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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mix in some vodka. Color a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots Gee Brahm. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling

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a friend, Tell your friends. This is where we're talking

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about stuff. Stuff. That's right. There was a big change

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in Rochester radio. I have gotten numerous calls and numerous questions,

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and people want me to talk about behind the scenes,

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what really happened, And I'll tell you. I'll give it

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to you as straight as I can from my opinion,

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of course, and remember that's going to be my opinion.

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But one of the big changes is that Brother Wes

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announced that he was retiring. Now, when a guy like

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Weez retires, it's normally they have a parade or a year. Yeah,

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I'm retiring any year, you got it. You got it.

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The soldiers here. But I thought it would be fun

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to kind of just talk about and talk to people

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who had spent significant time with Brother Weez, and one

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of those people is rich the Bolgenzler, who was a

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part of Weis's show in the early nineties, right bowl,

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and then you went to Afternoons in like ninety four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that I'm too old to remember my

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chronology in my timeline, and my resume is not updated,

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so it should be. But yeah, no, I started in

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like eighty nine and worked with we'z probably for three

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or four years through Winton Road. So I was Wee'z's

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producer for a while before I started doing Afternoons with

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BJ And Yeah, I mean, Weez was. It's odd because

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I wanted to be more of an air quote DJ,

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and I kind of became that, and then it became

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more of a personality as my career evolved, right, So

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like Heino was like my guy, Like Caina was like

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my DJ mentor right right, And then I got in

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with Weez, who was you know, even that early in

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his career, he was.

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Speaker 1: Already pretty legendary.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was setting the mark, you know, five

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six years into the business and only maybe you know

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that amount of time into doing mornings. He was set

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in the tone everybody was following. No one could compete

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with him. I mean it was pretty ridiculous. So why

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not you know, attached my horse to that, or my Yeah,

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I attached my horse to that and then or my cart

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to that. And then you know, I was that guy

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and you were probably that too when you were interning

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that you did whatever was asked, like you were there

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all day, every day. It didn't matter how many credits

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you were getting or how many hours you were supposed

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to put in. You were there a this is what

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you wanted to do and be because you wanted to

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learn and see.

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Speaker 1: It was really freaking fun. It was. It was fun.

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And I yeah, I mean I I got in doing weekend.

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It's my senior year at Fisher, so that's how I

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got in there. And I was I had I had

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been on the radio in my hometown and stuff, but

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I had heard of weez because the morning guy there

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just worshiped him, thought he was the greatest thing. And

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I just to interject for a second, Dave Kine posted

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a thing on Facebook yesterday that I thought really summed

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up Weeze, maybe better than anybody has. It says you

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were the unlikeliest and most uncommon and unconventional radio personality

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in Western New York and elsewhere. You've enjoyed unprecedented and

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unparalleled success. Your legacy includes unmatched and unbelievable run of

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consistent rating success that continued for years. Whether it was

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The Brother Weeze Morning Circus, Radio Free Wiez, or The

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Wei Show, your broadcasts were uncompromising, unbridled, unpredictable, and uncensored.

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Your charitable efforts and your unwaving support and promotion of

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Rochester will never go unrecognized. And now it's time to unplug.

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I thought, but I mean I thought that unconventional. I

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mean he was uncommon and unconventional. You did not hear

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guys like Weez on the radio.

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Speaker 3: No, you didn't hear guys like him with his voice.

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I mean, he was just not Yeah, he was just

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not a radio guy at all. He just talked. He

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was the epitome of talk radio. He was what talk

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radio sort of became, right, I mean absolutely, talk radio

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was primarily news talk until you know, you started event

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well obviously Stern was in the mix, right, but you know,

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there were only a handful of people doing that kind

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of radio, and he really kind of sort of set

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the tone for what was sort of, in my opinion,

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the heyday of radio for about I don't know twenty

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years ish until corporate America got involved and ruined it.

