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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, two hours in, I just realized that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't talked a whole lot about Louisville football today, and

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been by design. I mean, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>planning on not talking about Louisville football because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's football season. I still think that Louisville fotball's got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to have a good season. I feel even

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<v Speaker 2>better about this team from a personnel standpoint than I

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<v Speaker 2>did before the Notre Dame game, But it still stings

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that it really has no true impact on what

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville can accomplish. I mean, it is a loss, and

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<v Speaker 2>any loss you have is going to change the perception.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're somebody looking for an at large essentially

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<v Speaker 2>for this college football playoff, you know those losses matter,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not a bad loss. But I'm somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>never really believed Louisville or any team in the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>would have much of a chance at getting in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff unless they won their unless they were the league winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think, I think it's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a one bid league. It could be wrong. We shall see,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is coffee and company that's us. We are

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<v Speaker 2>feel about. Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee with you. The company man, mister John all on

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<v Speaker 2>alongside today just like he is every day except yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Except yesterday. I mean, I guess I walked you into

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<v Speaker 2>that when I apologize. He's still a company man. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like he didn't show up. He took a scheduled day

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<v Speaker 2>off because he needed it to rest and recover from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a hell of a weekend. It louder than life.

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<v Speaker 2>So on Louisville football. You know, I there's nothing we

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<v Speaker 2>can do about it now, right, I mean continuing to

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<v Speaker 2>just complain and bitch, I guess for lack of a

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<v Speaker 2>better word, about all the mistakes they made. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it won't change anything. Uh, but it's one that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to stand out for a long time. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>what I've learned throughout just myself, not saying others agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me, but I've never acted like Notre Dame is

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<v Speaker 2>not a legitimate brand that does have value that most

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<v Speaker 2>do not in college football. Like I found myself a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the you know, the naysayers about Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not to say that they're a great team,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think they're great, which again is another

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<v Speaker 2>factor in why I was so bummed that Louisville made

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<v Speaker 2>so many mistakes that kept them from leading.

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<v Speaker 3>There with a victory.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're elite this year, but usually people

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<v Speaker 2>just hate Notre Dame unless you're Notre Dame fan, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. But like I've oftentimes found myself kind

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<v Speaker 2>of defending them, like they do have a national audience

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<v Speaker 2>and they're independent because they can be and nobody else

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<v Speaker 2>really could not the way that they can. Not to

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<v Speaker 2>say they're the greatest program, they're not, but like they

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<v Speaker 2>are rare for obvious reasons. So I've always felt that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think knowing that Louisville was the better team,

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<v Speaker 2>and again I know that I feel gross saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not the better team if you don't win.

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<v Speaker 2>But overall, if you look at the numbers and you

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<v Speaker 2>really look at the bone headed mistakes Louisville made that

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame had nothing to do with it, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>why that's why I say that, But I think it

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<v Speaker 2>being Notre Dame has added like if this was just

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<v Speaker 2>another opponent that was ranked sixteenth, but wasn't Notre Dame. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, trying to think of a like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just say Virginia Tech was really good this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were, and they were, you know, they were number

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen in the country, and you lost to them at

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<v Speaker 2>their place the same way, I kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it would still suck, but not as bad. And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess what I what I've learned is that, yeah, Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>like beating them even in a down year is something

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<v Speaker 2>that a program like Louisville should should always feel pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good about because of who Notre Dame is. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>move on, all right. We won'll get back to footballcause

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<v Speaker 2>there's some good football questions comeing in on the text line,

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<v Speaker 2>some good comments as well that we'll get to. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the LNN Federal Credit Union text line. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>to give us a call, you can five O two

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<v Speaker 2>five seven one seventy nine hundred with the five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour getting started. We do have open lines if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to join us via phone. All right, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk hoops really quickly though, because we are just a

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<v Speaker 2>few days away from Louisville Live. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get tickets. This is fifteen dollars general admission,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can get ten dollars if you are a

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<v Speaker 2>season ticket holder for Louisville men's or women's basketball. So

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<v Speaker 2>I hope to see a really good crowd there. Students

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<v Speaker 2>get in free if you are a member of the Villains,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the student section. So they're already promoting participants.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't said who, but I guess we'll find out here.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to probably unveil it on social media who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be participating in the three point shootout in

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<v Speaker 2>the slam dunk contest. And I've already had somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>the text line ask me who I would take in

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<v Speaker 2>both of those events. I'm gonna wait and see who's

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<v Speaker 2>who's actually participating, and then I'll give you an answer,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, as far as a dunk, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue. Like I think there's certain guys that I

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<v Speaker 2>could see being pretty impressive when it comes to not

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<v Speaker 2>just dunking, but you know, in a dunk contest setting.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as three point shootout. It could be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys. I mean, that's clearly one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things Pat Kelsey has always emphasized with his previous

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<v Speaker 2>teams at Charleston and Winthrop. But this this roster, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys he brought in. I mean, not

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<v Speaker 2>only are they good three point shooters, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys' main strengths as players. And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get back to louis a love later because again, there's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one visitor there that like, not just any visitor,

