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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,

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episode thirty five of Clips in Dim. We have the

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full crew today. It is myself, Chuck Mackler, William Updyke,

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and Adam Austen here to talk about all the horrible

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things that happened in the Nuggets game, as well as

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preview what hopefully should be a win against the Utah Jazz.

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If you're watching us on YouTube, thank you. If you'd

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watch us on YouTube dot complish at Clippers podcast. Before

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we get into all that stuff, Adam, Will, how are

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you doing? Will? It's been weeks? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: How does it?

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Speaker 1: No? It hasn't how you been doing during the Clippers

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losing streak.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing all right. I mean there was there

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was bound to be, uh, there's bound to be a

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little bit of a fall, but you know it's it's fine.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: They're just letting us down so they can build things

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back up. You know, you gotta take one step back

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to take two forwards.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes. Yeah, they're like a dad who's like, I'm going

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out to get cigarettes and he just comes back way

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way later. Uh yeah, he thought and then he leaves again. Adam,

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you are in the the parkview studio tonight. For those

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of you who can't see Adam is at the park. Adam,

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how are you doing amidst this losing streak. You have

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to talk with the fans a lot more closely than

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we do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people are upset.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think we all tried to prepare everyone for the

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game against Denver being a tough one. I think we

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did the best job we could, considering it was another

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game without Terris Man and Derek Jones Junior, and they

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had already beaten Denver twice and it was gonna be

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really hard to beat him three times in a row

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within like two months. So I think the Clippers, you know,

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those four days off and especially the eighth that James

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Harden got off really affected him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was pretty evident how much it

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hurts this Clippers team to miss Derek Jones Junior and

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Terrence Man against that Nuggets team. Kind Of just what

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we were talking about, like what things from that Nuggets

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game should we actually be worried about long term? But

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I thought, you know, like Nico was good defensively, but

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if Amir is not hitting shots, which is something that

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Derek Jones Junior does. Like if both those guys kind

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of have to be on to really help out this

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loss of Derek Jones Junior, and if even if one

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of amrr or Batuoma is off, it really kind of

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just puts constraints on the Clippers offensively.

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Speaker 3: Definitely against good teams and definitely against a team like

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Denver that was ready. But I'll say this, defensively they

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were pretty good. Is their offense that just killed their

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defense because they could turn the damn basketball over nineteen

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turnovers and James Harden had nine of them. It was

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a season high. It looked like some of the passes

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he was making were the same ones he was making

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in the preseason when he was just overly sloppy, when

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it just didn't look very serious out there. And I

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got to attribute that to rust overall. But Denver leaves

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the league in fast break points at eighteen per game,

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and they doubled that. They had thirty six against the Clippers.

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That's the game right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know for an offense that's like optimistically approaching

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the middle of the league inefficiency. You just like, I

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don't know how you win a game where you have

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that many turnovers and then you know, with no Terrence

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and Derrek Jones Junior, like, the rebounding has taken a

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pretty big step back, and the Nuggets were not only

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more efficient from the floor, they rebounded at like a

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fifty percent better rate than the Clippers. So, like, you're

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gonna lose those games. I don't know what else to say, Fellas,

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like unless James, like James, Harden and Norm combined for

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fifty years, gonna lose those games.

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Speaker 1: The thing that got me about the turnovers is that

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nineteen turnovers is a lot. Ugets turned it over twenty

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one times. That's also what's so crazy about that game

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is it's like it's not like the Nuggets were incredibly

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on point with their but.

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Speaker 2: It just depends on how you're capitalizing.

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Speaker 1: One we saw Chris Dunn keeps getting dared to shoot. Adam,

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You've kind of been on top of this on Clippers

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talk and just especially it's been it's been rough. It's

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been a rough stretch. The shooting is very much in

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the dirt kind of from the outside. This reminds me

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of and feel free to call me crazy. Aside from

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Chris Dunn's defense has been phenomenal. It's a lot better

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than this fit comp that I'm about to put it at. Obviously,

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he's better at defense than this person when this person

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played for the Clippers. Do you guys remember when Moe

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Harkless was on the Clippers and teams would just stay

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he started what like thirty games or something that season.