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But yeah, I mean he he did it out of

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his own He did it his own way, He did

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his own things, He did his own way.

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Speaker 1: To unbridled is a great term for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because as his produce, like, it was great being

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a air quote personality, sports guy or whatever you wanted

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to be to me, to be the kid that you

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beat up, it didn't matter whatever.

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Speaker 1: That was great, But producing him was tough.

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Speaker 3: Producing him was really tough because you know, you thought

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along the way, having spent some time with him, that

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you kind of knew his flow and what he liked

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and didn't and what might fit in not And in

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doing that, you know you and having that knowledge, you

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would be like, well, I think this would be great here,

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this would be a great interview here, this would.

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Speaker 1: Be a great bit.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. And numerous times he's like, raw.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? What? What? Why? Why do

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we said that? Who is this? But good? Good, good good?

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Speaker 3: You know, like all that and the other thing too

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with we'ves, which was pretty famous for him and for

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a lot of the best people media. They literally just

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literally I'll call it this set but the studio walk

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in and go right. I mean he was, he was,

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and somebody else posted this recently. He was a storyteller,

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end of story.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was a storyteller.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And the stories that he had to tell were

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absolutely remarkable.

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Speaker 1: And the times that he lived in were so.

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Speaker 3: Applicable to the times he broadcasting, if that makes sense.

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So yes, he shared similar memories to so many of

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his listeners. And then I think he also, you know,

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day to day, every day was every day was different,

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going back to you know, you're taught in radio, especially

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nowadays when you have that kind of a show. Dad

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would called benchmark bits right where you're doing something every

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single day at the same time, right because your listeners

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are expecting it. But if I took one thing away

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from Wee's, it was no do that, like do something

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worked with, HIM i really did. Not we didn't share a,

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brain but we thought very. Similarly yeah you know WHAT i.

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just sort of the THE i don't, KNOW i don't

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know what that, was but we we, did and then

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there were times WHERE i could clean it. Up But

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we's had it in his contract that If Stan maine

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ever left the radio, station he would become THE uh operations.

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Manager mark he became the operations. Manager AND i used

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to have to go to the meetings because it Was

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wee's and there and they. Go THE gm at the,

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time who has passed, Away Al Casaza al came to

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me and, SAID i need you to come into these meetings,

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well and you, know we'll represent the show a little

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bit more Because we's would come in. Right let me

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tell you about the mother fuck you, know all that

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stuff AND. Uh later this, Week i'm gonna HAVE bj shay.

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radio perspective as a, whole BECAUSE bj certainly HAS uh

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more radio stations and high profile and bigger cities you

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know around. Him but give me some stories from your,

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day BECAUSE i do REMEMBER i remember that time when

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you were there and it was On Winton. Road you

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guys were in the phone screening room a lot AND

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i put on so much, weight like after, college BECAUSE

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i Did BoA's. Bagels it was every day was bagels and.

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Speaker 2: Cream cheese lunches in AND i, FUCK i just ate

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Speaker 1: You, were you, know AND i. Ate AND i remember

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going home and, uh somebody saying to me in a

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very polite, way you, know, hey you're looking rather. PROSPEROUS

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i think it was the term you're looking, prosperous which

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means fat in a.

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Speaker 2: Way that right say fuck.

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Speaker 1: You you, know but you HAD i mean you were there

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for some of the. Core, HEY i.

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Speaker 2: Was there the, HEYDAY i. Believe, YEAH i was. There,

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YEAH i was there During Howard. Stern HOW i was

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there during The Howard stern. Era, Yes so every day

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was different every day and you couldn't walk in there

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and you forget to. Mention and this is something to

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be proud, of especially you being a. Producer there were no. Writers,

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no there were no. Writers all these shows that you listened,

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to and that Includes rover and. Stuff you have three

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to six. Writers stern has six has six, writers you

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know WHAT i?

