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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped off needed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who. You don't have to come running just as

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<v Speaker 2>fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter's gonna help come man, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martine here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to tune into YouTube, we're having laptop

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<v Speaker 1>difficulties here. I'll try to keep firing it up. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, life is all about technology. I swear to you.

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<v Speaker 1>When you lose technology, it's like life itself stands still,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. Welcome. By the way, are you getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the debate? I want to have a debate watching

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<v Speaker 1>party with myself. Anyway, if you have any problems, stressed

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<v Speaker 1>your complaints, give us a call. And I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can see on the white there's Bob Logan here.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not up and running just yet. We will

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<v Speaker 1>get that conquered. But in any case, we have Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Logan with Plumbline services. I've known Bob for so many years.

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<v Speaker 1>He had no gray hair when I met him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had hair. So there you go. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 1>seven one three Talk is our number if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Bob for plumbing, heating, cooling, electric issues.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to tell you one mistake people make

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<v Speaker 4>this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a calm time of year, not too cold, not

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<v Speaker 1>too hot, and seriously, without getting all commercially, people don't

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<v Speaker 1>attend to things unless there's an emergency. Bob says. Every

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<v Speaker 1>year the phones flow down and as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>get a really cold snap, bam. Everybody wants service immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to go turn on your furnace

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<v Speaker 1>right now, see if it's working. I mean you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that, although you can't really tell if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to heat that well, but you can get a check.

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<v Speaker 4>You can get them out there and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically always take care of everything before there's an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's amazing, Tom Mark, high Mark, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Same stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what's amazing about his industry. People are so used

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<v Speaker 6>to and realize they have to get an oil change

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<v Speaker 6>every three five thousand miles, they have to get an

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<v Speaker 6>air filter when it's dirty, they have to have to

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<v Speaker 6>they do the maintenance. They've been trained over the years.

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<v Speaker 6>But people in Bob's industry, for some reason, they can

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<v Speaker 6>talk about it so they're blue in the face. Can't

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<v Speaker 6>train people to do that general maintenance. Why is that Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's human nature.

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<v Speaker 7>Mark people tend to just wait until something breaks before

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<v Speaker 7>they before they fix it, and very few people are proactive.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's I mean, it's quite honestly what keeps us

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<v Speaker 7>and everybody in our industry in business. If people did

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<v Speaker 7>maintenance like they do on automobiles, of a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>companies go out of business. And I hate to say

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<v Speaker 7>that because I want people to be proactive. I want

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<v Speaker 7>them to maintain the system. You know, we have the

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<v Speaker 7>r VIP program that helps people and so that they

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<v Speaker 7>don't have to remember these.

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<v Speaker 6>Things, will remind them and they get right to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Though if they did it right now, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>If they need a new furnace, need a repair, it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be cheaper now.

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<v Speaker 7>Aren't everything in our industry? In travel industry, everything's less

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<v Speaker 7>expensive in the off seasons. Consider this our off season,

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<v Speaker 7>like the travel industry, right, if you want to go

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<v Speaker 7>to Disney World, you don't book it, book your trip

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<v Speaker 7>in everybody else's book because you're gonna pay twice the price.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I know, but you know what, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one does it. No one does it? No one, I well,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, I shouldn't say that. Maybe some of my

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube morons and my regular listeners. By the way, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of regular listeners, I found out a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>People who love us don't necessarily brag on us when

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<v Speaker 1>we help them, you know, the millions of dollars we

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<v Speaker 1>recover every year. I found out something very telling.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>I often wondered why whenever I post something on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>not all social media, but the like next door, especially

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<v Speaker 1>next door is the most negative, negative, hateful like app.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these keyboard warriors want to throw darts at everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, there are some really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>People that want to look at puppies and kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>they help with babysitters or lost dogs or lost you

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<v Speaker 1>know or you know, or the ring doorbell videos. And

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<v Speaker 1>but I found out. I found out. So I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to the three critical comments. I had really critical

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<v Speaker 1>ones in the last And I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I get them all the time, but inevitably, if I

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<v Speaker 1>post one of them, give me an idea of a well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give the like like if I post, if

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<v Speaker 1>I post something like call me you know, or that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of people feel being treated like crap, or

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<v Speaker 1>I just post something right, and then I get a comment,

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<v Speaker 1>usually yeah, called Tom Martino, he'll do it blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then inevitably there'll be one or two, but mainly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's always one hateful says Tom Martino is

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of sh you know, blank blank, or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I went back to three of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you all three of them. One guy said,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years ago, I called you for help, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you had I had some floor coverings and solved

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and you wouldn't help me. It was obvious you

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<v Speaker 1>were protecting x y z x y Z. I never

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<v Speaker 1>protected In fact, then I never particularly liked them, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hate them, but they weren't a sponsor. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I was protecting him, but inevitably that is

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. That's the other person. Three three negative comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's not like overloaded negative. There's way

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<v Speaker 1>more positive. But I went to the other one. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman who had a contractor do her basement.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a terrible job, she said, and we sided with

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<v Speaker 1>the contractor. Now I can't go back a year and

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<v Speaker 1>find out why. I mean in other words, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I could, but I didn't. But normally, normally we look

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<v Speaker 1>for ways to help people, but there are times we say, mam,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't see this guy did something wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's nothing we can sink our teeth into it,

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<v Speaker 1>just the way it is. And then the third one

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<v Speaker 1>was a car deal at went sour and they said

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<v Speaker 1>you were obviously, I swear to God. In every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, they accused me of either being paid

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<v Speaker 1>off or on somebody's side, and I said, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, look, really and truly, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we are all skeptical about everyone. We really are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who you are when we for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if not from monetary purposes, we're all skeptical about politics

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<v Speaker 1>and influence and all that. Because I even do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch Channel nine, you know, I'll say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously a shill for the Democratic Party or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I'll just make a comment. Do I really mean it?

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<v Speaker 1>No? But I don't do that publicly. Well I just did,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean I don't. I don't post on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is this, it's natural to distrust people,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but you can't you truly can't last forty

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<v Speaker 1>five years. You can't and do advertising and helping people.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were a stone cold phony, you just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>It would never, ever, ever, ever happen. Businesses can't stay

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<v Speaker 1>in business for forty years ripping people off.

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<v Speaker 4>No one can do riposs for that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can get away with it for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years if you're a contractor and you want to rip

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<v Speaker 1>people off. But we try to let people know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you put money down and they disappear, they change names,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Anyway, I just want to make that case.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to Lisa, who called in about

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<v Speaker 1>that or who Yeah, we called her back, and we

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<v Speaker 1>called Oscar back because they had called a three h

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<v Speaker 1>three Martino three oh three six two seven eight four

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube stream, so I apologize.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not going to be today. I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to tell you that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to stream something haphazardly and it won't be the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to try to do it for my

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<v Speaker 1>phone or gosh, just for fun. Anyway. You're right though,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark dur regular one is not going to be working.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Lisa, let's talk about the HOA. What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with your HOA?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Roquel took over our property about two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the name of the management company, roql rocal okay,

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<v Speaker 1>roqal r o cl.

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<v Speaker 8>Rw cl okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about it. What's going on.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, there's a property that's been sitting not paying the

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<v Speaker 8>Hoades there past ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Are these single family homes.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a condo condominium.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and one unit is not paying. Are you part

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<v Speaker 1>of the HOA.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I'm on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I did it okay. And and so the one

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<v Speaker 1>unit now they've made it a little more difficult to foreclose,

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<v Speaker 1>as you probably know. However, hos can still do a

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<v Speaker 1>super lean and close on these non payments. You know that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they can foreclose on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And and the Roqucal is saying that we never signed

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<v Speaker 8>something for the lawyer, which you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, so what does that mean? You didn't sign something

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<v Speaker 4>for the lawyer?

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<v Speaker 1>You can do it now do it now? How far

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<v Speaker 1>behind is this one unit?

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<v Speaker 8>Probably two and a half three years?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god? Well, just and what attorney do you use?

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<v Speaker 8>I asked them for the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, so you let Rouqual handle it. So are

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<v Speaker 1>you Are you saying the management company is dropping the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they're they're trying to drop us, saying they've gone

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<v Speaker 8>way above and beyond their duty and our place is

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<v Speaker 8>falling apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, and you said they went way above

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond their duty.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 8>No, they're not doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're going below their duty. Not way beyond their duty,

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<v Speaker 1>They're going way below.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no top.

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<v Speaker 6>They're telling her that they're doing an exceptional job and

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<v Speaker 6>they're sick and tired of it because the place is

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you. So, Lisa, are they trying? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to quit being your management company?

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<v Speaker 8>That's right after I contacted you, I got an email

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<v Speaker 8>from the head person that she's going to relook at

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<v Speaker 8>our agreement and probably let us go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now listen, that's not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes management companies are bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything anything about this one. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>owe them any money?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, Roqual Property Management From what I can see here, no.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess I'm asking does the HOA oh rocal any money?

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<v Speaker 4>For their services.

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<v Speaker 8>We pay them nine hundred a month, okay, and then

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<v Speaker 8>they collect dues and pay bills.

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<v Speaker 4>And all of that. Right, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I want to say for sure, if you're

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>However, however, there have been cases where very large complexes

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<v Speaker 1>have hired a private manager that works just for them

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<v Speaker 1>or works for them and maybe two other hoas. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that, but there are plenty of management companies

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<v Speaker 1>that would take over. I would not wait until rocal

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<v Speaker 1>says they're going to drop. She said something, though, didn't

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are broke. You don't have money for.

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<v Speaker 8>What we told them the board. We told them to

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<v Speaker 8>raise the HAA so we had money in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're on the wait wait are you part of

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I'm on the board.

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<v Speaker 4>And the board won't raise the dues.

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<v Speaker 8>No, we wanted to raise them last year and they

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to tell you what's going on with condos.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, then we'll come back to this issue to

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<v Speaker 1>a boat. This is a very important topic right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's critical as a matter of fact, if anyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in a condo or townhome I have looked at.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I was just discussing it over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>with an expert. Hang on and we'll talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>I call the coming crisis of this kind of condominium

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<v Speaker 1>and town home living. Right after this, go with a

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<v Speaker 1>too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find

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<v Speaker 1>out now three oh three seven seven to one help.

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<v Speaker 1>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 1>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O

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<v Speaker 1>three seven one three talk three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the deal, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>You are facing and a problem that so many people

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<v Speaker 1>are facing with townhomes and condos, and I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming to a crisis. And here's what it is. No

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<v Speaker 1>one wants to pay more in dues. No one so

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<v Speaker 1>hoa's that try the boards that try to raise dues

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<v Speaker 1>get voted out, or if it requires approval from the

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<v Speaker 1>board from the condo and town home owners, they turn

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<v Speaker 1>it down. So what happens if you're collecting money and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not enough to pay the bills? What happens the

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<v Speaker 1>bills aren't paid, you can't afford insurance, You can't afford anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It implodes, it has to declare up bankruptcy. It literally

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<v Speaker 1>goes into default. And it's a terrible situation. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have stupid people who don't understand that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>collect a certain amount of money to pay a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of bills. When you have insurance go up by

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<v Speaker 1>sixty and seventy percent. As you probably know, Lisa, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to collect. You have to collect more money to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it. And when you need painting or pay

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<v Speaker 1>or any maintenance, it's gonna cost money. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have money in the coffers, you have to raise

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<v Speaker 1>the money.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you can't get insurance as well if you don't

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<v Speaker 6>repair these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's it's cumulative. It's a snowball, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a coming crisis because you can't give everyone who owns

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<v Speaker 1>a condo an economics lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you have how many units in your place, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 8>And there's forty okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty units one building?

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<v Speaker 1>How many buildings we have, ten, ten buildings, do you realize?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you realize one hundred thousand dollars for each building?

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<v Speaker 4>And maintenance?

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<v Speaker 1>Deferred maintenance is not impossible to imagine if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot, right, I'm going to tell you something

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<v Speaker 1>that divided by forty units is twenty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a unit. And what I'm saying is, what's that? I'm sorry, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your math is way off. Twenty five hundred yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars a million, they're saying, I'm sorry because

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<v Speaker 1>it's one hundred I set one hundred thousand dollars per building.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong. There were ten buildings, got it?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a million.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars, a million dollars divided by forty units. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And that's twenty five thousand dollars per unit.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not unheard of a million dollars in deferred maintenance.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially, But here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the management and company is thrown up their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saying, we can't manage it. We can't manage and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the board's fault. They should have had these

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<v Speaker 1>fees charged to each person a year, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago. Here's what it's going to take, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are going to have to get together as

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<v Speaker 1>a board and look at what your powers are. In

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<v Speaker 1>the bylaws. There are powers granted to the board for

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<v Speaker 1>emergency assessments or dues. Not everything has to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the membership. And if you guys don't come to Grips

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<v Speaker 1>what I call a come to Jesus meeting, a come

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<v Speaker 1>to your higher power meeting, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>you must do a math lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure you know what has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Done at this place, and you need to get someone

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<v Speaker 1>in there, an attorney, to explain that it must be done.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it's done, these assessments made, then you I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're gonna have to hire people to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and play hardball.

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<v Speaker 4>You may have to have foreclosures, many that.

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<v Speaker 6>You lose any equity you've built there. I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 6>you lose your house, still owe money on it, still

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<v Speaker 6>owe the mortgage and you have nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good points, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 6>And one more thing, Tom, I realize it's starting to

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<v Speaker 6>get bad here. But in Florida, ever since that pool

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<v Speaker 6>collapsed and that one condo, and it was about four

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<v Speaker 6>or five years ago, there's buildings out there that they

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<v Speaker 6>have no money to fix stuff, and they get condemned

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<v Speaker 6>and people lose everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I swear to you. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>they think if they hide their head in the sand,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to go away.

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<v Speaker 4>Lisa, how many people on your board?

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<v Speaker 8>There's only three of us, are you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the board reasonable? Would they listen to me?

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if I if I zoomed with you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, or would they think because I'm not out

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<v Speaker 1>for anything except to help you guys not be in

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis? Are they reasonable? Do they?

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, do you know what your powers are?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you even know that?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>They they were doing everything well, the plumbers were.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean is if you don't if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money, Muce, did you take in a month

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<v Speaker 1>in dues?

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<v Speaker 8>We take in eleven thousand a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now that's not chicken crap that that's all right? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand a month. Still not enough. Probably for forty units.

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<v Speaker 1>That's times twelve, not if you have deferred maintenance. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's one hundred and thirty two thousand a year minus

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<v Speaker 1>about minus about twelve grand for management.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're looking at them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, our water water, the water cost probably about forty

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<v Speaker 8>five fifty thousand. We had a pool of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh my god. They're not taking any money in then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, Well, Lisa, you called with the wrong concern.

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<v Speaker 1>You called about collecting dues from one unit. What you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be concerned about is someone who can go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and whip this place into shape.

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<v Speaker 6>Well you should have while they're still working for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Ask your attorneys if they have an attorney over it.

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<v Speaker 6>It was called rocale. And see what power you guys

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<v Speaker 6>have is the three board members to have a special

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<v Speaker 6>emergency assessment for X amount of money to get the thingneck.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately you have to play hardball if you make

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<v Speaker 1>an assessment and people can't pay that. There are ways

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<v Speaker 1>to steal for clothes. Now, listen, you don't normally hear

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<v Speaker 1>me helping Hoa's But at the same time, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have stupid owners who refuse to look at reality, right, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have.

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<v Speaker 4>A coming crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>When was this?

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<v Speaker 4>When were these units.

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<v Speaker 8>Built nineteen seventy three?

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<v Speaker 1>You have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Big, big, big ass problem.

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<v Speaker 1>A Bob logan, their HA their HVAC system built in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of systems do you have? Do you know

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<v Speaker 4>it's got to be a boiler?

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe is it one boiler that feeds all units

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the building, one boiler per building. Or do

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<v Speaker 1>they have sub units that have hot water that goes

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<v Speaker 1>to a unit in their ceiling?

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<v Speaker 8>Individual in our units.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have a boiler in your unit or

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<v Speaker 1>does your water heater pump up to a unit that

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<v Speaker 1>heats your house?

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<v Speaker 8>I have a hot water heater and a boiler in

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<v Speaker 8>my main living Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>So you each have a boiler, right, correct? And then

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<v Speaker 4>what do you do to cool.

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<v Speaker 8>For the pool?

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<v Speaker 1>No cool?

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<v Speaker 4>To cool for ac? Air conditioning?

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<v Speaker 8>Individual?

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<v Speaker 2>Some have.

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<v Speaker 8>I I have a window, a couple of them, one upstairs,

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<v Speaker 8>one down, and then we take them.

