Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to That Not Metal. We are your
Speaker 1: weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and this is an
Speaker 1: addition here every Thriday with Hyperblasts, our news release round
Speaker 1: up show where we let you know what has been
Speaker 1: going on in what has turned out to be a
Speaker 1: I don't know, a particularly divisive week. Some of the
Speaker 1: negative news stories very much, I don't know, stealing some
Speaker 1: of the limelight away from some of the more positive
Speaker 1: stuff we might have to talk about. It's been kind
Speaker 1: of a stupid week, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's been a stupid week, But also it sort of
Speaker 2: exists in areas that I don't know about, So a
Speaker 2: lot of this is gonna be telling me what's been
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, well, if that's the dynamic we're going for
Speaker 1: between us. My name is Perenhesh. The person I will
Speaker 1: be informing of the week's catastrophes and going on. You
Speaker 1: can hear there is mister Mark Sanderson. How are you doing, Mark?
Speaker 1: How has your time being haven't been? I think the
Speaker 1: last time we did something together was when we were
Speaker 1: finishing up our Corn special a few weeks ago. You're
Speaker 1: still getting your scatting.
Speaker 2: In genuinely right, whenever we finish one of these specials,
Speaker 2: I will go like, Okay, well I'm not listening to
Speaker 2: w Weezer for a year, I'm not listening to you know,
Speaker 2: I like this on Fire for a little while whatever.
Speaker 2: I've genuinely listened to The Nothing and The Path of
Speaker 2: Totality multiple times.
Speaker 1: Since I would expect nothing Less to be honest.
Speaker 2: Like I say, they're just one of those bands that
Speaker 2: are always in my life. So I'm not ready to
Speaker 2: let go yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Well, you know, we might touch on
Speaker 1: some more of what's been going on the Patron a
Speaker 1: little bit later, but before we get into the news.
Speaker 1: I've also had a pretty pretty fun week. I went
Speaker 1: along to a event I was very very curious about,
Speaker 1: very very happy to be able to tag along and attend.
Speaker 1: Last weekend, I went to Opeth's gig at the Peace
Speaker 1: Hall in Halifax, which that venue, I guess is I
Speaker 1: hadn't heard of it until like a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I think Corn maybe played there when around the time
Speaker 1: they were doing that Gunnersbury Park show beyond on the
Speaker 1: subject of Corn, but it seems like more and more
Speaker 1: of our lot have been booked to play there. It's
Speaker 1: where Turnstile are playing in a few weeks, which might
Speaker 1: be mad. It is where jimmyet World are doing one
Speaker 1: of their twenty fifth anniversary Bleed American shows. But the show,
Speaker 1: the show, and the bill, I suppose that really caught
Speaker 1: my eye from this bunch was Opeth there and this
Speaker 1: venue in Halifax, So Halifax in West Yorkshire. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, Like I said, this place is started to
Speaker 1: book more and more. I mean it showed from across,
Speaker 1: like you know, all sorts of genres and stuff, but
Speaker 1: particularly that you know a handful of like T and
Speaker 1: N Universe bands. And I don't know how long this
Speaker 1: place has been, you know, accommodating our lot, you know,
Speaker 1: our stinky, greedy lot, so to speak. But it was
Speaker 1: very very cool to go along and see this Opeth
Speaker 1: build there. They were supported by Paradise Lost and Catatonia,
Speaker 1: so all around that is like a perfect you know,
Speaker 1: if you are a fan of kind of romantic leaning
Speaker 1: European metal from the mid to late nineties and early
Speaker 1: two thousands, that is a completely perfect package, right, And
Speaker 1: I was thinking about just the kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: incestuous connections between those three bands where you might look
Speaker 1: at it on you know, paper musically and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good fit. But when you think about it
Speaker 1: more more deeply than that, in terms of the law,
Speaker 1: Opeth and Catatonia go like way back together, to the
Speaker 1: point that, weirdly, this show fell on the thirtieth anniversary
Speaker 1: to the day of Catatonia's album Brave Murder Day, which
Speaker 1: has growled vocals on it by Michael Ackafel of Opeth,
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, if there's any day, any show
Speaker 1: where you should bust something like that out, it will
Speaker 1: be today, And cowardly they did not do that, so
Speaker 1: that will never happen. But just Ago by chance says
Speaker 1: that they're playing together on the thirtieth anniversary of you know,
Speaker 1: something like that. As part of their shared history together,
Speaker 1: there is the fact that Nick Holmes from Paradise Loss,
Speaker 1: of course, replaced Michael Lackafel from Opeth in Blood buff
Speaker 1: a band which also, by the way, features several Catatonia members.
Speaker 1: Opeth's current you know newer drummer Valterie they poached him
Speaker 1: from Paradise Lost, where he was playing immediately beforehand, and
Speaker 1: there was a point in the Paradise Loss set actually
Speaker 1: when they played the song Ghosts from the Obsidian album,
Speaker 1: which he recorded with them, and he came out and like,
Speaker 1: you know, reassumed his his drum seat for them. There's
Speaker 1: just all these like you know, individual connections and incredible
Speaker 1: sort of ven diagram of you know, fandom and stuff
Speaker 1: like that between these three bands. So it was like
Speaker 1: a really top to bottom perfect bill. I wanted to
Speaker 1: mention just a little bit again if people are curious
Speaker 1: about the location Piece Hall in Halifax, which basically it's
Speaker 1: like it's an open air show venue, but it's in
Speaker 1: it's like a square, so you go into like this
Speaker 1: kind of old Victorian looking building, but then when you enter,
Speaker 1: you go into like an open air square in the
Speaker 1: middle of it that is obviously then contained by the
Speaker 1: walls of it, which is really like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just prestigious looking right when you're in there. So it's
Speaker 1: why I think, particularly as well seeing bands like Opeth
Speaker 1: and Paradise Lost there, as much as might be cool
Speaker 1: to see corn or Turnstile there or whatever, I think
Speaker 1: there's a particular you know, setting that worked well with
Speaker 1: bands who look like they drink wine. Essentially, in the
Speaker 1: case of someone like like Opeth and literally like right
Speaker 1: behind the stage on the visible towering above it from
Speaker 1: the other side of the square. You know, Walls is
Speaker 1: an old like Gothic you know, Yorkshire church spire. So
Speaker 1: watching a band like Paradise Lost with that, you know,
Speaker 1: incredible again Yorkshire Gothic doom sensibility, and there's literally a
Speaker 1: giant church spire towering over from the other side of
Speaker 1: the stage. But it just it visually, it all worked together.
Speaker 1: It was really really great, and particularly when it got
Speaker 1: to the nighttime when Opeth were playing and the like,
Speaker 1: the lighting from the stage was reflecting up and lighting
Speaker 1: up this church tower, so like you'd have like this
Speaker 1: where particularly when they were doing some of the heavier songs,
Speaker 1: you had this like harsh red lighting and you've got
Speaker 1: this fucking church that's beamed up all red like it
Speaker 1: looked really evil and super fucking cool. So just the again,
Speaker 1: the vibe of the location I think is one of
Speaker 1: the more I don't know, fancy and special sort of
Speaker 1: settings that I've seen a metal show at in the
Speaker 1: UK as of late. The only puncturing of all of
Speaker 1: this is the fact that the event was sponsored by
Speaker 1: tk Max, which meant you had TK max shop Brown
Speaker 1: La brendickt which if if you don't know, if you're
Speaker 1: outside of the UK, it's like a high street you know,
Speaker 1: shopping brand here in the UK. But I put you know,
Speaker 1: several videos from this up on my Instagram story, and
Speaker 1: almost every single reply I got from someone was like,
Speaker 1: why are opes sponsored by tk Max? You've got to
Speaker 1: get rid of that, which did kill the vibe a
Speaker 1: little bit, but it was really really great. So Catatonia.
Speaker 1: First of all, we missed about half of Catatonia because
Speaker 1: while Halifax is only a kind of small town, finding
Speaker 1: a place to park there weirdly when they had loads
Speaker 1: of roadworks and stuff was kind of a nightmare. We
Speaker 1: did a lap of this town several times over trying
Speaker 1: to actually stop and get out. But you could hear
Speaker 1: because it's an open air venue, you could hear Catatonia
Speaker 1: from from outside it, right, And I think they played
Speaker 1: a couple of dead End King songs earlier on in
Speaker 1: the part that we missed, walked in when they were
Speaker 1: wrapping up one of those, and then, like I said,
Speaker 1: didn't do any of their you know, more Opeth aligned
Speaker 1: in their history, older stuff, but in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: the more recent material, right, I still love that record
Speaker 1: Skyvoid of Stars from a few years ago, even if
Speaker 1: the most recent one from last year isn't isn't as good.
Speaker 1: It's nice to see Catatonia again represented as part of
Speaker 1: all that paradise. Last very much took the occasion into hand. Weirdly,
Speaker 1: they're actually from Halifax, like that is officially their hometown,
Speaker 1: but apparently, and I don't know how this works, they
Speaker 1: said this is their first ever show in Halifax, which
Speaker 1: is mental to me because I would have imagined, like
Speaker 1: in you know, nineteen ninety before their first album came out,
Speaker 1: would imagine they would have played a pub show or
Speaker 1: something in their literal hometown. But apparently they just always
Speaker 1: played like Bradford or Leeds in the you know, Yorkshire vicinity,
Speaker 1: as I guess there must have been more of a
Speaker 1: music scene there. But they were like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the first time we've ever played like the actual town
Speaker 1: where we're from, which is really fucking bizarre. Apparently was
Speaker 1: Yorkshire Day as well, August the first, which I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was Yorkshire Day, but they very much again
Speaker 1: you know, rile people up with that and took that
Speaker 1: into account paralys last I've just I love that band
Speaker 1: so much and give them, you know, fifteen minute hour
Speaker 1: long set list or whatever, and they will switch it up.
