WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.399 Hello, everybody, Welcome to That Not Metal. We are your 2 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.960 weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and this is an 3 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:39.479 addition here every Thriday with Hyperblasts, our news release round 4 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.560 up show where we let you know what has been 5 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.679 going on in what has turned out to be a 6 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.920 I don't know, a particularly divisive week. Some of the 7 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.600 negative news stories very much, I don't know, stealing some 8 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.240 of the limelight away from some of the more positive 9 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.399 stuff we might have to talk about. It's been kind 10 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.439 of a stupid week, isn't it. 11 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.079 It's been a stupid week, But also it sort of 12 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.359 exists in areas that I don't know about, So a 13 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.359 lot of this is gonna be telling me what's been 14 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:09.840 going on. 15 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.400 Okay, great, well, if that's the dynamic we're going for 16 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.079 between us. My name is Perenhesh. The person I will 17 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.680 be informing of the week's catastrophes and going on. You 18 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.079 can hear there is mister Mark Sanderson. How are you doing, Mark? 19 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.200 How has your time being haven't been? I think the 20 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.280 last time we did something together was when we were 21 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.719 finishing up our Corn special a few weeks ago. You're 22 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.879 still getting your scatting. 23 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:36.120 In genuinely right, whenever we finish one of these specials, 24 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.319 I will go like, Okay, well I'm not listening to 25 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.959 w Weezer for a year, I'm not listening to you know, 26 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.000 I like this on Fire for a little while whatever. 27 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.959 I've genuinely listened to The Nothing and The Path of 28 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.640 Totality multiple times. 29 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.040 Since I would expect nothing Less to be honest. 30 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.280 Like I say, they're just one of those bands that 31 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.079 are always in my life. So I'm not ready to 32 00:01:58.159 --> 00:01:58.760 let go yet. 33 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.079 Yeah, fair enough. Well, you know, we might touch on 34 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:03.560 some more of what's been going on the Patron a 35 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.519 little bit later, but before we get into the news. 36 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.599 I've also had a pretty pretty fun week. I went 37 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.520 along to a event I was very very curious about, 38 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.280 very very happy to be able to tag along and attend. 39 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:22.120 Last weekend, I went to Opeth's gig at the Peace 40 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:27.719 Hall in Halifax, which that venue, I guess is I 41 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:29.560 hadn't heard of it until like a couple of years ago. 42 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.560 I think Corn maybe played there when around the time 43 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.560 they were doing that Gunnersbury Park show beyond on the 44 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.840 subject of Corn, but it seems like more and more 45 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.360 of our lot have been booked to play there. It's 46 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.759 where Turnstile are playing in a few weeks, which might 47 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:43.800 be mad. It is where jimmyet World are doing one 48 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:48.840 of their twenty fifth anniversary Bleed American shows. But the show, 49 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.919 the show, and the bill, I suppose that really caught 50 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:54.439 my eye from this bunch was Opeth there and this 51 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.560 venue in Halifax, So Halifax in West Yorkshire. I don't 52 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:00.800 know why, Like I said, this place is started to 53 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.400 book more and more. I mean it showed from across, 54 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.800 like you know, all sorts of genres and stuff, but 55 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.759 particularly that you know a handful of like T and 56 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:12.400 N Universe bands. And I don't know how long this 57 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.199 place has been, you know, accommodating our lot, you know, 58 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.280 our stinky, greedy lot, so to speak. But it was 59 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.759 very very cool to go along and see this Opeth 60 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.199 build there. They were supported by Paradise Lost and Catatonia, 61 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.879 so all around that is like a perfect you know, 62 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.560 if you are a fan of kind of romantic leaning 63 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:38.159 European metal from the mid to late nineties and early 64 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:43.360 two thousands, that is a completely perfect package, right, And 65 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.479 I was thinking about just the kind of I don't know, 66 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.560 incestuous connections between those three bands where you might look 67 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:52.879 at it on you know, paper musically and you're like, yeah, 68 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:54.360 that's a good fit. But when you think about it 69 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:56.759 more more deeply than that, in terms of the law, 70 