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<v Speaker 4>Out in their windows. So so you have no central

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<v Speaker 4>in this, right, that's good? Every homeowners responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Every homeowner is responsible, right? So that so I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Bob logan. So if we're looking at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, actually we're looking at twenty twenty five minus

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three, we're looking at a fifty two. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me how long do those boilers last? Mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Be honest, they're beyond it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, boilers last a lot longer than a furnaceer air

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<v Speaker 7>conditioning system.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, they're beyond it. Are you guys having any

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<v Speaker 1>trouble with boilers?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not, thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>How are the bylaws written? Are you responsible? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>all responsible for your own boilers?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Wonderful, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Yeah, Lisa, you need you need someone to look

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<v Speaker 1>over your bylaws to see what your powers are. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you need an X then you so you take these steps.

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<v Speaker 1>An attorney like Brad O'Brien or Brian Legal Services. Brad

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<v Speaker 1>is truly a good guy and he can represent an

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<v Speaker 1>HA not for a big lawsuit, just say here is

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<v Speaker 1>our bilos, tell us what are what we can do

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<v Speaker 1>for deferred maintenance or stuff that we need to get done,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll he'll outline very easily. He does all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of real estate issues and this is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>O Lslaw dot com. I'm going to give you the number,

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<v Speaker 1>just ask him how many hours did you.

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<v Speaker 4>Think it might take? And then once you get that

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<v Speaker 4>you know what your powers are.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I want you to get an expert company out

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<v Speaker 1>there to estimate any deferred maintenance that has to be

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<v Speaker 1>done in common areas, not for individual units, for common areas,

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<v Speaker 1>and then see if you have enough money in the

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<v Speaker 1>coffers to do it. And if not, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any money built up in the coffers.

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<v Speaker 8>No, we had our reserves all up to where they

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<v Speaker 8>needed to be. When we went over to Roquel, we

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<v Speaker 8>had just got all our reserves where they were supposed.

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<v Speaker 4>To be, like and then and then one and then we.

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<v Speaker 8>Went over to this new way of h way and

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<v Speaker 8>and now.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they use the money for? What did they use

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<v Speaker 4>the money for?

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<v Speaker 8>Huh thanky?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, thank god, you haven't had any roof damages.

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<v Speaker 8>We got that replaced probably seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness. Now here's the number for olslaw dot com

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<v Speaker 1>for any real estate issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven to zero.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, give me one second.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is really important. So first you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get a contractor out there, like a genesis

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<v Speaker 1>or a good contract to tell you what generally might

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<v Speaker 1>need to be done. What kind of siding do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have? Well, no, you're already painted, so that's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. And but you just get someone to eyeball it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't have a lot of deferred maintenance. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be that you're not that bad off. But you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know your powers for assessment and raising dues.

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<v Speaker 1>If all you maybe all you need to do is

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<v Speaker 1>raise some dues. So you raise some dues and build

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<v Speaker 1>up the coffers and don't blame the management company.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, I don't really think it's therefore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're trying to get out of this because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. They might even be able to interpret for

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<v Speaker 1>you what your powers are. Tell them you want to

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<v Speaker 1>work with them to try to get to shore up

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<v Speaker 1>the hias and to raise the has. And if your

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<v Speaker 1>members want to zoom with me or Mark at any time,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be happy to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark can do it just as well as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's the number seven to zero three seven zero

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<v Speaker 1>seven three eight eight. That's O'Brien to start with. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Martinez. We have to take this break and we

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<v Speaker 1>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 1>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 1>Three old three seven one three talk three all three

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<v Speaker 1>seven one three eight two five five, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk now, Lisas. That's it, I mean, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>we can do at this point for the HA and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a coming crisis if you're in an HIA community,

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<v Speaker 1>a condor town home and you don't know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar's got an issue with a boat Oscar. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 12>I am from Colorado, and so is the guy who

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<v Speaker 12>purchased the boat. His name is Adam Neil McKendrick. McKittrick,

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<v Speaker 12>and I have purchased a boat in Long Key, in

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<v Speaker 12>the bottom of Florida.

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<v Speaker 13>And he didn't have a trailer. I had called about

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<v Speaker 13>the boat. He said they were willing to take three

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<v Speaker 13>thousand down and pay the other two thousand in thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, wait, wait, so it's a five thousand dollars purchase, right, yes, sir, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And Adam Neil McKendrick, mckintrick.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever the hell it is. He lives in Florida.

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<v Speaker 13>He lives in Boulder, Colorado. He's a professor for the

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<v Speaker 13>CU campus that I found out later. But anyways, I

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<v Speaker 13>got down there the.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, he lives here, but his boat is in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>so was he.

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<v Speaker 13>We both happened to be down here on vacationing.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, got it? And he does he keep

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<v Speaker 1>the boat in Florida?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, he does, down in a place called Outdoors Resorts.

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<v Speaker 1>On long Outdoor Resorts? Is that that? That's that RV park.

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<v Speaker 13>I think it's a condominium it's like a big resort place.

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<v Speaker 13>They have a marina there and okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh huh so now so Adam was down there

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<v Speaker 1>and you bought it and the transaction happened in Florida.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, sir, on the resort is where the transaction happened.

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<v Speaker 13>And he said, when I drove down there to pick

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<v Speaker 13>it up, he said that the motors could, but the

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<v Speaker 13>lower unit had.

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<v Speaker 14>Like a leak.

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<v Speaker 13>I said, fine, no big deal. When I got down there,

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<v Speaker 13>they wouldn't let me look at it, and I'd already

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<v Speaker 13>signed the contract, signed the contract and paid the money.

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<v Speaker 13>They wouldn't let me test drive or look at it,

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<v Speaker 13>and the marina made me leave with the boat because

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<v Speaker 13>I wasn't allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Oscar, Oscar, I know what you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to build a case that you're a victim

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<v Speaker 1>because you were taking advantage of But you you chose

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<v Speaker 1>when you got down there, you chose to go through

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<v Speaker 1>with the deal. And I don't know why you would

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<v Speaker 1>have signed the contract beforehand, not pending an inspection or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why you did all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, Oscar, this is the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>when you go on next door. You're going to say

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Martinez and AJO, he's a jerk, He's this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, but I have to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the one that made the mistakes. You are now,

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<v Speaker 1>did they take advantage of you? Maybe they did, but

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<v Speaker 1>you let them. You signed it sight unseen, you did

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<v Speaker 1>not make it contingent on an inspection, and you went

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<v Speaker 1>down and took delivery without testing it. So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things you may not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to undo. Now, having said all of that, let's explore

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<v Speaker 1>it and find something that might be able to help

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<v Speaker 1>you right after this. Let's do that. Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind doing that. Let's look and see what.

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<v Speaker 4>We can do.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 1>Three O three seven one three talks seven one three

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<v Speaker 1>eight two five five. Oscar has an issue here. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>try to see if we can help him. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he basically signed a contract site unseen. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it contingent on final inspection. He got down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he didn't make it contingent on final inspection,

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<v Speaker 1>he got down there and didn't inspect it. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>giving all the reasons why he couldn't. Well, that tells

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<v Speaker 1>you go away. In my opinion, he had several times

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<v Speaker 1>the red.

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<v Speaker 4>Flags, but he already gave him the three grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I said. A lot of mistakes were made,

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<v Speaker 1>But was it their mistake? No, they did everything flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him a contract, gave him a boat. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he said it was fraud in inducement. That's the most

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<v Speaker 1>common claim we get, fraud in the inducement, lying to

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<v Speaker 1>get you to sign. Can you prove it? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get at. Can you prove they lied

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Now, don't say yes unless you can't. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have texts that say it's in perfect condition, the

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<v Speaker 1>engine was just done, or the battery's great, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you have anything we can nail them with?

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<v Speaker 13>Okay?

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<v Speaker 12>So this is what I do have, Okay, is I.

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<v Speaker 13>Did make a mistake. And first off, I want to

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<v Speaker 13>tell you you're very awesome. You helped eight months ago

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<v Speaker 13>my company had got ripped off by the government and

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<v Speaker 13>they eventually paid. You're awesome, and I take your your answers.

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<v Speaker 13>They're correct. So there's small things that I couldn't Okay.

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<v Speaker 13>When I got down there and I wanted to test drive,

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<v Speaker 13>they said it leaked to oil and they were allowed

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<v Speaker 13>to or they'd get a ticket. I tried, and it

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<v Speaker 13>was a red flag. I understand. I spent something like

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<v Speaker 13>eight hundred to rent a trailer and drive eight hours

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<v Speaker 13>to pick it up, and they said it they had

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<v Speaker 13>the paperwork saying that it only had the steal missing

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<v Speaker 13>and all these things.

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<v Speaker 12>And I made a huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay. So when I took the boat and I got

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<v Speaker 13>back home.

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<v Speaker 12>I took it to the mechanic.

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<v Speaker 13>There was a hole in the powerhead. The motor was

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<v Speaker 13>no good at all. And then when I had reached out,

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<v Speaker 13>before I got even a chance to reach out to him,

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<v Speaker 13>Adam had texted me and he said, I'm honey and

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<v Speaker 13>I don't have any food. Can you send that money?

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<v Speaker 13>And I thought that was weird, so I started investigating.

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<v Speaker 13>He is a professor at CEU and it's a crazy situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Oscar. Here's what I need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any representations they made that you can prove

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<v Speaker 1>or he made that you can prove, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>can nab him.

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<v Speaker 4>And are you sure you're actually dealing hony claims? Are

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<v Speaker 4>you sure you're dealing with the actual professor? That whole

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<v Speaker 4>story sounds insane.

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<v Speaker 13>It is. That's why I'm calling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, Oscar. Oscar, whether he's a professor or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know why you're saying that, because you figure

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<v Speaker 1>it might be easier to collective if we call him.

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<v Speaker 4>Up and he gets scared.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I'm saying is he said the professor catched

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<v Speaker 6>him afterwards, saying can I get the rest of my money?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm starving like he can't buy a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, and I felt bad for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, And I doubt it's a professor's all. I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be humor. I don't know, Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask this again, because this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that counts.

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<v Speaker 13>I have proof the ad that.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have? What does the ad say?

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<v Speaker 13>It says the motor is good and it needs love?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you got down there though, they told you

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<v Speaker 1>it was leaking oil?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 13>The lower unit that's separate than the motor. It's and

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<v Speaker 13>I would have the whole new lower unit's like two

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<v Speaker 13>grand I would have replaced it.

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<v Speaker 4>How much how much do they have of your money

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<v Speaker 4>right now?

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<v Speaker 15>Nine dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the driver's seat actually, because you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay him the rest?

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<v Speaker 15>Are you?

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<v Speaker 13>No, sir, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. If you do, you have the registration, everything's signed

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<v Speaker 1>over to you.

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<v Speaker 13>No, I do not. They have the title and I

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<v Speaker 13>just have a copy of the registration.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a problem, then, okay? What I would do

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<v Speaker 1>is sue them in small claims court.

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<v Speaker 4>But where do you The.

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<v Speaker 13>Only problem with that is I signed the contract. I

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<v Speaker 13>trusted this guy they were in a resort. They said

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<v Speaker 13>it was you.

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<v Speaker 4>Signed the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>What you keep going off font tangents, You sign the contract.

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<v Speaker 13>What and I would pay the other money?

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<v Speaker 16>Uh?

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<v Speaker 13>And then so if I go to small claim on

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<v Speaker 13>the contract, it says.

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<v Speaker 1>As is okay, All right, hold on, let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>we can brainstorm something and we'll take ron a follow

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<v Speaker 2>as we can. Shooter's gonna help coming man.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 1>No Tom Martine, Hi Tom Martino, Your trouble Shooter three

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<v Speaker 1>oh three seven one three talk seven one, three, eight, two,

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<v Speaker 1>five five. What's on your mind today? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>help you? All you have to do is call us.

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<v Speaker 4>To find out.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a terrible situation with a guy that bought

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<v Speaker 1>a boat. We're gonna go back to, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Ron first. We got Bob Logan with

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<v Speaker 1>us from plumb Line Services, and they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>as we had a text here Bob from Plumbline Services, plumbing,

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<v Speaker 1>heat and cooling, electric and drains. Someone said they had

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<v Speaker 1>a boiler in their condo unit. Have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>condos with individual boilers?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we don't. We don't do commercial properties.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you won't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like that a condom uncommon. You won't come to

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<v Speaker 4>my condom, not.

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<v Speaker 7>If it has well, if it has units above or

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<v Speaker 7>below it, we will not.

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<v Speaker 1>If it has mechanical room and it was owned by

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<v Speaker 1>an owner.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's because.

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<v Speaker 7>There's within many yeah, within commercial properties, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 7>shared line sometimes you go from one unit to another

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<v Speaker 7>when you're snaking drain lines.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with it has its own mechanical room, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's correct, you wouldn't even do that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we used to do that, remember, I mean you

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<v Speaker 4>did mine.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thirty percent of our business was we decided I

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<v Speaker 7>decided five years You're calling.

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<v Speaker 4>It commercial though, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a commercial Consider a commercial, right, Yeah, we five

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<v Speaker 7>years ago, I said, you know what, we're going to

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<v Speaker 7>be the best residential service provider in the state. And

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<v Speaker 7>we're not gonna get into you know, we never know

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<v Speaker 7>a new construction. We got out of commercial number one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>residential service provider in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's hard for people in condos, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another problem is getting I mean you're not the

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<v Speaker 1>only one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but but there's there's some good you know, mechanical

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<v Speaker 7>companies and plumbers and electricians that the deal in commercial

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<v Speaker 7>properties that did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Ron had a problem last week that was weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark, This one was so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But his apartment had a leak in the ceiling and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I stopped the leak by turning off my

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<v Speaker 1>water heater. And I said, your water heater isn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling, he said, but that's it's used. What threw

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<v Speaker 1>me off. He said, it was used for air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually was used for heat. So there's a constant

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<v Speaker 1>loop going to a boil, not a boiler, a heat

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<v Speaker 1>exchanger up on in his ceiling and it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>his water heater, so his water heater serves as a

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<v Speaker 1>boiler and a water heater, and then it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>a unit in his ceiling which is a heat exchanger

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<v Speaker 1>which then blows hot air. And then uh, he also

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<v Speaker 1>has a c which is separate. So this was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know why it was leaking. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get somebody out there. So Deputy Bow used

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that business, and he went out there

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<v Speaker 1>and Ron, you have a follow up. Bo told us

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what happened. Go ahead, Bo, Yeah, I mean sorry, Ron,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Ron.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh yes, Tom, I appreciate you sending Bow out.

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<v Speaker 14>As a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 13>That same unit is leaking.

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<v Speaker 15>Again, and non't know what's going on. Yeh, leacing again?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, because I think, yeah, Bo, who did you talk

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<v Speaker 4>to me?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Ron?

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<v Speaker 11>I told you when I came out there last week

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<v Speaker 11>that you should probably get Renter's insurance And then I

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<v Speaker 11>left your manager, Amy Bush Meeter Bouchard a message. So

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<v Speaker 11>they said the cause of the leak was your thermost Dad,

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<v Speaker 11>and they were blaming you for it. No, I can

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<v Speaker 11>tell you what's that. I knew I thought about this.

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<v Speaker 11>I knew this thing would probably leak again. Now they

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<v Speaker 11>did replace the heating.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you wait one thing at a time? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did you think it would leak again?

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<v Speaker 11>I thought it would leak again, Tom, because the it's

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<v Speaker 11>the air conditioning coil. The air conditioning coil is right

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<v Speaker 11>next to the heating coil, and if there's not enough

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<v Speaker 11>refrigerant in the coil, the coil will freeze up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>so the coil froze. This is why I think happened.

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<v Speaker 11>Because Ron kept turning the thermist dad down because it

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<v Speaker 11>wasn't cooling enough. So with the unit having lack of

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<v Speaker 11>refrigerant charge froze up.

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<v Speaker 18>And then the coldness of the of the.

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<v Speaker 11>Coil migrated over to the heating coil and froze the

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<v Speaker 11>heating coil and it it's like a car radiator.

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<v Speaker 18>This is why I think it happened. So I told

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<v Speaker 18>him it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not his fault, is it?

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<v Speaker 18>Heck, no, it's not his fault.

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<v Speaker 11>And I left the message Roy Management Company, they need

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<v Speaker 11>to get a competent contractor after to check the refrigerant charge.

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<v Speaker 11>That's what's causing the leak on the heating side. It's

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<v Speaker 11>kind of strange, but it has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 11>the heating coil. It's the actual freezing up of the

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<v Speaker 11>evaporating coil.

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<v Speaker 18>The elite so they needed they so.

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<v Speaker 11>They spent a lot of money and changed the heating coil,

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<v Speaker 11>but they didn't fix the initial problem. The initial problem

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<v Speaker 11>is Ron doesn't have enough refrigerant in that apartment, so

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<v Speaker 11>the coil that refrigerant side it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a way you can tell them that so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't start they don't keep bugging him.

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<v Speaker 11>Tom, I left the gallon message last week. She didn't call.

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<v Speaker 11>I will call again this one.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the name of the management company.

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<v Speaker 18>It's Mercy Apartments.

