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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mentioned at the beginning of the show today

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<v Speaker 2>that I have been summoned to appear in jury duty

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<v Speaker 2>in Bullet County, and I feel proud to be selected.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know a lot of people get annoyed,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well I got to go to jury duty, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I received my juror summons yesterday and I opened it

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<v Speaker 2>feeling ready to serve. My community, says dear perspective juror,

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<v Speaker 2>you have been selected to serve as a juror in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bullet County circuit. In the Bullet County courts. You

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<v Speaker 2>are someone to appear at the following place, day and time.

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<v Speaker 2>Failure to appear may result in a finer jail time.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you believe you were disqualified from serving or

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<v Speaker 2>asking to be excused from jury service, or are asking

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<v Speaker 2>that your service be postponed, you must complete, sign, and

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<v Speaker 2>return the enclosed juror qualification form within five days after

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<v Speaker 2>receiving this summons. Also tells me that you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can be Yeah. Says here that failure to comply with

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<v Speaker 2>this summons as punishable as contempt of court Krs twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine at one fifty. That sounds pretty serious if you

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<v Speaker 2>ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be there on Wednesday, September the twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>at nine o'clock in the morning, ready to serve. But

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<v Speaker 2>that did lead to a lot of people sharing some

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<v Speaker 2>jury thoughts, some jury stories, I guess I should say.

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<v Speaker 2>On the text line, this text says, my wife was

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<v Speaker 2>on a dui jury where the police cam showed the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. It was the road my parents live on,

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<v Speaker 2>and one she's driven probably a thousand times. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>very straight road. He was weaving all over the place,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he got to the driveway a block from

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<v Speaker 2>my folks, he claimed that he got home. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>there was no case. There was in fact a case.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess this guy was claiming that he lived there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, a juror could confirm that he

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<v Speaker 2>did not. But they would know that in court already,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't they, Like if if on the and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be embarrassing, right, like if you get a

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<v Speaker 2>DUI and you embarrass yourself other than of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just getting arrested for driving on the influence, which you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't do, but like you make a fool of yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>like being there sober in court seeing yourself drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be tough. Yes, that'd be terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, be tough to see it just yourself. I

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<v Speaker 2>would never want to see it. If that ever happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I shouldn't say ever happened to me,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing would be happening to me. I would be doing

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<v Speaker 2>something that I would be responsible for. It's not like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Bad luck?

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<v Speaker 2>Got a dui, you know what I mean. So, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be tough to see, especially again if you

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<v Speaker 2>made a complete, you know, fool of yourself. What are

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<v Speaker 2>the what are the most common things that people get

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<v Speaker 2>out of jury due to four? Like traveling, probably like

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<v Speaker 2>work assignment.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe like a family emergency or something. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that would be something that should If it's not, it

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<v Speaker 3>should qualify as an excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>This is wild, this says, uh, this was not me,

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<v Speaker 2>But my dad was on a jury for a murder

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<v Speaker 2>trial back in the eighties. He told me most of

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<v Speaker 2>the jury members felt like the guy did it, but

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution did a bad job of presenting of presenting

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence, so they had to acquit him. Six months later,

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<v Speaker 2>he killed someone else and was convicted for murder that

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<v Speaker 2>time around. Damn, that's pretty that's pretty heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>That stinks because like that puts you into the mind

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<v Speaker 3>of some jurors, like you can make up your mind,

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<v Speaker 3>but you also have to kind of go off of

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence presented. If the prosecution sucks, then I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the guy might get lucky as he did, but seems

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<v Speaker 3>like it was undeserving.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what kind of case I'm gonna get.

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<v Speaker 3>But you want the most hardcore stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this as I'm reading some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that came in earlier in the text line, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want any sad stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that could be tough, Like I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough, I'm sensitive enough to things. But like if I am,

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<v Speaker 2>you know one of the However, many jurors there are

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<v Speaker 2>that are responsible for, like you know, determining like a

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes people end up being charged and going to

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<v Speaker 2>trial for crimes that like quite clearly they committed and

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<v Speaker 2>it is against the law, but like you can find

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<v Speaker 2>some rationale as to how that happened, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like that would make it tough. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are countless people, and there are good examples.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure of that. I just can't think of off

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<v Speaker 2>the top of my head here of people who were

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<v Speaker 2>acquitted of a crime that everybody knows did but like

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<v Speaker 2>the jury was like, yeah, we're not gonna we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say that they're guilty because we actually think they

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<v Speaker 2>had good reason to do what they did. I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened many times. This says I was on a

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<v Speaker 2>jury for a custody hearing for a foster parent that

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<v Speaker 2>was accused of sexually Yeah, come on now, sexually abusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I keep reading this?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>This, I read the beginning and I thought it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be too bad. And now I'm going more into

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<v Speaker 2>the full part of the text, and like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that would make me sad, but also maybe there'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of like, yeah, hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This person's guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be on a jury that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the process to putting this son of a

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<v Speaker 2>bitch behind bars.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I wear the suit or no, oh, you're wearing

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<v Speaker 3>the suit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was especially for the most Yeah, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 2>walk in, like I'll show up with a with a

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<v Speaker 2>suit only on one suit by the way. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to buy a suit for my buddy's wedding last year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll show with a suit and a briefcase. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm there to like be a criminal defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm big no here here reporting for jury duty

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<v Speaker 2>on a jaywalking case.