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Speaker 1: Mean he. Does this is all, true by the, way

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listen how he'll, Mention, oh so and so she's a

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writer for the, show, Right and it's funny because you're absolutely.

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Right there were no. Writers it was just organic. Stuff

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AND i don't know If rover has. THEM i, know

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LIKE i know there are sixteen people behind the scenes

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for The Seacrest. Show holy, shit, yeah because there's so

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many people that need to chop it up because they

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run into. Middays in some markets they do this so

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they repackage it. All but he has sixteen, people AND

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i think two of them are. Writers. Wow, yeah that's.

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Crazy and he makes seventy, million does make seventy, million you?

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Speaker 2: Know and he you, know and and then he has

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to Do wheel Of fortune And American. Idol, yeah they

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freaking guy hus, says so much fucking money he.

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Speaker 1: Does but, UH i but you're right that there was no.

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Speaker 2: Writers it was it was you would walk in and

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he'd Have we'd have an agenda. Farm there'd be an agenda,

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farm cut out stuff from, Newspaper Cindy wood and stuff like.

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Speaker 1: That he wouldn't.

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just be what was going, on who was who, called

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or what the guests were and stuff like. That some

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of the worst guests were the best. Guests what do you, Mean,

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Well i'll never forget When Scott Van duson produced the.

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no that was still.

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Speaker 2: When, okay, yeah because they because they wanted me to

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produce the, show AND i said, No, OKAY i said,

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to produce the? SHOW i go like, THIS i, go

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you will KILL i, go you will beat me?

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Speaker 2: Producer, no, no, no, no he, goes you got. This

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you got to say absolutely. Not AND i knew THAT

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go into sales or our marketing. JOB i KNEW i

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wasn't going to stay in the radio in the radio

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during wonderful for. WEEKS i don't Think i've ever seen

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somebody JUST i, mean she just went through hell for that,

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guy because we used to make so much fucking fun

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through radiation and they basically had to zap his face every.

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In New york and he went down. There he lived

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In New York city and he broadcasts from there as

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much as he physically was able to, do and we

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would do the rest of the. Show and there was

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one day where he gets and he, GOES i JUST

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i just want to give. UP i don't want To

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and then somebody called in AND i don't know who it,

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was was someone that was like. ALWAYS i think it

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might have Been Mary. Flood does that name SOUND i

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think it Was Mary flood who calls up and, Goes, weeze,

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honey if you don't want to do, it you, know give,

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up blah, blah all of a, sudden man out of.

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Nowhere that's. Right. Yeah So, sammy the kids are so

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like they're still In rochester And, sammy who's now a,

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lawyer he was just a little. Guy so, uh weeze.

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Goes mary calls. Up she gets on the air AND

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i REMEMBER i remember sitting, there LIKE i was sitting

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behind his desk in his in his studio and he's

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talking about. This she, says you, know we's if you

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want to just give, up it's. Okay we all love.

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You it's really really hard fucking dor. REED i, remember she's,

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YEAH i, remember don't you ever blah blah blah blah.

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Blah then all of a, Sudden, sammy somehow somebody Gets

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sammy to. Call he's just a little. Boy it Gets

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sammy to call and he's, like, uh, daddy don't give,

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up don't you? Know on the on the, air and

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it was like one of Them i'm telling you when

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you talk about things that this he. Was so he

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was REALITY tv on the, radio, right he was more

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that you who else was doing? That? Right it was

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just natural and real and all. That BUT I, God

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i'll never forget. That there was a time Where, sammy

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WHEN i was producing the, show got left on the

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school bus that he fell, asleep.

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Speaker 2: Which, Happens uh he fell, Asleep, yeah because you were

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a bus. Monitor, yeah and you if you if you,

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don't if you fucking if the kid's asleeping a, bus

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now you're getting your ass. Fired there's no offens butts,

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about there's no excuse you walk up and down that

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damn freaking.

