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Speaker 2: So I mentioned at the beginning of the show today
Speaker 2: that I have been summoned to appear in jury duty
Speaker 2: in Bullet County, and I feel proud to be selected.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know a lot of people get annoyed,
Speaker 2: Oh well I got to go to jury duty, not me.
Speaker 2: I received my juror summons yesterday and I opened it
Speaker 2: feeling ready to serve. My community, says dear perspective juror,
Speaker 2: you have been selected to serve as a juror in
Speaker 2: the Bullet County circuit. In the Bullet County courts. You
Speaker 2: are someone to appear at the following place, day and time.
Speaker 2: Failure to appear may result in a finer jail time.
Speaker 2: Even if you believe you were disqualified from serving or
Speaker 2: asking to be excused from jury service, or are asking
Speaker 2: that your service be postponed, you must complete, sign, and
Speaker 2: return the enclosed juror qualification form within five days after
Speaker 2: receiving this summons. Also tells me that you know you
Speaker 2: can be Yeah. Says here that failure to comply with
Speaker 2: this summons as punishable as contempt of court Krs twenty
Speaker 2: nine at one fifty. That sounds pretty serious if you
Speaker 2: ask me.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be there on Wednesday, September the twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock in the morning, ready to serve. But
Speaker 2: that did lead to a lot of people sharing some
Speaker 2: jury thoughts, some jury stories, I guess I should say.
Speaker 2: On the text line, this text says, my wife was
Speaker 2: on a dui jury where the police cam showed the
Speaker 2: whole thing. It was the road my parents live on,
Speaker 2: and one she's driven probably a thousand times. It's a
Speaker 2: very straight road. He was weaving all over the place,
Speaker 2: and when he got to the driveway a block from
Speaker 2: my folks, he claimed that he got home. Okay, so
Speaker 2: there was no case. There was in fact a case.
Speaker 2: So I guess this guy was claiming that he lived there,
Speaker 2: and then you know, a juror could confirm that he
Speaker 2: did not. But they would know that in court already,
Speaker 2: wouldn't they, Like if if on the and by the way,
Speaker 2: that would be embarrassing, right, like if you get a
Speaker 2: DUI and you embarrass yourself other than of course, you know,
Speaker 2: just getting arrested for driving on the influence, which you
Speaker 2: shouldn't do, but like you make a fool of yourself,
Speaker 2: like being there sober in court seeing yourself drunk.
Speaker 3: That would be tough. Yes, that'd be terrible.
Speaker 2: I mean, be tough to see it just yourself. I
Speaker 2: would never want to see it. If that ever happened
Speaker 2: to me, and I shouldn't say ever happened to me,
Speaker 2: nothing would be happening to me. I would be doing
Speaker 2: something that I would be responsible for. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Bad luck?
Speaker 2: Got a dui, you know what I mean. So, but man,
Speaker 2: that would be tough to see, especially again if you
Speaker 2: made a complete, you know, fool of yourself. What are
Speaker 2: the what are the most common things that people get
Speaker 2: out of jury due to four? Like traveling, probably like
Speaker 2: work assignment.
Speaker 3: Maybe like a family emergency or something. I feel like
Speaker 3: that would be something that should If it's not, it
Speaker 3: should qualify as an excuse.
Speaker 2: This is wild, this says, uh, this was not me,
Speaker 2: But my dad was on a jury for a murder
Speaker 2: trial back in the eighties. He told me most of
Speaker 2: the jury members felt like the guy did it, but
Speaker 2: the prosecution did a bad job of presenting of presenting
Speaker 2: the evidence, so they had to acquit him. Six months later,
Speaker 2: he killed someone else and was convicted for murder that
Speaker 2: time around. Damn, that's pretty that's pretty heavy.
Speaker 3: That stinks because like that puts you into the mind
Speaker 3: of some jurors, like you can make up your mind,
Speaker 3: but you also have to kind of go off of
Speaker 3: the evidence presented. If the prosecution sucks, then I guess
Speaker 3: the guy might get lucky as he did, but seems
Speaker 3: like it was undeserving.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of case I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3: But you want the most hardcore stuff.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this as I'm reading some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that came in earlier in the text line, I
Speaker 2: don't want any sad stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be tough, Like I got.
Speaker 2: Enough, I'm sensitive enough to things. But like if I am,
Speaker 2: you know one of the However, many jurors there are
Speaker 2: that are responsible for, like you know, determining like a
Speaker 2: like sometimes people end up being charged and going to
Speaker 2: trial for crimes that like quite clearly they committed and
Speaker 2: it is against the law, but like you can find
Speaker 2: some rationale as to how that happened, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like that would make it tough. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are countless people, and there are good examples.
Speaker 2: I'm sure of that. I just can't think of off
Speaker 2: the top of my head here of people who were
Speaker 2: acquitted of a crime that everybody knows did but like
Speaker 2: the jury was like, yeah, we're not gonna we're not
Speaker 2: gonna say that they're guilty because we actually think they
Speaker 2: had good reason to do what they did. I'm sure,
Speaker 2: that's happened many times. This says I was on a
Speaker 2: jury for a custody hearing for a foster parent that
Speaker 2: was accused of sexually Yeah, come on now, sexually abusing.
