Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Tuesday. Welcome to Giant BombCast March seventeenth,
twenty twenty six. Happy Saint Patti's Day to those that celebrate.
If you're not wearing green, we're gonna We're gonna pinch
you your ear holes right now. Everyone, just just get
your little pincers out and just like pinch someone that's
not wearing green.
Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you, thank you free of course.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm your green hat, jan Oshoa, it's there's
some green on this didied shirt. I'm your host, jan Ohoa,
joining me as always co captain of the ship. Jeff
Grub I'm tired. I got Lego party partied out. We
got the uh Master of Ceremonies, the Master of parties,
Dan Reikert.
Speaker 2: That's me. Hello, I love to party.
Speaker 1: That's right. He also loves the party. He's the first
one there and also the first one to leave. Jeff Beckler,
that's right.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Saint Patty's Day, I am the King of
the Irish Exit. Listen, I want to thank everyone preemptively
for wishing me a happy Saint Patti's Day. With the
assumption that I am Irish. I've been a mistakenly assumed
to be Irish for about thirty five years.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I will never be able to put this rumor to death.
I am an honorary Irish person, as John Ipatch will
have christened me this morning.
Speaker 2: So thank you and so yeah Irish stuff. You congrat
right enough to be Irish?
Speaker 3: Thank you, congrat I had a sunburn and that's all
I needed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually today my last name is jan Oh what
is that apostrophe? We got the bad boy of media,
Mike Minati.
Speaker 4: I think I'm done with Wings.
Speaker 2: For a while. Oh what happened Wings? Yeah?
Speaker 4: The show, Yeah, the band and the show. Never me
and the show were tight. Well, you know, Jeff Cambell
for the Lego party party my brothers. I'll get some
food for them, and I was like, yeah, I always
do pizza and Jeff doesn't even like cheese that much
right now or it makes them sick. I was like,
all right, I get so I'll get some wings instead.
That'll be that'll be fun. I got okay, so two
buckets of wings, right, yes, I'm gonna do this. I've
got a complaint about the price. Two buckets of wings.
Well bucket is twenty wings.
Speaker 2: I was like to it.
Speaker 1: I've not done introducing everyone on the show yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear it introduced.
Speaker 4: I've been introduced.
Speaker 2: No, I forgot. We have a special sixth share today.
Speaker 1: He is the sword Saint of games media. We have
the Talking Flower from Super Mario Brothers.
Speaker 2: That's right alive in the studio. I have the Talking
Flower sitting next to me. It is miked up. So look,
he can be kind of rude. Uh. He is during
his waking hours right now, which is seven am to
ten pm, which he can just say whatever during that time.
So Sean, we might have to cut some stuff later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like the Raphael of the podcast, like the Turtles,
you know.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, there's no control over when he says stuff
what he says.
Speaker 5: He does look like he's interested in how much the
buckets cost, though, Mike, So you want to keep.
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Two buckets, which again, like let's get excited. Where did
we get the where did we get the chicken? Quicker steak?
And loub kind of a little more localis Chaine here
here's the last word loo loob gas stations trying.
Speaker 2: It's like a ail change service.
Speaker 3: The last word sounds it sounds like a change your
fucking oil.
Speaker 4: That's interesting because boy, that just existed here since I
was born, so like, I've never thought it was weird
until just it's weird that the word lube is in
the chicken name. Two buckets, would you got twenty wings
each and some presol chicken and they waved It was Grandpa,
but they waved the feast because I had to spend
so freaking much, not including the tip eighty five dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's wait, here's my hot take on that. Mic.
And I've always been this way despite loving wings, I
don't think wings are a delivery food. And I know
pizza places have been doing this for a while now.
I've never wanted I think I did it once or twice.
It was like, these don't travel well, y are not delivered.
I eat wings at the place that makes the wings.
Speaker 3: Only you gotta you gotta prep like an oven for receiving,
like I almost I almost get kids, like I take
them and put them right in the It depends on.
Speaker 5: The quality of the wing, like, yeah, you probably got bad,
low quality and traveled wings dand and that's gonna hurt it.
Speaker 2: You also need four hundred fucking napkins every time you eat,
and so you're just sometimes you're a dry guy, and
you know, I like to save my napskin. Sash I
was a look.
Speaker 4: I got an extra crispy to make sure, like the
Soggi factor wasn't I always get an extra crispy because
so many wing places through the bare minimum cook times
you have that flabby skin and it sucks.
Speaker 2: Like the wings tasted good. They tasted good.
Speaker 4: I'll give them that, but they're too expensive. And as
soon as everyone left, I did not feel great. I
don't know what it is I.
Speaker 2: Feel, you mean, like sicky poo.
Speaker 4: I feel a little SICKI poo.
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, I don't want to pry into you. Yeah,
on the drip home a little bit like, aren't aren't
you don't? Aren't you very susceptible to That's what? Yes?
Speaker 4: And I was thinking this just now, like I have
stomach issues quite often for sure, right, this is not
a crone's thing. I know the difference. It's not like
a pain or an ache. It's a nausea and I
don't really have a nausea. It's normally a pain, an ache,
a cramp. This is a dull nausea.
Speaker 5: I mean, the price of everything's gonna be going down soon,
so you don't have worry about this anymore.
Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, it's good. Is it bad that?
Speaker 1: Like me living in the Bay Area, I heard like, oh,
it's eighty five bucks for two bucks of wings.
Speaker 2: That's not bad.
Speaker 4: See, I don't I don't want to be compared to
your San Francisco prices, right, That's that's my thought there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many how many wings per bucket? Twenty? Just
twenty A lot of time, so and each bucket was
how much?
Speaker 4: I think each bucket was thirty five dollars? And then
like they got me on the pretzels too. It's just
like some pretzel sticks. Oh well, you didn't mention that
you got pretzel sticks. I did, you just he did pretzels?
What's again?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, I listen to what could a pretzel call? Right? Exactly? Yeah? Beer?
Speaker 1: Give them beer cheese. But yeah, now is this tasted good?
I'm not at the place that the charges extra for dips.
Speaker 4: And I know the sauce was included with the pretze's
because they're like, pick your sauce, and I was like, oh,
I'll take the beer.
Speaker 2: Cheese. Obviously, it was a mandatory field.
Speaker 4: I had to fill out on that thing. So like
a mandatory field, Yeah, we will not let you get
these pretzels until you have picked a sauce.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, last time I felt nauseous eating was that?
Excuse me? That nine dollar burrito I found in Chinatown
in SF.
Speaker 5: I was like, uh, well, my god, I got to
see what a nine dollars burrito in San Francisco tastes like.
It tastes like Taco Bell. It tasted exactly like Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what place you would even be
talking about getting a burrito from China.
Speaker 2: So I got a picture of it.
Speaker 5: I'll send it to you can go do some research
and see if it's even still open by the time
you get there.
Speaker 2: That's cheap, right for San Francisco. Yeah, that's cheap. That's cheap,
like here for a burrito now, Like yeah, So it
was like that, what is this thing you guys have
Cadoba in Ohio? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way when I've ever been to was in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: I think it closed. There's not a ton of them,
not a I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna kick out, just like if Taco Bell graduated high school.
It's not that impressive. I just it's like, come on, yeah,
come on, is.
Speaker 2: Like a Chotle. It's like a Chipotle, right, It's very
like liquid.
Speaker 4: That was their big differentiator was that they had like
good caso. I'm a hot heead guy though you know
you know this.
Speaker 2: Ohio, that's Ohio. I'm not going to get you know what.
We're not going to get sick from eating lobster rolls.
Speaker 1: Baby goddamn right, that's right.
Speaker 4: A large opportunity to get sick from lobster thinking. It
was both making me feel terrible and good at the
same time.
Speaker 1: No I was standing by the hoop, I felt Jeff
Becklar running towards it for the ally you because that's right, boys,
we are headed to packs East yet again. This year
we have three panels. Two will be on the show
floor where we will be playing Who Wants to Be
a Millionaire? You the folks uh in attendance. We got
some giveaways to give out. Merchmaster Mikey got some things
cooking up in the pipes to give to y'all. He'll
can win things. Maybe we'll play the Irish edition. Who knows,
We don't if you're Irish. You have to be Irish
and you have to show a passport.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll stamp it. We'll stamp it, we promise. Yeah,
can we do that? Is that? Okay? I don't know.
I doubt it. Probably not gonna stop, but I doubt
that's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and then well our third panel we
will have. That's right, Big Papa is coming back to
town because we have Vinny Caravella joining us for the
panel as well. As you know, we got some things
to announce. And the other thing we can announce to
y'all is that if you're still looking for a ticket
to Packs East and you are a premium member, head
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Or is this raffles still going on, mister Backlar.
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The clock's running out, the sand out of the hourglass,
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Speaker 1: Is Boston a big hot dog town.
Speaker 2: I don't associate it with that.
Speaker 5: It's a bad false city. So I think it kind
of has like like the faults there. But I think
I agree with Dan.
Speaker 4: That I don't seafood it sound like Chicago. I know
where a Chicago dog is.
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We are so thankful for everyone who has supported us.
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Speaker 1: And for folks that are staying on top and holding
us accountable from the last bombit on. Believe me, We've
been planning and bangs out to make sure that we're
making good on those incentives. Dan made a map yesterday.
Speaker 2: I made a map, and I think I am going
to introduce Janaitoa to the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna happen. Exciting, very exciting.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be probably.
Speaker 1: Warm though, so uh oh, I get would we like
passed by Kayla at all? Do I get to meet Kayla?
Speaker 2: Nah? South? I mean you gonna meet us? Drive? Yeah?
We never meet us in one of those cities six
and a half hours and be up here where is Kansas.
Nobody knows. You don't know anything between fucking Pennsylvania and Nevada.
I only know California. Kansas could not be more dead center. Yeah,
all right, I'm not gonna come to its defense or anything.
It's like it's a boring state.
Speaker 5: Objectively on this you want to do a lot of
those socials, Like there's this guy that like will go
to his co workers and just be like, hey, like
what country or like what city has the most Spanish speakers?
You guys want to guess city on the most Spanish.
Speaker 2: Speakers somewhere in Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna as Santa Antonio.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wow, All American City is very good.
Speaker 4: Oh he said in the world, the world, the US.
I swear to God, you said the US. I swear
he did. I thought he did.
Speaker 2: I thought he said the world. Okay, So in the world,
all right, Mexico City.
Speaker 4: Anyone else want to guess Spanish?
Speaker 5: Yes, Spanish, Madrid? Oka, I'm very good, guess it is
Mexico City. Mexico City, one of the biggest cities in
the world.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to be different.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to be clever. Yeah, I love like geography.
Even though I know shit about it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a big yeah guy. That's Google Maps.
I'm bout to do this New Orleans trip. I'm put
together whole fucking map and for everyone there, got a
whole itinerary, got the road trip thing planning out.
Speaker 4: I'm really worried now that Jeff did say the world
and we just all heard us.
Speaker 2: He said us.
Speaker 5: I think I might have said both, because I definitely
said world at one point before you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, let me ask you guys a question.
I had a realization, I think fifteen minutes before we
got on this call. I think I might have invented podcasts,
and I just want to see why by you and
see if I can take that claim. Alex Boniello sent
me several voice messages this morning, yelling at me because
I think it was on fire Escape or something could
be anywhere. Really, I was shit talking Lord of the Rings,
and he left a very yelly, angry, driving voice memo
being like, Dan, I hate this because I know you
and I know why you do this, and I know
you're trolling, and I know you also believe it about
Lord of the Rings, but it gets a rise out
of people, and that's why you keep doing it and
you lean into it. Now I shouldn't be falling for
it because I know you better and blah blah blah.
And him doing that, I realized, like him describing like
only doing because it gets rise out of people and
stuff reminds me. And like two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, I'm in the dorms freshman year of college.
Fellowship had come out recently, two towers I think maybe
just came out and I wouldn't shut the fuck up,
believe it or not about how much which I hated them,
personality whatnot. So everyone got fucking furious when I did this.
They were like so many everyone in the dorms, at
the bars, everything was so fucking mad when I would
go off at Lord of the Rings. And now I
just kept doing it more and more as a result,
to the point where at this point in my life,
I was making a TV show for a local station.
It was a sketch comedy show, so I had a
relationship with the station and I pitched them on this idea,
being like, listen, I want to do this show where
it's me, and like three of my friends were sitting
around a table with microphones and we're debating things and
not like politics, nothing serious, but it's going to be
like like my example was when I talk about how
I hate Lord of the Rings, it just turns into
this really lively thing and oh, everyone gets really involved,
and I think it would make for good content. And
they didn't see the vision and they didn't green light
the show. So I think the fucking invented podcast it
didn't get Greenland Radio.
Speaker 5: That's a talk show, like if it's on TV, right,
we like it sounds like crossfire from it also sounds like.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, that's like Bill O'Riley was
big yeah Riley yelling at people. Think it was like
about Lord of the Rings. Guys, he's right. I checked
the patent office. Sure, okay, well never mind. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also I invented the high five everyone. I was
the first to do it in nineteen eighty one or three.
Sorry it was sick and they were a fucking.
Speaker 2: This is kind of a sobering thing too, and I realized, like,
I'm doing the same fucking ship. Yeah, maybe new gimmick here, brother,
new material I get. I get a dime every time
everyone does a high five.
Speaker 5: You you did that with Dusty Baker, You and you
and him invented the high five. That's actually the guy
who invented the high five, which is a crazy thing
that I.
Speaker 2: Also have ten percent of thumbs up. And that's sick too, really.
Speaker 1: Like, do you have like a part of a shaka
at all?
Speaker 3: Did you know that's actually still very much litigation, right
or subject?
Speaker 1: I wish you wouldn't bring that up, but I was
gonna say my point of comparison was, Dan, this sounds
like the view, and the view was Did they yell
at each.
Speaker 2: Other on the view? Yes? Animated?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like it almost sounds like you're trying to
take credit for discourse, for human conversation.
Speaker 2: Can you point to a place that existed before me? Me? Right,
I can't.
Speaker 1: Theratic seminar perhaps, yeah, Socratic method, but never.
Speaker 2: Yelling about stupid stuff? Right, What was the first person
I argue about stupid stuff?
Speaker 3: You were the first one to have a dumb conversation,
so we can't take that away.
Speaker 1: From speak about dumb conversations. You know, we've had a
lot of hot dog talk, and I think about hot
dogs a lot talk talk Dan congratulations for getting on
the board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thank you for pulling so specifically for that.
Speaker 1: By the way, now we're we're I'm not trying to
forward the or push the Catholic agenda, but Wiener. You know,
we're in the Lenten season, so sometimes we'll see fast
food chains ramp up their fish products, right, fish filets.
Speaker 4: I'm not eating a fish hot dog fish dogs.
Speaker 1: Wait, just wait now, we don't have any of the
Bay Area, but apparently Wiener Schnitzel is selling the sea dog.
Speaker 4: Now is it made out of inmitation crab, because then
I might consider it.
Speaker 2: No, it's just like a horizontal fish filet. Wait, this
is a chain called Wiener Snitzel. Yes, yeah, Does anyone
on this show have one within door dash range? No,
we could do it by the end of the show.
I'm not gonna. I just took my zampie. I'm not
in the mood for anything.
Speaker 4: I remember how I said I was nauseous. I'm not
a fucking fish hot dog right now.
Speaker 1: But it's not a sausage. It's just like a fried
fish patty.
Speaker 3: But it's long, so it doesn't have like hot dog
adjacent properties.
Speaker 2: It's got tartar sauce.
Speaker 1: It's got like the saddest slice of cheese.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fished the long way fish the long Yes, Okay,
I've always felt wiener w E I is this w
I E I E? Yeah, okay, I don't think we
have them here now, Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to bring that to everyone's attention,
just because the sea dog just sounds disgusting. It's bad,
It's real bad.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. How dare you? I can't believe
you've done this.
Speaker 1: Well to make good on it. I would like to
talk about video games, because we can all agree on those, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that Prime four first. I'm sorry speaking of.
Speaker 5: There's a Wiener in the Midwest. We can go to
it on our road trip.
Speaker 1: Oh well, but the sea dog might be retired by then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have any let it over sea dogs?
Speaker 4: That was just a joke about how we agree on
games all the times, but actually on that one we didn't.
Speaker 2: I did think about that last night because I watched
Bonk Beat Residue Will Requiem, and uh just we were
talking about it, man, just the highs and loads like
or just the highs, the different highs and and different,
you know, going from all this tension to this action
that the ways does so many different things in such
a memorable way that I'm gonna remember forever. And I
do remember thinking like, well, we're talking about it, like
I am gonna remember this game so much more than
Metro Time. Absolutely weird.
Speaker 1: I saw a really fun video saying like all the
parrying and RI nine is ridiculous, and they just proceeded
to show like stupid not real examples, like you know
the scene where there's like car crashes happening where leone
is at right, Uh, someone just like stood by where
they knew one of the cars was going to be
and pressed the perry.
Speaker 2: Button to make it look like the other way.
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that anything with that stupid dan.
Did Kayla insert ARI nine into her rankings?
Speaker 2: Where did it fall?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: You know she has me.
Speaker 2: I was watching Bonk be Bonk still working on it. Yeah,
yeah it though so although no, she she stopped streaming
last time when she got to the police station, and
then she was doing a whole rant about it, like wow,
I was really liking this game until now, but now
it's reminding me of RI two. Remake the worst one,
so she's ready to hate it any of its reminding
her of ri two.
