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Speaker 1: here with today with author Donald Jeffries, and we will
Speaker 1: all right great now We're also on brydy on, so
Speaker 1: we we are broadcasting today on YouTube Rumble and Brydyan
Speaker 1: and I would like to thank you Donald for coming
Speaker 1: on the show. Mister Jeffries. It was great the last
Speaker 1: time we talked. And I've since picked up American Memory
Speaker 1: Hole and I'm about halfway through that now and I've
Speaker 1: been a big fan. I actually I think I dedicated
Speaker 1: four episodes recently to what you cover in crimes and
Speaker 1: cover ups in American politics, just to kind of prime
Speaker 1: the audience and give them an idea of, you know,
Speaker 1: where we're coming from. And prior to that, like one
Speaker 1: of the things that stuck out to me in Hidden
Speaker 1: History was just the mc cain and carry way of
Speaker 1: handling pow as. I found that to be atrocious, but
Speaker 1: a but a big indicator of you know, what's really
Speaker 1: going on in our in our political system. So with that,
Speaker 1: I also you know, had Michael les King on a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and he wrote a book called Andrew
Speaker 1: the Great about Andrew Jackson, and I think he has
Speaker 1: a varied opinion different a little bit from yours. I
Speaker 1: think there's more of a negative approach on you know,
Speaker 1: his handling of the natives versus what you know, the
Speaker 1: numbers he's come up with and what they were actually paid,
Speaker 1: I guess to uh to relocate versus you know, what
Speaker 1: they do in Palestine for instance, as a as a comparison.
Speaker 1: Uh So, let's let's get started. First of all, you're
Speaker 1: you have a podcast and it's on Fridays five to
Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern, and that's on YouTube. Is that also
Speaker 1: on Rumble?
Speaker 2: Usually sometimes it pends where the producer and get it up.
Speaker 2: If we were on rock Fin we get kicked off
Speaker 2: Rocken for some reason. Oh wow, so we're We're on
Speaker 2: YouTube and my Twitter as well, my ex so. But
Speaker 2: most people catch the live stream on YouTube and we
Speaker 2: do put it in Rumble side, but it gets it
Speaker 2: gets replayed a lot that Jeff Rentz reruns it several
Speaker 2: times on his network and Jeff's on It's on It's
Speaker 2: on band dot video too, Alex Chanle's big platform, so awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: more people I think catch the reruns there, but it's
Speaker 2: and it's called eye Protest, which is exact same thing
Speaker 2: I named. I named my substack eye Protests, and those
Speaker 2: those are the two places to find me.
Speaker 1: Primarily perfect and yeah, the substack for everyone who's listening.
Speaker 1: The substack link is in the description no matter where
Speaker 1: you're looking and watching the video today, as well as
Speaker 1: his Twitter or ax if we're going to call it that,
Speaker 1: and his Donald Jeffries dot media is also linked in
Speaker 1: the description, and there you can find you know, links
Speaker 1: to his book, a lot of there's more articles and Donald,
Speaker 1: did you ever work with the Spotlight? Because I know
Speaker 1: this you referenced them a lot like what was your
Speaker 1: what was your relationship in like a couseplayer? Did you
Speaker 1: have one?
Speaker 2: No? No, Well I had just started reaching out to him. Why.
Speaker 2: We communicated a few times and he got you know,
Speaker 2: he died very quickly, apparently at heart disease. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a conventional explanation. I don't know, but young, he
Speaker 2: was pretty young. But it's a shame. Yeah, I certainly
Speaker 2: would have had him on the podcast. I hadn't started
Speaker 2: that yet, But I had no relationship with the Spotlight
Speaker 2: other than being a subscriber. But I have been writing
Speaker 2: for the American Free Press for several years now, and
Speaker 2: that's what the Spotlight became because the ad L on
Speaker 2: the Southern Poverty Law Center drove the Spotlight into bankruptcy, right,
Speaker 2: and so when they when they realigned themselves after not
Speaker 2: very long, they became the American Free Press. So I've
Speaker 2: been writing for them for probably I guess it's been
Speaker 2: five or six years. I always track of the time.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but one of their issues usually carries
Speaker 2: a couple of stories by me.
Speaker 1: Did yeah, okay, so did you ever come across Dave
Speaker 1: gaherry In in that time?
Speaker 2: I think he's the guy I talked to once, I
Speaker 2: used to be with him. I think, I think, I
Speaker 2: think that's the fellow that I had a conversation with.
Speaker 1: I believe, all right, yeah, because we have On Sundays,
Speaker 1: I speak with Stefan verstap And and he has a regular
Speaker 1: spot on Jeff Frentz and a lot of the people
Speaker 1: that listened to Stefan also, are you know followers of
Speaker 1: your work heavily? Which I thought was pretty cool because
Speaker 1: you'll probably have a bunch of those people, uh you know,
Speaker 1: checking in to see this today too, And uh so,
Speaker 1: let me just ask you where where what do you
Speaker 1: make of this push, like this complete flip you have.
Speaker 1: You have RFK Junior and this whole MABA thing which
Speaker 1: is making make America biometric. I mean, this is not
Speaker 1: exactly what people voted for in any any aspect of respect,
Speaker 1: no matter if you're talking about uh, you know, Donald
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, or if you're talking about RFKA Junior or
Speaker 1: any of the other people he assigned to their positions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's it's uh in Arcad Junior.
Speaker 2: People know I held it. I still hold because he
Speaker 2: still says some good And it's the problem with anything
Speaker 2: to do with Trump is trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: actually has has been done or what the reality of
Speaker 2: anything is almost impossible. I got Ridicolo's Big Beautiful Billy
Speaker 2: just passed. You've got people saying about Social Security alone.
Speaker 2: It does, it does eliminate, it doesn't. Trump is I
Speaker 2: have no idea. I mean, I guess you just have
Speaker 2: to wait and see. Uh. That's the problem with Trump.
Speaker 2: And I call him I'm called the Trumpet sign project.
Speaker 2: People that have I mean, that's what I've been calling
Speaker 2: it since the beginning. I think he was an actor
Speaker 2: inserted into politics to uh, tap into the populism out there,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of populism. Bernie Sanders movement showed
Speaker 2: that at the exact same time, and populism is the
Speaker 2: winning formula. If these political parties were real and they
Speaker 2: wanted to actually win votes and the votes were actually counted,
Speaker 2: populism can't be beat. It's impossible because the people, the
Speaker 2: vast majority of the people, don't have power. And if
Speaker 2: you tap into them and try to tell them they
Speaker 2: don't have power, and try to say, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we need to emphasize that and take all this power
Speaker 2: away from this concentrated power that's everywhere in terms of
Speaker 2: government and business and in terms of all these corrupt
Speaker 2: figures which continue to be to stay in power no
Speaker 2: matter what, we can't seem to get rid of them.
Speaker 2: People will respond to and that's what Trump with Trumple's sisters.
Speaker 2: His main thing they got my attention was the immigration issue,
Speaker 2: which had not been talked about since Pat Buchanan. It
Speaker 2: was another hero of mine. I was the last person
Speaker 2: that talked about immigration reallyant in that way. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I know about Trump, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: if he just does what he says. If he just
Speaker 2: supports millions, however, man, even if he reports one third
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's a great accomplishment. And if he you know,
Speaker 2: he stops the word, if he stops a birthright citizenship,
Speaker 2: all these giving benefits. So, you know, I realized none
Speaker 2: of these guys are great, and I figured, well, okay,
Speaker 2: the opponent is Hillary Clinton, so what's the choice here.
Speaker 2: So but but at the time I realized, okay, this
Speaker 2: but this guy very unlikely person to to be a
Speaker 2: you know, the hero. But Roger Stone at that time
Speaker 2: was pretty unknown, and he was the first person to
Speaker 2: respond that had any kind of name to Hidden History.
Speaker 2: He contacted me and he loved the book, and he
Speaker 2: was telling me how he'd been friends with Donald Trump
Speaker 2: for thirty years and Trump had just announced his candidacy
Speaker 2: and he we had a phone conversation and he was
Speaker 2: telling me, you know, you're gonna love this guy. He
Speaker 2: knows about all the conspiracies. You know, he's just like you,
Speaker 2: you know, And I said, wow, you're not thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: it's possible that they you know, it would be possible
Speaker 2: for a billionaire. I guess I'm never having been a billionaire,
Speaker 2: I guess it's possible. Well, if you're a billionaire and
Speaker 2: you're attending and you're making all the money you want
Speaker 2: and your family set up, maybe it's possible for you
Speaker 2: to have some kind of a social conscience and say,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want my great grandchildren growing up
Speaker 2: and you know what this is becoming, and try to
Speaker 2: do something about it. So I said, but I still
Speaker 2: didn't think he was. But I said, okay, maybe who knows.
Speaker 2: And Roger Stone, you know, sounded convincing on the phone,
Speaker 2: but you know, I didn't dig very long once Trump
Speaker 2: got in all I mean, basically the first day, you know,
Speaker 2: when he said Hillary's no, we're not going to go there,
Speaker 2: We're not going to lock her up, she's good people
Speaker 2: and all that nonsense, you started to realizing I've written
Speaker 2: a lot about Trump, and the second term looked a
Speaker 2: little different because the first term is I said, I
Speaker 2: don't think I would like to have taken a poll
Speaker 2: on how many people in his cabinet voted for him,
Speaker 2: and I don't think you can say about any other president.
Speaker 2: Literally he was surrounded by never Trumper's and there's forty
Speaker 2: jess stuff. This time was different RFK Junior was somebody
Speaker 2: I thought was a great pick, and he's done a
Speaker 2: right You know, you've done so many things if you
Speaker 2: just look at the things he's written about the children's
Speaker 2: health alone, and he's the first person in my lifetime
Speaker 2: to talk about chronic health and to really criticize the
Speaker 2: medical industrial complex. So again I hear from the media
Speaker 2: and the all media hates them. I understand that because
Speaker 2: I get flack all the time. Oh you're a fanboy
Speaker 2: and all that. I probably am, but it's hard to tell.
Speaker 2: It seems like he got a lot of these artificial
Speaker 2: dyes out of the food, I think, But again I
Speaker 2: don't know. I hear different things. It seems like he
Speaker 2: eliminated the COVID nineteen vaccine from the childhood vaccination schedule,
Speaker 2: I think, But other people say no, he didn't. So
Speaker 2: that's what I mean. It's impossible to find out what
Speaker 2: is really going on because you have both sides claiming
Speaker 2: contradictory things. Are any of these So look at immigration.
Speaker 2: Have there been massive raids? Well, both sides claim there have,
Speaker 2: but then the official statistics say they're deporting fewer people
Speaker 2: than Biden. So what both sides have a reason to
Speaker 2: exaggerate it. So it's really hard to tell, but I
Speaker 2: think that so I couldn't have asked for better than RFK.
Speaker 2: And I loved Tulsea Gabbert. I went to one of
Speaker 2: her campaigns back in the day. I had my picture
Speaker 2: taken with her. She has my book, Survival of the Riches.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's read it. But so I thought
Speaker 2: it was a great pick. I mean, I know she's
Speaker 2: with the CFR, but you have a very limited pool
Speaker 2: to deal, you know, to pick from here. Nobody great
Speaker 2: is gonna you know, not gonna pick me or something
Speaker 2: or somebody you know in our world. And so I
Speaker 2: was pleased that with those two choices along, I think
Speaker 2: they were the two best cabinet picks of my lifetime,
Speaker 2: because you know, I think Cash Bettel I had heard
Speaker 2: varying things about, but I thought, okay, it's got to
Speaker 2: be better than the average director of the FBI. And
Speaker 2: then look what he's done recently here. I think that,
Speaker 2: you know the admission yesterday that came out today. It's interesting.
Speaker 2: We're doing this interview now, but when you come and
Speaker 2: I'll probably my next substack is writing itself as I
Speaker 2: speak I think we're going to tackle this subject. But
Speaker 2: I mean, when you come out it's one it's bad enough.
Speaker 2: When they said, you know, Epstein killed himself, and Dan
Speaker 2: bongino is who said many times on the radio jokingly
Speaker 2: talked about Epstein, you know, not killing himself. But I've
Speaker 2: seen the tape, which I've seen the file with the
Speaker 2: file was lost. They claim it was lost, you know,
Speaker 2: out of Epstein's you know what did what did you see?
Speaker 2: But now when they're trying to say that he didn't
Speaker 2: even have a list, there was no Epstein list. I mean,
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi, you know, all these people, I had a list
Speaker 2: right on my desk. I mean, I think at this
Speaker 2: point they're just dropping all pretests. I don't think they
Speaker 2: care anymore because they they have to realize. I think
Speaker 2: that most of Magga is gonna is going to go
Speaker 2: away after this. But I could be wrong. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: giving them too much credit. But you know, when you
Speaker 2: do something like that, because that's just a that's a
Speaker 2: kick in the teeth. Absolutely you say, well, actually he
Speaker 2: didn't even have a list, that's like it's like what
Speaker 2: so I just it's very disillusioning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that was that was pretty ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was on. I can't remember if Sean whatever that
Speaker 1: guy's name is, But I mean, Petel has made this
Speaker 1: rounds too, and he's not not made himself look very
Speaker 1: good at any time he's been on. He's kind of
Speaker 1: and I wonder if that's part of the scheme, right
Speaker 1: to the disillusionment, to kind of break the Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think people associate MAGA with some sort of like
Speaker 1: American pride thing, and I think maybe that's what they're
Speaker 1: trying to destroy. But but I also think that's a misguided,
Speaker 1: uh inference as well, because you know, all Trump has
Speaker 1: been doing since you know, since he's been in any
Speaker 1: office this term or the other, has been trampling the
Speaker 1: Bill of Rights. So it's not like he's like a
Speaker 1: champion for the Constitution or anything like that at all whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But he's he's kind of I think I think the
Speaker 1: impression that people have is that he's that's who he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that people have, and it's the
Speaker 2: it's an impression created by the opposition. First of all,
Speaker 2: he has all the right enemies. Everybody who's horrible hates him.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know all these people are indescribably evil
Speaker 2: that you know, the the establishment of both parties, all
Speaker 2: these big corporate leaders. They all hate him, or they
Speaker 2: act like they hate him. Again, this is all part
Speaker 2: of the act, maybe the Trumpets sign project. But so
Speaker 2: he's got the right enemies, and they, especially in the
Speaker 2: first term, they were persecuting and they're going at to
Speaker 2: them constantly and peaching him for nonsense and the lawfair
Speaker 2: things were very real in between them. There was all
Speaker 2: they set terrible precedents. None of those were crimes. He
Speaker 2: convicted of felonies for paying off a woman who he
Speaker 2: had an affair with, which rich men have been doing
Speaker 2: for time immemorial, and that's suddenly thirty two felonies or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous. But she's on REQUI if I
Speaker 2: had been his attorney, I would have called stormied Angel
Speaker 2: in the stand and shown her statement early on, which
Speaker 2: she released to Michael Cohen, who used to be his
Speaker 2: Trump's learned then he turned on him, and where she
Speaker 2: talked about Trump was always a great guy, a gracious guy,
Speaker 2: never bothered me at all. He was always a gentleman
Speaker 2: around me. So I mean, case closed. But people quote
Speaker 2: this all the time, and I talked about what you're saying.
Speaker 2: With Trump, I've compared him to Emmanuel Goldstein, Trump to
Speaker 2: you know, Orwell's fictitious opposition leader in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 2: and if you remember and there, the party members were
Speaker 2: so worked up when they saw Goldstein come on the
Speaker 2: screen that they went into the two minutes hate. You know,
Speaker 2: they scream at each other and almost get in fights
Speaker 2: and throw things at the screen. We with Trumpenstein or Trump,
Speaker 2: you have a twenty four hour, twenty four to seven hate.
Speaker 2: It's way beyond that. And we've all known, I've known
Speaker 2: so many good people that this has destroyed, where they've
Speaker 2: taken all their knowledge about deep politics and everything's going on,
Speaker 2: and they've transferred it all onto this guy. And the
Speaker 2: impression is that even now even George W. Bush is
Speaker 2: pretty cool, Dick Cheney, Liz Chanty, they're great because they criticized.
Speaker 2: It's like, you do, you know, whatever you think about Trump,
Speaker 2: how does that make them good? But that's the problem,
Speaker 2: and that's been maybe part of the act. But I
Speaker 2: think you're right, they do want to destroy the spirit.