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<v Speaker 3>But I show up prepared. The defense attorney may be

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<v Speaker 3>less stressed up than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this says, And I do love some of those

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<v Speaker 2>memes in TikTok videos where they like they'll they'll show

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<v Speaker 2>like a picture of an attorney that just does not

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<v Speaker 2>look uh, you know, well put together, doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 2>they're about to walk into the courtroom and do the

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<v Speaker 2>damn thing. And they just show pictures. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>your attorney. You're going to jail like this guy. This

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way this guy's going to be a good

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<v Speaker 2>uh a good you know, public defender for you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, last one. And I'm fascinated by this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a true crime junkie myself, which I guess has me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, feeling pretty excited about a potential, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I say potential, I gotta go. I'm gonna show up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess a lot of people in the text

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<v Speaker 2>line have said that they've showed up for jury to

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<v Speaker 2>do only to be sent home. Why do they send

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<v Speaker 2>you home like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it gets settled or somebody gets postponed. This says.

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<v Speaker 2>Some weird ass dude drove fifty miles with a loaded gun,

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<v Speaker 2>texting his X one hundred times that he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill her and her new boyfriend. H he drived,

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<v Speaker 2>drove to the wrong house on the right street, and

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<v Speaker 2>cops wrapped him up right away. Suddenly he wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything. It was pathetic, to be honest. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be there. His ex didn't even want him

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<v Speaker 2>to get in trouble, and they all just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>move on. Weirdest part of all. I ended up finding

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<v Speaker 2>out that I like jury duty. Oh trust me, the

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<v Speaker 2>text line is not full. But there are many that

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<v Speaker 2>have said they did jury duty they found it fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm one of you. I hope it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll find out that it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're reading the verdict. How does that go?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that works? I think the jury decides like collectively,

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<v Speaker 3>who like the spokesperson is for everyone. I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how it works though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then others have said, you know, the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to get out of jury duty is to this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age just to claim you have COVID. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like, actually, if you say, hey, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling well, they're probably just going to go to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how can they prove that? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I guess they wouldn't go to extra lengths and anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>check what do I know?

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like anybody I know of that you

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<v Speaker 2>tried to get out of jury duty was effective in

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of Jerry duty. But why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's always been chalked up as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I got Jerry duty, Like, what would be

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<v Speaker 3>so bad about it? I guess the worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess there's probably many cases that wouldn't be good,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on your personal situation. But if it was an

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't relate to this because I love my job

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean that seriously, and I think people realize

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<v Speaker 2>which we already are here, but like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry duty, not go to work, Like, wouldn't you want.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that?

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<v Speaker 3>If I hated my job, absolutely, I'd much rather be

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just I'm curious as to why it has

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, but maybe I'll learn. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I am going to learn a lot about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I won't be as high on jury duty after

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<v Speaker 2>I have been part of said Jerry.

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<v Speaker 3>With all this talk, I feel like you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be one of those that does don't even have to

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<v Speaker 3>do anything, Like you just show up and they say, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>What if I say, well, could I be on standby

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<v Speaker 2>in case you guys need an extra juror for any

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<v Speaker 2>of these other cases. I'm I'm ready to serve my

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<v Speaker 2>community of Bullet County and here these cases be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be there in the you know, as a jury member

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<v Speaker 2>throughout testimony, evidence, discovery. I'm just throwing out words that

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<v Speaker 2>I hear on law and order, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be the one that you know, decides if this

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<v Speaker 2>person is guilty or not.

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<v Speaker 3>They probably do all the cases in Bullet County at

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<v Speaker 3>like the Hillview Lounge or something, right, you mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>where they took place. That's probably where all the cases

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<v Speaker 3>will take like where the jury will be at Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you mean, like the court case whatever wherever

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<v Speaker 3>it is you're going to be at. No, it's in court.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. I'm just talking. Thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were saying that, like the most of

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<v Speaker 2>the cases will be will involve something that happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be shocked if there if there have been a few, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you never know. Yeah, Look, I love County Line.

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<v Speaker 2>But again I'll say this, you never make plans to

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<v Speaker 2>go there. You end up there. The night takes you.

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<v Speaker 3>There, just like Jerry Duty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mean, I don't know if Jerry Duty

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<v Speaker 2>is going to require the instant stripping of all your

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<v Speaker 2>clothes when you get home and throwing them in the

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<v Speaker 2>washer and then taking a shower. Again, I can say

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<v Speaker 2>it because I'm I'm I'm like, we can take digs

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<v Speaker 2>at Bullet County, John, because we are Bullet County. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, everybody, the County Line is a great place,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's also a place where you can still

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<v Speaker 2>smoke inside.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't do that anywhere in Louisville. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of people who come there just

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<v Speaker 2>knowing they can sit at a barstool and light up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you leave there smelling like an ashtray.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with Kurt Signetti. That may be my place

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<v Speaker 3>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh dude, that's going to be the Indiana watch party.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, I'll call him up and reserve the entire building.

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<v Speaker 2>How many Indiana fans do we have in Bullet County?

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<v Speaker 3>How many?