Speaker 4: Hey man, maybe make her happier.
Speaker 1: I think we can actually all agree on this game. Dan,
you've been playing Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. Yeah,
I beat it? Uh over the weekend?
Speaker 2: You beat it? Why? How it's on switch too, and
it's it's pretty good?
Speaker 5: What was the what was just like the play through
this time? Did you just do like the basic like, hey,
I'm going to go to the four big guys, make
the final boss fight as easy as possible and that
that sort of thing, or did you like maybe rush
to the to the final boss fight early?
Speaker 2: Like what'd you do? I So I actually started it
when the switch to edition came out. I remember the
round and see it, So I remember I played a
couple of Divine and stuff like that, and I just
kind of picked it up again because I'm kind of
in a lull where I don't really have a lot
I'm working on right now game wise, and I was like,
I'll just go back in and so like I was
a like Chrystian desert of course. Yeah, I was at
like fifty shrines when I beat it so enough to
get the Master Sword, and I did kind of bline
to most of the Divine Beasts, and I really thought
it was going to be not as. I didn't think
it was going to be as replayable as like virtually
every other Zelda game, because it is so expiration heavy
and discovery based. Scovery is the part of it. I mean,
it's been a long that game came out a while ago.
Now I almost tend to I don't, and I don't
remember every little thing or every little side quest, and
like there's all the like DLC stuff I had rest
around with, and the Hero's Journey shows you, like where
you spinning. Sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: The planet's spinning.
Speaker 2: Thanks you talking flower. Thanks We're not talking about that
right now, but thank you flower.
Speaker 5: The Hero's Journey thing where it shows you the path
he went on, I did that, And I'm like, I played
this game for so long, and there's like corners of
like every area that I never even went to, so
you could really play it like a new game each time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I went in a different order. I went
to Rita Village Rito Village first because I wanted to
get the Ravollis Gale because I used that so much
and everything, and I got some of the DLC stuff
where it's like you can just teleport your horse in
from anywhere and it doesn't have to be near you
or taken out of the stable or whatever. Yeah, it's
it's just tremendous. And that switched to versions awesome. You
really notice when you go to like the Lost Woods
or Cocka eco village, these places where it's like noticeably
chugged before and now it's like this just runs great. Yeah.
So yeah, I don't know, I just loved it, and
it's a much better second play than I think I
would have expected.
Speaker 4: I was just watching it play it on stream. I'm
still you know, even though I've played it myself on
switch to. Every time I see that game running at
sixty frings per second, I'm still just like, wow, that's
really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's donning have you done the DLC stuff. Like
there was this like sword trial to Motorcycle where it's
like if you beat this, you're gonna get no the
motorcycles in that firsteal'll see. I think it was the
second one to this like Trials of the Sword where
if you beat it, the Master Sword is permanently at
like sixty damage like that sounds fucking awesome. And I
started it and it's insane. It's really like that the
Ventide Island type thing where it's like you're just naked. Yeah,
it's just like, all right, here's like a few enemies
figured out, throw some rocks at him. I don't know,
kill one of them, and then you get like a
sauce or something, but grub. Actually this I would love
to watch you try this. Give this a shot. Yeah,
and don't even look up how much there is because
I just started it. And you have to at least
get to the Lost Woods and I think at the
Master Sword, so you could probably if you already have
your save, you could probably just do that. It is
the puzzles you kind of have to do where it's like, okay,
and climb this tower and if I can knock this
dude out, there's three explosive barrels I can throw down
and try to take them out that way, and I
can float down and try to like sneak attack this
one guy. You really have to consider every little thing
you're doing. Really, I did not get close to beating it.
It is a lot, a lot but it's a cool challenge. Dad.
Speaker 4: I'm really embarrassed that you said that Blanc was playing
Zee and Dine, and I somehow thought you said Kayla,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: And then you Antonio for some reason. Yeah, very weird,
and we know you have trouble naming different women when yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all the tummy twelvels. Don't worry, mikey Well,
speak about old games. Let's go even older. Mike Manatti,
if you feel well enough, please tell me more about
Spiro the Dragon.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm playing the remake, the Reignited Trilogy version of
Spiro Year of the Dragon. This is the third one.
I played the second one, the reg Night Trilogy, not
too long ago, and that was that was a really fun,
breezy time. I had also never really played any version
of Year of the Dragon, so I thought I would
just jump right into that. And yeah, everything that's great
about two is also great here. It does the thing
that a lot of the third games in these sort
of mascot platform trilogies do, where they try to try
to switch it up a little bit by having some
kind of other playable characters for just a few levels
here and there maybe some more gimmicky things like oh,
Spirro's on a skateboard now, and I actually like that
stuff for those parts, Like you know, one of the
characters is a kangaroo, so you're playing us here now
you're kind of like doing a lot of the jumping stuff,
and one person's a penguin with a rocket launcher homie thing,
so you're kind of flying around it. Like none of
them have as elaborate refined move sets as Spirro, but
playing as them a little bit here and there, I enjoyed.
That feels good. The skateboarding is a little bit jinky.
It's a bit in the toys games, but again I
kind of enjoy the break of doing that here in there.
But just yeah, playing through the Reunited trilogy, those are
just good platformers. They feel good. They also clearly are
games that would be fun to one hundred percent. I'm
probably not going to, but the idea of like, oh,
like you know, really sweeping this thing up and the
game gives you a good idea of where everything is.
You're never going to be like, where's the last gym
they get pointing in the direction of the gems, this
one de collectible or baby Dragon eggs. Right, it's like
the Mark sixty four thing, where you're in the level,
it'll kind of tell you which ones you need to get. Still,
maybe their question marks, but they're generally not that hard
to find. Yeah, boy, really good one of these. I
hope that those those rumors that maybe Toys for Bob
is just making a spyro for for Xbox are true.
I would love to see what that would look like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the amount rushmore of skateboarding video game characters
in not skate non skateboarding games island.
Speaker 1: On that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's good. That's good, Okay, No, Master Normal.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's got a weird name. It's Yeah, it's
like a sophisticated name for the beach bum looking dude
for sure, Master Higgins, Master Higgins. Yeah sounds British, right,
yeah Higgins.
Speaker 2: He could be British. I've never heard him maybe, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, super Invetroland too on Superintendo. That's a that's a gem,
right there.
Speaker 2: Sora skateboarding a video game, Mike, Yeah, no, Roxist does though.
Roxist does.
Speaker 6: Bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's good like that. I'm on your side, Mike.
Remember that Okay. I almost wanted to say the kid
from Street Stree Shoe, but he's a skater, not a skateboarder,
right right? Oh yeah? Or full roller skate. I think
it was inline that was the yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I can't say Bart Simpson because that's a gokus. Although
I think fan Nelly was talking positively about uh Bart's
Nightmare for the Supernintendo game this mornings, and like, you know,
I'm a little with them. That game is not It's
one of the games that's not good. And yet I
owned it and played it a lot of.
Speaker 2: Memories of it. Yes, you know, we all played all
the Simpsons games, like I mean, Virtual Bart I have
a lot of funness for and it's like it's just
the Tomato mini game.
Speaker 4: You know, sure, But I do think, yeah, Bart Nightmer
is better than Virtual Bart.
Speaker 2: I think. I can't tell you what about There's the
Bart Man any S game, right.
Speaker 4: There's as games, but the only one of those I
really had was barbarsus a Pace Mutants. I didn't have
the Radioactive Man one the World.
Speaker 1: Which one starts you in like a garbage dump.
Speaker 2: Don't dump? Are you thinking about Crusty's thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I remember playing a Simpsons game on
the game Gear game Oh geez, that's fed up.
Speaker 4: I feel like the only one that Actually, I think
all the ns ones might have had game gear points,
so you know what, I think it's part versus the
world that you're thinking of or the radioactive Man one.
It's gotta be one, makes sense, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I had.
Speaker 4: I had Escape Camp Deadly on the game Boy and
that game was That was like my most game Genie
used game because I needed game Genie just to make
that game.
Speaker 2: Tolerable, make it playable. Yeah, people want to put turtles
on the Mount rushmoorphs of skateboarding characters. Oh sure, yeah
sure the.
Speaker 1: Goat simulator. I think there's skateboards in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah there are. Yes, it's not bad. Yeah, we got one.
We got it.
Speaker 4: We're close than this is gonna take further deliberation on
my part.
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of barbarsus the space Mutants, I just want
to bring up how much of hero I am because
I'm supposed to start Blake Club tomorrow. Right, it's my turn.
It's my blighting around. I have my stuff, I have
the outfit. I was the dentist this morning and they
looked at my ship, and they were like, oh, we
got to replace the crown. We got to replace this crown.
We gotta get we got a fracture on this tooth,
We got a filling we gotta fuk with here. You
got a lot of stuff they gotta do to me.
And they were like, we'd recommend that you come in tomorrow.
And I declined because of my profession. Yes, I just
don't ever say I'm trying to because I had it
on a silver platter. If I wanted to back out
of my plight duty, it was right there, a legitimate thing.
I said, No, I won't.
Speaker 5: Was there any consideration that if you did do it,
we wouldn't we wouldn't believe you, like we wouldn't like
we just wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2: I knew no matter what, we're gonna be like, oh bullshit,
excuse or whatever, you know, like absolutely, I mean I
would have come in and shown you the ship I
fucking live stream the procedure, would you would? So I
turned it down, So I'm not doing it on in April.
Thanks for looking forward to its.
Speaker 1: Very speaking heroes and saving the town and saving the day.
We apparently are all saving the day as ditto, because
I believe most of us are still playing Pacopeia.
Speaker 4: Yes, losh, yeah, I'm about to wrap up my third biome.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah. So are you in the town where you
turn on the lights? Yes?
Speaker 4: The electricity town has maybe been my favorite line. Actually, yeah,
that's super fun because it's like they have very obvious
plots where houses can go. I really liked putting down
the utility poles to connect the electricity really good.
Speaker 1: So I hate the look of the electricity poles, like
top side, so I just bury them.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's clever. Oh I didn't think electric Yeah,
that's that's really fun.
Speaker 1: That's right. We have an expensive neighborhood here.
Speaker 4: Yes, I also love like like these It's it's neat
because there is that more open area that you can
go to and I did stumble upon that and it's like, hey,
there's not really much of a story here. This is
just where you can really like do everything. And even
now I'm almost feeling like, as much as I love
this campaign, it's cool how this it almost feels like
a tutorial for when you really want to sandbox the game, right,
because like, but it's a full game if you don't
want to do that, Yeah, right, exactly, Like I bet
I won't do that much of the sandboxing, but just
going through this, but it's clearly like, hey, this there
is going to teach you, you know about how electricity
works in the game. This one's gonna teach you about
mining in food. And then I feel like by the
time I go I get through this campaign, I will
have had a great time with that, but also I
will be super well equipped to just make a town
from scratch.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of love that there is a campaign, yeah,
because I mean, like Stardo had one Amal Crossing never
really did outside of like paint off your house. But like,
I do feel like there's a defined like end if
you don't want to just go nutso sandbox with it,
which I feel like I'm early still like I played
the game pretty frequently, but like I just made it
rain as a sloper early bro, slow poke, slow poke.
You just yawned real big, Yeah, so I'm still Is
that technically like the first that's the first area? Yeah, okay?
Is it like a like hey, fade to next area
level two type like delineation.
Speaker 4: There's gates that they can't access until you beat that
area and the doors and stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what they're yang gott Yeah. I think it's cool
if there's just like clear, like if you just want
to fuck around and like make a perfect house and
like here's my little garden outside and put the fences up,
like you can do that. I've had fun doing that.
But also it's like every once in a while I
talked to the big fat professor guy and like what
do I do? And he's like, dude, you gotta make it.
Make this fucker you on. Oh right, that's what I
gotta do.
Speaker 5: You're right right exactly, Like when you boot it back up,
being like all the characters will like have big speech
bubbles above them, even if they're far away, to be like,
oh yeah, I was working with that guy on that
and this person had a quest for me.
Speaker 2: Let me go refresh my memory.
Speaker 5: I don't feel lost when I boot it back up,
even it was like I've been gone for a few
days and it's been it's been busy.
Speaker 2: I haven't had time to think about this. It's really
well thought out. You know.
Speaker 5: My understanding is I didn't play those games. This very
very very similar to Dragon Quest Builders in terms of
how this works. And how it's structured and all that stuff.
We were saying about how it's nice that it has
a campaign to like get you hooked on the ideas
of the things you do in a Minecraft game. All
that stuff was there in Dragon Quest Builders, but there's
something to be said about the way that they implement
the Pokemon where it's like that really does make different.
It feels like a good hook to like keep pulling
me along.
Speaker 1: It feels like a home run linking it to the
Pokemon ip because I just sometimes like walking around or
I'm just doing busy work of like oh this there's
a patch of grass that hasn't been watered, or let
me harvest some beans, and then I just like seeing
Pokemon interact in the background or whatever. They also do
that thing that like dogs will do where you're trying to, like,
I don't know, maybe fix something or assemble some furniture,
and like the dog will just get up all in
your personal space and look like now I need to
advise what's going on here, what's happening here, and like
they're just just getting in the way.
Speaker 2: But it's cute. Yeah, I'm trying to like open up
a crate to get some like dirt piles out and
like venon NaN's just sitting on them.
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here. I'm so excited I
can ask Dan this question right now, Dan, who's your
favorite pokemon?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, I mean can't tell the difference between
squirrel and bulbosor they are? They both seem nice? Okay?
Speaker 4: Do you think maybe the blue one with the squirtle.
The other one's green and has a flower.
Speaker 2: Button like shell things? What's a flower bud? That's a
bulb bulbus sore? Okay, I can that'll help me, you know, Dan.
Speaker 1: What I'd like to do with you, though, is I
would like for you to make a tear list on
giantpom dot com.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Oh you can do that now, because you can do
that now on the website shots out the chuck of
your favorite pokemon using your.
Speaker 2: Wiki data, which is extensive, which is great for tearmakers
in there. Yeah. Yeah, I actually I think my number
one so far, and granted I have like maybe twenty
to twenty five, i'd say sure. I think I like
him on chan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, punching one, Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: You taught me how to punch things with boxing gloves.
It's very important to do that in this gave, actually
it is. Yeah, yeah, I hate. The one thing that
bugs me is there a better way around this where
it's like you'll see the shinies and sometimes you can
go up and just hit wide to like pick up
some honey or something, and then sometimes you have to
like punch into the ground, you know, and then it's
like I'm constantly making these holes in the ground, and
I like things to look nice and yet in your inventory.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, I don't love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you think I don't? Sorry real quick.
The only thing.
Speaker 4: The other thing I don't love is the dream Islands,
which feels like a daily chore, like go to the
dream Iland and collect some materials, and people are like, no,
you should you need to do that, because like maybe
you'll run across something special there if you're teasing me.
Speaker 5: But I don't like go there unless I feel like
I need something, like oh, it's like I am trying
to complete something and I'm gonna look for the dream
Island that has that resource that I can't get from
this area naturally. Although every time I've gone there, I
usually do find like an abandoned house, and I'm steal
the furniture.
Speaker 1: And that makes it easier. Like that's my favorite thing.
It's just stealing furniture. It's like, oh, this is gonna
look great.
Speaker 5: In my This is mine now because I got I
did build that big house in the Electric town. It's
like I got a lot of rooms to fill out
in there. So yeah, yeah, I'm making it look real nice.
Speaker 1: I was talking with a friend and she was telling
me like, yeah, I just spent like three hours watering grass.
Speaker 2: Yea. I saw someone suck up water and like from
the ocean and like spray it everywhere. Is that real?
I tried it because that's how that clip too. I
think it was my friend Pokemon Steve that showed that
where it's like you got into the thing, sucked it
up and he went out there and it like just
filled up a whole like huge radius. Yeah, and I
tried that. I don't know if you need like a
later I bet that's a later thing.
Speaker 1: I bet it's an upgrade to your suck. Yeah, okay,
upgrade your suck. Everyone speaking about funny animals, Chuck surprised
me with a quick look recording for horsey game. I
don't have much to say on it other than that
quick look is out. It's a big year for getting
animals to breed with mugenics and now horsey game. You
are betting on the horses. Chuck made a horse mate
with a Kia and then it made the horse go faster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then our best horse was actually a dog.
We need to check out on Chuck. Dogs are terrible horses. Well,
this way was like a faster horse because you're also
like racing them, you're.
Speaker 5: Bettingund or something. Yeah, you could settle on a greyhound
and put a kid on there that would.
Speaker 2: Look a lot like a horse. It looked like a
we ney dog.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but I assume we had don't let
the dogs race with the horses because the dogs are
slower than horses.
Speaker 1: They do at the track, they do different races for
the dogs the off Yeah, like the real the real
horses and the real dogs. But here they just let
them race.
Speaker 2: Any of your dads take you to the betting tracks,
yeah all the time. Yeah, it was right.
Speaker 4: He let me pick Yeah, they let me like pick
off horse and I would just take them base off
the name I liked and you had to put like
twenty bucks or whatever it was, and then you lose
and you beat you right, No, no, damn that part
didn't happen, Flowered.