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:02.240 Opeth and Catatonia go like way back together, to the 71 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.639 point that, weirdly, this show fell on the thirtieth anniversary 72 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.319 to the day of Catatonia's album Brave Murder Day, which 73 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.759 has growled vocals on it by Michael Ackafel of Opeth, 74 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.639 and I thought, well, if there's any day, any show 75 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:18.959 where you should bust something like that out, it will 76 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.680 be today, And cowardly they did not do that, so 77 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.000 that will never happen. But just Ago by chance says 78 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.519 that they're playing together on the thirtieth anniversary of you know, 79 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.639 something like that. As part of their shared history together, 80 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.560 there is the fact that Nick Holmes from Paradise Loss, 81 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:38.199 of course, replaced Michael Lackafel from Opeth in Blood buff 82 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.800 a band which also, by the way, features several Catatonia members. 83 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:47.920 Opeth's current you know newer drummer Valterie they poached him 84 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.800 from Paradise Lost, where he was playing immediately beforehand, and 85 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.680 there was a point in the Paradise Loss set actually 86 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.680 when they played the song Ghosts from the Obsidian album, 87 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.720 which he recorded with them, and he came out and like, 88 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.439 you know, reassumed his his drum seat for them. There's 89 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.639 just all these like you know, individual connections and incredible 90 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.879 sort of ven diagram of you know, fandom and stuff 91 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:10.759 like that between these three bands. So it was like 92 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.040 a really top to bottom perfect bill. I wanted to 93 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.920 mention just a little bit again if people are curious 94 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:21.959 about the location Piece Hall in Halifax, which basically it's 95 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:26.240 like it's an open air show venue, but it's in 96 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.920 it's like a square, so you go into like this 97 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.199 kind of old Victorian looking building, but then when you enter, 98 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.279 you go into like an open air square in the 99 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.240 middle of it that is obviously then contained by the 100 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.199 walls of it, which is really like, I don't know, 101 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:45.199 just prestigious looking right when you're in there. So it's 102 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.560 why I think, particularly as well seeing bands like Opeth 103 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:49.480 and Paradise Lost there, as much as might be cool 104 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.120 to see corn or Turnstile there or whatever, I think 105 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.160 there's a particular you know, setting that worked well with 106 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.199 bands who look like they drink wine. Essentially, in the 107 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:02.399 case of someone like like Opeth and literally like right 108 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:05.519 behind the stage on the visible towering above it from 109 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.240 the other side of the square. You know, Walls is 110 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:13.079 an old like Gothic you know, Yorkshire church spire. So 111 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.720 watching a band like Paradise Lost with that, you know, 112 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.759 incredible again Yorkshire Gothic doom sensibility, and there's literally a 113 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.839 giant church spire towering over from the other side of 114 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.000 the stage. But it just it visually, it all worked together. 115 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.000 It was really really great, and particularly when it got 116 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.519 to the nighttime when Opeth were playing and the like, 117 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:37.079 the lighting from the stage was reflecting up and lighting 118 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.279 up this church tower, so like you'd have like this 119 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.360 where particularly when they were doing some of the heavier songs, 120 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.639 you had this like harsh red lighting and you've got 121 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.600 this fucking church that's beamed up all red like it 122 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.480 looked really evil and super fucking cool. So just the again, 123 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.480 the vibe of the location I think is one of 124 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.720 the more I don't know, fancy and special sort of 125 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.959 settings that I've seen a metal show at in the 126 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:03.800 UK as of late. The only puncturing of all of 127 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.680 this is the fact that the event was sponsored by 128 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:09.360 tk Max, which meant you had TK max shop Brown 129 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.959 La brendickt which if if you don't know, if you're 130 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.560 outside of the UK, it's like a high street you know, 131 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.519 shopping brand here in the UK. But I put you know, 132 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:19.480 several videos from this up on my Instagram story, and 133 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.680 almost every single reply I got from someone was like, 134 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.000 why are opes sponsored by tk Max? You've got to 135 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.839 get rid of that, which did kill the vibe a 136 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.279 little bit, but it was really really great. So Catatonia. 