Speaker 1: Hey, hey, today April fourth, twenty twenty five, allegedly, according
Speaker 1: to that thing we call a calendar, this the o'celli effect.
Speaker 1: You listening there now, if you're hearing us just slightly
Speaker 1: after and I mean about six and a half minutes
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Speaker 1: then we are live. And so were the dogs apparently.
Speaker 1: See they weren't parking this whole time. I go live
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Speaker 1: and that means we got open lines, lots of them,
Speaker 1: and a few things to talk about. I had a
Speaker 1: whole news show loaded up. I might just do it
Speaker 1: tomorrow on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe we'll just see what
Speaker 1: shakes out in the news over the weekend, cause it's
Speaker 1: been kind of a wild week anyway. All that aside,
Speaker 1: we had the hearings, the JFK stuff happened. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of things going on, uh, And you could
Speaker 1: talk about anything you want if you call in three
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Speaker 1: we won't change the Friday nights now. A couple of
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Speaker 1: And who knows, I might have to change that numbers soon,
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Speaker 1: Oh and bye the bye. I'm not sure if I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a broadcast on my birthday. What is
Speaker 1: my birthday?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 1: Four five, six seventh? Oh, it would be a Monday,
Speaker 1: so I'm not doing Mondays anymore. April seven is a Monday, right,
Speaker 1: b Pete is April seven a Monday. How do I know?
Speaker 2: Do I look like some kind of I look like
Speaker 2: a calendar to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You do. Actually, you look exactly like a calendar
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, that's exactly what you look like. Be
Speaker 1: Pete the calendar.
Speaker 2: And I can't hear a damn thing you're saying. The
Speaker 2: fifth what was your question?
Speaker 1: My question was what is April the seventh a Monday?
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, April the seventh is a Monday. Today's the fourth,
Speaker 2: It's three days from now.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's my birthday. So I was just saying my birthday.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to broadcast and it's Monday.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't do Mondays anymore usually.
Speaker 2: Oh, well birthday.
Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know what I'll do on
Speaker 1: my birthday, but I don't think I'll be doing a broadcast.
Speaker 1: But then again, maybe I will. I don't know. We'll
Speaker 1: see what I feel like doing. Maybe I'll get on
Speaker 1: and do do a DJ set, have fun with some
Speaker 1: music something, whatever it is it is. Anyway, how are
Speaker 1: you doing this week, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good, but I'm trying to stay on top
Speaker 2: of all this. It's been hectic at work, but I'm
Speaker 2: trying to stay on top of all this crap with
Speaker 2: the stocks, you know, big farmers tanking, which needed to
Speaker 2: be done. But everybody's four one k is going to pieces.
Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering, is this Trump's a way of
Speaker 2: taking out the over inflated stock prices and breaking this
Speaker 2: bubble that's been waiting to happen. He's doing it early.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Uh, so you're going with the uh this is for
Speaker 1: dy chess on Trump's part.
Speaker 2: SERI now, no, I'm thinking that he's he's you know,
Speaker 2: we've heard from people for the past three years. Oh,
Speaker 2: stocks are overrated, stocks are overrated. It's going to be
Speaker 2: an adjustment. It's going to be an adjustment. I'm wondering
Speaker 2: if this is out He's force of the adjustment.
Speaker 1: We've heard from people over the past three years. You
Speaker 1: kidding me. I've heard from people over the past fifteen
Speaker 1: years that everything's important.
Speaker 2: So the past three you know, it's really Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: these companies are buying back all their stock, they're going
Speaker 2: to go private, and they're just you know, like it
Speaker 2: with COVID, well every yeah, I don't know when these
Speaker 2: companies making money when everything was shut down. Nobody was
Speaker 2: selling crap.
Speaker 1: Well ever since, okay, ever since the bounce back after
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight crash. That's all I've heard
Speaker 1: about is the way the manipulation is. And I used
Speaker 1: to talk to Swanson about it every week, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like, Mike, what's going on with this stock market?
Speaker 1: And yeah, there was the tent poles that were keeping
Speaker 1: things up. Which, by the way, even the Nintendo switched
Speaker 1: to the pre orders are now being canceled or at
Speaker 1: least delayed amidst the new tariffs, according to uh let's
Speaker 1: see according to NintendoLife dot com and a bunch of
Speaker 1: other websites, business websites, So even the new game console
Speaker 1: is being delayed because of the tariffs. And I got
Speaker 1: some other funny news on that, which again I was
Speaker 1: going to do in a news show. I mean, I
Speaker 1: got a ton of stuff that I could do in
Speaker 1: stories tonight because I was loaded up for a news
Speaker 1: show that I was going to do at seven and
Speaker 1: didn't get to. You know, uh, interesting how they're pinning
Speaker 1: Vietnam uh with a with a pretty heavy tariff, and
Speaker 1: that's because the new cheap goods supply was coming through Vietnam,
Speaker 1: whether people knew it or not, and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's a weird situation. And they're saying that markets.
Speaker 2: Vietnam just put tariffs on South Korean and Japanese steel
Speaker 2: m h. So you know the Domino, you know, tariffs,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna teariff them. Well, this is what it's
Speaker 2: funny to watch, the interconnectedness of all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, this is the true meaning of
Speaker 1: the word reciprocal though. That's the funny thing, because they
Speaker 1: were saying these are reciprocal tarifs, reciprocal tariffs. They weren't
Speaker 1: reciprocal tariffs. Now they're going to be because they're going
Speaker 1: to go back and forth and it's going to be reciprocal.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, If you look and then I noticed
Speaker 2: this when I was over in Europe. If you look
Speaker 2: at the tariffs and restrictions put on US goods around
Speaker 2: the world, we really have been kind of taken to
Speaker 2: punches here for the past fifteen to twenty years. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of restrictions on US products all over the world,
Speaker 2: especially in Europe, you know Europe. That and a lot
Speaker 2: of it came to light when Brett when Britain left
Speaker 2: the EU and they went back to using the pound.
Speaker 2: Of course they still used the Euro in places, but
Speaker 2: they changed their currency. We used to get killed overseas
Speaker 2: with the Euro. Our money was worthless. And when the
Speaker 2: Trump first administration came in, things changed. Now Brexit had
Speaker 2: happened and a lot of our money became a help
Speaker 2: whole lot stronger overseas. But we still have been fighting
Speaker 2: tariffs on a lot of our products, a lot of
Speaker 2: our agricultural products too, chick in the pants. So reciprocal, yes,
Speaker 2: and it's going to get more reciprocal. You're gonna see
Speaker 2: even more and more and more. But you know, if that,
Speaker 2: if you want free trade, what's wrong with free trade?
Speaker 2: And these other companies have been protecting their stuff for
Speaker 2: years and years and years, and it's about time we start,
Speaker 2: you know, playing the same game.
Speaker 1: Well see, I always understood free trade as the government
Speaker 1: doesn't get involved and you just trade with who you want,
Speaker 1: how you want. I thought that's the way that rolled,
Speaker 1: But anyway, it doesn't. It's a whole new era at
Speaker 1: this point. And it's kind of funny because again they
Speaker 1: were saying that the stock market and by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm always the guy who said I don't give a
Speaker 1: crap about the stock market. I don't have stocks. I
Speaker 1: don't have a four oh one K. Most of the
Speaker 1: people I know do not. Apparently I found out my
Speaker 1: oldest son has one this week. I wonder if he's, like,
Speaker 1: you know, crapping a brick at this point, because the
Speaker 1: market allegedly lost like five trillion dollars in value this week,
Speaker 1: which is not good for anybody's for one K. But
Speaker 1: whatever I say, the majority of people, hang on, hang on,
Speaker 1: hang on. The majority of people are not really affected
Speaker 1: by the stock market. They're really not, not directly. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, most of us don't have people that
Speaker 1: even talk about it constantly. The majority of them don't
Speaker 1: even have any skin in the game, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: But you know that crazy stock market guy that's been
Speaker 1: on CNBC for years and years, Jim Kramer, he's changed
Speaker 1: his tune about all of this recently and had some
Speaker 1: pretty wild things to say. And look, you you're here
Speaker 1: in the doomsday bells go off, you're here in the
Speaker 1: celebrations happening, and it's all premature. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: knows how this is all gonna shake out until it
Speaker 1: actually does.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna tell what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna jack up prices for a minute, though.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's gonna do that. Anybody who
Speaker 1: tells you otherwise rung.
Speaker 2: Yeahs are gonna jump around. Stocks are gonna those dives.
Speaker 2: People are gonna buy on the low and pump them
Speaker 2: back up. And it's it's almost getting ready turn into
Speaker 2: a free for all. The four one case was a
Speaker 2: big myth sold to the public that worked for these
Speaker 2: companies that wanted to get away from the old style
Speaker 2: pensions where they had to pay you team. Now it's
Speaker 2: all on you. You take your money, they'll match you
Speaker 2: up to four percent, five percent. They'll throw a little
Speaker 2: money in there to give you an incentive. But it
Speaker 2: takes the heat off them and they can worry about
Speaker 2: their damn profits and their stock returns. And you know,
Speaker 2: and all these companies for years started buying back their stocks.
Speaker 2: You know, after the crash in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: you saw a big swing in who was buying the stocks.
Speaker 2: And this company's buying it back, right. Some of them
Speaker 2: want to go private, some of them want to get
Speaker 2: their money out of it and haul ass and leave
Speaker 2: a shell of a company there. You know, pensions were
Speaker 2: one thing. These four one k's, it's all a crapshoot, right,
Speaker 2: because it's all tied to a stock market. That it's
Speaker 2: artificially inflated by the companies that are members of the
Speaker 2: stock markets.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's the point. See, I liked when I
Speaker 1: worked for Exon Mobile. One thing about it is that
Speaker 1: I had stock programs, and my stock program if I
Speaker 1: would have been stuck in there still, I could have
Speaker 1: made a fortune with the buybacks because and I bought
Speaker 1: them for my kids, not for me, by the way.
Speaker 1: It wasn't for my future. I was buying them for them,
Speaker 1: and I just had a simple withdrawal from my check
Speaker 1: and it grew, it grew nicely. And when they bought Mobile,
Speaker 1: I split. I ended up with basically a stock from
Speaker 1: both companies automatically because of what happened, and that jumped
Speaker 1: up the value of what I had invested for them.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that was a good way to go.
Speaker 1: You were tied to the company, you know, in the
Speaker 1: days when loyalty was something and that was then, that
Speaker 1: was a good way to go. But this four oh
Speaker 1: one K thing, everybody screams about it, but it's crap.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is again, like I said, yes,
Speaker 1: I know the stock market effects a whole bunch of things,
Speaker 1: but the truth is people talk about it a lot
Speaker 1: more than it really directly is ever part of their lives.
Speaker 1: It's actually more one of those sculptors of people's attitudes
Speaker 1: than anything. It's not even like a real thing for
Speaker 1: most people that are not you know, rich enough to
Speaker 1: be in the casino. And it is a big casino,
Speaker 1: I mean. And I've been saying that with Swanson, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that he made a living, you know, off
Speaker 1: of that stuff, and he was at one time even
Speaker 1: a hedge on manager. I said to him, you know
Speaker 1: that that's a game for another class of people that's
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with me, nothing to do with
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of my listeners. We we talk about it,
Speaker 1: but it's pointless. It's just a barometer to us. It's
Speaker 1: not even something that we ever play in. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like me talking about the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to play in that sucker. I might
Speaker 1: find it interesting, and I might think it's great that
Speaker 1: you can win millions of dollars, but I'm never going
Speaker 1: to be in the World Series of Poker bet Beat.
Speaker 1: I mean, you might be, but I'm not going.
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, And yeah, that's one thing about this
Speaker 2: one case.
Speaker 5: You know, people for one case, most people that work
Speaker 5: for for a big enough company that offered sometimes of
Speaker 5: retirement have gone to the Even the state of North Carolina,
Speaker 5: you know, used to when you went to work for.
Speaker 2: The state, you had an excellent retirement you after thirty years, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all your medical you had basically you were making six
Speaker 2: percent of your salary. We'll see they get away with
Speaker 2: all that a few years ago. And that's why they
Speaker 2: can't get people to go to work for now, because
Speaker 2: you just have an average for all one k and
Speaker 2: most four one ks are owned by people in the
Speaker 2: other incomes because they can afford to just shove money
Speaker 2: over into this thing and watch it go up and down.
