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Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford, my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at. Cindy Crawford links to

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all of our social media in the episode description. Please

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make sure you support the creators that come on this show,

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otherwise they don't come on this show anymore. Cindy, it's

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such a pleasure to have you on tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. How are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 1: I am not bad. We will get into why I

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am so excited to have you on in the second

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segment when I really want to tackle this project that

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you're getting into. But you are one of my all

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time performers. I'm thirty eight years old, so you know

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some of the first porn DVDs I ever bought at

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six eighteen? Uh were you were a baby?

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Speaker 2: A baby?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. But at the same time,

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I you know, I grew up, you know, with a

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whole cast and crew that you were involved in. And

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I want to bring up some more of them later

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on too, because I have a couple of little games

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to play that hopefully, hopefully we can get some traction

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moving on something. So let me start with my first

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question here, Cindy, this is kind of a weird one.

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But with all that you do, what do you consider

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your job title to be?

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Speaker 2: Number One? I am the creator of pleasure. That's what

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I was born to do. That's I believe my that's

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my purpose in life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so talk me through it and maybe

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this will give us reason. You know why you found

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out or how you found out, were a giver, a

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creator of pleasure. Can you talk me through how you

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initially decided to get into the adult entertainment industry? What

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were your steps? Did you have friends that pulled in.

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Did you need money so you decided to do it.

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Were you just always sexy so you were like, fuck it,

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let's get paid.

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Speaker 2: No, actually I was. I was working three jobs. I

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was top five percent of the state of Nevada. I

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was in the National Honor Society. I was flown to Washington,

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d C. I'm at the President Clinton. They take me

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to the basement. I was the only one that knows

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that there's a fucking seventeen story building underneath the fucking

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White House. Uh. I was, you know, I was all

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on top of it. And then I went into college

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for forensic science, and then my mom was like I

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felt her dying. So I and then in the middle

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of like forensic science where we were like dissecting bodies

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and my mom had just died, I'm like, I'm out.

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I'm like, book this nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough. That's rough timing, especially.

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Speaker 2: Since I was only six credits away from graduating. And

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so I'm like, I'm like, huh, what else could I do?

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What else could I do?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't never allowed to cut my hair as

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a child, so it was like lady could dive it long,

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and so when she died, I fucking chopped it off.

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It was like, well now it's like long again. But yeah,

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that's the story. And so after she died, I was like,

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I just want to go to the beach. You know.

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I took a bible. I packed a Bible and a map,

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and I was racing a corvette on the freeway and

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son Sylvia tried to get in the mix, you know,

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and because my windows were too so tinted, they couldn't

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tell if I was a man or a woman. I

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smoked that fucking corvette because Sylvia fucking smokes me. And

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so like when we finally got into traffic, I'm I

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rolled down my window about this much. I'm like, Ouck's dude,

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it's a hot dude. And he rolled down his windows.

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Oh it's a chick. It's hot. I take I'm like,

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pull the fuck over, just pull over. So we pulled

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over at State line and I got out and we hugged,

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and I ended up saying, if you get me into

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the porn industry, I'll fuck your brain's out. So the

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next day he took me to Sin City. He happened

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to be the editor for Sincity and been married to

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him for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Okay, that did not turn. That didn't go

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the way I thought it was gonna go. That was

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great though. Wait, so did he indicate to you that

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this sounds like no offense if the movie the movie

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stinks apparently? No, no, no, no, this sounds like the movie

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stripped teas almost a little bit where you're like, oh, girl,

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trying to find my way and they're like, no, not strip,

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what is it? No? No, no, no, no, I get it.

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I get it. Is that the one not strip tease?

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What's the other one? Oh with the girl from Saved

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by the Bell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is stripped Jesse from Save.

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Speaker 1: By the Bell. No, no, it's not No, it's not

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strip tease. Is Demi Moore? That show Girls is what

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I'm talking about? You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's

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such a great So, now did you indicate to him

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at all that you were interested in porn or that

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he was involved in porn or did you just throw

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it out there, like if you can get me into porn?

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And then he's thinking, I gotta fuck this girl. How

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do I get her into porn?