Speaker 1: It's not just they rely on the same stuff all
Speaker 1: the time, but they can pack that with just phenomenal
Speaker 1: tunes from all across the set list and all across
Speaker 1: their you know eras even and the song from the
Speaker 1: last record came out last year, which we didn't review,
Speaker 1: and I didn't like it quite as much as I
Speaker 1: think Obsidian the record Pride that which I mentioned is
Speaker 1: like a real stand up for them. But the last
Speaker 1: paras oft time is still great, and the couple of
Speaker 1: tunes they played off that very much again fit the
Speaker 1: you know, they sat landed really well in this kind
Speaker 1: of setting. But then you've got through to like they
Speaker 1: did the small Town Boy cover, which is an absolute
Speaker 1: ripper that really works much better than the Lord of
Speaker 1: the Lost version of that, like I mentioned, doing Ghosts
Speaker 1: the VALTERI coming out and reassuming his drum stool, and
Speaker 1: this is even without Bizarrely, they did not play either
Speaker 1: Enchantment from Draconian Times or the song that they end
Speaker 1: nearly every one of their sets ever with apart from
Speaker 1: this one seemingly sageous words from from one Second, which
Speaker 1: is like the guaranteed paras of Set closer, and they
Speaker 1: didn't do either of those. Apparais lost. Set that doesn't
Speaker 1: end with either enchantment or Sage's words should be wrong
Speaker 1: and should be weird, but they still managed to pack
Speaker 1: enough kind of firepower and obviously the you know, incredibly
Speaker 1: infectious charm of Nick Holmes and all this stuff, they
Speaker 1: still you know, fit it perfectly well. Opeth were brilliant
Speaker 1: as they're particularly I think their recent kind of run
Speaker 1: of form since around the last album they have been
Speaker 1: particularly fantastic. The last time I saw them was when
Speaker 1: they headlined Bloodstock a couple of years ago, but that
Speaker 1: was right before the last album came out, So this
Speaker 1: was my first time seeing them with again the newer
Speaker 1: material from that really really fun and strange and dynamic,
Speaker 1: ambitious last Opeth album. And so they open with obviously
Speaker 1: that's got all those weird titles where they're all like,
Speaker 1: you know, chapter or paragraph or whatever it is. But
Speaker 1: the first single they released where we all heard that
Speaker 1: incredible Michael Growl coming back in that was the song
Speaker 1: they opened with, and that was really fucking cool. They
Speaker 1: also played one of the very so I think it's
Speaker 1: paragraph seven, one of the very strange proggy off kilter
Speaker 1: ones towards the end of that record, and it's and
Speaker 1: that's one of the songs where it's got the kind
Speaker 1: of like narration from Ian Anderson from Jethro Hotel on
Speaker 1: the record, and they were like, we've got you know,
Speaker 1: Ian and he's not here. We've got Ian Anderson's like,
Speaker 1: you know, narration part playing on the track. But we
Speaker 1: as a band, we do not play to a click track,
Speaker 1: so we sometimes you know, slow slow down, we might
Speaker 1: speed up whatever. So it was like Ian Anderson, he's
Speaker 1: going to be in the exact same place because it's
Speaker 1: you know, a sampled thing. We might be out of time,
Speaker 1: who knows. And then they played it and they were
Speaker 1: in time. He was in time, but the VT with
Speaker 1: his like lyrics that as they were coming up was
Speaker 1: out of time. And I'm like, that's the thing that
Speaker 1: even not counted for Surely that should be the thing.
Speaker 1: It should be in the same place every single time,
Speaker 1: but I guess not. But that was really fun. Otherwise, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, set list wise Opeth because they are a
Speaker 1: band who play very long songs, right, and the set
Speaker 1: was like something like an hour and forty. I often
Speaker 1: say that Opeth, like if we get that questions like
Speaker 1: what's the dream evening with three hour set type band?
Speaker 1: My stock answer is always always Opeth because there are
Speaker 1: so many songs from the catalog that you want to
Speaker 1: see that they don't have room for. Because each of
Speaker 1: their like they're playing Deliverance every single night. That's ten
Speaker 1: minutes of the set at least, you know, to take
Speaker 1: it up, and then you throw in like here's your
Speaker 1: stock Blackwater part song, here's your stock you know ghost
Speaker 1: every song, whether that be Ghost of Petition or Grand
Speaker 1: Conjuration whatever like, it fills up very very quickly. But
Speaker 1: the flip side of that is if you go to
Speaker 1: see Opeth a lot over the years, they they are
Speaker 1: pretty good at switching things out. So I was looking
Speaker 1: at all the setlists from the various times I have
Speaker 1: seen Opeth, and every single time I've seen Opeth, apart
Speaker 1: from when they've done like a you know, a forty
Speaker 1: minute slot download something like that, every time I've seen
Speaker 1: a full length opes set, they have played one song
Speaker 1: from the Watershed album. They've Also, every single time played
Speaker 1: one song from the Heritage album, but every single time
Speaker 1: that one song has been a different one, so you
Speaker 1: kind of it also means that, like, if you miss
Speaker 1: the time they're playing your favorite song, they might never
Speaker 1: play that song again because they'll move on to the
Speaker 1: next one. So you kind of have to, you know,
Speaker 1: just just catch the ones that you can do. But
Speaker 1: for example, with Watershed, I've seen them do you know
Speaker 1: the Lotus Eater, I've seen them do Air Apparent, all
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. This time from Watershed, they ended
Speaker 1: the main set with hex Omaga Whoa, which is a
Speaker 1: song I had not seen them doing, and that was
Speaker 1: really fucking fantastic. Similarly, on the Heritage front, this was
Speaker 1: the first time, weirdly, I've ever seen them play the
Speaker 1: Devil's Orchard, which the single from Heritage back when it
Speaker 1: came out. But it turns out I've seen them play
Speaker 1: like various other songs from that record, like hack Process
Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff, but this is the
Speaker 1: first time i'd see them do what it's probably the
Speaker 1: catcher song on that record with that be God is Dead,
Speaker 1: you know, vocal Lion that that has, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know again. Another one to add to the repertoire.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the you know, swapping in and out of
Speaker 1: the whatever big ghost reverie song you're gonna get this time,
Speaker 1: as it was a bloss a couple years, I've kind
Speaker 1: of lent more towards this from recently was the Grand
Speaker 1: Conjuration over Ghost Position, and I fucking love the Grand
Speaker 1: Conjuration so much. It's when the keyboard player starts playing
Speaker 1: evil congers, just like full on like whacking on those things,
Speaker 1: but in an evil necromantic way, and that was sick
Speaker 1: as hell. The real like event of this for me,
Speaker 1: As I mentioned about, if you missed the times that
Speaker 1: they are playing your favorite songs, you might well never
Speaker 1: see them again. My Myopeth album Forever and Ever Ever
Speaker 1: Will Be is the album's still Life, the predecessor to the,
Speaker 1: of course, the iconic, much more popular Blackwater Park. And
Speaker 1: every time that they have played a still Life song
Speaker 1: in the set, it has been an occasion that I
Speaker 1: have missed. I had never seen them. This is my
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a fan of Opeth for about
Speaker 1: like sixteen years, about twenty ten. You know, when I
Speaker 1: really got into the shit was when I got into them,
Speaker 1: immediately fell for that record. Never in all the years
Speaker 1: of sing since then have I actually seen them play
Speaker 1: a song from it. They were playing them more a
Speaker 1: few years ago, but they only played like a London
Speaker 1: date and I didn't go to it. Finally I got
Speaker 1: to see the perform a song from that and it
Speaker 1: was like, probably a song I would put in the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack of that particular record, But the
Speaker 1: song Godheads Lament, which is just brilliant track two on
Speaker 1: that record. It starts with one of their most like infernal,
Speaker 1: like morbid angel riffs, like so sick, but in the
Speaker 1: middle of it it turns into this like beautiful, melodic,
Speaker 1: kind of prog folk song with these like really wonderful
Speaker 1: refrain and they dropped like three songs into the set
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's me, Like, that's the thing
Speaker 1: that I again, the big thing that I was ticking
Speaker 1: off as part of this. It was really fucking great.
Speaker 1: And then I looked because I guess then there must
Speaker 1: been a certain curfew at the Halifax Piece Hall show
Speaker 1: or something. They played Dublin the night after, because they've
Speaker 1: been doing like a full European tour and as well
Speaker 1: as everything that we got. They added into that set
Speaker 1: Demon of the Fall, which is a ripper, another song
Speaker 1: from the Last World and Testament album, the Paragigh three,
Speaker 1: and then their cover of Napalm Death You Suffer three
Speaker 1: times in a row. And I can't believe genuinely surprised
Speaker 1: they did not find time for that one in particular set.
Speaker 2: And it takes up so much time. You know, it's
Speaker 2: an opus.
Speaker 1: It generally does the thing because it takes several minutes
Speaker 1: for him to introduce it the content, so I can't
Speaker 1: actually understand that. But yeah, really a wonderful time sin Opeth.
