Speaker 1: It's NIC's eyes, Dan rayas Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Hi, folks, I don't do it a lot, but I'm
Speaker 2: doing it tonight. Light them up.
Speaker 3: Six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. What do
Speaker 3: you want to see in the debate? September tenth. That's
Speaker 3: the big news today that the former president Donald Trump
Speaker 3: will be debating the vice president Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: It's going to take place in Philadelphia. It will be
Speaker 2: on NBC.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, ABC, Sorry, David, you're uh ABC at nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: And so far, what we know here are the rules,
Speaker 3: and the Trump campaign has agreed to these, agreed to
Speaker 3: the rules that we saw in the previous debate with Biden.
Speaker 3: Mike's will only be opened when a candidate is addressing
Speaker 3: a question post to them, So it's not going to
Speaker 3: be open Mike's the whole time, which I think is
Speaker 3: boring quite frankly. Furthermore, there'll be no studio audience at
Speaker 3: least that's the way it was. You got to have
Speaker 3: a studio audience. You got to have some energy in
Speaker 3: the room. That's what I think. You got to have
Speaker 3: some energy in the room. Now, I think this is
Speaker 3: pretty interesting. Should a candidate be able to confer with
Speaker 3: campaign staffers during commercial breaks.
Speaker 2: I'm not so. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, in football sports analogy, you have huddles, you
Speaker 3: have timeouts. Should a consultant during your commercial break go
Speaker 3: over to you former President Trump or Vice President Harris
Speaker 3: and make a comment, help them out with something, give
Speaker 3: them some information.
Speaker 2: Should they be able to do that? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I would say no to that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it really matters, because they would
Speaker 3: just be talking to them about a question that they've
Speaker 3: already screwed up or handled. So I may be a
Speaker 3: too little, too late. The problem with keeping the mics
Speaker 3: open the whole time is that our politicians have become children,
Speaker 3: and Trump is the worst at it now. His people
Speaker 3: do not want open mics. They want the president Trump speaks,
Speaker 3: the Vice President Harris speaks, and back and forth, and
Speaker 3: everybody's polite. That's not a debate, it's really not. That's
Speaker 3: not a debate. A debate is what. It's debating ideas.
Speaker 3: It's having passionate discussion about a topic, which means you
Speaker 3: should be able to talk over one another.
Speaker 2: And you know what.
Speaker 3: If it gets too out of hand, then the moderator
Speaker 3: has to step in, bring out a gong, bring out
Speaker 3: a buzzer, I don't know, and just tell people to
Speaker 3: shut up and let the other person finish. As simple
Speaker 3: as that. But a debate needs to be passionate. It
Speaker 3: needs to be an exchange of ideas. It needs to
Speaker 3: be volleys back and forth. Now like your turn to
Speaker 3: talk might turn to talk.
Speaker 2: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: But the problem is is that they're not mature enough
Speaker 3: to handle it, to have the decorum, and it's more
Speaker 3: entertaining to watch.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I.
Speaker 3: Think Harris Harris needs to keep it simple in this debate.
Speaker 3: I think Harris is gonna win, and I'm not endorsing her.
Speaker 3: I just think that the brat the young people are
Speaker 3: going to push her over the top. And there are
Speaker 3: some people that are just gonna say I can't vote
Speaker 3: for Trump because I.
Speaker 2: Think he's a despicable human being.
Speaker 3: I think there are even people that want to vote
Speaker 3: for their pocketbook that would rather go with Trump because
Speaker 3: they think he can do better with the economy. But
Speaker 3: like I said to Sam, look if they drop interest
Speaker 3: rates before for the election, doesn't matter who's president. I mean,
Speaker 3: it all depends on when they drop the interest rates
Speaker 3: and when the Fed wants to stimulate the economy and
Speaker 3: get it going again as opposed to slow it down.
Speaker 3: We've talked about that a million times six, one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty. What do you want to see in the debate?
Speaker 3: What rules do you want to see? Let's grab Wendy
Speaker 3: and Marlborough. Wendy, thank you for calling on night side.
Speaker 4: How are you good?
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm good? What's on your mind?
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think the debate is after
Speaker 5: the audience and people are talking over each other, because
Speaker 5: you're right, if it's just two people talking, it's going
Speaker 5: to be boring for me to sleep now, So you know,
Speaker 5: I think that it said who's to be that this is?
Speaker 5: Have the audience, and they said allow the people to
Speaker 5: talk over each other because it is a debate. You're right,
Speaker 5: So and.
Speaker 2: Wendy, I think that it.
Speaker 3: You want to see how the politicians will react. You
Speaker 3: want to see how they react under pressure. I mean mean,
Speaker 3: you know Trump could lose as cool I think listen.
