Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
where you can find her at. Cindy Crawford links to
all of our social media in the episode description. Please
make sure you support the creators that come on this show,
otherwise they don't come on this show anymore. Cindy, it's
such a pleasure to have you on tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: I am not bad. We will get into why I
am so excited to have you on in the second
segment when I really want to tackle this project that
you're getting into. But you are one of my all
time performers. I'm thirty eight years old, so you know
some of the first porn DVDs I ever bought at
six eighteen? Uh were you were a baby?
Speaker 2: A baby?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. But at the same time,
I you know, I grew up, you know, with a
whole cast and crew that you were involved in. And
I want to bring up some more of them later
on too, because I have a couple of little games
to play that hopefully, hopefully we can get some traction
moving on something. So let me start with my first
question here, Cindy, this is kind of a weird one.
But with all that you do, what do you consider
your job title to be?
Speaker 2: Number One? I am the creator of pleasure. That's what
I was born to do. That's I believe my that's
my purpose in life.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so talk me through it and maybe
this will give us reason. You know why you found
out or how you found out, were a giver, a
creator of pleasure. Can you talk me through how you
initially decided to get into the adult entertainment industry? What
were your steps? Did you have friends that pulled in.
Did you need money so you decided to do it.
Were you just always sexy so you were like, fuck it,
let's get paid.
Speaker 2: No, actually I was. I was working three jobs. I
was top five percent of the state of Nevada. I
was in the National Honor Society. I was flown to Washington,
d C. I'm at the President Clinton. They take me
to the basement. I was the only one that knows
that there's a fucking seventeen story building underneath the fucking
White House. Uh. I was, you know, I was all
on top of it. And then I went into college
for forensic science, and then my mom was like I
felt her dying. So I and then in the middle
of like forensic science where we were like dissecting bodies
and my mom had just died, I'm like, I'm out.
I'm like, book this nonsense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough. That's rough timing, especially.
Speaker 2: Since I was only six credits away from graduating. And
so I'm like, I'm like, huh, what else could I do?
What else could I do?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't never allowed to cut my hair as
a child, so it was like lady could dive it long,
and so when she died, I fucking chopped it off.
It was like, well now it's like long again. But yeah,
that's the story. And so after she died, I was like,
I just want to go to the beach. You know.
I took a bible. I packed a Bible and a map,
and I was racing a corvette on the freeway and
son Sylvia tried to get in the mix, you know,
and because my windows were too so tinted, they couldn't
tell if I was a man or a woman. I
smoked that fucking corvette because Sylvia fucking smokes me. And
so like when we finally got into traffic, I'm I
rolled down my window about this much. I'm like, Ouck's dude,
it's a hot dude. And he rolled down his windows.
Oh it's a chick. It's hot. I take I'm like,
pull the fuck over, just pull over. So we pulled
over at State line and I got out and we hugged,
and I ended up saying, if you get me into
the porn industry, I'll fuck your brain's out. So the
next day he took me to Sin City. He happened
to be the editor for Sincity and been married to
him for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Okay, that did not turn. That didn't go
the way I thought it was gonna go. That was
great though. Wait, so did he indicate to you that
this sounds like no offense if the movie the movie
stinks apparently? No, no, no, no, this sounds like the movie
stripped teas almost a little bit where you're like, oh, girl,
trying to find my way and they're like, no, not strip,
what is it? No? No, no, no, no, I get it.
I get it. Is that the one not strip tease?
What's the other one? Oh with the girl from Saved
by the Bell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is stripped Jesse from Save.
Speaker 1: By the Bell. No, no, it's not No, it's not
strip tease. Is Demi Moore? That show Girls is what
I'm talking about? You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's
such a great So, now did you indicate to him
at all that you were interested in porn or that
he was involved in porn or did you just throw
it out there, like if you can get me into porn?
And then he's thinking, I gotta fuck this girl. How
do I get her into porn?
Speaker 2: Well, so, I don't want to be like tragic or anything,
but after my mom died, I went into stripping, so
it was a stripper for a little while. And so
I kind of had this girl, you know where we
were the Zebra Twins and we were the only ones
allowed in the state of nevad to wear a cowboy hat.
