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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in the house, Yes, there is. Every Thursday at

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<v Speaker 1>five oh six, doctor Catherine Wheeler kind enough to join us.

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<v Speaker 1>And doctor Wheeler used to perform abortions. Now she's a

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<v Speaker 1>hero of the pro life movement and saving lives and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so great to have her every Thursday because we

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<v Speaker 1>can then get into the facts, the medical facts as

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<v Speaker 1>they pertain to some of the big abortion related issues

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. And it's been my experience at least

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<v Speaker 1>that the more people learn about the true medical facts,

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<v Speaker 1>the more.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely they are to be pro life. Doctor welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Dan Caplis Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, thank you, it's great to be with you again.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, and I know that today we're going to zero

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<v Speaker 2>in on these different articles folks are reading out there

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<v Speaker 2>that allege that wait a second, these abortion restrictions that

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<v Speaker 2>are now being passed in many states after Roe Fell

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<v Speaker 2>are putting women at risk. Can you address that from

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<v Speaker 2>a medical standpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, thank you. We talked last time about one of

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<v Speaker 3>the Pro Publica articles, and so today i'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>address two more and also leave an invitation if any

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<v Speaker 3>of your readers have questions or want to submit something

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<v Speaker 3>they want to hear about. I'd love to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>if that's all right with you. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about two Pro Publica articles that came out last September.

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<v Speaker 3>And the claim is that abortion restrictions are killing women.

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<v Speaker 3>And these two women were from Georgia, and both of

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<v Speaker 3>them actually died due to complications of the abortion pill.

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<v Speaker 3>That women are essentially left on their own to manage

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<v Speaker 3>complications and they're told they're safe, nothing to worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them was Ambery Nicole Sermon, who was in

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<v Speaker 3>early pregnancy, traveled out of state to get a surgical abortion,

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<v Speaker 3>got to her appointment late, so they offered her drugs instead,

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<v Speaker 3>and she went home and had was they called in

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<v Speaker 3>the article a rare complication, but actually it happens about

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<v Speaker 3>five to eight percent of the time where not everything

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<v Speaker 3>passes after the baby dies, it's called an incomplete abortion,

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<v Speaker 3>and most of the time what's left in is pieces

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<v Speaker 3>of placenta, but she went to her local er after

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<v Speaker 3>a while and was quite ill. When she got there,

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<v Speaker 3>she was septic, meaning that she had infection throughout her

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<v Speaker 3>body from tissue being left in and unfortunately, the doctor

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason waited twenty hours to give her the

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<v Speaker 3>surgical treatment that she needed and she died on the

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<v Speaker 3>operating table. Horribly tragic. But this is being claimed to

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<v Speaker 3>be due to the Georgia abortion law that it passed,

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<v Speaker 3>and the article is full of missing information, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why I want to address some of the key things.

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<v Speaker 3>They say. The DNC DNC or dilation and curatage is

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<v Speaker 3>essentially sucking out or gently scraping out any tissue that's

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<v Speaker 3>left in the uterus, and they're saying that that's outlawed

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<v Speaker 3>with abortion, but it's not. We use that same procedure

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<v Speaker 3>for people who have unfortunately had a miscarriage and the

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<v Speaker 3>baby hasn't completely passed. We use it to diagnose uterine cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>we use it for all kinds of indications. So procedures

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<v Speaker 3>are not illegal, but the use of them to end

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<v Speaker 3>to prequeing life is. And the second case I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to talk with you, and I guess the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>i'd say about that is this is actually medical negligence.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the abortion bands. It was completely legal that

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<v Speaker 3>medical team should have stepped in immediately to save her life.