Speaker 3: Should I keep reading this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: This, I read the beginning and I thought it wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna be too bad. And now I'm going more into
Speaker 2: the full part of the text, and like, this is
Speaker 2: something that would make me sad, but also maybe there'd
Speaker 2: be a part of like, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: This person's guilty.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on a jury that is, you know,
Speaker 2: part of the process to putting this son of a
Speaker 2: bitch behind bars.
Speaker 3: Should I wear the suit or no, oh, you're wearing
Speaker 3: the suit?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was especially for the most Yeah, Like I'll
Speaker 2: walk in, like I'll show up with a with a
Speaker 2: suit only on one suit by the way. I had
Speaker 2: to buy a suit for my buddy's wedding last year.
Speaker 2: But I'll show with a suit and a briefcase. They'll
Speaker 2: think I'm there to like be a criminal defense attorney,
Speaker 2: But I'm big no here here reporting for jury duty
Speaker 2: on a jaywalking case.
Speaker 3: But I show up prepared. The defense attorney may be
Speaker 3: less stressed up than you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this says, And I do love some of those
Speaker 2: memes in TikTok videos where they like they'll they'll show
Speaker 2: like a picture of an attorney that just does not
Speaker 2: look uh, you know, well put together, doesn't look like
Speaker 2: they're about to walk into the courtroom and do the
Speaker 2: damn thing. And they just show pictures. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: your attorney. You're going to jail like this guy. This
Speaker 2: There's no way this guy's going to be a good
Speaker 2: uh a good you know, public defender for you. Uh,
Speaker 2: all right, last one. And I'm fascinated by this stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm a true crime junkie myself, which I guess has me,
Speaker 2: you know, feeling pretty excited about a potential, you know,
Speaker 2: And I say potential, I gotta go. I'm gonna show up.
Speaker 2: But I guess a lot of people in the text
Speaker 2: line have said that they've showed up for jury to
Speaker 2: do only to be sent home. Why do they send
Speaker 2: you home like that?
Speaker 3: I guess it gets settled or somebody gets postponed. This says.
Speaker 2: Some weird ass dude drove fifty miles with a loaded gun,
Speaker 2: texting his X one hundred times that he was going
Speaker 2: to kill her and her new boyfriend. H he drived,
Speaker 2: drove to the wrong house on the right street, and
Speaker 2: cops wrapped him up right away. Suddenly he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to do anything. It was pathetic, to be honest. Nobody
Speaker 2: wanted to be there. His ex didn't even want him
Speaker 2: to get in trouble, and they all just wanted to
Speaker 2: move on. Weirdest part of all. I ended up finding
Speaker 2: out that I like jury duty. Oh trust me, the
Speaker 2: text line is not full. But there are many that
Speaker 2: have said they did jury duty they found it fun.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm one of you. I hope it's fun.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll find out that it's not fun.
Speaker 3: I hope you're reading the verdict. How does that go?
Speaker 3: Like that works? I think the jury decides like collectively,
Speaker 3: who like the spokesperson is for everyone. I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I think that's how it works though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then others have said, you know, the best
Speaker 2: way to get out of jury duty is to this
Speaker 2: day and age just to claim you have COVID. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean like, actually, if you say, hey, I'm not
Speaker 2: feeling well, they're probably just going to go to it.
Speaker 2: Like how can they prove that? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess they wouldn't go to extra lengths and anyway,
Speaker 3: check what do I know?
Speaker 2: But I feel like anybody I know of that you
Speaker 2: tried to get out of jury duty was effective in
Speaker 2: getting out of Jerry duty. But why do you think
Speaker 2: it's always been chalked up as a.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I got Jerry duty, Like, what would be
Speaker 3: so bad about it? I guess the worst case scenario.
Speaker 3: I guess there's probably many cases that wouldn't be good,
Speaker 3: depending on your personal situation. But if it was an
Speaker 3: inconvenience to like maybe plans you already had, yeah, depending
Speaker 3: on when you're again, that's completely random, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you have to do it.
Speaker 2: I can't relate to this because I love my job
Speaker 2: and I mean that seriously, and I think people realize
Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, just trying to be a company man,
Speaker 2: which we already are here, but like a lot of
Speaker 2: people hate their job. If you get to go to
Speaker 2: Jerry duty, not go to work, Like, wouldn't you want.
Speaker 1: To do that?
Speaker 3: If I hated my job, absolutely, I'd much rather be
Speaker 3: it Jerry.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I'm curious as to why it has
Speaker 2: just turned into like anybody who brings it up all yeah,
Speaker 2: like you got to go to the dentist and get
Speaker 2: a root canal or something like.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't get it, but maybe I'll learn. I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, I am going to learn a lot about it.
Speaker 2: Maybe I won't be as high on jury duty after
Speaker 2: I have been part of said Jerry.
Speaker 3: With all this talk, I feel like you're just gonna
Speaker 3: be one of those that does don't even have to
Speaker 3: do anything, Like you just show up and they say, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: did you're dismissed?
Speaker 2: What if I say, well, could I be on standby
Speaker 2: in case you guys need an extra juror for any
Speaker 2: of these other cases. I'm I'm ready to serve my
Speaker 2: community of Bullet County and here these cases be, you know,
Speaker 2: be there in the you know, as a jury member
Speaker 2: throughout testimony, evidence, discovery. I'm just throwing out words that
Speaker 2: I hear on law and order, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I'll be the one that you know, decides if this
Speaker 2: person is guilty or not.
