Speaker 1: And hello, how are you happy Thursday? To you today,
the twenty fourth day of July, Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So we've
got a lot going on today. Busy day. It started
off kind of slow, but it's been building throughout the day.
Telsea Gabbard dropped bombshell yesterday about referring criminal referral to
the Justice Department over the coup that was attempted by
the Obama administration when Donald Trump was elected president. Goes
back to two thousand and will get you the get
you up to speed on that Columbia University paying over
two hundred million dollars, basically saying, Okay, we'll change our ways.
More gruesome details out of the Idaho murder story that
we'll we'll get we'll we'll keep it tame. But there's
a lot of things that Brian Colbert did are shocking.
And and an update on Brian Epstein because Delaine Maxwell
met with the number two in the Justice Department today
in Tallahassee. So we got we got a lot to
get going. Let's start today with Tulsea Gabbard the Office
of Director of National Intelligence and bring you up to
date about what this whole criminal referral going back to
twenty sixteen is all about.
Speaker 2: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how in Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. There are a
lot of.
Speaker 3: Deep state actors still here within Washington. President Trump wants
us to find the truth. I want to find the truth.
The American people deserve the truth and they deserve accountability,
which is why I'm really glad to see that Attorney
General Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice announced the
creation of a strikeforced team today specifically to get after
all the intelligence and evidence that we have gathered, we
have more coming, and to determine the path forward to
bring about that accountability.
Speaker 1: So to get a sense of all of this, let's
go back a few years. This was when Trey Goudy
was in the House of Representatives and he was leading
a committee asking John Brennan about the false information basically
the Steele dossier and the fact that it was an
op position research piece paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign
and John Brennan included it in the intelligence about the
connection between trying to make a connection between Russia and
Donald Trump. Here's Trey Goudi when he was a congressman
asking Brennan about that.
Speaker 4: Did the CIA rely on it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 5: Because we did. It wasn't part of the corpus of
intelligence information that we had. It was not in any
way used as a basis for the Intel's community assessment
that was done. It was it was not.
Speaker 4: Well, the folks on the House Intel Committee. I mean,
you just referenced the twenty seventeen report that was authored
by Deva Noon as he was the chair. Cash Bettel
was involved, John Ratcliffe later was involved. We already knew
everything that the rest of the world learned yesterday. It's
just classified. So when I asked Brennan, did you lie
on this, on this Steele dossier or other false information
in court pleadings? We didn't play that clip, but I
asked him the question court pleadings. What I was getting
at was Faiza applications and the ICA, so we knew
that he was lying then. I mean, that was eight
years ago. So I'm glad that the rest of the
world knows that. But that's why we wrote the report
in twenty seventeen. One other thing happened. Kudos to the
CIA director John Ratcliffe, who, when he was in the DNI,
he declassified Brennan's notes. You could tell then that John
Brennan and other intelligence officials were in cahootsvil Obama to
put a cloud over Donald Trump's presidency. And guess what,
Bill they succeeded. They put a cloud over his first term,
not just professionally, but also his personal life. Imagine having
to go home and explain to your spouse, Look, honey,
they're alleging that I was at a Moscow hotel and
I did some really really grow There's things I've never
been to that hotel. I don't know what they're talking about.
So they did it to undermine Trump. But we knew
this in twenty seventeen, which is why we wrote the report.
Speaker 1: So now what happens, Well, we've got to wait for
the Department of Justice to see what they're going to do.
But because of the recent Supreme Court ruling about Donald
Trump having a president's having immunity, that means that Barack
Obama has immunity for all the times that he was
in the White House. John Brennan Clapper, there's a Susan
Rice there's others that were on Obama's team that were
part of this group. They may very well be exposed.
And Clapper was interviewed last night and said, yeah, he's
lawyering up, and I don't blame him.
Speaker 4: Here's back to Trey person. Obama's already implicated. I mean
he was having routine meetings with Kobe, Clapper and Brennan.
I mean they knew how unreliable this information was.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 4: They knew that it was paid for by Hillary Clinton,
so he didn't need a Presidential Daily briefing to know
that this information was fault They literally the FBI paid
and informant that they fired and Christopher Steele to compile
this information. They did it to put a cloud over
Donald Trump's presidency, and House Democrats and the media took
it hook line and sinker, and they put a cloud
over his first term. It's less than fifty people have
ever been elected president. Imagine the frustration of having your
first term having defend off and look, I was in
the room when they all accused Trump's family members, his children,
his children in law, his closest friends of being in
collusion with Russia. And there was never a stitch of
evidence to support it. So Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comy, they
knew that they did it to put a cloud over
his It was seven years ago. Well, Obama has immunity.