Speaker 1: H Well, you know sometimes with gambling there's cards.
Speaker 2: I guess cards are in Slave the Spire too. I
just got real sad. I'm sorry, Mike Mandatti, you would
play Slay the Spire too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been playing a lot of Slave Despired a
lot of people apparently. Yeah, the game's fun. I mean again,
I'm a little wary of early access stuff, but this
just feels like the game and even you know, I
just want to finish a run with all five of
the characters that are in this early access thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just go to slate Flower. We got to work
the dog.
Speaker 4: But I you know, so I've done four out of five.
Now I'm on the the evoker guy who has these orbs.
He was in the first one. He wasn't my favorite
there and continues to not be my favorite. But still
fun and uh gosh, gosh, Say the Spire. That's good stuff.
That is a good loop, right, even though like the
runs are relatively long, but you know, you can save
and quit, you can come back to it. It's it's
easy enough and it's crazy because I think it does
what a good roadlike is supposed to do. Worred is
a healthy mix of your game knowledge and skill is
helping and the luck, right, like what are you getting
this run? But this game there is a lot of
making your own luck, Like, Okay, if these are literally
the cards I'm getting, if these are the cards I
have to play, let me figure out the synergies with this,
what's going to be smart here? Like, oh, I'm getting
a lot of cards that give me armors. There are
a way to turn armor into damage, stuff like that.
A lot of times there is you know, they kind
of think about these things. So yeah, it's just you know,
if you have not checked out so the Spire and
I somehow never played that first one until last year.
Speaker 2: Was it twenty nineteen, Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 4: Twenty It was part of my twenty nineteen tour.
Speaker 5: I was playing hard Stone and nothing, but for a
year he played Worldwark or he played every Blizzard game
twenty four.
Speaker 4: I think I was doing a lot of Wow Classic
or something.
Speaker 2: Classic.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Classic was great, man, that was what that
might have been when that came out. Yeah, I was
I was in molten Cores fighting ragnuros.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh.
Speaker 1: Speaking about Slay the Spire too. Upf this Friday, we're
going to be doing co ops Slay the Spire. Jeff Grubbed,
Mike Manatti, Chuck Towski, and our dear friend Bailey Myers
are gonna dive in.
Speaker 2: I was giving coould I go in completely, No, not
annoying anything.
Speaker 1: No, Bailey's gonna get so mad.
Speaker 5: I was wondering, I was not worried about these guys
yelling at me whatever. If she also, I mean, that's
gonna be bad. Yeah, maybe try a run, Okay. I
was telling her like, hey, you know, like Chuck's probably
on it, Mike's probably on it. You might have to
carry Grub Yeah definitely, Yeah, all right, I'll try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought like it would be fun to go in
there be like, have these guys teach me on a run.
That'd be because I'd be annoying, but I don't want
to annoy her.
Speaker 2: Grub.
Speaker 1: The one tip I'll give you is just to increase
the speed of the game.
Speaker 2: From the jump. Yeah, that sounds good. The other thing that.
Speaker 1: Because you're such a speed demon lately, because you've been
playing F one five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been getting into F one, which is a
weird thing. Like the cars are all different, so sometimes
one team just has better cars than the other and
they win every race, and I'm like kind of like,
what's the point of that? But then I keep watching
it because it's like, Oh, it's like a science fair
sort of thing where it's like, oh, they just are winning.
They built a better car and that's the whole idea.
But I want to race in it. And so I
was like, I want to try one of these games.
And I know that it was Code Masters, and now
EA has been making the F one games and they're
pretty well regarded, I believe. I booted it up and
it's like, yeah, I liked it with the controller, but
it did immediately make me want to get out the
wheel and a setup and do it for real. I
have the pedals and all that. It's like, I'm gonna
do all this work to sort of dial in what
these tracks feel like. And learning the tracks is is fun,
but all that muscle memory I might build up, like
playing on a controller is not going to translate over
to the wheel.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought it was. It's well done.
Speaker 5: The version I have twenty twenty five has like the
challenges almost like the WWE games, where it's like, we're
going to go take you through a story. And one
of the stories they have is the scenes from the
F one movie with Brad Pitt, and it's like, so
you're just doing some of the key races for that.
And I tried that and that was pretty neat, but
you could tell that that is just them sort of
trying to slap extra content on top to what is
basically just a game where you race. There is a
like my team mode where you can do the you know,
I don't know if you set the price of hot
dogs like you do in like college football or something
like that, but you.
Speaker 2: Definitely have to manage your team.
Speaker 5: And I'm always interested in one of those, but if
it seems so time consuming that I didn't even engage
with that. But the racing itself is well done. I
could see why people like this so much, and it's
one where it's like if I could spend some more
time with it and dedicate some time to setting up
a actual wheel and pedal situation, I would probably get quite.
Speaker 2: A lot out of it. That will right, Like is
that compatible with what you got? Yeah? It is. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I have a Lotchitech that is like pretty like it's
like not bare bones, but it's like maybe a step up.
And a lot of games just have a setting where
it's like do you have this one selected from this menu?
Speaker 2: And I could just do that for sure, Okay, lovely lovely.
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have a hankering to get
really into baseball this season, but it was either baseball
or F one this year that I thought like, oh,
I'm gonna get really into one of these. But the
new MLB this shows coming out like really soon. I
wonder if this year is just kind of another one,
which usually that's good enough, but I wonder if there's
anything special about the show this year. Uh, Jeff Backlar,
we have to give credit. We have to give credit
where credit is due, I know, because you're raising a
little influencer in the household because this UPF we checked
out and I'm gonna say, enjoyed rounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were playing and then when I was testing
out the living room set up for the Lego stream,
I was playing it with my brother. Yeah, it's just god,
it's a very good let's play game, so we can
scream at each other in just kind of game.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: It's just a lot of highs happening there, a lot
of intense moments just gosh, just very simple but fun
and like, yeah, I can see myself just picking that
up here and there for a session.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of death lot there too, right, because
it's like, once you start learning how the various things
work together, it's like, oh, if I could get this
thing that sort of lobs my bullets, I could hide
up there and Okay, it's kind of hard to hit them,
but whatever, I'm protected. Let me see if I can
get another card to synergize with that. And then I
got the one where it's like, all right, it's a
fast burst. And then I got another one where it's like, okay,
if it were the flex off something, the very first
character it sees it's gonna aim at that character, it's like, well,
that's dangerous, but I might be able to make this
work since I understand what to expect here and that
I got to that last round with Jan and I
just jumped up and fired at the ground where Jan
was standing and he was completely protected, and it bounced
off the ground and just killed him. I barely had
to do anything. It's like, Okay, understanding how this stuff
works together is just as important as being very good
at like running around, jumping and aiming, and that kind
of evens things out a little.
Speaker 2: Bit right in an interesting way. So did you guys
play with like the mod that lets you do more
than two players? Oh yeah, we're thinking about it. Someone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone reached out to me and was like, yo,
you can do this, and I gotta investigate further how
that works. I think the cool thing about rounds is
like it's also it's like surprisingly fair, Like just the
balancing that you get towards round three, four and five
are just increasing, you know. I mean, look, it's weird, right,
Like Dib's so good at spider Hack, fucking cooks me.
Like we'll do fifty rounds and he'll go like thirty
five and fifteen in this game. I've just got his number.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: He hates me, but uh yeah, I think it's I
I think it's really really strong. Spider Reck is just
like the natural comparison, I think. But yeah, this this
game kind of rules. We'll just go through like, uh,
you know, we'll do like five rounds and uh that's
that's enough, uh friction, so that we can move on
with the rest.
Speaker 2: Of our day. M h it's great and you can
move on. Yeah, you know, I think and I love how.
Speaker 3: Insane things escalate and how quickly because by the third round,
like someone is op in a way where you're like, okay,
you cannot be explode the entire map like we do,
pull things back, things get nuts, And I love how
like things stacked too right, like especially when you get
like a glass cannon a couple of times in a
row and you're like, oh man, this thing is now
just on.
Speaker 2: It's a one shot kill. Yeah. I think it's really
really strong.
Speaker 3: I am genuinely surprise it did not cross our radar
earlier considering how how long it's been around.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there needs to be a name for that.
John a spider heck this power samurai gun. Yeah like that,
or as a lot of people call them, couch co
op like the cotch co op Lego party with you
last night, Mike. That was a good catch cop really nice.
That was the new gimmicks. It was. It was great.
But we should talk about leg Party as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so so yeah, so if people missed
our stream last night, uh the Lego Lego Party. People
actually reached out to us to h see if we
wanted to check out a new update for the game
a bit ahead of time. The updates out tomorrow and
that's a few things, a few new mini fake characters
to play as they turned some of the like free
for all games into two v two mode, and you know,
it's games that work pretty well for like that kind
of splittoo ny one right where you just walking around
painting the floor.
Speaker 2: They still have a single version. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The big thing here is so original Lega Party did
not have like the bonus star equivalent then like oh
who won the most mini games?
Speaker 2: Right bricks? Right, so there's bonus bricks, but it's you
vote for which the bonus brick are going to be.
At the beginning, you can say how many you want,
like one to like it was like ten or something. Yes,
so we did with three. But again it wasn't just
like oh who won the most mini games? It was
like when you're voting to play what mini game and
you could stand on what's one your voting for? Is
like who jumped the most in this mini game rights,
so I called that and I knew I jumped the most,
so I'm like, everyone, we should vote for that one.
So I tried to convince everyone to go in, and
they did, so I got that bonus prick and knowing
that I was jumping through that entire mini game.
Speaker 4: But like, I probably have that and it could be
like who got who has you know, could be more
normally who collected the most studs, or you could still
just go to the random one and who knows what
it's going to be.
Speaker 2: It's so so good. Yeah, okay that element.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you know, I like I kind of
like a little bit of the chaos of the bonus
stars for Mario Party. It was something I maybe missed in.
Speaker 2: Basic Lego Party, and this seems this is a really
smart way of implementing that. I think it was one
of the only things that I preferred about Mario Party
gameplay wise was the bullshit stars. So hearing that they
put that in and made it even more fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome, right, especially because you know there was
a little bit of like, oh, we know exactly who
won right before when the game ends and out and
knows what's going to happen this weird bonus brick parts.
So yeah, we had a we had a lot of
fun playing that.
Speaker 2: Actually, I really yeah.
Speaker 1: Did Aj and Chris play Lego Party before had Chris.
Speaker 4: Had watched his Sun play, so it was actually his
first time playing it. Okay, awesome and uh and they
had a good time as well.
Speaker 2: Very easy to pick up and play.
Speaker 1: Shouts out to everyone that tuned in last night for
the Lego Party update, party, in person party and party.
Speaker 4: And by the way, we are we're doing a thing
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Last game I have on the docket here, I check
this out. Gosh was this a week two weeks ago now?
Prag Mata, Mikey and I sat down. We did a
little quick look good. Amen, can shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: I can't disagree.
Speaker 4: What do you know?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Heard enough? Oh boy, maybe a backlark.
Speaker 1: Then it's just fucking it there exactly. Let's just planet
in the gardens plant it. Yeah, Oh my good, Yeah, Okay,
there we go, Pragmata. This is still I have yet
to get confirmed it. It may or may not be
a Mega Man game, but it is a third person shooter.
I had a bunch of fun with it. It looks
really slick. I like the their take on like future
dystopian designs on their robots, even though it's kind of
similar ish to the Horizon style. I just think I
like how these are more a little bit humanoid and
up looking versus animals, and.
Speaker 4: It's like more sci fi, like straight straight up sci fi, right,
like that kind of weird, like so pristine.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of.
Speaker 4: Creepy sci fi, like too clean looking. It's too clean,
and I like that vibe. So yeah, I was watching
some some b roll that cap con sense based off
of the demo that you played. Gosh, this game keeps
looking better every time I see it. My favorite thing
in this demo was because you know, there's there's two
parts of the gameplay. There is the third person shooting
as the guy, and then the girl does this hacking
and it's kind of like, oh, you got to kind
of navigate this little face buttons, right, So you're doing
both of these at the same time. But I love
seeing how they are connected. It's not just like, oh,
I'm playing two separate games and that's the challenge. Like
the best the coolest part was she was doing the
hacking thing and there were these giant kind of like
nodes blocking the grid. Yeah, and on the enemy that
she's hacking, there are these same nodes just on the
character and you could shoot those nodes and when you
destroy them on the character, they disappear on the hacking grid,
so you can do the hack. I'm like, oh, that's
super smart. That is so connected and just seems so
fun and immediately understandable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very excited to This footage didn't show off
how hectic and how mobile you can get because you
can stretch your brain out to be juggling both things
and like hacking one enemy but you're shooting a different
one and then like firing off your different side arms
to like stun them or to distract them. A weapon
that we didn't show off in our little quick look
is like kind of like a hologram of Hugh that
you can shoot out, so you can futz around and
like distract enemies and get them looking one way and
then pop them off and have more isolated encounters so
you can pick them off versus having all of them
swarm you. And there are instances where they are all
swarming you. Another thing that wasn't in the footage is
that I love a game, y'all with a finisher. I
love a game a gigantic exactly a gigantic bun prompt
is above an enemy and no matter how far you are,
if the icon is like lit up put it, you
just zip over and then like Hugh will, just like
with his basic pistol, just boom the robot automaton. And
I know this is a concern I've seen some people have,
is that they're going to get sick and tired of
the interplay and the conversations with Diana and Hugh because
it's a little child. It is a robot child. And
again this doesn't get shown off super well in the
quick Look or the footage we were provided, but I
actually really enjoy the interactions between Hugh and Diana. Diana
has like an innocent curiosity over the world, but she's
also not incompetent, like she's not getting scared over Oh god,
there's a just gigantic baby robot. It's more like, now
let me handle this dog.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: It's like less of the lone wolf young cub trope
that like right like Last of Us, Mike, you mentioned
this during the quick look, loves to like shove down
our throats, and it's more like here's it's like two
fish out of water just meeting each other, and one
hacks stuff while the one shoots. I don't want to
alarm anyone, though. There is a clap track equivalent in
this game.
Speaker 2: Oh what does that mean?
Speaker 4: The communter's like just a goofy little robot that's gonna
be joking around and they can jerk off hand motions
at me and stuff.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the jerk off hand motions, but there is
a clap trap robot that is like cracking wise, but
he's mostly no, not the Miles McKenzie that'd be great.
He just hangs out in your hub and you play
like Bingo with him to unlock different abilities like and
info stuff. I am really excited to see what later
in the game looks like because I mentioned this on
the Quick Look, but the two previews that I've played
kind of follow a similar format where you get to
this stop gap in a level and then you have
to go collect or unlock five to six different keys,
and I'm worried that that's what the primary flow the
game will be. I hope that that's just the slices
of the game that they decide to show for the demo.
But what I am pleased about, though, is that this
city section that they showed us is very much more
open of an environment versus the tight corridors of a
space station that we've seen in like all the trailers.
So I'm interested to see the different locales and locations
they will show in Pragmata. The other thing that bothers
me and this is just a me thing.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: I see a gigantic mech suit on the dude, I
see booster jets. I just want him tone slide like
a Vanquishish of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, I didn't want that. Yeah, yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a later ability that gets unblocked.
Speaker 2: Sports look really smooth, So you would you just expect
it to work? Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1: But like, I think this game is also going to
be covertly funny in the same way that Resident Evil
is funny. Where uh oh, we didn't know that we
made a joke. Was that inappropriate timing? Okay, here it is, haha,
and it just it just feels good, y'all. Like Capcom
has this engine fully figured out. It's tuned up.
Speaker 2: They haven't figured out on open world games anyways. Pretty well, Yeah,
I'm doing a finisher in a Capcom game, and it
reminds me we did that Resident Evil seven DLC. We
did the stream of the entirety of the end of
Zoe thing, and at one point my brother, who turned
into a monster, just gave me a straight up power bomb.
It was that DLC was ridiculous, just swimming around alligators.
Then you get the god hand and you beat your
monster brother to death. It was fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Capcom to continue the heater of a year.
Speaker 2: They've already one twelve PM. Oh, I thought he was
cutting down to another meteor. He's asking for lunch. Now,
oh well, I guess I mean I was done talking
about Pragmata. Anyway, that's gotta be out real soon, y'all,
like in a month.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very very So who's got that in fantasy?
Someone has to have it already, right, Look, I think Danty,
you also did I get it that?
Speaker 2: That is one turbo Sean has that. I think you
might have got that pretty early on, actually solid that
the flower is going to be the new time dot
is first sinking the box itself says it's like mostly
kind of accurate with the time. Yeah, it's it was
a little late on that, actually I got it. I
don't know why you felt confident enough to count down
to noon and he was that far off?
Speaker 6: Yea?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it like connected to Wi Fi? I understand, No,
it's just anything right. It just doesn't not It's not
even an alarm clock, So how does it know what times?
And you said the time, and you said, like the
hours it is awake, and so I said, like I
want to wake up at seven. I can't tell him that.
I'm just like you can wake up whenever you want
after seven whatever. It's oh my god, oh boy. But anyways,
keeping it on in the kitchen.
Speaker 5: Before before we move on, I should talk about this
meteor because there's gonna people yeah that were like near me,
the like, hey, did you experience that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Uh, apparently I was downstairs so I didn't hear it
or but immediately stuff was like something exploded.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 5: Yes, something exploded, And apparently people all around the Cleveland
area are like something exploded, calling nine one one, being
like a house exploded.