Speaker 3: They probably do all the cases in Bullet County at
Speaker 3: like the Hillview Lounge or something, right, you mean, like
Speaker 3: where they took place. That's probably where all the cases
Speaker 3: will take like where the jury will be at Like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean, like the court case whatever wherever
Speaker 3: it is you're going to be at. No, it's in court.
Speaker 3: I know that. I'm just talking. Thought.
Speaker 2: I thought you were saying that, like the most of
Speaker 2: the cases will be will involve something that happened. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if there if there have been a few, right,
Speaker 2: I mean you never know. Yeah, Look, I love County Line.
Speaker 2: But again I'll say this, you never make plans to
Speaker 2: go there. You end up there. The night takes you.
Speaker 3: There, just like Jerry Duty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, I don't know if Jerry Duty
Speaker 2: is going to require the instant stripping of all your
Speaker 2: clothes when you get home and throwing them in the
Speaker 2: washer and then taking a shower. Again, I can say
Speaker 2: it because I'm I'm I'm like, we can take digs
Speaker 2: at Bullet County, John, because we are Bullet County. So,
Speaker 2: like you know, everybody, the County Line is a great place,
Speaker 2: but it's it's also a place where you can still
Speaker 2: smoke inside.
Speaker 3: But you can't do that anywhere in Louisville. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people who come there just
Speaker 2: knowing they can sit at a barstool and light up.
Speaker 2: So you know, you leave there smelling like an ashtray.
Speaker 3: I mean with Kurt Signetti. That may be my place
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 2: Now, oh dude, that's going to be the Indiana watch party.
Speaker 3: It is, I'll call him up and reserve the entire building.
Speaker 2: How many Indiana fans do we have in Bullet County?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 2: How many of there are you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I'd probably be somewhere less
Speaker 3: than fifteen. And that may be too many.
Speaker 2: No, no way, Bullet County's a big county. Now, I mean,
Speaker 2: I heck, in my street there's two people, one on
Speaker 2: my street, one on a street over that has like
Speaker 2: a Hoosier flag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I guess I just assume everybody's Kentucky,
Speaker 3: that's Louisville.
Speaker 2: But that's what's wild, and I don't I've never really
Speaker 2: understood it. I would never expect the Kentuckyana area to
Speaker 2: have the trio represented equally Louisville, Kentucky, IU.
Speaker 3: But we do live.
Speaker 2: Right on the river. And Indiana has a humongous fan base.
Speaker 2: Now I know a lot of them aren't here in
Speaker 2: southern Indiana or in Louisville, But like I've never understood
Speaker 2: why Indiana has never really taken off as a distant
Speaker 2: third local that just is always discussed and talked about.
Speaker 2: Like clearly there's coverage of IU within our market on television,
Speaker 2: and I think those people do a good job. But
Speaker 2: like I go to New Albany, I see thee but
Speaker 2: louis of Indiana, Louisville and Kentucky fans.
Speaker 3: I feel you're right, and I get that this may
Speaker 3: just be a shot in the dark, but I feel
Speaker 3: like a lot of it is because especially in basketball.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean football for sure, but they haven't
Speaker 3: been relevant consistently enough to really be talked about on
Speaker 3: a larger scale when it comes to their history in
Speaker 3: the last twenty years.
Speaker 2: But in basketball, like they still they're always good.
Speaker 3: They're always a big deal, and to say good, they're
Speaker 3: always popular among Indiana fans. But if they're not making
Speaker 3: noise like they were in twenty thirteen and even twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody else seems to really talk about it.
Speaker 2: I guess you're right, Like if Indiana was rolling, we
Speaker 2: probably would hear more. Cause again, if you like, if
Speaker 2: you're an Indiana fan in the Kentuckian area. And what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is in Louisville or in southern Indiana.
Speaker 2: You know, let's say from from Jeffersonville to you know,
Speaker 2: to Henryville or something like that. Like you probably know
Speaker 2: that you're outnumbered, and the teams that outnumber you as
Speaker 2: far as fans are Kentucky and Louisville fans to where like,
Speaker 2: if you know you're outnumbered and you know you're not
Speaker 2: as good as them, you're not gonna be as yeah, boisterous,
Speaker 2: But you know, I've always always thought that was kind
Speaker 2: of odd. How even in southern Indiana, I don't feel
Speaker 2: as if I you as their team.
Speaker 3: You're right, And this is a very small sample size,
Speaker 3: but when I was in elementary school, there was probably
Speaker 3: a lot more Louisville and Kentucky fans right across the
Speaker 3: river where I was, And that was always weird to
Speaker 3: me as a kim, Like why are people cheering for
Speaker 3: the teams that aren't even in the state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there could be in somebody's already texted on
Speaker 2: the text line with this, and I think there's certainly
Speaker 2: this is part of it. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: people who live in southern Indiana that grew up in Kentucky,
Speaker 2: in the state, or in Louisville, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: to where like, yeah, it's just there, you know, or
Speaker 2: and heck, I know there are at one point. This
Speaker 2: is way back, you know, way back before you and
Speaker 2: hore around long before. You know, there were a lot
Speaker 2: of people because of jobs I think in like the sixties,
Speaker 2: maybe even as early as the fifties that came from
Speaker 2: far eastern Kentucky and lived in southern Indiana up in
Speaker 2: like Scott County that area to where you know, their
Speaker 2: roots are still Kentucky, to where they're you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's BBN. But you can't escape them.