Speaker 2: And the MAGA movement is you know, largely two right
Speaker 2: wing for me. But it's there's It shows that there's
Speaker 2: at least seventy eighty mallin people. Everybody pretty much voted
Speaker 2: for Trump is awake to some degree. They know something's wrong.
Speaker 2: They at least can see the other side and how
Speaker 2: corrupt it is. They're just this they think, you know,
Speaker 2: still think too many of that. This is this is
Speaker 2: a white hat that this guy's coming in. He's he's
Speaker 2: playing forty chess. The Democrats won't let him do it,
Speaker 2: and so it would be interesting, but they keep, you know,
Speaker 2: they excuse the vaccine and all that stuff. But now,
Speaker 2: but I think it's getting harder and harder when you
Speaker 2: say it was bad enough with Bongenio and Bengino and cash,
Speaker 2: but now more and more people I see on the internet.
Speaker 2: Where are the prosecutions. Why do we get the first
Speaker 2: arrest you know, which we have of course we have
Speaker 2: gotten none. But now when you're saying, when you just
Speaker 2: come out and say, well, actually there wasn't even a
Speaker 2: list at all. I remember there was a judge that
Speaker 2: ordered the list released. Remember I wrote a substack about
Speaker 2: that what list? And we never saw it? And you
Speaker 2: have Pam Bondi talking about it's on my desk.
Speaker 1: This is beyond plate logs. We're talking about an actual,
Speaker 1: you know, client list in addition to the flight lugs, right,
Speaker 1: because I mean, how do you how do you sweep
Speaker 1: away in those flight logs?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly. And and I said at the time,
Speaker 2: what do they even mean about the list? What is
Speaker 2: the Epstein list? What does that mean? Was that he
Speaker 2: wrote a list somewhere? I mean, that's why I kept saying,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it means, you know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So there this is maybe their way of saying. But
Speaker 2: they referred to the Epstein list constantly. So and you
Speaker 2: remember Pam Bonni made a big thing where she she
Speaker 2: picked Mike Cernovich and a couple other very maybe Jack Pasobic,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but very kind of suspect figures in
Speaker 2: the all right, And remember they held up basically empty
Speaker 2: folders that were all redacted. What was that about? I
Speaker 2: mean that was so. I mean, so you mean to
Speaker 2: tell me the Attorney General thought there was a list
Speaker 2: or this, and and there wasn't. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: the problem with all politics. And it'll go away because
Speaker 2: it goes just like World War three went away. You know,
Speaker 2: we thought we were on the precipice, you know, for
Speaker 2: weeks now, and these stories change and they go on
Speaker 2: to the next thing. But I think that was very
Speaker 2: illuminating when they just suddenly said, well, actually know most
Speaker 2: of all, because I mean that that's a huge That's like, again,
Speaker 2: that's what horrible talk to It's about if you want
Speaker 2: to see a picture of the future, his picture a
Speaker 2: human boots stamping on a face forever, you know, or
Speaker 2: something like that, And that's what this was. That was
Speaker 2: a boot stamping on our face. I was like, don't
Speaker 2: ask any more questions.
Speaker 1: Right, And it's the whole thing is that everybody knows
Speaker 1: that it's a lie, but they dare not speak the
Speaker 1: truth type of thing, kind of like Wilson. And it
Speaker 1: was it Wilson who made that statement about the whisper.
Speaker 1: No one dare speak above a whisper.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yeh yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's he was. He was horrifically involved in all
Speaker 1: of it too, So for him to like everybody seems
Speaker 1: like they talk on both sides of their mouth, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: They do, and it ends up and so it's I
Speaker 2: don't know what if there are any good guys I
Speaker 2: tend to still look for good guys. But then you
Speaker 2: have already kind of thought. I always kept saying, what's
Speaker 2: going to come after Trump? I don't know, because you know,
Speaker 2: Trump has rewritten politics, and you know he's not he's
Speaker 2: seventy eight now, he's remarkable energy and everything, but at
Speaker 2: some point he's going to not be able to do
Speaker 2: it anymore. And uh, you know who comes after? Because
Speaker 2: I don't think the problem with this the Trump movement
Speaker 2: is it's it's it's a movement of personality, and this should.
Speaker 1: Hold the personality and a cult of society.
Speaker 2: That's fine, yes, exactly, and it's a very flawed personality.
Speaker 2: And obviously you know, and so this is so they're
Speaker 2: following this guy and they're cheering the personality. So it
Speaker 2: becomes he can hold rallies and he'll just brag about
Speaker 2: himself about stupid stuff or how many people he had
Speaker 2: at the rallies, and the people that's what they're cheering.
Speaker 2: That's what they consider winning. Or he talks about, you know,
Speaker 2: we won every swing state. What that's not a victory
Speaker 2: for the people. How many people did you debort to deport?
Speaker 2: Have you built the infrastructure up which you rightfully criticized,
Speaker 2: hadn't been touched in sixty years. Did you bring any
Speaker 2: of the troops home? Why are you, you know, being
Speaker 2: triggered into start another senseless war? And you called them
Speaker 2: senseless wars? Where's all the what's the swamp? You haven't
Speaker 2: drained a single person from the swamp?
Speaker 1: And now you can have you have Alan Dershowitz as
Speaker 1: your as your legal counsel and say talk about swamps
Speaker 1: training exactly.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't keep surrounding yourself to these kind
Speaker 2: of people. So you get somebody like Bobby Kennedy I
Speaker 2: think is good. I don't know, maybe maybe he's a
Speaker 2: fraud too.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, he isn't kind of turned over
Speaker 1: on the like he was. He was part of the
Speaker 1: the updated version of virus Mania, which is an amazing
Speaker 1: book that everybody should read because it completely destroys even
Speaker 1: the very notion that that can be linked to illness
Speaker 1: or that it even exists. But he even had like
Speaker 1: his own section in the updated version of that. And
Speaker 1: now he's talking about how they're good, they're you know,
Speaker 1: these are great things for you know, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna have this whole oracle thing set up
Speaker 1: to where you just scan yourself and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: your AI generated, you know, personalized shots. Isn't that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I don't I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know that between between. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 2: if you've read and listened to the stuff he said
Speaker 2: in the past, this revolutionary stuff, he said, some really
Speaker 2: great stuff. So if somebody like that getting into government,
Speaker 2: if they can stop him and turn him, I mean,
Speaker 2: I already know on like on Israel's Rabbi Shmoolies, I
Speaker 2: think still his handler falling around and just making those
Speaker 2: absurd comments ever on that and saying Palestinians and those
Speaker 2: pampered people in the world, nonsense like that. Okay, but
Speaker 2: at least he doesn't have anything really do that. Man.
Speaker 2: You have Chelsea Gabbard who rightly said that they had
Speaker 2: concluded that Iran didn't have nuclear weapons just a few
Speaker 2: months back, and then you know, she flips as soon
Speaker 2: as Trump says, I don't care what she says. You know,
Speaker 2: when you have that kind of stuff again, the message
Speaker 2: is to be it should be to people that this
Speaker 2: because as I said, when Trump was elected the first time,
Speaker 2: whatever whatever he is, whatever it is, this is our
Speaker 2: last hope. This is your last shot, and it's more
Speaker 2: than ever. I'm saying that now because and then then
Speaker 2: he gets a second turn. Well it's going to be
Speaker 2: different this time. I said, okay, well, okay, we'll claim
Speaker 2: it's your last shot again. But already you're seeing what's happening.
Speaker 2: It's that it's more of the same stuff and there's
Speaker 2: more danger this time because his first administration he just
Speaker 2: didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Betweet, he didn't do any great rug pull for everybody
Speaker 1: who believed in him, Like they're just like, this is
Speaker 1: the guy trying to pull the tablecloth off the table
Speaker 1: and the flowers are still standing. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: this is pulling it. It's such a.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly he is, exactly right. He's like he had
Speaker 2: a failed magic trick. And people, but I and there
Speaker 2: are a lot of people on the other side of
Speaker 2: Trump's arrangement syndrome that but but I think that more
Speaker 2: the bloom is off the rose here. He lost a
Speaker 2: lot of people, uh with his getting and look at
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, people like that he was so loyal
Speaker 2: to him, and uh, Tucker Carlson people like that. A
Speaker 2: lot of people were lost on the Iran thing, you know,
Speaker 2: because it was so obvious when he's holding bb net
Speaker 2: and Yah's chair and he's you know, he's I mean,
Speaker 2: you couldn't make it more obvious that we had that
Speaker 2: he you know, at least to whatever degree, he's sincere
Speaker 2: that he didn't want to do this, just like when
Speaker 2: he bombs Siri the first time. Rout he didn't want to,
Speaker 2: but he did it. So he's following orders. Why is
Speaker 2: he following orders? But this Epstein thing, because that's that's
Speaker 2: kind of at the center of this whole conspiratorial universe
Speaker 2: we're in, is the Epstein thing. This is something after
Speaker 2: he died, everybody said, you even had the New York Times,
Speaker 2: everybody was kind of joking about Epstein. You know, Epstein
Speaker 2: didn't kill himself pretty much. I would say ninety nine
Speaker 2: percent of the public probably believes that he didn't kill himself.
Speaker 2: But here we had oh yeah, I McAfee, I I
Speaker 2: you know, I had McAfee on my podcast a couple
Speaker 2: of times, and yeah, he was he was, uh, he
Speaker 2: was a great and he loved me. That the second
Speaker 2: time his wife contacted me and asked, he said he
Speaker 2: wanted to come back on. I said, wow, really cool.
Speaker 2: So just a great guest, I mean a very scary guy.
Speaker 2: I mean he was you could you could feel the
Speaker 2: testosteron coming over the waves. I mean he was so
Speaker 2: full of tests. I mean just he was a man's man.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, there's no way that guy and I.
Speaker 2: You know, his wife and I were in communication and
Speaker 2: she has not answered me since he died because I
Speaker 2: really wanted her to get her on the podcast talk
Speaker 2: about it. But I guess he's scared.
Speaker 1: I don't blame I could imagine why. I mean, if
Speaker 1: we start to understand like what the CIA is and
Speaker 1: who you know, who's behind all that, what they are
Speaker 1: actually involved in. I mean, you can even go back
Speaker 1: to to Lansky, or you can go back to the
Speaker 1: Duchys India Company and the Burrish Eats East India company.
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about slavery and drug trade and the
Speaker 1: same you know, you could say tribe that's in the
Speaker 1: cult of banking and finance and their influence. They've always
Speaker 1: been in the same line of work basically, and you
Speaker 1: know Lanska was was spearheading human trafficking and the opium trade.
Speaker 1: The reason why we were in vietnamme had something to
Speaker 1: do with that. And that's also another port. Like there
Speaker 1: was a whole thing with Cuba where Batista was allowing
Speaker 1: the gambling to occur. I think it was Batista his name, right,
Speaker 1: And then they were actually they were trying to overthrow
Speaker 1: Castro because he tried, he tried to route all that
Speaker 1: crap out. So, I mean, it's kind of interesting. Like
Speaker 1: I was reading I was actually read that Final Judgment
Speaker 1: by Michael Collins Piper, the more updated version of it,
Speaker 1: and then also his book The Goldam which talks about
Speaker 1: Demona and the Israeli nuclear power program, you know, power
Speaker 1: nuclear program. I should just say leave that open ended,
Speaker 1: whether it's nuclear power or not, because you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: they boast and I think they just they just you
Speaker 1: know what they call it when you just kind of
Speaker 1: steamroll people, like they the main statements they had two hundred,
Speaker 1: now they had five hundred. Now we've never actually stated
Speaker 1: that we had any. It's just it's this game of
Speaker 1: you know, it's so silly. It's like follow the queen.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah it is, and but I think that and
Speaker 2: that's one of the other the thing that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it gives me home or not,
Speaker 2: but I you know, in my lifetime, certainly, I'm writing
Speaker 2: a lot more openly on substack about Israel and Jews
Speaker 2: in general. And the reason is because people want to
Speaker 2: hear it when I when I write about that subject,
Speaker 2: I get so many more comments and views and readers
Speaker 2: and people share it all over the internet. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to write about just that. But if you
Speaker 2: look at especially black podcasters like Candice Owens and who
Speaker 2: was you know, turned into kind of the black female
Speaker 2: version of David Duke. I mean, she's just all over
Speaker 2: this issue non stop. And the Jason Wentlock, who's a
Speaker 2: sports guy but he talks about it all the time too,
Speaker 2: So it's a lot in Kanye West obviously started that.
Speaker 2: But you're getting When Tucker Carlson had that debate with
Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, that was kind of a watershed moment because
Speaker 2: I think it opened a lot of people's eyes that
Speaker 2: see that, Okay, this is this is the Zionism argument.
Speaker 2: There is no argument. He looked like and Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: is a smart guy, he looked like a blithery idiot
Speaker 2: because he couldn't there's no defense for it, and Tucker
Speaker 2: was just asking the kind of questions that if any
Speaker 2: professional journalist did these stupid you know, know, when wars
Speaker 2: and senseless wars for Israel would stop. But I think
Speaker 2: that it's now open all over the internet. More and
Speaker 2: more people are talking about it, and this is a question.
Speaker 2: And so I think this is kind of outside the
Speaker 2: left and right thing because it's mostly the left that's
Speaker 2: to satisfied with Israel at this point. Jimmy Doris does
Speaker 2: great work on it's the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got something to say on the whole idea
Speaker 1: because when we go back to the banking intrigue that's
Speaker 1: been plaguing our country since the seventeen eighties and prior
Speaker 1: to that. But I mean the same group of people,
Speaker 1: basically the financers of countries and the idea like with
Speaker 1: William of Orange, you know when he got his his
Speaker 1: loan from the Swasos that basically established the Bank of England,
Speaker 1: because it would be the people's responsibility for what the
Speaker 1: government is borrowing and they're really paying back the interest,
Speaker 1: so they're in perpetual debt, which now that means that
Speaker 1: country is in slavery. So that kind of spilled over
Speaker 1: here with our twenty year charters and then you know,
Speaker 1: eventually the Federal Reserve, so us having a lot of wealth,
Speaker 1: well that was you know, all true wealth was kind
Speaker 1: of destroyed after the Reserve came and we were left
Speaker 1: with confetti and we had a strong military. So it's
Speaker 1: almost as if the centralized location or HQ of that
Speaker 1: banking entity kind of shifted over to us. And between
Speaker 1: the Bank of England and feder Reserve, you can you
Speaker 1: can make the argument that it's baby is Israel, like
Speaker 1: that's that's that's it's that's prod to the progeny, right,
Speaker 1: and so if they are truly in control of us,
Speaker 1: then you could make the argument that we were Israel
Speaker 1: before Israel was ever Israel. And who is actually behind
Speaker 1: these acts of aggression? Are we the cat? In Israel?
Speaker 1: Is the cat's pause So it's not always America initiating
Speaker 1: these because we're still doing everything at the behest of
Speaker 1: the banking cartel. So if they want to establish the
Speaker 1: central bank in a country, something's gonna happen either here
Speaker 1: or Israel's gonna cause it cause an issue somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have to roll in and you know,
Speaker 1: you lost. He lost Libya, which was a beautiful nationalist country.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Green Book has a lot of
Speaker 1: good points in it. And what what what Gaddafi did
Speaker 1: for his people is phenomenal. If we ever nationalized any
Speaker 1: of our minerals and raw and you know, our resources
Speaker 1: here and actually as like dividends supported our people, that
Speaker 1: would show that you know this, this leader cares about
Speaker 1: its people and wants a strong country. Any any country
Speaker 1: that is working to put you in perpetual debt, make
Speaker 1: you have to work two of the three jobs, wants
Speaker 1: the states to raise your children, and wants to take
Speaker 1: away your ability to defend yourself with the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1: That's not an you're the target. You're the true target
Speaker 1: of that country. It's not it's it's working to eat
Speaker 1: itself from within.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question about that. And I think you know,
Speaker 2: in my writing now, I mean I I you know,
Speaker 2: I try to go deep into this and I want
Speaker 2: people to not be scared to ask these questions. And
Speaker 2: we asked, first of all, understand what what is in Israeli?
