Speaker 1: This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: five oh six, doctor Catherine Wheeler kind enough to join us.
Speaker 1: And doctor Wheeler used to perform abortions. Now she's a
Speaker 1: hero of the pro life movement and saving lives and
Speaker 1: it's so great to have her every Thursday because we
Speaker 1: can then get into the facts, the medical facts as
Speaker 1: they pertain to some of the big abortion related issues
Speaker 1: of the day. And it's been my experience at least
Speaker 1: that the more people learn about the true medical facts,
Speaker 1: the more.
Speaker 2: Likely they are to be pro life. Doctor welcome back
Speaker 2: to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3: Dan, thank you, it's great to be with you again.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Thanks, and I know that today we're going to zero
Speaker 2: in on these different articles folks are reading out there
Speaker 2: that allege that wait a second, these abortion restrictions that
Speaker 2: are now being passed in many states after Roe Fell
Speaker 2: are putting women at risk. Can you address that from
Speaker 2: a medical standpoint.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. We talked last time about one of
Speaker 3: the Pro Publica articles, and so today i'd like to
Speaker 3: address two more and also leave an invitation if any
Speaker 3: of your readers have questions or want to submit something
Speaker 3: they want to hear about. I'd love to do that,
Speaker 3: if that's all right with you. But I wanted to
Speaker 3: talk about two Pro Publica articles that came out last September.
Speaker 3: And the claim is that abortion restrictions are killing women.
Speaker 3: And these two women were from Georgia, and both of
Speaker 3: them actually died due to complications of the abortion pill.
Speaker 3: That women are essentially left on their own to manage
Speaker 3: complications and they're told they're safe, nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3: One of them was Ambery Nicole Sermon, who was in
Speaker 3: early pregnancy, traveled out of state to get a surgical abortion,
Speaker 3: got to her appointment late, so they offered her drugs instead,
Speaker 3: and she went home and had was they called in
Speaker 3: the article a rare complication, but actually it happens about
Speaker 3: five to eight percent of the time where not everything
Speaker 3: passes after the baby dies, it's called an incomplete abortion,
Speaker 3: and most of the time what's left in is pieces
Speaker 3: of placenta, but she went to her local er after
Speaker 3: a while and was quite ill. When she got there,
Speaker 3: she was septic, meaning that she had infection throughout her
Speaker 3: body from tissue being left in and unfortunately, the doctor
Speaker 3: for some reason waited twenty hours to give her the
Speaker 3: surgical treatment that she needed and she died on the
Speaker 3: operating table. Horribly tragic. But this is being claimed to
Speaker 3: be due to the Georgia abortion law that it passed,
Speaker 3: and the article is full of missing information, which is
Speaker 3: why I want to address some of the key things.
Speaker 3: They say. The DNC DNC or dilation and curatage is
Speaker 3: essentially sucking out or gently scraping out any tissue that's
Speaker 3: left in the uterus, and they're saying that that's outlawed
Speaker 3: with abortion, but it's not. We use that same procedure
Speaker 3: for people who have unfortunately had a miscarriage and the
Speaker 3: baby hasn't completely passed. We use it to diagnose uterine cancer,
Speaker 3: we use it for all kinds of indications. So procedures
Speaker 3: are not illegal, but the use of them to end
Speaker 3: to prequeing life is. And the second case I wanted
Speaker 3: to talk with you, and I guess the last thing
Speaker 3: i'd say about that is this is actually medical negligence.
Speaker 3: It's not the abortion bands. It was completely legal that
Speaker 3: medical team should have stepped in immediately to save her life.
Speaker 3: There was nothing in that law that outlaws and there's
Speaker 3: nothing in the law in any state that would keep
Speaker 3: doctor from giving indicated care in this situation. The second case,
Speaker 3: again it was the drugs for abortion, but it was
Speaker 3: a woman who ordered them online, which we can now do,
Speaker 3: and she got them from a site in the Netherlands.
Speaker 3: The drugs actually come from India, so they're not actually
Speaker 3: under the FDA control, so you don't know how much
Speaker 3: of getting if you're getting the right drugs. She never
Speaker 3: saw a physician. She was forty one years old. Nobody
Speaker 3: knew how far along she was in pregnancy, so she
Speaker 3: could have been much further along. She did have some
Speaker 3: health conditions, but her family found her dead and her
Speaker 3: autopsy showed again an incomplete abortion, which again is not rare.