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<v Speaker 3>There was nothing in that law that outlaws and there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing in the law in any state that would keep

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<v Speaker 3>doctor from giving indicated care in this situation. The second case,

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<v Speaker 3>again it was the drugs for abortion, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who ordered them online, which we can now do,

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<v Speaker 3>and she got them from a site in the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 3>The drugs actually come from India, so they're not actually

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<v Speaker 3>under the FDA control, so you don't know how much

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<v Speaker 3>of getting if you're getting the right drugs. She never

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<v Speaker 3>saw a physician. She was forty one years old. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>knew how far along she was in pregnancy, so she

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<v Speaker 3>could have been much further along. She did have some

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<v Speaker 3>health conditions, but her family found her dead and her

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<v Speaker 3>autopsy showed again an incomplete abortion, which again is not rare.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens up to eight percent of the time with

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<v Speaker 3>these drugs, and it happens more the further along that

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<v Speaker 3>a person is, So you know, the real tragedy in

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<v Speaker 3>these cases is it's not the abortion restrictions these drugs

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<v Speaker 3>actually have serious complicated rate. Sixty percent of abortions now

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States are done with these drugs. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to see a doctor in person, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>completely unsupervised at home, and there's nobody to call and

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<v Speaker 3>to help you locally if you have a complication, so

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<v Speaker 3>women tend to delay getting in for care. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think those are the important things people need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>The last thing I'd say is these are less than

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<v Speaker 3>one percent of induced abortions are for women with health

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<v Speaker 3>complications like the second woman, Candy Miller, So these are

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<v Speaker 3>extremely rare. And if there are concerns that doctors don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what to do with these new laws, it's our

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<v Speaker 3>responsibility to understand our laws and what we can do,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is medical negligence not to intervene to save

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<v Speaker 3>a woman's lives. I find that really unfathomable, doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine Wheeler, our guests, going back to your last point

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<v Speaker 2>expanding a doctor, what percentage of abortions roughly in America

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<v Speaker 2>today are conducted because there's and I'm not saying they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be justified in this case, but because a baby is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be born with severe disabilities et cetera, or

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<v Speaker 2>the result of say a rape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so each of these circumstances are about one percent

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<v Speaker 3>the life of the mother. And again you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait until the woman is on jess Stoor. If

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<v Speaker 3>she has a life threatening complication, you can immediately intervene

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<v Speaker 3>and end that pregnancy to save her life. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>about one percent. Genetic anomalies and other birth effects are

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<v Speaker 3>about one to two percent, and rape and in faster

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<v Speaker 3>are well under one.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent in my last right, right exactly, And obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the argument, the political argument, will be made out

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<v Speaker 2>to be some very large percentage. But the reality that

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<v Speaker 2>we come back to, and I'm just talking medically here,

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<v Speaker 2>is that in each and every case, the abortion is

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<v Speaker 2>the intentional killing of an innocent human life, just as

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of medical fact, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the whole goal, according to the CDC definition, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole goal of an abortion is to not have a

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<v Speaker 3>life first. Yeah, that's their language, which means the intention

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<v Speaker 3>is that the baby be.

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<v Speaker 2>And my final question for you today, doctors, is the

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<v Speaker 2>record keeping in abortion in Colorado and America. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>any other area of medicine where the record keeping is

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<v Speaker 2>so sporadic and how would you describe it in this

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in Colorado there is supposed to be voluntary reporting

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<v Speaker 3>to the state, although we know it's not happening, and

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<v Speaker 3>we used to be able to get the numbers of

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<v Speaker 3>at least just stational ages and the type of abortion

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<v Speaker 3>that was done. But with our new constitutional amendment, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not clear to the health departments they can even release

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<v Speaker 3>any information. It is very unusual. There is report in

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<v Speaker 3>about nineteen ninety nine approximately about error in the medical system,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the really important things to develop a

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<v Speaker 3>having and to get really good data. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>the pilots, it's keeping data, assessing the data, doing quality

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<v Speaker 3>and improvement. We know that's important for healthcare because we

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<v Speaker 3>know there are a lot of medical errors and our

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<v Speaker 3>job is to provide safe care as safe as humanly

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<v Speaker 3>possible as human beings. And unfortunately with the abortion system,

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<v Speaker 3>it is all hidden. The majority of states don't report complications.