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Speaker 2: Well, so, I don't want to be like tragic or anything,

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but after my mom died, I went into stripping, so

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it was a stripper for a little while. And so

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I kind of had this girl, you know where we

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were the Zebra Twins and we were the only ones

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allowed in the state of nevad to wear a cowboy hat.

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It was a fucking I don't know. They're like they're

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the Zebra Twins, that's it. And she was like, we

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have this like five bedroom house that I can't pay

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for because her husband, his best friend, had died in

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some tragic tractor accident, so he was in like a

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deep depression and all he would do is just play

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video games and stuff like that. And I'm like you

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have to, you have to confront him, tell him to

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get off his ass and fucking pay for some shit.

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And so, you know, we partied together or whatever, and

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so he's like, I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna kill myself.

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And this went on for like three years, like he

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was just bringing her down, bringing I So one day

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I'm like, if you're gonna kill yourself, just just fucking

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do it. And then I heard a gunshot and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey yeah, and so I meanwhile,

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me and her were fucking strip male strippers on the

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side from upstairs from Olympic Garden.

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Speaker 2: And so we rushed over there and it's like great, great,

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And so that's that's what happened. And so when the

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male stripper that she was dating said that he was

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in love with me and said I was no longer

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allowed at the house, I don't know if he thought

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I was gonna like talk him at a suicide or something,

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but I'm like, I'm out of here. Like I got

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on the road. I packed a Bible and a fucking map,

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and I'm like, I'm going to California. And that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you seemed like such a natural right off

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the bat. If you watch some of your early scenes

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and I want to know, though, what was the first

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speed bump you hit where someone made an offer to you,

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or it was a specific type of scene or a

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niche scene and you were kind of like shaky on it?

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really like, like, this is a career. It's not fun.

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I know this is gonna be hard work, so I'm

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gonna do the hard work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you something. Every single step for

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the first probably six seven years was a fucking like

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a speed bump. Like when I first got in, I

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was too thin. They said, oh, you look like a crackhead.

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It looks like your own speed, looks like all this bullshtit.

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So I was signed with Simon Wolf and then and

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then my friends and my family hit Everyone was like

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two thousand dollars a month is you can't do that?

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So I did a few films with him and had

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to cancel that. And then I was offered Playboy TV.

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And the thing about that is on Playboard TV is

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they have to have the rights to show the videos

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when I'm offering it up. But nobody would nobody would

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give the rights. So I'm like, check this video out

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of somebody else, and there was no videos of me,

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so next to that, and then so I was like,

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I want to go hardcore. So I went to Hustler.

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There was only three women that were offered this opportunity

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for a new contract star for for Hustler, and I

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went in and I swear like this entire apartment complex

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was his his, fucking this fucking like this is your office,

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Like this is crazy, So I can't. I came in,

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I sat down and he was you know, he's like, yeah,

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I really like your look. He's like, come around and

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take your clothes off. I'm like, no fucking problem. And

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he was like filling me up. And if anybody had

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told me at the time that I was supposed to

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suck his dick, I would have so, but I was uncomfortable.

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I was like, what do I do. Do I suck

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his dick and be unprofessional or do I let him

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fill me up and say, oh, yeah, you're right for

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the job. I did not get on my knees at

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the wheelchair at that time, and nobody got the nobody

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got the contract that nobody got that can I.

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Speaker 1: Ask you, do you remember the other two girls?

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Speaker 2: Or no, I do not, I do not, Okay, it

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was it was just a sign in sheet.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? Okay. So okay, So you had like

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almost that, and I don't know, maybe you've had it

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many times. Maybe you don't want to talk. It's almost

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like they talk about that casting couch kind of experience

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in real life A little bit, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But but I was so new, I didn't know.

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I didn't know, like if somebody, like if my agent

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had been like, okay, going, you got this, drop to

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your knees, suck as fucking wiener, do whatever you gotta do,

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massage's fucking feet, you know I would have done that.

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But nobody fucking told me that. So I walked in

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thinking I don't want to be just another slut coming

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in taking a clothes of its sadden as dick, you know.

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Speaker 1: So sure, sure, okay.