Speaker 1: I mean they're always great, particularly and that the setting
Speaker 1: in the venue if people are curious about it because
Speaker 1: they might be headed to the Turnstile show or the
Speaker 1: gb World show or whatever it might be. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think I caught the package that most musically fit
Speaker 1: in with the atmosphere and the setting of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I always liked Paradis Lost. I always love seeing those
Speaker 1: Yorkshire doom bands in Yorkshire at somewhere, particularly you know,
Speaker 1: beautiful looking because just that again the kind of the
Speaker 1: Gothic drama of that kind of music, whether it's a
Speaker 1: you know, a my Dying Bride or paras Lot or
Speaker 1: something like that always works really well, and obviously in
Speaker 1: their hometown, but Opeth were were spectac through as well,
Speaker 1: so that was really, really, really good. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: definitely if there is a show coming up at that
Speaker 1: Halifax Piece Hall thing and you're able to you know,
Speaker 1: get up there and make it or whatever or that
Speaker 1: all down there, I would definitely recommend the again, the
Speaker 1: vibe and the place. So that was the best thing
Speaker 1: that happened to me this week. We are going to
Speaker 1: start off the news by talking about the worst parts
Speaker 1: of the week, and the annoying thing for us is
Speaker 1: they're not even bad in a straightforward way. They're bad
Speaker 1: in a kind of confusing way, which I guess particularly
Speaker 1: true for our first story, which I am really annoyed
Speaker 1: that we are here like almost a week after this
Speaker 1: has you know, gotten out there, and we've still not
Speaker 1: actually got it like confirmed. We've not got an official
Speaker 1: statement or anything on the matter. But earlier in the
Speaker 1: week it was sort of like leak reported by fucking
Speaker 1: TMZ of all places that apparently Sid Wilson. Of course,
Speaker 1: the turntablist of Slipknot has been kicked out of the
Speaker 1: band and this has, like I said, it leaked there
Speaker 1: through let's generously call them unofficial channels, and the rest
Speaker 1: of the week has been trying to sort of, I
Speaker 1: don't know, trace the fallout and the evidence of this.
Speaker 1: So what this has kind of been framed as, you know,
Speaker 1: if this is true and if this is kind of
Speaker 1: you know, the way these events have gotten out there
Speaker 1: is supposedly Slipknot were gearing up to make like an
Speaker 1: official statement and then somehow this got out ahead of
Speaker 1: time and they've kind of you know, panicked and not
Speaker 1: actually come forward with whatever it might be. Again, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of you know, word of mouth version of
Speaker 1: events that's out there. We've since had like more you know,
Speaker 1: dramatic wadings in from the likes of Kelly Osborne, who
Speaker 1: until recently was the partner of Sid Wilson, and she
Speaker 1: put up a whole like series of Instagram stories basically
Speaker 1: like blasting Sid Wilson about like childcare payments and all
Speaker 1: this kind of like again full on fucking culture vulture
Speaker 1: like drama, what like I didn't give a shit about
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like you know, that's that's their business to
Speaker 1: sort out wherever it may be, it's got no relevance
Speaker 1: to what we're actually trying to figure out right now.
Speaker 1: Jim Root of slip knot once this story kind of
Speaker 1: you know, was out there, he put out an Instagram
Speaker 1: story basically being very evasive, saying like, hey, don't believe
Speaker 1: what you read. But that's not expressly a denial of
Speaker 1: this story. It's just sort of like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: a dissipation of again the way it's the channel it's
Speaker 1: gotten out, so we don't know right now, how like,
Speaker 1: to what extent this is confirmed. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I was hoping by the time we got here on
Speaker 1: you know, Thursday to chat about this, that we would
Speaker 1: have something official, and annoyingly we don't. So we've only
Speaker 1: got this again, very annoying manner of kind of reporting
Speaker 1: of this stuff to talk about. For my part right
Speaker 1: now here before it's been confirmed, I would be inclined
Speaker 1: to believe this. I think it might be a there's
Speaker 1: a no smoke without fire situation. And again the manner
Speaker 1: which has gotten out has kind of sort of you know,
Speaker 1: scattered the birds. But it could well be true. We
Speaker 1: can't talk about it again, super rigidly because of the
Speaker 1: lack of information or anything about this. But if it
Speaker 1: is true that Sid Wilson is no longer in Sleipnot
Speaker 1: and has become the latest member to be ousted from
Speaker 1: that band, my my genuine first reaction to hearing this news,
Speaker 1: and this might be quite a revealing on my part,
Speaker 1: but my genuine first reaction was just, for fuck's sake,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much I care anymore. And that
Speaker 1: is very frustrating to me because I, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: talk in a second about I guess where my current
Speaker 1: sort of relationship with Slipnot has been. But it just
Speaker 1: feels like another you know, another domino, another you know,
Speaker 1: straw on the camel's back, so to speak, and maybe
Speaker 1: you only get so many of those before you just
Speaker 1: kind of mentally check out a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where certainly a great deal of the Slipnot
Speaker 1: fan base is at at the moment. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I My gut reaction is similar. It's like, how
Speaker 2: much can I possibly care about this? Like this keeps
Speaker 2: happening to Slipknot And I guess, on one hand, you know,
Speaker 2: if you have that many bands members, it is going
Speaker 2: to be harder to please everyone. So I guess it
Speaker 2: makes sense, and it makes it admirable that they did
Speaker 2: go like ten years without this like revolving door thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't fire anyone until of the classic nine.
Speaker 1: They didn't fire anyone until Joey Jordison, Yeah, in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: So that's like a fifteen years or so of maintaining
Speaker 1: nine people, which is fairly good going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know, I was thinking, like, Slipnot
Speaker 2: are one of our big bands. When they do release
Speaker 2: a new record, we're all going to be so excited.
Speaker 2: And if Sid is leaving, this is so superficial And
Speaker 2: this is so like I don't know, nerdy, but like,
Speaker 2: visually slip Not as more than music, right. We love
Speaker 2: the mask unveiling, we love the unveiling of a new era,
Speaker 2: but more and more with band members leaving and stuff,
Speaker 2: there's only a select few number of members who's whose
Speaker 2: masks can actually look different.
Speaker 1: I mean Sid Wilson in terms of actual behavior on stage,
Speaker 1: like not just the mask, but in terms of his
Speaker 1: like demeanor. I think it is arguably like he's there
Speaker 1: with Clown and Corey basically as being like the the
Speaker 1: most focal point of the chaos of a Slipnot live shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's jumping in the crowd, he's like hitting clown
Speaker 2: over the head whatever. Like visually he's so important and
Speaker 2: he's one of those sort of like side character Slipnot
Speaker 2: members who you can actually hear in their music. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but even just like the idea of like, Okay, here's
Speaker 2: the new the new masks. Sid always has a different
Speaker 2: mask and they're always pretty cool, like there's only so
Speaker 2: many ways of Jim Roots mask is gonna look, you know,
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's it's hard. I feel like
Speaker 2: in general in metal we're sort of down on slip
Speaker 2: Not right now. I saw someone tweet like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: there's another mass band really big, so slip Not just
Speaker 2: kick out another member whenever they want attention, and that
Speaker 2: really made me laugh. But I don't know we are.
Speaker 2: We were disappointed when Chris in his big nose left,
Speaker 2: but we all love Tortilla man, So who knows. They'll
Speaker 2: come back for some new guy called like Lasagna dude,
Speaker 2: and come back. They'll reallease something in good favor. We'll
Speaker 2: be back with them. We're just in a weird you know,
Speaker 2: a weird stage with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm I'm not so sure about that because
Speaker 1: the last album was The End so Far, which was
Speaker 1: not popular, right, but it's a good album. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I think so. But I again, I guess I just
Speaker 1: got back to, like I said, my my recent relationship
Speaker 1: slip Not because they there are many people who kind
Speaker 1: of you know, adopt the Slipnot died in X year,
Speaker 1: whether it be as soon as they released Volume three,
Speaker 1: whether it be as soon as Paul died or as
Speaker 1: soon as Joey was out of the band, or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you might say. My position has been more more
Speaker 1: forgiving in that the last like genuinely great Slipnot album
Speaker 1: is still within the last ten years, right, and then
Speaker 1: the End so Far. I mean I was having this
Speaker 1: conversation at the weekend with someone, it's not like one
Speaker 1: of the best Slipknot albums, right. That was never the argument.
Speaker 1: But I have genuine I never understood the kind of
Speaker 1: vitriol that was aimed towards it by a lot of
Speaker 1: people because it was just Slipnot off the back of
Speaker 1: a really great album, and we are not your kind
Speaker 1: kind of following up by doing some you know, kind
Speaker 1: of more just sort of left field, experimenting, exploratory kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and for the most part, I thought it was,
Speaker 1: you know, good and respectable. So I never understood people like,
Speaker 1: you know, getting really upset about that album and asked
Speaker 1: acting like Slipknot had released like an absolute turkey. I
Speaker 1: genuinely thought that was that was strange, but it did
Speaker 1: feel like after what was more a more culturally low
Speaker 1: key album, let's say, in the end, so far, it
Speaker 1: does feel like Slipknot they need a win sometime soon.
Speaker 1: And I know that they got like a little bit
Speaker 1: of favor back when they brought in Iloks Grande for example,
Speaker 1: and then people were saying, oh the live shows were
Speaker 1: really sick with with him and the band. But like
Speaker 1: I said, there's this kind of chain of events, this
Speaker 1: dominoes of tragically losing Paul, but then because of their
Speaker 1: own decisions or however it went down, you know, still
Speaker 1: up to debate for this day. But you know, the
Speaker 1: first person they fired, like I said, being being Joey
Speaker 1: and then eventually losing in quite shocking manner, Jay Weinberg,
Speaker 1: his replacement, who everybody kind of seemed pretty pretty happy with,
Speaker 1: pretty down with. As you said, they lost Chris, who
Speaker 1: was pretty you know, as you say, recognizable in teg
Speaker 1: roalkupant of the live show. Craig Jones, you might remember,
Speaker 1: you know, stepped back from the band as well. So
Speaker 1: this is like the you know, fifth or second member
Speaker 1: that Sleptnot have lost in the past kind of decade
Speaker 1: or so. And the only people now who are you know,
Speaker 1: from the debut album on have been consistently in Slipknot
Speaker 1: are at this stage if this is true, Corey, Clown
Speaker 1: Gym and Mick, which is four out of the nine.
