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Speaker 1: Rest in peace to the twenty twenty five Los Angeles Lakers.

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They finished the year having lost, but they also finished

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the year having had them with the option. So, like, say, really,

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last season wise, what we need to get into just

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sort of a synopsis of what their salary cap situation

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is gonna look like. They projected to be four million

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dollars over the luxury tax if Lebron and Dorrian Phinney

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Smith exercised their player options that would give them I mean,

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they have some expiring or just mid en contracts. Can

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you dump money onto Brooklyn or a team with an

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exception to then access the non tax payer mid level?

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Are they also in kind of the veterans take less

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to play for them territory? I don't know that this

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is the This isn't the big man that they need necessarily,

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but could they be in the brook Lopez running by

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virtue of just being the Lakers and having minutes available

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at center? Even so, would you agree that it seems

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like any material changes for this team will be coming

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via trade? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: And to just to jump on that, like they can

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trade one of their first outright and they got a

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bunch of swaps.

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Speaker 2: So they can.

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Speaker 3: It can be twenty one, twenty thirty one, or twenty

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thirty two. They could swap one of those, and then

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they also have swaps available in twenty six, twenty eight,

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and thirty, so there's they have some flexibility. Would you

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agree though, that it's gonna be hard for them to

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like or maybe impossible to like have the best offer

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for anyone that has like multiple suitors, like it will

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take like someone has to steer their way there, Viatrice.

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Speaker 1: People wondering if they can get Giannis attend to Kumbo

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people because the acre should be no less unless there's

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just something that I'm missing here. Yeah, they don't. You're right,

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they don't have the assets to win a sweepstakes. Yeah, right,

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Like you could include Dalton connect and one of those

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first round picks is the equivalent of maybe two first

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round picks, like outright, not swaps or anything. That's just

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what is that maybe if you throw Reeves on the table,

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but then you're getting into like some really new clear scenarios.

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Speaker 3: Well not only that, but I will not to jump

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ahead of things, but Reeves is extension eligible and you're

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not gonna be able to extend him because the most

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you can do is like four for eighty nine because

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his last deal was such a bargain.

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Speaker 1: Well, he, I wonder if he would just sign that

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based off how worried people are about the NBA's middle

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class getting squeezed in the new CBA. Man signs that

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you pounce, right.

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Speaker 3: You just if I'm doing backflips, if I if I'm

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the Lakers and I can keep him for that, like

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I just he but but so like it just to

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to follow through, Like if you're trading for Reeves as

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like a big piece, you know, like as a major

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part of the outgoing or your incoming package if you're

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Milwaukee whatever, it's like, well, we don't even know, like

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this guy's gonna go into free agency or at least

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it's like a it's a strong possibility, right because you

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just can't be sure he's going to settle for four

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for eighty nine, right.

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Speaker 1: And also I do think we know their biggest priority

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needs to be getting a different type of center looking there.

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The defense was very fly by night during the regular season.

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It was exposed during the playoff series against Minnesota. I

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think we know you can get into it a little

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bit like the prototypical big man that you want to

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put alongside Luca? Is that still true for you? And

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then like do any name sort of spring to mind,

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like they need to be in the market for these

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type this player.

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Speaker 2: I will answer your question.

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Speaker 3: I want I have like a threshold thing before which

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ties to the big man thing. Do you do you

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think so Luca did not look good against Minnesota. There

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are a lot of reasons for that. You know, he

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would get his numbers, he would score. Do you think

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that owes more to the lack of like a rim,

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rim running big guy, like you know, a lot of

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has been made of that, like they just the Lakers

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don't have that. Luca really thrives if he has that

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passing option like in the decision tree, as opposed to

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like either he has to try to finish, which he

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has not looked good enough to do consistently, or just

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spray it out, like do you think that just if

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it's Mark Williams, like, does that make Luca look like

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Dallas Luca?

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Speaker 2: Or is it still health.

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Speaker 3: Conditioning like that kind of thing and it won't solve

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Speaker 1: I really think it's the latter, Do you like, would

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you I don't think that Mark Williams. Did you see

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that he tweeted a smiley face after the Lakers loss.