Speaker 3: It happens up to eight percent of the time with
Speaker 3: these drugs, and it happens more the further along that
Speaker 3: a person is, So you know, the real tragedy in
Speaker 3: these cases is it's not the abortion restrictions these drugs
Speaker 3: actually have serious complicated rate. Sixty percent of abortions now
Speaker 3: in the United States are done with these drugs. They
Speaker 3: don't have to see a doctor in person, so they're
Speaker 3: completely unsupervised at home, and there's nobody to call and
Speaker 3: to help you locally if you have a complication, so
Speaker 3: women tend to delay getting in for care. So I
Speaker 3: think those are the important things people need to know.
Speaker 3: The last thing I'd say is these are less than
Speaker 3: one percent of induced abortions are for women with health
Speaker 3: complications like the second woman, Candy Miller, So these are
Speaker 3: extremely rare. And if there are concerns that doctors don't
Speaker 3: know what to do with these new laws, it's our
Speaker 3: responsibility to understand our laws and what we can do,
Speaker 3: and it is medical negligence not to intervene to save
Speaker 3: a woman's lives. I find that really unfathomable, doctor.
Speaker 2: Catherine Wheeler, our guests, going back to your last point
Speaker 2: expanding a doctor, what percentage of abortions roughly in America
Speaker 2: today are conducted because there's and I'm not saying they'd
Speaker 2: be justified in this case, but because a baby is
Speaker 2: going to be born with severe disabilities et cetera, or
Speaker 2: the result of say a rape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so each of these circumstances are about one percent
Speaker 3: the life of the mother. And again you don't have
Speaker 3: to wait until the woman is on jess Stoor. If
Speaker 3: she has a life threatening complication, you can immediately intervene
Speaker 3: and end that pregnancy to save her life. So that's
Speaker 3: about one percent. Genetic anomalies and other birth effects are
Speaker 3: about one to two percent, and rape and in faster
Speaker 3: are well under one.
Speaker 2: Percent in my last right, right exactly, And obviously, and
Speaker 2: that the argument, the political argument, will be made out
Speaker 2: to be some very large percentage. But the reality that
Speaker 2: we come back to, and I'm just talking medically here,
Speaker 2: is that in each and every case, the abortion is
Speaker 2: the intentional killing of an innocent human life, just as
Speaker 2: a matter of medical fact, right.
Speaker 3: Exactly, the whole goal, according to the CDC definition, the
Speaker 3: whole goal of an abortion is to not have a
Speaker 3: life first. Yeah, that's their language, which means the intention
Speaker 3: is that the baby be.
Speaker 4: Born, Tad.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: And my final question for you today, doctors, is the
Speaker 2: record keeping in abortion in Colorado and America. Is there
Speaker 2: any other area of medicine where the record keeping is
Speaker 2: so sporadic and how would you describe it in this
Speaker 2: state and nationwide?
Speaker 3: Well, in Colorado there is supposed to be voluntary reporting
Speaker 3: to the state, although we know it's not happening, and
Speaker 3: we used to be able to get the numbers of
Speaker 3: at least just stational ages and the type of abortion
Speaker 3: that was done. But with our new constitutional amendment, it's
Speaker 3: not clear to the health departments they can even release
Speaker 3: any information. It is very unusual. There is report in
Speaker 3: about nineteen ninety nine approximately about error in the medical system,
Speaker 3: and one of the really important things to develop a
Speaker 3: safe system is to know what kinds of complications you're
Speaker 3: having and to get really good data. It's just like
Speaker 3: the pilots, it's keeping data, assessing the data, doing quality
Speaker 3: and improvement. We know that's important for healthcare because we
Speaker 3: know there are a lot of medical errors and our
Speaker 3: job is to provide safe care as safe as humanly
Speaker 3: possible as human beings. And unfortunately with the abortion system,
Speaker 3: it is all hidden. The majority of states don't report complications.
Speaker 3: In Colorado, they combine abortion deak with maternal deaths, so
Speaker 3: we don't even know how many women are dying in
Speaker 3: Colorado from abortions. There's no way to find out boy.
Speaker 2: For something they're so proud of right that they sure
Speaker 2: don't want you to know about it, at least the facts,
Speaker 2: the numbers, the statistics. But doctor, as always you are
Speaker 2: an invaluable resource and appreciate your time today.
Speaker 3: Thank you Dane very much, little talking E.