Speaker 1: And I know that a four piece is like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's four people. That's as many as any other normal band, right,
Speaker 1: but that is over half now of like if you
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that people like to do is
Speaker 1: they take the All Hope Is Gone album cover because
Speaker 1: they're all on it, right, And slowly you are seeing
Speaker 1: more and more people removed out of that cornfield. And
Speaker 1: now that cornfield is looking pretty empty, right because there's
Speaker 1: only four dudes who are left out of it. And
Speaker 1: I just think while I I was a defender of
Speaker 1: the last record, not in terms of being like a
Speaker 1: catalog standout or anything like that, but just in terms
Speaker 1: of being like a valid piece of you know, a
Speaker 1: valid musical addition to what they were doing. I was
Speaker 1: a defender of the last record, but that that the
Speaker 1: reaction that had followed by and surrounded by these continuous
Speaker 1: blows to their like public image. It just feels like
Speaker 1: there are bad vibes around slept Not right now. And
Speaker 1: I'm not immune to that again as someone who has
Speaker 1: given them a lot of grace musically, and of course
Speaker 1: I will continue to either be interested when they release
Speaker 1: new stuff or whatever, but it does feel like those
Speaker 1: bad vibes are overshadowing the rest of what people can
Speaker 1: connect with in that band, which in Sleptman's case is huge, right.
Speaker 1: They have such a huge place in people's heart, particularly
Speaker 1: the classic you know, incarnation of them, and something like this,
Speaker 1: I just wonder maybe Sliptnant need to just go away
Speaker 1: for a bit.
Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah. Also I've just remembered this as well. There
Speaker 2: was sort of a wheel spinning element after the end
Speaker 2: so far where they were like new music after this
Speaker 2: coming extremely soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, recording it's all been weird, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the least the outside your window thing, and I've
Speaker 2: seen no one talk about that like I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe they should go away. But with slip Nod, there's
Speaker 2: always this thing of them going, we've only got five
Speaker 2: more years left in us, so we're just gonna do it,
Speaker 2: and we'll record one more thing and then we'll burst,
Speaker 2: we'll flame out. But then that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2: They're saying that it's like you could have just taken
Speaker 2: that time off. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Obviously, right now, with it being so just evasive in
Speaker 1: terms of the information that's out there and the fact
Speaker 1: that we just don't know them right, we can't speak
Speaker 1: to any of the personal factors that are at play
Speaker 1: with for example, this Sid Wilson announcement, who's fallen out
Speaker 1: with who? Whatever the fuck it may be, how he
Speaker 1: may have behaved, we don't know. But I think obviously
Speaker 1: they will miss him, both musically and in the live show.
Speaker 1: And I think most importantly just in people's personal connection
Speaker 1: to the band. I think that Sid Wilson again shy
Speaker 1: of like Clown or Cory, and certainly, as the latest
Speaker 1: of many many occasions where we've been here discussing something
Speaker 1: like this going on, people's you know, connection from the
Speaker 1: heart are being just sort of slowly severed from the band,
Speaker 1: which is kind of sad to see and a guess
Speaker 1: that we just have to wait and see what more
Speaker 1: comes out of it. But there you go. That's the alleged,
Speaker 1: you know, reported slipknot News. And then our second fucking
Speaker 1: piece of absolute bullshit of the week, as we flip
Speaker 1: back into the worlds of hardcore, as we have done
Speaker 1: many many times of late in the news Marauder. This week,
Speaker 1: the legendary New York hardcore band have found themselves in
Speaker 1: a lot of hot water. They've been playing shows in
Speaker 1: the UK this week and it's all kind of blown
Speaker 1: up in their face because supposedly they're vocalist Jorge Rosado
Speaker 1: was spouting a whole bunch of slurs on stage at
Speaker 1: one of these shows, and people attended the show went, hey,
Speaker 1: that's not cool, why are you doing that? And somehow
Speaker 1: this has sort of led to a chain of events
Speaker 1: where people have gone back through his social media and
Speaker 1: dug up reposts of bunch of you know, hatefully transphobic,
Speaker 1: homophobic whatever material that he'd been you know, kind of
Speaker 1: engaging with and putting out there. I must admit I
Speaker 1: have not personally seen these reposts. I didn't really know
Speaker 1: where to go look and find them, but I am
Speaker 1: sure that they are there. You know, other members of
Speaker 1: the T and M team have assured me of this,
Speaker 1: but it has also then spilled into a response video
Speaker 1: that he put on Instagram, which has also been you know,
Speaker 1: I've got the transcription here in front of me. And
Speaker 1: if it was just said a few slurs on stage
Speaker 1: repost some transphobic stuff, that would be enough to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: for fuck's sake, you know, why are you behaving in
Speaker 1: this way? That's not cool. The the crash out that
Speaker 1: has followed is one of the most unhinged things I've
Speaker 1: ever read. It's not funny what he's been again, Like
Speaker 1: what he's been putting out there is the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff where we go, yeah, we try to stap this
Speaker 1: out and put our foot down about this. But he
Speaker 1: had with his response video, He's immediate you've seen it happen.
Speaker 1: He's immediately turned himself into a punchline and something of
Speaker 1: a meme in the hardcore world, because what the fuck
Speaker 1: are you on about? In this like several minutes long,
Speaker 1: demented rant where he comes out with sentences I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would expected of like it from someone I
Speaker 1: guess I would have just naively looked at and previously
Speaker 1: thought was sane. It's a hell of a turnaround in
Speaker 1: the public eye, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean hardcore you usually assume that the
Speaker 2: guys in it at least are trying to be decent, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, it's some of the old
Speaker 1: head crowd do have a that there is a problem
Speaker 1: amongst this, but.
Speaker 2: Rick to life and all that. Yeah, but I so, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this. I just know one sentence.
Speaker 1: Already infamous sentence. So yeah, I mean, let's let's dress
Speaker 1: this from a serious point of view. Obviously, fuck this.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say from his you know, response,
Speaker 1: that his I don't know, taking of responsibility or whatever,
Speaker 1: if he was to in some way answer for some
Speaker 1: of the hateful material that he was putting out there
Speaker 1: on social media, that's definitely not what he's done with
Speaker 1: the response to so we can pretty firmly say, well,
Speaker 1: that sucks, but fuck you. There's no place for it,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's really shitty that. For example,
Speaker 1: last week on the show, we were here talking about
Speaker 1: the upstanding character of a pillar of New York hardcore
Speaker 1: in Lukola, and then here we are a week later,
Speaker 1: and you know, one of his peers is just absolutely
Speaker 1: fucking embarrassed himself like this. He kind of seems like
Speaker 1: he's an old man who's fallen into the propaganda trap
Speaker 1: of thinking that there's an epidemic of trans people going
Speaker 1: into schools to predate on children under the flag of diversity,
Speaker 1: which is verbeted near enough. What he says, basically, I.
Speaker 2: Mean that that mindset is so prevalent today and it's
Speaker 2: founded on absolutely nothing, Like these people so convinced and
Speaker 2: so scared are that they're being replaced by trans people,
Speaker 2: like is so inane, Like grow up. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 2: place for any of this nonsense, And especially if he's
Speaker 2: so what I'm gathering is he's doubled down and he's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: He like I said that. The point that I just
Speaker 1: you know, voiced there is basically what he you know,
Speaker 1: retorts with in parts of his very very long rant
Speaker 1: that also then goes to several other more unexpected places.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's such a again, like a shithead
Speaker 1: attitude that from our perspective does just make us go off.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's that's Marauder fucking off the list,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Like if we were to ever to do
Speaker 1: you know, at some point, I'm sure we would have
Speaker 1: done like a master Killer album club because master Killer, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's become a very beloved album, particularly kind
Speaker 1: of had a resurfacing in the last like handful of years.
Speaker 1: I would probably say it was my favorite New York
Speaker 1: hardword album, Like it's a brilliant record, and I would have,
Speaker 1: you know, again put it forward for an album club.
Speaker 1: But at some point I kind of skirted around doing
Speaker 1: so because I didn't want to step on the hard
Speaker 1: Law podcast host so much, because like they made it
Speaker 1: so much of a thing, like they are kind of
Speaker 1: responsible for a lot of the you know, resurfacing of
Speaker 1: popularity that that record has had, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of crib their thing for a while.
Speaker 1: But we would have got to it eventually, like maybe
Speaker 1: in the next few months. I don't know, because it's
Speaker 1: a fucking phenomenal record. But that's that's that off the
Speaker 1: list now, you know, master Killer is not it's not
Speaker 1: turning up on the show again, which is just you know,
Speaker 1: it's always a sad thing when you lose a really
Speaker 1: beloved piece of art like that, because someone involved has
Speaker 1: just absolutely trampled over themselves and marginalized members of the community,
Speaker 1: most importantly in such a just shit head way. So
Speaker 1: that's again the saddest, realistically serious side of this whole thing.
