Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben micellis joined by Michael Cohen.
Hopefully everybody had a RESTful Labor day. Will show the
contrast between what President Joe Biden was doing on Labor
Day versus what Donald Trump was doing on Labor Day.
Hen Donald Trump was attacking workers. I want to hear
from Michael Cohen, get some updates about the five hundred
million dollar federal court case that Donald Trump filed against
Michael Cohen. I know just moments ago you may have
got an update there about Donald Trump's deposition. I want
you to break the news here first on, you know,
let us know what's going on in Political Beatdown. Speaking
of depositions, I want to go through that New York
Attorney General deposition transcript of Donald Trump. I think it
was incredibly incriminating. This is in the civil fraud case
where trial is set for next month. Let's go through
some of the most incriminating, ridiculous, absurd statements Donald Trump
made there. Then we should also talk about a filing
today from George Santos and the Department of Justice. Seems
to suggest that George Santos is in plean negotiations with
the doj we'll talk about that some special counsel Jack Smith,
updates and more. But Michael Cohen, how are you doing, sir?
Speaker 2: Alrighty like yourself. I hope all of our brigaders had
a fantastic couple of days off and they had a
fantastic labor day. So today, as you may well know,
my lawyers Donia Perry and Ben Brodsky appeared before the
Southern District of Miami for a hearing in regard to
the Trump versus Cohen five hundred million dollar retaliatory for
the List lawsuit. One of the problems that we've had
so far, of course, is scheduling. This step is position
which is supposed to be scheduled for tomorrow, and as
a result of the Georgia arraignment, it was questionable of
whether or not tomorrow would be a day because Donald
of course had the opportunity to go in person and
to have the indictment read to him and then to
of course put in his plea of not guilty. Well,
he elected not to do it that way, as did
the other eighteen co defendants. They all waive their right
to the you know, to the reading, and so they
just did it via paper the same way that Donald did,
all of whom pled not guilty, And so I truly
did expect that the court was going to hold Donald
to tomorrow's deposition, But due to a new lawyer that's
coming on to assist Alexandro Brito, Brigaders get a load
of this crap. So they bringing on another lawyer in
order to help protect Donald in his Fifth Amendment right
claims that he will probably be invoking during that deposition
because some of the questions that could be asked of
him could also incriminate him in other cases that are
currently pending, and therefore they want this other lawyer there
to assist them in ensuring that his Fifth Amendment rights
against self incrimination aren't violated. I mean, this is just
the craziest thing. The guy brings a five hundred million
dollar lawsuit. We are pushing every single day not just
to get this deposition, which of course we're entitled to,
but also the discovery documents and something that also came
out of today's hearing Twofold first and foremost October third,
that deposition, as the judge stated, come hell or high water,
that court ordered deposition is going forward. So that's going
to be a great day for us. The second is
they want to know, based upon the documents that have
been provided, they want to know the discovery search terms
and how it was conducted. Because they, let's say they
sent two hundred documents, more than half of them or
at least half of them, are duplicative, and so they
don't really provide the discovery that was requested by my counsel.
So they now have to put in an affid davit,
which has to of course be confirmed and attested to
by Donald Trump as well. That obviously puts us once
again in a stronger position because it's going to be
interesting to find out how they went ahead and they
did the search, because one of the big problems that
you have when it comes to Trump is getting the
documents or the discovery information that you're seeking and not
them cherry pick through the documents before which that they
turned them over. And that's something that the court was
very interested, as are we in terms of learning.
Speaker 1: All right, so let me kind of break this down.
What there was a hearing earlier today, was the hearing
by phone or was it in person?
Speaker 2: Now the hearing was in person before the judge there
at the Southern District of Miami, and in attendance was
Alejandro Brito as well as my counsel, Ben Brodsky was
there in person. Donia Perry was via phone because again
one of the things we were trying to do is
to schedule this. Unfortunately, Brito, who again refused to cooperate
with or be responsive, didn't give Donia any indication that
anything was going forward, whether it be the deposition or
so on. And then just to go down for a
hearing was necessary. So the court was kind enough to
permit her to do her appearance by phone simply because
I had been Brodsky there in Florida to handle, you know,
the the discovery information there in Florida.
Speaker 1: So going into the hearing, though you didn't know your
lawyers didn't know that this other lawyer who Trump just
brought on the team, who entered the appearance, like you
had no clue that that lawyer was going to show up,
that they to make the argument that based on Donald
Trump's desire to potentially invoke his Fifth Amendment right, they
needed to bring in a new lawyer like that just
happened at the hearing hasn't been reported anywhere else.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Yeah, I don't know that. To
be accurate, I wasn't aware of it until like right
before the hearing. But I'm not certain as to when
everybody else knew about it. I knew that they were
bringing on someone else this I knew. I didn't know
if it was for real or not. I think it's
like Chris Kaise or something like that, who they want
to bring in and because his daughter is having a
child right now, that he couldn't make it for tomorrow.
