Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a game stato.
Speaker 2: It takes a little tangle mess with Messta to ouch
Speaker 2: baby game statoo.
Speaker 3: For good warning, this podcast is designed to take you
Speaker 3: outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
Speaker 3: Listener discretion is a vibe, Fellas, this ain't my first
Speaker 3: time at the rodeo.
Speaker 4: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 4: I'm your host of Glorable Janet, and today I'm super
Speaker 4: duper excited and stoked for the show. It has been
Speaker 4: a while in the making because we have all kinds
Speaker 4: of hoodies and things to chit chat about, and I
Speaker 4: couldn't be happier for this moment. So, without further ado,
Speaker 4: welcome back returning guest Colby and Julia. How are you guys.
Speaker 1: I'm doing so good. Thanks for having us.
Speaker 4: Janet, I'm super excited, mister Colby, are you alive?
Speaker 2: And okay, I don't know I'm alive? And hey, okay,
Speaker 2: and do you have pens on this time? I knew
Speaker 2: it was going to be a.
Speaker 4: Video running joke for those of you who are new
Speaker 4: to the show. So anyway, tonight is a special edition,
Speaker 4: I guess you could say, and it is called a
Speaker 4: love connection for a reason, because miss Julia and mister
Speaker 4: Colby have a love connection after all of these years
Speaker 4: in the podcast community. So I'm super excited to talk
Speaker 4: to you about it. So tell me how did this
Speaker 4: come about?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to go or are you well?
Speaker 1: I obviously have been podcasting for like, I don't know
Speaker 1: three years now, has it been three years, threeish years
Speaker 1: or more? And I have met so many people podcasting,
Speaker 1: and I never really like, you know, how it is, Janet.
Speaker 1: There's so many dudes, and a lot.
Speaker 4: Of them very many females, right.
Speaker 1: And like a lot of them are kind of snarky anyways,
Speaker 1: towards working with females and stuff. So I have like
Speaker 1: this short list of cool people that I work with,
Speaker 1: and Colby was always one of them, and I always
Speaker 1: had like a secret crush on him, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. But I didn't know. So a
Speaker 1: lot has happened to me over the last year, which
Speaker 1: we can get into later. But he reached out to
Speaker 1: me in July, like right in the midst of me
Speaker 1: going through like a lot of life changes, and my
Speaker 1: husband and I had already decided to separate and like
Speaker 1: go our separate ways, and he didn't know that. He
Speaker 1: just wanted to do an episode about Hunter S. Thompson
Speaker 1: and he sent me an email and then you texted
Speaker 1: me or I texted you, and the rest is kind
Speaker 1: of history. I just kind of shot my shot, and
Speaker 1: I was like, even if he brutally didn't me, at
Speaker 1: least I can say, you know, I tried, but thankfully
Speaker 1: it was mutual.
Speaker 2: I brutally accepted.
Speaker 4: So I know that Colby has had a little secret
Speaker 4: crush on you as well for quite a long time.
Speaker 1: Well, I would have never known, because it's like I said,
Speaker 1: when you work together podcasting, like you try to keep
Speaker 1: this professionalism. And he never once made any weird remarks
Speaker 1: or said anything inappropriate. So I was actually really nervous
Speaker 1: when I texted him kind of flirting with him, because
Speaker 1: I was like, he's gonna think like, this bitch is
Speaker 1: married and fucking craziest.
Speaker 4: He's took weirdo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't. And I mean, you jump in
Speaker 1: and say you're part of things. I had a crush
Speaker 1: on him for the longest time. I remember the first
Speaker 1: episode I saw of him, I remember what he was
Speaker 1: wearing everything. But I had to let it go, and
Speaker 1: I mean let it go. Ha ha, I'm here. I didn't
Speaker 1: really let it go.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you waited until you're at least semi available. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I myself was in the middle of, you know,
Speaker 2: doing the co parenting thing with my son's mom and
Speaker 2: Janet from the last time I was on your show.
Speaker 2: We kind of talked about everything there, like in a
Speaker 2: short version of that story. Someone I had known for
Speaker 2: a few years and I reconnected and one and done.
Speaker 2: She was pregnant and we actually once again broke up
Speaker 2: before either of us knew she was pregnant, and we
Speaker 2: tried to make it work, you know, to have a
Speaker 2: nuclear family type thing, and it wasn't for a lack
Speaker 2: of trying by any means. We're just not compatible.
Speaker 4: So the nuclear family blew up.
Speaker 2: It became literally Yeah. So, I mean I at that point,
Speaker 2: I was busy with work and I you know, struggling
Speaker 2: to keep my two podcasts afloat, and I had dated
Speaker 2: or you know, i'd started dating again a little bit
Speaker 2: here and there, and it was always you know, not
Speaker 2: a good fit, compatibility or just a lack of timing,
Speaker 2: and I kind of just decided I'm just going to
Speaker 2: put all my energy into my life and raising my son,
Speaker 2: and right then, you know, I I had worked with
Speaker 2: Julia a few times, and I always thought she was
Speaker 2: cool as hell. And I'm not one to hit on
Speaker 2: a married check.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, he's not one to be flirty.
Speaker 4: And I can tell you that I tried to play
Speaker 4: Cupid with him before because I have always thought that
Speaker 4: Colby was such an amazing person. And I was like, man,
Speaker 4: and he will tell you and people already probably know this,
Speaker 4: but I was like, oh, man, this person that you know,
Speaker 4: you had a relationship before, Like, she doesn't respect you.
Speaker 4: She's not the right person for you. Like I hoped
Speaker 4: and prayed that you know, he would find the right person,
Speaker 4: and here you.
Speaker 1: Go, Well I hope. So I'm I've busted his balls
Speaker 1: like a few times since I've been here.
Speaker 2: How so.
Speaker 4: I just feel like, well, you know, no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm not like the most easiest person
Speaker 1: to get along with, in my opinion, and I also
Speaker 1: feel like living with me might be a little bit difficult.
Speaker 1: He disagrees, But I mean, I'm stubborn and I have
Speaker 1: like things about me that were still like figuring out
Speaker 1: and learning about each other. But the way that all
Speaker 1: three of us think as far as conspiracy goes, it
Speaker 1: makes for an interesting match between the two of us anyways, right,
Speaker 1: And it's such a relief to be with someone who.
Speaker 4: Has the same belief systems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so like minded on so many things.
Speaker 1: I mean, we differ on a few things, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be like if he thought exactly like I did,
Speaker 1: that would also be boring in its own way. But
Speaker 1: like in my other relationship, I just felt like so
Speaker 1: unsatisfied with having to hide this whole part of my
Speaker 1: personality that was like so integral to who I am.
Speaker 1: Which sucks because when I first started podcasting, it was
Speaker 1: easy to keep that part of myself like kind of
Speaker 1: like compartmentalized and not talk about it in front of
Speaker 1: his family or not bring it up when we were
Speaker 1: around his friends. And as my show grew, it became
Speaker 1: more and more a bigger piece of my life and
Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with someone. And Kolby's the same, Like,
Speaker 1: he has two shows and I love both of them.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's incredible being able to talk about
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff with your significant other.
Speaker 4: Right and not blows about right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just being able to be myself. That's so crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I can talk about pedophiles on a Wednesday morning
Speaker 1: and he's like totally coolios. Yeah, no, it's great, And
Speaker 1: I did. I do want to clear the air because
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like some people may have a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about how we came to be. But
Speaker 1: as I spoke with you before Janet, when we covered
Speaker 1: the PCOS stuff, I got pregnant in December last year.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to get pregnant. I thought that was
Speaker 1: going to be impossible for me. My husband ex husband,
Speaker 1: and I were struggling already before I found out I
Speaker 1: was pregnant. And then I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it must be God, and you know we're going to
Speaker 1: find our way through this and we'll make it work
Speaker 1: and we'll be parents or whatever God has in store
Speaker 1: for us. And obviously I had a horrible miscarriage and
Speaker 1: our marriage fell apart after that because we wanted different
Speaker 1: things and I felt like if we did have a
Speaker 1: baby together, it would save like whatever like remnant of
Speaker 1: love I had for him, and it just wasn't. Like
Speaker 1: I kept forcing it to happen forcing things to work,
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't working. And we had many conversations
Speaker 1: and then we had like one big, huge blow up
Speaker 1: fight where we were like, this is just never gonna work.
Speaker 1: We're so incompatible with each other. And I had already
Speaker 1: started sleeping on the couch like a month before he
Speaker 1: ever even emailed me, and he had no idea what
Speaker 1: was going on, right, and my sister had plans of
Speaker 1: coming and getting all my stuff out of the house,
Speaker 1: like it was already done and over with. When Colby
Speaker 1: reached out to me, and like I said before, I
Speaker 1: was nervous to even text him about some flirty shit
Speaker 1: because I was like, he doesn't know what I'm even
Speaker 1: going through right now. I mean I had kind of
Speaker 1: told him a little bit, but he still thought I
Speaker 1: was married, still thought everything was cool, that we were
Speaker 1: just besties. And so it could have went another way
Speaker 1: and he could have been like, no, I'm not into it,
Speaker 1: and I would it'll be single and still not be
Speaker 1: with my husband. It's not you know, it didn't start
Speaker 1: with any nefarious like weirdness, And I.
Speaker 4: Want to I want to say I know this wholeheartedly
Speaker 4: because one of the very first times that I was
Speaker 4: ever on a show with you and he came into
Speaker 4: the picture and whatever. It was so like awkward. You
Speaker 4: could feel like the tension and stuff, and that's what
Speaker 4: you know when you reached him and I yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: when you had reached out to me, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, like I kind of got the sense
Speaker 4: that you guys have been done for a while and
Speaker 4: we're trying to like fake it till you make it
Speaker 4: type thing. Let's let everybody think we're happy. But I
Speaker 4: could literally feel the tension and it was nothing like
Speaker 4: purposeful that happened.
Speaker 1: It was just well, it's it's the vibe between the
Speaker 1: two of us. Yeah, And you know, I forgot that
Speaker 1: he walked in and you met him that one time.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. And you know, you've always had
Speaker 1: like a little bit of an intuition about things anyways,
Speaker 1: and I wonder like just from what I had told
Speaker 1: you about him, like what your thoughts were, but you
Speaker 1: met him actually, yeah.
Speaker 4: And that was and it was that was a long
Speaker 4: time ago. That was like I want to say, close
Speaker 4: to two years ago the first time I ever met
Speaker 4: you and and whatever. And then I was like, oh man,
Speaker 4: this is like so incredibly uncomfortable, and you're such a
Speaker 4: like vibrant, you know, high energy type person, and as
Speaker 4: soon as he like came into the picture, it's like
Speaker 4: you just like sank, like your emotions just completely sank
Speaker 4: into the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt being with him, and imagine I was
Speaker 1: with him seven years, right, So I told Colby before,
Speaker 1: I felt like I almost went through like a budget
Speaker 1: m k ultra program where I had to he like
Speaker 1: reprogrammed me into like thinking like what I was doing
Speaker 1: on my show is stupid, and like right, he thought
Speaker 1: it was a waste of time, and everything I talked
Speaker 1: about was like just utter bizarre bullshit.
Speaker 4: And I think like he acted like he didn't like you,
Speaker 4: like at all, and you kind of you kind of
Speaker 4: had the same type you know, like energy back at
Speaker 4: him after that started, and I was like, ooh, this
Speaker 4: is this is not a good situation. And you mentioned
Speaker 4: something earlier about like having to kind of hide that
Speaker 4: part of you that's so integral in your life and
Speaker 4: your feelings and what you think and how you act
Speaker 4: and all all of that stuff. And from the get go,
Speaker 4: I always thought he was the type of person that
Speaker 4: made you suppress every important part was you and I
Speaker 4: had the exact same because my marriage was like that.
Speaker 4: And he hated me being a weirdo. He hated me joking,
Speaker 4: he hated like laughter, he hated you know, me being serious.
Speaker 4: He literally hated everything about my personality. And it was like,
Speaker 4: don't be you be this person that I want you
Speaker 4: to be. Literally, never do that, because when you have
Speaker 4: to hide part of yourself like that, it's never going
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 1: He could even like me, though, like I have said
Speaker 1: that to people before, I was like, I don't think
Speaker 1: he actually liked me at all, like as a person.
Speaker 1: I think maybe he liked how I looked or liked
Speaker 1: who I was when we met because going back to
Speaker 1: like one of our first or maybe the first episode
Speaker 1: that you and I did together about like my life story,
Speaker 1: he met me when I was a very broken, very
Speaker 1: desperate person, and I needed him in that moment, and
Speaker 1: I tried to turn my feelings towards him from the
Speaker 1: beginning of our relationship into like something that could last forever,
Speaker 1: and it just was not meant to be that way.
Speaker 1: Like I did need him when I met him, and
Speaker 1: it was the kind of situation my mom had just died.
