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<v Speaker 1>The Upper Room presents So you want to Stay married?

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode in this study of family life in the

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<v Speaker 1>modern home is a Child.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall Lead Them?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially written and produced for The Upper Room by Carlton E. Morse,

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<v Speaker 1>featuring Jeanette Nolan as Anne, Tom Collins as Arthur, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn Bender as Shirling.

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<v Speaker 2>When Arthur and Anne.

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<v Speaker 1>Wentworth were first married, there was grave uncertainty in their

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<v Speaker 1>minds about children. Oh yeah, someday, of course, but right

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, maybe I can explain it well. In

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, Anne and I were so much in love,

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<v Speaker 1>they just didn't seem any place in our lives for

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<v Speaker 1>another human being. On top of that, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>out of the army, and I had a queer feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that the world was all topsy turvy, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure I wanted to bring another human being into the

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<v Speaker 1>mess to face what might lie ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was money.

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<v Speaker 1>No sure, I had a job, but there just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>enough money in the panvelope every week to cover food

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<v Speaker 1>and rent and all the other little necessities, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>a few small pleasures for handing me. And then Anne

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<v Speaker 1>was so young and beautiful and carefree.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, secretly in our hearts. We must have wanted

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<v Speaker 3>our children most terribly all the time, without us quite

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<v Speaker 3>realizing it. We must have because we spent so much

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<v Speaker 3>time talking about why we shouldn't have them. If we

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<v Speaker 3>had a nickel for every hour we spent trying to

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<v Speaker 3>prove to ourselves that it wouldn't be fair to the children,

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<v Speaker 3>we'd be very wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the whole thing was taken out of our hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly think that somehow God looked down upon our

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<v Speaker 3>confusion and indecision and settle the matter for us. Not

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<v Speaker 3>that either Arthur or I were very religious at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we both had religious training as children, but

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<v Speaker 3>we'd will rather let things slip. I wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in the religious angle here because it seemed so much

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the coming of our children and what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Arthur and me and our home as our

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<v Speaker 3>family grew. For instance, the night our first little girl

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<v Speaker 3>came was the first time that Arthur and I ever

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<v Speaker 3>prayed together. I was still pretty wan and shaky when

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<v Speaker 3>they let Arthur come in to see me and Darling, Hello, Papa,

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<v Speaker 3>Darling Dardley, I'm all right, Rather I'm all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know what. I'm so thank you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>We could say a prayer, Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, our Father, which out in heaven, Howard Halloa,

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<v Speaker 1>Thy Kingdom, Come, come thy, will.

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<v Speaker 2>You do give us the stage our daily bread were

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<v Speaker 2>the coming of our daughter, Shirley.

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<v Speaker 1>We realized how silly and juvenile we'd been to everythink

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<v Speaker 1>of not having children.

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<v Speaker 2>It hadn't been a home at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It had just been a selfish, self centered place in

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<v Speaker 1>which Anne and I had been too occupied with ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>to ever think of other people.

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<v Speaker 2>We expanded, we blossomed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost as though our early married life had

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<v Speaker 1>only been the tightly closed but of a flower, whose

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<v Speaker 1>beauty and perfume unfolded and pervaded the atmosphere only after

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<v Speaker 1>we became parents. I thought Anne was beautiful before, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the role of a mother, sh the open flood

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<v Speaker 1>gates of love in my heart that I hadn't even

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<v Speaker 1>known were there. The miracle of bringing life in the

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<v Speaker 1>world together cause a strange thing to a man and woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It deepens and enriches the soul.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like deep, beautiful, moving organ music rolling down the

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<v Speaker 1>corridors of heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens every time.

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<v Speaker 1>After Shirley came Jimmy and then young Anne, and each

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<v Speaker 1>time they were singing and rejoicing and the ringing of

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<v Speaker 1>bells and Hallel Lou in our hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not forgetting the bad times either.

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<v Speaker 1>That terrible night, the doctor arrived at four o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and sat beside Jimmy's bed while the small

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<v Speaker 1>hot face burned with fever and the little body shivered

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<v Speaker 1>in the agony of a life and death fight. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't forget that night, nor will I ever forget the

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<v Speaker 1>morning when the fever broke, the battle was won, and

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<v Speaker 1>the hand cried on my shoulder in desperate relief at

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<v Speaker 1>the goodness of heaven, and say, there and it's all

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I prayed so hard, I prayed so high that it

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<v Speaker 3>was a miracle. Let's say it do. The doctor said

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<v Speaker 3>it was a miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank they Dear God for answering hands prayer.

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed that at every turn our children brought Arthur

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<v Speaker 3>and Me closer to our childhood religion. When they came,

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<v Speaker 3>we felt called upon to give thanks for them. And

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<v Speaker 3>then in their infancy, we turned toward our church for

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<v Speaker 3>their christening and baptism and early training. Somehow we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>disassociate our children from immortality and from the goodness and

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<v Speaker 3>graceciousness of a supreme being. It all seemed so much

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the great plan, something beyond our poor knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>that our home became a religious home, almost without us

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<v Speaker 3>realizing it or knowing it. The sacredness of giving life

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<v Speaker 3>gave added sacredness to our home, to the relationship between

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<v Speaker 3>Arthur and me. When we were first married and only

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<v Speaker 3>had our love for each other to tie us together,

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<v Speaker 3>I often had qualms of losing Arthur. Other women seemed

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<v Speaker 3>so much more attractive than I felt. I really felt

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<v Speaker 3>an inadequacy within myself. I felt my hold on Arthur's

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<v Speaker 3>love was so ephemeral that it might dissolve like the mist.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why you used to ask me if I

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<v Speaker 1>still loved you, kept quanting proof of my love?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I was unsure. Didn't you ever feel unsure

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<v Speaker 3>of me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>We were a couple of times, as when the boss's

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<v Speaker 1>son came out from Europe and made that big pitch

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<v Speaker 1>in your direction. As there were a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>now have butterflies of fear around my eye?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever had that feeling since Shirley was born?