Speaker 2: What is it? I think it's pretty clear they're not
Speaker 2: the people of the biblical israelis in the Bible. I
Speaker 2: think that's pretty clear. And however you look at it,
Speaker 2: you know Israel was allowed to be created in you know,
Speaker 2: the land where people already existed. But the point where
Speaker 2: they've tried to talk about Winston Smith in the Ministry
Speaker 2: of Truth, I mean, they're they're they're growing and they
Speaker 2: don't care if there are maps that say Palisine on
Speaker 2: I get arguable there were no such thing as Palestine.
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you mean that you're trying to
Speaker 2: deny that they were on persons? They didn't even exist.
Speaker 1: That's like energetic, right, And they're they're they're writing over
Speaker 1: a cassette tape that you'll still hear the murmur of
Speaker 1: it in the background sometimes, you know how like when
Speaker 1: you keep recording over the same the same tape, you
Speaker 1: can sometimes still hear a little bit of the imprint
Speaker 1: from the last But that's kind of like what they're doing.
Speaker 1: It's they're just kind of recording a new history over
Speaker 1: the topic because every generation that more and more of
Speaker 1: the reality will slip away to where you don't even
Speaker 1: recognize it anymore. And that's kind of like what Uri
Speaker 1: Mesnino was talking about with the you know, the demoralization
Speaker 1: and then everything else, you know, the whole subversion thing
Speaker 1: in how you need in the full whole generation to
Speaker 1: start to to correct those types of U subversive acts,
Speaker 1: because that whole other generation is pretty much lost because
Speaker 1: they've already been imprinted with a certain belief system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that. I think what has happened
Speaker 2: here is that the the the anti white agenda, which
Speaker 2: is very real, the great replacement, which is going on
Speaker 2: for decades and increasingly in this century, it's coming back
Speaker 2: to bite these people in the ass a little bit
Speaker 2: because the first real strong ballback they've been getting against
Speaker 2: Israel were from these college students. There were you know,
Speaker 2: you know, protesting on behalf of the Palestinians. They were
Speaker 2: largely non white, but a lot of whites too, a
Speaker 2: lot of self hating whites because they look at israel
Speaker 2: Is Jews themselves, and ironically people that hate Jews both
Speaker 2: look at Jews as not being white. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what they think they are. They look white
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Right, And I said that myself too. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be pretty easy to be mistaken for
Speaker 1: if you don't think that you, because if we're just
Speaker 1: going with calder and reality here, what are we looking at?
Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly. But but what happens is these
Speaker 2: people that hate whites and the anti white agenda, they
Speaker 2: see Israel. They don't see them as the Chosen people
Speaker 2: or anything special. They look at them as a as
Speaker 2: a white colonialist force, and they look at the Palestinians
Speaker 2: as the poor non white victim. So their impulses, they're
Speaker 2: always going to side with the non whites. So ironically,
Speaker 2: I find myself an agreement with like the Squad, Illin
Speaker 2: Olmore and people like that, or aren't right on anything else.
Speaker 2: And Thomas Massey, my famous member of Congress, he recognizes
Speaker 2: that and he talks to the Squad and people AOC
Speaker 2: people like that regularly on this issue because they see
Speaker 2: I and I and I would too. I don't really
Speaker 2: care why they're doing it, but because of this, because
Speaker 2: they have and that's why you see so many blacks
Speaker 2: from Kanye West to you know, obviously to Cantise Owens
Speaker 2: and these they've been empowered by this to come out
Speaker 2: and start talking about and they're calling Jews that Jason
Speaker 2: Wentleck regularly calls him the Tribe on the air and
Speaker 2: he works for Glenn Beck. Somehow he still has a show.
Speaker 2: I don't know how, but because Glenn Beck is very
Speaker 2: pro Israel. But when you see these things.
Speaker 1: You just kind of touched on something that I wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of bring up because a lot of the
Speaker 1: the examples that you've been giving to me, like for set,
Speaker 1: I have to pause on it because it makes me think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think this is the controlled distraction because if
Speaker 1: somebody else is presenting for you on display at counter argument,
Speaker 1: I think it reduces your desire or need for something
Speaker 1: to be done about something because it looks like it's
Speaker 1: being handled. It's like that social loafing aspect of psychology,
Speaker 1: but it's all contained and it's really just for the
Speaker 1: for the presentation. It's look what they call Jesuit theater, right,
Speaker 1: They're just the antagonist and protagonists. The people that are
Speaker 1: already very popular influencers are the only people that are
Speaker 1: getting a voice or a platform to even you know,
Speaker 1: put their two cents in the argument so they can
Speaker 1: control how it's said, and they can leave out important
Speaker 1: details that you're like in your seat, jumping out of
Speaker 1: your seat saying you know, you're missing something here, even
Speaker 1: though you're representing the counter argument, You're missing a whole
Speaker 1: lot of details here. And I think that's on purpose,
Speaker 1: you know, so that it's whitewashed over.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're in it. Just the very fact
Speaker 2: that the subject is being discussed as openly as it is. Again,
Speaker 2: it surprises me because I've been awake since I was
Speaker 2: a teenager in the mid nineteen seventy, so I've been
Speaker 2: aware of the stuff for a long time, and it
Speaker 2: was forbidden to discuss any of this. It's being discussed
Speaker 2: everywhere now and I don't think that happens accidentally.
Speaker 1: So there's this a serial duct that it's forbidden. Makes
Speaker 1: you wonder what country do we actually live in here?
Speaker 2: Who exactly exactly well, exactly who if you want to
Speaker 2: know it's in charge and find out who is, you
Speaker 2: can't criticize it. But I mean, if if this is
Speaker 2: now openly happening openly, and then they must want it
Speaker 2: to be So do they want it? If they want
Speaker 2: do they want this anti Jewish rhetoric out there now?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it looks like they want it,
Speaker 2: and are they going to try to meet it? Will
Speaker 2: then Trump eventually clamped down. Will the Anti Semitism Awareness
Speaker 2: Act come in or something that I talked about that
Speaker 2: it rose about that last year, the most dangerous piece
Speaker 2: of legislation in our history of our country passed overwhelming
Speaker 2: by that House. I think it was passed or it wasn't.
Speaker 2: You know, the Senate's going to pass and obviously Trump
Speaker 2: would sign it. What happened to it? Literally, there are
Speaker 2: no stories on it once that I pay attention to
Speaker 2: this stuff all the time because it's almost like I
Speaker 2: don't know what's real at all, But that that got
Speaker 2: a lot of attention. But it stopped. What happened to
Speaker 2: the Anti Semitism Awareness Ack, which is this odiest thing
Speaker 2: that might have there's no update on it whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Well, here's that thing too, right, So a bunch of
Speaker 1: people who had their channels deleted off of YouTube for
Speaker 1: four or five years during the COVID era or even
Speaker 1: as far back as when Trump first came into office,
Speaker 1: there were people being deleted for saying pro Trump stuff.
Speaker 1: One of my friends was one of those people. He
Speaker 1: lost one hundred thousand followers, so like overnight, lost all
Speaker 1: of his monetization, had to move out of his home
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, right, So looking at why they're
Speaker 1: giving it back and then contemplating you know, Artiflicial Intelligence
Speaker 1: Palunteer and all this software that splits it makes sense
Speaker 1: of the metadata for these types of systems, because Talenteer
Speaker 1: is basically the bridge that helps AI understand and makes
Speaker 1: sense and organize the data. Right. Well, you brought up
Speaker 1: the anti Semitism bill, and I have to say, Christy
Speaker 1: Nome is a trader. I thought she was awesome in
Speaker 1: South Dakota over the COVID stuff, but definitely not now.
Speaker 1: And Rubio is horrible anyway. But what I'm getting at
Speaker 1: here is I think maybe this is the test run
Speaker 1: because when you have this deportation thing going on, which
Speaker 1: I think might be you know, in in you know,
Speaker 1: linked to this in a way, you have this very
Speaker 1: powerful technocratic device that they're about to you know, or
Speaker 1: have already is you know, implemented. Maybe they want more
Speaker 1: people talking. They it's like it's like you know, stirring
Speaker 1: up the dredging up the water, you know, and like
Speaker 1: little Hudson River, dredging up the Hudson to get rid
Speaker 1: of the PCBs. But what they're trying, they're trying to
Speaker 1: stir it up to that stuff, get people to start
Speaker 1: commenting and expressing their views so that they can threat assess.
Speaker 1: And I think it might be a round up. It
Speaker 1: could be like a perium in a sense because of
Speaker 1: you know, historically, I don't even know if that actually
Speaker 1: really happened, but it was a big deal for them
Speaker 1: because you know, a has Arris, you know who I
Speaker 1: guess couldn't couldn't live without Esther's booty allowed allowed eleven
Speaker 1: in this and people to be hung and then about
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand just plain little gentiles murdered by Morriecai
Speaker 1: and all those people, and that was a bit wonderful
Speaker 1: celebration for the for them. It makes me wonder if
Speaker 1: that's happening all over again now, and it's just going
Speaker 1: to be a more like even if it never happened
Speaker 1: in the first place, because I don't know if that
Speaker 1: story is reality. We could it could also be like
Speaker 1: you know, ritualistically happening now.
Speaker 2: There could be a pogrom against actually heard about programs
Speaker 2: all the time under the TZAR and they maybe maybe
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a program against gentiles. But yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: it is now that's that's the way we look at
Speaker 2: it because we had to think there. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean again, I watched a lot of Frank Capra says,
Speaker 2: it's a part of me that always pains some hope,
Speaker 2: and I like to think it maybe that because most
Speaker 2: people are followers. The vast majority of people are followers.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no quick there's very few leaders in society.
Speaker 2: They follow along with whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the thing. I think that the
Speaker 1: Jewish population whatever, who always calls you know, puts us down.
Speaker 1: If we understand that they run the media, the education,
Speaker 1: and all the influential you know, if you want to
Speaker 1: get anywhere in life, you have to at least adopt
Speaker 1: some sort of doctrine and follow that. Well, aren't they
Speaker 1: the ones dumbing us down in the first place? So
Speaker 1: then they then they point the finger and call us
Speaker 1: the lesser that like it's isn't it through the system
Speaker 1: that you created that made people stupid? Well?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but but I like that. I think there's a
Speaker 2: part of me that wants to think that this is
Speaker 2: just uh, this could possibly be organic at least in
Speaker 2: some way, and that that, and and that because of
Speaker 2: the anti white agenda. Blacks would naturally be the first
Speaker 2: ones to start noticing the biggest elephant in the room
Speaker 2: and just start talking about.
Speaker 1: It and then cater to them and kind of empower
Speaker 1: them to have anality because of that.
Speaker 2: Exactly like that, right, And that's where the catch twenty
Speaker 2: two comes in is that they're not used to just
Speaker 2: slapping them down and now they're talking about this, and
Speaker 2: a lot of them are talking about it, and uh,
Speaker 2: believe me. I mean you just look at the podcasts.
Speaker 2: It's everywhere, and you have comedians like Leonora jony On
Speaker 2: if you've seen or Leonora, she's fantastic, but talk about Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's hilarious, and she's openly she's from Albania or something Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: but she came from But I mean these and there's
Speaker 2: another girl called Lily or something, lovely blonde that's on
Speaker 2: there openly talking about Jews constantly in Jewish power and
Speaker 2: they have, you know, big following on the internet. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. Of course, we could say maybe they're
Speaker 2: all they're all being installed there and they're being allowed
Speaker 2: to say it for some greater purpose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be like even if it's not in
Speaker 1: a deliberate thing like like even people like Stu Peter's
Speaker 1: and like you think these people would be stopp'd be
Speaker 1: slapped down. But what it does for them is it's
Speaker 1: like a magnet and it draws people out that normally
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel comfortable sharing their views. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what part of the the benefit is for them is
Speaker 1: that if you let these people who are out there
Speaker 1: talk and even fund them, because that's a that's a
Speaker 1: traditional thing for the ADEL. They always fund their opposition.
Speaker 1: They need opposition because they need conflict in order to fundraise.
Speaker 1: See Jews. Look, there's a bunch of people out there
Speaker 1: that hate you, like they've they've they've they've constructed things
Speaker 1: like you know, you talk about the Swasta because being drawn.
Speaker 1: You talk about, you know, these movements to try to
Speaker 1: blow up the NAACP that happened in the past, and
Speaker 1: that was where all those are all ops through the
Speaker 1: ADL be a birth, you know. But it's so they
Speaker 1: consistently do this and even if they're not doing it
Speaker 1: specifically to allow because they can shut people down like
Speaker 1: who don't like you to look at rumble, like who
Speaker 1: actually owns rumble? No, not to mention the fact that
Speaker 1: it's in Canada, but it's also run by you know,
Speaker 1: you know who's So if they wanted to stop the rhetoric,
Speaker 1: if they wanted to shut that down, it wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 1: So for going it makes you wonder if if this
Speaker 1: is just like a honey trap in a sense, you know,
Speaker 1: or a glue trap for a mouse, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: I think it is. But I mean if you look
Speaker 2: at it in this translation to what we're saying with
Speaker 2: the Israel they were at conflict again, you had lots Again,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of them legitimate, but in
Speaker 2: the public you have because most people are followers. More
Speaker 2: people are emboldened when they come out because they they
Speaker 2: they know maybe they were quiet before, and they see
Speaker 2: that this is ridiculous. What are we bombing your eye?
Speaker 2: When in Israel was the preemptive strikers to go In
Speaker 2: other words, they started it. They can't say we're defending ourselves.
Speaker 2: So everybody sees that. Now it's like, wait, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: why are we doing that? And then and you're you know,
Speaker 2: this is not in retaliation for something, so uh, I
Speaker 2: think more people are seeing that. But our problem trying
Speaker 2: to get is that there's a dichotomy between because most
Speaker 2: of the people that I mentioned that are awake in
Speaker 2: one way or another are people that support it or
Speaker 2: still support Trump's.
Speaker 1: Funny about that too, Donald. It's like they're they're, they're,
Speaker 1: let's just say they're more aware. But I don't think
Speaker 1: their comprehension is deep enough. No, I don't think they're
Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're they're studied on the history to
Speaker 1: see the patterns this issue.
Speaker 2: You know, on this issue, they are awful and they
Speaker 2: allow it because again there's so many of them. And
Speaker 2: again we can go into Christianity and I've become more
Speaker 2: aware of it. I was raised Catholic, and you know,
Speaker 2: I never heard of the Rapture, Millennial anything because we
Speaker 2: taught that. And but you know, and then I realized,
Speaker 2: now there's something called the Schofield Bible that came into being,
Speaker 2: and you know, this is this is where this because
Speaker 2: they've done such a job, a great job in smearing
Speaker 2: Christianity and smearing Christ for a long time, they've pretty
Speaker 2: much killed off I can tell you from my huge
Speaker 2: Catholic family, almost nobody goes to mass you know, they
Speaker 2: they're falling Catholics. And I think it's that way with
Speaker 2: most Protestant religions except for Evangelicals, and again Evangelicals and.
Speaker 1: One of the most aren't they Yes.
Speaker 2: And that's so. So that's the problem is that all
Speaker 2: those people, I mean, I might agree with everything else
Speaker 2: they're saying, but then they come up with this and they wait,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, And so we're dealing with the group
Speaker 2: of people that have been brainwashed into believing that they
Speaker 2: want some kind of armageddon in the Middle East. We
Speaker 2: want world War three because this is gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: fulfill biblical prophecy.
Speaker 1: And it has to Happenology that is so crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, you know, you do you I don't understand.
Speaker 2: So you think God wouldn't want us to try to
Speaker 2: stop this. I mean, we have free will, so I
Speaker 2: don't understand that they we approve of what's being done
Speaker 2: to the Palestinians and children and stuff over there. So
Speaker 2: that's the problem is that we're a lot like.
Speaker 1: How do we reconcile with God knowing that those are
Speaker 1: all His creation? And you love this to happen because
Speaker 1: you're trying, you were trying to get a play date
Speaker 1: with God, like, is that really what you're saying to
Speaker 1: say exactly?
Speaker 2: And that's that's exactly what it is. So it's we
Speaker 2: have a real heart. And this you know, if you
Speaker 2: look at Trump's administration, the people that aren't Jews and
Speaker 2: it are almost Christie Holmes a perfect example. They're almost
Speaker 2: all I don't think Tulsa Gabbert is, but she's playing.