Speaker 1: Two weeks before I met him, I was drinking and
Speaker 1: crying and I was very depressed, and he kind of
Speaker 1: like saw me like a broken bird that he could
Speaker 1: kind of like manipulate.
Speaker 4: Because I was just gonna say that, yeah, because you're
Speaker 4: easier to control when you're weak or you feel like
Speaker 4: you're broken down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And imagine you know how I felt about
Speaker 1: my mom too, And I was looking for someone to
Speaker 1: kind of like be that companion in my life and
Speaker 1: he just showed up. Like, but you know what's crazy, Janet.
Speaker 1: I still, even though I was with him seven years
Speaker 1: and like it was not a great relationship, I still
Speaker 1: feel like everything that happened leading up to this moment
Speaker 1: in time, it had to be in the perfect timing.
Speaker 1: Because even before I got pregnant last year, like let's
Speaker 1: say like June of last year, if you would have said, hey,
Speaker 1: if something ever happened to you and Zachary, would you
Speaker 1: date a guy that had kids or a kid? I
Speaker 1: would have been like, laugh, my fucking ass off. You
Speaker 1: gotta be fucking joking. I'm gonna date somebody with kids
Speaker 1: when I have no kids. Like that was something I
Speaker 1: was completely disinterested in I had went on dates with
Speaker 1: guys like in the past had kids, and I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: what a shame they have kids. It will never work.
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that. And you know, they would
Speaker 1: try to like sell it to me, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: only have my son like every other weekend, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you're selling yourself to me by saying you're
Speaker 1: a shitty dad, like like that's making it better.
Speaker 4: I want you more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might as well fucking move to fucking France
Speaker 1: as much as you see your kids, Like that's not
Speaker 1: you're not selling it to me. But so, you know,
Speaker 1: I just was completely disinterested in that. But after I
Speaker 1: got pregnant, my whole mind like state shifted because I
Speaker 1: started thinking about like, goddamn, you know, I could see
Speaker 1: myself being part of a family, like my own family.
Speaker 1: And I love Wyatt so much. He's like the sweetest
Speaker 1: baby ever. He's happy all the time. He barely ever
Speaker 1: cries and it's only if he gets like severely injured,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, he's the sweetest little angel. And of
Speaker 1: course I didn't give birth to him, but I would
Speaker 1: not have been ready to step into this type of
Speaker 1: role if I wouldn't have gotten pregnant because it changed
Speaker 1: everything about what I think in value about my future.
Speaker 1: I had like a pretty shallow existence before that happened.
Speaker 1: Like I really wasn't worried about it. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to the bar and go to what do whatever.
Speaker 1: Zachary freaking drugged me out every weekend, and it was
Speaker 1: like drunk, puke, diarrhea, fucking like you know how it is, right,
Speaker 1: you get drunk every weekend and then it takes you
Speaker 1: almost like the whole next week to recover from that
Speaker 1: shit to just go back out.
Speaker 4: And get.
Speaker 1: It was just like such a meaningless existence. Really. In
Speaker 1: the second I found out I was pregnant, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're gonna pick pumpkins together, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna watch scary movies and we're gonna like I had
Speaker 1: this whole life in my mind, and it doesn't take
Speaker 1: very long for that to happen, Like it might take
Speaker 1: guys longer, you know, when their child is actually born,
Speaker 1: to feel like they're a father. But like the second
Speaker 1: I looked at the pea stick and I saw two lines,
Speaker 1: I had the entire future mapped out with me and
Speaker 1: that baby, and Zachary probably would have been an absent father.
Speaker 1: So like I had this whole thing in mind of
Speaker 1: what I was gonna do and shit, and then when
Speaker 1: I had the miscarriage, I was like, this can't be it,
Speaker 1: Like I can't stay with fucking this guy, Like this
Speaker 1: can't be my life. Because he didn't want to try again.
Speaker 1: He didn't want He was like, thank god that happened.
Speaker 1: I didn't want kids, right, And I'm sitting here completely
Speaker 1: like I've I've just got nothing left to give to
Speaker 1: him and he has nothing left give to me. We
Speaker 1: don't even want the same things. It was not it
Speaker 1: was never gonna work, right, But and I said.
Speaker 4: I thank you guys being together for seven years. You
Speaker 4: stayed together number one, because it's the right thing to do, right.
Speaker 4: It's a convenience thing, you know, it's companionship or whatever,
Speaker 4: even if it's not really a really great companion right,
Speaker 4: like world's shittiest roommate.
Speaker 2: To be with.
Speaker 4: Been there, been there, done that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: I tried to stick my marriage out for a really
Speaker 4: long time, and I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 4: finally got to play. I'm like, I can't do this
Speaker 4: anymore because you and I like don't mesh, like we
Speaker 4: hate everything about each other, like annoyed at the smallest things,
Speaker 4: and you know, like his personality disturbed me because he
Speaker 4: would get super duper drunk and do god awful embarrassing
Speaker 4: things like we went on a cruise one time and
Speaker 4: met all these nice couples at dinner or whatever, and
Speaker 4: he would get super drunk. He went out on the
Speaker 4: dance floor and literally strip naked.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, go bowling.
Speaker 4: Get super shit face drunk and so drunk that he
Speaker 4: like went down the lane with the ball fall in
Speaker 4: a fire because you're drunk, Like, oh my things. And
Speaker 4: I'm like the sober controlled person. And I was like,
Speaker 4: this is not like he hates my personality. He hates
Speaker 4: that I'm weird and quirky, and you know, he hates
Speaker 4: my sense of humor and stuff. And I didn't like
Speaker 4: him either. And we didn't like the same music or
Speaker 4: the same TV shows or or anything.
Speaker 1: Girl, how about down to We didn't like to eat
Speaker 1: the same shit, Like they couldn't even go to a
Speaker 1: fucking restaurant. Like it was just everything was a fight.
Speaker 1: Everything was an argument. But what I will say, though,
Speaker 1: like I know countless not countless, I know quite a
Speaker 1: few people who are in relationships or marriages like this
Speaker 1: who will never leave. They're unhappy, they know that they're
Speaker 1: not compatible with their partner, but they're never going to
Speaker 1: leave because, first of all, it's very uncomfortable and very
Speaker 1: stressful to leave a situation you've been in for many
Speaker 1: years to start something new or be by yourself. And
Speaker 1: second of all, it's just like you get matrix in
Speaker 1: your own fucking relationships, like you're stuck in them, and
Speaker 1: you fear that leaving it could end you up in
Speaker 1: a worse situation, so you just stay in it out
Speaker 1: of the convenience.
Speaker 4: Of it, you know what. I think a lot of
Speaker 4: a lot of people also are afraid to make the
Speaker 4: change and make the move because of what other people
Speaker 4: may think or say about them, or other people judging
Speaker 4: them that it's inappropriate. It shouldn't, uh, you know, you
Speaker 4: should never endo marriage Like I've heard literally all kinds
Speaker 4: of stuff about you know why, I'm not married to
Speaker 4: that person anymore, And I really could care less because
Speaker 4: leaving that everything fell into place, like you said, and
Speaker 4: I met my soulmate, the person I was supposed to
Speaker 4: be with all that time.
Speaker 1: And it just so happens that your situation is kind
Speaker 1: of similar to Colby, and I like he reached across
Speaker 1: time and plucked me out of my entire fucking life
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma, like I. The first time I saw him,
Speaker 1: I was a try him and he said he was
Speaker 1: an organ, and I put in my phone. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, how fucking far is organ for my love?
Speaker 2: I wonder?
Speaker 1: And I saw how far away it was. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that'll never fucking happen, Like he's so far away. And
Speaker 1: then when we started talking and I flew here the
Speaker 1: first time to visit him, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I fucking love everything about this. I'm gonna live an organ.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave my entire life, all my friends, my family,
Speaker 1: quit my job. I'm gonna do it all. Like I.
Speaker 1: This is hard for people, but I understand. And again
Speaker 1: probably because I had the miscarriage and I saw the
Speaker 1: fucking face of God while I was laying in the
Speaker 1: fucking yard bed, I was like, right is so short.
Speaker 1: And I've spent seven years with this guy who hates me,
Speaker 1: literally hates me, and I don't even like my job.
Speaker 1: My boss is a fat bitch, Like I'm having struggles
Speaker 1: like finding a reason to stay in Oklahoma anyway. And
Speaker 1: I met Kolbe and I was like, this is it.
Speaker 1: If this isn't it, then I don't know what is
Speaker 1: because and that seems to be perfect timing.
Speaker 4: That's the That's the exact same thing. Like when I
Speaker 4: met Greg, I was like, you know what, I don't
Speaker 4: care like where he lives, I don't care. If it's
Speaker 4: tim buck to Alaska, I would absolutely go there because
Speaker 4: he's my person. And I knew it. I knew from
Speaker 4: the get go, from the very first chat we ever had.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is my person. He doesn't know it yet,
Speaker 4: but this is my person.
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing too when I texted him.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, he'd be a fucking dumb
Speaker 1: ass to not want this to happen because I can't
Speaker 1: imagine anyone better for him. But incorrect me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: No correction.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, if he lived in like Minnesota, he might have
Speaker 1: had to sell it a little harder when I came
Speaker 1: to visit him. But Oregon is beautiful. It's probably the
Speaker 1: prettiest place I've ever lived. I mean Ohio, the part
Speaker 1: of Ohio that I'm from is really pretty in the fall,
Speaker 1: and you know, the leaves change and it's gorgeous and
Speaker 1: it's the perfect weather to like do fall things. But
Speaker 1: then as soon as the end of November hits, it's
Speaker 1: like six feet of snow. You can't leave your house.
Speaker 1: Everybody's in a pissed off, bad mood, and it stays
Speaker 1: that way until like February March April. Yeah. No, it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's a winter wonderland up there, but it's
Speaker 1: probably like that here too. But there's just so many
Speaker 1: other things that I love about being here. Colby.
Speaker 4: Colby, let me ask you a question. So when she
Speaker 4: texts you was kind of all like flirty to do
Speaker 4: with you. What was going through your head when you've
Speaker 4: got those text.
Speaker 2: I was surprised, You're like, holy, holy hell. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 2: backstory on that front. She and I pretty much talked regularly,
Speaker 2: even when we were like setting up shows.
Speaker 4: Right, and I know this for a fact. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: we've been going on for a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, we had each other's numbers when I first I mean,
Speaker 2: I have a flip phone and I use email to
Speaker 2: talk with people. For podcasting and right out the gate
Speaker 2: when she and I we were on a kind of
Speaker 2: a swapcast with Nick from a cole Rejects and we
Speaker 2: were covering Laurel Canyon, and we decided during that show
Speaker 2: to do an episode on Courtney Love, and I emailed
Speaker 2: her about it and she just said, here's my number.
Speaker 2: So we kind of just kept in touch, and then
Speaker 2: things got crazy for me, and right around the time
Speaker 2: why it was about to be born, we were texting
Speaker 2: about how you know he was due on the sixteenth
Speaker 2: of November, Julia's birthdays on the thirtieth, and he ended
Speaker 2: up being late. And the last time we talked, I
Speaker 2: had told her that, yeah, any day now, and she said,
Speaker 2: I just know he's going to be born on my birthday,
Speaker 2: and so we were talking about that and then I
Speaker 2: ended up texting her and telling her about three hours late.
Speaker 2: He was born at like four in the morning, and
Speaker 2: it was December first.
Speaker 1: I think that's so cute, though our birthdays aren't literally
Speaker 1: the thirtieth in the first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then Whyatt had the traumatic birth. His
Speaker 2: mom went through a lot near the end of that pregnancy,
Speaker 2: which we covered on your show earlier, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I was kind of just swamped with that. And the
Speaker 2: next time I texted her, I said, yeah, I hears
Speaker 2: some pictures of him, and she said, you'll never guess
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant, and you know, I was really happy for
Speaker 2: it because I knew she wanted to be a mom
Speaker 2: and that it might be difficult for her to conceive.
Speaker 2: And then I got a text from her about the miscarriage,
Speaker 2: and I responded with like several paragraph long texts, and
Speaker 2: at that time, my phone was on the fritz, and
Speaker 2: I found out through work connections nobody was getting my
Speaker 2: texts unless they were real short because my phone, if
Speaker 2: you go more than like five sentences, my phone switches
Speaker 2: it to a media message, and my phone wasn't sending those.
Speaker 2: And so I was thinking a lot about her, and
Speaker 2: I thought, I wonder if she ever got that text,
Speaker 2: because she opened up to me, and then as far
Speaker 2: as she concerned, I just left her high and dry.
Speaker 1: I did not get that.
Speaker 4: I thought he ghosted me too. I was like, because
Speaker 4: we talk on a pretty pretty regular basis, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, like I text him and like
Speaker 4: I never heard back, and it was like once.
Speaker 2: More, and then I got my new phone, and I
Speaker 2: got a number or a text from Janet and you
Speaker 2: weren't in my new phone. I lost all my contact
Speaker 2: Well have you talked to such and such about an interview?
