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tell me into one of the questions about to ask John
is this bear Bach had a tremendous freshman season I
don't know if you could have had a better freshman
season if you are the Bears. Bach myrist like, he
just he was he was balling.
Speaker 1: He was balling.
Speaker 3: What is it that Bear is looking to improve upon
heading into year two? Also, I've had this debate with people.
You know, Bear Bachmeier's a big body. Would we can
all agree that he is? Uh, he's a large shuman, not.
Speaker 1: Like necessarily tall. I mean he's tall enough, but he's
just he's just thick.
Speaker 3: He's dense, two hundred, you know, two hundred and thirty,
two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big dude.
Speaker 3: You know, the what's the idealistic weight for like for
a quarterback like like Bear.
Speaker 1: You know, some people are like, he's got to lose weight.
I'm like, I don't know if that's case.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to keep him a weight right
now because he's so durable and he runs the ball.
Uh do you do you try to lose that gain muscle,
you know, while while you know, lowering your your body
fat percentage? And then how do you create if your bear,
how do you create more arm strength, more velocy on
his football, improve that realm of his game. Let's talk
some ball with the one the only quarterback sciences representing
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BYU great and now the father of a proud recruit
of Brigham Young University. His son got an offer to
b Why you congratulations, John Beck?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 5: Thanks?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I kind of wondered. I'm like, I'm
guessing something's gonna pop up about Preston on this one.
So yeah, pretty cool for him, that's for sure. He's
really excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's awesome, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, you remember your recruiting story, and yours was
unique to you, and you were kind of an underrated,
underappreciated high level talent in my opinion, a guy that
you know was in an offense that maybe didn't feature
your arm strength, etc.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's really cool to see your son.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's picked up I want to say, I
mean it seemed like he's picked up like four or
five offers in the span of a few days.
Speaker 5: Yeah. The recruiting landscape is very different from when I
was in high school. Just how early that schools will
talk to kids. You know, you want to get on.
I mean really quarterbacks especially. It's just schools want to
be communicating with guys that essentially kind of pop on
the map. Like the difficult part about it is is
if you are a guy that isn't getting an opportunity
early or you're a late developer, there is kind of
these recruiting cycles that right now, most of the teams
that were visiting schools were focused on twenty twenty seven.
But if somebody was at twenty twenty eight that got
to play a lot, had a lot of success, or
popped or has shown up at some of these things
that land you on some of these recruiting lists, those
schools are going to make sure that when they stopped
by the s cool that they're they're paying attention to
those twenty twenty eights. And there's a lot of rules
of how much they can communicate and when they can
and when they can't. But you know, a lot of
it is largely due to, you know, the opportunity that
my son had with our team this last year, how
well our team did and going all the way to
CIS finals. It also helps to have somebody like Jackson
Rex at our school. Jackson has been working his butt
off and has been a great player for us for
a number of years. And he is garnering a ton
of attention right now from a lot of schools. And
he was able to pick up a buiu offera as well.
And it helps when you're playing at a place also
like San Clementy, where there's a lot of tradition. There's
a lot of really good players that have come out
of there, and it's one of those schools that as
recruiters make their way down through South Orange County, they
always stop in and see who is that San Clementy
and it, you know, and it's really worked out and
my son had an opportunity to throw for a bunch
of schools and there's been a lot of good things
because of it.
Speaker 3: I'm a valuating Presidents film and I've watched it before,
you know, I'm watching them and uh, you know how.
Speaker 5: How the Pop Warner film that I've sent you over
all the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at was impressive.
Speaker 1: The High School film is even better. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It was a it was a fun season, I you know,
and jokingly I know that you know, maybe some fans
know that we've joked around about my kids sports, and
you always do a really good job as a friend
of asking how my kids sports are going, and hey,
send me some clips of your boys, would be cool
to see him. And so you've probably seen a lot
of clips of Presson over the years, from eight eight
all the way up in all of his years of football.
And it is fun now that you know he's at
that high school level. He's getting an opportunity to to
be the guy at a great school with a lot
of great kids on our team. And it's a lot
of fun. What's happening.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's always interesting, you know, because I
mean I know your mechanics very well, having seen you
thrown the ball a ton over the years, and you know,
so I'm like looking at mechanics, I'm looking at height,
I'm looking at how he throws the ball. I'm like,
you know, six' two one. Eighty you, know he's he's
a lean one eighty right now. Developing he's got a
little bit more, elasticity you know WHAT i. Mean his
release is not as quick As John. Beck's HE i
don't know if he's got the, cannon but BUT i
mean he does have a good arm man and it's
he's got a good, release quick. Release it's not as
quick as, yours, Though, JOHN i know you're probably gonna
work with him on.