It was a fucking I don't know. They're like they're
the Zebra Twins, that's it. And she was like, we
have this like five bedroom house that I can't pay
for because her husband, his best friend, had died in
some tragic tractor accident, so he was in like a
deep depression and all he would do is just play
video games and stuff like that. And I'm like you
have to, you have to confront him, tell him to
get off his ass and fucking pay for some shit.
And so, you know, we partied together or whatever, and
so he's like, I'm gonna kill myself. I'm gonna kill myself.
And this went on for like three years, like he
was just bringing her down, bringing I So one day
I'm like, if you're gonna kill yourself, just just fucking
do it. And then I heard a gunshot and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey yeah, and so I meanwhile,
me and her were fucking strip male strippers on the
side from upstairs from Olympic Garden.
Speaker 2: And so we rushed over there and it's like great, great,
And so that's that's what happened. And so when the
male stripper that she was dating said that he was
in love with me and said I was no longer
allowed at the house, I don't know if he thought
I was gonna like talk him at a suicide or something,
but I'm like, I'm out of here. Like I got
on the road. I packed a Bible and a fucking map,
and I'm like, I'm going to California. And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you seemed like such a natural right off
the bat. If you watch some of your early scenes
and I want to know, though, what was the first
speed bump you hit where someone made an offer to you,
or it was a specific type of scene or a
niche scene and you were kind of like shaky on it?
But then maybe how did you push through and fucking
really like, like, this is a career. It's not fun.
I know this is gonna be hard work, so I'm
gonna do the hard work.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you something. Every single step for
the first probably six seven years was a fucking like
a speed bump. Like when I first got in, I
was too thin. They said, oh, you look like a crackhead.
It looks like your own speed, looks like all this bullshtit.
So I was signed with Simon Wolf and then and
then my friends and my family hit Everyone was like
two thousand dollars a month is you can't do that?
So I did a few films with him and had
to cancel that. And then I was offered Playboy TV.
And the thing about that is on Playboard TV is
they have to have the rights to show the videos
when I'm offering it up. But nobody would nobody would
give the rights. So I'm like, check this video out
of somebody else, and there was no videos of me,
so next to that, and then so I was like,
I want to go hardcore. So I went to Hustler.
There was only three women that were offered this opportunity
for a new contract star for for Hustler, and I
went in and I swear like this entire apartment complex
was his his, fucking this fucking like this is your office,
Like this is crazy, So I can't. I came in,
I sat down and he was you know, he's like, yeah,
I really like your look. He's like, come around and
take your clothes off. I'm like, no fucking problem. And
he was like filling me up. And if anybody had
told me at the time that I was supposed to
suck his dick, I would have so, but I was uncomfortable.
I was like, what do I do. Do I suck
his dick and be unprofessional or do I let him
fill me up and say, oh, yeah, you're right for
the job. I did not get on my knees at
the wheelchair at that time, and nobody got the nobody
got the contract that nobody got that can I.
Speaker 1: Ask you, do you remember the other two girls?
Speaker 2: Or no, I do not, I do not, Okay, it
was it was just a sign in sheet.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? Okay. So okay, So you had like
almost that, and I don't know, maybe you've had it
many times. Maybe you don't want to talk. It's almost
like they talk about that casting couch kind of experience
in real life A little bit, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But but I was so new, I didn't know.
I didn't know, like if somebody, like if my agent
had been like, okay, going, you got this, drop to
your knees, suck as fucking wiener, do whatever you gotta do,
massage's fucking feet, you know I would have done that.
But nobody fucking told me that. So I walked in
thinking I don't want to be just another slut coming
in taking a clothes of its sadden as dick, you know.
Speaker 1: So sure, sure, okay.
Speaker 2: Had they told me that, they should have told me that,
I would have done that, no problem.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a couple more questions. Then we're
going to dive into that company that we're talking about
and what exactly we're doing. But you notably use your
real name on stage, I believe is that correct?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Funny story behind that also is the supermodel Cindy Crawford.