Speaker 2: And it seemed to me like I get these random
Speaker 2: texts every once in a while, like how is your
Speaker 2: day going? I bet you're feeling down or ship like that,
Speaker 2: and then like you'll get some random work type texts
Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh, that's nobody, and.
Speaker 4: It was you can and wait was I the nobody
Speaker 4: texting you?
Speaker 2: As far as I was concerned, Have you spoke with
Speaker 2: phill in the blank? I don't remember who it was
Speaker 2: that somebody you would talk to and wanted me to
Speaker 2: interview or you thought it might make a good guest
Speaker 2: for my show. And it just said have you talked
Speaker 2: to such and such for an interview? And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's one of those, you know, fishing for texts and
Speaker 2: I think we reconnected on Twitter later and then you
Speaker 2: said you never responded to my last one out I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was you. So anyway, I had
Speaker 2: this weird thing happen in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: once and I ended up calling my mom and I
Speaker 2: just started talking about everything with Wyatt, and then for
Speaker 2: some reason, I just brought Julia up, and I thought
Speaker 2: to myself, I got to reach out to her again
Speaker 2: and make sure that she got my last text. And
Speaker 2: plus I had heard her on the Cult of Conspiracy
Speaker 2: talking about Sean Binney Ramsey and she had mentioned Hunter S.
Speaker 2: Thompson and I kind of had started stumbling into, like
Speaker 2: with my research things about him, and she alluded to
Speaker 2: the same thing that I had seen on that show.
Speaker 2: So I thought I'll just email her about that, and
Speaker 2: she immediately texted me, and.
Speaker 1: I emailed you back and I said, you never texted
Speaker 1: me back, asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so she gave me your number again. We
Speaker 2: started texting and pretty quick she started coming on to me.
Speaker 2: Pretty quick.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I said, Hi.
Speaker 1: This is Julia.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: Let's be together.
Speaker 2: Well, I asked her about like how everything was in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of the miscarriage, and she told me that
Speaker 2: her marriage was on the rocks, and I just said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing can be rough. It's
Speaker 2: either going to bring you closer together or push you apart.
Speaker 2: I said, I hope that if you wish that you
Speaker 2: two can you know come together and reconcile and find
Speaker 2: some common ground and this could bring you closer together.
Speaker 2: And she said no, it's over, and secretly I was like, huh, well,
Speaker 2: and before I even had time to you know, she
Speaker 2: said yeah. And then we're texting back and forth a
Speaker 2: little bit and she says, do you live in a
Speaker 2: house or an apartment? I said a house and she
Speaker 2: said oh. And I didn't know if she was serious,
Speaker 2: but she was like, what would you think if I
Speaker 2: came to visit you? And I said sure, and we
Speaker 2: started planning and I said, well, you know everything about
Speaker 2: what's going on in my life, and I mean, are
Speaker 2: you okay with the fact that you know, I meant
Speaker 2: dad and I'm pretty much immersed in this, I mean
Speaker 2: with somebody I can't be with romantically. I mean, we
Speaker 2: are very much in each other's lives having a kid together, right,
Speaker 2: And I know that's a lot to ask someone to
Speaker 2: be okay with. And she was like, oh, no, I
Speaker 2: get it, understand, And we just kind of kept talking
Speaker 2: about it, and the next thing I know, she's buying
Speaker 2: plane tickets and I said, okay, well we're going to
Speaker 2: see I guess. And you know, I think it seemed
Speaker 2: like a while, but I think it was about five
Speaker 2: or six weeks maybe after we started talking about it,
Speaker 2: that you came and visited, and I mean that went
Speaker 2: really well, obviously, and then the hard part.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough on me Jen and oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's and then he was.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't want you to go home, and you're like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't want to go home.
Speaker 2: Actually well I kind of was like, you know, we
Speaker 2: need we have some loose ends to tie up, and
Speaker 2: maybe she did. My loose ends are going to be
Speaker 2: as loose as they are for a while. And I
Speaker 2: mean she went back and the divorce was finalized and
Speaker 2: she ended up moving out, and then we had like
Speaker 2: an almost sixty day wait until you know, the trip
Speaker 2: was made where I flew over and then we drove
Speaker 2: back across the country and that was a long ass time. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it seemed to for me it was both because
Speaker 2: I'm so busy that you know, I blink in a
Speaker 2: week's gone by.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Janet, I felt every fucking moment all
Speaker 1: the time. I felt it was excruciating. I missed him
Speaker 1: so much and I missed Wyatt, and I didn't well
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say I didn't get to say
Speaker 1: bye to Wyatt. It was just like I saw him
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then we were supposed to have
Speaker 1: him again and that didn't work out that day. So
Speaker 1: I was like, damn and I missed both of them.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: For all the ladies out there that's in your twenties,
Speaker 1: find a guy who's a good dad, Panny Dropper. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, it's the most attractive thing. Kobe is such
Speaker 1: an amazing dad. Just sets my woinds Ablaze's just he's
Speaker 1: gonna be around the house for me.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 1: You know what an amazing dad.
Speaker 4: I knew because he was on my show once and uh,
Speaker 4: he's like I've got some news, you know whatever, and
Speaker 4: she's pregnant, and I said, oh my god, You're going
Speaker 4: to be the best dad in the entire world, just
Speaker 4: because he is such a beautiful person anyway and has
Speaker 4: such a beautiful, caring soul. And I'm like, I'm like, Colby,
Speaker 4: You're going to be like the best dad, like ever
Speaker 4: ever ever. He's like, I don't know, and I'm like yeah,
Speaker 4: And I just want to say this for the record,
Speaker 4: that while you know, uh, before why it was born
Speaker 4: and there he's having you know why, it's going through
Speaker 4: all these issues and she was having all the issues
Speaker 4: and stuff. He called me one night and we were
Speaker 4: on the phone for a very long time and whose
Speaker 4: name came up? Yours?
Speaker 3: My name?
Speaker 4: Your name? Yep. We were we were talking. We were
Speaker 4: having a very lengthy conversation, and he's like, so what
Speaker 4: do you think about Julia? So I'm just saying it's
Speaker 4: been out through that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He smokes a lot of.
Speaker 2: Weed though, Well, I mean the conversation she's talking about
Speaker 2: is this when I called about like what was going
Speaker 2: on with the this ses, your medication and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was before that, because it was before she
Speaker 4: gave birth. Okay, but you guys were in the hospital
Speaker 4: because she was having all those issues, right, And so
Speaker 4: then it had been like a couple of days or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I was like checking to see, you know, what
Speaker 4: was going on or whatever, and You're.
Speaker 1: Like, I've always been with him. He didn't know it.
Speaker 4: Though, right, And that's what I always told Greg. I
Speaker 4: was like before we ever met, and I you know,
Speaker 4: he flew to see me on Thanksgiving one year and
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, you keep saying you don't
Speaker 4: want a relationship, you don't want anything serious. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I guarantee that's going to change after you meet me.
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, whatever, it is not and I'm like,
Speaker 4: trust me, it is. And guess what, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 4: we have been together ever since literally and it'll be
Speaker 4: fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. And that's why I think conversations like this,
Speaker 1: though they're difficult to have, are very important because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of girls my age or even older than
Speaker 1: I am, who are stuck in these like weird ass
Speaker 1: relationships and they have the mind to leave, but they
Speaker 1: just won't, right, and they get just stuck. And that's
Speaker 1: so sad.
Speaker 4: It makes me a bad person if I leave, because
Speaker 4: I'm like giving up. I'm not one to give up easily, because,
Speaker 4: like I said, my previous marriage was fifteen years ironically enough,
Speaker 4: but it was like every day was a chore to
Speaker 4: even just get up and face the day because I
Speaker 4: was so miserable, so unhappy. You know, we didn't like
Speaker 4: each other, we didn't have anything in common whatsoever. He
Speaker 4: was one that liked a name call or put me down,
Speaker 4: belittle me. You're never going to be anything without me,
Speaker 4: You're never going to have anything or do anything. And
Speaker 4: I'm the reason, you know, for all your success or whatever.
Speaker 4: And it's like people get stuck in that, you know,
Speaker 4: in that rut where it's kind of like, what do
Speaker 4: you call that? I just lost my dream thought?
Speaker 1: But it's like you.
Speaker 4: Get so used to like being put down and whatever
Speaker 4: that you start to lose your own sense of self
Speaker 4: and your own self esteem. And well, maybe it is
Speaker 4: all my fault, Maybe I am not good enough whatever.
Speaker 4: You should never settle for someone who thinks that you
Speaker 4: are less than what you are.
Speaker 1: Well, I could feel myself slipping right, and I could
Speaker 1: feel myself giving up little parts of myself, and I
Speaker 1: just would say, like, it's for the greater good of
Speaker 1: our relationship that I sever this part of myself and
Speaker 1: just sacrifice it because it makes my life easier to
Speaker 1: be this way for him, And I mean it definitely
Speaker 1: wasn't reciprocated. He didn't really scrifice, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: you take pictures together, you get absorbed into the other
Speaker 1: person's family, and then it's like, oh, well, what do
Speaker 1: we do? What are we going to break up? We
Speaker 1: have all these pictures together on Facebook. Fucking I feel
Speaker 1: like I've lived many lifetimes in just a short amount
Speaker 1: of time. I've been alive, and I'm fucking not afraid
Speaker 1: of anything at this point. I was afraid a little
Speaker 1: bit when I was living with my sister, like during
Speaker 1: the transition between getting divorced and moving in with Golbie
Speaker 1: and I was staying with my sister. I was a
Speaker 1: little bit scared, only because I was like, Damn, everything
Speaker 1: I've ever owned is in this room.
Speaker 4: Alma.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's a kind of terrifying feeling to like
Speaker 1: be like, gosh, all this time that I've like built
Speaker 1: this imaginary existence that I thought was so important, it's
Speaker 1: so not important.
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing, though, is it's stuff, and stuff
Speaker 4: can be replaced, but your self worth and your heart
Speaker 4: cannot be replaced.
Speaker 1: Just as Colby, I've f redecorated this bitch.
Speaker 2: Oh I used to see my house. Now it's actually
Speaker 2: like a home.
Speaker 4: Do you like it?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's, like I said at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this episode, like I do understand, like maybe I'm not
Speaker 1: the easiest person to live with because I do like
Speaker 1: to have certain things, like I have a little bit
Speaker 1: of OCD about like I want things a certain way, but.
Speaker 2: I'm learning to shut cabinets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but oh my gosh, her and Greg would get
Speaker 4: along very well then, because Greg has OCD. Anytime he
Speaker 4: walked into a room, he turns the light switch off.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if I'm in the kitchen actually taking
Speaker 4: a meal, he will flip the light switch off and
Speaker 4: I'm like, can't use it a knife here, can't see
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. I put that back on. So I'm
Speaker 4: going to tell you something that you you may not
Speaker 4: realize because you're kind of being a little hard on yourself.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The reason why you have a little bit of OCD
Speaker 4: is because you had a very stressful, very traumatic upbringing. Right,
Speaker 4: You have been through so much stuff, and your your
Speaker 4: OCD is because it's like hanging on to control of
Speaker 4: things because you had no control over so much of
Speaker 4: your life, and things that happen in your life cry
Speaker 4: that that is. That is what that is? So those
Speaker 4: are things that you guys can work out. And why
Speaker 4: are these things like why is it necessary for you
Speaker 4: to have you know, all these things in a row
Speaker 4: or you know, to check the lock on the door
Speaker 4: twenty times or whatever. It comes from what your past was.
Speaker 4: So those are things that you guys can definitely be
Speaker 4: you know, that's part of your communication and growing your relationship.
Speaker 4: But Colby is so like calm, yes, and he really is.
Speaker 2: Telling me, well, I want to set the record straight
Speaker 2: about something for the people only listening. And you can't
Speaker 2: see me shaking my head when she says she's hard
Speaker 2: to live with, because I you know, I'm forty one
Speaker 2: years old. The majority of my adult life I have
Speaker 2: spent alone, but there's you know, intermittently I have been
Speaker 2: in like cohabitating type relationships, right, and she's by far
Speaker 2: the easiest person I've ever lived with. I mean, she
Speaker 2: really aims to please, and she's always so considerate and
Speaker 2: like double checking with me about everything she does, and
Speaker 2: like this is your house, did you see?
Speaker 4: That's why I said, you're being really hard on your ands?
Speaker 2: Do that? Yeah? I mean, and it's like you said critic, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I mean considerate people at their core always are
Speaker 2: their critic And like she hasn't brought any strife to
Speaker 2: my life whatsoever, and it's improved in every single way,
Speaker 2: and she's excellent with my son. I mean, she's learning
Speaker 2: to deal with my baby mamas as days go by.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that might be the most stressful part
Speaker 2: of this whole thing, is she's walking into a situation
Speaker 2: where it's not just me, you know I, you know I.