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Speaker 2: Had they told me that, they should have told me that,

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I would have done that, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a couple more questions. Then we're

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going to dive into that company that we're talking about

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and what exactly we're doing. But you notably use your

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real name on stage, I believe is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Funny story behind that also is the supermodel Cindy Crawford.

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That's not her real name. Her real name is Cynthia Crawford,

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Cynthia Ann Crawford. And when I was first starting out,

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they made a real doll of me, and I had

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a toy line from Topco which we had seventeen new

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you know, adult stuff that I designed that I named

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and I was the first part start ever to be

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sent to China to promote this. Now when I when

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I showed up in China, there was a two story

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billboard of me, and when I stood up to the

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to the to the show, there were five five Asian

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women with a dozen roses each just to thank me

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for coming. And I was like, this is fucking amazing.

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So I get on the podium, I start to sign

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my autographs. I signed about seven and then they start

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to write Chinaman, just a sea of Chinaman, just grabbing

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and pushing it, and they knocked over the podium and

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so I was rushed out to the to the back

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of the building into a limo. And that was my experience.

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I got to sign seven fucking autographs and then yeah,

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and then Sydney Crawford, the model stided me the toy

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line and they didn't have money to fight it. And

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so from then till now, I think she owes me

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some fucking money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so too. That's your birth name.

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She's just co opting and it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: Just didn't have enough money to fight it, but we do.

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Speaker 1: Now there you go, there you go at all. Let

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me ask you, though, do you think do you think

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as everything went more digital, do you think that actually

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hurt you more than it helped you? Or did it help?

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Because once Google starts putting in like safe search and

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this and that, this Cindy Crawford, the Cindy Crawford I

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grew up loving you is not going to be populated

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at the top of that now, right.

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Speaker 2: The only thing about social media, like the social media platforms. Okay,

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people need to understand this, Okay. So when you go

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to let's say I'm an eighteen year old male, okay,

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and I'm looking at porn for the very first time,

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top ten percent of porn hub is hired by let's say,

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skank bank brawsers. And the only reason why they hire

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those those women is because of their social media following.

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They have to have a high social media following so

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that they can sell the movies for them. So top

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ten percent of brasers. Porn Hub is top ten of

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like social media following. Now you can buy social media following,

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you can pay I e. People And most of the

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time it's not even the real chick that's like, you know,

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responding to you. But if she has a high social

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media following, the producers want to hire them because they're

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fucking lazy and they want the chicks to sell the

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movies for them. Now they're cutting out everybody else, including me.

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Brassers won't hire me as a former I get the

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the b rules like my grandma or our mills, you know, oh,

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don't fuck my daughter type of bullshit. You know, it's

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like that's fucking nonsense. And so Sam, an eighteen year

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old male just coming into porn, I'm being brainwashed into

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thinking that these women are the top and that's what

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I should love because you know that they're trending and

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that's everybody else loves. But nine times out of ten,

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when you get on set with these women, they're all

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about the money. They're all about the rules, like don't

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kiss me in the face of let me know, but

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don't touch my hair. You know, it's like, what are

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you an internet prostitute? Like, get the fuck out of here.

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I don't want to know about the Mercedes payment.

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Speaker 3: Full the star as.

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Speaker 2: Fucked because we like to fuck. I mean, like the

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attention and these bitches come in like I'm just gonna

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take a picture of my butt at the Taco Bell

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drive through. This is my butt at the beach, and

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this is my butt and a song, and this is

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my button a different color song. It's like, it's fucking afraid,

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get on with that nonsense.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, though, has the shift to

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everything being like fully digital. Has that helped or hurt

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performers in a sense, if you can get your only

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fans up and you know, build your own content, there's

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performers that don't have to tie into the studio system, right.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, those are the girls that are not doing

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hardcore scenes. Those are the girls that are you know,

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those are the girls who are building relationships with let's

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say they're subscribers, so it's more like a girlfriend experience

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where they upload something every day. This is me, this

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is needed. So these men come into this delusion to

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where it's almost like I'm connected to her. We're kind

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of like girlfriend and boyfriend. I'm I need this every

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single day, whereas you know, if you want to fuck

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you know. So the girls that are making and they

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say one hundred thousand dollars, that's fucking bullshit. I looked

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it up, and I have like five lawyers on my

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team now, and they fucking looked it up. And anyone

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that says that they're making millions of dollars not only fasts,

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they're full of fucking garbage. They're lying to you. Show

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me a statement, show me your big statements, show me

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every time that you've downloaded. I want to pay out, payout,

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pay and they can't produce that because they're fucking not set.