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Teams would just dare him to shoot and sometimes you know,

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and it was similar to this Chris Dunn scenario where

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it's like, it's if it continues when the c And obviously, again,

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Christine is a much better defender than Moharkless was at

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that point. Moharkers was good, but nowhere near what Chris

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Dunn is doing. They made a starting lineup change. It

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was doc coaching, obviously, but I can see when Kawhi

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gets healthy, if Dunn continues to kind of shoot like this,

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that he's maybe the guy who goes to the bench

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when Kawhi is healthy.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it would matter. I mean, Norm Powell,

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I don't think he's going to the bench. I think

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it's going to be Chris do On either way. But

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it certainly doesn't improve his case that he's been this

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core from the outside for some time. Now. I want

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to say something that like twenty six percent over his

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last fifty shots from three somewhere in that range. It's

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it's been rough, it's been difficult. Uh maybe it's not

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even fifty. He's gotten up, but it's it's bad. It's

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twenty six percent. Part is pretty damn elouse. I know that.

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So they're daring him to shoot, they're putting different bigs

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on him, and it's kind of upbending the Clippers offense

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to some degree because like what we saw with Alprinchengoon

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just playing off of him, giving him the Westbrook treatment

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or doing the Draymond thing. Denver did it a little

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bit too, where they would put Yokic on him instead

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of Zubats or instead of Batoomb and so then you're

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trying to get Jokic in the pick and roll, but

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he's not on the guy you want. So it makes

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things difficult just getting into your offense.

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Speaker 1: Do you just gotta hope the shooting gets better? Will,

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because again they're gonna let him shoot. His passing has

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been solid, but like it just feels like something we

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have to hope swings back to above average.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's just even average, I think would

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be I think would be acceptable right now, Like one

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for four is is pretty rough. I mean it's not

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a whole lot of attempts. But uh, you know, the

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bigger issue is just the effect of things becoming more

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congested on the offensive end because he demands no gravity.

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So he's going to have to turn that around personally.

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And yeah, I I don't know. Maybe the Christmas break

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will do something for him. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, we.

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Speaker 2: Don't have a whole lot of confidence in it, if

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's fair because even it's not like

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when we were hoping last year that for Terrence Man

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to go back to normal, because Terrence Man back to

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normal was an above average three point shooter, whereas Done

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going back to normal is still a pretty close to,

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if not below, three point shooter at stasis. So like, yeah,

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it'll it'll be weird, or I guess it continues to

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be weird. Jordan Miller fifteen minutes in the game against

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the Nuggets, zero for two from the floor, zero free

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throw attempts, minus eleven. Very much. I thought we saw

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a defensive trial by fire for he didn't have the

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best night. I called it a growing Pains game on

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the Clippers Pod Twitter, and he looked like a rookie.

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I don't mean that disrespectfully, but like rookies aren't always

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going to look solid, and that the no free throws

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thing bums me out. But again, Adam, it feels like

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his usage when we have to have these wonky lineups.

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You know, we have to watch like bodes KPJ Miller

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all play together and it's gonna get weird. But is

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there any concern for Jordan Miller right now? Are we

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just kind of riding out these bumps and bruises because

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what the hell else are we going to do with

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the rookie?

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Speaker 3: No concern for me. He was just good the game

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before against Houston, where I thought he should have gotten

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the basketball. More games like this happened. They happen to rookies.

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They happened to a mere coffee. They happened to Chris

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dunk three. Like a lot of guys can struggle, it

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doesn't matter, you know, in one one game, you can

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look bad out there. But I think overall he's been

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solid and I think gives them something they need. Still,

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I think he's had twelve points, fourteen points, and fifteen

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points within the last couple of weeks. He's had good games.