Speaker 4: It's a kid, her personality, and it's it's not the
Speaker 4: it's not the thing about, you know, being stepping into
Speaker 4: that you know, mom role or surrogate mom role. It's
Speaker 4: it's the relationship between her and the ex Because females,
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, females are very hard. If you don't mesh,
Speaker 4: you don't mesh. And females are very caddy and snarky
Speaker 4: and emotional. So you could literally be the calmest, nicest
Speaker 4: female in the world, but if the other person doesn't
Speaker 4: have that same personality, there's going to be some friction. Yeah.
Speaker 2: To Ashley's credit, she has taken this a lot better
Speaker 2: than I thought she would. I mean, she was she
Speaker 2: was shocked at first that I was moving so fast
Speaker 2: with this person, moving them into my home where her
Speaker 2: son spends half his waking hours, right, And I mean
Speaker 2: it was about like I expected when I told her
Speaker 2: she was that night I was working late. She called
Speaker 2: me irate and was just like, I can't believe you're
Speaker 2: doing this. I think it's so stupid. I think it's risky.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, you just got to trust that
Speaker 2: I know right this is this is a good person.
Speaker 2: And if I thought for a second that any like
Speaker 2: harm or negative impact was going to happen to us
Speaker 2: would do it. I wouldn't be doing this, and she did.
Speaker 2: After like two days of knowing, she called me again
Speaker 2: and said, you're right, this is really hard for me.
Speaker 2: And I mean, she tried to make this very house
Speaker 2: her home. It lasted all about a week, right, and.
Speaker 4: She wasn't she was she was no, and she was
Speaker 4: not the right person right, and she was very She
Speaker 4: caused so much chaos and turmoil in your life that
Speaker 4: you guys absolutely did not belong together, like at all. No,
Speaker 4: and you know I have very different personalities.
Speaker 2: I did something I never thought I would do, would
Speaker 2: be to try to make something work with somebody I
Speaker 2: knew that I wasn't ultimately supposed to be with, just
Speaker 2: because I thought, if there is a chance we could
Speaker 2: make it work for his sake. But you know that
Speaker 2: all goes out the window. When you live together for
Speaker 2: seven days and every single day, I mean she had
Speaker 2: seven years. I had seven days. I can't imagine seven years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sometimes seven days or even seven hours with
Speaker 4: somebody that's the wrong person. You're gonna know what.
Speaker 2: Oh, the first night we all stayed in this house.
Speaker 2: She has an older daughter who's seven, and I say
Speaker 2: older older than my son. I mean she's got a
Speaker 2: young daughter, right, And I just saw, like first night
Speaker 2: we all tried to be here, it was just read
Speaker 2: out the gate. Every possible thing that could be stressed over,
Speaker 2: every little thing was just like thrown out in the open,
Speaker 2: and it just it just kind of compounded over that week,
Speaker 2: and she ended up being the one to leave. I
Speaker 2: would have tried harder. I thought a week isn't a great,
Speaker 2: you know, representation of what it could be. But actually
Speaker 2: it was. And it was hard for me to let
Speaker 2: it go. And when I did, she wanted back in,
Speaker 2: and she especially after why it was born. She saw like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not a bad dad. He might believe some crazy shit,
Speaker 2: he might stress me the fuck out, but she then
Speaker 2: wanted to make it work, and I had at that point,
Speaker 2: I was just.
Speaker 4: Like, no, you would like to see it.
Speaker 2: Well, I really want things to be smooth, but I
Speaker 2: also know I can't be with this person. So we
Speaker 2: walked this weird fine line between it's like a big
Speaker 2: gray area. You're not romantically involved, but you have a
Speaker 2: kid together and you love each other as parents, but
Speaker 2: you outside of that, you don't. And so, you know,
Speaker 2: I had just kind of understood for the first time that, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can actually raise a kid apart from the parent
Speaker 2: that you had the kid with, and it could be
Speaker 2: better than if you were together. I mean I didn't
Speaker 2: I've always known that, but for myself, I never would
Speaker 2: have chosen to have a kid with somebody I couldn't.
Speaker 4: Be with, right. But that's life lessons, right, And and
Speaker 4: that's why when Julia said earlier like things had to
Speaker 4: happen in the order that they did for this to
Speaker 4: grow and flourish. And I think it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4: And I've got to tell the listeners I loved this
Speaker 4: so much. Because I'm talking to Colby and he's like
Speaker 4: not saying anything to me, like I don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on, and he's like, yeah, well, I got we
Speaker 4: need I need to call you. Uh, maybe tomorrow or
Speaker 4: something because I got something to talk to you about,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, Well then the call didn't come,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what the heck is he going to
Speaker 4: talk to me about? What is going on? And then
Speaker 4: Julia got a hold of me, and it was like
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. I had to tell you blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: And I felt honored and blessed because, uh, you asked
Speaker 4: me for my blessing, which meant like you don't even know,
Speaker 4: like how what that meant to me. But I'm like absolutely,
Speaker 4: of course, because you know, like I had hoped for years,
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, that you know, Colbe would find somebody,
Speaker 4: and then for you guys knowing each other and knowing
Speaker 4: each other for years and communicating, you know, on a
Speaker 4: regular basis, even though it was like business level, professional
Speaker 4: type stuff, to then get into this beautiful relationship and
Speaker 4: actually be together. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: You're everybody's small I'm in the podcast where or Grandma?
Speaker 4: Now, there's a lot of youngsters out there.
Speaker 2: You're more like an older sister to me.
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy to go the other day. I'm the
Speaker 4: crazy aunt that nobody wants to invite to the family Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny you say that, Janet, because
Speaker 1: like I I figured you knew, but you never You
Speaker 1: were so kind and respectful to me. You never said it,
Speaker 1: but I had shared with you, like a lot of
Speaker 1: things just in passing, and I wondered if you ever
Speaker 1: picked up on, like maybe how unhappy I was in
Speaker 1: my situation. But even you know, and again this is
Speaker 1: probably like an overshare. But I have to say, because
Speaker 1: we did the PCOS episode together, I broke down finally,
Speaker 1: and this is just like a follow up to that conversation.
Speaker 1: I went to my doctor and they prescribed me clomied,
Speaker 1: and I took the clomad and I had absolutely horrible
Speaker 1: side effects. I was vomiting, I had night sweats, I
Speaker 1: had restless leg syndrome. I had all this stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was literally I.
Speaker 4: Was with you, Colby.
Speaker 1: I literally had all these side effects. I was miserable
Speaker 1: for like five days or however long you're supposed to tickets,
Speaker 1: like five days. And so I started taking these ovulation
Speaker 1: predictor tests and finally I got a positive one, and
Speaker 1: that night, I like went into the bedroom and I
Speaker 1: told him. I was like, I finally got a positive
Speaker 1: ovulation test, like it's go time. And he he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just go to the gym. And I got a
Speaker 1: few errands I need to run and then when and
Speaker 1: I get back, we'll do it, and you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So I waited up and it just kept getting later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just kept getting later and later and later, and
Speaker 1: he still wasn't home. And then it was like eleven
Speaker 1: thirty at night and we both had to get up
Speaker 1: at five point thirty the next morning for work, and
Speaker 1: I was sitting up waiting for him. And then he
Speaker 1: got home. He took like an hour long shower, was
Speaker 1: dicking around on his phone doing all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: then finally he got in the bed and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we discussed this. You know what you gotta do. You
Speaker 1: know what we gotta do. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just not for me. I don't want children
Speaker 1: with you. I never wanted children with you. I didn't
Speaker 1: think the medication would actually work. This is just no.
Speaker 1: And we got in a big scuffle or whatever, and
Speaker 1: that was the night. He said do you want to
Speaker 1: sleep on the couch or do you want me to?
Speaker 1: And I was mad and I didn't even want to
Speaker 1: be in the bedroom, and so I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: sleep on the couch. And it was from that point
Speaker 1: shortly after we recorded the PCOS episode and after I
Speaker 1: was sleeping on the couch and we were fighting every day,
Speaker 1: and it was like he allowed me to take a
Speaker 1: medication and go through all those side effects knowing he
Speaker 1: didn't want to have this future with me. I guess
Speaker 1: he was like placating me or whatever. And then for
Speaker 1: him to say, oh, I didn't think the medication would
Speaker 1: actually work. I don't even want this with you. It
Speaker 1: just was like it hit me like a ton of
Speaker 1: bricks that for the longest he has felt the same
Speaker 1: way I did. That we really shouldn't have been together.
Speaker 1: I told you, But it just was like it was
Speaker 1: like a catalyst moment where we both had to look
Speaker 1: at each other and be like, why are we even
Speaker 1: doing this? Like we don't want to be together, we
Speaker 1: don't like each other, we don't want the same things,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 4: Guys like snipe at each other a lot on a
Speaker 4: right regular basis.
Speaker 1: I mean, Janet, we really like this. This was our day.
Speaker 1: We both got up at five point thirty. We would
Speaker 1: brush our teeth in the sinks next to each other,
Speaker 1: not say a word. He would get himself ready for work,
Speaker 1: he'd leave without saying by or anything, and I'd get
Speaker 1: myself ready. I'd leave for work. Then we'd both come
Speaker 1: home around the same time in the afternoon. I'd feed
Speaker 1: the dogs, make myself something to eat, and I'd sit
Speaker 1: in our bedroom and I watch Ghost Adventures all night
Speaker 1: and he'd play Call of Duty. That was our marriage.
Speaker 1: We didn't speak, we didn't hang out, we didn't go
Speaker 1: on dates, we didn't spend time together. We didn't conversate.
Speaker 1: We didn't like anything. I had to make myself a
Speaker 1: separate dinner every night because he didn't like what I
Speaker 1: made to eat. We didn't like to eat the same things,
Speaker 1: watch the same movies.
Speaker 2: That like.
Speaker 1: There was literally no compatibility between us other than the
Speaker 1: fact that we were married and we shared an address
Speaker 1: and a last name, and we were trying to make
Speaker 1: that situation work because we had already, you know, so
Speaker 1: put so much of ourselves into it at that point.
Speaker 1: But it was like a roommate situation where I just
Speaker 1: tried to stay as far away from him as possible,
Speaker 1: and that was a difficult situation. To be in. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's an equally difficult situation to like
Speaker 1: come in the middle of Colby's life, and like, I've
Speaker 1: never had to share someone with another person before. I'm
Speaker 1: having to deal with some emotions within myself that I've
Speaker 1: never dealt with before.
Speaker 2: She's doing a good job with it too.
Speaker 1: I'm really trying.
Speaker 2: I mean, both you and Ashley. I in my mind,
Speaker 2: I thought you guys would just beat each other's throats.
Speaker 2: And Ashley's a very difficult and controlling person and she's
Speaker 2: starting to see a little bit of that, and I mean,
Speaker 2: she means well, and I try not to harbor ill
Speaker 2: feelings against her, right it could be hard, and I
Speaker 2: know she probably has the same struggles with me, but
Speaker 2: we've made it work, right, And now this whole other
Speaker 2: person comes in, so they're both dealing with that and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of in the middle of it, and it's
Speaker 2: going a lot. I mean, we're having Thanksgiving together, so to.
Speaker 4: Me, I think that I think that's good though, And
Speaker 4: that's impressive adulting, right because how many people would actually
Speaker 4: extend that olive branch to do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Not many? And I mean the first day we
Speaker 2: got back here was October thirtieth, So her second day here,
Speaker 2: we take Wyatt trick or treating with Ashley, her daughter,
Speaker 2: and a group of friends and their parents. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, I don't want to speak
Speaker 2: for you, Julia, but it was a lot for you
Speaker 2: probably to like it was a lot for me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know, it was just, oh, I'm here, I
Speaker 2: live in now, I'm gonna go trick or treating with
Speaker 2: my my new boyfriend's ex and their kid and a
Speaker 2: bunch of people I don't know. And you know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't like tense or anything.
Speaker 1: It wasn't tense. It was just a lot for me,
Speaker 1: Like I hadn't been here a week yet, and I'm
Speaker 1: like jumping right in kind of which I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: Just it was a lot for me at the moment.
Speaker 4: Right because you're you've still got a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: that you're still trying to process through and then being
Speaker 4: in a new state and a new house and new
Speaker 4: surroundings with new people and you know, finding your way,
Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on emotionally.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you it's it's definitely a situation
Speaker 1: that I've never been in before, like with someone who
Speaker 1: had Like I said before, if I even went on
Speaker 1: a date with somebody and they said they had kids,
Speaker 1: I was like, baby, mama, drama. Fuck you, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that. But what the point is. It's like
Speaker 1: I was in a difficult situation before that I was
Speaker 1: miserable in and it was it was a struggle every
Speaker 1: day to stay in it. This is a difficult situation,
Speaker 1: but I have so much to gain right being in
Speaker 1: this situation, and I'm actually so so happy, and it's
Speaker 1: completely different. Like I'm in love with Colby. I don't
Speaker 1: think I was ever even in love with him, right,
Speaker 1: And it's just different, Like being in a difficult situation
Speaker 1: where you have so much to gain is different than
Speaker 1: being in a difficult situation where you're just torturing yourself
Speaker 1: day and in, day out for no fucking you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's difficult. I'm learning, I'm adapting. I'm a chameleon. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to adjust to my surroundings. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not just been seamless as I was expecting it
Speaker 1: to be. But it doesn't make me regret anything or
Speaker 1: have like doubts or anything like that. I just I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out my role in this situation.
