1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: I made a decision. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Pay sunny sound on Hihead of Vision yet night. 3 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Well, hello everybody, and welcome to for Crying Out Loud. 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,519 I'm Stephanie Wilder Taylor and in for Lynette Corolla, which 5 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:27,679 I'll get to in a minute, is my one of 6 00:00:27,679 --> 00:00:32,280 my besties, but also starting to become a frequent flyer 7 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:33,479 on this show. 8 00:00:33,799 --> 00:00:39,119 Speaker 2: Tamramello, Hi everybody. Hi Stephanie. I feel like I haven't 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,439 seen you in so long. 10 00:00:41,119 --> 00:00:43,719 Speaker 1: Because we really haven't seen each other in a while. Now, 11 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:48,960 normally we would do this over lunch at the Yardhouse. 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've been like two ships passing in the night. 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, because a lot's been going on in your life. 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,560 One of the things is something that you're going to 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,159 talk about on Patreon. Yes, I'll come out tomorrow. But 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,439 your sister just had a baby. 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: Yes, my baby sister just had a baby, my little niece. 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,879 She's in the nic you, but she's she's doing well, 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,719 she's getting stronger, and so we're hoping she gets to 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,359 come home soon. 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if this is too personal, but 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,680 so what happened. So she just started to go into 23 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:26,439 labor early. 24 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, So she went to the hospital on Wednesday, she 25 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,319 just went in for a stress test and then they 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,079 were like, oh, the baby's heart rate seems to be dropping. 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,439 We're gonna have to do a C section like immediately, 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,840 So like all hands on deck, everybody drops, everything, goes 29 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:47,359 to the hospital and then they're like, you know what, 30 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:50,040 things is like leveled out. 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: A little bit. 32 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:52,959 Speaker 2: They were able to give the baby some steroid and 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,920 her heart leveled out, and then it was like, we're 34 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,719 just going to keep you overnight for observation and then 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,079 you can go home in the morning. And then in 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,280 the morning, I get like a panic call they're doing 37 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:09,080 the sea section at ten, and so I rush over 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,759 there and I got there in time they pushed her 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,280 sea section. So anyway, baby was born on Thursday, and 40 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:21,599 she was like a decent wait for being a month early. 41 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:25,759 She was like five towns eight dunces. But she started 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,599 to struggle a little bit with like blood sugar, and 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,680 she was jaundice and some stuff like that. So she's 44 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:36,000 in the nickeo, but you know, she's in very good hands, 45 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:40,639 and my sister's doing well. She gets to come home today. 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,080 So yeah, so we're all excited about this new little 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,680 baby and we're all so worried about her. 48 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: But so she's having blood sugar changes, but other than that, 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,439 she's fine. And the jaundice that's all they all get. JNDAE. 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So right now she's in a little 51 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:03,199 tanning bed with tiny sun glasses on, and yeah, it's 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,479 her blood sugar. And then something else was a little 53 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:11,080 oh she was she wasn't keeping food down. She was 54 00:03:11,319 --> 00:03:14,159 she was spitting up, and so she hasn't really been 55 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:18,599 able to nurse. But as of the last couple of days, 56 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:22,719 she's she's taking bottles of breast milk and so hopefully 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,520 we'll get her on the boob soon. But at least 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,879 she's eating and she's keeping it down. 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: When my twins were in the NICU, the funny thing 60 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,199 was that Sadie, who was born only two pounds, was 61 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,199 just chilling. All she needed was her temp regulated, uh huh. 62 00:03:41,439 --> 00:03:46,439 Whereas Xander was it what needed some extra oxygen. He 63 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:50,680 was twice the weight of Sadie. So interesting, yeah, but 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,360 he needed a little bit more intervention. But then when 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,599 he got that intervention, he was out quicker and Sadie 66 00:03:56,639 --> 00:03:59,800 was just there longer. How much does Xander weigh when 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,199 he was born he weighed for like four and a 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,919 half pounds. 69 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,319 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so significantly more than Sadie. 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sadie weigh like two and a half to Sadie 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,240 weigh two point four, I want to say, and Xander 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,360 weigh four point six something. 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,639 Speaker 2: Like that, so almost twice as much as her. 74 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 75 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, my little sister was just a little over two 76 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:29,560 pounds when she was born. Interesting, right, and now she's 77 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:31,639 you know, a good six inches taller than me. 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh really wildly unfair. Now you are probably what are you? 79 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:38,639 Five to one? 80 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: I think I'm five to two. It was funny the 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,560 other day I had I had lunch with some girlfriends 82 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,680 who are all of normal height, and they were all 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,040 talking about, like, you know, like when kids are like 84 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,240 like barely over five foot, like doing interventions and like 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,439 giving them growth hormones and like how disc the cold. 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,360 One of my friends was like, it's really. 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,519 Speaker 3: Difficult for my twelve year old because she's only five 88 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,120 to three, and da da da, And I'm like, Okay, 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,759 I'm going to address the elephant in the room here, 90 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 which is your five to two friend, and I'm fine. 91 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: I have never felt disabled. I have never felt like 92 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:18,600 I needed to be taller. 93 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,639 Speaker 1: I don't think you're five to two. I'm just gonna 94 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:25,399 go ahead and say it. Sadie is only five to one, 95 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,959 and I do not think you're that much taller than Sadie. 96 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: I've probably shrunk in my old age, but I'm hanging 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,319 on to that five to two. It's on my driver's license, 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,519 and you can't prove me wrong. 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,319 Speaker 1: It's funny because you know, Sadie is one of those 100 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,319 people who was on the growth hormones. But and our 101 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:48,040 listeners know this, this was a I mean, they went 102 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:51,079 through with me, but we really went back and forth 103 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,560 because my feeling was if she's even going to be 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,360 four eleven, which they had said she she'll probably well 105 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,279 they said between four nine and four eleven, and so 106 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,560 I was like, so let's say she's for eleven. That's fine. 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,839 You know, I know a lot of people, a lot 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,480 of women who are for eleven. It is not a big, 109 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,040 a huge deal. They're adorable. It's super cute for women 110 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,639 to be short, Like, why not, it's so gone to 111 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:22,839 sun me listen that the discriminatory attitudes are mostly about 112 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:26,680 short men. You do not hear people putting down short women. 