I do know that he was not in the court
in the courthouse today, but it was certainly one of
the comments that was made, you know, to the judge,
and you know, like everybody else, I wish the daughter,
you know, nothing but good things. Unfortunately, I also wish
to have the opportunity to defend myself in a frivolous
five hundred million dollar lawsuit.
Speaker 1: So we all know that name Chris Kaise, If that's.
Speaker 2: Who, I'm not sure. If I'm not sure if that's it,
I can double check in a second. I truly don't remember,
because in all fairness, I really didn't care. I mean,
all I was really looking for is you know, the
determination on when that we will have this deposition, this
court ordered deposition. And again the part of the for
me which I find very comforting, is that in less
than thirty days, we will be deposing Donald Trump, as
the judge stated, come hell or high water. As well
as if this if the documents that they provided, which
unfortunately I have not seen myself, believe it or not,
because Trump's council marked everything privileged, and so that's now
going to create another hearing that has to go in
terms of the determination which documents will or will not
be privileged. Trump is going to have to explain why
he thinks that they should be deemed privileged. The whole
thing is again very typical Trump playbook, you know, delay, delay, delay.
He pushing this thing out more and more and more,
despite the fact as the plaintiff who generally wants to
push the case forward, not Donald he wants to delay everything.
And again, like what he originally wanted, he wanted the
deposition to occur sometime within ninety days post the election.
Speaker 1: So again just kind of breaking it down because there's
a lot of data here for the brigaders and for
anybody you know, to understand, especially those that don't know
the federal court kind of procedures and proceedings. So Donald
Trump sues you for five hundred million dollars, makes a
number of frivolous allegations, and then he fund raises off that.
You respond by filing a motion to dismiss and conducting discovery.
You request production of documents, and you request Donald Trump's deposition.
Donald Trump tries to avoid his deposition. Donald Trump lawyers
claims it would cause him embarrassment. That's actually in the pleading.
It would harm Trump's reputation. And in a case that
Donald Trump brought against you, donald Trump said he didn't
want to sit for that deposition. Ultimately the court said, no,
you're sitting for a deposition. So then Donald Trump's responds
to that as well. I want everything to be designated confidential.
I want blanket privilege. I want blanket confidentiality. The judge
then has to respond to that, and the judge says no,
on a case by case basis, if there are things
that are truly confidential, you can market it could be
subject to challenge, but this is a federal court proceeding.
It is presumptively public. But if you have legitimate confidentiality designations,
go and make those designations. Then after all of that
that takes place, you have a deposition that's scheduled for
September sixth. Donald Trump before the deposition, turns over documents,
but it does and seem like it is a fulsome
and complete document production. And he does exactly what the
judge says, don't do by basically making everything blanket privilege,
even though he's harmed your reputation by filing that lawsuit.
And then Donald Trump has his lawyers show up in
court today and they basically make excuses. And again you
are understanding, of course if someone's daughter is getting married
or whatever the circumstance is, but also you're being sued,
but also you're being sued for five hundred million dollars
and you deserve your day in court and you deserve discovery.
So Trump's lawyers show up, they beg hey, we can't,
we're not ready. This that, every other excuse, this other
lawyer has to we need another lawyer in to deal
with Donald Trump invoking the Fifth Amendment against self incrimination.
And finally the judge after all of that says, come
hell or high water, I'm I'm paraphrasing this deposition will
now be taking place in thirty days, and Donald Trump
file and affidavit that this was a fulsome and complete
discovery and that you've ran search terms and keywords and
all of that. Did I accurately kind of summarize you did?
Speaker 2: The only one thing that I just want to bring
to everybody's attention, and why I was somewhat disappointed, and
the fact that it was pushed out as far as
to October third is because come October second, you may recall,
that's the beginning of the New York Attorney General's case,
and that's when the case goes live. This again, is
something I can see somehow Trump's team trying to take
advantage of Hey, I'm now being sued, and don't forget
I'm expected to be called as a witness in that
case as well. You know this is not the way
it's supposed to be. I mean, we are already know
October second is the date of that case beginning now
it's October third. Will he be able to then say, hey,
I have a right to be there, I'm being charged, which,
of course he will not be the same way he
chose not to be for the Egene Carroll case. But nevertheless,
you know, October second is the start of the Tiss James,
New York Attorney General case against Trump and the Trump organization.
October third is the date for the deposition to take place,
the court order deposition. So one of the things we
talked about last week was the crazy calendar that Donald
is going to have to now contend with for the
next almost year. And this is a perfect example of
their delays, pushing everything into a truncated period which makes
it more and more difficult to effectuate the goal, which
in this specific case was the deposition. So again I
was certainly hoping I had my fingers crossed that the
judge would say, bullshit, you knew well well in advance
that tomorrow is the day that you were supposed to
be deposed. I understand, find a different lawyer if this
lawyer is unable to appear because of a family issue.
And again, as wonderful as it is, and I wish
him and his family nothing, but you know, good things
with the birth of a grandchild that should not affect
this deposition. It just it just shouldn't because they keep
pushing it off again again and again, and who knows
what will happen next. Well, one thing we know is
that the October third deposition date is one day after
the start of the New York Attorney General case. So
again it just goes into the whole issue of what's happening.