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There's nobody making millions of dollars on only fans, especially

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if you're not showing your ass.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to do a thing called stat check

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that I do on this show, and basically we go

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through the Adult Entertainment or the Internet adult film database,

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and that covers any of your mainstream scenes that you've shot,

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all of that, Okay, the performers you've worked with. Okay,

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So for you total.

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Speaker 2: What side? Are you going to use.

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Speaker 1: The Internet Adult Film Database IAFD.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, do that one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, amount of scenes you've shot five hundred

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and sixty two, that is impressive. Okay, the amount of

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guys you've worked with one hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 2: However, however, if you go to Adult Film Database, it's

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like six hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: So okay, all right, well okay, well I'll need to

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recalculate in the field. Let me just base it on

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these numbers, because of already pulled them in. I want

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to make sure you know. Oh man, I didn't know

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there were two of those, by the way, I thought

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there was just the one. So that's impressive. Scenes five

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sixty two guys you've worked with one sixty two girls

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you've worked with one fifty six. I have, and I

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just do AVN because it's the easiest way to track.

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I have six nominations and one win. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Are you're talking about yourself? You have six nominations in

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one win?

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Speaker 1: No, I was talking about you. I thought that was accurate.

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Is that inaccurate?

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Speaker 2: Inaccurate?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What's inaccurate about that? Dina?

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Speaker 2: I have six nominations and two wins.

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Speaker 1: Two wins. My apologies. I will fix that. Two wins,

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that's the.

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Speaker 2: And I just this has not been validated yet, but

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I just learned that I was. I won some XRCU award. Okay,

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I don't know, like five years ago, but nobody told

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me about.

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Speaker 1: That's impressive you're winning. When yeah, you're winning, Why not

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even paying attention?

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Speaker 2: No, nobody notified me. It wasn't like like I'm just

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living my life, doing my thing, and then I was

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just looking up shit on the internet. I'm like, huh,

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that's interesting, I won an award that nobody told me about.

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There you goucking bizarre, right.

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Speaker 1: That's because you're a legend. You just keep going legend.

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I always say legend for performers that were around when

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I was younger, but it's it almost is insulting. I

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feel like I don't want to put an age that

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you still want.

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Speaker 2: Great people do call me legend. Even when I'm on

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set just doing the b roll for like brassers and stuff.

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There was this new performer and I was supposed to

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be the milf uh and I'm supposed to walk in

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on and you know, fucking in the night, I said,

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let's do this instead of me like freaking out, Let's

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do a fake thing. And so I throw myself on

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the floor and I'm like, oh oh, somebody roses into

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a wet cloth, and I mean it was amazing, And

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so I get up so that they can do their

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actual sex scene. And I'm walking down the stairs as

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somebody goes Sidney Crawford, You're the goat. And at this

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time I didn't know what goat meant. So I went last,

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and I didn't find out until like two days later

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that the greatest of all time. I'm like, how stupid?

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How stupid do I sound? Right then? Like, I don't know,

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but at least like the newbies, you know, they recognize

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who I am.

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Speaker 1: Sure, it's just.

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Speaker 2: It's just trying to get everybody else in line.

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Speaker 1: You know. If this is too personal, don't bring it up.

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I've only seen you mention it in another interview, so

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I'm okay asking it. But if again, if you don't

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want to talk about that's fine. You were out of

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me in the street for twelve years, right eight thirteen

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years thirteen? And what led to you stepping away? When

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was the actual decision to not when, but what caused

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the actual decision, Like I need to stop doing this

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for a.