Speaker 1: But then he did this whole Instagram thing, and like
Speaker 1: I said, the kind of tone around this has changed
Speaker 1: from like, fuck Marauder. I mean, it should still be
Speaker 1: that fuck marauder, fuck aorhay, but it's also turned into
Speaker 1: are you all right? Mate? Like what? Because it's turned
Speaker 1: into oh, I think you have head trauma. I think
Speaker 1: your brain is bleeding from the inside out. Because when
Speaker 1: he somehow turns this whole thing and he gets onto
Speaker 1: a sentence that like, I don't even know if it's
Speaker 1: correct for me to repeat this, but when he arrives
Speaker 1: at the quote, you'll probably have already seen the suspect
Speaker 1: quoting question floating around, and everyone collectively watching this video
Speaker 1: or reading this transcript does an absolute double take of sorry,
Speaker 1: what this is? The Charotte the fucking the head to
Speaker 1: head for the most jaw droppingly stupid hardcore quote of
Speaker 1: the year has gotten very serious now because we've had
Speaker 1: my bad slimes. Who will join them in the fucking
Speaker 1: meathead Olympics of hardcore?
Speaker 2: This agnostic front say something so stupid, please.
Speaker 1: I hope not. He brings up Malcolm X multiple times.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's so fucking stupid. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, Marauder absolutely showing their asses awful behavior, also
Speaker 1: at the very least doing it in spectacular fashion. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna say that at the very least, but yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck that, and solidarity with all the members of the
Speaker 1: trans community who feel threatened and cast off by by
Speaker 1: attitudes like this. You will always have a place here.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Let's move on to some more,
Speaker 1: more more easygoing news. Vacum happened this past weekend while
Speaker 1: I was at that big Opeth show, and they announced
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of their bill for next year. And
Speaker 1: I think most interestingly, I don't know if these are
Speaker 1: officially the headliners. I'm assuming they are, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have more to announce, but from what
Speaker 1: it looks like from this post, they put out three
Speaker 1: headliners for next YEAR'SVACAN Festival. I think there is always
Speaker 1: some curiosity, both in terms of just like where bands
Speaker 1: are at in the world and you know, looking here
Speaker 1: from Afar going who is you know in the position
Speaker 1: where they're doing this, but also thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: our simultaneous festival calendar here in the UK and what
Speaker 1: might pop up whatever. Three bands are at the top
Speaker 1: of this vacant announcement are Electric call Boy, five Finger
Speaker 1: Death Punch and a fortieth anniversary Helloween Show Helloween uh
Speaker 1: being the old head band for the bunch. Obviously they
Speaker 1: are German, so like yep, established Vacan, they're great whatever
Speaker 1: Five Finger Death Punch. We often say how mad it
Speaker 1: is that they are still relevant, but I guess they
Speaker 1: are still big enough to headline a festival in Germany
Speaker 1: at VACAN. Electric coll Boy must be said also German
Speaker 1: and these German festivals do have a you know, a
Speaker 1: tendency of course to you know, bring up their own
Speaker 1: bands and have their homegrown support. But Vacan arguably you know,
Speaker 1: still right up there with Hellfest, the biggest metal festval
Speaker 1: in the world, being headlined now by a band who
Speaker 1: ten years ago were unlistenable. This is some some rise.
Speaker 2: How dare you you love mc thunder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I never know how big contemporary
Speaker 2: bands are anymore because I feel like I just blink
Speaker 2: in suddenly Ice nine Kills or playing arenas and whatever,
Speaker 2: most less or headlining arena is like who knows. But
Speaker 2: Electric Collboy, like you can see that growth, like they
Speaker 2: they've grown so quickly over the last seven years. And
Speaker 2: I think the German thing probably is a factor. But
Speaker 2: I see that and it doesn't feel it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: weird to me. It feels all right. I mean generally,
Speaker 2: I look at these three headliners and I think that's great.
Speaker 2: I would have fun at that. I like all three
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not quite so. I mean as someone
Speaker 1: who I'm a big fan of one of these bands,
Speaker 1: and no it's not Electric core Boy or five thing
Speaker 1: at f Bunch, I would say the you know, the
Speaker 1: post hyper hypeie is of Electric core Boy. I have
Speaker 1: some fondness for I wouldn't call myself a big fan,
Speaker 1: but you know, they have some songs that I think
Speaker 1: are wicked fun and even like you know, way back
Speaker 1: in the day, there are a small handful I will say,
Speaker 1: a small thought there are a small handful of five
Speaker 1: things at applance tunes like you know, lift Me Up Speak.
Speaker 1: So it's not like three bands I have absolute, not
Speaker 1: every active, destainful. It's not quite like you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't sing to me as like a spectacular trio
Speaker 1: of you know, all time heavy metal legends does it.
Speaker 1: But it is quite. It is eye catching when you
Speaker 1: look at it on the post.
Speaker 2: Like five Finger Death Punch. Have they played Whacking before?
Speaker 2: It feels so on the whack into me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it because it's so American. I would
Speaker 1: imagine sure that they must have played it at some point.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this post. Yes, children are Borederm, aren't it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which is another weird thing that's been going on there.
Speaker 1: So there's they've played a couple of like tribute shows
Speaker 1: with I think it's the guy from Lost Society who's
Speaker 1: been fucking front of them, like you know, he's finished.
Speaker 1: So so sure, but they played a couple of tribute
Speaker 1: shows in Finland, and I guess now they are taking
Speaker 1: it on the road in a you know have named
Speaker 1: it now Children of Boden, we have the whole like
Speaker 1: Bodom After Midnight situation for a little while. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of unsure again about the whole how far that is going,
Speaker 1: But there is certainly there is a version of Children
Speaker 1: of Bodom that is playing music right now.
Speaker 2: Ah weird, maybe it all the good, who knows, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's I think I've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of people take the piss out of this whacking thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's when you're like traditional metal big you know,
Speaker 2: old school headliner is Halloween, who are by losers but
Speaker 2: they're you know, people make fun of Parametal and they
Speaker 2: make fun of Halloween. So when that's the one.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well, English people make fun of it. The
Speaker 1: Germans all love it.
Speaker 2: I've not seen any German German people's opinions on this.
Speaker 2: They probably love all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, like I said, from our point of view,
Speaker 1: we're looking here, and it certainly makes you go, where
Speaker 1: will Electric Core Boy be the next time that they
Speaker 1: appear on you know, I would imagine they'll play a
Speaker 1: festival summer, you know, next year. Where will they appear
Speaker 1: and in what slot will we get you know, five
Speaker 1: Finger death Punch somewhere, We'll get Hellween somewhere. But whatever,
Speaker 1: there you go. Certainly a striking trio of headliners coming
Speaker 1: from from back and next year a few tour announcements.
Speaker 1: We'll start with the bigger ones. Weezer have come out
Speaker 1: with a whole world tour basically line up in support
Speaker 1: of their new album, which is coming out in just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks here. It will be in our
Speaker 1: next Reviews Bag show in August. But this is going
Speaker 1: everywhere from you know, Tokyo over to obviously loads of
Speaker 1: North American dates, we do have some European and UK dates.
Speaker 1: In the UK they are playing Newcastle, Manchester, Leeds, Glasgow, Birmingham,
Speaker 1: London and Cardiff. It is a arena shows, so they
Speaker 1: are going for bigger than maybe they you know, once
Speaker 1: did ten years ago or so. They are playing venues
Speaker 1: like the co Op Life in Manchester, which is pretty massive.
Speaker 1: They're also bringing Taking Back Sunday along with them as
Speaker 1: a support act, which is definitely a pairing that I
Speaker 1: would go and see, like I would like to go
Speaker 1: to this. This would be a great time, but big venues
Speaker 1: for ways of this time. Maybe they are also trying
Speaker 1: to ride the whole you know that something that we've
Speaker 1: referenced so many times with the likes of Corn and
Speaker 1: Deaftones and even Acid Bath like whatever, the general strange
Speaker 1: inflation of bands that seems to be happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon they could. I reckon they could pull
Speaker 2: it off. I hope so, and I hope it doesn't
Speaker 2: you know, I hope they don't embarrass themselves. It is ambitious.
Speaker 2: But people love Weezer, right, people love Beverly Hills, they
Speaker 2: love hash Pipe whatever. I reckon, I mean, I'll be
Speaker 2: going even if it's just me and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeh, I reckon they can pull it off. Whether
Speaker 1: the venues will be you know, sold out, I am
Speaker 1: unsure of that. I think the last time they played
Speaker 1: these arena venues, I might be right in saying, was
Speaker 1: when they did that tour with the Smashing Pumpkins, right,
Speaker 1: which obviously the Smashing Pumpkins had the top billing on
Speaker 1: that and were the bigger pull. I suppose whether they
Speaker 1: can do it on their own is is yet to
Speaker 1: be seen. But clearly they think that they can make
Speaker 1: a go of it. So that's happened in there, and
Speaker 1: that's happening in May here in the UK, where you
Speaker 1: also have news of something that I have been waiting
Speaker 1: to be announced what looks to be the final UK
Speaker 1: tour of Megadeth, who of course put out their final
Speaker 1: album at the start of this year. Its like a
Speaker 1: very long time ago now, doesn't that album? But I
Speaker 1: have been waiting to see when Megadeth would you know,
Speaker 1: bring their Farewell taught into the UK because, regardless of
Speaker 1: what might be said about either their recent output or
Speaker 1: their recent live shows, even I want to go because
Speaker 1: Megadeth are one of the greatest having out of all time.