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<v Speaker 2>How many of there are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>If I had to guess, I'd probably be somewhere less

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<v Speaker 3>than fifteen. And that may be too many.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no way, Bullet County's a big county. Now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I heck, in my street there's two people, one on

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<v Speaker 2>my street, one on a street over that has like

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<v Speaker 2>a Hoosier flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, I guess I just assume everybody's Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 3>that's Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what's wild, and I don't I've never really

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<v Speaker 2>understood it. I would never expect the Kentuckyana area to

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<v Speaker 2>have the trio represented equally Louisville, Kentucky, IU.

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<v Speaker 3>But we do live.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on the river. And Indiana has a humongous fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I know a lot of them aren't here in

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<v Speaker 2>southern Indiana or in Louisville, But like I've never understood

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<v Speaker 2>why Indiana has never really taken off as a distant

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<v Speaker 2>third local that just is always discussed and talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Like clearly there's coverage of IU within our market on television,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think those people do a good job. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I go to New Albany, I see thee but

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<v Speaker 2>louis of Indiana, Louisville and Kentucky fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel you're right, and I get that this may

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<v Speaker 3>just be a shot in the dark, but I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of it is because especially in basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean football for sure, but they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been relevant consistently enough to really be talked about on

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<v Speaker 3>a larger scale when it comes to their history in

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<v Speaker 3>the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But in basketball, like they still they're always good.

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<v Speaker 3>They're always a big deal, and to say good, they're

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<v Speaker 3>always popular among Indiana fans. But if they're not making

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<v Speaker 3>noise like they were in twenty thirteen and even twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, nobody else seems to really talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're right, Like if Indiana was rolling, we

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<v Speaker 2>probably would hear more. Cause again, if you like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're an Indiana fan in the Kentuckian area. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean by that is in Louisville or in southern Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's say from from Jeffersonville to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to Henryville or something like that. Like you probably know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're outnumbered, and the teams that outnumber you as

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<v Speaker 2>far as fans are Kentucky and Louisville fans to where like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know you're outnumbered and you know you're not

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<v Speaker 2>as good as them, you're not gonna be as yeah, boisterous,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I've always always thought that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of odd. How even in southern Indiana, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>as if I you as their team.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, And this is a very small sample size,

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<v Speaker 3>but when I was in elementary school, there was probably

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more Louisville and Kentucky fans right across the

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<v Speaker 3>river where I was, And that was always weird to

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<v Speaker 3>me as a kim, Like why are people cheering for

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<v Speaker 3>the teams that aren't even in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe there could be in somebody's already texted on

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<v Speaker 2>the text line with this, and I think there's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of it. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who live in southern Indiana that grew up in Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>in the state, or in Louisville, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to where like, yeah, it's just there, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>and heck, I know there are at one point. This

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<v Speaker 2>is way back, you know, way back before you and

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<v Speaker 2>hore around long before. You know, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people because of jobs I think in like the sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even as early as the fifties that came from

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<v Speaker 2>far eastern Kentucky and lived in southern Indiana up in

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<v Speaker 2>like Scott County that area to where you know, their

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<v Speaker 2>roots are still Kentucky, to where they're you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's BBN. But you can't escape them.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go anywhere you can't see them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can go to Pluto, you can land

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<v Speaker 2>on the moon. You'll run into some guy in a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville or any.

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<v Speaker 3>Youth's probably aliens in Kentucky shirts that we've never seen before,

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<v Speaker 3>and as soon as you walk by, they'll throw you

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<v Speaker 3>hit that l's down for you, Just throw that l's

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<v Speaker 3>down at you up in space because that they just

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<v Speaker 3>can't control themselves. It's just it's it's a thing, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, Like I always say again, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say this to like make a bad joke,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really not that funny. I'm telling you, wait

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<v Speaker 2>till uh wait till family starts sending out Christmas cards

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, getting the fall pictures done. They'll families

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<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky fans. They'll take a bunch of candid shots,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some just the kids by themselves, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the big family, one with mom in the in the daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>one with dad and the sun, you know, mix it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll make sure they get that family shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody throw those l's down, kids, We got to get

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<v Speaker 2>this one with a Christmas card. Like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's they can't help themselves. They love throwing l's down,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter who they're playing, no matter where they are,

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<v Speaker 2>l's down. It's like a reflex thing, right, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>just can't control it.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we talked to little Basketball yesterday? Because I was just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was once again kind of second guessing myself, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I being a crazy homer here for thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>John Rostein's dorky ass is just completely hating on Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey picking Louisville eleventh in the ACC because I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds ridiculous. But then again, I'm like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>brand new team. You were the worst team in the

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<v Speaker 2>conference the last two years. Yes, you did great in

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, but it's going to take some real proof.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take some real results before people start

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<v Speaker 2>looking at you differently. Because when they think of Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>right now, even though they know you got better because

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you couldn't get worse, they know you got

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<v Speaker 2>better players, they still need to see something before they

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<v Speaker 2>start looking at you as a legitimate team. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's understandable. But then again, look around the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>So I still think Rostein was way off and thinking

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<v Speaker 2>Louislle on paper, it's the eleventh best team in the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen team ACC Basketball League. And to make me feel

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<v Speaker 2>even more so like Rostein is, you know, on some

