Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's
Speaker 1: and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, It is the one and
Speaker 2: only Tony Tone, the Magician the world with a lot
Speaker 2: of play and as you know, I am a classic man.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to yet another episode of the
Speaker 2: one and only podcast that's worth listening to when it
Speaker 2: comes to golf talking.
Speaker 3: That's Balls and Teas. Man.
Speaker 2: Am I so excited to be here on a Wednesday evening.
Speaker 2: Halting Weather Victoria weather as a whole has been quite
Speaker 2: fantastic lately. A bit of clouds here and there, but
Speaker 2: overall it has been sunny.
Speaker 3: And we are now in.
Speaker 2: April, so this is the first episode of April, and
Speaker 2: I can tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that we've got
Speaker 2: beautiful things coming. Apart from us having launched our video podcast.
Speaker 2: We are joined by someone who is involved in the
Speaker 2: revolution of golf, and I will be introducing him in
Speaker 2: a few minutes. But as you already know the drill,
Speaker 2: before we even get to the cracks of the metal,
Speaker 2: you need to get yourself and ice cold glass of
Speaker 2: water because it's gonna get hot here tonight. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have a lot of fun with our guests, and he
Speaker 2: will be telling us what they are busy with on
Speaker 2: his site. And yeah, as you know, it goes on.
Speaker 2: So ladies and gentlemen, give me a two minute break,
Speaker 2: and then let's quickly make sure that we bring our
Speaker 2: guests in because he's been waiting for us with anticipation.
Speaker 2: He's as excited as I am, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: a lot that he wants to share.
Speaker 3: So let's go for that two minute break and then
Speaker 3: we will be back.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, As I said, today's show
Speaker 2: is going to be heated. I already had one full
Speaker 2: glass of ice cold water and I'm on my second one.
Speaker 2: But let me not delay anymore because our guest has
Speaker 2: been waiting for us, and I can see the man
Speaker 2: is ready to speak and tell us what has been
Speaker 2: happening in space? Please help me. Welcome mister Mike Johnston, Mike.
Speaker 4: Tony, thanks so much for having me. I've got my
Speaker 4: is called water by my side and there's.
Speaker 5: Discussion awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that I was called water is just to
Speaker 2: cool yourself down because there's so much that you want
Speaker 2: to discuss with us of.
Speaker 5: Courndre Listen, Michael.
Speaker 2: So, I tried introducing you, but I don't think that
Speaker 2: I've really done justice to your name. So would you
Speaker 2: mind reintroducing yourself to our audience and then I just
Speaker 2: tell them exactly who you are, what you do, what's
Speaker 2: happening in your space, and then we can get into
Speaker 2: our discussion afterwards.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 4: So my name is Michael Johnston. I have been in
Speaker 4: the golf industry now for three years and I work
Speaker 4: with Gofer Essay. So where it all started for me?
Speaker 4: And I think it's always nice to just give a
Speaker 4: bit of background. So I studied at the University of
Speaker 4: Pretoria and I was doing a becom business management.
Speaker 6: I wasn't quite sure exactly what I was going to
Speaker 6: go into.
Speaker 4: And I ended up doing my honors in marketing, which
Speaker 4: was you know, a lot based on social media and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So straight out of my honors here,
Speaker 4: I went to a social media company and I.
Speaker 6: Found that I enjoyed what I did. I liked social media,
Speaker 6: but I didn't enjoy it as much as the people
Speaker 6: I was working with. They loved it and I liked it.
Speaker 4: So I found that after work, I was just so
Speaker 4: keen to get home and you know, I have a
Speaker 4: little bit of free time, Whereas the people that I
Speaker 4: was working with. It was three girls who were super
Speaker 4: hard working, and after work they were searching Facebook strategies
Speaker 4: and Instagram tips and coming up with suggestions late at night.
Speaker 6: And I just found that I didn't have that spark.
Speaker 6: I didn't have that passion towards social media. So after
Speaker 6: that I went, I took a few months off and
Speaker 6: I went into sales. I was promised the world for
Speaker 6: this job, and it was so different to what I
Speaker 6: had been told.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was basically cold calling and I would be dropped
Speaker 4: off in let's say, wit Bank or Sekunda or wherever
Speaker 4: it is for the day. Sometimes it would be two
Speaker 4: to three hour drive and I would knock on doors
Speaker 4: selling PABX systems, telephones and internet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I did that for about four four months.
Speaker 4: That were probably the four hardest months that I've experienced,
Speaker 4: and one day I just had enough. I was getting
Speaker 4: screamed at every morning. It was basically like the Wolf
Speaker 4: of Wall Street, if I'm honest. And then I took
Speaker 4: a few months off after that, and while I was
Speaker 4: unemployed or in between jobs. However, you want to say,
Speaker 4: one of my friends in the golf industry Michael Farson.
Speaker 5: So he's the.
Speaker 4: At Central Cartoon Golf Union, and for his events, I
Speaker 4: hopped out with the scoring for a while. And I
Speaker 4: mean the scoring was all right, but you know, I
Speaker 4: wanted to really get involved in the golf industry. I've
Speaker 4: been a golfer myself since I was fourteen. I took
Speaker 4: up the game quite late, but I mean I've always like,
Speaker 4: since I started getting into golf, I've like, I get
Speaker 4: obsessed with it, you know. And I was doing the scoring,
Speaker 4: and after that I got into Mike needed me to
Speaker 4: manage under thirteen team at the IP team, and I
Speaker 4: remember I had little background knowledge when it came to
Speaker 4: rules and tournaments and stuff like that. And all the
Speaker 4: managers sat in this meeting and Dave Young, who I
Speaker 4: work with now. Golfer Essay was the tournament director at
Speaker 4: the time, and I remember them talking us through the
Speaker 4: rules and how the tournament's going to work. I really
Speaker 4: had such little knowledge that all I was doing is
Speaker 4: nodding my head in that eating And I remember there
Speaker 4: was a time, I think it was a Day two
Speaker 4: or day three, we were in between holes and Dave
Speaker 4: came up to me on the cart and we had
Speaker 4: a little chat, and I just said, Dave, like, I
Speaker 4: can see how inspired you are about what you do,
Speaker 4: and I would love that, coming from jobs that I
Speaker 4: just didn't quite enjoy it before, I'd like to get
Speaker 4: involved in the golf industry. And Dave said, listen, we
Speaker 4: don't have any openings at golfer Essay at the moment,
Speaker 4: but I will let you know. So I carried on
Speaker 4: with the scoring for a few months, and I remember
Speaker 4: it was but mid December, just before my I got
Speaker 4: an email saying that there was an opening in the
Speaker 4: handicaps department at golf Essay. So from that day on,
Speaker 4: I mean, I went to the interview feel like it
Speaker 4: was probably my best interview that I've done so far,
Speaker 4: just because it came so naturally.
