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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three,

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episode forty of clips and Dim. I am Chuck Lockley.

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We got the full crew today. Adam osn Will Updike

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is here. We hope everyone is being safe. We hope

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everyone is doing everything they can to feel Okay, We're

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gonna keep it a little short for you all to day.

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We're talking the Clippers versus the heat and kind of

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some of the Clippers issues right now. Adam and Will,

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we haven't spoken all three is a unit on the

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show in a while. The Clippers game was delayed on Saturday.

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I think we all understood why. Uh Will, Adam, how

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are you? How are you? Fellas doing doing good?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been a wild It's been a wild

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five days. If you live in southern California, it's been

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kind of a lot. So Uh, yeah, I'm doing I'm

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doing all right.

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Speaker 1: Adam in the car ready to go at a moment's notice.

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Should he have to? If you're missing If you can't

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see out of in the car, check us out at

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YouTube dot Comm Sacklippers Podcast. Adam, how are you? How's

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the new cat? I'm sure that's nice to have in

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this kind of stressful time.

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Speaker 3: Hanging in there. It has been nice have a little

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cat companionship while I'm hanging out at home a lot.

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I had someone come over yesterday because there's no way

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I could figure this out in a suitable amount of time.

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So I went on a task rabbit and had someone

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build me this huge cat tree. And this guy got

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done at like forty five minutes with all his you know,

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power tool stuff that would it's probably taken me all day.

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So the cats like to climb the cats in heaven?

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Speaker 1: Is the cat tree larger than your home? Because power

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tool sounds intimidating for how large of a cat tree.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's I think it's over seven feet tall.

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It's like eighty inches tall. It's got all these little

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swinging you know, little cat balls or a mouse they

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can play with, and a rope, and it's just it's

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like it's a cat mansion.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, all right, Adam's a full on cat dat

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Now that's fantastic man. Okay, So before we talk about

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Clippers versus heat and a little bit of the nets game,

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we kind of have to talk about how the Clippers

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have not been very good over the last fifteen games. Well,

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they're gonna look at five games sample sizes for these

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upcoming games. But over the last fifteen games, Clippers are

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seven and eight. They've slipped in a lot of things

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that I think kind of just show some fatigue. Right.

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They've slipped in every rebounding stat total, rebounds and percentages.

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They've slipped in three point percentage. They've slipped in defensive

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rating still top ten, they've slipped an offensive rating. Will

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what do you think you see? Is it just fatigue

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or the guy? Is it really the dog days of

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the season, as Tyler has talked, and we're just kind

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of like burn in the last of the oil before

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Kawhi gets fully fully back into playing the full slate

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of what he does.

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Speaker 2: Means That's That's what I hope it is, right because

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if not, the answer is that this is a regression

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to the means from where the Clippers had over exceeded

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early in the season, and maybe this is a little

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bit closer to what this team is, which would be very,

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very disappointing. So yes, I'm hoping, I'm optimistic that this

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is just kind of thedulgence of the season. It's difficult

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to maintain that sort of energy on the boards. It's

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difficult to maintain that sort of defensive intensity, especially when

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you get around, you know, that post holiday stretch, pre

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All Star break. I feel like it's a very weird.

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It must be a very weird time to play. It's

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a very weird time, like just in the regular workplace

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for an average human being. So I, you know, I

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can't imagine what the vibes are like, you know, on

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the team, but I think that that's been clear on

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the court too well. I still feel like, you know,

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this team, last couple of losses, aside they largely are

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in most of these games, we have seen more double

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digit losses in this last fifteen game span two, which

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is a little bit more concerning, whereas the margin of

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loss wasn't as large earlier in the season. So I'm

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hoping that it is just it's something that just needs

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a reset and to sort of re establish those habits.

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The good thing is, right, is that they had them,

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and we've seen it, and we've seen the identity, and

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we've seen it consistently enough that we know what this

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team is and we know what they're going to do.

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It's not like years past where it's like yeah, are

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they this? Are they this?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: They need to find a new thing. Oh this is

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who we are blah blah blah blah. So that is encouraging,

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right that they at least know the they know where

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to course correct too, Like they're not, you know, they're

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not navigating this in the dark. But I think if

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if you're a Clipper span and you're looking at this

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roster and you're thinking about the age, and you're looking

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at the competition in the West, let's just keep our

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fingers crossed that this is just a little bit of

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fatigue in thedulgrums of the season.