Speaker 4: That, YEAH i mean that's something that quite, honestly with
continuous training and, age, Right i'm sure that you, know
most everybody's remembering what my arm was in college of THE.
Speaker 5: Nfl, right and not like in those, Cases i'm twenty
two to thirty three year old. Man you. Know For,
presty he's just he sprouted up a lot over the last,
year like his growth spurt really took, off kind of
like coming out of his freshman, YEAR i guess you could, say.
Speaker 4: Kind of heading into.
Speaker 5: It so a lot of it is just to come
down to now all of the reps that he puts
in over these next few, years and you, know, uh
baseball was a big part of my ability to do,
that and continuing to train with all the baseball stuff
and then just the more scenarios that you're in and quite,
honestly you you learn as you, go you recognize this
is WHAT i need to. Succeed and as you go
up in levels or as you you, know fail on
certain throws not just clues you into more of what
you need and what you train to be able to.
Succeed and as his body thickens out and as he you,
know tightens up his stroke and gets a stronger, base
a lot of it comes down to also the base
that you're working. With most most, kids most you, know growing,
teenagers they just don't have that man lower one move
a little bit. Differently you're gonna have to recruit, strength
and you're gonna have to recruit energy a little bit,
differently and you can't just sometimes rely on like that
that that quick rotary that you get from torque and
then that very snappy fast arm action that's not going
to be enough on some, throws and so you have
to recruit different. Ways and as he continues to grow through,
that we'll just try to continue to build as best we.
Speaker 1: Can, well AND i probably should have qualified.
Speaker 3: It you see, twitch you see a lastic LIKE i
think he's got great range of, motion elasticity and twitch
to him, though you know WHAT i, Mean yours was
a really tight compact, release, Right everyone has their unique.
Speaker 1: MECHANICS i see like like this.
Speaker 3: Long rangey pliable kid impressed AND i was really impressed.
Speaker 5: By, well the secret is gonna be now what do
you do and how do you keep that pliability and
elasticity as they have to build muscle and actually have
a body that can play the. Game, Right getting hit
in high school is way different than getting hit in.
College and as you move up to that, level you
have to have a, body not because it has to
look a certain, way but it has to be able
to take the. Beating, yeah you know you want to
be able To how CAN i maintain all of these
things like a baseball, player, Right like you know those
that ability to kind of be in a funny body
position and you'll be able to be pliable and twitchy.
Speaker 1: Enough but at what?
Speaker 5: Expense, right you got to go in the weight room
and you've got to build that body up to take
the beating of two hundred and sixty five pound defensive,
ends you, know nailing it linebackers and these d linemen
like you got to play a very physical.
Speaker 3: Game John beck here ON espn The, fan congrats De,
presston his boy tenth grader just GOT i THINK i
looked up three or four offerers AT byu was one
of the.
Speaker 1: Congratulations let's talk Bear.
Speaker 3: Bachmeyer how would you evaluate Bear bachmeyer's true freshman season
at B.
Speaker 5: YU i, MEAN i think it's such a great starting.
POINT i really think That byu did a fantastic job
of Bringing bear. Along you, know you go and you
have a kid join the program basically in the. Summer
you allow him to compete because of the talent you
believe that he. Has you put him in a position
as the day one, starter which has never been, done
and you do it in a way where you bring him.
Along quite, honestly like the approach of systematically Bringing bear
along as the schedule difficulty increased week to. Week you
look at, it you couldn't have drawn up a better
start to the season in terms of if you're going
to bring a freshman quarterback, along let's bring him along
as the opponents also become more difficult as the week's.
Go and SO i think it was just a great starting,
point a great finishing. Place bear was able to win
some games in a style that he's familiar. With Like
i've said this multiple times on the, show but go
back and go back in his high school watch how
many times he beat teams.
Speaker 4: With his legs late in games fourth.
