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Speaker 2: You know, two hours in, I just realized that I
Speaker 2: haven't talked a whole lot about Louisville football today, and
Speaker 2: it might have been by design. I mean, I wasn't
Speaker 2: planning on not talking about Louisville football because you know,
Speaker 2: it's football season. I still think that Louisville fotball's got
Speaker 2: a chance to have a good season. I feel even
Speaker 2: better about this team from a personnel standpoint than I
Speaker 2: did before the Notre Dame game, But it still stings
Speaker 2: knowing that it really has no true impact on what
Speaker 2: Louisville can accomplish. I mean, it is a loss, and
Speaker 2: any loss you have is going to change the perception.
Speaker 2: And if you're somebody looking for an at large essentially
Speaker 2: for this college football playoff, you know those losses matter,
Speaker 2: and it's not a bad loss. But I'm somebody that's
Speaker 2: never really believed Louisville or any team in the ACC
Speaker 2: would have much of a chance at getting in the
Speaker 2: playoff unless they won their unless they were the league winner.
Speaker 2: Like I think, I think it's probably going to be
Speaker 2: a one bid league. It could be wrong. We shall see,
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Speaker 2: alongside today just like he is every day except yesterday.
Speaker 2: Except yesterday. I mean, I guess I walked you into
Speaker 2: that when I apologize. He's still a company man. Wasn't
Speaker 2: like he didn't show up. He took a scheduled day
Speaker 2: off because he needed it to rest and recover from
Speaker 2: you know, a hell of a weekend. It louder than life.
Speaker 2: So on Louisville football. You know, I there's nothing we
Speaker 2: can do about it now, right, I mean continuing to
Speaker 2: just complain and bitch, I guess for lack of a
Speaker 2: better word, about all the mistakes they made. I mean,
Speaker 2: it won't change anything. Uh, but it's one that's going
Speaker 2: to stand out for a long time. And I think
Speaker 2: what I've learned throughout just myself, not saying others agree
Speaker 2: with me, but I've never acted like Notre Dame is
Speaker 2: not a legitimate brand that does have value that most
Speaker 2: do not in college football. Like I found myself a
Speaker 2: lot of the you know, the naysayers about Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: and it's not to say that they're a great team,
Speaker 2: because I don't think they're great, which again is another
Speaker 2: factor in why I was so bummed that Louisville made
Speaker 2: so many mistakes that kept them from leading.
Speaker 3: There with a victory.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're elite this year, but usually people
Speaker 2: just hate Notre Dame unless you're Notre Dame fan, and
Speaker 2: I get it. But like I've oftentimes found myself kind
Speaker 2: of defending them, like they do have a national audience
Speaker 2: and they're independent because they can be and nobody else
Speaker 2: really could not the way that they can. Not to
Speaker 2: say they're the greatest program, they're not, but like they
Speaker 2: are rare for obvious reasons. So I've always felt that way.
Speaker 2: But I think knowing that Louisville was the better team,
Speaker 2: and again I know that I feel gross saying that,
Speaker 2: because you're not the better team if you don't win.
Speaker 2: But overall, if you look at the numbers and you
Speaker 2: really look at the bone headed mistakes Louisville made that
Speaker 2: Notre Dame had nothing to do with it, Like that's
Speaker 2: why that's why I say that, But I think it
Speaker 2: being Notre Dame has added like if this was just
Speaker 2: another opponent that was ranked sixteenth, but wasn't Notre Dame. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, trying to think of a like, let's
Speaker 2: just say Virginia Tech was really good this year, and
Speaker 2: they were, and they were, you know, they were number
Speaker 2: sixteen in the country, and you lost to them at
Speaker 2: their place the same way, I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: it would still suck, but not as bad. And I
Speaker 2: guess what I what I've learned is that, yeah, Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: like beating them even in a down year is something
Speaker 2: that a program like Louisville should should always feel pretty
Speaker 2: good about because of who Notre Dame is. But we'll
Speaker 2: move on, all right. We won'll get back to footballcause
Speaker 2: there's some good football questions comeing in on the text line,
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Speaker 2: talk hoops really quickly though, because we are just a
Speaker 2: few days away from Louisville Live. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you can't get tickets. This is fifteen dollars general admission,
Speaker 2: and you can get ten dollars if you are a
Speaker 2: season ticket holder for Louisville men's or women's basketball. So
Speaker 2: I hope to see a really good crowd there. Students
Speaker 2: get in free if you are a member of the Villains,
Speaker 2: which is the student section. So they're already promoting participants.
Speaker 2: They haven't said who, but I guess we'll find out here.