Speaker 2: Where you're lower paid employees, they can't afford to carve
Speaker 2: out seven percent of their check throwings even with the
Speaker 2: matching funds from the company, because they needed to live now.
Speaker 2: Their kids, you know, are expensive now not down the road,
Speaker 2: and you're basically given money to purchase stocks in companies
Speaker 2: that have overinflated values, and then when the bubble burst,
Speaker 2: you're left with nothing or very little. But it's those
Speaker 2: people that can afford to lose it that are in it.
Speaker 2: Most people, like you said, most people aren't. I think
Speaker 2: we looked it up one night of what the percentage
Speaker 2: was of working people that had it, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: even near.
Speaker 3: Half, was it.
Speaker 1: No, it's a very small percentage. And look, I don't
Speaker 1: want to spend all night talking about this, because again
Speaker 1: we could talk about did you check out the hearings
Speaker 1: on the task force for the JFK documents and all that?
Speaker 1: Because I had, Oh well, I did a review on that.
Speaker 1: Did you catch my review?
Speaker 2: I just listened to your thing with Clive Lewis last night.
Speaker 2: That's how fall behind.
Speaker 1: Eye, okay, because you know, Lauren Bobert just proved exactly
Speaker 1: how ill informed she is on the subject. Uh tried
Speaker 1: to tried to like do a gotcha thing on Oliver Stone,
Speaker 1: which was hilarious, and she confused Oliver Stone with Roger Stone.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that that was pretty
Speaker 1: funny because she's like you. You asserted in your book
Speaker 1: that LBJ was actually responsible for the murder of John F. Kennedy. Uh,
Speaker 1: did the new documents prove or disprove your thesis, sir?
Speaker 1: And Oliver Stone looks at her like, what the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about? In my film, I never said that.
Speaker 1: I said that Johnson was complicit in a cover up.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: He's confused looking, and she's like, no, I mean you
Speaker 1: said this in your book. And Morley tried to lean
Speaker 1: forward and tell her, you know, hey, look you're making
Speaker 1: a mistake here, and she waves her pencil at him,
Speaker 1: like no, no, I'll get to you, sir, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was too funny like, and finally she had
Speaker 1: to drop it because somebody pointed out, you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And then she tried to wind
Speaker 1: up on Morley with something and that wasn't gonna work either,
Speaker 1: So you know, her five minutes got expired where she
Speaker 1: had two fails on a gotcha. And then you had
Speaker 1: the Democrats over there just wanting to bitch about Trump,
Speaker 1: and they had another document guy there who was pointing
Speaker 1: out because a bunch of social Security numbers and personal
Speaker 1: information got released that shouldn't have for living people. In
Speaker 1: this document dump, and these representatives are like, well, this
Speaker 1: was rushed and sloppy. But and I'm thinking to myself, rushed.
Speaker 1: A whole time of this crap was stuff that was
Speaker 1: you know, already vetted in the nineteen nineties, you morons.
Speaker 1: And the next thing is I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know, but they did it sloppy, true, but somebody
Speaker 1: should have been taking care of this, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, in the in the previous eight years after
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, or maybe in the twenty five years before
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, a whole lot of this stuff could have
Speaker 1: been avoided had somebody been making them.
Speaker 2: Do their work before that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well how about that? How about the thirty
Speaker 1: years previous to the assassination records or view board where
Speaker 1: they could have released this stuff. No, you rushed? What
Speaker 1: are you stupid? Anyway? I just I was just amazed
Speaker 1: at how poorly informed everybody was at this. At this hearing,
Speaker 1: there was like, well.
Speaker 2: You know the reason for that is is you've got
Speaker 2: people now that are that are are making grand standing
Speaker 2: about this thing. Yeah, and yet they never studied it before.
Speaker 2: It's like they became overnight experts. Yeah, you know, they
Speaker 2: don't know the history of stuff. They don't know where
Speaker 2: the documents were first released when they were redacted, and
Speaker 2: there was nothing on the page, right, I mean, they
Speaker 2: know nothing about it. They come in here at the
Speaker 2: last minute, they're going to be making decisions about, well
Speaker 2: what this means and what that means. They're clueless, absolutely clueless, right.
Speaker 1: And the other bad thing though, is that even the
Speaker 1: ones you're saying, oh, they become an overnight expert. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, be Pete, find me an overnight expert
Speaker 1: in that group if you watch the hearings, because none
Speaker 1: of them, like one guy took the time to study
Speaker 1: stuff because he asked relevant questions. One guy Okay, everybody
Speaker 1: else was trying to score points. And even the lady
Speaker 1: from Texas, the representative from Dallas, you know, she was
Speaker 1: just going after well, you know, Trump did this and
Speaker 1: rushed it, you know, God, and you know because Democrat
Speaker 1: that's why. And you know, and the Republicans just wanted
Speaker 1: to score points on Biden. The Democrats wanted to score
Speaker 1: points on Trump. And I'm going, guys, this is not
Speaker 1: what it's about. And meanwhile, there's one guy there who's
Speaker 1: like it was irresponsible to release the social security records,
Speaker 1: you know. And Morley comes out and goes, look, you
Speaker 1: know what, on the Mary Farrell Foundation, we're going to
Speaker 1: put these documents up and we're going to add redactions
Speaker 1: for that. Okay, so you know, we're going to do
Speaker 1: the work that you people didn't do. Just want you
Speaker 1: to know that. And several times, look, I disagree with
Speaker 1: Morley about a bunch of stuff. And I find it
Speaker 1: funny that he keeps calling himself a liberal Democrat because
Speaker 1: I don't see it. But okay, let's just assume for
Speaker 1: a minute that he is. Several times he basically, very
Speaker 1: politely said to them, you know, I didn't think I
Speaker 1: was here to have a partisan argument. We're here to
Speaker 1: talk about the declassification, right. I mean like he had
Speaker 1: to keep reminding both sides of the aisle that you know,
Speaker 1: you're not here to score points, guys, and you got
Speaker 1: selected on this special task force, right and you know
Speaker 1: zero you didn't take the time to read anything. You
Speaker 1: don't know the difference between Roger Stone and Oliver Stone.
Speaker 1: You come on, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: How many? How many total documents have been released in
Speaker 2: this since they started releasing them in this last one
Speaker 2: two weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh, you want the up to date number, because there's
Speaker 1: actually a date. Well, there was some released, there was
Speaker 1: some released I think yesterday as well. Let me let
Speaker 1: me go get the totals real fast here, okay, so
Speaker 1: that's uh, let's see eight hundred is fourteen, fourteen, fifty is.
Speaker 1: Let's see forty five, forty five, ninety is seventy five
Speaker 1: ninety and ninety. Well, let's see here thirty two. Okay,
Speaker 1: on the eighteenth, you got thirty two thousand pages. All right,
Speaker 1: you want the number of documents or the number.
Speaker 2: Of pages, just number of documents?
Speaker 1: Okay, the number of documents okay, Well that's a little
Speaker 1: difficult because some of these things are multiple things in
Speaker 1: PDF files. And then I had the pages in numbered,
Speaker 1: like on April third, which was yesterday, they released seven
Speaker 1: hundred and four more pages. Now I haven't even gotten
Speaker 1: to those. Now, those seven hundred and four pages account
Speaker 1: for two hundred and seven PDFs.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, has anybody that's been keeping count said, okay,
Speaker 2: this is what they released, this is what they think
Speaker 2: we've got, we think they've got left.
Speaker 1: Well, see, now, Morley was asked that question during this
Speaker 1: and he gave the most honest answer, which is, well,
Speaker 1: since they haven't been able to collect everything like they should,
Speaker 1: and the CIA is not in compliance, and there's other agencies,
Speaker 1: we don't know what the Yeah, I mean, he said
Speaker 1: that he thought hundreds of documents still remain unreleased, But
Speaker 1: I think that's a poor estimation because you don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know if it's hundreds or thousands more honestly now,
Speaker 1: of the eighty.
Speaker 2: Thousand, multiple hundreds over than.
Speaker 1: Likely, Yeah, easily. But the thing is of the eighty
Speaker 1: thousand that I'll say this, of the eighty thousand that
Speaker 1: Trump promised, we're pretty damn close to the eighty thousand
Speaker 1: pages now. So he did actually follow through on the
Speaker 1: number of pages just about.
Speaker 2: Because three does know how much is out there. He
Speaker 2: has no clue. Nobody's telling him.
Speaker 1: Well, no, he doesn't know. Look, I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: knows either. He knows less than these congress people, and
Speaker 1: these Congress people didn't know crap. So but it is
Speaker 1: what it is, you know what I'm saying. So look,
Speaker 1: sixty three, seventy three, seventy six, Okay, so you got
Speaker 1: seventy six thousand and another thousand. That's seventy seven thousand.
Speaker 1: There's about seventy eight thousand pages out there now, so
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's still some more stuff being scanned at NARA,
Speaker 1: and he'll probably break the eighty thousand mark, you know,
Speaker 1: either over the weekend or on Monday. We'll see another
Speaker 1: another drop. The one day on the twenty sixth of March,
Speaker 1: they only released fifty three pages. They must have some
Speaker 1: troubles there. But and we have not seen the new
Speaker 1: FBI documents, or at least we hadn't up until a
Speaker 1: few days ago, so they might have released those by now.
Speaker 1: But that was supposed to be an additional two thousand,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. We're not quite there yet. But
Speaker 1: then again, you know, somebody could have said seventy eight
Speaker 1: thousand and rounded it up and went, oh, it's eighty
Speaker 1: thousand to Trump. So this might be the whole thing
Speaker 1: that he was expecting. So we might indeed have the
Speaker 1: entire aa A RB you know, promised group.
Speaker 2: We might have that at Mary Ferrell. Are they are
Speaker 2: they putting this into a searchable part of their database, yes,
Speaker 2: so that you can you know, you can start putting
Speaker 2: in keywords, phrases, and dates and start pulling stuff up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: That's why it's taking extra time to upload it over there.
Speaker 2: But I would almost very fair or data. Where we
Speaker 2: got Oswald, it was like, oh yeah, yeah, man at
Speaker 2: the restaurant. Bullshit he was out of town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely you can already do that in
Speaker 1: a lot of cases. We have most of the information
Speaker 1: on Oswald now that you know, the CIA said they
Speaker 1: didn't have, and uh, you know, there's some stuff of
Speaker 1: interest here as I read further about some of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: has has.
Speaker 2: Anything that you've seen up till now changed your opinion
Speaker 2: of Oswalt's involved.
Speaker 1: To this point, I would say that I was a
Speaker 1: little more ambiguous as to whether the CIA was involved
Speaker 1: in moving him around or you know, actually being directly
Speaker 1: involved with him. Not anymore, I'm not, because they were
Speaker 1: not only monitoring his mail and putting him through certain
Speaker 1: paces where they were either getting ready to or they
Speaker 1: had already approached him to do work. You know, this
Speaker 1: whole thing that we had no idea this guy was
Speaker 1: and all this other crap is gone. That's off the table. Okay,
Speaker 1: because special investigations had his file and you know the
Speaker 1: person that grabbed the file and brought it to Angleton.
Speaker 1: I mean Morley's right about this is that we can
Speaker 1: effectively prove through the sign out sheets now that Angleton
Speaker 1: literally had Oswald's file on his desk two weeks before
Speaker 1: the assassination. So something is wrong here, and this claim
Speaker 1: of non involvement is bs that much I can say
Speaker 1: is changed for me, But everything else.
Speaker 2: Always felt that he was involved. I've never I could
Speaker 2: never put him up there full and you know, maybe
Speaker 2: he's the one that took the shot that missed who
Speaker 2: those But I've always thought he was involved in some
Speaker 2: manner and they involved him so that when it did happen,
Speaker 2: they had their Patsy right there.
Speaker 1: Well, but see that's the thing. How is he involved?
Speaker 1: Is he involved literally in some sort of operation that
Speaker 1: went wrong, or is he involved in an operation where
Speaker 1: he was intended to fall? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think he was involved in what he thought was
Speaker 2: an operation. Basically they were running him around and he
Speaker 2: was convenient for when the actual thing happened. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think he was part of the plan. He was
Speaker 2: part of the plan in that they put him there
Speaker 2: for reasons. So that when it all fell apart, he
Speaker 2: sent it hold the.
Speaker 1: Bag right right. And I'll tell you one other thing
Speaker 1: about this that Morley's been saying everywhere he goes lately,
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm gonna have to talk to him
Speaker 1: personally about this at some point. He believes Michael Francis
Speaker 1: regarding that claim about Jack Ruby, and it's bs and
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get this through to him.