That's not her real name. Her real name is Cynthia Crawford,
Cynthia Ann Crawford. And when I was first starting out,
they made a real doll of me, and I had
a toy line from Topco which we had seventeen new
you know, adult stuff that I designed that I named
and I was the first part start ever to be
sent to China to promote this. Now when I when
I showed up in China, there was a two story
billboard of me, and when I stood up to the
to the to the show, there were five five Asian
women with a dozen roses each just to thank me
for coming. And I was like, this is fucking amazing.
So I get on the podium, I start to sign
my autographs. I signed about seven and then they start
to write Chinaman, just a sea of Chinaman, just grabbing
and pushing it, and they knocked over the podium and
so I was rushed out to the to the back
of the building into a limo. And that was my experience.
I got to sign seven fucking autographs and then yeah,
and then Sydney Crawford, the model stided me the toy
line and they didn't have money to fight it. And
so from then till now, I think she owes me
some fucking money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so too. That's your birth name.
She's just co opting and it sounds like.
Speaker 2: Just didn't have enough money to fight it, but we do.
Speaker 1: Now there you go, there you go at all. Let
me ask you, though, do you think do you think
as everything went more digital, do you think that actually
hurt you more than it helped you? Or did it help?
Because once Google starts putting in like safe search and
this and that, this Cindy Crawford, the Cindy Crawford I
grew up loving you is not going to be populated
at the top of that now, right.
Speaker 2: The only thing about social media, like the social media platforms. Okay,
people need to understand this, Okay. So when you go
to let's say I'm an eighteen year old male, okay,
and I'm looking at porn for the very first time,
top ten percent of porn hub is hired by let's say,
skank bank brawsers. And the only reason why they hire
those those women is because of their social media following.
They have to have a high social media following so
that they can sell the movies for them. So top
ten percent of brasers. Porn Hub is top ten of
like social media following. Now you can buy social media following,
you can pay I e. People And most of the
time it's not even the real chick that's like, you know,
responding to you. But if she has a high social
media following, the producers want to hire them because they're
fucking lazy and they want the chicks to sell the
movies for them. Now they're cutting out everybody else, including me.
Brassers won't hire me as a former I get the
the b rules like my grandma or our mills, you know, oh,
don't fuck my daughter type of bullshit. You know, it's
like that's fucking nonsense. And so Sam, an eighteen year
old male just coming into porn, I'm being brainwashed into
thinking that these women are the top and that's what
I should love because you know that they're trending and
that's everybody else loves. But nine times out of ten,
when you get on set with these women, they're all
about the money. They're all about the rules, like don't
kiss me in the face of let me know, but
don't touch my hair. You know, it's like, what are
you an internet prostitute? Like, get the fuck out of here.
I don't want to know about the Mercedes payment.
Speaker 3: Full the star as.
Speaker 2: Fucked because we like to fuck. I mean, like the
attention and these bitches come in like I'm just gonna
take a picture of my butt at the Taco Bell
drive through. This is my butt at the beach, and
this is my butt and a song, and this is
my button a different color song. It's like, it's fucking afraid,
get on with that nonsense.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, though, has the shift to
everything being like fully digital. Has that helped or hurt
performers in a sense, if you can get your only
fans up and you know, build your own content, there's
performers that don't have to tie into the studio system, right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, those are the girls that are not doing
hardcore scenes. Those are the girls that are you know,
those are the girls who are building relationships with let's
say they're subscribers, so it's more like a girlfriend experience
where they upload something every day. This is me, this
is needed. So these men come into this delusion to
where it's almost like I'm connected to her. We're kind
of like girlfriend and boyfriend. I'm I need this every
single day, whereas you know, if you want to fuck
you know. So the girls that are making and they
say one hundred thousand dollars, that's fucking bullshit. I looked
it up, and I have like five lawyers on my
team now, and they fucking looked it up. And anyone
that says that they're making millions of dollars not only fasts,
they're full of fucking garbage. They're lying to you. Show
me a statement, show me your big statements, show me
every time that you've downloaded. I want to pay out, payout,
pay and they can't produce that because they're fucking not set.