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<v Speaker 11>It's the apartments called it's called park Side Apartments, but

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<v Speaker 11>it's run by Mercy. It's a big Catholic organization for

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<v Speaker 11>low income housing.

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<v Speaker 18>I can call a manager again during the next break.

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<v Speaker 18>Let's do that Ron.

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<v Speaker 11>It'll keep leaking and they need to address the issue

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<v Speaker 11>with the refrigeration, not with the heating site.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, Bob Logan with Plumbline wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hire you if you SA that's okay. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>open and he's just kidding, but he does have openings.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you'd like Bo. Bo is too

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<v Speaker 1>much of a boss. He owned his own company, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'd be a good fit, right right, Bo?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, Tom, without exaggerating, I bet twenty percent

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<v Speaker 7>of the people that work for us as technicians own

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<v Speaker 7>the one own company at one time, and they decided,

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<v Speaker 7>for one reason or another that they're better off working

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<v Speaker 7>for Plumbline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but Bo's too old anyway, He's an old fart.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't discriminate based on age, time and handicapped.

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<v Speaker 11>So so Ron, I'm going to call Ron off the air, okay,

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<v Speaker 11>and the management company again, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Do appreciate it. Thank you very much, Bo, because you

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<v Speaker 1>did shed light on that thing. Hey, Bo went before

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<v Speaker 1>you got out of the business. Were you a supplier

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<v Speaker 1>or were you a contractor?

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<v Speaker 18>We did both. My great uncle started a company.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the name of it, maybe Bob heard of it.

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<v Speaker 18>Federal Heating Incorporated.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, they've been around forever.

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<v Speaker 18>Eighty years.

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<v Speaker 11>And then in the eighties then we became more of

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<v Speaker 11>a I'm just curious Federal.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know they're they're good, good heritage.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, thank you bo for that. We got more

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<v Speaker 4>coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and I want to go back to the phones,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just such a pain when this happens. Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to try to make another call and help

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<v Speaker 1>you out there. Oscar with the boat now, Oscar, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's a contract. I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a little misrepresented. But here's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I checked with.

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<v Speaker 4>My legal expert here.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is, you had every opportunity not to do

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<v Speaker 1>what you did. This is the biggest put the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but, but but but right now you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the driver's seat. If you did not pay the rest. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy might sue you for the rest. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you show the ad and just will.

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<v Speaker 2>He sue you?

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<v Speaker 1>How much?

858
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:37.320
<v Speaker 6>I totally disagree with you on this, man, I think

859
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 6>I haven't said anything.

860
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't said anything. I told him not to pay, no,

861
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 1>not to pay it. I'm saying, there's no one to sue.

862
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>There's no one that's going to sue him. He got

863
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 1>totally well enough, I said, Mark, you're not disagreeing with me.

864
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 1>You're making an observation. There's a difference. I did not

865
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>say he was going to be sued. I said they

866
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>may sue you for this. I don't know what will happen.

867
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I I really don't know what will happen. But I

868
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 1>certainly wouldn't pay if I felt ripped off. So Mark,

869
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>why do you think you were looking during the break?

870
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think there's no one to come after that?

871
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Right?

872
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 6>First of all, the phone numbers funky. As he gets man,

873
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 6>it rings three times and just goes dead, silence. No

874
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 6>one answers, no voicemail. I have no idea. It's like

875
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 6>some Yahoo or Google number. In fact, it's even worse

876
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 6>than that. I don't know what it is. Then the

877
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 6>second thing is there's no professor at see you with

878
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 6>that name, nobody anywhere period, and a professor is not

879
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 6>going to call him up looking for the last two

880
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars, claiming that he's starving and needs a sandwich

881
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 6>or whatever the hell it said.

882
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense.

883
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 13>That trust me, And he didn't say he was a professor.

884
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 13>My sister does a lot of research. She spends an

885
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 13>hour the other day researching, and then she came up

886
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 13>with that's what she came up with in her research

887
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 13>she found but she could be wrong. You know, we

888
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 13>could be wrong. We just tried to find.

889
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Who it was.

890
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>My point is, you bought it from a ghost. Well

891
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 4>somebody had to turn the keys over to them, and yeah,

892
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 4>it was parked.

893
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 6>It's some place where they rent it or where they

894
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, they pay for a slip.

895
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 13>Well, they're trying to They did say they're going to

896
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 13>serve me because I've been on social media and I

897
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 13>put a posts on Facebook platforms down there in the resorts,

898
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.960
<v Speaker 13>and I've explained the whole thing and they're trying to

899
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 13>shut me up.

900
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 4>But who the resort or the mc millan or whatever

901
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 4>his name is.

902
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but why don't you just now how much will

903
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 1>it cost you to fix it's unfixable.

904
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 13>You have to buy a new motor and it's seven

905
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 13>thousand dollars.

906
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 4>But who's trying to sue you?

907
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to know that.

908
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Who's threatening you.

909
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 13>Gretchen, Gretchen McKittrick. She's on Facebook and they she sends

910
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 13>me messages. They said they're going to get me arrested

911
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 13>and they're going to call the police because I keep

912
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 13>voicing the truth and I keep posting things on Facebook,

913
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 13>explaining the story, showing their ad, showing everything that I

914
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 13>can down there in the Keys. And so today they

915
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 13>sent me a letter and they say we need to

916
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 13>serve you today. I said, well, my ID has my

917
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 13>dress and I'll be in Keys protesting in front of

918
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 13>the marina that sold me this scam.

919
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>By the way, we are live. We are live on

920
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 1>YouTube through my MacBook. It was a pain in the

921
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>ass brain damage. But see what you think, Mark, I mean,

922
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>we can't put up all our stuff like we normally do,

923
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.159
<v Speaker 1>but we're live. So if you go to YouTube, I

924
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>think we're live. I mean it says we're live, and

925
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I see Bob's a good looking fit. I see them

926
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 1>right there.

927
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 4>So I'm talking about my gray hair.

928
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 1>We're going to turn on our lights.

929
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, welcome to our family.

930
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Are we live? Mark?

931
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 4>That's how you know you're at home?

932
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Would you verify we're live or not?

933
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Bro, You're only loved by people who make fun of you.

934
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I want to get on the chat and say, yo, moron,

935
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So morons trying to get on good? I am live,

936
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.519
<v Speaker 1>all right, let me switch my channel to me so

937
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I can I can be.

938
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 10>Looking at you and Logan he looks like those talk

939
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.920
<v Speaker 10>shows and you should be like a homeless guest.

940
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>What I look pretty damn good today. I got my

941
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>red shirt on. I don't even know, man, what you're saying.

942
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

943
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 10>I appreciate you, doc, I said at Logan, he looks

944
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:34.519
<v Speaker 10>like you know laments.

945
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well here I am, morons, I'm here. You know

946
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 1>what Mark I wanted? The reason I wanted to go live,

947
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to. I don't.

948
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to show this media.

949
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Now I don't have to do anything, but in any case,

950
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I took one of our YouTube morons as promised, on

951
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 1>an adventure yesterday. We'll talk about that and now let's

952
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>see what else we're gonna do. Oh, we're gonna have

953
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 1>see what BO can find out from that apartment complex.

954
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:09.679
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957
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<v Speaker 1>Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three three

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<v Speaker 1>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your

964
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 1>troubleshooter finally up on YouTube.

965
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Now we're not on our normal stream.

966
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I had to do it for my laptop, and I

967
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>wonder how I can.

968
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>How can I show up video on here?

969
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Mark?

970
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Do you know I don't even know how to do.

971
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't even like Max. I have no idea, sir, okay,

972
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 4>but it's working.

973
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And Mike the YouTube war ons, as much as they

974
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>like giving me crap, they're gonna tell you right now,

975
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 1>this is the and I mean the sharpest picture we

976
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.280
<v Speaker 1>ever had. You can see everything, my muscle definition, everything,

977
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 1>my vascularity. I'm just kidding guys. For her vagina oscar

978
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>oscar oscar Oscar. Mark doesn't think anyone's gonna come at

979
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>to you. He thinks that's a big fraud. From the beginning, I.

980
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Think the guy swindled you.

981
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Man took three grand in cash for a you in Florida,

982
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 6>and I don't know if he lives in Colorado or not.

983
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 6>He might, but I doubt he's gonna sue you, But

984
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 6>who knows.

985
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I'm gonna go down to the resort. We made signs.

986
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 13>I'm gonna protest there.

987
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 6>For three d But Oscar, I got to ask you something.

988
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't understand why you keep saying that. What does

989
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 6>the resort have to do with any of this?

990
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 13>They're the ones that wouldn't let me. They wouldn't give

991
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 13>me five minutes.

992
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Because your boat's leaking oil. They won't allow it in

993
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 6>the water.

994
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 13>No, they wouldn't even let me be there. They needed

995
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.159
<v Speaker 13>me out of there. What I wasn't allowed to do

996
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.599
<v Speaker 13>the deal correctly. They kept trying to get me to

997
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 13>get out of there. I only what there.

998
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I just don't know what the resort has to

999
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 1>do with it. Yeah, but I don't think. In other words,

1000
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.039
<v Speaker 1>why do you keep bringing that up?

1001
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 4>By the way, I'm curious.

1002
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:30.199
<v Speaker 13>In my opinion, the deal was done on their property,

1003
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 13>and it is a scam that the motor it doesn't work.

1004
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 13>It's just a huge scam. So how is it not there?

1005
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 13>Partially their responsibility. They facilitated the everything about it. It

1006
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 13>kind of helped them scam me by getting me off

1007
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 13>the property where I wasn't allowed to do anything.

1008
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Man, they didn't.

1009
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm sorry, you're that stretching at Oscar.

1010
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 15>I'm allowed Oscar opinion.

1011
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's just stretching it though. It's not going

1012
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to help you legally or anything, I don't think.

1013
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 13>But obequally, I don't have any legs to stand on.

1014
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm well, I don't know that. I'm not giving you.

1015
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I want you to be I want to be very

1016
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 1>clear here. I haven't looked at anything. I'm not giving

1017
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you any legal advice. I have no idea what's going

1018
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 1>on with this transaction. If it was me, I wouldn't

1019
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>pay the rest and I would use And how much

1020
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is it going to? Like? How much you were going

1021
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 1>to pay? How much? Total?

1022
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 13>Five thousand dollars and you pay two so far three?

1023
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>So for the extra two that's owed? Could you could

1024
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 1>you get in motor or fix that one?

1025
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 12>No, there's no repairing it. It's got a hole in

1026
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 12>the power here.

1027
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 1>How much? How much is the motor seven thousand?

1028
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.960
<v Speaker 13>It's brand new, it's nine, but it's a twenty eighteen.

1029
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 13>That's what I bought the whole boat for.

1030
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 12>Is the motor?

1031
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 4>So can you.

1032
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you ever going to go back down to Florida?

1033
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you consume is Mark? Could he assume him here

1034
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>if he lives here? Does this guy live here?

1035
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he knows who to sue.

1036
00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 5>Well?

1037
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Who signed the bill of sale? Oscar?

1038
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Who signed the contract?

1039
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 13>Me and the guy, Adam Neil McKittrick.

1040
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 4>McKittrick. Do you have a phone number for McKittrick?

1041
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 15>I did.

1042
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 13>I provided it, but he doesn't ever answer. My sister

1043
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 13>tried to rest numbers.

1044
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 4>We've all tried it to numbers. No good.

1045
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Man, Holy crap.

1046
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Can't even afford a sandwich. How's he going to afford

1047
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 4>his phone bill?

1048
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying. The whole thing, the whole thing

1049
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 6>makes zero sense.

1050
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't.

1051
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 13>That's why it doesn't make sense to me either. And

1052
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:39.119
<v Speaker 13>that's why the wife I've been communicating with her on

1053
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 13>Facebook and I've just been letting her know.

1054
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.679
<v Speaker 4>That you're so screwed. Either way.

1055
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 6>One, if the guy is real and sues you, you're

1056
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:46.840
<v Speaker 6>gonna lose.

1057
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get this.

1058
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 6>He probably doesn't care. You're never gonna get your three

1059
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 6>thousand back.

1060
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.559
<v Speaker 1>So basically, can you get your two hold on? And

1061
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking this now, can you sell anything you have

1062
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>for a total of two grand? That stuff.

1063
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 15>On the boat?

1064
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 13>You mean with the boater, what do you mean? Yeah, yeah,

1065
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 13>I don't think so. I think right now the value

1066
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 13>is seven hundred dollars is what they valued it at.

1067
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're just is that with or without title?

1068
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 13>The guy at the mechanic shop offered two hundred for

1069
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 13>the motor and another guy offered seven hundred for the

1070
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 13>rest of the pontoon. Because it's from nineteen ninety eight,

1071
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 13>the only thing that was worth any money was the motor.

1072
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 13>And when we did get it here, the lower unit

1073
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 13>was leaking, but the motor was no good. The top

1074
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 13>part was garbage. And that was what I spent most

1075
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 13>of the money. I just needed the motor to be

1076
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 13>anywhere good or even repairable. It was supposed to be good,

1077
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 13>and it was, you know, supposed to be great. But

1078
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 13>I made a mistake. And I just called you to

1079
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 13>maybe see if there's any other recourse. But you know,

1080
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 13>I made the mistake. I take full responsibility, and you know,

1081
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 13>I guess I've learned a lesson.

1082
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 18>But you can't.

1083
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.679
<v Speaker 6>You can't even get a hold of the guy that's

1084
00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 6>the biggest problem.

1085
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 13>Well, he'll he'll answer my phone call, but he won't.

1086
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.480
<v Speaker 13>He won't return my He's returned my sister's text saying

1087
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 13>who is this and then she says, we're trying to

1088
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 13>resolve the pontoons this situation, and he won't communicate. He wan't.

1089
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 5>There's no he don't want to.

1090
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 13>That's why it's such a scam too. Most real people,

1091
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 13>when I didn't even put it in the water, drive

1092
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 13>it nothing. I took it right to get inspected.

1093
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 15>Most people, real.

1094
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 12>People, when you show them the paperwork saying.

1095
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.400
<v Speaker 13>Hey, we got this from you. It's complete garbage. Are

1096
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 13>you willing to do anything? Most people will do something.

1097
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 13>These people won't do anything, and that's that's why it's

1098
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 13>a scam. And that's why I kind of I believed

1099
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 13>that place, that the resort place is a very very

1100
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 13>expensive locked everything real nice thought, and he said it

1101
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.880
<v Speaker 13>has been mating this regularly. I checked the oil. It

1102
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 13>seem clean. There's you know, I got screwed. I just

1103
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 13>I don't know what else to do. When I go

1104
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.079
<v Speaker 13>down there and protest, and what it will do is

1105
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.519
<v Speaker 13>it will show everybody in the area what kind of

1106
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 13>you know people these are that's all I can do.

1107
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 13>There's no other recourse. So that's what That's what I'm

1108
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 13>gonna plan to do, is go down there with signs

1109
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 13>bro test the resort from outside. I already talked to

1110
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:05.960
<v Speaker 13>the coffee.

1111
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Were not the resort's fault.

1112
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 13>It's I've got their name on it. I'm gonna be

1113
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.960
<v Speaker 13>That's where they live is inside a condominium gated resort.

1114
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 13>So I'm going to stand outside with their name on

1115
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 13>a board saying that they ripped me off.

1116
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh you mean that the people ripped you off?

1117
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1118
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, gotcha.

1119
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well listen, I think that I can't argue with you. Okay,

1121
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I'd be pissed off too, I would sorry. Three oh

1122
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 1>three seven to one three talks seven one three eight

1123
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.679
<v Speaker 1>two five five. Bob, I'm getting a lot of texts.

1124
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:40.679
<v Speaker 1>I got to get to some of them. Here. Do

1125
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.159
<v Speaker 1>you do heat pumps? And do you recommend them? And

1126
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>when do you not recommend him? This guy is a

1127
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>solar system being installed. He wants to take advantage of

1128
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 1>as much electricity. What do you recommend, Bob Logan? Let

1129
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 1>me get to a two shot here, even though it's.

1130
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 4>Gonna take tom.

1131
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 19>What's that we have Gretchen, the person who sold the

1132
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 19>boat on the line.

1133
00:56:58.079 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me take a break down and give her.

1134
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Can I give her a lot of Can I give

1135
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 1>her good time? Gretchen? Please hold because I don't want to.

1136
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just about ready to take a break. But real quick,

1137
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Bob on the solar, what do you guys recommend you

1138
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 1>have electric furnaces heat pumps?

1139
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:13.679
<v Speaker 8>What?

1140
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we saw a ton of heat pumps.

1141
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 7>In fact, that's that's the direction government regulations are going.

1142
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 7>And and they're they're great products. They're not for everybody,

1143
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 7>but especially.

1144
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 4>Now how far? How far will they go down? And cold?

1145
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1146
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.719
<v Speaker 1>How how you know? I was told you can't, you

1147
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can't use that's that's that's an old technology, first generational techication.