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<v Speaker 3>In Colorado, they combine abortion deak with maternal deaths, so

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<v Speaker 3>we don't even know how many women are dying in

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado from abortions. There's no way to find out boy.

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<v Speaker 2>For something they're so proud of right that they sure

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to know about it, at least the facts,

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers, the statistics. But doctor, as always you are

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<v Speaker 2>an invaluable resource and appreciate your time today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Dane very much, little talking E.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak, Thank you that is Doctor Catherine Wheeler three or

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<v Speaker 2>awful lot of ground to cover, including something we touched

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<v Speaker 2>on in the first hour. We have these rash of

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<v Speaker 2>deaths now and I know unfortunately they're going on all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, from people killed on the roadway

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<v Speaker 2>by wildlife, either swerving to avoid or hitting the wildlife.

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<v Speaker 2>See if you have any tips what people should do

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<v Speaker 2>in those situations. And what about those people who break

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<v Speaker 2>four animals any kind of animal? Do you think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the responsible thing to do. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't pay two hundred million dollars to just quote

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<v Speaker 7>make something go away. You pay two hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 7>because you know you got caught red handed systematically discriminating

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<v Speaker 7>against Jewish students. That's why you pay, That's why you

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<v Speaker 7>change your policies. If elections have consequences. If Trump had

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<v Speaker 7>not won, they would still be doing it today. Thank

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<v Speaker 7>god he pushed back on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings right on target. They're Columbia forking over two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million. You know, there are so many lasting contributions

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<v Speaker 2>from Trump that will go beyond, well beyond is two terms,

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<v Speaker 2>just because the spell was broken, right and people got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to see that. Wait a second, Yes, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so wrong. Things we assumed would always be done right.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a lot of corruption there and that it is

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<v Speaker 2>possible to fix. It is possible to make progress. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of those examples when you have these

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<v Speaker 2>great universities that have just become that not only this

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<v Speaker 2>extension of the Democratic Party, but shutting down other viewpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the point of depriving people of their

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional rights. We've seen with with Jewish students. And listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know me, I've been an air now almost thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even thirty years, and I'm not afraid of anybody's ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I want that battle of ideas. But the

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<v Speaker 2>whole idea of academia right is you can have that

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<v Speaker 2>free exchange of ideas, But then you get so many

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<v Speaker 2>of these universities that just become a tool of the left.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very bad for this country. It's not a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of punishing these universities for free speech, quite the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of acting within the law to force

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<v Speaker 2>them to try to honor free speech on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, I think the nation long term, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting to see how the history books treat Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump based upon everything that's happened so far, and I

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<v Speaker 2>expect that to continue. I think history books are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be very very kind to him, and it will

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<v Speaker 2>start with the fact that the country does so well

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<v Speaker 2>books will treat the president?

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<v Speaker 8>The history books, yeah, or what other kind of It

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<v Speaker 8>Ran McNally or whoever you know authors these books. Now

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<v Speaker 2>every day hundreds of flights grounded, but right now all

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<v Speaker 2>many great texts coming in on how to better protect

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<v Speaker 2>if you weren't with us earlier. We had somebody lose

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't happen that often, but it can be fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I've got to believe that it's a mindset

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had a lot of Texters say, hey, just

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of situations good advice. But then we

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<v Speaker 2>throw out the question how big does a critter have

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I think this last text or make a

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<v Speaker 2>for me as an animal lover, you know, really hard

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I've got to get in that mindset, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>Where can I find the clip of the mother speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about marijuana and her son. I'm really wanting to share that.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like exactly what our family is currently going

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<v Speaker 2>through right now. Love the show and love the common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks and thanks for asking. Johnny's Ambassadors is the website

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<v Speaker 2>and I follow them on acts Johnny's Ambassadors and they

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<v Speaker 2>put up all these tremendous clips and you can see

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<v Speaker 2>they're very authentic. These are heartbroken mothers who've had their

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<v Speaker 2>of getting hooked on THHC. Very very compelling. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very courageously stood up and wanted to help