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Speaker 1: I like what you said kind of about the regression

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to the mean, because Adam, you kind of brought up

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the rebounding last week a little bit, and we've all

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praised and kind of been pleasantly surprised at how good

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the Clippers rebounding has been kind of up until this

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last stretch. Do you think the rebounding is going back

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to the mean? I don't you know what?

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Speaker 3: A yeah? I like, well, yeah, the rebounding to me,

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the rate at which they were rebounding at wasn't sustainable

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based upon personnel, but it's gotten so low now this

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isn't sustainable either. Somewhere in the middle between these two things, like,

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I don't think they're a bottom five They basically went

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from like a top five rebounding team to a bottom

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five rebounding team over the last fifteen games, and that's

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too much of a swing for me to believe that

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they can keep rebounding this poorly. I think they're better

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than this. But also, you know what, they've lost four

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or five. They are two and four of their last

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six games, and over the last six games, their defensive

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is their defensive ranking is twentieth the last six games,

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so and if you go back seven now it's tenth.

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So it's really just the last six games where it's

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been really bad on the defensive end. And they've started

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off a couple of those games well, obviously the Atlanta

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games in there where they blew them out, they had

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the big early lead in ok See in Minnesota, they

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let go of both of those, and they got crushed

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by Denver the other night, which I think was, you know,

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some really unique circumstances. That's kind of an outlier. But

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even before that, the defensive numbers were down over this

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recent stretch here, So your point of talking about fatigue,

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I think that's it for the most part. I think

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fatigue dog days, getting Kawhi Lehnaback a lot of moving

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parts at once for this team to try to figure out.

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But but as Will was saying, they know what they

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need to do, they know the way to play, They've

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done it the majority of the season. It shouldn't take

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a herculean effort for them to get back to basics

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and get back to having that defensive identity, which is

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a lot of what they talked about today of practice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was interesting to your point about

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just that Wednesday game against the Nuggets, Niko Batoomb talking

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about that about how he was checking his phone up

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until like three minutes before tip off and you know,

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planning the I can't I mean that it was crazy

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they played that game. I think we can probably all agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Team Man basically said, yeah, I didn't want to

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play that game.

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Speaker 1: No, it was yeah, come on pregame, Tye. Yeah, Tyleru

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was like, we're going to try, like I'm going to

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try and get something out of these guys, but none

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of us really into it right now. Yeah, and the

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Kawhi it's tough too, because like we've had two games

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back with Kawhi and the way that they're managing his

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minutes right is, for the long run, it makes sense

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he plays the longer stretches he gets to his twenty minutes.

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He's not gonna be closing games. That's that's just how

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it goes. But that also is making kind of course

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correction I think a little more difficult, right because it's

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kind of the in game rhythm. You're going from kind

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of the full rotation in the first half to the

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full rotation for like six and a half minutes of

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the second half, and then you're shortened again. So like

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there's some rhythm issues that I get to.

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Speaker 2: Disagree with this a little bit. I gotta bush back

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on this a little bit. Kauai has been in two

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of these fifteen games like that, you know this isn't

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a Kauai issue.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I wasn't blaming Kawhi. I met it.

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that seems like it's just throwing an extra thing they

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have to deal with in terms of like Kawhi ramping up. No,

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it's not sure, it's never a problem, and sure we.

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Speaker 2: Haven't even seen Kawi at like seventy five percent I

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would say of his capacity, but like he very meaningfully

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improves the Clippers as a team in every single one

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of these metrics that we've seen slide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was minus eleven and I think for that

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one stretch in the mini game. But again he's coming

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back and they do have that blueprint. Is this next

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slate of games kind of what they need. Like their

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their schedule isn't incredible, right we have I mean, whenever

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they're gonna play the horn, Yeah, it's heat nets Blazers.

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That's a stretch where they can kind of figure at

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least the defensive stuff out, because we're gonna get into

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some of the heat stats of the last five games

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they've been bad. But like this feels like a part

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of the schedule, schedule they can kind of get right

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a little bit. I would hope.