Speaker 1: But Mike Princy's you know, he was a lucky guy
Speaker 1: because his father was already in the mob, all right,
Speaker 1: and he got to get in there and not have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of work because he was already
Speaker 1: the son of a powerful guy, all right, And he
Speaker 1: was not in the know regarding this. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was pretty much a known fact that our part
Speaker 1: in the assassination was to have Ruby disposed of Oswald.
Speaker 1: If the Italians were going to dispose of Oswald intentionally,
Speaker 1: and that was their part in the plot, I'm holding
Speaker 1: up air quotes three guys. Yeah, they would not have
Speaker 1: used Jack Ruby. That's silly. And Francis says, stuff, he's
Speaker 1: got a little business now, motivational speaking, think like a mobster,
Speaker 1: and you know you'll succeed in business. But don't forget
Speaker 1: I'm with christ now, you know, that's his whole business model,
Speaker 1: and he's got a thing about it. But he's full
Speaker 1: of crap regarding this JFK thing. Even if he was
Speaker 1: around some of these old mustaches and bragged like that,
Speaker 1: he's got to know that these guys talk, let's just
Speaker 1: be blunt. They talk shit me, pete. And even if
Speaker 1: a guy ever said that, it's not true. You know,
Speaker 1: Francis has no idea the Campezes are, has no idea
Speaker 1: what kind of business was being run in the South
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties when he didn't even come of age.
Speaker 1: Until what the nineteen eighties, Francis was involved. I mean
Speaker 1: he was involved with the maybe the seventies, he got
Speaker 1: involved with the whole gas business where you know, they
Speaker 1: were basically not paying the taxes and selling you know,
Speaker 1: unauthorized gasoline to gas nations and making a fortune. And
Speaker 1: it was a good racket. And he had car dealerships
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you know. But his whole thing,
Speaker 1: that Jack Ruby, that was our part in it, you know,
Speaker 1: as if you know the Lukes's or whichever one he
Speaker 1: was with. I forget at this point were actually, you know,
Speaker 1: involved in this. They were nowhere near Dallas. The people
Speaker 1: that the Campezes were involved in the business, he would
Speaker 1: have no idea what even business the Campezee brothers were in.
Speaker 1: And that's the guys who visited you know, Ruby right afterwards,
Speaker 1: you know, well, oh yeah, he visited Ruby when he
Speaker 1: was in jail. Every shot Oswald. So that's a connection
Speaker 1: right there. And it's like, no, the connection is the
Speaker 1: mobster comes down to sit and go to Ruby. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: I know you're in jail for whatever this is, but
Speaker 1: keeping your mouth shut about other stuff jack And Jack went,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm not stupid, and that was the end
Speaker 1: of that. This isn't okay. Don't worry. We took care
Speaker 1: of Oswald for the government. Now, Jack, everything's all right. No,
Speaker 1: that's just a bs man. So I don't care how
Speaker 1: many times Francis has said it, or he said it
Speaker 1: on Oh I've been on the Pierce Morgan Show with
Speaker 1: Mike Prancis and he said this, dude, Mike Francis doesn't
Speaker 1: even tell a clear story about a bunch of things
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to, because he's changed his life.
Speaker 1: He got out of prison, he says himself, he walked
Speaker 1: away from the life, and his father, up until very
Speaker 1: recently was still alive and still involved. Okay, so guess
Speaker 1: what Mike Francis would not do is betray this stuff
Speaker 1: like this, because remember, this is one of the guys
Speaker 1: who did make a deal with the government in that
Speaker 1: he admitted to all of his own wrongdoing, but he
Speaker 1: never took anybody else down. That's why he's still breathing. Okay,
Speaker 1: And Morley doesn't understand this. So oh well, Francis said,
Speaker 1: you know that our part was to hire Jack Ruby
Speaker 1: to get rid of Oswald. No, I don't care if
Speaker 1: Francis said it, and it'd be passed the light detector
Speaker 1: on and he's wrong. And all you got to do
Speaker 1: is know what the organization was like at that time
Speaker 1: to know. Nobody in Francis's universe would know this stuff anyway,
Speaker 1: It's just it's nuts, man. So anyways, look, we got
Speaker 1: Jimmy James on the line. You got anything else on
Speaker 1: your mind this week before we go to him and
Speaker 1: go to anybody else, which, by the way, anybody can
Speaker 1: join us. Three one nine, five two seven five zero
Speaker 1: one six. Love to talk to you about this or
Speaker 1: anything else. You guys out there, if you're hearing us
Speaker 1: live on the fourth day of April, please do join us.
Speaker 1: But anything else on your mind beat before we go
Speaker 1: to the caller.
Speaker 2: Well, not right off the bat, something couple across at
Speaker 2: a bit though. Yeah, let's hear it all from Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear from Jimmy. Maybe he's got something to
Speaker 1: say from this week. I know he was observing some
Speaker 1: of the same things I was, So we'll see what
Speaker 1: he's got to say. But then again, he might have
Speaker 1: something else on his mind. After all, we didn't get
Speaker 1: to talk about hard mountain dew this week. I was
Speaker 1: gonna talk to him about that because you know, Jimmy
Speaker 1: loves mountain dew.
Speaker 2: You know that, me, Pete, he's a Southern boy. Clark.
Speaker 1: Well, he just every day every time, like okay, we
Speaker 1: do this drink thing on the Uncle Show all the time.
Speaker 1: Anytime you ask Jimmy what he's drinking, it's mountain dew. Something,
Speaker 1: it's Baja blast, it's a Code Red, it's a you know,
Speaker 1: the mountain New Black when that was out. Whatever. He's
Speaker 1: always drinking mountain dew, no, no booze. But Mountain Dew.
Speaker 1: So I wonder what he thinks of the Hard Mountain
Speaker 1: Dew because that's got you know, that's like mountain dew
Speaker 1: and booze in it. Now they got it out there
Speaker 1: in one package. By the way.
Speaker 2: Oh I I haven't seen that yet. I'm amazed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's even got its own website. I
Speaker 1: think it's Hard Mountain Dew dot com if you want
Speaker 1: to go check it out.
Speaker 2: I got to ask if I got to ask if
Speaker 2: Jimmy's ever tried to cheer one.
Speaker 1: Well, let's find out. Let's get them on. Jimmy. How
Speaker 1: you doing this week? What's on your mind? I did
Speaker 1: want to ask you about the Hard Mountain Dew. I
Speaker 1: know you said you don't drink, but I mean what
Speaker 1: you might have thoughts on it since it is your
Speaker 1: favorite drink, mountain dew in and of itself. But otherwise
Speaker 1: you can talk about whatever you want. What's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Hey, Phillis, I'm just glad that my power was out
Speaker 4: for six days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sent me an email saying your power was
Speaker 1: out six days. I didn't know it was out for
Speaker 1: six days? What happened?
Speaker 4: Ice storms?
Speaker 1: Oh? Wow? Did you even see a news report on
Speaker 1: ice storms in Michigan. B Pete, I didn't see one.
Speaker 2: Oh, but they, I mean, theybe get This is the
Speaker 2: time of year, you know, March comes in like a
Speaker 2: line and goes out like a lamb. It's still it
Speaker 2: was still snowing up in New York. What yesterday, I think,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I remember distinctly a few times when it snowed real
Speaker 1: good again on my birthday, which is April seven. And
Speaker 1: that's weird in most parts of the country for snow
Speaker 1: to show up in April. But when I lived in Jersey,
Speaker 1: wasn't that uncommon? Went away fast when you lived out
Speaker 1: by the shore. But still it gets snow on the
Speaker 1: seventh of April, no problem, easter or snow in some cases, right,
Speaker 1: stuff that they wouldn't even know as snow. What is
Speaker 1: that in Georgia? Right, we've seen snow like twice in
Speaker 1: ten years here. So Jimmy, I'm glad that you did.
Speaker 1: You lived through it. But how was your experience with
Speaker 1: no power for six days? You lose anything, everything, all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I lost my mind out of boredom.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well you had your power the day of
Speaker 1: the day of the Congressional hearings, right, but I.
Speaker 4: Did buy a bunch of data so I could catch
Speaker 4: that thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so you were sitting in the dark
Speaker 1: listening to the or watching the hearings with your data.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to make sure to hear this thing.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: I also covertly broadcast the audio on here on ocelly
Speaker 1: dot com radio too, so you could have got it
Speaker 1: there for very little data because it doesn't cost us
Speaker 1: to stream my radio station, you know that, right, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't know you had to lie. No, I mean it's
Speaker 4: pretty early in the day, like when they start. That
Speaker 4: thing must have been like two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like one o'clock here, so it would
Speaker 1: have been like what noon, You're in Central time, right, No?
Speaker 4: Eastern?
Speaker 1: Oh you're still in Eastern I'm always confused by this,
Speaker 1: all right, Well then, yeah, it was like what twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock or it was either twelve or one o'clock in
Speaker 1: the afternoon when they started. But I made sure to
Speaker 1: get on and put the audio out, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I Oh, but I did listen to your podcast
Speaker 4: where you broke it all.
Speaker 1: Down that one I broke down, Well, I broke down
Speaker 1: just like twenty minutes out of the hour. I gave
Speaker 1: people an idea of what was going on, and I'm
Speaker 1: fairly satisfied I'm completely accurate about pointing out what was
Speaker 1: going on there. It was ridiculous from both sides. What
Speaker 1: did you think? Was I wrong?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: You kind of No, you were absolutely correct. I mean
Speaker 4: the thing stung my eyes and hurt my ears and head.
Speaker 4: Oh lord, yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Did you fish.
Speaker 4: People didn't know who Oliver Stone was, as you pointed out.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, the Democrats said, just wanted to talk about
Speaker 4: Elon Musk and Donald Trump and how great the CIA was.
Speaker 5: Uh uh.
Speaker 4: They didn't ask one single question from any of no
Speaker 4: serious question from any of the experts.
Speaker 1: Here's here, here's a bonus. Yeah, here's a bonus for you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Every Democrat said what in every one of their little
Speaker 1: statement slash alleged questions. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Every
Speaker 1: Democrat said that. Every Republican, okay, wanted to point out that, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, well Biden sucked at doing this too. And
Speaker 1: you know it was the Biden administration that didn't allow
Speaker 1: us to release stuff. And I was like, you kidding me, right,
Speaker 1: and like why are you doing this? Now, this is
Speaker 1: not the time for this crap. And uh yeah, Bobert
Speaker 1: with the old Stone Oliverstone and Rogerstone thing, did you
Speaker 1: did you see the visual took the cake? Did you
Speaker 1: see the visual on that? When I did have it?
Speaker 4: No, I just got power, like four in the afternoon.
Speaker 4: I just what can I say? I'm speechless. Look, I'll
Speaker 4: put that Roger Stone versus Oliver Stone.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Why are you on this community? Why are any of
Speaker 4: those people I'm this committee?
Speaker 1: See? Ultimately, that was my question. There was only the
Speaker 1: only one who knew anything about anything was Luna. Everybody
Speaker 1: else Democrat, Republican, you love him, you hate them, I
Speaker 1: don't care. All of them were clueless except for Luna.
Speaker 1: I was like, how you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: you know, the unification. It was bipartisan ignorance. They had
Speaker 1: no idea what they were talking about, no idea what
Speaker 1: they were asking about. The one guy was well read.
Speaker 1: Remember he had a stack of documents going, here's proof
Speaker 1: that the CIA lied right in the documents. Here's another
Speaker 1: thing that about this It was bull bull crap. Here's
Speaker 1: another thing that was bull crap. And he entered those
Speaker 1: into the record.
Speaker 4: The one guy there was that one Republican guy that
Speaker 4: kind of knew something right, and like you said, Luna
Speaker 4: knew a little more as far as am concern. Everyone
Speaker 4: else should have had an investigator or someone do their
Speaker 4: questionings for them because they just don't know what was
Speaker 4: the point of that.
Speaker 1: Well, two of them did have investigators, which is sad,
Speaker 1: and one of them is the representative from Dallas. That
Speaker 1: one lady was the rep from Dallas. You figure she
Speaker 1: might give a crap enough to know something, but no,
Speaker 1: the other guy had giant like post boards made up.