Speaker 5: You know I.
Speaker 4: Sometimes in a job interview you can try to be
Speaker 4: someone that you're not or you're trying to impress people.
Speaker 4: But golf was something that I actually did care about
Speaker 4: and that I was passionate about. So the interview went
Speaker 4: really well. Fast forward three years were here today and
Speaker 4: essentially Golfer, I say, is the you know, the national
Speaker 4: governing body for golf in South Africa, like you have
Speaker 4: the USGA and the RNA, or you have Golf Australia
Speaker 4: with the governing body for South Africa. So I got
Speaker 4: involved first of all with the handicap side of things
Speaker 4: and the course ratings and the slope ratings.
Speaker 6: So that was very cool as a golf for myself.
Speaker 4: I was travel the country playing different courses because one
Speaker 4: of the awesome perps about working in the course rating
Speaker 4: side of things is once you've rated the course, which
Speaker 4: a lot of people confuse with the ranking. We didn't
Speaker 4: rank the golf courses like the top one hundred, but
Speaker 4: we rate the difficulty of the course. And so once
Speaker 4: I got into the course ratings, what's really caused after
Speaker 4: you do the actual rating, you play the course so
Speaker 4: that you can obviously compare notes with the other rats,
Speaker 4: so if we rated the one nine, they rated the
Speaker 4: other nine, we could kind of compare notes and make
Speaker 4: sure that we've got accurate colors.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So I really really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: And as I've progressed, we've introduced a new project that
Speaker 4: came through from the RNA, and it's called Golf Sixers League,
Speaker 4: And essentially we realized that golf are essay that we
Speaker 4: do a lot for the elite player. So you know,
Speaker 4: we're definitely trying to get young golfers into the game
Speaker 4: from a younger age so that they can play at
Speaker 4: that elite level.
Speaker 6: And we want our tournaments to be a level where they.
Speaker 4: Can progress and play, you know, one day on the
Speaker 4: European Tour or the PGA Tour, the world to live,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. But we felt like we weren't quite
Speaker 4: doing enough for the beginner golfer, you know, the player
Speaker 4: that hadn't ever stepped foot on a golf course.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 4: Golf Sixers has been really instrumental in getting beginner players
Speaker 4: from grassroots level who have that intimidation factor and have
Speaker 4: never played golf in their life. It gives them the
Speaker 4: chance to get onto the golf.
Speaker 2: Course that's interesting. Just a quick one there, Mike saw
Speaker 2: Golf Sixes. From my understanding is that you guys are
Speaker 2: trying to involve people who haven't played golf just to
Speaker 2: make sure that they get the right basics and get
Speaker 2: into the sport and enjoy it as much as people
Speaker 2: who have been playing golf. Please correct me if I'm
Speaker 2: wrong there, or perhaps there's something that I'm missing there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think golf has always been seen as this exclusive,
Speaker 6: expensive sports. Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: It makes it difficult for new beginner players to get
Speaker 4: into the game because it's got that intimidation factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what we really wanted to achieve through the Golf
Speaker 4: Sixers League is just to make golf fun again. You
Speaker 4: see in other sports, for example, with crickets, we've been
Speaker 4: now in South Africa, we got the bed Way SA
Speaker 4: twenty and for example, I'm just gonna do cricket as
Speaker 4: an example, but I mean they had they were doing
Speaker 4: test cricket for years and a lot of people, traditional
Speaker 4: cricket fans or traditional cricket players were hesitant to go
Speaker 4: to different formats because that had been the way that
Speaker 4: it had been done.
Speaker 6: For years since the Ashes.
Speaker 4: And as soon as TEA twenty started, you see a
Speaker 4: lot more people getting involved in the game of cricket.
Speaker 4: The sports started to grow, and a lot more people
Speaker 4: started playing, a lot more people started watching. And now
Speaker 4: you'll see that the IPL for example, which is a
Speaker 4: T twenty tournament, that's where all the money's at. So
Speaker 4: we wanted to do something similar with golf sixers and
Speaker 4: just to make the traditional game of golf fun again.
Speaker 4: So we wanted to make it accessible. You know, golf
Speaker 4: is a very very expensive game, Tony. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: mean now you know, a lot of clubs are charging
Speaker 4: within one thousand and ran to go play around a
Speaker 4: golf which the average person can't afford or doesn't want
Speaker 4: to pay. You know, it's only a select few that
Speaker 4: have that kind of money. So golf is a very
Speaker 4: expensive sport, and we wanted to make it accessible. We
Speaker 4: wanted to make it affordable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Team based as well, you know. So what we do
Speaker 4: with the Golf sixers is it works on a Texas
Speaker 4: scramble format.
Speaker 6: So let's say, Tony, you and I are.
Speaker 4: Two junior beginner players, which obviously we're not, but let's
Speaker 4: just pretend.
Speaker 6: And if we were on a team.
Speaker 4: So we would both hit our drives and then we
Speaker 4: would choose the best shot out of our two. Then
Speaker 4: we would both play our second shots from that chosen ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then we would choose the.
Speaker 4: Best second shot and play from there, and that would
Speaker 4: go on. Even on the putting green. We were choose,
Speaker 4: you know, the best part until the ball goes and
Speaker 4: goes in the hole. So that's kind of the format.
Speaker 4: And we wanted to make golf because it's such an
Speaker 4: individualistic sport, we wanted to make a team based and
Speaker 4: I think that's that's really what the Golf Sixers League
Speaker 4: is is all about.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And then and then, so far since the inception of golf,
Speaker 2: sexes has been the intake from the general public.
