Speaker 2>For Italian, I never really encountered a lot of Mormons

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01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:20.760
<v Speaker 2>out on my island.

2308
01:59:22.039 --> 01:59:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Hm hm.

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01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:24.520
<v Speaker 3>You know. Then you have the Lion's Club that I

2310
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:28.319
<v Speaker 3>think is connected with them. Oh yeah, they're always like

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01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:30.800
<v Speaker 3>a few walks away. The Lions Club is always a

2312
01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:33.560
<v Speaker 3>few walks away from a fucking rotary. Almost almost all

2313
01:59:33.600 --> 01:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>the time they're right near each other. And then damn,

2314
01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I find interesting. What do they do? Its like a

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01:59:38.840 --> 01:59:40.880
<v Speaker 3>thing to give back to the community. They do ie

2316
01:59:41.239 --> 01:59:43.760
<v Speaker 3>eye exams, Like how a colt.

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01:59:46.199 --> 01:59:48.479
<v Speaker 2>We know some Lions Club folks that are doing some

2318
01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:49.840
<v Speaker 2>question blocks heavities right now.

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01:59:50.159 --> 01:59:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Kathy my Butt.

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01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Lays Tall County Corner. Kathy my Butt the the Lions Club.

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02:00:00.439 --> 02:00:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I feel like she has some

2322
02:00:05.359 --> 02:00:07.520
<v Speaker 2>gremlins behind her because she's kind of gremlin herself.

2323
02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Evil kremlin, you know, isn't she hasn't she even like

2324
02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:14.359
<v Speaker 3>just words that have come out of her mouth makes

2325
02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:15.479
<v Speaker 3>the case look shady.

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02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude. They had to tell her to shut up

2327
02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:20.760
<v Speaker 2>because she and the mayor were making all sorts of

2328
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:22.880
<v Speaker 2>statements in the beginning. You're like, no, these are contrary

2329
02:00:22.920 --> 02:00:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to what our narrative is, So I shut her mouth.

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02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:26.600
<v Speaker 3>At one point it was just like, like I think

2331
02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:28.239
<v Speaker 3>she was even like, well, I don't know if there

2332
02:00:28.279 --> 02:00:30.920
<v Speaker 3>was stabs or like, I think the whole stab was scrited, Like,

2333
02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:33.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't she even like mind fucking that kind of.

2334
02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:38.119
<v Speaker 2>She changed the time. Initially it was between three and four,

2335
02:00:38.279 --> 02:00:41.119
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, and then it's obviously almost four

2336
02:00:41.279 --> 02:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>thirty later by the time you know, it's everything she

2337
02:00:43.560 --> 02:00:45.920
<v Speaker 2>said is a mess. But Hoey's there's a lot of

2338
02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Mormon stuff going on here. This this muppet here's not

2339
02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>all wow, there's a lot of Mormon stuff in the situation.

2340
02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And strangely enough, did you know this is only the

2341
02:00:53.800 --> 02:00:55.920
<v Speaker 2>second Mormon governor of the state of Idaho?

2342
02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

2343
02:00:57.119 --> 02:00:57.439
<v Speaker 3>Really?

2344
02:00:58.439 --> 02:00:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Right?

2345
02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:00.239
<v Speaker 2>That was my reaction as well. I was like, wait

2346
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:04.000
<v Speaker 2>a second, I think the first one was by accident.

2347
02:01:04.840 --> 02:01:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It should be a lot I mean, right, it's yeah,

2348
02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:11.039
<v Speaker 1>growing up, I grew up there when I was young

2349
02:01:11.159 --> 02:01:13.159
<v Speaker 1>until I was like twelve, but it was all right,

2350
02:01:13.279 --> 02:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot moremon yeah.