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Speaker 1: Bus so, he, Uh sammy falls asleep on the. Bus

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AND i think this might be during like this school

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day BECAUSE i get a call in the middle of the,

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day they're looking For Alan levin and they can't find

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him or, whatever and It's sammy's on the BUT i

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guess the bus. Ter everyone went home to his house

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for lunch or, something And sammy opens the, door gets

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out of the bus and they can't find like it

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was all this. Stuff and this is WHERE i THINK

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i changed my whole philosophy on, kids because and it.

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Did my guys were really little THAT i don't think

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they were even in school. Yet so WE i call

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AND i think if he's At mama's on his Dy he's, like, ah,

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bro so, What he'll be, fine all, RIGHT i got. It,

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Yeah So dorian goes like she's flipping the fuck out

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everybody to the next day you hear the whole, story,

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right and he's just like and it made me. Realize

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AND i said this the other day to somebody in

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terms of like trauma for, ME i was molested as a.

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KID i, go one of the worst things is everybody

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else's reaction to. It like as a, kid, right you

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see your like you if your mother ever found out

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you were molested by a, babysitter she's probably. Crying the

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babysitter's never come. Back you hear your parents angry you

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your brain isn't big enough and you're not experienced enough

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to process that other Than i'm in trouble OR i

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caused my mom to, cry AND i don't want to

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be that. Person and it made me, realize don't make

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a big deal out of scary shit for. Kids AND

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i was like we was like, yeah AND i was like.

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Yeah and THEN i remember years, later like something happened

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at one of my kids' schools where the swat teams

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outside the door And i'm just, like it's, okay everything's going,

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fine and everybody else is flipping, out AND i really.

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SAW i think that incident sort of changed my thinking on,

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life AND i, go you, know maybe we make too

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big a. Deal like if a kid falls when my

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kids were, little and they would, fall instead of oh my,

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god are you, Okay i'd be, like it's not, buddy you're,

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do it school, Kspah i'll laugh and they'll start.

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i think the rest of the, station the ratings were

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not good. Anymore For, talk it just wasn't doing. Well

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you want to be. Somewhere but, anyway so the ratings

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it's an enormous. Company so what they do, is, hey

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we want to make a. Change, okay what are we gonna.

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Do we're going to go to music BECAUSE a it's,

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cheaper Right AND i understand when people, GO i, Mean

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stan mainsat. Here he programmed radio. Stations he's, like, man

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the oh wow, FACTOR i get all of. It it's

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programmed so, well he. GOES i don't know why anybody

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would listen to radio, now but there are people who.

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Do they're just there are there are people out there to.

465
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: Do but not many. Anymore when you can go to

466
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240
a podcast and you can listen to a podcast is

467
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,160
a stand seeing it's, like you, know.

468
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: Well he was saying music, wise he's saying like music.

469
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:42,640
Right so now they decide that they're going to do.

470
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,119
This now when did they decide they were going to do.

471
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,240
This they decided they were going to do this probably

472
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,440
four to six months, ago because there's so many layers of, this,

473
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:58,759
right and THEN i guarantee YOU i will, ABSOLUTELY i

474
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,920
will put money on the fact that they did what's

475
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,319
called a music test to find out where can we fit.

476
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,400
Rock don't forget you've got a somewhat of an alternative

477
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,640
rock station and you've got a classic rock station already.

478
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,680
Here you're looking for a lane that it's going to

479
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,880
be somewhat. Unique so they do what's called a music.

480
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,839
Test maybe somebody listening to the podcast was part of.

481
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,480
IT i don't know how they do it. Anymore it

482
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,400
used to be that they would call out and, say,

483
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,799
hey can you take be part of a music survey

484
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,960
for a radio, station and then they would say if

485
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,079
this song were, played and they would just play the,

486
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,079
hook would you listen or would you push the? Button

487
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,640
and then that's how they decided what they were. Playing

488
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000
this is going back a, Ways but that'll explain to

489
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960
you kind of what a music test. Is so in

490
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:50,559
order for that to be, done it takes. Time so

491
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:54,480
these guys knew they were making this move a long time,

492
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,440
Ago i'll say Spring. May they knew they were doing.