Speaker 4: So I think with with any project, you know, getting
Speaker 4: it off the ground can be difficult, and people are
Speaker 4: so used to a certain way of doing things. Found
Speaker 4: with so obviously working in the with the World Handicap system.
Speaker 4: When we first brought the World Handicap System into play,
Speaker 4: and so that twenty twenty, we had a lot of
Speaker 4: hesitation because people were so used to the old handicap system.
Speaker 4: And I think once once you start getting a little
Speaker 4: bit of momentum and a few people start relaxing to
Speaker 4: the idea. That's when exciting things happened. So with Golf Sixers,
Speaker 4: initially it was it was difficult. We had a lot
Speaker 4: of clubs that were very hesitant to host events because
Speaker 4: you know, they had no proof of concept, they hadn't
Speaker 4: seen it work before. And you know, since I think
Speaker 4: we started our first Golf sixers event was it was
Speaker 4: the beginning of July in twenty twenty three, and so
Speaker 4: it's been going on for just over a year half
Speaker 4: and so far we've we've introduced about eight hundred golfers
Speaker 4: to the game of golf. So our main goal with
Speaker 4: that is getting those beginners into the game so that
Speaker 4: they don't have that intimidation factor, so that they can
Speaker 4: play with other beginner golfers and eventually, you know, those
Speaker 4: players can become a member of a club and get
Speaker 4: a handicap index and start to love the game that.
Speaker 6: We all love.
Speaker 2: And I think what you guys are doing is actually
Speaker 2: very key because I mean, if Golf six's main objective
Speaker 2: is to attract new players into the spot, which is
Speaker 2: what everybody wants to see the spot growing, Getting new
Speaker 2: players in the market. I really really think it's that
Speaker 2: it's a nice deal and like you're saying, once somebody
Speaker 2: gets the whold of things, they can then start being
Speaker 2: affiliated with certain clubs, which is I think the most
Speaker 2: intimidating thing for people to say, I want to start
Speaker 2: playing golf, but do I necessarily have to have a
Speaker 2: membership from the get go. So what golf SEXSS is
Speaker 2: doing from what I'm gathering, is that you guys want
Speaker 2: to bring people into the game, let them enjoy and
Speaker 2: make sure that it's fun. It becomes a team spot
Speaker 2: instead of an individually based sport. So big ups to
Speaker 2: you guys for doing that. But now I would like
Speaker 2: to find out right you mentioned that you are with
Speaker 2: Golf RSA and golf Our say you've been part of it.
Speaker 2: You guys came up with the concept of golf secses.
Speaker 2: But from obviously golf ours and being well established and
Speaker 2: golf sex is being a product there of how have
Speaker 2: they been is how have golf been instrumental in making
Speaker 2: sure that golf clubs participate in what the golf sixes
Speaker 2: are doing?
Speaker 4: So I think also the golfes say name has quite
Speaker 4: a lot of credibility behind it, so you know, we
Speaker 4: do a lot for the golf clubs and we're always
Speaker 4: trying to improve and we're always trying to do more
Speaker 4: and to make the sport enjoyable, to grow the sport,
Speaker 4: and we really you know.
Speaker 6: Essentially it's like a rules official.
Speaker 4: Like rules officials, a lot of people get the wrong
Speaker 4: idea and they think that they are to get you, and.
Speaker 6: You know, their job is really to help the player.
Speaker 4: And our job, as golf say, is to help the
Speaker 4: golf clubs and to make their life easier.
Speaker 6: So I think.
Speaker 4: What we try to do with the Golf Sixers League
Speaker 4: is work with the golf clubs. So you know, you
Speaker 4: don't want to sell this idea of golf sixers lead
Speaker 4: to the club and there's nothing in it for the club.
Speaker 4: So we do make sure that the club is at
Speaker 4: least remunerated for some of their green fees that they
Speaker 4: might have lost. Because golf sixers works with six holes,
Speaker 4: so it's a six hole routing. And obviously most courses,
Speaker 4: especially you know, I'm from joe Burg, so most courses
Speaker 4: in joe Burg got eighteen old courses. So to find
Speaker 4: a routing, it can be difficult sometimes to find an
Speaker 4: exact routing that starts and ends at the club house,
Speaker 4: that is six holes, and we found that when we
Speaker 4: first started it, we would let's say, we would go
Speaker 4: from the frontis, which is usually the red teas, but
Speaker 4: because it was beginner players, even that was far too
Speaker 4: long and we were promoting Golf Sixer's League has been
Speaker 4: something that's that's fast paced and exciting. But you know,
Speaker 4: players were taking over three hours to play six holes.
Speaker 6: So what we needed to do is we.
Speaker 4: Went back to the drawing board and we said, okay,
Speaker 4: we need to make this course so that it's not
Speaker 4: a drag for the players, it's not too long for them,
Speaker 4: and they still get excited. You know, you don't want
Speaker 4: a player making a ten on every hole, so we
Speaker 4: do have a maxi limit of ten shots. But what
Speaker 4: we did is we made the holes let's say for
Speaker 4: a path three, it would be on average about one
Speaker 4: hundred meters. Our powers would start from close to one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty marker and our part fives close to
Speaker 4: two hundred.
Speaker 6: So we would set our own mind beckers closer to
Speaker 6: the green.
Speaker 4: And then that made sure that you know, our Golf
Speaker 4: Sixers events were a lot quicker and the kids were
Speaker 4: staying engaged because as a kid, if you do something
Speaker 4: for a long time, you know, you can get distracted
Speaker 4: so easily.
Speaker 6: So we wanted to make it as quick as possible.
Speaker 4: And I think what's been really really key is getting
Speaker 4: the parents involved. Yeah, so the parents often come with
Speaker 4: and they'll come on a golf cart, and we encourage
Speaker 4: parents to come to our Golf Sixers League events because
Speaker 4: you know, they get to spend a bit of time
Speaker 4: with their kid and their kids are having fun playing
Speaker 4: with their friends or playing with new players. And the
Speaker 4: parents often help with the scoring and you know, coaching
Speaker 4: their kid when they get a little bit down or
Speaker 4: a bit frustrated, and that really, you know, it makes
Speaker 4: it fun for the players and the parents.