And with all of the various cases, four criminal cases,
the civil cases, all of the other matters soon the
e g. Carold case. I mean, these are all smashed
together into a into a truncated calendar because these trials
take time, you know, five six, seven, eight weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, when I talk to people who still support
Donald Trump, I try not to raise my voice, and
they usually will start doing the name calling, and oftentimes
what I just say to them is okay, So if
all of those things that you're saying are true, then
why is it that when they go into a court
room they don't make those arguments. If Donald Trump wants
to sue Michael Cohen for five hundred million dollars and
haul Michael Cohen into a federal court proceeding, and Donald
Trump believes that he has evidence to support that otherwise,
don't file a lawsuit destroying someone's life, And then Michael
Cohen says, okay, Donald, you sued me you've harmed me.
You've harmed my family yet again by doing this. Now, Donald,
I want to go through an evidence based system where
I want to exchange the documents and the facts. And
you're saying, I'm ready to go. Here's the evidence. And
Donald Trump is saying, yeah, my lawyers, sisters, cousins, third cousins,
they're not available. Fifth Amendment, reputation. I'm going to be embarrassed.
Everything's confidential, no camera is there. So as between Michael Cohen,
just as just one example, saying here are the facts,
and Donald Trump running and hiding like a coward in
a case that he filed. That's supposed to be the
big tough guy. Really the guy who's running away right now,
scared shitless because Michael Cohen's asking for his deposition, Are
you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Well, I understand why he would be fearful of a
deposition because you know Donald, as we have seen in
the previous depositions that are both transcribed and videoed. You
know his performance, his ability within which to tell the truth,
and it leaves a lot to be desired if you're
on you know, if you're Donald Trump or his lawyers.
So you know, my I can assure you, between Donia
Perry and Ben Brodsky, we're going to be more than
fully prepared within which to hold him to account on
all of the allegations and all of the specific allegations
that he had made against me in the complaint. And
he's going to have to explain a lot, including the
five hundred million dollar number. Hard to imagine that, you know, I,
or anyone for that matter, could ruin the guy's reputation
or damage his reputation worse than the damage that he
caused himself. I mean, you're talking about a guy who
has now been charged with ninety one different counts. You're
talking about somebody that was impeached twice. You're talking on
somebody who has been indicted four times soon possibly five.
On top of that, somebody who was found guilty of
sexual assault not you know, not only once, but soon
again in the additional defamation portion. You know of this
because he can't keep his mouth shut, a guy who
has historically lied to the American people when he was
President of the United States no less than thirty thousand times.
I mean, I can go on and on and on
about all of the things that damaged the guy's reputation,
you know, me calling him out in terms of the
things that he did, including an unconstitutional remand including things
that are associated to Bill Barr and to you know,
the Southern District of New York prosecutors Jeffrey Berman, who
even states so in his own book, I mean, this
is really it's it's almost laughable. And if it wasn't
that it was Donald Trump with a five hundred million
dollar lawsuit, yeah, it would be laughable.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go through and read that deposition
taken back in April by the New York Attorney General's
Office in connection with the civil fraud case set to
go to trial next month, you see that five hundred million,
two billion, ten billion whatever. Donald Trump basically admitted in
that deposition that he doesn't use appraisals. He says that
it's just common sense. And like Coca cola, he says,
he attributes the value that he thinks that makes sense
to him. And he goes and he said this over
and over again in the deposition under oath. He goes, well,
you know, the Saudis will always come in and buy
it for some ridiculous amount of by.
Speaker 2: Word, it wasn't it. That's scary shit. I mean, that's
really scary stuff that the Saudi's are coming. There's also
a whole thing about Donald allegedly transferring mar A Lago
to Don Junior. But then I read somewhere else that
that wasn't true, that it was somehow made up and
put out there. Who'll put it out there? I have
no idea, So I'm dying to know whether or not
it's true or not. If it is, obviously there'd be
a clawback. But if it's not true, it just goes
to show you the dangers of misinformation, disinformation and malinformation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I suspec that the Don Junior
thing either isn't true regardless. Let's recall there's a financial
monitor who has been appointed in connection with the New
York Attorney General's civil case, so there's someone overseeing those transactions.
So a transaction like that cannot just go under the
radar given the current posture. But we don't even have
to talk about whatever that thing was on Zilo, because
all I have to do is look at what Donald
Trump said in the deposition. What's in the deposition transcript
that's not me? Ben Midas touched saying Donald Trump says
he'll run to the Saudies. No, you know, you can
go watch the full hot take that I did where
we very specifically go through what took place in the deposition.
Our editor in chief Ron Philipkowski of Midas Touch dot
Com did a fantastic overview of the four hundred and
fifty plus page deposition as well, with page numbers and citation.