There's nobody making millions of dollars on only fans, especially
if you're not showing your ass.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to do a thing called stat check
that I do on this show, and basically we go
through the Adult Entertainment or the Internet adult film database,
and that covers any of your mainstream scenes that you've shot,
all of that, Okay, the performers you've worked with. Okay,
So for you total.
Speaker 2: What side? Are you going to use.
Speaker 1: The Internet Adult Film Database IAFD.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, do that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, amount of scenes you've shot five hundred
and sixty two, that is impressive. Okay, the amount of
guys you've worked with one hundred and sixty two.
Speaker 2: However, however, if you go to Adult Film Database, it's
like six hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: So okay, all right, well okay, well I'll need to
recalculate in the field. Let me just base it on
these numbers, because of already pulled them in. I want
to make sure you know. Oh man, I didn't know
there were two of those, by the way, I thought
there was just the one. So that's impressive. Scenes five
sixty two guys you've worked with one sixty two girls
you've worked with one fifty six. I have, and I
just do AVN because it's the easiest way to track.
I have six nominations and one win. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Are you're talking about yourself? You have six nominations in
one win?
Speaker 1: No, I was talking about you. I thought that was accurate.
Is that inaccurate?
Speaker 2: Inaccurate?
Speaker 1: Okay? What's inaccurate about that? Dina?
Speaker 2: I have six nominations and two wins.
Speaker 1: Two wins. My apologies. I will fix that. Two wins,
that's the.
Speaker 2: And I just this has not been validated yet, but
I just learned that I was. I won some XRCU award. Okay,
I don't know, like five years ago, but nobody told
me about.
Speaker 1: That's impressive you're winning. When yeah, you're winning, Why not
even paying attention?
Speaker 2: No, nobody notified me. It wasn't like like I'm just
living my life, doing my thing, and then I was
just looking up shit on the internet. I'm like, huh,
that's interesting, I won an award that nobody told me about.
There you goucking bizarre, right.
Speaker 1: That's because you're a legend. You just keep going legend.
I always say legend for performers that were around when
I was younger, but it's it almost is insulting. I
feel like I don't want to put an age that
you still want.
Speaker 2: Great people do call me legend. Even when I'm on
set just doing the b roll for like brassers and stuff.
There was this new performer and I was supposed to
be the milf uh and I'm supposed to walk in
on and you know, fucking in the night, I said,
let's do this instead of me like freaking out, Let's
do a fake thing. And so I throw myself on
the floor and I'm like, oh oh, somebody roses into
a wet cloth, and I mean it was amazing, And
so I get up so that they can do their
actual sex scene. And I'm walking down the stairs as
somebody goes Sidney Crawford, You're the goat. And at this
time I didn't know what goat meant. So I went last,
and I didn't find out until like two days later
that the greatest of all time. I'm like, how stupid?
How stupid do I sound? Right then? Like, I don't know,
but at least like the newbies, you know, they recognize
who I am.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's just.
Speaker 2: It's just trying to get everybody else in line.
Speaker 1: You know. If this is too personal, don't bring it up.
I've only seen you mention it in another interview, so
I'm okay asking it. But if again, if you don't
want to talk about that's fine. You were out of
me in the street for twelve years, right eight thirteen
years thirteen? And what led to you stepping away? When
was the actual decision to not when, but what caused
the actual decision, Like I need to stop doing this
for a.
Speaker 2: Bit, okay. So so when my entire family died, you know,
in succession, and I went into porn. And I was
doing okay for a while. But when you come to
a fact that, you know, when it sets in that
everybody's gone and everybody's dead, you kind of go into
this self destructive mode. And so I started. That's when
I got the tattoos, I started the brandings, I started slashing,
I started doing heavy, heavy drinking on set, and just
I was a fucking mess, you know. And so when
I when I decided to step away my very last year,
I was actually pregnant two thousand and eight, and that's
the year that I won two awards, and I couldn't
accept the awards because my ride, Jim Lane, that was
my only ride home because I was like, I was
so destituted. I was like and so like, I've got
to get out of this shit, you know. So I
stepped out and I did like high price escorting, but
that was even worse because it was almost too degragating.