Speaker 2: M I know, And just another question there, Mike, I
Speaker 2: just want to find out when it comes to intake,
Speaker 2: what would you say is the crucial age for someone
Speaker 2: who would like to join go sixts league?
Speaker 3: What from what year do you take them in and
Speaker 3: up to what year?
Speaker 4: So in terms of age, we are targeting so because
Speaker 4: it's an RNA initiative and the RNA seemed Juniors is
Speaker 4: the best way of getting people into the sport.
Speaker 6: We target.
Speaker 4: You know, I guess your junior players would be anyone
Speaker 4: under the age of eighteen years okay, and obviously you're
Speaker 4: you're you're really young players. It's it's awesome to see
Speaker 4: your five and six year old, those tiny kids just
Speaker 4: swinging a golf.
Speaker 6: Club with their little tiger clubs. You know, it's awesome
Speaker 6: seeing that and how excited they get when because we
Speaker 6: don't do prizes.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: Because it's not the focus is not to worry so
Speaker 4: much about your sports, to start enjoying the game of golf.
Speaker 4: So we just give everyone a medal at the end
Speaker 4: of each event and just to see, like a you know,
Speaker 4: a five to eight year olds, the smile on their
Speaker 4: face when they get that medal at the end is
Speaker 4: so fulfilling.
Speaker 6: But having said.
Speaker 4: That, you know, we've had we've had sixteen seventeen year
Speaker 4: olds at our event who have absolutely loved it. And
Speaker 4: I think, you know, perhaps before before they were just
Speaker 4: a little bit scared to get involved in the game
Speaker 4: of golf because they didn't want to look.
Speaker 6: Like a beginner. They didn't want.
Speaker 4: To be the one that's holding up the field. So yeah,
Speaker 4: we encourage anyone, I guess under the age of eighteen,
Speaker 4: any junior who is a beginner or has a handicap
Speaker 4: of over.
Speaker 6: Thirty six to get involved in the Golf Sixers.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's beautiful, And I just want to find out
Speaker 2: from you, as part of the team that actually organizes
Speaker 2: our plans Golf Secers League, what has been the most
Speaker 2: memorable moment for you since you started working on this project.
Speaker 6: We do a.
Speaker 4: Lot of work with the South African Golf Development Board
Speaker 4: and Golfer I say, do a lot of work with
Speaker 4: the South African Golf Development Board also known as the SAGDB.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the s a GDB.
Speaker 4: For those who don't know, gives opportunities to players from
Speaker 4: underprivileged backgrounds and gives them a chance in life and
Speaker 4: it gives them a chance to play golf from a
Speaker 4: grassroots level. So with the Golf Sixers, we've got our
Speaker 4: Golf sixers events that we do on occasion. We usually
Speaker 4: look to do those during the school holidays. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: year around, we also collaborate with the SAGDB and we
Speaker 4: have s a GDB Golf Sixers leagues. Oh well, Now
Speaker 4: these are tailored to all those underprivileged players, players who
Speaker 4: might not get the chance and we look at those
Speaker 4: very beginner players. So we have inside Africa, we have
Speaker 4: fourteen golf unions. Okay, so within the SAGDB, we've got
Speaker 4: a manager for each region. So what we've done is
Speaker 4: each manager runs their own SAGDB Golf Sixers league in
Speaker 4: the in the region and we've we've given so many
Speaker 4: opportunities to players who wouldn't necessarily have the ability to
Speaker 4: play golf if it wasn't for the golf sixers leagues. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's been Yeah, that's been really really crucial and
Speaker 4: I think that's been the most rewarding part of golf sixers.
Speaker 6: So one of our one of our.
Speaker 4: O that we gave to For example, we had a
Speaker 4: league in Pumlanga, SAGDB Sixers League in a Pumlanga and
Speaker 4: I mean Leopard Creek, as most of you will know,
Speaker 4: is the number one course in South Africa.
Speaker 6: I was privileged enough.
Speaker 4: To go there for the first time in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: So what we did is for our golf sixers league
Speaker 4: that we had going on in malalan Is, we said
Speaker 4: the top two teams could go play at the par
Speaker 4: three course at Leppard Creek.
Speaker 6: So we had two teams each of six.
Speaker 4: Players, and we had a full golf sixers event there
Speaker 4: at the par three course, and it was just awesome
Speaker 4: to see the smiles on their faces. What we've also
Speaker 4: done is for the Open recently, which is at Urban
Speaker 4: Country Club, we brought similarly, we had two of our
Speaker 4: teams from case it In that came first in their league,
Speaker 4: and they walked with some of the players during the program.
Speaker 4: So we had six players that walked with Charles Schwartzel
Speaker 4: and his group, and then we had another six players
Speaker 4: who walked with Casey Jarvis and their group. And afterwards
Speaker 4: they had a little short game clinic with Volco Ninaba
Speaker 4: and Rupert Kaminski. And for them, I mean, they absolutely
Speaker 4: loved it. And Volco and Rupert were amazing, you know
Speaker 4: they were They said, like, I'm not giving out any.
Speaker 6: High fives unless you guys smile. They said, like golf,
Speaker 6: golf is supposed.
Speaker 4: To be you know, I think the kids were at first,
Speaker 4: and he said, golf is supposed to be a fun game. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not supposed to be taken so seriously, and they
Speaker 4: made it so fun for all the kids involved. And
Speaker 4: I think just seeing the impact that it had on
Speaker 4: their lives. Is that's the most rewarding part about what
Speaker 4: I do and what we do through the Gulf Sexers.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Now, I just want to ask you, Mike.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's tournaments everywhere. You just mentioned that when
Speaker 2: you mentioned longer for you as a part of the team.
Speaker 2: What are some of the logistical aspects involved in managing
Speaker 2: and administering all these leagues across the country. I mean,
Speaker 2: how do you go about making sure that you've got
Speaker 2: the energy and you're always on time and you make
Speaker 2: sure that things flow all over the country.
