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<v Speaker 1>It's NIC's eyes, Dan rayas Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, folks, I don't do it a lot, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing it tonight. Light them up.

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<v Speaker 3>Six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to see in the debate? September tenth. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the big news today that the former president Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>will be debating the vice president Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take place in Philadelphia. It will be

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<v Speaker 2>on NBC.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, ABC, Sorry, David, you're uh ABC at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>And so far, what we know here are the rules,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Trump campaign has agreed to these, agreed to

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<v Speaker 3>the rules that we saw in the previous debate with Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike's will only be opened when a candidate is addressing

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<v Speaker 3>a question post to them, So it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be open Mike's the whole time, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>boring quite frankly. Furthermore, there'll be no studio audience at

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<v Speaker 3>least that's the way it was. You got to have

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<v Speaker 3>a studio audience. You got to have some energy in

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<v Speaker 3>the room. That's what I think. You got to have

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<v Speaker 3>some energy in the room. Now, I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty interesting. Should a candidate be able to confer with

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<v Speaker 3>campaign staffers during commercial breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not so. I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, in football sports analogy, you have huddles, you

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<v Speaker 3>have timeouts. Should a consultant during your commercial break go

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<v Speaker 3>over to you former President Trump or Vice President Harris

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<v Speaker 3>and make a comment, help them out with something, give

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<v Speaker 3>them some information.

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<v Speaker 2>Should they be able to do that? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say no to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it really matters, because they would

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<v Speaker 3>just be talking to them about a question that they've

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<v Speaker 3>already screwed up or handled. So I may be a

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<v Speaker 3>too little, too late. The problem with keeping the mics

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<v Speaker 3>open the whole time is that our politicians have become children,

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<v Speaker 3>and Trump is the worst at it now. His people

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<v Speaker 3>do not want open mics. They want the president Trump speaks,

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<v Speaker 3>the Vice President Harris speaks, and back and forth, and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's polite. That's not a debate, it's really not. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not a debate. A debate is what. It's debating ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>It's having passionate discussion about a topic, which means you

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<v Speaker 3>should be able to talk over one another.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>If it gets too out of hand, then the moderator

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<v Speaker 3>has to step in, bring out a gong, bring out

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<v Speaker 3>a buzzer, I don't know, and just tell people to

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<v Speaker 3>shut up and let the other person finish. As simple

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<v Speaker 3>as that. But a debate needs to be passionate. It

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be an exchange of ideas. It needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be volleys back and forth. Now like your turn to

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<v Speaker 3>talk might turn to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is is that they're not mature enough

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<v Speaker 3>to handle it, to have the decorum, and it's more

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<v Speaker 3>entertaining to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think Harris Harris needs to keep it simple in this debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Harris is gonna win, and I'm not endorsing her.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that the brat the young people are

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<v Speaker 3>going to push her over the top. And there are

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<v Speaker 3>some people that are just gonna say I can't vote

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<v Speaker 3>for Trump because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think he's a despicable human being.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there are even people that want to vote

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<v Speaker 3>for their pocketbook that would rather go with Trump because

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<v Speaker 3>they think he can do better with the economy. But

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<v Speaker 3>like I said to Sam, look if they drop interest

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<v Speaker 3>rates before for the election, doesn't matter who's president. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it all depends on when they drop the interest rates

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<v Speaker 3>and when the Fed wants to stimulate the economy and

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<v Speaker 3>get it going again as opposed to slow it down.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about that a million times six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty. What do you want to see in the debate?

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<v Speaker 3>What rules do you want to see? Let's grab Wendy

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<v Speaker 3>and Marlborough. Wendy, thank you for calling on night side.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 5>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you. I think the debate is after

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<v Speaker 5>the audience and people are talking over each other, because

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, if it's just two people talking, it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be boring for me to sleep now, So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that it said who's to be that this is?

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<v Speaker 5>Have the audience, and they said allow the people to

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<v Speaker 5>talk over each other because it is a debate. You're right,

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<v Speaker 5>So and.

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy, I think that it.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see how the politicians will react. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to see how they react under pressure. I mean mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know Trump could lose as cool I think listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Kamala I disagree with Sam. I think if

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<v Speaker 3>she gets going, when she gets pissed, you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>can get rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the difference between her and Hillary is is

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<v Speaker 3>secretary of State. Clinton was very cautious, She smiled a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>she wanted to be liked, She tried to be polite,

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<v Speaker 3>take the gloves off. And I think Harris can take

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<v Speaker 3>the gloves off against Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, and I think that, yeah, I work to

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<v Speaker 2>her advantage.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Harris is gonna make misery out of him.