But over and over again, Donald Trump would say that
he would just make up the valuations that he wanted
and that worse comes to worse, like Turnberry, the Saudis
would come in and pay an outrageous amount for it
and prove that his valuations are correct, that he was
making up. He also stated that Eric has been the
one responsible for the statement of financial conditions for the
past five to six years, and Donald Trump very as
you've always said, Cohen, he's very simple minded. So his
lawyers told him the statute of limitations of kind of
five to six years are what's that issue here? So
the reason that he very specifically chose the years where
he says he wasn't involved and Eric was was to
try to make a statute of limitations claim in the
summary judgment motion that they filed, which his lawyers then
point the finger at Eric. He also claims his NFTs
are worth about eighty two thousand, five hundred each for
some of the NFTs, claims mar A Lago was worth
or is worth one point twenty five billion, that Miami
Durral is worth in the billions, and then he kept
on talking. He kept on talking about the worthless clause
over and over again. In the deposition, he goes, I've
got the worthless clause, and he's referring to I think
the disclaimer, and he believes that the worthless clause means
that it is worthless to rely on his statement of
financial conditions. Quite the contrary, He's an idiot. I think
somebody was giving him advice that the disclaimer is worthless.
The underlying clause is worthless because if you're still committing fraud,
you can't put a clause in your contract that says, yes,
I defrauded you, but it's your fault if you rely
on my fraud. And by the way, if you look
at the actual disclaimer by Maser's, it's actually not a
strong clause for Donald Trump at all. It's a strong
clause for Maser's But Maser says, we relied on him
for everything, so if anything happens, go after him and
not us. That's what the clause is. So that's what
the deposition said, Coled, what would you make of that deposition?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously I've seen it. It's a page and
a half, the very first page and a half of
each and every one of the statement of financial worth
that was produced for him. I think there's a lot
more here than just the disclaimer, and I believe without
getting into the exact sum substance, because this is going
to be an extremely hot topic during the New York
Attorney General's case against the Trump Organization and Donald which
has much to do with these statements of financial condition.
There's a lot more to this than Donald Trump's reliance
on the disclaimer saying that you know, you can't hold
anything inside these documents, you know to be factually accurate,
and you need to do your own due diligence. Yeah,
there is a certain sense to that. However, I don't
think that they're reading it, and I don't think that
they're using that disclaimer the way that it was designed
or the way that the New York Attorney general will
be presenting her case. I think he's very like you
like what you just said. I think he's very much mistaken.
But then again, the biggest problem that he has the
lawyers that are around him there. They don't want to
get into conflict with him. It would be like if
you and I right, you don't want to argue with me,
and so as a direct result, you just agree with
whatever it is that I say, regardless of how idiotic,
moronic and you know, childish, uh the comments are, It
doesn't matter. They're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, Donald. Yeah.
The disclaimer that exonerates you completely. It's a full and
complete exoneration. So what does he do, Well, he goes
to his untrue social platform. Now, he goes to x
formerly Twitter, in all caps, puts I've been I'm fully exonerated.
I have a disclaimer, And he makes these obviously self
serving statements on a regular basis. Of course, he puts
them in all caps because that connotes the seriousness of
the issue and his you know, fervent belief in whatever
it is that he's putting in. It's so stupid. I mean, honestly,
if he had half a brain, he'd be sitting down
right now with the Attorney General and figuring out exactly
how to get himself extricated from this problem for the
least amount of money. Because knowing what I know, and
knowing the level of the misstatements and over the number
of years plus you have penalty and interest that gets accumulated.
You're talking about substantially more and I'm gonna say it again,
substantially more than the baseline of two hundred and fifty
million that Tiss James is seeking. I predict it's going
to be more than twice that amount by the time
that they're finished with him.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not speculating here, because you actually are a witness,
are you in the case?
Speaker 2: Yes? But I don't know I don't know their you know,
I don't know their case. I know the things that
you know have been asked of me and so on,
but nobody has said to me, Hey, look, we're looking
to go for X. I've never had any conversation like that.
Speaker 1: But you're going to go and you testify.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to deduce from questions that I know
were asked of me in information that they're relying on.
Speaker 1: And look, you were deposed as well in that action.
Alina Habbo is the one who took that deposition. You
are going to be a witness when that case goes
to trial as well in the next month. And you know,
one of the things that I wonder as well is
is the Manhattan District Attorney, clearly Alvin Bragg has access
to this deposition transcript. We know that Manhattan District Attorney
Alvin Bragg is continuing to investigate other crimes. He said
so before publicly committed by Donald Trump. Just the order
of priority for Alvin Bragg. He brought the falsification of
business record case first, but that didn't mean he's not
bringing the other case. But now he's got this deposition.
Michael Cohen, I mean, and it's a powerful deposition. And
I know you're a witness, so there may be limitations,
of course on what you can say, but it is powerful. Hypothetically,
if a Manhattan District attorney were focused on some of
the other potential crimes and perhaps as they relate to
what was what was on Trump's taxes, how the financial
fraudulent valuations could have impacted that and could potentially be criminal.