Speaker 3: You can go anywhere you can't see them.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can go to Pluto, you can land
Speaker 2: on the moon. You'll run into some guy in a
Speaker 2: Louisville or any.
Speaker 3: Youth's probably aliens in Kentucky shirts that we've never seen before,
Speaker 3: and as soon as you walk by, they'll throw you
Speaker 3: hit that l's down for you, Just throw that l's
Speaker 3: down at you up in space because that they just
Speaker 3: can't control themselves. It's just it's it's a thing, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like I always say again, like,
Speaker 2: I don't say this to like make a bad joke,
Speaker 2: because it's really not that funny. I'm telling you, wait
Speaker 2: till uh wait till family starts sending out Christmas cards
Speaker 2: or you know, getting the fall pictures done. They'll families
Speaker 2: of Kentucky fans. They'll take a bunch of candid shots,
Speaker 2: you know, some just the kids by themselves, some of
Speaker 2: the big family, one with mom in the in the daughter,
Speaker 2: one with dad and the sun, you know, mix it up,
Speaker 2: and then they'll make sure they get that family shot.
Speaker 2: Everybody throw those l's down, kids, We got to get
Speaker 2: this one with a Christmas card. Like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just it's they can't help themselves. They love throwing l's down,
Speaker 2: no matter who they're playing, no matter where they are,
Speaker 2: l's down. It's like a reflex thing, right, Like you
Speaker 2: just can't control it.
Speaker 3: Anyways, we'll move on.
Speaker 2: Are we talked to little Basketball yesterday? Because I was just,
Speaker 2: you know, I was once again kind of second guessing myself, Like,
Speaker 2: am I being a crazy homer here for thinking that
Speaker 2: John Rostein's dorky ass is just completely hating on Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey picking Louisville eleventh in the ACC because I'm thinking
Speaker 2: that sounds ridiculous. But then again, I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: brand new team. You were the worst team in the
Speaker 2: conference the last two years. Yes, you did great in
Speaker 2: the portal, but it's going to take some real proof.
Speaker 2: It's going to take some real results before people start
Speaker 2: looking at you differently. Because when they think of Louisville
Speaker 2: right now, even though they know you got better because
Speaker 2: I knew you couldn't get worse, they know you got
Speaker 2: better players, they still need to see something before they
Speaker 2: start looking at you as a legitimate team. And I
Speaker 2: think that's understandable. But then again, look around the ACC.
Speaker 2: So I still think Rostein was way off and thinking
Speaker 2: Louislle on paper, it's the eleventh best team in the
Speaker 2: eighteen team ACC Basketball League. And to make me feel
Speaker 2: even more so like Rostein is, you know, on some
Speaker 2: nonsense here is to see the Athletic, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be real, and yes, I'm only saying
Speaker 2: like if John Rostein would have had him at number
Speaker 2: three and the Athletic would have had him at you know,
Speaker 2: number eleven, I would have said the opposite here. But
Speaker 2: you know what, this is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 2: The Athletic is way more legit than Rostein because the
Speaker 2: Athletic has Louisville at number three, big difference when it
Speaker 2: comes to eleven. And I'm not saying like they're going
Speaker 2: to be the third best team. But when we were talking,
Speaker 2: we were talking yesterday about just like the rest of
Speaker 2: the league, like who you're scared of? Who do you
Speaker 2: think is going to be like really really good? And
Speaker 2: you know, me thinking Louisville could be a legitimate top
Speaker 2: five ACC team despite being the worst team in their
Speaker 2: league the last two years is more so to do
Speaker 2: with the league not having anybody you should just be
Speaker 2: scared of like that, That's the way I see it.
Speaker 2: So Louisville is at number three, with North Carolina number
Speaker 2: one and Duke number I'm sorry, North Carolina number two,
Speaker 2: Duke number one, No real surprise there. And then again
Speaker 2: Louisville at number three. Number four is Miami, Number five
Speaker 2: is wake Forest six, Pittsburgh seven, Georgia Tech eight, Clemson
Speaker 2: nine Virginia. That's a little surprising, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: Tony Bennet hasn't really been good in a while. Number
Speaker 2: ten in c State, So you know, these preseason rankings
Speaker 2: in basketball, just like football, don't really mean anything because
Speaker 2: as soon as the season actually starts, you forget all
Speaker 2: about it. You have results, you can get a feel
Speaker 2: for really where you are, and you're not even referencing
Speaker 2: or thinking of any off season, preseason rankings, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call them. But I would say if you,
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at Louisville at number three
Speaker 2: and think that's being a little too bullish on Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey's first team, and you look at number eleven and
Speaker 2: think that's like two simistic put them at five or six,
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, I could, I could totally.