493
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,319
This they also knew who they were, keeping and they

494
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,759
were not keeping because some people have remained and some

495
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,920
people have remained because one of the big things in

496
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:13,039
radio today as a personality is. Endorsements what money is

497
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:19,200
tied to you as a, personality, right makes? Sense makes?

498
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,319
Speaker 2: Sense so far keep gone the goal.

499
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:24,839
Speaker 1: The goal for this if your a. Personality AND i

500
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,680
don't think they've ever talked about it like. EVER i.

501
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720
DON'T i think if you ask any personality who was

502
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:35,440
in the building With Brother weis they never talk about.

503
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,200
This but the guys in WHEN i went in to

504
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:41,000
interview IN la and and WHEN i was doing some

505
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,839
national stuff on those, meetings they would, go if you're

506
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,759
at the local level doing, stuff you want to make

507
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:53,279
sure you're bringing in three times your salary to remain.

508
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:58,599
Relevant it's basically kind of keep yourself right in. There

509
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,039
so obviously people weren't just bringing in the. Money AND

510
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,920
i said this the other. Day business is a cold.

511
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,359
Thing business has no. Emotion we. Do we have an

512
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,839
attachment to these. People we liked, them we like their,

513
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,440
stories were like listening to, them but not as much.

514
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,160
Anymore the ratings weren't as. Good they just weren't. There

515
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,039
and the big guy in town who ushered in this,

516
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,480
format AND i used to, say you, know you wouldn't

517
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,200
have an all talk station if it wasn't for Brother

518
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,319
weez who made the morning show. Work, yes you. Know

519
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,559
and then they put In kimberly And beck in the

520
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,400
afternoon and they ended up blowing themselves. Up but and

521
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,480
then they were playing music in, between and they came

522
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:44,400
To john AND i and, go how about you guys

523
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,240
going there and do a talk? Show and we did

524
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:48,519
and we got it to number, one, right that was

525
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,960
the number one Talk that was the number one show

526
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,240
in the middle of the day with adults twenty five

527
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,960
to fifty. Four and, so you, know it was working

528
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,839
then it. Wasn't and that's why this change has. Happened

529
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:05,519
we said a lot, here we. DID i hope it makes,

530
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:06,359
sense it does make.

531
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: SENSE i think it makes. SENSE i think it makes.

532
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,559
Speaker 1: Sense And i'm very nervous as to what we well

533
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,359
on the full Next but, well there's nothing.

534
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: THAT i, mean if you're, nervous you, can you know you.

535
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,759
Can you don't have to play the whole. Thing so oh,

536
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:21,960
NO i would play the whole. Thing, okay, yeah don't

537
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240
you THINK i think. SO i don't think you say anything,

538
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,720
wrong NOW i.

539
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Don't i'm not saying anything. Wrong i'm just saying what

540
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,880
happened led to? It and and, uh AND i think

541
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160
now when you look at, it IF i IF i

542
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,440
saw the lineup for the, station they're trying to protect

543
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,279
people do who did have big endorsement, money? Right? Right

544
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,039
so So john has big endorsement, money, yes behind.

545
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:43,279
Speaker 2: Him.

546
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,039
Speaker 1: Uh and so they gave him a talk show on

547
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,680
the sports station and he'll do afternoons and they can

548
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,799
keep that revenue, there, Right and and.

549
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: They put him back where he. Started, yeah you, KNOW i,

550
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:58,920
mean he's it just it's just what he.

551
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: Gets he gets do what he loves and what he's great.

552
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,519
At and then other people who just they didn't have

553
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,839
a place for are no longer, there and other people

554
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,039
are forced into places and maybe they don't want to.