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah. Look, one of the problems. I can't go
into any more than what has already been publicly disclosed
by Alvin Bragg's office, the prosecutors if the Manhattan DA
in this upcoming case, which is now scheduled for March
of twenty twenty four. I mean, I want people to
understand that the October case they're looking at potentially like
an eight week trial, which brings you into December. Then
you know, I know that there's also some other matters
that are outstanding and pending. And then you also have
which will possibly create a conflict. Jack Smith has, you know,
a matter which is also due sometime in March. There's
so much again going back to the calendar, but you know,
one of the things that both the Manhattan DA, the
New York Attorney General, as well as the various different
congressional committees, the seven that I had spoken with, as
well as other agencies. The one thing that I have
completely you know that I do is any time that
I provide a statement on something, I have a document
or they have a document which validates and corroborates my testimony.
Not only do they have this, which is called documentary evidence,
in order to corroborate the information that I'm providing, but
they also have other testimony from individuals that corroborated these
I don't see the necessity for these eight week trials,
especially on something that is just so blatantly obvious. But
then again, you know they're going to start calling a
multitude of witnesses. They're going to put everyone on the stand,
myself of course included, and I suspect that it will
be a nine hour deposition, cross examination by council basically
calling me everything in the world, you know, trying to
impeach my credibility again and again. And the impeachment of
my credibility was only something that you know, Donald and
the GOP and these sick efants ended up someting to do,
whether it was behind closed doors in the Gifts, when
I was testifying before the other committees, or when I
was live before the House Oversight Committee. It's basically to
just damage me as much as they possibly can, and
they're going to try to do that in this upcoming
New York Attorney General case, hoping that then they could
use some of that in order to again harm me
and impeach my credibility when it comes time for the
Manhattan DA case, because that's another one that's making Donald
crap in his diapers, and that's you know, that's a
criminal matter, unlike the you know, Tis James case, which
is a civil matter.
Speaker 1: You know, moments ago, as we were talking about the
civil fraud case brought by New York Attorney General Leticia James,
New York Attorney General Leticia James filed a motion for
sanctions against the defendants in their case, Donald Trump and
his adult kids as well, basically saying that in the
summary judgment motions that were filed by the defendants, by
Trump and his kids and everyone else, they basically recycled
the exact same arguments that were rejected by the court before,
specifically an argument that the New York Attorney General lacks standing,
that the statute is unconstitutional, and other kind of related
things that the judge has already rejected on the law.
But you know, Trump just continues to you know, it
doesn't doesn't bother him, just even if it's you know,
been rejected, Bring it over and over and over again.
But you know, we are marching ever closer to justice
and a trial will take place there. He can try
to run away from all these things and he tries
to run away from your deposition. You know, in the
Eging Carol case, he tried to run away to Ireland
and Scotland, but ultimately justice catches up. And we're seeing
that over and over again. And the American people, I think,
are getting it now, and they're getting it now, especially
where you see the contrast between like on a something
like Labor Day, like what's Donald Trump doing? What's President
Biden doing? What are the supporters of Donald Trump doing?
What are the supporters of President Biden doing? Donald Trump whining, complaining,
obnoxious hate filled lies, President Biden talking about jobs, lowering
prescription drug prices. I want to talk about all of that,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're live political beat down Michael Cohen Ben
my cells one day after Labor Day, and the contrasts
cannot be anymore clear. I want to show you first
Donald Trump's message on Labor Day, and then I want
to compare it to what President Biden was saying on
Labor Day. Then co and I love your reaction to both. First,
let me tell you what Donald Trump said on Labor Day.
Play the clip.
Speaker 4: You're going to hell and your bosses are leading you
right down the tubes. You shouldn't pay your fees. They
get these big fees from all of their workers, and
it doesn't matter how bad they are, they'll endorse a
Democrat even though the Democrats selling you down the tubes.
And I'm telling you you shouldn't pay those dues. You
should not pay your dues because they're selling you to hell.
Speaker 1: You're going to be going to hell.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna have any jobs. All those cars are
going to be made in China, every one of them.
Speaker 2: You can forget it.
Speaker 4: Michigan, you can forget it. South Carolina, you can forget it. Everybody.
All of those cars are going to be made in China.
Speaker 1: Michael Collen, what's here?
Speaker 2: He I see it's it's pathetic. I mean, there's no
other way to describe him. It is pathetic. Now all
of a sudden, he's sitting there, don't pay your dues, right,
Everything's going to be made in China. I mean, it's
so stupid. If you the fact that he could even
put that out thinking that this is smart, that this
is beneficial to him. Again, it's nothing more than sowing
divisiveness in this country. Think about how many times he
used the word hell right. I mean, it's the whole
purpose of Trump's statement is basically to scare the people
who he's scaring. I don't know. And if there is
a single member in any union, regardless of what the
union is, the bricklayers union, the scaffolding union, the auto
workers' union, the you know, carpenters, anyone who is a
union member that would even contemplate for a split second
on voting for Trump needs to have their fucking head examined.