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<v Speaker 2>but I promise we'll get to that coming up around

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<v Speaker 2>five point thirty. John Rosstein, who covers college basketball, he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a college basketball robot. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the brand he seeks. If you follow him

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, you get it. If you don't, you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably better off. But he is somebody that does have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of resources, a lot of contacts. He has access,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's making trips to different programs across the country

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<v Speaker 2>to check in on practice, interview their coaches, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. And he made a trip to not only Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>but he just left Kentucky as well. So John Rostein

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<v Speaker 2>has given us what he observed at both Mark Pope's

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<v Speaker 2>practice and at Pat Kelsey's practice. We'll start with what

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<v Speaker 2>he said about Louisville, which is where he started. That

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<v Speaker 2>was and we did talk about this earlier in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know we have a new audience usually in

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<v Speaker 2>the five o'clock hour. But here here were his takeaways

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<v Speaker 2>from his trip to Louisville. The first thing he mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>was that let's see here, got to scroll down. Here

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<v Speaker 2>he shows a picture of the of This was just

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<v Speaker 2>a picture that he showed of the practice court which

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<v Speaker 2>loved the dunky Cardinal bird.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will not tolerate any slander of it. I mean, it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>The center court at the Young Center looks phenomenal. The

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<v Speaker 2>practice court though that the dunking bird's just too big.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful, but like it it should be. The size

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<v Speaker 2>should be reduced. Have you ever seen this, John, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what it looks like. I didn't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what the practice facility one looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean, though, like it looks a lot different.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna send it to you because like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>awesome the logo, but like I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 2>had to be so large, Like it's I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing on that massive, if I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>on that court, which I have by the way, as

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<v Speaker 2>I was a championship I was part of the championship

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<v Speaker 2>team with the Chrismack Fantasy Camp. But we played, we

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<v Speaker 2>played the other way, like we didn't go like it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was different, like we didn't. So anyways, like

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<v Speaker 2>if I was playing on that court, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I would never know if I'm out of bounds, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in another gym, Like it's really really I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's beautiful, but like it just should be smaller. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>he posted a picture that said, greetings from the five

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<v Speaker 2>oh two here for Louisville practice. You're one of the

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<v Speaker 2>pat Kelcierra. Then he went on to say traditional big

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<v Speaker 2>men are going to have issues matching up with Caseon

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<v Speaker 2>Pryor at center. Did Wonders as a pick and pop

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<v Speaker 2>guy last season at South Florida. Louisville looks comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>five out. Then he goes on to mention the back court,

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<v Speaker 2>says Louisvi's backcourt chuck yet burning Corn Johnson deceptively good,

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<v Speaker 2>cool calm experience shifty can both shoot it really good

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<v Speaker 2>duo Long Beach State transfer Abouba car Trail doesn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>in fifty to fifty balls, plays every single possession like

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<v Speaker 2>it's his last underrated pickup for Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get the.

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<v Speaker 2>Joke he doesn't believe in fifty fifty balls because he's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna get every one of them out love, which

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<v Speaker 2>is it fits for trey O Ray? So I agree

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<v Speaker 2>ross team and then he says a brand new team

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<v Speaker 2>with an entirely new roster is hard to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily for Louisville, we'll know how ready they are. Six

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<v Speaker 2>days into the twenty twenty four to twenty five season.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee visits the five H two on Saturday, November the ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he made a prediction for who he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>will be the starting five for Louisville this year. Chucky Hepburn,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this roster, you know well, because you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's what I do. It's part of the gig, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm a diehard fan. And each time

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys was being recruited and each time

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<v Speaker 2>they committed, like it was something we spent time talking

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<v Speaker 2>about on the show. But you could be I think

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<v Speaker 2>a fan that is a beyond casual that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Louisville basketball a big deal to you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just ran through rapid fire those five names, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably like, Okay, which one is that? Which one is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is weird, like this is unusual to have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an entirely new roster. So well, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I will probably never have a year like this again

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<v Speaker 2>where you have won an entirely new roster and there

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<v Speaker 2>are fans that quite literally are trying their damnedest, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they got lives, they got work, they got

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<v Speaker 2>other things to where it's gonna take them some time

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<v Speaker 2>when watching this team play to figure out who the

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<v Speaker 2>hell everybody is. But I'm here to tell you doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make you a bad fan, doesn't mean that you just haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Been keeping up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this is usually you have to learn a

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<v Speaker 2>few new names. Now you've got to learn an entire

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope that the trip to the Bahamas did

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<v Speaker 2>help some folks get acclimated somewhat with the new pieces here,

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<v Speaker 2>but here, here's the thirty five second clip. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Rawstein Reaction. It's a video series he does after each

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<v Speaker 2>of his stops at different college basketball programs. Here's what

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<v Speaker 4>John Rothstein with this Rothstein reaction after watching Louisville practice.