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure on my okay, I kind of like
was feeling pretty tired from the stream, so I kind
of laid back down and then got.
Speaker 5: Up later and she's like, it was a meteor. A
meteor flew over like Columbus and then over Cleveland and
it like exploded over Lake Erie, so basically right over
the lake right next.
Speaker 2: To my house. It's like how the dinosaurs died or
you guys.
Speaker 4: It wasn't an asteroid but blew up in the atmosphere,
so we're good, But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was weird.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: And I saw some like dashcam footage of people like
on so kind of be like, oh man, did that
just explode in the air. Yeah, apparently it shook houses
all around the city and people heard it as far
away as Pittsburgh and Columbus.
Speaker 2: So better luck next time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, come for me space, Yeah, trying to take
me out.
Speaker 2: Take an independency laser come down into his frame.
Speaker 4: Still a super fun time to see a meteor flying
through the sky when you know we're at war with.
Speaker 1: It looked a lot like some other stuff I saw.
I wouldn't say where at war. I think it's mostly
just dumb fucking idiots. Anyway, I'm very excited about Pragmata.
It makes me excited for one Musha and I was
less than excited for that or I.
Speaker 2: Will to anything Capcom is doing now. I mean they've
always had my attention, but now, holy shit, I kind
of want to go back to Exo Primal.
Speaker 5: That's how much I'm into Sure right now, I'm like
I should give that game another chance. I was probably wrong,
Like that's how it feel than most people I thought.
I know, Yeah, I was like a seven point five
on that. Yeah, but like, uh, what is it?
Speaker 1: Monster Hunter Stories three reviewed?
Speaker 2: Really well? That's like yeah, like I like maybe I
should actually check that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so good on Capcom.
Speaker 4: Somehow, the somehow the Mega bag game is going to
be where they double and I'm gonna be sad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mikey. Well now it's gonna be great. Uh So, folks,
we're gonna take a quick, pricky break and assess and
pick up a bunch of meteor rocks and then sell
them on the internet.
Speaker 2: And then Jeff Greb will talk about the news right
after this. This is Jeff with Yeah, I have some
news here for you, everybody. Let's uh, let's let's start
with everyone's favorite.
Speaker 5: Nvidio met with criticism for DLSS's five's photo real graphics alterations.
U DLSS five was something they kind of announced and
then had some coverage. It's an advancement and its image
enhancement technology, which it calls the most significant breakthrough in
computer graphics since the debut of real time ray tracing.
Unlike previous versions that focused on upscaling resolution or improving
frame rates, DLSS five uses AI to alter game visuals
with photo real lighting and materials, aiming to bridge the
divide between rendering and reality. They had some examples they
showed off, and they chose some curious ones. There are
some ones where it's like, oh yeah, the starfield characters
look bad, so when you try to when you improve them.
I noticed that, Okay, is that what the game should
look like?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: I have some questions. And then they had stuff like
Resident Evil Requiem, where we all know what Grace looks
like right now. That is a very popular character that's
popping off, like people are super into Grace right now,
and she looks a certain way, and then you turn
on DLSS five and she looks different. It's not just
the lighting it is I guess that's what they're saying.
Lighting and materials, materials meaning makeup and like yasifying her.
Speaker 2: Lip filler face just looks different. It's not just the
lighting thing. It looks like the AI advertisement.
Speaker 4: Right, It's just it's like AI doing it, Like, Okay,
that's what AI decides Grace's face is going to look
like in that frame, and in that scene. I could
decide it looks a different way in different scenes, in
different frames. Uh. Weird.
Speaker 5: Even if they even if they fix those flaws though,
because that's like, you know, that's an issue, but that's
not my fundamental issue. My fundamental issue is I want
that character to look like Grace period. Uh and and
and she just doesn't she looks different? There are you know,
there are There was an example of like Assassin's Creed
where they kind of had a big landscape and you know,
the lighting looked improved in the landscape, Like there's some
merit to the technology when it comes to that stuff.
I just don't, you know, there's question marks about like
is this the artist intent or whatever. I just think
it mostly looks because I've begin I've been getting an
eye for like, oh, I can now tell when a
character is AI or like an Instagram account that comes
across my feet like that that's an AI lady, And
I just can tell in a half a second now,
and it has that sort of plasticy look.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: All these characters, the Harry Potter ones especially had the
most AI. Yes. So I I like this feels like
it is something separate from the whole idea of what
DLSS was supposed to be machine learning to improve frame
rate and resolution, and now we are getting this extra
shit on top that. Of course that this is where
they were headed.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But there's been a lot of backlash and people have
been getting very like sort of vocal about this at
Nvidia and sort of anyone kind of covering it as well.
You want to hear from developers for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also want to uh so were they using
the words uhi?
Speaker 2: We were they using the word materials all along?
Speaker 3: Because I'm I feel like the stuff I saw in
the beginning was everyone's saying like, oh no, they're just
it's all lighting obviously that that can't be true, right right?
Speaker 2: I think so. I think they were using photo photo,
real lighting and materials. I think it's exactly how they phrased.
Speaker 1: It, you know.
Speaker 2: I guess my biggest fear of this sort of stuff
is like the normies will will might like it, and
then oh god, yeah, there's a certain type of dude
that equates good graphics with these football players and cars
look real, you know, Like I think we've all met
those guys. It's like the guy when I was reviewing
Okami that thought the graphics were trash because it didn't
look like a real dog. It's like those people super
exist and they happen to be very loud on the internet,
and it's right.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is fun even with this, like you
will you know, and it's mostly people online in like
the kind of video game bubble A bit beyond it
talking about all those looks. But then you'll see the
one person like, I'm really confused, this looks more realistic.
Why don't people like this? Like how you just do
you not see it? And you know you don't feel
just kind of naturally weird out by it? But what
I hate a about this or what's bothering me?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: At the top of all the other reasons why it sucks,
It's like every time every time I say AI is bad,
there's somebody wants to be like, wow, but it's good
for this and that, and I'd be like, Okay, I
guess I like frame generation, and yeah, I think it's
neat that.
Speaker 2: That's machine learning. There is a difference exactly, but.
Speaker 4: It's like okay, yeah, d oss, I guess that stuff
seems fine. And then you know, then this is where
that ends up as well, right, Like it can't just
stop at doing the pretty nice thing. Now we are
yasifying freaking video game characters so they look like they're
selling freaking Vogue or something.
Speaker 2: There's like the magazine, Oh.
Speaker 1: You also have royalties on that.
Speaker 5: This does feel like an overarching filter just applied in
the way that AI has been applied everywhere where. It's
like we built this thing and now we have now
we can stop doing work and it'll just do the
work for us. And that's very different than like, you know,
fifteen years ago, I'd being made Watson and Watch and
very became quickly became and that was a machine learning
to It was experts like we're going to make this
thing so that it can understand natural language, but then
we're going to specify it for certain tasks using experts
so that it becomes as good as human oncologists at
detecting cancer. And then it became better, and it's like, Okay,
that is a useful thing. That is experts in a
field knowing what they need, the data that they need
to train this model on so that it can do
this thing, and they're trying to get a certain result.
The idea of the generalized AI come in in here
and applying these things. That's like, okay, that's so many
steps removed from the people I want making my games.
How much control are the artists going to have? And
I guess that leads to Bethesda, who is one of
the studios where like this is all great and everyone's
like okay, even if these characters do look more realistic,
we want the artist to have a say, and they
claim that that's still going to be the case. Nvidia
announced the LSS five and image enhancement blah blah blah.
The announcement has faced criticism from some players and industry
professionals who see it as an unwanted fielder that drastically
altered a game's original art direction. Following backlash, particularly using
after using Starfield as a demo, but those the game
studios sought to quell concerns, assuring players the developers will
have full control over tuning the effect and the feat
and that the feature will be entirely optional video claims.
In Vidia claims developers can adjust intensity, color, and masking
to maintain a game's unique aesthetic. So okay, I that's
I still I'm a little skeptical that that's how it's
gonna end up being used, because the whole idea is
just flip a switch and you get all these improved things.
But hopefully developers can't get in there and get what
they want out of this, And then I really want
the ability to like pick and choose what I'm getting
when I turn on DLSS, because at this point, it's like,
this does feel like something different. Should have been a
filter off to the side, and Vidia has a lot
of weird filters and the and their tools that no
one ever uses. Just group it up with that stuff
and lead the LSS out of it, which has been
actually pretty impressive technology.
Speaker 2: One of the things that bugs me the most in
all of the examples that they've shown is, you know,
a lot of it is just with the faces right
and talking about like.
Speaker 1: Oh, photography and games like we're bringing it to a
different level, but the lighting that they're showing is completely
unnatural and not respective to the actual scenes that we're
seeing in any of these games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even I think in like that initial press release
or whatever from Nvidia talking about it, they're still using
that fucking language of like, now we are creating graphics
of fidelity previously only seen.
Speaker 2: In holy works.
Speaker 4: Like this fucking weird insecure boner that this industry still
has for Hollywood visual effects, which often aren't even that
good anymore. Right, It's just you're always been baffling to meet.
Speaker 3: The worst kind of boner you could have is that's insecure.
But I think, look, you know, I'm not here to
champion any of these things.
Speaker 2: You know that stuff especially for post production in uh,
you know, film and TV. It's common. Uh. Like I said,
at the GDC, all the AI panels were full. Yeah
really yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was huge audiences for
like I think I had, like the biggest audience seemed
to be for one of the Google AI things. So
did you see the clip of the co pilot. I
don't know if it was GDC, but the way like
copilot would be an Xbox or whatever, there was ye
word the voice, We're like, tell me how to get
these gems and diabloads, like hey, I can see on
your screen here you're doing this. It's like people been
testing that and there was a report like thirty percent
of people just use that to chat to the AI
while they're playing a game. It was that was it?
Speaker 4: God, that's the dopian? Uh Is it true that you
like for them running this right now? At least they
were just using two fifty nineties or something. Yeah.
Speaker 5: That that's another thing where it's like it's unoptimized right now.
So they were using two fifty nineties. They say that
when it launches, it'll run on a single graphics card. Yeah,
I will see what that actually ends up looking like.
Speaker 4: It could be bad it Just like again, who was
playing Resident Evil nine on max setting? Thinking this didn't
look good enough?
Speaker 2: Anyways?
Speaker 4: In I mean, I know why this is what Nvidia
is emphasizing on because they are now an AI company,
that's what they do. But this, this is what we
don't need post process filter. We don't need to do
it in post with residual nine. The game looks good.
We don't need higher fidelity and.
Speaker 2: Need improvements. It's great, it's perfect as it is.
Speaker 1: Near proct What is this supposed to be able to
do then with like a more stylized game, right, Like
you know, that's the.
Speaker 5: Big concern for me is is this going to make
everything look the same, because it like, uh, that's like
those Instagram fake ladies.
Speaker 2: They all look the same.
Speaker 5: They all have the same things, like across the board
they have almost the only time we say that yes, right,
and it's like it's oh, there's a one idea of
what this this technology has about what looks good. So
when you say, hey, make my ship look good, this
is what it's going to output. And so when we
have a stylized game. Is it just going to make
that look more realistic as well?
Speaker 4: What is it going to look like when it shows
a monster from residueval not just you know, well, I
you know, the AI knows what a pretty lady looks
like apparently.
Speaker 2: Or like what characters from like The Last of Us
that aren't super stylized, you.
Speaker 4: Know, right, it's going to look stupid and that we
should just be continuing to make things more efficient. Let's
find ways to make these graphs cards cheaper. Maybe let's
do things about the ram shorts, and instead we get
fucking AI lip filler.
Speaker 3: Yep, I think like, uh, you know, I I try
and you know, just like trying and understand the sort
of like the steps here and like you know, and
and and you know, all right, so they show off
this this footage in the most like extreme way possible,
right like, they show off the technology rather in the
most extreme way possible, and nearly universe everyone is just
like well, like you know, up chuck reflex right like,
and I I just it makes me wonder like, all right,
what does it wind up actually looking like?
Speaker 2: Right? And I want to and look like.
Speaker 4: Like it or not.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I think the thing that
I hope there is a really tangible carve out for
is that there is such a an agency on the
developer end to kind of like steer this in a
way that they want right at.
Speaker 5: The likely scenario here is this stuff actually doesn't play
out this way, and it does become an optional thing
that most people don't use, and it's like two percent
of people actually turn this shit on.
Speaker 2: That's very likely.
Speaker 4: Because you know it's going to be the next motion
smoothing on TVs right, yes.
Speaker 3: Exactly, well, which which everywhere you go, everywhere you go
is universally switched on.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to tell you. My TV
turns it back on by itself about every or so. Great. Yeah, yeah,
like the TV will like auto update and then I'll
go into the clarity oppositely, you isn't that that's weird? Okay,
it's a you know, bad TV.
Speaker 5: Uh, all right, let's keep going here. Switch To finally
lets you play switch one games in doc mode while
playing on handheld, so kind of a.
Speaker 2: Boost mode here.
Speaker 5: The switch To has received a system update that adds
the highly requested handheld mode boost setting. This new feature
allows original Switch games to run in the high powered
ten ADP DOC mode even when playing on switch to
in handheld mode, so the switch to has a ten
ADP screen. All the games in handheld mode on Switch
one that have not had switched to versions are almost
all locked to seven to twenty P, so they were
kind of spreading those pixels over there, so it looked
a little fuzzy, a little soft. This should make the
image look quite a bit crisper because it's all these
all these games were also made to run at ten
ADP for TVs, so it should just fit natively on there.
Speaker 2: This is a very smart thing to do. It's cool.
Speaker 5: They should have had this from the beginning, but yes,
it's cool. Glad they're doing it now. There should also
be like extra power there for some games that had
higher frame rates when it was in doc mode or
something like that.
Speaker 2: So this is great.
Speaker 4: It's the kind of thing you almost don't expect Nintendo
to do. So that they did do this, I'm like, yay, you.
Speaker 2: Remember Nintendo, And like I feel like it was like
two years into the Switch ones life cycle and they're like, hey,
we did an update. It's got Bluetooth now. I told
her them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just like I guess they just like unlocked it.
I mean, obviously the radio is there.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, the PlayStation five and Xbox Series X,
do those support Bluetooth headsets because I know the PlayStation
four didn't, like you switch like, I don't know, but
a stuff.
Speaker 2: When you do, like the official Sony headsets and stuff
like the Elite Pulse and all that stuff in the earbuds,
they all have a dongle. Yeah, they have a dongle, right, yes, yeah,
so I don't know. Can you just attached bluetooth because
PS three had bluetooth?
Speaker 3: Yeah, people saying yeah, so I'm I'm ninety percent sure.
Like more newer Xbox controllers can LARP as Bluetooth controllers.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Yes, but they also connect that they
connect using their own protocol on the Xbox though or whatever.
Yeah all right, yeah, either way. It was like, Bluetooth
is a weird thing. That was.
Speaker 5: It was odd when Nintendo did add that, especially because
the other consoles didn't have it. So yeah, uh, Nintendo,
you know, kind of being smart here. We'll see how
this actually ends up looking, but it sounds like it
should work the.
Speaker 4: Way some people tapping like like METROI Primary Master looks
no better or something like dread. Oh that's not as much, right, Okay,
so yeah, I'll be curious. I'll be curious to see
to test this out, but I bet I probably am
not going to know that much of difference. Like the
seven twenty to ten eighty resolution thing has never been
one that's been super stood out to me. Maybe a
little blurriness if you put them side by side, and.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit more blurring the switch to situation
just because that's a ten ADP screen and interpolating it
from seven to twenty so the pixels don't line up perfectly.
Speaker 2: That adds a little bit of that softness. But even then,
you're right, most people are not going to notice.
Speaker 4: My first thought was the Marvelrus Capcom collection right, which
is a switch one game right version of that.
Speaker 2: Let's see what that looks like.
Speaker 5: Uh, this just happened. Io Interactive in Mind's eye Studio
be a Rocket Boy, or as it's affectionately called BARB
officially end Partnership hit Man Crossover DLC to be scrapped.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 4: Like it rock Boy instead of build a rocket. Blay
by the way, that's more aspirational.
Speaker 2: I like, Bill, it's built a rocket boy. You're right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, it sounds like that partnership did not work out
and they are done and they're not gonna do that
DLC or whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah game, yeah, would have destroyed Hitmen.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be one of the.
Speaker 2: Whenever there's like a conference or something where it was like, oh,
we're showing off like a new Hitman thing and we're
showing off minds. I like, like share the stage and
I'm sorry Hitman. People don't serve this, the hard working
people that made hit Man up there on stage. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, It's gonna be one of the all time
what ifs and video games? Right, what if what if
Sony did make the PlayStation for Nintendo?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: What if Atari released the ne e s? What if
we did get the Hitman mind's eye collaboration.
Speaker 5: I'm and really, we don't get this because of saboteurs
and corporate espionage and spotes. It was they infiltrated, They
infiltrated Io Interactive and that got to him.
Speaker 2: Now you said the word saboteur, and I really I've
been hankering to play the Sabotage.
Speaker 5: I want to play the Saboteur and I want to
I want to personally in my life exchange the code
for the nipple DLC.