Think about what this guy just put out there. Think
about the statement that he's making. He means, he's guesslighting,
he's blowing that dog whistle all over again. I mean,
I don't even understand what was the part there is
no rationale behind the statement other than to put you
on edge and to make you feel like Joe Biden
is going to cost you your job. And the reason
that he's doing it is because somewhere along the line,
he either read or heard that the Unions are endorsing Democrats,
that the Unions are going to endorse Donald Trump. So,
because he is, in his mind the narcissistic sociopath that
he is, he now needs to get off of his
chest this anger towards the Union for not endorsing him.
And what do you do. You turn and you tried
to create divisiveness within that organization itself pathetic.
Speaker 1: One it can. So let's that was what Donald Trump
said in Labor Day. This is what President Joe Biden's
message was. Let's play this clip.
Speaker 5: We also passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. You can't have
the strongest economy in the world with a second rate infrastructure.
Can you believe we used to have the best infrastructure
in the world and then we fell the number thirteen
in the world. Roads bridges entered the whole deal thirteenth,
the United States of America thirteenth in the world. But
guess what, Guess what? The great real estate builder, the
last guy here. He didn't build a damn thing under
my predecessor. Infrastructure week became a punchline on my watch,
Infrastructure has been a decade and it's a headline. Folks,
we're invested in America, And I wrote bridges ports, you know.
Speaker 1: Good, contrast cannot be clear, unity, can't.
Speaker 2: Be can't be great unity. You're talking about growth, you're
talking about benefiting. Here's the word of the day. Benefiting
all Americans, not just Republicans if you're Donald Trump, not
just only Democrats if you're Joe Biden. But Joe Biden
wanted to benefit all Americans because America, Yes, we have
been on the decline in terms of infrastructure. I mean,
how many times have we seen bridges and tunnels and
roadways collapsing, you know, over time due to climate change
another word that Trump doesn't ever want to talk about.
And so Joe Biden wants to bring back infrastructure past
the Infrastructure Bill, which will help also to reduce the deficit.
You know, good for him, and I again, I don't
understand this animist towards Biden, even by some Democrats, based
upon the age. The guy seems to be doing a
whole lot. Now. There are things that I would like
him to do more, there are things I don't agree with,
But overall, you have to say, whatever it is that
he's trying to do, he truly believes will help all
America and it will unify all Americans as opposed to
the divisive language that just constantly emanates under that gaping
hole under Trump's nose.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's because of social media, or TikTok culture,
or the failure of large media to hold Donald Trump accountable,
a combination of those multiplicity of factors. But to your point,
this kind of raging, acceptable agism is not acceptable at all.
It is disgusting. Yes, is President Joe Biden older and
older gentleman? Yeah, but I want someone who's wise and
calm and compassionate, who surrounds himself with smart people, and
who has implemented If any of these policies you look
back at for the first two years, you would say
any of these policies was historic in nature and scope.
And so when people give me the oh, President Biden
is old and senile, it's like, where are where are
you getting that?
Speaker 2: Also, not forget that he's only a few years. And
when I say a few, I think it's like three
years older than Donald. Interesting interestingly enough, you know during
vacations or holidays, you do see Joe Biden on a bicycle, right,
I'd like to see Trump put his as onto a
bicycle seat. No, you'll find it in a golf cart.
So I mean, it really has to tell you. One guy,
you know, is yeah, let's just say under two fifteen,
and the other guy is above two fifteen. There's no
doubt about that one.
Speaker 1: Let me show you too where I think that stems
from and why I think our work as the Beatdown
Brigade is so critical. Here you mentioned how President Biden
is serving as the president of all Americans. For example,
Florida may have voted against President Biden. You have Ron
DeSantis who spreads hate about President Biden over and over again,
vicious lies, over and over again, this performative fascist outrage
like we saw in the debate and every day. But
when a hurricane hit, President Biden's out there wanting to
help and ready to meet. But Ron DeSantis did not
show up and blamed logistical concerns as why he couldn't
be there with President Biden. The reality is is that
DeSantis simply didn't want to be photographed with President Biden
because Maga Republican is a mutation of pettiness and anger
and grievance and hate. So let me show you. This
is when President Biden was in Florida. What he said
when he was asked, hey, you know, where's DeSantis? What's
your message to him? Play this clip.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be there.
Speaker 5: We're gonna take care of Florida.
Speaker 6: Are you agree with the apparatus enough?
Speaker 5: Do you?
Speaker 1: And the question was do you agree with him that
the security apparatus isn't strong enough and that's why he's
not there? And President Biden's like, do you believe that? So?
What was the headline by the New York Times, Michael Cohen?
Do you think it was the truth, which is DeSantis
is petty and not showing up because he believes it's
a political liability for him in a radicalized Maga base. No,
that's not what the New York Times ran with. Here's
what the New York Times ran with as their headline,
Biden won't meet DeSantis in Florida during tour of hurricane damage.
Though President Biden said earlier on Friday that he would
see Ron DeSantis on Saturday. The governor's office said there
were no plans for a meeting. Now, Michael Cohen, with
the facts that we have, how do you write that headline?