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Speaker 2: Bit, okay. So so when my entire family died, you know,

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in succession, and I went into porn. And I was

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doing okay for a while. But when you come to

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a fact that, you know, when it sets in that

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everybody's gone and everybody's dead, you kind of go into

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this self destructive mode. And so I started. That's when

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I got the tattoos, I started the brandings, I started slashing,

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I started doing heavy, heavy drinking on set, and just

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I was a fucking mess, you know. And so when

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I when I decided to step away my very last year,

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I was actually pregnant two thousand and eight, and that's

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the year that I won two awards, and I couldn't

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accept the awards because my ride, Jim Lane, that was

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my only ride home because I was like, I was

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so destituted. I was like and so like, I've got

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to get out of this shit, you know. So I

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stepped out and I did like high price escorting, but

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that was even worse because it was almost too degragating.

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So at that point I stopped, I stopped bathing, I

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stopped brushing my hair. I stopped doing my makeup. I

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just let my hair grow, you know, black, and it

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got so redded up that it was like an enormous dreadlock,

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like I couldn't There was no brushing it out, there

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was nothing. So I remember just sitting in the bathroom

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and it was just so heavy and so pulling on me,

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and my husband just came up with the with the

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like cutters. He's like Gan and like all my fucking

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like half of my head just fell off, and I'm like, okay,

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we we have to do something about this. This is

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not working. So from then then point on, I started

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working out and I'm like, you know what, I have

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more to give. I have more to give. I'm fucking hot.

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And so it took me three years propositioning every fucking

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company with updated pictures, updated with it, for Jim Lane

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to finally give me a fucking shot and my first

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scene back with a seven black eyed game. Bang. So

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I went with one oh one fucking nonsense, don't even

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get me started with that. I have a lawsuit against

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uh one on one because friand defamation of character needs

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to be docked. So I went from one on one

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and then I went from another one and then I

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went with te Reals Agency was his ideal image models,

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and so then he's like, I know you are not

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what people perceive you to be before, and I'm like,

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thank you. So then he gave me a shot and

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then I came back and now here we are.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So when you did that seven guy gangbang,

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was that a lot to jump into? Like how did

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you feel the next day? Were you exhilarated? Where you

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fucking wiped? Like? What was that? Like?

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Speaker 2: Okay, after thirteen years, I'm not having huge black dix

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in your butt. The nervous system beforehand was like I

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don't know if I can do this, Like your what

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your sweat your ass off? You're like you're like, but

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I was like, you got this, you got this. We

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practiced at home. We practiced at home. But it's like

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once you get back into it, like the first scene

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back you're like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing.

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What the fuck am I doing? But then the next

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one you're like, oh, I know.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck I'm doing. Almost like riding a bike

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with one pedal, it's like and then you get the

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next pedal and you're like oh, I remember this.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what I do.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what you are currently doing. So

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you're back full time now with a mission, and that

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is resurrecting an iconic brand, Anarchy Films. Now, the first

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porn DVD I ever bought was an Anarchy Films DVD. Okay,

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it was hor Gaggers too. And you know what's so funny.

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I look back at all my favorite performers and so

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many of them were on that DVD. So I think

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it's like almost a first impression what you get and

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you go, oh, I'm locked into this person for life.

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Now I love this person, I love this performance.

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Speaker 2: I can almost Yeah, this is my first.

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Speaker 1: Dy So let me ask you, what was Anarchy's calling card?

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Why is this so important for you to bring it back? Like?

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Was it? I should ask you because I don't know

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the behind the scenes. Is this a label that you

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owned at the time, or you participate? I know you

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did a lot of shoots for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like playing with Sydney Crawford. That whole line

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is huge. Okay. So Anarchy Films was just like a

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production company back in the day, and they have like

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the four hundred and fifty six titles now the owner

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of Anarchy Guy. I'm not gonna say his last name

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because he won't even let me take a picture of

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him because I fucked him earlier and he's in a

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different industry now and it won't mix. But Guy and

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his dad and the wife, they owned Anarchy, Python and

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Fifth Element Films. Now, out of the blue, he contacts

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me and he says, I want to get out of

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the porn industry and there's nobody in this industry that

472
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I feel would be better to give my entire company too.

473
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,359
And I'm like, are you freaking serious? So we met

474
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,960
and there was a huge I mean, it took us

475
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:57,000
five days to empty this storage unit with like three

476
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:01,319
guys working non stop just to get all of the content,

477
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:06,640
all of the cams, the DVDs, the you know, everything

478
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,559
out And so I'm like, why are you doing this?