Speaker 3: I think Kamala I disagree with Sam. I think if
Speaker 3: she gets going, when she gets pissed, you know, she
Speaker 3: can get rolling.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I think the difference between her and Hillary is is
Speaker 3: secretary of State. Clinton was very cautious, She smiled a lot,
Speaker 3: she wanted to be liked, She tried to be polite,
Speaker 3: take the gloves off. And I think Harris can take
Speaker 3: the gloves off against Trump.
Speaker 2: I do, and I think that, yeah, I work to
Speaker 2: her advantage.
Speaker 5: I think Harris is gonna make misery out of him.
Speaker 5: I really do.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: It is going to be musty TV. Thank you for
Speaker 3: the phone call, Wendy, and I appreciate it. Six one, seven, two, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty. How do you feel about it? Do you
Speaker 3: want to have open mics, bring out the gloves, let
Speaker 3: him go, exchange of ideas. I did just see something
Speaker 3: pop up on CNN where she is going to release
Speaker 3: an economic policy and that should be interesting to see
Speaker 3: because that isn't something that she has.
Speaker 2: Discussed a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't this, and Sam's my guy, but I don't
Speaker 3: know that because she doesn't do well exteporaneously, she doesn't
Speaker 3: speak with confidence on some issues. I don't think that
Speaker 3: that's going to make her a bad president. You know
Speaker 3: what you're getting with Trump? You know that's really what
Speaker 3: it comes down to, right, you know what you're getting.
Speaker 3: You're getting a guy who is just basically concerned about himself.
Speaker 3: That may help the economy. Again, he was fortunate the
Speaker 3: economy was going great when he was president. When Biden
Speaker 3: came in, inflation spiked, then it came back down. But
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I think if you're looking for
Speaker 3: tax breaks, Harris is the one that's putting that for worth.
Speaker 3: For four thousand dollars for a child per child in
Speaker 3: your family, that can make a difference with some families,
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. You know, when Trump was talking
Speaker 3: about tax breaks, it was for people making three hundred,
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars. It's not exactly helping out the
Speaker 3: middle class. You know who Donald Trump is, You know
Speaker 3: what he is. You know what it's going to be like.
Speaker 3: He tried to overthrow the government.
Speaker 2: For God's sakes.
Speaker 3: What you know what the four years will be like
Speaker 3: with Trumps president. You don't know what the four years
Speaker 3: under Harris would be like.
Speaker 2: You don't know. You don't.
Speaker 3: She could, it could if the economy's going great. She'll
Speaker 3: go down in history as a great president. It's always
Speaker 3: about the pocketbook and if they dropped the interest rates
Speaker 3: before the election, it could work for her. And you're
Speaker 3: off and running. And as I said, legacies and aid
Speaker 3: by occurrences, by tragedies, by controversies, by issues, how you
Speaker 3: handled something. Would we care about Abraham Lincoln if there
Speaker 3: was no Civil war and ending slavery? Would we care
Speaker 3: about John Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis? Would we
Speaker 3: care about George W. Bush with the way that he
Speaker 3: handled the attack on the towers in New York?
Speaker 2: She could have her moment. We don't know what she
Speaker 2: will do. We know what Trump will do.
Speaker 3: Calls coming up next on w b Z six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty. Uh, Dana and now you guys stick
Speaker 3: around what I know what you think? Next on Nightside,
Speaker 3: Gary Tangway for Dan ray Now.
Speaker 1: Back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World night
Speaker 1: Side Studios on WBZ.
Speaker 3: News Radio by Gary for Dan ray Tonight six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We get data in Wooster.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the Presidents of debate coming up on
Speaker 3: the tenth, which I cannot wait to see. I think
Speaker 3: it's going to be phenomenal television. Half of me wants
Speaker 3: just an absolute bleep show. You know, let's go all
Speaker 3: Jerry Springer, throwing chairs, just going bananas. And then the
Speaker 3: other half is can we be growing up about this?
Speaker 3: I'm struggling data in Worcester, Europe on WBC's Night Side.
Speaker 1: How are you good?
Speaker 7: How are you? Honestly? I just think that like Kamala
Speaker 7: and Trump, like you said, you know what you get
Speaker 7: when you get Trump right, But with Kamala, I really
Speaker 7: do believe that she can put him in his place.
Speaker 7: But she can do it eloquently. She doesn't need to
Speaker 7: bash anybody or belinna anybody. It's becoming a piston match
Speaker 7: and it's embarrassing. So now, of course there's rules and
Speaker 7: regulations because even though you know what you get with Trump,
Speaker 7: you kind of don't either. Well the end of the day,
Speaker 7: At the end of the day, everybody's making fun of
Speaker 7: each other and they're forgetting about the actual meeting of
Speaker 7: the whole debate process. You want to get to know
Speaker 7: your opponents, you want to make sure that like you're
Speaker 7: fine working with each other or without each other, But
Speaker 7: it's you have to actually why in a mic and
Speaker 7: not have an audience, and it's disgusting and quite frankly,
Speaker 7: it's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Dan, No, you're absolutely.
