Speaker 1: Greedy societations. Everyone at twelve s amok and Fantasy Baseball Live.
Speaker 1: Today is March first. We have turned out of awful
Speaker 1: February and it's cold weather now, it's a cold weather March.
Speaker 1: But we are twenty ten, twenty six days away from
Speaker 1: the first first pitch thrown an anchor for our season.
Speaker 1: Is that about right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That seems bold. Right. We got the WC coming
Speaker 2: up too, so we're gonna have lots. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: lots to watch. I mean you're speaking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the dismal cold of February. Last night here was minus
Speaker 2: thirty one.
Speaker 1: It's warmed up a tad here. That's cold, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's formed up a tad here. We had a little
Speaker 1: bit of snowfloirries this morning. But I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: sixty five next weekend, so I'm hoping that that punk
Speaker 1: satotly Phil has finally gotten back into his little hole
Speaker 1: and we can get spring on the way.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you couldn't pick a better way to
Speaker 2: celebrate your upcoming birthday than that concert Saturday and Saturday.
Speaker 2: Now you're a Sunday night. Good for you.
Speaker 1: That's my birthday. That's not my birthday, mold friends, that's
Speaker 1: just a date.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I still got something for my birthday yet. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find out what is.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Yeah, well, hey, Joe Bondam Mosso is present.
Speaker 2: It's not a bad present either.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, we're very excited about it. So we're
Speaker 1: heading off next Sunday with Tim and I will be
Speaker 1: doing what do we decide to me Monday. We're going
Speaker 1: to be doing the show. On Monday evening, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing our annual mock draft that's really a real draft,
Speaker 1: and we're going to be recruiting some people and Tim's
Speaker 1: charge of that. He's going to be doing that and
Speaker 1: we're going to get that going a week from Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always fun and we have a good time
Speaker 2: with that one. It's it's just a fun, a fun,
Speaker 2: a fun afternoon evening affair. And yeah, I'm always looking
Speaker 2: forward to it. Hey, we're doing we're doing a fifty
Speaker 2: rounder on the clock, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a fifty rounder. It'll be a twenty three rounder.
Speaker 1: And the little twist is this year Tim and I
Speaker 1: won't have any problems with this, but maybe some other people.
Speaker 1: You've got to have draft at least one rookie, somebody
Speaker 1: who has less than fifty innings pitched or less than
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty at PATS. And if you don't
Speaker 1: pick one of those guys, I get to pick them
Speaker 1: for you, and I get to take one of your
Speaker 1: fifth round pick away, and I get to pick a
Speaker 1: rookie that will be left.
Speaker 2: So you don't want that to happen so well, No,
Speaker 2: I could see somebody ending up with sixteen year old
Speaker 2: Dominican kid that he has to look at all year. No,
Speaker 2: that doesn't felt like fun.
Speaker 1: I'll probably make it fair. I'll probably pick one of
Speaker 1: the guys that I think will come up, but or
Speaker 1: maybe let the person pick, but they will lose their
Speaker 1: fifth round pick, so that will be a little twist
Speaker 1: in it. So I'll make sure everybody knows it when
Speaker 1: I do the invite, tell them exactly what that particular
Speaker 1: role is. But you had a draft this past week.
Speaker 1: Your labor draft went on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, drafting out of the fifth spot. It was
Speaker 2: a fun evening. I actually spent some time with doctor
Speaker 2: Roto yesterday morning going over it, and he liked the results.
Speaker 2: He was he was drafting right beside me and we
Speaker 2: took here and snaping each other. But yeah, it was
Speaker 2: nice to be back on serious for a little bit
Speaker 2: cheot in the breeze. It was a fun event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that. Let's just go through the first
Speaker 1: round and then we'll go through your picks. Oh, tani
Speaker 1: Wan judged to first. It's a retisseriy league and batting average.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you've got to draft players that have not
Speaker 1: had any at batchet in the big leagues where you
Speaker 1: have to wait until they have a big league at
Speaker 1: bat to draft them. Is that to acquire them to
Speaker 1: pick them off the waiver wire? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's correct. They've got to have They
Speaker 2: got to have a third of an inning pitched or
Speaker 2: one at bat before they are eligible once the draft
Speaker 2: is over. During the draft, it's uh, it's it's fair game.
Speaker 2: But if you want, if you want a late pick,
Speaker 2: the stash and avoid that massive bab rush. Now is
Speaker 2: the time in this league.
Speaker 1: The first round looks pretty pretty straightforward. Showey aatani Aaron
Speaker 1: Judge Bobby with junior one soa Tim took led La Cruz.
Speaker 1: As he told us last week in the fifth old
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez and the sixth trek Scooble. Ronald Acuna Junior
Speaker 1: is off to a really good start in spring training,
Speaker 1: Paul Skiens, Oh Yoh, Rodriguez, Kyle Tucker, Gunner Henderson, Garrett Crochet,
Speaker 1: and Fernando Tatis. I don't see any real surprises here.
Speaker 2: Well, Kyle Tucker is up a little bit, but that's hey,
Speaker 2: that's personal choice.
Speaker 1: Because Carroll and Francisco Lindor have dropped because they might
Speaker 1: start the season on the IL and have the handmap issue.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, No, there was nothing. There was nothing really
Speaker 2: shocking right through I would say the right through the
Speaker 2: second round, you know, Nick Kurtz fell a little bit,
Speaker 2: but again still the middle of the second round, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was pretty well to chalk and then you get
Speaker 2: into rounds three and four and the pictures start flying
Speaker 2: off the board. So yeah, there was probably my picking
Speaker 2: Elie de la Cruz in the fifth spot. It was
Speaker 2: probably the most controversial pick in that first round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we talked, I just don't I don't
Speaker 1: think it is. I mean I was picking in the
Speaker 1: seventh hole in my NFBC draft, and I that's where
Speaker 1: I picked up Ledla Eli de la Cruz, and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know who went so obviously, uh Corbyn Carroll
Speaker 1: went before him. Somebody else must have gone before him
Speaker 1: as well. I can't remember who it was. It must
Speaker 1: have been one of the.
Speaker 2: Pitchers, right, probably because there's three of them going towards
Speaker 2: the middle middle back of the of the first round.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I could have gone Hose Ramirez, but I've
Speaker 2: got I've got future Rookie of the Year kaz O
Speaker 2: Komodo plans in most of my leagues, so I don't
Speaker 2: need to double an on third base by taking Jose Ramirez.
Speaker 2: I can just spread it out and go a little
Speaker 2: bit cheaper on that position.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're you're all in on kas Okamotos,
Speaker 1: so it's either.
Speaker 2: Gonna work or it's not.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 1: guys that I have as my draft targets, So if
Speaker 1: you do terrible, then my draft targets did not work.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I don't have, okay, a function where
Speaker 2: I can go zero zero down the road. Rich That's
Speaker 2: not fair, it really isn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so Tim goes Eli de la Cruz.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just do the first five picks and you
Speaker 1: can talk us through Elie de la Cruz one, White Langford, two,
Speaker 1: Hunter Brown three, Andre's Munos four because you've got to
Speaker 1: get a closer early and Freddie Perrault's number five. So
Speaker 1: what was your thinking picking Ellie de la Cruz and
Speaker 1: then coming back with White Langford.
Speaker 2: Well, I've wanted to be strong on the outfield, you know,
Speaker 2: right from the get go this year, from the early
Speaker 2: days we started talking about drafting, and I love Langford. Okay,
Speaker 2: what can I say? I probably could have waited around,
Speaker 2: but I just want him on my on as many
Speaker 2: of my teams as I can get this year. I
Speaker 2: think you've got to. I think you got a safe
Speaker 2: floor of twenty five twenty five with a decent batting average,
Speaker 2: and I'm perfectly happy having him anchor my oatfield.
Speaker 1: Rich Now, to be fair, I have him as well.
Speaker 1: But he has not done it. He has not done
Speaker 1: it yet.
Speaker 2: No, he hasn't. No, So but we both well we
Speaker 2: both planned on being in on the ground floor, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's my one concern. He hasn't done
Speaker 1: it yet. I haven't you have him. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say to that. But at some
Speaker 1: point he's going to do it. There's no guarantee it'll
Speaker 1: be this year. I think the likelihood is pretty strong
Speaker 1: it's this year because he had his taste last year,
Speaker 1: a little bit of aches and pains, hat showed some
Speaker 1: flashes of being the guy that we think he's going
Speaker 1: to become. But there is some level of risk because
Speaker 1: he has never done it before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty twenty I think would be disappointing, as you know,
Speaker 2: I add, But at the same point in time, that
Speaker 2: won't kill your plans. And I think you know, he
Speaker 2: did it last year.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you say that twenty twenty would be disappointing.
Speaker 2: Well, based on he did better than that last year. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean not a twenty five twenty six at twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: I'd be a little disappointed with that because that would
Speaker 2: mean he is performing this year at a lower level
Speaker 2: than the last year. I'm expecting growth.
Speaker 1: That's been twenty two last year with a two forty
Speaker 1: one batting average, and it's got a little unlucky. I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's when I say he didn't He hasn't done
Speaker 1: it yet. That's probably a bit of a lie, because
Speaker 1: I mean last year was pretty strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, and if he produces to last year's level,
Speaker 2: he's not going to hurt either one of us. Right,
Speaker 2: it'll be a bit disappointing, but it'll be a disappointment
Speaker 2: we can get over fairly easily, I think.
Speaker 1: So back to your first pick, he did did did
Speaker 1: you toy with the idea of going with one of
Speaker 1: the big pictures? Did you also toy with the idea
Speaker 1: of Ronald Acuna, Huli Robriguz, Kyle Tucker, some other big
Speaker 1: outfielder and go outfielder outfielder.
Speaker 2: No, No, there was no hesitation. I'm looking you look
Speaker 2: at what the Dela Cruz did last year. Okay, what
Speaker 2: twenty homers eighty RBI is, one hundred runs scored, thirty
Speaker 2: seven stolen bases with a busted up quad in the
Speaker 2: second half. Okay, I think you can set a twenty
Speaker 2: home run thirty five to forty stolen base floor for
Speaker 2: Dela Cruz. You can also look at the potential of
Speaker 2: a twenty five to thirty home run season and fifty
Speaker 2: stolen base So there you know type year. So there
Speaker 2: is no hesitation on my part at all. I didn't want.
Speaker 2: I didn't want the pitching, and yeah, I know Ronald
Speaker 2: Cunia is set in the world on fire right now,
Speaker 2: but I just feel Dela Cruz is a safer pick
Speaker 2: and Julio Rodriguez again, it's a great pick, but I
Speaker 2: just think the upside is the sky's elymit Dela Cruz,
Speaker 2: and I'll take that upside.
Speaker 1: You also indicated last Sunday that you would definitely take
Speaker 1: a Hunter Brown. I think a logan web Brian Wu
Speaker 1: et cetera. Were you hoping that Yamamota would get back
Speaker 1: to you because it went one pick before.
Speaker 2: You actually one pick after.
Speaker 1: Oh so you took count That's right, you took Hunter
Speaker 1: Brown ahead of Yamamoto. Explain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I explained that one yesterday because uh uh, the
Speaker 2: gentleman drafting after me, he was convinced for sure I
Speaker 2: was going to take Yamamoto and he won. He wanted
Speaker 2: an explanation, and it's a very simple one. If you
Speaker 2: look at their numbers from last year, they're totally comparable.
Speaker 2: You know, strikeouts, bitch e r a. All the numbers
Speaker 2: were within fractions of each other. And when I look
Speaker 2: at Yamamoto and don't hey, I love Yama Moto. I
Speaker 2: just think Hunterer Brown's capable of fifteen to twenty more
Speaker 2: innings than Yamamota will be this year. So I have Brown.