Speaker 2: I want to go because I didn't it on Steam
and I did the adjustments to where it can run
like you know, it can run great on on Steam
and it just has the nipple mode in.
Speaker 4: The options code for I don't know about nipple DLC
for Saboteur, so.
Speaker 5: On the on the on the consoles, like if it
was part of their ten dollars past thing where it's
like you can you can buy this game and then
you can ext change this DLC to get the tassels
off the boobs for some of the characters that are
dancers in It's shit, It's a game about me.
Speaker 2: I did started to test it and just starting like
a speakeasy where it's like they're singing and just girl
on stage full boobs of like every woman in the
crowd is all booby.
Speaker 5: The idea was, so when you go to sell this
game used and so someone buys the game, now they
have a reason to give you ten dollars because they're
gonna want to see the nipples. Who's gonna play this game?
And ten dollars to see the nipples? So we do
any without the nips?
Speaker 2: I play this game. Yeah, it's interesting, don't want to
go back. And it was pandemic. They did a fucking
mercenaries and yeah, what a full spectrum warrior right there. Yeah, like,
I think this deserves a look.
Speaker 4: During the pandemic and I, I guess I just started
imagining a man alone in his apartment playing saboteur buying
Nipple DC while having a conversation with co pilot about
his feelings or something, and I got pretty sad.
Speaker 2: Well, a real man, you mean, Yeah, I think it's
worth a look. I want to play it.
Speaker 5: I had a friend who played it and he seemed
to quite like it at the time, and I always
meant to go back to it.
Speaker 2: I should.
Speaker 5: Starfield is finally coming to PS five next month, alongside
new content and PS five Pro support. It's going to
launch let's see here for fifty dollars for the standard edition.
The deluxe edition will be sixty five dollars. The Xbox
and PC versions have received an immediate price cut to
match this pricing. The PS five version will support the
PS five Pro with both a performance mode and visual mode.
It will have two new content pieces, Terran Armada and
Free Lanes, which will also launch in April. Taran Armada
is a paid DLC of ten dollars, introducing new characters, locations,
enemy's quest and rewards. Free Lanes is a free update
for all players, adding highly requested InterPlaNet interplanetary travel, new encounters,
points of interest, dungeons, a new land vehicle called the
Moon Jumper, and a new crew member, Miria.
Speaker 4: I want to say something maybe controversial here. I don't
think STARFORLD was very good.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, you can't just say that. I agree with Mike.
It was pretty bad.
Speaker 4: It was, I thought, yeah, a shockingly boring game for
a game where you can like make spaceships and travel
and actual galaxy.
Speaker 2: Does any of this. Yeahs it's on PlayStation now, so
Greg Miller can do play through his thirty seven. I
think he was well the one out there like like
seeing this stuff first, they know their boy. I think
Le was posting about like I just finished my sixth
playthrough of Starfield. The are you talking? Apparently it gets
weird on the on the reprist. Yeah, yeah, but I
just didn't care about the game. What do you think
this doesn't PlayStation?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Does this even sell a million copies on PlayStation? Okay,
so many games, yes, But a lot of the complaints
like they sound like they are doing something about it.
A vehicle to explore the world, added like the points
of interest. I would like to be interested in any
point on one of those Starfield planets because I just
like when I would land, that's interplanetary travel. Is something
where it's like that would have been a nice to have.
That was not why I didn't like the game as
much as I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess I will see what this added content is.
I think I have little faith that it's going to
address the problems I have with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Word is boring. That's that's the word of a
boring game.
Speaker 4: Just boring, unremarkable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, turns out Space is fucking boring, guys. I mean,
look at what no Man Sky pulled it off. You
know they had a rough.
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry like it if your big plot twist
is a multiverse slop, I just have a hard time
getting excited about that. Yeah, what if there's a world
where you had red hair instead of black.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, like I could see like once you get
into that, like exploring the possibilities, but you're right like
as a concept, like like presenting that to me, I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just not interested. We've seen it fifty times recently, so
all right.
Speaker 5: PS five PROS Major Pisser update is rolling out to
more games this week, with Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven to follow.
This did launch with Resident Will Requiem I Believe, and
now they are adding Let's see here, Monster Hunter, Wilde,
Silent Hilth, Final, Fantasy seven Rebirth, Allen Wake two, Control,
Dragon Age, The Vail Guard, Dragon's Dogma two, Neo three,
Rise of the Ronin I forgot about that game, Sinua's
Saga I Never knew how to say her name. Help
A two and Silent Hill two Crimson Desert will support
it at launch on March nineteenth, and Assassin's Creed Shadows
in Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven will receive patches in the
coming weeks. To reminder, this is the upgraded image upscaling
tech where it's like they used the old version of
AI upscaling or machine learning upscaling, and now they have
the new version of that that's been powering DLSS for
the last few years and recently powered FSR from AMD.
Speaker 2: So this should make.
Speaker 5: PlayStation five pro games that all already looked pretty good.
Even crisper is the word they keep using that PS
five pros expensive. I think all the work they can
do to make people feel like it's worth their money
is probably a good thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even like I don't have a pro, I'm
probably not getting a pro. But they like, you know,
hearing this, like ooh, people seem to actually like this
technology and the idea of like going back to Fompha
seven Rebirth, which kind of was, you know, pretty blurry
looking on a base PlayStation five, and I know it
already looks better on the pro. Oh it's gonna look
that much better. Really, that's kind of interesting. Could move
the needle for some people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But hearing all of this and all these improvements
in people being pleased like, oh cool, my PS five
pros delivering just makes the idea of a PS six
less and less appealing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think this is part of them like trying to
like set the groundwork for what a PS six, what
text PS six will eventually use. But it's, uh, you're right,
this is already a point where this is very expensive
and it's gonna make games look very good.
Speaker 2: And are they gonna can they look that much better
and justify an even higher costs for more impressive hardware.
It's it's tough.
Speaker 1: What do you think the general populace would be more
okay with a PS six or a revision to the
PS five PRO.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get a little.
Speaker 4: Bit of both, Like, yeah, I mean, I do think
you get the norm he's excited with that six. Unfortunately,
I think definitely got to do the number.
Speaker 2: But I think there's a cheaper version that is basically
a newer PS five. They will probably put a six
on that as well, though. Right now it is pretty
rare where it's like I've got the Pro and like
I remember Yote was one where it's like, okay, this
this is noticing dark game better on the Pro. But
then it's like Ari Requiem where it's like, you know,
I played all that on the Pro and I've watched
a ton of Bianca playet and it's like, looks pretty
fucking good on both mm yeah, yeah, I can't tell
the difference.
Speaker 5: A lot of times there's like select games, especially from Sony,
that seem to really take advantage of the pro but
not not across the board.
Speaker 2: Mm hm uh.
Speaker 5: Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salmon's EGDC firm has acquired
five percent of Capcom. Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salmon,
through his investment firms, has acquired an additional five point
zero three percent stake in Capcom with the Electronic Gaming
Development Company, a subsidiary of the MISC Foundation. This is
separate from a five percent steak acquired by the nation's
public investment fund in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: The EGDC, which.
Speaker 5: Also gained a gain full control of S and K
in twenty twenty two, reportedly made the acquisition as a
pure investment. This is the latest in a series of
global video game investments by Saudi Arabia. It's also planning
a fifty five billion dollar acquisition of Electronic Arts by
mid twenty twenty six. So a couple thanks here. This
is you know, PIFF is the one where it's like
they do seem to stand off a little bit more.
It is Saudi money still, but it's not necessarily People
always like, are they going to take control and control
the content? There are things that are illegal in Saudi Arabia?
Will we not see those in certain games?
Speaker 2: So much?
Speaker 5: And that that has not manifested itself, whereas meanwhile, the
EGDC and it's ownership of S and K has been like,
let's put uh NB NBS's best friends into this video game.
Let's put Christiano Cristiano Ronaldo in there, and that DJ and.
Speaker 2: A DJ he likes. Yes, yeah, so cool. That was
a guy that NBS personally life like that. Yes, yes,
oh yes, let's just put that. We're going, Jesus Christ.
This is like when he wanted Yokazuna for that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well it's you know, we were just glazing up Capcom
a lot because I'll go their games has been and
this is this and you know the fact that they
were pretty happy participants in all that d Oss five stuff.
It's like, boy, that could turn around in any moment,
huh they get you know, It's it's always just two
steps away from a company having a golden era to
being in uh the shitter again. And I hope that
this isn't a sign of that happening, but boy, it's concerning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is uh, like, you know, these are publicly
very available shares. He could just go out and buy these.
Sounds like that's exactly what he did. But yeah, this
is the guy that has his journalist killed and has
done other awful stuff. So it's never one of those
things where it's like, oh, great, now I.
Speaker 2: Feel good about this. I feel pretty bad about it.
This is a shitty thing to see, all right, So
let's get to the rest of these stories here. Just
a couple of more.
Speaker 5: As it passes six million sales, Capcom officially confirms Resident
Evil Requiem is the series's fastest selling game. Basically, that's
the story. We kind of had a hunch on that
when there was the number of five million in like
four days or something like that. This is now six
million in a week's time. Yes, a little bit more
than that, but they basically just came out and said, yes,
this is the fastest selling Resident Evil game, which will
make it one of its fastest selling games period. It
should rushed about ten million copies sold by the end
of the year pretty easily if it's already at six million,
and the word of mouth has continued to be very good,
so Capcom a smart investment if you have the money
to throw around, because it does feel like they are
going to keep capitalizing on the success and do we
and more of it, like going from this into launching
a new one with Pragmata, which if it does hit
the way that you know these demos have hit, could
really set the company up for a strong couple of
years now where they have you know, successful, well known
properties and new games popping off as well. That's gonna
be something investors like to see, you know.
Speaker 2: And another thing I noticed about Requiem that it does
so well last night was that like everything being so
shitty now, and I specifically think about like that two
K twenty six that are you quit? Look Yeahward's like
everything is like no matter if you spend one hundred
fifty bucks, here's a bunch of other give you give
us money, give us money, give us money stuff. Is
that like when Bonk beat Requiem last night, you know,
it's like, hey, you've unlocked all this stuff now you
can like you get enough of completion points and you
can get this gun there or there's a knife that
never breaks and stuff, and it's like there's none of
it was micro transaction stuff. It was just like, hey,
you have the game, here's a bunch of cool shit
you can unlock now to kind of keep it going.
Like that was refreshed. I mean, that's how things just
used to be. All that used to me. You're so
used to seeing it monetized now.
Speaker 4: Right, So, and I think, you know, the last best
selling Residevil game was just Resume before remake, So the
last one. I wonder if this momentum is going to
continue with the next one, because presumably that's a remake
of either Zero or Code Veronica, which are both games
that you know, they weren't the best selling Residuval games
in their original forms, right, so it.
Speaker 5: Will be the best It won't be the fastest selling,
but I bet those games will do extremely well.
Speaker 2: Like that's is that what you think? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, exactly, Like I bet that. You know, it's
not going to be like the next new best selling one,
but yeah, I think people are just going to be
so excited for whatever the next big Residue will release
is at this point going forward, Uh breaking.
Speaker 2: News about to say, I was about to I was
about to ask, this is very exciting.
Speaker 5: Uh So the super Mario Galaxy Movie on on Twitter
has posted something. Now I'm double checking it's verified.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real, it's real, it's real verified.
Speaker 5: Uh well it's it's the golden verified where it's like, oh,
it's it belongs to a business account.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's different the only real one, right, yes, yeah,
the fake one were you buy. Of course that means
nothing that that is not this.
Speaker 5: So this is the Super Mario Galaxy Movie account as
a ten second video that they posted saying, hey, get
ready to watch the movie on April first, it's coming
to theaters. And the ten second video is just a
blast of very fast clips of the various characters in
the movie. And if you let it play, it goes
very fast. But if you have a keen eye, which
I think most of the people in our audience, most
of the people on this podcast might have, around the
six second mark, you're gonna see Pickman a yellow, red
and blue pin which like, of course they they're probably
just gonna pop up in the movie, as as the
sirster riggs. Yeah, but it does suggest the possibility of
a wider Nintendo universe, right, this is the.
Speaker 2: First step of that.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Rob is in this thing also,
and there have been really yeah, and there have been
people who have eagle eyed perhaps seeing things like is
that mister Gamon watch or even is that Fox McCleod
standing to the side there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they are.
Speaker 4: Going to want to build up to a Smash Brother
this movie.
Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. Yes, Mouser looks awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's even other things like oh, seeing Pianta's is cool.
Speaker 2: Like ward Ward looks awesome. Wow, this is this is
pretty good. Whatever was the crab boss in uh In two? Oh? Awesome? Sorry,
there's claw Yeah it looks great and it's claw something right, Yeah,
I don't remember claw grip, claw grip mouse claw grip.
Have not seen Fry Guy yet. Love Fry Guy, I
believe Love. I'm gonna I'm going to play Mario two tonight,
like cause you see everyone should Brothers so good.
Speaker 4: Don't use the skips. It's always fun to use the
potions to do the skips.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 4: You can't do it if you want to see Mouser. Hey, Jeff,
If they do want to do the Spash Bros. Thing,
is it like gonna be weird at all for them?
That like Sony is making uh Zelda while Universal is
doing this, or you think Nintendo is kind of prepped
all this in the I think they believed.
Speaker 5: Yes, that will be well understood, like uh, like having
spent any time with lawyers at this point, you know
that the they would like ask all those questions like
is there anything you want to protect? And they Nintendo
would be very keen on making sure that they could
do a Smash Brothers movie with Link.
Speaker 2: If they wanted to.
Speaker 5: In fact, in fact, I bet they could do a
Link a Zelda animated film if they wanted to, still
while Sony's making the live action one.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure if they has a lot of leeway
if they were to do like a Smash movie, I
feel like they would go with like a tune Link movie.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I bet it would be this Link
and he just kind of when he enters this world
through whatever master hand grabs him, he becomes a cartoon character.
Speaker 2: So I only, oh, oh, I wouldn't expect that. Now.
Speaker 5: I would expect the live action Zelda to be its
own thing, and then there is a Zelda animated version
that exists a parallel to this world like that.
Speaker 1: But sorry, go ahead, Jane, but we would see John
Legazamo is Luigi in the movie, right, Charlie Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just put there just yeah, of course,
put the past and Smash Brothers. See.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's got to be. I feel like
that's got to be the one. I think there's one.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I feel like I think if you're if your original
question was like, would that cause a headache for that
specific link, I think yes, it would actually do.
Speaker 2: Two links and have one of them be like a
scrappy though, you know, have length like a baby.
Speaker 4: But like imagine, like, let's imagine that that Zella movie
is a giant, giant hit. They're gonna wint that link.
Speaker 5: If it's a giant, if it's a massive hit, I
bet everyone involved gets it figured out. But I don't
think Nintendo ever wants to have to ask Sony for
permission to do anything with that character.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that.
Speaker 2: Would be accounted for in the language, because that's the thing. Yeah,
that would be a little bit more difficult. We'll see.
Speaker 5: I think this clearly suggests that they are building towards
Smash Brothers, which I think is the thing we all
assumed if you're doing this movie universe. Eventually you get
to that point and it sounds like they're kind.
Speaker 4: Of head I just hope they're not doing like, you know,
the thing that that the DC movies did were like
the third movie was Justice League or something.
Speaker 2: Time to build up. I don't I don't mean this
to be me.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for this.
Speaker 2: I'm not happy. I just I think, I just I
what's wrong with me? I can't get excited, you know,
I can't. The original movie was kind of mediocre, like bad.
Speaker 3: The original movie is pretty pretty stupid, right, I'm not upset.
Speaker 2: I saw it and I'll see this too, But what's
what's what's wrong? Like like we've seen Easter eggs.
Speaker 5: If that's not going to get you excited about this movie,
nothing's going to get you excited about this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's but I guess that's what I give normal.
It's just a Where's Waldo? Yes, right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like Where's Wado sometimes though, Yes, if I
was playing Where's Waldo?
Speaker 2: And I saw characters from punch Out Good Books, the
funniest thing anyone's ever said about the Yeah that got
me you good reads?
Speaker 3: You know before I open my mouth just now. I
said it in my head, and I'm like, should I
say this out loud? And then truth people chatter agreeing
with you, by the way, like yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Fine, immis to be excited about the where's wado aspect
of these movies. But it's all we got.
Speaker 3: It's all this My comment is not a criticism on
your enthusiasm at all, Like I wish I could feel that.
Speaker 2: I guess like they've been interested in seeing this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this like a couple of weeks ago.
He's just sort of like, oh, that's coming out cool, right,
my kids very much like we cannot wait to go
see this. So that really helps like flame my excitement.
And then I look for something to be excited about,
and it's like, oh, I'll get to see Mouser, which
is not something likes Mouster's my boy. Like I'm I'm psyched,
like we got a lot in common.
Speaker 2: I relate. I get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just And and then when when I was thinking,
I was like, oh, man, is there something in this
world that would do for me what perhaps it is
doing for many Maybe No, again, that is that is
a terrible thing have a very complicated relationship with me lately.
Speaker 4: It's a pinball machine for like a franchise that you're
really excited about.
Speaker 3: You get excited, right, yeah, yeah, I mean like I
wanted to get that Beetlejuice pinball, but like that came
and went and it's like, all right, I'll guess I'll
just find it in the wild and like, yes, yeah,
my least favorite Safty brother God damn it.