Speaker 2: Certainly Kennedy was a Catholic, I don't know what. Again,
Speaker 2: they're playing the game though they're sounding like it now
Speaker 2: and so it's impossible. And that's why Matt Gates was
Speaker 2: not allowed to be the Attorney General. Matt Gates was
Speaker 2: second only to Thomas Massey in Congress. He did not
Speaker 2: accept the APEC money and he's been outspoken about it,
Speaker 2: and he would have been great as FBI director. But
Speaker 2: unfortunately and when I when I heard that, I said, oh,
Speaker 2: they're not this guy, and they didn't. But so that's
Speaker 2: the problem we have is that, well, we're kind of
Speaker 2: looking at different things here because the left and so
Speaker 2: at this point on this particular issue, we have way
Speaker 2: more in common even with the craziest people on the
Speaker 2: left today because they can see they may they might
Speaker 2: understand the underlying issues and the historical issues, but they
Speaker 2: understand that what Israel is doing is wrong, and us
Speaker 2: even to the point of US financing them, at us
Speaker 2: being involved, because that's all I try to tell you.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not even getting getting. Of course, you know,
Speaker 2: I think Israel is wrong, but you know that's us.
Speaker 2: We're doing it because we financed them. Israel by itself
Speaker 2: would have been destroyed by the Arabs a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were talking about three terrorist organizations for
Speaker 1: the most part of the Stern Gang, you know, or yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean there were organized crime syndicate, terrorists, the amount
Speaker 1: the level of an amount of terrorists, you know, attacks
Speaker 1: and then and then the removal not so friendly removal
Speaker 1: about some one hundred and fifty thousand pounds Palestinians, like
Speaker 1: all these things. This this was not a noble uh
Speaker 1: you know, initiative by any means. There's no way of
Speaker 1: looking at it, back at this and saying, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a this was a legitimate establishment. I mean
Speaker 1: if but as unfortunately nobody knows about that. And if
Speaker 1: you just look at you know, well should we trust
Speaker 1: what they say? Anyway? When we have a lot of
Speaker 1: evidence that because of Jaks let's say, strong resistance against
Speaker 1: nuclear development in Israel and his you know Ben Gurion
Speaker 1: and him and then all that. I think Ben Gurion
Speaker 1: even resigned because they were putting someone in a little
Speaker 1: bit more hard on Earth and the whole thing with Demona.
Speaker 1: But you know what happened to him. I mean, if
Speaker 1: we can accept the fact that our government and you know,
Speaker 1: those who are operators in Israel made that happen, well,
Speaker 1: then what does that say number one about our country
Speaker 1: and who actually runs it. But if they can do
Speaker 1: that to a beloved president, if they can do what
Speaker 1: they did in New York City in two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: and apparently I would even throw in because everybody loved
Speaker 1: this guy, and I just think that this is it
Speaker 1: would be ironic if this is a tipping point for people.
Speaker 1: But Michael Jackson was loved by everybody on the whole
Speaker 1: freaking planet for the most part, I mean, from all
Speaker 1: different kinds. And if if Smoothy his statements recently indicated
Speaker 1: anything to me, is that they they or the other
Speaker 1: wayves as I call them as Sony who wanted his catalog,
Speaker 1: made sure that he had a next United departure and
Speaker 1: used his his uh you know, his uh, his doctor
Speaker 1: quote unquote doctor to help that along.
Speaker 2: No, there's no question, there's there's you know, and again
Speaker 2: it's kind of he's kind of an unlikely in my
Speaker 2: way of thinking, unlikely victim to be eliminated, but apparently
Speaker 2: behind the scenes he was. You know, a lot of
Speaker 2: these artists are they're a lot of these black artists are.
Speaker 2: They're dissatisfied with the treatment they get from record companies,
Speaker 2: which are all run by Jews. Are they're agents and
Speaker 2: managers a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Are well, he was getting hit to the Palestinian thing too,
Speaker 1: and he started writing songs about that that the record
Speaker 1: company would refuse to produce in the publish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's again. So I think there's
Speaker 2: again there's a class here between uh the and I
Speaker 2: think they just and we kind of see the same
Speaker 2: thing in some ways with the Hispanic the you know,
Speaker 2: the huge numbers of Hispanics that have entered this country
Speaker 2: in the last forty years, where it's they didn't take
Speaker 2: into account the the Catholicism of most of them, the
Speaker 2: vast majority of them are much stricter Catholics than Americans
Speaker 2: are now at this point, and so they have that morality.
Speaker 2: So they're never no matter what you say to them,
Speaker 2: how many commercials you have, they're not going to buy
Speaker 2: the transgender kind of nonsense. So and so I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, people tell me all the time, I'm not
Speaker 2: one of these people that think, I know there's you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's a force that rules the world. It's you know,
Speaker 2: I you know, Illuminati. What't you gonna call them? There's
Speaker 2: there are people that are at the top of everything,
Speaker 2: controlling things. Certainly the Jews certainly seem to have tremendous power, But.
Speaker 1: I look at blend of like, you know, them may
Speaker 1: be overrepresentative, but I think it's more like a cult,
Speaker 1: a very ancient cult, you know, sorcery and from Kia
Speaker 1: being the two components that seem to carry on for
Speaker 1: the last five thousand years. And you know what you
Speaker 1: may or may not you know, subscribe to as far
Speaker 1: as their ritual practices of arming children, But that's something
Speaker 1: that's been documented for thousands of years. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's specifically it's a Semitic thing or whatever, because
Speaker 1: even even that term doesn't make sense when applied to them.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's it's inaccurate because all the people
Speaker 2: they are Semitic. But yeah, but I think that people
Speaker 2: tend to credit them as whether they're reptilians or some
Speaker 2: kind of the film, or whether they think there's some
Speaker 2: kind of superior I don't buy that because I mean, again,
Speaker 2: they you know, they're not They're not very smart.
Speaker 1: A lot of.
Speaker 2: Times it's it's it's just that the people are so
Speaker 2: dumbed down and they're so unwilling to the average person
Speaker 2: is unwilling to look at it. Look at the way
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve operates. And I published a bit in history.
Speaker 2: I had a statement from the Federal Reserve of Boston.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked them, you know this is true. Do you
Speaker 2: really lend money you don't have? And they admitted, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. So I mean that something is in your face,
Speaker 2: as that you have people sitting in prison for counterfeiting everywhere,
Speaker 2: and every single loan under our fractional lending system is
Speaker 2: counterfeit because it isn't. It doesn't exist in money. If
Speaker 2: you wanted to lend me money, you'd have to have
Speaker 2: money to lend me. But if you're a Federal Reserve bank,
Speaker 2: you don't you say sure, I'll lend you one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Don't I don't have it? So I mean,
Speaker 2: just and how is that not counterfeiting?
Speaker 1: And then the usery aspect of it is that now
Speaker 1: we're going to charge you interest on something that you
Speaker 1: never had in the first place.
Speaker 2: That's very interest Yeah, exactly, so you couldn't call these loans.
Speaker 2: So even something as obvious as that. But I've tried
Speaker 2: to explain to people and it's not that they would
Speaker 2: recognize that that's wrong, but they don't think you're telling
Speaker 2: them the truth. They would have heard about it something
Speaker 2: I guess the Federal Reserve would have bragged about it,
Speaker 2: you know they If they haven't heard about it on
Speaker 2: you know, one of the networks, television networks, then you're
Speaker 2: just some crazy conspiracy kook saying.
Speaker 1: That box has to it has to be spoken through
Speaker 1: that box. Otherwise it doesn't. It's not real.
Speaker 2: So even even something as obvious as that, where anybody
Speaker 2: can see, okay, this is it's still because of the
Speaker 2: fact that you know that people are followers and they're
Speaker 2: not able to think for themselves. They're able to get
Speaker 2: away with it. But I don't think they're brilliant for
Speaker 2: doing that. I think I think they I think they
Speaker 2: like to play games with this. I talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: calling cards. I talk about the conspirators. They are like
Speaker 2: Jack the rippers, sometimes taunting the police, you know, with
Speaker 2: the from Hell letter to Scotland yard, like bragging about it.
Speaker 2: That's what they do, if you. It took me how
Speaker 2: many years researching the Kennedy assassination before I finally realized,
Speaker 2: you know, I've been talking about the magic bullet all
Speaker 2: this time and talked about that was an almost pristine
Speaker 2: condition and couldn't I thought, wait a minute, what they
Speaker 2: obviously planted this bullet? Why why would sophisticate the conspirators,
Speaker 2: these were sophisticated conspirators. Why wouldn't they have planted a bullet.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they have shot it into a tree or
Speaker 2: something first? Why Why wouldn't they made it look like
Speaker 2: it hit something? Instead? They planted because they wanted to.
Speaker 2: They wanted to. They were bragging. Same thing with nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. When you had the muhammadad as whatever, his
Speaker 2: passport floating down on top of all, you do that,
Speaker 2: it's a calling card. It's to say, yeah, okay, we
Speaker 2: did it, what are you gonna do about it? And
Speaker 2: and you know, you talk to the average person and
Speaker 2: they just look at you. I mean they were like,
Speaker 2: there's stories from nine to eleven. Again they were there. There,
Speaker 2: there was the heart slugging stories again that if the
Speaker 2: populace had any intelligence, they would realized. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: you're they're telling you all the flights that day were
Speaker 2: really mysteriously strangely under you know, under terms of pastors,
Speaker 2: way fewer Pasterners than normal, right, under booked. So but
Speaker 2: then they run this heartwarming story about these two women
Speaker 2: that had traveled together and they always flew together since
Speaker 2: they were in high school, but this time they were
Speaker 2: unable to get seats together on the same plane. Now,
Speaker 2: they just told you that all the planes were short
Speaker 2: of people. And again, if you have a critical thinking capacity,
Speaker 2: you gonna rise well when that's bullshit. But that's the
Speaker 2: kind of stuff they do. They play these head games
Speaker 2: with people. It drives me crazy listening to it. And again,
Speaker 2: if you tell the average normy, they you're crazy. You know,
Speaker 2: it's they can't think. And that's the problem is most
Speaker 2: people just can't think.
Speaker 1: I Uh, that reminds me of this uh channel called
Speaker 1: Honest Trailers, and they did one about the Titanic and
Speaker 1: they go from from from an event that had thousands
Speaker 1: of store real stories comes to one fake one. And
Speaker 1: that's like, from from this whole pool of things you
Speaker 1: could have talked about, this is the one fake one
Speaker 1: that we're gonna we're gonna dramatize for it. And it's
Speaker 1: it sounds just like that with the two women. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Certainly, even something like the Titanic that had
Speaker 2: a Federal Reserve connection there, Baby John, I didn't know
Speaker 2: I was. That was one of my few on conspiratorial
Speaker 2: areas of interest in that movie came out. I read
Speaker 2: some books about it. My neighbor at the time was
Speaker 2: really into it. We went and met it's a guy's
Speaker 2: named Barrett, the guy that raised the Titanic, Robert Barrett
Speaker 2: or whatever his name was, And we went and he
Speaker 2: had a book siding went and met him, and uh
Speaker 2: so I was really interested. But I I never even
Speaker 2: knew that John Jacob Astro was on board, little that
Speaker 2: he died, so, uh, you know these things are in
Speaker 2: that when that was the conspiracy was the sister Ship actually,
Speaker 2: and then you know.
Speaker 1: They yeah, yeah, a fraud.
Speaker 2: But so there's there's things. And that's why I say,
Speaker 2: you know, when I'm writing about hidden history, I I'm
Speaker 2: hoping at some point to find some part of history
Speaker 2: to write about where I can say, okay, they told
Speaker 2: the truth about it. That had happened yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I was just reading memory, memory hole,
Speaker 1: like the little things that happened, well not really little,
Speaker 1: but I mean the Mexican War, the Trosty's that happened there,
Speaker 1: and it's hey, well there's another example of how the
Speaker 1: government is just absolutely just the same things that we
Speaker 1: are witnessing right now that Israel as doing over in
Speaker 1: Gaza have happened here long before then. And the type
Speaker 1: of atrocities, the way they handled the South, that's that's horrific.
Speaker 1: You know, the you know, the scorged earth, the total war.
Speaker 1: You were talking about burning people's houses down south, in
Speaker 1: their fields, oiling their fields, taking them and stripping them
Speaker 1: bare and sending them out into the snow, raping everything
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a boy or girl or you know, adults,
Speaker 1: and it's just this is what how Americans treated other Americans?
Speaker 1: What was behind that? Because you know how many times
Speaker 1: I've heard people say, even if the government tried to
Speaker 1: do anything to us, the people wouldn't do it. They
Speaker 1: would they wouldn't follow their orders because you know, they
Speaker 1: know people and they're not going to do that to people.
Speaker 1: They I'll go, it's there's a precedence for fests for this,
Speaker 1: and the people that inform and train them are all
Speaker 1: your enemies, The CIA, the FBI that go through their
Speaker 1: training will be wreck Yeah. Exactly, Like how have the
Speaker 1: police been treating you lately?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Tell me that, you know what I mean? It's like,
Speaker 1: when are they going to start to uh get this
Speaker 1: character and nobility that you keep talking of?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think that's why history history is so
Speaker 2: important that if you if you look at because again,
Speaker 2: what does it say about our society that that Abraham
Speaker 2: Lincoln this is the figure that's your secular saint? And
Speaker 2: I I wrote about that in the book What Is It?
Speaker 2: And I talked about how, you know, what what a
Speaker 2: flawed person he was, you know, being again I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't that doesn't necessarily disqualify him as a leader.
Speaker 2: That he was an atheist. But he apparently was to
Speaker 2: the extent that he wrote a rebuttal to the New
Speaker 2: Testament when he was young, and is his backers when
Speaker 2: he was going to the politics went and burned it
Speaker 2: because they didn't want a trace of that. The fact
Speaker 2: that he was probably gay. And again that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: disqualify him, but that's why you have the log cabin
Speaker 2: Republicans and everything, and but it's it's it's a character flaw.
Speaker 2: And you know the idea that from what I've been
Speaker 2: able to determine his his nickname, honest Dade was the
Speaker 2: nickname of ridicule, right, yes, exactly the same kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So so he's he wasn't and and he was. He
Speaker 2: was a corporate stooge. He was a tool of the railroads.
Speaker 2: As a lawyer and as an American memory Hall have
Speaker 2: a shocking case. We discovered that uh where he represented
Speaker 2: a slaveholder in a runaway slave case. This is the
Speaker 2: great emancipator. He he represented the guy who was trying
Speaker 2: to get a slave back. He didn't represent the runaway slave.
Speaker 2: And if you told that to the average American, they
Speaker 2: again they wouldn't believe you. What ho a staved the
Speaker 2: Great Emancipator. Yeah, Hones saved the Great Amanserbator, who also
Speaker 2: wanted to send them all back to Liberia, as most
Speaker 2: whites did then. And so he wasn't anything out of
Speaker 2: the unusual for for somebody, but this this guy.
Speaker 1: And so what that does is it helps it helps
Speaker 1: to let people maybe hopefully you know, indicate to them
Speaker 1: that this wasn't about this wasn't a slave war. You know,
Speaker 1: an issue of slavery was about secession and getting away
Speaker 1: from the federalists and those who wanted to centralized control. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the real thing here. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we could talk about federalism and the federalists
Speaker 1: like that was that was Hamiltonian, that was that was
Speaker 1: the banker's position, strong centralized everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was and that was the main that
Speaker 2: was the main bone of contention in the early years
Speaker 2: of the Republic. The main issue was between the federalists.
Speaker 2: They liked Hamilton, who influenced George Washington too many others
Speaker 2: to go for a strong central government, who invented debt.
Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the revolution, it was
Speaker 2: Hamilton that talked him into you know, assuming all the
Speaker 2: debt from all the individual states. So we got our
Speaker 2: national debt under him, and you had people like Jefferson,
Speaker 2: who was who led the other side. He said, no,
Speaker 2: this is we want to we want to limited central government.
Speaker 2: These were people that liked the articles Confederation and and
Speaker 2: didn't we're suspicious of the Constitution and until they put
Speaker 2: the Bill of Rights in and then okay, it's palatable.