Speaker 5: Quarter every year AGAINST us At San. Clementy it was
How bear was able to extend plays and take off
with his, legs AND i mean we lost on a
two point conversion where they had bear keep it and
he just rumbles into the end zone and they win
the football. Game and you watched him then transition from
that to then being able to go and win football
games being asked to do more from a passing. STANDPOINT
i think of like The Iowa state, game what he
was able to do throwing the. FOOTBALL i look late
in the season in some of the games like The bowl,
game and how much was asked of him to play
a different style of football than the way that they
were winning football in the beginning of the. Season so to,
me that's WHY i think such a great starting point
he's played IN i believe fourteen, games, right fourteen starts
under his. BELT i Know i've said this. Before the
next game he plays is going to Be game. Fifteen
as a. Starter for most, people that's somewhere during their
junior year is when they played maybe they got a
little bit of starts their sophomore, year and we're still
talking about really good football players getting some starts under
their belt as a sophomore and then getting more of
it and hitting those teams in terms of starts as a,
Junior bear is going to be getting, fifteen, sixteen seventeen
all at the start of his sophomore. Year that's a
remarkable place to be in terms of experience and how
that's going to help catapult him into this upcoming.
Speaker 3: Season John beck here ON Espn The, fan great freshman.
Speaker 1: Year what is he going to focus?
Speaker 3: On do you think in the off season to get
even better than he was this past?
Speaker 5: Season, well the number one thing you look at his, efficiency,
Right like in what areas CAN i be more? Efficient
like what throws DO i have the capability to make
THAT i didn't OR i can improve on something to
be able to now gain that, capability just sharpen that,
skill just the littlest. BIT i was so impressed with
how he handled. SITUATIONS i was so impressed at his.
Demeanor you, know he did a great job of protecting the,
football not turning it. Over you, Know, now how do
you find open? Guys how do you Determine LIKE i
can make that throw now and it might look a
little bit. Tighter it might be something that maybe you
turn down as a, freshman but now you're letting it.
Rip ALSO i know it's been talked about some of
the downfield, pros right like at times a little bit
the ball would hang a little and they were just
a little. Off, Like, okay now going, back what are
the things that we work on so that now from
a capability, standpoint from this space in the, POCKET i
feel more confident Being jedi accurate add those downfield, pros
not just kind of going to my deep ball, throw
but how CAN i really have that range to have
that finesse forty seven to fifty seven yards down the
field Where i'm just going to use the most recent
guy THAT i had THAT i felt seen in recent,
Years Mike, pennix like just uncanny accuracy. Downfield it first
has to start with the ability to make those, throws
and then you sharpen it to like WHEN i mean
make the, THROWS i mean just strength down the field from.
Speaker 2: This, space.
Speaker 5: AND i can work on the efficiency of being really
accurate in that. Space.
Speaker 3: John i've had debates with people that come to be
with fans and they're, like you, know you.
Speaker 1: Know bear's a big.
Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i think you should lose some, weight and, UH
i think then he'll be able to throw the ball even.
Speaker 1: Better i'm, LIKE i don't know if that's the.
Speaker 3: Case you, Know i've always been around, pictures, Right, like,
uh in throwers in, general not all the, time, right
do you get like the lean elastic throwers, Sometimes but
LIKE i always felt, like, man you, know you have
a little extra, fat little buoyancy in the. Joints you
keep that joint nice and, tight and, uh you can throw.
More you can get, more, more more throws in your your.
Arms maybe not as. Tired you, know you see the
big pictures in The Major League baseball or a big you,
Know Ben, Roethlisberger Peyton manning was a, big big, guy you,
know thick. GUY i always felt, like you, know some
of that baby fat was actually good for you and.
Throwing but kind of give me your philosophy on like body.
Weights you, know do you lean out but gain muscle,
ideally or do you kind of like having a little
bit of like you, know a little little bit at
a post tissue to help with like, Impact, right because
he's a runner and you TAKE i mean he took
a lot of.
Speaker 1: SHOTS i mean he was fairly well protected this. Year
but you get you get hit a.
Speaker 3: Lot there's a durability component your best ability is your
availability in college, football in the in the in The
National Football.
Speaker 1: League just give me some of your your philosophies on.
Speaker 5: This, well that's the main thing is durability is the
ability to take the impact and the beating week in
and week. Out you, KNOW i had some teams that
had philosophies on body fat percentage for. Quarterbacks they were
not trying to have their quarterbacks be extremely, lean. Right
they are looking at it as we have a zone
of body fat percentage relative to your body, composition the
type of you, know muscle mass that you naturally, carry
plus what we believe can help you in taking the.
Beating we want to stay in that. Zone and it's
not to do with. Throwing you. Know you look at.
Pictures you know they're trying to, do you, know acceleration
for you, know four times mass equals. Acceleration you get
a big pitcher like Ce C sabathia coming down the.