Speaker 2: I've moved him up ahead of Yamamoto. It's still very close,
Speaker 2: but when in doubt, I'm going to go with what
Speaker 2: I believe is going to be the picture that gets
Speaker 2: the higher workload, and I think that's under Brown.
Speaker 1: Our Patreon members got my targets two months ago. I
Speaker 1: said the fourth horse of the Big four after Schoobable's,
Speaker 1: Schimes and Crochet, was Hunter Brown. That was what my
Speaker 1: data told me, and I thought it was a clear
Speaker 1: definitive Hunter Brown over everybody else, including Yamamoto, Logan Gilbert,
Speaker 1: Christopher Sanchez. But that's just me. I do think I
Speaker 1: agree with you wholeheartedly that Yamamota will be rested. He
Speaker 1: is not going to pick as long as Hunter Brown
Speaker 1: is healthy. He's not going to pitch as many innings
Speaker 1: as Hunter Brown. Just not.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's no reason for it. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are in it to win it. They want
Speaker 2: him ready for the playoffs because we know, based on
Speaker 2: last year, how much of a difference maker he can
Speaker 2: be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Galamoto will be slightly overdrafted this year.
Speaker 1: He's good, great picture, no question about it. But I
Speaker 1: think people just need to realize that there's going He's
Speaker 1: going to get rested.
Speaker 2: He just is.
Speaker 1: Then he went with a closer we made. I made
Speaker 1: the comment last week, and I think you agreed. I mean,
Speaker 1: as long as everybody is drafting a closer early, it
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. Just jump in and get the guy
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and what we saw is in the fourth
Speaker 2: round I took Andrea's Munio, so okay, and right after
Speaker 2: Munos when Johan Duran coming back in round five, we
Speaker 2: then saw Devin Williams or all this Chapman David Bedner
Speaker 2: off in a round six. I think Munos is a
Speaker 2: step above all of those closers, So I'm perfectly fine
Speaker 2: with him in around four as an anchor to my
Speaker 2: fantasy bullpen.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about Devin Williams. I never got talk
Speaker 1: about closers today, but let's just talk about Devin Wise.
Speaker 1: He was brutal last year.
Speaker 2: It was not a good year.
Speaker 1: No, why is he still going as one of the
Speaker 1: elite closers. I mean when he was that bad last year.
Speaker 2: Well, because once you get by the first four or
Speaker 2: five closers, okay, they've all got some wards. Okay, you
Speaker 2: know Chapman is getting up there in age. Hey, what
Speaker 2: type of seasons have we seen from David Bedner over
Speaker 2: the past three years? Up down, all over the place?
Speaker 2: Ryan Hellsley, you know the middle deal. You look at Hellsley,
Speaker 2: he didn't look too good in the second half. Racio
Speaker 2: Iglacias had his moments last year brilliance, and he also stumbled.
Speaker 2: Jeff Hoffman. You know, the Jay's big project in the
Speaker 2: off season was to find a closer. Well, Jeff Hoffin
Speaker 2: is still their closer. Okay. Once you get through that
Speaker 2: first four or five closers, there's a huge group of
Speaker 2: ill called mid tier that all have that they they
Speaker 2: should all have various levels of concern attached to them.
Speaker 2: And then you get, let's toss a dark hope they
Speaker 2: stick out of the last ten or so closers. So
Speaker 2: I think Devin Williams falls into that middle group where
Speaker 2: you take him and your preferences are, you know, it
Speaker 2: could work great, or it could be a year like
Speaker 2: last year, in which case that's an awful high pick
Speaker 2: to be struggling with for all of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: which is why again I wanted one of the big
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that the elite five or so
Speaker 2: are carved in stone, but they're as close as you're
Speaker 2: going to get, a lot closer than the next group anyhow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get with Devin Williams of previous four
Speaker 1: years five verse was unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, best closer, if top three of not the
Speaker 1: best closer in the game. But last year maybe the
Speaker 1: bright lights of New York was just too much. But
Speaker 1: he's still in New York. He's just on the other
Speaker 1: side of the Hudson or other side of other side
Speaker 1: of the East River. So I don't know, it just
Speaker 1: seems a little scary to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a situation I wanted to do avoid, all right.
Speaker 1: So that's your top four. Let me get back over
Speaker 1: and then coming at number five is one of my guys,
Speaker 1: Freddie Parolta love that pick, so he decided to go
Speaker 1: three in a row one pitching.
Speaker 2: Well, when you look at the base, I think I
Speaker 2: established a base with Dela Cruz and Language of fifty
Speaker 2: home runs and sixty five stolen bases. Okay, that's a
Speaker 2: good enough start that it allows me to look at
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher and go three pictures in a row,
Speaker 2: because you know I've mentioned many times twenty three is
Speaker 2: a magic number. That's how many pictures ended up generating
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty plus strikeouts last year. I wanted
Speaker 2: at least two. With Freddie Perrault, I've got my two,
Speaker 2: and with Kevin Golzman as my third starter, that gives
Speaker 2: me three. So I wanted to take care of the
Speaker 2: strikeouts with a good, solid ace, high number two type starter,
Speaker 2: and Freddie BERLTA does everything I'd like.
Speaker 1: After that, you went Randy a Rose Arena and it's
Speaker 1: Tim's you know, just a guy that Tim gets a lot.
Speaker 1: Say Suzuki, one of my guys targets this year goes
Speaker 1: in the seventh round Kevin gossmans to mentioned Joe Adell,
Speaker 1: Big power, and then of course he goes kaz O
Speaker 1: Kamoto and then Amaya followed by that. So you with
Speaker 1: your two favorite Japanese guys coming into this season, talk
Speaker 1: about the why go back to two outfielders after taking
Speaker 1: White langfordt he went three outfielders and three pictures rot
Speaker 1: in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to shore up my oat field. I
Speaker 2: wanted power and a little bit more speed. Randy rose
Speaker 2: Arena accomplishes that for me. I don't see any reason
Speaker 2: why I say Suzuki can get twenty five to thirty
Speaker 2: home runs after hitting what thirty two? I think it
Speaker 2: was last year driving driving in ninety runs and Joe Adell.
Speaker 2: I'm counting on thirty five ninety out of Joe Adell. So, uh,
Speaker 2: just filling in the gaps from a power speed point
Speaker 2: of view and making my oat field as strong as possible.
Speaker 1: You've got serious power on this team with Adella Suzuki
Speaker 1: or Rosarina Langford. I mean, look, Dela Cruz might not
Speaker 1: hit fift, but if you told me he has thirty eight,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. That guy's got huge, huge batspeed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I again, I'm there's a big difference between
Speaker 2: Elie de la Cruz's floor and potential ceiling, and if
Speaker 2: he gets to his potential ceiling with the other picks
Speaker 2: I've made after him. Yeah, I like my offense a lot,
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: I think Elie de la Cruz has Ronald Acunya kind
Speaker 1: of power speed upside. I don't think he's as good
Speaker 1: of hitter. But if you told me it's it's forty eighty,
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't think that's like totally crazy. Forty
Speaker 1: sixty for sure, something like that, I would be shocked.
Speaker 2: No, I'll be back in a second. Okay, I just
Speaker 2: have to grab some more blood pressure medication. Then I
Speaker 2: got to get it down a little bit here. Rich No,
Speaker 2: but again, the se is incredibly high. It is and
Speaker 2: it is, and it sort of sets things up for
Speaker 2: picks Lake, Adele and Suzuki because I, between the La Cruz,
Speaker 2: Langford and Rose Brena, I've got a good, really good
Speaker 2: stolen base base. So I can go to guys like
Speaker 2: Adele and suzuk He and not have to worry about
Speaker 2: the fact that they're going to give me combined for
Speaker 2: sooln bases. Right, I can just hard the power.
Speaker 1: Elie de la Cruz and Ronalicun you're good buddies. And
Speaker 1: you know, if led La Cruz gets out of the
Speaker 1: gets off the snipe strong, which I hope he does,
Speaker 1: it begunning for that twenty twenty two or twenty three
Speaker 1: season of Ronald d'acunya. You could see him doing that.
Speaker 1: You can see him stealing bases just to catch Ronald d'acunya.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know when you look at the numbers
Speaker 2: he posted last year, half the season was with a
Speaker 2: damaged qud. Okay, you give him a healthy qlud and
Speaker 2: I think last year we were here easily stole in
Speaker 2: fifty five dayses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that big year was twenty twenty three, forty one,
Speaker 1: seventy three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think Elie dela Cruz is going to hit
Speaker 1: three thirty seven, but I think that kind of that
Speaker 1: kind of season of forty sixty seventy season is definitely
Speaker 1: an el dela cruise. He's going to do it at
Speaker 1: some point, hopefully it'll be this season, but I think
Speaker 1: it's it's in there. Let's see anything to say about
Speaker 1: let me I have I know a question I wanted.
Speaker 1: You talked a lot about Eurie Perez.
Speaker 2: Did you did you.
Speaker 1: Have a fleeting moment of taking Uri Perez where he
Speaker 1: took Freddy Peralta, And if you did, did you hesitate
Speaker 1: because he has been not very good in spring training
Speaker 1: so far. I mean, what was your thinking or did
Speaker 1: you just say Freddy Peralt is the better pitcher and
Speaker 1: more established picture, I'm going to take him. What was
Speaker 1: your thinking there, Ury?
Speaker 2: I love Euri Perez, and if he was still there
Speaker 2: in the sixth round, he was, he was taken right
Speaker 2: before me. Okay. I had two players at the top
Speaker 2: of my queue, and the order I had them in
Speaker 2: was Uri Perez and Randy Road Arena.
Speaker 1: So you would have taken your Perez.
Speaker 2: Wow, I would have. I would have gone with the
Speaker 2: third picture there and scraped my plans for my down
Speaker 2: in round eleven. Okay, And I would have I would
Speaker 2: have found my stole bases somewhere later on down the road. No,
Speaker 2: I my thoughts on Euripez I haven't haven't changed one bit.
Speaker 1: Even with the lousy start, because it wasn't just a
Speaker 1: lousy first start, it was a lowsy first two starts.
Speaker 1: That is not swaying your concern at all.
Speaker 2: No. I heard he's he's working on his fielding, and
Speaker 2: the more hits he can allow in spring training, the
Speaker 2: better fielder he'll back.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get. Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not concerned about Euriperez.
Speaker 1: No, Okay, all right, So it's funny I've not heard
Speaker 1: that strategy yet. When when does? Because again, spring training
Speaker 1: shiit an account for anything. We're going to get to
Speaker 1: a maya for a moment, because he didn't have very
Speaker 1: good first outing. If you ask me, when do you
Speaker 1: start to get worried? If Uri Perez blows up again
Speaker 1: in his next outing, do you start to get worried?
Speaker 1: Or you just say, no, it's a spring training.
Speaker 2: It's just spring training. Okay. The only time I will
Speaker 2: get worried is if after his next start the Marlins
Speaker 2: announced that he's dealing with a sore elbow or his
Speaker 2: forearm seemed a little you know, a minor forearm streen.
Speaker 2: At that point in time, you have to get concerned
Speaker 2: no matter who it is.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it did it. So you're not worried obviously
Speaker 1: because you took the maya that he pretty much was
Speaker 1: throwing ninety three miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm not concerned. He works, He works ninety
Speaker 2: four ninety five. It's his first outing. No, I'm not
Speaker 2: concerned at all. I'm sure if he wanted to, he
Speaker 2: could have ramped it up. He threw half a dozen bitches,
Speaker 2: one hundred triple digits. He can if he can throw
Speaker 2: it that hard. He's it's spring training, he's building building
Speaker 2: his arm strength up. I have no concerns He'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Tim goes with twelve, Abner ureba J Jackson, Holiday drops
Speaker 1: a little bit, Tim jumps on him. Garrett Cole loved
Speaker 1: that pick there at fourteen. Just to let you know
Speaker 1: a team make on him in the nineteenth round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably, I probably could have waited. But every
Speaker 2: time I turn around, I see his they're moving up
Speaker 2: his targeted start. If I can get at half a
Speaker 2: season out of Garrett Cole at eighty percent seventy five
Speaker 2: to eighty percent of what we're accustomed to, I'll be
Speaker 2: very happy.