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<v Speaker 5>I really do.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It is going to be musty TV. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>the phone call, Wendy, and I appreciate it. Six one, seven, two, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty. How do you feel about it? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to have open mics, bring out the gloves, let

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<v Speaker 3>him go, exchange of ideas. I did just see something

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<v Speaker 3>pop up on CNN where she is going to release

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<v Speaker 3>an economic policy and that should be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 3>because that isn't something that she has.

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<v Speaker 2>Discussed a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't this, and Sam's my guy, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that because she doesn't do well exteporaneously, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>speak with confidence on some issues. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to make her a bad president. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what you're getting with Trump? You know that's really what

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<v Speaker 3>it comes down to, right, you know what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 3>You're getting a guy who is just basically concerned about himself.

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<v Speaker 3>That may help the economy. Again, he was fortunate the

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<v Speaker 3>economy was going great when he was president. When Biden

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<v Speaker 3>came in, inflation spiked, then it came back down. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you know, I think if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>tax breaks, Harris is the one that's putting that for worth.

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<v Speaker 3>For four thousand dollars for a child per child in

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<v Speaker 3>your family, that can make a difference with some families,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt about it. You know, when Trump was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about tax breaks, it was for people making three hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred thousand dollars. It's not exactly helping out the

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<v Speaker 3>middle class. You know who Donald Trump is, You know

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<v Speaker 3>what he is. You know what it's going to be like.

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<v Speaker 3>He tried to overthrow the government.

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<v Speaker 2>For God's sakes.

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<v Speaker 3>What you know what the four years will be like

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<v Speaker 3>with Trumps president. You don't know what the four years

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<v Speaker 3>under Harris would be like.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know. You don't.

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<v Speaker 3>She could, it could if the economy's going great. She'll

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<v Speaker 3>go down in history as a great president. It's always

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<v Speaker 3>about the pocketbook and if they dropped the interest rates

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<v Speaker 3>before the election, it could work for her. And you're

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<v Speaker 3>off and running. And as I said, legacies and aid

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<v Speaker 3>by occurrences, by tragedies, by controversies, by issues, how you

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<v Speaker 3>handled something. Would we care about Abraham Lincoln if there

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<v Speaker 3>was no Civil war and ending slavery? Would we care

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<v Speaker 3>about John Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis? Would we

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<v Speaker 3>handled the attack on the towers in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>She could have her moment. We don't know what she

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<v Speaker 2>will do. We know what Trump will do.

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<v Speaker 3>Calls coming up next on w b Z six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 3>four ten thirty. Uh, Dana and now you guys stick

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<v Speaker 3>around what I know what you think? Next on Nightside,

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Tangway for Dan ray Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World night

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<v Speaker 1>Side Studios on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 3>News Radio by Gary for Dan ray Tonight six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We get data in Wooster.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the Presidents of debate coming up on

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<v Speaker 3>the tenth, which I cannot wait to see. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be phenomenal television. Half of me wants

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<v Speaker 3>just an absolute bleep show. You know, let's go all

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Springer, throwing chairs, just going bananas. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>other half is can we be growing up about this?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm struggling data in Worcester, Europe on WBC's Night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 7>How are you? Honestly? I just think that like Kamala

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<v Speaker 7>and Trump, like you said, you know what you get

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<v Speaker 7>when you get Trump right, But with Kamala, I really

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<v Speaker 7>do believe that she can put him in his place.

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<v Speaker 7>But she can do it eloquently. She doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 7>bash anybody or belinna anybody. It's becoming a piston match

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<v Speaker 7>and it's embarrassing. So now, of course there's rules and

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<v Speaker 7>regulations because even though you know what you get with Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>you kind of don't either. Well the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 7>At the end of the day, everybody's making fun of

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<v Speaker 7>each other and they're forgetting about the actual meeting of

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<v Speaker 7>the whole debate process. You want to get to know

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<v Speaker 7>your opponents, you want to make sure that like you're

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<v Speaker 7>fine working with each other or without each other, But

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<v Speaker 7>it's you have to actually why in a mic and

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<v Speaker 7>not have an audience, and it's disgusting and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 7>it's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, No, you're absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Kamala should have a chance to put his

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<v Speaker 7>ass at his place. Well, you just do it in

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<v Speaker 7>a way that would probably people would look up to her,

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<v Speaker 7>just simply because he's not bashing her or calling anybody

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<v Speaker 7>any other stupid names. Is making it into something that

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<v Speaker 7>it's not. It's pretty awful that we have to live

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<v Speaker 7>in today's society living like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Pet of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not agree with you more. I could not

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you more.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for taking my bumfa. That's all I really

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<v Speaker 7>want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you call it. I appreciate it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thank you, Dan, I appreciate that. Okay, six one, seven, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>She's right, and most of Americans feel that way, they

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<v Speaker 3>really do. Can we be presidential again? Can we have

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<v Speaker 3>some decorum? Can we have a debate and an exchange