Speaker 1: They are one of the most important bands to me
Speaker 1: from a you know, a ripe teenage age, and it
Speaker 1: is just something that I can't see myself not doing
Speaker 1: right going to the final chance I have to go
Speaker 1: see Megadeth with my friends who also love Megadeth and
Speaker 1: sing along to whichever of those phenomenal catalog of songs
Speaker 1: they choose to play in that moment. I don't really
Speaker 1: understand the branding of this tour because you would think Megadeth,
Speaker 1: It's like when Slayer did theirs who werefore coming up.
Speaker 1: I think it was all you know, Slayer the Farewell
Speaker 1: Tour right like it was very clearly labeled. It's like
Speaker 1: this is the last time that we are going to
Speaker 1: be going to be here, whether that turned up to
Speaker 1: be true or not, and you would think Megadeth's Farewell
Speaker 1: to All. That's how you attract numbers, right, because that's
Speaker 1: how you know if there's someone out there, some hypothetical
Speaker 1: guy who is out of the loop, doesn't know that
Speaker 1: Megadeth are like on that just release their final album,
Speaker 1: are going to be on their way out. Maybe used
Speaker 1: to like them when he was younger, and something pops
Speaker 1: up on his Facebook feed and he goes, oh, Megadeth
Speaker 1: are playing the Farewell Tour. I'll go to that instead.
Speaker 1: This is labeled the Megadeth Breakout Hybernation of the Nation's Tour,
Speaker 1: and the tour poster has their mascot vic Rattlehead kind
Speaker 1: of breaking out of some like cryogenic freezer, which everything
Speaker 1: about that screens like, oh, yeah, we're breaking out of
Speaker 1: a period of inactivity, not we are about to enter inactivity.
Speaker 1: It doesn't scream farewell tour branding to me at all.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the marketing decision of the Again, labeling
Speaker 1: and design of this is very weird, but that is
Speaker 1: also a package that is going to be bringing along
Speaker 1: black label society. And Testament along with that as well,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be coming in March of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven to London, Nottingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Glasgow, Birmingham, Leeds.
Speaker 1: And they're also going for those similarly sized arenas as Weezer,
Speaker 1: which again the last time they played the venues was
Speaker 1: when they were supporting Disturbed, so not filling it on
Speaker 1: their own backs at all. But I guess they're hoping
Speaker 1: with the Farewell pull weird marketing decision with the poster
Speaker 1: and name aside, that they can fill them. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'll very much be wanting to attend. A interesting quirk
Speaker 1: this whole thing is that their date at Manchester's carp
Speaker 1: Live Arena is on the off night in between Rush
Speaker 1: is to dates at the co Op Live Arena, the
Speaker 1: exact same place where Rushi are playing, literally two nights
Speaker 1: either side of them. Mark, you are already coming down
Speaker 1: to see Rush with us at the co Op Live Arena.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna attempt you to come and see Meganeth
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 2: I think so. It will depend on a couple of factors, price,
Speaker 2: my mood.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you listen to I don't care
Speaker 1: twenty times in between now and then, I think your
Speaker 1: mood will take you towards it.
Speaker 2: I listen right. I know that song is stupid, I
Speaker 2: genuinely like it. I do listen to it a lot.
Speaker 2: Is really funny. The thing my thing with Meganeth is
Speaker 2: they're not like a band I love, even though they
Speaker 2: have records I love and songs I love, They're not
Speaker 2: one of my favorite metal bands. But I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: near that venue anyway. It's my only chance, but it's
Speaker 2: my last chance to see them. I might as well.
Speaker 2: And like I've never seen Testament, I love Testament. I'd
Speaker 2: love to see that. Sure, I'll have a lovely bathroom
Speaker 2: break during Black Global Society let's say maybe, let's say
Speaker 2: maybe I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I would encourage you too. I think you should, because
Speaker 1: I certainly will be doing my best to get there,
Speaker 1: because the breakout hibernation of the Nation's tour will be
Speaker 1: for me at a momentous time, another momentus for maybe
Speaker 1: some people out there. Announcement is a Radar Festival's first
Speaker 1: announcement for their twenty twenty seven at Radar Festival is
Speaker 1: the kind of like tech prog metal festival that takes
Speaker 1: place in Manchester. It's kind of filled in the niche
Speaker 1: at ten years ago we used to say tech Fest
Speaker 1: had that, like that's the kind of vibe of Radar Festival,
Speaker 1: you know, like seventh and eight string guitar pedal extravaganza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but their first headliner for next year is Mick Gordon,
Speaker 1: the composer of the Doom video game score, playing that
Speaker 1: live for the first time ever with a full band
Speaker 1: I believe, maybe an orchestra as well. Like he's really
Speaker 1: pulling out the stops and doing a full thing. And
Speaker 1: this is in some ways momentous because the Doom video
Speaker 1: game score has been one of those like often cited
Speaker 1: influential kind of pivot points actually on a lot of
Speaker 1: the sonic direction of like modern you know, you might
Speaker 1: say tech metal in the last like ten years now
Speaker 1: since that was released, and I I mean, I've played
Speaker 1: that game. I don't listen to the score in my
Speaker 1: own time because I don't know. I'm listening to bands instead.
Speaker 1: But it's obviously it's a well known piece of music
Speaker 1: and it is maybe for some people out there who
Speaker 1: are more that way inclined, a momentous piece of music.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there will be lots of people out
Speaker 1: there who are going to be really interested in seeing,
Speaker 1: Like I said, what seemed to be really pulling out
Speaker 1: all the stops showcasing. I think it's cool that Radar
Speaker 1: have bagged it. Who are you know? Again, they own
Speaker 1: their niche, but they're not the largest festival in the world,
Speaker 1: and this is something that genuinely, you know, makes headlines
Speaker 1: and will like I think, you know, turn heads of
Speaker 1: people who might not even have considered going to a
Speaker 1: Radar festival before. So I think that's a good thing
Speaker 1: for them. That's a really like good headliner to bag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't personally have a lot of you know, connection
Speaker 1: or interest really like it's not like for me a
Speaker 1: must see thing, but I can imagine for some people
Speaker 1: out there it would be a mussive.
Speaker 2: So that record is like secretly a class like a
Speaker 2: modern day classic to some folk.
Speaker 1: Like it's a touchstone definitely, even like who are the.
Speaker 2: Biggest metal band? Bring Me the Horizon? You are cribbing
Speaker 2: from the Doomstone tracks sometimes on like the post Human stuff,
Speaker 2: so like it is genuinely part of the DNA of
Speaker 2: modern metal. I don't really like it. It's one of those
Speaker 2: things that people will be like, if you was a
Speaker 2: really good but blood pop and metal thing, listen to that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's it's like, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: It's cool when you're playing rather a morbid thank you
Speaker 1: very much, you know.
Speaker 2: Exactly I'm listening to. I don't care. But it's also
Speaker 2: like I couldn't imagine any other festival hosting it.
Speaker 1: Maybe Arc Tangent, but like, yeah, I couldnt even imagine
Speaker 1: because it's so popular, I could I could imagine doing
Speaker 1: it like a download second stage or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it does feel correct for Radar And
Speaker 2: it's so is he like never performed live or is
Speaker 2: it never performed Doom? Like I know nothing about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't speak to Mick Gordon's entire career, but
Speaker 1: it is it's the first time the Doom score has
Speaker 1: been played by him with a proper band and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really cool thing and I'm sure like
Speaker 2: it will bring people in and it's an interesting sort
Speaker 2: of like Curio. Even if you are going to that
Speaker 2: festival and you don't like that soundtrack, I'm sure it
Speaker 2: would be really cool. And those like riffs, they are
Speaker 2: rhythmic and they are you know, jutterering in sort of
Speaker 2: like a dance music ye way, So I'm sure it
Speaker 2: really work live, So yeah, I'm sure it'll be cool.
Speaker 2: And like fair play to Radar for getting a really
Speaker 2: like outside the box unique headliner.
Speaker 1: Yeah I agree, And I said I think that'd be
Speaker 1: good for their festivals. I don't know, kind of just
Speaker 1: just name and word of mouth and everything as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, good for them. A festival that if it
Speaker 1: was nearby to me I would be maybe more drawn too.
Speaker 1: Is I just want to highlight there's a festival's happening
Speaker 1: in Toronto, a hardcore festival called Town of Hardcore in
Speaker 1: October of this year's and it is. It's just a
Speaker 1: full on hardcore fest, right hardcore. Everywhere you look, hundred
Speaker 1: demons are playing, Youth of Today areplying loads of names.
Speaker 1: The thing that's weird about it is there is a
Speaker 1: pre show that is Dungeon Synth that has a quest
Speaker 1: Master and Dungeon Troll, which is one of the acts
Speaker 1: who is playing the Dungeon Synth stage at Fortress next
Speaker 1: year involved in it is Is this the beginning of
Speaker 1: hardcore kids getting into Dungeon Synth, Like this is so weird,
Speaker 1: this is such an like this has been shared around
Speaker 1: a lot because it's such an out of the box,
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean there is a Dungeon Synth
Speaker 1: pre show for what could otherwise be like fucking Sound
Speaker 1: and Fury or this is hardcore or something? Is this
Speaker 1: the beginning of like because quest Master is the same
Speaker 1: guy who is Steroid? Right, which are you know a
Speaker 1: punk adjacent band? Is there a link being forged there?
Speaker 1: Because when I was an Outbreak earlier this year, I
Speaker 1: saw a couple of steroid shirts around. I was like,
Speaker 1: are steroid? And therefore also quest Master forging some sort
Speaker 1: of cultural link between a bridge between you know, Dungeon
Speaker 1: Synth and hardcore. Are we gonna start seeing lots of
Speaker 1: hardcore artists, you know, doing Dungeon Synth side projects or whatever?