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It was I hope people, I didn't look I hope people,

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quote tweeted with film of him playing defense for most

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of this year. I don't think like I do, think

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that's the type of big you still offensively, you still

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want alongside Luca. But like Luka, Dancic will figure out

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a way to have iconic performances when he is fully healthy.

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what part his own conditioning played in it, and then

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also just choppering into a new team. A lot of

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variables that play here. But he he looked like he

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could move by the end of the Livererwool series, and

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that matters more than oh, the Lakers don't have a

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center and they only have Jackson Hayes. I did see.

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I thought it was kind of cute that, like, people,

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how did JJ not play Jackson Hayes by the end

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of that series? And it was if that's what you're

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quibbling over, clearly he just didn't have options at his disposal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think I think so to Ancel, it's

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got to be you just have to have. I don't

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you know how good the guy even needs to be.

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It just like you know, nobody liked nobody thought Daniel

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Gafford was all that great until he ended up in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: So like Daniel Gafford.

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Speaker 3: Level, So like the twentieth or twenty fifth best starting

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center in the league, something like that would would do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Luca like reinvent or not reinvent reboot Clint

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Capella's value. He's a free agent that maybe the Lakers

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could afford.

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Speaker 2: Sure someone liked that.

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Speaker 3: I mean Lopez. I hadn't even thought of Lopez, but

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Speaker 2: Like the opposite, He's a complete opposite. But that's kind

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of fun to.

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Speaker 3: Think about, just as a guy that has to be

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guarded on the perimeter has Luca. I guess you'd say

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like Kliba was was the closest that Luca ever got

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to having like a stretch five on the floor with him.

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Speaker 2: Am I forgetting somebody? Uh in Dallas? Like you never

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really went with that look constantly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just like the but the number of

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centers who would check that box, I mean, would you

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want to be interested in Bobby Portis if you're able

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to get him as a player option. No, it's not

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really a center, would you. I just don't know how

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they go about, like how much does it cost to

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get Rob Williams from Portland? He's never healthy, so you can't.

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but you have some matching money or they do if

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they're out on that experience. Is that the does he

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check enough of like if he's healthy alongside Luca Boxes,

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are you looking for someone that has more size?

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Speaker 3: I think that the health if is like a little

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too big. But yeah, maybe it's been so long since

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Robert Williams's played consistently, I honestly don't know if he's

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like still a legit lob threat of the caliber that

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because I think my the thing I come back to

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is like, the guy doesn't have to be I don't

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know who's the best. It doesn't have to be Pete

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Anthony Davis ironically, or like or Yiannis or or you know,

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it doesn't have to be Clippers DeAndre Jordan. We don't

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need like a truly great lob threat like Luca will

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make a decent lob threat guy, a good lob threat.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm also kind of looking at like

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the big man free agents, and there's just not a

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lot of inspiring options if you're looking for an actual

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lob throw or you want to like a reunion with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's no, he's not getting off the

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floor anymore. That's yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing is, like that's not the

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only thing the Lakers need. You know that that's the

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most conspicuous one and the one that theoretically makes you know,

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helps Luca the most. But like you could use another shooter,

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you could use You just need more front court size

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in general, like you might just you just have to

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have because I don't think like Hayes's Hayes is unrestricted, right,

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Hayes is gone most likely unless you bring him back

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on a minimum and just don't intend to play him.

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Speaker 2: I just I think you need.

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Speaker 3: At least the lob threat guy to start. You probably

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need a backup five, and you probably need another four

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with some size too. So it's you know, maybe you

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get away with Hachimura, DFS and Lebron, but it's it's

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not just the big the rim running guy.

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Speaker 1: Do you you ass signed any value to Look, this

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could just be like in the fog of war type thing,

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but Lebron sort of saying he needs to think about

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his future and how much the Lakers he want to

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prioritize him. He has a player option, so the control

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the Lakers don't want him. He's a no trade clause

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and a player option, so like the powers in his heads.