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<v Speaker 3>of ideas. Can we see how one candidate reacts to

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<v Speaker 3>the other, how they handle the stress? Can they think

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<v Speaker 3>on their feet? But it becomes the Jerry Springer show.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all know Trump just makes stuff up. Me

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<v Speaker 3>just makes it up. That's what he does. If Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>spoke as confidently as Trump does. She should smell them.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's not great on her feet. She's not. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're voting for the unknown. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>getting with Vice President Harris. You don't and you can't

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<v Speaker 3>base it. She's not Biden, Okay, she's not. You know

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<v Speaker 3>how she feels about reproductive rights, that's obvious. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what you're getting with that. She's come out. She's pro

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<v Speaker 3>four thousand dollars per child, which can make it. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>that can help out a household. So you understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>But how does she.

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<v Speaker 2>Work under pressure? How does she work.

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<v Speaker 3>When she's sitting across the table from other leaders around

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<v Speaker 3>But we do know that history tells us that presidents

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<v Speaker 3>in the past that have had that same question rise

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<v Speaker 3>to the occasion. Trump just doesn't want to talk to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not going to work. Alan Saugus Heal you're up

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you think giving up our constitution for globalist is

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<v Speaker 2>Explain? I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 9>The globalists don't want us to have a US constitution.

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<v Speaker 9>They don't want a constitutional government. You know the World

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<v Speaker 9>Economic Forum places like that in NATO that doesn't pay there.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you like NATO paying.

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<v Speaker 6>Their fair share?

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<v Speaker 9>Or we got to be suckers for NATO some more.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the fact is, if you belong to NATO, you

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<v Speaker 3>big brother in NATO and people don't pay their share,

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<v Speaker 3>that means they owe you, and that has worked for

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<v Speaker 2>That means they owe you.

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<v Speaker 9>What's that NATO should have disbanded when the Soviet Union,

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<v Speaker 9>when Russia broke up, That's what NATO should have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 6>It was no longer necessary. But that's another story.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wouldn't know why you're worried now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's necessary now when you look at what

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<v Speaker 9>Oh but it was only a minor incursion, and Biden

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<v Speaker 9>let it go and then it blew up in his

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<v Speaker 9>Minsk agreement. There could have had a treaty a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of weeks into that, and Biden said, don't you dare

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<v Speaker 9>because there Maggie's a warmonger making money off of it,

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<v Speaker 9>making money off of that war and a million people died,

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<v Speaker 9>they could have had a peace treaty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not so sure about that one, all right.

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<v Speaker 9>But let me go back to the mute. Why do

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<v Speaker 9>you want a Jerry It's kind of disgusting that you

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<v Speaker 9>you joke a little that you want a Jerry Springer thing.

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<v Speaker 9>People's lives here matter, and everyone's livelihood, and I want

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<v Speaker 9>it to be muted because she's gonna play the woman victim.

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<v Speaker 6>She just like you said earlier.

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<v Speaker 10>She's going to bait them.

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<v Speaker 9>And what do you need people interrupted each other for?

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<v Speaker 9>Like I just talked over you a minute ago. We

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<v Speaker 9>don't need that's that's each person's state stand and deliver,

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<v Speaker 10>Let me fin as you didn't let me finn as you're.

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<v Speaker 9>Talking your man speaking to me. I could see it

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<v Speaker 9>play out so much. I'm so glad they're muting it.

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<v Speaker 9>And I hope they'd muted with no need people talking

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<v Speaker 9>over each other and that woman Dana that call want

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<v Speaker 9>to put him in his place, and some of the derogatory,

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I will tell you this that the rules may change,

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<v Speaker 3>and they may open up the mics. But as they

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<v Speaker 3>stand right now, they're each going to have their turn

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<v Speaker 3>and speak. But I like to see how people react

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<v Speaker 3>under pressure. I think, quite frankly, it would work for

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<v Speaker 3>Trump if the mics were open and he was the

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<v Speaker 3>adult in the room, if he refrained from the ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 3>childish remarks, if he didn't see things question whether she

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<v Speaker 3>was actually African American or not. I mean, if he

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<v Speaker 3>just if he played the If the mics were open

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<v Speaker 3>and Trump played the adult.

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<v Speaker 2>In the room, it would be a huge advantage for him.

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<v Speaker 6>All he has to say is, hey, come on, do

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<v Speaker 6>you get fries with that? Oh? Waitmen, you didn't work

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<v Speaker 6>at McDonald's. Oh okay, a phone call, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to Daryl and new Bruns or

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<v Speaker 2>Daryl you're up on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Larry Bardner, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great part?