1148
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's that was old school stuff. You could only

1149
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 1>do forty degrees.

1150
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, Now now.

1151
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It can be a regular heater. Yes, So if you

1152
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>have solar, why wouldn't you do that would be paid?

1153
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with solar. With solar, it's a great option.

1154
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 7>Especially but even without solar, there there are a lot

1155
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.400
<v Speaker 7>of situations where it makes sense.

1156
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.199
<v Speaker 4>And I want to talk about that. This is where

1157
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 4>government's uh shouldn't go. This direction, so.

1158
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And you're getting okay. I want to talk about the brands,

1159
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 1>and we have more coming up. I'm going to go

1160
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>right to Gretchen rep after this go with a sure

1161
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 1>thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

1162
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<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1163
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 1>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1165
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 1>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1166
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 1>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1167
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 1>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 1>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 1>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

1170
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.559
<v Speaker 1>your troubleshooter three O three seven one three talk three

1171
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 1>h three seven one three eight two five five. Let's

1172
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>keep going here and try to do everything we can

1173
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to help you. And Bob Logan is with us. I

1174
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>want to go though to Gretchen. Gretchen said she sold

1175
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the boat. Now, I don't know how Gretchen found out

1176
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 1>about this at all, by the way, because her the

1177
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 1>person told with the person who we were told sold

1178
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 1>the boat was not named Gretchen. Are you there, Gretchen first,

1179
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Gretchen alone? I don't now, Gretchen. Were yes, were you

1180
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 1>listening to this?

1181
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm the wife of Adam McKittrick.

1182
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Is Adam a professor by the way.

1183
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 8>No, huh huh.

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00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.920
<v Speaker 20>We live in Colorado seven months of the year. We

1185
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 20>live in the Keys seven months of the year.

1186
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>That's fun, that's fun. So did you guys know this

1187
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 1>boat motor had a hole in it?

1188
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 4>Gretchen?

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00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:58.119
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, and so did he.

1190
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 20>It leaked, was leaking when we showed him the boat

1191
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:05.599
<v Speaker 20>and why we couldn't We couldn't start.

1192
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 8>The motor in the marina.

1193
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 20>We showed him where the leak was.

1194
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 8>We showed him the paperwork of a Bucani.

1195
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 4>But did you know it was a hole or did

1196
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 4>you know the engine was shot?

1197
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 14>It was a hole.

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01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.679
<v Speaker 19>A mechanic never told us it was a hole.

1199
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.119
<v Speaker 20>They just said that.

1200
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 19>It needed new seals, which we texted we have.

1201
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 20>Texts to this Oscar guy and told him that it

1202
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 20>will need a seal job.

1203
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 19>And the reprise.

1204
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:30.639
<v Speaker 20>Reflected all of that.

1205
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 19>I mean, we sold it for a We lifted it

1206
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 19>for sixty five.

1207
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 20>We gave it to him for five He said he

1208
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.880
<v Speaker 20>could give us half down now and half later, and.

1209
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 19>We let him drive it away.

1210
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 8>He brought this the one.

1211
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Thing, the one reason I believe you as far as

1212
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know the extent of damage. Do you know

1213
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>why I believe you. There's a reason, because you were

1214
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>willing to take half down now. Anyone who knew that

1215
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:02.199
<v Speaker 1>they had a major engine problem would have never agreed

1216
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to finance it because they would have anticipated not being paid.

1217
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the one reason I find some credibility here.

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01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 5>We didn't.

1219
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 8>We weren't trying to stay them.

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01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, we never owned the boat either, and we had

1221
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:19.280
<v Speaker 19>just bought it maybe six months before that.

1222
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Why does he think you're Why did he Why did

1223
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 1>he think you're a professor?

1224
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 14>I don't know.

1225
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to bring up Oscar. I want to keep

1226
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:32.159
<v Speaker 1>it civil, Oscar. Let's be fair here. Let's talk about this.

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01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 13>Can you give me just one second to explain the

1228
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 13>most there's a motor that is on the top, and

1229
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 13>then there's a lower unit, the lower unit separate from

1230
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 13>the motor. The hole in the lower unit was the

1231
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 13>leak she was talking about. Yes, I understood that maximum

1232
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.840
<v Speaker 13>costs could be newer lower unit two grand whatever the

1233
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.639
<v Speaker 13>motor is, the thing that has a hole in it. Also,

1234
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.440
<v Speaker 13>the motor is no good on the very top of it.

1235
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.199
<v Speaker 13>So there and they had to make But.

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01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you agree, Oscar? Do you agree that they probably

1237
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:02.679
<v Speaker 1>did not know that.

1238
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:05.440
<v Speaker 13>If they can afford to live in the keys, why

1239
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 13>are they texting me saying they're hungry and all these

1240
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 13>weird things to pay so I.

1241
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Can pay with Oscar? Can you ask me?

1242
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 15>No?

1243
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 1>No, no, seriously, one thing at a time though, And

1244
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Oscar. I don't want to give you a

1245
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.079
<v Speaker 1>hard time. You called us for help. I'm trying to

1246
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.400
<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of it. But doesn't it seem

1247
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 1>logical if they took fifty percent down and they expected

1248
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 1>you to pay fifty percent that they would have been

1249
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 1>crazy to do that if they knew the engine was bad.

1250
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 13>That was That's what it would seem. Yes, But before

1251
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 13>the mechanic could look at it, I kept getting these

1252
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 13>weird pressuring texts and I called at him and I said, listen,

1253
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.559
<v Speaker 13>I need him to look at the motor to make

1254
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.760
<v Speaker 13>sure before I send the last two grand. And he

1255
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 13>was very upset about that, and they wanted me to

1256
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 13>send it right away. And when the mechanic.

1257
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:52.519
<v Speaker 8>Go no, no, the thing is only worn.

1258
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, go ahead, go ahead, Gretchen.

1259
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 4>What were you going to say? Let Gretchen respond to that?

1260
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 19>Rectoring him he started pressuring him was because he had

1261
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 19>we bought He bought the boat on July twenty first.

1262
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 19>He was going to give us the money thirty days later.

1263
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 20>We started pressuring him probably the last week of August,

1264
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.519
<v Speaker 20>first week this last week. That's why this has all

1265
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 20>started to come up. I don't think he had the

1266
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 20>boat looked at within that thirty days, which he's probably.

1267
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 13>I mean, he had more than enough time.

1268
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 19>But he's still tied in the contract, and it's a

1269
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:29.559
<v Speaker 19>bill of fiale. And we've already we've already filed in

1270
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 19>small claims court and we have we're going to restraining

1271
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 19>order down there at the outdoor resorts. He's not supposed

1272
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 19>to show up because he threatened them this morning and

1273
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 19>said he's just going to drop the boat off in

1274
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 19>front of their resort.

1275
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:45.000
<v Speaker 15>We did not.

1276
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.320
<v Speaker 13>Right now, I did not. I called them talk to

1277
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 13>the manager, thank you very much. He said I could

1278
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:52.400
<v Speaker 13>stand out for Rochest you guys.

1279
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But here's what I want to understand. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to understand this. Guys, Gretchen and Adam, you really truly

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01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 1>did not know you had an engine problem?

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<v Speaker 8>No, let me say this, No, no, let him finish.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Adam, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 16>That boat for that for that price, with no motor,

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01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 16>the boat was worth five grand. Do you understand?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pontoon boats.

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<v Speaker 13>And material on the seats, and it ran us with

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01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:27.000
<v Speaker 13>no problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So but you but but okay, so you're saying, no

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01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.960
<v Speaker 1>matter what, it was cheap enough that it's a goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you, guys know any did you know you

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01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 1>had any problem with the engine other than the leak?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, no, we.

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01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 14>Were only all we know is what we were told

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<v Speaker 14>by two mechanics.

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01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 8>We don't know anything about boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Would we be able to talk would we be able

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01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.079
<v Speaker 1>to talk to any of those mechanics that checked it out.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm here at my mechanic shop right now, Oscar good.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to Gretchen and Adam's mechanic. Got

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<v Speaker 1>to take this break, guys, I look at here's another thing.

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01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Gretchen and Adam called in on their own. So and

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01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 1>also they agreed to finance it. I'm not saying they're

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01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 1>they're golden and telling one but a truth. But I'm

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01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.719
<v Speaker 1>saying that why would they ever agree to take half

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01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 1>down and half later if they knew you were not

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01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 1>going to have an engine? That's the part I don't understand. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got more coming right up, Hold on, go with

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<v Speaker 1>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

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01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:47.280
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01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

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01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 1>insurance companies find out now three O three seven seven

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01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to one. Help. You'll think you're his only customer when

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01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com

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01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 1>to list your home with Remax Alliance three all three

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<v Speaker 1>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your

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01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 1>troubleshooter three all three seven to one three talk seven

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01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:18.079
<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk and find out what we can

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01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:27.039
<v Speaker 1>do for you. Gretchen said she sold the boat, or

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01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:31.159
<v Speaker 1>she and her husband sold the boat, and Oscar believes

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01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they knew it was a piece of junk and cheated him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's adding up right now, Bob Logan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's just sitting here innocently listening, and he

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01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 1>says it probably they knew they had a leak, and

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01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.079
<v Speaker 1>they knew they had problems.

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<v Speaker 4>But why would they ever agree to.

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01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 1>A deposit and and a payment if they thought, and

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01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 1>then he bought it as is thought he could fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, right, Bob. I mean, I don't see

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01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:59.119
<v Speaker 1>either one of them having bad intentions at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I've bought used cars in the past with

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01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:07.880
<v Speaker 7>similar situations, and I think I'm fixing one thing and

1336
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 7>it ends up being two or three things. But you know,

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01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.840
<v Speaker 7>the it's an older car, older model problems, and the

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01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 7>home or the owners don't really necessarily know all that stuff.

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01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.239
<v Speaker 7>They're just they go by what their mechanic tells them.

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01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.679
<v Speaker 7>And that that was my opinion that they probably just

1341
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 7>listened to the mechanic. They said it had a leak,

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01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:27.599
<v Speaker 7>they said, you know what, we don't want to deal

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01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:30.159
<v Speaker 7>with it. We'll just sell it as is and move on.

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01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, I don't I personally don't think they were

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01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 7>trying to scam anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't Oscar. You're gonna you're gonna have one

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01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 1>hell of a time trying to prove fraud here. And

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say something, just carefully to you. I'm

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01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 1>saying this as a as a friend. I know that

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01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.519
<v Speaker 1>we love our listeners. If you go down there and

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01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:58.519
<v Speaker 1>start protesting and calling them fraudulent, they're going to have

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01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 1>a distinct action again if it's not true. Okay, just

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01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.920
<v Speaker 1>keep this in mind, Oscar. Here's what I'm saying. Here's

1354
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that that I know how to do it.

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01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm on radio, and I know when to do it.

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01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 1>But I'm telling you that if you call someone a fraud,

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01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you better have I mean, you have to have more

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01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.760
<v Speaker 1>evidence than you bought a boat as is and it

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01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 1>had a hole in the engine.

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01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 4>You have to have way more evidence than.

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01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 1>That, especially if they ever took you to court for

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01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:33.000
<v Speaker 1>defamation and it comes out that you had every that

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01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 1>that that that you bought it despite the warning of

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01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:38.159
<v Speaker 1>e leak and all of that. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, Oscar, here's what I'm saying to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have fraud here. I think you

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01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 1>have an unfortunate situation. I think, what's that.

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<v Speaker 13>It's not an older boat, it's it's absolutely ridiculous that

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01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 13>I end up. I didn't go to buy a salvage motor.

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<v Speaker 13>They said the box.

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<v Speaker 6>Then just tell the judge about it. Maybe you'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 6>Man counter sue them for three grand Yeah, Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is I don't think it was fraudulent,

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01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, not willly.

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<v Speaker 13>If they're not going to take it back, I can

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01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:18.199
<v Speaker 13>deliver it back. The motor's garbage, not the lower end leaking.

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01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:21.039
<v Speaker 13>The whole thing's garbage. The only thing on that nineteen

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01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 13>ninety eight pontoon boat is the motor. It's a twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 13>So by me, trust Gretchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you guys to think about this because we're

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01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 1>going to a break. I'm wondering, is there any kind

1382
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of a anything can he return it for? Maybe and

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01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you keep a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I want to know what you're proposing where we.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, we are willing.

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01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.000
<v Speaker 19>I've already filed in small clean courts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right hold on one second, we were coming right back

1389
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.039
<v Speaker 1>to you. Please hang on to that. Go with a

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01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 1>don't pay a cent until you are content. Time for

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<v Speaker 1>an insurance check up free, no obligation. Comparison call Compass

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance

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<v Speaker 1>companies find out now three oh three seven seven one help.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 1>durand the Real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 1>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Ripped News. Need that so you don't have to run

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<v Speaker 1>Show Shooter's gonna help come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Tom Martino, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 1>seven month three talk seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Logan is with us from Plumbline Services. By the way,

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01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.720
<v Speaker 1>boat thing that I think what's going to happen.

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01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.119
<v Speaker 4>Is God, I feel like we're beating a dead horse. Yeah,

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01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's anything we can do.

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01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but she was.

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01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:46.560
<v Speaker 6>Before the time she's going to sort it all out.

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01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's it's actually in a great spot. Let's

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01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:50.199
<v Speaker 6>follow up with them.

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01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:52.279
<v Speaker 1>But she was saying she was willing to do something,

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01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure what it was, Gretchen.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just we're gonna just end this. But I want

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01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 4>to hear what.

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01:11:57.479 --> 01:11:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I said, are you guys willing to do

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01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 1>any kind of a refund or anything if he takes

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<v Speaker 1>the boat back, Gretchen, I would.

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<v Speaker 19>I would send him the title for the boat for

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01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:11.319
<v Speaker 19>what he's paid for it now, and he does have

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01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.319
<v Speaker 19>about maybe three thousand dollars worth of work left to

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01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 19>do on it. If he's willing to take it is

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01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 19>that's what's going to probably end up happening in small

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01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:22.039
<v Speaker 19>claims court anyway.

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01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:24.479
<v Speaker 4>Well, well, you can't argue that, I mean, pull him up.

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01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet he takes Oscar says it's only worth seven

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01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. Oscar, they're willing to just forgive it and

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01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.560
<v Speaker 1>send you the title. Now you have a boat, and

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01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>are you twenty nine?

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01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.399
<v Speaker 19>And it's a great boat. The boat is beautiful itself.

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01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Is that boat worth twenty nine hundred without the motor?

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01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know, Gretchen.

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01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:47.840
<v Speaker 13>I'm agreed to it. I'm agreed because it costs me

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01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 13>more time.

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01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:51.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there you go, man, all will I'll.

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01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Make problem solve. Get that dinger out, Tommy.

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01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're right, and I haven't had my dinger out

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01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in a while. I even I just never Thank.

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<v Speaker 21>You very much, Tom Martino, wait, paint, thank you guys,

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01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.760
<v Speaker 21>no seriously for being at least I think you're being

1450
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:12.079
<v Speaker 21>reasonable here, and I really appreciate both of you.

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01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I think that's the best. What do you think, Bob?

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01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.399
<v Speaker 7>I think I think that's very reasonable, quite frankly, and

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01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.920
<v Speaker 7>again I'm I'm not taking size. I'm just looking at

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01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:24.399
<v Speaker 7>the yeah facts here. I think a judge would side

1455
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.680
<v Speaker 7>with Adam and Gretchen. I would say that he.

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01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Gets the title. I think I think he can get that.

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01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 1>He can get an engine for come on for another

1458
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:34.920
<v Speaker 1>three or four thousand. He has a boat arrangement. Yeah,

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01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that it's a pontoon. They are worth something.

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01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, really if the pontoons are in good shape.

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01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Mohan dental implant working with Deputy Doc. This was a

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01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:49.840
<v Speaker 1>weird one. So as I I'm trying to find the

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01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 1>original call Deputy Doc, can somebody do the defib on

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01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:54.880
<v Speaker 1>him and get them more?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, Tom, Yeah, he's been having trouble with Elite Dental.

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01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:03.199
<v Speaker 10>Aparently they did some shoddy work on his implants and

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01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 10>he's left with a bad results from the dental work.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been trying to get him to mail me a

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01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.800
<v Speaker 10>copy of the medical records and I haven't been able.

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01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:16.000
<v Speaker 10>I can't help them till I look at the medical

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01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 10>records so I know where to go. And apparently he's

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<v Speaker 10>unable to forward to me the medical records.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the name he used? Because I can't find

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<v Speaker 1>I can't no, I thank you, George, thank you. That's

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01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 1>why I wondered why I couldn't find. Okay, so tell me.

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01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 10>I let me just say I have a timeline of

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01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:37.439
<v Speaker 10>what went on.

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01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 4>But until I can tell us what it was, go

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01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:44.800
<v Speaker 4>ahead the timeline.

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<v Speaker 18>Go ahead, Mohane, This is Mohan.