479
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,039
Why are you getting this to me? He's like, because

480
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:15,920
I know you are the one that's going to take

481
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,400
this somewhere. I'm like, well, thanks for the vote of confidence.

482
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,559
Can I get a signature all that ship? So signed

483
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:30,039
the paperwork right on his Mercedes and that was done.

484
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,359
Speaker 1: Wow, all right?

485
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: And yes, and yes I did have sex with him

486
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,480
earlier today, but that was just because I like him.

487
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:42,640
I'm hoping for the indeed to be inducted into the

488
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,440
Hall of Fame.

489
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,759
Speaker 1: So have you Have you been told there's a chance

490
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,279
of that yet? Are you up for it?

491
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's not. It's not a thing that you're

492
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680
up for. You know. It's not like a nomination. It's

493
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,960
not like but I think I'm going to get it

494
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,599
this year. I think I'm gonna be inducted into Amian

495
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,240
Hall of Fame. Everybody crossed your fingers.

496
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Well if you feel if you don't get in and

497
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,799
you feel bad, just remember this that Tupac got into No,

498
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,759
don't do that. Tupac got into the Rock and Roll

499
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,400
Hall of Fame before Ozzy did.

500
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, who the fuck is running that shit?

501
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. So look if for some reason.

502
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,039
Speaker 2: Pepper Yes got in like two years ago, like.

503
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: What it's it's yeah, it's crazy. So look, if you

504
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,720
don't get in this year, you will eventually get in

505
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:41,799
because you are that legendary performer. So take me through

506
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,599
what are we gonna do with this newfound company? And

507
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,559
let me ask you, is it just the Anarchy brand

508
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,119
or is it the two other brands as well that

509
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,519
he owned.

510
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,839
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Anarchy, Anarchy Pictures, Python Pictures, and Fifth Element Films.

511
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:03,240
It's like there's three brands. However, just going to hone

512
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,920
in on Anarchy as for now because they have the

513
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:14,079
most titles. Fifth Element Films is more of like like

514
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:18,039
the Blacks, the Asians, the you know, the that type

515
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:22,720
of stuff. Python Pictures didn't do a lot of titles,

516
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,519
but I was thinking about changing the name to Python

517
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:33,279
Histures like PI s Stures and making it full gay

518
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:40,240
gay like kink stuff like gay kink like pissing and

519
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
and all that kind of stuff, and I and I

520
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,039
brought it up. I brought it up the guy today

521
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,319
and he's like, why the fuck didn't we think of that?

522
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:54,440
But my silent partner as for now says, we need

523
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,839
to tackle one thing at a time.

524
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. That makes sense. That does

525
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,799
make sense. I think Archy's the strongest name out of

526
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,559
them too, Like it makes me recognize, hey, this is

527
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,720
a this is a thing that's going to be exciting. Right.

528
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, if you go on any search, any you know

529
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,960
platform that you buy adult movies on, type in Anarchy Films,

530
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,720
and there's tons of that tons and I own every

531
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,240
single one of them.

532
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,279
Speaker 1: So that's really cool, and that's really nice. And again,

533
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,680
you went through your troubles and and the stuff you

534
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240
had to deal with, but you seems like you're coming

535
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,680
out the other side, Like you've already come out the

536
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,519
other side. But now we're growing from there. You know,

537
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,440
you were buried for a while. You're crawling. You crawled out.

538
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Now it's time to start scaling that mountain, you know.

539
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680
And absolutely, yeah, yeah.

540
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I own the world at one point, we're going to

541
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,000
own everything.

542
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. If some guy calls you a

543
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,440
news office to try and give you the world, what

544
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:03,480
you gotta do? What do we what did we learn

545
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,519
we have to do now? If someone is in an

546
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,119
office and they're trying to give you something, make sure

547
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:12,920
it's worth it. Oh I was gonna say, suck is dick?

548
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,199
Speaker 2: Uh make sure it's worth sucking it?

549
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: Then that's fair enough. Yeah, you should you should verify

550
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,400
first that. Uh yeah yeah. So okay, so what is

551
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,119
the plan. Are we going to just start doing things

552
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,440
under that title? Are you getting a domain name and

553
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,280
are you going to build like a pay site with it?