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<v Speaker 10>Now are you I'm actually listening and actually appreciating the

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<v Speaker 10>conversation what you're having. Thank you, because uh, at the

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<v Speaker 10>same time, what we're looking for is credibility, and you're

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<v Speaker 10>talking about having an open mic. I am sure that

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<v Speaker 10>most people would support that because that way and if

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<v Speaker 10>you remember an old Tom Cruise movie with Jack Nichols,

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<v Speaker 10>Jack Nicholson, Yes, a few good men, Yes, sir, and

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<v Speaker 10>therefore it's a As a veteran, I served in Mogadishu

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<v Speaker 10>with American service members as well as other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your service? Are you?

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<v Speaker 10>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? You're calling for New.

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<v Speaker 10>Brunswick you I'm Canadian veteran, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, well well nonetheless you're our neighbor and thank you.

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<v Speaker 10>For your service and we're on the same team, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 10>But at the same time, if people can actually see

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<v Speaker 10>how people react to what most people are wanting to

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<v Speaker 10>see how they act under pressure and open Mike to

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<v Speaker 10>see if you actually get what you think you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we need less scripted? Yes, that's yes, Darryl. You

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<v Speaker 2>just said it.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see if you if you actually get

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<v Speaker 3>what you think you're getting.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, yes, And the kicker is is so I can

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<v Speaker 10>say I'm biased for anything. I'm totally neutral because with

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<v Speaker 10>me being Canadian, when we had a hurricane Andrew Go

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<v Speaker 10>three years ago, my buddy and I flew down with

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<v Speaker 10>our engineers to help rebuild school in Dade County and

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<v Speaker 10>we didn't actually get our paperwork. We paid it own way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you, wow, very nice of you.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's the support you guys have from Canadians.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well we appreciated there on the Bronswick's a great place.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 10>You take care and hey make sure everybody's said right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, kid, thank you for the phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Six seven thirty open phones between now and twelve midnight tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Tagway and for Dan Ray. And this is WBC's

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<v Speaker 3>Night Side coming up with the tenth. It was announced

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<v Speaker 3>today the Presidents of debate will take place between Vice

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<v Speaker 3>President Harris and former President Donald Trump. It'll be in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 3>ABC will have it, and the rules have been established.

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<v Speaker 3>No audience, The mics will be closed when the other

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<v Speaker 3>candidate is speaking, they cannot confer, they cannot get help

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<v Speaker 3>when they're in a commercial break at any time. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>just simply have a glass of water, no pad, and

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<v Speaker 3>a pencil and that's it. That part is fine with me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can let them have two glasses of water.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, that's if needed. But the more

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<v Speaker 3>I think about it, if Donald Trump just shows that

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<v Speaker 3>he's the adult in the room and Vice President Harris

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<v Speaker 3>this is her composure, that might be the play for him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he might get someone decided to go his way

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<v Speaker 3>because they feel that he's better for the economy, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least he has experience of being in the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that weigh into this at all with anybody? Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>he did try to overthrow the government.

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<v Speaker 2>But forget about it. Let's go to Steve. Steve's coming

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<v Speaker 2>in from Merrimack in New Hampshire, coming in hot, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>You're next on WVZ. Hey Gary, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>What's any money good? You know.

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<v Speaker 11>I watched the Interruption.

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<v Speaker 6>Debate on October twenty ninth, twenty twenty, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>very difficult to watch. I think Chris Wallace, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think he would ever do a debate after that one.

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<v Speaker 6>He was not too happy, as you may recall. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that, you know, I know, you want to see

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<v Speaker 6>more energy in the debate, but I really believe that,

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<v Speaker 6>people need to, you know, have some respect for one another.

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<v Speaker 6>And right now, I don't think that Trump is going

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<v Speaker 6>to do anything different than he did. Then I'd like

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<v Speaker 6>to see them talk about the economy and issues that

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<v Speaker 6>really matter to the American people and what they plan

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<v Speaker 6>to do about it. Right now, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 6>number one issue that people are concerned about, the inflation

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<v Speaker 6>and the prices that have gone up in the last

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<v Speaker 6>four years. You know, really, Harris is going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to defend Biden's policies. I'm not sure if she can

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<v Speaker 6>because they spend all that money in twenty one caused

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<v Speaker 6>the inflation to go up. People that are on fixed

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<v Speaker 6>incomes are hurting big time, and they don't seem to care.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just going to say, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to have to see a debate where you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get into personalities and you know, name calling and

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<v Speaker 6>the thing that Trump does. And you know, I have

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<v Speaker 6>problems with both candidates actually, but Trump is he will

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<v Speaker 6>probably make the country better if he were to win.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure he can win because I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>he can keep his mind shut well, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the look.