Speaker 2: Speak, Thank you that is Doctor Catherine Wheeler three or
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Speaker 2: five seven seven three nine. When we come back, an
Speaker 2: awful lot of ground to cover, including something we touched
Speaker 2: on in the first hour. We have these rash of
Speaker 2: deaths now and I know unfortunately they're going on all
Speaker 2: the time, you know, from people killed on the roadway
Speaker 2: by wildlife, either swerving to avoid or hitting the wildlife.
Speaker 2: See if you have any tips what people should do
Speaker 2: in those situations. And what about those people who break
Speaker 2: four animals any kind of animal? Do you think that's
Speaker 2: the responsible thing to do. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7: You don't pay two hundred million dollars to just quote
Speaker 7: make something go away. You pay two hundred million dollars
Speaker 7: because you know you got caught red handed systematically discriminating
Speaker 7: against Jewish students. That's why you pay, That's why you
Speaker 7: change your policies. If elections have consequences. If Trump had
Speaker 7: not won, they would still be doing it today. Thank
Speaker 7: god he pushed back on them.
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings right on target. They're Columbia forking over two
Speaker 2: hundred million. You know, there are so many lasting contributions
Speaker 2: from Trump that will go beyond, well beyond is two terms,
Speaker 2: just because the spell was broken, right and people got
Speaker 2: a chance to see that. Wait a second, Yes, this
Speaker 2: is so wrong. Things we assumed would always be done right.
Speaker 2: Actually a lot of corruption there and that it is
Speaker 2: possible to fix. It is possible to make progress. And
Speaker 2: this is one of those examples when you have these
Speaker 2: great universities that have just become that not only this
Speaker 2: extension of the Democratic Party, but shutting down other viewpoint,
Speaker 2: you know, to the point of depriving people of their
Speaker 2: constitutional rights. We've seen with with Jewish students. And listen,
Speaker 2: you know me, I've been an air now almost thirty years,
Speaker 2: maybe even thirty years, and I'm not afraid of anybody's ideas,
Speaker 2: and so I want that battle of ideas. But the
Speaker 2: whole idea of academia right is you can have that
Speaker 2: free exchange of ideas, But then you get so many
Speaker 2: of these universities that just become a tool of the left.
Speaker 2: That's very bad for this country. It's not a matter
Speaker 2: of punishing these universities for free speech, quite the opposite.
Speaker 2: It's a matter of acting within the law to force
Speaker 2: them to try to honor free speech on the other side.
Speaker 2: So now, I think the nation long term, it'll be
Speaker 2: really interesting to see how the history books treat Donald
Speaker 2: Trump based upon everything that's happened so far, and I
Speaker 2: expect that to continue. I think history books are going
Speaker 2: to be very very kind to him, and it will
Speaker 2: start with the fact that the country does so well
Speaker 2: while he's president. In three h three he's seven one
Speaker 2: three eight two five five techs d A N five
Speaker 2: seven seven three nine. Brian, how do you think the
Speaker 2: books will treat the president?
Speaker 8: The history books, yeah, or what other kind of It
Speaker 8: depends on who writes them. I mean, we know that
Speaker 8: some of this is propaganda driven. Now I didn't think
Speaker 8: that when I was going to school myself, but the
Speaker 8: Ran McNally or whoever you know authors these books. Now
Speaker 8: it's going to be whatever perspective they choose to provide.
Speaker 8: They did get the Automatron at Disney World of Donald Trump.
Speaker 8: I think they were holding off on that one for
Speaker 8: a while.
Speaker 2: So he's the Well, you know, they say winners write history, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming that the winners will be the Conservatives
Speaker 2: because this stuff works. And I say that as a
Speaker 2: former Democrat. You know, this stuff works and all the
Speaker 2: reasons I was a Democrat, all the people the week,
Speaker 2: the defenseless, the powerless, working people, everybody I wanted to
Speaker 2: help as a Democrat, I never would have imagined that
Speaker 2: it's conservative stuff that actually works and the Democrats stuff doesn't.