Speaker 2: They're going to probably unveil it on social media who's
Speaker 2: going to be participating in the three point shootout in
Speaker 2: the slam dunk contest. And I've already had somebody on
Speaker 2: the text line ask me who I would take in
Speaker 2: both of those events. I'm gonna wait and see who's
Speaker 2: who's actually participating, and then I'll give you an answer,
Speaker 2: because I mean, as far as a dunk, I have
Speaker 2: no clue. Like I think there's certain guys that I
Speaker 2: could see being pretty impressive when it comes to not
Speaker 2: just dunking, but you know, in a dunk contest setting.
Speaker 2: But as far as three point shootout. It could be
Speaker 2: a lot of guys. I mean, that's clearly one of
Speaker 2: the things Pat Kelsey has always emphasized with his previous
Speaker 2: teams at Charleston and Winthrop. But this this roster, a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys he brought in. I mean, not
Speaker 2: only are they good three point shooters, that's that's a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys' main strengths as players. And we'll
Speaker 2: get back to louis a love later because again, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be one visitor there that like, not just any visitor,
Speaker 2: but I promise we'll get to that coming up around
Speaker 2: five point thirty. John Rosstein, who covers college basketball, he's
Speaker 2: kind of like a college basketball robot. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that's the brand he seeks. If you follow him
Speaker 2: on social media, you get it. If you don't, you're
Speaker 2: probably better off. But he is somebody that does have
Speaker 2: a lot of resources, a lot of contacts. He has access,
Speaker 2: so he's making trips to different programs across the country
Speaker 2: to check in on practice, interview their coaches, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. And he made a trip to not only Louisville,
Speaker 2: but he just left Kentucky as well. So John Rostein
Speaker 2: has given us what he observed at both Mark Pope's
Speaker 2: practice and at Pat Kelsey's practice. We'll start with what
Speaker 2: he said about Louisville, which is where he started. That
Speaker 2: was and we did talk about this earlier in the show,
Speaker 2: but I know we have a new audience usually in
Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour. But here here were his takeaways
Speaker 2: from his trip to Louisville. The first thing he mentioned
Speaker 2: was that let's see here, got to scroll down. Here
Speaker 2: he shows a picture of the of This was just
Speaker 2: a picture that he showed of the practice court which
Speaker 2: loved the dunky Cardinal bird.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 2: Will not tolerate any slander of it. I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: The center court at the Young Center looks phenomenal. The
Speaker 2: practice court though that the dunking bird's just too big.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, but like it it should be. The size
Speaker 2: should be reduced. Have you ever seen this, John, I.
Speaker 3: Know what it looks like. I didn't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know what the practice facility one looks like.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean, though, like it looks a lot different.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send it to you because like it's it's
Speaker 2: awesome the logo, but like I don't know why it
Speaker 2: had to be so large, Like it's I mean, if
Speaker 2: I was playing on that massive, if I was playing
Speaker 2: on that court, which I have by the way, as
Speaker 2: I was a championship I was part of the championship
Speaker 2: team with the Chrismack Fantasy Camp. But we played, we
Speaker 2: played the other way, like we didn't go like it
Speaker 2: was it was different, like we didn't. So anyways, like
Speaker 2: if I was playing on that court, I feel like
Speaker 2: I would never know if I'm out of bounds, if
Speaker 2: I'm in another gym, Like it's really really I mean,
Speaker 2: it's beautiful, but like it just should be smaller. But anyways,
Speaker 2: he posted a picture that said, greetings from the five
Speaker 2: oh two here for Louisville practice. You're one of the
Speaker 2: pat Kelcierra. Then he went on to say traditional big
Speaker 2: men are going to have issues matching up with Caseon
Speaker 2: Pryor at center. Did Wonders as a pick and pop
Speaker 2: guy last season at South Florida. Louisville looks comfortable with
Speaker 2: five out. Then he goes on to mention the back court,
Speaker 2: says Louisvi's backcourt chuck yet burning Corn Johnson deceptively good,
Speaker 2: cool calm experience shifty can both shoot it really good
Speaker 2: duo Long Beach State transfer Abouba car Trail doesn't believe
Speaker 2: in fifty to fifty balls, plays every single possession like
Speaker 2: it's his last underrated pickup for Louisville.
Speaker 3: Did you get the.
Speaker 2: Joke he doesn't believe in fifty fifty balls because he's
Speaker 2: just gonna get every one of them out love, which
Speaker 2: is it fits for trey O Ray? So I agree
Speaker 2: ross team and then he says a brand new team
Speaker 2: with an entirely new roster is hard to figure out.
Speaker 2: Luckily for Louisville, we'll know how ready they are. Six
Speaker 2: days into the twenty twenty four to twenty five season.