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<v Speaker 2>nonsense here is to see the Athletic, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's be real, and yes, I'm only saying

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<v Speaker 2>like if John Rostein would have had him at number

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<v Speaker 2>three and the Athletic would have had him at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>number eleven, I would have said the opposite here. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, this is how we're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Athletic is way more legit than Rostein because the

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<v Speaker 2>Athletic has Louisville at number three, big difference when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to eleven. And I'm not saying like they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the third best team. But when we were talking,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking yesterday about just like the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the league, like who you're scared of? Who do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is going to be like really really good? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, me thinking Louisville could be a legitimate top

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<v Speaker 2>five ACC team despite being the worst team in their

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<v Speaker 2>league the last two years is more so to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the league not having anybody you should just be

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<v Speaker 2>scared of like that, That's the way I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Louisville is at number three, with North Carolina number

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<v Speaker 2>one and Duke number I'm sorry, North Carolina number two,

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<v Speaker 2>Duke number one, No real surprise there. And then again

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville at number three. Number four is Miami, Number five

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<v Speaker 2>is wake Forest six, Pittsburgh seven, Georgia Tech eight, Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>nine Virginia. That's a little surprising, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Bennet hasn't really been good in a while. Number

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<v Speaker 2>ten in c State, So you know, these preseason rankings

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<v Speaker 2>in basketball, just like football, don't really mean anything because

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as the season actually starts, you forget all

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<v Speaker 2>about it. You have results, you can get a feel

425
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<v Speaker 2>for really where you are, and you're not even referencing

426
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<v Speaker 2>or thinking of any off season, preseason rankings, whatever you

427
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<v Speaker 2>want to call them. But I would say if you,

428
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you look at Louisville at number three

429
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<v Speaker 2>and think that's being a little too bullish on Pat

430
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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's first team, and you look at number eleven and

431
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<v Speaker 2>think that's like two simistic put them at five or six,

432
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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, I could, I could totally.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's you know, anywhere between honestly, anywhere between

434
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<v Speaker 2>four and seven. I think would have been no reaction, like, yeah,

435
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<v Speaker 2>I could kind of see that. But I will say this,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was surprised to see them at number three,

437
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<v Speaker 2>But also again, when I look at the rest of

438
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<v Speaker 2>this league, and I look at what Pat Kelsey's brought

439
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<v Speaker 2>in from a personnel standpoint, and I've watched this team play,

440
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<v Speaker 2>and I know they played nobody in the Bahamas that

441
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<v Speaker 2>is going to give you a similar look that the

442
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<v Speaker 2>ACC is gonna give you. But they mean, the personnel,

443
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<v Speaker 2>the way they're going to play, their style of play,

444
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<v Speaker 2>the balance and depth that they have, Like, there's no

445
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<v Speaker 2>reason why they can't be a top five team in

446
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<v Speaker 2>this league.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get to a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side, and again we'll

449
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<v Speaker 2>talk about this G five meeting that's going to take place.

450
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bad idea, but you know, maybe

451
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<v Speaker 2>they're just looking out for themselves. Also, if you're a

452
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<v Speaker 2>sports better like myself, you're gonna end up having to

453
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<v Speaker 2>pay the price in this fallout of fan duel and

454
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<v Speaker 2>DraftKings not adding a surcharge. So we can get into

455
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<v Speaker 2>that at and we'll keep the party rolling along. We're

456
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<v Speaker 2>taking you up till six o'clock. Right here, Coffee and

457
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<v Speaker 2>Company fil about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. It's

458
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<v Speaker 2>good Kanye West here. I missed good Kanye West. I

459
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<v Speaker 2>mean I can still find his music, but I don't

460
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<v Speaker 2>think we're gonna get many. Well, everybody's got their own preference.

461
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<v Speaker 2>But the Kanye that I really enjoyed as an artist

462
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<v Speaker 2>and as a talented creative artist, I don't think that

463
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<v Speaker 2>guy's with us anymore.

464
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<v Speaker 3>If you know, what I mean. Yeah, he's. He seems

465
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<v Speaker 3>to have changed his personality, identity, whatever you want to

466
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<v Speaker 3>call it, a few different times throughout his.

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<v Speaker 2>WORL and like I now don't believe he's. I don't

468
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<v Speaker 2>believe he's when he says things, I don't think he's.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Any of this is for attention. Like I think he's

470
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<v Speaker 2>just not there, like you know what I mean, like.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got something wrong with them type of thing.

472
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<v Speaker 2>And there's been someone I don't know who it was.

473
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<v Speaker 2>There was somebody I think used to be a publicist,

474
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<v Speaker 2>used to be somebody that was in his in his entourage,

475
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<v Speaker 2>a paid staffer for you know, the AA world, And

476
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<v Speaker 2>they've come out and basically said, somebody needs to help

477
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<v Speaker 2>him because the people that he's is with our helping

478
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<v Speaker 2>him obtain some type of medication that's like, you know,

479
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<v Speaker 2>I guess, frying his brain. But anyways, that was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Kanye West, all Right, I just did a record. I

481
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<v Speaker 2>just recorded a commercial during the break for a for

482
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<v Speaker 2>a you know, and an ed company we're about to

483
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<v Speaker 2>bring on. And man, I'm I'm we're gonna finish strong John.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Let me just put it that way. Let's just doing

485
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<v Speaker 2>the read as me fired up ready to I mean,

486
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<v Speaker 2>because you got to be really energetic. You know, I'm

487
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<v Speaker 2>trying because I told you how bad I wasn't recording

488
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<v Speaker 2>commercials a couple of weeks ago. So now I'm trying

489
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<v Speaker 2>to trying to find my inner Tony Venetti and just

490
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<v Speaker 2>you know.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Like really deliver like to my game is on.