137 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.600 First of all, we missed about half of Catatonia because 138 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.480 while Halifax is only a kind of small town, finding 139 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.879 a place to park there weirdly when they had loads 140 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:42.959 of roadworks and stuff was kind of a nightmare. We 141 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:46.079 did a lap of this town several times over trying 142 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.319 to actually stop and get out. But you could hear 143 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.560 because it's an open air venue, you could hear Catatonia 144 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.560 from from outside it, right, And I think they played 145 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.279 a couple of dead End King songs earlier on in 146 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.480 the part that we missed, walked in when they were 147 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.360 wrapping up one of those, and then, like I said, 148 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.279 didn't do any of their you know, more Opeth aligned 149 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:09.480 in their history, older stuff, but in terms of you know, 150 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.439 the more recent material, right, I still love that record 151 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.839 Skyvoid of Stars from a few years ago, even if 152 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.959 the most recent one from last year isn't isn't as good. 153 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.399 It's nice to see Catatonia again represented as part of 154 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:25.800 all that paradise. Last very much took the occasion into hand. Weirdly, 155 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.959 they're actually from Halifax, like that is officially their hometown, 156 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.320 but apparently, and I don't know how this works, they 157 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.120 said this is their first ever show in Halifax, which 158 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.720 is mental to me because I would have imagined, like 159 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.879 in you know, nineteen ninety before their first album came out, 160 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:44.799 would imagine they would have played a pub show or 161 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.360 something in their literal hometown. But apparently they just always 162 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.000 played like Bradford or Leeds in the you know, Yorkshire vicinity, 163 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.320 as I guess there must have been more of a 164 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:54.559 music scene there. But they were like, yeah, this is 165 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.919 the first time we've ever played like the actual town 166 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:00.159 where we're from, which is really fucking bizarre. Apparently was 167 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.559 Yorkshire Day as well, August the first, which I didn't 168 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.600 know it was Yorkshire Day, but they very much again 169 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:07.919 you know, rile people up with that and took that 170 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.039 into account paralys last I've just I love that band 171 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.559 so much and give them, you know, fifteen minute hour 172 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.120 long set list or whatever, and they will switch it up. 173 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:18.679 It's not just they rely on the same stuff all 174 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.679 the time, but they can pack that with just phenomenal 175 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.000 tunes from all across the set list and all across 176 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:29.480 their you know eras even and the song from the 177 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.440 last record came out last year, which we didn't review, 178 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.799 and I didn't like it quite as much as I 179 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:36.759 think Obsidian the record Pride that which I mentioned is 180 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:38.559 like a real stand up for them. But the last 181 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.320 paras oft time is still great, and the couple of 182 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.080 tunes they played off that very much again fit the 183 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.360 you know, they sat landed really well in this kind 184 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.120 of setting. But then you've got through to like they 185 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.120 did the small Town Boy cover, which is an absolute 186 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.399 ripper that really works much better than the Lord of 187 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:59.840 the Lost version of that, like I mentioned, doing Ghosts 188 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.799 the VALTERI coming out and reassuming his drum stool, and 189 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.559 this is even without Bizarrely, they did not play either 190 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:12.240 Enchantment from Draconian Times or the song that they end 191 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.600 nearly every one of their sets ever with apart from 192 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.080 this one seemingly sageous words from from one Second, which 193 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.000 is like the guaranteed paras of Set closer, and they 194 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.159 didn't do either of those. Apparais lost. Set that doesn't 195 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.440 end with either enchantment or Sage's words should be wrong 196 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.679 and should be weird, but they still managed to pack 197 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.799 enough kind of firepower and obviously the you know, incredibly 198 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.120 infectious charm of Nick Holmes and all this stuff, they 199 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.360 still you know, fit it perfectly well. Opeth were brilliant 200 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.759 as they're particularly I think their recent kind of run 201 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.440 of