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<v Speaker 4>The energy and the intensity in Pat Kelsey's practice on

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday was second to none. The Cards also have a

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<v Speaker 4>deceptively good backcourt with Wisconsin transfer Chucky Hepburn and also

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<v Speaker 4>Washington transfer Corn Johnson. Louisville has a brand new team,

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<v Speaker 4>but Louisville will be one of the most improved teams

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<v Speaker 4>If the Cards can stay healthy, they look like a

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm I'm doing the thing here, like as a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not take any like if somebody doesn't think

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville's as good as I do. I've always, i feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty good at not taking that as like they're haters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, they see it differently, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing crazy that he said. But I'm finding myself like,

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<v Speaker 3>Mean deceptively good?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean You look at these guys Chucky,

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<v Speaker 2>Hepburn and Korn Johnson and you think that they look

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<v Speaker 2>like they suck, but they don't. So like they're deceptively good.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say it?

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<v Speaker 2>Rostein one of the most improved teams in college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't take much, dude. They won four games two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and won eight games last year. Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>not saying anything crazy, but just about everybody around here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say a lot of people who do

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<v Speaker 2>what Rostein does view Louisville a little bit differently than

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<v Speaker 2>he does. They could be a bubble team in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the ACC. But I'm kind of worried because, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's crazy. I have no clue. I'm well

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<v Speaker 2>aware that we'll have to wait and see. As I've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned many times with both teams Louisville and Kentucky, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate unknown. However, like the ACC is not

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<v Speaker 2>even that good of a league anymore, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make me worried, but it's just a reminder

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<v Speaker 2>that like, yeah, I think we are justified in thinking

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<v Speaker 2>this is a tournament caliber team with the roster that

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey put together, with the ACC not being a

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<v Speaker 2>league that you're really that scared of outside of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of teams, and Pat Kelsey's track record of

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<v Speaker 2>being a winner. I mean, go look at Pat Kelsey's

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<v Speaker 2>record as a coach. Everywhere he's been he wins. Expecting

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<v Speaker 2>him to win enough to get in the tournament at

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<v Speaker 2>a place like Louisville with these types of players, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's it's it should be expected, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he would agree. So he didn't say anything like negative,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wouldn't like there's not going to be any

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<v Speaker 2>of these videos that he's done, and he's done many

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<v Speaker 2>of them where he's gonna like, yeah, they might win

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<v Speaker 2>four games, like you know, so it's you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you didn't think he said anything crazy there, right, John?

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<v Speaker 2>Talk me off the ledge of like I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>Come back to Louisville again, Buddy. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 3>weird that in the the stuff that you read earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>he seemed like he was very complimentary, but whenever he did.

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<v Speaker 2>The video is underwhelming, right, Yeah, when he does.

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<v Speaker 3>This stand up, it sounds like he's trying to talk

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville down a little bit more compared to what he wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>And as much as he is a big name in

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<v Speaker 2>the college hoops world as far as reporting and coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like to make fun of him because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's easy. I mean he I mean, he can't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if people think he's a psycho with Like,

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<v Speaker 2>obscure college basketball piece of news. You know, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and Joe Biden are having a debate and they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>a golf match and bringing up porn stars and morals

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<v Speaker 2>of an alley cat all while John Rostein, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows the timelines filled with everybody just living in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment with that insane debate. But he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know Cleveland State has put ink to paper.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a home and home with Montana State. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's a nut, But he didn't say any Like

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<v Speaker 2>his tweets and what he put in video, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>I like you could just like, here, let me paste

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<v Speaker 2>a link of what somebody wrote up about Louisville's roster

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<v Speaker 2>after the portal closed, those tweets would be generated, and

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<v Speaker 2>he might be AI anyways with the robot stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you may have kind of touched on this earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>But what does deceptively good even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It means you're good, but I would have thought you weren't, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, I mean, it's just a weird phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean like because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like a lot of people are. So he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem like he thought louis would be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he didn't really say a whole lot, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, Like it was very vanilla. But

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<v Speaker 2>like when I when I've heard the let me give

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<v Speaker 2>you the best example for deceptively good white dudes who

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<v Speaker 2>can dunk. He's deceptively athletic like that they're saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have expected him to be able to cram on

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<v Speaker 2>dudes in the NBA because he's white. Like, That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what people mean when they say deceptive. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's like he looks at Hepburn and Corey Johnson, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, they're not big guys. They're not crazy athletic,

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<v Speaker 2>although Chucky Hepburn, I mean he's Chucky. I think Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>Hepburn is a really good player and he showed that

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<v Speaker 2>I think at Washington or Wisconsin. So yeah, he could

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<v Speaker 2>have just said they're a good backcourt. But the deceptive

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<v Speaker 2>is almost like a backhanded compliment, right like, Hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys may think I'm crazy when I say you these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are good, but you know, watch and you'll realize

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of good. Like that's you know. So then

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<v Speaker 2>he made the trip to Lexington and here's what he

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<v Speaker 2>had to say, the same thing again. This is Ai

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<v Speaker 2>took a picture of Kentucky's practice court. Greetings from Lexington

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<v Speaker 2>here for Kentucky practice. You're one of the Mark Pope era,

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<v Speaker 2>he says. The surprise here at Kentucky practice has been