Speaker 2: I think that's you know, anywhere between honestly, anywhere between
Speaker 2: four and seven. I think would have been no reaction, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could kind of see that. But I will say this,
Speaker 2: I mean, I was surprised to see them at number three,
Speaker 2: But also again, when I look at the rest of
Speaker 2: this league, and I look at what Pat Kelsey's brought
Speaker 2: in from a personnel standpoint, and I've watched this team play,
Speaker 2: and I know they played nobody in the Bahamas that
Speaker 2: is going to give you a similar look that the
Speaker 2: ACC is gonna give you. But they mean, the personnel,
Speaker 2: the way they're going to play, their style of play,
Speaker 2: the balance and depth that they have, Like, there's no
Speaker 2: reason why they can't be a top five team in
Speaker 2: this league.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side, and again we'll
Speaker 2: talk about this G five meeting that's going to take place.
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad idea, but you know, maybe
Speaker 2: they're just looking out for themselves. Also, if you're a
Speaker 2: sports better like myself, you're gonna end up having to
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Speaker 3: to have changed his personality, identity, whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it, a few different times throughout his.
Speaker 2: WORL and like I now don't believe he's. I don't
Speaker 2: believe he's when he says things, I don't think he's.
Speaker 2: Any of this is for attention. Like I think he's
Speaker 2: just not there, like you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 3: He's got something wrong with them type of thing.
Speaker 2: And there's been someone I don't know who it was.
Speaker 2: There was somebody I think used to be a publicist,
Speaker 2: used to be somebody that was in his in his entourage,
Speaker 2: a paid staffer for you know, the AA world, And
Speaker 2: they've come out and basically said, somebody needs to help
Speaker 2: him because the people that he's is with our helping
Speaker 2: him obtain some type of medication that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess, frying his brain. But anyways, that was good.
Speaker 2: Kanye West, all Right, I just did a record. I
Speaker 2: just recorded a commercial during the break for a for
Speaker 2: a you know, and an ed company we're about to
Speaker 2: bring on. And man, I'm I'm we're gonna finish strong John.
Speaker 2: Let me just put it that way. Let's just doing
Speaker 2: the read as me fired up ready to I mean,
Speaker 2: because you got to be really energetic. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: trying because I told you how bad I wasn't recording
Speaker 2: commercials a couple of weeks ago. So now I'm trying
Speaker 2: to trying to find my inner Tony Venetti and just
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Like really deliver like to my game is on.
Speaker 2: It was Bat's commercial, which is legendary. The best part
Speaker 2: of an Eddi's commercial is a key. They'll give you
Speaker 2: copy and really it depends on how you deliver, how
Speaker 2: you read. But more often than not, if they want
Speaker 2: a thirty the copy is too long and you have
Speaker 2: to or they give you a sixty in the copy
Speaker 2: not sixty seconds, so you got to fill. And Venetti
Speaker 2: has just a gift of like saying the same thing
Speaker 2: like five dollars, that's right, five dollars and just like
Speaker 2: you know, ad living some of the commercial to where
Speaker 2: he fits it right in in sixty seconds. That's why
Speaker 2: he's the best at delivering commercials. I don't think we'll
Speaker 2: ever see anybody in this business better than the Walking infomercial,
Speaker 2: The Walking whoor that is Tony Vinetti my idol. All right,
Speaker 2: so quick, college basketball slash NBA numbers to share with
Speaker 2: you that I found to be interesting. So this College
Speaker 2: Basketball Report Twitter account. They do put out some pretty
Speaker 2: interesting content every now and then. But they have the
Speaker 2: all time points leaders NBA's all time points leader board
Speaker 2: by college and their highest scorer. So probably not a
Speaker 2: shock to Kentucky fans that in the NBA Kentucky players
Speaker 2: have scored more points than any other college. That didn't
Speaker 2: surprise you, right, John, I mean they've no, They've put
Speaker 2: a ton of guys in the league over the years,
Speaker 2: but Dan Hissel still is the guy who has the
Speaker 2: most the most points. So he is the all time
Speaker 2: leading scorer for Kentucky in you know, in the NBA,
Speaker 2: and I think he is as well at Kentucky. So
Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan is at number two for Carolina, he
Speaker 2: wasn't the all time leading scorer for North Carolina because
Speaker 2: he didn't play there four years, but he is the
Speaker 2: all time leading scorer obviously in the NBA for Carolina.
Speaker 2: Number three UCLA Kareem abdul Jabbar. Number four is Duke
Speaker 2: as far as the amount of you know, NBA points
Speaker 2: from the Duke Blue Devil program. But the guy who
Speaker 2: has scored the most. This confirms something I've always believed
Speaker 2: but never really and this doesn't prove it. But Duke
Speaker 2: for being Duke. Some of their best college players, the
Speaker 2: guys you remember that really were big as far as
Speaker 2: the Dukie brand won titles or a title part of
Speaker 2: special teams. They didn't end up having like great careers
Speaker 2: in the NBA, like you kind of still think of them, Like,
Speaker 2: for example, JJ Reddick had a hell of a career
Speaker 2: in the NBA. He did, he was a good player
Speaker 2: for many years. And he also, you know, is now
Speaker 2: the Lakers coach. But I can't be the only one
Speaker 2: that when I think of j Rieddick, I still think
Speaker 2: of him at Duke just because he was he was
Speaker 2: the face of college basketball. He was a great villain,
Speaker 2: and he was literally an unbelievable player. So Duke has
Speaker 2: put a lot of guys in the league. Again, they're
Speaker 2: number four on this list, but their leading scorer in
Speaker 2: the NBA is Kyrie Irving. Like maybe I'm not giving
Speaker 2: Kyrie enough credit for being, you know, the great player
Speaker 2: that he was, But I don't know, like I would
Speaker 2: have expected it to be somebody else. I mean, Kyrie
Speaker 2: only played five games at Duke before he got hurt
Speaker 2: and you know, didn't play. But yeah, like the best
Speaker 2: Duke players that I can think of in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: they they haven't gone on to be like like Zion
Speaker 2: has a chance to do that. But here we are,
Speaker 2: what fire five years into the Zion era and he's
Speaker 2: kind of yet to really escape the Yeah, the guy's
Speaker 2: pretty good when he can play. And there's also some
Speaker 2: guys who are really good that just you know it.