Speaker 7: I think Kamala should have a chance to put his
Speaker 7: ass at his place. Well, you just do it in
Speaker 7: a way that would probably people would look up to her,
Speaker 7: just simply because he's not bashing her or calling anybody
Speaker 7: any other stupid names. Is making it into something that
Speaker 7: it's not. It's pretty awful that we have to live
Speaker 7: in today's society living like this.
Speaker 8: Pet of it.
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. I could not
Speaker 2: agree with you more.
Speaker 7: Thank you for taking my bumfa. That's all I really
Speaker 7: want to say.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you call it. I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, thank you, Dan, I appreciate that. Okay, six one, seven, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty.
Speaker 3: She's right, and most of Americans feel that way, they
Speaker 3: really do. Can we be presidential again? Can we have
Speaker 3: some decorum? Can we have a debate and an exchange
Speaker 3: of ideas. Can we see how one candidate reacts to
Speaker 3: the other, how they handle the stress? Can they think
Speaker 3: on their feet? But it becomes the Jerry Springer show.
Speaker 3: And we all know Trump just makes stuff up. Me
Speaker 3: just makes it up. That's what he does. If Kamala
Speaker 3: spoke as confidently as Trump does. She should smell them.
Speaker 3: But she's not great on her feet. She's not. But again,
Speaker 3: I think we're voting for the unknown. You know what
Speaker 3: you're getting with Donald Trump. You don't know what you're
Speaker 3: getting with Vice President Harris. You don't and you can't
Speaker 3: base it. She's not Biden, Okay, she's not. You know
Speaker 3: how she feels about reproductive rights, that's obvious. You know
Speaker 3: what you're getting with that. She's come out. She's pro
Speaker 3: middle class. She wants to offer tax breaks to the
Speaker 3: middle class based on the amount of kids they have,
Speaker 3: four thousand dollars per child, which can make it. Listen,
Speaker 3: that can help out a household. So you understand that.
Speaker 3: But how does she.
Speaker 2: Work under pressure? How does she work.
Speaker 3: When she's sitting across the table from other leaders around
Speaker 3: the world. How will she handled that? We don't know,
Speaker 3: But we do know that history tells us that presidents
Speaker 3: in the past that have had that same question rise
Speaker 3: to the occasion. Trump just doesn't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3: He wants to be an isolationist. He wants to take
Speaker 3: his ball and go home.
Speaker 2: That's not going to work. Alan Saugus Heal you're up
Speaker 2: on WBC.
Speaker 9: Well, you think giving up our constitution for globalist is
Speaker 9: going to work?
Speaker 2: Explain? I don't understand.
Speaker 9: The globalists don't want us to have a US constitution.
Speaker 9: They don't want a constitutional government. You know the World
Speaker 9: Economic Forum places like that in NATO that doesn't pay there.
Speaker 9: Do you like NATO paying.
Speaker 6: Their fair share?
Speaker 9: Or we got to be suckers for NATO some more.
Speaker 3: Well, the fact is, if you belong to NATO, you
Speaker 3: have a chip, you have leverage. And because you're the
Speaker 3: big brother in NATO and people don't pay their share,
Speaker 3: that means they owe you, and that has worked for
Speaker 3: us in the past.
Speaker 2: That means they owe you.
Speaker 9: What's that NATO should have disbanded when the Soviet Union,
Speaker 9: when Russia broke up, That's what NATO should have disappeared.
Speaker 6: It was no longer necessary. But that's another story.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't know why you're worried now.
Speaker 3: I think it's necessary now when you look at what
Speaker 3: that nut job Putin's doing.
Speaker 9: Oh but it was only a minor incursion, and Biden
Speaker 9: let it go and then it blew up in his
Speaker 9: face and a million people died, and Biden denied the
Speaker 9: Minsk agreement. There could have had a treaty a couple
Speaker 9: of weeks into that, and Biden said, don't you dare
Speaker 9: because there Maggie's a warmonger making money off of it,
Speaker 9: making money off of that war and a million people died,
Speaker 9: they could have had a peace treaty.
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about that one, all right.
Speaker 9: But let me go back to the mute. Why do
Speaker 9: you want a Jerry It's kind of disgusting that you
Speaker 9: you joke a little that you want a Jerry Springer thing.
Speaker 9: People's lives here matter, and everyone's livelihood, and I want
Speaker 9: it to be muted because she's gonna play the woman victim.
Speaker 6: She just like you said earlier.
Speaker 10: She's going to bait them.
Speaker 9: And what do you need people interrupted each other for?
Speaker 9: Like I just talked over you a minute ago. We
Speaker 9: don't need that's that's each person's state stand and deliver,
Speaker 9: and you don't need someone going, oh.
Speaker 10: Let me fin as you didn't let me finn as you're.
Speaker 9: Talking your man speaking to me. I could see it
Speaker 9: play out so much. I'm so glad they're muting it.