Speaker 1: Look, anything can happen, but it is Garrett Cole. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the Garrett Cole on a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: This is Instill in his prime. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: this is one of the best pitchers in the game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, fourteenth eighteenth, nineteenth round seems crazy
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Well, again, you're you're betting. You're betting on earlier rather
Speaker 2: than later, and hopefully we see him towards mid May.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, we're looking at twenty potentially
Speaker 2: twenty plus starts. That's that's a lot of seventy five
Speaker 2: percent of Garrett Cole and his prime to add to
Speaker 2: your team once you get into me, and so you.
Speaker 1: Get a replacement level guy to fill in with him,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gimme, gimme, gimmey there. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you got Garrett called fourteen Carlos, So you did wait
Speaker 1: on catching because you go Carlos Avaiz in the fifteenth,
Speaker 1: and then Harry Ford in the twenties, to talk about
Speaker 1: that in a minute, and then south fray Lick in
Speaker 1: the sixteenth. Robbie Snelling also got beaten up in his
Speaker 1: first outing. And you waited on shortstop and you went
Speaker 1: Mason when and you also waited on first base, and
Speaker 1: you got Josh Bell. I mean, it's so this is
Speaker 1: a very interesting area because we're seeing the effects of
Speaker 1: taking three outfielders early and taking four or five starting
Speaker 1: pitchers early. You waited on shortstop and you waited on
Speaker 1: first base.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and as soon as I moved Abner yourrebay
Speaker 2: up into round twelve, which I think, which I love
Speaker 2: that pick, I really do, I took your Rebay over
Speaker 2: Trevor McGill who went two picks after me. Okay, I yeah, McGill.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about him a little bit more when we
Speaker 2: get into the closer reports. But again, he had Pierre
Speaker 2: perp shot in the off season. He's never made it
Speaker 2: through a season in his career. I don't think one
Speaker 2: hundred percent healthy. Your Rebay's got the stuff to close
Speaker 2: and at worst, I think I've got eight to ten
Speaker 2: saves and close to one hundred strike up. So I again,
Speaker 2: I was very happy to get Avenue Urebay in the
Speaker 2: twelfth round. But with those two closers there comes a
Speaker 2: price in the price's first base catcher and the middle infield.
Speaker 2: The middle infield, I wasn't too concerned about the corner
Speaker 2: infield and catcher. Yeah. Hey, we were at the stage
Speaker 2: of the draft where if I didn't look to Carlos
Speaker 2: nirvaias you can see the catchers taken after and it
Speaker 2: was getting pretty pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at it. So but I guess the
Speaker 1: old saying is you can't have everything right, So you
Speaker 1: gotta when you make when you're in the draft and
Speaker 1: in the heat of it, when you decide to take
Speaker 1: an Avenue Rebay early, or you decide to go with
Speaker 1: three out well, four outfielders.
Speaker 2: Early, you got a delta folders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're yes, something's gonna fall. And I
Speaker 1: guess the most troubling pick a long term owner of
Speaker 1: Josh Bell. Here myself.
Speaker 2: Josh Bell's brutal.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll have three weeks where he looks like
Speaker 1: the best first base in baseball, but you can't tell
Speaker 1: when those first three weeks are gonna be. Otherwise it's awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm praying Reecee Hoskins keeps the job in Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know what I've got with Josh Bell. At the
Speaker 2: end of the year, hopefully it should be twenty home
Speaker 2: run sixty RBIs and a two forty batting average. But
Speaker 2: you're right in between there, there's gonna be six weeks
Speaker 2: of nothing. At some point you die. It's gonna it's inevitable.
Speaker 1: It is it is your I mean, look, trust me, Timmy,
Speaker 1: it's gonna You're gonna look at it go oh dear God,
Speaker 1: why did I draft this guy? And then then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden'll blow up and go Okay, But you
Speaker 1: got to make sure you have him in otherwise you're screwed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's gonna be in my lineup and barring
Speaker 2: Reese Hoskins being you know or something on the waiver wire, Okay,
Speaker 2: availability there. Yeahs, I'm just gonna have to live with it.
Speaker 2: And I knew that when I picked up. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just yeah, you'll live with it and life goes off.
Speaker 1: You took Reese Hoskins in the twenty fourth round, so
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a moment and then, but
Speaker 1: tell me how you feel about Carlos Nevaias and Combo
Speaker 1: and Harry Ford.
Speaker 2: Well, I've also got Joe Mack that I picked up. Okay, Preserver, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sort of Hey, if I can get ten home
Speaker 2: runs and ten to fifteen home runs and fifty stove
Speaker 2: and fifty RBIs and Ovice, I'll be ecstatic. Harry Ford's
Speaker 2: fighting out with cab Ruiz for the number one job
Speaker 2: in Washington. I know he's young, but again there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of speed there, a little bit of pop.
Speaker 2: I like Harry Ford. And again I've I've protected myself.
Speaker 2: I believe with a catcher that if he doesn't break camp,
Speaker 2: we're going to see him fairly early and Joe Max,
Speaker 2: so hopefully between the three of them. You know, I can.
Speaker 2: I can end up with a total of twenty to
Speaker 2: twenty five home runs and one hundred and one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten hundred and fifteen RBIs.
Speaker 1: Great Breyon Bellow in the twenty first round, Victor Scott
Speaker 1: more Speed and the twenty Marcella Mayor and the twenty
Speaker 1: third res Hoskins. We already mentioned twenty fourth and back
Speaker 1: to back potential closers and Jojo Romero, though I think
Speaker 1: in your closure lets you have Jojo Romero listed as
Speaker 1: the closer, which I found to be interesting dra Jamison.
Speaker 1: I actually picked him up a couple of our Dynasty
Speaker 1: league redrafts because I looked at Tim's report and had
Speaker 1: Kevin Ginkle in the number one spot and I said, no,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jamison.
Speaker 2: And well, he's the only guy that's got heating a bullpen.
Speaker 2: Paul See will take an eighty nine miles an hour
Speaker 2: with the heat eater. Okay, I if you're going to
Speaker 2: call down, I've.
Speaker 1: Been down the in the Ginkle path too many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: It. No, I'm I'm not either. And I think with
Speaker 2: Jojo Romero, and you look at the situation with him
Speaker 2: and O'Brien. Uh, I think Romero is going to get
Speaker 2: five to ten saves by the time it's all said
Speaker 2: and done.
Speaker 1: And as a third, Brian a few weeks ago, that
Speaker 1: was your sleeper sleeper guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think O'Brien could be the number one,
Speaker 2: but all it's gonna take is just a small stump
Speaker 2: stump stumble, and Romero is going to pick up some saves.
Speaker 2: And Matt Svence and I like a lot as a
Speaker 2: number three when we get into some sleeper some sleeper
Speaker 2: picks all rant on about him. But again out of
Speaker 2: a third closer, if I can get five to ten saves,
Speaker 2: that should guarantee me with your eBay and Muno, is
Speaker 2: that a solid bullpen.
Speaker 1: Uh? And then you finish up with Joe Mack. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Aben Miller, which I thought was an interesting picking.
Speaker 1: Then your guy Ryan Weese, Uh, Tim is that's his
Speaker 1: guy's bank on getting them in the twenty ninth round.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. Anybody in the twenty ninth round
Speaker 1: is a great pick, but a Miller above all the
Speaker 1: other guys that was really this is a somewhat of
Speaker 1: an anti Tim McCloud draft, because that's really your well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not fair to say Amaya in Okamoto
Speaker 1: or true rookies. I mean they are, but they're not.
Speaker 1: This is your true prospect that you've got out there.
Speaker 2: Hem and Robbie Snelling, Yeah, seventeen. Yeah, so I I've
Speaker 2: got I've got a lot of you are a lot
Speaker 2: of youth on this game. You know, we look at
Speaker 2: Mason Winn as a bed dream. He's twenty three, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of you know, Wyatt Langford and
Speaker 2: Dela Cruz combined.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: I don't think at the forty five. Uh, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of youth on this team. But again, I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna see I'm prepared to wait on Miller. I
Speaker 2: think at some point in time this season, we're going
Speaker 2: to see you. It's just a matter of when. And
Speaker 2: I think when he does show up, I think what
Speaker 2: he could potentially bring to your fantasy squad is a
Speaker 2: lot of goodness. So I'm prepared. I'm prepared to kick
Speaker 2: back and see what Aiden Aiden Miller does does down
Speaker 2: on the farm for at least months and a half,
Speaker 2: two months, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think, Uh, I don't think he's played in spring yet,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if he must be.
Speaker 2: Hurt, Yeah, in a lower back issue. I believe yeah,
Speaker 2: because he goes.
Speaker 1: I keep waiting for for that bath to come up,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen it yet. Uh So, Timmy, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break it back. And I just want me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like your team. I want you. I
Speaker 1: want you to give me kind of your assessment of
Speaker 1: your team and what you think you're going to have
Speaker 1: to work on besides first base. I like your scene.
Speaker 1: I mean, did a lot of things I did in
Speaker 1: my NFCT and I like my NFC draft. You took
Speaker 1: a lot of the targets, which I doubt you looked
Speaker 1: at mine. You just kind of came to the same
Speaker 1: conclusions that I did. So I like it. I could
Speaker 1: be dead wrong. Do you like it? And then what
Speaker 1: are the areas you think you need to focus on?
Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Obviously, A corner infield. You know,
Speaker 2: corner infield is going to be a priority. And I've
Speaker 2: got there's six or seven names I've already got stashed
Speaker 2: away in my queue for the first waiver wire around.
Speaker 2: I'll see what happens with Reesaucekins. If he breaks camp,
Speaker 2: I'll exercise some patience and see what happens in the
Speaker 2: first couple of weeks. But definitely a corner infielder. And
Speaker 2: you know what, it doesn't matter how much pitching you have,
Speaker 2: you never have enough, Okay, So I at some point
Speaker 2: in time, I'll be watching very carefully to look at
Speaker 2: you know, I like my pitching. But at the same
Speaker 2: point in time, Hey, pitchers get hurt, they break, so
Speaker 2: you can never have enough of them. Ryan Weiss, I'm
Speaker 2: very very bullish on Hey, if you can snack him
Speaker 2: in the twenty eighth, twenty ninth round, nothing but upside
Speaker 2: with that pick. Hey, it might not work out, but
Speaker 2: based on what he did last it's a free pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no bad pick in the twenty ninth round, so.
Speaker 2: Well exactly and last year, if it wasn't for Cody Ponce,
Speaker 2: he would have been the KBO MVP. That's how good
Speaker 2: a season he had last year. So I'm willing to
Speaker 2: I'm willing to wait and see how that one shakes down.
Speaker 2: Then hey, if that one works out, Yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 2: definitely well as much the same as you know, guys
Speaker 2: like Joe Mack and Miller, and you know, you're rolling
Speaker 2: the dice and you're hoping for a best case scenario
Speaker 2: if they If it doesn't happen, well, you know my
Speaker 2: philosophy when it comes to the way of waiverwere spend lots,
Speaker 2: spend early, get get the numbers, and roll with it.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm really happy with the team. They shook
Speaker 2: down just about how I was hoping it would. Like
Speaker 2: Jackson Holiday in the thirteenth round. Yeah, it's going to
Speaker 2: be a slow start for him, no doubt. But if
Speaker 2: he goes fifteen fifteen with a half decent bed, you
Speaker 2: know in the thirteenth round, that works.