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<v Speaker 2>save others. And that's how this site was born. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find it there. We'll play another one of those

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<v Speaker 2>clips before the end of the show today to three

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<v Speaker 2>game plan when we come back, you know, we'll play

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<v Speaker 2>so important for us to hear this, be able to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to other people we know about it. Just this

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<v Speaker 2>big lie from big marijuana and all the politicians who

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<v Speaker 2>all that all that garbage. No so much harm being

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hey, let's go to Bill and Inglewood. You're on

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Dan, thanks for taking my call. I used to

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<v Speaker 5>travel a lot in heavily wooded country back in Missouri Kansas,

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<v Speaker 5>and a moose will just fly in all of the weight,

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<v Speaker 5>will fly into the windshield because they're so tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've installed on my daughter's car where she lives

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<v Speaker 5>where there's animals, I've installed these whistlers. There's one on

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<v Speaker 5>it's supposed to be like a dog whistle. They can

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<v Speaker 5>when you drive home tonight, you're in their backyard. That's

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<v Speaker 5>eyes out before seventy is an anomaly. But you know

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<v Speaker 5>they built that big animal underpass going up Genesee. That's

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<v Speaker 5>because that's their pathway. And they build those pathways all

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Well, thank you, Bill, I really appreciate that. And

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<v Speaker 2>where you find these whistlers, excuse me, where you find

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<v Speaker 5>I got a pair at Walmart one time, but I

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now stores, yeah, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't appreciate that legit Okay, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You take care of Bill and Ingle would appreciate that

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<v Speaker 2>if you just joined us. We've been talking about with

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<v Speaker 2>So we've been talking about, Hey, what should our mindset

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<v Speaker 2>be and what situation do you stop? And what situation

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<v Speaker 2>and Longmont. You're on the Dan Caplis Show. Welcome Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I am living the dream singing cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I mean you're always living the dream. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>tell you what I you know. I called about Ozzie

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<v Speaker 4>Osbourne and I wanted to read something to you out

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<v Speaker 4>of Acollins New Encyclopedia from nineteen twenty one. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>definition of Lucifer and Ozzie said, sings a song about

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but tell me something about Ozzy Osbourne, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about him. Was he into this satanic stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's what I want to read this definition and

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan knows about it because of the music, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>It says the morning Star the name given to the

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<v Speaker 4>the prince of darkness Satan. And so Ozzie claimed to

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know anything. Yeah, I don't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about Isa Osbourne. Was he Was he into this satanic stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Yton, let me ask.

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<v Speaker 4>Kid Rock, all all those musicians, and then how much

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<v Speaker 4>The musician that you say that opposed marijuana? I can't

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<v Speaker 4>remember his name now. It slipped the Elton John he

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<v Speaker 4>there's a there's a song about Black Sabbath called Sweetly

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<v Speaker 4>and it starts out and it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. She came out and talked about how it was

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<v Speaker 2>ruining her and she quit, same as Elton John did.

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<v Speaker 2>But pay Tracy appreciate the call name. We'll go to

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<v Speaker 2>our Ozzy Osbourne, Yes, sir, we'll go to Ozzy Osbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>Expert Ryan schuling Hi Ozzy Osbourne into the satanic stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's a gimmick, right, And I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>It was a stick.

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<v Speaker 6>In my view, it was an act.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think it's fair to blame Ozzy Osbourne as

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<v Speaker 8>why Kelly's laughing at that. That's morbid and cruel and

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<v Speaker 8>awful and terrible of her. But there was a really

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<v Speaker 6>Osbourne and ac DC along those lines.

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<v Speaker 8>There was some Holy Roller evangelicals that said ac d

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<v Speaker 8>C stood for Antichrist devil child, that's not true, or

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<v Speaker 8>And again I think Ozzy was just performative art. He

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody had asked him directly, right, what did he say?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, I just saw a clip of him with

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<v Speaker 8>David Letterman from like nineteen eighty two, and he was

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<v Speaker 8>relatively young there as well, and he was pretty much.