555
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: BE i know, one he's my good. FRIEND i love this, Guy.

556
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:15,920
Dino do you know hates?

557
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Country? Oh what's he? DOING i heard he's in the country.

558
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Station i'm.

559
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, oh, man he used to drill on me about liking,

560
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200
country AND i know his wife loves, country so he maybe,

561
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:29,640
knows probably knows all the.

562
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Music maybe that'll be a saving you.

563
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:33,839
Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean the guy's a fucking hell of a.

564
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,920
SALESMAN i mean he did WHY i brought him. Over

565
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,799
he met pretty much SELLS i mean anything. Anything people

566
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,119
love the.

567
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Guy he's a.

568
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Staple but, YEAH i heard he's going to the country.

569
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Station, WELL i, LOOK i hope he. IS i like

570
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,480
a lot of those people. THERE i like all of.

571
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,559
THEM i, do AND i don't. Care, uh it's not my,

572
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680
world you. Know it doesn't affect, me doesn't affect, me

573
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,359
AND i JUST i feel bad for them because those

574
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,480
kind of changes are difficult to, navigate especially when you

575
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680
have no. Control and the only ADVICE i can give

576
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,319
you when you have no control is focus on what

577
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,880
you can. Control you can control how you act in the.

578
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Hallways you can control who you're bitching to and who

579
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,920
you're not bitching, to because there will be a lot of.

580
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,039
Bitching be careful who you're doing that TO. Uh and

581
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,839
you can CONTROL uh finding another job if you want,

582
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,519
to or you, know making decisions that are going to

583
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,279
be right for. You you have control of all. That

584
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,319
what you don't have control of right now is what

585
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200
they did with the radio. Station there are no feelings in.

586
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,720
Business you can't control, that so it don't focus on.

587
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,880
It this change has been, made is there? Positive try

588
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,559
to find the good aspects of where you. Are focus on,

589
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,240
those and if you want to, exit find your. Exit

590
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,039
you know What i'm, Saying AND i don't mean that

591
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:00,200
in a negative. WAY i Just i'm saying that that's

592
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,079
the only way you can do, it because otherwise you

593
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,839
will be in a bitter spiral and you'll take that

594
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,200
ship home to your family or to the people you care,

595
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,359
about and you're going to be a piece of shit

596
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,319
to them because why because why when you die when

597
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:18,119
it's all. Over, Yeah but you understand What i'm. Saying

598
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:21,400
AND i only know that Because i've lived. IT i lived.

599
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,200
It what AM i gonna? Do AM i going to

600
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:27,160
go be a fucking? Dickhead fuck? YOU i live that.

601
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000
WAY i was miserable during that time WHEN i did.

602
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,559
That it doesn't, work and it doesn't help you when

603
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,039
it doesn't make paths. Forward find your path. Forward you,

604
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:40,240
can you, can it'll just be a harder mess to

605
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,319
go that. Way stay your. Course and if you and

606
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,440
if you're a guy Like dino and you're a talented

607
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,359
sales guy and a talented on, air there's probably something

608
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,160
somewhere if you don't like where you. Are that's All i'm.

609
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Saying i'm. NOT i hope Everything i'm saying is as

610
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480
neutral as it can be BECAUSE i don'tk.

611
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: So, people you, know but people will say. Things make,

612
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,079
it you. Know one more THING i want to add

613
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,400
before YOU i, know we gotta get off football starts. Soon.

614
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:10,480
Yeah i'm always asked BECAUSE i worked at p X y. Two,

615
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,240
yeah And i'm always, Asked, oh you must have when

616
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:16,680
when you went to p X. Y i must have

617
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,720
been great working with With spizzano Over. Weez And i'm

618
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,599
gonna tell you SOMETHING i. Love scott's a friend of

619
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,119
mine before this gets, Out scott. WAS i actually found

620
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,799
it easier to work With weez THAN i.

621
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Did.