Speaker 2: Tennessee visits the five H two on Saturday, November the ninth,
Speaker 2: and then he made a prediction for who he thinks
Speaker 2: will be the starting five for Louisville this year. Chucky Hepburn,
Speaker 2: core and Johnson, Terrence Edwards, Javon Hadley, and Casein Pryor.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I know this roster, you know well, because you know
Speaker 2: it's what I do. It's part of the gig, and
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm a diehard fan. And each time
Speaker 2: one of these guys was being recruited and each time
Speaker 2: they committed, like it was something we spent time talking
Speaker 2: about on the show. But you could be I think
Speaker 2: a fan that is a beyond casual that you know,
Speaker 2: like Louisville basketball a big deal to you, and I
Speaker 2: just ran through rapid fire those five names, and you're
Speaker 2: probably like, Okay, which one is that? Which one is that?
Speaker 2: Like this is weird, like this is unusual to have,
Speaker 2: you know, an entirely new roster. So well, I hope
Speaker 2: I will probably never have a year like this again
Speaker 2: where you have won an entirely new roster and there
Speaker 2: are fans that quite literally are trying their damnedest, but
Speaker 2: you know, they got lives, they got work, they got
Speaker 2: other things to where it's gonna take them some time
Speaker 2: when watching this team play to figure out who the
Speaker 2: hell everybody is. But I'm here to tell you doesn't
Speaker 2: make you a bad fan, doesn't mean that you just haven't.
Speaker 3: Been keeping up.
Speaker 2: It's just this is usually you have to learn a
Speaker 2: few new names. Now you've got to learn an entire
Speaker 2: new team.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I would hope that the trip to the Bahamas did
Speaker 2: help some folks get acclimated somewhat with the new pieces here,
Speaker 2: but here, here's the thirty five second clip. It's the
Speaker 2: Rawstein Reaction. It's a video series he does after each
Speaker 2: of his stops at different college basketball programs. Here's what
Speaker 2: he had to say about his trips to see Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey's team.
Speaker 4: John Rothstein with this Rothstein reaction after watching Louisville practice.
Speaker 4: The energy and the intensity in Pat Kelsey's practice on
Speaker 4: Tuesday was second to none. The Cards also have a
Speaker 4: deceptively good backcourt with Wisconsin transfer Chucky Hepburn and also
Speaker 4: Washington transfer Corn Johnson. Louisville has a brand new team,
Speaker 4: but Louisville will be one of the most improved teams
Speaker 4: in college basketball during the twenty four to twenty five season.
Speaker 4: If the Cards can stay healthy, they look like a
Speaker 4: potential bubble team to monitor in the middle of the
Speaker 4: ACC during the upcoming year.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm doing the thing here, like as a
Speaker 2: fan who tries to be objective and fair and not
Speaker 2: you know, not take any like if somebody doesn't think
Speaker 2: Louisville's as good as I do. I've always, i feel like,
Speaker 2: been pretty good at not taking that as like they're haters.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, they see it differently, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing crazy that he said. But I'm finding myself like,
Speaker 2: what do you.
Speaker 3: Mean deceptively good?
Speaker 2: What do you mean You look at these guys Chucky,
Speaker 2: Hepburn and Korn Johnson and you think that they look
Speaker 2: like they suck, but they don't. So like they're deceptively good.
Speaker 2: What do you say it?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: Rostein one of the most improved teams in college basketball.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't take much, dude. They won four games two
Speaker 2: years ago and won eight games last year. Like he's
Speaker 2: not saying anything crazy, but just about everybody around here.
Speaker 2: And I would say a lot of people who do
Speaker 2: what Rostein does view Louisville a little bit differently than
Speaker 2: he does. They could be a bubble team in the
Speaker 2: middle of the ACC. But I'm kind of worried because, like,
Speaker 2: I think that's crazy. I have no clue. I'm well
Speaker 2: aware that we'll have to wait and see. As I've
Speaker 2: mentioned many times with both teams Louisville and Kentucky, this
Speaker 2: is the ultimate unknown. However, like the ACC is not
Speaker 2: even that good of a league anymore, So you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make me worried, but it's just a reminder
Speaker 2: that like, yeah, I think we are justified in thinking
Speaker 2: this is a tournament caliber team with the roster that
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey put together, with the ACC not being a
Speaker 2: league that you're really that scared of outside of maybe
Speaker 2: a couple of teams, and Pat Kelsey's track record of
Speaker 2: being a winner. I mean, go look at Pat Kelsey's
Speaker 2: record as a coach. Everywhere he's been he wins. Expecting
Speaker 2: him to win enough to get in the tournament at
Speaker 2: a place like Louisville with these types of players, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's it's it should be expected, and I
Speaker 2: think he would agree. So he didn't say anything like negative,
Speaker 2: but he wouldn't like there's not going to be any
Speaker 2: of these videos that he's done, and he's done many
Speaker 2: of them where he's gonna like, yeah, they might win
Speaker 2: four games, like you know, so it's you know, but
Speaker 2: I mean you didn't think he said anything crazy there, right, John?