492
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<v Speaker 2>It was Bat's commercial, which is legendary. The best part

493
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<v Speaker 2>of an Eddi's commercial is a key. They'll give you

494
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<v Speaker 2>copy and really it depends on how you deliver, how

495
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<v Speaker 2>you read. But more often than not, if they want

496
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<v Speaker 2>a thirty the copy is too long and you have

497
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<v Speaker 2>to or they give you a sixty in the copy

498
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<v Speaker 2>not sixty seconds, so you got to fill. And Venetti

499
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<v Speaker 2>has just a gift of like saying the same thing

500
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<v Speaker 2>like five dollars, that's right, five dollars and just like

501
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<v Speaker 2>you know, ad living some of the commercial to where

502
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<v Speaker 2>he fits it right in in sixty seconds. That's why

503
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<v Speaker 2>he's the best at delivering commercials. I don't think we'll

504
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<v Speaker 2>ever see anybody in this business better than the Walking infomercial,

505
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<v Speaker 2>The Walking whoor that is Tony Vinetti my idol. All right,

506
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<v Speaker 2>so quick, college basketball slash NBA numbers to share with

507
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<v Speaker 2>you that I found to be interesting. So this College

508
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<v Speaker 2>Basketball Report Twitter account. They do put out some pretty

509
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<v Speaker 2>interesting content every now and then. But they have the

510
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<v Speaker 2>all time points leaders NBA's all time points leader board

511
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<v Speaker 2>by college and their highest scorer. So probably not a

512
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<v Speaker 2>shock to Kentucky fans that in the NBA Kentucky players

513
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<v Speaker 2>have scored more points than any other college. That didn't

514
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<v Speaker 2>surprise you, right, John, I mean they've no, They've put

515
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<v Speaker 2>a ton of guys in the league over the years,

516
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<v Speaker 2>but Dan Hissel still is the guy who has the

517
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<v Speaker 2>most the most points. So he is the all time

518
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<v Speaker 2>leading scorer for Kentucky in you know, in the NBA,

519
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<v Speaker 2>and I think he is as well at Kentucky. So

520
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<v Speaker 2>like Michael Jordan is at number two for Carolina, he

521
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the all time leading scorer for North Carolina because

522
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<v Speaker 2>he didn't play there four years, but he is the

523
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<v Speaker 2>all time leading scorer obviously in the NBA for Carolina.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Number three UCLA Kareem abdul Jabbar. Number four is Duke

525
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<v Speaker 2>as far as the amount of you know, NBA points

526
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<v Speaker 2>from the Duke Blue Devil program. But the guy who

527
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<v Speaker 2>has scored the most. This confirms something I've always believed

528
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<v Speaker 2>but never really and this doesn't prove it. But Duke

529
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<v Speaker 2>for being Duke. Some of their best college players, the

530
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<v Speaker 2>guys you remember that really were big as far as

531
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<v Speaker 2>the Dukie brand won titles or a title part of

532
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<v Speaker 2>special teams. They didn't end up having like great careers

533
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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, like you kind of still think of them, Like,

534
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<v Speaker 2>for example, JJ Reddick had a hell of a career

535
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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA. He did, he was a good player

536
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<v Speaker 2>for many years. And he also, you know, is now

537
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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers coach. But I can't be the only one

538
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<v Speaker 2>that when I think of j Rieddick, I still think

539
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<v Speaker 2>of him at Duke just because he was he was

540
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<v Speaker 2>the face of college basketball. He was a great villain,

541
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<v Speaker 2>and he was literally an unbelievable player. So Duke has

542
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<v Speaker 2>put a lot of guys in the league. Again, they're

543
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<v Speaker 2>number four on this list, but their leading scorer in

544
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA is Kyrie Irving. Like maybe I'm not giving

545
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<v Speaker 2>Kyrie enough credit for being, you know, the great player

546
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<v Speaker 2>that he was, But I don't know, like I would

547
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<v Speaker 2>have expected it to be somebody else. I mean, Kyrie

548
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<v Speaker 2>only played five games at Duke before he got hurt

549
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, didn't play. But yeah, like the best

550
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<v Speaker 2>Duke players that I can think of in my lifetime,

551
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<v Speaker 2>they they haven't gone on to be like like Zion

552
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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to do that. But here we are,

553
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<v Speaker 2>what fire five years into the Zion era and he's

554
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<v Speaker 2>kind of yet to really escape the Yeah, the guy's

555
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<v Speaker 2>pretty good when he can play. And there's also some

556
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<v Speaker 2>guys who are really good that just you know it.

557
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<v Speaker 2>It didn't hit like Sheldon Williams was.

558
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<v Speaker 3>Great at Duke.