Speaker 9: And I hope they'd muted with no need people talking
Speaker 9: over each other and that woman Dana that call want
Speaker 9: to put him in his place, and some of the derogatory,
Speaker 9: vulgar words she used about a contest. I couldn't believe
Speaker 9: that even went over the air of vulgar.
Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you this that the rules may change,
Speaker 3: and they may open up the mics. But as they
Speaker 3: stand right now, they're each going to have their turn
Speaker 3: and speak. But I like to see how people react
Speaker 3: under pressure. I think, quite frankly, it would work for
Speaker 3: Trump if the mics were open and he was the
Speaker 3: adult in the room, if he refrained from the ridiculous,
Speaker 3: childish remarks, if he didn't see things question whether she
Speaker 3: was actually African American or not. I mean, if he
Speaker 3: just if he played the If the mics were open
Speaker 3: and Trump played the adult.
Speaker 2: In the room, it would be a huge advantage for him.
Speaker 6: All he has to say is, hey, come on, do
Speaker 6: you get fries with that? Oh? Waitmen, you didn't work
Speaker 6: at McDonald's. Oh okay, a phone call, buddy.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Daryl and new Bruns or
Speaker 2: Daryl you're up on WBZ.
Speaker 10: Hey, Larry Bardner, how's it going.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great part?
Speaker 10: Now are you I'm actually listening and actually appreciating the
Speaker 10: conversation what you're having. Thank you, because uh, at the
Speaker 10: same time, what we're looking for is credibility, and you're
Speaker 10: talking about having an open mic. I am sure that
Speaker 10: most people would support that because that way and if
Speaker 10: you remember an old Tom Cruise movie with Jack Nichols,
Speaker 10: Jack Nicholson, Yes, a few good men, Yes, sir, and
Speaker 10: therefore it's a As a veteran, I served in Mogadishu
Speaker 10: with American service members as well as other people.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your service? Are you?
Speaker 10: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you? You're calling for New.
Speaker 10: Brunswick you I'm Canadian veteran, yes.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well well nonetheless you're our neighbor and thank you.
Speaker 10: For your service and we're on the same team, no doubt.
Speaker 10: But at the same time, if people can actually see
Speaker 10: how people react to what most people are wanting to
Speaker 10: see how they act under pressure and open Mike to
Speaker 10: see if you actually get what you think you're getting.
Speaker 2: Right, we need less scripted? Yes, that's yes, Darryl. You
Speaker 2: just said it.
Speaker 3: You want to see if you if you actually get
Speaker 3: what you think you're getting.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, And the kicker is is so I can
Speaker 10: say I'm biased for anything. I'm totally neutral because with
Speaker 10: me being Canadian, when we had a hurricane Andrew Go
Speaker 10: three years ago, my buddy and I flew down with
Speaker 10: our engineers to help rebuild school in Dade County and
Speaker 10: we didn't actually get our paperwork. We paid it own way.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, wow, very nice of you.
Speaker 10: So that's the support you guys have from Canadians.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we appreciated there on the Bronswick's a great place.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 10: You take care and hey make sure everybody's said right.
Speaker 2: Okay, kid, thank you for the phone call.
Speaker 3: Six seven thirty open phones between now and twelve midnight tonight,
Speaker 3: Gary Tagway and for Dan Ray. And this is WBC's
Speaker 3: Night Side coming up with the tenth. It was announced
Speaker 3: today the Presidents of debate will take place between Vice
Speaker 3: President Harris and former President Donald Trump. It'll be in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: ABC will have it, and the rules have been established.
Speaker 3: No audience, The mics will be closed when the other
Speaker 3: candidate is speaking, they cannot confer, they cannot get help
Speaker 3: when they're in a commercial break at any time. They'll
Speaker 3: just simply have a glass of water, no pad, and
Speaker 3: a pencil and that's it. That part is fine with me.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can let them have two glasses of water.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, that's if needed. But the more
Speaker 3: I think about it, if Donald Trump just shows that
Speaker 3: he's the adult in the room and Vice President Harris
Speaker 3: this is her composure, that might be the play for him,
Speaker 3: and he might get someone decided to go his way
Speaker 3: because they feel that he's better for the economy, or
Speaker 3: at least he has experience of being in the Oval office.
Speaker 3: Does that weigh into this at all with anybody? Of course,
Speaker 3: he did try to overthrow the government.
Speaker 2: But forget about it. Let's go to Steve. Steve's coming
Speaker 2: in from Merrimack in New Hampshire, coming in hot, Steve,
Speaker 2: You're next on WVZ. Hey Gary, I'm good.
Speaker 6: What's any money good? You know.
Speaker 11: I watched the Interruption.
Speaker 6: Debate on October twenty ninth, twenty twenty, and it was
Speaker 6: very difficult to watch. I think Chris Wallace, I don't
Speaker 6: think he would ever do a debate after that one.