But on the one hand, you have right wing media
like Fox and Newsmax, New York Post oan just injecting
disinformation into people's veins. Right, that's one group. Then you
have the New York Times and the Post doing this.
Speaker 2: So let me be very clear about something. During a hurricane,
during forest fires, during these wildfires and other natural catastrophe,
there is no such thing as Republican. There is no
such thing as Democrat. There is no such thing as independence.
We are all Americans, and our hearts are supposed to
go out like what transpired in Hawaii, what was taking
place in California, what's now taking place in parts of Florida.
I don't care if it's a Republican based area. That's
something Trump did all right, when he was saying, well,
I don't know, I mean, they didn't really vote for me,
so why should I actually go out there? Now? We
are all Americans, and you know, when we are dealing
with these natural catastrophes. We have to be unified. This
is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. And for that,
with all due respect, Rond de Santis gets the two
fucking middle thingers. The two fingers salute goes to Rond
de Santis for being an asshole and a half for
being an un American dirt bag. You do not inter
inject politics when Americans are suffering. That's plain and simple.
The same thing that took place during COVID. It wasn't
just Republicans dying, It wasn't just Democrats dying. It wasn't
just independent it was Americans that were dying. And we
all need to coalesce around each other when the things
get really and we have the right to disagree on policy.
We have the right to disagree on certain you know,
certain bills or issues that are being champion by either party.
But one thing that you don't have the right is
to hope that your fellow Americans suffers as a result
of a natural catastrophe. We all need to be there
for one another, regardless to party affiliation. And the fact
that Ron DeSantis did not reach out to the president,
did not turn around and say together we will walk
these areas, these areas that have been decimated, people who
had lost their lives, you know, homes destroyed, roads destroyed.
What are we going to do in order to assure
that we fix this, We ameliorate the damage that was
done in the most expeditious of manner, and together we
can do that. The fact that DeSantis didn't do that,
it's not a slap to the Democrats, it's not a
slap to President Biden. It's a slap in the face
of all Floridians, especially to the Floridians that are affected
by the disaster. And for that, shame on him, you
fucking idiot. You know.
Speaker 1: But in many ways the New York Times covers for
Ron descent is now. I don't expect the New York
Times to necessarily say we're giving you the two fingers salute,
but it's very easy. But it's very easy to look
at the objective data that exists and to simply put
in your head headline and the story what went down.
You can say President Biden showed up, was ready to
meet Ron de Santis. Ron DeSantis claim there were logistical issues,
which is a suspect claim given the fact that DeSantis
has met before with Shore during disasters, with Donald Trump
and others, and that that was something that would be
easy to address the logistical issues. And you can say
that was questionable excuse by DeSantis if you still want
to be soft on it, but you can accurately just get.
Speaker 2: There that Joe Biden can get there the sanctimonious snot
knows whatever else you want to call him. He could
get there too. I don't care. The resources available to
the governor are limitless in order to get him to
anywhere where this catastrophe took place. This is nothing shy
of him playing politics off of the backs of Americans
who are suffering.
Speaker 1: But New York Times lets him and watching like so
yet Fox News is going to just give.
Speaker 2: You political beatdown. We don't give the books.
Speaker 1: And that's why, and that's why we've created this platform,
you know, and in many ways this platform is now
bigger than those other platforms. And there's a reason why.
I just look at that and I'm like, like, what
in the world are you doing. I saw some other
story from a New York Times writer quote tweeting a
Washington Post writer doing a whole story on Biden's embellishments
and doing a hit piece on like you're doing a
hit piece on Biden's embellishments, Like you realize there's legitimately
a Maga Republican party that wants to overthrow our democracy
and put you in jail, and your energy is directed
at doing a weekend piece on biden embellishments that are
not even verified embellishments. But you're just saying sources have
unconfirmed certain like like, what are you talking about? But
let's talk about outright liar though, like Magga Republicans that
George Santos is not like a fringe figure in the
Maga Republicans, right, He's fully embraced by the Kevin McCarthy's,
by you know, Marjorie Taylor Green. These are leaders of
what the Maga Republican party is now. He's someone who's
of course lied about every single thing in his life,
from where he went to school to where he worked,
to his parents being victims of nine to eleven, to
his grandparents being victims of the Holocaust. The most disgusting
and deranged lied about his religion. There's and then he
started a fake charity where he stole money from homeless veterans,
saying that he was going to put their money to
help get their dogs saved, and then he stole the
money and let their dogs get killed, like like the
worst human. And he's who he's what it means to
be Maga Republican. He runs around, you know, in court
with his pin on, with his AR fifteen pin, you know,
high fiving all of the Magga Republicans. Well, there's some
data today that suggests that what we may be looking
towards is the George Santos saga coming to an end.
And the Department of Justice sent a letter to the
federal judge in the Eastern District of New York. There
was a hearing it was scheduled for this week on
September seventh, but the DOJ requested a continuance. Now, the
DOJ is not wanting to do continuance is just because
and so when you read this letter by the DOJ
to the judge, and the judge granted this extension from
September seventh to October twenty seven, so a twenty day extension.