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Speaker 3: They should. They need to go at least when two

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of those next three, uh, if not win the next

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three altogether, because it is a back to back Wednesday, Thursday,

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Wednesday at home against Brooklyn, Thursday a night up in

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Portland against the Blazers, So that's not easy. An they're

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back to back. They need to be able to kind

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of write the ship before taking on the Lakers, because

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I think that's gonna be a really tough game. Like

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these four Lakers games coming up within the span of

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a month and a half, it feels consequential, it feels

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very meaningful to how both these teams end up finishing

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in the standings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these teams are half a game, and it

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could be and like it could come down it could

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come down to that. Who knows, but yeah, I would

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agree it's it's again, no team is a tune up

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team unless this, unless we are fully healthy. But this

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is an opportunity on the schedule after you know, it's

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understandable if they hit a wall, and I do think,

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you know, like I said, I worry that it's a

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reggression of the means, but it's also understandable that they

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were kind of losing focus and losing some of like

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the vigor and intensity at the same time is taking

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on a pretty rough stretch of games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you overachieve too, like every I think,

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I don't. We don't use a lot of blanket statements

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on this pot, but I think most people would agree

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that the Clippers overachieved with Kawhi Leonard out of the lineup.

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Right to overachieve kind of by just lodgely, you have

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to over exert yourself compared to right like, so I

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think that has something to do with it. And so

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this Spur we talked about the Lakers game being important,

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the Spurs game is important for the standings. We're two

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games ahead of the Spurs coming up like that, and

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that is like, these are crunch time games. The seating

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is so jammed up right now. So I think, out

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of my agree, they got to get two out of

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three here for me to feel like pretty good, you know,

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not as stressed I guess about the seating, because yeah,

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that Laker game, that's gonna be a lot. I think.

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Speaker 3: One thing that stands out most just the easiest answer

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to a lot of the problems going on on the

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offensive vent at least obviously Kawhi Leonard can fix what

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ails them there. But they started off the season the

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first twelve games they were seventeenth offensively, and that was

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pretty solid for a team without Kawhi Leonard. But the

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reason that happened is because they were third and three

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point shooting during that time. They were shooting thirty nine percent,

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and as soon as Derek Jones Jr. And Chris Dunn regressed,

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as they have, well now the last thirteen games, they're

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twenty fifth on the offensive. Vent is I gets as

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simple as just some of the three point shooting from

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them has dramatically shifted back to guys you know career averages.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if it's gonna be like we're kind

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of dealing with, you know, some of the Terrence Man effect,

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but times three now because we have done and Derek Jones,

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who like the outside shooting for Terrence Mann. Last year,

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it was very bad to start and then it kind

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of evened out and we were good. It feels like

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we're maybe getting a little bit of the opposite with

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dun and Derek Jones Junior. But I'm hoping they start

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falling because well, we were talking about this last time

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we watched the game together. Teams are funneling the ball

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to Chris Dumb. Teams are standing there and borderline just

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holding their arms like this on defense. So Chris duncan

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if he just gets into another rhythm. I don't know.

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I hope it can. It can come back soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Well I mean, we'll see it can't be

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this bad.

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Speaker 1: Right because I think Justin Rousseau tweeted it out. Also,

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a wonderful reporter. We refer to him as Rousseau because

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Adam does so. He sounds like a French Canadian fir dropper.

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It's very funny, but he's a wonderful reporter and you

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should subscribe to. Russo writes. He had a tweet that

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I'm trying to find where like Done is shooting something

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like twenty six percent from corner threes or something like

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that recently, and he's not that bad. We know that

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he's not, you know, a lights out shooter, but he's

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not twenty Yeah, it's real bad, Like it's got to

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come back at some point.

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Speaker 3: He and DJ are both career thirty two percent three

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point shooters, and Done over his last thirteen games is

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about thirty two percent, So it's not as bad as

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it was for a while. He's gotten a little bit better.

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of a hot streak, that would be pretty big for

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this team.

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Speaker 2: Like a little bit of a who do you put

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your bet on who who's more likely to snap into

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a hot streak.

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Speaker 3: I bought the numbers DJ, but.

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Speaker 2: Take that to the bank. Adam Osley at the over.

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That the over on DJ.

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Speaker 3: Threes he's been he's been really bad lately, so he's

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the one who should probably start progressing more to the

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mean more drastically. But uh, I neither guy has proven

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it at this level. Like DJ is what at thirty

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five percent from three now in the season, after I

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think the first twelve games he was shooting like forty eight.

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Speaker 1: Percent from three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotten. It's gotten pretty dramatically down for him

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over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And it may Yeah, it's wild because it looks so

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much worse. I didn't realize that he. I figured he

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was probably like ten percent below his career average from

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watching it. But he's just hovering right around there.

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Speaker 1: He's doing a thing. And the stuff that's what makes

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it hard too is like Done and Derek Jones Jr.