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Russell Westbrook got the best of him in the second

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half where he got up for that game, of course

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and was playing some defense and ripped them a couple

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of times. I think going to the basket and that

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kind of made things look worse even than they already

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are with them down by twenty just look like they

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were inept out there and couldn't get anything going on

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the offensive end. But I'm staying with them, especially right

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now without DJ, without Terrence Man and I don't think

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either of those guys. I think the soonest they could

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be back, according to the reevaluation, would be the twenty seventh,

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that home game against Golden State.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're right about that. And this is

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like part of too right what we've talked about will

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like we have to give these young guys time. There's

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gonna be bad with the good with young players, and

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if you're the Clippers, it's like we might we have

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to do this. We have to see what we have

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with Jordan Miller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a different it's a

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little bit of a different conversation if everybody's healthy, or

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even the majority that's been healthy so far this season.

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But I mean, yeah, like what other option do you have.

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Everybody has some bad games. I mean, norm has had

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some bad games. Like it's it's it's just it's just

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part of the whole thing. I would have liked to

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see him get more shots up. I know that that

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has to come within the flow of the offense. But yeah,

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I don't know, he's looked he's looked good overall, and

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he was due for a down game. I guess that's

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how I feel about this streak, especially just missing guys, Like, yeah,

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we're kind of due for a bit of a downstreak.

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We you know, like we were overperforming. Things are going

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to kind of level out, and right now, I mean

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I feel like they're they're not necessarily bottoming out, but

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getting closer just due to you know, absences.

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Speaker 1: And you know, something sort of regressing to the means.

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It could bought about after tomorrow night. We'll see what happens.

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We'll talk about that in a bit. But I like

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what and they played, you know, they played above kind

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of their weight a bit on a trunk haded schedule,

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which makes it even harder. I think, right, you're kind

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of riding that wave of how good you're playing out

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so many games in a row. Then it stops and

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you got the older guys like Harden, he's tired, he

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getst the rest. He's got nine turnovers. Norm got clamped

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by Jamal Murray. Just to say what it is. Jamal

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Murray did a good job on Norm Powell on Friday.

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Which of these things that we've kind of talked about,

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do you think Will is most you know, pays pay

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attention to it in the long term. Which of these

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things do you think kind of sticks out the most

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for this Clippers trajectory heading into the new year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the offense has been an issue for

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the Clippers all year long, and I think if Chris

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dun can't like have a reliable shot, it depends obviously

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on how much longer the season we're gonna go with

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him in the starting lineup. But if that's gonna be,

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you know, if that's gonna be our only option or

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a prolonged option, that is something to worry about.

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Speaker 1: We did just get the injury report for the game

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against the Jazz. Same thing. Key Contributors Derek Jones junior

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Tarnce Man gonna be out for that one. Adam, what

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of these things we've talked about, are you going to

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keep your eye on most kind of as you move forward?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just ran the numbers on Chris Dunn, So

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he's nineteen for his last sixty eight from three, which

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is just under twenty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: That's what I got up here too, right got there

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right after you.

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Speaker 3: That's rough, but you're the thing. He was still like

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a plus nine in that game. Chris Dunn shooting it's

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sick pretty much a bonus because he's that good defensively.

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Speaker 1: He was also still sick. Tyler talked about that the

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post game. He said, Chris dunkept asking to come out

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because the altitude was still messing with whatever he had.

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You could see it. Yeah, if it's anything like what

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I had, kudos to you, Chris Doune, because I wasn't

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playing twenty one minutes in Denver. I like what you

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said about the shooting being a bonus, like it being

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plus nine in that game is insane.

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Speaker 3: The only way it wouldn't be a bonus is if

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teams continue to just completely leave him wide open and

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he's this bad over his next sixty eight shots, which

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I don't think could happen. Honestly, He's not as bad

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as a shooter that he's, you know, a twenty eight

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percent career three point shooter type of guy. He's better

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than that. He's just going through a cold streak, just

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like he went through a hot streak to start off

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the season. I expect him to be around thirty four

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thirty five percent by the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think what I'm looking at

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kind of as we go on, just how AMR and

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Nico can level out during this absence of Derek Jones

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and Terrence Man because we need a mirror with Chris

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Dunn together on defense. I absolutely love it. It was

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very fun to watch for portions of the game on Friday.

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But we just need basically it's falls on a mirror

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to shoot from outside because he's more trigger happy and

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we'll get more chances from the twom I think, so,

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I think that's what I'm looking for. We already have

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such thin margins, and I guess for James Harden to

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not turn the ball over nine times, I don't think

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he will make a habit of that. But even in

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that he's.