2351
02:01:14.760 --> 02:01:17.319
<v Speaker 2>A lot of Congressional, a lot of State House in

2352
02:01:17.399 --> 02:01:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Congress representation Mormon stuff. But yeah, the I think was

2353
02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the first governor was seventy eight. Maybe he the governor

2354
02:01:24.239 --> 02:01:26.720
<v Speaker 2>went to they got as the new US Senator. So

2355
02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the lieutenant governor who was a Mormon and not the

2356
02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:31.560
<v Speaker 2>governor wasn't But lieutenant governor was a Mormon, so that

2357
02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:33.880
<v Speaker 2>he was, but he wasn't elected. So I think this

2358
02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:38.920
<v Speaker 2>guy's the first elected Mormon governor. Oh, brat. And then

2359
02:01:39.720 --> 02:01:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Brad Little is that a different governor? That's not that's

2360
02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:47.399
<v Speaker 2>a different governor, Idaho governor. No, it's Brad a Little Okay,

2361
02:01:47.640 --> 02:01:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I got too many names, too many names. Yeah, But

2362
02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the the other Brad Little is a I think he's

2363
02:01:53.800 --> 02:01:56.720
<v Speaker 2>the first elected governor Mormon and Idaho. And then they

2364
02:01:56.760 --> 02:01:59.079
<v Speaker 2>have an attorney general right now, it's also a governor's

2365
02:01:59.560 --> 02:02:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, also a Mormon. Right, so he's the one

2366
02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:04.840
<v Speaker 2>who's really behind the prosecution in this case. He's got

2367
02:02:04.880 --> 02:02:08.000
<v Speaker 2>two deputy attorney generals that are that are they got

2368
02:02:08.039 --> 02:02:12.279
<v Speaker 2>their hands up the local prosecutor muppet, you know, butts

2369
02:02:12.359 --> 02:02:16.000
<v Speaker 2>making the mouse move right, But that's who's prosecuting this Coburger.

2370
02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot and there's there's a lot of

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02:02:17.520 --> 02:02:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Mormon stuff involved in the case. So there's an infamous

2372
02:02:20.199 --> 02:02:25.560
<v Speaker 2>character I called the Gooch's.

2373
02:02:23.399 --> 02:02:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Joking about that. What is he talking about?

2374
02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, her name is her name is Victoria Gooch. She's

2375
02:02:30.079 --> 02:02:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the Idaho State Police detective. She plays the most important

2376
02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:35.520
<v Speaker 2>roles in all of the case, but no one knew

2377
02:02:35.560 --> 02:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>about that for two years because of all the sealed documents. Right,

2378
02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:40.720
<v Speaker 2>So she's doing the key interview with the surviving roommate

2379
02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:43.920
<v Speaker 2>that's using the prosecution of Coburger. She's doing the investigation

2380
02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:47.359
<v Speaker 2>allegedly into the Coburger DNA, and allegedly she's the one

2381
02:02:47.359 --> 02:02:50.279
<v Speaker 2>who transports that DNA to that Authorn labs down in Texas.

2382
02:02:50.399 --> 02:02:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So she plays a key role. Her husband's deeply pioneering Mormon,

2383
02:02:55.479 --> 02:02:58.880
<v Speaker 2>but she's actually connected. She's actually the daughter of a

2384
02:02:58.960 --> 02:03:02.520
<v Speaker 2>military US Army intelligence officer who was the protege of

2385
02:03:02.600 --> 02:03:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Paul Tait, who, by Goucha's own admission, it seems

2386
02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:09.720
<v Speaker 2>her father went under cover with Colonel his boss Paul

2387
02:03:09.760 --> 02:03:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Tait into the hippie movement circa nineteen seventy to investigate

2388
02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:16.399
<v Speaker 2>his daughter Sharon Tate's murder by the Manson.

2389
02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Fans oh Man from Solely Cow big.

2390
02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Time, and that surviving roommate that using the prosecution. He's

2391
02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:29.399
<v Speaker 2>also from a pioneering Mormon family and her pioneering Mormon

2392
02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Mortensen's actually pioneered across the US with the Guches. They

2393
02:03:34.479 --> 02:03:44.960
<v Speaker 2>crossed pass in Nebraska. So years later, Yeah, we lost

2394
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to JJ come back.

2395
02:03:50.520 --> 02:03:54.479
<v Speaker 1>He's like stuck there you are? Yes, isn't that wild?

2396
02:03:54.479 --> 02:03:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Though, one hundred and fifty years apart, we have these

2397
02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:59.880
<v Speaker 2>pioneering Mormon families involved in the same weird parapolitical event today. Right,

2398
02:04:00.039 --> 02:04:03.159
<v Speaker 2>we knew each other in eighteen fifty six in Nebraska.