So at that point I stopped, I stopped bathing, I
stopped brushing my hair. I stopped doing my makeup. I
just let my hair grow, you know, black, and it
got so redded up that it was like an enormous dreadlock,
like I couldn't There was no brushing it out, there
was nothing. So I remember just sitting in the bathroom
and it was just so heavy and so pulling on me,
and my husband just came up with the with the
like cutters. He's like Gan and like all my fucking
like half of my head just fell off, and I'm like, okay,
we we have to do something about this. This is
not working. So from then then point on, I started
working out and I'm like, you know what, I have
more to give. I have more to give. I'm fucking hot.
And so it took me three years propositioning every fucking
company with updated pictures, updated with it, for Jim Lane
to finally give me a fucking shot and my first
scene back with a seven black eyed game. Bang. So
I went with one oh one fucking nonsense, don't even
get me started with that. I have a lawsuit against
uh one on one because friand defamation of character needs
to be docked. So I went from one on one
and then I went from another one and then I
went with te Reals Agency was his ideal image models,
and so then he's like, I know you are not
what people perceive you to be before, and I'm like,
thank you. So then he gave me a shot and
then I came back and now here we are.
Speaker 1: There you go. So when you did that seven guy gangbang,
was that a lot to jump into? Like how did
you feel the next day? Were you exhilarated? Where you
fucking wiped? Like? What was that? Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, after thirteen years, I'm not having huge black dix
in your butt. The nervous system beforehand was like I
don't know if I can do this, Like your what
your sweat your ass off? You're like you're like, but
I was like, you got this, you got this. We
practiced at home. We practiced at home. But it's like
once you get back into it, like the first scene
back you're like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing.
What the fuck am I doing? But then the next
one you're like, oh, I know.
Speaker 4: What the fuck I'm doing. Almost like riding a bike
with one pedal, it's like and then you get the
next pedal and you're like oh, I remember this.
Speaker 2: Exactly what I do.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what you are currently doing. So
you're back full time now with a mission, and that
is resurrecting an iconic brand, Anarchy Films. Now, the first
porn DVD I ever bought was an Anarchy Films DVD. Okay,
it was hor Gaggers too. And you know what's so funny.
I look back at all my favorite performers and so
many of them were on that DVD. So I think
it's like almost a first impression what you get and
you go, oh, I'm locked into this person for life.
Now I love this person, I love this performance.
Speaker 2: I can almost Yeah, this is my first.
Speaker 1: Dy So let me ask you, what was Anarchy's calling card?
Why is this so important for you to bring it back? Like?
Was it? I should ask you because I don't know
the behind the scenes. Is this a label that you
owned at the time, or you participate? I know you
did a lot of shoots for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like playing with Sydney Crawford. That whole line
is huge. Okay. So Anarchy Films was just like a
production company back in the day, and they have like
the four hundred and fifty six titles now the owner
of Anarchy Guy. I'm not gonna say his last name
because he won't even let me take a picture of
him because I fucked him earlier and he's in a
different industry now and it won't mix. But Guy and
his dad and the wife, they owned Anarchy, Python and
Fifth Element Films. Now, out of the blue, he contacts
me and he says, I want to get out of
the porn industry and there's nobody in this industry that
I feel would be better to give my entire company too.
And I'm like, are you freaking serious? So we met
and there was a huge I mean, it took us
five days to empty this storage unit with like three
guys working non stop just to get all of the content,
all of the cams, the DVDs, the you know, everything
out And so I'm like, why are you doing this?
Why are you getting this to me? He's like, because
I know you are the one that's going to take
this somewhere. I'm like, well, thanks for the vote of confidence.
Can I get a signature all that ship? So signed
the paperwork right on his Mercedes and that was done.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right?
Speaker 2: And yes, and yes I did have sex with him
earlier today, but that was just because I like him.
I'm hoping for the indeed to be inducted into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: So have you Have you been told there's a chance
of that yet? Are you up for it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's not. It's not a thing that you're
up for. You know. It's not like a nomination. It's
not like but I think I'm going to get it
this year. I think I'm gonna be inducted into Amian
Hall of Fame. Everybody crossed your fingers.
Speaker 1: Well if you feel if you don't get in and
you feel bad, just remember this that Tupac got into No,
don't do that. Tupac got into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame before Ozzy did.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, who the fuck is running that shit?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. So look if for some reason.