form since around the last album they have been 202 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.799 particularly fantastic. The last time I saw them was when 203 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:51.360 they headlined Bloodstock a couple of years ago, but that 204 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.919 was right before the last album came out, So this 205 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.279 was my first time seeing them with again the newer 206 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:02.120 material from that really really fun and strange and dynamic, 207 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.840 ambitious last Opeth album. And so they open with obviously 208 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:08.799 that's got all those weird titles where they're all like, 209 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.039 you know, chapter or paragraph or whatever it is. But 210 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.639 the first single they released where we all heard that 211 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.720 incredible Michael Growl coming back in that was the song 212 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.279 they opened with, and that was really fucking cool. They 213 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.279 also played one of the very so I think it's 214 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:24.279 paragraph seven, one of the very strange proggy off kilter 215 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.159 ones towards the end of that record, and it's and 216 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.120 that's one of the songs where it's got the kind 217 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.840 of like narration from Ian Anderson from Jethro Hotel on 218 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:35.399 the record, and they were like, we've got you know, 219 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.720 Ian and he's not here. We've got Ian Anderson's like, 220 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.759 you know, narration part playing on the track. But we 221 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:42.879 as a band, we do not play to a click track, 222 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.240 so we sometimes you know, slow slow down, we might 223 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.000 speed up whatever. So it was like Ian Anderson, he's 224 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:50.679 going to be in the exact same place because it's 225 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.159 you know, a sampled thing. We might be out of time, 226 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.840 who knows. And then they played it and they were 227 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.399 in time. He was in time, but the VT with 228 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.879 his like lyrics that as they were coming up was 229 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:03.279 out of time. And I'm like, that's the thing that 230 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.080 even not counted for Surely that should be the thing. 231 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.120 It should be in the same place every single time, 232 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.519 but I guess not. But that was really fun. Otherwise, uh, 233 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.480 you know, set list wise Opeth because they are a 234 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:22.159 band who play very long songs, right, and the set 235 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.559 was like something like an hour and forty. I often 236 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:27.360 say that Opeth, like if we get that questions like 237 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:31.120 what's the dream evening with three hour set type band? 238 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.360 My stock answer is always always Opeth because there are 239 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:36.440 so many songs from the catalog that you want to 240 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.639 see that they don't have room for. Because each of 241 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.360 their like they're playing Deliverance every single night. That's ten 242 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.559 minutes of the set at least, you know, to take 243 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:47.000 it up, and then you throw in like here's your 244 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.159 stock Blackwater part song, here's your stock you know ghost 245 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.039 every song, whether that be Ghost of Petition or Grand 246 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:54.519 Conjuration whatever like, it fills up very very quickly. But 247 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.120 the flip side of that is if you go to 248 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:00.240 see Opeth a lot over the years, they they are 249 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.279 pretty good at switching things out. So I was looking 250 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.679 at all the setlists from the various times I have 251 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:08.000 seen Opeth, and every single time I've seen Opeth, apart 252 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.519 from when they've done like a you know, a forty 253 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:11.559 minute slot download something like that, every time I've seen 254 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.200 a full length opes set, they have played one song 255 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.799 from the Watershed album. They've Also, every single time played 256 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.960 one song from the Heritage album, but every single time 257 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.240 that one song has been a different one, so you 258 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:28.240 kind of it also means that, like, if you miss 259 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.840 the time they're playing your favorite song, they might never 260 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.159 play that song again because they'll move on to the 261 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.679 next one. So you kind of have to, you know, 262 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.039 just just catch the ones that you can do. But 263 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.039 for example, with Watershed, I've seen them do you know 264 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.120 the Lotus Eater, I've seen them do Air Apparent, all 265 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:47.039 this kind of stuff. This time from Watershed, they ended 266 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.039 the main set with hex Omaga Whoa, which is a 267 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.279 song I had not seen them doing, and that was 268 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.440 really fucking fantastic. Similarly, on the Heritage front, this was 269 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.679 the first time, weirdly, I've ever seen them play the 270 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.759 Devil's Orchard, which the single from Heritage back when it 271 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.480 came out. But it turns out I've seen them play 272 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.480 like various other songs from that record, like hack Process 273 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:08.759 and all this kind of stuff, but this is the 274 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.879 first time i'd see them do what it's probably the 275 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:14.200 catcher song on that record with that be God is Dead, 276 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.039 you know, vocal Lion that that has, and I was like, oh, 277 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.919 you know again. Another one to add to the repertoire. 