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<v Speaker 3>If January sixth had not happened at the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>if the president at the time, Donald Trump, had stepped

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<v Speaker 3>in and said stop it, you know, I could sit

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<v Speaker 3>here and go all right, you know, yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 3>make a case for the guy. That's what really worries me,

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<v Speaker 3>how that whole he could have stopped it, and how

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<v Speaker 3>that went down and people lost their lives with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't handle that. But you're right. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear about the issues.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to hear about, you know, jobs, you want

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>here and I go to send a kid to college,

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<v Speaker 3>people want ninety thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's erics, It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then this is my problem with the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration, that they go out and look, I've paid

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<v Speaker 3>And I know it's the interest on the loans and

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<v Speaker 3>so forth, and it's it's not as much as one

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I don't care. To me.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to you got to go after the universities

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<v Speaker 3>and you got to lower the price of college. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know that sounds communist and it's socialists and so forth,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't need the government paying for other people's

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<v Speaker 2>So I hear you, man, I get your frustration with that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, on the forgiveness issue. The one thing they

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<v Speaker 6>never finish is who is going to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the American tax. Here we are people, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for that college.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, I know, what.

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<v Speaker 6>If you didn't go to college, what if you already

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<v Speaker 6>paid out your student loan? You know, why would you

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<v Speaker 6>want to pay it for somebody else that you don't

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<v Speaker 6>even know? And if you're going to do it, then

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<v Speaker 6>you should be able to tell them what kind of

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<v Speaker 6>curriculum they're going to take. And they don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>be a plumber, you know, be an electrician, you'll make

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<v Speaker 6>a lot more money.

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<v Speaker 8>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to tell Sive, I've had this discussion with people,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>The trade schools are doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>Students are saying, I'm not going to pay for four

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<v Speaker 3>years of a university or a college and being debt

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<v Speaker 3>for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. But I'm interested in the trades, and I

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<v Speaker 3>go become an electrician or a plumber, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's one year or two years, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not in debt. And I go out and start a business,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm rocking and rolling because I know I can't

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<v Speaker 3>do anything with a faucet and I certainly can't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything with an outlet. So I call guys, I call people,

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<v Speaker 3>and they come to my house. You're absolutely right, the

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<v Speaker 3>trades or not. The trades are not promoted enough, There's

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<v Speaker 3>no question.

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<v Speaker 6>But my phoner makes over three hundred thousand a year

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<v Speaker 6>and the only reason he doesn't make more than that

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<v Speaker 6>is because he doesn't want to work weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, buddy, you know, And that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>So all I can say is I think we're in

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of trouble with no matter who wins, I

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<v Speaker 6>have problems with both candidates, and I just don't think

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<v Speaker 6>that you know, we're going to have the same acrimony,

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<v Speaker 6>the same problems we've had no matter who wins. And

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<v Speaker 6>I and I don't think that Kamala Harris is even

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<v Speaker 6>remotely qualified to be president. You know, she is not

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<v Speaker 6>a genuine person at all. And then you got Trump

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<v Speaker 6>that just you know, he just can't keep his mard shut.

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<v Speaker 6>If he just shut up, he'd probably win. If he

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<v Speaker 6>had picked Nikki Haley instead of J. D. Vans, he

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<v Speaker 6>would have been much better off.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Steve, I think you made a very good point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an and I thought he was going to pick her.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he I thought he was going to pick her.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right.

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<v Speaker 6>He's very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've met her. I met her one time when

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<v Speaker 6>she was running, and she's a very smart woman. She's

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<v Speaker 6>no drama. She's got a nice husband. We don't want

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<v Speaker 6>I want somebody younger, without drama. I'm tired of the drama.

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<v Speaker 6>The pressell love it, but I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to hear we're more worried about the personalities

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<v Speaker 6>than we are about the future of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it's a reality It's a freaking reality show, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, with you one and.

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<v Speaker 6>She's got her independent Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well look she's not. She does not have the qualifications

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<v Speaker 3>to be president. She doesn't not at all, not even close,

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<v Speaker 3>not even close. And she and Biden, he I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know. I don't think he knows what year he's

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<v Speaker 3>living in. My age is age caught up with Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>He should have been running sooner than he did.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to attack the guy for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Well anyway, I just good, good topic. Good know, I

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<v Speaker 6>like listening to and uh, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>that's just the way I look at it. I'm everybody

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<v Speaker 6>I talked to you they agree that we don't really

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<v Speaker 6>like the candidates that are out there. Nobody gets excited.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. I was at the Labor Day parade in Milford,

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<v Speaker 6>New Hampshire, uh, yesterday, and nobody was getting all excited

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<v Speaker 6>about those candidates that were walking on the parade. They

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<v Speaker 6>were it wasn't they were there, but it was mostly

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<v Speaker 6>the people in the parade that were cheering themselves on.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt, she's not qualified and the only qualification for

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<v Speaker 3>him is that he was elected once.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you look at their resumes and you go,

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<v Speaker 2>how are these how are these two people?