We learned that when the Supreme Court said presidents have
immunity for official acts. So anyone who says that Barack
Obama is going to be prosecuted needs to go back
and read that opinion. As for Clapper, call me Brennan.
We had him in twenty seventeen. You just played the
clip he lied to Congressional Hearing. The time to prosecute
him would have been before the Statute of Limitations had drawn.
So whether or not they have additional lives, I don't know.
I defer the DOJ. But like I said, this may
be new to your listeners and your viewers, it's not
new to those of us who are investigating.
Speaker 1: So it clears up a lot of questions. But at
the same time, are there is anything going to happen?
As Trey Gouty confirmed, we all know that presidents have immunity,
so that means that Barack Obama is not going to
be prosecuted for any of this. And as far as
Clapper and Komi and Susan Rice and Brennan. Statute of
Limitations has already run. The Statute of Limitations for what
they're talking about is four years. This was in twenty sixteen,
So I don't know where they're going with this, but
I wanted to make sure get you up to date
on what the fuss was all about. Meanwhile, in the
university versus Trump administration stories that have been going on,
Columbia University, that was one of the first that they had,
all the riots and everything else. So Columbia has now
agreed to pay over two hundred million dollars and change
some of the ways that they do business. For example,
they are regarding hiring and admissions data. They're handing that
over to the federal government. They are sharing information about
foreign applicants with the US government. They will ban masked
protest at Columbia. They're going to add their own security
force at Columbia and cooperate with the NYPD. Claire Shipman
is recently installed. I believe she's interim president of Columbia.
This is her comment about all of this.
Speaker 6: I am confident in the agreement we struck. We worked
again on every word, so I am confident it does
not cross our lines that were essential to us. Of course,
I'm aware of the atmosphere in which we are, and
we're talking to the federal government and what other institutions
are facing. It's a very complex moment for higher education.
I respect every decision that every other institution is making
and will make. I've had incredibly helpful, deep thoughtful conversations
with the leaders of other institutions, and I really think
we are all facing many of the same issues, and
I understand and there may be different choices made, but
this was the responsible path for Columbia, which.
Speaker 1: While Columbia basically settled Harvard courses in the middle of
lawsuit versus Trump administration, so that one still needs to
be solved. To Idaho we go. So yesterday we went
over the sentencing of about Brian Coberger. More details have
been coming out now that now that the gag order
has been dropped. Some of this comes from police documents
in Idaho where Coberger tried to wipe a lot of
his devices. Remember, he was studying to be a criminologist,
he had a master's degree in it, he was going
for his PhD. And so he's thinks he's smarter than
everybody else. But he didn't wipe the devices all exactly
the way they should have been. A lot of things deleted,
things can still be retrieved, so he did wipe some things,
but on his computer, they did find, Like a lot
of people that are attacking, they say, this wasn't a
sexual attack, but there's usually an element of it somewhere,
And almost always you talk to detectives one hundred percent
of the time, there's probably going to be a lot
of porn on their computers. And in fact, what he
was doing was watching porn depicting raping drunk or passed
out women. So how that ties in with all of
this is for the psychiatrists to figure out. By the way,
there was a psychiatrist who made some comments on the
body language, if you will, in the way that Coberger
reacted yesterday to the victim's statements, and the psychiatrist said
Coberger was enjoying it, that he was absolutely kind of
enjoying hearing about the people and their grief and their
anger and their sadness and everything else. So he enjoyed
that whole session yesterday. What else do we have here?
He apparently takes According to an inmate, that was with
him at the jail in Moscow, Idaho, that he takes
our long showers, washes his hands dozens of times each day.
It sounds like he's, you know, compulsive, spends most of
the night awake, and has been facetiming with his mother
for hours every single day. Now where he's going the prison,
He's going to maximum security prison in kind of a
desert area of South Idaho. But listen to this, So
that's it's a single cell. You go into the cell
by yourself. Twenty three hours a day is going to
be in that cell. But he gets a computer tablet
and he will have a TV in his cell with
basic cable. And I'm going, well, what kind of punishment
is that? And he's a loner dude anyway, So well
I can see him doing just fine, sitting in his
cell on his tablet, watching TV whatever he wants to do.
But nobody will know unless he wants to talk, what
his motive was, what he was trying to achieve, who
was he targeting. He's just a very very strange guy.
By the way. Nine days before the murder, Kaylee told
the other roommates, two of which are still alive, she
saw a strange man staring at her. She took her
dog outside of that home and this strange man was
staring at her. That was nine days before and then
less than a week before they all came home and
found that the door to the house was open with
loose hinges, as if maybe he was setting it up
so he could get back in this he was also
they checked his cell phone. Besides pinging his location, they
also determined that he was listening to local police broadcast.