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Speaker 3: Right and eligible to sign for three years and up

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to one seventy five if he doesn't pick that player

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option up, which he's basically has not done anything other

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than a two year deal for a really long time,

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Speaker 2: I think he still has.

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Speaker 3: To be a pretty big priority at least until you

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get Luca. Well, then this ties to the Luca extension eligibility.

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Speaker 2: What is it four for two twenty nine? I think

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he can sign for so like.

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Speaker 1: Does do you think Eco Harrison would offer that contract?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'd offer that one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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like the most he could have made.

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Speaker 2: They have to they get the bargain rate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree that it feels like they need

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an I could. I think you could argue that they

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need just like another wing type, because you're all your

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wing types are just starting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're really more forwardy than than like wingy.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you just get into like what do you

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you have those resources? Ideally maybe you divvy them up

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or address multiple needs in one trade. I just don't know,

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like that the assets are so modest. You're gonna point me,

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you're gonna have to get some hits on like kind

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of the minimum or exception market whatever you're working with. Yeah,

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spring to mind, Like I was thinking, does Mitchell Robinson

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make sense for this team if he expiring contract? I

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don't know what the Nicks will want for him. He

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might not be enough, like he doesn't have the hands

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and maybe he'sn't enough of a lob threat, but like defensively, yeah,

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you can still turn on the Jets there. I thought

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about Nick Claxton, like his deal doesn't look as good

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as it did like last offseason. What does it cost

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to get him out of Brooklyn?

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Speaker 3: And if he can be the best version of himself

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his he can switch a little little bit or used

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in his like pay grade? That that feels like you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that they were going to trade

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Speaker 2: Well because he did it and they thought better of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was financially like cheap, but in terms

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of asset equeen, then you're gonna have to bankroll his

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next deal, which I assume won't be in substantial but

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maybe it won't be Nick Claxton's twenty five million dollars

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a year. So that's a that's a good call out.

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Speaker 3: Just going through what do you think the most likely

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scenarios are contract wise for Luca Lebron and Reeves, Like

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in terms of the you know, the extension eligibility and

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opt outs and all that stuff, Like, how do you

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think this shakes out in each case? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron ops out, we'll not another one plus one,

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or maybe he'll sign the phone Like he's older, so

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he might just lock up the three years. And he

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now he's you know, he's less integral to the Lakers

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because of Luca than before, so he might view it

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as having less leverage. Interesting, So I think that'll happen.

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I think Luca puts pen to paper on the extension

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because this season, I'm not saying it was warranted, had

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to be some sort of reality check with the way

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things played out in Dallas. Plus look at how he

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looked towards the end of that Timberwolve series. He might

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just want to lock up like the extension now rather

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than waits that you could add the extra year and

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the extra money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing, all right.

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Speaker 3: He can sign for like he can sign a two

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plus one essentially extension and then.

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Speaker 2: Get back into free agency sooner.

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Speaker 3: So the argument would be, like he could make back

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up the one hundred plus million he can't get by

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virtue of being traded from Dallas to LA You think

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he'll go the four two twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: I think he will. I'm gonna predict that he does.

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And if he doesn't, that my may things And like

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maybe he's trying to time his for agents with Yokic's

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at that point. Who knows, So look at that, Uh,

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don' worry Phinney Smith. I kind of feel like he's

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going to opt in and extend. Do you think that's

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how this ends?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's like right around the mid level, right I

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would I wrote it down like if he's right around

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fifteen or fifteen point four.

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Speaker 1: And the mid levels fourteen point one. I assume not

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a lot of teams have flexibility, but I assume that

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he wanted to leave, there would be a multi year

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mid level exception offer on the table for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's gonna take at least that, right, So

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I don't know what you go up to for him,

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but but yeah.

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Speaker 1: You can lower his pay rate in the extension too,

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is what you like per year? So it's like, would

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he sign an extension or I guess keep him flat,

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Like a three year, forty five million dollar extension? Is

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that not enough to lock him up?