Mound that's a little bit different than the smaller, guys skinner,
guys and what they now have to. Generate like football,
players quarterbacks are not coming off of a, mound you.
Know and so much of it is is the ability
to layer, balls the ability to touch Throw like some
of the most efficient quarterbacks you, know like over the
years have sometimes only had sixty one to sixty three yard.
Arms they don't have these absolute. Cannons sometimes it's the you,
Know i'm gonna Use Rock. PARTY i love Watching Brock
purtty play because of, anticipation because of, touch his ability
to layer. Throws Brock party does not have a. Cannon
and so it's not about building the body to be
able to like endure more throws or to have a stronger.
ARM a lot of it is the throwing is one.
Piece then the body to be able to play a
season is another. Piece like one of the concerns When
Bryce young was coming out of, college a lot of
teams has was, okay unbelievable. PLAYER i can see all
of these things on. Tape can he Be can he
play twenty plus games for us in a season if
we make a playoff? Run is his body going to
be able to do? That we're not talking about ability
to play. Football we're talking about the ability to keep
playing football games from a durability. Standpoint so WHEN i
look at somebody like Bear, LIKE i first think you
have to just look at the body type in. General
bear has been built different than his brothers ever since
he was a, kid you, know like in high school
he's always had that different frame From hank and From
tiger and so, Okay, well within that, frame now you
have to look and say what is best For? Bear you,
know what is the right weight For? Bear and that's
why there is not one prototypical quarterback. Size it's it's
what is the right weight that he can? Carry well
that then also he can take a beating from because
if he's going to continue to play that style of
football where there's built in quarterback, draws he's going to
take off and run over a. Linebacker, well have to
be built a little. Bit if you're going to be
the guy that's going to do, that.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you create more velocity on your?
Speaker 3: Football how it develop more arm strength as a quarterback
in the off.
Speaker 6: Season, well in the simplest, way you have to evaluate number,
one how much are you getting out of your lower
half in the connection that it has with the. Ground
are you utilizing that connection how you need or are
you missing some of?
Speaker 5: It the next thing is what is the body's ability
to create? Torque especially in football where the pocket sometimes
minimizes the amount of space that you can utilize as
you're trying to use the. Ground, now how much torque
CAN i? Create and then on top of that functional,
strength do my mechanics limit my ability to get all
of the energy into the? Football or AM i mechanically
sound because of my overall functional? Strength WHERE i don't
have body parts out of, SEQUENCE i don't have a
spine angle adjustment or a head slide or a head
tilt or a front arm action that is has has
way too much going on and is trying to find
energy by being? Active CAN i deactivate that front? Arm
and so much of that comes down to the body's
ability to connect from all four of its points and
have that strength that runs. Throughout we're not talking about
just like the ability to move. Weight it's the ability
to be functionally strong in the movements that we're trying
to do in the simplest. Way when all of that
adds up and we don't minimize it by subtracting from,
it that is how we now maximize our arm. Ability
so like our, talent what true arm talent looks like
is all of that being synced up so it looks
and it appears like the quarterback is effortlessly throwing the
ball down the field and he has a great. Arm you,
know you can find somebody that is just going to
muscle a ball down the. FIELD i think of sometimes
when a defensive, lineman just a, big strong individual can
grab that object which is just an oblong shaped one
pound object and they just will muscle it down the.
Field they people, go, well for a defensive, lineman he's
got a really good. Arm quarterbacks can't just muscle throws
to places across the. Field there is way too much
finesse and shaping that has to, happen and the ability
to locate a football and throw it on time and.
Accurately so it's WHEN i can take all of those
pieces and then say AM i getting EVERYTHING i can
out of my? Body that's how you can maximize what
everybody notices as arm, talent.
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown that only you can give the quarterback,
Scientists John, beck if there are listeners out there that have,
sons have, daughters want to train with trained THREE, dqb
how do they do?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: John what do you guys focus?
Speaker 3: On what do you guys, like, say you, know fifteen
year old kid he's getting into his sophomore, season really
wants to know become a more reflined. Quarterback how can
they start training with you?