You can do that. There's broadcast to five other apps
that you can listen to police and their dispatch. So
he was listening to the police as he was going
over to do the murder on his cell phone to
find out where what they were up to. He This
is gruesome part. He stabbed Xana Kernodle fifty times five zero,
and he stabbed Kayley twenty times. He apparently also had something.
One of the the door dash witness that we never
really heard from, did see him saw him at the
house because he had just dropped off an order for
Zana and he had something in his hand, and they
said that he well that Kayley also suffered from not
only the stab wounds twenty of them, but also blunt
forced trauma to her face, so we had some sort
of brass knuckles or something to increase the damage. Dylan Mortenson,
who was the roommate one of the two that survived,
and opened the door and saw the guy with the
bushy eyebrows going by. She gave her victim statement yesterday,
and I thought I would play a part of it.
Speaker 7: He has a whole vessel, something less than a human,
a bonnie without empathy, without remorse. He chose destruction, he
chose evil, He does nothing. He tried to take everything
from me, my friends, my safety, my identity, my future.
He took their lives. But I will continue trying to
be like them to make them prouder.
Speaker 1: We talked about the deaths of the four students, but
this poor young lady, she's a young lady and she
has been psychologically terrified ever since this murder two and
a half years ago. And I know this is going
to haunt her the rest of her life. And I
pray that she will get some mental counseling to help
her get through all of this. Again, the psychiatrist that
was watching the sentencing hearing yesterday said that Brian Coberger
was enjoying hearing.
Speaker 7: All of this.
Speaker 1: He thought it was terrific. He's a sick man, that's
all it is. All right, let's move on to We'll
get to the latest on the Epstein story. Now it's
not going to way and and this is just downright
bizarre in my book, the fact that Todd blanche who
was Donald Trump's personal defense lawyer in the cases here
in New York, but that he is now the Deputy
Attorney General. He's number two in the Justice Department under
Pam Bondi, and the number two going to Tallahassee today
to have a meeting with Julane Maxwell. Now I know
Jelaanne Maxwell was knows everything. But why are they are
they that work? I mean, why couldn't they just send
your basic FBI agent to go interview her, or maybe
a lawyer from the Justice Department in Florida. But why
is the number to ramp it up this high? Says
to me. They are very worried about this Epstein story.
It's been widely reported that Pam Bondi went to President
Trump in May and told him that his name showed
up a number of times in the Epstein files, and
that doesn't mean that he was part of Epstein's crimes
or that he even knew about it, because he and
there's plenty of evidence that he and Epstein were friends,
good friends for probably ten to fifteen years. But that
doesn't mean that Donald Trump was involved in Epstein's crimes,
not at all. So if you don't have anything to hide,
don't make it look like you do have something to hide,
is my humble opinion. So was he on the list? Yes,
I was his name in the files. Not surprised. Evan Perez,
who's the media lawyer was covering this story, had this
to say.
Speaker 8: We know that this meeting is now going to happen
at the US Attorney's office at the federal building there
in Tallahassee, and we just a few minutes ago saw
Glenn Maxwell's attorney entering that complex, which indicates that she's
probably already there and that that meeting is going to
be happening sometime soon this morning.
Speaker 9: So the question, though, is what does she have to offer?
What does she have to say? And what does Todd
Blanche what is he bringing this to this meeting? Is
he going to be able to offer anything that gets
her to say? What she has to say now she
has a pending appeal, she has maintained her innocence. She's
serving a twenty year sentence, and we know this. She
wants to get out of prison as soon as possible.
So we'll see what comes of this meeting. And of course,
you know, as you pointed out, this all comes after
the President, we learned, was told back in May by
Todd Blanche and param Bondi briefing him that his name
was in these files. Now we've known that Donald Trump
and Jeffrey Epstein associated with each other, they were friends
over the years, and so the idea that his name
appeared on these files, along with dozens of other people
who were associated with Jeffrey Epstein, is not a surprise
at this point, but it goes to show what the
administration is dealing with us. They're trying to quell this
uproar over the Epstein matter and really trying to push
for more documents to be pushed to be released. We
know one judge in Florida yesterday ruled that they're not
going to release grand jury documents from the earlier investigation
back in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 10: In Florida. There are still requests for judges in New
York to release documents from the Epstein and Gillade Maxwell cases.
That's from later, that's more recent, twenty nineteen era. And
so now we wait to see what comes up this
meeting down in Tallahassee and whether we will hear more
from Maxwell and whether we will find out what she
has to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so will we find out what she had to say?