Speaker 1: Is this the next trend that's going to hit just
Speaker 1: like death metal did a few years ago. It's fascinating
Speaker 1: to me. I'm definitely here for it.
Speaker 2: Morts on Outbreak, I genuinely what the hell? I hope so?
Speaker 2: I because it's so uncool. I know, we think it's cool,
Speaker 2: but we're like we're previous like Dungeons and we're in
Speaker 2: the hardcore is cool? The cool thing I would love it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, do hardcore kids like Poison Ruin
Speaker 2: because that is you know the line.
Speaker 1: The cooler ones do. Yeah, whatever, Bridge and they clearly
Speaker 1: think this is gonna work because they booked in, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe no one will fucking go to the
Speaker 1: pre show day, or maybe it's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: super small, probably appealing to a very small niche of
Speaker 1: the people who at the overall festival itself. But if
Speaker 1: you'd have presented me, for example, the Fortress line up
Speaker 1: for next year and gone pick one band from this,
Speaker 1: so you think you're going to be at a hardcore festival,
Speaker 1: it might have been a while before I got into
Speaker 1: Dungeon Troll and this is this has opened up I
Speaker 1: think a realm of possibilities I would like to see explored.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. I mean, variety is the spice of life,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I was gonna mention I didn't put it
Speaker 1: on the review show a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 1: was going to do it at one point and then
Speaker 1: it ended up just just being me and Sam and
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it with Elliott in there as well.
Speaker 1: But Feif, who is a dundant the artist who play
Speaker 1: Fortress this year. He's the guy who is also currently
Speaker 1: the screaming vocalist and keyboard player in Gallo Bray's live band,
Speaker 1: fIF put out a record a few weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: I saw it got reviewed in Pitchfork, which was the
Speaker 1: thing that turned my head about it because I listened
Speaker 1: to it because I'm aware of who Thief is. And
Speaker 1: then I saw it come through in Pitchfork, and the
Speaker 1: Pitchfork argument was like, this is I don't know. They
Speaker 1: kind of positioned it as a record that would maybe
Speaker 1: have broader appeal than just the Dungeon Synth heads, which
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily hear, but they were like, maybe this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the the Board of Canada or the
Speaker 1: Whex Twin or whatever of Dungeon Synth. And if you
Speaker 1: look in the right places, Dungeon syth is weirdly percolating
Speaker 1: into lots of areas where Dungeon sentths shouldn't be. And
Speaker 1: this festival lineup is I don't know, the most dramatic
Speaker 1: latest occurrence, and I don't think it would be the last.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like we first noticed this with quest
Speaker 2: Master themselves, because they are weirdly yeah, and have crossed
Speaker 2: over in a way. We're like, I have friends who
Speaker 2: aren't as nerdy as us who like quest Master because
Speaker 2: it sounds like old video games and stuff. So you
Speaker 2: never know, ye.
Speaker 1: Put one on Sport in the Doom soundtrack and all
Speaker 1: the people who like you know who like elden Ring
Speaker 1: will be in that then diagram, I suppose. But yeah,
Speaker 1: watch this space, I suppose on the dungeonsid phenomenon that
Speaker 1: is slowly but surely sweeping the world. Lincoln Park have
Speaker 1: got a new documentary that's coming out called Unshatter, which
Speaker 1: is quite a clunky title, I suppose, referring to their
Speaker 1: their reunion and you know, comeback period that they've had.
Speaker 1: They also have a sort of like I know, tie
Speaker 1: in soundtrack live album that's going out with that as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think any documentary will be able to as
Speaker 1: thrillingly capture the sensation of when on the opening night
Speaker 1: of their comeback we got to in real time see
Speaker 1: all those headlines coming out about like wait, she she's
Speaker 1: a scientologist, she went to whose trial? Like a whole
Speaker 1: nothing will capture that particular evening, but if I suppose
Speaker 1: those things will probably left out. Lincoln Park's documentary is
Speaker 1: going to be coming out in September. This is interesting
Speaker 1: and appealing to me. I suppose My Dying Bride, who
Speaker 1: have if you've been following that story, I've had a
Speaker 1: whole sad falling out where the lineup has sort of
Speaker 1: splintered into, you know, several versions of them. But now
Speaker 1: we have basically a whole bunch of original members of
Speaker 1: My Dying Bride, so Aaron stainforpe the front man who
Speaker 1: until very recently was in the main My Dying Bride,
Speaker 1: also bringing along original members Calvert, Robert shaw, A Jackson
Speaker 1: and Rick Meher. Basically this is all like the original
Speaker 1: members who played on the first couple of My Din
Speaker 1: Bride records, apart from the one guitarist who is still
Speaker 1: currently in Maine My Diron Bride. But they're starting a
Speaker 1: band called Towards the Sinister, which takes its name from
Speaker 1: the first My dinn Bride demo, and they are going
Speaker 1: to be basics playing live playing music from the early
Speaker 1: years of My Dining Bride, that demo period up to
Speaker 1: the first four my dinn Bride albums, and if you
Speaker 1: ask me to magic anything into existence, I would have
Speaker 1: my din Bride stop this nonsense that has kind of
Speaker 1: consumed them and just fucking talk to each other again.
Speaker 1: That it's such a weird scenario where neither side seems
Speaker 1: to being able to actually communicate with the other one,
Speaker 1: and I would have them kiss and makeup and just
Speaker 1: be a proper band again, because I've seen My diron Bride,
Speaker 1: you know, several times down the years, and I always
Speaker 1: loved them, and I always loved seeing a mix of
Speaker 1: setless material as well, like you know, newer era as
Speaker 1: well as classic era. But if you put this in
Speaker 1: front of me, a band featuring all these original members
Speaker 1: of My dine Bride who are playing the fucking seminal
Speaker 1: some of my favorite records ever, you know, first for
Speaker 1: My dine Bride and the early demos as well, I
Speaker 1: would definitely be attending. So yeah, if this comes near me,
Speaker 1: and maybe if you are, you know, so similarly doom
Speaker 1: Pilled comes near you, then it's definitely something to check out.
Speaker 1: A couple of new album announcements as we get towards
Speaker 1: the end of this slightly lengthy news show. Not loads
Speaker 1: to report on the new music front this week, but
Speaker 1: we do have a north Lane have announced their new album,
Speaker 1: which is coming out on October the thirtieth, and they've
Speaker 1: released a single from it called Cut It very weirdly
Speaker 1: fucking typeface with underscores and all sorts. It produced by
Speaker 1: who else mister Jordan Fish.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm fizziting at the bunghole. Right. We
Speaker 2: don't like North Lane, but I did check out the
Speaker 2: two songs they released, and I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is a new thing. It sort of sounds like Cross Faith.
Speaker 1: It's the one I checked out, had like rapping in it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't remember Northlying being so
Speaker 1: new metally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember them having fun.
Speaker 1: It's not that I was having fun.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the thing though. It's sort of
Speaker 2: the allure of things.
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: There's big sort of like euroy transcends, and there is
Speaker 2: rapping and whatever, but the actual metal parts suck the
Speaker 2: energy away.
Speaker 1: So you know, as as of the case. But if
Speaker 1: you are interested in north find they have a new
Speaker 1: am coming out in October. We also have Well. I
Speaker 1: still think it's a very bizarre album. Announcement. Sleep have
Speaker 1: announced their first new album in eight years. It's only
Speaker 1: the second new album of their like reunion period where
Speaker 1: they put out The Sciences in twenty eighteen and pretty
Speaker 1: universally regarded as a great comeback album, The Sciences. This
Speaker 1: is the first album since then, Hemispheres, and they put
Speaker 1: out a single recently they've got another one now. The
Speaker 1: album's going to be coming out in September and then
Speaker 1: October physically for whatever reason. But the weird thing about this,
Speaker 1: as I said a few weeks ago and the first single,
Speaker 1: is that this is seemingly the first Sleep album without
Speaker 1: Matt Pike on it, because Al has bizarrely assembled like
Speaker 1: a different lineup where he's now the only guy from
Speaker 1: you know, classic Sleep, and the idea of a Sleep
Speaker 1: album without Matt Pike on it is very fucking bizarre.
Speaker 1: So hope fucking knows. But if you are curious by
Speaker 1: hearing this bizarrely mangled Sleep line up, then their album,
Speaker 1: the first one in eight years, is coming out in
Speaker 1: just a few weeks really, you know, early September. And
Speaker 1: we also have on the Doomy for a new album
Speaker 1: from Silver Tomb, which is the current Day band of
Speaker 1: a couple of X Type of Negative members Johnny Kelly
Speaker 1: and Kenny Hickey as well and Silver Tomb's first new
Speaker 1: album in a number of years. He put out another
Speaker 1: Kenn Hicky put another record as part of the supergroup
Speaker 1: Sun Don't Shine featuring Kirk Winstein and like Crowbar members
Speaker 1: and stuff like that earlier this year as well, So
Speaker 1: you know, pretty a decent little period of productivity for
Speaker 1: him if you are like a hardcore typo fan following
Speaker 1: everything that's you know, come on since the end of
Speaker 1: that band. And finally we just go flip back to
Speaker 1: another UK tour, smaller than the others we're talking about earlier,
Speaker 1: but still one you're going to want to get to
Speaker 1: if you are stinkily inclined. Portrayaler Guilt are coming around
Speaker 1: in support of their new album that came out earlier
Speaker 1: in the year, quite a lengthy European tour. In November.