559
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<v Speaker 2>He was a flame out of the NBA. I mentioned

560
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<v Speaker 2>Reddick Jay Williams. I'm gonna say this, Jay Williams is

561
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<v Speaker 2>no is not exactly, you know, a super popular guy

562
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<v Speaker 2>in the media world. I don't feel like he is.

563
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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know a lot of people don't really

564
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<v Speaker 2>care for him. But he was so good as a player.

565
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<v Speaker 2>Like anytime I criticize something he said as an analyst,

566
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<v Speaker 2>and it's never personal, although sometimes I do think he

567
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<v Speaker 2>had like he did some Kenny Payne stuff that was

568
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<v Speaker 2>a little much. And again I talked about it. When

569
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<v Speaker 2>he does games as a color analyst, he thinks he's

570
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<v Speaker 2>doing a radio show instead of doing an actual game

571
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<v Speaker 2>and it pisses me off. So I'm not a big

572
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<v Speaker 2>fan of him in that world. But he was a

573
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<v Speaker 2>bad man at Duke. Honestly, straight up, Him and JJ

574
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<v Speaker 2>Reddick are the two best Duke players I've ever seen.

575
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<v Speaker 2>Carlos Boozer really good player at Duke, but like you know,

576
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<v Speaker 2>decent NBA player, Sean Battie, a journeyman in the league,

577
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<v Speaker 2>Elton Brand. I'm actually surprised Elton Brand's not the all

578
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<v Speaker 2>time leading scorer for Duke. Grant Hill, that's one he

579
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 2>had a great career. Who else, Bobby Hurley, that's before

580
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<v Speaker 2>my time, Laatener we all know how that worked out.

581
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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, I just I've always felt like Duke is

582
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<v Speaker 2>deserving of being up there because of what they've done,

583
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<v Speaker 2>mostly in fact, all of it was Shoyzhsky, right, However,

584
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<v Speaker 2>like I don't feel like any like have they ever

585
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<v Speaker 2>had a guy that was the face of the NBA.

586
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's a hard standard to hit because how

587
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<v Speaker 2>many guys can ever actually say they were the face

588
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<v Speaker 2>of the NBA at any point, But like with Kentucky,

589
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>they certainly can. Michael Jordan obviously, Kream, Abdul Jabbar Kansas

590
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<v Speaker 2>is number five. They've got Wilt Chamberlain. They can certainly

591
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<v Speaker 2>say that. So those are your top five.

592
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<v Speaker 3>And again.

593
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<v Speaker 2>UCLA is weird here just because UCLA is you know,

594
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<v Speaker 2>their history is really just one era that was so

595
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<v Speaker 2>long ago. And I feel like if we're gonna like

596
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<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime, I'm thirty six years old, UCLA has

597
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 2>two two, maybe one title in my lifetime, So like

598
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like it's really it's disingenuous to

599
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 2>continue to claim that they are one of the elite program.

600
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<v Speaker 3>Like it's been.

601
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<v Speaker 2>And again there's what makes it, what makes it easily dismiss.

602
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<v Speaker 2>It's easy to dismiss for people that like, no, they

603
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<v Speaker 2>still count because they're not irrelevant, like they're like they

604
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<v Speaker 2>were in the Champion, they were in the final four

605
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<v Speaker 2>not that long ago, like they're every now and then.

606
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good. But like it, when it comes to

607
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<v Speaker 2>being a program that is mentioned as the elite of

608
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<v Speaker 2>the elite, you know, how can you claim that they

609
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<v Speaker 2>are one of those whenever their their last title came

610
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<v Speaker 2>in ninety five. Before that, they hadn't won one in

611
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<v Speaker 2>twenty years since nineteen seventy five, So like they're always

612
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<v Speaker 2>going to be an outlier just because they're different. They

613
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<v Speaker 2>won so many titles so long ago, and they made

614
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<v Speaker 2>final fours in the two thousands, Like it'd be easy

615
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<v Speaker 2>to just write them off and not consider them if

616
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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have those final fours during the bin Halan era.

617
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Help Nick Cronin took them to a final four. But like,

618
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<v Speaker 2>they so don't belong with the rest of these five

619
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<v Speaker 2>other than the fact that they won so many titles

620
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<v Speaker 2>with Wooden. So again, wouldn't you say if you asked

621
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<v Speaker 2>the most casual college basketball fan that has just enough

622
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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of the sport to be dangerous, if you asked

623
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<v Speaker 2>them to say, all, right, five best programs of all

624
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<v Speaker 2>time in some order, they would say those five, would

625
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<v Speaker 2>they not? Yeah, that's fair Kentucky, Carolina do UCLA in Kansas.

626
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that they would even say UCLA for

627
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<v Speaker 3>That's what I.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Mean though, Yeah, yeah, you're right, because you know, you'd

629
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<v Speaker 2>have to be a casual old because again, their last

630
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<v Speaker 2>they've won.

631
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<v Speaker 3>They'd almost say Yukon before Ucla.

632
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<v Speaker 2>So if you're fifty years old, you can still claim

633
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<v Speaker 2>you've only seen one title for you for UCLA, Like,

634
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's crazy not. Yeah, So the rest of

635
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>this and I'm not going to read the whole list,

636
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>but the top five is pretty predictable. As far as

637
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the programs six through ten, I wouldn't say that it's like,

638
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<v Speaker 2>you know, super surprising, but Michigan came in at number six.