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<v Speaker 9>And I asked for the medical records, but they send

1482
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 9>me only the copies of their charges and the payment

1483
01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.319
<v Speaker 9>I made. That is all they gave me.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you need to go there and demand a copy

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01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 10>of the medical records and tell them. If they don't

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<v Speaker 10>give you the medical records, you're gonna report them to the.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of the play What was the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the place, Elite Dental? Elite okay, and so Elite

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01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Dental did dentures for him and what did he not

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01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like about it?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, apparently they put in the anchors and I went

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01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 10>through the through the U through the bone and the

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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 10>anchors were placed incorrectly.

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01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's been having That's right, he said. The uh,

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01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.239
<v Speaker 1>he said, we were really confused. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc.

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01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I was confused about the whole damn thing. No, I

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01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't write it down. I wanted you to sort through.

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<v Speaker 10>I understand exactly what happened, but I need the medical records,

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01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.920
<v Speaker 10>and Mohan, go there and tell them that if you

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01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 10>if they don't give you a copy of the records,

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01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 10>you will report them to the dental board and the

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01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:00.279
<v Speaker 10>license will be revoked. It is absolutely mandatory if they

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01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.119
<v Speaker 10>give you a copy. And if you get there and

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01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:05.960
<v Speaker 10>you don't and they won't give it to you, you

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01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 10>call me while you're there and I will talk to them.

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01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And what happened was or Mohan, is that is that

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01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they told you you owed money. They're not going to

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01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.359
<v Speaker 1>give you any records. They can't withhold records.

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<v Speaker 10>I told them that, Tom, Yeah, I spoke to I

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01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.520
<v Speaker 10>spoke to Elite Dental on Friday, and I told him

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01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.720
<v Speaker 10>that I am. I am not going to dispute whether

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01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 10>or not he owes the money. That's a separate issue.

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01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:41.079
<v Speaker 10>But they cannot hold withhold medical records based upon non payments.

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01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:44.079
<v Speaker 10>And so I thought Mohan was going to go there

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01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:46.039
<v Speaker 10>and get a copy of the records.

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01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so doc that that's what I that's the next thing, Mohann.

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01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:53.039
<v Speaker 1>We can't help until you do that. But do that please.

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01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:55.479
<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to change the name on this to

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01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Mohans so I can have him back when I and

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01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:58.880
<v Speaker 4>let me say.

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01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.520
<v Speaker 10>If you go there and they won't get it to you, you

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01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 10>call us back, call me one.

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01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Call us back. Thank you, Mohan, We'll we'll try to

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01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:08.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll keep working with you.

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01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, next you my phone number. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:17.560
<v Speaker 1>eight two five five. I'm going to go to a

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01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:21.319
<v Speaker 1>wide shot here and I want to talk about this Mark.

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01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 1>He was talking over the break. Remember we were going

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01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to have a meatball contest. Here's what he didn't realize

1532
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:29.359
<v Speaker 1>is that I brought meatballs here to help him. I

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01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 1>mean to give to him a few meatballs to taste.

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01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I gotta say, Tom, you win.

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01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:36.279
<v Speaker 1>No, no, now you don't have to say that.

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01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Now, you don't have to be kind.

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01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But I did. I made the sauce, I made the meatballs,

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01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and I happened to do it for a party. And

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01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I brought the leftovers over here, way more than that.

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01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.439
<v Speaker 1>So you didn't eat all for my daughter.

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01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 4>And and and uh. I said, oh my god, I

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01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.399
<v Speaker 4>have meatballs for Bob Logan. Finally. I mean, we've been

1543
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:55.399
<v Speaker 4>talking about this forever.

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01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But then so those those are very special meatballs.

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01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Those are family recipes. There, you go, very good.

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01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Now do you want to talk about heat pumps?

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01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, we did want to talk about heat pumps.

1548
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And I want to talk about when they can be

1549
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:12.000
<v Speaker 1>used because somebody said they thought they were only good

1550
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 1>for forty degrees. Then I talked to brook Over at

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01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Over at a Red Rocks roof and solar, and she

1552
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>said that they recommend heat pumps if you're going to

1553
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 1>put in a solar system, take advantage of all of

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01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that solar. What were you going to.

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01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:28.600
<v Speaker 7>Say, Yeah, so they can actually be used in weather

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01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 7>twenty below zero. And so again the older technology you're

1557
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 7>talking about, they don't work whatever with solar systems. They're

1558
01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 7>fantastic because heat pumps workoff electricity, and so if you're

1559
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 7>supplementing that with solar, then your utility bill is going

1560
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 7>to be extremely low. But without boring people with all

1561
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:51.960
<v Speaker 7>the technology. So a furnace and air conditioning system. A

1562
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:56.439
<v Speaker 7>furnace actually generates heat through flame and fire right, it

1563
01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 7>generates heat and then blows out in your house. An

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01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:03.680
<v Speaker 7>air conditioning unit, your outside unit, does not generate cold air.

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01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:07.920
<v Speaker 7>What it's doing is it's removing the heat from your

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01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:11.119
<v Speaker 7>house and pushing it outside, so it's not creating cold air.

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01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:12.039
<v Speaker 1>It's removing heat.

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01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.560
<v Speaker 7>A heat pump works similar to an air conditioning unit.

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01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 7>It sits outside and it's not creating heat, it's pulling

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01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 7>the heat from the outside air and pulling it into

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01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:23.640
<v Speaker 7>your house.

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01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Are they way more efficient now than they used to be?

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01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Because it used to be you couldn't you use them

1574
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in a real winter. You could use them in Florida,

1575
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you could use it.

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01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:30.680
<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, what they're talking about is is because electric using

1578
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:38.119
<v Speaker 7>electricity is much more eco friendly, and that's why they're

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01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:39.239
<v Speaker 7>pushing the heat.

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01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>It's still but they'll work in very cold ways.

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01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.399
<v Speaker 4>They'll work in very cold temperatures. Now I have a

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01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:45.439
<v Speaker 4>dual fuel system.

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01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Now that's a hybrid, right, It's a.

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01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:51.239
<v Speaker 7>Hybrid, kind of like a high hybrid car. So depending

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01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:55.079
<v Speaker 7>on the temperatures outside, sometimes the furnace kicks on. Sometimes

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01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 7>the heat pump is used to create heat during the winter.

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01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:00.159
<v Speaker 7>So again, you can have a very cold day in

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01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.560
<v Speaker 7>the winter, in the heat pump is pulling the heat.

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01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 7>Even on a like a ten degree day, or like

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01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:09.239
<v Speaker 7>I said, up to twenty degrees below. There is heat

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01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.399
<v Speaker 7>in the air and the heat pump is simply pulling

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01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.600
<v Speaker 7>that heat that is available and pulling it into your house.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told, and maybe we should get Brooke on

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01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. In fact, call her if she's

1595
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 1>around brook White, because I was told that if she

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01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:30.399
<v Speaker 1>sells a solar system and she can partner with someone

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01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to put in a heat pump, that the tax credits

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01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.239
<v Speaker 1>might apply to the whole dang thing. I'm not sure

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01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if you get full tax credits, but man, Bob, that

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01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:45.319
<v Speaker 1>is one hell of a thing for people, especially if

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01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.359
<v Speaker 1>they have an older system. They get everything new right

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01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>up front with solar. How do you beat that?

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01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.239
<v Speaker 7>And I think solar has like a thirty percent tax credit,

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01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:54.960
<v Speaker 7>yes what I mean.

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01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure if can you call Kachina a

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01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:02.439
<v Speaker 1>brook White red rocks roof and solar.

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01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.359
<v Speaker 7>But again, you don't necessarily need solar to use a

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01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:10.079
<v Speaker 7>heat pump. Heat pumps are still a great product without solar.

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01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:13.680
<v Speaker 7>The reason part of the reason that we've steered away

1610
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.560
<v Speaker 7>from the past is because our gas prices in Colorado

1611
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.359
<v Speaker 7>are so cheap, so using a heat pump didn't necessarily

1612
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 7>makes sense from a utility savings or a money savings standpoint.

1613
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 7>But again, they clean, they're more environmentally friendly, and again

1614
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.079
<v Speaker 7>there are a lot of good reasons to get a

1615
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.720
<v Speaker 7>heat pump even without a solar system.

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01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:37.520
<v Speaker 4>So just like when you go to buy a car.

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01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:42.359
<v Speaker 7>What's best a gas, an electrical, a hybrid. It depends

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01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 7>on how often you drive, how far you drive, everything else.

1619
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:49.119
<v Speaker 7>So have an expert come to your house talk to

1620
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.439
<v Speaker 7>you about the different options and determine what's best for

1621
01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 7>you and your house and your household, because everybody's going

1622
01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:57.279
<v Speaker 7>to be a little bit different.

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01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. And of course plumb Line Services three zero, three, five, eight, six,

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<v Speaker 1>ten eighty six or the website's really complete plumbline Services

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. But I want to talk to Brooke about

1626
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>what kind of tax credits are available or rebates if

1627
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you couple that with the solar system at the time

1628
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you do it. Veto what's going on with child custody.

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01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:30.600
<v Speaker 15>Well, there's an open investigation against Sportsmax's wife.

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01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.239
<v Speaker 1>So it gets so messy, Oh my god, it gets

1631
01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.399
<v Speaker 1>so many it does, it does, And.

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01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:42.840
<v Speaker 15>Well, basically she's did an investigation multiple times on this one.

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01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:44.520
<v Speaker 14>It was a broken foot, and.

1634
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:50.159
<v Speaker 15>They decided their findings allegedly were that it wasn't that

1635
01:22:50.279 --> 01:22:52.439
<v Speaker 15>mom stunt on her foot like she said, it was

1636
01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:56.640
<v Speaker 15>that I coached her. So what it boiled down to is,

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01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.279
<v Speaker 15>now I'm defending myself in court, all.

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01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, why don't you Hold on, maybe we'll get an

1639
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:03.079
<v Speaker 1>attorney on for you. Hang on, We'll come right back

1640
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.279
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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three.

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01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>O three seven one three talk three o three seven

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<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five. If you're joining us

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01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>my YouTube morons, you're seeing a much better quality video

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<v Speaker 1>we're experimenting with, and uh, we're going to see what

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01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>we can do about it. We're going to be getting

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<v Speaker 1>this done on a regular basis, possibly, but we're happy

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<v Speaker 1>that we were able to get it done.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, what happened in the white shot? Oh I

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01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:45.600
<v Speaker 4>just I just cut it just now so I could talk.

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01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, let's go back to the phones and find out

1670
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, because oh, this is messy. Veto child

1671
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:58.279
<v Speaker 1>custody issues are messy. So I want to ask a

1672
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>few basic questions. First, see, we can get an attorney

1673
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on when did the divorce take place? How long ago?

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01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:07.399
<v Speaker 15>Uh, twenty twenty one?

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01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:14.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Now, who got custody? Fifty to fifty?

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01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Then what happened to walk me through it slowly

1677
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like your divorce in twenty twenty one, fifty to fifty custody?

1678
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Then what happened? Correct?

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01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:27.199
<v Speaker 15>And it's been like that ever since until about two

1680
01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:32.199
<v Speaker 15>weeks ago. So then what happened two weeks ago? Two

1681
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:37.119
<v Speaker 15>weeks ago, DHS filed an emergency petition to remove custody

1682
01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:39.399
<v Speaker 15>from who? From me?

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01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Why did they do that?

1684
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Did someone complain?

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01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:49.680
<v Speaker 15>There were complaints made, but they weren't made about me.

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01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 15>They were made about my ex wife. But what DHS,

1687
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:59.279
<v Speaker 15>what they concluded in their report is they're alleging that

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01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:02.239
<v Speaker 15>it's not that my ex wife stomped on my daughter's

1689
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:05.520
<v Speaker 15>foot and broke it. It'staid I told her to say that.

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01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so hold on back there, your daughter's foot was broken?

1691
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Was your daughter's foot was broken?

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01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Right? Correct?

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01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.680
<v Speaker 15>When she came back to me the custody yet, when

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01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:22.199
<v Speaker 15>she came back from what we do exchanges, so on

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01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:23.199
<v Speaker 15>my custody day.

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01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so when when you saw okay, when she came

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01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>back from being with your ex if there was a

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01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>broken foot.

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01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:35.840
<v Speaker 15>And I was unaware of it until she told us.

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01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well there was no cast on it.

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01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.520
<v Speaker 15>No, she came back to us and we, you know,

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01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.479
<v Speaker 15>basically was just asking how she was doing. It was

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01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:48.640
<v Speaker 15>a buddy of mine and I and she said and

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01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:51.079
<v Speaker 15>she said I broke my And she said I broke

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01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:54.680
<v Speaker 15>my foot. She didn't say I broke my foot. She said,

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01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:57.880
<v Speaker 15>mom stomped, got mad that I dropped my water and

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01:26:57.920 --> 01:26:59.279
<v Speaker 15>stomped on my foot.

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01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Okay, now did she say and then what did you said?

1709
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Do? After that?

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01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:08.920
<v Speaker 15>I took her to Children's talk. Well, first we went home,

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01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.720
<v Speaker 15>and just because I was with a buddy of mine

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01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 15>who's a twenty seven year firefighter captain, so obviously someone

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01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.039
<v Speaker 15>who can observe something and give me a little advice

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01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:17.880
<v Speaker 15>on what to do.

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01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So you took her to er.

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01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:24.560
<v Speaker 15>I took her to urgent Care at Children's Hospital and

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01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:25.600
<v Speaker 15>she told them.

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01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.000
<v Speaker 4>The same thing. Okay, and then.

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01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.479
<v Speaker 15>And then they reported it to CPS, and CPS opened

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01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:34.359
<v Speaker 15>an investigation.

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01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And when urgent Care reported to DHS and DHS opened

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01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>up a report, they kept her with mom, but took

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01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>her from.

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01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.800
<v Speaker 15>Me, kept her with me. No, they kept her with me.

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01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>This is back in March, Okay, so they Okay, So

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01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>when d when it was reported to DHS, you got

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01:27:58.039 --> 01:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>full custody.

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01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 15>I got under a safety plan. It was a two

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01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:06.000
<v Speaker 15>weeks safety plan they put in place to have her

1730
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:09.279
<v Speaker 15>just with me while they investigated. It wasn't actually like

1731
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.079
<v Speaker 15>an order, a co order. It was just CPS doing

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01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:13.279
<v Speaker 15>what's called a safety plan.

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01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, during the investigation. So what happened then.

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01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 15>After about one week maybe less, they ended up lifting

1735
01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:24.920
<v Speaker 15>the safety plan and going right back to the fifty

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01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:28.840
<v Speaker 15>to fifties. Then what and then and then from there

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01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:32.520
<v Speaker 15>about maybe a month later, it was like late April

1738
01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:36.000
<v Speaker 15>early May ish a ride. Right around that timeframe, they

1739
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:41.439
<v Speaker 15>made their conclusion and their findings that Mom is not

1740
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:45.520
<v Speaker 15>guilty of stomping on her foot, that they alleged that

1741
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:47.359
<v Speaker 15>I coached her to say that.

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01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so on the then upon the final finding, you

1743
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:56.239
<v Speaker 1>were then permanently removed.

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01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.920
<v Speaker 15>I wasn't permanently removed. No, been all the way back

1745
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:04.039
<v Speaker 15>in May, and I'm in the middle of appealing it

1746
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:05.479
<v Speaker 15>because well.

1747
01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:06.319
<v Speaker 4>What happened in May?

1748
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Though? Was it permanent in May and you're appealing it

1749
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>or was it tell me what happened.

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01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 15>Nope, there's no removal of custody. There's no criminal charge

1751
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:18.960
<v Speaker 15>of any kind. It was literally just they made binding And.

1752
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, then why did you say they removed your custody.

1753
01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:25.760
<v Speaker 15>I'm not sure why they did, but the removal of

1754
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.279
<v Speaker 15>custody happened. It'll be two weeks ago on Wedday, so

1755
01:29:29.319 --> 01:29:30.119
<v Speaker 15>we're talking about.

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01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Hold on late August. Why Okay, Look, they found they

1757
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:39.159
<v Speaker 1>found that you coached her, but then why did they

1758
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>go the extra step and totally remove your custody. That's

1759
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>what I'm.

1760
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:47.600
<v Speaker 15>Trying to find an attorney to figure out.

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01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, you don't have to figure it out. They

1762
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:53.079
<v Speaker 1>tell you when they do it. There's no figuring anything out.

1763
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:54.479
<v Speaker 1>It's told to you.

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01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:59.239
<v Speaker 15>On the report that I had right here from the court.

1765
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:02.640
<v Speaker 15>It states all the reasons that they think that I

1766
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:08.680
<v Speaker 15>would allegedly be coaching and guilty of what's considered emotional abuse.

1767
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.319
<v Speaker 1>So you lost all custody.

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01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Are they going to investigate or is that final?