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<v Speaker 6>Out of it.

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<v Speaker 8>He looked like he was pretty drug out of his mind,

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<v Speaker 8>for lack of a better phrase. But again, I think

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<v Speaker 8>it was just this kind of image of the goth

427
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<v Speaker 8>kind of heavy metal image he was portraying. It was

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<v Speaker 8>like a character and the music embodied that character. And

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<v Speaker 8>maybe some of the lyrics that Tracey's talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Our last caller says, he's starting interrupt my friend. Our

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<v Speaker 2>last caller says, he called himself the Prince of Darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his nickname. True, that was his nickname. Well

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<v Speaker 2>did you yeah, I want here.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't laughing about that.

435
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<v Speaker 2>But he did eat a bat on stage.

436
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<v Speaker 8>He pit the head off of bat on He thought

437
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<v Speaker 8>it was a toy or like a rubber bat, and it.

438
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<v Speaker 6>Was actually a real bat.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a real bat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he's a little Does that tell you there

442
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<v Speaker 2>was a little substance abuse going on in Aussie's life.

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<v Speaker 5>But I wasn't laughing about teams suicide.

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<v Speaker 6>Bryan, Well, that was bad timing then by.

445
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<v Speaker 2>You, okay, whatever, of course, not which which goes to

446
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<v Speaker 2>some of these textures we're getting as we played that,

447
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<v Speaker 2>the sound from moms talking about how marijuana has ruined

448
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<v Speaker 2>the kids. I mean, more than half the teen suicides

449
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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado, and we all know that's like the ultimate nightmare,

450
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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate horror, right is a child or a teen

451
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<v Speaker 2>committing suicide. But more than half, you know, those teens

452
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<v Speaker 2>have marijuana in their system, and so it's just I

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<v Speaker 2>have to believe if every Colorado knew of the big

454
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<v Speaker 2>spike and teen suicides after legalization of marijuana, people would

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<v Speaker 2>reverse Amendment sixty four. I just have to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, one quick note on this. That's why when

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<v Speaker 2>you know you talk about okay, is Ozzy Osbourne saying

458
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<v Speaker 2>He's Prince of darkness. This satan stuff, man, it is.

459
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<v Speaker 2>It is real, and I need thirty seconds to tell

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<v Speaker 2>the story. But I'll never forget It's It's one of

461
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<v Speaker 2>the most wild things I've ever experienced in my life.

462
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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a younger lawyer and I'm driving out to

463
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<v Speaker 2>meet a potential client. And I get within maybe a

464
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<v Speaker 2>mile or two of the home in Lakewood that I'm

465
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<v Speaker 2>traveling to, and I start to get this really weird

466
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<v Speaker 2>feeling that I've never had before. And it was fear

467
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<v Speaker 2>mixed with something else and wants that. So I keep

468
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<v Speaker 2>driving and it intensifies, and then I pull up to

469
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<v Speaker 2>the house and there are all these cars in front

470
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<v Speaker 2>of the house. Okay, weird. I go in, I sit down.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to this person who says that they were

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<v Speaker 2>badly injured in such and such a potential client and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm sitting there and I hear this rustling around.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear this rustling around in the basement, and I

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<v Speaker 2>see these two big black dogs and I can't remember

476
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<v Speaker 2>what type, but big evil looking black dogs, you know,

477
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<v Speaker 2>behind a fenced off kitchen area. And then I hear

478
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<v Speaker 2>some movement behind me, like out in front of the bushes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then i'd look at this person more closely, and

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<v Speaker 2>the person with them, and she has this tattoo under

481
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<v Speaker 2>her eye, and then I look more closely and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Satanic symbol. And then I'm looking around the room,

483
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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, I see like these

484
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<v Speaker 2>five or six satanic grobes on hooks over here. So

485
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<v Speaker 2>I got up in the middle of a sentence and

486
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<v Speaker 2>I tailed it out of there. And my guess, Ryan

487
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<v Speaker 2>is there was some kind of ceremony planned, and I

488
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<v Speaker 2>was probably on the menu that the fact that I

489
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<v Speaker 2>could feel it, I could feel it a couple of

490
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<v Speaker 2>miles away, there's no doubt that that evil is real. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, for what it's worth, I'm just glad I

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<v Speaker 2>got out of there. What do you think they had planned? Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Good thing you didn't find out ritualistic sacrifice.