Speaker 4: So to have the energy all the time can be difficult,
Speaker 4: But I mean I think from a logistical point of view,
Speaker 4: the way that we try to run it, especially with
Speaker 4: the SAGDB Golf sixers leagues, is we give because the
Speaker 4: SAGDB manager knows his players and he knows his regions
Speaker 4: so well, we give him the authority to and the
Speaker 4: freedom for him to run the league in a way
Speaker 4: that works best for him and his players. So each
Speaker 4: manager comes up with their own golf sixers league and
Speaker 4: after each game they submit all the scores and then
Speaker 4: my job is to on the back end and you know,
Speaker 4: put in all the scores board and send it back
Speaker 4: to the players. And in terms of our golf sixers events,
Speaker 4: we started and most of our events have been in
Speaker 4: Central Karteng, So from a logistical point of view, one
Speaker 4: of our big plans is expansion. Yeah, and our aim
Speaker 4: at the moment is to get the proof of concept
Speaker 4: and to have the process so nailed down that once
Speaker 4: we've had all these events in Central Karteng, we can
Speaker 4: almost choose the specific role player in each region and
Speaker 4: expand the project throughout South Africa. But as you know,
Speaker 4: starting something, it starts off small, yeah, but you have
Speaker 4: to You just have to keep working on it and
Speaker 4: keep working on it and eventually, you know, it blows up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think it goes with time.
Speaker 2: Like you said, I mean, it's only about a year
Speaker 2: and a half and you've got over eight hundred people
Speaker 2: enrolled with Class six Sleeku, which is close to one
Speaker 2: person signing up a day. So I think you guys
Speaker 2: are doing a great job and I look forward to
Speaker 2: seeing more of these tournaments around South Africa. I look
Speaker 2: forward to see more juniors being involved in the fact
Speaker 2: that you're trying to incorporate a family friendly environment where
Speaker 2: the parents are also asked to also party and make
Speaker 2: sure that the kids are enjoying what they do. So
Speaker 2: what the product that you guys haven't I don't want
Speaker 2: to lie. It is quite a phenomenal product, and I
Speaker 2: wish it came through Alia like in the early two
Speaker 2: thousands because if that was the case, I believe that
Speaker 2: we would have created more and more proper golfers within
Speaker 2: South Africa. But with that being that, Mica, can we
Speaker 2: go for a two minute break and then when we
Speaker 2: get back, I just want to put you on the
Speaker 2: spot a bit and make sure that I frustrate you
Speaker 2: with some of the questions that I haven't.
Speaker 3: Learned for you.
Speaker 6: I'm kid, Let's do it.
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: There won't be hectic questions, but it's more around the
Speaker 2: sport itself, to say how have you seen the sports
Speaker 2: grow over the years? And then you mentioned that you
Speaker 2: started at fourteen, and I believe that something must expect
Speaker 2: you to actually start. So when we come back, let's
Speaker 2: get into that. Let's find out where your golf is
Speaker 2: sitting and then let's see where golf sixty sleek is
Speaker 2: also hitting.
Speaker 5: Let's do it, Tony awesome stuff.
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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it is yet another another beautiful session
Speaker 2: you head from the get go. Now we're getting into
Speaker 2: our second segment where we put people on the spot,
Speaker 2: and I have to say, Mike has just been like
Speaker 2: he's just killing.
Speaker 5: All the questions that I have.
Speaker 3: Now I'm out of questions.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna ask you, but I
Speaker 2: will find a way to make sure that I put
Speaker 2: the men on the spot. So listen, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: If you do not know who is joining us today,
Speaker 2: it is Mike Johnston who is part of RSA and
Speaker 2: he plays a crucial role when it comes to the
Speaker 2: Golf Sixters League, which is tarketed at new players, new golfers,
Speaker 2: people who are interested in golfing, especially juniors. Anyone from
Speaker 2: the age of five to eighteen years is allowed to
Speaker 2: come through. So the whole idea is to make sure
Speaker 2: that golf is fun and also encourage the mindset of
Speaker 2: being a team player, because, like Mike explained, we tea
Speaker 2: often then we choose the best lie te T shirt
Speaker 2: and then we move on so and so. So ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, let me not take too much time, and
Speaker 2: now let's bring back mister Mike Johnston. Underline, Mike is
Speaker 2: still with us.
Speaker 6: I'm still here.
Speaker 4: I still.
Speaker 2: I think I need to refeel when it comes to that,
Speaker 2: but I'll do it later on. So Mike, like I
Speaker 2: said in our second segment, this is you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, people always like saying people are being roasted.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is the rooster.
Speaker 2: I would say that this is the grill because it's cool,
Speaker 2: We're going to have a lot of fun, and it's
Speaker 2: general questions. I don't think there's anything out of the ordinaria.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about Let's talk about you as a golfer.
Speaker 2: You started at the age of fourteen, but what spocked
Speaker 2: you to actually get into golf at that time?
Speaker 4: So for me, I actually was as I said earlier,
Speaker 4: I get obsessed with things, and.
Speaker 6: For my first obsession was actually cricket.
Speaker 4: And I remember so I actually lived in for those
Speaker 4: who don't know, I lived in Tanzania for you, when
Speaker 4: I was in grade three, so up until about the
Speaker 4: age of eight, and when I came back, everyone was
Speaker 4: playing sports and everyone, all the cool kids, all the
Speaker 4: kids that I wanted.
Speaker 6: To be friends with, were playing crickets.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And one of the one of.
Speaker 4: Those people actually also named Tony, Tony Desorsi, who now
Speaker 4: is opening batsman for the Proteas. And I just remember
Speaker 4: I watched Tony and I was like, this guy is
Speaker 4: so cool. Yeah, and I just I loved watching him
Speaker 4: bats and I was like, man, I really want to
Speaker 4: I want to be like like Tony. And yeah, I
Speaker 4: took up cricket and that was my first thought. That
Speaker 4: was my first love. Then at about fourteen, I went
Speaker 4: to the driving range with my grandfather and my grandpa's
Speaker 4: been playing golf for sure over sixty years. My grandpa's
Speaker 4: Eddy nine and he.