Speaker 2: Pepper Yes got in like two years ago, like.
Speaker 1: What it's it's yeah, it's crazy. So look, if you
don't get in this year, you will eventually get in
because you are that legendary performer. So take me through
what are we gonna do with this newfound company? And
let me ask you, is it just the Anarchy brand
or is it the two other brands as well that
he owned.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Anarchy, Anarchy Pictures, Python Pictures, and Fifth Element Films.
It's like there's three brands. However, just going to hone
in on Anarchy as for now because they have the
most titles. Fifth Element Films is more of like like
the Blacks, the Asians, the you know, the that type
of stuff. Python Pictures didn't do a lot of titles,
but I was thinking about changing the name to Python
Histures like PI s Stures and making it full gay
gay like kink stuff like gay kink like pissing and
and all that kind of stuff, and I and I
brought it up. I brought it up the guy today
and he's like, why the fuck didn't we think of that?
But my silent partner as for now says, we need
to tackle one thing at a time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. That makes sense. That does
make sense. I think Archy's the strongest name out of
them too, Like it makes me recognize, hey, this is
a this is a thing that's going to be exciting. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, if you go on any search, any you know
platform that you buy adult movies on, type in Anarchy Films,
and there's tons of that tons and I own every
single one of them.
Speaker 1: So that's really cool, and that's really nice. And again,
you went through your troubles and and the stuff you
had to deal with, but you seems like you're coming
out the other side, Like you've already come out the
other side. But now we're growing from there. You know,
you were buried for a while. You're crawling. You crawled out.
Now it's time to start scaling that mountain, you know.
And absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I own the world at one point, we're going to
own everything.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. If some guy calls you a
news office to try and give you the world, what
you gotta do? What do we what did we learn
we have to do now? If someone is in an
office and they're trying to give you something, make sure
it's worth it. Oh I was gonna say, suck is dick?
Speaker 2: Uh make sure it's worth sucking it?
Speaker 1: Then that's fair enough. Yeah, you should you should verify
first that. Uh yeah yeah. So okay, so what is
the plan. Are we going to just start doing things
under that title? Are you getting a domain name and
are you going to build like a pay site with it?
Are we just going to take the full collection of everything,
and uh put it online so people can access all
of that, like what maybe early days, but what is
the plan for it?
Speaker 2: Okay, so there are tons and tons of content unreleased,
you know, behind the scenes, photos, scenes, all kinds of
stuff that has not been released yet. Titless like these,
we're going to continue like the like Nutbusters series or
Pop that Cherry. We're going to incorporate the new girls
and we're going to continue those lines. Now. My idea
is I want to do like It now and then
type of thing where because the newbies, like the millennials,
they don't fucking know what porn is. What I want
to do is I want to splice something really really
fucking old, like Nina Hartley, and I want to put
Nina Harley in a scene and then splice it with
a brand new scene and then an old scene and
a new scene, old scene, new sing so that they're
you know, comparative to what you know porn should be.
Now that's one line, and then of course we're going
to continue with like like Chocolate Lovers and let's see
young young, young hip humpsters. I want to I might
change a few of the titles there but but sweets
brown Sugar. You know, we have I'm represented by ideal
image models right now, and uh, September wants to be
one of our you know, first shot scenes. And she's
actually posting a toy drive here in Las Vegas, and
you know, and like a Naho, you know, these new
girls we want to we want to incorporate everybody. You know,
I'm not trying to be one of those companies like
porn Hub. You know. I don't want the top ten
percent just because they're fucking hot. I want everybody that
loves a fuck, you know. I want everybody old, young,
you know, new, you know whatever, fat, you know, because
porn is not about just fucking on camera. It's about
loving the experience of having an intimate sexual relationship, with
loving yourself and loving your partner. And if that helps
somebody who's watching it come out of their stell and
do the.
Speaker 1: Same, I think that. I think that's great.
Speaker 2: Our new model is is we fuck everyone, including the system.
Speaker 1: Oh and that's great for anarchy. I think that's great.