Speaker 2: Now you have the separation of powers. But the separation
Speaker 2: of powers was broken at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think Samuel Adams actually, like you know, he protested
Speaker 1: the Bill of Rights. Didn't He wasn't Samuel Adams who
Speaker 1: did that. He wasn't he was I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: He may have. I don't know, but I don't know
Speaker 2: about that. But I mean, but in terms of yeah,
Speaker 2: the Bill of Rights didn't pacify, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it passed by Patrick Kenry. He smelt a rat as
Speaker 2: he said it. You go on into the cutstations. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm fine with the Constitution if
Speaker 2: they obeyed it and they had the separation of powers,
Speaker 2: and if they you know, the Bill of Rights was
Speaker 2: sacrisank and understood that you had to like every police
Speaker 2: officer had to had to couldn't violate the Fourth Amendment,
Speaker 2: which they do every time pretty much they make a stop.
Speaker 2: But if you understood that in the first Amendment was
Speaker 2: Sakris sank and all that. People talk about the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about the first and the fourth at
Speaker 2: this point. But you know, if you have.
Speaker 1: A yeah, the second is when the first and the
Speaker 1: fourth aren't followed.
Speaker 2: Exactly. But I mean, I think we showed during COVID
Speaker 2: that I I don't know what point the Second Amendment
Speaker 2: is the entire world was shut down, the entire every
Speaker 2: small business owners everywhere. I didn't see any small business
Speaker 2: owners joining together with their guns and saying, no, we're
Speaker 2: not going to shut down our business. That's debisit. We
Speaker 2: can't do that. You can't, that's unconstitutional. I didn't see
Speaker 2: one example of that. Yeah, and you had that that
Speaker 2: that gym owner in New Jersey with the beard, that
Speaker 2: was great, but uh, you know, there were no guns involved,
Speaker 2: and you had the lady in Texas it was the
Speaker 2: hairdresser was very courageous as well. I can't nobody backed
Speaker 2: them up and nobody came out with their guns. If
Speaker 2: if your guns were not going to be used in
Speaker 2: that's and that doesn't mean you go shoot people.
Speaker 1: In solidarity.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you don't let that. You don't let a
Speaker 2: tyrannical act like shutting down your business and destroying your livelihood.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the false accusations to demonize people
Speaker 1: that they all they cleared them of all their you know,
Speaker 1: child abuse accusations and all that stuff long after the fact.
Speaker 1: So what was the point. Why did you go in
Speaker 1: shooting in the first place? Why did you Haveter's already
Speaker 1: right there to shoot down at And it's a freaking church,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Those are and those are when when you look at
Speaker 2: American history in other countries, I'm sure I'm just concerned
Speaker 2: concerned with our history because it's it's easier for me
Speaker 2: to know and to live through a lot of it.
Speaker 2: But when something like Waco, and there's so many examples
Speaker 2: like that, but that's one of the most agree I
Speaker 2: consider it to be. Because it happened under the Clinton administration,
Speaker 2: I would consider it to be the most impeachable offense
Speaker 2: that any president ever committed. Although Obama killing a wedding
Speaker 2: party in Yemen was pretty.
Speaker 1: Bad, right when the guy turned on a cell phone
Speaker 1: and they took nuke out everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was you know, that was awful
Speaker 2: and then bragging about it. But but when you have
Speaker 2: things like that happen, and again that's why I'm find
Speaker 2: the saying for a lot. I wrote the book Survival
Speaker 2: of the Richest, So I've been talking for a long
Speaker 2: time about I'm hue long as my hero, analytical hear hero,
Speaker 2: and I think that the incredible disparity of wealth is
Speaker 2: the biggest pri thought was the biggest problem for a
Speaker 2: long time, and it's still a huge problem. But I
Speaker 2: think that the biggest problem now is this over writing corruption.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm concerned without the Epstein thing now is
Speaker 2: that you have such corruption at all levels that you
Speaker 2: had in my area Fairfax County, we had neighboring county
Speaker 2: were used to work loud in County, Virginia that was
Speaker 2: the epicenter of the student of the parent and school
Speaker 2: board protest when we had angry including the guy that
Speaker 2: was arrested after his daughter was raped in a bathroom
Speaker 2: by an alleged transgender who still had something to raper
Speaker 2: with because he was just saying he was a girl
Speaker 2: and he wasn't. But it wasn't even you know, going
Speaker 2: through that, but nothing happened there. And so Fairbacks County
Speaker 2: recently voted seventeen to nothing the school board seventeen to zero.
Speaker 2: And this is this is years after the first protest happened.
Speaker 2: So obviously they got no one out. They didn't vote
Speaker 2: anyone out seventeen to zero to continue gender studies for
Speaker 2: elementary school students. And this was after Yeah, and so
Speaker 2: this is what I'm saying about. So we can't even
Speaker 2: get change and acted at that level.
Speaker 1: That's so criminal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. The corruption is so deep from top
Speaker 2: to bomb. You have a ninety six percent reelection rate
Speaker 2: every year in Congress. Is if these guys are doing
Speaker 2: a great job. So it's a lower turn of rate
Speaker 2: than we had in the uh.
Speaker 1: Uh, Well, we gotta gotta basically assume that, you know,
Speaker 1: we vote for the simple fact of the of the
Speaker 1: ritual of doing so, so we feel like we feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that it has anything to do with
Speaker 1: the outcome.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think so either. But but so
Speaker 2: that to me, and that's why this Epstein thing is
Speaker 2: so important, is because any even as a symbolic thing
Speaker 2: at some point if if somebody, because they can't everybody,
Speaker 2: even the people that are asleep. No, it's a general
Speaker 2: awareness of you know, people in high places are corrupt.
Speaker 2: There's corruption everywhere, there's favoritism. Uh, and the certainly no
Speaker 2: one is above the law. That nonsense. But uh, you
Speaker 2: know it's point if you don't if none of these people,
Speaker 2: all these high criminals that we know exist and somebody
Speaker 2: like Epstein we know, we've heard all the people that
Speaker 2: we've seen the pictures of him with Trump and Clinton
Speaker 2: and every we know, we know he had he ran
Speaker 2: with some in half of Hollywood. And if you don't
Speaker 2: have because for instance, Julane maxwells I said, in light
Speaker 2: of the fact that they're all climbing, there was no list,
Speaker 2: she has every right to be released from prison. What
Speaker 2: was she convicted for? What was she doing? Because you
Speaker 2: were saying, first of all, you produced no men. She
Speaker 2: was convicted even though they didn't produce a single person
Speaker 2: who she trafficked the children too, because they didn't want
Speaker 2: to mention anybody. So if I've been to Laire and
Speaker 2: say you're on all right, this case needs to be
Speaker 2: dismissed because who did my client who did my client,
Speaker 2: you know, procure these.
Speaker 1: Women for Yeah, because everybody's so linked it. He had
Speaker 1: such a domino effect and it would be systemic and
Speaker 1: it's uh and it's a devastation, so nothing nobody can
Speaker 1: let that go out. And I find this happening a
Speaker 1: lot with any type of child abuse cases too, because
Speaker 1: it's I mean, there was just one recently where a
Speaker 1: guy was uh brought up on charges for you know,
Speaker 1: sexually assaulting a child and they found text messages between
Speaker 1: him and the judge China set up a nine year
Speaker 1: old for him. I mean, this is this is the level.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing at this, but yeah, but that's and that's
Speaker 2: what that's that's that's about as bad as you gets it.
Speaker 2: Bad is what I'm talking about. When you have I
Speaker 2: don't know what the Rome was like under Caligula and
Speaker 2: all this, but I don't I don't know what Sodom
Speaker 2: mcmoor was like. That could have be any worse than this.
Speaker 2: But when you have this kind of corruption and it's
Speaker 2: never you have a candidate like Trump who runs on
Speaker 2: draining the swamp, we're gonna hold people accountable, and does nothing.
Speaker 2: The entire first term doesn't prosecute a single person. Now
Speaker 2: it looks like maybe he's going.
Speaker 1: To That's like that when the trailer is better than
Speaker 1: the movie, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot better. I mean, they can't even prosecute
Speaker 2: call me or you know McCabe any these people that
Speaker 2: obviously say them up, they can't do anything like that.
Speaker 2: And you have something Epstein, who's maybe one of the
Speaker 2: big fish here when you're when you're playing these kind
Speaker 2: of games with it saying he killed he killed himself
Speaker 2: and now the only actually didn't even have a listen
Speaker 2: that that says to the public, you know, this is
Speaker 2: this is this is like you know, the tin pot
Speaker 2: dictators and you know, in the actual we're a third
Speaker 2: world country, but countries they call third world countries, uh,
Speaker 2: doing that kind of stuff that that are you know
Speaker 2: somebody like Magabi, you know, killing three, you know, half
Speaker 2: his population and staying in power forever and nobody complains
Speaker 2: about it. It's like, wait a minute, this this guy
Speaker 2: wasn't some kind of a you know, a mass murder
Speaker 2: three to five and six million or however, and he
Speaker 2: killed him. But that's the problem is that we we
Speaker 2: don't we have no moral compasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: We don't have any moral compass, any moral.
Speaker 1: Reson Ollens record. That's why I was saying it maybe
Speaker 1: pull Pie, but he couldn't step.
Speaker 2: Well, we know Hitler's the only one that ever mentioned
Speaker 2: so then and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you that since you brought it up,
Speaker 1: have you seen have you have you put the twelve
Speaker 1: hours into viewing the documentary UH Europe of the Last Battle?
Speaker 1: Do you think they make a I mean, I would
Speaker 1: recommend everybody watch it in the world.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I seen it, but I but
Speaker 2: I'm again I'm familiar with and again I as I
Speaker 2: told people with because a lot of my I attract
Speaker 2: people like you know, so a lot of my people
Speaker 2: that are regular readers of mine, I know they like Hitler,
Speaker 2: and I know they like the Nazis and I and again, look,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I know how bad we were. So
Speaker 2: but I also I read Anthony Sutton's Wall Street and
Speaker 2: The Rise of Hitler way back when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Scott is I mean I used
Speaker 1: to follow him and he's got a lot of good points,
Speaker 1: but then he I think it's this idea of conflating
Speaker 1: other things that aren't verified, and just okay, so here's
Speaker 1: my here's my overall, and I just I think that
Speaker 1: he's your poll. Once you say, okay, these are the lying,
Speaker 1: liars who lie, and these are the core historians, at
Speaker 1: what point do you take any of their narratives without scrutiny?
Speaker 1: So why do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: With what they say about Hitler when it's the Soviets,
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, it's like that's basically who are
Speaker 1: taking the the word for, you know when?
Speaker 2: And I agree with that you like, So I I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't believe and I don't believe anything said about
Speaker 2: Hitler because again I don't think it's possible to know,
Speaker 2: because he's the most demonized figure in world history, certainly
Speaker 2: in our history, and so anything we know how they
Speaker 2: come up with the foreign hot goblins with you know,
Speaker 2: people like you mentioned Kanafi? Who? And again I I
Speaker 2: go to things like why is Kanafi's now spelled with
Speaker 2: the G? It was spelled with a Q and then
Speaker 2: a K. Now it's spelled with a G. And I
Speaker 2: questioned because I don't know what that means, but I do.
Speaker 2: I remember reading it. It's like a Mandela effect or something.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense. But so I call him Cutafi
Speaker 2: because I I when I first saw he was was
Speaker 2: a Q. But somebody like that that is apparently did
Speaker 2: really good work for his people, we hear. I don't know,
Speaker 2: And of course I've heard people. You know, we know
Speaker 2: Hitler built the Autumn and you know, revamped the German
Speaker 2: economy that had worse depression than ours. And so I understand.
Speaker 1: And the whole book turning thing was all the smut,
Speaker 1: that was the transgender crap that they were getting rid of.
Speaker 1: Like that's all you should try reading books instead of
Speaker 1: burning them, they say. And I used to like like
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones, but that was all. That was all freaking propaganda.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. And and that's and that's the
Speaker 2: problem to find anything it's not so again, anything to
Speaker 2: do with Hitler. It's impotant. I don't know what what
Speaker 2: the truth is there, whether it's in and he you know,
Speaker 2: he obviously was steered into Argentina after the war and
Speaker 2: lived there for live write about that books. I think
Speaker 2: I tend to think he was the designated loser in
Speaker 2: World War two, and I think you know that that
Speaker 2: was his role. I mean, I I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I don't know beyond that, and uh, you know, but
Speaker 2: I know there's a romanticized view that he was you know,
Speaker 2: he was trying to fight them, and he was he
Speaker 2: was doing it. And certainly on the surface, obviously people
Speaker 2: I can see how people would I would see that,
Speaker 2: but I again, I only I don't even try to
Speaker 2: analyze what happened in any other country because like people
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, any hotspot around the world, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going there.
Speaker 1: Because when when our involvement were the people who can
Speaker 1: who control us are doing something actively in another country,
Speaker 1: I think that's when we have to take a look
Speaker 1: at it, you know. And then when we're when we're
Speaker 1: looking at Britain, we're looking at an extension of us
Speaker 1: through the banking system. So when they're when they're terror
Speaker 1: bombing the ship out of civilians in Germany for three years,
Speaker 1: I mean, we got to look at that and we
Speaker 1: got to see what kind of horrific things were they
Speaker 1: doing to Germany? And why do you think people are
Speaker 1: starving in camps and all throughout Germany because all their
Speaker 1: trade routes were destroyed and there's no food anywhere for anybody.
Speaker 1: So it's not like they were mistreating anybody. And these
Speaker 1: these were camps were actually in this sense like when
Speaker 1: they were doing the transfer agreement, they were bringing people
Speaker 1: over to Palestine for the Zionists because it was a
Speaker 1: mutual you know, win win for them. And they were
Speaker 1: also making sure that they were secured with all of
Speaker 1: their wealth. They weren't stealing everything they you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was, it was all set up. And
Speaker 1: then when when the war broke out, that that ended
Speaker 1: the Havara Agreement.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that's basically if you do from reading
Speaker 2: my books, that that's basically what I do. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't comment really on what was happening in Germany
Speaker 2: the Hitler, or what was happening in Japan or anything.
Speaker 2: But I do and I don't comment really on I
Speaker 2: don't content really talk about what the Confederates may have
Speaker 2: done atrocities, because we've heard allegations of all these things.
Speaker 2: The people that the losers. The history is written by
Speaker 2: the victors. But I can comment on the atrocities that
Speaker 2: are documented that the North committed in the Civil War.
Speaker 2: And then you know, even as you mentioned the Mexican
Speaker 2: American War, the things we did there that we were horrible.
Speaker 1: And behavior is what we need. It comes back up.
Speaker 1: And all these people who think that this just certainly
Speaker 1: couldn't happen, I think those are the ones that have
Speaker 1: to read that type of stuff to understand that it
Speaker 1: already has and it has multiple times. You know.
Speaker 2: So whatever whatever Hitler may have done, I do know
Speaker 2: what we did. I know, I do know that they
Speaker 2: but we but what we did at Dresden and after
Speaker 2: the war with Operation Keel Hall and I and I've
Speaker 2: talked about all these in my books. I've talked about
Speaker 2: how our GI's and the Russians and the Americans raped
Speaker 2: so many women in Japan and Germany that they had
Speaker 2: to create special brothels for them. So I mean that, so,
Speaker 2: even if you're supposedly the good guys, why are you
Speaker 2: raping so many women? I mean that you automatically or
Speaker 2: stop being good at that point, are don't you? I
Speaker 2: mean so, but this is documented stuff. So that's I
Speaker 2: think we can document what we did. What the opponent did.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because there's so much demonization and it's
Speaker 2: hard to figure out what was really happening there. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't live there, and I'm sure people
Speaker 2: in those countries, you know, especially Germany, would be afraid
Speaker 2: to speak out afterwards because you know, they know.
Speaker 1: They destroyed them, especially like the education that all. They
Speaker 1: reprogrammed those people forever to hate themselves. And that's bad
Speaker 1: because I have Germanic blood, I mean, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's I think there's been a war against specifically Germanic
Speaker 1: Gothic people for quite many thousands of years. And what's
Speaker 1: funny is that Bolsheviks go after farmers an awful lot,
Speaker 1: because independence in any way is not good because that
Speaker 1: decentralizes their central control. And I find that interesting because
Speaker 1: when you go back into history, they say that the
Speaker 1: Gothic or the Sumerians were the ones who kind of
Speaker 1: introduced agriculture to the to the people. And it's just
Speaker 1: it's funny because that was going against the cult of
Speaker 1: that time, which was like a moon cult. And that's
Speaker 1: where you get like, you know, this idea of is
Speaker 1: the saturn cult, of the serpent cult or whatever this was.