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<v Speaker 8>What?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, I.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's getting real close, what seventy something days to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think I think, I think that I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's gonna win because I think they are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be people. But there are people who are voting

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<v Speaker 3>that have not voted in the past, and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to vote for her. All right, thank you, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>the call. Let's go to Brian real quick. Brian, you're

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<v Speaker 3>up on wbside.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Yes, this is Brian from Franklin. Thanks for taking

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<v Speaker 4>my call. I wanted to weigh in on like the

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<v Speaker 4>upcoming election and why I think Donald Trump's is still

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<v Speaker 4>the right choice for our country. I know that in

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<v Speaker 4>Massachusetts Trump might not be the most popular figure, but

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that he's a leader that we need now,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when it comes to fixing the economy, standing up

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<v Speaker 4>for American workers. And we had the strongest economy in

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<v Speaker 4>modern history under him. Unemployment was a record low, and

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<v Speaker 4>we were thriving and we were seeing benefits, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but under this administration, like we're dealing with rising and

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<v Speaker 4>plation gas prices going up, supplying shade issues, and it

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<v Speaker 4>feels like we're taking like a step back. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>that Trump's got the experience and track record to get

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<v Speaker 4>us back on board with that and like to help

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<v Speaker 4>him out, like with some of the points that he's

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<v Speaker 4>been doing. It's like where you know, and Trump was

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<v Speaker 4>about being energy independent, you know, making United States, uh

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<v Speaker 4>stand up against China on trade and bring jobs back

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States, like with natural gas. And then

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<v Speaker 4>like the foreign policy under Trump, there was no you know,

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<v Speaker 4>serious attacks in Iraq. I kept the military strong. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, I get that everyone thinks that Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>style isn't you know, up to par with them, But

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, results matter. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump delivered results, and he benefited everyday Americans, not just

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<v Speaker 4>the rich the elite.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think I'm curious on that. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you think he benefited every day Americans?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, when we were having the lower prices

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<v Speaker 4>in the grocery stores, that was definitely a benefit. Plus

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<v Speaker 4>pay has been going up, you know under him, my

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<v Speaker 4>four oh one k was was much higher than before.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I mean and so yeah, I just feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that, you know, every day things. We were hearing

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<v Speaker 4>the drama on the TV, but like life was just,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, much better back when Trump was running the country, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, well we also had COVID which wasn't great

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<v Speaker 3>by I understand what you're saying, Brian, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>the phone call. I appreciate your viewpoint. We have to

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<v Speaker 3>take a break. We're gonna get to Jeffrey in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up next on WBZ, Gary Tangway for Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>This is night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio, Gary Tagway for Dan Tonight, we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>terrific show.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd like to thank everybody for joining us and coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tomorrow get a great show. Casey Sherman is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be joining us.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh A.

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<v Speaker 3>Casey's writing a terrific story, Man behind bars, Still behind bars,

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<v Speaker 3>professing his innocence, So that happens tomorrow night here on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 3>Also jump Powers the great John Powers of the Boston

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<v Speaker 3>Globe covering the Olympics again in Paris. And when we

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<v Speaker 3>think of the Globe Sports section, we think of my

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<v Speaker 3>friends Bob, Ryan, Dan Shaughnessy. He joined us tonight the

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<v Speaker 3>late great Will McDonough, the late great Nick Cafardo, and

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<v Speaker 3>just Larry Whiteside, Jackie McMullen, just a murderer's row of

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Gammons of sports writers, and John Powers is right

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<v Speaker 3>there with him. No one has covered the Olympics like him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was still out of this year in Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to talk to him about that and

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<v Speaker 3>what we have to look forward to in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, did Boston screw up? Could it have happened?

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<v Speaker 8>Here?

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<v Speaker 3>And my friend Toroy Champaign great documentary with Mickey Hart

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<v Speaker 3>of The Grateful Dead talking about the rhythm of sports

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<v Speaker 3>and the connection between music's and sports and it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a great film and it's on the ESPN Plus and

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<v Speaker 3>it's so funny to have the Remember the Grateful Dead

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<v Speaker 3>with a Celtics jacket on. The guy loves his music

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<v Speaker 3>and he loves his sports, and there's a connection as

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<v Speaker 3>far as he's concerned. So that's all coming up tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 3>Right here on WBC, Jeffrey in New York is chiming

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<v Speaker 3>in on what he wants to see in the presidential

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<v Speaker 3>debate on the tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Jeffrey you're on.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, hey, Gary, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm nice and clear because I got my I'm plugged

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<v Speaker 8>into a charger at in Newburgh right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're all good, buddy, I got you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm hoping to see what happened in the first

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<v Speaker 8>Democratic debate in twenty twenty. I'm hoping to seek Tamala

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<v Speaker 8>unleash her clause and do to Donald Trump what she

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<v Speaker 8>did to Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, right, right, right, rights, good point. Right, Oh, that's excellent,

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<v Speaker 2>excellent point. And I remember when that happened. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you brought that up because I remember what she did.