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,519 I never I've never heard it. I've never heard anybody 114 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,920 be like, Ooh, I would never date like a short woman. 115 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,920 I've never heard. 116 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're right. And honestly, like, 117 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:39,279 as an actor, it actually helped me because there are 118 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,360 a lot of very very short male actors running around, 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,199 so like a lot of times we would have to 120 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:49,399 do like height tests and stuff, and so actually being 121 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:52,360 shorter was an advantage for women. 122 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So in my opinion, in my mind, I was like, 123 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:58,360 I don't think that's going to be huge. I'm not 124 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:01,160 going to give this child. I'll put them on growth 125 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:05,839 hormones every day for years so that they'll be five 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,240 to one. If they're going to be four eleven, who cares. 127 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:12,240 It wasn't until and that was when she was three. 128 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:15,680 They started telling us that, like, you can, you have 129 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:18,240 the option to do growth hormones and we were like, well, 130 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:21,839 why there could be side effects. There's like a lot 131 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:24,879 of reasons not to do that. It wasn't until she 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,959 was seven, I want to say that we were like, 133 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,120 this kid has never reached the growth chart. Right at 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,959 this rate of growing, there's no possible way this kid's 135 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:39,639 going to be even four nine. This is not you know. Yeah. 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,120 So then we went and got a second opinion, and 137 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:47,800 that was the head of the Department of endochronology. We 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 were just like, this is ridiculous. We want to see 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,839 the head of the department. We're getting such like you're fine, 140 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:56,279 you're fine, You're fine. And then he said, no, this 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,600 kid's going to be maybe four seven, Like maybe. 142 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: For second course, if you got to do it to 143 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:06,360 intervene is there and make her quality of life better, 144 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:07,079 then you take it. 145 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,519 Speaker 1: And we took it and then she but she had 146 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,600 to do shots every single day, seven days long for 147 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,079 seven years. Whoa from seven to fourteen? Wow? 148 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,199 Speaker 2: So they do it and tell their growth plates closed? 149 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Is that? 150 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you know how Wow, it's a long time. 151 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Well it worked, it worked. But my point is like 152 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:32,799 now she's still really small, she's probably just not quite 153 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:36,399 five to one, but it's totally fine. She's fine with it. 154 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:40,120 She's it's much better than being four six or four seven. 155 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:42,919 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because there's a line, like what's the line 156 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,440 where it's considered a disability, right. 157 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:47,519 Speaker 1: I don't know what the line is, but then you 158 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,720 need special pedals right around there. Yeah, And we were 159 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:54,679 like our whole thing was, look, if she becomes an 160 00:08:54,759 --> 00:08:59,279 adult and she's disabled, and she's like, wait, hold on 161 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,279 a minute, right, you could have put me on growth 162 00:09:02,279 --> 00:09:05,360 hormones when I was seven and I would have just 163 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,240 been a normal person. Yeah. Yeah, Now I'm being like ablest. 164 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,080 I don't mean a normal person. I just mean you 165 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:16,720 could have prevented me from having this hardship more difficult 166 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,480 life pretty easily, but you just chose not to. I 167 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:23,360 was like, I think she would be more mad than 168 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,639 she will. She'll get used to the shots. And she did. 169 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you did the right thing. And 170 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:32,720 like being five to one or for me who's much 171 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,440 taller at five two, you know, I think of that 172 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,120 sometimes where I'm like, you know, like I'm moving chairs 173 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,279 across the kitchen to stamp on them to get something. 174 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:43,919 But I've been doing that for my whole life, so 175 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,960 it's not like I notice a difference. Like I've never 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,159 I've never been tall, so the way I deal with 177 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 like getting things that are up high as I stand 178 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,000 on stuff, and it's never it's never felt odd to 179 00:09:57,039 --> 00:10:00,360 me or like that's not fair. Like I like having 180 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:02,639 tall friends because then they can just get stuff for me. 181 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,919 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's interesting being so I was always 182 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 five five and a half and now I'm five four, 183 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,279 and I just there's certain things that I think we 184 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,600 all have that you just don't notice. You just don't notice. 185 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,519 Like I guess I'm average height. I've never felt tall. 186 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,080 I've never felt short. Yeah, fantastic, It's just my height 187 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,759 is what it is, which I guess I'm kind of relieved, 188 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:32,799 like I've never had to think about certain things either way. 189 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like most people don't think unless, 190 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,240 you know, when when kids are growing and like the 191 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,000 girls are taller than the boys. Like I think there's 192 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,080 probably a level there of like you know, awkwardness and stuff. 193 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,519 But I imagine once you get to the height, you're going 194 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,120 to be Like I have friends that are like six 195 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:56,759 four six five. They're just used to ducking all the time, 196 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:59,519 you know what I mean. Think it doesn't occur to 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,840 them like this is weird, this sucks. 198 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: They just duck. Yeah. I do have a friend though, 199 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:10,159 a female friend who's very, very very tall, and it 200 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,919 sucked for her. It was awful as a woman to 201 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 be crazy tall because that's all she would hear about. 202 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,919 Like people have no issue with just being rude and 203 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,679 saying like, oh my god, how's the weather up there, 204 00:11:23,759 --> 00:11:26,679 and like stupid stuff. And it's hard to date because 205 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,639 you have to only date other well you don't have to, 206 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,720 but I guess it's more comfortable because of this thing 207 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:36,639 that I'm saying where men feel like they don't want 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,519 a woman who's way taller than them, makes them feel, 209 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:44,320 I don't know, emasculated. It's a weird society thing because 210 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:47,200 now I got a son who's five to five, and 211 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:49,679 you have a son who's so shorter a son too, 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,919 and you know that's it's hard, you know, especially I 213 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,759 get my feelings hurt on his behalf when I hear 214 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,080 people women say even will sometimes make a comment and 215 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,879 be like about a guy and be like, well he's 216 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:08,279 really short. I'm like, right, yeah, who cares? 