Speaker 2: And that's back when the Democratic Party was a good
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm assuming at this point nothing's guaranteed. Right,
Speaker 2: got to do our part. But I'm assuming that with
Speaker 2: the success Trump is having in ways that really make
Speaker 2: people's lives better, that we're going to end up with
Speaker 2: one of these talented Republicans being president in twenty eight
Speaker 2: and that the success is going to continue. And that's
Speaker 2: how they you know, so you'll have history books written
Speaker 2: by people who are going to be fair to somebody
Speaker 2: like Donald Trump and not that he'd care, but I
Speaker 2: think he would three out three seven, one three eight
Speaker 2: two five five an five seven, seven, three nine. We've
Speaker 2: got all flights grounded at DA seven hundred flights delayed
Speaker 2: by thunderstorms. Here's my question, why does anybody fly out
Speaker 2: of DIA in the afternoon. You know, I made that
Speaker 2: mistake way too many times before. I just decided I'm
Speaker 2: never doing it again. Yeah, it's just it seems like
Speaker 2: every day hundreds of flights grounded, but right now all
Speaker 2: flights grounded. According to the Denver Post, We've got so
Speaker 2: many great texts coming in on how to better protect
Speaker 2: yourself on the roadway when there's wildlife. And you know,
Speaker 2: if you weren't with us earlier. We had somebody lose
Speaker 2: their life to a moose the other day, just in
Speaker 2: Metro Denver, Sea four seventy up by Quebec, and then
Speaker 2: just I tink, a couple of days before that, a
Speaker 2: woman killed swerving to avoid a deer just a couple
Speaker 2: of miles down the road on Seafour seventy. Some of
Speaker 2: the suggestions that Texter Dan size of animal matters like cows,
Speaker 2: major factor is height of hood and length of animal's
Speaker 2: legs elk, horses, and especially moose will go over the
Speaker 2: hood and through the windshield of small vehicles. See this
Speaker 2: is great insight, great insight from that text. And then
Speaker 2: we get back to the question of okay, well, how
Speaker 2: do you prepare for that as you head out on
Speaker 2: the road because none of us are expecting it, right,
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen that often, but it can be fatal.
Speaker 2: And so I've got to believe that it's a mindset
Speaker 2: which I don't have right now when I get in
Speaker 2: the car, Like I'll get in the car right after
Speaker 2: this show, and I'll drive down from the trial prep
Speaker 2: cabin to my office tomorrow for a trial prep team meeting,
Speaker 2: and as I get out on the roadway, normally I'm
Speaker 2: not doing a pilot's checklist that includes wildlife on the roadway.
Speaker 2: I think I need to change that and just kind
Speaker 2: of factor in, Okay, what's my reaction going to be.
Speaker 2: And we've had a lot of Texters say, hey, just
Speaker 2: don't swerve, because that's how people get killed, slam on
Speaker 2: the brakes, brace for impact, which I think is probably
Speaker 2: in a lot of situations good advice. But then we
Speaker 2: throw out the question how big does a critter have
Speaker 2: to be to then kill you if you hit. And
Speaker 2: that's why I think this last text or make a
Speaker 2: good point. There's no one size fits all answer. And
Speaker 2: so then how do you prepare? I think my default, Ryan,
Speaker 2: I think my default would be not to swerve. And
Speaker 2: maybe that's because I'm in a larger suv and my
Speaker 2: default would be not to swerve. And I think that's
Speaker 2: the mindset now that develop But you'll be really hard
Speaker 2: for me as an animal lover, you know, really hard
Speaker 2: for me as an animal lover. But because my instinct
Speaker 2: is going to be, oh, animal, don't don't kill it.
Speaker 2: But I think I've got to get in that mindset, Dan,
Speaker 2: Where can I find the clip of the mother speaking
Speaker 2: about marijuana and her son. I'm really wanting to share that.
Speaker 2: It sounds like exactly what our family is currently going
Speaker 2: through right now. Love the show and love the common sense.