Speaker 2: It didn't hit like Sheldon Williams was.
Speaker 3: Great at Duke.
Speaker 2: He was a flame out of the NBA. I mentioned
Speaker 2: Reddick Jay Williams. I'm gonna say this, Jay Williams is
Speaker 2: no is not exactly, you know, a super popular guy
Speaker 2: in the media world. I don't feel like he is.
Speaker 2: I think, you know a lot of people don't really
Speaker 2: care for him. But he was so good as a player.
Speaker 2: Like anytime I criticize something he said as an analyst,
Speaker 2: and it's never personal, although sometimes I do think he
Speaker 2: had like he did some Kenny Payne stuff that was
Speaker 2: a little much. And again I talked about it. When
Speaker 2: he does games as a color analyst, he thinks he's
Speaker 2: doing a radio show instead of doing an actual game
Speaker 2: and it pisses me off. So I'm not a big
Speaker 2: fan of him in that world. But he was a
Speaker 2: bad man at Duke. Honestly, straight up, Him and JJ
Speaker 2: Reddick are the two best Duke players I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Carlos Boozer really good player at Duke, but like you know,
Speaker 2: decent NBA player, Sean Battie, a journeyman in the league,
Speaker 2: Elton Brand. I'm actually surprised Elton Brand's not the all
Speaker 2: time leading scorer for Duke. Grant Hill, that's one he
Speaker 2: had a great career. Who else, Bobby Hurley, that's before
Speaker 2: my time, Laatener we all know how that worked out.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I just I've always felt like Duke is
Speaker 2: deserving of being up there because of what they've done,
Speaker 2: mostly in fact, all of it was Shoyzhsky, right, However,
Speaker 2: like I don't feel like any like have they ever
Speaker 2: had a guy that was the face of the NBA.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's a hard standard to hit because how
Speaker 2: many guys can ever actually say they were the face
Speaker 2: of the NBA at any point, But like with Kentucky,
Speaker 2: they certainly can. Michael Jordan obviously, Kream, Abdul Jabbar Kansas
Speaker 2: is number five. They've got Wilt Chamberlain. They can certainly
Speaker 2: say that. So those are your top five.
Speaker 3: And again.
Speaker 2: UCLA is weird here just because UCLA is you know,
Speaker 2: their history is really just one era that was so
Speaker 2: long ago. And I feel like if we're gonna like
Speaker 2: in my lifetime, I'm thirty six years old, UCLA has
Speaker 2: two two, maybe one title in my lifetime, So like
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's really it's disingenuous to
Speaker 2: continue to claim that they are one of the elite program.
Speaker 3: Like it's been.
Speaker 2: And again there's what makes it, what makes it easily dismiss.
Speaker 2: It's easy to dismiss for people that like, no, they
Speaker 2: still count because they're not irrelevant, like they're like they
Speaker 2: were in the Champion, they were in the final four
Speaker 2: not that long ago, like they're every now and then.
Speaker 2: They're pretty good. But like it, when it comes to
Speaker 2: being a program that is mentioned as the elite of
Speaker 2: the elite, you know, how can you claim that they
Speaker 2: are one of those whenever their their last title came
Speaker 2: in ninety five. Before that, they hadn't won one in
Speaker 2: twenty years since nineteen seventy five, So like they're always
Speaker 2: going to be an outlier just because they're different. They
Speaker 2: won so many titles so long ago, and they made
Speaker 2: final fours in the two thousands, Like it'd be easy
Speaker 2: to just write them off and not consider them if
Speaker 2: they didn't have those final fours during the bin Halan era.
Speaker 2: Help Nick Cronin took them to a final four. But like,
Speaker 2: they so don't belong with the rest of these five
Speaker 2: other than the fact that they won so many titles
Speaker 2: with Wooden. So again, wouldn't you say if you asked
Speaker 2: the most casual college basketball fan that has just enough
Speaker 2: knowledge of the sport to be dangerous, if you asked
Speaker 2: them to say, all, right, five best programs of all
Speaker 2: time in some order, they would say those five, would
Speaker 2: they not? Yeah, that's fair Kentucky, Carolina do UCLA in Kansas.
Speaker 3: I don't know that they would even say UCLA for
Speaker 3: That's what I.
Speaker 2: Mean though, Yeah, yeah, you're right, because you know, you'd
Speaker 2: have to be a casual old because again, their last
Speaker 2: they've won.
Speaker 3: They'd almost say Yukon before Ucla.