Speaker 2: Talk me off the ledge of like I'm about to
Speaker 2: come after Rostin and tell him don't.
Speaker 3: Come back to Louisville again, Buddy. I just think it's
Speaker 3: weird that in the the stuff that you read earlier,
Speaker 3: he seemed like he was very complimentary, but whenever he did.
Speaker 2: The video is underwhelming, right, Yeah, when he does.
Speaker 3: This stand up, it sounds like he's trying to talk
Speaker 3: Louisville down a little bit more compared to what he wrote.
Speaker 2: And as much as he is a big name in
Speaker 2: the college hoops world as far as reporting and coverage,
Speaker 2: and I like to make fun of him because you know,
Speaker 2: like he's easy. I mean he I mean, he can't
Speaker 2: be surprised if people think he's a psycho with Like,
Speaker 2: anytime there's a big event going on across the globe,
Speaker 2: he makes a point to go tweet the most random,
Speaker 2: obscure college basketball piece of news. You know, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and Joe Biden are having a debate and they're talking
Speaker 2: a golf match and bringing up porn stars and morals
Speaker 2: of an alley cat all while John Rostein, you know,
Speaker 2: he knows the timelines filled with everybody just living in
Speaker 2: the moment with that insane debate. But he's going to
Speaker 2: let you know Cleveland State has put ink to paper.
Speaker 2: They've got a home and home with Montana State. Like
Speaker 2: he's he's a nut, But he didn't say any Like
Speaker 2: his tweets and what he put in video, it's a
Speaker 2: I like you could just like, here, let me paste
Speaker 2: a link of what somebody wrote up about Louisville's roster
Speaker 2: after the portal closed, those tweets would be generated, and
Speaker 2: he might be AI anyways with the robot stuff that
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 3: Also, you may have kind of touched on this earlier.
Speaker 3: But what does deceptively good even mean?
Speaker 2: It means you're good, but I would have thought you weren't, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I mean, it's just a weird phrase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like because I don't.
Speaker 3: Feel like a lot of people are. So he didn't
Speaker 3: seem like he thought louis would be bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he didn't really say a whole lot, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, Like it was very vanilla. But
Speaker 2: like when I when I've heard the let me give
Speaker 2: you the best example for deceptively good white dudes who
Speaker 2: can dunk. He's deceptively athletic like that they're saying, we
Speaker 2: wouldn't have expected him to be able to cram on
Speaker 2: dudes in the NBA because he's white. Like, That's that's
Speaker 2: what people mean when they say deceptive. So I mean,
Speaker 2: to me, it's like he looks at Hepburn and Corey Johnson, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, they're not big guys. They're not crazy athletic,
Speaker 2: although Chucky Hepburn, I mean he's Chucky. I think Chuck
Speaker 2: Hepburn is a really good player and he showed that
Speaker 2: I think at Washington or Wisconsin. So yeah, he could
Speaker 2: have just said they're a good backcourt. But the deceptive
Speaker 2: is almost like a backhanded compliment, right like, Hey, you
Speaker 2: guys may think I'm crazy when I say you these
Speaker 2: guys are good, but you know, watch and you'll realize
Speaker 2: they're kind of good. Like that's you know. So then
Speaker 2: he made the trip to Lexington and here's what he
Speaker 2: had to say, the same thing again. This is Ai
Speaker 2: took a picture of Kentucky's practice court. Greetings from Lexington
Speaker 2: here for Kentucky practice. You're one of the Mark Pope era,
Speaker 2: he says. The surprise here at Kentucky practice has been
Speaker 2: freshman guard Colin Chandler, former BYU commit, hasn't played in
Speaker 2: a bit due to Mormon mission, but is really talented
Speaker 2: going to be in the Wildcat's rotation. Mark Pope tells
Speaker 2: me that Wake Forest transfer Andrew Carr has been Kentucky's
Speaker 2: most efficient player going to be a major focal point
Speaker 2: at power forward. The Cat's staff feels he can have
Speaker 2: a similar impact to Grant Nelson last season in Alabama.
Speaker 2: The makeup of Kentucky's perimeter is going to be fascinating
Speaker 2: to watch. Cats have five players Lamont Butler, kerk Chris
Speaker 2: la Otega Away, Kobe Brea, Jackson Robinson for three spots,
Speaker 2: lots of different pieces to mix and match. Early prediction
Speaker 2: for Kentucky starting five Lamont Butler, Kobe Brea, Jackson Robinson,
Speaker 2: Andrew Carr, and Amari Williams. And here is what in
Speaker 2: he gave sixteen more seconds to Kentucky than he did Louisville.
Speaker 2: You're not welcome back in Louisville, Rosstein? Who else did
Speaker 2: we do?