Speaker 1: I say, there's no bad picks on the twenty ninth
Speaker 1: round and I see Spencer Jones is name there? That
Speaker 1: guy's definitely not That guy's not a subscriber, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So no, but again you look at the last the
Speaker 2: last round, and yeah, Bo Naylor has a strong September.
Speaker 2: There's upside will Vest trillion.
Speaker 1: We're pulling for will Vest. So yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: about Dustin May. I see Dustin May. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I think Dustin May does have anything left, but I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, again, it's gambling on some upside and when
Speaker 2: you look at how the the guy that has Dustin
Speaker 2: May constructed his pitching, he has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight nine. Ten of his last eleven picks we're all pitchers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, because he got Cody Ponce, Code Singer, Rookie Sasaki,
Speaker 1: Jor Jones, he got Kinkle. That's funny.
Speaker 2: He's going to have two or three of those guys
Speaker 2: work out for him. But again, yeah, most of his
Speaker 2: reserve pitchers. Wow, yep, yeah, yeah, Mike went basically other
Speaker 2: than Quarrel, he is all pitching. And again, much like
Speaker 2: everybody else knows, you can never have enough of it, right,
Speaker 2: you might as well load up now. Well, it's free
Speaker 2: because once you get in season, the injuries start happening.
Speaker 2: If you're late on pitching, you're going up against fourteen
Speaker 2: other teams who also might be dealing with the with
Speaker 2: pitching issues. Eh. So yeah, again, I look at the
Speaker 2: team right beside Mike, who is Jeff Ericson from wire six?
Speaker 2: His last six picks were all pitchers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. Well I hope you too. Well,
Speaker 1: when is when is your talent warst Draft? That's in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks right.
Speaker 2: Uh no, it's just it's just coming Tuesday, really okay, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then a couple of weeks. Yeah, it's usually the
Speaker 2: first week of March. Labor is a little bit later
Speaker 2: than normal. Usually it's around the fifteenth or so. But
Speaker 2: because of the Olympics, Steve Gardner was a very very
Speaker 2: busy camp for over at USA. Today he's a commission
Speaker 2: of Labor. So we pushed it back a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So okay, well, very good. So let's moved some quick
Speaker 1: neat news and notes and then we'll get into the
Speaker 1: closer report. Very excited about the Closer report, Zach. Look,
Speaker 1: he keeps getting like Garrett Cole. He keeps keeps getting
Speaker 1: pushed up to him. Now they're saying that it's going
Speaker 1: to be April ninth, he's going to make his major
Speaker 1: league debut, which is only a week or two late.
Speaker 1: He hasn't risen much of the ADPs. Again, he's coming
Speaker 1: off of thoracic outlock syndrome surgery, which is they take
Speaker 1: out a hip not a hip bone, a bone in
Speaker 1: your oh what is it your ribcake? Yep, and reduces
Speaker 1: the pressure on the arms. Somehow, they were able to
Speaker 1: figure that out. But it's been difficult to come back
Speaker 1: from that surgery and from that condition. So I get
Speaker 1: why nobody's believing in him. But just like with Garrett Cole,
Speaker 1: it is Zach Wheeler one of the best pictures in
Speaker 1: this era of the game, says a guy that you're
Speaker 1: starting to get interested in.
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to pass because my philosophy, the way
Speaker 2: I'm building my pitching is year is I want some
Speaker 2: of those one hundred and eighty plus strikeout types. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: you ain't going to get them in the eighth round, okay,
Speaker 2: or if you do, you're getting them with a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of caveats. So for me, I hopefully have three
Speaker 2: starting pictures that will satisfy my particular needs by the
Speaker 2: time we get to Zach Wheeler. Okay, So he falls
Speaker 2: out of interest with the way I'm building my teams.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're looking at Wheeler as a number
Speaker 2: four starter, I'm I'm okay with that, okay, because you've
Speaker 2: got three starters ahead of him to anchor your rotation.
Speaker 2: If you're looking at him as a number three, that's
Speaker 2: a little bit too much risk for me. Rich I
Speaker 2: would just hey, I hope it works out. I hope
Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler returns to, you know, the form that we've
Speaker 2: seen over the past five six years. But again that
Speaker 2: surgery and the risk associated with it. Like I said,
Speaker 2: as a number four, yeah, okay, as a number three,
Speaker 2: that's a pass for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see I think he could really
Speaker 1: go up if if we see him in spring training,
Speaker 1: which we should soon, if he's throwing ninety seven miles
Speaker 1: an hour and dominating, I think he's going to start
Speaker 1: flying up draft charts, and I think rightly, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you'll end up buying him as a number two,
Speaker 2: which I won't, which I won't do either. I'll look
Speaker 2: at a Freddy Perralta type or Dylan Cees and much
Speaker 2: more comfortable dynasty.
Speaker 1: League owners or managers need to not again. Things can change.
Speaker 1: But Zach Wheeler has said a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and to reiterate it again last year, this is his
Speaker 1: last season he wants to do.
Speaker 2: He said twenties. Yeah, he said twenty seven, okay, his
Speaker 2: last season.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No. I took and looked up the article on
Speaker 2: today and it says twenty seven will be his final season.
Speaker 2: Right now, it doesn't look like we're going to have
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty seven, so twenty twenty six could be
Speaker 2: it rich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I told my wife about the debacle with
Speaker 1: Tony Clark. She just shook her head, like, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with these guys? Like I have no idea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I don't know, But like we discussed last
Speaker 2: week Thanks Thanksgiving in that household, it's going to be
Speaker 2: not good definitely on let's see.
Speaker 1: So that's first, and we already talked about Himaya, you're
Speaker 1: not worried about his debut. He did not look good
Speaker 1: ninety three point three. It was only an any It
Speaker 1: was a clean aning. It wasn't the result, it was
Speaker 1: just the fastball was not what I think anybody thought
Speaker 1: it would be. The other guy that I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get a little worried about, and he is starting to
Speaker 1: drop in drafts, and that is Josh hater because there
Speaker 1: is no timetable. The report came out yesterday for him
Speaker 1: to start throwing yet, and this is starting to get disconcerting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Abner Yurib should go a little bit ahead of
Speaker 2: Brian a Bray, but not by much. I think you've
Speaker 2: got to be moving a bray you up somewhere between twelfth, thirteenth,
Speaker 2: fourteenth round and again when you start looking at the
Speaker 2: strikeout potential from U Braid in addition to the fact
Speaker 2: that he is the unquestioned, unquestioned number two guy in
Speaker 2: that bullpen. I'm the sort of guy that I'm staying
Speaker 2: away from Hater, but I'm all over a brave you, okay.
Speaker 2: And once I see Hater off the board, yeah, my
Speaker 2: interest in a Brewer gets gets drawn to the fore
Speaker 2: rather quickly. I'll take him the next round or the
Speaker 2: round after that right away, just just because I like
Speaker 2: a Brellier. I Hey, if Hater is healthy, that's great.
Speaker 2: But man, I don't think he's going to start the
Speaker 2: season on time. So you're already pushing it back a
Speaker 2: little bit. If they rush him, who knows what's gonna
Speaker 2: what's gonna shake down. I'm just not comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a pass for me as well.
Speaker 1: I Mean, look at this Josh Hater. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about Hater and Garrett Cole and Zach Wheeler. These are
Speaker 1: like stallwarts, and it's like you can't believe that they're
Speaker 1: hurt and that they might not have a great season.
Speaker 1: But when you haven't thrown and it is March first,
Speaker 1: that's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yet, well, yeah, it's it's a rather big one. I
Speaker 2: just don't I'm just staying away. Hey, it could work
Speaker 2: out fine, but I'm not taking that chance. I'll invest
Speaker 2: in a brave before I invest in ad this year.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 1: Two interesting spring training stats versus a really weird one.
Speaker 1: Vance Honeycut, the young outfielder with the Baltimore Orioles, has
Speaker 1: gotten three at bats. He's got three home runs. Last
Speaker 1: year he struck out about half the time. How about
Speaker 1: your the there's anything there, but it is a weird
Speaker 1: stat that actually made MLB dot com When you go there,
Speaker 1: it's the lead story, Sarah, I know that, and uh uh.
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin also has three hits and three home runs.
Speaker 1: He's been up more times, but he did go one
Speaker 1: for three today with another home run. So thoughts on
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin are you, if you're if you're a Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Pirates fan, are you getting excited that there's a chance
Speaker 1: he breaks camp or does he need more time seasoned?
Speaker 2: Uh? I think that the most excited I would be
Speaker 2: is when I heard back in November that he was
Speaker 2: getting an invite to camp, and the Pirates' Powers to
Speaker 2: Be said, yeah, we're going to give him a little
Speaker 2: bit legitimate chance to hold down, hold down, the hold down,
Speaker 2: the fort breaking camp. That's when I would have been
Speaker 2: at my peak. Uh again there, I believe you mentioned
Speaker 2: it when we were off air, before we got on
Speaker 2: the You know, the Pirates are looking at extending him
Speaker 2: an offer. Well, they extend him an off or he
Speaker 2: takes it, Yeah, he'll be there. If not, I think
Speaker 2: he's back in the minors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think for long. Look the I'll say it,
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. It's all about Paul Skeens. The
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates will not be able to re sign Paul Skeens.
Speaker 1: And as we've seen with the Tigers and Tarrek Schoogle,
Speaker 1: they're going to do everything they can to win with
Speaker 1: Paul Skeens. And because you're not, Paul Skeens is not
Speaker 1: he's not going to be in the Pittsburgh organization. Another
Speaker 1: type of guy like Paul Skeans for a long long time.
Speaker 1: It's just he's just a unicorn and you got to
Speaker 1: go for it. And if if you can bring up
Speaker 1: Connor Griffin and let him struggle for a couple of
Speaker 1: months before he takes off. I think you do that
Speaker 1: and you're playing for the second half of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: but more likely twenty twenty seven, where you start to
Speaker 1: get this core group that can really make things move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I hope that's eroded Irates, you know,
Speaker 2: take But I do remember when Andrew McCutcheon was in
Speaker 2: his prime. The Pirates had a very very good team,
Speaker 2: and they had a loaded minor league system, and they
Speaker 2: didn't bring any of their minor leaguers up. They just
Speaker 2: played through it. They went to I believe, back to
Speaker 2: back wild card situations, one and done and that was
Speaker 2: all she wrote. So I just don't know what direction
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's going to go in. They've already proven in the past,
Speaker 2: you know, their commitment is to the wallet. Let's let's
Speaker 2: hope that's not going to be the case with Connor
Speaker 2: Griffin and we see him sooner as compared to later.
Speaker 1: Rich I know, we get a lot of listeners, a
Speaker 1: lot of new listeners this time of year as they're
Speaker 1: prepping for the draft and we're getting it into our
Speaker 1: closer report in a minute here. But if I made
Speaker 1: timmy need, I need to emote about something that that
Speaker 1: I found out about this week. May I do that?
Speaker 2: Yes, nothing beats a good Rich Wilson rant to conclude
Speaker 2: our opening notes.
Speaker 1: So we sold our beach house in North Carolina, and
Speaker 1: before you know, we were there moving stuff around. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch a game on MLB and I
Speaker 1: brought it up on the TV and it was blank.
Speaker 1: It just was black. And you know, I had the
Speaker 1: MLB app. It was a Samsung TV and it just
Speaker 1: didn't work. And you know, we had too much stuff
Speaker 1: going on. I said, look, I wanted to have this
Speaker 1: in the background. I don't. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: problem is. I'll figure it out later. Get back up here.