Speaker 2: So if you're fifty years old, you can still claim
Speaker 2: you've only seen one title for you for UCLA, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy not. Yeah, So the rest of
Speaker 2: this and I'm not going to read the whole list,
Speaker 2: but the top five is pretty predictable. As far as
Speaker 2: the programs six through ten, I wouldn't say that it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, super surprising, but Michigan came in at number six.
Speaker 2: That really did surprise me because I can't think of
Speaker 2: many guys in the NBA that played at Michigan that
Speaker 2: were like all time greats.
Speaker 3: Is it the Fab Five? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean tier I mean, but only one of the
Speaker 2: Fab two of the Fab five ended up having like
Speaker 2: legitimate careers in the NBA that would be remembered, and
Speaker 2: that's Jalen Rose and Chris Webber, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: I mean they were they were great when they were great.
Speaker 2: You have Glenn Rice as well, who had who had
Speaker 2: a long run way back in the day.
Speaker 3: He had Lewis Bullock.
Speaker 2: But the all time leading scorer in the NBA from
Speaker 2: Michigan kind of a trick question, not really a trick question.
Speaker 3: This guy played for.
Speaker 2: A long time and he was really good, but nobody
Speaker 2: like I bet I would be willing to bet that
Speaker 2: notable NBA player that people know remember, they know he
Speaker 2: was a journeyman. They you know he played in the
Speaker 2: league forever. In fact, Jamal Crawford played for twenty seasons.
Speaker 2: I bet a lot of people who know a lot
Speaker 2: about his pro career, if put on the spot, would
Speaker 2: not be able to tell you that he went to
Speaker 2: Michigan because he's only there one year and it was
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine when he was there. So he's
Speaker 2: their all time leading scorer. I mean, I would imagine
Speaker 2: Chris Webers probably probably was the guy when he retired,
Speaker 2: But Crawford played for again twenty years in the NBA.
Speaker 2: He still looks the same as he did when he
Speaker 2: got drafted. Indiana is at number seven, John, and I
Speaker 2: have no problem in admitting this. I have never heard
Speaker 2: of the guy who is their all time leading scorer
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Might be because you know, he was
Speaker 2: born in nineteen thirty nine and he played in Indiana
Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty eight to nineteen sixty one. But he
Speaker 2: was the first overall pick. Walt Bellamy.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know Walt Bellamy had no idea he was
Speaker 3: an Indiana guy. No shit, did I say that. I
Speaker 3: think it was we'll dumb, but just in case, I
Speaker 3: can't believe I did that. We're back though, sorry about that.
Speaker 2: I don't think I said it, but you made the
Speaker 2: right call, and it just we'll move on because we
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time left anyway. I'm a
Speaker 2: little irritated at myself because I think that's only the
Speaker 2: second time that's ever happened to me and radio. Really
Speaker 2: just mid conversation, I said a curse word, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if I fully said it.
Speaker 3: But still it was close. It was very close. Definitely
Speaker 3: wasn't the full.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't like you didn't miss out on me,
Speaker 2: just like oh, I wonder what he said it was
Speaker 2: at R rated No. I just instead of saying no,
Speaker 2: no way, I said no sh But I think I
Speaker 2: actually got more.
Speaker 3: Of the three quarters. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: So anyways, Walt Bellamy is Indiana's and then we'll round
Speaker 2: out the top ten here and I'll tell you where
Speaker 2: Louisville came in. Arizona's number eight, Jason Terry is their
Speaker 2: all time leading scorer, Ohio state number nine, John Haletchik,
Speaker 2: and then Michigan State number ten, and that is Zacharandolph.
Speaker 2: A lot of big ten representation here, all right, so Louisville,
Speaker 2: it looks as if came in at right around twenty.
Speaker 2: They don't have it numbered here, but I think it's twentieth.
Speaker 2: And there's no real surprise that their leading scorer all
Speaker 2: time is Darryl Griffith, and it will be Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 2: unless something crazy happens, because Donovan, of course is you know,
Speaker 2: is on pace. I'm sure to break that before too long.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but like what Donov
Speaker 2: Mitchell's done as an NBA player as far as numbers right,
Speaker 2: obviously nobody's gonna nobody's surprised to hear that he's a
Speaker 2: great player in regards to like, you know, he's clearly
Speaker 2: an all star. But like for him to get more
Speaker 2: love at the top of the NBA, he needs to
Speaker 2: like take a team to the finals, which is easier
Speaker 2: said than done. But I mean, if you just go
Speaker 2: look like, I think even Lowell fans would be surprised
Speaker 2: to cease to see statistically just how amazing Donovan has
Speaker 2: been as a pro from a numbers perspective. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, We'll come back on the other side and
Speaker 2: finally get to something I've been mentioning but haven't really
Speaker 2: discussed and there may not be a whole lot more
Speaker 2: to add to it. But the G five are they
Speaker 2: reading the room? Are they going to kind of are
Speaker 2: they gonna be the ones that actually create this separation
Speaker 2: between highest levels of college football? And then you know them,
Speaker 2: we'll see it. Sounds like they're going to talk about
Speaker 2: it next week. All right, one more segment to go.
Speaker 2: It's Coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's right here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. No more curse words, I'm sorry. So,
Speaker 2: throughout the college Football Playoff era, meaning the era where
Speaker 2: you just got four teams in the only G five
Speaker 2: team that made it was Cincinnati, and they're not even
Speaker 2: G five anymore. They've moved up to the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: So it's not really a surprise to see that there's
Speaker 2: going to be a potential new college football playoff that
Speaker 2: features the G five teams that are not you know,
Speaker 2: that are not from the Power four, which of course
Speaker 2: that used to be called, you know, the the Power five.