494
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<v Speaker 2>When I'm glad. You're glad I didn't find out warms

495
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<v Speaker 2>my heart? Three or three someone three eight, two, five

496
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<v Speaker 2>five the number you're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Now and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You always know whoever's music we played that day has

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, but beautiful, but not every day? How did

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<v Speaker 2>anybody stay awake? I mean, you can never drive with

501
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<v Speaker 2>that music, right?

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<v Speaker 6>I think some people do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen, Dan, you're driving around here with these maniac crotch

505
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<v Speaker 8>rockets going by at one hundred twenty miles an hour.

506
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<v Speaker 8>I need something to call me down, I know, and

507
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<v Speaker 8>that might be Chuck MANGIONI rip.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, I have to tell you, after all these years,

509
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<v Speaker 2>my mindset when I get behind the wheel is changed

510
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>as of today. It probably should have changed a long

511
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 2>time ago because I'm the guy and Air always barking about, hey,

512
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<v Speaker 2>don't go when the light turns green, look both ways

513
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<v Speaker 2>when the light turns green, because you have so many

514
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 2>people going through intersections. And I think that advice is

515
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<v Speaker 2>help some people. But what I've learned today from some

516
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 2>of our textures has really helped me because with two

517
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>people high profile losing their life with wildlife collisions and

518
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 2>avoidance in the last couple of weeks. I think when

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<v Speaker 2>I get behind the wheel tonight, I'm going to be

520
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<v Speaker 2>head and driving down through the mountains back to Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I get in with the mindset that my

522
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<v Speaker 2>default is going to be to break and brace for

523
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<v Speaker 2>impact rather than swerve. Now, we've had some great textures

524
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<v Speaker 2>point out and colors point out that wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about one of these long legged animals,

526
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<v Speaker 2>big long legged animals like a moose, or you may

527
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<v Speaker 2>have a cow or a big elk, that could spell

528
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>death for you, Dan, because if you brace and then

529
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<v Speaker 2>just take the impact, because the lakes are so long,

530
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have that full body crashing through your windshield.

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<v Speaker 2>So no question. If it happens in such a way

532
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<v Speaker 2>that I can calculate, you know, then if the animal

533
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<v Speaker 2>is like that, then I'm going to swerve if I can't.

534
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.079
<v Speaker 2>But you may have traffic on both sides, but default,

535
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 2>if it's a bang bang deal, I think my default

536
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<v Speaker 2>is going to be and I'm just saying this for me.

537
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving advice to anybody else because this isn't

538
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<v Speaker 2>black and white stuff. I think, look both ways. When

539
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the light turns green is black and white stuff. What

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<v Speaker 2>to do in a bang bang like this with a

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<v Speaker 2>big animal? Yeah, what's your default?

542
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<v Speaker 4>Right?

543
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<v Speaker 2>Because it hasn't even been on my radar before today,

544
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<v Speaker 2>But now when I go through my little checkli behind

545
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<v Speaker 2>the wheel, I'm adding this.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, when you're driving around rural Michigan in during hunting

547
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<v Speaker 8>season in mid November, you got to have your head

548
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<v Speaker 8>on a swivel, and especially at night, you got to

549
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<v Speaker 8>put your brights on when you can. You got to

550
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<v Speaker 8>drive slower than you normally would, and you really have

551
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<v Speaker 8>to be looking out for deer and even then, like

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<v Speaker 8>an earlier texter said, you might not be able to

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<v Speaker 8>help it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, oh no, that's right, because sometimes I mean right.

555
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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I'm thinking about mindset.