Speaker 2: I like to eat.
Speaker 4: The Eagles wrote a song about this. You're you're losing
all your highs and lows and funny how the feeling goes.
Speaker 2: You get excited about, Like you go to a restaurant
you like and the meal comes out. How do you
feel about that? When they put the plate down? You're hungry?
And I definitely like going out to eat, for sure,
I'm a big going out. You get excited about like
when the food arrives, excited, like and I started going
just say yippe or anything.
Speaker 1: But you know, you ever like smell a pie and
then you start floating and moving towards the actual pie.
Speaker 2: Gross or the weekend's coming up and you got some
fun plans right now. That doesn't do it for me. Anymore.
I think it.
Speaker 3: I think when I get through the hockey rink, I
get a little excited. When I smell the Zamboni exhaust,
they get a little sure.
Speaker 4: I mean that's something in general with getting older, is
like you don't reach those super high It's like I
sometimes just think about, man, nothing has ever felt better
than being a kid. And it's the first, like day
of summer. You just got out of school, right, it's
the last day of school. That was the best feeling. Sorry, Flower,
the best feeling ever.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Glad you didn't see his dumb
ass face in this trailer. Yeah, I got excited when
this motherfucker showed up at my door like twenty times
a day. No, I know that.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 2: You know I get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think like there's yeah, but Mike, the
things you're describing are like are like moments of uh no,
moment of like childhood wonder right, Yeah, Like, oh, there's
nothing better than like coming home on a Friday. There's
nothing better than like no homework. There's nothing better than,
you know, finding out you have some sort of assembly
surprise or something like that.
Speaker 2: This guy, again, this is not a call for help.
I'm just I just want to talk a.
Speaker 4: Normal I mean, it's even like with me, like there
was a time where I would look forward to specific
games so much that I would literally just be buzzing,
and like even like going to get the game would
be the most exciting thing. Maybe part is just the
way I get games often now, which is a code
in my email and.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's not like, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, I just got the code for the new resime.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2: No, that's Dan for sure. But I think like I'm
bouncing around the house all the time telling Bunk how
excited I am about everything.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, like if they did like a BioShock
again that I could really get excited about, which is
been so long.
Speaker 2: There'll be a big daddy in the Mario movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right now, I mean Bowser is a
big daddy.
Speaker 2: He's not the exact one I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah,
well but look, resid Eevil did it for me for sure,
so I guess I.
Speaker 1: Think maybe, Uh, the video game industry hasn't been serving
Jeff Backler food lately, you know, like you just think
you're you're at like the Revolving Sushi place and none
of the roles you're speaking to you, you know, yeah,
like I'll eat them all exactly.
Speaker 2: None of them are like giving me the feelies exactly.
Speaker 1: You're waiting for like the BioShock plate to roll around,
or yeah, the spook plate.
Speaker 5: And it's weird back because it's so easy to be
happy in this world right now that it's just it
does speak to a failure review. I think, yeah, because
everyone's walking around so cheerful all the time right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do seem to be on the opposite
end of that, the one outlier, one voice of dissent. Weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, when's the last time you skipped?
Speaker 5: You might hurt yourself. Careful, I've not skipped in a while.
Jan Yeah, I'm gonna go out there. I'm gonna see
if that helps me because Jeff's gonna be up broke
my ankle.
Speaker 3: I got I take it back. There was a moment
two weeks ago when my new hockey sticks came in.
There were flylights and I was really excited.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. So you know, maybe like maybe
streamers will start to do this. Instead of like a
hydration check or standing check, we'll do a whimsy check. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
like when if I send all y'all confetti or glitter
and then when it's the whimsy check, I'm just like, yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 2: Again the card poppers to meet and I'll handle it
for ye Sorry, I'll be excited at don't don't don't,
don't hold that thought up. Don't come to packs and
be like I'm gonna see fucking Jeff. Just know I'm
gonna be That might be what the people want.
Speaker 5: It's never around, but I think backlars seem like a
good mood, like when we're hanging out.
Speaker 2: I got that guy.
Speaker 1: I can show you a cartwheel in person. I learned
how to do one recently.
Speaker 2: Could you do a handless cartwheel one of those around?
Of course not. I just learned how to do it
with two a ns you wants, you have a couple
of weeks, but get it. Learned. This guy, this guy
putting our chat here, the little wooden guy. I'm trying
to like place him to see from likes. I think
he's from steam Gardens and oh yeah yeah wooded Kingdom
of Odyssey right with a really good guitar track guitar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not recognizing the I believe that the snail
with a mustache.
Speaker 2: Who's that is that? As cargoon? There's a straight up
snail with the Yeah, who is blackjack dealer? Koopa?
Speaker 4: I think so. In the trailer the area with all
of the Mario two stuff looks like a casino, So
I think he's going to be from that.
Speaker 2: They're going to camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that snow was he from the lake
or the beach Kingdom?
Speaker 2: And honestly, it.
Speaker 3: Sure's a lot of in this Oh yeah, well that
makes sense. I think the Odyssey is the is the
newest one?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But what everything's the Mario? H they are? They're
plating everything, that's for sure. Yeah, there's a ton of
stuff here.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. How excited Brie Larson is to be a
part of this movie.
Speaker 2: She's infections?
Speaker 4: Does she still have her freaking stupid NFT profile picture
on X I haven't looked in a long time.
Speaker 2: I don't know the embarrassing Yeah, shy guy was in
the first one. Why are they making it?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: Right? Look? Someone is Mario?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean guy is one of the few that escaped
Mario two purgatory and got into the wider market, like
Shy Guy. To a lesser extent, Sniffet and Hokey have
been popping up and other things. Outside did pretty well
playable character in some games. Yeah, but the rest of
like Burder is a mini boss, all the like actual bosses,
the Mousers, the fry guys and stuff, never really is
especially Warren. You know, war is huge. It's a big deal. Yes,
I cannot believe we're getting Warton in this movie.
Speaker 1: Louise use such a good Have we seen the bird
doors in any other Mario game?
Speaker 2: No, those guys are fucked. I love those bird doors.
Some of them are evil though, and they're like I
learned to not trust them because like one of them
comes flying off and it's you. It's like you can
never trust the end of the level. It's like it's
a flagpole like bird doors. Okay, those things right?
Speaker 4: Well yeah maybe that maybe. I bet there's a good
chance that the entrance to this casino that has all
the Mario two stuff is going to kind of look.
Speaker 2: Like that bird the entrance or the exit. Yeah, the
way they get entered, the way they get out. Someone
makes a good point. Bob Omb came from two and
they were already part of the cannon and three. You know,
they're all over the area. Probably was in two.
Speaker 4: First, I kind of forget that that's what Obama was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hop on it. Yeah it's in the
but it's in the Bob Hoskins movie.
Speaker 4: About the game two. Yeah, yeah, but that's right. You
know what, I liked the finale of that movie. I
thought it was fun with the bomb kind of going
around the long lay Me too.
Speaker 2: Had it is? Yeah, I enjoy it. Uh, the Maaya
statue with the sunglasses. I love that guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have the We do have the the robot
like Maids from Galaxy as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, we should make Clunker guys, they should make a
Warrior Weare movie. Yeah, that's just like I think you
should leave Sketch. That's like the Steve Jobs movie where
he's just like getting his team to make him video
games or something like that and in a whip.
Speaker 5: All right, last couple of stories here. Kope is doing
very well. Two point two million copies sold in the
first four days. Yeah, this is it is like one
of the fastest selling or I think it's the fastest
selling Pokemon spinoff by far. And it sounds like it's
just getting started. I think the comparison point that people
made was there was a similar game that launched at
this point in the switch Ones lifetime that went on
to sell like thirty million copies or something like that.
Speaker 2: So this is going to do very very well if
it has if it follows anything close to what Animal
Crossing did, which it could. What what happened when? Why
did people yell about getting a new Pokemon Snap for
like fifteen years and then they got it and no
one ever talked about it?
Speaker 4: I feel bad about that personally, actually, Dan, it was right, Yeah,
I never I never touched it, and I was one
of these people like, mak no Pokemon Snap. Then they did.
Speaker 2: I was like, I have no time for this.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just love the idea
of a Pokemon Snap and forget that it is an
on rails game.
Speaker 2: It's not you're living in the past. Just not.
Speaker 4: And then okay, like that, sorry, like to give your
idea of how well this one's doing. That game sold
like maybe a couple million copies New Pokey over its lifetime,
so this is probably already sold more than that, yeah,
or well on its way for sure.
Speaker 5: Microsoft reveals next gen console details, something that happened at
GDC as well. Although it's a lot of stuff we
kind of were exupecting. It's Project Helix. That is a
Helix as in it's bringing together the PC and console side.
The console Xbox stuff will be backward compatible. It is
going to be a PC though, so it'll be able
to play PC games, you'll be able to get other stores.
They are getting an AMD custom system on a chip.
It's going to have next gen ray tracing performance. They're
really focused on the upscaling stuff, very similar to the
things that are happening on PS five pro right now,
but there'll be even better implementation, and they're like an
order of magnitude performance improvement to the ray tracing. That's
still sort of their big focus in the buzzword category,
where they're like, how do we make this thing exciting?
And you know, I think that they are weaning themselves
off of consoles with this thing where it's like, let's
try to make something that it's okay if it only
sells fifteen million units, because how do you get people
excited about spending one thousand dollars on something that has
better ray tracing? No one cares about that, Like they
just the vast majority of people do not get They're like,
they think their games already look very good, and what
is the difference.
Speaker 2: What do they get from ray tracing a little bit
better lighting? It's not going to move the needle. So yeah,
they at the very least, though, are out there making
the gestures and gestures and talking about this in a
way where it's like, this feels like they're building up
to a new console launch, just like they always have.
So they're presenting themselves as taking it very seriously. How
do you guys feel about this at this point after
like they try to make it feel a little bit
more real with these conversations around GDC. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't have the most confidence, especially just talking about
newer generations of consoles when I feel like I haven't
gotten the most out of this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's actually do this one last story. I didn't
mean to put this on the rundown and just forgot.
Yeah the Sumnautica thing, you see this, Yeah you can
do that. Yeah, well apparently you can't do it.
Speaker 5: So the Sonnautica devs made sub Nautica two and they
were about to release it. One little wrinkle there is
that in the meantime while they were making that game,
they got acquired by Crafton and craft It's like, Hey,
if that game comes out and does really well and
meets this threshold, we're going to give you guys at
this studio a two hundred and fifty million dollar bonus
that you could distribute throughout the studio, with a big
portion of that going to the executives. The game was
certainly going to meet that threshold. All the numbers internally said,
this game is coming together, it's basically finished. I'll say
that I heard that it was finished from people who
were involved in the game and that it was looking good.
And then suddenly the executives at the studio got fired,
and everyone's like, wait, what's going on here? Like oh,
because they're dragging their feet and not getting the game done.
It's like, no, the game's done and ready to go,
So what's really going on Here's apparently what happened. The
guy at Crafton the CEO was like, I don't want
to pay.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty million dollars to these people, even
though they're going to do exactly what I asked them
to do to get that bonus.
Speaker 5: Hey, lawyers, what can we do to get out of it?
And the lawyers are like, nothing, you're gonna have to
pay this. So he went to his other lawyer chat
GPT and said, Hey, what can I do to not
pay two hundred and fifty million dollars and chat you
He's like, don't worry about I got this. Just claim
that they did that and fire him. And the lawyers
are like, oh, wait, what are you about to do. Please,
for the love of God, don't do that. That's super
not legal. You're gonna get in a lot of trouble.
The guy trusted chat GPT instead and did exactly what
it told him to do. Fired those guys, made public
statements about their lack of quality or whatever, and a
judge has asked that guy to reinstate the head of
that studio because he illegally fired them and broke the contract.
He's gonna have to pay two hundred and fifty million
dollars and all that just buffoon behavior, really baffling stuff.
Speaker 1: Just when you think you've heard it all, backler, can
ask you for a favor?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you hit me with a dumb bitch O?
Mass bitch. Yeah, how you earned that? For sure? This
is Uh, that's it. That's that is that is on
a level I was unaware we could achieve.
Speaker 4: It's it's staggering in its depths of newness.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, really just baffling behavior that anyone in charge
of anything could, Like you pay lawyers for a reason,
but you really you really believe GBT that much?
Speaker 2: Oh you shouldn't. Uh and here's the proof of why
you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but it's it is the most staggering thing,
but also like simultaneously the most believable thing.
Speaker 2: It's not surprising.
Speaker 5: Like if you, if you like get to talk to
any of these guys in those kind of positions, a
lot of them.
Speaker 3: Totally completely drunk with their position of authority and have
no qualms about, you know, just doing the most obscene
and depraved bullshit.
Speaker 2: Known to man.
Speaker 5: Wow, Sonata is probably gonna long launch and like have
one of It's gonna be one of those stories where
it's like, oh yeah, eighty thousand to one hundred and
fifty thousand people are concurrently playing this on Steam on launch.
Speaker 4: It's similar to like that Slay the Spire thing, or
like Haitie's like that first game is just become one
of the cannon Steam games, right. So many people played
some Nataka, and so many people are going to be
there busting down the door to play some Nautica too.
Speaker 3: But I need I'm gonna need a quote from the
CEO guy for the back of the box on chat EPT.
I'm gonna need this ringing endorsement of like if it
weren't for this thing, I'm gonna need that.
Speaker 5: I Like, I have people in my life that use
chat GPT as like a search engine, and I'm I'm
not gonna get on your case about that. Anytime it
involves any spending real money or real time doing anything,
you better be double checking. You better be like doing
actual like read a book as well, maybe instead of
just chat GPT.
Speaker 3: I think I've said this on one of our shows before,
but I am overwhelmed with friends, normally friends particularly who
will not shut up about how much time and of
their job this stuff does for them. And I almost
immediately follow up that offering with my friend, I think
you might need to be looking for another job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to keep that shit quiet, bro, Yeah
I would.
Speaker 3: I would tell nobody about this. I don't you are
self reporting in a way that inevitably will lead to
your unemployment. I yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then Chad is bringing up something
we should mention real quick. I have not seen much
of this.
Speaker 5: People are getting very very excited about Alex in Street
Fighter six, like very you know, excited to Kenny Omega,
do work to make this character extra hot?
Speaker 2: Is that what Meg was the he's the guy? Yes, yeah, yeah,
so I guess he had hot movements. Perhaps that's what
I'm getting, like, yeah, did he thrust and gyrate? And
everyone's very excited about that.
Speaker 7: I think he mostly just did his like point at
people thing a lot that he likes to do. It
is very good. He's a good pointer that Kenny Omegan. Oh, Alex,
I might want to try that now, I do hate that.
I'm like, do I want to buy him on my
switch to version or my PC version?
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably switching.
Speaker 5: Alex married his cousin? What sorry, the story came out
and Alex's story mode that he married his cousin. Who's
his cousin?
Speaker 2: Where's Alex from New York?
Speaker 4: He's he's New York City guy, I believe. Wow, could
I don't familiar question? Yeah, Alex Street Fighter cousin Google.
Speaker 2: And she's pregnant. Oh cool. So I'm starting to say
this is just fulfilling some slash fic Mike, No, h hey,
that's the news. Back over to Chin.
Speaker 4: Have fun with that, bud Cool.
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to send some concerned emails.
Speaker 2: I'm not clicking that blue Skylin KWin No, no way,
that's scared. I'll do it. Keep that shit to yourself.
Speaker 1: We're gonna fad to black just for safety's sake, and
we'll be back with emails.
Speaker 2: These are the emails for the show. Emails.
Speaker 1: Bombcastagiant bomb dot com is the email address to send
your emails to eager and write I about any and everything.
You need a recommendation, you want a place to go,
you got questions about whatever we got you BombCast at
giant bomb dot com. And once again I've been saying
this for the past couple of weeks, perhaps the last month.
We've been flooded with fantastic emails. So thank you for
sending them in, thank you for writing them in, and
apologies if we don't get to them. We only have
so much time, and please don't write in explaining the
lure of Alex and street Fighter six in intimate detail.
Speaker 2: There's a great reaction here of Blanca looking at a
phone with a very concerned face. It's just that that's
how I feel now, Yeah, has a phone.
Speaker 5: I put the image in our chat here in our
GB crew talk if you want to see it, because
it's so funny to me.
Speaker 2: They must go through one, a new one every week.
Speaker 1: Right, he overcharges it is what happened, right, Mike from
Loveland rights in, Hello, esteemed professors of macro bombology. It's
my birthday. What are your own favorite, best or worst
birthday memories? Whichever makes for a better story. Love the show,
Love you all, Mike from Loveland.
Speaker 4: My friends made a cake out of my head a
couple of times. Yeah, yeah, that's true. December for a while.
December that Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2: Day, Okay, right there after December he celebrates that for
a different reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, re minds the day that they shot that beatle.
Oh okay, yeah, sure. Keep trying to sew those two
things together. Let's never separate them.
Speaker 2: Well, we have a birthday coming up this weekend. Two birthdays. Well,
this weekend is Jeffrey Grubb yep, and yours is next week,
a week from today, a week from Okay, I was
gonna say, I couldn't remember exactly when it was so
twenty fourth your days.