Speaker 1: Remember he had she had or no, he had Gugenio's
Speaker 1: tweet and some other crap, and he tried to gotcha
Speaker 1: them with these big giant displays and he was wrong
Speaker 1: about stuff, and I'm going this is a joke. And
Speaker 1: the other researcher was trying to hand notes to somebody
Speaker 1: during this thing, and they're asking the wrong questions about it. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: what proof do you have of any of your statements? Basically,
Speaker 1: has this changed your opinion at all? And they knew
Speaker 1: they didn't even know what their opinion is.
Speaker 4: Bob Marley, Bob Marley, that ain't his name. What the
Speaker 4: hell's his name?
Speaker 1: Bob Marley, Jefferson Morley, Jefferson Morley.
Speaker 4: Why did I call him Bob Marley. He's the opposite
Speaker 4: of Bob.
Speaker 1: Marley pretty much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but going by the power of Bob Marley, I
Speaker 4: command you, Jefferson Morley, to lo and behold and listen
Speaker 4: to me. Next time you say George Jodanedes as you
Speaker 4: call him, or else I'll call him or hey, ye
Speaker 4: that's Tim. You want to bring up his goings on,
Speaker 4: you might want to mention beyond the nineteen sixties. This
Speaker 4: man was running a operation on behalf of the CIA
Speaker 4: in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties aimed
Speaker 4: at Congress your dummies, the people, Operation babysitter, it's known,
Speaker 4: come on.
Speaker 1: And he was the CIA liaison to the House Select
Speaker 1: Committee on Assassinations.
Speaker 4: Yes, everyone keeps bringing up that he lied to what's
Speaker 4: the space professor X blah blah, the who cares? He
Speaker 4: lied to congress men every day.
Speaker 1: Well that is the House, that's it, Yep, exactly. And
Speaker 1: he was running anti Castro Cubans or whatever at a
Speaker 1: JM Wave. I mean, this guy's all over the place,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we should have his file in
Speaker 1: connection with this. I think it's relevant, you know. But
Speaker 1: that's the other point is that these people have no
Speaker 1: idea what it is we need to go after. You know,
Speaker 1: Luna's got her heart in the right place, right uh
Speaker 1: she she means well, and by the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she said a new favorite member.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're going to do another hearing, by the way,
Speaker 1: another public hearing. So I'm hoping that either they had yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a part two apparently, and Morley
Speaker 1: did a podcast last night where they announced that, and
Speaker 1: I went, oh, no, look, somebody, please, for God's sake,
Speaker 1: I will volunteer my time to educate any member of
Speaker 1: that committee that wants to know something, Okay, just please,
Speaker 1: I'll volunteer. I bet you I can get one hundred
Speaker 1: volunteers to educate the entire committee before they go into
Speaker 1: that hearing, before they have another meeting, any which way
Speaker 1: you want, twenty four hours a day, I bet you
Speaker 1: I can find you people to just explain things to you, okay.
Speaker 1: Because they knew nothing, and I mean nothing about the assassination,
Speaker 1: the evidence, what was actually out there, what could be proven,
Speaker 1: what's the point of all this? They knew nothing, didn't
Speaker 1: matter if they were the representative from Dallas, if they
Speaker 1: were the hotshot Maga congressperson, if they were the screaming Democrat.
Speaker 1: They all knew zero about this, and they're on the
Speaker 1: task force. I'm thinking, you got to pick the best
Speaker 1: people for the task force, right. If that's the best
Speaker 1: we have in Congress, then we don't have a We
Speaker 1: don't stand a chance of them ever wanting to release
Speaker 1: anything because they won't think anything's relevant because they wouldn't
Speaker 1: know what it was if it jumped up and bit them.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Okay. I'd like to point out that
Speaker 4: this is clearly one of the lowest rings of Congress
Speaker 4: there is. It has to be where's Speaker Johnson, where's
Speaker 4: the higher congressman? This is like literally the first term
Speaker 4: Congress people. Clearly they're not the top people don't want
Speaker 4: a serious investigation or anything.
Speaker 1: Well, Bobert's been in there a while, hasn't she? I mean,
Speaker 1: am I confused? She's been in there a while? Right?
Speaker 4: Oh, what's a while? Six years?
Speaker 1: Well, that's three that's three terms. And the lady from
Speaker 1: Dallas I don't think was brand new. Some of those Republicans. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not, but I know some of those Republican
Speaker 1: names have been around. The guy with the glasses has
Speaker 1: definitely been there a while because I've seen him on
Speaker 1: a bunch of intelligence related committees, and usually he knows
Speaker 1: something okay, But in this case, he knew a little
Speaker 1: bit just to touch more than you know, everybody else.
Speaker 1: But that was it. He was not well read on
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. And I'll say another thing, it
Speaker 1: was nice to see them at least go okay. You
Speaker 1: know what, Let's also recognize Oliver Stone actually served his
Speaker 1: country and you know, isn't just a whack job that
Speaker 1: we invited up here to laugh at, because that's kind
Speaker 1: of what they did to him in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and that also was the kind of annoying that
Speaker 4: they got all of this information wrong. The man wasn't
Speaker 4: in the damn army. He's in the Marine Corps. And
Speaker 4: he didn't do one year. He had sixteen years and
Speaker 4: Wikipedia could tell you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing they got right was his medals,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean the fact that he served
Speaker 1: and he did receive medals. He received a purple Heart,
Speaker 1: he received a bronze star, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: they tried to tell why don't you tell this story?
Speaker 1: And the guy had the story all wrong or whatever,
Speaker 1: But it's okay. At least they treated him like, not
Speaker 1: like a complete moron, because last time with the whole thing,
Speaker 1: they were like, look, you've annoyed us to death and
Speaker 1: you're a conspiracy wacko. So do you think everything's a conspiracy,
Speaker 1: mister Stone? I mean, that's how you you'd have to
Speaker 1: wrap up the questioning last time I saw him do this.
Speaker 1: This time they actually treated him with some level of respect.
Speaker 1: And do you jineo? He also got to say. And
Speaker 1: I'm not usually a fan of his anymore, but he
Speaker 1: at least told a decent story. Well you know, look
Speaker 1: you want an explanation, I'll give you one, and he did.
Speaker 1: But also letting them only work with five minutes.
Speaker 4: God give it to Jimmy d. He did the best
Speaker 4: speaking them there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll abrad trouble reading his notes,
Speaker 1: I know that, and he was having trouble hearing people,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's the usual forgetting to press their
Speaker 1: buttons on their microphones and all that. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was not a bad showing
Speaker 1: for the community in my mind, but as far as
Speaker 1: our Congress, I mean, it's hopeless. If this is the
Speaker 1: level of comprehension they have on anything else, it's a
Speaker 1: miracle anything gets done. I like what the one guy said, though.
Speaker 1: It was kind of funny where he said, you know, everybody,
Speaker 1: there's a certain group of people that wind up getting
Speaker 1: together and you know, try and get four people to agree,
Speaker 1: you know, in this situation on this and the guy says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get four hundred and twenty five people
Speaker 1: to get anything done. It's hard too, that's what we
Speaker 1: call congress. Found that line kind of funny coming from
Speaker 1: the congressman, but anyway, yeah, it was. It was remarkable
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, look, I take it, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy because Jeff is very positive about this at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, we do have somebody who's ahead of that
Speaker 1: committee that seems to give a crap and looks like
Speaker 1: she's doing her best to get out there what she can.
Speaker 1: But you know, but you got to you gotta have
Speaker 1: people that understand this a little bit, or at least
Speaker 1: get some staffers in there, or again, consult with somebody.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'll do it for free. I can see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the solution I need. I need some temporary duty.
Speaker 4: Just assign me to Senator jfk Oh.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's on the committee to Senator John
Speaker 1: Kennedy rights no presented with Kennedy. Excuse me? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. But he's like a third cousin or whatever.
Speaker 1: You're talking about, the John Kennedy who speaks with the
Speaker 1: southern accent, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so fun, I like, yeah, No, he's.
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting and he usually, you know, cuts to the
Speaker 1: chase on a lot of things. I like him, But
Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't think he's well read on
Speaker 1: this either, and he's not part of this whoever they
Speaker 1: want to put on. I don't even care. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: we could give them weekend crash courses and get them
Speaker 1: acclimated to at least some of the relevant stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't know the thing.
Speaker 4: He knows the law real good, that's jfk. He knows
Speaker 4: the law, and he can He's very good at questioning.
Speaker 4: I'd love to see him terror apart some of these
Speaker 4: beer crats. Yeah, your words, not mine. Give me my
Speaker 4: pup bucket.
Speaker 1: Yep. The other thing that was is the Democrats again,
Speaker 1: you know, just just like well, you know, the CIA
Speaker 1: is usually a good organization, and you don't seriously believe
Speaker 1: they would be involved in the assassination, do you, because
Speaker 1: it appears to me as though that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And they were like, no, we said that they participated
Speaker 1: in the cover up. Why don't you calm down? And
Speaker 1: if you don't believe that, then you don't know the material.
Speaker 1: And guess what, they don't know the material, so you know,
Speaker 1: mystery salt. Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I wished for a
Speaker 1: lot more, but what are you gonna do? And if
Speaker 1: this is the best we can do, again, somebody get
Speaker 1: through to them and say, look, people in the community
Speaker 1: would be more than happy to educate them for a
Speaker 1: little while. You know, you don't like the way I speak,
Speaker 1: no problem. I got somebody with a different accent from
Speaker 1: a different part of the world. If you want, who
Speaker 1: will explain the material? And I don't even care if
Speaker 1: it's somebody who agrees with me. These people don't know
Speaker 1: the basic facts, the history of the situation, Congress's role
Speaker 1: in it, okay, or anything else. I mean. The relevant
Speaker 1: question was asked randomly by one of those people when
Speaker 1: they went, well, do you think that we have compliance
Speaker 1: here at all?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, they're not in compliance. Many government agencies are not,
Speaker 1: including the CIA. Yes, that's true. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: why don't you subpoena some of these films from some
Speaker 1: of these you know TV networks that have clear copies
Speaker 1: of stuff and won't send them over to you know,
Speaker 1: researchers or anything because you know, CBS said they don't
Speaker 1: want to pay for the transfers. Whatever. Subpoena the stuff,
Speaker 1: they'll pay for the transfer okay, and we'll get it right,
Speaker 1: you know, do it?
Speaker 4: You have the power That picture from PBS TBS as
Speaker 4: a picture of Oswald the ferry that they have published.
Speaker 4: I want that picture, okay, you want that the other
Speaker 4: one and that the other.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many other films I guarantee you
Speaker 1: exist of different things that would you know, clear up
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of these stupid concepts about oh well
Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson went here at this time or afterwards or yeah,
Speaker 1: you the reporters were all over LBJ. You could track
Speaker 1: his every movement. I guarantee you. When he got off
Speaker 1: the plane that night, I know you've seen the footage.
Speaker 1: Not too many people have, but where he gives They
Speaker 1: played the clip where he goes, I'm gonna do my best,
Speaker 1: and that is all I can do. When he does
Speaker 1: that whole speech right by the plane, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Right, this is a sad time for all Americans, right
Speaker 4: except me, Marcans.
Speaker 1: And I am not reading this in any way at
Speaker 1: this time, but I will do my best, you know, disingenuous.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's all freight to God Almighty because you're gonna
Speaker 4: they need it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, I'm with you. But the thing is
Speaker 1: all this crap about Johnson and where he went and
Speaker 1: what he was doing. The reporters followed him. This is
Speaker 1: why we know he went to that you know, to
Speaker 1: the Vice President's residence, and then he parked in that
Speaker 1: other office building for the night when they got back. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could clear up all that stuff. You could clear
Speaker 1: up the ambulance is, you could clear up all the
Speaker 1: you know, the fantasies about helicopters. You could clear up
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff by subpoena in the films
Speaker 1: from some of these TV stations. And also you can
Speaker 1: solve prayer Man. You can solve prayer Man. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that now. That's what that NBC film is about,
Speaker 1: by the way, because there are people that claim, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are people that claim there's a figure standing on
Speaker 1: the street at the time the motor Kid's going by.
Speaker 1: That is Oswald.
Speaker 2: Standing on the street now, And he's not back up
Speaker 2: in the corner of the entrance to the well.
Speaker 1: He's he's standing outside of the book depository. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't have the specifics, but he might as well
Speaker 1: be on the street. Again, this is what these people
Speaker 1: are saying they saw and but but we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the original. And of course the TV station would have
Speaker 1: the good copy of it. If they still have the original,
Speaker 1: they've got the best film of it, so we might
Speaker 1: be able to see who the hell it is. It
Speaker 1: won't be blurry as it was so subpoena NBC.