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<v Speaker 2>freshman guard Colin Chandler, former BYU commit, hasn't played in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit due to Mormon mission, but is really talented

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in the Wildcat's rotation. Mark Pope tells

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<v Speaker 2>me that Wake Forest transfer Andrew Carr has been Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 2>most efficient player going to be a major focal point

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<v Speaker 2>at power forward. The Cat's staff feels he can have

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<v Speaker 2>a similar impact to Grant Nelson last season in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>The makeup of Kentucky's perimeter is going to be fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. Cats have five players Lamont Butler, kerk Chris

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<v Speaker 2>la Otega Away, Kobe Brea, Jackson Robinson for three spots,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of different pieces to mix and match. Early prediction

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<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky starting five Lamont Butler, Kobe Brea, Jackson Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Carr, and Amari Williams. And here is what in

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<v Speaker 2>he gave sixteen more seconds to Kentucky than he did Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not welcome back in Louisville, Rosstein? Who else did

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<v Speaker 2>we do?

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<v Speaker 1>We?

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<v Speaker 3>You and Cats?

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Andy, you talked to me before you come back,

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<v Speaker 2>John Rothstein.

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<v Speaker 4>What does Rostein reaction after watch Yeah Kentucky practice in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 4>The Wildcats have known commodities with Jackson, Robinson, Andrew Carr,

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<v Speaker 4>and Drexel transfer Amari Williams. But the mystery surrounding Kentucky

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<v Speaker 4>entering twenty four to twenty five is the type of

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<v Speaker 4>a lot I meant that Mark Pope uses in the

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<v Speaker 4>Wildcats backcourt to start the season. There's a bevy of

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<v Speaker 4>options at Pope's disposal. Laman Butler, Korcrisa, Kobe Brya, otega

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<v Speaker 4>Oway all looked like potential starters for Pope, who has

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<v Speaker 4>a brand new team from last season. Kentucky looks like

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<v Speaker 4>an NCAA tournament team in twenty twenty five, but the

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<v Speaker 4>makeup of the perimeter will be fascinating to watch from

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<v Speaker 4>now until opening night on November fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I've learned. He got to watch practice for

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<v Speaker 2>both teams, you know, inside access, and he didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>tell us anything. Like what he said was what everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was saying about these rosters before they ever even practiced

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<v Speaker 2>at any point. And I'm not just saying that because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he wasn't raving about Louisville and he really

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't raving about Kentucky either.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, like would he say, like not

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<v Speaker 3>even just him, what would anybody who has inside access

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<v Speaker 3>really be able to say from just watching a practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not, I mean, not a whole lot. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get I mean again, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. And then leave and then go on and

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<v Speaker 2>go and blast that program on Twitter. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>this though, Jeff Goodman, who you know, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>the leader when it comes to college basketball coverage from

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<v Speaker 2>top to bottom, and a lot of people don't like him,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, that's what I mean. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's now out there not as just a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who reports news and breaks stories. He's you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>on camera, he's on Mike, So like part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is getting a rise out of fans and the entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>component to what it is that you know, you do

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<v Speaker 2>in sports media. So regardless of what you think of him,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's really good at breaking stories and I think

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<v Speaker 2>sharing honest thoughts that aren't persuaded by his relationships with

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<v Speaker 2>certain coaches. There's one coach that he is really, really,

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<v Speaker 2>really a big fan of, and that's Bill Self. He

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<v Speaker 2>really seems to like tiptoe that a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody else. But like, I know how close he

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<v Speaker 2>is with coach Mack obviously really close with Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys, but he'll if he thinks that they're struggling,

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks that they're bad, he'll say it. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like, not personally, but I think Goodman

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<v Speaker 2>would have given us more from both sides and it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been more transparent. This was just whatever. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not Rostine's fault. It's just he kind of dresses

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<v Speaker 2>it up like I'm about to give you inside access

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<v Speaker 2>from what I saw, and it really wasn't that. But

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<v Speaker 2>to your point, John, I'm glad you asked the question,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not really sure what could be taken from this.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, not only do we love college basketball more

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody else around here, there's so much anticipation and

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<v Speaker 2>excitement because this is all brand new. None of us

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<v Speaker 2>really know how good either team's going to be, although

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<v Speaker 2>I think fans are just are justified in expecting their

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<v Speaker 2>team to be tournament caliber teams this year. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're probably a little more on edge than we've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as just any little piece of info, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to get it, because man, we've never seen any

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<v Speaker 2>of this before, right, I mean, we got to tease

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<v Speaker 2>with the Bahamas, but that I think that just love

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<v Speaker 2>just wanting more. All right, let's get to a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Some good questions

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<v Speaker 2>coming in on the text line. Also, I watched a

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix series nine episodes in roughly twenty four hours. That's

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<v Speaker 2>and you know we'll finish strong. I'm gonna stop talking

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<v Speaker 2>textas Nick, when it comes to ACC play, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to win all of the games we are supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to Yes, sorry, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>did talk to text, but there was a there was

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<v Speaker 2>a period before there's a period that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be there. But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>a ccplay, we need to win all the games we

448
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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to win and split between Clemson and Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how the tiebreaker breaker will work if

450
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<v Speaker 2>there are multiple teams with just one loss. That's a

451
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<v Speaker 2>great question. I don't know how it would play out,

452
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<v Speaker 2>and I remember last year there being a lot of

453
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<v Speaker 2>different scenarios that could have been an issue, but it

454
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<v Speaker 2>didn't need. You know, Louisville once they beat Miami last year,

455
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<v Speaker 2>you know they were in there was no there was

456
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<v Speaker 2>no tie breaker needed because they had one loss and

457
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<v Speaker 2>Florida State had no losses and then there was no

458
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<v Speaker 2>other team of just one loss.