Speaker 6: He was not too happy, as you may recall. I
Speaker 6: think that, you know, I know, you want to see
Speaker 6: more energy in the debate, but I really believe that,
Speaker 6: you know, you've got to have some decorum, and you know,
Speaker 6: people need to, you know, have some respect for one another.
Speaker 6: And right now, I don't think that Trump is going
Speaker 6: to do anything different than he did. Then I'd like
Speaker 6: to see them talk about the economy and issues that
Speaker 6: really matter to the American people and what they plan
Speaker 6: to do about it. Right now, I think that's the
Speaker 6: number one issue that people are concerned about, the inflation
Speaker 6: and the prices that have gone up in the last
Speaker 6: four years. You know, really, Harris is going to have
Speaker 6: to defend Biden's policies. I'm not sure if she can
Speaker 6: because they spend all that money in twenty one caused
Speaker 6: the inflation to go up. People that are on fixed
Speaker 6: incomes are hurting big time, and they don't seem to care.
Speaker 6: So I'm just going to say, I think we're going
Speaker 6: to have to see a debate where you know, it
Speaker 6: doesn't get into personalities and you know, name calling and
Speaker 6: the thing that Trump does. And you know, I have
Speaker 6: problems with both candidates actually, but Trump is he will
Speaker 6: probably make the country better if he were to win.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure he can win because I don't think
Speaker 6: he can keep his mind shut well, that's.
Speaker 2: Just the look.
Speaker 10: For me.
Speaker 3: If January sixth had not happened at the White House,
Speaker 3: if the president at the time, Donald Trump, had stepped
Speaker 3: in and said stop it, you know, I could sit
Speaker 3: here and go all right, you know, yeah, I could
Speaker 3: make a case for the guy. That's what really worries me,
Speaker 3: how that whole he could have stopped it, and how
Speaker 3: that went down and people lost their lives with that,
Speaker 3: and the vice president was being chased through the hallways
Speaker 3: of Congress, and I just.
Speaker 2: I just can't handle that. But you're right. You want
Speaker 2: to hear about the issues.
Speaker 3: You want to hear about, you know, jobs, you want
Speaker 3: to hear about lowering interest rates, you want to hear
Speaker 3: about I mean.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, as a year, as a parent, I sit
Speaker 3: here and I go to send a kid to college,
Speaker 3: people want ninety thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: It's erics, It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And then and then this is my problem with the
Speaker 3: Biden administration, that they go out and look, I've paid
Speaker 3: for my kids college. I'm fortunate and I can. But
Speaker 3: then they go out and they forgive loans. I'm like what,
Speaker 3: And I know it's the interest on the loans and
Speaker 3: so forth, and it's it's not as much as one
Speaker 3: would think.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. To me.
Speaker 3: You got to you got to go after the universities
Speaker 3: and you got to lower the price of college. And
Speaker 3: I know that sounds communist and it's socialists and so forth,
Speaker 3: but I don't need the government paying for other people's
Speaker 3: student education when I have to pay for mine.
Speaker 2: So I hear you, man, I get your frustration with that.
Speaker 6: You know, on the forgiveness issue. The one thing they
Speaker 6: never finish is who is going to pay for it.
Speaker 6: It's the American tax. Here we are people, and.
Speaker 2: I paid for that college.
Speaker 8: Yes, I know, what.
Speaker 6: If you didn't go to college, what if you already
Speaker 6: paid out your student loan? You know, why would you
Speaker 6: want to pay it for somebody else that you don't
Speaker 6: even know? And if you're going to do it, then
Speaker 6: you should be able to tell them what kind of
Speaker 6: curriculum they're going to take. And they don't. I mean,
Speaker 6: be a plumber, you know, be an electrician, you'll make
Speaker 6: a lot more money.
Speaker 8: Though.
Speaker 3: I got to tell Sive, I've had this discussion with people,
Speaker 3: and you are absolutely right.
Speaker 2: The trade schools are doing well.
Speaker 3: Students are saying, I'm not going to pay for four
Speaker 3: years of a university or a college and being debt
Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or three hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. But I'm interested in the trades, and I
Speaker 3: go become an electrician or a plumber, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's one year or two years, but I'm
Speaker 3: not in debt. And I go out and start a business,
Speaker 3: and I'm rocking and rolling because I know I can't
Speaker 3: do anything with a faucet and I certainly can't do
Speaker 3: anything with an outlet. So I call guys, I call people,
Speaker 3: and they come to my house. You're absolutely right, the
Speaker 3: trades or not. The trades are not promoted enough, There's
Speaker 3: no question.
Speaker 6: But my phoner makes over three hundred thousand a year
Speaker 6: and the only reason he doesn't make more than that
Speaker 6: is because he doesn't want to work weekends.
Speaker 2: There you go, buddy, you know, And that's what I mean.