Speaker 2: So in a way, I feel like, if you initiate
Speaker 2: this whole thing and you create your own version of
Speaker 2: your own playoff that features teams from the American Conference, Usa,
Speaker 2: the mac Mountain West, and Sun Belt. I mean that's
Speaker 2: basically letting the power, you know, the powers of the
Speaker 2: powers the powerful people, I should say at the College
Speaker 2: Football Playoff know that, like you, you know, you're kind
Speaker 2: of confirming you'll never get more than one. But then again,
Speaker 2: like this is about survival, and if they could still
Speaker 2: have one team get in and then they do their
Speaker 2: own thing and it's a big television deal that brings
Speaker 2: more money to be shared among that level of college football,
Speaker 2: that's what they need to do. I mean, it's about
Speaker 2: survival at this point. And I think just the G
Speaker 2: five just sitting aside, existing in irrelevance and knowing that
Speaker 2: only one of their teams is going to get a
Speaker 2: shot like that wouldn't really be a fun way to
Speaker 2: go about it. I mean, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: who's left in the G five as a team that
Speaker 2: you feel like just doesn't like it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of feel like we've already had
Speaker 2: it weed out, you know what I mean, Like the
Speaker 2: fact that now Cincinnati, Central Florida and.
Speaker 3: BYU and Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like I kind of feel, you know,
Speaker 2: Yukon's independent in football, but like they don't matter. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, weird they could be included in this too.
Speaker 2: And here let me tell you this. I would be
Speaker 2: willing to bet that if they did a G five
Speaker 2: college football playoff on its own, I bet that they
Speaker 2: would be a part of that because the last conference
Speaker 2: they were in was the American And you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess they'd be. They'd be lucky to get in.
Speaker 2: Like if you're independent in football and you're not Notre Dame, what.
Speaker 3: Are you doing? Like, like, what are you doing? The other?
Speaker 3: Air Force is obviously a part of the Mount West.
Speaker 3: But the other two no, that's right, Arey and Navy
Speaker 3: part of c USA.
Speaker 2: Now are Navy is in the American Okay? Army I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: So for a while that they were all independent as well.
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna be curious. Yeah, Army is in the
Speaker 2: AAC as well, So both Army and.
Speaker 3: Navy are there. Okay.
Speaker 2: It's like I want to say Memphis, but that like Memphis,
Speaker 2: and I guess honestly it would be Memphis, that would
Speaker 2: be my guess because and it's not because of some
Speaker 2: great historic college football history they have. It's just that
Speaker 2: they you know, they've been in conferences with Louisville here
Speaker 2: and there throughout and of all thes that have gotten
Speaker 2: a chance to get to get plucked and move on
Speaker 2: the fact that they've never been there. It just has
Speaker 2: always kind of surprised me because look, they got they
Speaker 2: got fed X money. I mean, like if Memphis had
Speaker 2: put it this way, if Memphis was in the ACC,
Speaker 2: you know, I think their ceiling would be higher than
Speaker 2: many of the current teams in the league, including like
Speaker 2: Boston College and Wake Forest Duke, even when it comes
Speaker 2: to football specifically, just because again like they there's it's
Speaker 2: a huge city or a big city, I should say,
Speaker 2: and you know, they do have a fan base and
Speaker 2: they've got fed X money when it comes to nil.
Speaker 2: And if they were if they were in a better league,
Speaker 2: that put them in a more in a better position
Speaker 2: to just you know, be on national television. That kind
Speaker 2: of stuff would help them in recruiting certainly, Like I
Speaker 2: could see where they would be, you know, like I
Speaker 2: could see them in the middle of the pack a
Speaker 2: SEC teams. I would say them as far as the
Speaker 2: one school that you know, if they did get an invite,
Speaker 2: they would kind of fit and nobody would say how
Speaker 2: the hell they get up to this level. So anyways,
Speaker 2: there reason I'll bring it up is because Ross Dellinger
Speaker 2: of Yahoo Sports is reporting that there's going to be
Speaker 2: a meeting next week, I believe in Dallas with the
Speaker 2: G five commissioners to discuss putting together some you know,
Speaker 2: if they want to put together their own playoff. And
Speaker 2: you know, I would imagine this is more not to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're doing this because we're being shut out. It's probably
Speaker 2: just reading the room and like knowing, hey, we need
Speaker 2: to do more and more things to put more potential
Speaker 2: revenue in our pockets. And this will clearly not be
Speaker 2: the we'd be nothing close to the college football playoff
Speaker 2: that we know is going to be the twelve team
Speaker 2: playoff now, but like it would still be a TV
Speaker 2: event that we would watch, and you would have advertisers,
Speaker 2: and it would be you know, bit official for them
Speaker 2: to do it. But I also think you gotta be
Speaker 2: careful because you're kind of telling on yourselves. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't belong with you guys, we know it, which is true.
Speaker 2: So maybe more than anything, I should just tip the
Speaker 2: cap and say bravo for being self aware all right,
Speaker 2: we're out of time. Back at it tomorrow for a Friday.
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