1769
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:22.319
<v Speaker 15>No, this is a temporary order while they are going through.

1770
01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:26.439
<v Speaker 15>I believe the trials, so I have another date.

1771
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Mind, What are you charged with?

1772
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:28.760
<v Speaker 15>Sir?

1773
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.119
<v Speaker 4>There's a trial? What are you charged with?

1774
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:33.680
<v Speaker 15>Well, that's not charged, that's.

1775
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:34.439
<v Speaker 4>Not true at all.

1776
01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>It's dependency and neglect, or its abuse or it's something

1777
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>there's no, you don't have trials for nothing left.

1778
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:46.720
<v Speaker 15>Dependency and theglect would be what's what's listed. So what

1779
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.840
<v Speaker 15>I'm trying to do is get an attorney. And I've

1780
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:52.399
<v Speaker 15>spent all morning calling at purities. None of them have

1781
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:54.800
<v Speaker 15>been able to access my file. For some reason, they

1782
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:59.079
<v Speaker 15>can't get into my case to view any of the details,

1783
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:02.039
<v Speaker 15>which all of them have found frustrating and strange.

1784
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.319
<v Speaker 4>It's not frustrating, it's strange. It's an ongoing investigation.

1785
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:08.399
<v Speaker 1>They'll be able to get it if they enter their

1786
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>appearance as your attorney.

1787
01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:12.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So who's ever telling you that?

1788
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Look, I don't know if you get into this whole

1789
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>story with them, but you shouldn't. When you hire an attorney,

1790
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you simply tell them you need to hire an.

1791
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Attorney for dependency and neglect.

1792
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Your parenting was taken away following an investigation. They believe

1793
01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you coached your daughter to say bad things about mom.

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01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:34.800
<v Speaker 18>Hear, we haven't find out how old a daughter is.

1795
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Half of the time. Just wait a second, doc, Just

1796
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 1>wait a second. Half of the time.

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01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:42.640
<v Speaker 4>These problems are because people can simply.

1798
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Not tell their story. It's sometimes attorneys are listening to

1799
01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you and they don't want the case feto. I swear

1800
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to you, it's a very simple matter dependency neglect for

1801
01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:02.359
<v Speaker 1>coaching your daughter to say bad things about mom. Period. Okay. Now,

1802
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.279
<v Speaker 1>then you get into the weeds once they take the case,

1803
01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>did you okay?

1804
01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Is the urgent care? Was the urgent care investigated?

1805
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:20.520
<v Speaker 15>I don't believe so. The only collateral that were investigated

1806
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:23.760
<v Speaker 15>were her mom's family and her and her mom.

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01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so yeah, so okay, listen, but I it coaching

1808
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the kid to say bad things does not rise to

1809
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the level of losing custody forever.

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01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:38.399
<v Speaker 4>Is that where they're going with this?

1811
01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:42.479
<v Speaker 15>I don't know where they're going with it. I don't

1812
01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.399
<v Speaker 15>believe that that's the end game. But my problem is

1813
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 15>getting representation I'm not getting I've been pestering the state

1814
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.960
<v Speaker 15>for a state appointed I don't make a lot of money, Tom,

1815
01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:55.279
<v Speaker 15>I just don't. I've been fighting for this.

1816
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't get stayed, you don't necessarily get stayed.

1817
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is a crime where you

1818
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:01.319
<v Speaker 1>get a public defender.

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01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you do.

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01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I actually don't know. We can ask

1821
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:07.279
<v Speaker 1>one of our attorneys. I mean we can.

1822
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:09.800
<v Speaker 15>Well, I was told bien it I mean again, and

1823
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.039
<v Speaker 15>I don't know either. Let's I just be really candid.

1824
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 15>I'm obviously not the need to let sort in any way,

1825
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:17.279
<v Speaker 15>shape or form. But I did fill out the paperwork

1826
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 15>to get a state appointed as I was suggested by

1827
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.039
<v Speaker 15>a state appointed attorney. Okay, failing me probably to get

1828
01:33:24.039 --> 01:33:27.000
<v Speaker 15>my business. So I think that it's probable that that's

1829
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.000
<v Speaker 15>the way, but I haven't heard back from them. I'm

1830
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:33.000
<v Speaker 15>not hearing back from the opposing side. There's a guardian ATLTAM.

1831
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.720
<v Speaker 15>I can't get response from them. From the case. I'm

1832
01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:39.439
<v Speaker 15>just being basically blacked out of the whole situation, and

1833
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:41.079
<v Speaker 15>so I just don't know where I stand.

1834
01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>By the way, so so is your ex? Okay, so

1835
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:48.159
<v Speaker 1>is your ex? It's not it's not personal. That's the

1836
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>way they do it.

1837
01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.439
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I mean, yeah, back their facts. I'm not I

1838
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:53.800
<v Speaker 15>don't mean it in that way. I don't I'm not

1839
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 15>trying to take it personally. I'm really what I'm doing

1840
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.079
<v Speaker 15>is just trying to figure out what steps I need

1841
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:03.319
<v Speaker 15>to take, because when it comes down to it, the

1842
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:05.479
<v Speaker 15>end result that I'm looking for, I need to know

1843
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:07.760
<v Speaker 15>how to get there, and I don't have anyone helping.

1844
01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:12.199
<v Speaker 15>And honestly, the attorneys I've talked to, even before getting

1845
01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:14.279
<v Speaker 15>into case issues, I couldn't I would be able to

1846
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:17.399
<v Speaker 15>afford them. I mean, I'm just being very real here.

1847
01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:20.920
<v Speaker 15>I'm in a difficult spot. It is what it is,

1848
01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:23.199
<v Speaker 15>and I'm trying my best to get out of it.

1849
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's well, okay, I can't help you getting represented

1850
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>by a free attorney. I don't know how that happens

1851
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 1>or why you're not getting that. I don't know, but

1852
01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you can keep asking for a continuance until you do.

1853
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:39.239
<v Speaker 4>When is your next hearing?

1854
01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:43.880
<v Speaker 15>The pre trial conference is on the thirtieth of September.

1855
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And when you do. Okay, and you can't hire an

1856
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>attorney because you can't afford.

1857
01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:57.159
<v Speaker 15>One realistically, not anymore. I've been fighting the divorce constant

1858
01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:01.279
<v Speaker 15>petitions from my ex wife for over a year. I'm

1859
01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:02.880
<v Speaker 15>just way too far and.

1860
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 13>Debt with that one.

1861
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Hey do I owe you on the thirty one dragon? Okay,

1862
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to take this break hold on. I'm gonna try.

1863
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's try to get someone from I'm going to talk

1864
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to Brook too coming back because we need to talk

1865
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:23.199
<v Speaker 1>about that too, Brooke White from Redbrox roof and Solar.

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01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>If people are waiting to hear, they get tax credits

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01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>on others things coupled with the solar system. And also,

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01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.479
<v Speaker 1>let's see if we can get someone from Harris Family

1869
01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Law Kachina for this guy.

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01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>We got more coming right up.

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<v Speaker 1>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 1>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

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01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>your troubleshooter three all three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five. So we have do

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01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>we have? We don't have anyone available yet for an attorney.

1883
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>We're waiting, but I do want to talk to Brooke

1884
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>White with the red Brox roof.

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01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:36.560
<v Speaker 4>And solar Brooke.

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01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to plumb Line Services about heat pumps

1887
01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and they say they work spectacularly now and if people

1888
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>have a solar system paying for electric anyway, a heat

1889
01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>pump would give them free heat basically, And I know.

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01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:53.199
<v Speaker 4>You push those you think that's a good idea.

1891
01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Our question was this, when you're putting in a residential system,

1892
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:03.479
<v Speaker 1>if people throw in a or you have a contractor

1893
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>come in and do my heat pump and stuff along

1894
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with it. Would that be part of the total for

1895
01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:11.199
<v Speaker 1>which you get a tax credit?

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01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:13.920
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.720
<v Speaker 22>So heat pumps are considered tax credits for two different reasons.

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01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.960
<v Speaker 22>It's a home improvement tax credit which anybody can get

1899
01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:24.479
<v Speaker 22>for improving their house in a variety of things. You

1900
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:26.279
<v Speaker 22>don't need solar tied to it at all.

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01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>How much is it? How much is that credit for

1902
01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:31.199
<v Speaker 1>just home improvement?

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01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:36.159
<v Speaker 22>I can get caps at a thousand dollars for the

1904
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<v Speaker 22>heat pumps, but don't quote me because that's not my industry, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what other what other credit can they get?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 22>So let's say you did a solar deal with me,

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<v Speaker 22>and the solar project was going to be a thousand

1910
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<v Speaker 22>dollars and the heat pump was going to be an

1911
01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:56.000
<v Speaker 22>under another thousand dollars. What I would do is I

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<v Speaker 22>would write the whole contract for two grands, and I

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<v Speaker 22>would make the heat heat pump folks the subcontractor of mind,

1914
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<v Speaker 22>because the insol agreement is what the solar tax credits

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<v Speaker 22>are fully based on.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one would get No one would get in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble for that.

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<v Speaker 22>No, you can add heat pumps if they're insult at

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<v Speaker 22>the same time as the solar. You can do roofs

1920
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:19.760
<v Speaker 22>and you can do like main panel upgrades or other

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01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:22.199
<v Speaker 22>electrical work. Those are the things that are allowed to

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<v Speaker 22>be in a solar insulation agreement to get those tax

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<v Speaker 22>credits on wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 22>You can't add in like, you know, a new house

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<v Speaker 22>or a kitchen sink or you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything like no, no, I know what you're saying, Brooke.

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<v Speaker 4>If it has to do with the energy part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of it and taking advantage of the solar, it can

1930
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:47.079
<v Speaker 1>be all added together for a tax credit, which is spectacular.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, yep, absolutely. So we've had to say redo and

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01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:55.720
<v Speaker 22>entire homes electrical for a variety of reasons to bring

1933
01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.920
<v Speaker 22>it up to code. And that's a twenty grand easy

1934
01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:01.840
<v Speaker 22>project and that's we added that into the solar project.

1935
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<v Speaker 22>So they get the tax credits on that too. So

1936
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<v Speaker 22>it just depends on the specific job that you're doing,

1937
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:13.000
<v Speaker 22>but most everything electrical, heat, pump, roof or solar can

1938
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.920
<v Speaker 22>be added underneath the solar contract for the solar tax credits.

1939
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<v Speaker 4>That's red Rocks rs dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Brooke. Appreciate that red Rocks are a roof

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01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:27.439
<v Speaker 1>and Solar. That's three oh three. I believe it's I

1942
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:29.159
<v Speaker 1>believe that's the wrong number. Let me get the right

1943
01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>number here. I'm sorry she wrote it down a little. Yeah,

1944
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:36.039
<v Speaker 1>it's three oh three nine seven zero four two four

1945
01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>four nine. That's three oh three seven zero four two

1946
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<v Speaker 1>four four nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you, Brooke. We have more coming right up.

1948
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<v Speaker 1>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

1949
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<v Speaker 1>dot com. You don't pay a cent to your content.

1950
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<v Speaker 4>Wait on top of it.

1951
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation in comparison,

1952
01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>call Compass Insurance. Paying too much your coverage at dozens

1953
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

1954
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:12.439
<v Speaker 1>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1955
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<v Speaker 1>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

1956
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<v Speaker 1>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three all

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<v Speaker 1>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 1>your troubleshooter three O three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the show. Let's keep going here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have another issue with the child Cussey, but

1962
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<v Speaker 1>I need to go to Jeff first and vetos on

1963
01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>uh we don't have any lawyers available, Veto. We can

1964
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<v Speaker 1>bring you back on when we do.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So here's the deal, Veto.

1966
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<v Speaker 1>I believe no matter what, no matter what, at this point,

1967
01:40:57.479 --> 01:41:00.439
<v Speaker 1>even if you get a corn To point a attorney,

1968
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you need to pay at least for an initial consultation

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01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:10.079
<v Speaker 1>from a regular paid attorney that does this. Okay, I

1970
01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>would call Harris Family Law for a consultation, just a

1971
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>flat one hour consultation, no matter what you need it.

1972
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:21.439
<v Speaker 4>Don't short yourself that.

1973
01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Then you can always have them turn their notes over

1974
01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to someone else, or you can go to someone else.

1975
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:32.479
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go to another custody after this one.

1976
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<v Speaker 1>After Jeff, I'm going to take Jeff. He's been waiting

1977
01:41:35.159 --> 01:41:38.199
<v Speaker 1>longer on this contractor Jeff, what's going on?

1978
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:39.760
<v Speaker 9>Hey?

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<v Speaker 5>Tom, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to

1980
01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:43.880
<v Speaker 5>give some advice. Of course I made the cardinal mistake

1981
01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:45.159
<v Speaker 5>and on going to your website.

1982
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:46.640
<v Speaker 4>But what happened now?

1983
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

1984
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:50.640
<v Speaker 5>How to duck built living lone tree? How to deck

1985
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:54.720
<v Speaker 5>rebuilt the old one was twenty plus years old? Contractor

1986
01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:55.159
<v Speaker 5>came out?

1987
01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Who was the contractor?

1988
01:41:56.880 --> 01:42:04.920
<v Speaker 5>And a small con structed Jim's Renovations House remodeling in design. Now,

1989
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:08.600
<v Speaker 5>how'd you find and research referral from a friend of

1990
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:12.720
<v Speaker 5>a friend and they did the job. All kind of

1991
01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:14.279
<v Speaker 5>issues during the project.

1992
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<v Speaker 15>They had a worker who had.

1993
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:19.239
<v Speaker 5>A meth overdose. The neighbors found him. Blah blah blah. Anyway,

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01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:24.479
<v Speaker 5>got through it. Oh my god, long story short, I stayed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that your first? I mean, he literally had a

1996
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>meth overdose on your property?

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<v Speaker 15>Correct?

1998
01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:34.760
<v Speaker 5>That was or twice. The neighbors were the ones that

1999
01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:39.079
<v Speaker 5>informed me, and he called the authorities. Anyway, long, that's

2000
01:42:39.319 --> 01:42:42.680
<v Speaker 5>sorry for another time. Got the deck done, not great,

2001
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:44.800
<v Speaker 5>but I thought, you know what, it's a deck. I

2002
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.159
<v Speaker 5>saved some money, and about three weeks ago, all of

2003
01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:50.800
<v Speaker 5>a sudden, the deck started heaving. The boards are popping

2004
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:53.600
<v Speaker 5>up left and right. It's starting to really fall apart.

2005
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:56.640
<v Speaker 5>Reached out to him to come back over. They kept

2006
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:58.680
<v Speaker 5>putting me off, kept putting me off, one issues after

2007
01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:02.119
<v Speaker 5>the other. They showed up this morning, said, yep, it's sagging.

2008
01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:05.239
<v Speaker 5>We need to bolster it. They shut up with a

2009
01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:06.479
<v Speaker 5>auto repair shop.

2010
01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:09.039
<v Speaker 1>When okay, when was the time it was completed to

2011
01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:10.479
<v Speaker 1>the time it started.

2012
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<v Speaker 5>Sagging almost two years to the month.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's important. I asked that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that, so two years. Two years is

2015
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>not a construction problem. Normally it could be a footer

2016
01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>problem on the base. Hold on, we'll come back to this. Okay,

2017
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>two years after completion. Okay, got it? Hang on, I'm

2018
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom Martinez. We have more coming up. Plus we have

2019
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:37.079
<v Speaker 1>plumbline Services dot Com and more on the Troubleshooter Show.

2020
01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

2021
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:44.159
<v Speaker 1>dot Com.

2022
01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.239
<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2023
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison

2024
01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:56.479
<v Speaker 1>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

2025
01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

2026
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to seven to one. Hell, you'll think you're his only

2027
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

2028
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

2029
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, d need advice, so.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have.

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01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Come running as fast as we can.

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01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 13>Come man, this is.

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01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:36.479
<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi Tom Martino.

2036
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Here.

2037
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<v Speaker 1>You'll see on the wise that I got Bob Logan

2038
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>with me from Plumbline Services. If you're tuning into our

2039
01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:44.399
<v Speaker 1>stream and I got my YouTube Moro ons up, but

2040
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get Facebook flunkies.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I can do that. I just have to

2042
01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:49.199
<v Speaker 4>figure it out anyway.

2043
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<v Speaker 1>People, Bob is here and uh, I want to ask

2044
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:55.479
<v Speaker 1>you this time of year, what would you be doing

2045
01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>right now?

2046
01:44:56.520 --> 01:44:58.640
<v Speaker 7>I would be having an expert come out to check

2047
01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:01.680
<v Speaker 7>out my furnace and air conditioning system. You know, the

2048
01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:05.159
<v Speaker 7>end of season for air conditioning, making sure that it'll

2049
01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:07.479
<v Speaker 7>be ready for the next season. And certainly the furnaces,

2050
01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:09.840
<v Speaker 7>you want to make sure they're ready to go, as

2051
01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:12.640
<v Speaker 7>we talked about, because once the cold weather comes, our

2052
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:14.600
<v Speaker 7>phones are going to explode and you're going to be

2053
01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.720
<v Speaker 7>on everybody's waiting list. Get it looked at now. Make

2054
01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:19.760
<v Speaker 7>sure it's ready so that when you need it, it's there.