Speaker 5: Guys, YEAH i mean the best thing is, RIGHT i
have people sometimes they'll, say, hey is there any way
you can do like a video.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: LESSON i mean that there are times THAT i will
have people that, say, HEY i would love to send
you a video to get some. Feedback AND i can
give some, feedback but there's nothing better than in person
BECAUSE i can see what their body is, doing and
THEN i can put them in positions with either certain,
throws certain movements where basically IT'S i will somewhat expose
the things that you need to work, on but that
makes you more aware of who you. Are everything has
to start with. Awareness it's like any change that any
human is trying to go, through whether it's something, physical
whether it's something, emotional, mensals you name, it you first
have to start with an awareness of where you're currently.
At all, RIGHT i can show you and tell you
where you're at and the whys of why you're. Here
now we're going to work on things AND i can
send you home with things That, okay from now until
the next TIME i see. You here are the things
that you need to work, on so that when we
get back here in the same space, again we're building
off of. That and, so LIKE i always tell, people
find a way to come down here for a couple of. Days,
really what you do is you, get you, know a
day one analysis of what's going. On we take a
look at, you and then we start building from there
and we can start to show you here's the direction
that you need to. Go here's some tools of where
we feel like if you implement, these these training, protocols
that you start working on these patterns of, movement these
will help your overall throwing. Ability and now we can
really Build.
Speaker 1: John beck trained three d Qb.
Speaker 3: Uh also last thing B A B a you was
able to finalize their. Staff they got their defensive. Staff,
uh they got. There they were able to retain their
offensive staff at big. Time, kelly our teammate gets to
be the defensive coordinator for B. Yu pretty cool to
see all.
Speaker 5: This, sorry Somehow I'VE i Think i've lost.
Speaker 1: It you got?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 1: Now can you hear? Me? Now? Johnny? Here can you got?
You got? Me all?
Speaker 3: Right we may have lost him all, right that's our,
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Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 5: YEAH i can hear.
Speaker 4: You Good now you turned into a robot.
Speaker 5: THERE i couldn't hear.
Speaker 3: Anything oh my, Gosh, Okay i'm sorry about. That, okay
last thing.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: Uh the coaching staff has been solidified there AT. Byu Kelly,
papinga our, teammate is going to be the defensive.
Speaker 1: Coordinator.
Speaker 3: Uh for those that have not interacted With Kelly, papinga
who IS k?
Speaker 1: Pop and why are you excited to see what he can?
Speaker 5: Do IS?
Speaker 1: Dc?
Speaker 5: Yeah so? Excited? Right like outside of just being a
good friend To, KELLY i, MEAN i JUST i love
the guy's. Intensity it's. FOCUS i, mean he's a suit
guy that WHEN i go to the bou football, GAMES
i love watching his inner actions with the linebackers on the, sideline,
Right like anybody that knows the papinga, family knows the,
focus the, seriousness, right all of those things are are
what they're. About the Thing i'm really excited For, kelly
right is all of the coaches when they invest time
into their craft over the, years it's always with the
intent to build themselves to be a, coordinator, Right, LIKE i, mean,
look there are some coaches that they're comfortable in their position, role,
right and that's. Fine everybody has their space where they feel, like,
hey this is right for. ME i Think kelly probably
fits into that space of the guys where he knows
what he's been trying to build for himself to. Become
AND i think it's so cool that he's getting that
opportunity AT. Yu like my guess Is kelly's, Capabilities kelly's
ability to teach and instruct and get guys to do
that would be valued by a lot of, places and
he's capable of being a coordinator at many. College So
i'm just super happy that it gets to happen there AT,
yu you, KNOW i JUST i think it's going to
be so cool to see how that. Goes and people
also need to, realize, right, like there's probably going to
be a space of time of acclamation, right acclamation by you,
know anytime someone's a new, coordinator, right, like there's just
an acclamation.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 5: Right we're not gonna have something where it's like you
just move From Jay hill and you go to somebody
else and there's no learning. Period. Right it's going to
be the, players it's going to be the, coaches it's
going to be the, staff it's gonna be. Everybody you
wish that it all goes smooth and cool and great and.
Everything that's WHAT i hope for. Everybody but the reality
is when new pieces shuffle in and somebody takes, over, Right,
like they're also going to want to do it their.
Way the gun going to want to have their belief,
systems their, mantras their style of, play and maybe some
of it will be exactly like What Jay hill did
and maybe maybe some of it will be true To,
Kelly and that's what he should. Do he should be
true to himself and try to mimic somebody else like
people respect and players respect when a coach is true
to who he. Is and then that the, defense the defensive,
room it's gonna resemble his personality style on what he's shooting.
For and that's WHY i think it's really cool That
kelly is going to get this. Opportunity.
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