2399
02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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02:04:04.119 --> 02:04:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that with like the Salem witch Trials. I'm

2401
02:04:06.840 --> 02:04:12.840
<v Speaker 3>sure at this point too. Oh dude, No, I just

2402
02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:14.880
<v Speaker 3>don't even know from Ronn. He's like, Yo, eventually, like

2403
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:17.359
<v Speaker 3>those two families ended up like marrying and stuff. But

2404
02:04:17.439 --> 02:04:19.079
<v Speaker 3>it's like, I thought you both had each other.

2405
02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:24.319
<v Speaker 1>The Salem Salem witch Trials. Joseph's grandpa had somebody hung

2406
02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's involved.

2407
02:04:26.399 --> 02:04:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard the name Mary Parsons?

2408
02:04:28.680 --> 02:04:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, isn't it her isn't that her Jack that he hung.

2409
02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Jack Parson's fourth grade grandmother who was accused of being

2410
02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:37.039
<v Speaker 2>a witch but acquitted.

2411
02:04:37.880 --> 02:04:39.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, I should you not? When I had heard

2412
02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:42.039
<v Speaker 3>that Parsons last name, I swear, I was like, no,

2413
02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:45.159
<v Speaker 3>there's no way that's yeah. I was like, I was like,

2414
02:04:45.239 --> 02:04:47.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's too much of a coincidence, like I did

2415
02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:49.279
<v Speaker 3>the last name of just saying that it's too common

2416
02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:50.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe back then, and I was.

2417
02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Just a little too on the nose, right, Yeah, it

2418
02:04:53.119 --> 02:04:53.319
<v Speaker 2>was just.

2419
02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Like that's too weird. That couldn't happen. Oh man, I'm like,

2420
02:04:57.039 --> 02:04:58.920
<v Speaker 3>oh that it's not that easy, Like I couldn't just

2421
02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:01.800
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, I just happened to guess that it

2422
02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:02.600
<v Speaker 3>was right.

2423
02:05:02.760 --> 02:05:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So her her son was I believe it. I

2424
02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:08.960
<v Speaker 2>think it was her son or her grandson. It was

2425
02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:13.039
<v Speaker 2>her her grandson Parsons, No, it was her son was

2426
02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:15.479
<v Speaker 2>a captain in the in the Massachusetts chapter of the

2427
02:05:15.560 --> 02:05:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Side of Cincinnati. So it seems like Parsons and only

2428
02:05:18.600 --> 02:05:22.159
<v Speaker 2>has society heritage. She's got uh that that society heritage

2429
02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:25.279
<v Speaker 2>mother's uh happens to be well at least accused of

2430
02:05:25.319 --> 02:05:27.079
<v Speaker 2>being a witch. Right, And I don't know enough about

2431
02:05:27.079 --> 02:05:30.399
<v Speaker 2>the Salem story to know how involved she was there.

2432
02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:31.640
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, isn't it odd?

2433
02:05:31.720 --> 02:05:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Right? And uh Sarah so Mary Eastye and Sarah Wild's

2434
02:05:37.880 --> 02:05:42.000
<v Speaker 1>were two women that were hung and they were accused

2435
02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:45.600
<v Speaker 1>by Joseph's great grandfather, Samuel Smith.

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02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they said, and they got all they got marked.

2437
02:05:50.479 --> 02:05:51.279
<v Speaker 2>What are we talking here?

2438
02:05:52.319 --> 02:05:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Gone?

2439
02:05:53.479 --> 02:05:55.359
<v Speaker 2>What are we talking like burn at the steak? Well

2440
02:05:55.399 --> 02:05:57.279
<v Speaker 2>we we go on here?

2441
02:05:57.439 --> 02:05:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hung.

2442
02:06:00.279 --> 02:06:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

2443
02:06:00.760 --> 02:06:03.479
<v Speaker 2>And so they were doing some Monty Pythons style, which

2444
02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you know there in the water she flowts, she's she's wish.

2445
02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2446
02:06:09.640 --> 02:06:10.960
<v Speaker 3>No, this was yeah.

2447
02:06:11.399 --> 02:06:15.079
<v Speaker 1>And I mean they also had other people I guess

2448
02:06:15.159 --> 02:06:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that were in there. They say, check the LDS databases

2449
02:06:19.880 --> 02:06:20.840
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, like.