Speaker 6: So all I can say is I think we're in
Speaker 6: a lot of trouble with no matter who wins, I
Speaker 6: have problems with both candidates, and I just don't think
Speaker 6: that you know, we're going to have the same acrimony,
Speaker 6: the same problems we've had no matter who wins. And
Speaker 6: I and I don't think that Kamala Harris is even
Speaker 6: remotely qualified to be president. You know, she is not
Speaker 6: a genuine person at all. And then you got Trump
Speaker 6: that just you know, he just can't keep his mard shut.
Speaker 6: If he just shut up, he'd probably win. If he
Speaker 6: had picked Nikki Haley instead of J. D. Vans, he
Speaker 6: would have been much better off.
Speaker 3: I think, Steve, I think you made a very good point.
Speaker 3: That's an and I thought he was going to pick her.
Speaker 3: I thought he I thought he was going to pick her.
Speaker 2: And you're right.
Speaker 6: He's very smart.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 6: And I've met her. I met her one time when
Speaker 6: she was running, and she's a very smart woman. She's
Speaker 6: no drama. She's got a nice husband. We don't want
Speaker 6: I want somebody younger, without drama. I'm tired of the drama.
Speaker 6: The pressell love it, but I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 6: I want to hear we're more worried about the personalities
Speaker 6: than we are about the future of the country.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's a reality It's a freaking reality show, Steve.
Speaker 2: I agree, with you one and.
Speaker 6: She's got her independent Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well look she's not. She does not have the qualifications
Speaker 3: to be president. She doesn't not at all, not even close,
Speaker 3: not even close. And she and Biden, he I don't
Speaker 3: even know. I don't think he knows what year he's
Speaker 3: living in. My age is age caught up with Joe.
Speaker 3: He should have been running sooner than he did.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to attack the guy for that,
Speaker 2: because it's going to happen.
Speaker 6: Well anyway, I just good, good topic. Good know, I
Speaker 6: like listening to and uh, you know, like I said,
Speaker 6: that's just the way I look at it. I'm everybody
Speaker 6: I talked to you they agree that we don't really
Speaker 6: like the candidates that are out there. Nobody gets excited.
Speaker 6: You know. I was at the Labor Day parade in Milford,
Speaker 6: New Hampshire, uh, yesterday, and nobody was getting all excited
Speaker 6: about those candidates that were walking on the parade. They
Speaker 6: were it wasn't they were there, but it was mostly
Speaker 6: the people in the parade that were cheering themselves on.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 3: No doubt, she's not qualified and the only qualification for
Speaker 3: him is that he was elected once.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at their resumes and you go,
Speaker 2: how are these how are these two people?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 2: But anyways, I.
Speaker 6: It's it's getting real close, what seventy something days to go.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think, I think that I
Speaker 3: think she's gonna win because I think they are going
Speaker 3: to be people. But there are people who are voting
Speaker 3: that have not voted in the past, and they're going
Speaker 3: to vote for her. All right, thank you, I appreciate
Speaker 3: the call. Let's go to Brian real quick. Brian, you're
Speaker 3: up on wbside.
Speaker 4: Hi, Yes, this is Brian from Franklin. Thanks for taking
Speaker 4: my call. I wanted to weigh in on like the
Speaker 4: upcoming election and why I think Donald Trump's is still
Speaker 4: the right choice for our country. I know that in
Speaker 4: Massachusetts Trump might not be the most popular figure, but
Speaker 4: I believe that he's a leader that we need now,
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to fixing the economy, standing up
Speaker 4: for American workers. And we had the strongest economy in
Speaker 4: modern history under him. Unemployment was a record low, and
Speaker 4: we were thriving and we were seeing benefits, you know,
Speaker 4: but under this administration, like we're dealing with rising and
Speaker 4: plation gas prices going up, supplying shade issues, and it
Speaker 4: feels like we're taking like a step back. I believe
Speaker 4: that Trump's got the experience and track record to get
Speaker 4: us back on board with that and like to help
Speaker 4: him out, like with some of the points that he's
Speaker 4: been doing. It's like where you know, and Trump was
Speaker 4: about being energy independent, you know, making United States, uh
Speaker 4: stand up against China on trade and bring jobs back
Speaker 4: to the United States, like with natural gas. And then
Speaker 4: like the foreign policy under Trump, there was no you know,
Speaker 4: serious attacks in Iraq. I kept the military strong. And
Speaker 4: then you know, I get that everyone thinks that Trump's
Speaker 4: style isn't you know, up to par with them, But
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, results matter. You know,
Speaker 4: Trump delivered results, and he benefited everyday Americans, not just
Speaker 4: the rich the elite.
Speaker 3: How do you think I'm curious on that. How do
Speaker 3: you think he benefited every day Americans?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, when we were having the lower prices
Speaker 4: in the grocery stores, that was definitely a benefit. Plus
Speaker 4: pay has been going up, you know under him, my
Speaker 4: four oh one k was was much higher than before.