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Speaker 2: Been so much better.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I would say anything that six

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plus range with this lineup, it's putting us in a

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tough spot. And yet again the Clippers give up the

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most points in the paint. They've given up to the Nuggets,

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that's who. They've done it too twice this year, which

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I don't necessarily love. If you want a good breakdown

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of kind of like the tipping point of that game,

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Law Murray did a great little breakdown about it was

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just some lazy mistakes from the Clippers and the Nuggets

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kind of took advantage. Let us know what you thought

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about the game against the Nuggets over at Clippers Pod

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or at Clippers Podcast on YouTube. Coming up, we're gonna

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be previewing the game against the Jazz. I have some

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horrifying statistics to read off to the fellas. But before that,

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there's an audio break, so watch your ears in three

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two one.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clips and did your favorite

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NBA podcast about the Los Angeles Clippers. We talked about

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the Clippers losing streak, what's going on, what to watch

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for now, It's time to turn things around and look

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ahead as the Clippers are taken on the Jazz. Charles,

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You've led into this one with a hell of a

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tase with some very disturbing stats. Why don't you lay

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us on it? Laid on us man?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So weirdly enough, just like in November, the Clippers

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can stop a three game losing streak when they're playing

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the Jazz at home. I was looking at over the

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last ten games, and the Jazz's offense has been better

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than the Clippers offense over the last ten games. Right.

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That disturbed me. The defense is not. The defense for

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the Jazz is horrible. It continues to be literally I

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think dead last and defensive rating at least over the

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last ten games. The Clippers are six. That's going to

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help the Clippers out a bunch. But the Jazz are

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six and three point percentage over the last ten games,

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while the Clippers are seventeenth. They're sixteenth in points while

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the Clippers are twenty fourth, and they have the fourteenth

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best offense while the Clippers have the third best offense. Again,

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the defense for the Jazz is so bad. I cannot

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stress that point enough, But looking at these stats on

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just a ten point average made me feel a little

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more nervous. I guess than I thought I would feel.

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They're also turning the ball over the most in the league.

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Speaker 3: They're a better offense on the season, forget the last

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ten games, the third the Clippers are twenty fifth offensively

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on the year.

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Speaker 1: That I believe it feel worse, I believe it. So

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where that leads me to my next into my question,

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which was going to be Adam Will after hearing these

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horror I know, I've just handed you some horrifying news.

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What is your nervousness level for this game? Knowing that

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the Clippers are now going to be out Derek Jones

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Junior and tear It's man, we got the fitter roster.

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The floor is, y'all's I don't know how I'm supposed

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to feel their defense has been so bad, but the

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offense is looking solid. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this will say a lot about

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how the Clippers are going to go into the end

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of the year. Here, you know, we've seen them continuously

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show up, I'd say, like outside of that Portland loss,

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like they show up to play these games even against

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much lesser teams. And I think that this is you know,

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like for the offensive woes, this is kind of the

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perfect game if you take advantage of it. You know,

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you have to actually take advantage of it. But like

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as a as a get right game, sort of a

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feel good thing going up against you know, just a

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barbecue defense. Yeah, like everybody, you know, have everybody get

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into a little bit of rhythm. I think that this

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could be a little bit of in game rest even

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if they if they come out and treat it the

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right way. That's the thing though, if they come out

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treat it the right way, So we'll see. But I

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overall have been impressed with the way that the Clippers

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have shown up even in these types of games this season.

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Speaker 1: I like that the show up thing that's still you know,

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in years past we've seen them not show up. So

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maybe that's why I'm say, habitually eventually not show Yeah, absent.

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Speaker 3: And they did show up the first time round against

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the Jazz into a dome this season. They played well

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in that game, uh the Jazz though, if you go

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over the last so the last three games for them,

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they blow out Portland by forty, then they lose by

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forty to the Sacramento Kings. Then they get into a

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crazy shootout with Phoenix where both teams hit twenty two

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threes and they lost by like seven because they had

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more turnovers than the Suns, but nobody could stop the

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other team.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: The Jazz over the last three games are the hottest

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three point shooting team in the league. They're at forty

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five percent from the outside. The Clippers are shooting thirty

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one percent over the stretch from three. I feel like

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the Clippers are due though, like Will said, if there's

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a team to get right against, as you mentioned, Chuck,

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they're consistently bad defensively. There's no way to cut it.