Speaker 1: I want to watch a game on MLB this past week.
Speaker 1: And I go to and I have MLB TV. I've
Speaker 1: had it for years and I go, yes, bring up,
Speaker 1: bring up the app and it's black, Like what's going
Speaker 1: on here? So I start to dig in and you know,
Speaker 1: I waste an hour of my time. Turns out my
Speaker 1: TV and it's not like these TVs are old tim
Speaker 1: and Samsung's the biggest maker of televisions. This is not
Speaker 1: like I got some winkedine kind of this is a Samsung.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, right, that's right, I think so. And my
Speaker 1: TV is not supported by MLB TV. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean my TV is not supported? It's it's
Speaker 1: like a like a generic it's not like something fancy.
Speaker 1: It's just a TV.
Speaker 2: And it's not like my twenty six inch color that's
Speaker 2: sitting in the living room right now. It's real.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's what you know. It's everything
Speaker 1: else works, Netflix, who look, you name it. They all work,
Speaker 1: and they all worked at the beach House thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is going on? All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I start to dig into it and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: MLB has now decided to work with ESPN for the
Speaker 1: next three years, and they're no longer really supporting their
Speaker 1: MLB dot TV app and you've actually got to go
Speaker 1: through ESPN to get the MLB package. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the hell, Like what do you mean? So I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do I do that? And I'm trying, and I'm
Speaker 1: not a rocket scientist. I'll give everybody now, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty technically savvy and I cannot figure out how to
Speaker 1: purchase this thing. And they say, well, we have a
Speaker 1: cable provider, per FiOS. Well you got to contact FiOS
Speaker 1: and they'll cook it up to your ESPN. And I
Speaker 1: couldn't figure that. It just didn't happen. They never sent
Speaker 1: me an email. So then I get on the phone
Speaker 1: with the ESPN people and they said, well, you got
Speaker 1: to let your MLB TV package kind of expire, which
Speaker 1: is to day or yesterday, and it finally expired, and
Speaker 1: then we'll get you all set up. So I got
Speaker 1: to get back on the phone with the ESPN guys, Timmy,
Speaker 1: just to get it set up. You go through the
Speaker 1: Espn ESPN app. You no longer go through MLBtv. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why did they do this? Like it worked? Fine, I
Speaker 1: don't get it.
Speaker 2: There's got to be money. It's got to be money rich.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason MLB does anything.
Speaker 1: Well, I dug a little bit deeper and they want
Speaker 1: you to sign up for ESPN Unlimited. Now again, if
Speaker 1: you cancel ESPN Unlimited, which it gives you every sport
Speaker 1: known to mankind, you can still keep the MLB TV,
Speaker 1: but you've got to subscribe to it for a month.
Speaker 1: So that's the ESPN hook. But apparently my understanding is
Speaker 1: with all of the regional networks going out of business,
Speaker 1: they've all, they've all. MLB TV is going to be
Speaker 1: basically broadcasting all of their local stations, and that's why
Speaker 1: they decided to hook up with ESPN. Because ESPN's got
Speaker 1: a more technical savvy and a broader reach to do
Speaker 1: all of that. That's the reason they've they've done it,
Speaker 1: but for me, they've made it very, very inconvenient. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe it'll work out better, but it has been a
Speaker 1: royal pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm very happy with my one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty two games minus Peacock of Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna bother. I'm not even gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna bother trying to play that game, Rich, I said,
Speaker 2: I can see enough baseball. Granted it's gonna be blue
Speaker 2: Jay heavy, but that's crazy. You would think it would
Speaker 2: make it as easy as possible to get people to
Speaker 2: pay them money, and and in turn they're not.
Speaker 1: Are they everything that you buy today, Timmy is click here,
Speaker 1: you click it, put in your credit card, another click, done,
Speaker 1: And this was like, no, you got to call talk
Speaker 1: to somebody and it's like, what is going on? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is and like the NFL, all that stuff just works,
Speaker 1: like this stuff is just made. They made it so difficult,
Speaker 1: and I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: No, I Hey, I I support your your angst. I'm
Speaker 2: just not gonna have anything to do with it. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm like the country. I'll probably have sixteen extra buttons
Speaker 2: to hit. Okay, yeah, I don't want to play around
Speaker 2: with that. If they don't, if they don't want your money,
Speaker 2: find a find a different avenue would be my suggestion.
Speaker 1: It to stop getting certain televisions is so lame, like
Speaker 1: this tell us and just be up front and open
Speaker 1: to say, hey, by the end, by March first, you
Speaker 1: got to switch over. Here's a button to click, and
Speaker 1: you'll be good. But no, it wasn't that. It was
Speaker 1: all hidden and it's like it wasn't anything obvious as
Speaker 1: to what to do, and it was very annoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see. I just made my last pick
Speaker 2: in a fifty round draft and hold I went with
Speaker 2: a Rockies pitcher. Can you believe that you did what?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go?
Speaker 2: Uh, Quintana, no one mahea, oh okay to.
Speaker 1: Me to come back and let's do your closer report.
Speaker 1: The original, the initial closer report for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Last year, the closer report was pretty stable throughout the year. Obviously,
Speaker 1: when the trade deadline came, it became crazy because all
Speaker 1: the competing teams took everybody's closer and put them together
Speaker 1: on their team to create these super relief. Course, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at the table here, do you think it's
Speaker 1: going to be another stable year where you're going to
Speaker 1: have guys that are going to remain as closers, or
Speaker 1: do you see a more typical year which is upside
Speaker 1: down and backwards and ford Every week there's multiple pictures
Speaker 1: that are the closer for a particular team.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you go back to twenty twenty four, okay,
Speaker 2: life was good. All the closer state closers. It was
Speaker 2: rather boring in twenty twenty four, and then we headed
Speaker 2: in it last year, and yeah, the early thinking was, well,
Speaker 2: I worked in twenty twenty four, could go wrong in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and everything went wrong at least in
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. Right now, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at a grand total of nine teams running committees, okay,
Speaker 2: which is a third of your bullpens in baseball have
Speaker 2: not established a defining closer. That's a third of the
Speaker 2: teams in the game. I think we're going to have
Speaker 2: more of twenty twenty five, except I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be more of a season. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: more of a full season shuffle, not just a two
Speaker 2: to three months. I think it's I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a dog's breakfast. And again that's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why when looking at the established i'll call elite closers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's a group of five of them. Okay, that
Speaker 2: fit that quality for me. After that you're into a
Speaker 2: middle tier and after that you're trying to toss educated darts.
Speaker 2: So for me, getting one of those top five closures
Speaker 2: is imperative.
Speaker 1: For all of us Americans, I'm going to give everybody. Ah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to save you from having to go to
Speaker 1: your computer. A dog's breakfast or dog's dinner is an
Speaker 1: informal British idiom for something that is a total mess, chaotic,
Speaker 1: or extremely badly done. It refers to disorganization, disorganized, botched,
Speaker 1: or poorly arranged situation. There you go, So that just
Speaker 1: that was what dogs used, dog's breakfast, and that's that's
Speaker 1: a rare term that you use. So I just wanted
Speaker 1: to give everybody a heads up at origins was the
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties suggested if you felt like cooking or a
Speaker 1: task that results an only fit for a dog, that's
Speaker 1: that's entomology of it. So there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Canadian equivalent to that is cluster blank.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have that one too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we had to with American idiot.
Speaker 1: North American idiot. But the dog, the dog's breaths, that's
Speaker 1: very very funny. Okay, send me. So let's so, why
Speaker 1: don't you go through, Uh, I'm gonna read out teams
Speaker 1: and tell me where you start to get worried. Dodgers, Mariners, Phillies, Edwin,
Speaker 1: Diz Muno, is Durant.
Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, we're good. Up to that, we're good. Up
Speaker 2: to Kate Smith at number five.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Mason Miller, Kate Smith with the padres and guardians,
Speaker 1: So they're your elite? Would you consider them to be
Speaker 1: the elite? Closer?
Speaker 2: Yes, those those five again, when I look at them,
Speaker 2: Miller seems to be the primo choice. Right now? Is
Speaker 2: number one as the number one overall. I've down shifted
Speaker 2: a bit on Miller because at one hundred and five
Speaker 2: miles an hour, I just don't know how much how
Speaker 2: much that arm is gonna take. Okay, we saw a
Speaker 2: minor league history which was what seventeen innings or something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, he just couldn't stay healthy. I've shifted
Speaker 2: Miller down, but the top five are all elite, and
Speaker 2: I recommend them as targets, targets for everyone. After that
Speaker 2: we get into the middle core.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never actually rostered Mason Miller. I mean, and
Speaker 1: it's sole reason. It's not his stuff, which is some
Speaker 1: of the best in the game. If you could just
Speaker 1: take a look at I mean, it's absolutely off the chart.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just he's never been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Except when he got to the major leagues. He's basically
Speaker 1: been health He's had a couple of stints, But I
Speaker 1: don't think God intended for man to throw one hundred
Speaker 1: and five miles an hour one hundred and four. I
Speaker 1: just thought, I'm sure that works.
Speaker 2: Well. I you know how we always say pitchers break Okay,
Speaker 2: of the top of the top five, if you had
Speaker 2: to factor in injury risk, which is what I've tried
Speaker 2: to do. I man four, it's like it. I agree
Speaker 2: totally is stuff is unbelievable. But how long can he
Speaker 2: continue to do what he's done. I don't know, there's
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: So I just as an aside, I've actually talked with
Speaker 1: a lot of pitching gurus or guys who study the
Speaker 1: kinesiology of pitching in the mechanics and so forth, and
Speaker 1: the number I have heard is the absolute upper limit
Speaker 1: for the human body to be able to throw a
Speaker 1: baseball would be about one hundred and six to one
Speaker 1: hundred and seven miles an hour. They do not believe
Speaker 1: that man can go over that. Now, they also believe
Speaker 1: you couldnt run a four minute mile, and people blew
Speaker 1: past that. But that's seems what these experts believe is
Speaker 1: somewhere around. So we're getting pretty close with Mason Miller
Speaker 1: at being at the absolute upper limit to what people
Speaker 1: believe a human body is capable of.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I started to look at one hundred miles an
Speaker 2: hour right now for me, you that's that's throwing the
Speaker 2: ball hard, one hundred and one, one hundred and two,
Speaker 2: every everything over and above that. I think has got
Speaker 2: to increase the opportunity for injury. That's my that's that's
Speaker 2: my training of thoughts. He had one O two, one
Speaker 2: o three, one oh four. Yeah, he might have three
Speaker 2: more miles per hour in the tank, but one hundred
Speaker 2: and four miles an hour he's bringing it. That's an
Speaker 2: incredible pressure on that arm.
Speaker 1: And you kill you do get unicorns like a rolled
Speaker 1: as Chapman. That just thirty eight. He's just continued to
Speaker 1: throw one hundred miles an hour and nothing seems to
Speaker 1: slow this guy down. But most guys break and lebron
Speaker 1: Jay is you know the Yankee young Yankee kid who
Speaker 1: I saw Tom last season. It's the next guy who
Speaker 1: said one O two, one oh three consistently. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just you just you just worry about guys. Let
Speaker 1: that throw that hard.
Speaker 2: Bring him up right now, use him, use him quick,
Speaker 2: you know, take advantage of take advantage of that situation.
Speaker 2: Wilet's at hand. The longer you wait, obviously, the yeah,
Speaker 2: the odds aren't your favor right.
Speaker 1: The next group being tell me when to stop Yankees
Speaker 1: with bender braves, with the glaciers, Mets with Williams Orioles
Speaker 1: with Hellsley Red Sox with Chapman, Marlin's with Fairbanks, Blue
Speaker 1: Jays with Hoffman Brewers with mcgilli.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, no, keep keep going rich sorry yes with Palencia,
Speaker 2: Correct Royals with Ess Right.