Speaker 2: Thanks and thanks for asking. Johnny's Ambassadors is the website
Speaker 2: and I follow them on acts Johnny's Ambassadors and they
Speaker 2: put up all these tremendous clips and you can see
Speaker 2: they're very authentic. These are heartbroken mothers who've had their
Speaker 2: children go through hell, and way too often die because
Speaker 2: of getting hooked on THHC. Very very compelling. In fact,
Speaker 2: we'll have some folks from Johnny's Ambassadors with us, and
Speaker 2: Johnny Stack, if I remember correctly, was this wonderful young
Speaker 2: man who eventually lost his life to THCHC and his mom,
Speaker 2: you know, very courageously stood up and wanted to help
Speaker 2: save others. And that's how this site was born. You
Speaker 2: can find it there. We'll play another one of those
Speaker 2: clips before the end of the show today to three
Speaker 2: or three someone three eight two five five the number
Speaker 2: text d A N five seven seven three nine. So
Speaker 2: game plan when we come back, you know, we'll play
Speaker 2: another one of those clips from another mom talking about
Speaker 2: what THHC did to her child. And I think it's
Speaker 2: so important for us to hear this, be able to
Speaker 2: talk to other people we know about it. Just this
Speaker 2: big lie from big marijuana and all the politicians who
Speaker 2: pocket money from big marijuana. It's save for the alcohol,
Speaker 2: all that all that garbage. No so much harm being
Speaker 2: done to starting with the kids. Three or three someone
Speaker 2: three eight two five five texts d A N five
Speaker 2: seven seven three nine. You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, let's go to Bill and Inglewood. You're on
Speaker 2: the Dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 5: Hi Dan, thanks for taking my call. I used to
Speaker 5: travel a lot in heavily wooded country back in Missouri Kansas,
Speaker 5: and a moose will just fly in all of the weight,
Speaker 5: will fly into the windshield because they're so tall.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: But I've installed on my daughter's car where she lives
Speaker 5: where there's animals, I've installed these whistlers. There's one on
Speaker 5: each side of the front bumper and it's supposed to
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be like a dog whistle. They can
Speaker 5: hear it. But the biggest suggestion I have is, for example,
Speaker 5: when you drive home tonight, you're in their backyard. That's
Speaker 5: where they live, and you just have to keep your
Speaker 5: eyes out before seventy is an anomaly. But you know
Speaker 5: they built that big animal underpass going up Genesee. That's
Speaker 5: because that's their pathway. And they build those pathways all
Speaker 5: the way out to the planes in the east. They've
Speaker 5: been doing it for years.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, thank you, Bill, I really appreciate that. And
Speaker 2: where you find these whistlers, excuse me, where you find
Speaker 2: these whistlers.
Speaker 5: I got a pair at Walmart one time, but I
Speaker 5: think most automotive shops will have it.
Speaker 2: Okay, now stores, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5: Don't appreciate that legit Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: You take care of Bill and Ingle would appreciate that
Speaker 2: if you just joined us. We've been talking about with
Speaker 2: these two fatalities recently, most collision killing a woman on C.
Speaker 2: Four seventy in a Highlands ranch in just two miles
Speaker 2: from that, a woman swerves to avoid a deer and die.
Speaker 2: So we've been talking about, Hey, what should our mindset
Speaker 2: be and what situation do you stop? And what situation
Speaker 2: you know, do you swerve? All of that so appreciate
Speaker 2: all the expertise from the folks. Let's go to Tracy
Speaker 2: and Longmont. You're on the Dan Caplis Show. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 4: How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I am living the dream singing cowboys.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean you're always living the dream. Well, I
Speaker 4: tell you what I you know. I called about Ozzie
Speaker 4: Osbourne and I wanted to read something to you out
Speaker 4: of Acollins New Encyclopedia from nineteen twenty one. It's a
Speaker 4: definition of Lucifer and Ozzie said, sings a song about
Speaker 4: My name is Lucifer and so can I read it
Speaker 4: to you real quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but tell me something about Ozzy Osbourne, because I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about him. Was he into this satanic stuff?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I want to read this definition and
Speaker 4: Ryan knows about it because of the music, all right.
Speaker 4: It says the morning Star the name given to the
Speaker 4: planet Venus when she appears in the morning before the
Speaker 4: sun rise. Also a named calmly though inappropriately given to
Speaker 4: the prince of darkness Satan. And so Ozzie claimed to
Speaker 4: be the prince of darkness. And let me read to
Speaker 4: you in Revelations twenty two sixteen. This is what Jesus says.
Speaker 4: I Jesus have sent my angel to you with the
Speaker 4: testimony for the churches. I am the root and the
Speaker 4: offspring of David the Bright and morning Star. I just
Speaker 4: wanted you to know what Ozzie was really about.
Speaker 2: So I don't know anything. Yeah, I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about Isa Osbourne. Was he Was he into this satanic stuff?
Speaker 2: Because that's sourcing saying.
Speaker 4: Really is he he proclaims to be the prince of darkness?
Speaker 2: Well, Yton, let me ask.
Speaker 4: You and then let me tell you this to George
Speaker 4: Bush Junior had him at the White House with Sheryl Crow,
Speaker 4: Kid Rock, all all those musicians, and then how much
Speaker 4: you oppose marijuana? You know that? Uh what's his name? Uh?