278 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.000 I mentioned the you know, swapping in and out of 279 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.720 the whatever big ghost reverie song you're gonna get this time, 280 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:27.080 as it was a bloss a couple years, I've kind 281 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.399 of lent more towards this from recently was the Grand 282 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:34.039 Conjuration over Ghost Position, and I fucking love the Grand 283 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.440 Conjuration so much. It's when the keyboard player starts playing 284 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:42.279 evil congers, just like full on like whacking on those things, 285 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.639 but in an evil necromantic way, and that was sick 286 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:49.480 as hell. The real like event of this for me, 287 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:51.919 As I mentioned about, if you missed the times that 288 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.840 they are playing your favorite songs, you might well never 289 00:14:54.919 --> 00:15:00.559 see them again. My Myopeth album Forever and Ever Ever 290 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.759 Will Be is the album's still Life, the predecessor to the, 291 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.279 of course, the iconic, much more popular Blackwater Park. And 292 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.799 every time that they have played a still Life song 293 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.000 in the set, it has been an occasion that I 294 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.480 have missed. I had never seen them. This is my 295 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.879 you know, I've been a fan of Opeth for about 296 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.720 like sixteen years, about twenty ten. You know, when I 297 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.600 really got into the shit was when I got into them, 298 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.360 immediately fell for that record. Never in all the years 299 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.440 of sing since then have I actually seen them play 300 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:29.159 a song from it. They were playing them more a 301 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:30.840 few years ago, but they only played like a London 302 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.960 date and I didn't go to it. Finally I got 303 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.039 to see the perform a song from that and it 304 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:38.679 was like, probably a song I would put in the 305 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.320 middle of the pack of that particular record, But the 306 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.919 song Godheads Lament, which is just brilliant track two on 307 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.519 that record. It starts with one of their most like infernal, 308 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.799 like morbid angel riffs, like so sick, but in the 309 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.320 middle of it it turns into this like beautiful, melodic, 310 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.679 kind of prog folk song with these like really wonderful 311 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:01.720 refrain and they dropped like three songs into the set 312 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:04.000 and I was like, that's me, Like, that's the thing 313 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.679 that I again, the big thing that I was ticking 314 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.240 off as part of this. It was really fucking great. 315 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.240 And then I looked because I guess then there must 316 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.639 been a certain curfew at the Halifax Piece Hall show 317 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.679 or something. They played Dublin the night after, because they've 318 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.200 been doing like a full European tour and as well 319 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.200 as everything that we got. They added into that set 320 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.720 Demon of the Fall, which is a ripper, another song 321 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.320 from the Last World and Testament album, the Paragigh three, 322 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.120 and then their cover of Napalm Death You Suffer three 323 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.480 times in a row. And I can't believe genuinely surprised 324 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.840 they did not find time for that one in particular set. 325 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.240 And it takes up so much time. You know, it's 326 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:40.399 an opus. 327 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.919 It generally does the thing because it takes several minutes 328 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.960 for him to introduce it the content, so I can't 329 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:52.559 actually understand that. But yeah, really a wonderful time sin Opeth. 