2055
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Bob, I got a question here from text. Should you

2056
01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>cover the condenser on your air conditioner with a cover.

2057
01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:31.359
<v Speaker 7>It's not necessary. I mean almost all all condensers come

2058
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:36.000
<v Speaker 7>with a hail guard and things like that. Weather it

2059
01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:38.520
<v Speaker 7>doesn't hurt them. I mean they're made to be outside.

2060
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<v Speaker 7>And what happens sometimes is people forget to take those

2061
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:45.399
<v Speaker 7>off before they come air conditioning off and then they

2062
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:49.239
<v Speaker 7>destroy their air conditioning system. So I've never used one.

2063
01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:50.439
<v Speaker 7>We don't recommend them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's not necessary, thank you. Jeff had a deck

2065
01:45:54.359 --> 01:46:02.239
<v Speaker 1>built by Gym's renovation house remodeling, I think, and design

2066
01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:06.439
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Right, so let's continue. Jeff. You had it

2067
01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:11.119
<v Speaker 1>built and it was completed two years ago, right, correct,

2068
01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:13.199
<v Speaker 1>And now it's starting to sag.

2069
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:16.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's starting to buckle.

2070
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:19.359
<v Speaker 4>And well now wait, wait, wait, what's buckling mean?

2071
01:46:19.399 --> 01:46:20.439
<v Speaker 1>What'ses buckling mean?

2072
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:24.760
<v Speaker 5>They didn't use the so they came out today, Steve

2073
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:25.520
<v Speaker 5>the guy who did.

2074
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<v Speaker 1>But just tell me, though, when you look at it,

2075
01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? I just want to know and

2076
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:31.119
<v Speaker 1>then you can get into that part. What does buckling mean?

2077
01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:31.319
<v Speaker 16>Though?

2078
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:38.279
<v Speaker 5>It's literally like a uneven road if you will up

2079
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:39.159
<v Speaker 5>and down curve.

2080
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:42.399
<v Speaker 4>You mean the flat part, the deck, the decking part.

2081
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:48.359
<v Speaker 5>Correct, Yeah, the decking is starting to bow just like crazy.

2082
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:51.520
<v Speaker 5>The railing is up, you know, it's it's pulled the screws.

2083
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:53.840
<v Speaker 5>It's the screws have come out. It's pulling up.

2084
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Waite a minute. But the actual the actual deck itself,

2085
01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>like where it's in the ground. They're not moving or

2086
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:04.119
<v Speaker 1>are they moving? No?

2087
01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:05.920
<v Speaker 5>No, that's that's all good.

2088
01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>What that's okay? I thought you were talking about just

2089
01:47:09.359 --> 01:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the opposite. Okay, So what's going on with it?

2090
01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:15.880
<v Speaker 5>So they were saying they didn't use the correct beam

2091
01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:18.439
<v Speaker 5>on the far end, on the outpart by the by

2092
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.439
<v Speaker 5>the lawn, and that is starting to where it's buckling

2093
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:22.319
<v Speaker 5>because of the weight.

2094
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:24.520
<v Speaker 4>And I said, well, wait a minute.

2095
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So they they said, there's a beam that's over the

2096
01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>footings and the beams.

2097
01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:33.239
<v Speaker 5>There wasn't one. There wasn't a long enough beam. They

2098
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:35.199
<v Speaker 5>said that they could get and if they did, it

2099
01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:37.600
<v Speaker 5>would be way too much money, which I didn't understand.

2100
01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:41.840
<v Speaker 5>But they so they they glued and nailed a bunch

2101
01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:46.239
<v Speaker 5>of one by one buys together to make a beam,

2102
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:47.000
<v Speaker 5>if you will.

2103
01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:48.920
<v Speaker 4>It's called the laminated.

2104
01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:52.199
<v Speaker 1>They do that often, and it can be done properly.

2105
01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:56.039
<v Speaker 1>It's called the lamination, so elaminated beams. So what they

2106
01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:58.159
<v Speaker 1>do is they take one by fours or one by

2107
01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>sixes and they strad of them and they screw them

2108
01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>together and glue them.

2109
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<v Speaker 4>But that didn't work.

2110
01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:08.520
<v Speaker 5>No, that's not work. And then it's just starting to

2111
01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:10.079
<v Speaker 5>just come undone. So they can't.

2112
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It's only only one of the beams. Why only one beam?

2113
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Usually would need a beam, which is a beam the

2114
01:48:16.840 --> 01:48:20.159
<v Speaker 1>house right angle to the house right. So is that?

2115
01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you have one on each side of the long

2116
01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:23.439
<v Speaker 1>part of the deck?

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<v Speaker 5>I do, and it's a it's a large deck.

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01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So are both of them buckling? Did they laminate both sides?

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<v Speaker 5>They did, and both are buckling?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, what about the other one?

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01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>What about the the long Now the two that are

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01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:45.439
<v Speaker 1>buckling are the width of the deck. What about the

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01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>length of the deck.

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01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:49.640
<v Speaker 5>No, those are not buckling.

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01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:53.439
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing, but those are still those are laminated as well.

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<v Speaker 10>Correct, Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand why the two coming off the

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01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:02.199
<v Speaker 1>house house are buckling.

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01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:06.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't. So they showed up today. I've been

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01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:08.680
<v Speaker 5>super patient. They said they were going to show up

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01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.680
<v Speaker 5>last week. They came and brought a bunch of ladders

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01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:12.039
<v Speaker 5>and said they had to go to a car show

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01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:15.119
<v Speaker 5>this weekend. Excuse that excuse. They showed up today and

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01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:17.119
<v Speaker 5>I said, what's the plan. They said, We're going to

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01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:19.680
<v Speaker 5>get you some lag bolts and screw those boards together

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01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:21.479
<v Speaker 5>and that way it won't sag. And I said, what

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01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:23.720
<v Speaker 5>about the rest of the deck. We're going to have

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01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:25.560
<v Speaker 5>to get you on our schedule, but we don't know.

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01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:29.439
<v Speaker 1>When or you mean to replace to replace the buckled parts.

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01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:33.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they'd repair it if you will, yes, And they

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01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:37.479
<v Speaker 5>just weren't. They just weren't prepared, Tom. And so I've

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01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:41.159
<v Speaker 5>been patient enough long enough. And the craftsmanship. If I'd

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01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:43.880
<v Speaker 5>sent you the pictures, you'd be like, oh my goodness,

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01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:44.239
<v Speaker 5>you know what.

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01:49:44.720 --> 01:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But the laminated the beams that are failing, they were

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01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>going to keep in place and just get them back

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01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 1>together again.

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01:49:55.199 --> 01:49:55.520
<v Speaker 16>Correct.

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<v Speaker 5>And I told him, I said, isn't that just putting

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01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:00.279
<v Speaker 5>a band aid on the situation? They said, yes, yes,

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01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:02.600
<v Speaker 5>it but it's always Yeah, but that's all we can

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01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:04.760
<v Speaker 5>do right now. We don't We didn't bring enough of

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01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:07.560
<v Speaker 5>the supplies and I said, well, it's not what I need.

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01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:10.840
<v Speaker 5>And I was just like, you know what, why don't

2155
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:12.399
<v Speaker 5>you go figure out what you need to do to

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01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:14.960
<v Speaker 5>get this deck? I mean, it's turning into a disaster.

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01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And okay, but listen, I this just sounds crazy, but

2158
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:22.079
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to do more than you originally paid for.

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01:50:22.359 --> 01:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>And I seeing this, so you don't think I'm insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say the only thing that's going to fix that

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01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:34.439
<v Speaker 1>is a steel beam or a woold beam that's going

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01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to be more than it would have originally to some extent,

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01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you would have to pay for betterment, not the whole job.

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01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, if they

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01:50:47.039 --> 01:50:50.279
<v Speaker 1>improve the deck. But I'm wondering if you're going to

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01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>pay for betterment, which I think you're gonna need, there's

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01:50:52.960 --> 01:51:00.319
<v Speaker 1>no way they they need. They need to replay the

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01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:06.199
<v Speaker 1>stuff that buckled because of their ineptness, you know they're ineptitude.

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01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:10.319
<v Speaker 1>They need to replace how many like if you look across,

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01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>does the entire surface of the deck have to be replaced?

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01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.039
<v Speaker 5>I could probably live with some of the waving us

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01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:20.640
<v Speaker 5>up somebody.

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01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:22.319
<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't have to live with it.

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01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:25.680
<v Speaker 5>You shouldn't have to live with Yeah, this would be

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01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:28.560
<v Speaker 5>a big, big job to fix this. To be honest

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01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.359
<v Speaker 5>with you, this would be a big This would be

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01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:30.880
<v Speaker 5>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>How much did you pay for this deck?

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01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.800
<v Speaker 5>I think just shy at fifteen thousand.

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01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:38.880
<v Speaker 4>How many square feet?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it's got to be.

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01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, how far out from the house does it come.

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01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:50.600
<v Speaker 5>It goes probably twelve to We would probably just twenty

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01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:53.479
<v Speaker 5>feet out from the house, and it's got to be

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01:51:53.520 --> 01:51:56.199
<v Speaker 5>twenty by fifty feet. It's big.

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01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, twenty by fifty.

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01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:03.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's very long. It runs the whole almost the

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01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:04.159
<v Speaker 5>whole back of the house.

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01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Holy crap, I mean been part in that.

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01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:11.439
<v Speaker 5>So they did in sections. You know, there's two sections

2191
01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:13.760
<v Speaker 5>and one section is fine, it's a little uneven boards,

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01:52:13.760 --> 01:52:16.279
<v Speaker 5>but nothing but the one or they need to fix.

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01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:21.159
<v Speaker 5>And Tom, I'm reasonable. I'm not trying to have them, Hey,

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01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:23.680
<v Speaker 5>you need to replace this whole deck. I'm just my

2195
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:27.359
<v Speaker 5>what I'm what I'm struggling with is I don't really

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01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:29.000
<v Speaker 5>want them here working on this anymore.

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01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:32.560
<v Speaker 4>You pay pennies for this thing. Man, you paid fifteen bucks.

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01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:35.840
<v Speaker 5>I guess. I guess we get what we pay for

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01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:38.640
<v Speaker 5>our shame on me, live and learn. But I was

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01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:40.840
<v Speaker 5>just like, hey, can you can you fix this? And

2201
01:52:41.319 --> 01:52:43.399
<v Speaker 5>they're not prepared to fix it, and I'm like, okay,

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01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:45.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to call you. Do I go to a

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01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:49.199
<v Speaker 5>small claims court. I've documented, I've been I've been cool.

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01:52:49.239 --> 01:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I think I think there probably can go

2205
01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>small claims court, but not to get it fixed and

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01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:59.199
<v Speaker 1>not to get the deck of your dreams. I think

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01:52:59.279 --> 01:53:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you can go to small out.

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01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:02.319
<v Speaker 15>What I'm aware of that I think you can.

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01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Go to small claims court for the value you've gotten.

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01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.359
<v Speaker 1>So what I would do is evaluate what can be used,

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01:53:10.279 --> 01:53:15.479
<v Speaker 1>what value you got for the money? Okay, you got

2212
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the posts in the ground, you got maybe be be

2213
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:24.159
<v Speaker 1>generous and honest on and you need an independent contractor.

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01:53:24.199 --> 01:53:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I would start with Genesis. Tootalexteriors dot com. Mark Schamansky's

2215
01:53:29.479 --> 01:53:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a great guy at Genesis. You know who Genesis is,

2216
01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:38.119
<v Speaker 1>what they do everything, everything on the outside of the house.

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01:53:38.119 --> 01:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And you hear me talk about them all the time.

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01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:44.079
<v Speaker 1>And his number is and and they're really good with decks.

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01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:46.319
<v Speaker 1>It might be a sub or something, but he has

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01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the same people. What I mean is it's he takes responsibility.

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01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>It's three oh three, three oh three six seven nine

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01:53:53.720 --> 01:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>eight five zero nine. Just try him first and then listen. No,

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01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:02.439
<v Speaker 1>ask your question, go ahead.

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01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:05.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm just I guess my my question is twofold? Am

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01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:07.920
<v Speaker 5>I out of the statute of limitations of two years?

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01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.720
<v Speaker 5>Because it is two years the first and small claims

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01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:11.159
<v Speaker 5>the right place.

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01:54:11.279 --> 01:54:15.319
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I don't know you can't allege fraud,

2229
01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>so it's not it's not gonna it would be breach

2230
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of contract.

2231
01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Mark, you've done enough suits?

2232
01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you there? Mark? On the what what is the

2233
01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:30.920
<v Speaker 1>statute on that for for breach? Is it two or

2234
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is it three?

2235
01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:36.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it would still be three, but I don't know.

2236
01:54:38.119 --> 01:54:41.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I just don't know. Look it up. Yeah, okay,

2237
01:54:42.279 --> 01:54:43.359
<v Speaker 4>on breach of contra.

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01:54:43.479 --> 01:54:46.439
<v Speaker 5>And I said something about said something about repose which

2239
01:54:46.479 --> 01:54:49.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't understand. But yeah, that was searching more.

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01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:51.800
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'm doing it right now.

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01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:53.000
<v Speaker 15>Okay.

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01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:57.279
<v Speaker 5>So my direction wouldn't get ahold of Mark and have

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01:54:57.399 --> 01:54:58.560
<v Speaker 5>him come out and take a look.

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01:54:58.640 --> 01:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And then you had three years, by the way for it,

2245
01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you have three years in Colorado for beach of contract. Okay.

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01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.000
<v Speaker 5>So I didn't have a sign contract with him, right handshake?

2247
01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Another mistake? Oh is that gonna get you?

2248
01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:15.359
<v Speaker 1>You can prove that with payment. Yeah.

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01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:17.439
<v Speaker 5>And so my other question is and small planes? Am

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01:55:17.439 --> 01:55:19.880
<v Speaker 5>I only like you said, to be in fair and honest.

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01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:22.600
<v Speaker 5>I've been super fair and honest with them, just trying

2252
01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:25.039
<v Speaker 5>to recoup what it's going to cost to get it

2253
01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:25.600
<v Speaker 5>to where.

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01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:27.800
<v Speaker 4>It No, I just told you you can't do that.

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01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you why.

2256
01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me explain this to you in real basic

2257
01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:33.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff here.

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01:55:34.239 --> 01:55:36.680
<v Speaker 4>If you, let's say, to do that deck.

2259
01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Properly because it goes so far and the soils are

2260
01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:42.439
<v Speaker 1>such and blah blah blah, let's just say, it would

2261
01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:46.359
<v Speaker 1>have taken thirty grand let's just say that, and you

2262
01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>would have had to have special beams and all of that.

2263
01:55:49.560 --> 01:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>The fact that this guy was stupid and bid the

2264
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:57.359
<v Speaker 1>wrong price doesn't mean you get him to do the

2265
01:55:57.439 --> 01:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars job. Okay, it doesn't. But it also

2266
01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you paid fifteen for nothing. I mean

2267
01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you paid him and you should get something in return.

2268
01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>What you should get in return is what you paid for.

2269
01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:20.399
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm suggesting so many people what they do

2270
01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>is they go back and sue the contractor for what

2271
01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:27.399
<v Speaker 1>they should have gotten. But you didn't pay for.

2272
01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:30.760
<v Speaker 4>What you should have gotten. Does that make sense to you?

2273
01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you paid and should get value for every penny.

2274
01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:42.439
<v Speaker 1>So if you go back to that deck and you

2275
01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:46.560
<v Speaker 1>say what can actually be used here, and you use

2276
01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>someone honest who's not going to say I tear the

2277
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:52.119
<v Speaker 1>whole thing out, you know, because everyone wants to do that,

2278
01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:58.199
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at it legally more than contractually. So a

2279
01:56:58.239 --> 01:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>good deck builder who says, you know what, we can

2280
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>keep these posts the railings. Okay, we need to replace

2281
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the top rail. We need to do this. So what

2282
01:57:07.840 --> 01:57:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they do is then value what it would cost them

2283
01:57:12.079 --> 01:57:17.279
<v Speaker 1>or a decent contractor to do what you've gotten, not

2284
01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>what was.

2285
01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Destroyed, but what you've gotten.

2286
01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>So let's say you got ten grand worth of value

2287
01:57:26.800 --> 01:57:32.399
<v Speaker 1>in the posts and the salvageable part. Okay. Now when

2288
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I say salvageable, I don't mean having to take it

2289
01:57:35.760 --> 01:57:38.119
<v Speaker 1>apart and put it back together. I mean the way

2290
01:57:38.159 --> 01:57:42.039
<v Speaker 1>it sits. If you have to take off some of

2291
01:57:42.079 --> 01:57:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the good boards and keep them, you got to subtract

2292
01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the labor from that. So you're looking at value received.