639
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>That really did surprise me because I can't think of

640
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<v Speaker 2>many guys in the NBA that played at Michigan that

641
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<v Speaker 2>were like all time greats.

642
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Is it the Fab Five? Pretty much?

643
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

644
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean tier I mean, but only one of the

645
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Fab two of the Fab five ended up having like

646
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>legitimate careers in the NBA that would be remembered, and

647
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>that's Jalen Rose and Chris Webber, which, by the way,

648
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were they were great when they were great.

649
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>You have Glenn Rice as well, who had who had

650
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a long run way back in the day.

651
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 3>He had Lewis Bullock.

652
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<v Speaker 2>But the all time leading scorer in the NBA from

653
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<v Speaker 2>Michigan kind of a trick question, not really a trick question.

654
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 3>This guy played for.

655
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<v Speaker 2>A long time and he was really good, but nobody

656
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<v Speaker 2>like I bet I would be willing to bet that

657
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 2>notable NBA player that people know remember, they know he

658
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>was a journeyman. They you know he played in the

659
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 2>league forever. In fact, Jamal Crawford played for twenty seasons.

660
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<v Speaker 2>I bet a lot of people who know a lot

661
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>about his pro career, if put on the spot, would

662
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<v Speaker 2>not be able to tell you that he went to

663
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<v Speaker 2>Michigan because he's only there one year and it was

664
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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety nine when he was there. So he's

665
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<v Speaker 2>their all time leading scorer. I mean, I would imagine

666
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Chris Webers probably probably was the guy when he retired,

667
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>But Crawford played for again twenty years in the NBA.

668
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>He still looks the same as he did when he

669
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<v Speaker 2>got drafted. Indiana is at number seven, John, and I

670
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<v Speaker 2>have no problem in admitting this. I have never heard

671
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<v Speaker 2>of the guy who is their all time leading scorer

672
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA. Might be because you know, he was

673
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>born in nineteen thirty nine and he played in Indiana

674
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen fifty eight to nineteen sixty one. But he

675
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<v Speaker 2>was the first overall pick. Walt Bellamy.

676
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know Walt Bellamy had no idea he was

677
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<v Speaker 3>an Indiana guy. No shit, did I say that. I

678
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<v Speaker 3>think it was we'll dumb, but just in case, I

679
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 3>can't believe I did that. We're back though, sorry about that.

680
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I said it, but you made the

681
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 2>right call, and it just we'll move on because we

682
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of time left anyway. I'm a

683
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 2>little irritated at myself because I think that's only the

684
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>second time that's ever happened to me and radio. Really

685
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 2>just mid conversation, I said a curse word, but I

686
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I fully said it.

687
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 3>But still it was close. It was very close. Definitely

688
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the full.

689
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you didn't like you didn't miss out on me,

690
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 2>just like oh, I wonder what he said it was

691
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<v Speaker 2>at R rated No. I just instead of saying no,

692
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>no way, I said no sh But I think I

693
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<v Speaker 2>actually got more.

694
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<v Speaker 3>Of the three quarters. Yeah, exactly exactly.

695
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Walt Bellamy is Indiana's and then we'll round

696
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 2>out the top ten here and I'll tell you where

697
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Louisville came in. Arizona's number eight, Jason Terry is their

698
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>all time leading scorer, Ohio state number nine, John Haletchik,

699
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and then Michigan State number ten, and that is Zacharandolph.

700
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>A lot of big ten representation here, all right, so Louisville,

701
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>it looks as if came in at right around twenty.

702
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 2>They don't have it numbered here, but I think it's twentieth.

703
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 2>And there's no real surprise that their leading scorer all

704
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<v Speaker 2>time is Darryl Griffith, and it will be Donovan Mitchell

705
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>unless something crazy happens, because Donovan, of course is you know,

706
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is on pace. I'm sure to break that before too long.

707
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but like what Donov

708
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell's done as an NBA player as far as numbers right,

709
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>obviously nobody's gonna nobody's surprised to hear that he's a

710
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>great player in regards to like, you know, he's clearly

711
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>an all star. But like for him to get more

712
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>love at the top of the NBA, he needs to

713
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 2>like take a team to the finals, which is easier

714
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 2>said than done. But I mean, if you just go

715
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>look like, I think even Lowell fans would be surprised

716
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to cease to see statistically just how amazing Donovan has

717
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>been as a pro from a numbers perspective. All right,

718
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>quick break, We'll come back on the other side and

719
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<v Speaker 2>finally get to something I've been mentioning but haven't really

720
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>discussed and there may not be a whole lot more

721
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>to add to it. But the G five are they

722
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 2>reading the room? Are they going to kind of are

723
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<v Speaker 2>they gonna be the ones that actually create this separation

724
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 2>between highest levels of college football? And then you know them,

725
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>we'll see it. Sounds like they're going to talk about

726
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>it next week. All right, one more segment to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's right here on

728
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety. No more curse words, I'm sorry. So,

729
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<v Speaker 2>throughout the college Football Playoff era, meaning the era where

730
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you just got four teams in the only G five

731
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>team that made it was Cincinnati, and they're not even

732
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>G five anymore. They've moved up to the Big twelve.