Speaker 1: In the UK they are playing Glasgow at Core Festival
Speaker 1: and then also headline dates at Leeds, Brighton, Bristol, Nottingham,
Speaker 1: at Liverpool, Newcastle, Manchester and Norwich. I've seen Petrailer Guilt
Speaker 1: several times. There is reliably sick as hell live, so
Speaker 1: if that comes near you get involved. Good stuff right
Speaker 1: We on the Patreon. In recent times, as we said
Speaker 1: way back at the beginning of this episode, Mark and
Speaker 1: I here along with Elliott, have completed a little while
Speaker 1: ago the four part band retrospective on corn Special, So
Speaker 1: if you still haven't heard that, then all that is
Speaker 1: up available for your listening pleasure deep dive into everything
Speaker 1: that band ever did since then. More recently, this last week,
Speaker 1: we have recorded and put up an album Club pack
Speaker 1: where we put together a very eccentric, freewheeling through genres
Speaker 1: bunch of records where we finally had one of the
Speaker 1: what many people say is one of the greatest records
Speaker 1: of all time on album Club with Angel Dust by
Speaker 1: Faith there more celebrating their return. We also had Within
Speaker 1: the Realm of a Dying Sun by Dead Can Dance,
Speaker 1: the self titled record from Social Distortion, a chat which
Speaker 1: features one of my favorite quotes in this podcast history,
Speaker 1: and I guess you'll have to listen to it to
Speaker 1: find out, and also a very bizarre record, Blood Inside
Speaker 1: by the Norwegian ship shifters. Oliver, Mark, you went on
Speaker 1: this album Club episode, but I'm sure that you are
Speaker 1: familiar with a bunch of the albums in question, wild Ride.
Speaker 2: Right, this is such an idiosyncratic just like Bizarre Group,
Speaker 2: it's a really good it's a really good group. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Angel Dust I enjoy Faith No More pretty good. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know that Dead Can Dance, you know,
Speaker 2: not for me, but a very interesting album and a
Speaker 2: very interesting chat. I really enjoyed listening to that, and
Speaker 2: obviously socially like I love social d I love hearing
Speaker 2: you have to hear them for the first time, like and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a clearing up a blind spot for me.
Speaker 1: Really that album Club.
Speaker 2: Shout Out Guitar Whoro three and that over record, you
Speaker 2: know it, it exists, it's there, I've heard it, love
Speaker 2: remembering it.
Speaker 1: That was the chat. I enjoy the Mode because it's
Speaker 1: an album that no one talks about like it would.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most, like Bizarre, what
Speaker 1: do you like? I didn't see that one coming album
Speaker 1: Club Picks Yes for people we've ever had, I think
Speaker 1: because people just don't know about this album. But being
Speaker 1: able to, you know, having the reverse experience of me
Speaker 1: presenting it to the other guys and being like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck do you think? It's like absolute, like monstrosity
Speaker 1: was really for me, really rewarding a real refun I'm
Speaker 1: glad we did it. So that is available right now
Speaker 1: up on the that's my Patreon, And this coming week
Speaker 1: Sam and I are going to revive the Dormant for
Speaker 1: a few months. T and M does Horror. We're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about Obsession and the new Evil Dead
Speaker 1: movie as well, so I'm currently putting the stuff together
Speaker 1: for that that will be coming this weekend as well.
Speaker 1: So if you want to support us and you want
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Speaker 1: place to hear them. Let's end this early August, seventh
Speaker 1: of August Hyperblasts with the release round up, and it's
Speaker 1: an interesting batch this time because we start off with
Speaker 1: what I guess we can now call an album from
Speaker 1: one of our giant festival headlining bands, which is not
Speaker 1: what we were looking at this, you know, in the
Speaker 1: run up to it as being, but it is now
Speaker 1: Tans Need the new album by Electric Coolboy if not
Speaker 1: a Mad Light. You know, they're now in the position
Speaker 1: where we talk about a new Parkway Drive album and
Speaker 1: you slipped the album whatever Electric cool Boy.
Speaker 2: Years ago.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but yeah, I guess on that front. With
Speaker 1: the renewed news about Vacan and everything, I guess I
Speaker 1: would be curious what people think about, you know, this
Speaker 1: Electric Collboy album compared to the last one. Whether it's
Speaker 1: just kind of more of the same hole or if
Speaker 1: there's anything fresh or new to it, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, let us know now that is out
Speaker 1: in the world. We also have the new album from
Speaker 1: the Master of Horror, John Carpenter, who these days doesn't
Speaker 1: make any movies, but he does make quite a lot
Speaker 1: of music, and he has put out a new record
Speaker 1: called Cathedral, which is a mixture of you know, his
Speaker 1: iconic soundtrack synth wave style. He's a pioneer that kind
Speaker 1: of music, electronic music and also rock music is pretty rocking.
Speaker 1: So if you want to hear that, you know, a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff from as we said, the master himself,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest men who ever live, John Carpenter.
Speaker 1: Cathedral is out now. Really big week for the punk,
Speaker 1: hardcore and alternative rock side of things like that is
Speaker 1: where the majority of the big name releases this week
Speaker 1: are coming from. So If that is your delectation, you
Speaker 1: are well served this week. I think. First up we
Speaker 1: have the new album from Cancer Bats. It is called
Speaker 1: Give Me Dirt. The of course lovable Canadian punk rogues
Speaker 1: always happy to hear new Cats of Bats. Then new
Speaker 1: one is out now. On the alternative rock side of things,
Speaker 1: there is of course one of the most beloved bands
Speaker 1: from kind of the early twenty tens, emo revival Citizen,
Speaker 1: with their newest album Halcyon Blues. Jamie Lenman, the former
Speaker 1: Reuben frontman turned silo arts for a long time now
Speaker 1: who has bizarrely seemingly retired from music and then unretired
Speaker 1: from music and all sorts of his new album Puke,
Speaker 1: which I think is only available on band camp, is
Speaker 1: out now today. Ceremony, the American hardcore punk who band
Speaker 1: who have you Know, then pivoted and gone through all
Speaker 1: genres like post punk and the like. I think I'm
Speaker 1: right in saying this record is supposed to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a more of an aggressive one
Speaker 1: compared to what they have done recently, maybe going a
Speaker 1: little bit heavier than they have done in recent times.
Speaker 1: But Ceremony then new album called tell Me Your Dream
Speaker 1: Over and again the kind of like hardcore slash alternative rock,
Speaker 1: kind of crossover realm. I suppose there's a band called
Speaker 1: Public Opinion with the Curse of Public Opinion. And then
Speaker 1: in UK hardcore we've got Negative Frame with Break the Ice,
Speaker 1: a debut album there, I believe if you might want
Speaker 1: to venture from there into more like noise rock terrains,
Speaker 1: there is a band called Wealthy Women with their album Children.
Speaker 1: And then we will round off a few more releases
Speaker 1: from the world of underground extreme metal. We have got Holder,
Speaker 1: one of the more hotly tipped exciting black metal bands
Speaker 1: of the current decade. I loved, absolutely loved her last
Speaker 1: album and spoilers. This new one is pretty damn good
Speaker 1: as well. Whole. This new album called VERBALGM, is out today.
Speaker 1: Dimner Lutfa a band from Belarus. I've got an album
Speaker 1: called Vieraj dim Na Latva are a very interesting band.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time earlier this year doing
Speaker 1: a very lengthy Metal Hammer feature about them because they
Speaker 1: have a very crazy, quite harrowing at times story of
Speaker 1: essentially fleeing Belarus due to you know, political dictatorship and
Speaker 1: repression and stuff, fleeing into Ukraine, which was then immediately
Speaker 1: invaded by Russia and how we do flee out of
Speaker 1: Ukraine into Poland and obviously that the whole insane chain
Speaker 1: of events with him. But they're a very interesting band
Speaker 1: in terms of again they're being very outspoken about these
Speaker 1: kind of things. They're kind of in the post black
Speaker 1: metal with a bit of doom sort of crossover range.
Speaker 1: And I think that this album has features from the
Speaker 1: likes of Aaron Stainthorpe from my Dine Bryde and some
Speaker 1: other folks as well appearing on it. So if that
Speaker 1: sounds interesting to you, then that album is out there
Speaker 1: as well. And then finally, if you might fancy a
Speaker 1: little bit of Scandinavian death this week, then there is
Speaker 1: a band called Horror Fire with an album called Revelations
Speaker 1: of Gore which ends our at least round up for
Speaker 1: this week and ends this hyperblast. Thank you very much
Speaker 1: for listening. Obviously, this weekend is Bloodstock. I am not
Speaker 1: attending in a very rare turn of events, This is
Speaker 1: a very rare Bloodstot that I'm gonna be missing this time.
Speaker 1: But I hope that if you are there then you
Speaker 1: have a great time. And why we will not have
Speaker 1: a review episode next week, as we normally do because
Speaker 1: we're not there. Hopefully you have a fabulouscasion if you
Speaker 1: are there. Instead, we will keep on chucking forward here
Speaker 1: and that's not we'll have more hyperblasts. We'll have a
Speaker 1: reviews episode you know, soon to come. But like I said,
Speaker 1: right now, we are going to be working on the
Speaker 1: the appplop pack has just gone out, Tina, does horror
Speaker 1: come up as well? We have another band special actually
Speaker 1: coming very not far in the future. I'll keep the
Speaker 1: under wraps for now, but you will know soon enough
Speaker 1: and then more to come from there. So see you
Speaker 1: back here next time. Cheers for listening, everybody. Bye,