Speaker 4: And I just want it. And to point out that
Speaker 4: there's a difference between doorway Man and prayer Man. Yes,
Speaker 4: the boys seep to thick. They're the same, dude, they
Speaker 4: are not once Billy love Lady and the other ones, well.
Speaker 1: Oswald, the other one something right, the other one's something
Speaker 1: one the one in the doorway is Billy Love Lady
Speaker 1: and the story. I'm sorry, I've seen the best copy
Speaker 1: of that possible, and it's Love Lady in the Doorway.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's obvious once she's seen Love Lady. I mean,
Speaker 4: before you see Love Lady, you're like, yeah, that does
Speaker 4: kind of look like OSWA. But then in a minute
Speaker 4: you see Love Lady, You're like, NAT's him.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: What's even worse is if you have like the AP
Speaker 1: version of that, and I used to have the AP print.
Speaker 1: You know that they sent to the Chicago Tribune, the
Speaker 1: one that the Chicago Tribune had. You can see that shirt,
Speaker 1: you know that shirt that they say, oh, this shirt's
Speaker 1: not in the photo. Blah blah blah blah. No, if
Speaker 1: you have a good like you know, whatever generation that
Speaker 1: is second generation from the Alkins film, If you have
Speaker 1: that and you magnify it, guess what, you can see
Speaker 1: that shirt it's in there. Okay, that's Love Lady in
Speaker 1: the Doorway. Now, Harold Weisberg made an honest mistake in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies working with what he was working with.
Speaker 1: But after that, that's Love Lady.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but he corrected himself.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: You gotta give wife credit. He did come back and
Speaker 2: say yeah, I was all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because later on he had a better access to
Speaker 1: a better copy. But at the time when he was
Speaker 1: working with the blurry thing. I can see how he
Speaker 1: thought that because if you look at that in general,
Speaker 1: you sort of match it up to the historical image
Speaker 1: of like Oswald's mugshot, and you go, oh, that kind
Speaker 1: of looks like I'm look at the hairline. I get it.
Speaker 1: But guess who else was going bald love lady? Okay,
Speaker 1: So and again I'm telling you. You know that shirt
Speaker 1: that they said, look at this crazy pattern on his
Speaker 1: shirt he said he was wearing that day. It doesn't match,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Yeah it does. Actually, if you
Speaker 1: got a good copy, it matches, which is what I
Speaker 1: tried to explain to Jim Fetzer on a stupid podcast.
Speaker 2: A guy that had a blade back when Ralph Olsen
Speaker 2: kay was you know, really hot and heavy with his
Speaker 2: go away man crap, I'm a chiropractor.
Speaker 1: He's standing the way Oswald should be standing. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well he took this guy lance upper cut.
Speaker 2: He took sue copies of Love Lady in the doorway,
Speaker 2: and he lined up the black lines and the white
Speaker 2: lines and the way they alternated, right, and he slowly
Speaker 2: brought those lines in and showed you where they were
Speaker 2: on this shirt. I mean, he's got it. He's done
Speaker 2: the best representation that I've seen of a blown up
Speaker 2: Alson's photo. So you exactly where the lines and Love
Speaker 2: Lady's shirt matches the lines and the shirt in the photograph.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I didn't see that. And you're talking about
Speaker 1: Lance Upperton because it's Upperton is the name that Homer
Speaker 1: Simpson used in a Simpsons episode. And he's got this
Speaker 1: slick black hair. It's like Homer Simpson with with like
Speaker 1: a pompadoo with like you know, the the brill cream hair. Right,
Speaker 1: he used to use that on the line.
Speaker 2: But he went by the name Lance Uppercut.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, but that's where he got it from. I
Speaker 1: know that, And I used to see that guy on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I never saw this presentation.
Speaker 2: Let me find the link. I'll cut it in one
Speaker 2: of my blogs. Let me find the link. I'll put
Speaker 2: it in the room.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I did it with the Jewelers loop and
Speaker 1: again the Chicago Tribunes copy from their file of that photo. Okay,
Speaker 1: I did it with that, and I even did it.
Speaker 1: I even re examined it on the air on the
Speaker 1: Real Deal with James Fetzer. When Fetzer's going, look at this.
Speaker 1: Don't you see this? This is guy's coming out of
Speaker 1: the wall over here. What do you say? I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: he's not, because I had a clear photograph. Where did
Speaker 1: you get yours from, jim Oh? I got it from,
Speaker 1: Oh god, the guy professor whatever's website, the lone nut guy.
Speaker 1: Remember that guy. He was actually pretty nice to me.
Speaker 1: John Adams there you go, what's that? Sorry, Jimmy, what
Speaker 1: did you say?
Speaker 4: I just said, John Amams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's that guy, the professor there who was
Speaker 1: the he was he was at the Kennedy School of
Speaker 1: Political uh Science or whatever, right, that guy and uh
Speaker 1: and he was like the bane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't his name, John Adams.
Speaker 1: It was something like that, but he was like.
Speaker 4: He was, uh, professor Marquette Marquette.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me look him up real fast.
Speaker 1: But he was nice to me and emails and stuff.
Speaker 4: He was weird. He was very, very conservative and very
Speaker 4: again talking about conspiracy hold on.
Speaker 2: He yeah, he passed away and he had JFK Google
Speaker 2: groups on his server.
Speaker 1: McAdams, McAdams, that's it, Mick Adams. Yes, yeah, John Mick Adams,
Speaker 1: that's the game.
Speaker 2: He caught a lot of hall over the years.
Speaker 1: No, and he was nasty to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But like I said, he was actually nice to me.
Speaker 1: And he would say stuff to me like, oh, you
Speaker 1: actually pay attention to the evidence, you know, like and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I do. Because he at first he
Speaker 1: thought I was, you know, because they were just calling
Speaker 1: us conspiracy coops and this and that when him and
Speaker 1: David von Pye were, you know, paling around together and
Speaker 1: they were just all over most of us. You know,
Speaker 1: look a conspiracy cook. Oh my god, John mccadams problem,
Speaker 1: Brah brah. And I don't know. I just had reasonable
Speaker 1: conversations with him. I mean I had reasonable conversations with
Speaker 1: Gary Mack too. In fact, he actually commended me on
Speaker 1: some of my work, Like I filled him on stuff
Speaker 1: he didn't know and he went, oh, I didn't know that,
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, here's the document on it. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Because I was trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: all the residents were in the dal text Building years
Speaker 1: ago when he was still alive, and uh yeah, Gary
Speaker 1: Mack and he was like, oh, that would be some
Speaker 1: interesting information if you can get all that together. And
Speaker 1: I was trying, but I never did because it's impossible.
Speaker 1: I got like half of the residents of the dal
Speaker 1: Text Building like confirmed, but there were people missing that
Speaker 1: Nobody knew who was occupying certain parts of that building,
Speaker 1: and it was like impossible to find out from the
Speaker 1: you know, from the owners at the time and the
Speaker 1: people that took it over at the sixth floor and
Speaker 1: everything else. Nobody knew who all the residents were. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we all know that Sappruter had a space there,
Speaker 1: but you know, anyway, it was a weird thing. And
Speaker 1: McAdams was again nice about stuff.
Speaker 4: Now. That Dallas Textile Building. I used to go there
Speaker 4: and visit the guy James Files. Oh god, he was
Speaker 4: always and he was always saying, I'm gonna get that JFK.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him.
Speaker 1: I bet you know. By the way, BPTE, you said
Speaker 1: you just heard the Clyde Lewis Show. Did you catch
Speaker 1: that part where I had to deal with the three callers,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh my god. I mean you
Speaker 1: could literally hear me face palming, couldn't you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I lied to you. Needed to tell Claude
Speaker 2: he's going to have you on the show, not to
Speaker 2: sit there and waste three quarters of a show on
Speaker 2: bullshit and go ahead and get you on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but that's that's the deal with him.
Speaker 1: Is he does this long thing that Ron Patten writes
Speaker 1: for him and oh, you know, JFK thinking back to
Speaker 1: that day and how the country's changed and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and he takes up, you know, in a
Speaker 1: fifteen minute segment. He uses ten of it just to
Speaker 1: do a monologue. And then he asked me to explain
Speaker 1: who I am and then starts asking questions. I've got
Speaker 1: five minutes. That it was short. I had less time
Speaker 1: than these people did in Congress with their five minute wait,
Speaker 1: you know, to explain anything. That's why I was talking
Speaker 1: so fast on there.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I was trying to get to everything as quick
Speaker 1: as as I could. But you notice I had to
Speaker 1: pick my battles. I mean, the one lady was doing
Speaker 1: fine until she went into Judy baker Land, which is
Speaker 1: what she was doing about Oswald was there to be
Speaker 1: a hero. He was a marine, And I went, oh god,
Speaker 1: all right, I know where you're getting this from, but no,
Speaker 1: you were doing fine up to there. And then the
Speaker 1: one guy, oh, James Files, he's dead now, but you
Speaker 1: know he was in prison. He gave a deathbed thing
Speaker 1: and they probably got rid of him. And I went,
Speaker 1: he's still alive. Do you hear that part? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And even worse was the he Howard Hutt gave it
Speaker 1: all up already, blah blah blah. I went deathbed confession.
Speaker 1: That guy was on his deathbed and he told the truth.
Speaker 1: And I went and when did he Howard hun tell
Speaker 1: the truth? He wasn't on his deathbed. I know things
Speaker 1: about that freaking tape that you don't, and you really
Speaker 1: need to study it because it's way to hell off.
Speaker 1: And Jim's James Sutton there. You know, he gave a count.
Speaker 1: It's based on what people thought they knew about the
Speaker 1: assassination that we have now disproven. So he's had to
Speaker 1: change his you know, Grassy Nole shooter story. And also
Speaker 1: you can't find these guys in the photographs, so good
Speaker 1: luck with that. And then Clyde checked it all off
Speaker 1: with the whole you know, switching JD. Tippet's body for Kennedy,
Speaker 1: and I went, oh god, But that was the end
Speaker 1: of the show. I couldn't do anything about it. Believe me,
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have had ten more minutes,
Speaker 1: even to tear into the rest of that. But you
Speaker 1: see what happens though, between tearing into the garbage. I mean,
Speaker 1: I almost prefer these people who got things all wrong
Speaker 1: because at least they know something even if they got
Speaker 1: the wrong information. That means all you need to do
Speaker 1: is correct their information. But these people that know nothing,
Speaker 1: they don't even know where to begin asking a question,
Speaker 1: you know, like which one is worse. That's why I
Speaker 1: put that thing on Facebook. BP. Did you see that
Speaker 1: I had Ai draw a picture.
Speaker 2: I told he I found the link. Yes, let's see.
Speaker 2: I found the link where Lamps did his line. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna copy this link and put it in the room.
Speaker 2: As to the mont blog that shows these photos, So
Speaker 2: you're gonna stroll down, so excellent about the third, third,
Speaker 2: or fourth photo down and you'll see the two photos
Speaker 2: that he made. And anyway you tell me, is that
Speaker 2: not one of the best representations of the lines and
Speaker 2: the shirt that you've.
Speaker 1: Seen, Well, I'll check it out because it's probably exactly
Speaker 1: what I did. Because okay, I had what they called
Speaker 1: a CCTV as a magnifier, and it's basically a little
Speaker 1: camera and you got this little sliding table under it
Speaker 1: and a small monitor. Okay, because these things were made
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties when you know, computer monitors were
Speaker 1: these big boxing things, and what it allowed you to
Speaker 1: do is blow things up to a pretty extreme level
Speaker 1: so that blind people could read fine print, okay, or
Speaker 1: nearly blind people could read fine print. And I use
Speaker 1: that on the photographs, plus a jeweler's loop in order
Speaker 1: to examine that thing. And like I said, it's clear
Speaker 1: as day that he's wearing the shirt he claim to wear,
Speaker 1: and it is clearly Billy Lovelady. And that's again, you're
Speaker 1: working with something that's very very tiny. That's a very
Speaker 1: small area of the photograph itself, and the wire photo
Speaker 1: version of it is almost an eight by ten the
Speaker 1: Alkins photo almost and you take the something about the
Speaker 1: size of a I don't know, maybe a nickel, something
Speaker 1: about the size of a nickel, maybe a quarter. It
Speaker 1: could be a quarter somewhere between a nickel and a
Speaker 1: quarter an area on that photograph, and that's where you
Speaker 1: can see that it's Love Lady or Oswald on about
Speaker 1: an eight by ten black and white.