459
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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they never really had to utilize a tiebreaker, I

461
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<v Speaker 2>don't remember, but I do know that at some point

462
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<v Speaker 2>there was a scenario where Louisville having a weak ACC

463
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<v Speaker 2>schedule could have come back to bite them if they

464
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<v Speaker 2>were a one loss team and the one loss team

465
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<v Speaker 2>along with them was not somebody they played. If you're

466
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<v Speaker 2>a one loss team and you have the head to head,

467
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<v Speaker 2>it's a different story. But if you don't play this

468
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<v Speaker 2>team that also has one loss or I don't know,

469
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<v Speaker 2>maybe two losses or something like that, there was some

470
00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.279
<v Speaker 2>there was some type of scenario where they would have

471
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<v Speaker 2>factored in the winning percentage of all the ACC teams

472
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<v Speaker 2>you played. So we don't need to get into that now,

473
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<v Speaker 2>and I don't you know, I don't know if it's

474
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<v Speaker 2>going to come to that, but yeah, I mean, if

475
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville ends up like Miami, though, you know, they may

476
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<v Speaker 2>run the table in ACC play. But they nearly lost

477
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<v Speaker 2>to Virginia Tech, who lost at home to Vandy or

478
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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was at Vandy, but Vandy doesn't even

479
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<v Speaker 2>have home games because you know, they're Vandy, So you know, Miami,

480
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>they're deserving of all the praise they're getting. But it

481
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<v Speaker 2>was nice to see them look beatable for the first

482
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<v Speaker 2>time whenever they took on Virginia Tech this past Friday.

483
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<v Speaker 2>And obviously that was a controversial finish. When it comes

484
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to the touchdown that they called a catch and then

485
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.440
<v Speaker 2>rule that it wasn't, it's wild to me. And by

486
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<v Speaker 2>the way, I don't want to get off on a

487
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<v Speaker 2>tangent when it comes to that, because that was you know,

488
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<v Speaker 2>it was last week. But I can't remember a call

489
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<v Speaker 2>where there was so much reaction and not many were

490
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear a single one of like, yeah, I

491
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<v Speaker 2>don't really know. That's tough. People either were downright convinced

492
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<v Speaker 2>and wanted to fight about it being a catch that

493
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<v Speaker 2>they got wrong or the call they got right. I

494
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<v Speaker 2>happened to think that it was not a catch in

495
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<v Speaker 2>real time, but I didn't think they had enough in

496
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<v Speaker 2>review to say it that it wasn't. But anyways, yeah,

497
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<v Speaker 2>to answer your question, I don't know of the toimebreaker scenario,

498
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<v Speaker 2>but one thing you don't have to worry about. Before

499
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<v Speaker 2>the season started, I would have felt like, damn, you

500
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<v Speaker 2>don't have you don't have NC State or Florida State

501
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>on your schedule this year. Man, Like those are teams

502
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>that were picked ahead of you and now they suck.

503
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 2>So like turns out, who knows, maybe Georgia Tech ends

504
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<v Speaker 2>up being a team in the in the ACC that

505
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<v Speaker 2>will look like a good win when it comes down

506
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<v Speaker 2>to having not only potentially seven wins or you know, Louisville,

507
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<v Speaker 2>Mabe they go in you know louis Again, Notre Dame

508
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<v Speaker 2>is not a league. I know Notre Dame is not

509
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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC, but I found myself needing to remind

510
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<v Speaker 2>myself every now and then that that's not a conference game.

511
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<v Speaker 2>They do have one loss on the year, but it

512
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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with ACC play, So for what

513
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<v Speaker 2>it's worth, the schedules, I just pulled them up here.