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<v Speaker 8>I talked, Yeah, go ahead, sorry, I talked to I

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<v Speaker 8>talked to her team. I talked to her advisors and

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<v Speaker 8>asked them what happened, and they said they rained her

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<v Speaker 8>in because he started stuttering, and Joe did because she

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<v Speaker 8>did what.

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<v Speaker 11>She does best.

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<v Speaker 8>She prosecuted and Joe started stuttering. And her advice has

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<v Speaker 8>told her, you can't do that again, you know, because

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<v Speaker 8>nobody's going to look favorably on you beating up on

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<v Speaker 8>an old man who used to stutter, who all of

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<v Speaker 8>a sudden is stuttering again.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, and she's a prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was with.

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<v Speaker 8>Bill Wells's team actually in twenty twenty, and you know.

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<v Speaker 11>And I was just like, okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>I voted one against Donald Trump and two for Kamala.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've never liked Joe.

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<v Speaker 8>Fifty years of get along, go along, get along, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>change with the wind, right, you know, it wasn't my

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<v Speaker 8>hope that you know, that he'd be you know, become

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<v Speaker 8>infirm or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jeff, I have to ask you something. You brought

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<v Speaker 3>up a great point of how she went after him

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<v Speaker 3>in the debate. She also did very well on the

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<v Speaker 3>Today Morning Show where she had a strong She started

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<v Speaker 3>very strong, and then they reined her in and I

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<v Speaker 3>thought they rained her in because they made a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, look, you're going to be the vice president

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<v Speaker 3>if Biden wins. And I thought that was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the deal because I thought initially I thought Kamala was

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<v Speaker 3>a real threat.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she made some mistakes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think she got on her heels because of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about. And I think she got on

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<v Speaker 3>her heels because because.

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<v Speaker 8>She was absolutely told, she's absolutely told by her team

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<v Speaker 8>to back off of it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was a mistake for her.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe they've viewed Okay, well we'll get in being

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<v Speaker 3>a vice president and look, she's got a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>be president anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how she's gonna I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>she's going to be as president. But she just needs

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<v Speaker 3>to go at Trump, That's what I think, because she

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<v Speaker 3>is a prosecutor and that's what she does best. I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with you one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. And his team is terrified of her.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's why they don't want to open mics.

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<v Speaker 11>She was a damn good prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know when he starts babbling and under his

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<v Speaker 8>breath the racist remox and he makes under his breath, right,

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<v Speaker 8>and there's an open mic. Yeah, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and I've actually talked to a couple of her advisors recently,

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<v Speaker 8>because Bill and I talked several times, uh after the

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<v Speaker 8>first impeachment, Uh you know, and Bill was of the

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<v Speaker 8>mind that he had committed treason with what he pulled

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<v Speaker 8>with Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>About Bill when you say Bill, Bill, well yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh who who also was a dynamite federal assistant attorney

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<v Speaker 8>general who actually uh resigned because he couldn't work for

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<v Speaker 8>ed Mease, who was a criminal. And uh that caused

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<v Speaker 8>ed Meath to reach an agreement with Congress to step

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<v Speaker 8>out of the office rather than be prosecuted. And you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I talked to I talked to Bill shortly after January sixth,

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<v Speaker 8>and I brought up the point that the president doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>wear one hat. The president wears two hats. When the

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<v Speaker 8>president's wears the oath of office, he's not only swearing

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<v Speaker 8>the oath of office as a president, he's also swearing

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<v Speaker 8>the oath of office as the commander in chief of

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<v Speaker 8>all armed forces. Well, when the commander in chief gives

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<v Speaker 8>an order, it's not like a few good men with

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<v Speaker 8>Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise at the end of the movie.

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<v Speaker 8>The two guys are found not guilty, but they're still

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<v Speaker 8>kicked out of the Marines because they could have refused

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<v Speaker 8>the order. You cannot refuse an order from a commander

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<v Speaker 8>in chief. We have five out of six active military

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<v Speaker 8>that is still active military that have not been brought

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<v Speaker 8>to trial for January sixth that entered the Capitol, and

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<v Speaker 8>the five of them have already stated very clearly that

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<v Speaker 8>their commander in chief gave them an order.

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<v Speaker 3>There yeah, I hear you. I want to grab another

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<v Speaker 3>call againt somebody in. But there's no doubt he endorsed it.