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Are effectively competing for the last starting spot. I know

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we're doing this rotating thing for a while, but the

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starting lineup is going to solid ay at some point.

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We're not going into the playoffs. The last five games

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before the playoffs, aren't gonna play with the rotating starting lineup,

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is all, don't. I don't think that's gonna happen. So

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this I think makes it hard a little bit harder

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for ty Lu too. He's like, both these guys are

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shooting poorly, like great, Like this doesn't really help him

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figure out who's gonna start. I don't think maybe I'm

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blowing it too much out of proportion with the starting

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lineup stuff, but like it's gonna settle at some point,

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or has to me.

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Speaker 3: It's destiny for DJ to stay in the starting lineup,

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because the whole logic of he needs Chris Dunn out

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there for another ball handler is gonna go by the wayside.

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Once Kawhi Leonard gets up to thirty minutes again, then

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you have the other ball handler. So I would think

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that means DJ, by the end of the season will

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be the more consistent starter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and will you're on team start Derek Jones Junior.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been on record. I just think it

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makes I just think it makes more sense. I obviously

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things change if if Done goes on a hot streak

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from three or something, because I do see that being

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very valuable, especially with how slow the offense has been,

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at least until Kawhi rams back up. But assuming like

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assuming full health, which I know is saying a lot.

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It just makes a lot more sense for me to

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for Derek Jones junior and there. And I've talked about

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it before, but I just like the athleticism, I like

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the versatility and just having some more size. I just

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don't with the type of guards that we have on

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this team, I just don't really see the argument for

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having three of them in your starting lineup. I don't

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see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't see Yeah, and we'll know. I don't know

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when we're gonna know what the starting lineup solidifies too,

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But it has to happen at some point. Anything else

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on the Clippers woes. Before we get into a breakdown

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of a team that very much could help them get

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out of some of these offensive.

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Speaker 3: Woes, get back to the defensive identity.

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Speaker 1: Guys, be better be We got be better play better defense?

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All right? Coming up, we are going to be talking

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the Clippers versus Heat game, which as of four fifty

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seven PM on January twelve, is happening. It's obviously a

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fluid situation. I want to give a big old f

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you to the Santa Ana wins because they're not making

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anything easier. We're gonna be breaking that game down. There's

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gonna be a quick audio break coming up in three two.

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Speaker 2: What hey, welcome back into clips and Dip. You're just

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seeing us in real time. Do an ad break for

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no reason. If you're watching this on YouTube, which you

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should be, that's over at YouTube dot com Slash That

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Clippers podcast. But anyways, we talked a little bit about

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the Clippers and the wall they're hitting. Could this next

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little stretch of games be the remedy to get things right?

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TB tvd Uh, Chuck, where are you at? What do

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you see as the uh, the easiest game here to

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get a win?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they got the heat on Monday. The nets

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they play on Wednesday. The nets are so bad. I

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think it's it's gotta be the nets. Call me crazy, Adam, You're.

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Speaker 2: More so than the heat, even with like how dysfunctional

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the heat are.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, because over the last five games, here's

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the nets. Here's what the nets are twenty ninth in

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They're twenty ninth in the three categories over the last

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five games. Offensive rating points per game and plus minus

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that you know, like if there was a team.

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Speaker 3: Hey, the Nets are trying to make up for winning

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too many games earlier in the season. Right now they

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are trying to get back into the capture of the

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flag hunt, especially after Cooper just dropped forty the.

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Speaker 2: Tail of two course corrections. Really, between the Clippers and

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the Nets.

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Speaker 1: This is some Potti coom. These are two teams who

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they should just say, Hey, this is what we're trying.

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It's gonna be like a preseason game how Doc Rivers

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talked about. You tell each other what you're gonna run.

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That's what we should get from this Nets game. The

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defense should look better versus the Nets on Wednesday. Their

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offense has been so bad. For what it's worth, the

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Clippers have been twenty sixth in points per game over

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the last five games. But I believe in our offense

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more than the Nets offense. The heat might be difficult though,

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injury report wise, Kawhi will be available, his family everything.