Speaker 6: Still plays golf now or for I think he's about
Speaker 6: a twenty handicap. Yeah, And he took me to the
Speaker 6: driving range and he tried to get me interested in it,
Speaker 6: and I just, Tony, can I be honest, I didn't
Speaker 6: enjoy it. Yeah, And I didn't have that initial attraction
Speaker 6: like I did for cricket. And then yeah, I remember,
Speaker 6: it usually happens when you go with a friend. So
Speaker 6: what happens for me, because I'm quite a competitive person
Speaker 6: by nature. I'd made a really good friend through cricket
Speaker 6: when I got back from Tanzania in grade three, and
Speaker 6: he was playing golf, but I didn't I didn't really
Speaker 6: know how much golf he was playing. And we went
Speaker 6: to the driving range when and this was after I,
Speaker 6: you know, golf isn't for me, went to the driving
Speaker 6: range with him and his dad and he was hitting
Speaker 6: the ball about two hundred and twenty meters or two
Speaker 6: hundred and forty meters, and I thought, wow, like it's
Speaker 6: going to take me a long time to now compete
Speaker 6: with this guy. But it burnt a little bit of
Speaker 6: a fire in me, and I was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 6: now I need to prove that I can at least
Speaker 6: hit it past one hundred meter marker, you know.
Speaker 4: And I remember his dad came to me that day
Speaker 4: and he said, if you can get it past the
Speaker 4: one hundred meter marker, we'll go play nine holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh lovely.
Speaker 6: And I swung as hard as I could.
Speaker 4: I think it probably took me about one hundred balls tony,
Speaker 4: but I got it done.
Speaker 6: I got it just past one hundred meter marker.
Speaker 4: And that day we went to go play nine LS
Speaker 4: at Daneford.
Speaker 5: Oh that's nice, man, And I think.
Speaker 4: It's just once you play golf on you once you
Speaker 4: experience it on the course. For me, I'm still someone
Speaker 4: who I can't stand the driving range. I will only
Speaker 4: go there if if I'm critical but stable with my
Speaker 4: golf or anyone. Yeah, but normally, you know, I'm one
Speaker 4: of those players where I can have a terrible round
Speaker 4: on the range. I can well a terrible time on
Speaker 4: the range, and I can have shanks and it just
Speaker 4: doesn't go well, and then go out onto the course
Speaker 4: and you know, I have one of my best rounds.
Speaker 4: Yet It's just I think I see the game so
Speaker 4: differently when I'm playing versus when I'm on the driving range.
Speaker 4: So once I got that opportunity need to actually get
Speaker 4: onto the court, then I fol absolutely.
Speaker 2: And I mean like, I like the fact that you're
Speaker 2: very honest to say at first I really enjoyed it
Speaker 2: at all. And then uh, going there with your friend
Speaker 2: it did something to you from a competitive nature to say, listen,
Speaker 2: this man cannot hit balls further than me. I'm going
Speaker 2: to challenge myself to actually do better. And I think
Speaker 2: you actually hitting that one hundred meter mark.
Speaker 5: It's what.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's interesting to me to say, what feeling did
Speaker 2: you get after getting it right and making sure that
Speaker 2: you hit that ball so far? How did you feel
Speaker 2: within yourself and what's the first thing that came to
Speaker 2: mind afterwards.
Speaker 4: It's a cliche in the golfing community, but there's always
Speaker 4: that one shot that brings you back. And even if
Speaker 4: you have the worst round of your life, there's always
Speaker 4: that one good shot that you hit and you think,
Speaker 4: you think at the end of the of your round, like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm done with this game.
Speaker 6: I'm going to sell my clubs.
Speaker 4: I've had enough, And on the last hole you will
Speaker 4: have one shot that you didn't quite.
Speaker 6: Expect that was, you know, a pro could hit.
Speaker 4: And then you go you go home and you like
Speaker 4: and someone will say do you want to play golf tomorrow?
Speaker 6: And you're like, yeah, yeah, cool, what's out of time?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I think there's always that one shot.
Speaker 4: And I remember that first round that I played, Obviously
Speaker 4: getting it past one hundred meter marker was a big
Speaker 4: step for me at the time. And then when I
Speaker 4: played I actually I remember it was it was a
Speaker 4: sixth hole, it was an eighty meter PAT three and
Speaker 4: I took out a driver because obviously, you know, ever
Speaker 4: at that point was on the same day and it
Speaker 4: was one hundred meters so to card of driver.
Speaker 6: I hit it on the green.
Speaker 4: That was the first green i'd ever hit, my first
Speaker 4: birdie pat I ever had, and I sunk the birdie pat.
Speaker 6: So my first round of golf ever I had.
Speaker 4: A birdie, which which yeah, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 4: got praised so much by my friend and his dad.
Speaker 4: I think he was a little bit jealous. But that
Speaker 4: was that really made me go, okay, cool, let me
Speaker 4: give this a go.
Speaker 2: It's quite interesting because I mean, like, like you said,
Speaker 2: your first round of golf, you hit a birdie, and
Speaker 2: I would presume that's like the one of the most
Speaker 2: memorable moments you've had on the golf course, Tony.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't birdy that whole often anymore, so it must
Speaker 4: have been a complete fluke. But it brought me back
Speaker 4: to the game, like you can't.
Speaker 3: Believe, no, no, no, lovely.
Speaker 2: And then for you, so far since you started playing,
Speaker 2: what has been the most challenging aspect of your golf.
Speaker 4: To be honest, the mental game is by far the
Speaker 4: most difficult, and I think you see it on the
Speaker 4: pro tour as well. I'm currently playing probably the best
Speaker 4: golf that I've played so far. I'm currently a scratch
Speaker 4: handicap and it's taken me. I have been scratched before,
Speaker 4: but it's taken me a long long time to get
Speaker 4: back here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think what the difference was is letting
Speaker 6: go of that self doubt on the golf course, because
Speaker 6: often I would get that. You know, I'd play scratch
Speaker 6: league or for any sort of tournament, and my mindset
Speaker 6: was so different compared to when I was playing with
Speaker 6: my friends. I had this unnecessary pressure that I had
Speaker 6: built on myself and you almost get that. Well.