330 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.080 I mean they're always great, particularly and that the setting 331 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.320 in the venue if people are curious about it because 332 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.679 they might be headed to the Turnstile show or the 333 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.840 gb World show or whatever it might be. Like I said, 334 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.519 I think I caught the package that most musically fit 335 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.160 in with the atmosphere and the setting of it. I mean, 336 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.559 I always liked Paradis Lost. I always love seeing those 337 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.839 Yorkshire doom bands in Yorkshire at somewhere, particularly you know, 338 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.279 beautiful looking because just that again the kind of the 339 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.880 Gothic drama of that kind of music, whether it's a 340 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.680 you know, a my Dying Bride or paras Lot or 341 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:26.680 something like that always works really well, and obviously in 342 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.079 their hometown, but Opeth were were spectac through as well, 343 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.200 so that was really, really, really good. And yeah, I 344 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.759 definitely if there is a show coming up at that 345 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.319 Halifax Piece Hall thing and you're able to you know, 346 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:39.720 get up there and make it or whatever or that 347 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:43.359 all down there, I would definitely recommend the again, the 348 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.839 vibe and the place. So that was the best thing 349 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:48.519 that happened to me this week. We are going to 350 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.200 start off the news by talking about the worst parts 351 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.240 of the week, and the annoying thing for us is 352 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.880 they're not even bad in a straightforward way. They're bad 353 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.359 in a kind of confusing way, which I guess particularly 354 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:05.279 true for our first story, which I am really annoyed 355 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:07.400 that we are here like almost a week after this 356 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.160 has you know, gotten out there, and we've still not 357 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.960 actually got it like confirmed. We've not got an official 358 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.319 statement or anything on the matter. But earlier in the 359 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.240 week it was sort of like leak reported by fucking 360 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:28.759 TMZ of all places that apparently Sid Wilson. Of course, 361 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.359 the turntablist of Slipknot has been kicked out of the 362 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:37.039 band and this has, like I said, it leaked there 363 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:42.759 through let's generously call them unofficial channels, and the rest 364 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.279 of the week has been trying to sort of, I 365 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.960 don't know, trace the fallout and the evidence of this. 366 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.839 So what this has kind of been framed as, you know, 367 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.599 if this is true and if this is kind of 368 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.480 you know, the way these events have gotten out there 369 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:01.640 is supposedly Slipknot were gearing up to make like an 370 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.319 official statement and then somehow this got out ahead of 371 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.839 time and they've kind of you know, panicked and not 372 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.720 actually come forward with whatever it might be. Again, that's 373 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.519 the kind of you know, word of mouth version of 374 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.559 events that's out there. We've since had like more you know, 375 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:20.640 dramatic wadings in from the likes of Kelly Osborne, who 376 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.759 until recently was the partner of Sid Wilson, and she 377 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.440 put up a whole like series of Instagram stories basically 378 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.880 like blasting Sid Wilson about like childcare payments and all 379 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.039 this kind of like again full on fucking culture vulture 380 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.960 like drama, what like I didn't give a shit about 381 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:38.519 this stuff, Like you know, that's that's their business to 382 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.359 sort out wherever it may be, it's got no relevance 383 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.839 to what we're actually trying to figure out right now. 384 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.400 Jim Root of slip knot once this story kind of 385 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:48.359 you know, was out there, he put out an Instagram 386 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:51.319 story basically being very evasive, saying like, hey, don't believe 387 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:55.200 what you read. But that's not expressly a denial of 388 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:59.079 this story. It's just sort of like a I don't know, 389 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.480 a dissipation of again the way it's the channel it's 390 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.759 gotten out, so we don't know right now, how like, 391 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.279 to what extent this is confirmed. And like I said, 392 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.319 I was hoping by the time we got here on 393 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.359 you know, Thursday to chat about this, that we would 394 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:17.759 have something official, and annoyingly we don't. So we've only 395 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.720 got this again, very annoying manner of kind of reporting 396 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.880 of this stuff to talk about. For my part right 397 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:28.640 now here before it's been confirmed, I would be inclined 398 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.480 to believe this. I think it might be a there's 399 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:35.440 a no smoke without fire situation. And again the manner 400 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.359 which has gotten out has kind of sort of you know, 401 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.839