217 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: I know. I hope that there's a change that's happening 218 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:16,039 where it just starts to not matter as much to people, 219 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,840 you know, like as we move into where I hope 220 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:25,159 is a more inclusive era of like, you know, we're 221 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:29,440 seeing more body positivity. I hope that height thing kind 222 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,879 of goes away a little bit, although I don't know 223 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:32,320 that it will. 224 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a lot easier as a man 225 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,679 to be short in the gay community because then somebody 226 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 gets to has to be the short one. Yeah, I 227 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:47,600 think so thinks really uneducated of me, or. 228 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that we're both educated because I 229 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:50,559 think so. 230 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:54,039 Speaker 1: These are things I wonder to myself, you know, Yeah, 231 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:55,559 somebody has to. 232 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: Be the short one to the bottom of it, or 233 00:12:57,759 --> 00:12:58,960 we could just ask somebody. 234 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:03,039 Speaker 1: I just feel like lesbians would not give a fuck. 235 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: No, no, well, listen, I would need to know. 236 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,399 Speaker 1: Lesbians are just people. 237 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: Some of them might like talk women, some of that 238 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:13,960 may not. 239 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:16,519 Speaker 1: But then that would be such a personal preference and 240 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,240 not like a thing like, oh my god, you don't 241 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,960 want to be like a short lesbian like you're that's 242 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:31,080 probably never occurred to anybody, right, maybe to get canceled camera, 243 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,759 And you're. 244 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: Gonna help me with many people. So let me say 245 00:13:34,519 --> 00:13:38,320 short people check tall people, check lesbians check gay men 246 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,840 check short men. 247 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:44,039 Speaker 1: Like we've we've run the gamut. Yeah, no, we're I'm 248 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,559 not insulting short men. I'm saying I'm I'm pro shortman. 249 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,279 That's what I just want. If you take nothing else 250 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,559 from this conversation, it's let's stop. Let's let's leave short 251 00:13:55,639 --> 00:14:01,559 men alone. They're awesome and listen. It just needs some confidence, 252 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,320 you know. Yeah, I don't think we're helping. It's always 253 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,159 bothered me, this thing of like, I don't know, I've 254 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,360 always been sensitive for when women make a lot of 255 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:17,679 jokes about like penis size, I always just feel bad 256 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,840 because these are things that people cannot help about themselves, 257 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,360 you know. And when people are like, I'm proudly a 258 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:26,559 size queen. I only like big dicks. 259 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: It's like, why I'm I'm in no way a size queen. 260 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:35,480 But I will tell you I've had a little experience 261 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,080 with like I'm going to go ahead and say microfallis, 262 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Like I think it was like a legitimate, like a 263 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,120 are you in situation? 264 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: And that wasn't great for me, right, yeah, But let 265 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,480 me ask you this. Were you surprised by the micro situation? Yeah, 266 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:58,960 I was surprised. 267 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. It really it didn't change my feelings. 268 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,879 It didn't change like how I felt about this person. 269 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:11,559 It wasn't great, you know, but it was only one 270 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,879 side of the relationship, so it wasn't It wasn't that 271 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:15,519 big a deal. 272 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: But it is worth noting now I have this happen 273 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:20,120 to me too. 274 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: You know what's funny is if anyone I've ever dated 275 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,919 is listening to this, they're wondering if I'm talking about them. 276 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I think they would know, right, Like, if you have 277 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,840 a legit situation, a tiny situation, you know, you know. 278 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: But it's still the people who who don't have that situation, 279 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,080 they still might be thinking I'm talking about them. We'll 280 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,200 see what kind of text I get. 281 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:50,159 Speaker 1: That's because all men who have penises probably fear that 282 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,519 it's not they're not enough. Yeah, unless they're super well endowed. 283 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,120 I bet you're somewhere out there there's a guy with 284 00:15:57,159 --> 00:15:59,720 like a ten inch penis who's like, oh, it feels 285 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:05,360 kind of small like sometimes. But here's here's what happened 286 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,320 with me. I dated somebody with a very very with 287 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,039 probably a micro situation, who told me about it ahead 288 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:18,080 of time. Okay, oh to situations. Two situations happened. One 289 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:21,279 was a guy who we were on a date and 290 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,360 we were making out. I thought this guy was so hot. 291 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 I really liked him, and he kind of at one 292 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,159 point we were making out, kind of rubbing up against 293 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,720 each other. Maybe I don't know. I was in my 294 00:16:31,799 --> 00:16:34,120 twenties and he sort of rolls away and he says, 295 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,639 what would you say if I told you I'm not 296 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,600 well endowed? And I kind of started laughing because I 297 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:49,679 thought he was I thought he was making a joke, 298 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:51,120 you know what I mean. It was like the way 299 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,679 this situation was, I thought he was being kind of 300 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,159 funny and I started laughing and he got super offended 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,799 and was like, uh, wow, that's that's rude or something. 302 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,200 And then I was like, no, no, no, I I 303 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,279 were you being serious. I thought you were kind of 304 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,839 joking and he was like and then it moodkiller. 305 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a real moodkiller. 306 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:16,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other than that guy, I never heard from 307 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,079 him again. He was mad. Another situation happened though, where 308 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,480 I was definitely dating this guy and he said I 309 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:28,160 need to tell you something and then he said, I 310 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,279 have a really really small penis. And then now in 311 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:37,319 that case, I wish I'd just been surprised, because the 312 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,839 idea like knowing it started making me feel scared, right like, 313 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 this is a big enough deal that he had to 314 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,279 tell me about it, and now my reaction is going 315 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,799 to be He's going to be hyper aware of what 316 00:17:51,839 --> 00:17:54,480 my reaction is going to be. Yeah, so now I'm 317 00:17:54,519 --> 00:17:57,480 self conscious. Right, it was really small? 318 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:02,079 Speaker 2: Yeah? Was it smaller than expected? 319 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,599 Speaker 1: Well? I was just so nervous about the whole thing. 320 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,000 I was already kind of not into it because now 321 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:12,839 I'm all prepared for it made it so serious, you know, 322 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,319 I don't think I genuinely don't think I would have 323 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,000 cared that much had it not been presented to me 324 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:22,359 as such a big deal. And then I felt pressured 325 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:26,519 about it. And then I didn't really like the guy anyway. 326 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:29,000 And it was not because of his penis, but he 327 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,720 thinks it is, of course. Yeah, for sure, I was 328 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:40,000 looking into like penis enlargement technology. Huh. 329 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,559 Speaker 2: I wonder if he did it? Can we get him 330 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:43,839 on the phone. 331 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you his name? 