I really do. I think that's a great tagline. That's
so funny. Oh I well, Cindy, we gotta wrap this
one up. I'm out of time. But you, like I
said before, legend, I think you're gonna do great with this.
I really do. I think you have the drive for it.
I think you had to have the for it when
you got into this industry. You succeeded. You went all
the way to the top. You've got an awards that
you don't even know you got, apparently, And I don't know.
When I see performers like you from my I don't
want to say childhood, but my college time, okay, over eighteen,
I think, you know, damn, there should be more opportunities
for them to grow in this industry, to age in
this industry. I got. If they tell you to play
a mom, you don't look like an old lady mom,
but take it because I want to see you in
more scenes. I need to see more content of you.
You're one of my favorite performers of all time. Let
me ask this last question, what do you think the
end game is? Are you going to be doing this
till you're seventy five shooting guilf porn or do you
have a number you'd be set at and you want
to step away? Do you have an age that you think,
oh if I get here, and I'd like to just
be entirely behind the camera at this point. What's like
the future for Cindy Crawford in terms of staying in
the industry.
Speaker 2: Okay, for me, this is my life. This is what
I was born to do. There is no set out game.
When I am dead is when I am out. If
I'm no longer accepted in the industry, I will find
another way in period. I'm not quitting. I'm not stopping.
And even if I were to get an accident, a
car accident tomorrow, I would find another way. Paraplegic porn. Fine,
this is my drive, this is my life, this is
my living, This is what I was set to do.
This is my purpose in life.
Speaker 1: Shallow, No, not at all, Not at all. I respect it.
You know what you want to do and you're reaching
out to do it, folks if you want to check it.
Speaker 2: Not stopping till und No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Do we have an kind of what should we do
to watch for these updates on Anarchy? Are you gonna
be posting them on Twitter? Are you gonna post them
on your only fans? Like the fans want to know
you got to give them a little something on like,
when this stuff's kicking off, are you gonna tease them
a little? If anyone knows how to tease, it would
be Cindy Crawford.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. So ABN dot com is the best
for the news as to when we shoot our first scene,
that's gonna be headline news. Other than that, like the
the stuff that we're shooting now, which is the first
week of January right before ABN, we're kind of keeping
it hush hush because we want it to be like
a like a blast. We don't want to be like, Okay,
something's coming up and maybe starring these people, it's going
to be a complete blast. So right before Avian Avian
is the adan show, I should say, is Tory one
through the twenty fourth. So right then we're gonna shoot
the very first movie I should say, five scenes, okay,
all mixed mixed up, meaning blacks, whites, Asians. I've even
got a gay guy that that's gonna do a woman
and a man at the same time, So okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, folks, I will also retweet anything
I come across about this. I'll put it out there
because again I wasn't bullshitting like I know my first title,
like I said, by name, I know the all of
the performers that were on it, and it was an
anarchy film. So I'm excited. And then on top of that,
I'm excited for a performer that I respect, like you,
to be taking on the reins of that, and I
think it's a great challenge. And you know what, it
won't on knock on would But if it doesn't work out,
I know Cindy Crawford is just gonna pivot to find
something new. You can't keep her out of this, folks.
You can't keep her out of this. Remember, if you
want to check her out, it's at Cindy Crawford, exactly
where you think it is. Okay. Links to that are
going to be in the episode description include all the
links for everything she's doing. And that initial article about
you launch relaunching anarchy film, I thought it was great.
I thought it was really really good. I was so excited.
It was honestly like I went back in a fucking
time machine. If I'm being honest with you, it was
like Cindy Crawford anchy. I'm used to getting flooded with
the ten biggest social media girls, right and so I
see that and I go, oh my god, this is like,
this is like two thousand and seven, two thousand and
nine all over again. I love this shit. So I'm
very I'm very excited to see where you go from here.
And again, even if you decide no, this isn't the path,
but we're going to do this. I think you're going
to do just fine. I think you're going to do
just fine.
Speaker 2: And it's very hard to get on the front page
of Baby And by.
Speaker 1: The way, again a big deal shout out to.
Speaker 2: Beth, Thank you, thank you very much, Dan Miller
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen this year, come on,