Tara Paul Mary, She's worked for a lot of the
major networks and she has really focused in on this
Epstein story in a big way, and this is her
take on all of them.
Speaker 11: Well, Glenn Maxwell was the top of the pyramid in
terms of the grooming operation. They that Jeffrey Ebstein needed
to abuse as many as a thousand girls. He was
incapable of carrying out this massive sex trafficking operation without her,
and many of the victims that I spoke to werecalled
being assaulted by Glenn Maxwell herself. She is a pedophile herself.
For Virginia Robert Giffrey, when Glenn Maxwell found her on
the property at mar A Lago and talked to her,
made her feel special with her posh British accent, seemed
interested in her and Virginia said, I want to be
a massage therapist. Basically, Glen did what she did to
so many other girls. She said, I can make your
dreams come true. Come with me to this fifty year
old man's house, a place where no child would go,
except except that they were being led by someone like Glenn,
who had this charm and this and this this veneer
of acceptability. She was a woman, after all, children don't
expect to be attacked by women.
Speaker 2: She brought him there.
Speaker 11: And that's where Virginia says that she was not only
molested and raped by Epstein, but by Glenn as well.
And in their trial Glenn perjured herself twice. And so
I think a lot of people forget in this case
that she is equally, if not more, liable for this
kind of assault and this kind of abuse. And people say, oh,
she's a victim, she's the only person who's been prosecuted.
Speaker 2: She's a woman.
Speaker 11: There's sexism there, but they don't understand that Glenn Maxwell
was Bonnie and Clyde thing. He needed her there, and
she's not a reliable witness and she's only going to
She still says she's innocent, and hundreds of hundreds of
women were call girls. Now women were call meeting her,
were brought in by her. So I think it's something
to remember today, and it's upsetting to them. I talked
to Annie Farmer, who was molested by Glenn Maxwell as
well at sixteen years old, and she said when she
heard that the Department of Justice, after she testified against
Glen Maxwell, spent years of her life building that case
that the prosecutors put forward in New York City. I mean,
when she heard that the dj was going to see
her and not and not the survivors, not the victims,
she said, it was heart wrenching, it was upsetting, It
made her stomach turn. It and they're revictimizing these women
by suggesting that Glenn has anything to say of value.
Speaker 1: Okay, she pronounces that, Gallaine, I'll go with that. Gallaine
Maxwell and her you heard her. Her point was is
that they're revictimizing the victims again by going to this
woman who's been convicted of child sex trafficking, et cetera,
et cetera and is spending twenty years in prison. Everybody
around the water cooler the day is saying that Gallain
Maxwell is cutting the deal with the number two guy
in the Justice Department to get basically a pardon or
at least a commutation of sentence. And you heard Tara
Paul Mary is pulling her hair out about this, going
wait a minute, this is an evil woman. So what
is the number two guy from the Justice Department asking? Well,
back to terror. She wants to see a transcript of
what happens in this meeting today.
Speaker 11: I don't think there's anything that you could learn from
Maxwell that you couldn't learn from the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein,
from the victims who testified, who are in the file,
who make up the files, with their subpoenas, with their testimonies,
with the work that they've done to help this case.
Speaker 2: Why would you go back.
Speaker 11: To the woman who complains over sorry, who claims over
and over again that she is innocent. She's not going
to give anything up. I mean, the best case scenario
for this administration is if she says Donald Trump had
nothing to do with this. I was innocent, He was innocent.
We just so happened to live in Palm Beach and
come across Jeffrey Epstein from time to time. I dated
him at one time in my life. But she's she's
never going to actually go deep into what happened here.
I mean, she's always maintained her innocence. So what does
she get out of this? That's the question. And like
you said, I really do. I think it would be
valuable if they released the transcript of their conversation so
that the American people can know what they actually talked
about in this private meeting. And if a deal was made,
why would she talk unless she's getting something out of it?
And I think, well, we probably will never know that.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of this that will never know.
But it just it just ramps up the mystery. And
the more you ramp up the mystery, the more people
are going to dig for details. So the meeting took
place today, han't heard boo about it. Maybe we'll get
some more information about it tomorrow. But I got the
feeling they're going to try and squash all of this
stuff and hope that it goes away by the time
that Congress comes back, which will be in September, their
August recess. I know it's not August, but they're already
on their August recess and they're not coming back until
after Labor Day. John You, who is a former deputy
Attorney general, he was asked about all of this today,
and he is a guy on the righty side of
the aisle. So let's see what John U has to say.