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There's no way to slice it, or there's any section

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of the season where the Jazz have been better than

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a bottom five defense. They have been pretty much that

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bad all season long. I honestly don't know why they're

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this bad though, Like they only have five wins. You

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look at their lineup. They got Marketing, Kessler is back,

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Collins has been hot from the outside. He's been shooting

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like sixty percent over the last five games from three.

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John Collins, who everybody's gonna be crying forth the Clippers

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don't make a trade for him by the time we're

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done with this episode. They have talent there. They have

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Colin Sexton, who actually has been kind of quiet lately,

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and I worry about that. But I don't see them

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as a team that should only have five wins this

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year if you just look at their roster on paper.

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Marketing has been dealing with a back injury and he's

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scoring almost five less points per game. He hasn't been

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as efficient from two. He just hasn't looked like himself.

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And that's supposed to be your best player out there.

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But I don't know Will Hardy. I kind of think

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he's a good coach and they've just had, you know,

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some mediocre rosters. Remember it's basically the same roster that

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they had last year that started off hot and was

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at the top of the West for a minute, a

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hot minute. Like they shouldn't be this god awful.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, the nerd, So what I'm hearing is

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right now, they seem to have chaotic offensive vibes where

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we just might get a Jazz team that just hits.

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Speaker 3: Oh Jordan Clarkson last game, by the way, and had

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twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Right, So like what I like this, Like we're kind

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of running into like the Clippers being prepared for any

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type of game. This Jazz team that is full of

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chaos right now, and like we need and I know

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that this is the Jazz, but because we have such

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a thin roster, we need Norman James to have good

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starts to this game. We need them to put any

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idea of some jazz witted into it in the dirt,

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like in the first quarter, Like we need one of

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those norm heaters where it's like dorms got worms, got

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eight like sixty five percent shooting after this first quarter.

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We can't give them any belief because they only have

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five wins. They wouldn't hurt the tank if they beat

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the Clippers on Monday. They could try and beat the

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Clippers and it wouldn't hurt their tank. Which worries.

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Speaker 3: Do players care about that? You think market is like

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we got to get Cooper Flag or you know, like

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I'm not going to play well tonight because I'm trying

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to get Cooper Flag on my team. You can institutionally tank,

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you cannot play rotations. You can have guys sit out,

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but I don't think the guys that are out there

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on the court aren't necessarily caring about a future nineteen

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year old coming. Maybe if they win the lottery.

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Speaker 1: Institutionally they can take. They cannot care about the tank.

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How about that on Monday they can really that extra

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support will with them with what we've been said about

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how good their offense has been, their defense has been horrible.

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The Clippers just got to hold onto the ball because

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the way that the Jazz sneak a win in this

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one is another sloppy game from Harden, which we've seen,

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and then non existent bench scoring from the Clippers. And

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I hope KPJ ken because KPJ was not bad against

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the Nuggets. He would right. He was decent again, one

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of his better games, and the Clippers loss just a

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pattern that seems to be continuing with Kevin Porter Junior.

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Him talk about a time to get right for someone

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whose offense is not very fun to watch. Kevin Porter

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Junior could do that against this Jazz team, and we

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need it off the bench. Like Will you mentioned in

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game rest. I would love if they got two minutes

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of in game rest against this Jazz team because that

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would mean the bench is playing better than the Jazz bench,

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which it should theoretically, you would hope, So.

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Speaker 3: I uh, you know you you mentioned how Norman pal

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and James Harden have to play much better, and I'm

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sure they will. There's just no way this Clippers team,

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I don't even know can they beat the Jazz if

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those two both have stinker games. Of course, they lost

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that badly to the Denver Nuggets. Norm got shut down,

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James Harden had nine turnovers. Like, they can't afford to

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have both of those guys play that poorly. If East

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the Zubots wasn't that impactful against Denver either, top three

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players weren't good, I don't even know if they could

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beat the Jazz if their top three players play that poorly.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, if we were shutting down Norm.