Speaker 4: The musician that you say that opposed marijuana? I can't
Speaker 4: remember his name now. It slipped the Elton John he
Speaker 4: come out and you know, yeah, yeah, Big Time wrote
Speaker 4: there's a there's a song about Black Sabbath called Sweetly
Speaker 4: and it starts out and it's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. She came out and talked about how it was
Speaker 2: ruining her and she quit, same as Elton John did.
Speaker 2: But pay Tracy appreciate the call name. We'll go to
Speaker 2: our Ozzy Osbourne, Yes, sir, we'll go to Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 2: Expert Ryan schuling Hi Ozzy Osbourne into the satanic stuff.
Speaker 8: Well, it's a gimmick, right, And I think this is
Speaker 8: where we got off the rails in the eighties with
Speaker 8: Tipper Gore and the parental Advisory labels and Frank Zappa
Speaker 8: testifying in front of Congress.
Speaker 2: It was a stick.
Speaker 6: In my view, it was an act.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's fair to blame Ozzy Osbourne as
Speaker 8: he was in the eighties for teen suicides. No idea
Speaker 8: why Kelly's laughing at that. That's morbid and cruel and
Speaker 8: awful and terrible of her. But there was a really
Speaker 8: controversy with Black Sabbath and Ozzy.
Speaker 6: Osbourne and ac DC along those lines.
Speaker 8: There was some Holy Roller evangelicals that said ac d
Speaker 8: C stood for Antichrist devil child, that's not true, or
Speaker 8: KISS stood for kids in Satan's service, That's not true.
Speaker 8: And again I think Ozzy was just performative art. He
Speaker 8: was a lot like the Christopher guest character in spinal
Speaker 8: tat Nigel Toughno. I think that was based a lot
Speaker 8: on Ozzy Osbourne, his look, his vibe.
Speaker 2: Somebody had asked him directly, right, what did he say?
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I just saw a clip of him with
Speaker 8: David Letterman from like nineteen eighty two, and he was
Speaker 8: relatively young there as well, and he was pretty much.
Speaker 6: Out of it.
Speaker 8: He looked like he was pretty drug out of his mind,
Speaker 8: for lack of a better phrase. But again, I think
Speaker 8: it was just this kind of image of the goth
Speaker 8: kind of heavy metal image he was portraying. It was
Speaker 8: like a character and the music embodied that character. And
Speaker 8: maybe some of the lyrics that Tracey's talking.
Speaker 2: Our last caller says, he's starting interrupt my friend. Our
Speaker 2: last caller says, he called himself the Prince of Darkness.
Speaker 2: That was his nickname. True, that was his nickname. Well
Speaker 2: did you yeah, I want here.
Speaker 3: I wasn't laughing about that.
Speaker 2: But he did eat a bat on stage.
Speaker 8: He pit the head off of bat on He thought
Speaker 8: it was a toy or like a rubber bat, and it.
Speaker 6: Was actually a real bat.
Speaker 5: It was a real bat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's a little Does that tell you there
Speaker 2: was a little substance abuse going on in Aussie's life.
Speaker 5: But I wasn't laughing about teams suicide.
Speaker 6: Bryan, Well, that was bad timing then by.
Speaker 2: You, okay, whatever, of course, not which which goes to
Speaker 2: some of these textures we're getting as we played that,
Speaker 2: the sound from moms talking about how marijuana has ruined
Speaker 2: the kids. I mean, more than half the teen suicides
Speaker 2: in Colorado, and we all know that's like the ultimate nightmare,
Speaker 2: the ultimate horror, right is a child or a teen
Speaker 2: committing suicide. But more than half, you know, those teens
Speaker 2: have marijuana in their system, and so it's just I
Speaker 2: have to believe if every Colorado knew of the big
Speaker 2: spike and teen suicides after legalization of marijuana, people would
Speaker 2: reverse Amendment sixty four. I just have to believe that.
Speaker 2: But hey, one quick note on this. That's why when
Speaker 2: you know you talk about okay, is Ozzy Osbourne saying
Speaker 2: He's Prince of darkness. This satan stuff, man, it is.