Speaker 4: I mean, in my case, I had imposter syndrome. On
Speaker 4: the golf course where I was playing, maybe offered to
Speaker 4: handicap at the time, and all of a sudden, people
Speaker 4: on the first.
Speaker 6: T go, oh, too, handicap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your first shout out of bounds and already you
Speaker 4: feel like you've got something to prove the whole day.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And when I hit a bad shot, I was getting very,
Speaker 6: very frustrated with myself and what I've done recently in
Speaker 6: the last few years.
Speaker 4: Which has really really helped me in tournament players, just
Speaker 4: to take the context out of it. Yeah, so as
Speaker 4: a kid, I mean, and you know, going into a
Speaker 4: few years ago, actually, when I had a pat Let's
Speaker 4: had a pack for par, I was almost telling myself
Speaker 4: a story about how important this pat would be to
Speaker 4: sink in my head. And I was saying, oh, this
Speaker 4: is a part pat. You don't want to miss this
Speaker 4: because then you go to three over par. And you know,
Speaker 4: I was making this big build up rather than focusing
Speaker 4: on what was in front of me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what I've what I've been doing recently, sorry to interrupt,
Speaker 4: is I make sure And I got this advice from
Speaker 4: one of my friends, Chris Long, who is a brilliant golfer,
Speaker 4: very very good golfer currently playing on bush Fold.
Speaker 6: He's played a few Sunshine to events and he often
Speaker 6: caddies for me at Club Champs, which is a huge
Speaker 6: advantage over the other players. What he said to me
Speaker 6: is when you.
Speaker 4: Just focus on getting the best stroke and how you're
Speaker 4: going to get the ball to where you wanted to go,
Speaker 4: focus on your line and focus on how.
Speaker 6: You're going to get it there. And as soon as
Speaker 6: I started taking that story.
Speaker 4: Out of it, I found that I was thinking more
Speaker 4: puts and on the tea box. I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 4: where the danger was. I was, you know, looking at
Speaker 4: where I wanted to go. So even if I made
Speaker 4: a joke and said, oh, don't want to go and
Speaker 4: the trees on the.
Speaker 6: Right again like yesterday, he would say Rabbish like, what trees?
Speaker 4: You know you aim in the left side of the
Speaker 4: fairway with a little cut, and that's your target. And
Speaker 4: as soon as you you know, as soon as that
Speaker 4: self doubt started, and it still comes, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: lie to you, but as soon as you can work
Speaker 4: with that self doubt and and try to get a
Speaker 4: positive thought before you hit the golf ball, try to
Speaker 4: go in to each shot with the best mindset possible,
Speaker 4: your golf really does.
Speaker 2: Transform no one. Now, I just want to find out.
Speaker 2: My earlier on you mentioned that one of your roles
Speaker 2: throughout golf RSA career was to review golf courses. Now,
Speaker 2: of all the golf courses that you've played in, which
Speaker 2: one would you say showed you a challenge? And would
Speaker 2: you even go back to that same course again and
Speaker 2: try your your best with it again?
Speaker 6: For me, it's let the creek.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't me.
Speaker 4: I know, I know that it's it's number one in
Speaker 4: the country, and I promise you I'm not getting paid
Speaker 4: to say this.
Speaker 6: Because it is. But that of course is built different.
Speaker 6: It is an experience. From the moment that you get
Speaker 6: through through the Malolan Gate, Leopard Creek is a story
Speaker 6: on its own. That golf course.
Speaker 4: I mean from the first hole, you've got the leopard statue,
Speaker 4: and there's a leopard statue somewhere on each hole, and
Speaker 4: it's a story of the day in the life of
Speaker 4: a leopard.
Speaker 6: And I absolutely love that. I think it's it's so called,
Speaker 6: it's such an experience.
Speaker 4: And besides even the experience of it, just the way
Speaker 4: that that golf course is designed and the way that
Speaker 4: it's manicured. I don't think that you could get a
Speaker 4: golf course in South Africa that actually compares. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: also in difficulty mm hmm. That golf course ate me up.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know is that it's
Speaker 4: also closer to sea level than you think. So I
Speaker 4: was expecting to hit the ball a lot further when
Speaker 4: I went to left the creek and it didn't go.
Speaker 4: It didn't go like that. I was hitting a lot
Speaker 4: of golf ball short.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but what an experience.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's if I ever get the opportunity to
Speaker 4: go play that golf course again, if I'm ever lucky enough, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm keen to take it on again and take it
Speaker 4: in my stride.
Speaker 2: Mike, we are approaching the end of the segment, but
Speaker 2: I just want to find out from you man.
Speaker 3: Now we re to golf taxas leak right.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that the most ideal position that you guys
Speaker 2: want to find yourselves in is to have a large
Speaker 2: footprint across the country, just to make sure that everyone
Speaker 2: starts getting involved in the spot.
Speaker 3: But with that being said, I.
Speaker 2: Just want to find out how how would actually people
Speaker 2: get hold of golf success or be a part of
Speaker 2: golf success. What processes are there to take and how
Speaker 2: do they actually contact you guys.
Speaker 6: So on.
Speaker 4: On our website, we do have a bit of information
Speaker 4: when it comes to Golf Secers League. We are currently
Speaker 4: looking to redesign our website. We've started doing a lot
Speaker 4: more social media posts when it comes to golf sixers,
Speaker 4: So I think the best way would would probably be
Speaker 4: to reach out directly my email address is Michael Johnston
Speaker 4: at golfer sat. If you want to get a bit
Speaker 4: more information about the Golf Sixers League and what it's about,
Speaker 4: you can go to our website golfers a dot or
Speaker 4: you know, follow us on social media. And what we're
Speaker 4: looking to do now is also through the use of TikTok.
Speaker 6: We've started using that for promotion of more of our Golf.
Speaker 4: Sixers leagues because you know, I think that's where we're
Speaker 4: going to find a lot more of the youth and
Speaker 4: those beginner players and those players who aren't golfers but
Speaker 4: would be open to the idea of getting involved in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: And then, lastly, before I let you go, Mike, as
Speaker 2: a project manager for Golf Sixers, is there any changes
Speaker 2: that you actually would like to see coming up in
Speaker 2: the near future within whether it be the structure of
Speaker 2: the league itself, whether it be certain rules within the
Speaker 2: league itself. Is there any just that you believe need
Speaker 2: to be taken into consideration to actually make sure that
Speaker 2: it sticks to its coviator, which is to increase the
Speaker 2: number of players and make sure that golf is more
Speaker 2: fun than people actually perceive it to be.