2450
02:06:21.239 --> 02:06:24.760
<v Speaker 2>One of the one of the George Bush Bushes, George

2451
02:06:24.840 --> 02:06:27.239
<v Speaker 2>number one, number two, they're one of their four mothers.

2452
02:06:28.119 --> 02:06:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Bush was accused of being a witch.

2453
02:06:31.239 --> 02:06:32.800
<v Speaker 1>M Maybe she was.

2454
02:06:34.159 --> 02:06:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I was saying, I mean, well, I

2455
02:06:35.800 --> 02:06:37.560
<v Speaker 2>think it goes for for all these people, you know

2456
02:06:37.600 --> 02:06:39.399
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, maybe they were maybe they were onto something.

2457
02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:43.479
<v Speaker 1>I think methinks they protest too much. And they were

2458
02:06:43.640 --> 02:06:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were doing this stuff and they hung

2459
02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:48.840
<v Speaker 1>with people that knew.

2460
02:06:49.279 --> 02:06:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Whatever was going on there,

2461
02:06:51.720 --> 02:06:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a lot of just you know,

2462
02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:58.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of subterfuge. Whatever is going on there rightwise

2463
02:06:58.760 --> 02:07:00.760
<v Speaker 2>cut Dry's history has made it out to be.

2464
02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It's wild. Yeah, that's for sure. Who even knows. Well

2465
02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we kN roads tonight that.

2466
02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, we go. It wasn't what I was expecting.

2467
02:07:13.279 --> 02:07:14.119
<v Speaker 2>It was a great conversation.

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02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, still way fun we have we had a little

2469
02:07:22.199 --> 02:07:24.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah probably yeah.

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02:07:24.159 --> 02:07:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Full blown of cult rejects Fridays. Yeah, absolutely, I think

2471
02:07:28.399 --> 02:07:30.359
<v Speaker 2>folks enjoying here. From looking at the chat, I was

2472
02:07:30.399 --> 02:07:33.159
<v Speaker 2>able to keep up tonight, and as my shows, I'm

2473
02:07:33.199 --> 02:07:35.399
<v Speaker 2>trying to, you know, maintain a narrative of my brain home.

2474
02:07:35.439 --> 02:07:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't do that and follow the chats on

2475
02:07:38.199 --> 02:07:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the Fridays.

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02:07:39.880 --> 02:07:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It is hard, that's hard to make sure. Yeah. Nice.

2477
02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the folks with chat there too.

2478
02:07:45.359 --> 02:07:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing time, Like always awesome.

2479
02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:52.960
<v Speaker 2>No, we appreciate joining us here. You have a great conversation.

2480
02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I always enjoy the I was enjoyed talking Mormon and

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<v Speaker 2>other parapolitical events. Whether you got some uh some great

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<v Speaker 2>stuff over there at the Unfiltered rays for sure. I

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<v Speaker 2>just listened to your episode with Jim the Ninja Fellow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love, thoroughly enjoyed that, thoroughly enjoyed that show.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone for a minute, right, isn't he out of

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<v Speaker 1>town for a bit?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's back on the map, all right, all right,

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02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:18.239
<v Speaker 2>message to think saying he's getting on a plane or something,

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<v Speaker 2>right like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah, checking out as great. Sorry, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, Nick and j J are great. To check

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<v Speaker 1>out Jin's show. I always have fun with you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Great show. No appreciate it, No, for sure, that was

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed your your Jen. Jen's always h blowing

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<v Speaker 2>my brain hall with all sorts of you know, strange

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02:08:38.279 --> 02:08:41.199
<v Speaker 2>and ideas like that show, the show you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>with Greg Little that's coming out like, yeah, Greg Little, stunned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard anyone asked me such great questions or commentary.

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<v Speaker 2>And the forty plus years of doing interviews, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>only ship Chin, that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what the fu?

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02:08:54.520 --> 02:08:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I know? That was good?