Speaker 4: Well, and I can understand that because you know, like
Speaker 4: I had my daughter, Greg had his son, and so
Speaker 4: blending the families and trying to figure out my role
Speaker 4: as a step mom his role as a stepdad, like
Speaker 4: how are we going to parent? Like are we on
Speaker 4: the same page? Are we not on the same page?
Speaker 4: And it took a while the communication wise, to figure
Speaker 4: all of that stuff out because his ex wife parented
Speaker 4: very differently than what I parented, because I was mom
Speaker 4: and dad, you know, and it's like, you know, this
Speaker 4: is what we're having for a meal. If you don't eat,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna eat. Like we're not gonna like get snacks,
Speaker 4: junk food, blah blah blah. And and he was the
Speaker 4: complete opposite where his wife would let him if he
Speaker 4: didn't want to eat dinner, he'd just go eat a
Speaker 4: bowl of candy and oh my god, I'm like, we can't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not gonna work for me. Or you know, you're
Speaker 4: too lazy to get up and go brush your teeth,
Speaker 4: so you want your dad to bring you your toothbrush
Speaker 4: so you can lay in the chair and brush your teeth, no,
Speaker 4: and you know it's that balances, right.
Speaker 1: And it's harder for like older kids too, like what
Speaker 1: you jumped in the middle of, like they've already established
Speaker 1: like their routine and like their life and everything. I'm
Speaker 1: lucky because whyatt will potentially never have a memory without
Speaker 1: me in it, because he's so little, he's not even
Speaker 1: one yet, Like he'll always understand that eight days, yeah,
Speaker 1: eight days, seven days for me, I'll be thirty.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, your birthday is coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she announced it. I didn't know if you're going
Speaker 2: to say how old you were.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm Benjamin Buttoning, so technically I'm reting back.
Speaker 2: I'll be twenty eight and ten years. I'll be breaking
Speaker 2: the law almost eleven years. When you're you're going back,
Speaker 2: you'll be seventeen and eleven years whatever.
Speaker 1: But no, I'll be thirty on the thirtieth. I'm actually
Speaker 1: dreading it because well, it's it's very symbolic, though, isn't
Speaker 1: it Like I'm starting a new era of my life.
Speaker 2: I was glad to let my twenties go first.
Speaker 1: I'm not, well, yeah, in.
Speaker 2: My thirties as well, Like you know, I in my
Speaker 2: forties and it's I don't know. I think every new
Speaker 2: decade has been better so far.
Speaker 4: Agreed. I can definitely attested that, Yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Is really a new era of life for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm in a completely everything about my life is new
Speaker 1: right now. So it's kind of symbolic like having this
Speaker 1: birthday here with Colby. But it's like I said, it's
Speaker 1: also difficult for me because Colby has so much on
Speaker 1: his plate, and I know he's he's got to be
Speaker 1: stressed out, like he's got Ashley and me and Wyatt
Speaker 1: and work and everything else in two podcasts and whatever.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like my first priority is him,
Speaker 1: and he has to spread himself over like many different responsibilities.
Speaker 1: So I feel sorry for him sometimes, kind of like
Speaker 1: you have a lot it's great to take care of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it'll get less stressful in
Speaker 2: ways as he gets older. It might get more stressful
Speaker 2: in the ways. And then we choose to have kids,
Speaker 2: and you know we're going to add that whole element
Speaker 2: into the thing and bring it.
Speaker 4: Your cat is not happy. I just I just saw
Speaker 4: him go flying by a second ago. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 4: have to edit that out.
Speaker 2: I'll get rid of him right now. You talk about.
Speaker 1: Yourselves, I'll get Actually, i'll get rid of him because
Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom anyway. So just
Speaker 1: tell tell Janet how much you love me and how
Speaker 1: you couldn't live without me, and I'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, tell her, Hey, you should start telling her
Speaker 1: about this Stanley.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Well, this is a story that we've told
Speaker 2: many times. I told her it was her turn next
Speaker 2: time because she set in on disinfobation m h. And
Speaker 2: that episode will probably be out tomorrow or the next day.
Speaker 2: But basically, in a nutshell, Julia is a huge Kubrick fan,
Speaker 2: as am I. And we're going across country, and she
Speaker 2: said she had this thing on her bucket list. She
Speaker 2: wanted to stay at the Stanley Hotel. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, we're going from Oklahoma to Oregon.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a jaunt north. We'd ended up
Speaker 2: splitting it up to the first day. You know, I
Speaker 2: got in late Saturday night. Sunday morning, we wake up
Speaker 2: and dried to Colorado, and then the following day we
Speaker 2: drove to my mom's house stayed the night there, so
Speaker 2: Julia got to meet my mom and my two of
Speaker 2: my siblings two out of the tree or four oop,
Speaker 2: sorry Kyle, and then we Kyle, you know, yeah he counts,
Speaker 2: but so wet. We we get into this hotel that
Speaker 2: Julia spent a pretty penny on this room. It's the
Speaker 2: Stanley Hotel from the Shining and they and they also
Speaker 2: shot Dumb and Dumber there when yeah, we thought it
Speaker 2: would be. And we're on the road all day a
Speaker 2: couple of different times. Julia started out driving, get us
Speaker 2: out of Oklahoma and we got into Kansas, and on
Speaker 2: a couple of different occasions, she had to pee really bad,
Speaker 2: and you know, we'd drive and be like, there's got
Speaker 2: to be like a gas station. The loves there's something
Speaker 2: out here. And the first time we stopped for a
Speaker 2: pea break, she was full to the brim. We just
Speaker 2: found this like little farm shed with some pipes and
Speaker 2: silos laying there, and we went and found a good
Speaker 2: spot to hide the car and we both peed and
Speaker 2: then we ate Sonic right after that, and fucking Sonic
Speaker 2: that comes in later. So you know, I take over
Speaker 2: driving and we get into Colorado right at like you know, dusk,
Speaker 2: and we go through and around Denver and we get
Speaker 2: into Estes Park, which is, you know, like ritzy, kind
Speaker 2: of a ritzy like mid level town and that Stanley
Speaker 2: Hotels outside of there. So we're driving this long, windy
Speaker 2: ass road and to get there, and she's got a
Speaker 2: pee again, and I said, oh, we should have stopped
Speaker 2: in Esti's Park because I don't. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: going to be anywhere to pull over here. I said,
Speaker 2: I'll keep my eyes peeled. And right after that, we
Speaker 2: see this little outpost, like some kind of utility shed
Speaker 2: and it's got a little pull out. So we get
Speaker 2: off and I said, I'll pee too, and so we
Speaker 2: both go behind the shed and there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of room back there, and I'm standing and she's squatting
Speaker 2: to my right and that sonic fart I'd been holding
Speaker 2: in for a while and Julia starts peeing, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to cut in here, but
Speaker 2: she realizes in that moment that she has.
Speaker 1: A u T I like a bad one. And it
Speaker 1: felt like razor blades as I was peeling, and I
Speaker 1: was like dune, dune, dun and rip sass.
Speaker 2: And that fart just slips right on out. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I said, sorry, honey, and she's like not far away
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 1: I mean she's like a literally shot face.
Speaker 2: So this night is starting there.
Speaker 1: Started with the UT I and a part.
Speaker 2: And a sonic fart. No, I don't I don't eat
Speaker 2: a lot. I'm lucky it was just gas and I
Speaker 2: mean sonics, not a bad one. Like if I had
Speaker 2: had McDonald's or Taco baccle Bell, I might have had
Speaker 2: an embarrassing moment more than farting in.
Speaker 4: Her face could have been like you would have had
Speaker 4: the Taco Bell trip.
Speaker 2: We actually just watched the South Park already of human centipedes,
Speaker 2: so she gets that. So we get in there and
Speaker 2: I still don't know about the UTI, and it's really.
Speaker 1: Fac I was trying to be cute, you know, Janet, like,
Speaker 1: not have fucking health issues and shit, because we're still
Speaker 1: newly in love. I'm not supposed to have health issues
Speaker 1: for another like six months.
Speaker 4: And technically speaking, he's not supposed to shat in your face.
Speaker 4: Hey there right off the.
Speaker 2: It's preferably ever, but you know it might it might
Speaker 2: be funny in five years. But yeah, first road trip
Speaker 2: together blasting ass. So this fucking hotel is glamorous and
Speaker 2: beautiful from the outside. We're like carrying a choir of music.
Speaker 1: We played the shining music all the way up to it.
Speaker 1: We were all getting in the like vibes and stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks beautiful. And then funny enough, we
Speaker 2: talked with her brother on the phone and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I went there once. It was awesome, and she said
Speaker 2: she stayed, and he goes, no, We just like we're there,
Speaker 2: and we just stopped and took a picture in front
Speaker 2: of the building. That's what we should have done. So
Speaker 2: we go in there, and Julia had talked to the
Speaker 2: woman when she's booked the room into throwing in a
Speaker 2: complimentary tour, and we like walk in the middle of
Speaker 2: a tour and see what it's like. And we check in,
Speaker 2: We go get our bags, We go up these nice
Speaker 2: stairs with like shining type carpet and we get into
Speaker 2: the room and she goes in first. Well, she she
Speaker 2: was I didn't know what to expect. She she got
Speaker 2: the Sunrise Sweet six hundred dollars and so and this
Speaker 2: is Halloween week, which is their biggest week, and so
Speaker 2: I think the prices might have been a little higher,
Speaker 2: but still six hundred dollars for one night in this
Speaker 2: hotel room, and it's more like a motel room. You
Speaker 2: walk in and you're expecting a suite and it's like.
Speaker 1: A tiny ass motel.
Speaker 2: Six minus a microwave in the free ac was there
Speaker 2: and it was plugged in, but you couldn't turn it
Speaker 2: on or off, and it was a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of a microwave.
Speaker 2: So she's pissed. And I've been on the road all
Speaker 2: day and I bought this bottle of wine over on
Speaker 2: the coffee tables, like, oh yeah, she said, we're gonna
Speaker 2: throw into tour and a bottle of wine. So they
Speaker 2: got these paper wine cups or not paper plastic, and
Speaker 2: the bottle opener looks like it came from the dollar store,
Speaker 2: and the bottle of wine was probably like a Walmart special.
Speaker 2: She said she's gonna take a shower, and so I
Speaker 2: bury that fucking bottle opener in the cork and it's
Speaker 2: not like the prongs aren't even lined up with the
Speaker 2: edge like the lip of the bottle, and so I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just gotta pull this cork out. And you could
Speaker 2: do that with cheap wine. So I knew for sure
Speaker 2: this was cheap, and I just pulled as hard as
Speaker 2: I could. I got the cork out, but at the momentum,
Speaker 2: I slammed the glass or the bottle down on the
Speaker 2: glass that covered the coffee table, the bedside table, and
Speaker 2: it just fucking.
Speaker 1: Broke, shattered everywhere, and oh fuck.
Speaker 4: You're gonna charge this.
Speaker 2: Twelve nd putting down a deposit, which was one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, she's definitely not getting that back.
Speaker 2: And she comes out of the shower, I said, still
Speaker 2: with the ut. I'm sorry, honey, but I tell her
Speaker 2: about the table and she's like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: go on that tour. I have a UTI and I
Speaker 2: just started my period. It's just like her first period.
Speaker 2: And however, you know why.
Speaker 4: It's because you blasted her in the face.
Speaker 2: That's I started this whole thing off. I should have
Speaker 2: never said yes to Sonic.
Speaker 4: It's the damn Sonic.
Speaker 2: It was damn And so we're hungry and there's this
Speaker 2: fancy ass restaurant down past the lobby and it's it's
Speaker 2: where they filmed the Dumb and Dumber scenes.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: So we're thinking, yeah, we can get room service, and
Speaker 2: you pull it up online and to look at the menu.
Speaker 2: They've got the number right on the phone programmed to
Speaker 2: call into the restaurant. And so I'm just kind of
Speaker 2: perusing the menu. It's got like lamb chops, prime rib
Speaker 2: scallions with oyster and cheap well, I mean, the appetisers
Speaker 2: were damn near thirty bucks. The entrees were you know,
Speaker 2: up in the you know, low double digits for the
Speaker 2: high double digits. And I offered to pay since she
Speaker 2: paid for the room, and I, uh, I was like
Speaker 2: looking at the menu, going, oh, it's like two tanks
Speaker 2: of gas right there for this fucking.
Speaker 1: Day, but we're going to do it.