Speaker 4: And now I mean and so yeah, I just feel
Speaker 4: like that, you know, every day things. We were hearing
Speaker 4: the drama on the TV, but like life was just,
Speaker 4: you know, much better back when Trump was running the country, and.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well we also had COVID which wasn't great
Speaker 3: by I understand what you're saying, Brian, Thank you for
Speaker 3: the phone call. I appreciate your viewpoint. We have to
Speaker 3: take a break. We're gonna get to Jeffrey in New York.
Speaker 3: Coming up next on WBZ, Gary Tangway for Dan Ray.
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Speaker 2: Listen, did Boston screw up? Could it have happened?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 3: And my friend Toroy Champaign great documentary with Mickey Hart
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Speaker 3: Right here on WBC, Jeffrey in New York is chiming
Speaker 3: in on what he wants to see in the presidential
Speaker 3: debate on the tenth.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jeffrey you're on.
Speaker 11: Hey, hey, Gary, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: I can hear you, buddy.
Speaker 8: I'm nice and clear because I got my I'm plugged
Speaker 8: into a charger at in Newburgh right now.
Speaker 2: You're all good, buddy, I got you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm hoping to see what happened in the first
Speaker 8: Democratic debate in twenty twenty. I'm hoping to seek Tamala
Speaker 8: unleash her clause and do to Donald Trump what she
Speaker 8: did to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Oh, right, right, right, rights, good point. Right, Oh, that's excellent,
Speaker 2: excellent point. And I remember when that happened. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought that up because I remember what she did.
Speaker 8: I talked, Yeah, go ahead, sorry, I talked to I
Speaker 8: talked to her team. I talked to her advisors and
Speaker 8: asked them what happened, and they said they rained her
Speaker 8: in because he started stuttering, and Joe did because she
Speaker 8: did what.
Speaker 11: She does best.
Speaker 8: She prosecuted and Joe started stuttering. And her advice has
Speaker 8: told her, you can't do that again, you know, because
Speaker 8: nobody's going to look favorably on you beating up on
Speaker 8: an old man who used to stutter, who all of
Speaker 8: a sudden is stuttering again.
Speaker 11: All right, and she's a prosecutor.
Speaker 6: And I was with.
Speaker 8: Bill Wells's team actually in twenty twenty, and you know.
Speaker 11: And I was just like, okay, you know.
Speaker 8: I voted one against Donald Trump and two for Kamala.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've never liked Joe.
Speaker 8: Fifty years of get along, go along, get along, you know,
Speaker 8: change with the wind, right, you know, it wasn't my
Speaker 8: hope that you know, that he'd be you know, become
Speaker 8: infirm or anything.
Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, I have to ask you something. You brought
Speaker 3: up a great point of how she went after him
Speaker 3: in the debate. She also did very well on the
Speaker 3: Today Morning Show where she had a strong She started
Speaker 3: very strong, and then they reined her in and I
Speaker 3: thought they rained her in because they made a deal.
Speaker 3: They said, look, you're going to be the vice president
Speaker 3: if Biden wins. And I thought that was kind of
Speaker 3: the deal because I thought initially I thought Kamala was
Speaker 3: a real threat.
Speaker 2: And then she made some mistakes.
Speaker 3: And I think she got on her heels because of
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. And I think she got on
Speaker 3: her heels because because.
Speaker 8: She was absolutely told, she's absolutely told by her team
Speaker 8: to back off of it, right.
Speaker 2: Which was a mistake for her.
Speaker 3: But maybe they've viewed Okay, well we'll get in being
Speaker 3: a vice president and look, she's got a chance to
Speaker 3: be president anyway.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I don't know how she's gonna I don't know how
Speaker 3: she's going to be as president. But she just needs
Speaker 3: to go at Trump, That's what I think, because she
Speaker 3: is a prosecutor and that's what she does best. I
Speaker 3: agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And his team is terrified of her.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's why they don't want to open mics.
Speaker 11: She was a damn good prosecutor.
Speaker 8: And you know when he starts babbling and under his
Speaker 8: breath the racist remox and he makes under his breath, right,
Speaker 8: and there's an open mic. Yeah, but uh, you know,
Speaker 8: and I've actually talked to a couple of her advisors recently,
Speaker 8: because Bill and I talked several times, uh after the
Speaker 8: first impeachment, Uh you know, and Bill was of the
Speaker 8: mind that he had committed treason with what he pulled
Speaker 8: with Ukraine.
Speaker 2: About Bill when you say Bill, Bill, well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: Uh who who also was a dynamite federal assistant attorney
Speaker 8: general who actually uh resigned because he couldn't work for
Speaker 8: ed Mease, who was a criminal. And uh that caused
Speaker 8: ed Meath to reach an agreement with Congress to step
Speaker 8: out of the office rather than be prosecuted. And you know,
Speaker 8: I talked to I talked to Bill shortly after January sixth,
Speaker 8: and I brought up the point that the president doesn't
Speaker 8: wear one hat. The president wears two hats. When the
Speaker 8: president's wears the oath of office, he's not only swearing
Speaker 8: the oath of office as a president, he's also swearing
Speaker 8: the oath of office as the commander in chief of
Speaker 8: all armed forces. Well, when the commander in chief gives
Speaker 8: an order, it's not like a few good men with
Speaker 8: Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise at the end of the movie.