Speaker 2: Now, you know the thing is, though, all you've got
Speaker 2: to do is look at the individual in that picture
Speaker 2: and seek the widows peak. Oswald didn't have a reverse
Speaker 2: widows peak and thin and hair right, but Love Lady
Speaker 2: had the reverse widows peak, and it's clear as a
Speaker 2: bell in that photo when you blow it up right,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't understand the confusion that people had.
Speaker 2: Now I agree with Jimmy. When you first look at
Speaker 2: the photograph, depending on which clarity, which photographs you've got,
Speaker 2: which copy you've got a copy of, yep, you know,
Speaker 2: some aer clearer than others. But when you look at
Speaker 2: the best representations of that, you see that reverse widows
Speaker 2: peak right off the bat. You might think it's Oswaldt,
Speaker 2: But as soon as you see a picture of Billy Lovelady,
Speaker 2: it's that's him. No.
Speaker 1: And that's the funny part is once you see it,
Speaker 1: your brain reorients and you can always see it now,
Speaker 1: even in the bad copies. And that's why I crack
Speaker 1: me up with again with Fetzer because on his show
Speaker 1: he's telling me, oh, I see this and I see that.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? The thing that always killed
Speaker 1: me is there's a black man who's coming out of
Speaker 1: the wall. And I'm like, Jim, look what you have.
Speaker 1: There is a bad copy. Where did you get it? Oh,
Speaker 1: I got it from John McAdams website. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: so you're telling me I'm working with a chemical print
Speaker 1: of a photograph from the nineteen sixties. You're working with
Speaker 1: a digital representation that John McAdams, you know, again not
Speaker 1: the greatest webmaster in the world, regardless of what you
Speaker 1: thought of him. And also his stuff was built on
Speaker 1: a platform that was designed in nineteen ninety eight, and
Speaker 1: you're telling me that your digital photograph is showing you
Speaker 1: stuff that mine Isn't get the hell out of here, Jim,
Speaker 1: And he's tried to do a gotcha on me on
Speaker 1: his show. You know, well, I'll go after the guy
Speaker 1: for his visual problem. It's almost like you went after me, thinking, well,
Speaker 1: the blind guy's not going to argue with me. But
Speaker 1: guess what.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is. The funny thing is, though he
Speaker 2: supports Judas who's blind as a fucking bath in her
Speaker 2: pixel analysis or she proves it's it's.
Speaker 1: Tool, Yeah right, her pixel aal. Is that even still
Speaker 1: up online anywhere? I mean, did she take it down
Speaker 1: out of embarrassments?
Speaker 2: It's on one of those damn nine thousand blogs she
Speaker 2: had up at one time. I think I ran across
Speaker 2: it about a year or so ago. It's still up, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know they keep glad. I saved these two photos
Speaker 2: from Lance Uppercut because had a blog, and it's not
Speaker 2: he didn't renew it. It's you can't. It's not online anymore.
Speaker 2: So at least I've got these two photos here to
Speaker 2: anybody that wants to see it and can look at
Speaker 2: the the job he did. I mean, he just made
Speaker 2: a little gift showing how these lines line up and
Speaker 2: how sections of the shirt and other pictures line up
Speaker 2: with the Auchins photo. Good work got to give him
Speaker 2: that look at that.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's in the wayback machine on the
Speaker 1: internet archive uppercuts thing is still there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll have to I'll try trying to
Speaker 2: find it. But I just went to because I had
Speaker 2: a link to it on my blog and I just
Speaker 2: clicked on it and it said not available.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, of his hold on a second, because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the ralph sink with a remake of He's
Speaker 1: Got a Little there's a video here taken down. If
Speaker 1: it was ridiculed by many, he remade the video. I
Speaker 1: don't normally directly linked to the idiot stuff, but I'll
Speaker 1: make an exception for this. That's your words. This is
Speaker 1: too funny.
Speaker 2: On my favorites list, No, but.
Speaker 1: I'm just I find it funny because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: sin k and he's clearly using an inferior piece of
Speaker 1: craft photo.
Speaker 2: Also, of course, he used the worst photo he could
Speaker 2: find on everything he did, just so he could say
Speaker 2: there were things in there that nobody else could see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's rough. He In fact, here's what's
Speaker 1: said about his bad photograph. Is you know how you're
Speaker 1: talking about the reverse widows peeking all that, The fact
Speaker 1: that Oswald Okay, I don't know if people notice this,
Speaker 1: but there's a difference in his hairline on the right
Speaker 1: side of his head versus the left side of his head.
Speaker 1: So if you're looking at it and you're facing him,
Speaker 1: it's the left side of the screen like you know
Speaker 1: his left okay, but it's his physical right hand side.
Speaker 1: There's a difference in the hairline that is clearly not
Speaker 1: present even in the blurriest photograph of Oswald. But if
Speaker 1: you look at Love Ladies Again hairline, it makes a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more sense with the hairline even
Speaker 1: with the blur. I never noticed that before. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: hilarious to me.
Speaker 4: Because again, if anybody's got a copy of that interview
Speaker 4: fetch Er did with aj Delsa, I'd like a copy
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll try and find it for you later.
Speaker 1: Send me an email to remind me, because I got
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff I got to look up and
Speaker 1: download this uh this weekend, And one of the things
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do also is download the new uh. I'm
Speaker 1: going to download again the zip file and get a
Speaker 1: second copy of the last documents that were dropped. But
Speaker 1: because I haven't opened that last zip file yet. Uh
Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah, send that to me and I'll
Speaker 1: get it with the rest of my research this weekend
Speaker 1: because I'm still working on stuff. But it's hilarious when
Speaker 1: you when you actually see a good copy of that photo.
Speaker 1: Though you can see that damn ridiculous shirt that he's wearing. Okay,
Speaker 1: which was I don't think it was all that uncommon
Speaker 1: shirts like that back then, but you can literally see
Speaker 1: it in the you know, in a good photo. Really,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't understand this how they're still
Speaker 1: doing like I said in the seventies, the eighties, I
Speaker 1: can understand, I can forgive, But anybody who made that
Speaker 1: argument afterwards, I mean, we we had access to a
Speaker 1: lot of things, and I bought stuff from newspaper archives
Speaker 1: for a reason. You know, it was the best copy
Speaker 1: I was going to get without spending one thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to go, you know, track down a photographer and get
Speaker 1: a print from his original roles.
Speaker 2: Well, that's something that I don't understand with a lot
Speaker 2: of these guys that have come out trying to do
Speaker 2: the photo analysis of this or that photo. And that's
Speaker 2: what got me into it, because I was reading some
Speaker 2: of the stuff these guys were coming up with. It
Speaker 2: was like, you have no clue as to how photography works.
Speaker 2: You don't understand perspective, you don't understand you, you don't
Speaker 2: understand focal nothing. You know, you're taking a thirty five
Speaker 2: millimeter negatives basically, yep, you know, which is what one
Speaker 2: point two inches by one point eight inches and blowing
Speaker 2: that thing up to get some of the clarity that
Speaker 2: we've got in these photos.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: It's like they go out of their way to find
Speaker 2: the worst coffee pop. Yeah, And I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're gonna argue that something's in a photo,
Speaker 2: you would think you'd want the best damn coffee you
Speaker 2: could get, get a copy of the actual photo. It
Speaker 2: just amazed me some of the stuff that I've read.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you see this in the picture, you know,
Speaker 2: the stuff about bushes in the picture outside of the
Speaker 2: school book depository. Yeah, this kid was Bush junior, and
Speaker 2: it's just all read. I don't know. You wonder how
Speaker 2: people go off on his tangents sometimes.
Speaker 1: Well, I know how they went off. Look, I know
Speaker 1: how they went off on the tangents. Okay. And the
Speaker 1: thing is it's Robert Groden. Because Groden did that whole
Speaker 1: thing with you know, here's a couple of people that
Speaker 1: look like they're in the crowd. And as soon as
Speaker 1: he did that, other people followed through and and started
Speaker 1: looking for other figures in the crowd. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like the same people. You notice, by the way, you're
Speaker 1: not really hearing too much from the bad Bushka lady anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One she got really sick, apparently,
Speaker 1: and two a bunch of people have figured out I
Speaker 1: can't be her. And also, if you really examined a
Speaker 1: good array of photos from that day, as I've said
Speaker 1: many times, there's not one bibushka lady in the group.
Speaker 1: There's at least four four women with those headscarves on. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. And you got to track all
Speaker 1: of them. You track all of them, and you get
Speaker 1: better pictures of them in different spots. Not the relevant
Speaker 1: ones that you used to seeing, not the ones when
Speaker 1: even Kennedy's motorcate is going by, but pictures people took
Speaker 1: before and after the motorcade, even of people just milling
Speaker 1: around in the area. And you guess what, You get
Speaker 1: better shots of people, and you can compare them. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much of a disguise
Speaker 1: she would have to be wearing that day to get
Speaker 1: away with it, But you know, did they give her
Speaker 1: fake noses and stuff too? Because I'm telling you the
Speaker 1: one lady's got a broken nose pretty bad. I can
Speaker 1: clearly tell she must broken as a child, and nobody
Speaker 1: knew how to set it right because it's crooked her
Speaker 1: nose and it's not the photo. It's not an illusion.
Speaker 1: It's her nose is crooked and that's definitely not her,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Uh, it's not Beverly at all.
Speaker 2: Now, look at that age she was supposed to be
Speaker 2: then and the woman in the photo, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: thet lady has now become the Baboosta chick.
Speaker 1: The hell of a difference there, Yeah, because she's sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen she would have been at the time, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this man who looks like.
Speaker 4: She she lies about that even she was fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: listen to the hsc A cassette of her. Right, she
Speaker 4: had to give all the real.
Speaker 1: Well because they would have automatically nailed her for that
Speaker 1: wasn't your age at least, you know, because that that
Speaker 1: they could prove right away. But the point is on already,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And people will still want
Speaker 1: to even argue with that. No, she's the real Babushka
Speaker 1: lady and no blurry pictures, so many blurry pictures. I
Speaker 1: almost thought of writing a book on the blurry pictures.
Speaker 1: By the way, I actually think that would sell me. Pete,
Speaker 1: what do you think a book just on the blurry
Speaker 1: photos that have been alleged to be this one, that one,
Speaker 1: the third one.
Speaker 2: What do you think it probably would?
Speaker 1: You know, like a couple of chapters on E. Howard Hunts, right,
Speaker 1: because there's like three guys they say were Howard Hunt
Speaker 1: coffee table book? Right, Yeah, definitely, I think I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch that, you know, as soon as
Speaker 1: we get through this year's Lancer.
Speaker 4: Here's a question for the here's a question for the boats.
Speaker 4: Let's stick to the because I had just what was
Speaker 4: on my phone to listen to for the last six days,
Speaker 4: so I was listening to some more harder gate hearings
Speaker 4: to kill time. Listenind Old Bernard Barker. Boy, he sure
Speaker 4: thought that E. Howard Hunt was high high up there.
Speaker 4: Is that because he was just a dummy and solo
Speaker 4: down or because he Howard Hunt was lying as bought
Speaker 4: off to him? Or was he really high up there?
Speaker 4: Because my understanding is he was. He's like a case officer.
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, no, he was like a case officer. But yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you're correct.
Speaker 4: And then Barker actually referred to him as the highest
Speaker 4: of the military guys to strike on the Bay of Pigs.
Speaker 4: I think he wasn't even there. How you telling them
Speaker 4: about give us our day? Right?
Speaker 1: Look, the thing is Jimmy about all that. You ever
Speaker 1: see that HBO series they did like just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. No, well, they did an HBO series
Speaker 1: on Watergate and they got a guy on there, I
Speaker 1: swear to god, is a dead perfect ringer for you know,
Speaker 1: for one of the guys on there. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 1: But if you watch it, you get a sense, a
Speaker 1: real sense of like all this bragging they all used
Speaker 1: to do, you know, g Gordon Lytting and and him.
Speaker 1: They had a certain way of carrying themselves like they
Speaker 1: were super important, like they were super intelligent, like they
Speaker 1: were the strictest operators, and they sort of sold this
Speaker 1: to a lot of people as like you know, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been associated everything, and that's the way it goes,
Speaker 1: you know, the joke of it. If I tell you
Speaker 1: I have to kill you, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like Berker, like one time, he said, well, Senator, all
Speaker 4: of us that smell of great. Uh. What's his fake name?