Speaker 2: And uh I see there's no room service on on
Speaker 2: their menu. And we're still thinking, all right, I could
Speaker 2: we could just put in order I can go down there.
Speaker 2: So she ends up. When I get in the shower
Speaker 2: to get ready to go down there, she calls and
Speaker 2: she gets hung up on and she tries to call
Speaker 2: again and it just sends her to a voicemail. This
Speaker 2: place is supposed to close at nine. This is like
Speaker 2: ten to eight, so you know we're getting close to
Speaker 2: the kitchen want to shut down. But you figure you know,
Speaker 2: got over an hour. And I go down there and
Speaker 2: the guy tending the bar tells me the kitchen still open.
Speaker 2: He hands me a menu and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: So I start looking and I don't remember who called
Speaker 2: who first. Yeah, And so in the meantime, this woman
Speaker 2: had squeezed in between me and the guy next to me,
Speaker 2: and she said, so, the kitchen's not open. The bartender said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they take an order till ten till nine,
Speaker 2: and so she said, well, the hostess just told me
Speaker 2: that you guys aren't serving food. So he says, oh, well,
Speaker 2: they would know more than me, and he takes the
Speaker 2: menu from me and he hands me. I ordered a
Speaker 2: beer to drink while I waited for the food, and
Speaker 2: so I call her and I'm like, do you want
Speaker 2: anything for dessert? They don't have food, and he tells me, yeah,
Speaker 2: you could probably get Dominoes right now. Everything else around
Speaker 2: here is closed. And so I called her and said,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about pizza? And so she orders one.
Speaker 2: It's there. I passed the delivery guy in the hallway.
Speaker 2: Best Dominoes I.
Speaker 1: Ever ate Dominoes in a six hundred dollar hotel room.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, and and probably good thing. It's
Speaker 4: Dominoes and not the uh you know one hundred, Well
Speaker 4: it's a dollar debtor.
Speaker 2: We look online out of curiosity in that place got
Speaker 2: horrible reviews and oh yeah, I mean the hotel itself.
Speaker 2: You know, until you get into the room, it's sweet looking, right,
Speaker 2: I mean it's a racket what they're doing. Nobody I
Speaker 2: take a picture in front like Julia's brother didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get haunted. I didn't get molested by
Speaker 1: a ghost.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened in Janet. And guess what they had watery
Speaker 1: ass fucking dial fucking soap in a fucking body wash thing.
Speaker 1: And they had no coffee, mate.
Speaker 2: They had the coffee was the little plastic packets like
Speaker 2: at a nursing house.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like they had a curriic with like basic ass bitch
Speaker 2: coffee and then great value coffee.
Speaker 4: And you know what. They spend like a lot of money,
Speaker 4: like in the lobby area and then there it.
Speaker 2: Looks like they left a classic but they redid all
Speaker 2: the rooms to look like a Laquenta in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so terrible, Janet. And the thing is too,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with the period Uti Dominoes and a
Speaker 1: fucking headache, and I'm like, we should watch the Shining
Speaker 1: since we're here they have one, they have two things
Speaker 1: available that are worth watching. A fucking never ending repeating
Speaker 1: commercials saying all the accommodations of the Stanley and Harry
Speaker 1: Potter Part six. That's it. You can't get the Shining.
Speaker 1: They don't have the Shining anywhere.
Speaker 4: To ren Just crazy, right, you would think during we.
Speaker 2: Have one channel that just played it, Looe, like you
Speaker 2: should at least be able.
Speaker 1: To rent it.
Speaker 2: Dumb and dumbers, at least.
Speaker 1: I was so pissed off. And then Kolbe didn't even
Speaker 1: want to give it up.
Speaker 2: Okay, I did want to, but as soon as she
Speaker 2: told me she had a ut, like I had.
Speaker 1: Half a bottle of wine at that point.
Speaker 2: At the end of the night, we were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can't have sex tonight, and then.
Speaker 4: Six hundred dollars hotel room and he wouldn't put out
Speaker 4: left empty handed.
Speaker 2: Literally we accidentally had sex in my mom's bed instead. Mom,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry twice. Oh damn no, we didn't. That was
Speaker 2: a joke. Wake we went and so in the morning
Speaker 2: we woke up and I did a little inside beetlejuice joke.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't think we survived the crash. I
Speaker 2: think this is purgatory. We can't get out of here.
Speaker 2: And I was like, let's just shower and get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: And we did.
Speaker 2: And I went and I warned the cleaning lady. I
Speaker 2: felt like I had to do that because I put
Speaker 2: a lot of the big pieces of glass in the garbage.
Speaker 2: I walked up to her and she looked at me
Speaker 2: like I was gonna assault her, and I said, we're
Speaker 2: just checking out. I just want to work red realm.
Speaker 2: She looked at me like I was blonde five year
Speaker 2: old twins. I said, just don't reach into that garbage.
Speaker 2: A can in that room we just came out of.
Speaker 2: There's fucking big pieces of glass.
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh okay, we like it, Kinky. We
Speaker 1: liked each other.
Speaker 2: That's how you get ut.
Speaker 4: I sup jets are bloody too.
Speaker 1: I actually just this is a follow up from our
Speaker 1: pc O S episode. Janet. I found out why, like,
Speaker 1: and I haven't even told you this yet. I found
Speaker 1: out why I've been having an issue with the UTI.
Speaker 1: You know what they put me on for my PCOS.
Speaker 1: They put me on spiran a lactone and one of
Speaker 1: the main side effects is UTIs, I don't even what
Speaker 1: it's called. Spirt yes lactone.
Speaker 2: Is that like spearleina mixed with milk.
Speaker 1: No, I wish it was. It's terrible. And actually it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be an anti androgen, right, and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to help you with acne and not produce as much
Speaker 1: testosterone and whatever main side effect. Uti. So all you
Speaker 1: ladies out there that listen to our PCOS episode and
Speaker 1: think that there's a gear out there, it's not talking
Speaker 1: speir on a lactone.
Speaker 2: And also, don't not stop at the gas station if
Speaker 2: you have to pee just a little bit.
Speaker 1: Hey, I almost got molested by an Indian guy at
Speaker 1: a gas station. That was also a fun part part
Speaker 1: of our trip.
Speaker 2: There's lots of fun parts.
Speaker 1: But we but it's all part of.
Speaker 4: The store, lest we please. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't last night, but this fucking guy, like the
Speaker 2: bathrooms were all closed down for maintenance, so he like,
Speaker 2: let's do this. And when she says Indian, like from India,
Speaker 2: Like this whole establishment was owned by a family in.
Speaker 1: The middle of nowhere in Wyoming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember if we were in Kansas of Wyoming.
Speaker 2: Probably Mormon Colorado or Wyoming. It's probably right though.
Speaker 1: It was Wyoming and Mormons.
Speaker 2: Well they had a little family run business. It was
Speaker 2: I'm sure that sure they do well. There was like
Speaker 2: nowhere else to stop for miles, and we went in
Speaker 2: there and the sky lets her into this other bathroom,
Speaker 2: but it was a shower room and I just stood
Speaker 2: there and then another guy tried to get in there,
Speaker 2: and he like starts pounding on the door, and then
Speaker 2: I was kind of getting ready to go over there
Speaker 2: and be like, hey there's someone in there. Man off.
Speaker 2: And then the other guy that let her in it
Speaker 2: came and said, hey, there's someone in there.
Speaker 1: He still kept beating on the door.
Speaker 2: No, that was he beat on it a few times,
Speaker 2: and then that guy stopped him.
Speaker 1: But anyway, pants down in a truck stop with the
Speaker 1: UTI and a fucking guy banging on the door. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you didn't. But it's like I said, all part
Speaker 1: of the story. I actually told him that, or you
Speaker 1: told me that. You said, if this would have been
Speaker 1: a great experience, we wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Even really well, just right off the bat. We're thrown
Speaker 2: into this disappointing, potentially stress induceding scenario on our second
Speaker 2: night together, and we didn't fight once. She got a
Speaker 2: little irritated with me when I shut her down.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, because she wouldn't give it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wouldn't give it up. That's okay, he's made
Speaker 1: up for it.
Speaker 2: But I mean we talked about it when you hadn't
Speaker 2: had wine yet and you're like, yeah, it's not a
Speaker 2: good to have sex today.
Speaker 1: But then the wine got in there and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it is a good idea.
Speaker 4: Changing her mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on I was feeling the azo at
Speaker 1: that point, and I was like.
Speaker 2: Ah, well, we did make it out of there. Obviously,
Speaker 2: stopped at my mom's and left left her house in
Speaker 2: the evening and drove till like five in the morning
Speaker 2: to get here. And then I didn't pay my power bill.
Speaker 2: So we get we get back to the house and the.
Speaker 1: Powers off, no electric.
Speaker 2: I mean, another reason we could have got story.
Speaker 1: I thought it was hilarious we got and I was like,
Speaker 1: at least we had heat because that's on the gas.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, there's.
Speaker 2: No I paid that bill. You pay the gas in
Speaker 2: the winter and you pay the electricity in the summer.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: It's good though that you guys like had such a
Speaker 4: memorable experience on your road trip, though, because those are
Speaker 4: stories that you guys are going to remember forever and
Speaker 4: can tell why when he gets older.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I mean, and it's like it's like I
Speaker 1: said before, we did kind of we're moving at our
Speaker 1: own pace here, but like I'm projecting a little bit
Speaker 1: onto him, like some of my past stuff, which is
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, I mean, like I think it's inevitable.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard not to. And we're still learning
Speaker 1: how to like be normal together. But the thing is
Speaker 1: it is like, really.
Speaker 2: We're learning to communicate because we both come from very
Speaker 2: different places. I've been around the block, you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of relationships. I've been in some good ones, I've
Speaker 2: been in some bad ones, right, and I always walk
Speaker 2: away with the same thing, like, if you can communicate,
Speaker 2: that's key to then you find out if it's going
Speaker 2: to work or not. Right, And a lot of people
Speaker 2: are scared to go there. I mean we had to
Speaker 2: talk the other night that kind of got a little
Speaker 2: and turned down the wrong way. But you know, we
Speaker 2: moulded over the next day, and that's something that for
Speaker 2: me is really important because you know, if you just
Speaker 2: have a knockdown drag out and then you both shut
Speaker 2: down and you can't talk about it, you can't talk
Speaker 2: about it in that moment, you have to talk about
Speaker 2: it later. And you know, we we've been doing a
Speaker 2: really good job of just like saying like how this
Speaker 2: is affecting both of us.
Speaker 4: Right, which is important, and being able to be like
Speaker 4: vulnerable with each other, and like this is how like
Speaker 4: I feel in this situation, or this is why I
Speaker 4: feel this way. You know, being able to share those things,
Speaker 4: it's going to improve your communication like a thousandfold.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we communicate better already than the
Speaker 2: relationships I've been in the past, just because we share
Speaker 2: so much common ground, right, and we could always bring
Speaker 2: it there.
Speaker 1: And I actually think I'm learning a lot by being
Speaker 1: with Colby, because I think this is like one of
Speaker 1: probably the only healthy relationship.
Speaker 4: I've ever been in, right.
Speaker 1: I Mean, he's older than I am, so maybe he's
Speaker 1: been in like healthy relationships that maybe it just didn't
Speaker 1: work out, But like I've only kind of been in
Speaker 1: toxic relationships. I kind of blame my dad for that.
Speaker 1: Like I've never seen like what a functioning marriage should
Speaker 1: look like, like a functioning relationship. Like I've only ever
Speaker 1: seen like really deadbeat or like bad husbands or like
Speaker 1: bad relationships and like how they work. And I'm always
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Well, if it was me, like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be like that, or I would do this,
Speaker 1: or but when you're in an actual healthy relationship, like
Speaker 1: he's very patient with me. Actually I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been learning a lot for But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: I think in a way, it's like I said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode, like everything has happened kind
Speaker 1: of like in the perfect timing for all of this,
Speaker 1: like I would maybe I wouldn't have been ready to
Speaker 1: like receive this type of relationship even like a year
Speaker 1: ago or two years ago. But I actually want to
Speaker 1: be in love and like have a healthy relationship and
Speaker 1: like learn to communicate and like learn to work hard
Speaker 1: for the things that I want and not just be
Speaker 1: like it's easier to just be complacent in this terrible
Speaker 1: toxic relationship as long as I don't have to like
Speaker 1: be stressed out, you know what, I mean, like I
Speaker 1: stayed so long, just go it, like buy the motions
Speaker 1: or whatever they say, absolutely, like I really want this
Speaker 1: and I really love him, and so it's just totally different.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel kind of crazy because like he can,
Speaker 1: he pays attention to things like I would never like
Speaker 1: he'll be like, oh, well, this, this, this, you don't
Speaker 1: you want to say this, but you won't or something
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, I've never had
Speaker 1: anyone pay that much attention to me. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's just you know what. I think. That's a beautiful
Speaker 4: thing though, that that you can learn from each other
Speaker 4: and grow together in the relationship, because that is a
Speaker 4: solid foundation moving forward, you know, both learning like your
Speaker 4: love languages and how to you know, communicate. You know,
Speaker 4: how things in your past affected maybe the way you
Speaker 4: are now and the way you perceive things, but how
Speaker 4: being in something healthy change that.