622
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,039
Speaker 2: Scott scott's a perfectionist and he and things need to

623
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,559
go his his way at all, times and that's why

624
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,359
he's been that's why he's been on the radio for forty.

625
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Years But wize was kind of like, easier you, know

626
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:43,920
you could kind of like reason with him at times

627
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,960
and stuff like. That but that was Always that's always

628
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,559
been My that's always been my answer is BECAUSE i actually,

629
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,480
THOUGHT i, MEAN i worked With we's for six. YEARS

630
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,559
i stayed at p X y for a, summer so you.

631
00:33:55,559 --> 00:34:02,759
Speaker 1: Know one More wei song to wrap it. Up, yeah

632
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,240
this is. One REMEMBER i Remember eddie From New york

633
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,280
would come in and say, Yeah Edie cano would come,

634
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,440
In oh, God billy would Sing, Ye billy could. Sing.

635
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:17,159
YES i. KNOW i Saw billy at was It we's

636
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,559
Wedding he got up and saying yes, yeah because he

637
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,079
played he was just isn't a.

638
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: Band well he helped the band, out but.

639
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: He'd go on and do a couple of.

640
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:32,679
Speaker 2: SONGS i just, think, great to my, opinion it's. Done,

641
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,280
yeah it's. Done you, know we're kind of putting it to.

642
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,800
Rest you, know it's a good thing that we all get.

643
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,360
To we all are already, gether you, know kind of

644
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,320
keeping keeping it. Going BUT i don't, KNOW i want

645
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,679
to Say, thanksuise you.

646
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,559
Speaker 1: Know, yes, yes thank, you thank. You, yeah thank you

647
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,039
for being welcoming let me be part of your. Show

648
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,679
i'm sure you feel the same way as.

649
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,039
Speaker 2: You're taking a guy that had no had no radio

650
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,480
experience and him on your.

651
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,599
Speaker 1: Show and you, know thanks For WHEN i would put

652
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:04,800
together BITS i was doing, Afternoons i'd be home with my,

653
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,800
son who's now going to turn twenty. Five, Jesus i'd

654
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920
be home with him BEFORE i took him in to

655
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:13,440
daycare BECAUSE i was going to do, afternoons AND i

656
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,119
would hear things on the We show AND i would

657
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,159
create a bit about. IT i wouldn't use my own.

658
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,360
VOICE i get somebody. Else but when When Lucky nahum

659
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,639
made A christmas Ce, day he came up to play,

660
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,039
it AND i put Together Crepital Records, present AND i

661
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,880
mean and all you heard was We ALL i did

662
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,639
was cut up sections of the. Show weez came up

663
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,199
to me at a party and just gave me a

664
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,119
big hug and kiss and Goes. Bro that was the.

665
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:42,440
Best and he was always so kind to me prior and, acknowledged,

666
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:45,239
well you were kind of his.

667
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,039
Speaker 2: Protege you were is that the right?

668
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: Word or he was? Mine he's your? Person oh, NO

669
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,960
i was his. Protege, YEAH i GUESS i think he

670
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,920
just was always kind to me and, welcoming and even

671
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400
even WHEN i Produced Show, Goes, bro it was so

672
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,079
mad at, you and THEN i realized that's what you were, Doing.

673
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,840
Brah AND i would always, say, yeah it's, okay we're all,

674
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,039
good we're all. Good uh, so, yeah thank you. Waves, yeah,

675
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,639
yeah there you. Go. Folks that's, It AND i would

676
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:13,800
love to hear what other people have to. Say you

677
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,599
can always leave messages and don't be a. Dickhead five

678
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:19,679
two o six eighty eight sixty. Six you can Email

679
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,639
Bill moran At Bill Moran productions dot, com, yeah OR

680
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:28,840
B Moran Productions Dot. Yeah that's. It that's, it all,

681
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,159
right all, right see you. Tomorrow, yeah we'll be here

682
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:32,519
tomorrow