554
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:35,079
Are we just going to take the full collection of everything,

555
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,400
and uh put it online so people can access all

556
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,519
of that, like what maybe early days, but what is

557
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,280
the plan for it?

558
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so there are tons and tons of content unreleased,

559
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,599
you know, behind the scenes, photos, scenes, all kinds of

560
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,119
stuff that has not been released yet. Titless like these,

561
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:04,559
we're going to continue like the like Nutbusters series or

562
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:08,360
Pop that Cherry. We're going to incorporate the new girls

563
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,920
and we're going to continue those lines. Now. My idea

564
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400
is I want to do like It now and then

565
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:19,320
type of thing where because the newbies, like the millennials,

566
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,159
they don't fucking know what porn is. What I want

567
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,840
to do is I want to splice something really really

568
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,039
fucking old, like Nina Hartley, and I want to put

569
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,039
Nina Harley in a scene and then splice it with

570
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,000
a brand new scene and then an old scene and

571
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,119
a new scene, old scene, new sing so that they're

572
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,320
you know, comparative to what you know porn should be.

573
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239
Now that's one line, and then of course we're going

574
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:52,679
to continue with like like Chocolate Lovers and let's see

575
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:59,440
young young, young hip humpsters. I want to I might

576
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:04,480
change a few of the titles there but but sweets

577
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:11,280
brown Sugar. You know, we have I'm represented by ideal

578
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,920
image models right now, and uh, September wants to be

579
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,679
one of our you know, first shot scenes. And she's

580
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:27,719
actually posting a toy drive here in Las Vegas, and

581
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,119
you know, and like a Naho, you know, these new

582
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:36,119
girls we want to we want to incorporate everybody. You know,

583
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,800
I'm not trying to be one of those companies like

584
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,480
porn Hub. You know. I don't want the top ten

585
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,880
percent just because they're fucking hot. I want everybody that

586
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,760
loves a fuck, you know. I want everybody old, young,

587
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,880
you know, new, you know whatever, fat, you know, because

588
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:02,880
porn is not about just fucking on camera. It's about

589
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:09,840
loving the experience of having an intimate sexual relationship, with

590
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,400
loving yourself and loving your partner. And if that helps

591
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,559
somebody who's watching it come out of their stell and

592
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:17,880
do the.

593
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:25,599
Speaker 1: Same, I think that. I think that's great.

594
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: Our new model is is we fuck everyone, including the system.

595
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,639
Speaker 1: Oh and that's great for anarchy. I think that's great.

596
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,480
I really do. I think that's a great tagline. That's

597
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:48,280
so funny. Oh I well, Cindy, we gotta wrap this

598
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,079
one up. I'm out of time. But you, like I

599
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:56,280
said before, legend, I think you're gonna do great with this.

600
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:58,679
I really do. I think you have the drive for it.

601
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,599
I think you had to have the for it when

602
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,159
you got into this industry. You succeeded. You went all

603
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:04,840
the way to the top. You've got an awards that

604
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,280
you don't even know you got, apparently, And I don't know.

605
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,960
When I see performers like you from my I don't

606
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,199
want to say childhood, but my college time, okay, over eighteen,

607
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,280
I think, you know, damn, there should be more opportunities

608
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,719
for them to grow in this industry, to age in

609
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,679
this industry. I got. If they tell you to play

610
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:31,519
a mom, you don't look like an old lady mom,

611
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,679
but take it because I want to see you in

612
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880
more scenes. I need to see more content of you.

613
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,280
You're one of my favorite performers of all time. Let

614
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,400
me ask this last question, what do you think the

615
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:44,239
end game is? Are you going to be doing this

616
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,519
till you're seventy five shooting guilf porn or do you

617
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,039
have a number you'd be set at and you want

618
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,760
to step away? Do you have an age that you think,

619
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,039
oh if I get here, and I'd like to just

620
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,239
be entirely behind the camera at this point. What's like

621
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:03,840
the future for Cindy Crawford in terms of staying in

622
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,599
the industry.