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02:08:56.399 --> 02:09:00.159
<v Speaker 3>That was that was real. Definitely got to get at

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<v Speaker 3>some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Greg lit, it was great. I thoroughly enjoyed every

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02:09:02.920 --> 02:09:04.800
<v Speaker 2>every minute of that show that was. It was fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately I had a double book to time there

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to part there at the end, near

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<v Speaker 2>the end. But yeah, I certainly his ideas of the

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<v Speaker 2>adena the giant human skeletons of the Diana Mountains is

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<v Speaker 2>the Adeena and Elite theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked that theory. Yes, what he's put together there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think me and you were both on on that

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<v Speaker 1>same wavelength at the same time. That was such a

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<v Speaker 1>good show.

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<v Speaker 3>That was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I. I actually didn't know he was all

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<v Speaker 1>about Edgar U Casey, and I was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my god. That surprised me. Actually really, yeah,

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02:09:35.640 --> 02:09:36.520
<v Speaker 3>well that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I super good.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I think that's because of one of his books.

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02:09:44.760 --> 02:09:47.079
<v Speaker 3>I think Edgar Casey has even mentioned in the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's in the Edgar Casey Society. That was crazy

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02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and his wife helps run it. I was like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>JJ's back, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, uh, that's great stuff. I'm actually gonna I

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02:09:59.720 --> 02:10:01.279
<v Speaker 2>look for to listen to that, even though I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I just listened to it already, but I'm gonna

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02:10:02.760 --> 02:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>listen to it again because Greg little at a lot

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02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:08.000
<v Speaker 2>of great commentary in there from Greg Little, I mean everybody,

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02:10:08.039 --> 02:10:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the whole the whole panel again, Jen, some of his

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02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:14.600
<v Speaker 2>commentary again left Greg Little speech listen with the compliment

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<v Speaker 2>of saying that was the best questions and commentary and

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02:10:17.399 --> 02:10:20.279
<v Speaker 2>forty plus years of interviews, so it's that's amazing. Definitely

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02:10:20.319 --> 02:10:21.960
<v Speaker 2>check that one out if you like mount stuff, folks

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02:10:22.000 --> 02:10:23.159
<v Speaker 2>of the interwebs, check that one out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure awesome, Definitely, Well, thanks so much you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate, appreciate Nick and Haughty both your aalst

2541
02:10:32.359 --> 02:10:34.439
<v Speaker 2>time in convo. And you got any closing statements for

2542
02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:36.920
<v Speaker 2>us there Hot you can plug anything you need to

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02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:39.439
<v Speaker 2>have any any closing statements on tonight's convo.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great time. I just thought this was

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02:10:42.439 --> 02:10:44.479
<v Speaker 1>fun and went everywhere it needed to go. I love

2546
02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:47.439
<v Speaker 1>being a part of the Cult Rejects. I found my

2547
02:10:47.520 --> 02:10:50.000
<v Speaker 1>home and I'm so grateful and I'm grateful to all

2548
02:10:50.039 --> 02:10:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of you, so thank you so much. Yes, and check

2549
02:10:53.039 --> 02:10:55.399
<v Speaker 1>out the Unfiltered Rise, check out the Occult Rejects, check

2550
02:10:55.399 --> 02:10:56.880
<v Speaker 1>out the Occult Rejects Institute.

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02:10:57.479 --> 02:11:04.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, oh yeah, for sure, thank you oddie, Nick,

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02:11:04.159 --> 02:11:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you uh appreciate time has always Sir co host

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02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:10.600
<v Speaker 2>of Fridays here and uh any, yeah, we we even

2554
02:11:10.600 --> 02:11:12.279
<v Speaker 2>if we adapt and overcome, we or even when our

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02:11:12.319 --> 02:11:15.119
<v Speaker 2>guests uh do not maintain the schedule and Phil to

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02:11:15.159 --> 02:11:17.199
<v Speaker 2>a pure hoof. Hopefully we can get him on in

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02:11:17.239 --> 02:11:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the future. He's too busy racing demons tonight.