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<v Speaker 3>He endorsed the attack. That's the thing is people could

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the Jeff, I appreciate the call. You talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the economy of the Trump. You talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that the that he has the experience that he

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<v Speaker 3>actually was president, even though whether you think he was

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<v Speaker 3>a good one or not. The January sixth just that's

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to happen in America period. That's why I'm

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<v Speaker 3>out on the guy. That just hangs in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>And people died because of it. People died because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We had these people just desecrating walking through Congress, chasing

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<v Speaker 3>the vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Furthermore, in any other country, the guards would have taken

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<v Speaker 3>them all out. They just would have opened fire. Because

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<v Speaker 3>we are humane society and a certain section of society

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<v Speaker 3>that day did not behave that way. All right, Tim

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<v Speaker 3>and Winthrop, Buddy, you're up on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 12>They I'm with Dan Ray on this one. I'm a

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<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump guy. The only reason him voting for him

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<v Speaker 12>is because of the record he had with the inflation

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<v Speaker 12>and the record he had with the with the heat

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<v Speaker 12>and oil and I just don't think Harris is qualified

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<v Speaker 12>to the president and she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>But but Trump wasn't the first time around either, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Know, Yeah, well he did. I think he did a

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<v Speaker 12>good job by wallet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean you're voting with your wallet, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Listen, I understand. Believe me.

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<v Speaker 12>I get that Reagan guy from way back, and I

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<v Speaker 12>met Reagan a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Reagan turned out to be a great president,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't a.

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<v Speaker 12>Trump was wrong about the point. He says he had

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<v Speaker 12>the greatest economy. Reagan had that, no question about his

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<v Speaker 12>second term. But Trump's things and I have a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of there's a lot of stuff on both sides that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 12>But the vice president, she could have picked someone better

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<v Speaker 12>than that who I really like.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 12>I like Telsey Gabbott. And I think Gabbitt's gonna run

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<v Speaker 12>in twenty eight against Vance on the Republican side and

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<v Speaker 12>the Democratic side. I think it's going to be Newsome better.

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<v Speaker 12>Hope that Harris loses because he's he's a loser. He's

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<v Speaker 12>gonna pushed way back.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what about what about Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 12>That's a Shapiro. Now, no, I don't think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 12>look a Jewish guy. I'm Jewish myself, but I don't

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<v Speaker 12>think they're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's part of that, it's part of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>It's anti Semitism. It just it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't have anything to do with its horrible. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a it's a it's a horrible truth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible truth. It's it's it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 12>But I'm voth for the lesser two evils.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kamala question.

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<v Speaker 12>Everybody bothers me, Gary. The most thing that bothers me

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<v Speaker 12>is the the when she said price controls, and she

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<v Speaker 12>should have whoever's advising he made a big mistake. I

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<v Speaker 12>agree patrol did not work in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you price controls, you think communism, and you think, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we want a free market.

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<v Speaker 12>I guess they were saying that stopping shop, Heave and Safeway,

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<v Speaker 12>the three big supermarkets. I was in Texas a while ago,

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<v Speaker 12>and they're getting ready down there. I'm telling you around here,

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<v Speaker 12>I asked politics, and people around Boston say, hate yourself.

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<v Speaker 12>I go down south and go out west. Not California,

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<v Speaker 12>but I go to Arizona and they say they're very friendly.

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<v Speaker 12>But I noticed one thing. They have caravans of vans

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<v Speaker 12>with guns, and I hate to see it with a

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<v Speaker 12>civil war. I don't want that, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 12>That would be horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that would be horrible. And Tim, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for the phone call, buddy. We appreciate the time. Going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a quick break and wrap it up on

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<v Speaker 2>nights Side on WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Place in Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, great job everybody. Marita Laros a terrific job putting

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<v Speaker 3>this show together. Rob Brooks, thank you for keeping it

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<v Speaker 3>together in Flying High tonight. I'd like to thank all

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<v Speaker 3>my guests. They have been wonderful on the show this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Pauer, the great Chris Pauer. You got to check

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<v Speaker 3>him out on Heel. September fifteenth. Heels is coming out

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<v Speaker 3>on Netflix. Samantha Gross joining us with the Boston Globe

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the primaries that actually did take place today folks,

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<v Speaker 3>believe it or not. And my good buddy Sam Metler,

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<v Speaker 3>the Hollywood moderate and political expert. We always love talking

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<v Speaker 3>politics with Sam. Coming up tomorrow night, Casey Sherman is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be joining us. Casey's got another great cause out.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he wrote the great book. He's written some

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<v Speaker 3>terrific books as of late by Murder in Hollywood. If

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't checked that out, make sure you get to

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<v Speaker 3>check that out with involving a lot of Turner.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's coming up on the show to mow all night.

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<v Speaker 3>Also John Powers of the Boston Globe, Bundy Olympics, of

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<v Speaker 3>my friend Tory Champagne. He's got a documentary I called

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<v Speaker 3>Rhythm Masters. Thanks for listening. Tonight's side c Tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 3>at eight o'clock on WBC, Boston's news radio