623
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Okay, for me, this is my life. This is what

624
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,920
I was born to do. There is no set out game.

625
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:19,159
When I am dead is when I am out. If

626
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,800
I'm no longer accepted in the industry, I will find

627
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,599
another way in period. I'm not quitting. I'm not stopping.

628
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,960
And even if I were to get an accident, a

629
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:38,159
car accident tomorrow, I would find another way. Paraplegic porn. Fine,

630
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:41,920
this is my drive, this is my life, this is

631
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,760
my living, This is what I was set to do.

632
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,440
This is my purpose in life.

633
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Shallow, No, not at all, Not at all. I respect it.

634
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:53,760
You know what you want to do and you're reaching

635
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,880
out to do it, folks if you want to check it.

636
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,639
Speaker 2: Not stopping till und No, not at all.

637
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:02,519
Speaker 1: Do we have an kind of what should we do

638
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,880
to watch for these updates on Anarchy? Are you gonna

639
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,599
be posting them on Twitter? Are you gonna post them

640
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:11,199
on your only fans? Like the fans want to know

641
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,000
you got to give them a little something on like,

642
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,719
when this stuff's kicking off, are you gonna tease them

643
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,840
a little? If anyone knows how to tease, it would

644
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,760
be Cindy Crawford.

645
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. So ABN dot com is the best

646
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:30,719
for the news as to when we shoot our first scene,

647
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,440
that's gonna be headline news. Other than that, like the

648
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,679
the stuff that we're shooting now, which is the first

649
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,880
week of January right before ABN, we're kind of keeping

650
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,280
it hush hush because we want it to be like

651
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,000
a like a blast. We don't want to be like, Okay,

652
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:57,079
something's coming up and maybe starring these people, it's going

653
00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:02,880
to be a complete blast. So right before Avian Avian

654
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,719
is the adan show, I should say, is Tory one

655
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,679
through the twenty fourth. So right then we're gonna shoot

656
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,159
the very first movie I should say, five scenes, okay,

657
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:23,800
all mixed mixed up, meaning blacks, whites, Asians. I've even

658
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,920
got a gay guy that that's gonna do a woman

659
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,079
and a man at the same time, So okay.

660
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, folks, I will also retweet anything

661
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,679
I come across about this. I'll put it out there

662
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,320
because again I wasn't bullshitting like I know my first title,

663
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,800
like I said, by name, I know the all of

664
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,039
the performers that were on it, and it was an

665
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,880
anarchy film. So I'm excited. And then on top of that,

666
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,239
I'm excited for a performer that I respect, like you,

667
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,639
to be taking on the reins of that, and I

668
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,079
think it's a great challenge. And you know what, it

669
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,480
won't on knock on would But if it doesn't work out,

670
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,360
I know Cindy Crawford is just gonna pivot to find

671
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,400
something new. You can't keep her out of this, folks.

672
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,079
You can't keep her out of this. Remember, if you

673
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:14,000
want to check her out, it's at Cindy Crawford, exactly

674
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,960
where you think it is. Okay. Links to that are

675
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,079
going to be in the episode description include all the

676
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,639
links for everything she's doing. And that initial article about

677
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:27,840
you launch relaunching anarchy film, I thought it was great.

678
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:30,280
I thought it was really really good. I was so excited.

679
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,599
It was honestly like I went back in a fucking

680
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:34,679
time machine. If I'm being honest with you, it was

681
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,599
like Cindy Crawford anchy. I'm used to getting flooded with

682
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,320
the ten biggest social media girls, right and so I

683
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,079
see that and I go, oh my god, this is like,

684
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,039
this is like two thousand and seven, two thousand and

685
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,800
nine all over again. I love this shit. So I'm

686
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,159
very I'm very excited to see where you go from here.

687
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,239
And again, even if you decide no, this isn't the path,

688
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,719
but we're going to do this. I think you're going

689
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,800
to do just fine. I think you're going to do

690
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,320
just fine.

691
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: And it's very hard to get on the front page

692
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,440
of Baby And by.

693
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,519
Speaker 1: The way, again a big deal shout out to.

694
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,639
Speaker 2: Beth, Thank you, thank you very much, Dan Miller

695
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen this year, come on,