Speaker 6: I think we.
Speaker 4: Want to definitely expand, and like anything, if you do
Speaker 4: the same thing over and over, you get stagnant. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think I could pinpoint one thing and each
Speaker 4: and every event. We're learning, and we're growing and we
Speaker 4: want to make it better. So we are so open
Speaker 4: to feedback from players, from parents, from golfers themselves, and
Speaker 4: I think the next step is just to to grow
Speaker 4: it so that people really do start seeing the value
Speaker 4: in getting beginners into the game and making the game
Speaker 4: more accessible, more fun, more affordable.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, Mike, I just want to
Speaker 2: extend a large, a huge, huge thank you to you
Speaker 2: to say thank you for joining us today and thank
Speaker 2: you to everyone around you who's allowed you this time
Speaker 2: to join us. Thank you to Golf RSA for being
Speaker 2: incremental in the development of golf in South Africa and
Speaker 2: making sure that all golf clubs are bide by the
Speaker 2: rules that's been set out by the necessary committees. Thank
Speaker 2: you to Golf Success for actually saying, you know what,
Speaker 2: we need more younger players in the spot. Let's find
Speaker 2: a way to make sure that as much as we
Speaker 2: incorporate or we integrate younger players, we make sure that
Speaker 2: it still stays fun and relevant for them because as
Speaker 2: a child, you want to do things with your friends
Speaker 2: and much more than you actually want to do things alone.
Speaker 2: So I love that you guys have structured it in
Speaker 2: a way that even if it's an individual spot, there's
Speaker 2: that team element and the fact that you can choose
Speaker 2: the best balls. I mean, it creates that competition environment,
Speaker 2: but in a healthy manner. So big ups to you
Speaker 2: and the team for actually doing all of this. And yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing U ten pro or going
Speaker 2: to on the amateur tollement because your scratch goal for
Speaker 2: your as good as the plus the plus twos and
Speaker 2: the plus three is day.
Speaker 6: I don't know about that, Tony. There's the reason why
Speaker 6: I work in the industry as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I love my golf and this
Speaker 4: conversation has been so cool.
Speaker 6: It's been so nice getting to know you.
Speaker 4: You are such an awesome host, and I love what
Speaker 4: you guys are doing for the game of golf as well.
Speaker 4: You know, I think having these conversations and making golf
Speaker 4: more human again is what it's all about.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent, mister Johnston. And as I said.
Speaker 2: A big, big, big ups to you and everyone around
Speaker 2: you for giving us this opportunity. And for me, this
Speaker 2: conversation has been an eye opener because I didn't really
Speaker 2: understand how golf success work, but after you explained it,
Speaker 2: it makes better sense. And I have to say this
Speaker 2: out loud every single individual that's listening now, and every
Speaker 2: single individual who has a child playing different sports, it's
Speaker 2: never too late to try and enroll your child for golf.
Speaker 2: Like Mike said, he started going to the driving range
Speaker 2: with his grandfather and it wasn't fun. But when he
Speaker 2: went with his friend and the dead friend the friends dead,
Speaker 2: it was a lovely experience because there was a challenge
Speaker 2: presented to him and he had to go for it.
Speaker 2: So I have to say once again, Mike, have a
Speaker 2: lovely one and thank you. Please continue doing what you're
Speaker 2: doing golf golf successes. I believe that we will be
Speaker 2: seeing an influx of more and more young golfers, and
Speaker 2: obviously the whole idea is to make sure that we
Speaker 2: create professionals and we create professions within the industry to
Speaker 2: make sure that the sport continues to live on.
Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Toney, it was an awesome experience.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, you must have a lovely one, sir,
Speaker 2: same to you, Toney, all right, child, all right, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, it is the end of our segment today
Speaker 2: and I have to say what an insightful conversation with
Speaker 2: Mike Johnston, who is the project manager for Golf Success League.
Speaker 2: And guys, please, whoever you are out there, let's get
Speaker 2: our children. Let's get our youth into the sport because
Speaker 2: it is such a lovely sport. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: core values that one can develop, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: networking that takes place, and it is a family ronment,
Speaker 2: family friendly environment where parents can actually play with their
Speaker 2: kids as well. So please let's continue pushing the sport itself.
Speaker 2: You're preaching the sport to whommever that we know who
Speaker 2: doesn't play the sport, because from me to you, I
Speaker 2: have to tell you even myself, my first day on
Speaker 2: the Dravage was not the most love list, but with
Speaker 2: the competition around me, because there was about twenty six
Speaker 2: other kids around me who started playing golf the same
Speaker 2: time that I did, it drove me to actually want
Speaker 2: to improve on a daily basis. So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: with that being said, I have to say audios, I
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Speaker 2: balls and tees and please share the word. Make sure
Speaker 2: that we create noise about golf. There is nothing that's
Speaker 2: better than golf. Like I always say, if you're working tomorrow,
Speaker 2: please go to work, do what you have to do.
Speaker 2: But for those who are not working tomorrow, be on
Speaker 2: the golf course. And then if you work on Friday,
Speaker 2: then I need to intervene because Friday, Saturday, Sunday it's
Speaker 2: golf day. Monday to Wednesday it's work time. For those
Speaker 2: who are working on Thursday. Don't quote me, but you've
Speaker 2: got to do something and start playing more golf. With
Speaker 2: that being said, ladies and gentlemen, the magician, the boy
Speaker 2: with a lot of Flair, I am Tony Tone and
Speaker 2: I am signing out thank you.
Speaker 1: In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, wait, Berdie
Speaker 1: and Banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green, the balls, and
Speaker 1: t's your passport to the golfing universe where every swing
Speaker 1: tells a story and every part has its punchline. Get
Speaker 1: ready to step onto the large greens and dive into
Speaker 1: the world of divets, drives and delightful better