Speaker 1: Which one?
Speaker 4: What's his stupid Spanish name? Oh? Is fake name? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh you mean Hunt's a Spanish name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's war name.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't remember it, but very relevant.
Speaker 1: I wish Eduardo. Yes, yes, that was at least part
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, Eduardo. Everybody knows Eduardo. Yep, true true story.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should see if you can send me copies
Speaker 1: of those Watergate tapes. I haven't listened to stuff like
Speaker 1: that in a while. Tell you what we're gonna do, though,
Speaker 1: really quick, is take just one break, because we haven't
Speaker 1: taken a break, and we're like an hour and twenty
Speaker 1: in at least here. Uh, and the age of transitions
Speaker 1: is coming up at ten o'clock and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on on that sh this week or
Speaker 1: the Uncle show. I know that they don't have guest
Speaker 1: scheduled as far as I've been told, but looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing what they got to say. And that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do all the way up to ten pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: Anything you want to say before we take a break
Speaker 1: real quick, be pete.
Speaker 2: No, no, let's go ahead and slide in the bike
Speaker 2: right now, searching for the the rest of the name Eduardo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he's right about that. It
Speaker 1: was like everybody knows this guy, but these guys sold
Speaker 1: themselves as independent operators. You know. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like the same sort of deal that the guy that
Speaker 1: Garrison tried to subpoena and tried to have him extradited
Speaker 1: from Ohio. You know, like he was never technically Gordon Ovell.
Speaker 1: He was never technically in the CIA, he was never
Speaker 1: technically with this or that organization, but he was in
Speaker 1: the know enough and was able to sell himself as
Speaker 1: an independent operator, you know, to the point where at
Speaker 1: one point he was actually involved with what was his name, DeLorean,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who created the DeLorean, the Back
Speaker 1: to the Future car. Like he got himself in a
Speaker 1: lot of weird situations, Gordon Novel because he was a
Speaker 1: great like a BS artist and just would talk himself
Speaker 1: into you know, I'm a very sophisticated electronics guy, and
Speaker 1: I made tape recording equipment that the Nixon White House wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, because it was so sophisticated. And Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: Gordon Obel g Gordon Liddy g Gordon Liddie was a
Speaker 1: weird guy. I met him once, and I'm telling you
Speaker 1: they nailed his personality, even though I met him when
Speaker 1: he was much older. They nailed his personality in that
Speaker 1: HBO show, I mean perfectly.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: And they had Woody Howson playing I Howard Hunt. So
Speaker 1: leave that to your imagination. Anyway, the Ocelli bec will return,
Speaker 1: and when we do, hopefully we'll get calls from you.
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Speaker 1: My co host Ppete is with me and uh, I
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Speaker 1: pete anything else you got on your brain before we
Speaker 1: uh run right the hell out of time here, which
Speaker 1: we're going to do well.
Speaker 2: I was just reading a story during the break there
Speaker 2: where this guy was busted in twenty eighteen. His name,
Speaker 2: let's see, Jeffrey Anstead. Apparently in twenty seventeen, and this
Speaker 2: is the description. Jeffrey instead herded his family into a
Speaker 2: private playing bound for the Cayman Islands. The owner of
Speaker 2: an Ohio based telecommunications company. It purchased the Sessina Jet
Speaker 2: one year earlier for eight million, and it became his
Speaker 2: go to method of communing to Florida and Maryland and
Speaker 2: other places. His local travel was done in a two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars Ferrari, and apparently he was
Speaker 2: busted let's see, by the Federal Communications Commission in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: which found he had paid for his lavish lifestyle included
Speaker 2: the jet and Ferrari by ambazzling millions from the agency's
Speaker 2: Universal Service Fund, a little known program that subsidizes phone
Speaker 2: and internet access for low income customers. He had signed
Speaker 2: up dead people for service and even fabricated sold security
Speaker 2: numbers in order to obtain subsidence from the program. And
Speaker 2: he'd transferred from his company, American Broadband, into his personal account,
Speaker 2: and the FCC was watching him do this stuff. It's
Speaker 2: just amazing how much he ripped him off for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a bunch of guys that did this.
Speaker 1: They were going around with this con where they would
Speaker 1: show up, knock on your door and be like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know because they go to bad neighborhoods and be
Speaker 1: like you guys don't have internet, do you? Well, you
Speaker 1: want internet? We've got it real super cheap or free.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they charge people for free internet, and sometimes
Speaker 1: they signed them up whether they actually signed up or not.
Speaker 1: And they were getting addresses and just some personal information
Speaker 1: from people. And this is how some people's identity theft
Speaker 1: got initiated, was through this whole internet free and low
Speaker 1: cost internet con job that went on. Which was funny
Speaker 1: because in like twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, they initiated
Speaker 1: another program where they gave like these little subsidies and
Speaker 1: they just gave them right to people where they gave
Speaker 1: them like a fifty dollars credit against their internet bills
Speaker 1: for a little while. I actually had one for about
Speaker 1: a year where I got fifty bucks off of my
Speaker 1: bill every month, but it didn't account for much because
Speaker 1: I pay a huge amount of money for my stupid internet.
Speaker 1: Which is hilarious because Kim realized this week she went
Speaker 1: streaming stuff and we got a warning we had used,
Speaker 1: you know, more than half of our data for the month.
Speaker 1: And she's like, how that happened? What you got to
Speaker 1: shut this off? But I said, I'm not streaming anything
Speaker 1: unusual and I've been doing this for years. You are
Speaker 1: running TV shows through a streaming service, Well, why does
Speaker 1: that make a difference. Well, because that's how they get you.
Speaker 1: You go ahead and sign up for a communication company
Speaker 1: and they'll get you by metering how much you're you're
Speaker 1: using outside of their services. So even when they people say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just buy channels for five dollars apiece
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, Yeah, that's great, but you're going
Speaker 1: to wind up paying for it in your data. So
Speaker 1: either way, they got you. You know, I found this
Speaker 1: story interesting. Well, I found another story interesting and sorry, what.
Speaker 2: You know, for what they charge for the day should
Speaker 2: be illegal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be, but it hasn't been, and it's
Speaker 1: been expanding. And you want to talk about inflation. I mean,
Speaker 1: I went from an eighty dollars bill to like three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in the course of a couple of years,
Speaker 1: and now it's even higher, by the way, and I
Speaker 1: think I just got a notice saying they're going to
Speaker 1: jack it up again next year, you know. And thanks
Speaker 1: FCC for all your hidden charges, even though I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought you were only supposed to just yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the FCC is part of the part of the plan.
Speaker 1: They get a piece of everything. Anyway. Speaking to broadcasters
Speaker 1: and funny stories, did you see h this one? And
Speaker 1: I'll drop the story in the room because I was
Speaker 1: going to read this on the news show, but instead
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you guys here suspect arrested for
Speaker 1: threatening to bomb Saturday Night Live studio. Police say, did
Speaker 1: you see this.
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I heard it? Huh, all right, well, let me
Speaker 1: drop the story in the room. I'll read a little
Speaker 1: bit of it. But it's funny and I've even got
Speaker 1: an audio piece here that I'll play real fast. Maybe
Speaker 1: I should just play the audio first. Yeah, I'll play
Speaker 1: the audio first from NBC about you know, them being
Speaker 1: targeted for a bomb threat. So, but they were targeting
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. So let's get the lowdown from NBC.
Speaker 11: Aman is under rust for allegedly threatening to bomb the
Speaker 11: Saturday Night Live studios right.
Speaker 1: Here freaking commercial. Hold on a second, it starts. You
Speaker 1: see that, I got ten seconds of a video and
Speaker 1: then I'm in commercial again. You know I'm gonna back
Speaker 1: it up and start it again. Okay, guys, just hang
Speaker 1: on a minute. Hopefully they don't give me another commercial
Speaker 1: because I backed it up, you know, fifteen seconds. All right,
Speaker 1: let's see Amanda's go ahead play it.
Speaker 11: Man under rust for allegedly threatening to bomb the Saturday
Speaker 11: Night Live studios right here at thirty Rock. The NYPD
Speaker 11: has identified him as forty eight year old Michael Branham.
Speaker 11: Documents filed in California show that's the same name and
Speaker 11: age of a man whom Scarlett Johansson had previously accused
Speaker 11: of stalking.
Speaker 1: The actress is married to SNL star Colin Jost.
Speaker 11: Law enforcement sources telling NBC News the threat against SNL
Speaker 11: was deemed though not credible. Brandom is due back and
Speaker 11: court coming up on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's pretty funny. Scarlett Johansson's husband is one
Speaker 1: of these guys on SNL and if you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with him, he does it with with with another guy,
Speaker 1: the Weekend Update. Here, here's a little piece of weekend Update.
Speaker 1: Good evening everyone that I'm Michael j Collin Jos, Michael Jay,
Speaker 1: and Colin Jost, not Yost Jost. All right, so he's
Speaker 1: the white guy on Weekend Update.
Speaker 12: Well, this week we learned our entire national security team
Speaker 12: has the texting skills of my auntie It. Secretary of
Speaker 12: Defense Pete Hegsat seen here indicating how many days since
Speaker 12: his last drink. Detailed sent a detailed attack plans for
Speaker 12: an airstrike in Yemen to a text chain that accidentally
Speaker 12: included the editor of the Atlantic magazine, of all people
Speaker 12: to accidentally add to the chat, it was the editor
Speaker 12: of the Atlantic. That's like, if you were planning a
Speaker 12: surprise Keen Sania and you see see Jared from subway.
Speaker 1: Well all right, that's a pretty good joke right there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's the guy, and he's apparently married to
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson. I have no idea why, but he is anyway,
Speaker 1: so there you go. Saturday Night Live was apparently, you know,
Speaker 1: bomb threat. But the weird part about that story BP
Speaker 1: to me is the cops are like, yeah, but the
Speaker 1: bomb threat wasn't even credible, so like, so they're sending
Speaker 1: him to court and arresting him and everything else, but
Speaker 1: it's a not a credible bomb threat. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 2: Oh and how justice dances on the head of a bin,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what else to say. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: bring Jimmy James back on. Did you have anything else
Speaker 1: you wanted to throw in besides the internet scam? Guys?
Speaker 1: All right, so Jimmy, glad you're still with us and
Speaker 1: we're gonna run out probably the rest of the show
Speaker 1: with you unless somebody else drops in. But what do
Speaker 1: you think of those two quick stories we dropped into
Speaker 1: the discussion? Or you got something else you want to
Speaker 1: bring up?
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know about the threat. Joe Scars stalker
Speaker 4: coming across country to find his little lady again?
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, jost Jost, Right, doesn't that strike you as strange.
Speaker 1: The guy's name is Jost. I mean, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's like he really it's supposed to be a silent
Speaker 1: I bet you it's supposed to be a silent Jay.
Speaker 1: And you got sick of everybody else saying Jost, so
Speaker 1: he just adopted it. But he is like the one
Speaker 1: of the whitest human beings I've ever seen on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. Also he's like clearly, I mean, they put
Speaker 1: the whitest guy with the blackest looking guy they could
Speaker 1: to balance out the SNL weekend up date? Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Said the displeasure of seeing what they call update
Speaker 4: these days pretty sad, Yeah, pretty sad from the days
Speaker 4: of Steavy Chase, Dennis Miller, Dennis Soliary, the great Norman Donald.
Speaker 4: Now you got this crap.
Speaker 2: Normal Michael j I gotta give him. Michael Jay is
Speaker 2: pretty good stand up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, he's good. And you know what was
Speaker 1: the funny they they did? Look usually they're not all
Speaker 1: that funny, they're just sort of clever. Like really, they
Speaker 1: went through five jokes before they got me with a
Speaker 1: good one there. And I was talking about comedy last
Speaker 1: night on the podcast. But the best thing I've ever
Speaker 1: seen them do is they they wrote intentionally offensive things
Speaker 1: for each other to read on like Christmas, and they
Speaker 1: made each of them like read it. So they made
Speaker 1: Colin Joe's do yo, girlfriend, I'm on fia yo. And
Speaker 1: like they made him try to do like, you know,
Speaker 1: ghetto talk the white guy and between.