Speaker 1: We?
Speaker 3: You and Cats?
Speaker 2: That's right, Andy, you talked to me before you come back,
Speaker 2: John Rothstein.
Speaker 4: What does Rostein reaction after watch Yeah Kentucky practice in Lexington.
Speaker 4: The Wildcats have known commodities with Jackson, Robinson, Andrew Carr,
Speaker 4: and Drexel transfer Amari Williams. But the mystery surrounding Kentucky
Speaker 4: entering twenty four to twenty five is the type of
Speaker 4: a lot I meant that Mark Pope uses in the
Speaker 4: Wildcats backcourt to start the season. There's a bevy of
Speaker 4: options at Pope's disposal. Laman Butler, Korcrisa, Kobe Brya, otega
Speaker 4: Oway all looked like potential starters for Pope, who has
Speaker 4: a brand new team from last season. Kentucky looks like
Speaker 4: an NCAA tournament team in twenty twenty five, but the
Speaker 4: makeup of the perimeter will be fascinating to watch from
Speaker 4: now until opening night on November fourth.
Speaker 2: Here's what I've learned. He got to watch practice for
Speaker 2: both teams, you know, inside access, and he didn't really
Speaker 2: tell us anything. Like what he said was what everybody
Speaker 2: was saying about these rosters before they ever even practiced
Speaker 2: at any point. And I'm not just saying that because
Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't raving about Louisville and he really
Speaker 2: wasn't raving about Kentucky either.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like would he say, like not
Speaker 3: even just him, what would anybody who has inside access
Speaker 3: really be able to say from just watching a practice.
Speaker 2: Probably not, I mean, not a whole lot. If you
Speaker 2: want to get I mean again, you're not going to
Speaker 2: do that. And then leave and then go on and
Speaker 2: go and blast that program on Twitter. I will say
Speaker 2: this though, Jeff Goodman, who you know, I think is
Speaker 2: the leader when it comes to college basketball coverage from
Speaker 2: top to bottom, and a lot of people don't like him,
Speaker 2: and that you know, that's what I mean. You know,
Speaker 2: he's he's now out there not as just a guy
Speaker 2: who reports news and breaks stories. He's you know, he's
Speaker 2: on camera, he's on Mike, So like part of it
Speaker 2: is getting a rise out of fans and the entertainment
Speaker 2: component to what it is that you know, you do
Speaker 2: in sports media. So regardless of what you think of him,
Speaker 2: he's he's really good at breaking stories and I think
Speaker 2: sharing honest thoughts that aren't persuaded by his relationships with
Speaker 2: certain coaches. There's one coach that he is really, really,
Speaker 2: really a big fan of, and that's Bill Self. He
Speaker 2: really seems to like tiptoe that a little bit more
Speaker 2: than anybody else. But like, I know how close he
Speaker 2: is with coach Mack obviously really close with Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: and those guys, but he'll if he thinks that they're struggling,
Speaker 2: he thinks that they're bad, he'll say it. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like, not personally, but I think Goodman
Speaker 2: would have given us more from both sides and it
Speaker 2: would have been more transparent. This was just whatever. But again,
Speaker 2: it's not Rostine's fault. It's just he kind of dresses
Speaker 2: it up like I'm about to give you inside access
Speaker 2: from what I saw, and it really wasn't that. But
Speaker 2: to your point, John, I'm glad you asked the question,
Speaker 2: like I'm not really sure what could be taken from this.
Speaker 2: And look, not only do we love college basketball more
Speaker 2: than anybody else around here, there's so much anticipation and
Speaker 2: excitement because this is all brand new. None of us
Speaker 2: really know how good either team's going to be, although
Speaker 2: I think fans are just are justified in expecting their
Speaker 2: team to be tournament caliber teams this year. But you know,
Speaker 2: we're probably a little more on edge than we've ever been.
Speaker 2: As far as just any little piece of info, I'd
Speaker 2: love to get it, because man, we've never seen any
Speaker 2: of this before, right, I mean, we got to tease
Speaker 2: with the Bahamas, but that I think that just love
Speaker 2: just wanting more. All right, let's get to a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. Some good questions
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Speaker 2: textas Nick, when it comes to ACC play, we need
Speaker 2: to win all of the games we are supposed to.
Speaker 2: We need to Yes, sorry, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: did talk to text, but there was a there was
Speaker 2: a period before there's a period that I don't think
Speaker 2: was supposed to be there. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: a ccplay, we need to win all the games we
Speaker 2: were supposed to win and split between Clemson and Miami.