Speaker 1: You gotta stop at Reds with Pegan. That's that's ah.
Speaker 1: Where does the middle tier end?
Speaker 2: The middle tier ends for me at Santana.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, okay, so we've got bagone Kenley Janssen. Oh,
Speaker 1: just rusher for me with all my with all my
Speaker 1: shares of will Best.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you'll do well with will Best.
Speaker 1: Danny Santana. Yeah, I say the next group starting with Domingos,
Speaker 1: so please.
Speaker 2: Yes, and going right down that list, that is your.
Speaker 1: That's your problemings down to Ginkle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah. I think if you look at everybody
Speaker 2: in the group that we just mentioned, they're all capable
Speaker 2: of being fine closers. But there's also question marks associated
Speaker 2: with each and every one of them. Right now, Okay,
Speaker 2: the group below Santana, there's question marks with everybody across
Speaker 2: the board in that mess. That's you're you're getting into
Speaker 2: that dog's breakfast. Toss a dark part of the program.
Speaker 1: Out of that middle tier. Give me two to three,
Speaker 1: two or three guys that worry you the most that
Speaker 1: you know, hey, they got the job. It looks pretty secure,
Speaker 1: but something there wereries you either the setup or next
Speaker 1: guy in line are too good to keep down, or
Speaker 1: that the person who's the closer now doesn't typically keep
Speaker 1: their job, or is there anybody in there that worries
Speaker 1: you in that middle tier.
Speaker 2: I have no shares of Jeff Hoffman, okay, and I
Speaker 2: lean to be a Jays fan. You know, their Canada's team,
Speaker 2: and yeah, so be it. But you know, hey, the
Speaker 2: Jays said at the end of last year that you know,
Speaker 2: upgrading their bullpen was going to be a priority. Well
Speaker 2: they picked up Tyler Rogers. Okay, yeah, good picture. He
Speaker 2: hasn't traditionally been a ninth inning guy. But Jeff Hoffman
Speaker 2: last year was a roller coaster coaster ride, and I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be anything but the same
Speaker 2: heading into this year. Okay, so hey, we're going to
Speaker 2: see Hoppins got the job. The thing that change is
Speaker 2: that when he takes the downswing on that roller coaster ride,
Speaker 2: then you're gonna see Rogers and Louis Arland enter into
Speaker 2: the equation. I think fairly quickly, so Jeff Hoffman, Nogel,
Speaker 2: the Brewers, Hey, McGill, Nogel, I will invest in Abner Eureba,
Speaker 2: but I will not touch McGill. Josh Hader right now?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: McGill has been somewhat consistent.
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a full season where he hasn't ended
Speaker 2: up on the IL at some point in time. He
Speaker 2: had a PRP thing for his four arm elbow in
Speaker 2: the offseason. That doesn't say to me that anything is
Speaker 2: going to change as far as his health status. For
Speaker 2: he's a good pitcher and he's capable of twenty five
Speaker 2: to thirty saves. But even right now in Milwaukee, coming
Speaker 2: out of Milwaukee, they're very they're very comfortable with abnue
Speaker 2: Uiba in the ninth inning, and they've stated that, they've
Speaker 2: stated it might be a committee Okay, right out of
Speaker 2: the gate. That's how comfortable they are with your rebate.
Speaker 2: So why would you pay any sort of premium for McGill? I? Hey,
Speaker 2: I drafted your rebate in labor two spots before McGill
Speaker 2: was draft drafted. So that's that's where my thoughts are.
Speaker 1: See and Glacias you mentioned, really struggled and part of
Speaker 1: the the the season and Robert Suarez. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: looking at the data, but he was the top closer
Speaker 1: over the last three years in terms of number of
Speaker 1: saves I have. I'm not me personally, but if I
Speaker 1: had him in a Donasty league, would you be dropping
Speaker 1: Robert Suarez or would you be looking to acquire Robert Suarez?
Speaker 2: Uh? Acquire. I think Iglesias is the guy that they
Speaker 2: want for this year. But in the event we see
Speaker 2: a repeat of when you you know where he struggled
Speaker 2: last year. I only think Braves will hesitate at all
Speaker 2: to bring Suarez into the ninth inning. Okay, they won't
Speaker 2: run two months of a struggling ratio to Glacias in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That that just will not happen. If
Speaker 2: I had a Glacias, I'd want a handcuff in Robert Suarez.
Speaker 1: Definitely same same here, and I'm hoping somebody drops Robert
Speaker 1: Swares in our dynasty es. I think that's the guy
Speaker 1: that you want. I mean, he's he's all these challengers
Speaker 1: came to him, and even Mason Miller. He was when
Speaker 1: the Padres acquired Mason Miller was still Robert Suarez. That
Speaker 1: was closing after they cut Mason Miller. So he's has
Speaker 1: turned away better pictures than him. It just keeps getting
Speaker 1: it done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, Suarez is a great picture. So, like
Speaker 2: I said, I that's that's where you get into you know,
Speaker 2: you look at bed near. Okay, he's had his moments
Speaker 2: over the past few years where he's been a free
Speaker 2: agent in Dynasty leagues. People have cut him loose because
Speaker 2: he's been that bad over the past couple of years,
Speaker 2: he's hurt Glaciers, has had his moments. Devin Williams we
Speaker 2: talked about in the last segment. Hellsley didn't look great
Speaker 2: in the second half. Our oldest Chapman is the thirty
Speaker 2: eight Pete Fairbanks had a hard time getting a job. Hoffman.
Speaker 2: We saw that McGill, hell Josh Hader, who knows what's
Speaker 2: going to happen there before the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: I actually like Danny Palentia bit with the cup.
Speaker 1: Ye I know you do, man. I like Filmington too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a solid pitcher mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Palentia can really brand, you know, you get to
Speaker 2: ask of his and be gone. Henry Jensen, Santana, some
Speaker 2: of these guys will get moved like Kenley Jansen. I
Speaker 2: don't see a thirty plus save season in there. I
Speaker 2: think he'll be the principal closer, but I think they'll
Speaker 2: also be enough for will Vest to get eight to
Speaker 2: ten saves in there. They're not going to work Henry
Speaker 2: Jansen in three out of four days.
Speaker 1: Sorry, buddy, talking on what's what's the chances of Amelia?
Speaker 1: But God, lightning striking twice here in him having another
Speaker 1: is phenomenal last season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we had a we had a cottage camp
Speaker 2: in North Bay for years and it got hit by
Speaker 2: lighting five times. So it can't happen. Rich, it can't happen.
Speaker 1: You weren't in the place when I got hit by lightning?
Speaker 2: Hope three times? Yes?
Speaker 1: Really? What's that light?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh? Dark, very quickly, brilliant flash of light, glass
Speaker 2: all over the place. It imploded the TV s that
Speaker 2: we were watching TV. There's pace, big noise, big flash, darkness,
Speaker 2: lots of yelling looking for alcohol and cleaning up the mess.
Speaker 1: That's funny, Timmy. Let's take a break and get back
Speaker 1: and let's talk about these dreads at the end. Fortunately
Speaker 1: did this, uh talking about closers every week and we
Speaker 1: will talk about these last ten or so more times
Speaker 1: than we than we want to. But that's just the
Speaker 1: nature of the beast.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably fair to say of the last
Speaker 2: where is it nine teams or ten teams on this list?
Speaker 2: They will generate thirty mentions on the waiver water this year.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Okay, Santa. I mean to mean guys like
Speaker 1: with the White Sox they signed him. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got to get the job. But I don't understand. Grant
Speaker 1: Taylor looked really good last season. I thought they would.
Speaker 1: I think you should be a starter. Maybe they're going
Speaker 1: to make him a multi any reliever. That's why he's
Speaker 1: not scheduled to close. There's been talked that they'll treat
Speaker 1: him like they did Chrysale, even though I don't think
Speaker 1: any there's anybody left in the White Sox organization that
Speaker 1: was there when Chrissale was there. I get the sentiment,
Speaker 1: but it just feels Grant Taylor's the best picture in
Speaker 1: that bullpen.
Speaker 2: I agree. Unfortunately, the White White Sox have got a
Speaker 2: plan and a path plotted out. Originally I had Grant
Speaker 2: Taylor as the number two guy, and I've moved him
Speaker 2: back to number three, and it's got nothing to do
Speaker 2: with skill and ability. It looks like the White Sox
Speaker 2: want to get him into multi inning or into a
Speaker 2: multi inning role. Correct, Okay, Well if that's the case,
Speaker 2: how do you put him in the number two spot
Speaker 2: as a setup guy to Domingus? I don't think he
Speaker 2: can and I think Grant Taylor. They want him to
Speaker 2: be a starter, and I think he will be, and
Speaker 2: I think they're following the path that they did with
Speaker 2: Chris Alee. Okay, and hey, I think he's the best
Speaker 2: arm of the three, but that's not the plan. And
Speaker 2: as much as we would like to say he should
Speaker 2: be the closer, the White Sox are going you know,
Speaker 2: they're going to be the ones to decide it. So
Speaker 2: I just don't see many saves. You know, he might
Speaker 2: pitch the eighth ninth inning a few times, but they
Speaker 2: want to stretch him out. And I think come the
Speaker 2: second half he's going to be starting games.
Speaker 1: It's where I think he belongs. But the mean guys, look,
Speaker 1: I've been down that path way too many times since
Speaker 1: you have it. It's it never ends. Well. Now, maybe
Speaker 1: he can pull up a gone and and and they
Speaker 1: put it all together finally, but no, no, thank.
Speaker 2: You, no, Moss, No, and leisure doesn't suit me at all.
Speaker 1: Did you have a leisure suit when you were in
Speaker 1: your everybody was right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I think
Speaker 1: it's in high school and that's what everybody was wearing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you had to have a leisure
Speaker 1: suit and you look back on him and go, oh
Speaker 1: my word, I can't believe.
Speaker 2: Before a Yeah, I've had I've had days where I've
Speaker 2: burnt pictures. Okay, burning picture parties, I'll follow them. Okay, yeah, dear,
Speaker 2: that couldn't have been me. No, it was not.
Speaker 1: That was not a good That was not a good
Speaker 1: clothing trend there. Okay, the Rays, Jacks, Clevenger, Baker, it's
Speaker 1: a committee. I like. I think Jack's is the best
Speaker 1: best picture in that group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have changed with the injury to Ev. When
Speaker 2: you said, okay, coming into spring, it was a you
Speaker 2: said at Jack's Clevenger threesome. Well, you said, is dealing
Speaker 2: with a shoulder impedgement and shoulder issues, and he's out
Speaker 2: of that mix. And I think the beneficiary there is
Speaker 2: definitely I think Griffin Jack's I would, if I had
Speaker 2: to bet, I would I would go sixty forty that
Speaker 2: he starts in the closer role with the injury to
Speaker 2: you said of being being a good bit behind that
Speaker 2: one that decision. So I've got it as a committee
Speaker 2: for now. But I sort of like Griffin jacks amongst
Speaker 2: all of the other messes that we're going to discuss.
Speaker 1: And I know most people believe that the Rays run
Speaker 1: with committees, but if you historically look at their bullpen,
Speaker 1: they typically have a closer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. They you know, they had Troy for
Speaker 2: Percival for a while, you know, Bear Banks. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: they They're not a They're not a team that is
Speaker 2: hooked into a committee format, right.