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<v Speaker 2>Not once?

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<v Speaker 3>And neither have I. Because in Shirley and Jimmy and

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<v Speaker 3>baby Anne we found meaning in our marriage in proving

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<v Speaker 3>to be dependable parents. We've growd to each other that

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<v Speaker 3>we are likewise dependable helpmates.

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<v Speaker 1>I take it from this, Missus Wentworth, that you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in children in the home.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt of it, mister Wentworth. In fact, for me,

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<v Speaker 3>children are the first and importance in making a marriage

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<v Speaker 3>a success. Children are the bonds which go beyond words, vowels,

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<v Speaker 3>marriage certificates, or even the laws of man.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you talking about me?

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<v Speaker 3>Mama, Shirley? Where did you pop from?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>I heard you and Daddy talking in here? So I

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<v Speaker 4>came in?

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<v Speaker 2>What no kiss for your father?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Well moist but otherwise satisfactory.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh look, what's the matter with my skates?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was an accident.

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<v Speaker 4>It's broke.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the wheel, Yes, darling, Jimmy was wearing them,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're my skates.

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<v Speaker 2>He's broke. Well, you can forgive your brother for an accident, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, I'm not gonna forgive him forever and ever he

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<v Speaker 4>broke my skate. Sureley, you mustn't say that, not ever

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<v Speaker 4>as well as he left.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't mean that, Shirley.

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<v Speaker 4>But how can you forgive anybody for breaking your skates?

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the only skates I've got? And I hate him?

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<v Speaker 2>What come? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Every evening of the close of our little devotions, here

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<v Speaker 1>at home we say the Lord's prayer?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you say it?

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<v Speaker 4>Look at my skates, Daddy?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know? Can you say the Lord's prayer?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Say it for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Please, our Father, which are in heaven, Hello, be thy name,

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<v Speaker 4>Thy Kingdom. Come. Thy will be done on earth as

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<v Speaker 4>it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread,

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<v Speaker 4>Give us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass

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<v Speaker 4>against us.

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<v Speaker 2>We do just not wait, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, isn't it, Mommy?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right?

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<v Speaker 2>But say that last again? Give us this day our

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<v Speaker 2>daily bread? Then?

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<v Speaker 4>What forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who

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<v Speaker 4>trespass against us?

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<v Speaker 2>Um? Huh? Do you realize what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm asking God to forgive me for what I do wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You're asking more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I am well aren't you forgive us the wrong we

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<v Speaker 1>do as we forgive others.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do wrong against us. Don't you see?

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<v Speaker 1>Surely you've got to forgive Jimmy, because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can't ask God to forgive you. You won't even

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<v Speaker 1>have the right to say the Lord's prayer with us

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<v Speaker 1>while we if you hold enmity in your heart against.

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<v Speaker 2>Your brother, but he broke my skate, well.

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<v Speaker 1>And didn't you get into my shaving cabinet the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and break my razor?

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<v Speaker 2>Hm?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And didn't you tell me you were sorry? And didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I forgive you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And weren't we both happier? I know I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgave you, and I know your mother forgave me

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<v Speaker 1>for the forgetting to bring groceries home from downtown. And Hm,

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<v Speaker 1>we forgave the neighbors were running their car across our lawn,

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<v Speaker 1>and the neighbors forgave us for keeping them up late

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<v Speaker 1>last week because our radio was on too loud, And

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<v Speaker 1>it goes on and on all our lives. Were forgiving

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<v Speaker 1>other people and they're forgiving us because we're all human beings,

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<v Speaker 1>and human beings always seen to be getting into trouble

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<v Speaker 1>where they need somebody to understand and forgive me.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, darling, take this handka jam Now, Jimmy's very sorry

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<v Speaker 3>and the skates can be fixed.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I didn't know the Lord's prayer meant that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then you've learned something rather wonderful, haven't you. Now

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<v Speaker 3>You know that we can't even ask for forgiveness for

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves when we refuse to give it to others. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's so important it may make a difference in your

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<v Speaker 3>whole life.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't hate Jimmy, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you don't, So he's out in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you go tell him?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? I'd even kiss him when he.

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<v Speaker 3>Hate me.

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<v Speaker 2>After.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a wise thoughtful way of handling that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sold myself an idea while I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Shirley. You did what children are good for people

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<v Speaker 1>and get down to fundamentals with them. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>re state fundamental truths over and over, and first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they begin to seep into your own thick skull.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as I was talking to Shirley about forgiveness, I

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<v Speaker 1>just remembered something that's been happening down at the office. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the salesman's been getting in my hair, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been building up a grudge I dislike for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I see m.

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<v Speaker 1>It just occurred to me that I could probably do

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<v Speaker 1>a little forgiving myself. I hadn't thought of myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>just that light before.

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<v Speaker 3>Children are in education, they say, well.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, truly, education and the fundamentals of living. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't train a child properly without becoming a better person yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And better people make better marriages. And Darling, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we're living, one of the better marriages.

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<v Speaker 1>If the family ties in your home are uncertain and

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<v Speaker 1>giving way, family worship will help to strengthen them. Worship

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<v Speaker 1>in the church of your choice, and have daily devotions

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<v Speaker 1>in the home. The church and the home are the

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<v Speaker 1>basic rocks upon which the moral structure of this nation

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<v Speaker 1>is built. They should be and must be, one united foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask your pastor for devotional helps or send a postcard

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<v Speaker 1>to the Upper Room Nashville, Tennessee your announcer Russell Cross