Speaker 12: It's extraordinary. In fact, I can't think of another time
in the history of the country where something like this
has happened. Top Blanche is the right hand man to
the Attorney General, the top federal law enforcement officer in
the entire United States. I worked for a deputy Attorney General.
I clarked for another judge who had been debuty attorney general.
They never said, ever, that when they were in those
jobs they would go down and meet with any suspect,
any witness, or anybody who's actually been convicted in serving time.
These people are way up at the top of our
justice system, and they're reaching all the way down to
intervene in on a matter which would usually just be
handled by assistant US attorney and FBI agents. I think
that's a sign of how seriously now the Trump administration
is taking this, how much. I think they're worried that
people are losing faith in the integrity of the Justice
Department leadership, that they would take someone of such high
standing and have them personally paid in interviewing someone like this.
I think the reason you send someone like Blanche instead
of an assistant US attorney is because you want to
show Maxwell that the government is serious about making some
kind of deal. Maxwell's not going to say a single word.
She has no incentive to say a single word unless
she gets some kind of benefit. She might be hoping
for a commutation of her sent sense to time serve.
She might even be hoping for a pardon, or at
the very least, she might hope to be moved to
a better facility that be less restrictive than the one
she's in. Now, you send Blanche because the Justice part
is saying we're serious about this. We may actually cut
a deal. But on the other hand, Maxwell's a convicted
sex offender. Why would we take anything she says truth seriously.
She's not to be trusted. She doesn't have credibility. So
that's why you also send the Deputy Attorney General.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm still scragging my head about why the very
next to the very top of the Justice Department is
going all the way down to a convicted sex offender
in a jail in Tallahassean. It just leads to more curiosity.
By the way, yesterday I told you that the House
was going to leave on their August recess without taking
a vote on getting the files from the Justice Department
to the House Oversight Committee. Well, last night, before they
did leave, the House Oversight Committee did hold a vote
on it to whether or not to subpoena the DOJ
for Epstein files. And surprise, surprise, even though the Republicans
have the majority in that committee, three Republicans voted in
favor of subpoenas for the Epstein files from the DOJ.
Now the chairman, James Comer has to sign off on
it before its official. But what it does is it
calls for all of the Epstein files, everything, depositions from
the Clintons, depositions from other big deals. James Comy, I mean,
it's a pretty thick file that is full of lots
of juice, and everybody's trying to see it and they're
trying to hide it. Also, by the way, it also
calls for communications between the former Biden officials on this
Epstein case. The three Republicans who voted in favor of
getting the Epstein files. Nancy Mace from South Carolina, Scott
Perry from Pennsylvania, and Brian Jack from Georgia, three Republicans
that went with the Democrats to get these Epstein files.
So then in the oh Bit column today more of
a surprise. I mean, yesterday we were talking about Malcolm
Jamal Warner and Ozzy Osbourne who died at seventy six
years old. Today we got word that Hulk Hogan, seventy
one years of age, passed away. Here is the Clearwater,
Florida Police talking about the call that they.
Speaker 13: Got senday in today. Clearwater Fire and Rescue along with
the Clairewater Police Department responded to a house in the
one thousand block of Eldorado Avenue for a medical related call.
Was discovery at that time Terry Bolea, also known as
Hulk Cogan, was experiencing a serious medical related issue. Personal
providing medical treatment at that time and transporting mister Bolaya
to Morton Planned Hospital where he died at eleven seventeen am.
The Clerical Police Department is conducting a death investigation, which
is standard in these types of cases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so whole Cogan had some sort of medical emergency.
Seventy one years of age passed away today, as you
heard in Clearwater, Florida, where he lives. And going back
a little bit further in time, back to the seventies
and eighties, Chuck Maggione, the big jazz guy, he passed
away today at the age of eighty four, wrote a
number of big hits. Probably his biggest hit was feels
So Good. And one more item about politics today, we
found out that Laura Trump has said no, she's not
going to run for the Senate North Carolina. But Michael Wattley,
who is the head of the Republican National Committee, who's
from North Carolina, said that he's in. He's going to
run for the Senate seat out of North Carolina. So
that's what's going on in politics on Wall Street today. Well,
the Dow got pulled down. One of the big Dow stocks,
United Healthcare, came out and said they're being investigated about
Medicare fraud. So that impacted the Dow in a negative way.
But we have new records slightly on other parts of
the market. But the Dow was down today three hundred
and sixteen to close at forty four thousand and six.
Ninety three. SMP was up four, new record high. NASDAK
up thirty seven, new record high. Gold was down twenty
seven dollars to thirty three seventy in. Oil was up
a dollar. Now it's sixty six dollars for one barrel
of oil. That's it for today. Thank you for coming by.
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