Here's the basis. Further, the parties have continued to discuss
possible paths forward in this matter. The parties wish to
have additional time to continue those discussions. And so you
know as well as I know Cohen, that means that
they're pretty far along in a plea negotiation. Doesn't mean
they're going to enter one, but that's their close and
what they're buying time for is to consummate a deal
before the next year.
Speaker 2: You see, De Santos is an idiot. There's a big
difference between his stupidity and Donald's stupidity. Donald's stupidity is
based upon his narcissism, so he can never acknowledge the
fact that he did wrong. He got caught. That's the
that's the definition of a narcissist. He obviously cannot acknowledge
that he's ever done anything wrong. De Santos is just
an asshole, and he's an idiot, and he realizes that
he's that is you know that he's cooked. That they
have enough information on multitude of schemes that he was
involved with for him to now say to himself, I
don't want to spend forget about any time in prison.
I don't want to spend the next ten to fifteen
years in prison. And so right now they're trying to
negotiate a deal that is the most favorable to De Santos.
You see, Donald would never do something like that again
because he can never ever acknowledge that he did something wrong.
His brain is just not wired for you know, for that.
Speaker 1: I like that you merged De Santos DeSantis with George Santos.
It is kind of a De Santo's Taylor Green.
Speaker 2: Santos.
Speaker 1: But you know, birds, birds of a feather, what what
I think what I think probably happened as well.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: The DOJ was very strategic in the charges that they
brought against Santos. First, I think it was around you know,
you know, thirteen counts or so, but they have dozens
of other counts that they can bring, and that they
didn't charge him. So I'm sure they went to him
and said, we're about to drop a superseding indictment. If
you thought that one was bad, we'll let you plead
to two of these counts, or we're going to file
a superseded indictment. But when you so, that's reading a
lot between the lines there. I think that's what that's
what's been taking place.
Speaker 2: It would be like one of those infomercials Ben where
it's like George, just wait because there's more. And if
you don't do this, we're gonna throw in this, and
then if you don't do that, we're throwing in two
or three more. And he realizes that he's looking at
a long, long haul. Not to mention he doesn't have
the money within which to fight it, because that's that's
what the DJ do. They they believe you dry and
trust me, you know.
Speaker 1: And and and and here I want to show you
the This is what George Santos was saying after he
was arraigned. This is the kind of Maga mutation language
of victimhood, and they're all out to get us, and
it's all a witch hunt. It is directly from the
top with Donald Trump. When I show you what Santo said,
this could just be Donald Trump speaking. But the other
losers as well, in the Magna mutation group, they don't
get the benefits that he gets, and his time of
accountability is among us, upon us right now as well.
But just watch Santos. But this is not unique to
George Santos. This is like any Republicans speaking to get
me Deep State, we here play this clip of Santos.
Speaker 6: Fight to defend myself.
Speaker 1: The reality is is it's.
Speaker 6: A witch hype because it makes no sense that in
four months, four months, five months, I'm indicted, you have
Joe Biden's entire family receiving deposits from nine nine family
members receiving money from foreign from foreign destinations into their
bank accounts. It's been years of exposing a lot of
you here have reported on them, and yet no investigation
is launching to them. I'm gonna fight you well, and.
Speaker 2: I'm just going getting back to that.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna fight my battle, I'm gonna deliver, I'm gonna
fight the Richard. I'm gonna take care of claring my
name and I look forward to doing.
Speaker 1: That's who the Mega Republican Party is. Final words Michael Cohen,
as we kind of around.
Speaker 2: They what's gonna happen. He's gonna end up pleading because
he's guilty. He knows he's guilty. The lines of bullshit
are very easy when you're standing in front of a microphone, right,
and you don't have the full force and effect of
the United States Department of Justice coming down on you
like a ton of bricks, right. It's one thing even
if like for example, in my book Revenge and I
talk about I never committed tax evasion, and I stand
by I never committed any violation regarding a home equity
line of credit. That's bullshit. Even then, you still can fight,
because what they do is they come down on you
so hard and so fast. The only type of people
who can actually fight the government. Number One, you gotta be.
You gotta have a lot of money, and you gotta
have a lot of for example, like in Trump's case,
a lot of student big people that are just throwing
money in order to protect him legally. If you have that,
well you could stay afloat for a while, but it
doesn't help in the long run. And very soon we're
all going to be listening to Kimberly Gargoyle standing there
and saying the best is yet to come, screaming it
as we watch them turn around and take Santos off
to prison, and then we're going to see the same
shit happen to diaper Donald.
Speaker 1: By the way, don't forget that the grand jury in Washington,
DC is still impaneled, the one that indicted Donald Trump,
and that grand jury said to expire September fifteenth, but
it could be extended again. And Jack Smith still engaged
in criminal investigations of Donald Trump for the fundraising schemes,
potential money laundering, wire fraud, and other crimes, and we'll
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