Speaker 4: That and like I've seen that clip and they and
Speaker 4: they seen that clip. They've seen them. They do that
Speaker 4: every year. They yeah, this year they did one where
Speaker 4: he says, it's in quotes black talk, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: believe in slave reprimation. Who's gonna be paying me back
Speaker 4: for all them slaves that ran off?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things he made him say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want reparations for slavery. Who's gonna pay me back
Speaker 1: for all the slaves I lost? He's like totally losing
Speaker 1: it because it's like the worst thing ever. And then
Speaker 1: the other one he's got him. They're both doing offense,
Speaker 1: like completely offensive stuff, and like you know, and and
Speaker 1: Shay is like, yeah, because I want to see pictures
Speaker 1: of eleven year old girls, like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: are these guys doing? That was funny to me, But
Speaker 1: usually it's like they got to throw five jokes before
Speaker 1: they even get me with. Okay, that was clever and
Speaker 1: I liked it, but anyway, usually not so funny. And
Speaker 1: I just can't believe he's married to Scarlett Johansson. I
Speaker 1: don't know why that sticks with me. It's like, how
Speaker 1: did that happen? You know, it's almost like that Pete Davidson.
Speaker 4: You understand that last fifteen twenty years, these SNL they
Speaker 4: aren't this says it's Saturday Live. These people are being
Speaker 4: paid millions of dollars, whereas in the seventies, dan Ackroyd
Speaker 4: and Chevy Chase used to work for two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty dollars a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, the guys who worked on there in the
Speaker 1: seventies couldn't even barely go to McDonald's at the end
Speaker 1: of a week's work. You know, a freaking Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: These guys make way more money. And there's like forty
Speaker 1: people on the cast. Now that's the other thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, they used to be like the big announcement,
Speaker 1: John Belushi and Dan Akroyd and there was like seven people.
Speaker 1: Nowadays it's like, here's these ten people and featuring these
Speaker 1: ten people and also these other ten people plus you know,
Speaker 1: occasional guests on and then the twenty.
Speaker 4: Some odd crew gets screwed over because they don't even
Speaker 4: get to do bits because they call in all these
Speaker 4: celebrities now that they got on their roll of decks. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 4: favorite celebrities. Let's have Alec Baldwin play Trump instead of
Speaker 4: one of the cast members. YadA, YadA, YadA, right, just
Speaker 4: part of it. It's just they diverted too far from
Speaker 4: the the secret of their success.
Speaker 1: No way too far. And the surprising thing is, and
Speaker 1: I was a little shocked at this. They've been around
Speaker 1: fifty years. I didn't realize it was that long, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about it because look, I'm going to be on Monday,
Speaker 1: i'll be fifty three. But I'm fifty two years old,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, this is one of those
Speaker 1: things that's actually been around my entire life pretty much,
Speaker 1: And like, I barely realized it because for about twenty years,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it, didn't care, didn't notice it nothing
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, not even you know, not even a
Speaker 1: little bit. After they lost those people in the eighties,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Eddie Murphy time and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And then I guess Mike Myers was
Speaker 1: in there too for a little bit, you know, in
Speaker 1: the Wayne's World and all those guys. Like once they
Speaker 1: lost a certain era of that show. I was done
Speaker 1: until like ten years ago, and even then I would
Speaker 1: only pay attention to the clips on YouTube. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've watched a whole Saturday Night Live except
Speaker 1: like when Elon Musk was on, or when Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: was on, since the days when Sam Kinnison hosted it once,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a long time ago, so
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's like forty people on the cast,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's.
Speaker 4: Like that's That's one of the reasons that Lauren Michaels
Speaker 4: just won't retire. He doesn't want to because he knows
Speaker 4: the minute he does, they're gonna cut that thing I have.
Speaker 4: If not outright cancel the thing, no, probably immediately cut
Speaker 4: it in half. See if it could still stumble along
Speaker 4: another year.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, just like I got you. But just like
Speaker 1: I volunteered to educate JFK, you know the Congress people
Speaker 1: on JFK, I'll tell you what, I'll also volunteer to
Speaker 1: explain to people at NBC, Lauren Michaels, whoever you want
Speaker 1: that the math for more funny is not add more people,
Speaker 1: more writers, and more you know, stars to your show.
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily equal more funny. It's quality, not quantity.
Speaker 1: But I'll explain that math, you know, anytime, except if
Speaker 1: it's NBC you're paying me. I'll do the thing for
Speaker 1: Congress for free. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good fiftieth anniversary this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. I couldn't believe it's been
Speaker 1: around fifty years. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, look at this. This hit me to
Speaker 2: day pretty hard. Angus Young for Racy DC, just turned
Speaker 2: seventy three days ago. We're all getting old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and Angus looks pretty old, just saying you know,
Speaker 1: he you know, he's not one of those guys. It's
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh wow, he looks pretty good per set. No, No,
Speaker 1: Angus looks like, yeah, you're seventy.
Speaker 2: As they used to say, road hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and the other thing is are they still
Speaker 1: putting him in that schoolboy uniform like per performances? Because
Speaker 1: if they are, and that's pretty humiliating. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guarantee at the age of seventy He's like on stage
Speaker 1: going Jesus. You know, I thought this was a good
Speaker 1: gimmick forty years ago, but come on, you know, anyway,
Speaker 1: we have Danny on the line, So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to Danny see what's on his mind real quick before
Speaker 1: we run out of time. And Danny, you're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here. What do you mean a top cup?
Speaker 6: Dam to listen to the show Chasing the Kids at
Speaker 6: the soccer soccer part, and you talked about the weekend
Speaker 6: Update and Norm McDonald's was so classic at that weekend
Speaker 6: update and I remember.
Speaker 2: Watching him and he really went hard.
Speaker 6: On the whole OJ. Do you know kind of the
Speaker 6: backstory of why he went so hard on OJ?
Speaker 1: You know, I used to know part of it, but
Speaker 1: it was definitely a hard, sticking point. And I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that made him really unpopular because
Speaker 1: OJ at one point was doing football announcing for NBC,
Speaker 1: wasn't he.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was friends. He was friends with a lot
Speaker 6: of the u the upper restelant of NBC, and they
Speaker 6: told him to knock it off. And I just found
Speaker 6: out later why he went so hard is because he'd
Speaker 6: defied him. He just went harder on the he he
Speaker 6: challenged him, Well, I mean it was it was just
Speaker 6: in the When I finally heard the story, I paid
Speaker 6: either more attention. Why he doubled down. It was like,
Speaker 6: they don't knock it off.
Speaker 2: And you know he's a.
Speaker 6: Typical fashion of a good comedian, you know, in contrary,
Speaker 6: he was going for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, stand up comedians used to be
Speaker 1: like all about you don't want me to say the
Speaker 1: F word, Well, that means I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: ten times more often. You don't want me to talk
Speaker 1: about you know, you don't want me to talk about race,
Speaker 1: Well that means my whole act is going to be race. Now.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why I love Dave Chappelle when he does stuff
Speaker 1: like that, where it's like, you told me not to
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff, You're going to cancel me, will
Speaker 1: cancel me? Here you go.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that about comedians. They push things, you know.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, I remember it was it was He kind
Speaker 6: of reminded me too, is.
Speaker 2: Oh, who was it was?
Speaker 1: When did they let.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: It was, oh, when they let Jill off of the
Speaker 6: Monday Night Football Jimmy Kimmel. They brought him in on
Speaker 6: the bus and he started asking, whe's jo it just
Speaker 6: fired him last week? I mean, it's just this uncomfortable quiet. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he knew they were uncomfortable. He just he just doubled down,
Speaker 6: keeps going, where's Jill?
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, they wouldn't have fired Jimmy the
Speaker 1: Greek today.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 1: Remember Jimmy the Greek? Yeah, yeah, I mean you know
Speaker 1: I like it. Look, I'm not in love with Woope Goldberg,
Speaker 1: that's for sure, But her explanation about Jimmy the Greek
Speaker 1: I thought was correct. Where it was like Jimmy didn't
Speaker 1: say anything that was a lie. He didn't like make
Speaker 1: things up and like say black people have an extra
Speaker 1: bone in their foot or something. He said, Look, there's
Speaker 1: a reason why you know these guys are athletically superior
Speaker 1: at this moment. Could be because their descendants of slaves
Speaker 1: who were bred together with you know, the biggest and
Speaker 1: the strongest. That's who survived. And guess what now you
Speaker 1: got the NFL and people freaked out on Jimmy the Greek.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, It's it's kind of funny, like would
Speaker 1: he get canceled today or would you know a bunch
Speaker 1: of Trump supporters just like fall in love with him
Speaker 1: and he'd become the anti hero of like alternative sports.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how Jimmy the Greek
Speaker 1: would land today. What do you think?
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of cyclical. It's kind of builds
Speaker 6: in waves. I mean, it depends on swings. It just
Speaker 6: depends how you hit that penzilum. You know it's going
Speaker 6: to be the outcome of whatever you say. But hey,
Speaker 6: another thing about time, Why it was that was my
Speaker 6: our one I was dating my wife, were in high
Speaker 6: school and she had a curfew, but we can always
Speaker 6: hit home and we'd hang out longer by watching Saturday
Speaker 6: It Live.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 6: So some great shows, some great great times watched and
Speaker 6: growing up, I grew up with it. I was the
Speaker 6: I think I was a pre teen when that show
Speaker 6: came out, you know, so it's been with me for
Speaker 6: a long time.
Speaker 1: Right, See, my preteen time with that show is more
Speaker 1: like when Eddie Murphy was on, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that was like what eighty two something like that, like
Speaker 1: eighty two, eighty three, eighty four somewhere and there, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great.
Speaker 2: Murphy was he was young. He was so talented, just
Speaker 2: just you know, just so clever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, on Second Live, I'm Gumby, dammit, Jewish Gumby
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean that was hilarious. And James Brown
Speaker 1: in the hot tub, I mean, you know, classic stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean I'd be repeating it all the time. My
Speaker 6: wife would have to tell me the Scott, you know,
Speaker 6: because it was just it couldn't help it.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 1: You know what's hilarious too, is I remember going on it,
Speaker 1: going on dates with a couple of girls and actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: making the excuse to be at their house to watch
Speaker 1: TV a little longer on that Saturday night when I
Speaker 1: brought them home from a curfew too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh and that was great, wife, Yeah, you get. I
Speaker 6: was always got home for the curfew and then we'd
Speaker 6: stay and watched that Live. A lot of times I'd
Speaker 6: fall asleep and be really late before I get home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was either that or there was this
Speaker 1: one girl I was with, and her grandmother lived in
Speaker 1: the downstairs and her and her father lived in the
Speaker 1: upstairs of the house. So if I walked in and
Speaker 1: was nice and seemed interested in whatever movie grandma was watching,
Speaker 1: I could hang out there till at least the end
Speaker 1: of that movie and uh, you know still be around
Speaker 1: that girl, and uh yeah I was. I was a
Speaker 1: happy camper with that. So and sometimes on a Saturday night,
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live would be on around that curfew time,
Speaker 1: so perfect it worked out. Anyway, guys, look, we're about
Speaker 1: at a time and I'm just gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: put you on hold, Danny. But obviously there'd be more
Speaker 1: opportunities to call in on the Uncle Show and all that,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you for calling in for sure. Glad
Speaker 1: you're at the soccer thing again on a Friday night,
Speaker 1: But be Pete. I'm gonna give you the final word
Speaker 1: for the week, and uh we're gonna move on to
Speaker 1: the age of transitions here coming up live on Ocelly
Speaker 1: dot com Radio next.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, finish it out that we could
Speaker 2: do it another week, and looking forward to doing this
Speaker 2: again next week. And everybody go to Chelly dot com
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Speaker 1: Out absolutely and look at some time between now and
Speaker 1: May fifth, Okay, in the next month, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to come up with new ways of doing things. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna figure out a way to keep the call
Speaker 1: in show going, even if we have to change the
Speaker 1: number every week or something like that. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if that's what's gonna happen. And planning for Lancer is
Speaker 1: gonna come up soon. I'm gonna talk to you guys
Speaker 1: about that during the process, and a few other things
Speaker 1: are gonna happen. I'm actually hoping for some new radio
Speaker 1: shows slash podcasts to join the network in the next
Speaker 1: couple of months, but those things are up in the
Speaker 1: air and we'll do the best we can. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it if people donating all that, And like
Speaker 1: I said, stay tuned for the Age of Ten coming
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Speaker 3: This is what we do and
Speaker 2: So I'm all bumings up with Coffin