Speaker 2: Do you know how the tiebreaker breaker will work if
Speaker 2: there are multiple teams with just one loss. That's a
Speaker 2: great question. I don't know how it would play out,
Speaker 2: and I remember last year there being a lot of
Speaker 2: different scenarios that could have been an issue, but it
Speaker 2: didn't need. You know, Louisville once they beat Miami last year,
Speaker 2: you know they were in there was no there was
Speaker 2: no tie breaker needed because they had one loss and
Speaker 2: Florida State had no losses and then there was no
Speaker 2: other team of just one loss.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Because they never really had to utilize a tiebreaker, I
Speaker 2: don't remember, but I do know that at some point
Speaker 2: there was a scenario where Louisville having a weak ACC
Speaker 2: schedule could have come back to bite them if they
Speaker 2: were a one loss team and the one loss team
Speaker 2: along with them was not somebody they played. If you're
Speaker 2: a one loss team and you have the head to head,
Speaker 2: it's a different story. But if you don't play this
Speaker 2: team that also has one loss or I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe two losses or something like that, there was some
Speaker 2: there was some type of scenario where they would have
Speaker 2: factored in the winning percentage of all the ACC teams
Speaker 2: you played. So we don't need to get into that now,
Speaker 2: and I don't you know, I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: going to come to that, but yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 2: Louisville ends up like Miami, though, you know, they may
Speaker 2: run the table in ACC play. But they nearly lost
Speaker 2: to Virginia Tech, who lost at home to Vandy or
Speaker 2: I guess it was at Vandy, but Vandy doesn't even
Speaker 2: have home games because you know, they're Vandy, So you know, Miami,
Speaker 2: they're deserving of all the praise they're getting. But it
Speaker 2: was nice to see them look beatable for the first
Speaker 2: time whenever they took on Virginia Tech this past Friday.
Speaker 2: And obviously that was a controversial finish. When it comes
Speaker 2: to the touchdown that they called a catch and then
Speaker 2: rule that it wasn't, it's wild to me. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't want to get off on a
Speaker 2: tangent when it comes to that, because that was you know,
Speaker 2: it was last week. But I can't remember a call
Speaker 2: where there was so much reaction and not many were
Speaker 2: I didn't hear a single one of like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't really know. That's tough. People either were downright convinced
Speaker 2: and wanted to fight about it being a catch that
Speaker 2: they got wrong or the call they got right. I
Speaker 2: happened to think that it was not a catch in
Speaker 2: real time, but I didn't think they had enough in
Speaker 2: review to say it that it wasn't. But anyways, yeah,
Speaker 2: to answer your question, I don't know of the toimebreaker scenario,
Speaker 2: but one thing you don't have to worry about. Before
Speaker 2: the season started, I would have felt like, damn, you
Speaker 2: don't have you don't have NC State or Florida State
Speaker 2: on your schedule this year. Man, Like those are teams
Speaker 2: that were picked ahead of you and now they suck.
Speaker 2: So like turns out, who knows, maybe Georgia Tech ends
Speaker 2: up being a team in the in the ACC that
Speaker 2: will look like a good win when it comes down
Speaker 2: to having not only potentially seven wins or you know, Louisville,
Speaker 2: Mabe they go in you know louis Again, Notre Dame
Speaker 2: is not a league. I know Notre Dame is not
Speaker 2: in the ACC, but I found myself needing to remind
Speaker 2: myself every now and then that that's not a conference game.
Speaker 2: They do have one loss on the year, but it
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with ACC play, So for what
Speaker 2: it's worth, the schedules, I just pulled them up here.
Speaker 2: So Miami they are currently looks like one to zero
Speaker 2: in ACC play because they're gonna play their second ACC
Speaker 2: game this Saturday night when they play CA like cow
Speaker 2: by the way, the game day's going to be there,
Speaker 2: and then they've got Louisville on the nineteenth, So they
Speaker 2: play Florida State, they play Duke, who's undefeated, but I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how good they are. They've got Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, they play Wake Forest, who sucks, and then
Speaker 2: they play Syracuse. So you know, I think their schedule,
Speaker 2: you know, it looks Miamis schedule looks pretty pretty manageable
Speaker 2: for them, to be honest with you, because now we
Speaker 2: know Florida State's not a game they should feel they
Speaker 2: should feel that worried about. I mean, I'll be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I think looking at Miami schedule, I'd be
Speaker 2: shocked if they didn't run the table and Louisville at
Speaker 2: this point. I don't think we're homers in saying that
Speaker 2: Louisville is clearly the biggest challenge they're going to have
Speaker 2: the rest of the way. And I don't say that
Speaker 2: to prop Louisville up. I say that more so looking
Speaker 2: at how surprisingly favorable the schedule is for the Hurricanes,
Speaker 2: but upsets happened. I mean, there's in fact the ACC
Speaker 2: I feel like more often than not they'll be a
Speaker 2: one loss team or maybe two one loss teams in
Speaker 2: the Champion and Ship game. That has a loss that
Speaker 2: like doesn't make sense. It's one of the worst teams
Speaker 2: in the league. So looking at Clemson, they are now
Speaker 2: two and zero in league play, with wins against n
Speaker 2: C State and Stanford. They've got Florida State this weekend,
Speaker 2: which used to be a big deal when those two
Speaker 2: teams play, Not not as much. They've got Wake Forest
Speaker 2: at wake Forest, who really sucks. They've got Virginia at home,
Speaker 2: Louisville at home, Virginia Tech on the road, Pitt at Pitt,
Speaker 2: then they play the Citadel. Yeah, so their last two
Speaker 2: games of the season actually are not acc games. So
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's safe to say at least
Speaker 2: what we know right now, and maybe we're way off here.
Speaker 2: Maybe we revisit this in a few weeks and we're
Speaker 2: in this. This sounds really stupid to have said at
Speaker 2: this time. I think Louisville is the biggest threat to
Speaker 2: both of these teams, Miami and and Clemson, and Louisll's
Speaker 2: got to play both of them. They don't play each other,
Speaker 2: so you know, that doesn't look that that doesn't bode
Speaker 2: well for Louisville. But if you can split, like if
Speaker 2: you beat all the teams are supposed to beat in
Speaker 2: league play and you split Clemson in Miami, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: could potentially find yourself in the ACC championship game. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're still gonna wait and have to wait and see
Speaker 2: what other teams do. I mean, there's some teams that
Speaker 2: have only played one league game at this point. But no,
Speaker 2: you're right, like I mean, if you lose to a SMU,
Speaker 2: I mean that makes winning against Miami and Clemson even
Speaker 2: much more important. And those are not going to be
Speaker 2: easy things to do. Those are gonna be games that
Speaker 2: you will absolutely be underdogs in. I mean, you can't win,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean you can't slip up against the
Speaker 2: teams that you feel like you should beat whenever. You know, hey,
Speaker 2: you could play well and still slip up and lose
Speaker 2: to those two teams. And look, Clemson, I'm not here
Speaker 2: to say that, Like I think Louisville has no shot.
Speaker 2: But they're loss to Georgia, which wasn't a great one
Speaker 2: thirty four to three. They've responded really well since then.
Speaker 2: Now I also realized they haven't played anybody. But how
Speaker 2: how wild would it be if Florida State beats Clemson?
Speaker 3: Would that just be more of a confirmation of just
Speaker 3: how bad I hate to say bad, but just not
Speaker 3: good the ACC is.
Speaker 2: Oh, of course it would be. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: would be a terrible look for the ACC. It would
Speaker 2: be god awful. I mean, in Louisville losing SMU, I
Speaker 2: think would would also be a bad look for.
Speaker 3: The league at that point. Who's the best team?
Speaker 2: I mean, look, and at the end of the day, like,
Speaker 2: I know we do. We say we don't, but you
Speaker 2: know we do. In fact, I don't think I say that.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: It's out of my control, so I try not to
Speaker 2: worry about it. But like, the perception of your league
Speaker 2: is a big factor in college football more so than
Speaker 2: it is basketball, and the ACC's perception is not great now.
Speaker 2: But like, if a three loss ACC team is the
Speaker 2: one that represents the league and the College Football Playoff,
Speaker 2: that would be the worst look. The AEC is not
Speaker 2: going to get the benefit of doubt at all, and
Speaker 2: they shouldn't, to be honest with you, if that, if
Speaker 2: that ends up happening, but I doubt that'll happen. I
Speaker 2: think I think it'll be Miami and potentially Clemson and
Speaker 2: UH or Louisville and then outside that, I mean, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't even be able to tell you who has the
Speaker 2: best chance of winning the of winning the I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they updated every week as far as the
Speaker 2: percentages with the ESPNFPI and I don't put much into that,
Speaker 2: but it is at least something to reference. SMU I
Speaker 2: feel like has has had like the third and fourth
Speaker 2: best chances of winning the league for a while and
Speaker 2: it's got to be because of how their schedule sets up.
Speaker 2: So they've already played Florida State, which you know before
Speaker 2: the season started that was probably looking like a sure loss.
Speaker 2: Now they've got yeah, they've got Louisville, Stanford, Duke Pitt,
Speaker 2: Boston College, Virginia Cow. I'm ready to say it without
Speaker 2: looking elsewhere, that has to be the lightest ACC schedule
Speaker 2: of anybody's. And look, that's just sometimes how it happens.