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02:11:19.880 --> 02:11:21.960
<v Speaker 3>So there we got that's what he's doing. He's a

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02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:24.880
<v Speaker 3>racing demons. We are makeing. Unfortunately he's out there with

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02:11:25.279 --> 02:11:29.479
<v Speaker 3>his little stabbing motherfuckers out there. I guess real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to plug it this time. I have

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02:11:31.039 --> 02:11:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a correct idle. Last week, I screwed it up. This

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02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Monday the Cult Rejects Live with Krickle. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think at two o'clock. Yes, we do have the coding

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02:11:42.800 --> 02:11:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Brittany tomorrow morning, eleven in the morning. We're doing an

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02:11:47.560 --> 02:11:51.079
<v Speaker 3>early one there. Yeah, we got the coding celebrities coming.

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02:11:50.920 --> 02:11:56.319
<v Speaker 2>On eleven eleven PSC perhaps no Am E s t. Yeah,

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02:11:57.880 --> 02:12:00.760
<v Speaker 2>damn okay, let's try and buy some extra time in

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02:12:00.800 --> 02:12:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the day.

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02:12:03.439 --> 02:12:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, we got her coming on. Interesting thing is

2571
02:12:06.239 --> 02:12:08.439
<v Speaker 3>is that she's actually even gotten in touch with somebody

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02:12:08.520 --> 02:12:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that was even friends with Britney Spears and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you see the pictures and her. Yeah they did.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very interesting this guy was. Even if I would

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02:12:16.840 --> 02:12:19.079
<v Speaker 3>have looked at the account the guy followed me, Actually,

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02:12:20.239 --> 02:12:22.039
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have looked at his account. He even has

2577
02:12:22.119 --> 02:12:24.479
<v Speaker 3>pictures of him with Michael Jackson, so like this' who

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02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:26.960
<v Speaker 3>knows who knows? Switch with this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>But but I'm looking forward to it.

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02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she she did make connections with him, and she's

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02:12:32.000 --> 02:12:34.199
<v Speaker 3>had him on his podcast and she's she's de coodes

2582
02:12:34.279 --> 02:12:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of Britney's weird posts, so she's trying

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02:12:37.079 --> 02:12:39.199
<v Speaker 3>to so I think a lot of them are really

2584
02:12:39.239 --> 02:12:41.520
<v Speaker 3>bugged out and very interesting where she goes with him.

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02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:42.680
<v Speaker 3>So I think it will be a fun one if

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02:12:42.680 --> 02:12:45.840
<v Speaker 3>people can catch that tomorrow morning. Definitely interesting. It'd be

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02:12:45.840 --> 02:12:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a good waken big for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, there we go.

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02:12:55.119 --> 02:12:56.199
<v Speaker 3>I keep screwing you up when.

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<v Speaker 2>No it's I mean, we're under tornado. So it's it's

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02:13:01.079 --> 02:13:04.199
<v Speaker 2>been a wild So luckily it's done better than I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna make some comment about leave Britney alone,

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02:13:08.720 --> 02:13:10.319
<v Speaker 2>but now it's the time has passed. But I'll look

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02:13:10.359 --> 02:13:11.199
<v Speaker 2>forward to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell we see you guys, and and.

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02:13:17.640 --> 02:13:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh Operation GCD, Like I said, back to the Future

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02:13:21.079 --> 02:13:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a cold message Eric View coming Wednesday. This coming Wednesday

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02:13:23.640 --> 02:13:25.920
<v Speaker 2>at eight pm Eastern time, and Hei do you hope

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02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:29.279
<v Speaker 2>you can join us Jen, Jen and fellow Colt reject

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02:13:29.319 --> 02:13:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Cosmic Peach there. Julia will be joining myself and Nick

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02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:35.359
<v Speaker 2>on the review. Should be a great conversation. I one

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<v Speaker 2>of my fad I mean again, still one of my

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02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:40.279
<v Speaker 2>first movies today. I think it's uh. Films from the

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02:13:40.319 --> 02:13:42.159
<v Speaker 2>eighties don't play. I think it still plays, you know,

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02:13:42.920 --> 02:13:48.520
<v Speaker 2>still play and UH. Operation GCD Live Sundays coming soon

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02:13:48.600 --> 02:13:52.319
<v Speaker 2>here on the twenty fifth Patreon link subscriber only Patreon

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02:13:52.399 --> 02:13:54.880
<v Speaker 2>link in the show notes there, and of course you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find Nick and Heidi's links there in the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So I appreciate everyone's time and appreciate your

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<v Speaker 2>time in the conversation there in Nick Nightie of course