Speaker 1: This was Semitic in nature. So they we're at war
Speaker 1: with the Goths because of that because you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things that they that they associated with with,
Speaker 1: you know, this insurgence of the Nordics or whatever was
Speaker 1: agriculture and for like forever, it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: it's like a ripple effect or like a resonating through
Speaker 1: a history that Do you have some place I saw
Speaker 1: that you were looking over. Do you have a time?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just looking right now. I have to look.
Speaker 2: I could go on for another fifteen minutes show. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're thinking of, but how long
Speaker 2: you're thinking of?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's fine. So I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: if I could look at this real quick and take
Speaker 1: a look. Yeah. So we already kind of covered pretty
Speaker 1: much what I was said here. What Okay, conflicting views.
Speaker 1: I've seen some people like to say that Aaron Bird
Speaker 1: was doing some nefarious things, and I don't think it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know what to make
Speaker 1: of that. But they're saying he was trying to do
Speaker 1: is split off and you know, I was working towards that.
Speaker 1: But I mean Jefferson Day as you as you pointed out,
Speaker 1: he was trying to get or recognized by the British
Speaker 1: government as its own nation and a free one. They
Speaker 1: were already working at this goal, long before there was
Speaker 1: any you know needs. And again another another indication that
Speaker 1: this wasn't a boar on slavery, for slavery or against
Speaker 1: it or whatever. Nobody was fighting over that. It was
Speaker 1: it was halfway through that they decided to make it
Speaker 1: about that. And it just you said, four point eight
Speaker 1: percent at the at the onset of the war, even
Speaker 1: four percent of the South even owned slaves, and there
Speaker 1: were black slave owners, there were you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: there were white slaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's no question there.
Speaker 1: Was an in dentry servants from Europe as you know.
Speaker 2: Just again just it's not very quoting your own documents
Speaker 2: or own words that if you look at and you know,
Speaker 2: I have so much about Sherman, who I think was
Speaker 2: just a psychopaths that ever wore uniform shared in there
Speaker 2: is such a thing. Yeah they are horrible. But if
Speaker 2: you look at you juxtaposed that against the letter I published,
Speaker 2: I think I think it's an American memorical. We're I'm
Speaker 2: sorry getting mixed up. I've got ten books now, so
Speaker 2: I trying to figure out which which is in which,
Speaker 2: But I think it's that letter from Roberty Lee. I
Speaker 2: think it's from Lee and Jefferson both the Jefferson Davis both,
Speaker 2: where they it's based on instructions on how to conduct
Speaker 2: themselves and how even though the enemy is doing these
Speaker 2: horrible things, we don't want that you're not gonna and
Speaker 2: so you know, and I point out there, okay, so
Speaker 2: you know if you're looking at this as a as
Speaker 2: a disinterested reader who looks good to you and who
Speaker 2: looks bad to you at that point, because you're the
Speaker 2: bad guys are the ones who were saying, hey, we
Speaker 2: should behave ourselves and have civil wars. We shouldn't target civilians,
Speaker 2: we shouldn't do all the rape and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But the good guys are the ones who are doing
Speaker 2: the total war, the sports durance strategy, who are raping
Speaker 2: everything that moves, and who are burning crops and all
Speaker 2: they the earths that they can't you know, survive afterwards.
Speaker 1: And then they were even doing criminals after the fact
Speaker 1: in the reconstruction period and making you know, magistrates and
Speaker 1: judges and all this other trap like that was to
Speaker 1: destroy them.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, keeps it right. And people and I remember
Speaker 2: I think I said it on rents or when people
Speaker 2: are always amazed at some of these little tidbits of history,
Speaker 2: and I was amazed finding it out when I wrote,
Speaker 2: when I wrote the Crimes and cover Ups, that Reconstruction
Speaker 2: never would We probably would still have Reconstruction. It only
Speaker 2: ended because of one of the first examples of tremendous
Speaker 2: vote fraud, the election of eighteen seventy six. I think
Speaker 2: it was when Samuel Tilden, the Democrat, was robbed by
Speaker 2: Ruther to be Hayes. And when the House are representatives,
Speaker 2: it was so obvious they had a committee that voted
Speaker 2: eight to seven on party lines and Republicans for and
Speaker 2: gave all the quest states and questions to Hayes. And
Speaker 2: they even they, I guess they had a pang of
Speaker 2: guilt and they recognized how over the top this wasn't
Speaker 2: they So they threw a tremendous concession to the Democrats
Speaker 2: and they ended Reconstruction. So Reconstruction only ended because of
Speaker 2: the corruption of eighteen seventy six election. And most people
Speaker 2: were amazed to hear that. But so I don't know
Speaker 2: if it ever would have other than that. But I
Speaker 2: mean the fact that they were kept under occupation for
Speaker 2: all that time. Yeah, we're talking about you know, over
Speaker 2: a decade.
Speaker 1: Is that what you do to fellow Americans? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, we couldn't even think about it like that now.
Speaker 1: But for that to have happened in the time of that,
Speaker 1: we thought our country was the strongest, was the most
Speaker 1: put together, had its values, wasn't demoralized, wasn't subverted. Yet
Speaker 1: to have something like that occur, it's just mind bottling.
Speaker 2: And those are the good guys, I said, bears, repeating,
Speaker 2: So you who's good and who's bad? And and that's
Speaker 2: what I when I when I looked at these, I
Speaker 2: try to just rely on you know, documents, and but
Speaker 2: I mean you just you know, these are these are
Speaker 2: nothing nothing in my work his theory, people tall I'm
Speaker 2: not a conspiracy theorist because I tell people tell me
Speaker 2: what my theory is. I mean, I have a general idea, right.
Speaker 1: Like because you have to Once he gets like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is the material that's available to me. And
Speaker 1: I always say this myself, if if and I always
Speaker 1: use the if if this is true, because it could
Speaker 1: it could be up to it. Then this this seems
Speaker 1: like this is what it means, you know, and it
Speaker 1: but it could always be new information that I didn't
Speaker 1: have or we find out that that information was corrupt.
Speaker 2: And so when you have someone you confronted with things
Speaker 2: like in crimes and cover ups I have. I think
Speaker 2: it's one of the most powerful pieces of evidence that
Speaker 2: you can have. And I'm sure that Smmy Burns when
Speaker 2: he was doing a Civil War thing and other court historians,
Speaker 2: you're not going to do it. But there's there was
Speaker 2: a guy, a union officer. But he's a union officer,
Speaker 2: that lieutenant I think it was Myers or something. But
Speaker 2: he was writing home to his parents and he was
Speaker 2: he was bragging about all the theft. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's complaining about it having there yeah there. Now
Speaker 2: sure Sherman is taking a cut of everything, and he's
Speaker 2: got enough gold and silver to start his own backs.
Speaker 2: That is the best evidence, because this guy does no
Speaker 2: invested interest here, He's got no extra grind. He's he's
Speaker 2: supporting it. He loves the fact that they're stealing all
Speaker 2: this stuff. He's a young kid, and he's bragging to
Speaker 2: his family. But the fact that he you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's complaining about So just think of that. What where
Speaker 2: along the line did we get the idea that war
Speaker 2: you know, included things like raping, and including things like
Speaker 2: you think you defeated an enemy, so you have a
Speaker 2: right to rape their women or maybe their kids. But
Speaker 2: here you have a right. Why do you think you
Speaker 2: have a right to steal the personal property of people?
Speaker 2: And that's what they were doing.
Speaker 1: That's the protecting part about it. It's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: were taking photo albums, family bibles that had photographs, and
Speaker 1: boats and all kinds of records. They were burning down
Speaker 1: courthouses that had you know, back then there wasn't anything.
Speaker 1: It would all property rights and marriages were like up
Speaker 1: in the air. Who knows what's what because all the
Speaker 1: legal documents are gone, you know, if you got.
Speaker 2: To if you got to that part in American memory
Speaker 2: hole yet. But one of the most fascinating things we discovered,
Speaker 2: and again I always tipped my hat to my researchers,
Speaker 2: Chris Grays and Peter see Guy's who helped me a lot.
Speaker 2: But when the McLain family that owned the Appomatics Courthouse
Speaker 2: where they were the lease surrendered to Grant, I was
Speaker 2: shocked to discovernment even there that the Union soldiers were
Speaker 2: stealing everything out of the and the McLain family was
Speaker 2: a scandal for.
Speaker 1: Years, like sailing with chairs. I did get to that part.
Speaker 1: They were robbing everything, candle holders, everything they could take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they stole some some children's
Speaker 2: toys or something. It's like, yeah, this is this is
Speaker 2: this is psychopathic behavior. It's got nothing to do with
Speaker 2: winning a war. At what point, why would you do
Speaker 2: But as I described in Crimes and Cover, I've said,
Speaker 2: I think it was that one, not American Memory Hall,
Speaker 2: but they were you know, they would do things. They
Speaker 2: would literally just like steal children's toys or destroy them
Speaker 2: or shoot dogs. And again they were shooting dogs for
Speaker 2: a sport in Iraq. You know, this, this is a
Speaker 2: this has become accepted tradition, and we know obviously the
Speaker 2: rapes have continued.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they dogs had to skull and when
Speaker 1: the kids are yeah, in.
Speaker 2: Front of the kids. And it's just that these are
Speaker 2: these are hideous crimes. And the only reason.
Speaker 1: There's rage from because that what kind of person is
Speaker 1: that in the first place, Like, these aren't the people
Speaker 1: that you walk around. Maybe it is, but like that's
Speaker 1: not in me. I'm sure it's not in you to
Speaker 1: do that. So how did these people come about and
Speaker 1: why didn't they get positions to do this.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's group mentality. And I
Speaker 2: think that when you it's one of the things that
Speaker 2: Sheridan's sherman said that was correct, is war as hell.
Speaker 1: I could never do that to somebody else, especially the
Speaker 1: children who have nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But I think that again once this, once
Speaker 2: you immerse yourself and as a killer, be killed mentality.
Speaker 2: And that's the only thing I can figure. I don't
Speaker 2: know how you how you could do something like that,
Speaker 2: And I don't know as That's why I said I'm
Speaker 2: just talking about America because I don't know. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the Confederates did that too. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't because but again, yeah, by what you saw
Speaker 1: from from Lee, I don't think it would have been permitted. No,
Speaker 1: I don't rules and hangings, right, and so in.
Speaker 2: The same thing, we don't know what the Germans are
Speaker 2: accused and so many things, and the Japan you know,
Speaker 2: with the medical experiments and stuff, but we know in
Speaker 2: medical experience we had it's the same kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It's like what what it's you know, they tell stories
Speaker 2: about their enemies and projection project a lot. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of Yeah, and even in America, Membor, I
Speaker 2: think it was America. Again, I don't know which book
Speaker 2: it was, but I talked about some of the things
Speaker 2: again happened in Korea as well, same kind of atrocities.
Speaker 2: And we know when you had the Myli massacre and
Speaker 2: so many other things in Vietna, that things were happening
Speaker 2: all the time. And Oliver Stones movie Platoon really opened
Speaker 2: the eyes to people what friendly fire is and that
Speaker 2: when you have in that situation like that, you could
Speaker 2: and that apparently what happened to Pat Tillman.
Speaker 1: Later, I was about to ask you if you had
Speaker 1: in comments about Pat Tillan because that was apparently was
Speaker 1: a three round burst to the face by a NATO soldier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think and that what you know,
Speaker 2: what was it was because he was becoming vocally critical
Speaker 2: of the war. I don't know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But talking to Noam Chomsky and of all the people
Speaker 1: to to to share the letters or whatever, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they were. I'm sure they were intercepted before they went
Speaker 1: to his mom anyway. I mean, I'm sure that's probably
Speaker 1: happened anyway, because they do that in jail, right they
Speaker 1: read your lettership, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Of course, and it's it's so I don't but I
Speaker 2: do know that. You know, my Cindy, she has become
Speaker 2: a friend of mine and I just admire her so much.
Speaker 2: You know, lost her son in the Warrens. She was
Speaker 2: the International Peace momb for a while, and I'm fascinated
Speaker 2: with her because she was. She was a cause celebro
Speaker 2: on the left for a long time. She got to
Speaker 2: know and become friends with people I haven't long admired,
Speaker 2: like Jackson Brown and people like that. But once Obama
Speaker 2: got elected, she still was seeing what was going on,
Speaker 2: and she said, well, he's still bombing in the same countries,
Speaker 2: and so she still spoke out, but the left went silent,
Speaker 2: and so she lost her position on the left because
Speaker 2: of that, because they were obviously very partisan. And so
Speaker 2: she is still great in the way she taught and
Speaker 2: she couldn't be pacified. They couldn't pacify her by making
Speaker 2: her son out to be some hero and given a
Speaker 2: bunch of medals. And that's the same thing they were
Speaker 2: trying to do with Pat Tillman. They're trying to make
Speaker 2: it and his brother made a great speech at his
Speaker 2: funeral said this is all bullshit, and you know they
Speaker 2: so some people don't buy it, most people they can,
Speaker 2: and I can kind of understand it, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're here in that terrible situation where you you lose
Speaker 2: your child for some senseless reason because he went over seas.
Speaker 1: Or even a noble one, that's even worse. Right, Like
Speaker 1: he didn't like the idea of sitting poppy fields and
Speaker 1: all this other shit that he saw going on and
Speaker 1: where they were actually doing there, and he just was
Speaker 1: he's I think he said something like, as soon as
Speaker 1: I get stayside, I've got some stories to tell or something.
Speaker 2: And so he gets shot, and they showed exactly and
Speaker 2: in Oliver Stones Platoon the way he presented a lot
Speaker 2: of times, it was like.
Speaker 1: Getting rid of Elias. Is that you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just sometimes it's just a personality conflict.
Speaker 2: This guy's annoying, and it's it's a way, as as
Speaker 2: Harry Peck, the last surviving soldier of World War One,
Speaker 2: described and he said war as organized murder, nothing else,
Speaker 2: and it's it's a way for real psychopaths to kill
Speaker 2: and get away with it and even become declared hero.
Speaker 2: So a situation like that, it's kind of like a
Speaker 2: purge mentality.
Speaker 1: And no wonder why the international bankers would fund both sides.
Speaker 1: It's not because one is working with them. It's because
Speaker 1: they want to see a lot of people get killed.
Speaker 1: And everybody that they like, all the companies that they own,
Speaker 1: profit greatly from the sale of war munitions. So of
Speaker 1: course they don't care because it's all papers to them anyway,
Speaker 1: it's not real wealth anyway, But lots of lots of
Speaker 1: lots of gentiles will be dead. So when when Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's.
Speaker 2: The way it works out. And and but I mean,
Speaker 2: so you and.
Speaker 1: You think going with their I m F flowins and
Speaker 1: control their country, So it might as well fund both
Speaker 1: of them because you're gonna and you're gonna own their
Speaker 1: countries afterwards.
Speaker 2: Sure, So it's it's you know, And that's why I
Speaker 2: continue to talk about Smedley Butler obviously Wars of Rack
Speaker 2: and I talk about Jennette Rankin.
Speaker 1: Who was I needed to learn about Smedley?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: He seems like an interesting character.
Speaker 2: Oh one, well, just I mean he was again, he's
Speaker 2: the guy he talked about how he man how the
Speaker 2: profits he made for all these companies and everything and
Speaker 2: Latin America and a lot of that was during as
Speaker 2: we go into that in American memory hole, where we
Speaker 2: talked a lot about what Wood or Rolso was doing
Speaker 2: and you know, invade in Mexico eight times and the
Speaker 2: things they did and Haiti and Dominican Republic things that
Speaker 2: I didn't know about. So we were war.
Speaker 1: We were evil. Yeah, Like you go from you go
Speaker 1: from Wilson to well Teddy Teddy to Wilson to you know,
Speaker 1: these these people were are basically, I almost want to say,
Speaker 1: like activated around the same time of the brand Eye
Speaker 1: push for once he gets to the you know, the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice, but he was already working to make
Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve thing happen. And he had a really
Speaker 1: big hand in the Balfour Declaration that people don't know
Speaker 1: about either. Like brandeis was like everywhere, and he looks
Speaker 1: strikingly a lot like Lincoln if you take away the
Speaker 1: emaciation of his age when they were younger, they have
Speaker 1: a very interesting look. I don't know if it's anything
Speaker 1: to that, but.