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He seems good to come back after checking on his family,

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which if you had a problem with I don't know,

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go fuck yourself. I guess this is a battle of

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two really wonky offenses. Over the last five games, Heat

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are twenty fifth, Clippers are twenty eight, So this might

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be a bit of a rock fight. And the Heat's

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defense has been good over the last five games, so

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it might be a little frustrating tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have won three in a row after losing

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the first two without Jimmy Butler with the suspension. I

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was looking at the on off numbers on the season

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when Jimmy's on the court versus off. When he's on

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the court, they have basically a top five offense. When

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he's off, they got a bottom five offense. It's it's

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a huge drastic swing from one way to the other.

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So offensively they're struggling, but they're leaning into their defense

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even more right now to try to get victories.

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Speaker 1: And leaning into the defense more against the Clippers teams

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offense has slipped is a little scary. Will I know

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your big bugaboo assist a turnover ratio. Clippers are twenty

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fifth and that over the last five games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's looked at it, Loo, it's looked

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a little it's.

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Speaker 1: Past both the Itechs and the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's looked a little disjointed.

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Speaker 3: What are they on the season, Chuck, I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Let me pull those Is it that much more than

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what they have about teams traditional? Excuse me have to

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go to the advanced stats assist a turnover ratio twenty third.

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Speaker 2: WHOA not bottom five?

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Speaker 1: Hey, not bottom five? But they have slipped two spots,

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so I guess they're just playing their usual careless brand

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of basketball.

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Speaker 2: Over It's always been kind of a Clippers thing, right,

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Like it was in the last iteration of two and three,

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it was like, if we can keep it to like

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like fourteen turnovers a game, we're probably we're giving ourselves

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a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we saw it like, I mean, we got

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lucky last year too, right, Harden had one game with

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five turnovers or more and it was five, which we

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would all be pretty happy with. Like gone on those days,

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I think, Yeah, I don't know, the heat, it's wonky.

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They're always a team that, like the guys who want

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to play for the heat at the current moment, always

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play hard and stuff like that. So this is a team.

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I'm not going to talk about, you know, heat culture

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or whatever, but they they've got a.

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Speaker 2: Chip on their shoulder. They always got kind of a

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chip on their shoulder, and now with the Jimmy Butler stuff,

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it's kind of doubly so it's not exactly yeah, it's

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it's not a matchup to take lightly despite sort of

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you know, again we'm talking about how this team doesn't

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play to other teams records, but it is they're in

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a spot right now where, you know, like they have

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no incentive to not win. They could have, you know,

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a wealth of picks coming their way potentially on what

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goes down with this, or at least a couple or

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at least a first rounder, so you know, there's there's

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no need for them to lose games. And if anything,

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they're trying to audition for the next you know, whoever

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they end up getting in there or if they're able to,

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you know, transition to the next phase of the you know,

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they're sort of dominance because this is a team that's know,

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like a year of what two years removed from a

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finals run. I mean, it's not like.

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Speaker 1: In a finals run that everyone was kind of like.

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Speaker 2: It's i mean, like say what you want to say,

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like you still gotta make I mean, you gotta made

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it the finals. You play the teams in front of

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you and I don't know what you want to say.

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Speaker 1: They did, but I mean that kind of plays into

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the fact of like they're not you know that was

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that was a finals run that a lot of people

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didn't see coming. Let's just say so, it's like they

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were doing more with less. That that plays more into

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the like the new identity type thing.

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Speaker 3: They're gritty and they're gonna have something to prove right

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now without Jimmy Butler, so I'm sure they're extra motorvade.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like, I don't know if it's a

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trap game because the Clippers haven't been playing well enough

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for it to be considered a trap game, you know

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what I mean, there should be no track game. Yeah,

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that's fair.

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Speaker 3: That for people thinking that Miami has just totally falling off.

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They're twenty and seventeen, just like the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing bombs, playing pick up with a bunch

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of plumbers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, there is something to that, but I still

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think there's two good.

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Speaker 2: Teams in the East and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: They're all old. They're all guys who play in the nineties.

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They're playing a bench a bunch of sixties and seventy

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year Olds over there. Yeah, it's gonna be I think

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it's gonna be too close for coming.