Speaker 1: It just sometimes it plays out that way because there's
Speaker 1: nobody that claim it. So I think if Griffin Jackson
Speaker 1: gets a shot, and he's always been the setup guy,
Speaker 1: and I think maybe this onely gives him a chance
Speaker 1: to be the closer the Giants. I thought it's interesting
Speaker 1: you had the Giants Walker down a little lower, even
Speaker 1: though it's a stable situation and he's he held the
Speaker 1: job pretty much last season. So why is so low
Speaker 1: with Walker?
Speaker 2: Well, he held the job, he lost the job, he
Speaker 2: held the job. I I don't know, are we going
Speaker 2: to see doctor Jeckel or mister hide from Walker? And
Speaker 2: I'm not sold that we're going to see the good doctor.
Speaker 2: And right now he's got the it's his to lose.
Speaker 2: But as we saw last year, he can lose it
Speaker 2: and I'm just not convinced that won't happen.
Speaker 1: With the athletics, Harris Sterner and Lighter Junior. Does Harris
Speaker 1: have the I mean, you've got him in the closer
Speaker 1: slot even though it's a committee. He seems like he
Speaker 1: is the odds on favorite decent stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's the odds on favorite. He held
Speaker 2: it in September. Okay, the closer bit, but yeah, you
Speaker 2: got to look at Sterner in that big fastball. He's
Speaker 2: going to be lurking in the shadows and he's a
Speaker 2: picture that I rather like heading into heading into drafts,
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen team drafts. I don't have any problems
Speaker 2: with somebody causing the dart at Sterner. I think he's
Speaker 2: a good pitcher. And again, only time will tell, but
Speaker 2: definitely it's you know, I've a lot of people like
Speaker 2: Mark Leiter. He's never he's never performed in a closing role.
Speaker 1: Now he was solid with the Yankees for years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's solid. But I I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be one of Harris or Sterner. And the guy
Speaker 2: that I like is Sterner for the fastball velocity.
Speaker 1: You've already mentioned you like Jojo Romero a little bit
Speaker 1: more than than O'Brien. Is that still because you took
Speaker 1: Romero in the draft?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The the guy that I really like I like.
Speaker 2: I think Romero and O'Brien are going to be in
Speaker 2: a committee to start the year. You get to write,
Speaker 2: you know, lefty there. I think that'll work. But the
Speaker 2: guy that I really like, go check out Matt Spenson's
Speaker 2: statcast page. That will bring a smile. I if you've
Speaker 2: got the space, He's one guy that I would definitely
Speaker 2: look to add as soon as possible. I think he's
Speaker 2: got closure written all over.
Speaker 1: And Richard, I'll have to take a look at that.
Speaker 1: My guy, Victor Vodnick because because I like saying Bodnick
Speaker 1: someone he is the he's the closer, it says stable.
Speaker 1: But he'll probably get what twenty five shots course about
Speaker 1: fifteen games.
Speaker 2: It's the Rockies. Yeah, it's the Rockies. I like Mahea
Speaker 2: as the number thirty three guy in that bullpen. I
Speaker 2: just took him with my fiftieth pick in the draft
Speaker 2: and all the big arm, and I wouldn't be at
Speaker 2: all shocked to see him find his way into some
Speaker 2: saves this year in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Robert Garcia seems to be getting the early buzz as
Speaker 1: the closure with the Rangers. Is that your take as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there, I don't think they've committed to him.
Speaker 2: You know, they keep talking about Chris Martin, who's I
Speaker 2: think now thirty eight thirty nine is being in the mix.
Speaker 2: And hey, when they signed Alexis dis Okay to work
Speaker 2: out of that ten, is that an endorsement of Robert Garcia.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Uh, that to me is it's
Speaker 2: I'm looking that it's garcias to lose, but I think
Speaker 2: there's a good chance he might. And I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: totally shocked to see Alexis d is And uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: He's he's got a pitch better though, because he didn't
Speaker 1: pitch well last year at all, and.
Speaker 2: Then it was a horrible year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then this he's already got blown up in
Speaker 1: his first out this spring, so he's got to make up.
Speaker 1: There's there's definitely some issues there. Angels, Robert Stevenson, Drew Pomeranson, Kirby.
Speaker 2: Yates, and Joyce in the cast a thousand that you had.
Speaker 1: You had me in my NFBC draft. You had me
Speaker 1: drafting Ben Joyce. I did that when I wanted to
Speaker 1: do the password, and now Ben Joyce's even on this list.
Speaker 2: Explain yourself, well, you need to develop more columns on
Speaker 2: this list. Check it slide A fourth and the fifth
Speaker 2: for certain circumstances. Yeah, there's about four or five guys
Speaker 2: that could end up saving games. And let's face it,
Speaker 2: you know Yates is closing in on forty Pomerants and
Speaker 2: health in the same sentences, and oxymor and Robert Stevenson
Speaker 2: the same thing, Joyce the same thing. Whoever is healthy
Speaker 2: and gets back to back chances will hold the job
Speaker 2: until they're not healthy, which could be a very short
Speaker 2: period of time. Unfortunately, it's yay, you do what you
Speaker 2: want with the Angels, but I know what I'm doing,
Speaker 2: and that's avoiding it. I just no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Second, another break, tim me come back and finish this
Speaker 1: list up and then ask about your closers or excuse me,
Speaker 1: your sleepers. Tom and I took a quick little break
Speaker 1: and my wife, Tim was gone today. I'm here in
Speaker 1: our place. She was at a tea party and brought
Speaker 1: me home treats. And I'm looking at it and they
Speaker 1: look really good. Looks like a chocolate scone, some kind
Speaker 1: of maybe a snickerdoodle, uh cookie. And there's something really
Speaker 1: fancy looking that's made into a shape of a tea teacup. Teacup.
Speaker 2: So it's very It looks like somebody is going to
Speaker 2: be generating a sugar rush. Get off the air.
Speaker 1: We might not even wait till we get off the air.
Speaker 1: It looks awfully offully good.
Speaker 2: So I'm very excited about.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Timmy, let's finish up your list. Here the
Speaker 1: Angel Stevenson, Palmeran's and Yates or I talked about that.
Speaker 1: And then what about Topa. You told me to pick
Speaker 1: him up at the trade deadline? I did should and
Speaker 1: I guess I should hold on to him, but Sands
Speaker 1: got the got the job after the trade deadline was over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again. I have no idea how this is
Speaker 2: going to show. You say Topa, You say Sands, I
Speaker 2: say Topa. You know Taylor Rogers is there. He could
Speaker 2: he could prove to be the to be the favorite. Again,
Speaker 2: you want to toss a dark just hey, don't hold
Speaker 2: onto it too long. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: faith in anybody in that ball. If it wasn't for
Speaker 2: the Nationals and Diamondbacks, they'd probably it'd probably be thirtieth
Speaker 2: on this list at this point in time.
Speaker 1: Clayton beat her. The former Yankee down with the Nationals.
Speaker 1: Cole Henry has been tolling around in the Nationals minor
Speaker 1: leagues for years. In PJ. Poulan, I'm I'm sure how
Speaker 1: familiar with him. That's a committee. Is Clayton Peter really
Speaker 1: going to get the job?
Speaker 2: I think odds are fairly good that he will. The
Speaker 2: guy that I'd be watching very very closely and carefully
Speaker 2: early on is PJ. Pullen, And I think he's I
Speaker 2: think he's got the he's got the arm. I don't
Speaker 2: know where it's going, but he's got a big arm.
Speaker 2: And at some point in time I beat her Henry.
Speaker 2: If they can't get it done in a dynasty format,
Speaker 2: he'd be a guy i'd be stashing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm at the roster resource page and this is
Speaker 1: the starting starting pitchers for the Nationals Miles Nicholas, Kate
Speaker 1: Cavelli and Brad Lord, Josiah Gray and Foster Griffin.
Speaker 2: Wow wow, I like I like Foster Griffin, but the
Speaker 2: rest you can have him. I think that's a team
Speaker 2: that's going to work hard to win sixty games.
Speaker 1: That's tough, man, that's tough. Well, yeah, they've got I
Speaker 1: mean obviously James Wood and c j Abrams and Dale
Speaker 1: and Lyle had a pretty good season. Dylan Cruz, I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't know what I mean. It's Ben mcgartis is
Speaker 1: the starting first basement. Good for him, good for him. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some there's some potential on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of the board. Pitching is going to be it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a tough year, it really is.
Speaker 1: Ben Lacurtizi's definitely a platoon guy. Cannot hit left. He
Speaker 1: so don't get all excited about him everyone. I mean literally,
Speaker 1: it's like a two sixty hitter right handed against right
Speaker 1: handers and like a one fifty. They just can't hit
Speaker 1: him at all. And then we're down in the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: Look your favorite your favorite closer.
Speaker 1: If I may, I'm taking I'm taking this one over.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Tim, Kevin Ginkle, Paul Sewalden, Dre Jamison.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Kevin Ginkle multiple times every year. I
Speaker 1: have picked him up multiple times and it never works
Speaker 1: out that maybe again it's it's Emilia Pagonnell over again
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's going to be great.
Speaker 1: But pepmight be aware of that. Paul Sewell is eighty
Speaker 1: years old and throws eighty eight miles an hour. Drey
Speaker 1: Jamison starter, failed starter, great arm, that's the place to go.
Speaker 2: I think that's the place that I'm going. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: got several shares of jameson again shortly. But if you
Speaker 2: look at the three arms that are currently available in
Speaker 2: Arizona until Justin Martinez gets back mid season, and I
Speaker 2: think a j Buck's there too. If I'm not, They've
Speaker 2: got some guys coming back. But Dray Jamison's got the
Speaker 2: big arm of the big basketball again. He's the guy
Speaker 2: that I'd be tossing right now.
Speaker 1: It's definitely adult, dark, dark toss at the moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: Ginkl is the logical guy there, but just been down
Speaker 1: there so many times. I mean, it's just it just
Speaker 1: hasn't worked for him so.
Speaker 2: What's the definition of insanity? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Ginkle.
Speaker 2: That's over and over expecting expecting different results.
Speaker 1: Right, otherwise known as Kevin Ginkle.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: All right, So now I've got to find ten sleeper
Speaker 1: list here? So oh where did it go? Now? There
Speaker 1: it is? So, I mean I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Well, I think I will ask you the question.
Speaker 1: Give me two or three guys that are lower in
Speaker 1: the list, not necessarily on the bottom ten. But every
Speaker 1: year there's going to be you know, it's going to
Speaker 1: be the David Bedner that finally puts stuff together and
Speaker 1: becomes an elite closer. Give me a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that have a chance to do that this year.
Speaker 2: Elite closers.
Speaker 1: It could be no one by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I if I'm looking at elite, I'm looking at guys
Speaker 2: that are ninety five mile an hour plus fastballs, big arms.
Speaker 2: They could be elite. Racial Leglasis has been elite. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he could. He could be an elite closer. Problem is,
Speaker 2: I think he's heading into free agency. I think they've
Speaker 2: got him this year, and the plan is Suarez takes
Speaker 2: over next year. So again there's that question where We've
Speaker 2: seen elite quality stuff out of Devin Williams. Okay uh
Speaker 2: Pete Fairbanks for a reasonable price this year could generate
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty saves. Josh Hader reason elite closer with
Speaker 2: help questions.
Speaker 1: What about Tennis Santana.
Speaker 2: My concern with Santana is that at some point in time,
Speaker 2: towards the middle of the season, the pirates deal and
Speaker 2: he ends up being a setup.
Speaker 1: Guy somewhere, all right.
Speaker 2: So that, Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I've
Speaker 2: got him below Jansen and Amelia Pagan and Carlos Estebez,
Speaker 2: simply because I think the odds are higher that he
Speaker 2: has moved as compared to the three guys above him
Speaker 2: on the list. Here an elite closer. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with the Cubs Daniee Balinche look at his stat cast page.