514
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<v Speaker 2>So Miami they are currently looks like one to zero

515
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<v Speaker 2>in ACC play because they're gonna play their second ACC

516
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<v Speaker 2>game this Saturday night when they play CA like cow

517
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<v Speaker 2>by the way, the game day's going to be there,

518
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 2>and then they've got Louisville on the nineteenth, So they

519
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>play Florida State, they play Duke, who's undefeated, but I'm

520
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.119
<v Speaker 2>not sure how good they are. They've got Georgia Tech

521
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, they play Wake Forest, who sucks, and then

522
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>they play Syracuse. So you know, I think their schedule,

523
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<v Speaker 2>you know, it looks Miamis schedule looks pretty pretty manageable

524
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>for them, to be honest with you, because now we

525
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<v Speaker 2>know Florida State's not a game they should feel they

526
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<v Speaker 2>should feel that worried about. I mean, I'll be honest

527
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>with you, I think looking at Miami schedule, I'd be

528
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<v Speaker 2>shocked if they didn't run the table and Louisville at

529
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>this point. I don't think we're homers in saying that

530
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville is clearly the biggest challenge they're going to have

531
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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way. And I don't say that

532
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<v Speaker 2>to prop Louisville up. I say that more so looking

533
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<v Speaker 2>at how surprisingly favorable the schedule is for the Hurricanes,

534
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>but upsets happened. I mean, there's in fact the ACC

535
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like more often than not they'll be a

536
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<v Speaker 2>one loss team or maybe two one loss teams in

537
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<v Speaker 2>the Champion and Ship game. That has a loss that

538
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 2>like doesn't make sense. It's one of the worst teams

539
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 2>in the league. So looking at Clemson, they are now

540
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 2>two and zero in league play, with wins against n

541
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>C State and Stanford. They've got Florida State this weekend,

542
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 2>which used to be a big deal when those two

543
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 2>teams play, Not not as much. They've got Wake Forest

544
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 2>at wake Forest, who really sucks. They've got Virginia at home,

545
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Louisville at home, Virginia Tech on the road, Pitt at Pitt,

546
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>then they play the Citadel. Yeah, so their last two

547
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>games of the season actually are not acc games. So

548
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it's safe to say at least

549
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 2>what we know right now, and maybe we're way off here.

550
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we revisit this in a few weeks and we're

551
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>in this. This sounds really stupid to have said at

552
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>this time. I think Louisville is the biggest threat to

553
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>both of these teams, Miami and and Clemson, and Louisll's

554
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>got to play both of them. They don't play each other,

555
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>so you know, that doesn't look that that doesn't bode

556
00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.319
<v Speaker 2>well for Louisville. But if you can split, like if

557
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 2>you beat all the teams are supposed to beat in

558
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>league play and you split Clemson in Miami, Yeah, you

559
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 2>could potentially find yourself in the ACC championship game. I mean, yeah,

560
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>we're still gonna wait and have to wait and see

561
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>what other teams do. I mean, there's some teams that

562
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 2>have only played one league game at this point. But no,

563
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 2>you're right, like I mean, if you lose to a SMU,

564
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean that makes winning against Miami and Clemson even

565
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>much more important. And those are not going to be

566
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>easy things to do. Those are gonna be games that

567
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 2>you will absolutely be underdogs in. I mean, you can't win,

568
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean you can't slip up against the

569
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>teams that you feel like you should beat whenever. You know, hey,

570
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you could play well and still slip up and lose

571
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to those two teams. And look, Clemson, I'm not here

572
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to say that, Like I think Louisville has no shot.

573
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>But they're loss to Georgia, which wasn't a great one

574
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>thirty four to three. They've responded really well since then.

575
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Now I also realized they haven't played anybody. But how

576
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>how wild would it be if Florida State beats Clemson?

577
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<v Speaker 3>Would that just be more of a confirmation of just

578
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 3>how bad I hate to say bad, but just not

579
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 3>good the ACC is.

580
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course it would be. Yeah, I mean it

581
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>would be a terrible look for the ACC. It would

582
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>be god awful. I mean, in Louisville losing SMU, I

583
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>think would would also be a bad look for.

584
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 3>The league at that point. Who's the best team?

585
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, and at the end of the day, like,

586
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I know we do. We say we don't, but you

587
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>know we do. In fact, I don't think I say that.

588
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

589
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>It's out of my control, so I try not to

590
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>worry about it. But like, the perception of your league

591
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is a big factor in college football more so than

592
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>it is basketball, and the ACC's perception is not great now.

593
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>But like, if a three loss ACC team is the

594
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>one that represents the league and the College Football Playoff,

595
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>that would be the worst look. The AEC is not

596
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 2>going to get the benefit of doubt at all, and

597
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't, to be honest with you, if that, if

598
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>that ends up happening, but I doubt that'll happen. I

599
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>think I think it'll be Miami and potentially Clemson and

600
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 2>UH or Louisville and then outside that, I mean, I

601
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even be able to tell you who has the

602
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>best chance of winning the of winning the I mean,

603
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they updated every week as far as the

604
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>percentages with the ESPNFPI and I don't put much into that,

605
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>but it is at least something to reference. SMU I

606
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>feel like has has had like the third and fourth

607
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 2>best chances of winning the league for a while and

608
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be because of how their schedule sets up.

609
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>So they've already played Florida State, which you know before

610
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the season started that was probably looking like a sure loss.

611
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Now they've got yeah, they've got Louisville, Stanford, Duke Pitt,

612
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Boston College, Virginia Cow. I'm ready to say it without

613
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 2>looking elsewhere, that has to be the lightest ACC schedule

614
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>of anybody's. And look, that's just sometimes how it happens.

615
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Louisvill last year, let's be real that that was a

616
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>very light ACC schedule compared to other teams. But Florida

617
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>State again, now that we know they stink the other

618
00:29:54.599 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>ACC teams, they play Stanford, Louisville, Duke Pitt, Boston College,

619
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<v Speaker 2>Virginia and Cal. I mean, maybe SMU is going to

620
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>be the team that's there because outside of Louisville, if

621
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<v Speaker 2>they were able to get past Louisville, they would feel

622
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 2>good about every other game on their schedule. Sorry for

623
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the getting distracted. I'm blown away by how manageable that is.

624
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm saying manageable instead of same week because you know,

625
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 2>last year we were kind of triggered by everybody's saying

626
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<v Speaker 2>that we had a week schedule, even though we kind

627
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<v Speaker 2>of knew that we did.

628
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<v Speaker 3>You know who's getting tossed him with that now is Indiana.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their schedule is somewhat similar because you know, they

630
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<v Speaker 2>could slip up and lose to both. I mean, they

631
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 2>could go ten and two and only two losses be

632
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>to Michigan and Ohio State, and they really wouldn't have

633
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 2>probably many wins we're talking about, but who gives a

634
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>damn right? No exactly, But if they're ten and two

635
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>with those two losses and their best win would be

636
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>who like right, Nan Again, we'll see, there'll probably be.

637
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Either Nebraska or Washington if they lose to Michigan in

638
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Ohio State, maybe Michigan State, depending on how good they

639
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>end up being. But they already had that loss to

640
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Boston College.

641
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, I and it still sounds crazy,

642
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>but at this point, like I would say, objective viewers

643
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>of college football and the Big Ten specifically, they probably

644
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't just say, yeah, Indiana is going to be ten

645
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and two, But if they did take a look at

646
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>the schedule and give it some thought, I'd say like

647
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>nine to three would probably be what a lot of

648
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 2>them would just assume that you end up probably losing

649
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>to those teams because they are still really good. Although

650
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota probably should have beat Michigan, right, yeah, I mean I.

651
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't give Michigan a ton of credit for their top ranking.

652
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Areer, Yeah they don't. Yeah, I mean who who they

653
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>end up beating?

654
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 3>But yet it was USC?

655
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah and that yeah, I mean that's probably a

656
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>bad look for USC more than it was anything else.

657
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>But still, I mean, beating Michigan is not something that

658
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>many teams will probably.

659
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Be again home, so we'll see what happens there.

660
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>So you know, outside of those two games, like maybe

661
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody says you slip up to a team unexpectedly because

662
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>that just happens to most teams in college football, but

663
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>most teams in college football aren't coached by Signetti, he's

664
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>getting some love Indiana football being mentioned last night on

665
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Football by Joe Buck. I mean, that's not

666
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>something I would have expected this year, but he you know,

667
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought when he came out and said the whole

668
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>google me, I'm a winner, I thought at the time

669
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 2>that was a gimmick, at least seventy five eighty percent gimmick.

670
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>And even at the time, I was cool with it.

671
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Not that anybody cares what I think about Indiana, but

672
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>like I thought, yeah, that's that'll get Indiana some attention.

673
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>This guy's confidence, and you know, that's that's the first step,

674
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>right everybody involved. I mean, it's good for the entire thing, administration, staff, players, fans.

675
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>You gotta believe you can actually do something before it happens, right,

676
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>You got to have some belief and some confidence about yourself.

677
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And Signetti certainly has that given his track record. He's

678
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>been a winner everywhere he's been and it's rubbed off

679
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and they're not just you know, beating teams that they're

680
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>you know that they're better than, but like they're winning

681
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty big and even in years where Indiana was like

682
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 2>decent for Indiana, they probably would have lost one or

683
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 2>two of these games, because that's just what Indiana kind

684
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of like. The ceiling's never been really high for them,

685
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>at least for the most part.

686
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Can say it's about Signetty. Maybe you'll disagree with this,

687
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 3>but I think the way that he kind of acts

688
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and portrays himself, he's Dion Sanders, but with substance behind

689
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 3>what he says.

690
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's not, but he's not as arrogant like he's.

691
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Dion is more of a show. Yeah, Signetti is more

692
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>of straight to facts and not like he's not going

693
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>to spend five minutes talking about himself. He'll just tell you.

694
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 2>He'll just tell you what it is, you know what

695
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean. That's fair, so I can see. You know,

696
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.759
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly got a lot of confidence about himself, but

697
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not as much and it's not really in your face.

698
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just he's not going to go out of his

699
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>way to say, everybody, look at me, I'm great. But

700
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>when when talking about his program, the way he coaches

701
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 2>in his career, he has no problem in speaking you know,

702
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>facts and the facts back him up. And I mean

703
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>it is wild and I think it's one of the

704
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>best you know, maybe I'm a little biased here just

705
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>because of you and the local connection, but I think

706
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 2>it's one of the best. I think it's one of

707
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the best stories in college football right now. Does he

708
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>have two ends in his name or just one?

709
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Just one?

710
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

711
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the google me line, like I think because

712
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it's Indiana, like everybody kind of thought, you know, it's

713
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of cute because hey, he's trying to bring attention

714
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to Indiana. But like it's true, all.

715
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Three of the teams that he said sucked in that

716
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>little speech. He gave an assembly hall. That's who he

717
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 3>ends the season with. That's Mission, Ohio State and Purdue.

718
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

719
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a winner, no doub about it. All right, quick, breck,

720
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side. Wrap this thing up.

721
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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and Company. We are fuel about Thornton's right

722
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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

723
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<v Speaker 1>Head.

724
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<v Speaker 2>Owners, if you don't have anywhere to take your pets

725
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<v Speaker 2>to get him checked out, or you don't have a

726
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727
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<v Speaker 2>emergency happens with your pets, I'm here to tell you

728
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<v Speaker 2>that Jefferson Animal Hospital is your place. I mean, not

729
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.519
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730
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<v Speaker 2>an emergency. They just kind of happen and it can

731
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732
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<v Speaker 2>At Jefferson Animal Hospital, they're open twenty four hours a day,

733
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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty five days a year, even on Christmas.

734
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<v Speaker 2>They've got a doctor on standby in case of an emergency.

735
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<v Speaker 2>But you can also reach out to them schedule appointments,

736
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<v Speaker 2>just to get your pets to check up. It's Jefferson

737
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<v Speaker 2>Vetts dot com, the website. Give him a call FABO

738
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<v Speaker 2>two nine one hundred pets. All right, So when I

739
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Louisville Live, you know it's a recruiting tool, and

740
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>we know recruiting is a little bit different now because

741
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>we still say recruiting and think of high school kids. However,

742
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 2>transfer portal is a part of that. It has been

743
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>for the last couple of years. Maybe eventually when you

744
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 2>say recruiting, we won't. But here's the thing. You can't

745
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>recruit players that aren't in the portal yet. So I

746
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe it will be two things we look

747
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>at much differently. But Tyron Stokes, we've talked about him before,

748
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>not a ton but his name's come up. He is

749
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 2>believed to be the very best player in the world

750
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 2>for his age, and he's from right here in Louisville.

751
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>He's a six to seven, two hundred and forty five

752
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>pound wing. He's in the twenty twenty sixth class. So

753
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>he still has another year of high school left after

754
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>this year, and he's got offers from just about everybody.

755
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>He'll be able to pick wherever he wants to go

756
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 2>to school. And he's going to be visiting for Louisville Live.

757
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to exaggerate and like make this

758
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>thing a bigger deal than it is, but like it

759
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>is a big deal, not to say that an impression

760
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>here would make it to where he's going to make

761
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 2>a decision soon or anything like that. But you have

762
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>a chance to really make an impression that should stick

763
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>with him. Now, Louisville's going to have to beat out

764
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>every team in the country to get this guy, because

765
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>again he's the number one player in America. But again,

766
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>he's got family here still to this day, it's home

767
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 2>to him. He hasn't been here in a while. I mean,

768
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>he left Louisville at a young young age to go

769
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>be a to go be a star. He's been playing

770
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>for different you know, academies and whatnot, and he's he's

771
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>been to I think, I think you just transferred to

772
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a different high school or maybe transferred to the overtime League.

773
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but he's bounced around and everywhere he's

774
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>been he's been really impressive. And he'll be here and

775
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 2>that just makes me not nervous. But I do hope

776
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that Lower Bowl is close to full. The atmosphere is great,

777
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and Louisville basketball can really you know, the program. Pat

778
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Kelcey and his program can really showcase not just Tyron Stokes,

779
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>but any other recruit that's there visiting because Louisvill basketball,

780
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 2>let's be real the perception of the program. And it's

781
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>not perception, it's reality. Lowel basketball has been down like

782
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 2>big time. We all know historically what it's been. We

783
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>all know the capability that you have here at Louisville

784
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>if you utilize all the great things that you have

785
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 2>as far as fan base, resources, arena and all that stuff.

786
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>But kids, I mean, Tyron Stokes is what's sixteen. Maybe

787
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't remember the last time Louisville was like nationally

788
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 2>relevant he might remember when Louisville was the number one

789
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 2>team in the country, but I doubt it. That was

790
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>four years ago, five seasons ago actually, and that point.

791
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's a little kid, So these kind of

792
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 2>things we used to feel like, yeah, it'd be cool,

793
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>but we don't really need it. Hey, look, it's not

794
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>something you have to have to be great, but like

795
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it's something we've known all our life, so we're not

796
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>like we know what can happen here. But I think

797
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>you need some early success. You need to really show

798
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>out because the perception here recently is not good. And

799
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>again it's because it's reality. Louisvill basketball has been way down,

800
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 2>but it won't be down for long. I'm just hopeful

801
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>that there's a great turnout in the atmosphere. Is great

802
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 2>to make an impression on this young man who probably

803
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 2>won't make a decision for a long time.

804
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 4>But.

805
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Be special.

806
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's call it a day. Everybody, have a

807
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 2>good night. We're back at it tomorrow and I hope

808
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys will join us at three o'clock right here

809
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety