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Speaker 4: On the Jazz team, hopefully no one. My god, Norm

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is that's the thing, is like yeah, I mean, well,

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that's the thing, like against the defense and again the defense,

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as Adam said, any way you slice the season, they're here,

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it's not they haven't even had a random peak Like

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the Clippers would beat themselves, Norman James would beat themselves

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to get the Jazz this win. I think that's the

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only way it happens. Like we're not getting clamped like

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like it's just I don't think anyone's.

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Speaker 1: Been clamped by the Jazz this year.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not gonna happen. And maybe it's a good thing.

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Maybe a loss that bad to the Denver Nuggets where

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they were up by five early in that third quarter

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and then Denver just took off and the Clippers couldn't score.

475
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But that could get their attention knowing that, Okay, we

476
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got three tough games, four tough games coming up right afterwards,

477
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we're about to be out on the road for the

478
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next three This feels as close as you can get

479
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in December to a must win game against the Utah

480
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:03,799
Jazz on Monday, after the way they've worn against Denver.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Willie, you're putting this it must win because.

482
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely must win.

483
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Speaker 1: After this, the Clippers go two games in Dallas and

484
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a game in Memphis, and then they play the Warriors

485
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,000
on the twenty seventh. Who are who are going for it?

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

487
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Speaker 1: As we've mentioned in the standings, last time Adam, you

488
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and I talked, we were a game out of the

489
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twelfth spot, or we were two games out of the

490
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twelve spot. We're one game out of the twelfth spot.

491
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Right now we are sitting at nine. It's a time.

492
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Speaker 2: We're also half a game out of the sixth spot, right.

493
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Speaker 1: So that but that's what I'm saying these next couple like, so,

494
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this is a must win, and then we have to

495
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split in Dallas.

496
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Speaker 2: And you gotta keep it in the Warriors.

497
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Speaker 3: Tough sled, especially because for all those that were wondering

498
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,799
about Kawhi and if he was coming back, babohead night,

499
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he's out the report Just in case you're wondering he's out,

500
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,799
it's not happening.

501
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Speaker 1: We need to clip Adam and I talking about the

502
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Kawhi return and then looking at the schedule and clearly realizing, oh,

503
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it's just the only date that's close to Christmas that

504
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they could give away this bablehead for it to make

505
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any sense.

506
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Speaker 3: That was our best investigative report. That was all the president.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good ship. Now I'm feeling I feel

508
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that it's a must win, but I don't know. I

509
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:41,720
don't I feel confident lowercase all letters, lowercase that the

510
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:42,920
Clippers will win this game.

511
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Speaker 3: The only question I have is it feels like, look

512
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,279
at it where the Jazz have been recently, their offense,

513
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,279
like they're peaking their way to finally getting a big victory.

514
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,119
Like they are, they're knocking on the door of getting

515
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,359
that big victory because they almost beat Phoenix the other night.

516
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,480
They easily could have won that game. And I know

517
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they're like eleven of their last thirteen games they have lost.

518
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But they shouldn't be this bad with this roster. I

519
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
understand what's going on with the Pelicans and why they're

520
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920
at the bottom of the West. The Jash should not

521
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,599
be this bad. There is a reason that Golden State

522
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,599
was like willing to give up four first round picks

523
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for marketing.

524
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Speaker 1: All right, so that brings us Adam, can we get

525
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:30,960
your dome lighte on real quick?

526
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Speaker 3: I'm sure?

527
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Speaker 1: Oh? No? All right? The most important picks this might

528
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,759
be up to this point, the most important player of

529
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the game picks we've ever done, considering this is now

530
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,839
a must win against the Jazz. Will you were not

531
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,599
here last episode? We gave you a mere coffee as

532
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,240
your player of the game pick, not the best pick,

533
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,079
and that was our bad. We know you would have

534
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:57,599
picked a better player. Who is your pick for the Oh?

535
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,599
We also need to discuss as a group with this

536
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,119
many people hurt, can we pick one of James Harden

537
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,960
or Norm Powell?

538
00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: No?

539
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:04,759
Speaker 1: Sure?

540
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Worre split because I'm picking both.

541
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,079
Speaker 1: Will's back and he's saying, f the rules.

542
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: I think you mean to have a great, great game.

543
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't. The thing, though, is like you're not wrong, Like.

544
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,839
Speaker 2: All right, who turnovers combined for fifty points?

545
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: They might need it? That's not crazy?

546
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:36,799
Speaker 3: Is it available yet? Because he's been kind of mediocre

547
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,440
the last couple of weeks.

548
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Sure, everyone's on the table, everyone's hurt, everyone's able to

549
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be picked. A player of the game who cares?

550
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,319
Speaker 2: What's left of the starters? How about they do? How

551
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,119
about they get this one done and maybe maybe earn

552
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640
themselves some in game rest. How's that sound? How's that

553
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,720
for your player of the game?

554
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,559
Speaker 1: Curious? This is what three game losing streaks do when

555
00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:59,759
there's not a lot of time where there's too much

556
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,039
time between games, Adam, who's your pick? Spill it too?

557
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:04,440
Can I pick Zoo?

558
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: Because I'd like to pick Zoo. He's he's very much due.

559
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,359
It's not an easy matchup. He's against Kessler. Have we

560
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720
on marketing? Probably at times? I have to be on

561
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:16,240
Drown Collins at times. It's not gonna be easy. But

562
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,599
I need I need sixteen and twelve from Zoo minimum.

563
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:25,559
Speaker 1: Efficient sixteen and twelve. I would put it. I would.

564
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get a lot of opportunities if he's

565
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,880
not right.

566
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's not gonna get a lot of opportunities

567
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:36,039
in general, I think, all right, So that leaves me

568
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:38,240
everybody else because these guys pick the three people were

569
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:47,079
we're not usually allowed to pick. Yeah, it's gotta be

570
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,720
someone off the bench. It has to be KPJ. Yes, dude,

571
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:53,759
we need someone off the bench to score a little bit.

572
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:57,359
We can't have a ship. We need someone off the

573
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,279
bench to be efficient. No one off the bench is

574
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,839
which makes this a difficult player to pick.

575
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: But you're gonna ride with kp.

576
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,519
Speaker 3: You can pick off the bench for Utah.

577
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,079
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to put that

578
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:17,440
energy out there based on hierarchy touches. I have to

579
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,640
pick KPJ. He has to shoot, he's gonna hit. He's

580
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,720
gonna take so many stupid mid range jumpers and I

581
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:25,559
just hope they go in.

582
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 3: He's kind of been on a heater last three games seventeen,

583
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960
nineteen and sixteen, and he's shooting.

584
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,359
Speaker 2: He was efficient. He was efficient in that loss of Denver.

585
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:43,319
Speaker 1: I yeah, they're all the again. Look at look at

586
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:47,119
where these good games are coming from losses. I want

587
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,839
him to flip that. I need him to be efficient

588
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,759
and here's that, not maybe just the scoring. Have a

589
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,200
couple boards, have it, like, have basically the game he

590
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,200
had versus Denver versus the Jazz and we win, and

591
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,359
I would he.

592
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: Had he had sixteen three and four with two steals

593
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:05,519
and shot fifty fifty.

594
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,119
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like, in a loss, have that

595
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
exact game against the Jet But like, what does.

596
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: That have to do? I don't. I don't, I don't.

597
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,240
I don't know that that's fully.

598
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,359
Speaker 1: Core garbage because I think I think some of it

599
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,319
was maybe garbage time.

600
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: All right, just came in and actually went to work

601
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,160
early in that game against Denver.

602
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,519
Speaker 1: Well, it didn't turn into anything, so I hope I

603
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,559
didn't realize this was the KPJ and dip pod. All

604
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:33,920
I'm asking for him to do.

605
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:34,759
Speaker 2: What's good work?

606
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: If you still suck, that's what I'm saying, good work.