Speaker 8: The two guys are found not guilty, but they're still
Speaker 8: kicked out of the Marines because they could have refused
Speaker 8: the order. You cannot refuse an order from a commander
Speaker 8: in chief. We have five out of six active military
Speaker 8: that is still active military that have not been brought
Speaker 8: to trial for January sixth that entered the Capitol, and
Speaker 8: the five of them have already stated very clearly that
Speaker 8: their commander in chief gave them an order.
Speaker 3: There yeah, I hear you. I want to grab another
Speaker 3: call againt somebody in. But there's no doubt he endorsed it.
Speaker 3: He endorsed the attack. That's the thing is people could
Speaker 3: talk about the Jeff, I appreciate the call. You talk
Speaker 3: about the economy of the Trump. You talk about the
Speaker 3: fact that the that he has the experience that he
Speaker 3: actually was president, even though whether you think he was
Speaker 3: a good one or not. The January sixth just that's
Speaker 3: not supposed to happen in America period. That's why I'm
Speaker 3: out on the guy. That just hangs in my head.
Speaker 3: And people died because of it. People died because of it.
Speaker 3: We had these people just desecrating walking through Congress, chasing
Speaker 3: the vice president.
Speaker 2: Are you crazy?
Speaker 3: Furthermore, in any other country, the guards would have taken
Speaker 3: them all out. They just would have opened fire. Because
Speaker 3: we are humane society and a certain section of society
Speaker 3: that day did not behave that way. All right, Tim
Speaker 3: and Winthrop, Buddy, you're up on WBZ.
Speaker 12: They I'm with Dan Ray on this one. I'm a
Speaker 12: Donald Trump guy. The only reason him voting for him
Speaker 12: is because of the record he had with the inflation
Speaker 12: and the record he had with the with the heat
Speaker 12: and oil and I just don't think Harris is qualified
Speaker 12: to the president and she's not.
Speaker 2: But but Trump wasn't the first time around either, you.
Speaker 12: Know, Yeah, well he did. I think he did a
Speaker 12: good job by wallet.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're voting with your wallet, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it. Listen, I understand. Believe me.
Speaker 12: I get that Reagan guy from way back, and I
Speaker 12: met Reagan a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Reagan turned out to be a great president,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't a.
Speaker 12: Trump was wrong about the point. He says he had
Speaker 12: the greatest economy. Reagan had that, no question about his
Speaker 12: second term. But Trump's things and I have a lot
Speaker 12: of there's a lot of stuff on both sides that's crazy.
Speaker 12: But the vice president, she could have picked someone better
Speaker 12: than that who I really like.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 12: I like Telsey Gabbott. And I think Gabbitt's gonna run
Speaker 12: in twenty eight against Vance on the Republican side and
Speaker 12: the Democratic side. I think it's going to be Newsome better.
Speaker 12: Hope that Harris loses because he's he's a loser. He's
Speaker 12: gonna pushed way back.
Speaker 2: You know, what about what about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 12: That's a Shapiro. Now, no, I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 12: look a Jewish guy. I'm Jewish myself, but I don't
Speaker 12: think they're gonna.
Speaker 3: I know it's part of that, it's part of the discussion.
Speaker 3: It's anti Semitism. It just it sucks.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't have anything to do with its horrible. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a it's a horrible truth. It's
Speaker 2: a horrible truth. It's it's it's terrible.
Speaker 12: But I'm voth for the lesser two evils.
Speaker 2: And Kamala question.
Speaker 12: Everybody bothers me, Gary. The most thing that bothers me
Speaker 12: is the the when she said price controls, and she
Speaker 12: should have whoever's advising he made a big mistake. I
Speaker 12: agree patrol did not work in Venezuela.
Speaker 3: Well, you price controls, you think communism, and you think, no,
Speaker 3: we want a free market.
Speaker 12: I guess they were saying that stopping shop, Heave and Safeway,
Speaker 12: the three big supermarkets. I was in Texas a while ago,
Speaker 12: and they're getting ready down there. I'm telling you around here,
Speaker 12: I asked politics, and people around Boston say, hate yourself.
Speaker 12: I go down south and go out west. Not California,
Speaker 12: but I go to Arizona and they say they're very friendly.
Speaker 12: But I noticed one thing. They have caravans of vans
Speaker 12: with guns, and I hate to see it with a
Speaker 12: civil war. I don't want that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 12: That would be horrible.
Speaker 2: You know that would be horrible. And Tim, thank you
Speaker 2: for the phone call, buddy. We appreciate the time. Going
Speaker 2: to take a quick break and wrap it up on
Speaker 2: nights Side on WBZ.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
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Speaker 3: talking about the primaries that actually did take place today folks,
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