Speaker 2: Well, these are and you can That's why I think
Speaker 2: you can when I'm running these these books. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of times it's just tempting to say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, if someone's been portrayed as a hero by
Speaker 2: the court historians, I can almost assume he was a
Speaker 2: villain and vie. I mean, I don't know, it's not
Speaker 2: quite to that extent.
Speaker 1: But they don't want a hero, They want the right.
Speaker 1: They want to demonize the heroes because they don't want
Speaker 1: that type of influence. They don't want to inspire people
Speaker 1: to a question or challenge their power.
Speaker 2: Because however, you I mean, the highest ranked presidents by
Speaker 2: any standard, always or Lincoln, F. D. R. Wilson, Teddy
Speaker 2: Roosevelt wars exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's what Trump just was running on, no more
Speaker 1: senseless wars and then like, uh, let's go bomb Iran
Speaker 1: for no reason. And you know, historically, if you if you,
Speaker 1: if you think about the traveling of of the I
Speaker 1: call it them gospel. You can call it the Ariahs
Speaker 1: if you will, if you want to stay away from
Speaker 1: that other word. But you know that where the word
Speaker 1: Iran actually comes from is that the Ariah, which means
Speaker 1: the noble from you know, I mean they were in Persia,
Speaker 1: they were in all these places that seem to get
Speaker 1: targeted an awful lot by Israel. You know, like these
Speaker 1: these people, like we had a history there. Our blood
Speaker 1: is probably still in these people, but yet we forget
Speaker 1: about that and we go bomb and kill everybody.
Speaker 2: Well it's no, I don't think it's any mistake that
Speaker 2: I think you mentioned Libya was one, but I think
Speaker 2: they they've now, you know, conformed after a KNOPI was killed.
Speaker 2: But well you could look at the people were targeting
Speaker 2: the seven countries they were going to attack that General
Speaker 2: Wesley Clark talked about back in the day. Yeah, these
Speaker 2: are all These are people that did the countries that
Speaker 2: did not have a Rothschild style central bank, and Iran
Speaker 2: I don't, although somebody's told me they do now I
Speaker 2: don't know. My impression was they still don't. Uh, North
Speaker 2: Korea does it, I don't think, and Syria doesn't. I think,
Speaker 2: which tend to be these are the enemies that we
Speaker 2: talk about why we have to go to orients. They
Speaker 2: just happened to be the only countries that don't have
Speaker 2: this central bank that's so precious. I mean, that's quite
Speaker 2: a coincidence.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, even look like with the Ukraine in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen that I am flone that completely devastated their country.
Speaker 1: All the terms on there, like pensions were cut in half,
Speaker 1: electric bills are skyrocket and eighty percent like they did
Speaker 1: everything they could to really cripple the you know, the
Speaker 1: financial life of human beings there. And of course they
Speaker 1: would all be voting for what Putin had to offer,
Speaker 1: so it's almost like they pushed them to that. Apparently
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the people wanted to you know, unify
Speaker 1: with with with Russia, and then we had all this crap.
Speaker 1: It was like, right after this stuff with Georgia happened,
Speaker 1: they throw it, you know, you know, you got you
Speaker 1: got your what's her name? Victoria Newland and the EU
Speaker 1: and all this other trap and then NATO and it's
Speaker 1: once again, hey, look at it's NATO. It's like, and
Speaker 1: here it is. We're still dragging that out too. But
Speaker 1: nobody's talked about that in a while, have they, Because
Speaker 1: we're still still dicking around with Roan and and I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's still For like a week we talked
Speaker 1: about India shutting off the water in to Pakistan and
Speaker 1: then we don't even know what that will happen there
Speaker 1: at least. I know.
Speaker 2: That's the most amazing thing that I talk about all
Speaker 2: the time. The stories are rad tat tat they come,
Speaker 2: except the people get talking about World War three, and again,
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't come back to bite me, but
Speaker 2: I about worried. We're about World War three for whatever
Speaker 2: reason they've been talking. We've been on the how many
Speaker 2: times I've been on shows in the last five six
Speaker 2: years and well we're close, and Alex shows how many
Speaker 2: time we're close for three than we've ever been.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone, Mike q K he said that Putin
Speaker 1: had or somebody who had launched uh, you know, warheads,
Speaker 1: they warheads towards America.
Speaker 2: He had problems in.
Speaker 1: That, and he still has a credible like a position
Speaker 1: like this is this is this guy.
Speaker 2: This is in the the all media is full of
Speaker 2: these people who they're constantly I don't make any predictions
Speaker 2: because I don't know what's going on. I'm not these
Speaker 2: these these meetings at all obviously, and uh but you know,
Speaker 2: and they're always you're always wrong. And then they brag
Speaker 2: about Alex John's famously as he talks about how he
Speaker 2: was right and he's been wrong. So much is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But I think Bill Cooper was more right than Alex Jones.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the times when Alex
Speaker 1: Jones was right is because he took Bill Cooper's stuff
Speaker 1: after he died.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's you know, it's it's so it's
Speaker 2: you know, I don't make predictions, and but I think
Speaker 2: what's what should be looked at is that these and
Speaker 2: I I go back and look at my old substaxism
Speaker 2: and writing on it for so long, and I just
Speaker 2: and I comment on it and there about how these
Speaker 2: stories are. They just they come and they go and
Speaker 2: they're never resolved. They're in the news for a week
Speaker 2: or so maybe at that, and that's it. Look look
Speaker 2: at the last year or the terrible Helene or whatever
Speaker 2: hurricane in North Carolina, all those terrible stories that the
Speaker 2: crimes that were committed by FEMA and local authorities all forgotten.
Speaker 2: And now apparently you see if something happening like that
Speaker 2: in Texas and now Pallenteer is supposedly being to that
Speaker 2: where they're playing.
Speaker 1: In Sana what is San Angeles or something? That San Angelo,
Speaker 1: whatever it's called, is that you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and the flood and it's killed a bunch
Speaker 2: of people, and somebody is accusing somebody with pallenteer of
Speaker 2: of investing in a rain seating clouds or something right
Speaker 2: before it happens. I know. But but but then you
Speaker 2: look at and I wor's FEMA is FEMA there? Because again,
Speaker 2: FEMA is.
Speaker 1: When when continuity of government anyway, they're not really meant
Speaker 1: there to help people like their their their job description
Speaker 1: is continuity of government during crisis. So make sure that
Speaker 1: the central government maintains control.
Speaker 2: Over that would be that would be the very first
Speaker 2: agency I was cut. You know, Jimmy Carter created the
Speaker 2: worst thing Jimmy Carter did. Otherwise, his presidency wasn't as
Speaker 2: bad as most of them in comparison because they didn't
Speaker 2: do that many.
Speaker 1: Bad things to say about Israel even too.
Speaker 2: And I think, yes, he other than other than Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Kennedy was the last president to stand up to Israel,
Speaker 2: last one. But Carter attempted to half ass even had
Speaker 2: this in the Middle East. He wanted to, So I'll
Speaker 2: give that to him. But the FEMA was an awful thing.
Speaker 2: And you can see if if that was really the case, again,
Speaker 2: if Trump was serious, if people were serious. If what
Speaker 2: we're told they were doing, impeding rescue efforts and and
Speaker 2: stopping people from being rescued and letting letting people die,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden that we heard about then
Speaker 2: every one of those people, Yeah exactly, So I mean
Speaker 2: so again't but that this is why it goes back again.
Speaker 2: I hate to keep going back to Lincoln. Lincoln is
Speaker 2: your secular say, and we know the stuff that happened
Speaker 2: under him. That's the people you guys worship over anybody.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm talking about you guys, the average American.
Speaker 2: Yeah so so, and you're and you're worshiping Roosevelt. You
Speaker 2: still think FDR is great in American memory halls. You see,
Speaker 2: we discovered again I keep studying so many Peter Seakai's fans,
Speaker 2: all these great stuff about him that were you know,
Speaker 2: we found out that not only they're putting not just
Speaker 2: the Japanese, but he put Germans and Italians and concentration
Speaker 2: hips to They never got any reparations. But in this
Speaker 2: time we discovered they stole their properties and they stole
Speaker 2: over six billion dollars from German businesses.
Speaker 1: Alone, and only there's only one victim. Ever, yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought you knew that that's one victim.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true about it.
Speaker 1: Either later I can't stop hearing about it until they
Speaker 1: and you know, there might be a potential here that uh,
Speaker 1: if you look at the Zionists kabbalistic Lurien Kabbala like teachings,
Speaker 1: they describe a time when six million airesiser exit and
Speaker 1: who's to say. And I really think that this is
Speaker 1: why they wanted to rush a bunch of people into
Speaker 1: ones because I think they want to actually do their
Speaker 1: own burned offering and then blame someone else. And I
Speaker 1: think I don't think people who are living in Israel
Speaker 1: are safer because they live in Israel, is my point.
Speaker 1: And I think they'll let either the dome will fail
Speaker 1: or it'll be an internal thing like kind of like
Speaker 1: October seventh may have been with the idea of killing people,
Speaker 1: and then they are going to just go full blown
Speaker 1: out of control because they're going to you know, re
Speaker 1: rekindle the sympathy of the of the world and nobody's
Speaker 1: going to be everybody's going to be afraid to question them,
Speaker 1: and they're going to do horrific things. And one of
Speaker 1: those things it might even be oh, look, the Iranians
Speaker 1: took out Gaza because that now it's not them. But
Speaker 1: in reality we don't know who really did what. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's a there's an opportunity, and
Speaker 1: these people are the most opportunistic people on the planet
Speaker 1: to do something and completely blame everybody else and just
Speaker 1: invert all reality at the same time.
Speaker 2: Well, but what I wrote, you know about atrocities recently
Speaker 2: and substack and I yet I got you know, I
Speaker 2: broke the record for my record anyhow, getting getting views
Speaker 2: and everything comments.
Speaker 1: And wait, so that one. Let me see, I think
Speaker 1: I saw that. Let me see if it's one I'm
Speaker 1: thinking you're talking about. Let me see if I can.
Speaker 2: It was two substacks, and not just the latest one,
Speaker 2: but not the.
Speaker 1: One about the explosion of Jewish fatigue syndrome. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I actually read the one that was Jew's
Speaker 1: Gone Wild. I actually read that to my uh, to
Speaker 1: my group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are you know again, I try to
Speaker 2: be funny with it. I try to find humor in
Speaker 2: it because I think you have to, and that's the
Speaker 2: only way I can look at things. And people are
Speaker 2: receptive to it because again they understand Again, it's all
Speaker 2: these questions, like I say, you know, people say I
Speaker 2: don't specifically, I'm not concerned about any specific issue when
Speaker 2: I look at something. The reason behind the reason you
Speaker 2: and I or anybody we're talking about the Jews or
Speaker 2: anything is in the power is because of the disproportionate
Speaker 2: power thing. They're two percent of the population. They have
Speaker 2: the most wildly disproportionate power anybody's ever seen. And again
Speaker 2: it's a tiny fraction in them to do. But that's
Speaker 2: the crux of the issue. Explain that, Make that make sense.
Speaker 2: Make it make sense to me how only a Jew
Speaker 2: can be the head of a motion picture company or
Speaker 2: television network.
Speaker 1: If they didn't coompany our lives, Like if they weren't
Speaker 1: involved in with the horrible like critical race theory and
Speaker 1: all this other genders politics that are being pushed on
Speaker 1: in children's throats, if they weren't behind the injection, uh
Speaker 1: you know, regimen for children that poisons your children, If
Speaker 1: they weren't behind all this stuff that was affecting you
Speaker 1: or making you pour through their financial system of any
Speaker 1: of this other stuff. If if that wasn't affecting you,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't nobody would even think about them, but because
Speaker 1: we're not the ones affecting them on their daily life,
Speaker 1: but they are affecting us.
Speaker 2: It's the positions of prominence, so we don't we know.
Speaker 2: For instance, if you go to any carpet shop or
Speaker 2: audience have have have had a stranglehold on carpet business
Speaker 2: for a long time, okay, but nobody cares because it's
Speaker 2: not If you go to any seven eleven or any
Speaker 2: convenience store, you're usually going to have an Indian or
Speaker 2: a Palestin Indian working behind the counter more often than that.
Speaker 2: Who on you know, the Simpsons comes to mind for that,
Speaker 2: but ageah, these these are not prestigious jobs.
Speaker 1: So what nobody cares on to is, you know, those
Speaker 1: types of foreigners they get sometimes grants and different types
Speaker 1: of loans to start businesses here, and they also pay
Speaker 1: a lot of them also paying gold for their stuff
Speaker 1: too from their other countries, so that probably helps. You know,
Speaker 1: the people that have you know, the gas stations and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, they typically paid some different type of currency,
Speaker 1: so you know, they're their favorite. But a lot of
Speaker 1: it to bring foreigners in, there's there's incentives, so that
Speaker 1: kind of you know, hell with the Americans let these
Speaker 1: other people run stuff.
Speaker 2: And again that's where we talk about populism, and populism
Speaker 2: is power to the people, but it's power to the
Speaker 2: people under a nationalistic you know, cyber nation. And so
Speaker 2: we talked about it so again that any there's that
Speaker 2: resonates with everybody when you say, okay, they're putting the
Speaker 2: legal immigrants up in five star hotels or they're getting
Speaker 2: a credit card, because you're not getting anything.
Speaker 1: And it's not because you jealous. It is because it's
Speaker 1: just completely wrong.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's ridiculously obviously the we're.
Speaker 1: Paid for it, but we don't have anything for our
Speaker 1: own families, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's so when you have seventy percent of people
Speaker 2: living paycheck to paycheck, and all the statistics are out there,
Speaker 2: so that it resonates with the pop If you had
Speaker 2: a genuine populace and Trump was throwing, Trump and Sanders
Speaker 2: were both throwing, and enough populism out there to attract people.
Speaker 2: But if you had a Huey Long or real deal
Speaker 2: out there talking genuine populism and wasn't controlled but unfortunately
Speaker 2: probably would be controlled, he wouldn't have a platform. But uh,
Speaker 2: then it would be unbeatable because there's there's no answers.
Speaker 2: Just like you saw Ted.
Speaker 1: Getting destroyed by by the by the banks. That's that's
Speaker 1: their main They're made concern because it goes he goes family, tribe, nation,
Speaker 1: and that's why they always attack the family because that
Speaker 1: way you don't even comprehend the bonding and and the
Speaker 1: loyalties that would be necessary to get to the second
Speaker 1: and third steps to tribe in the nation. And just
Speaker 1: think about it this way. If we were, if we were,
Speaker 1: if we were being incentivized with four thousand dollars credit card,
Speaker 1: you know, bank cards to go repopulate or or to
Speaker 1: to you know, immigrate to Russia, wouldn't you think, man,
Speaker 1: Russia really wants to destroy their nation, not because we're bad,
Speaker 1: but because they want to replace their people, right exactly right,
Speaker 1: They want to any demographics. So why would they think
Speaker 1: that that's what's happening here?
Speaker 2: And it's so obvious it's only the white nations. Nobody's
Speaker 2: demanding that China become more diverse, or Japan or or
Speaker 2: or or you know, career of Saudi Arabia, India, it's
Speaker 2: always it's it's basically the the the white, the formerly
Speaker 2: white countries, they're the ones that have to become less white,
Speaker 2: no other countries, and they're the ones that have to
Speaker 2: accept multiculturalism and diversity. And you know, if they can
Speaker 2: make that work, I'd like to see, but I don't
Speaker 2: see any evidencing. And you certainly can't make it work
Speaker 2: the way we're doing it here. When you're importing an
Speaker 2: underclass like we've done with Hispanics, and we're making it
Speaker 2: possible for them to live a generation or two without
Speaker 2: learning language. You can't have a country where you're not
Speaker 2: speaking the same language. They're doing that on purpose because
Speaker 2: they know it just creates more problems, and that's what
Speaker 2: they want. They want to order out of chaos.
Speaker 1: And what do you typically gravitate? Let's even talk about school,
Speaker 1: Like you typically gravitate towards people who have like ideas
Speaker 1: and opinions when you go sit at the lunch table
Speaker 1: right in school. So people who have a similar cultural
Speaker 1: background are typically going to gravitate towards one another. So
Speaker 1: if you put them together, they're still going to separate,
Speaker 1: right and in any time that they interact, there's usually
Speaker 1: a problem. There's usually a disparity there and they know that,
Speaker 1: and they want that, you know, but in this weekends
Speaker 1: because now you're distracted with that problem, not even seeing
Speaker 1: what the garnment is doing exactly. You have more immediate
Speaker 1: issues right in front of you. You're being And I
Speaker 1: would I would love to.