Speaker 3: Apart, gays apart, and well two days in a year,
but yees, yeah, yeah, yeah totally that would have been something.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 5: I'm excited for our birthdays. We can make everyone celebrate,
like mic does oh right, well that come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Couple a couple of years ago, I remember it was
packs was of yours and then mine.
Speaker 2: We were out there for it.
Speaker 3: You did an insane thing with gambling for you, right,
and then uh and then I remember the mine.
Speaker 2: We were all in the in the hotel lobby bar
and I we just broke into song. Everyone's saying every birthday. Yeah.
That was very yeah, yeah, it was good. It was good.
Speaker 1: I also remember seeing Happy Birthday to mikey at s
NO the Game Awards. Todd Howard is just staring at Mike.
Speaker 4: Uh huh yeah everyone else, and Todd Howard was like, yeah, busy,
he's too busy planning Starfield's next big deal C or
something I do. I did, I did, We did work
with someone once we was like, why does it always
feel like we just make these live things we do
at the end of the year, Mikey's birthday, I'm like, it.
Speaker 2: Just is his birthday. That's how it works out, you know,
there's a reason it's the same. When I turned sixteen,
it was so the year two thousands, so we're still
in like kind of height of like attitude era type doe,
and it was still a time where like wrestling wasn't
coming to Kansas City that often. I just desperately wanted
to go see live wrestling, and my mom said for
my birthday she was going to take me to Worlds
of Fun. And so me and my friend Charlie got
in the car, and World of Fun is like a
thirty minute drive from where I grew up, and if
you know anything about it, like Missouri Saint Louis is
a four hour hour drive across I seventy. So I
thought we were going to Worlds of Fun, which thirty minutes,
and we got like an hour and a half, two
hours into the drive, and my mom was kind of
looking over at me being like, hey, Danny, you think
you think anything's weird here. I'm like nope, Yeah, doeshing
seems out of the ordinary. Was like, no, just excited
for the roller coasters, Okay. When we got into Worlds
of Fun like thirty times in my life, and I
should have remembered that it's not a four hour drive.
And eventually we got almost like to like fucking Saint
Louis before she was like, we're not going to Worlds
of Fun. I got to ringside seats to raw and
so I lost my shit. And I remember going to that.
We got checked into the hotel and it was pretty
high up and had a big glass window, and I
did a swanton bomb from one bed to the other hell,
and I the momentum, I bounced off and like slammed
hard into the window, and I was like, man, I
almost died in the dumbest fucking white box.
Speaker 5: God, that's incredible, Dan, This story is like it's impress
of like how oblivious you could be.
Speaker 2: But it's like this is not even the most oblivious
you've been. Right, Where is there a color story where
you were like on a plane and you're like, oh, yeah,
I was eight for that one. But I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah,
that's a little more understanding. My mom fucking with me.
But yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, but that was a good birthday.
Speaker 3: How long do you think you'd survive if it was
like seventeen forty and they would like, say, any skill
I place?
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm very skilled at certain things.
None of them would apply before nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3: Well, just like I guess as soon as they decided
to have like you know, civil engineering and these sort
of like you know, public safety mechanisms in place, I
feel like it.
Speaker 2: Would have offed a lot of people, not just you, damn.
Just yeah, I think there are just some natural guard
rails in the universe that'd keep me safe. Now, Yeah, yeah,
I don't think it would happen to the seventeen hundred. Yeah,
we let a whole lot of people come through, so
it's it's great. Yeah yeah, I'd be superd for my
birthday story. I've told it before, but I'll just make
a quick version of it. The sort of a little
avenger hunt that they set up for me on my
fifth birthday where they had the nes waiting for me
in the bathroom like under a Hulu. Who couldn't have
to be like it's under the rainbow, go find it
at the end of the rainbow.
Speaker 5: So I went off through my house like figuring all
all this stuff, and at the end was a Nintendo
entertainment system.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cute. Yeah it was great. Yep in the bathrooms, Yes,
he was in the tub. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All I want for my birthday is I just want
to go to the lunch buffet at the Round Table Pizza.
I've told this multiple times different significant others, people I've dated, friends,
and they don't think I'm serious because they think I'm
too much of a fancy lad.
Speaker 5: Do you even have a birthday? I don't, I think
the one. I don't know if we've ever celebrated your birthday.
Speaker 2: I you know what?
Speaker 1: I I don't know anymore because no one wants to
tell me October eleven, Buniello and I are born a
couple of days apart. But all I want I just
want to go to the Round Table lunch buffet. Anyway,
Moving on, next email comes from Tony in Todd Mordan. Hey,
GB curse not real. I don't think it is either,
I just Tony.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck?
Speaker 1: I just finished watching Digital foundryes bizarre video on DLSS
five that puts an Ai yosification filter on top of
characters and finds lighting to be more realistic and lifeless.
A lot of the comments are rightly shocked and appalled
by the blind praise of this, But I feel like
the road here was built by gamers wanting to turn
off artistic content for clarity. For a decade or so,
a certain type of gamer is always asking about the
citizen Kane of games, but also wants patches and mods
to turn off chromatic aberration and depth the field.
Speaker 2: Do we deserve this? We pave the car park.
Speaker 1: The DLSS five wants every game to take place in
all the best Tony and Todd Morden.
Speaker 4: I like the idea that this is Jeff Greb's fault.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I know that's what we're getting at, right, Yeah,
it's the moderns fault.
Speaker 5: Yes, video games are software. I think it's intrinsic to
the to the platform, to the medium. It's like anything
that software can be modified, and we've been doing that
from day one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that has been a part.
Speaker 5: Like Miss pac Man was a mod that was some
dudes in America being like, we want to make this
game more difficult and better, and then uh namco Right,
that's a Nampco thing. They're we're gonna we'll buy that
from you and then we'll distribute it. But it was
owned jointly by these people that that moded it for forever,
so that it's intrinsic to the to the medium.
Speaker 4: So so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, well so if it's intrinsic, though, I think
maybe the question is more, is it like just the evolution?
Speaker 5: I think yes, I think it's messy, right, like evolution
where we're going to try a bunch of different stuff,
and mods have sort of solidified and become a known
quantity so that we know what to expect from those.
So that does sort of shake us all that much anymore.
When people try to yes fy things through mods, that's like,
that's just those weirdos doing their thing over there, whereas
this is like, oh, codifying, it feels different.
Speaker 4: It's it's it is kind of I personally never like it. Like,
you know, Starfield, which was not a great looking game,
like one of its most popular mods right away was
better faces, And I'm like, I don't know, maybe they're better,
but I'm just look, I'm gonna give I'm gonna use
the faces they give me. I remember there was that
Half Life to remake, and that was one where I
saw some people popping out like, well, look a much
better it looks, And I thought it looked awful. I
you know, they was just making the character models more realistic,
but they also looked more lifeless and weird, and.
Speaker 2: I just I just hated it.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, and I don't know. I don't
know why it's different suddenly if like that publisher who
like paid people's like, we updated the visual and that
game's remastered. Now, I don't know why that's different to me.
Well sometimes even then, like I don't like the way
the new Dia s X remastered looks. Honest, I think
they're way off the mark of how much they're changing
the visuals there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to think about mods, they're like they're
so optional, right, so if you don't like something, then
you never have to engage.
Speaker 2: With that ever, right, All right? Moving on along.
Speaker 1: This email comes from our own Will Crosby. What this
has been sitting in my drafts for seven years, But
I was having an argument at work recently and would
love your input on the discussion. My coworkers were a
guest when I told them that when I eat a
burger and fries, I normally eat the entire burger first
and then move on to the fries. My reasoning is
I want to fill up on the delicious burger I
paid for, then eat the side. They claim that you
should have bites of the burger with fries intermittently between. So,
my duders, do you eat the burger first, switch between both,
or are you a monster and eat all the fries first?
Speaker 2: Will? I don't think about it at all, that's my answer.
Speaker 1: No, I do.
Speaker 2: I've thought about this so much, will, And thank you
for being brave enough to write in. So here's the
thing I think I do disagree, and this is just
a personal taste thing. We will if you're just seeing
fries as like, oh this side thing, and the burger's
the main event for me. When I get like a
quarter pounder and some fries, they're kind of equal, like
I like them both, so like I kind of do
it intermittently in that particular instance. But where I can
absolutely relate to you is pizza, because barring something funky
and special and gimmicky like a stuffed crust or something
where you know, suddenly the crust becomes the main event.
I see standard crust as kind of boring, Like I
don't dislike it. I eat it for sure, but I
will frequently if we're out of the pizza place or something,
be left with a plate of crust and everyone's like, oh,
are you one of those weirdo kids or that you
know you can't eat crust. It's like, no, no, that's
not it. But Will's logic applies here. You have a
finite amount of space in your stomach, right, we all agree.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so when you're eating I disagree. Oh here he
goes again on that. When you're eating pizza, the best
part is the.
Speaker 2: Pizza with the sauce and the cheese and the toppings
and all the good stuff there. So with that finite
space in your stomach, I Am always going to want
to fill it up with the main event, which is
the normal, full on bites of pizza. Get it. Then
if at the end of it, if there's no more
pizza left and it's just crust, then I'll get to
the crust, and you know, there's some extra space in
my stomach. Sure, but I'm not going to fill space
in my stomach that could be full delicious pizza with
just brand. This is just an incredibly long way of
you saying I like what I like, and that's it.
There's nothing like saying that crust is as good as pizza.
Speaker 1: Depends on the pizza.
Speaker 3: It depends on the pizza, which sounds like you're not
having a great pizza if you don't.
Speaker 4: You know, the turbo crust on jets. I'll take that,
but I just can't like that's a highlight.
Speaker 3: But all you're saying out loud is like I'm someone
who doesn't favor the crust as much. It's just the preference, right,
So that's all it is, like.
Speaker 2: The crust more than the pizzaza.
Speaker 3: There's no one going around here eating only crust and
leaving the rest of the pizza.
Speaker 2: There's no one doing that that. There are people that
prefer the crust to the pizza. I'm what I'm saying
say that, yeah, but that's not what I was getting at.
And I'm saying, you like what you like, and that's fine.
I like crust. Crust is good, but it's as good
as But you're.
Speaker 3: Just saying what you favor. You're just saying I like
the pizza part better.
Speaker 2: That everyone prefers the pizza to the crust. No, not
everyone does, but this is a completely different conversation.
Speaker 1: I think it's because, like the crust is not aside
to the pizza, It's part of the pizza.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to get mad when I was a
kid because like I was like the kid not eating
the crust. And I think it was just to try
to shame me, Like everyone be like that's the best part.
And I would say, if the crust was the best part,
we wouldn't bother putting all that cheese and sauce on
the rest of the bread. Like what are you talking
about it's the best part, you would just be eating bread.
Speaker 2: I answer, I just.
Speaker 5: Don't think about it all that much. And when I
get a piece of pizza, I ate the piece of
pizza and that includes the crust. And then if I
don't have enough room for another piece of pizza, I
will live again to have pizza again one day.
Speaker 2: For pizza. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to
optimize my stomach space that way.
Speaker 8: The thought of that stresses me out, like that is
totally I do imagine having those problems. Imagine having those problems. Yeah,
I mean what about what's wrong. Here's the question thing wrong?
List of course he's wrong. No, no, no, listen, listen,
going to say what I'm thinking. Fried foods get worse
over time, they just do. They're the best when they're
most recently fried.
Speaker 4: The burger is going to be good for a while
until unless until it gets like maybe cold, which is
that gonna happen.
Speaker 2: For a long time? Look fried?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so you want to eat the fries first
while they're still good, and then you eat the burger.
That is my order of operation there.
Speaker 2: So so all right, I mean, look, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much fries are like decomposed in
quality in in you know, four minutes.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, right, there's there's something deeper here though.
It's uh the burger, fries and soda are like a
paper rock scissor sort of trifecta thing. Sure where the
the grease from the burger and then they all yeah,
they all compliment each other and actually make each one
taste better as you go in a circle and eat
all of them, like they compliment each other in a
very fundamental way. The circle of life as circle is
talking about a burger and fries meal yes, So it's
like you want to, like get if you're trying to
maximize something, that's what I would be trying to It
is kind of perfect. Just a burger, fries and a soda.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, will stop trying to normalize yourself. Then, well
you said what you said.
Speaker 2: No, I think you know. Will.
Speaker 3: I understand you're just doing like order order of preference
in the thing and I and I'm guilty of that too.
Like if I have a plate with like six different
things on it, I will subconsciously prioritize things and like
save stuff.
Speaker 2: For stuff the best stuff or last.
Speaker 3: And that's yeah, I kind of do that sometimes too.
I'm guilty of that for sure. Okay, sorry, I do Yeah,
go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Try force make chats like air friars have rendered Mike's
point mute. Okay, so I'll just eat the burger first,
and before I eat my fries, go to the air fryer.
Speaker 2: And that's with that for a while.
Speaker 3: Hey, if this person cares that much about having the hottest,
crispiest fries, let them let them cook. I think I
like I like having burgers and fries together. I want
it together. I like switching off back and forth.
Speaker 2: It feels good for me. Do whatever you want. Yeah, sure,
this is a lunch look. Yeah, he finally did it.
He usually did it. Here an actual lunch look video.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not an advocate for throwing fries in a burger,
but if we're talking to be fast, I'll throw a
hash brown in a sausage mcmuff not above us. Sure,
juicy Lucy style.
Speaker 2: You bite the vent holes so you don't get the
lava cheese to fuck up your mouth, and then you
dip the fries in the vent hole. That's that seems sexual.
Bite the tint hole to cool. You can't do a
full bite of the juicy lucy when it comes because
it was poetry. It will mine mine, it will maim
you if you buy a juicy Lucy immediately. So you
buy the vent hole and while it's cooling.
Speaker 1: In there is the juicy lucy. The American equivalent to
the soup dumpling.
Speaker 2: Soup dumpling, Yeah, Mike, what do you think, Mike, you've
had one. I mean, I feel like there's got to
be something that's closer to being a soup dumpling. This
is just what is Yeah, the burger with the cheese
is like fried.
Speaker 4: And now you got me.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever, whatever cooking mechanism makes a burger, you do
that with the cheese inside the meat? Oh okay, yes,
is neat? That's quite a vent hole into my hot pockets.
Speaker 4: I still I shouldn't this. I still can't believe McDonald's.
I don't know what a friar is.
Speaker 2: I just shot right. It's surprised thing that. But again,
they didn't let us fuck with that because I was fourteen. Yeah,
it was there another life saving decision for another one
of the universes guardrails child. When I was fourteen, I
was at AMC McDonald's and they didn't let us use
the popcorn popper at fourteen. Remember once I turned fifteen,
It's like I've graduated to the popcorn popper.
Speaker 1: I did not anticipate Will's email inspiring this much discourse.
Speaker 2: But here we are, Will, Will, I get it.
Speaker 4: We're not friends anymore, all of us though, because of you, I.
Speaker 1: Think we'll put in chat. Oh no, my parents are fighting.
Speaker 2: What is the word for the burgers. It's not fried?
Oh yeah, right, okay, flame roiled. This is the word
like baking cookie. Everyone who seems interchangeable, but also they're not.
They they've served specific needs. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't bake a burger ever, No never, I
mean you even if you put a and I guess,
but you would get no seering or browning.
Speaker 2: Be a terribleoid to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Seth from Pennsylvania rights and Hello, first long, I'm looking
to get a new controller to use on my PC
Steam Deck. Should I get an eight bit do Ultimate
two or is there another controller you'd recommend? Also, I
want to see some type some kind of co op
series in GB. Would love to see a run of
Nobody Saves the World. Or perhaps I'll look at the
Remnant games if y'all haven't played them. Ready for the
Ripcord game on Blake Club. Text me when you get home,
Seth from PA. Oh, that's sweet, text me when you
get home. I get Seth, get your eight bid dough
Ultimate two or Pro three. I think they might be
on either, and even that have the dock, so you
could just set it on there. It's always charged, you
take it off.
Speaker 2: And immediately connects.
Speaker 5: The dongle is in the dock, so like it's not
far away, so you're not gonna go a lot of interference,
not that you would have anyhow when you're using the dog,
the DOC and the dongle. It could switch the bluetooth
if you want to use it on other stuff, So
that's handy. Yeah, it's been my go to and I've
not felt the need to like move on from it
because I've been very happy with using it for a
long time.
Speaker 2: Now, is there? Yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say
there's a dream co op thing I want to do
long term that I've brought up several times off air,
but to do it right, I'd want to do a
long lead up to it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but I think on that also on that front,
stay tuned.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, isn't there isn't there
a new Uh? Isn't there a new one? Where you
can change the the button letters? There's some crazy controls
where you can actually I think it's I think but
that might be the Pro three. I don't have one.
Oh yeah, I don't have that. Yeah, the Ultimate too.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: If you're playing they're playing on PC, you probably just
want the Xbox layout and you can get that from
the Ultimate.
Speaker 1: All right, gang, moving on along. I have pasted pictures
into the document here for you guys to look out.
Chris writes in simply saying, guys, it happened. I got
the mini truck krill here.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I want one of these Jimmy jams so bad.
All right, moving on and along?
Speaker 2: Is it electric electrical? Yeah? Electric? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mike from Minnesota, it's in hey bombers. Last week he
gave some food and drink recommendations to someone traveling to SF.