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Speaker 2: Twenty and seventeen in the West. Hits different, all right,

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it's all I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I agree, I think the Keeppers are better, but

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Miami's defense could make this a hellish type of ball band.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if they get And we've seen kind of

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the blueprint to make Norms life difficult, which is be

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physical with him. Right. We saw the Nuggets really put

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that on display with Jamal Murray on him. We lout

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Dort obviously, and I'm interested, like, this is a tough

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test for Coo too, right, because we've seen him, we've

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seen him shoot threes. Well, he hasn't been as willing

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and I don't mean that with any negative connotation to

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drive the ball. He's getting back into basketball shape. It

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makes sense. The lift on that one reverse layup was

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a little So this is a this is this is

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a difficult game. I've now veered into being more worried

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about this game because I want I want Kawhi's twenty

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minutes to be good for Kawhi and selfishly, well that

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means they're good for the team anyway. But this is

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gonna be tough for Kawhi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder who they're gonna have on him. It's

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gonna be Haimi Hawkes out of U. C. L. A. Rosier,

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or if they're gonna put Bam on him. He did

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have one of his best dunks of last season was

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on Bam who tried to guard him on the baseline

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and Kawhi blew by right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna muck up the game. It's gonna be a challenge.

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And you know that's if the Clippers. It's still gonna

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be tough to focus in. I know where days removed

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from what happened in Den, but now they're back home

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in their own backyard. How are you not going to

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be thinking about it?

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Speaker 1: And like we mentioned, or we we didn't mention, we

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were talking before this, we're not out of this yet

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for the people like the Santa Ana Wins are still

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being their rude, unhelpful selves, seemingly earlier in this week.

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So that's why we kind of talked about the game

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being played as of now, we'll see what happens. Then

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they played the Nets Wednesday, who again horrendous basketball over

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the last five outings. Anything else to say before we

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pick our player of the games game. We're just gonna

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do game for the Heat game tomorrow night. I'm good, Adam. No,

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We're gonna go with Will because I think Adam went

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first last time. Well, you're Kawhi, Leonard Avitza Zubats, Norm Powell,

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James Harden, Jordan Beller honorary player of the game.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, uh, I'll go with Chris don Let's say

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I'll contradict Adam even though I agree with him that

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I do think that DJJ is due. Let's say Chris

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Dunn has a has a solid shooting.

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Speaker 1: Name, Okay, and we know the defense will be on point. Yeah,

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Adam your player of the game pick.

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Speaker 3: I took that as a challenge, and I'm gonna go

532
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with Derek Jones Jr. Against his former team, against his

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former two.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you think he's starting?

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Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna start against Minnesota. It's possible.

536
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It's possible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's possible. That is that is as true as

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you can get with this quick. The one thing we

539
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know for sure is that it is possible that Derek

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Jones Junior will maybe start home Monday. I'm gonna go.

541
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We're gonna need to spark off the bench. I'm gonna

542
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go with mere coffee. A mere coffee is gonna have

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one of those nights where timely three here scrapping for

544
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a loose ball gets the foul call or something like that.

545
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I think a mere coffee is gonna be incredibly helpful

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for the Clippers. He kind of has to be. I

547
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think tomorrow, and I hope Terence Mann has a good

548
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game because they're still trying to figure out his minutes,

549
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which makes things wonky too. Okay, So I got I

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have one A one B.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: That about wraps it up for this little condensed clips

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and dip. We hope everyone is doing okay. We're gonna

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be doing a postgame live either after the Hornets or

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the Nets game. Not entirely sure. If you're able to

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help anyway with these fires. I'm sure there's some local

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volunteer things near you. Check it out. Check out Ktown

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for all. A lot of good stuff going on there

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will Where can these people recommend to listen to this

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podcast if people need something to just forget about what's

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going on outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can listen to this podcast wherever you get

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your podcasts of course, if you happen to listen over

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on Apple, Apple Podcasts or Spotify, you leave a little

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rating and review that help us out. You also watch

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this if you don't just want to listen, and you

567
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can do that over at YouTube dot com slash at

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Clippers podcast. But hey, however, if you're listening, if you're watching,

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however you're consuming us, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We very much appreciate you. Thank you for listening, Adam,

571
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as you always do. We need one positive thing to

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send these Clippers folks into their week.

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Speaker 3: With dips in the season like we're seeing from the

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Clippers right now, we have lost four or five happen

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and they can help you refocus and they can help

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you get back to your identity, your foundation to what

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got you to being over five hundred. And I think

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they're gonna have a locked in attention and detail on

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the defensive end tomorrow night like we haven't seen in

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a couple of games here.

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Speaker 2: These dips are also not even close to the kind

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of dips you can catch on the show in the

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off season.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you if you guys brought some food

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insro check out the off season episodes. A little something

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special for you out there, Thank you all for hanging out.

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I'm Chuck Walkler. This is Adam Os and Will Uptyke

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and as always, let's go clickers.