Speaker 2: It is real, and I need thirty seconds to tell
Speaker 2: the story. But I'll never forget It's It's one of
Speaker 2: the most wild things I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 2: But I'm a younger lawyer and I'm driving out to
Speaker 2: meet a potential client. And I get within maybe a
Speaker 2: mile or two of the home in Lakewood that I'm
Speaker 2: traveling to, and I start to get this really weird
Speaker 2: feeling that I've never had before. And it was fear
Speaker 2: mixed with something else and wants that. So I keep
Speaker 2: driving and it intensifies, and then I pull up to
Speaker 2: the house and there are all these cars in front
Speaker 2: of the house. Okay, weird. I go in, I sit down.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to this person who says that they were
Speaker 2: badly injured in such and such a potential client and
Speaker 2: then I'm sitting there and I hear this rustling around.
Speaker 2: I hear this rustling around in the basement, and I
Speaker 2: see these two big black dogs and I can't remember
Speaker 2: what type, but big evil looking black dogs, you know,
Speaker 2: behind a fenced off kitchen area. And then I hear
Speaker 2: some movement behind me, like out in front of the bushes.
Speaker 2: And then i'd look at this person more closely, and
Speaker 2: the person with them, and she has this tattoo under
Speaker 2: her eye, and then I look more closely and it's
Speaker 2: a Satanic symbol. And then I'm looking around the room,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I see like these
Speaker 2: five or six satanic grobes on hooks over here. So
Speaker 2: I got up in the middle of a sentence and
Speaker 2: I tailed it out of there. And my guess, Ryan
Speaker 2: is there was some kind of ceremony planned, and I
Speaker 2: was probably on the menu that the fact that I
Speaker 2: could feel it, I could feel it a couple of
Speaker 2: miles away, there's no doubt that that evil is real. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: So anyway, for what it's worth, I'm just glad I
Speaker 2: got out of there. What do you think they had planned? Oh?
Speaker 8: Good thing you didn't find out ritualistic sacrifice.
Speaker 2: When I'm glad. You're glad I didn't find out warms
Speaker 2: my heart? Three or three someone three eight, two, five
Speaker 2: five the number you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: Now and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: You always know whoever's music we played that day has
Speaker 2: passed away, but beautiful, but not every day? How did
Speaker 2: anybody stay awake? I mean, you can never drive with
Speaker 2: that music, right?
Speaker 6: I think some people do.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 8: Listen, Dan, you're driving around here with these maniac crotch
Speaker 8: rockets going by at one hundred twenty miles an hour.
Speaker 8: I need something to call me down, I know, and
Speaker 8: that might be Chuck MANGIONI rip.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I have to tell you, after all these years,
Speaker 2: my mindset when I get behind the wheel is changed
Speaker 2: as of today. It probably should have changed a long
Speaker 2: time ago because I'm the guy and Air always barking about, hey,
Speaker 2: don't go when the light turns green, look both ways
Speaker 2: when the light turns green, because you have so many
Speaker 2: people going through intersections. And I think that advice is
Speaker 2: help some people. But what I've learned today from some
Speaker 2: of our textures has really helped me because with two
Speaker 2: people high profile losing their life with wildlife collisions and
Speaker 2: avoidance in the last couple of weeks. I think when
Speaker 2: I get behind the wheel tonight, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: head and driving down through the mountains back to Denver.
Speaker 2: I think I get in with the mindset that my
Speaker 2: default is going to be to break and brace for
Speaker 2: impact rather than swerve. Now, we've had some great textures
Speaker 2: point out and colors point out that wait a second,
Speaker 2: if you're talking about one of these long legged animals,
Speaker 2: big long legged animals like a moose, or you may
Speaker 2: have a cow or a big elk, that could spell
Speaker 2: death for you, Dan, because if you brace and then
Speaker 2: just take the impact, because the lakes are so long,
Speaker 2: you're going to have that full body crashing through your windshield.
Speaker 2: So no question. If it happens in such a way
Speaker 2: that I can calculate, you know, then if the animal
Speaker 2: is like that, then I'm going to swerve if I can't.
Speaker 2: But you may have traffic on both sides, but default,
Speaker 2: if it's a bang bang deal, I think my default
Speaker 2: is going to be and I'm just saying this for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not giving advice to anybody else because this isn't
Speaker 2: black and white stuff. I think, look both ways. When
Speaker 2: the light turns green is black and white stuff. What
Speaker 2: to do in a bang bang like this with a
Speaker 2: big animal? Yeah, what's your default?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Because it hasn't even been on my radar before today,
Speaker 2: But now when I go through my little checkli behind
Speaker 2: the wheel, I'm adding this.