Speaker 2: It is it is a thing of beauty. He's got
Speaker 2: everything required to make that top five, a top six,
Speaker 2: top seven.
Speaker 1: Good good stuff. Let's go to you. Let's go to
Speaker 1: your closer or your sleepers list here and I'm going
Speaker 1: to let you go through in one by one. First
Speaker 1: is Jeremiah Estrada with the Padres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, who's the closer there, it's Mason Miller. Jeremiah
Speaker 2: Strata that I believe he led all relief pitchers and
Speaker 2: strikeouts last year. Remember when he was a Cub. We
Speaker 2: all had such high hopes for Jeremiah Strata. Well, it
Speaker 2: looks like on the West Coast he's fulfill in those hopes.
Speaker 2: Adp of four fifty eight. Astrata is a guy that
Speaker 2: I would definitely be looking at drafting in the regular
Speaker 2: component of the draft, in the reserve rounds. Of course.
Speaker 2: I like a Strata a lot.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Justin Sterner already I'm looking at his uh
Speaker 1: he told me to look at his Baseball Savant page
Speaker 1: and let's see. Yeah, he is throwing ninety three point five.
Speaker 1: Nobody hits it, which is good. He's got uh a
Speaker 1: sweeper that looks like it's got huge whiff rate. It
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. But I don't it's not a huge thrower.
Speaker 1: So what am I looking at here? What? What do
Speaker 1: you really see that's going to jump up?
Speaker 2: Flyball picture Hogan Harris?
Speaker 1: Oh, you just don't think Hogan Harris is going to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's going to be an opportunity for Sterner.
Speaker 2: And with an AD four eighty that that's yeah, that's
Speaker 2: got my attention.
Speaker 1: You just want to when when he gets the job,
Speaker 1: you just want to go hold again. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: my joke there, all right, Karen wentlocked with Austin former starter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Rolls, Chapman's not getting any younger. Okay. Garrett
Speaker 2: Woodlock's in the setup role and he's pitched very well
Speaker 2: of late ADP of five twelve. I like Whitlock as
Speaker 2: a handcuffed Chapman and if you're looking at a reserve
Speaker 2: round pick, he's next in line, clearly next in line.
Speaker 2: And again I'm not predicting doom and gloom for Chapman,
Speaker 2: but it never hurts for the thirty seven thirty eight
Speaker 2: year old closer to have somebody handy just in case
Speaker 2: and Chapman. If you look at Chapman's numbers over the
Speaker 2: past five years, other than the last year, they've been very,
Speaker 2: very meatyocre for the three years I believe three years
Speaker 2: prior to last year, So who knows, there's risks.
Speaker 1: Matt Swanson told me to look at his Baseball sav.
Speaker 2: Page during that heavy seat.
Speaker 1: Thrown at ninety seven miles an hour, with Yeah, with
Speaker 1: a launch angle of five degrees, that means he is
Speaker 1: an extreme ground ball pitcher with a needs a better
Speaker 1: sweeper doesn't have a huge whift rate on it, but
Speaker 1: that sinker looks pretty nasty. Where it's got an expected
Speaker 1: batting average of two twelve, batting average of one fifty seven,
Speaker 1: a sweeper's got a betting average of one twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty good stuff. That's a good call by
Speaker 1: unister McLoud.
Speaker 2: Thanks Rich. And he's in a situation where he's number
Speaker 2: three behind Romero and Riley O'Brien, so it's not like
Speaker 2: there's stability in that bullpen at the top end right now.
Speaker 2: So I like him a lot.
Speaker 1: Louis Varlin, any comment to make there six twenty two ADP.
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be higher than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you look at Jeff Hoffman, Okay,
Speaker 2: the Jays were going to address that in the off season.
Speaker 2: They did, and they brought in Rogers. But Rodgers has
Speaker 2: never really he's never really been in a closure capacity.
Speaker 2: He's been a great setup guy, you know, seven to
Speaker 2: eighth inning type. I think Louis Arlin's got the stuff
Speaker 2: where he's going to find a way to work himself
Speaker 2: into some saves, or Jeff Poffin is going to help
Speaker 2: him work his way into saves this year. I sort
Speaker 2: of like Louis Barland as a reserve pick.
Speaker 1: We've got Drake Jamison, who with his expected EARRA of
Speaker 1: eleven so from last year, granted he didn't throw that
Speaker 1: many pitches fifty three pitches most of the time in
Speaker 1: the minor league. It's obviously been hurt a lot, but
Speaker 1: does throw very very hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I know where you stand on Kevin
Speaker 2: yinkel as do. I that bullpen's a bit of a mess.
Speaker 2: I think we've said before you Jameson's got the best arm.
Speaker 2: Just have to see how it all unfolds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I think that I don't think
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks can compete with the Dodgers, but who can't.
Speaker 1: But I think they can compete for a wild card spot.
Speaker 1: I think it's a decent team, and the fact that
Speaker 1: they've got a bullpen that is as up in the
Speaker 1: air as it is is a little surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well again, I think I think the reason or
Speaker 2: the cause for that surprise is they're waiting for Justin
Speaker 2: Martinez to return mid season.
Speaker 1: But he's coming back from Tommy John surgery, and you
Speaker 1: said it could become August and be the same guy
Speaker 1: when he comes back. I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 1: risk there.
Speaker 2: There is a ton of risk, and it leads me
Speaker 2: to believe that Arizona isn't anywhere close to being all in,
Speaker 2: or they would have done something. I think about that
Speaker 2: bullpen other than bringing paulsy all in.
Speaker 1: Joel Paguero with the Giants, boy would talk about him forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Paguero, big arm. And when you start
Speaker 2: looking at the giant situation, if you know it, you're
Speaker 2: looking at one of one of two players right now,
Speaker 2: and you know, and for the Giant, and if Walker struggles,
Speaker 2: you're looking at the worrol. And I believes Eric Miller. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've seen Walker struggle before. I like the World's arm.
Speaker 2: He's got a big arm, brings the heat, and I
Speaker 2: think over the course of the season, he's gonna he's
Speaker 2: gonna find his way into some saves.
Speaker 1: Tim Brent Mitchenjan Mahea, twenty five year old kid with
Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies. Average velocity of ninety six point six
Speaker 1: with a wicket looking slider thirty four point ten percent
Speaker 1: whiff rate era last year of three ninety six expected
Speaker 1: ear rate of two ninety eight. Walks a few too many,
Speaker 1: but he's a two pitch pitcher with pretty good stuff.
Speaker 1: That's another good call by mister McLeod.
Speaker 2: Yeah again, you're looking and you're looking at the Rockies
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't think Bud Nick or Jimmy Hurget.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're per sae the long term answer,
Speaker 2: you know, up and down from both of them. It's
Speaker 2: hard to recommend a Rockies picture, but of all the
Speaker 2: pictures in Rocky Land, he would be one that I
Speaker 2: would look at, and you know, the deepest of leagues,
Speaker 2: I can see the potential is there for him to
Speaker 2: earn a saber too, and possibly move up in that
Speaker 2: pecking order. In Colorado.
Speaker 1: VONNC throws really hard, one hundred miles an hour, but
Speaker 1: it's pretty straight, and guys hit the ball harder than
Speaker 1: you think. He's got a wicket change up. Nobody hits
Speaker 1: his change up hard. I mean, it's an batting average
Speaker 1: of one oh nine, expected batting average one thirty five.
Speaker 1: I if I were him, he's not throwing his cutter
Speaker 1: very much, but he's throwing his cutter at ninety three
Speaker 1: miles an hour. I'd probably throw his cutter a little
Speaker 1: bit more than his four seamer even though it throws
Speaker 1: a four seamer as hard as he does. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a straight to me and it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: got to expect it' slug a four to seventy seven.
Speaker 1: So you know, he needs to put some wiggle on
Speaker 1: his for singer. If he doesn't have that in his, uh,
Speaker 1: his repertoire, then he probably needs to switch pitches otherwise
Speaker 1: he will get hit hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll you'll have days where you know, you'll like, like,
Speaker 2: look like Josh Hater and you will have days where
Speaker 2: he looks like Kevin Yinkle. It will be all over
Speaker 2: the map. And that's stuff to rock.
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Tim. Let's take our final break back and
Speaker 1: let's wrap this puppy up outstanding. What seven you will
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Speaker 1: going to win people leagues this year.
Speaker 2: I thank you so much, Rich, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a labor of love and it's one that
Speaker 2: I really enjoy and I hope our listeners get as
Speaker 2: much as possible out of it. Then Hey, find me
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Speaker 2: I'm that type of guy. Rich all right, So.
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure out what's going on. So Tim Scott
Speaker 1: is his his draft coming up this week with Baseball HQ.
Speaker 1: What is it the the tout Wars. So that's cool,
Speaker 1: that's coming up. And then next they were off, but
Speaker 1: Monday were coming back in the evening with a draft.
Speaker 1: So I'll be put out to our Patreon members, So
Speaker 1: look for Tim starting to recruit some people out there.
Speaker 1: David Boy gets an automatic invite because he won last
Speaker 1: year if he wants to participate. Yeah, so, uh, well done,
Speaker 1: and we're going to be running that on Monday. What
Speaker 1: we decided seven o'clock. That's what we said, seven Eastern,
Speaker 1: So a little bit late for some people in our
Speaker 1: European market, but hey, stay up a little bit later
Speaker 1: and join us for that. But so Tim and I
Speaker 1: will be doing that on Monday, So expect the podcast
Speaker 1: shortly after this. That's what we've got coming up in
Speaker 1: next week's, next couple of weeks, and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: Sleepers and got all that going into the regular season,
Speaker 1: and then then we buckle up to him. We've got
Speaker 1: the WBC and we got the start of the season,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's gonna fly fast and furious over the next
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And yeah, I had hard to believe.
Speaker 2: It seems like just yesterday we were, you know, we
Speaker 2: were talking prospects prior to Christmas, and yeah, you we've
Speaker 2: turned out an amazing amount of information and hope, hopefully,
Speaker 2: hopefully it helps our listeners. But now we're we're in
Speaker 2: that last frantic dash to see what happens as far
Speaker 2: as roster positions, who's winning, what is losing what? And hey,
Speaker 2: it's just nice to have games back and watching baseball.
Speaker 2: It's it's a long winter without our favorite game, isn't it?
Speaker 1: It is? Indeed, Timmy, what's for dinner?
Speaker 2: What's for dinner? I'm looking at having some RIGATONI. It's
Speaker 2: past the time. Wow, gotta gotta have some Sunday past
Speaker 2: It's it's time. And what about yourself? I've got cookies, man,
Speaker 2: So you got cookies? Who needs food? Right?
Speaker 1: I got cookies. I don't know, and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what we're having, but uh, definitely gonna have cookies on
Speaker 1: a fill up on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And I'm very fortunate. I've got a good
Speaker 2: group of people that I've become fairly fairly with a
Speaker 2: lot of them fairly good friends. And one of the
Speaker 2: young nurses that I drive occasionally, she's from Vietnam. So
Speaker 2: she brought me back some chocolate cakes from Vietnam. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to be having them for desserts. So a
Speaker 2: big shout out to cc I, thank you very much
Speaker 2: for spoiling me with some Vietnamese pastries.
Speaker 1: Wow, CC a listener, I hope.
Speaker 2: Well, she might be for this podcast. I'll let you know.
Speaker 2: I gave her a big show. Just a wonderful young lady.
Speaker 1: Sounds. I think you've mentioned her before, Timmy, it's been
Speaker 1: a blast. We'll talk to you on Monday, my friend.
Speaker 1: Everybody have a good week, and you got questions, let
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Speaker 2: Be well, be safe, be well, and we'll catch your
Speaker 2: Monday night for draft time.