And I'll be traveling to SF in a week. I've
been there ten to fifteen times already, so I've done
all the touristy things, so I'm curious with local, non
tourist things would you would recommend to see or do
while I'm there? Thanks for all the years of entertainment.
And from a Minnesota resident, Matt's barr is the best,
juicy lucy Mike from I've been meaning to do this.
I wanted to do this for the folks that were
coming in out of town from GDC. I'm just gonna
make the end all be all list of shit that
I recommend that you see and do here in San
Francisco as a as a local and call not Callar
Microm Minnesota. You may need to put some brave pants on.
I'm gonna ask you to get on bart. I'm gonna
tell you to go to Oakland because, let me tell you,
fucking love Oakland lately. Tall No go to Tall Boys
into Mescal nothing but Martini's Backlar, You'd love it. Nothing
but Martini's and hot dogs. This feels like the bar
for us guys.
Speaker 2: They got a macaroni and cheese restaurant in Oakland that
I used to go to home Ruiny delicious.
Speaker 1: Also, they do the thing that I like because you know,
it's it's it's been a hot minute since I looked
at the clock and seeing that it's shot a clock.
But they sell cheeky's over there, which are just a
little curated shots, so it'll be like, hey, this is
like a Fernette Jack and coke delio and you can
just throw that back.
Speaker 2: That's a smart idea. Hey, hey, Grub, you're good at
this type of tinkering stuff. Can you work with me
to hack the talk with Flower to just instead of
saying it's pre built things, to just randomly say shot
a clock.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've already looked into seeing if it's been
hacked by anyone.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm way ahead of yell. As soon as
that gets cracked up and we'll do it. Jane having
to take shots and noon because of flower told is
very funny. Don't tell me.
Speaker 1: Last email from UH for the show comes from Marlin
and Fargo. Sorry, just stunlocked me thinking about a flower
telling me what to do. Hey, gang, A Giant Bomb
Fighting game is coming out. The roster is every GB
employee past and present. Standard edition is seventy, but the
Dude Edition is one hundred dollars. It includes all the
DLC consisting of six new fighters from the GB extended family,
a handful of new skins for the existing roster, one
new announcer. What are you filling those slots with to
get me to cough up in extra thirty clams?
Speaker 2: Peace? Marlin and Fargo. First two come to mind, Dave
Lang and Mary Kish. I just thought of Mary. I
don't know why Mary should be in a fighting game.
Mary would be, you know, the announcer, to be the
wind bag, that would be you should put Mike Maharty in,
but as a assist trophy. Sure he comes in and
just kind of like Michael Skin. Anyone could dresses Mike Maharty,
he's a b fighter. Yeah, we should have Nikki. There
could there be an echo fighter of me.
Speaker 4: That's a j Yes, that's good, Okay, I like yeah,
Palette swaps, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Handful of new skins. I mean there's all the Blanke
club skins. I think, guys, we have to follow the trends.
Speaker 2: We got big.
Speaker 4: It's just gotta be us and skimpy.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's what makes the real money. The Omega mo caps
all of us. Yeah right, oh, hell yeah. One of
us got to bite a bullet and marry our cousin.
Speaker 4: So who is, right, the hottest cousin? That's an episode title. Yeah,
I don't oh man.
Speaker 2: All right, who's got the hottest cousin? I'll Mary Texas,
Samoa Joe. I feel like that would be unfair to
everyone else. What's Joe's cousin?
Speaker 4: Oh, the other.
Speaker 2: He's very fixated on cousins.
Speaker 1: Mike, I'm scared now to ask you about super chanes.
But folks, that does it off for emails, bombcasta giant
bomb dot com email dress.
Speaker 2: Broadway Taco and Grill is the name of the place
in Chinatown. There you go. Everybody, go get your nine
dollars burritos. Oh, Alex Boniello could be a guest character.
Guest character.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, god, the combination. If this is a tag
fighter in my head, it's a tag fighter of some
Moa Joe and Kayla unstoppable.
Speaker 2: Oh and if it's like three v three you have
Mary Kish as part of that. Just juzzes.
Speaker 4: All right, we got quite a few here, starting with
a Menati.
Speaker 1: Sorry, hold on one second. It should instead of a
fighting game, it should just be like a Sonic Heroes.
But you pick your trio.
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, Minate's Fruit and Porium says, any of you
noticed the copy of Mega Man eight hidden in the
closet and resume will requiem Zombies have good taste, almost
as good as our taste and fruit. Oh, I definitely
noticed the copy.
Speaker 2: Of Mega Man eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was in one of the lockers.
There's like a bunch of Capcom games and like I
once I noticed or somethings like there better be a
Mega Man in here something. Then I noticed Mega Man
eight and I was happy.
Speaker 2: Do you guys find a weskers picture of Rebecca Chambers
in the library. Ye sure?
Speaker 4: Did I mean that that picture was in like original
residubal too, even so it keeps showing up. Yeah, yeah,
or at least it was in the remake. I definitely
remember it in the remake, even Beatty says Jurf messages
ce last week monthly sub on Giant Palm until I die.
I'm the same age as you, fifty one, so that
might be soon.
Speaker 2: Love you guys. Oh you're gonna die? Okay, h yeah,
everything about that is great, Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you that someone asked, did you
see the Tofu in the Raccoon City Police Department? I
saw it, and I feel like, I look, it's funny.
I feel like that Easter egg was maybe a bit
in your face for how ridiculous that was, Like that
should not be something that happens on my first playthrough.
Speaker 2: I heard this from a couple super fans of Ari
that I know, and I think that might be you
might be taking resid evil too seriously. If that upsets you,
you don't set me, but like, explain it to me.
So there's a there's an Easter egg where outside a
window you see Tofu, who's like a hidden character. From
old ass resid Eval games. Okay, he's just kind of
like walking around outside the police station and this's a
goofy thing that's it's like, what's the problem, It's unrealistic.
It's the.
Speaker 4: Just in a pretty tense part of the game. It
just felt like it felt like I got the dog
ending in Silent Hill too. It was that levels of
silliness and there's a lot of steps I have to
do to do that, and just all of a sudden
there's Tofu kind of like I saw this Tofu walking
around like five times.
Speaker 2: I think I lean.
Speaker 4: Towards Dan on this one, where it's like the silliness
of Resident Okay, but now on games Set the praising
of this for me, like I like the silliness of
Resident Evil. This is just a sentient, a block of
Tofu very loudly sneaking around during an entire section of
the game, Like I get the joke, all right, it's
a bit much, I get, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 9: Dan is right, dance right right, oh, thank you every
oh never for me, just no suave music saying it
says anyone play Resival Guidan On Game Boy Color, he
plays Barry looking.
Speaker 4: Like Chuck Norris, which controls like a golf game. Verbis
are by kind of cool, nice pixel art.
Speaker 2: Love you all. Thanks for the pods. I we did
it for for extra life. Yep, that's right. Yeah we
can play it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would like to play some more of
it someday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I love Barry. I'm a big Barry fan. Bearry's
awesome blade Runner, says I'm behind. But thank god for
you Grub for highlighting that Dusty Baker invented the high five.
Speaker 2: I'm here for you, Bud. Yeah. I mean, once I
learned that fact, I can't never stop thinking about it.
It's like that's that I watched it.
Speaker 5: That guy managed baseball games in my lifetime. The guy
who invented the high five was just walking around the
same time as me.
Speaker 4: That's CRAZYGS Migsy, says Jeff Beckler.
Speaker 2: Please invite mcmuscles to the Giant Bomb cast.
Speaker 4: Look, I I've wanted to make contact with Matt mcmuscles
or some kind of Giant Bomb content for a while now,
and he added me on Blue Sky not too long ago,
so that was exciting. So like things are happening there.
I think that Matt mcmuscles is a cool dude, Dan,
you'll like him. He likes uh like classic professional wrestling,
a ton in old video games. I think YouTube would
have a lot in the comic talk about. Yeah, yeah,
he's a big fighting game. He's YouTube man. Yeah yeah,
he's a YouTube man. But you know he's he's great.
He's he's in the I bet iyepatch Wolf and him.
I have done stuff for like he's in that orbit
I believe, right.
Speaker 2: Oh so okay, yeah, yeah, he's a cool dude. I
want to get I want to get Matt mcmuscles for sure.
Speaker 4: Uh he does those what happened videos that are those
are about his most famous ones, talking about like troubled
games or weird games, like how did this happen? All right,
Mixey says, tomorrow is blakkert day.
Speaker 2: Woots.
Speaker 4: That's right, the blightning round blinked and you'll miss it everybody.
In fact, you should get there super early just to
make sure you don't miss him blazing through this game.
It could be done any second.
Speaker 2: There it is.
Speaker 4: There's an Amazon package.
Speaker 2: He doesn't docks himself either. Good job, Dan, that's a pro.
Here's the game. There it is there you go.
Speaker 4: Our first This is the first time we sent somebody
a Super Nintendo game for Blake Club.
Speaker 2: That's exciting. Yeah, so I guess I'm shoot Super Nintendo. Yeah,
we'll go to the retro tank, right.
Speaker 5: That's exactly why we were doing the Blightning Round too,
because it was like, we're like so many Super Nintendo games.
They are, they're bad, but they're often too short, and
this is why we want to have Blightning Round.
Speaker 2: This is Yeah. I'm so worried now because I made
the guess. I don't know if you were there, Grub,
I was pretty sure it was Wayne's World for sn
e S. And now I'm not so sure. And I
don't even know, honestly what it could be. I don't
know if like I've looked up a lot of worst
games of all time, I don't see this and the
ass pop up a lot. You're not far off. Whoa
not Home Improvement, Home Improvements longer. I don't think it's
home Stop trying to, stop trying to I think it's
gonna be a license SNS game. It's tomorrow, tomorrow. I'm
sitting here in tooth pain that I'm delaying for three
weeks to pain.
Speaker 4: That's true, says Tomorrow Is. Oh, no, that one read
bigs He says Dan Reichert. Will there be a mcgruber
watchcast with VC? I mean assume who's VC in this case?
Speaker 2: Do you see Virtual Company Venture?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever watched mcgruber with him. No,
we definitely talked about it now, I don't know if
I've saying it with them. No, I got to say
what to investigate? This makes, he says Mike manaughty. Will
there ever be Giant Bomb garbage bags at the store?
Speaker 4: I think I could say, well with a certain degree
of certainty, that there will not be any Giant Bomb
branded garbage bags available on the store.
Speaker 2: Products.
Speaker 3: Yeah, never say never, you know, come on, open minded
and all.
Speaker 4: That zombie porn, says is Sean playing that new Quantic
Dream game? Is there a new Quantic Dream game?
Speaker 2: Always that the multiplayer one?
Speaker 4: What they made a multiple In my mind, they're just
prett tending to work on that Star Wars game right
like five years or whatever, and I have done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a multiplayer one. It's a mobia.
Speaker 4: They made a mob right, yes, from like a month ago.
Oh that must not be doing well.
Speaker 2: Spellcaster's Chronicles, What that name sucks? That's real bad. Wait,
Spellcaster Chronicles, that's the chrontic dream Moba apparently that sounds
like that should have been the name for Do you
remember when they made the fake E three trailer like
fifteen fucking years ago and it was a wizard doing
a look like casting a spell in front of a
cauldron and all that. I don't remember. It looks so
stupid and like it was supposed to be stupid. It
was like either a tech demo or a like rug
pole thing. It was just like, oh, it's actually this
is the game that sounds like it should have been
called Spellcaster. It's like extra bad.
Speaker 4: Now when you're free to play, game doesn't even get
the kind of high guard attention, right, you don't even
get the decorative attention right.
Speaker 2: You're just completely ignored.
Speaker 4: It just completely just can't man, this thing looks weird.
It looks like from like ten years ago when people
are trying to make third person Moba is more of
a thing. Especially weird now that we have that valve
one that is, you know, kind of taking this space.
I don't know, I normally be like we should try it.
I don't know if we need to try. It's an
early I'm good whatever. Then Bobby hot Dog says, d
O s S stands for dukie lace side salad n
T why. I don't know what the ntify apart meant,
but I like doukie lace side dookie means poop.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I learned that the one of one of us is
the hot cousin who.
Speaker 2: I may beat you Jan the target of a cousin
of an Alex. Oh, we got to get off this.
I'm scared now.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Zacycy Zacy says, I'm pretty sure Dan has to play
another Blake Club game before the Rip Rip Chord game
because of this is the Run.
Speaker 2: I don't make the rules.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Oh look, we didn't caudify Dan, remember you during
this is the run, You're like, we should make it
a rule so that if you lose the first question, uh,
you have to immediately played extra blank Club game and
then like five minutes later. But me and were like, no,
that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: We don't want to do that. And then of course
you you were the first one to do that immediately.
It sounds like that was probably said in just.
Speaker 4: And then Andrew Panton says, do you have any launch
reactions of Risie and I procopia. I searched launch, look,
it can only find slay the spire. I know it's
confusing branding.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: If only we could kind of normalize everything and just
have one umbrella term for at all.
Speaker 2: I just want Mikey happy. That's all I care about.
Same the umbrella term for everything isn't the problem. The
umbrella term itself. That's it for the super chats, thank you? Yeah,
oh boy? But and that almost does it for the
show once again.
Speaker 1: Gang, We're going to be at packs East next week
our panel schedules. I believe I have a job down here,
but we will be there at Packs East. And if
you're still looking to get tickets to PAX East, your
premium member heads at the Behind the Scenes channel. You
can get fifteen percent off and enter in a raffle
for two free tickets to PAS East.
Speaker 2: We'll draw the.
Speaker 1: Winners tomorrow morning, Wednesday Friday, Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Three forty five pm Eastern Time at the Creator Stage.
We will be playing with you, the folks at home.
We got prizes to give to you. We'll also be
doing it again on Saturday, March twenty eighth, eleven thirty
am Eastern, also at the Creator Stage, and then the
main event, the official Giant Bomb Panel with friends, one
of those friends being Vincent Caravella, is at four pm
Eastern at the Albatross Theater. Maybe the whole time I'll
just be doing cartwheels.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Boys anything else. We got to plug yes, a.
Speaker 4: Little bit later today at about four pm Eastern, Accent. No,
I'm going to uh be looking at some games made
from Ireland that are being featured on Steam right now
in celebration of Saint Patrick's Day. Uh so, Yeah, in fact,
I believe one Alexi Luddy is going to be join
me as well, maybe some of some other friends here.
But yeah, there's a couple demos or some interesting game.
One involves pinball. One involves pinball, so that's going to
be fun to see. But yeah, I'm gonna check out
some Ireland games to celebrate the holiday. That's at four
pm Eastern, so stay tuld.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Games Morning's popping off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, right, grib.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yep, we'll be back with that show for
the rest of the week. Blightning Round starts tomorrow. Gang
Dan's Turn is finally here. Now listen. It's going to
be a one episode thing, because that's what the gimmick
with Blightening Round is is that they're short games you
can beat in one episode. So yeah, one, I'm done
and like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, should be fine. The long play that
I watched was like almost a third of the time
of the one that Virtuoso was so pretty short.
Speaker 2: Virtuoso was like an hour, right, Oh that thought I
was like two. No, it was like it was like
an hour fifty or something like that. Okay, maybe less
than half, less than half, yeah, it was like less
than half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, voice ahead.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, go back and watch Abby successfully
build her very first mechanical keyboards.
Speaker 2: She keeps writing me about it.
Speaker 3: She's very honestly excited about it. She was not just uh,
you know, performing on streams. She actually does like the keyboard.
There's a lot of suspicion that she was lying the
whole time.
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you she was not. She does
like it.
Speaker 3: Go watch the stream and then uh, if you do,
if it does compel you to go check out our
friends of Kinetic Labs. Please just use the referral affiliate
you ur l there, Yeah, that would be great and
help support Giant Bomb.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Voicemail dump truck popping off on Thursday, and speaking about
Abby Marry Me Tomadacci episode four for all the premium
folk out there this afternoon. You know, Mike, you were
talking about childhood Glee earlier in the show, and I
think it's appropriate that you got turned into a child.
Speaker 2: I didn't see. Did you get turned back into a
real boo a child?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: There, they're compromise, which I said, I don't want you
to do. That was just to turn Princess, Mermaid and
Apple into children. Also, well yeah, well you're you're a kid,
so what you say, No one's gonna listen to that sense.
Speaker 1: And then to end the week, like we mentioned at
the tip top, we're doing upf co Ops Lay the
Spire with our dear friend Bailey Myers, and then Mikey
is going to have another launch day stream of Crimson Desert.
You won't want to miss a gangu. We had a
quick look of Pragmata go up. Today We're gonna try
and get a titter in the can and get that
out to call folks at home on Mike what I just.
Speaker 2: I just did like the phrase titter and it can
I got we saw that just say I loved that.
Speaker 1: I just said titter once in a meeting and then
everyone just accepted it.
Speaker 4: That's Jane. You have that power.
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: Listen, you know I'm I'm gonna wield it appropriately. Don't worry,
gang folks.
Speaker 2: That does it for the show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see you next week for another.
Speaker 2: Episode of The Johns Surprisingly Close. You're not gonna get Jeff.
He's been Jeff's bed.
Speaker 1: That's been the flower I've been Jack Sue next week
for another episode Open Josef, Can we Love You