Speaker 1: Janet, what's your love language?
Speaker 4: Mine is actually acts of service?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, just the one.
Speaker 4: Greg's the Greg's the exact same way. I'm not into gifts.
Speaker 4: That's not a thing for me now. I like giving
Speaker 4: gifts to other people. I don't like to receive gifts,
Speaker 4: But giving. Giving gifts is nah physical touches. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm a hugger, you know, but I don't require you know,
Speaker 4: like we're we're in such close proximity to each other
Speaker 4: all the time, I don't always have to be like
Speaker 4: touching on him. Yeah, and he's he's the same way,
Speaker 4: So both of us are kind of kind of just
Speaker 4: like acts of service is our main thing.
Speaker 1: So well, that's good that you have the same one.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people think that's bullshit,
Speaker 1: but I actually think there's something to it, because like
Speaker 1: my X was gifts and I didn't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck how how do you? That's like the shittiest fucking
Speaker 1: love language to have. Is like I can tell you
Speaker 1: I love you, I can touch you, I can like
Speaker 1: be there for you. I can do all this stuff
Speaker 1: for you. I can clean the dishes and clean the
Speaker 1: house and like all this stuff, but you don't feel
Speaker 1: like I love you unless I buy you stuff, right,
Speaker 1: And that was really hard for me to understand because
Speaker 1: like he was always like, well, I have this wish
Speaker 1: list of stuff, you know, I want you to get
Speaker 1: me for my birthday or for Christmas or whatever, And
Speaker 1: like if I didn't get stuff off of that list
Speaker 1: or like the whole list, or he was like I
Speaker 1: just feel like you know, and maybe he was just
Speaker 1: a dick. I don't know, and he'll never know what
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 4: He is absolutely a narcissist and all about materialistic things
Speaker 4: like Greg. Greg and I are so like on the
Speaker 4: same page about everything, like don't require words of affirmation
Speaker 4: all the time, like none of that stuff because he
Speaker 4: does things for me all the time. I do things
Speaker 4: for him all the time, and and just by doing
Speaker 4: and whatever, that other stuff doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like get the gift giving love language
Speaker 1: is like the hardest one for me to understand because
Speaker 1: like I'd rather have like experiences like you take me
Speaker 1: to go do something or like we just sit together
Speaker 1: and like talk or do something like that together, Yeah,
Speaker 1: than to have a gift like that.
Speaker 4: Just insane.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a needy bitch and you don't
Speaker 1: maybe know this about me yet, but I'm.
Speaker 4: Like a split between.
Speaker 1: Real words of affirmation and I love physical touch.
Speaker 2: I don't know that about you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you do. I don't know. He's very observant, but
Speaker 1: I love physical touch and I love words of affirmation.
Speaker 1: I show this is interesting because I will show love
Speaker 1: by acts of service, like cleaning the dishes and like
Speaker 1: making sure the house is clean and making the bed
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like she's been making me lunches to tick to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I show up.
Speaker 4: I usually just don't eat.
Speaker 2: I'm getting hungry now and I'm like, oh fuck, Julia
Speaker 2: put in like this nice meal for me, in this contact.
Speaker 2: And I've never had that since my mom, my mom,
Speaker 2: even when I like moved back from college and rented
Speaker 2: a room out in my mom's house when I was painting,
Speaker 2: she would always make me a lunch. And then my
Speaker 2: boss is getting sonic farts and I got a nice
Speaker 2: sandwich from Mom. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But like I receive love by words of affirmation and
Speaker 1: physical touch, but I return love by acts of service,
Speaker 1: I think. And it changed my hands off of him.
Speaker 2: Well, we're both into physical touch and acts of service
Speaker 2: and words of information. I don't know. I think I
Speaker 2: just assumed that everybody likes that to receive m But
Speaker 2: it's hard to do if it's not your style.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and see we're not. We're not that way. But
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people's like love languages come
Speaker 4: from whatever their upbringing was and whatever. They're like things
Speaker 4: that they were missing whatever. Yeah, because used to be
Speaker 4: like for me before I ever met Greg, it was
Speaker 4: physical touch, words of affirmation, you know, all of the things,
Speaker 4: like pretty much. I wanted all of it because I
Speaker 4: was missing all of that. And then and then when
Speaker 4: I met him, that all changed because he was doing
Speaker 4: all the things until I got to the point where
Speaker 4: I was so uh comforted and felt safe in the
Speaker 4: relationship that I don't need you to tell me I
Speaker 4: love you every five seconds. I don't need you to
Speaker 4: like paw on me or you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: And I think both best were that way because his
Speaker 4: relationship when he was married was like she was very
Speaker 4: controlling and you know, like ice queenish and all of
Speaker 4: those things, and so it was learning curve for him too,
Speaker 4: and so his love language also changed when we got together.
Speaker 1: I think we should all add a love language though,
Speaker 1: and that's conspiracy talk. I receive love and I give
Speaker 1: love by conspiracy talk. Actually, Colby, and this is exciting
Speaker 1: for me, has agreed to do my next mini series
Speaker 1: with me, and I'm very stoked on that because, like
Speaker 1: I said, I've had to hide this part of myself
Speaker 1: for so long, and it feels so good to share
Speaker 1: it with someone, right, And Colby has so much to offer,
Speaker 1: and he's so modest, and he has like such a
Speaker 1: set of standards, and I just want to shared that
Speaker 1: with everyone, Like I want.
Speaker 2: To be modest.
Speaker 4: You are, yeah, you are.
Speaker 1: You're modest and I'm confident, yes, but you're modest, And
Speaker 1: so I want to share him, like with a wider She's.
Speaker 2: Already like Disinfrobation like basically goes from anywhere from like
Speaker 2: twenty to eighty listeners. I've never I don't think we've
Speaker 2: ever like broke through Triple digits. But Dusty and I
Speaker 2: do that show because it's.
Speaker 4: Therapy, because it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's also I mean, I had more fun doing that
Speaker 2: show than anything I've ever like any project I've ever
Speaker 2: put my heart into. And it's so weird because we
Speaker 2: just mic up and talk shit, right, and you never
Speaker 2: know what we're going to talk about and cool, well
Speaker 2: it is. That's my passion. But Disinfrobation I found somebody,
Speaker 2: Dusty shout out to Dusty he he and I like,
Speaker 2: I'm fucked up.
Speaker 4: I think you guys are literally brothers.
Speaker 2: Oh we are? Yeah, like that guy. I hope he
Speaker 2: comes to the wedding. Yeah, I mean that guy. He
Speaker 2: has pushed me in ways that I didn't know I
Speaker 2: could be pushed, and I think I've done the same
Speaker 2: thing for him. Like he's a comedic genius.
Speaker 4: Dusty's funny, just sorry, just.
Speaker 2: Being Dusty, like if he just says something that would
Speaker 2: sound ordinary from another guy, just the way, and then
Speaker 2: like the ship he puts into the show, like he's
Speaker 2: needed somebody like me to like grab him and like
Speaker 2: I can like turn his little rants into commercials and stuff.
Speaker 4: That's what I think is the funniest because you guys,
Speaker 4: I swear you could make a fortune, like doing your
Speaker 4: own advertising company. But like how people really want to
Speaker 4: say stuff, yeah, like blud light stuff or whatever.
Speaker 1: Because I told Brian he's absolutely a comedic genie. I
Speaker 1: cannot be with someone who doesn't have like an excellent
Speaker 1: sense of humor. And it's just you know, I started
Speaker 1: featuring disinfo based Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: What the whole reason I was talking about this because
Speaker 2: I wanted to give Julia props because she's featuring disinfrobation
Speaker 2: for her Patreon listeners, and so we're getting listens. Probably
Speaker 2: that we've never gotten before, or at least people can
Speaker 2: check it out. I mean, she's had a lot of
Speaker 2: negative feedback about it, but we kind of try to
Speaker 2: weed out the pussy's on that show. Yeah, and political people.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk shit about fucking every politician, anybody, anybody
Speaker 2: that likes somebody out there. Like people assumed we were
Speaker 2: all maga and shit when we started the show because
Speaker 2: that was what Biden in that administration was what was
Speaker 2: easy to talk shit about. But then by episode three,
Speaker 2: actually we did get triple digits at first, and then
Speaker 2: all the maga people were like, fuck these guys to Trump, yeah,
Speaker 2: or we make fun of everybody. But so she's had
Speaker 2: some people on her Patreon feed that are like, well,
Speaker 2: they're making fun of Jesus Trump. Well.
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, and I what I don't understand
Speaker 1: is I've said on my show before, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if they just assume or they associate me with
Speaker 1: some type of political party, but I've said on my
Speaker 1: show before that I can't believe people put so much.
Speaker 2: Sha thinks that they're all pedophiles.
Speaker 1: I do, and I think, well, yeah, and I said,
Speaker 1: I can't believe people are putting their blind faith into someone,
Speaker 1: whether it be Trump or whoever, when it should be
Speaker 1: allocated to much more worthy Uh, Like, what did I say?
Speaker 1: I said it in the Pedaphocracy. I said there are
Speaker 1: much more worthy places to put your trust in, like Jesus.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. But anyways, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: can't believe they would think that I had an association
Speaker 1: like that because I don't. I'm I'm well, you.
Speaker 2: Don't talk about it, so if you don't open up politically,
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to like what you're
Speaker 2: saying and just assume that Because.
Speaker 1: I love Jesus, therefore I like Trump kind of thing,
Speaker 1: like they would have just Hilario together, and is it, Janet,
Speaker 1: you know how it is. But anyways, I think Colby
Speaker 1: has so much to offer, and I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: selfishly to keep him all for myself, but I also
Speaker 1: want to share him with my audience, and I think
Speaker 1: him working on this new series with me.
Speaker 2: And I'm reluctant to do it because I know that
Speaker 2: I'm abrasive and I'm very have strong opinions and I
Speaker 2: don't know, like when I like.
Speaker 4: Your style of communication though, because you you're like me,
Speaker 4: I don't have a filter, and I just say what
Speaker 4: I want to say and if you like it, fine,
Speaker 4: If you don't like it, I really could care less.
Speaker 4: But I love your your honesty, Yeah, I love that
Speaker 4: about you.
Speaker 2: Well. I think that's that's to me, my favorite quality
Speaker 2: in people. So I strive to be that. Like even
Speaker 2: when I feel like certain people in the podcast community
Speaker 2: are full of shit, I feel like a calling to
Speaker 2: call it out. And I have lost a lot of
Speaker 2: people by talking.
Speaker 4: Show and I don't really care.
Speaker 2: But you know, like, if I'm wrong, fuck me, if
Speaker 2: you would disagree with me that strongly, that if I
Speaker 2: fucking blast Sam Tripoli or whoever else on my podcast,
Speaker 2: and I actually listen to Sam. I think he's got
Speaker 2: a good show, but I know that they're Charlatans among us,
Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm not calling him out in particular
Speaker 2: as being that I just if I say anything about
Speaker 2: certain golden calves among us, I get ostracized, and I
Speaker 2: will say that. You know, if that's where you stand,
Speaker 2: and that's your line in the sand, then I'm happy
Speaker 2: to push you over.
Speaker 4: That edge because I like being on the fringe. Though
Speaker 4: I don't like being on that er. Circle with that,
Speaker 4: because I think it's disingenuous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that to me is like I said, honesty
Speaker 2: is my favorite quality, so obviously the opposite of that
Speaker 2: is my least. And I listen to a lot of
Speaker 2: shows for the guests and just to check out what's
Speaker 2: big in the conspiracy scene. So I listen to shows
Speaker 2: where I can't stand the people that host the shows.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, and I can do that, it doesn't
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, a lot of times just rolling my eyes.
Speaker 2: But I've gotten so much good stuff out of people's shows.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's great guests, even dipshits bring up really
Speaker 2: good points something. But that's what.
Speaker 1: I was trying to say though, is like, even though
Speaker 1: the hosts may be disingenuous, like the podcasting world is
Speaker 1: becoming more narrow and like the common, everyday average person
Speaker 1: who listens to these bigger shows, whether or not you
Speaker 1: like the host or you agree with what they're doing,
Speaker 1: they're reaching people, and I, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: just want people to learn shit right. And it just
Speaker 1: makes my fucking day when somebody reaches out to me
Speaker 1: and they're like, I've listened to your show for a
Speaker 1: long time, but I shared it with one of my
Speaker 1: friends and they were just like mind blown. They couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it, and they just you know, they like that
Speaker 1: makes it worth it to me because I get crucified
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Like they send me messages telling me I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're so retarded. I can't believe you believe that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do this, you say that you're the that. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like the five or
Speaker 1: six people a month, the new listeners that like come
Speaker 1: over to my show and they learn something, I just
Speaker 1: want to be This sounds stupid, and I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't have like a complex or anything. I just want
Speaker 1: to be like some type of like vehicle or like
Speaker 1: vessel for people to learn shit through.