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Speaker 3: That's the question. I mean that that's a good like

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over under to set it out. Whereas if because if

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you're the Lakers, I think you're pretty darn happy if

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you got him for that right he was.

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Speaker 1: He was for the most part spectacular for them, especially

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during the regular seat Well, he just.

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Speaker 3: He mad like the you know, the older Lebron gets

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and the more I don't know if Lucas just never

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gonna be in.

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Speaker 2: Shape, like you gotta have that guy like he just

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has to guard somebody.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. Which player is most likely

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to be traded this summer.

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Speaker 2: On the whole team, No, just on just the start

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of Lebron, Luca and DFS. I'd say DFS probably It's okay.

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Speaker 1: So who do they gave Vincon expiring that trif Vanderbilt

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contract does not aged well, No, a Roally contract, which

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I slammed his age. I you know, I posted this

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on Blue Sky where said it doesn't really get talked

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about enough that Ruy went from a thirty five percent

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three point shooter in Washington who was so erratic and

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then just turned into a forty plus percent dead eye

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guy in LA and everyone's like the Lebron effect. He's

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not a good shooter, and it's just yeah, the Lebron

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has definitely helped, but also just he had players who

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actually get downhill and move on the ball and reeves

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and ad but like the form just looks I'll say,

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more fluid if it's not quicker, and he's just you

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still do not It's not like he was shooting forty

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five percent of wide open threes during his like duration

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of Washington.

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Speaker 3: Well do you remember too, like how much we hate

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I remember how much I hated his shot profile.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, he's super good at.

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Speaker 3: Like sixteen foot pull up that shoots a lot of those,

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or like the turnarounds from the baseline that are two

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point shots, Like yeah, I think I mean, he deserves

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most of the credit for changing how he plays, but

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it's also a little bit of like, oh, once he

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was on a team that was good enough to say, like, hey,

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knock it off, like shoot these shots.

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Speaker 2: Like their stakes here, and then he did it.

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Speaker 1: And there's the gravity part. But I did note because

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when people said that he shot lower on threes off

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passes from Lebron this year than he did overall. So

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I do think that there's a lot of other stuff

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that goes into it, like defenders being pulled away from

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him in general. But it's just the improvement there has

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been great for him, and I think he's someone who

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I don't know that you would say teams are tripping

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over themselves to get his contracts, But if you were

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as a like a salary matcher, well, that's actual value,

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that's the thing is.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I was like kind of trying to

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you have to someone that would have real trade value

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that the Lakers could talk themselves into affording that that well,

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we can upgrade on this somehow. Rui's like kind of

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threading that needle, right because teams like he has like

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some and he has enough like playoff like bona fides

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now to where it's like, yeah, he can guard up

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and he can make shots, and like.

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Speaker 1: That's the Jokic stopper.

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Speaker 2: That's enough. Like yeah, he's shut down Jokic. Just remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would you wouldn't want to trade him. But

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but also like, how are you enticing someone from another

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organization to trade somebody good unless Ruey's.

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Speaker 2: In the deal?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think that him and Reeves and I

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you could say the same about Dorian and Finney Smith.

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But you get it that, okay, Like we just named

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their five best players and they're all indispensable. But aside

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from Lebron and Luca, it's Ruey Dfs and Austin Reeves

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have the most standalone value. And I don't think you

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want to trade any one of those guys right now.

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So I think I would pick Kleiba and Vincent are

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both on expiring deals. They make like in that eleven

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million dollar range. Yeah, I'm gonna pick one of them,

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and I think I'll say Vincent just because you might

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hold out hope. And like if Maxi cleeb was just

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healthy and can either move on defense or his hitting

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threes or both, he would comes like kind of a

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rotation asset.

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Speaker 2: The story of Maxi Kleba since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Because Gavin shot the ball well better down the stretch.

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But it's just ultimately like you have Luca and Reeves

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and Lebron. I don't know how much his offense matters

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to you, and he plays sort of a defensive well.

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I guess you get into the well he can take

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someone like the tougher perimeter defensive assignment Tory Finny Smith's

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gonna do that anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, all right, thanks everybody for listening, for watching.

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