Speaker 8: Well, when you're driving around rural Michigan in during hunting
Speaker 8: season in mid November, you got to have your head
Speaker 8: on a swivel, and especially at night, you got to
Speaker 8: put your brights on when you can. You got to
Speaker 8: drive slower than you normally would, and you really have
Speaker 8: to be looking out for deer and even then, like
Speaker 8: an earlier texter said, you might not be able to
Speaker 8: help it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh no, that's right, because sometimes I mean right.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm thinking about mindset.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Mindset is so critical to everything in life that you
Speaker 2: have to anticipate what's the default. And I think for me, obviously,
Speaker 2: it's so easy to see something going horribly wrong if
Speaker 2: you swerve, you know, I think my default is going
Speaker 2: to be to just break and brace. But again, appreciate
Speaker 2: everybody said, hey, with those big animals that could be deadly, Well, hey,
Speaker 2: a little preview of tomorrow's show. I want to and
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too heavy on a Friday.
Speaker 2: We always say that and then we do just because
Speaker 2: of human events. But I really do want to spend
Speaker 2: some time talking about is it time to make first
Speaker 2: time drunk driving and drug driving a felony? Is it
Speaker 2: time to have some mandatory jail for those first defenses?
Speaker 2: And I look forward to hearing what people have to
Speaker 2: say about that. I just think that our traffic laws
Speaker 2: in general, you know, when it comes to the really
Speaker 2: dangerous stuff, are just way too lax, just way too lax.
Speaker 2: And you know, we have so many great Texters on
Speaker 2: it today, Ryan, who have talked about what you and
Speaker 2: I have talked about before, which is the lack of
Speaker 2: enforcement out there. And obviously we can't blame law enforcement
Speaker 2: for that. It's budgets being cut by the left. It's
Speaker 2: law enforcement not getting the support it needs from the left.
Speaker 2: But we all know it because we're all on the roads.
Speaker 2: There is just much much less enforcement. And with that,
Speaker 2: these truly reckless drivers just feel completely, you know, unbridled,
Speaker 2: and it becomes thunderbelm out there there. You go, so
Speaker 2: much enforcement would you want to.
Speaker 8: See, you know, if somebody's going fifteen to twenty miles
Speaker 8: over the speed limit, then that needs to be reeled
Speaker 8: in a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The enforcement i'd like to see, and again, don't blame
Speaker 2: law enforcement. We're talking about the politicians here. The enforcement
Speaker 2: I'd like to see would be that enforcement aimed at
Speaker 2: the reckless drivers. And you know, I think that's the key.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that speed limits should be disobeyed
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I'm just saying that that if
Speaker 2: we could at least get the politicians to fund enough
Speaker 2: enforcement that people are pretty sure if they drive recklessly
Speaker 2: on the roadway that they're going to be hammered. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that would make an enormous difference. And then
Speaker 2: we need the laws to change, right, because one of
Speaker 2: the many things undermining law enforcement is the penalties for
Speaker 2: an awful lot of serious driving are so light that
Speaker 2: law enforcem does all this work, and then what actually
Speaker 2: happens to the person. I guarantee you, across party lines,
Speaker 2: our audience would want to throw up, and then they'd
Speaker 2: want to kill somebody if they knew how many people
Speaker 2: were out there killing people, killing people on the roadway
Speaker 2: through careless driving and never serving a day. How many
Speaker 2: people were out there inflicting catastrophic injury on people so
Speaker 2: they may not pass away, but they're left with these
Speaker 2: debilitating lifetime brain injuries, spine injuries, etc. Through really careless
Speaker 2: driving and then they get a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 2: People have no idea how bad it is out there,
Speaker 2: and we need major changes that the legislature on that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I wonder what do you think the voters of the
Speaker 2: state would do on a ballot issue on that.
Speaker 6: That might be a good topic for tomorrow, Dan.
Speaker 2: You know, I think there are so many, so many
Speaker 2: important changes for Colorado that could be accomplished through ballot measure.
Speaker 2: We're never going to get through a lefty legislature, but
Speaker 2: could be accomplished uo Bella measure. It's easy to say, right,
Speaker 2: they're so expensive, etc. But the state, the people of
Speaker 2: the state are nowhere near as far left as the
Speaker 2: lefties who own and operate this place. Thank you, Ryan,
Speaker 2: Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow on the Dan
Speaker 2: Kapli Show.