733
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<v Speaker 2>So it's not really a surprise to see that there's

734
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<v Speaker 2>going to be a potential new college football playoff that

735
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<v Speaker 2>features the G five teams that are not you know,

736
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<v Speaker 2>that are not from the Power four, which of course

737
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that used to be called, you know, the the Power five.

738
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<v Speaker 2>So in a way, I feel like, if you initiate

739
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing and you create your own version of

740
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>your own playoff that features teams from the American Conference, Usa,

741
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the mac Mountain West, and Sun Belt. I mean that's

742
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 2>basically letting the power, you know, the powers of the

743
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>powers the powerful people, I should say at the College

744
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff know that, like you, you know, you're kind

745
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>of confirming you'll never get more than one. But then again,

746
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like this is about survival, and if they could still

747
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.039
<v Speaker 2>have one team get in and then they do their

748
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>own thing and it's a big television deal that brings

749
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 2>more money to be shared among that level of college football,

750
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what they need to do. I mean, it's about

751
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>survival at this point. And I think just the G

752
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 2>five just sitting aside, existing in irrelevance and knowing that

753
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 2>only one of their teams is going to get a

754
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>shot like that wouldn't really be a fun way to

755
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>go about it. I mean, to be honest with you,

756
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 2>who's left in the G five as a team that

757
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>you feel like just doesn't like it just doesn't make sense.

758
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean I kind of feel like we've already had

759
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it weed out, you know what I mean, Like the

760
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that now Cincinnati, Central Florida and.

761
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:50.800
<v Speaker 3>BYU and Houston.

762
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like I kind of feel, you know,

763
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yukon's independent in football, but like they don't matter. I mean,

764
00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, weird they could be included in this too.

765
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>And here let me tell you this. I would be

766
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 2>willing to bet that if they did a G five

767
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 2>college football playoff on its own, I bet that they

768
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>would be a part of that because the last conference

769
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 2>they were in was the American And you know, I mean,

770
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess they'd be. They'd be lucky to get in.

771
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Like if you're independent in football and you're not Notre Dame, what.

772
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Are you doing? Like, like, what are you doing? The other?

773
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Air Force is obviously a part of the Mount West.

774
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<v Speaker 3>But the other two no, that's right, Arey and Navy

775
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 3>part of c USA.

776
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Now are Navy is in the American Okay? Army I

777
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

778
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 3>So for a while that they were all independent as well.

779
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Now you're gonna be curious. Yeah, Army is in the

780
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>AAC as well, So both Army and.

781
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Navy are there. Okay.

782
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like I want to say Memphis, but that like Memphis,

783
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and I guess honestly it would be Memphis, that would

784
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>be my guess because and it's not because of some

785
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>great historic college football history they have. It's just that

786
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 2>they you know, they've been in conferences with Louisville here

787
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and there throughout and of all thes that have gotten

788
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>a chance to get to get plucked and move on

789
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they've never been there. It just has

790
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 2>always kind of surprised me because look, they got they

791
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>got fed X money. I mean, like if Memphis had

792
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:16.119
<v Speaker 2>put it this way, if Memphis was in the ACC,

793
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think their ceiling would be higher than

794
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>many of the current teams in the league, including like

795
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Boston College and Wake Forest Duke, even when it comes

796
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<v Speaker 2>to football specifically, just because again like they there's it's

797
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>a huge city or a big city, I should say,

798
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they do have a fan base and

799
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<v Speaker 2>they've got fed X money when it comes to nil.

800
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<v Speaker 2>And if they were if they were in a better league,

801
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 2>that put them in a more in a better position

802
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>to just you know, be on national television. That kind

803
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff would help them in recruiting certainly, Like I

804
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 2>could see where they would be, you know, like I

805
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>could see them in the middle of the pack a

806
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>SEC teams. I would say them as far as the

807
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 2>one school that you know, if they did get an invite,

808
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 2>they would kind of fit and nobody would say how

809
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the hell they get up to this level. So anyways,

810
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>there reason I'll bring it up is because Ross Dellinger

811
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<v Speaker 2>of Yahoo Sports is reporting that there's going to be

812
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>a meeting next week, I believe in Dallas with the

813
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>G five commissioners to discuss putting together some you know,

814
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 2>if they want to put together their own playoff. And

815
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I would imagine this is more not to say, hey,

816
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 2>we're doing this because we're being shut out. It's probably

817
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>just reading the room and like knowing, hey, we need

818
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to do more and more things to put more potential

819
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<v Speaker 2>revenue in our pockets. And this will clearly not be

820
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the we'd be nothing close to the college football playoff

821
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 2>that we know is going to be the twelve team

822
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 2>playoff now, but like it would still be a TV

823
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 2>event that we would watch, and you would have advertisers,

824
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and it would be you know, bit official for them

825
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>to do it. But I also think you gotta be

826
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>careful because you're kind of telling on yourselves. Yeah, we

827
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<v Speaker 2>don't belong with you guys, we know it, which is true.

828
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<v Speaker 2>So maybe more than anything, I should just tip the

829
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<v Speaker 2>cap and say bravo for being self aware all right,

830
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<v Speaker 2>we're out of time. Back at it tomorrow for a Friday.

831
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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you guys will join us right here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety