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And so 354 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,160 a week ago today, Lynette and I were recording and 355 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,559 she said that that morning her dog couldn't walk, he 356 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:29,440 couldn't put any pressure on his back legs. And so 357 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:32,119 when she got home that day, I guess he still 358 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,799 couldn't walk. So she took him to the vet and 359 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:41,279 it was kind of an emergency situation, and he was 360 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,279 running a fever and he had to have this emergency surgery. 361 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:49,839 So he had the surgery, and he still can't quite 362 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:52,000 feel his back legs, so it's kind of a wait 363 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:57,839 and see situation. But he was running a fever this morning. 364 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:01,880 And then also at the same time, while Lynette's freaking 365 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,920 out about this, she starts running a fever. She didn't 366 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,759 get it from from Phil, but she started running a fever. 367 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,359 She's sick. So today she texts me and she says, uh, 368 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,519 I have a really bad cough. Okay, well that's going 369 00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:22,880 to require a lot of editing. So she started, she wented. 370 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,680 She did a telehealth thing yesterday and she got anti biotics, 371 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,799 so she'll be she'll be feeling better by next week. 372 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,240 But that's what's going on with Lynette. But I was 373 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:35,440 so thrilled that you could do the podcast today. It's 374 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,880 already been Yeah, me too. 375 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,559 Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. I'm thinking good thoughts for 376 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,039 Lynette and her puppy. 377 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,039 Speaker 1: How old is he he's ten? Oh, I know he's 378 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:51,640 a big lab. He's a big uh, like one hundred 379 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,240 pounds lab. 380 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,559 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm probably the super active and stuff. 381 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now you have two dogs that I think 382 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:01,200 you just had to escort out of the room. 383 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just had to drag them out of the 384 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,519 room because they were wrestling behind me. But one of 385 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,000 them is border Collie, and I worry about her because 386 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,680 she's going to be eight and she still like jumps 387 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,119 straight up in the air to like snatch a frisbee 388 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,079 and like twist, and I'm so worried about her hips 389 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,319 and her spine because she's like a wild lady. 390 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: So tell everybody the story, since we're dog storying it 391 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,400 of you getting tell them about getting both your dogs, 392 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,920 because you've told me these stories. They're good stories, and 393 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,200 they kind of and the second one reminds me a 394 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,200 little bit of Bob. 395 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a similar tale my first one, the 396 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,880 border Collie. My son really wanted a border Collie and 397 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,519 I don't know why, but he did, oh because he 398 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:56,400 met one in Montana. And then so I started looking 399 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,440 and I and I put like border Collie rescue poppy 400 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,079 or whatever into the Internet, and a picture of like 401 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,720 this perfect eight week or six week old like border 402 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,240 collie puppy popped up, and I. 403 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: Was sure it was a catfish. I was sure of. 404 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: It, but anyway, she wasn't. We got her from a 405 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,279 rescue and she was just she and her littermates have 406 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,920 been abandoned and so a rescue pulled her and we 407 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,519 got her, which was great, but you know, like the 408 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:38,799 rescue charged us eight hundred dollars for the dog, and 409 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,839 so I'm always like, did I buy a dog? I 410 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,920 feel a little bit like I bought a dog. And 411 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,640 so then the next time around, when it came to Bird, 412 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,240 our little Australian shepherd, she was actually at the shelter 413 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:01,160 that Yuki, our first one, had been pulled from, and 414 00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:05,559 she just came up across my like Border Collie rescue page. 415 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:09,599 They were like, this is a courtesy postings. This assie 416 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,079 is going to be put down tomorrow if nobody gets her. 417 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,160 And so I got her, and you know, this beautiful 418 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,400 nine month old Australian shepherd. 419 00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: But did just you have to talk Polo into it? 420 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? I had to talk him into it. I kept 421 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,960 showing him the picture, and I kept showing my son 422 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,799 the picture and being like, what do you think what 423 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,119 about this dog? And my son was like, I don't 424 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,440 want another dog. It's going to make Yuki feel bad. 425 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,759 She's gonna feel like she's replaced. And I finally just 426 00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:41,319 wore them both down and they were like, go get 427 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,640 your fucking dog, just like leave us alone, Go get 428 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,920 your dog. But the funny thing, well, I'm not funny. 429 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,359 It was actually tragic. When I pulled into the parking 430 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,799 lot at the shelter, I had Yuki with me because 431 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,680 the shelter said that I had to bring her to 432 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,200 make sure the dogs got along. And as soon as 433 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,880 I pulled into the parking lot, Yuki started freaking out, 434 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,160 like shaking and crying like she's somehow still, I guess 435 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,799 based on the smell of it, like she knew where 436 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,839 she was and she knew she had been there before. 437 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: It was so sad. It was when I brought her in. 438 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: Like they take you into the little like like meet 439 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,160 and greet room, and Yuki just hid behind a chair 440 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,559 shivering and crying. And then they brought Burden and she 441 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:32,720 was an even bigger mess. But when she saw Yuki, 442 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:36,039 she started like like wagging her little like nub of 443 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,680 a tail, her little wigglebuts started going, so they let 444 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,759 us have her. Ah yeah, yeah, she did, okay, fit 445 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,000 there was a learning fur. But now they're best friends. 446 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: I love that story. Yeah, you know you paid eight 447 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:58,079 hundred dollars, but I ended up paying basically twelve hundred dollars. Yes, 448 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,599 let me ask you this is a scam. It's probably not. 449 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,880 This just happened this morning. First of all, update on Bob. 450 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:12,200 He's doing fantastic. He sneezed just the sweetest. So but 451 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,079 I have a broken foot, as I think I announced 452 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,640 last week, so I can't walk him. I cannot walk him. 453 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,039 But what I can do is go in my backyard 454 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,599 and throw the ball with him, which she really likes. 455 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,960 So I taught him how to play ball. Penelope never 456 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,960 played ball before. I literally taught him. I showed him 457 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720 the ball, I threw it for him. He didn't have 458 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,200 any idea what I was talking about. So I went 459 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,480 over with him and I put the ball in front 460 00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:41,119 of him and I was like, this is a ball, 461 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,839 and then I threw it. I was like, go get it. 462 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,960 And then we did that a few times where he 463 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 didn't do it, and then all of a sudden he 464 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,839 caught on and now play. So now he if I 465 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,839 throw the ball, he gets really excited and he goes 466 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,839 and gets it, and then I have to go like 467 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,880 cook Boy Bob, and he takes the ball at heap 468 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,920 it back to me and he presents his mouth for 469 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,440 me to take the ball out, and then. 470 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: And he lets you take the ball. 471 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,839 Speaker 1: Yes, and I've never that, never, not one time did 472 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Penelope play with a toy or play ball. 473 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: Oh well, this is exciting news because it's a great 474 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,799 way to exercise him without having to do too much. Yeah, 475 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,720 how was his obedience class? 476 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,759 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so ridiculous. It was not good. 477 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:32,279 And this is not to say that obedience classes are 478 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:37,400 not probably great, but maybe we got a bad one. Okay, 479 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,759 But before I tell you about the obedience class, I 480 00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,359 just want to say, so, when I got Bob at 481 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,559 the shelter, they said, here's the microchip number. So you're 482 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:48,920 going to want to go to this website called like 483 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,240 twenty four something and register put in your information so 484 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,799 that they have you on file. So I go to 485 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359 the thing and then you have to you have to 486 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,519 figure out whatever. I go to that website and I 487 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:05,759 put in the microchip number and it says this dog's 488 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,400 already registered, So I'm like okay, and then it says 489 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,599 you have to call this number to transfer it or 490 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,880 to change the information. Okay, So I call the number 491 00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:20,759 guy answers. The guy gets on the phone and he's like, hey, 492 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:25,200 so so okay, yeah, no problem, I can help you. 493 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,720 I said, Now, the shelter told me that this dog 494 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:32,519 is microchipped and that they registered the microchip for me, 495 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,839 but not with my name. It's registered basically come back 496 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,640 to the shelter with whatever. But they couldn't add me 497 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,319 from somehow they couldn't add me. So he goes, yeah, 498 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880 no problem, I can do handle all that for you. 499 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,880 But you know, so do you want to sign up 500 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,480 for like by the year or like a lifetime like registration. 501 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,200 So I had to pay one hundred and nineteen dollars 502 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,720 to have him registered for life. And I was like, 503 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,200 is this a scam? Because the Pound did not say 504 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960 anything about that. They said, all you have to do 505 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000 is go on this website and put in your information 506 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,599 so that you are the registered owner. Yeah. I sit 507 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,440 to him. I go, they didn't tell me that. I 508 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440 didn't know there was a fee. And he's like, well yeah, 509 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:26,559 otherwise it just goes back to the shelter, like then 510 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,480 they're the owners, Like they didn't pay money. I said, well, 511 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,720 right here, it says that for seven dollars and fifty cents, 512 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,519 that's what you're paying for the microchip registry. And he goes, No, 513 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,319 that shelter goes through our company and it's our software. 514 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,480 It's like holding all the information. I don't know. But 515 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,720 what was I What was I going to do? He's like, 516 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,440 you couldn't. You don't have to. He goes, it'll just 517 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,359 but and then the shelter, if the shelter has record 518 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,160 of you, then they can And I was like, well, 519 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,839 I'll just pay. 520 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't remember for ever having to 521 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,200 pay that much. I don't remember ever having to pay 522 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,039 more than like twenty five bucks. But maybe maybe I'm 523 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,240 not remembering correctly. 524 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I paid to get a license. 525 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,319 Maybe I don't know. 526 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,079 Speaker 2: Like I would have no idea who the company even 527 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440 is that has microchipped my dogs. I have no idea, Like, 528 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:21,640 I'm just assuming if a dog gets out, they will 529 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,359 scan and someone will call me. Like that's how it works. 530 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Right, that was going to be my assumption, except that, 531 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,799 like I said, the shelter was very clear on you 532 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,839 need to put your information in at this company and 533 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640 then right they'll know to contact you. 534 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,079 Speaker 2: Right now having to do that. But I don't remember 535 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,519 first of all talking to a human or paying one 536 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,319 hundred and nineteen dollars. I think I got scammed, but 537 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,079 what you may have gotten scammed. 538 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,759 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out a way to not do it, though, 539 00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,519 because when I put in the microchip information, it did 540 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:01,839 come up with that company. So they're all registered to 541 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,079 a company, and it showed me this microchip comes up 542 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,920 for this, and it was the one that's in my 543 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,440 shelter paperwork. And they were giving me no other option. 544 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,519 I was like, is there a free option? And they're 545 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,359 like no, right, anyway, it doesn't really matter. 546 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,759 Speaker 2: I could be wrong because as you know, like when 547 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,480 you first get a dog, you're just hemorrhaging money. Oh yeah, 548 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,079 you know for everything, for the vet, for the obedience classes, 549 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,519 all the things. 550 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So okay, so here's how my how my class went. 551 00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:45,759 Hold on a second, Bob is eating my shoe and 552 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,880 I need John to come. John and I have a 553 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,319 little joke that goes my shoe my shoe, which is 554 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:55,880 a very old private joke having to do with like 555 00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:01,279 my brother's ex girlfriend who won said that. So now 556 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,720 anytime you try to say something about your shoe. John'll 557 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:06,640 be like, I'm sorry what, And then I have to 558 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,319 go my shoe, my shoe. 559 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. 560 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: So many stupid private jokes that like, for some reason, 561 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440 we used to make fun of the cartoon character Ziggy 562 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:26,000 a lot, and Ziggy was I want to say, Ziggy 563 00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:30,440 was kind of a like office character, and so Ziggy 564 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,759 always said organized like instead of organized. So now if 565 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,839 I say, oh, I need to organize this, John will 566 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,039 be like, you have to what. I'm sorry what? Then 567 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:40,359 I have to go organizze. 568 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,319 Speaker 2: Do you have to sometimes think twice about the right 569 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,880 way to pronounce it? Yes? 570 00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so this obedience class was so dumb, Tamra, I 571 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,680 have to I need to sign up for a place 572 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,200 like the zoom room or it goes to the park 573 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,039 or something, because this was ridiculous. Okay, So we get there. 574 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,880 It's at the pet store, right. Yeah, I don't want 575 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,799 to name Nate, I don't even want to say which 576 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:11,799 pet store, and I'm not going to name the person's 577 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,599 name because she sure meant well. But we get there 578 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,200 with Bob and also, and there'd been like a lot 579 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,519 of miscommunication because when I first got Bob and looked 580 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:25,400 into this. I was like, he can't come yet because 581 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,519 he's sick. Now he's better, And I picked a date 582 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,000 and then I continue to get texts going, Okay, are 583 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,160 you coming, and I was like, no, I'm coming on 584 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,720 such and such a date. And then anyway, get to 585 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,200 the We get to the class and there's only one 586 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,720 other person in the there's supposed to be two other dogs. 587 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,000 Because kind of part of the point was I wanted 588 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,519 Bob to have I wanted it to be kind of socializing. Yeah, 589 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,599 I feel like, if it's simple obedience training, you can 590 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,319 literally do that off YouTube. I bring your percent. You 591 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,960 don't need somebody literally teaching you how to get your 592 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,920 dog to sit or stay, or you don't. You could 593 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,319 either hire a trainer or you can look at YouTube 594 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,039 videos and teach your dog how to do it. 595 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we hired a trainer for Yuki after the Zoom 596 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,639 Room because she's a wild maniac. But then when we 597 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,400 got Bird, Yuki trained Bird, I didn't even I didn't 598 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,119 have to train that dog. Youki just showed her the 599 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,000 ropes and she's perfectly well behaved. Well. 600 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: The thing about Bob, Bob is very smart and I 601 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,480 think he needs some mental challenges, and I thought it 602 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320 would also just be a good engaging thing for his brain. 603 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,719 And he likes to learn, he loves to play, so 604 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,000 I thought this would be really good. And I thought, 605 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,039 but my main thing was being around a couple other dogs. 606 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,079 I thought that'd be good for him. So anyway, we 607 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,519 get there, it's just sort of looks like it's just 608 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,760 like a room, and then there's some chairs and then 609 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,280 the girl was very young who was our dog trainer. 610 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,199 Let me put it this way, she didn't really have 611 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,159 the riz that I feel like it takes to be 612 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:05,719 a dog. 613 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: Driner right right to the alpha in the group. 614 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,039 Speaker 1: She was so not an alpha. She was very sweet. 615 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,599 She was like, Hi, oh, who's this? You know. We're like, 616 00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:19,559 this is Bob and she's like, oh my goodness, well 617 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:23,280 aren't you sweet? And then I'm like, this is not 618 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,079 what I've seen on any TV shows about doctor. 619 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,519 Speaker 2: The Milan does not see their milan energy. 620 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: No. I was like, Bob is not going to listen 621 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,559 to this lady. But whatever. So then the other people 622 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,280 come in with their dog, and right away their dog 623 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:45,559 is seems is really barking. Is not the roll to 624 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:48,800 see another dog. So she's like, Okay, I'm going to 625 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480 put up this like divider. So she puts up this 626 00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:55,199 divider in the middle of the room, which totally I 627 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,559 get it, but I'm like and then she says, okay, 628 00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,320 so there's to be one more dog, but I don't 629 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 think they're gonna make it today. So I'm like, okay, 630 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,360 so it's just us in this asshole. Like. So then 631 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,320 this couple, they seem nice enough, but they were like, 632 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,119 so our dog, they had a lot going on. They 633 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,199 were like, our dog just got her nails trimmed, and 634 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,800 now she's been limping since her nails got trimmed. But also, 635 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,840 we just got back from out of town, and we 636 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,599 think our dog is like mad, she's not behaving well. 637 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,039 So let's call let's call let's call this dog trainer, 638 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:40,920 let's call her Flower. So Flower is just like, oh no, 639 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,519 why do you have such a bad attitude? This is 640 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,920 how she's talking to the dog. What kind of dog 641 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,679 was this other dog? Like a small shepherd type dog. Okay, 642 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,599 So she's like, oh no, what you have an attitude? 643 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239 How come you're acting like this? How come you're acting 644 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,960 so like? Uh, how come you're acting so so like 645 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239 giving me so much attitude, you liked me last week, 646 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:14,840 little flower. And meanwhile, okay, this is what she's taught 647 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,280 us so far. She's like okay, oh well, first of all, 648 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,320 we get to a long intake of just like, so, 649 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,840 what do you guys want to learn and we're like, oh, 650 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,280 come on. So we're like, I don't know, just so 651 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,400 like obedience training, just like she goes, okay, have you 652 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,840 already taught him how to sit? And we're like, well, 653 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,800 we didn't really teach him, but he does he will sit. 654 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,039 You know. Okay, what do you want to mainly what 655 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,079 would you like to learn? And we're like, well, you 656 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:45,559 know what we want to learn recall because I think 657 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,599 that's really important because I'm scared if he gets off 658 00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,920 the leash or whatever. Want him to come. Oh yeah, 659 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,440 that's really important. That's so important. That's good. That's good 660 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,320 that you guys want to learn that. Like okay, she's like, okay, 661 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,800 so here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna we got 662 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960 treats and we're gonna have Bob sit and then she 663 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:12,519 goes it no, yeah, and then she's like, and here's 664 00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,519 what you do. You take the treat and you put 665 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,519 it like you put you put it on top of 666 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,800 their nose so that their head goes back so that 667 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,960 they sit. Okay, that's fine. But then she's like, and 668 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320 then you're gonna take a step back and you're gonna 669 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,800 say stay, and then you're gonna if he stays, then 670 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,119 you're gonna go back to come over to him. Sorry, 671 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,519 that's him shaking his color, and you're gonna give him 672 00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,719 the treat. And you're gonna say, give him the treat. Okay. 673 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,079 That's literally all we learned. It's an hour long class. 674 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she sounds like she's just making it up 675 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,400 as she goes along. My god, she does not feel qualified. 676 00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,519 Speaker 1: No, so we practiced that, you know, and then she 677 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,440 went off to go deal with the dog with the 678 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,480 attitude who was mad at its owners and was there 679 00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,880 for so long like just kept and oh my, you 680 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,760 know what it reminded me of like when you have 681 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,280 a friend who's got a kid who's kind of misbehaving, 682 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,400 and instead of like making a boundary and going like 683 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,840 if you if you continue to behave like that, you're 684 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,760 going to have a timeout or something and then give 685 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,239 the time out, it's you know, the people that are like, 686 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,480 oh my god, Tommy, stop doing that. Can you not 687 00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,559 do that anymore? She was talking like that to the dog, 688 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,039 like she just kept going, Oh, he's really like not happy. Huh. 689 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,599 He's really mad at you guys, isn't he. He's so 690 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,039 mad at you guys. I'm sure they were as frustrated 691 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,559 me as we were the other couple, because they were like, yeah, 692 00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:47,079 but what do we do, right, And she's like, yeah, hmm, 693 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:51,519 he's just really not acting well, he's not really listening, 694 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,400 is he. I was getting so mad. Yeah. John was 695 00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:59,239 kept practicing our you know, sit and day too. John 696 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,719 was he was practicing sit and stay over and over. 697 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,199 But at a certain point, I'm like, Bob started losing focus, 698 00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:09,960 which you're only really supposed to work on training with 699 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,119 a dog for like ten minutes at a time. They're 700 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,719 not meant to be like spend forty five minutes. It's 701 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,599 not calculus, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And if 702 00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:23,159 it was calculus, they're not gonna they can't. They can't 703 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,519 take that. They need something they need to like. So 704 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:28,599 then I started getting like should we just go because 705 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,480 she was not even talking to us on the other 706 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,119 side of the room, and john'said we should just wait 707 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,559 till she kind of comes back over. I was like, well, 708 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:41,400 I don't know what else. So finally I say, should 709 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,719 we just go? And I'm not being mean or anything. 710 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,920 She goes, yeah, I mean, well, we don't really want 711 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,320 to overwhelm Bob, like you know, and I go, yeah, yeah, 712 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,800 I know, so we can't keep like he's starting to 713 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,960 lose focus, he's not really listening anymore. And she's like, yeah, 714 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,119 I mean you do have like another five minutes, but 715 00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,039 I mean you don't want to try to overwhelm them 716 00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,199 with too many skills. 717 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: No, because she learned a single skill. 718 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,559 Speaker 1: This girl was probably i'm gonna say nineteen like twenty 719 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,840 uh huh. 720 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,159 Speaker 2: So she had neuro training for the dollar and there's this. 721 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,039 Speaker 1: Is a major pet store chain, Like I'm like, is 722 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,920 there no no one overseeing? Like their their trainer. They 723 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,000 offer classes through. It was weird. So then I came 724 00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,440 home and I'm like, we have five more of these classes, 725 00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:40,440 but I don't know if I really want bah. I mean, 726 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,119 I mean, I shall you get your money back? I 727 00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,440 should ask? Huh you should ask. 728 00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't know about these these pet store trainers. I 729 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,320 can tell you that my mother has the most poorly 730 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,960 behaved dogs I've ever met, and this is consistent throughout 731 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:03,639 my lifetime. And she was thrilled because the trainer that 732 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,079 she met at a pet store agreed to be her 733 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:10,239 private trainer. And all that training consists of is like 734 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,800 squirting the dog in the face with like a bottle 735 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,599 of water. And so now if you go to my 736 00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:20,039 mom's house, it's like mark and like squirting the dog 737 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,400 and bark, bark, bark and squirting the dog and so 738 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,039 the dogs are soaking wet but still barking. 739 00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:26,519 Speaker 1: Wow. 740 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not great. It's not great. So that 741 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,719 was That's been my takeaway from like getting your dog 742 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880 trained at a pet store. I don't think you're getting 743 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,119 like like the quality you're wanting. 744 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:45,159 Speaker 1: Right. Well, she was very she was only into positive. Oh, 745 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,880 but we were asking our questions like, okay, so what 746 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,320 do we do. We're worried about leaving Bob home alone 747 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,079 in the house because we're scared because he is very 748 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,679 much into eating paper. He would like he will eat 749 00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,599 papers that are loose that he can find, and he 750 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,559 likes to go in the trash. And she's like, well, 751 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:11,400 one thing that is good is distraction method. I's like, okay, 752 00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:14,559 so what does that entail? And then she tells us 753 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,880 but it's so like she's like, dogs have really bad fomo. 754 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,119 So if your dog is in the trash, what you 755 00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,280 do is you go like, oh my gosh, I'm doing 756 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,800 a really fun thing over here, and then your dog 757 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,119 will look up and come over to what you're doing, 758 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,039 and then you give them a treat. And I was like, 759 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,400 We're like, okay, so you just. 760 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: Have to hire professional distractors to stay at your house 761 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,519 when you're not there. 762 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,119 Speaker 1: I was like, but what if we come home and 763 00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,320 we find that our dog, like, you know, shit on 764 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,920 the rug and ate all of our mail. Oh, We're 765 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840 like yeah, what then? Flower? You got an answer for that? 766 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,400 It was pretty useless. I'm like, we could ask chat you, 767 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,559 we could chat, GPT would train. Bob's so much faster 768 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,559 than Flower parblic totally. 769 00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:02,519 Speaker 2: You gotta get out from under that Flower. 770 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: You know what? 771 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,679 Speaker 2: You could take him to do two once, like he's 772 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:11,960 got his basic commands. I took Yuki to agility training. 773 00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,599 I want to do her by your house. There's the 774 00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:18,159 park by your house, and there's a woman that does 775 00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:19,119 agility training. 776 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: There and it was great. 777 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was once or twice a week, 778 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,840 but she would like set up with all of the 779 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,920 obstacle courses and the slides and the tunnels and it 780 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,280 was super super fun. I was like, such a good 781 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239 way to get their brains engaged, to tire them out. 782 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: I used to see that. I think she does it 783 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,320 on I forgot what day of the week, but I 784 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,880 used to see her set up all the time. 785 00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ask her next time she's set up. 786 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,159 I can't remember how I found her. It was like 787 00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,920 down some rabbit hole on the internet that I managed 788 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,599 to find her. But just go talk to her. She's 789 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:56,039 a bad ass's she's no flower, She's an oak tree. 790 00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm really excited to do stuff like that 791 00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:03,000 with Bob though, because I feel like Penelope was already 792 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,920 old when we got her and just not interested in 793 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,239 stuff like that. She just didn't care. But Bob seems 794 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,719 like he would be so down for like classes, and 795 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,599 he's just he's just super mellow with other dogs. And 796 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,119 that's today he barked for the first time he did. Yeah, 797 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,960 it was really cute. I mean, listen, I will it 798 00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,679 be great all the time. No, but he'd been scared 799 00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,760 to bark. He hadn't barked. One time somebody came to 800 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,400 the door like a salesperson and he started barking, like 801 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,519 like this is my house. 802 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh good for Bob. It's always like like with bird, 803 00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:44,199 I was like, I don't think this dog barks. That's amazing. 804 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,360 Now that bitch will not shut up. It's a careful 805 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,719 what you wish for situation. 806 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:56,679 Speaker 1: All right, Listen, Tamra, you have an amazing jewelry business. 807 00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,800 Thank you. It is on Etsy. Tell everybody to find it. 808 00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:02,400 What you got. 809 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, the name of my business is Gray by Tamra Mellow, 810 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,320 So you can find me at Gray by tamramellow dot 811 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,079 com or you can find me on my Instagram which 812 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,199 is Tamramello. And yeah, like I work mostly in bronze 813 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,440 on some silver and some copper, and I make custom pieces. 814 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,679 So if there's something that you know, if you go 815 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,480 to my shop and you're like, oh I want this 816 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,280 one thing but I don't see it, just reach out 817 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,880 to me. I can probably make it for you. 818 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: And also you make those fabulous the necklace with the 819 00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,599 guitar pick. Can you personalize the guitar picks because one 820 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,519 thing I realized I was just on your site earlier 821 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,880 and the X. I thought that X was for Xander. 822 00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:51,159 But it's for ten for a ten year anniversary gift. Yeah, 823 00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:51,519 it's so. 824 00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,599 Speaker 2: Ten is the ten year anniversary. So that's why it's 825 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,960 it's on a tin pick. But when you were looking 826 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,880 for a gift for Xander, like, oh my god, I 827 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,440 could just make him this, So yes, they can be personalized. 828 00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,360 I make everything from scratch, so you can have whatever 829 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,440 you want on a guitar pit. 830 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: I love it, and my son loves that necklace. He 831 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,599 wears it to almost all his gigs, so that those 832 00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:18,239 are fabulous presents if anybody is looking for something, especially 833 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,280 for a guy, because guys need to be hard to 834 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:20,679 shop for. 835 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,639 Speaker 2: They're really hard to shop for, and so that necklace, 836 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,840 I mean, I also just sell it as a guitar pick, 837 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,079 and it comes like in a little leather case or 838 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,360 I do a keychain out of it, because not all 839 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,920 guys like to wear jewelry. But like, if you have 840 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,039 like someone in your life who's a guitar player, I 841 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,679 put it in this little leather case that has a 842 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,239 keychain on it, so they can just carry a pick 843 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,559 around with them in case they need one. I love that, Yeah. 844 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, well, please check out Tamar's business 845 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,599 and she is going to do our Patreon that'll be 846 00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:56,840 up tomorrow and then you're gonna come back and do 847 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,599 the Friday show. But don't you guys, don't worry about 848 00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:01,719 that right now. Now we've got so many more stories 849 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,280 for that. But let's say hi to our friends. We 850 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,039 got Dick Frolicker and Nikki call your Girl, and Elizabeth 851 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:11,159 Williamson's got so many kids, and Rita is rocking them 852 00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,920 in her bassiet and Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie 853 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,639 hits out of the park, Katerina check your Mueller, and 854 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,360 Gabby and Missy those girls are up to no good e. Sean, 855 00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:27,519 you're so hot, Rebecca. Kelly Brandt is not your aunt, 856 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,800 but she'll take you down to planned parenthood. Alicia Escalante 857 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,000 from the City of Amante leslie with the coffing like 858 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,519 like Lynette, Aaron's a dirty Sanchez, Sandra, it's not easy 859 00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:41,199 being green. Stephanie's a stinker rinker, Christa gets a strap, 860 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,960 and Kelsey is between two ferns. Also, Adam Lerner Adam's 861 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,079 Got a Car dot com is his website. He got 862 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,119 me my car, he got Lynnette her car, he got 863 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,840 Julie case and her daughter's car. He just gets everybody cars. 864 00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,239 It's very trustworthy and he will help you out. Jacob 865 00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:03,920 Rowley is giving his shout out for the ACLU or 866 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,159 unless you can think of a of another charity camera 867 00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:08,199 that we want me. 868 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I give all my 869 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,480 money to the ACLU, like there at top of my parenthood. 870 00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:15,719 It's another good one, gets it. Yes. 871 00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: Also, if you want to travel somewhere and you want 872 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,480 to use Christine Black, She's with Waves and Wonder travel. Uh. 873 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,719 Maren has A has a spakery and gift shop on 874 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,559 the island of Kawhi called Sugar Skull and you can 875 00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:35,239 check out their Instagram page at sugar Skull eight oh eight. Also, 876 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,559 if you want to shop for some cool T shirts, 877 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,920 you know, fuck the Patriarchy, whatever you want, go to 878 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:44,559 just basic Becky dot com and use our code fcol 879 00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:47,800 to get a little discount. Listen to the Family Skeptical. 880 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,360 That's a podcast about raising kids without religion. Uh, don't 881 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,920 sleep on Wilma and Frieda. If you're out in Palm 882 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,000 Springs or Palm Desert. Go to medium dot com and 883 00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:03,639 check out at Unbecoming Stories for some really cool stories, 884 00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,760 and go to uh. While you're on Etsy, go to 885 00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:15,079 Custom Everyday Shop and they will create really cool like 886 00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:22,480 little home goods for baby showers or like custom tumblers keepsakes. Yeah, 887 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,920 Custom Everyday Shop at Etsy, and I'm gonna just do 888 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,199 one more. That's our friend, Kayleie Pettis. She's a licensed 889 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,360 marriage and family therapist out of Seattle, but she can 890 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,800 see clients all across Washington State and her website is 891 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,519 Emeraldbloomtherapy dot com. All right, thanks everybody. You're a parent, now, 892 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,800 do not it up. It's good letting