Speaker 2: I would love to have everybody join hands, all the
Speaker 2: different races and everything and realize who the common enemy
Speaker 2: is and look at the elite. But the problem is
Speaker 2: we are distracted by that, and I get distracted by
Speaker 2: it myself. But if we could all get together and say, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, seventy percent of all people are living paycheck
Speaker 2: to paycheck and don't have five hundred dollars in the
Speaker 2: bank or whatever it is, you can't have a first
Speaker 2: run country. And that I talk about the bottom fifty
Speaker 2: percent of Americans, and that's growing all the time with
Speaker 2: every wave of you know, poor migrants that come in
Speaker 2: at the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have whole lot in common with the Haitian
Speaker 1: who's carrying it duck away from the park.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, you know, exactly you have cut But so
Speaker 2: it's but so you have less than one percent of
Speaker 2: the collective wealth all together at that bottom, and so
Speaker 2: they're you know they're being exploited as well, but it's
Speaker 2: it's just senseless. And you know, the idea that every
Speaker 2: everything is happening, none of it makes sense. And that's
Speaker 2: why I get it was right for somebody like Trump,
Speaker 2: who said a lot of truth. He said some revolutionary things,
Speaker 2: especially in the twenty sixteen campaign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I remember hear you say, as if
Speaker 1: his rhetoric matches up his actions match up with his rhetoric,
Speaker 1: could be great. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Right, he would be And again, unfortunately you can see
Speaker 2: even now it's just he's still all over the place
Speaker 2: and and it's but nothing. We haven't even got term
Speaker 2: limits out of this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think quite frankly when I heard you
Speaker 1: say that, because you know, you know, you know frank right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think you were saying, like, yeah, let's let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. But you know, if his rhetoric meets
Speaker 1: his h or his actions meet his rhetoric, then you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully that he's like you you were, hopefully you wanted
Speaker 1: to see that happen. And I remember you saying that,
Speaker 1: and then I thought it was pretty funny because then
Speaker 1: you know, we had this red flag on steroids happen
Speaker 1: underneath him. Take the guns first, due processed second, puts
Speaker 1: his arms around him like this like this is all
Speaker 1: very bad stuff. The First Amendment trap with the with
Speaker 1: the colleges, college campuses, which are all liberalized anyways.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, And so it's it's and that's the problem
Speaker 2: is that you know, obviously he's that's why I call
Speaker 2: it the Trumpet sign project and the fact that but
Speaker 2: I understand why people still cling to him because he's
Speaker 2: he's it's like you're you're you're in the ocean and
Speaker 2: you're sinking, and he's the only like that's the only life.
Speaker 2: Raft is being thrown to you and has holes in it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna not gonna work, but that's the
Speaker 2: only one you have. You don't have anybody.
Speaker 1: And that's what we have life the USS Liberty, wife
Speaker 1: I have on the Liberty.
Speaker 2: But so and that's that's that's the problem. You have
Speaker 2: to you have to that's the only alternative. And so
Speaker 2: you have things like Elon Musk. Now maybe we'll get
Speaker 2: that'll be the next sig up the American Party. And
Speaker 2: and you know, it's the first person that showed interest
Speaker 2: in Elon Musk new party was Mark Cuban, another another
Speaker 2: globalist clown exactly. This guy's an alternative again, So I
Speaker 2: don't know how stupid they think. What about like.
Speaker 1: He's all of a sudden changing his entire like view
Speaker 1: of things and like sarrying to make sense for once.
Speaker 1: And it's like, but I lessly, you know from his
Speaker 1: track record he's a liar.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and I says that you can't do it
Speaker 2: to any of these guys. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know what to think, but it's very disillusioning.
Speaker 1: With a huge Hillary Clinton supporter. Yeah, he's such a
Speaker 1: market Yeah, he's such an anti American marketist.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The I the idea that this guy would be
Speaker 2: part of some kind of third party movement. But so
Speaker 2: I don't know where it'll go from there. But it's
Speaker 2: it's we're living in. At least it's something where I
Speaker 2: never run out of stuff to write about and talk
Speaker 2: about because it's it's it's something all the time. But
Speaker 2: I just and I don't know how people that's true.
Speaker 2: Saxon rangers, right, he is a Jew.
Speaker 1: He's not Cuban, correct, so he's not Cuban boy. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: All right. So well, I mean I will if you
Speaker 1: if you got something to do, I will go ahead
Speaker 1: and show your your it's on the way out the door.
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate your time. We should do this
Speaker 1: more often. This is great, tough for me. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Any time I'm I you know, I'm happy, and anybody
Speaker 2: wants to talk to me, I'm happy to talk to them.
Speaker 1: And you know, people, books are great. I appreciate them
Speaker 1: a lot. It gives me a lot of stuff to
Speaker 1: look at and then look further. And uh, it's been
Speaker 1: it's been a good journey. It's you know, reading it
Speaker 1: with the habit of doing it every day for as
Speaker 1: many years as I'm doing that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing that. I appreciate you share with
Speaker 2: your audience and hopefully they're they're interested in too. I'm
Speaker 2: writing a book presently. My book i'm writing about is sports,
Speaker 2: a book on sports, believe it or not, and uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be it's gonna be my most controversial
Speaker 2: book because I'm I'm writing it about the racial dynamic.
Speaker 2: And this is something that I'm gonna be completely alone.
Speaker 2: There's nobody out there that's saying what I'm saying in
Speaker 2: this book. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tear
Speaker 2: the cloak off of the black athletic superiority and all
Speaker 2: that nonsense, because it's all wise.
Speaker 1: I got them. What about the legitimacy of sports? Uh
Speaker 1: gaining outcome?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh yeah, I thought they were. They were rigged
Speaker 2: for a long time. And uh, Brian too, he beat
Speaker 2: me to it. He wrote the fixes in. I had
Speaker 2: him on my podcast a while back. But you beat
Speaker 2: me to it. But but this is going to be
Speaker 2: mostly about the race on that because if people will
Speaker 2: see and you know, I I I source everything. I
Speaker 2: don't work in theories. But the number is just it's
Speaker 2: it's it's astounding. Just the tagline is going to be
Speaker 2: white men can jump, and you're you're not going to
Speaker 2: believe what the numbers show. It's one hundred. It's just
Speaker 2: like anything else you've been told of lies and but
Speaker 2: the fact that people could continue to accept it, and
Speaker 2: it just shows we're lied to about everything, even something
Speaker 2: like sports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, I don't know if I should
Speaker 1: put this on the screen. It evidence, Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: that might be something about the protocol. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that.
Speaker 2: He's right, that's true.
Speaker 1: So so you're saying, there's just as qualified or eve
Speaker 1: and more that are overlooked because they're they're putting it.
Speaker 2: They're they're every there. There's they're everywhere. If somebody would
Speaker 2: give me an NFL team, especially, who is.
Speaker 1: The black hockey player who murdered somebody with a skate.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. That's that's the other end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. He did, he got off with it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's it's the double standard is everywhere, and it's
Speaker 2: but again, people believe it because they've been indoctrinated to
Speaker 2: think that they are that black. And and really I'm
Speaker 2: taking the non racist position. The racist position is to
Speaker 2: generalize in stereotype that because basically it's a short step
Speaker 2: from saying blacks by virtue of being black or half black,
Speaker 2: as a lot of them are half black by virtue
Speaker 2: of having at least a black parent, Uh, they're superior athletes.
Speaker 2: It's a short step from saying, by virtue of having
Speaker 2: a black parent, they're they're inferior intellectually. It's the exact
Speaker 2: same thing you can say. It's the same kind of
Speaker 2: stereotype and they should realize that, but they don't. But
Speaker 2: so it's just gonna again. It's gonna be I probably
Speaker 2: won't be able to get a publisherle to see. It
Speaker 2: won't be easy, but I doubt ESPN or anybody because
Speaker 2: again it's there's no defense against it. My numbers are
Speaker 2: rock solid. They can't and I have it across the
Speaker 2: board and it's irrefutable. It's it's science if you will,
Speaker 2: but we'll see. But it's I'm having fun writing it
Speaker 2: because I've been wanting to write this for a long
Speaker 2: time and I've been a sports out all my life.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, because I do think they're rigged,
Speaker 2: and I've likened it to a heroin addiction to what
Speaker 2: you know, I can't kick it, you know, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, especially like I just the question knowledge or
Speaker 1: knowing things. It's if everything else is in your life,
Speaker 1: if you feel a little suspicious about something you've been told,
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's like you get to be pretended,
Speaker 1: like you're like you're a Sherlock Holmes, like you get
Speaker 1: to investigate and find out on your own. If you
Speaker 1: even believe after what you did able to discover it,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you confirm things that often you don't though
Speaker 1: often you find a whole other story that you never
Speaker 1: knew about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gratifying. And that's why doing something like this,
Speaker 2: it's because it's it's I'm being you know, empowered, because
Speaker 2: I'm paying Wow, this really is worse than I thought.
Speaker 2: Even so, it's it's it's great doing that because you
Speaker 2: do discover something. It's great to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: You're inspiring me to write my second one. Now. I
Speaker 1: pulling out last November November before that, so about it's
Speaker 1: about time for a new one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, absolutely, yeah, all right, So.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much again. I will thank you for
Speaker 1: your your sites and thank you for your time, and
Speaker 1: hopefully we can do the skin sometime.
Speaker 2: Thanks any time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, take care, thank you, and we'll show you
Speaker 1: guys here in just a second. Is let's see right
Speaker 1: here we have that's the wrong one. Sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: know why that happened. Oh no, it is. This is
Speaker 1: the eye Protest by Donald Jeffries. This is in the
Speaker 1: Donald Jeffries dot substack dot com. This link is in
Speaker 1: the description of the videos, and if you go to
Speaker 1: his Twitter, or if you want to call it X,
Speaker 1: you can do that too. Let's go to remove this
Speaker 1: one real quick, and I'll just show you the way
Speaker 1: I normally show things by shrinking this down two scene
Speaker 1: to all right, So this is the eye protest substack,
Speaker 1: shadowed Legacy of the funding Fathers, Consent independence and fireworks explosion,
Speaker 1: the explosion of Jewish fatigue syndrome. He has a good
Speaker 1: old Shapiro here, Shapiro Stein, and I think she's a
Speaker 1: dopey puppet myself, but it's it's whatever. I should be
Speaker 1: up there. I'm scared. So then there's this Twitter here,
Speaker 1: Donald Don Jeffries, so it's x dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: Don Jeffries. And from there you can also find the
Speaker 1: dot media and the substack there, but you should give
Speaker 1: that a follow. And last one here, this is his
Speaker 1: website and you'll find this podcast right there. And then
Speaker 1: he has his books all the other stuff here in
Speaker 1: his books. He clicked in that and takes you to
Speaker 1: his Amazon page. I'm reading this one currently, and dude,
Speaker 1: come on, I don't know why that is that, but
Speaker 1: I took advantage of it and that's I got to
Speaker 1: reading on it super super quick, piped the Bimbo in Red.
Speaker 1: This is one that I haven't gotten to yet. But
Speaker 1: this is about JFK. And he actually mentions in his
Speaker 1: book The American Memory Hole and his section about GfK,
Speaker 1: he does actually bring up Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper,
Speaker 1: which I thought was cool and because I because I
Speaker 1: had just finished reading that one and I'm asking the
Speaker 1: truth he's tuk with the COVID thing. It's five of
Speaker 1: the richest. The Unreals is actually a a fictional book
Speaker 1: that he wrote. It's kind of interesting, kind of cool stuff,
Speaker 1: and there should be more down here here. It is
Speaker 1: so the Hidden History here it was the first book
Speaker 1: of his that I read, and then it was Crimes
Speaker 1: and cover Ups in American Politics, and now he in
Speaker 1: now an American Memory Hole. I think would be the
Speaker 1: more recent. But this is kind of like a series,
Speaker 1: these three. So Hidden History would be the first in
Speaker 1: the series, but this one's kind of like a prequel
Speaker 1: to that one, even though it came out after the
Speaker 1: fact that this one kind of fills in all throughout
Speaker 1: from these two, like the stories that were in addition
Speaker 1: throughout that same timeline here, you know, basically bulliocracy, and
Speaker 1: then you see all these right, okay, good stuff. And then,
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, I appreciate everybody for showing up.
Speaker 1: Let's try to let's try to kick this, uh the
Speaker 1: subscribe recount over here on Rumble, I mean Rumble, fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: Rumble and YouTube. Let's kick it up a not, shall we?
Speaker 1: And if you click more on this screen, that'll drop down.
Speaker 1: You'll see all the links here, the substack and the
Speaker 1: other stuff, the substacks here. But in the description, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: in the chat you should find the other links that
Speaker 1: I dropped in there. They should be in there. If
Speaker 1: you're on YouTube, if you're on Rumble, it's it's in
Speaker 1: the description. And if you're right there, you'll see see's
Speaker 1: down Jeffries dot Media substack at Donald D. Jeffries and
Speaker 1: then x dot com Don Jeffries, and the D and
Speaker 1: the J are capitalized, but you can see those right there.
Speaker 1: Behind beneath that, you can see my website. And I
Speaker 1: just want to draw your attention to this because I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I'm gonna have time to do this
Speaker 1: again later, because I have to do a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff before I leave. But on my website there's something
Speaker 1: new I need to share with you. But this one
Speaker 1: stop shop is a keep on you can use for
Speaker 1: or ten percent off. I will be gone for the
Speaker 1: next eighteen days starting Tuesday morning Tuesday night, so if
Speaker 1: you place an order between now and then, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get back to it until the
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, So just keep that in mind you can,
Speaker 1: or you can just wait in place it afterward. We
Speaker 1: will return on twenty ninth. And beneath that it says
Speaker 1: below is a clickable pick to the worldwide event. Reminder
Speaker 1: that codd Ballbusterers for fifty percent off the membership for
Speaker 1: Doctor Glydden, but the event itself is free. Doctor Lynden
Speaker 1: does this like about once a year, and Wednesday, July
Speaker 1: ninth at six pm Pacific, so it's gonna be from
Speaker 1: six to seven, so it's an hour long or nine
Speaker 1: to ten Eastern. And you just click this picture right
Speaker 1: here that I just added. I changed the triblue made
Speaker 1: it look a little nicer. You had Doctor Monzo stuff here.
Speaker 1: Code BB five for all the Azure Well the whole Food,
Speaker 1: vitamin selflements and nutrients like the ninety essentials. You can
Speaker 1: get that way too. So this one here goes to
Speaker 1: the same site and then there's a code ball of
Speaker 1: busters as this one does. So if you click this
Speaker 1: you'll see that. Oh cool, he made it playable. But
Speaker 1: he's got a little Oh. I guess it's just being
Speaker 1: set up for it. I guess that's what that is now.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's for. When he just has the
Speaker 1: thing set up so that when it does start, it'll
Speaker 1: be there. And there's his website. And I actually added
Speaker 1: this video to my Instagram and to my TikTok and
Speaker 1: so there's like two minutes for these six seconds, he
Speaker 1: kind of gives you a little insight there. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think that's it. That's all we got. Hey Bushmasters? Here
Speaker 1: is he? There? He is? That's the bush Master. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a while fact Ranger or uh Voodoo Ranger, depending
Speaker 1: on where you're at. Sonya, Hello, Alex, what's that buddy?
Speaker 1: New Edge Designs? That looks like a new name I
Speaker 1: saw Raymond earlier and Karen Karen and then on the
Speaker 1: screen here, I'll just throw it up there so you
Speaker 1: can see there's that wasn't the YouTube I don't know
Speaker 1: if they leave it there or not, but that wasn't
Speaker 1: the YouTube chat, and so was that one, which for
Speaker 1: some reason they changed it to that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is, but that was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: Don the Don Jefferies. I'm sorry. The the Don yeah,
Speaker 1: Donald Jeffries, not media was but for some reason that
Speaker 1: popped up when I copied and pasted it, which is strange.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. See it. Support the sh know
Speaker 1: if you can. You can't, that's cool too. You can
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