607
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,799
We lost. What I'm saying is give me that exact game,

608
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:46,960
which wasn't like an over the moon game. He didn't

609
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960
come out and it was like, who do you want

610
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:51,799
from it? That's what I'm saying, do what he did

611
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,640
against a horrible defense during a win, and I'll be

612
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,920
way more a static about the performance.

613
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's absolutely fair.

614
00:31:58,599 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: And we need it because who else on the beat

615
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,799
which is gonna be a microwave except for your coffee.

616
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:02,359
I guess.

617
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: Emirs kind of do. Yeah, his last two games ten three, A.

618
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 1: Mirror is very much due. So are the Clippers for

619
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,119
a win, and they're playing the perfect opponent theoretically to

620
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,839
get that win. It's scary. I don't like how nervous

621
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,920
Adam is about this game. Usually Adam is the most

622
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,119
locked in of all of us for Clippers dubs.

623
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,559
Speaker 3: Like the numbers that I've seen from Utah right now,

624
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,160
it just feels like something is rising to the surface

625
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,839
right now, a jugg ornut.

626
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 1: I wish you guys released on the league.

627
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I wish you could see stock and there's like that

628
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240
scum that comes up to the top. I scrape it off.

629
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,599
That's Utah right now.

630
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,319
Speaker 1: The soup scum.

631
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't you want to have a clear broth,

632
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:48,319
it'll be cloudy.

633
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: That's true. I wish you guys going to see me

634
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,480
researching it because I felt like I was in a

635
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,839
movie where they uncover horrible information. I was like, oh, no, six.

636
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,039
Speaker 2: It was your spotlight.

637
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:03,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. I picked up a yeah, a

638
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,359
rotary dial phone because I just had to tell you guys,

639
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480
all right, So we got a player of the game picks.

640
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,599
There might be if the Clippers lose tomorrow, I will

641
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,519
there will be alive. There will absolutely be a Clips

642
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,359
and Dip live. I don't know who's gonna be on it,

643
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,160
but there will be one. There's gonna be an episode

644
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,839
out on Wednesday proving the game in Dallas, probably a

645
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,640
postgame live after that game will If people wanted to say,

646
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,720
you know, you forgot to give someone a gift at

647
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:35,839
the family Christmas, and right off the head you have

648
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,839
to think of a great piece of information to tell

649
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200
them there is just as good as a gift had

650
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,799
you thought of it months before. Where could these people

651
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:46,799
tell their family member to listen to us as a

652
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,039
gift for the holidays.

653
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: The gift that keeps on giving this holiday season is

654
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,839
a subscription to Clips and Get the podcast over on

655
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656
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That's how great of a subscription is cost you. You

657
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get so much in return. If you don't, if you

658
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,200
don't do the YouTube thing, you don't want.

659
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: To see us on video.

660
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: You can listen to Rever, you get your podcasts, Apple podcasts, Spotify,

661
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,440
I don't know, Stitch, your deezer, wherever. You listen to

662
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those things. So uh yeah, check us out. But however

663
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,800
you consume the show, Happy holidays, and we appreciate you.

664
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: Happy holidays. I would I want to know the amount

665
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,000
of people who have listened to us, decided to watch us,

666
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:26,280
said I don't want to see those boys went back

667
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,320
to listening to us, Adam. Before we get out of here,

668
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,159
we need one positive thing to send these Clippers fans

669
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:38,280
into what seems to be possibly a bloody Monday.

670
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,159
Speaker 3: The Clippers are about to play lights out. It's the

671
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,039
Utah Jazz Baby. Now, I'll give you something real. If

672
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:56,119
you think the Clippers, I got sucked in the black hole.

673
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,679
If you think the Clippers are bad with turnovers, the

674
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,559
jazz yus there thirtieth on the season and turning the

675
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,360
ball over almost two more times than the team that

676
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,519
is twenty ninth in turnovers. They're eighteen point three turnovers

677
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:14,199
per game. Slippers are sixteen point five sluck eighteen point

678
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,760
three laughable.

679
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: Laughable over from Utah Adam, thank you for the positive note,

680
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:23,519
Thank you everyone for listening to us. We will be

681
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:25,920
back with you pretty soon, and as always, let's go

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clips