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that that right there, that doesn't as.
Speaker 2: Savior complex, just because like you have a calling to
Speaker 2: wake people to fuck upright, And I mean, honestly, I
Speaker 2: wanted to say this earlier, but first and foremost with Julia,
Speaker 2: I was a fan of her show, Like I wanted
Speaker 2: to work with her because I thought she was putting
Speaker 2: a very unique spin on like a lot of topics
Speaker 2: we've all talked about to death. I learned stuff on
Speaker 2: her show, and so I was like, yeah, let's talk
Speaker 2: to Kubrick and I Laurel. Yeah, I reached out through
Speaker 2: Davy Wavey. I ended up actually finally working with her
Speaker 2: through Nick, two people I love very much. And I
Speaker 2: talk about genuine people in the in the scene like
Speaker 2: you might have your gripes with those two people I
Speaker 2: just named a lot of people do. It's because they're
Speaker 2: really not not you just anybody listening. I mean, those
Speaker 2: are two real motherfuckers, and they they have butted heads
Speaker 2: with a lot of us and I'm not me, but
Speaker 2: a lot of people in the cot.
Speaker 4: But they're they're the same way. They're both exactly very
Speaker 4: like speak your mind, no bullshit, no sugarcoating kind of people.
Speaker 4: Those are the kind of people that I am most
Speaker 4: gravitated toward.
Speaker 2: And if we're not listing you, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: you out there, and I'm sure you know who you are, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, and I have to say, like I
Speaker 1: got a lot of hate when I went the first
Speaker 1: and the second time on Tinfoil Hat, and I will
Speaker 1: say that a lot of people have a problem with
Speaker 1: Sam and I get it, but it's like I said before,
Speaker 1: if I can reach a wider audience. Then Sam has
Speaker 1: just become a vehicle for me to reach more people
Speaker 1: because whether or not I agree with what he's done
Speaker 1: or said or doing or whatever, he reaches so many people, right,
Speaker 1: And there's so many other great podcasters out there who
Speaker 1: are genuine who are trying to actually make a difference
Speaker 1: and get people to wake up and to realize certain things,
Speaker 1: and they don't get the light of day and they
Speaker 1: don't get invited on bigger shows or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Julia just had someone reach out to her and
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, we're just starting. You probably won't even
Speaker 2: answer this email, and she's going to do a show
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of people that that I love, you know.
Speaker 2: And how many people have you brought into this world?
Speaker 2: Just yeah, And it's like.
Speaker 1: You get to make the discovery of that person who
Speaker 1: will eventually probably become something. But like for me, let's say,
Speaker 1: both of the times I went on Tinfoil Hat, I
Speaker 1: got like one hundred new people that had never heard
Speaker 1: me before listen to my show and they go over
Speaker 1: to my show and they find Colby and Drew missing
Speaker 1: from your Missing the Point podcast, or they find you
Speaker 1: or they find someone that they never would have heard before,
Speaker 1: but they've found them through me. From going on tinfoil hat.
Speaker 1: Sam is like a vehicle for me to project a
Speaker 1: more important message through well.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't want to say I dislike anybody,
Speaker 2: but certain people that leave a negative taste in other
Speaker 2: people's mouths for whatever reason, Like they've been in this
Speaker 2: scene for years and made it possible for us to
Speaker 2: have a show, right. I mean that's hard to overlook
Speaker 2: no matter who it is, Like fuck Joe Rogan, but
Speaker 2: he made it possible for all of us. I mean,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say about that guy and what
Speaker 2: he believes in dragons, he believes whatever he thinks. He's
Speaker 2: going to be the best for you show.
Speaker 1: I found a really cool conspiracy actually the other day
Speaker 1: where they let's just say all the dinosaur bones are real.
Speaker 1: Let's just pretend for a second that the dinosaur bones
Speaker 1: are real. They said, you know how like the t
Speaker 1: rex has like the tiny arms or whatever, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, but like think about it, what sense
Speaker 1: would it make for some for a creature that large
Speaker 1: to have those little, anybody useless arms like that? And
Speaker 1: they said, if you actually look at the skeleton. Those
Speaker 1: are like the same type of bones that the fucking
Speaker 1: pterodactyls have, and those anybody arms were probably like a
Speaker 1: part of a fucking wing in that in that t
Speaker 1: rexes actually were like dragons and like had wings and shit.
Speaker 4: So maybe that's what's wrong with me. Maybe I was
Speaker 4: meant to have wings.
Speaker 1: You were definitely meant dragon. Definitely meant to be a dragon.
Speaker 1: It should be called the deplorable Dragon, Janet.
Speaker 4: That's right, fast, Joe approve.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I say all that to say I think,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what your personal intentions
Speaker 1: are and what your personal like, whether or not you're
Speaker 1: a genuine person or not, will come through in your work,
Speaker 1: and it will come through in the amount of people
Speaker 1: that the live that you touch out there, because it's
Speaker 1: not about me at the end of the day. And actually,
Speaker 1: when I first started podcasting, I didn't do any video
Speaker 1: and I didn't post any pictures of myself because I
Speaker 1: didn't want it to be about my appearance. I didn't
Speaker 1: want it to be.
Speaker 3: About but.
Speaker 1: I just want people to learn shit when they listen
Speaker 1: to my podcast, and it not be about anything other
Speaker 1: than that. And so that's what I told COLBYA. I said,
Speaker 1: you have so much to share, and I would love
Speaker 1: it if you'd work on this new series with me
Speaker 1: because he has so much to add to it. A
Speaker 1: lot of the times I learned stuff from him, and
Speaker 1: then I repeated on my show, she.
Speaker 2: Only shouts me out half the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I did the same thing. I was recording like
Speaker 2: a five hour long podcast with Project Cheney and Phil Zazarro,
Speaker 2: and I was like quoting shit. I learned from her
Speaker 2: left and right. And then later on I was like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I should have dropped your name.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know. But when I was editing it back,
Speaker 2: I was like that I definitely learned that from your
Speaker 2: show or a conversation we had.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like the Jim Carrey thing. When
Speaker 1: I put out my series on Jim Carrey and nobody
Speaker 1: else was really talking about it. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: dead topic. And then the other day you said you
Speaker 1: heard a podcast as somebody saying that Jim Carrey is
Speaker 1: like playing Yeah, it was Roles.
Speaker 2: It is flat earther on a cult of conspiracy. He
Speaker 2: he blew my mind, Like, I definitely would like to
Speaker 2: get that guy.
Speaker 1: On because I mean said about, oh he's so he was.
Speaker 2: A theory I love is that there's actors out there
Speaker 2: that we know as themselves, like Brad Patter, Jim Carrey,
Speaker 2: but they're also masking up and playing many other roles
Speaker 2: or politicians.
Speaker 4: Even I was just thinking politicians lately.
Speaker 2: Definitely, one of his things he said was that Jim
Speaker 2: Morrison became Rush Limbaugh. And I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 2: the theory that Bill Hicks became Alex Jones. I thought
Speaker 2: it was laughable at first, but I've since been convinced
Speaker 2: it's plausible. So this guy's dropping other stuff I've never heard.
Speaker 2: And he starts talking about Jim Carrey and how he
Speaker 2: thinks the return of Christ might be faked and that
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey will do it. And he talked about this
Speaker 2: part at the end of the documentary Jim and Andy,
Speaker 2: which was recapping how Jim Carrey became Andy Kaufman during
Speaker 2: the shooting of The Man on the Moon And do
Speaker 2: you know about that, Janet, Like, Jim Carrey lost his
Speaker 2: mind playing Andy Kaufman, and he pretty much channeled him
Speaker 2: from what other people say. Andy Kaufman's parents came onto
Speaker 2: the set this movie and had conversations with Andy Kaufman
Speaker 2: that they said Jim Carrey wouldn't have known. And at
Speaker 2: the end of this movie, he just says, I could
Speaker 2: do this with anybody, and he says I could become
Speaker 2: Jesus and then he just looks at the camera. And
Speaker 2: so this guy thinks that Jim Carey might come back
Speaker 2: as Christ was next big role because a lot of
Speaker 2: people are convinced that he was Biden at least some
Speaker 2: of the time. And anyway, so the.
Speaker 1: Real Biden maybe because the came.
Speaker 2: Out after he withdrew running again, And I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: But I say all that to say this is interesting
Speaker 1: shit and fucking conspiracy talk is one of my love languages.
Speaker 2: It's my top level. I've driven many people away using it,
Speaker 2: including my son's mom.
Speaker 4: Well, I would have gladly put her in a clab
Speaker 4: and drove her away myself, but that's beside the point. Sorry, Ashley,
Speaker 4: I'm not posting this so talking go for it. So anyway,
Speaker 4: I want to say a huge thank you to both
Speaker 4: of you for coming on and sharing and being vulnerable
Speaker 4: and you know, talking about the challenges that you eyes
Speaker 4: are facing as a new couple in a new living situation.
Speaker 2: And far between. It's it's it's it's really been great
Speaker 2: all said and done, like this is you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, I just said, I'm just going to be
Speaker 2: a dad unless something falls in my lap.
Speaker 4: And it did, and she did fall in your lap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she dove into it, but I mean
Speaker 2: I was very receptive.
Speaker 1: So you know, I love him so much, Janet. He's
Speaker 1: like the sweetest sweetie ever he.
Speaker 4: Is, and and I love the two of you together.
Speaker 4: I think it's wonderful and I'm blessed and honored to
Speaker 4: know both of you and to be able to share
Speaker 4: in this part of your journey together because I love
Speaker 4: it so much.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I can speak for both of us,
Speaker 1: but we always have held you in high Well.
Speaker 2: I was like, when are we going to tell Janet?
Speaker 2: And you know why I left you hanging? Janet, I
Speaker 2: didn't interject when you were talking about that I left
Speaker 2: you hanging, And then she texted you. We decided to
Speaker 2: tell you together and left and then she makes me
Speaker 2: look at the asshole and texts you and tells you
Speaker 2: and I wasn't mad. Well, you know we're not doing
Speaker 2: this together now, I guess and then you and I
Speaker 2: started texting you right after she told you.
Speaker 1: So whatever anybody may think, like, I'm glad that we
Speaker 1: got our story out there into the open too, because
Speaker 1: we're both like people know about all of us, you know,
Speaker 1: in our personal lives. We talk about it on our shows,
Speaker 1: and it's good to clear some I only talk.
Speaker 2: About my personal ship when I come on Janet show.
Speaker 1: Still, I love doing it good to be honest and
Speaker 1: open about it too, because I mean a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially on my end, because like I've shared, you know,
Speaker 1: my story on your show and other shows. I've talked
Speaker 1: about my life on my own show, and this is
Speaker 1: just kind of like the next chapter in both of
Speaker 1: our lives, and I think it's important to just be
Speaker 1: open and honest about that because it affects not only
Speaker 1: our shows. But I don't want people getting the wrong
Speaker 1: idea about like how this came to be either.
Speaker 4: Right, I was gonna say, people are gonna people, right,
Speaker 4: They're gonna do and say and think what they want
Speaker 4: to regardless of what you say. All I can say
Speaker 4: is I have had a front row seat to this,
Speaker 4: and I'm thankful for that and for the people out
Speaker 4: there that are going to be haters. You're gonna hate
Speaker 4: just because you're being miserable in your own life, and
Speaker 4: so sorry to put it that way, but it's true.
Speaker 4: If you if you can't do anything but hate on
Speaker 4: somebody else, then maybe you should look in the mirror.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their love language is hater ass bitch.
Speaker 2: We've added two new love languages on one.
Speaker 4: Episode, bitch and yeah, and shout out to Sonic, who
Speaker 4: is squonsoring the show.
Speaker 1: Today for everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say, and depends because sometimes you know
Speaker 4: you may need them after.
Speaker 2: When when you want to front your girlfriend's face and
Speaker 2: not ship on her. It depends.
Speaker 1: It depends whether or not you've eaten Sonic exactly.
Speaker 4: So guys, thanks for joining me for another episode. Thanks
Speaker 4: everybody for listening. I love you both dearly and for me, Julia.
Speaker 4: Get to see you guys next time. Alabama ARKit sas
Speaker 4: I love my MoMA, not the way I do love
Speaker 4: you holding holding real bye Yode the apple of my eye.
Speaker 2: Girl loves that A loved one like.
Speaker 1: Laying O many on my death Man, I'm dreaming too.
Speaker 1: Nothing next day Nothing The Hot and Heavy Pumpkin pie
Speaker 1: chopping candy Jesus Christ Trade.
Speaker 2: Does it please be morning?
Speaker 1: Let me go this week, let me go