2293
01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:57.199
<v Speaker 1>So let's say you paid such a ridiculous price and

2294
01:57:57.239 --> 01:58:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the guy was so desperate he underbid it woefully. I'm

2295
01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>not saying this happen. But if he underbid it woefully

2296
01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and you actually got the value of what you paid,

2297
01:58:11.680 --> 01:58:16.039
<v Speaker 1>even after part of it failed, then you would be even.

2298
01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:17.840
<v Speaker 4>But I'm not saying you did.

2299
01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:20.479
<v Speaker 1>So let's say you got five thousand dollars worth of

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01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>value you paid fifteen you should, then you would be

2301
01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>due in a perfect world ten grand. Okay, that's how

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01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you look at it.

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01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:35.319
<v Speaker 5>I gotcha, and then that that helps.

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01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>That helps you when you go to court and not

2305
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:43.479
<v Speaker 1>sound like a nut. So let's say though, let's say

2306
01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:48.119
<v Speaker 1>it it's ten grand you're owed. If you're owed ten grand,

2307
01:58:48.439 --> 01:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know the other issue, and you want to go

2308
01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to small change you can get.

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01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Pass it if you win.

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01:58:52.680 --> 01:58:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Do you think he can possibly pay you?

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01:58:56.399 --> 01:58:56.479
<v Speaker 1>No?

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01:58:56.800 --> 01:59:01.880
<v Speaker 5>I mentioned today, you know, hey, I could probably be

2313
01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:05.880
<v Speaker 5>litigious here, and he said you won't get anything from us.

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01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:08.119
<v Speaker 6>That's I guess that's the other point you always got

2315
01:59:08.279 --> 01:59:10.920
<v Speaker 6>to think of. I mean, small claims. It's only fifty

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01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:13.720
<v Speaker 6>five bucks to file. But let me tell you, you're gonna

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01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:15.720
<v Speaker 6>have to find them. You're gonna have to get them served,

2318
01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:18.000
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna have to give up the day to show

2319
01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:20.760
<v Speaker 6>up to court, and most likely, depending on the county,

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01:59:20.800 --> 01:59:22.439
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna have a full day of mediation.

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01:59:22.640 --> 01:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Is what I'm going to tell you a story on that,

2322
01:59:25.560 --> 01:59:27.279
<v Speaker 1>coming back on how that works.

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01:59:27.479 --> 01:59:29.159
<v Speaker 4>We got more coming up.

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01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing

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<v Speaker 1>three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three all three seven one three

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<v Speaker 1>talks seven one three eight two five five YouTube morons,

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<v Speaker 1>if I knew better about how to stream this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like Mark does on that other platform, because we're temporarily

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<v Speaker 1>over on a new platform today, I could show you

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<v Speaker 1>Hellcat we took them. I took them Saturday, was it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday to a country airport where they had a pancake

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast and then we took them for a ride. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fun anyway. I'll try to post that when I

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance. So YouTube morons thought I was kidding

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<v Speaker 1>when I said, if you want, you tell me. And

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<v Speaker 1>for being a YouTube moron, I'm going to select someone

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then to take for rides. Can't beat that,

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<v Speaker 1>can you? So Gary's got to come in on this deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Issue go ahead, What do you have to say about

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<v Speaker 1>this deck?

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<v Speaker 16>Gary, Well, I built a lot of deck and you

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<v Speaker 16>had some good advice, but I would question the design

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<v Speaker 16>and the structural integrity of the deck sent from the

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<v Speaker 16>sloppy job these guys did. And my question is was

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<v Speaker 16>there a permit pool because luxury would require a permanent

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<v Speaker 16>to build a deck, and then was there a final inspection?

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<v Speaker 1>All of that, All of that is valid, Gary, but

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<v Speaker 1>has really nothing to do with value received. If, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>those posts are not done properly because it wasn't designed right,

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<v Speaker 1>then that would be zero value. Right. So if we

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<v Speaker 1>get a good deck builder in there who says these

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<v Speaker 1>were done properly this week can reuse this was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really getting down to the raw essence of how

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<v Speaker 1>much he was screwed. You're right about design, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>right about permits. When it comes to contracting someone absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely critical. You want to make sure they didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>pull the design out of their butt and that they

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<v Speaker 1>got to permit. You're right, you're right, although permits, permits

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily provide you the protection you think. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these inspectors don't don't do crap, you know, but some

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Do are you in the deck business, Gary, No, but.

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<v Speaker 16>I've built a few for friends. I have a good

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<v Speaker 16>relationship with the deck Superstore and Commerce City, and I've

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<v Speaker 16>worked with them on design and in different codes.

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<v Speaker 1>How would a homeowner know if it's designed properly, though, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>How would a homeowner note.

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<v Speaker 16>The reputation of the contractor?

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe does do decks require any kind of engineering?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, right, not.

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<v Speaker 16>Really, But there is code for like the distance between

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<v Speaker 16>Joyce and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, and that's where that that's where their permit

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<v Speaker 1>would come in, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>And like concrete posts, they have to be eight inches

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<v Speaker 16>minimum out of the ground, okay, And they specify specific

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<v Speaker 16>fasteners for the deck post.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's very good, very good. So that is a

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<v Speaker 1>good reason to make sure it's under code and have

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<v Speaker 1>to permit. And then I'm hoping that, of of course

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<v Speaker 1>Mark goes out there from Genesis, that he'll take that

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration, because when it comes to value, it really

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<v Speaker 1>does depend on the actual you know, quality, Otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the value. I got to go on to Terry. Now, Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been waiting quite a bit. Thank you, guys, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. What's going on Terry.

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<v Speaker 17>Hey Tom, thanks to take my call.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir ask us.

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<v Speaker 17>So just a quick question. I share fifty fifty physical

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<v Speaker 17>custody with mom. I have full sole legal custee for

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<v Speaker 17>health care, school, religion.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, my question is this.

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<v Speaker 17>My daughter's in eighth grade. They're taking a trip to Washington,

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<v Speaker 17>d C.

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<v Speaker 5>New York.

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<v Speaker 17>They're going to see the inauguration when Trump gets re elected,

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<v Speaker 17>and so she's all she loves Trump.

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<v Speaker 15>I love Trump.

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<v Speaker 17>But anyway, my question is this, Tom, is so Mom

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<v Speaker 17>originally was for it, and then she's not for it.

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<v Speaker 17>And then I talked to my daughter, I'm paying for

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<v Speaker 17>the whole.

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<v Speaker 5>Cost of it.

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<v Speaker 17>She would leave on my week, but then she would

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<v Speaker 17>get back in the middle of mom's week. It's it's

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<v Speaker 17>it's it's not a field trip for school, but it's

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<v Speaker 17>it's school teachers and they have all the chaperones and

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<v Speaker 17>all that. My question is do I have the ability

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<v Speaker 17>to make that final decision with legal custody sole legal custody.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have sole legal custody, is it leaving the state.

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<v Speaker 17>It is it's leaving a Laska to go to Washington,

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<v Speaker 17>d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you absolutely can keep them from taking your daughter

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<v Speaker 1>out of state.

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<v Speaker 17>No, no, no, I want her to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I want Okay, okay, that's a good question. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you have full if you have full custody.

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<v Speaker 17>Legal full, so I have full sole legal, just illegal,

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<v Speaker 17>and then we have fifty to fifty physical where every.

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<v Speaker 1>Other week it's called visitation. Yeah, okay, you have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm look at I'm not giving you a

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<v Speaker 1>legal advice, but it sounds logical to me. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have sole legal custody, then you should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>make the choice. Of course, you can make the choice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only in joint custody where you need the permission

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<v Speaker 1>of the other parent. I mean, that's right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not giving legal advice. But from my

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<v Speaker 1>past cases we've had on the show where experts have

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<v Speaker 1>come on, the only time anyone to leave the state

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<v Speaker 1>or to leave the country would need any kind of permission. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two cases actually, even with sole custody, Even with

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<v Speaker 1>sole custody, if the divorce or childcare decree calls for permission,

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02:06:26.840 --> 02:06:31.960
<v Speaker 1>then there has to be permission. For example, sometimes parents

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<v Speaker 1>will give up custody because they work their butts off

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<v Speaker 1>and they know they can't take them fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but they want to visit them every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. In that case, there could be a decree

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<v Speaker 1>that says although father or although mother has one hundred

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02:06:47.560 --> 02:06:53.239
<v Speaker 1>percent legal custody and domicile that that in order to

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<v Speaker 1>move out of the country or out of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>you need permission. So you absence of the absence of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any reason why you couldn't. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's not in your decree anywhere?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, So what it states is that I just need

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<v Speaker 17>to let mom know if if I'm going to if

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<v Speaker 17>Selah is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To go out of state, and you're sure, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>it says. It doesn't say you must seek permission.

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<v Speaker 17>No, it just says I have to let her know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then you're answering your own question, I would think.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, obviously, I'm going to call my attorney just

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<v Speaker 15>a double check.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course you could, of course you should. And

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<v Speaker 1>how long is she going to be gone?

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<v Speaker 5>Just a week?

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<v Speaker 14>Just six days?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going with her?

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<v Speaker 17>I'm not going with her. She's going with other kids

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<v Speaker 17>from the school and the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's another thing that I hate that happens once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. I don't know what expression to use

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but it happens in child custody, child care,

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02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:04.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to education, and that's when people try

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<v Speaker 1>to interpret for themselves what they think is right. And

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<v Speaker 1>it happens with medical and health, with religion and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you an example. You have one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent soul custody, and you are getting braces for your kid,

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02:08:22.439 --> 02:08:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and your kid needs some extractions, and the mom writes

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02:08:27.800 --> 02:08:30.079
<v Speaker 1>to the dentist or calls the dentists, said, if you

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<v Speaker 1>touch my daughter without my permission, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>hell to pay. Now, you have one hundred percent decision making,

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02:08:38.479 --> 02:08:42.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent custody. But in that case you have

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02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:47.239
<v Speaker 1>people who air on the side of doing nothing just

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02:08:47.359 --> 02:08:49.760
<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to be dragged into it. So

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<v Speaker 1>just let me warn you. If the mom is really

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<v Speaker 1>bitter and really really strong minded, I'll bet you if

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<v Speaker 1>she called the school and said, if you take my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter out of this state, I am going to sue you,

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02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. They may say, you know, Terry, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>you have legal rights, but we're we're not gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You may sometimes you run into that because people get

2491
02:09:14.720 --> 02:09:18.039
<v Speaker 1>so bent out of shape and they don't want to

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02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>be dragged in the middle of it. So just be

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<v Speaker 1>just be forewarned of that. We have more coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on The Troubleshooter Show. Three oh three seven one three

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<v Speaker 1>bucks seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 1>to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

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<v Speaker 1>you he was. Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 1>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 1>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 1>your Troubleshooter three O three seven one three talk three

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<v Speaker 1>O three seven one three eight two five five. Greg,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. What's going on in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Greg took Greg, Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, I took my twenty thirteen GMC terrain to the

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02:10:40.560 --> 02:10:44.600
<v Speaker 14>shop because it just quit quit driving. I couldn't start it,

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02:10:45.239 --> 02:10:47.920
<v Speaker 14>and they told me I need a new engine. So

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<v Speaker 14>a huged engine is ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I mean, just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a new engine?

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<v Speaker 4>How many miles on this saying thing? They're pretty hardy?

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<v Speaker 14>One hundred and twenty four thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it driven hard and put up wet?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 14>I bought it when it had about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 14>five thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so you have you have no idea how

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<v Speaker 1>it was treated? Right?

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<v Speaker 13>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not a diesel right, No, this.

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<v Speaker 14>Is a sixth cylinder Oh okay, six cylinder engine three

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<v Speaker 14>point six leader, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm trying to find out who you recommend to contact

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<v Speaker 14>for either taking it there or at least a second opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Kevin Colkoin be a great second opinion on that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really, he would be where are.

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<v Speaker 5>You located, Lewisville?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I'll tell you where to go? Yeah, hands

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<v Speaker 1>on auto tech.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. He's a great guy man, Tom, You'll love him.

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<v Speaker 14>Tom, I'm looking him up right now. That is perfect,

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<v Speaker 14>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's right near you. And you want to talk honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, I need honesty at that price.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's also value I No, he's a good guy. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a really good guy. So what were you being

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<v Speaker 1>quoted so far on that? First of all, you may

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<v Speaker 1>not even need it. But what were you quoted on

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<v Speaker 1>that engine?

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<v Speaker 14>So for a used engine ten thousand dollars fully installed,

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<v Speaker 14>fully installed? For a rebuild engine thirteen thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's about Yeah, those six cylinders don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>staypower as the other bigger ones. But do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the do you like the condition of the vehicle otherwise?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 15>I do.

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<v Speaker 14>It's it's a great car. Otherwise. I only paid eleven

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<v Speaker 14>thousand for it five years ago. Okay, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 14>a cost that's more than the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not going to be okay, but you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be buried if you truly keep it.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I own it out right now. I just have

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<v Speaker 14>to come up with the money for the engine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Try there. You may not need it. They

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to rebuild what you have. There are

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of options. Did anyone tell you why you

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<v Speaker 1>need an engine. Usually they got to run it or

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<v Speaker 1>check it first. What did they do as far as

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped the compression?

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<v Speaker 14>And I've got bad compression in four of the six cylinders.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Did they ever mention like a top job or

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<v Speaker 1>you know head now?

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<v Speaker 14>They told me it would cost more to rebuild it

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<v Speaker 14>than it would to buy an engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that could be so, that could be so?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me know what happens at hands On.

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<v Speaker 1>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. How about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom Martine. You're trawl shooter three O three seven

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<v Speaker 1>bob Logan plumb line services.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, now, eating cooling, plumbing, electrical drain cleaning.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, hey, po, guys still do a TV chargers ninety

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<v Speaker 6>three or free? You still do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? We do?

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, in fact, this month we got a special

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<v Speaker 7>so it's not only ninety three or free for a

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<v Speaker 7>drain cleaning special fee.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't clear. It's free, but will include on mainlines,

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<v Speaker 4>will include a free video inspection this month only.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety sure or free plus free drains plus free video.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean free video.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the most unbelievable service anybody listening out there.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have a slow drain and you're sick and

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<v Speaker 6>tired of say that kitchen sink taken forever, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 6>you call these guys up. They're either going to fix

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<v Speaker 6>it for ninety three bucks like they did at my house.

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<v Speaker 6>And I didn't call up going oh Bob, I need

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<v Speaker 6>a favor. I just called up their regular number. They

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<v Speaker 6>came out, they came inside ninety three dollars later. My

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<v Speaker 6>drain's been perfect for.

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<v Speaker 4>Over a year. That's the best deal in the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and let's let's speak. But let's be clear that we

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<v Speaker 4>will clear the drain.

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<v Speaker 1>We will.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's a broken pipe or something like that, well

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<v Speaker 7>of courseans to repair it.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, yes, mine happened to be. If we can't

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<v Speaker 4>clear it, it's free.

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<v Speaker 6>Mine happened to be basically old grease and stuff that

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<v Speaker 6>goes down the main kitchen sake.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it happens very common, even even if people

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<v Speaker 7>don't pour grease down there. Just the food and the

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<v Speaker 7>sludge and everything else builds up over time, so very common.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you even I hate to say, but how

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<v Speaker 4>do you even afford to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Bob?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I guess really what you're hoping is eventually

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<v Speaker 6>you find someone that's got a real problem like the

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<v Speaker 6>drains broke, and then you actually get a good paying

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<v Speaker 6>job out of it.

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<v Speaker 7>That that's part of it, Mark, But and certainly do

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<v Speaker 7>come across broken lines and we'll give you options for

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<v Speaker 7>a repair. But we just want an opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 7>in a new customer's home and show them what a

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<v Speaker 7>what a great company. We have, you know, the representative's

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<v Speaker 7>top quality.

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<v Speaker 6>So they put on both their technicians came out. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>the main drain guy came out. He was training another guy.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they put on booties. They just do everything right.

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<v Speaker 6>They're great people.

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<v Speaker 7>So if we if we didn't, if we didn't charge

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<v Speaker 7>her for that call, if it was free, that that

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<v Speaker 7>call mark.

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<v Speaker 4>But no I paid and you cleared it, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it but if it was free, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get it clean.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, we want to do such an outstanding job that

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<v Speaker 7>you'll remember us when you have heating and cooling or

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<v Speaker 7>electrical or other plumbing issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what I like. If it's if they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get it for ninety three, there's a problem, man, Tom Hambridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem is yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh three oh three

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<v Speaker 1>five eight six ten eighty six, five eight six ten

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six. They also like you going to the website.

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<v Speaker 1>You can contact them there too. Plumbline Services dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people remember that plumb line Services dot

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<v Speaker 1>com