556
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mindset is so critical to everything in life that you

558
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<v Speaker 2>have to anticipate what's the default. And I think for me, obviously,

559
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<v Speaker 2>it's so easy to see something going horribly wrong if

560
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<v Speaker 2>you swerve, you know, I think my default is going

561
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<v Speaker 2>to be to just break and brace. But again, appreciate

562
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<v Speaker 2>everybody said, hey, with those big animals that could be deadly, Well, hey,

563
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<v Speaker 2>a little preview of tomorrow's show. I want to and

564
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get too heavy on a Friday.

565
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<v Speaker 2>We always say that and then we do just because

566
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<v Speaker 2>of human events. But I really do want to spend

567
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<v Speaker 2>some time talking about is it time to make first

568
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 2>time drunk driving and drug driving a felony? Is it

569
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>time to have some mandatory jail for those first defenses?

570
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<v Speaker 2>And I look forward to hearing what people have to

571
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<v Speaker 2>say about that. I just think that our traffic laws

572
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<v Speaker 2>in general, you know, when it comes to the really

573
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<v Speaker 2>dangerous stuff, are just way too lax, just way too lax.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we have so many great Texters on

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<v Speaker 2>it today, Ryan, who have talked about what you and

576
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<v Speaker 2>I have talked about before, which is the lack of

577
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<v Speaker 2>enforcement out there. And obviously we can't blame law enforcement

578
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 2>for that. It's budgets being cut by the left. It's

579
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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement not getting the support it needs from the left.

580
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<v Speaker 2>But we all know it because we're all on the roads.

581
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<v Speaker 2>There is just much much less enforcement. And with that,

582
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 2>these truly reckless drivers just feel completely, you know, unbridled,

583
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>and it becomes thunderbelm out there there. You go, so

584
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>much enforcement would you want to.

585
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<v Speaker 8>See, you know, if somebody's going fifteen to twenty miles

586
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<v Speaker 8>over the speed limit, then that needs to be reeled

587
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<v Speaker 8>in a little bit.

588
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's not happening.

589
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The enforcement i'd like to see, and again, don't blame

591
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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. We're talking about the politicians here. The enforcement

592
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see would be that enforcement aimed at

593
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 2>the reckless drivers. And you know, I think that's the key.

594
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that speed limits should be disobeyed

595
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. I'm just saying that that if

596
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 2>we could at least get the politicians to fund enough

597
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 2>enforcement that people are pretty sure if they drive recklessly

598
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>on the roadway that they're going to be hammered. Yeah.

599
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that would make an enormous difference. And then

600
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<v Speaker 2>we need the laws to change, right, because one of

601
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the many things undermining law enforcement is the penalties for

602
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>an awful lot of serious driving are so light that

603
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>law enforcem does all this work, and then what actually

604
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>happens to the person. I guarantee you, across party lines,

605
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>our audience would want to throw up, and then they'd

606
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>want to kill somebody if they knew how many people

607
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>were out there killing people, killing people on the roadway

608
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>through careless driving and never serving a day. How many

609
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>people were out there inflicting catastrophic injury on people so

610
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>they may not pass away, but they're left with these

611
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>debilitating lifetime brain injuries, spine injuries, etc. Through really careless

612
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<v Speaker 2>driving and then they get a slap on the wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>People have no idea how bad it is out there,

614
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<v Speaker 2>and we need major changes that the legislature on that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what do you think the voters of the

616
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<v Speaker 2>state would do on a ballot issue on that.

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<v Speaker 6>That might be a good topic for tomorrow, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think there are so many, so many

619
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<v Speaker 2>important changes for Colorado that could be accomplished through ballot measure.

620
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<v Speaker 2>We're never going to get through a lefty legislature, but

621
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<v Speaker 2>could be accomplished uo Bella measure. It's easy to say, right,

622
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>they're so expensive, etc. But the state, the people of

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<v Speaker 2>the state are nowhere near as far left as the

624
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>lefties who own and operate this place. Thank you, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow on the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Kapli Show.