Speaker 2: Louisvill last year, let's be real that that was a
Speaker 2: very light ACC schedule compared to other teams. But Florida
Speaker 2: State again, now that we know they stink the other
Speaker 2: ACC teams, they play Stanford, Louisville, Duke Pitt, Boston College,
Speaker 2: Virginia and Cal. I mean, maybe SMU is going to
Speaker 2: be the team that's there because outside of Louisville, if
Speaker 2: they were able to get past Louisville, they would feel
Speaker 2: good about every other game on their schedule. Sorry for
Speaker 2: the getting distracted. I'm blown away by how manageable that is.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying manageable instead of same week because you know,
Speaker 2: last year we were kind of triggered by everybody's saying
Speaker 2: that we had a week schedule, even though we kind
Speaker 2: of knew that we did.
Speaker 3: You know who's getting tossed him with that now is Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their schedule is somewhat similar because you know, they
Speaker 2: could slip up and lose to both. I mean, they
Speaker 2: could go ten and two and only two losses be
Speaker 2: to Michigan and Ohio State, and they really wouldn't have
Speaker 2: probably many wins we're talking about, but who gives a
Speaker 2: damn right? No exactly, But if they're ten and two
Speaker 2: with those two losses and their best win would be
Speaker 2: who like right, Nan Again, we'll see, there'll probably be.
Speaker 3: Either Nebraska or Washington if they lose to Michigan in
Speaker 3: Ohio State, maybe Michigan State, depending on how good they
Speaker 3: end up being. But they already had that loss to
Speaker 3: Boston College.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I and it still sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but at this point, like I would say, objective viewers
Speaker 2: of college football and the Big Ten specifically, they probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't just say, yeah, Indiana is going to be ten
Speaker 2: and two, But if they did take a look at
Speaker 2: the schedule and give it some thought, I'd say like
Speaker 2: nine to three would probably be what a lot of
Speaker 2: them would just assume that you end up probably losing
Speaker 2: to those teams because they are still really good. Although
Speaker 2: Minnesota probably should have beat Michigan, right, yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Don't give Michigan a ton of credit for their top ranking.
Speaker 2: Areer, Yeah they don't. Yeah, I mean who who they
Speaker 2: end up beating?
Speaker 3: But yet it was USC?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and that yeah, I mean that's probably a
Speaker 2: bad look for USC more than it was anything else.
Speaker 2: But still, I mean, beating Michigan is not something that
Speaker 2: many teams will probably.
Speaker 3: Be again home, so we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: So you know, outside of those two games, like maybe
Speaker 2: somebody says you slip up to a team unexpectedly because
Speaker 2: that just happens to most teams in college football, but
Speaker 2: most teams in college football aren't coached by Signetti, he's
Speaker 2: getting some love Indiana football being mentioned last night on
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football by Joe Buck. I mean, that's not
Speaker 2: something I would have expected this year, but he you know,
Speaker 2: I thought when he came out and said the whole
Speaker 2: google me, I'm a winner, I thought at the time
Speaker 2: that was a gimmick, at least seventy five eighty percent gimmick.
Speaker 2: And even at the time, I was cool with it.
Speaker 2: Not that anybody cares what I think about Indiana, but
Speaker 2: like I thought, yeah, that's that'll get Indiana some attention.
Speaker 2: This guy's confidence, and you know, that's that's the first step,
Speaker 2: right everybody involved. I mean, it's good for the entire thing, administration, staff, players, fans.
Speaker 2: You gotta believe you can actually do something before it happens, right,
Speaker 2: You got to have some belief and some confidence about yourself.
Speaker 2: And Signetti certainly has that given his track record. He's
Speaker 2: been a winner everywhere he's been and it's rubbed off
Speaker 2: and they're not just you know, beating teams that they're
Speaker 2: you know that they're better than, but like they're winning
Speaker 2: pretty big and even in years where Indiana was like
Speaker 2: decent for Indiana, they probably would have lost one or
Speaker 2: two of these games, because that's just what Indiana kind
Speaker 2: of like. The ceiling's never been really high for them,
Speaker 2: at least for the most part.
Speaker 3: Can say it's about Signetty. Maybe you'll disagree with this,
Speaker 3: but I think the way that he kind of acts
Speaker 3: and portrays himself, he's Dion Sanders, but with substance behind
Speaker 3: what he says.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's not, but he's not as arrogant like he's.
Speaker 2: Dion is more of a show. Yeah, Signetti is more
Speaker 2: of straight to facts and not like he's not going
Speaker 2: to spend five minutes talking about himself. He'll just tell you.
Speaker 2: He'll just tell you what it is, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. That's fair, so I can see. You know,
Speaker 2: he's clearly got a lot of confidence about himself, but
Speaker 2: it's not as much and it's not really in your face.
Speaker 2: It's just he's not going to go out of his
Speaker 2: way to say, everybody, look at me, I'm great. But
Speaker 2: when when talking about his program, the way he coaches
Speaker 2: in his career, he has no problem in speaking you know,
Speaker 2: facts and the facts back him up. And I mean
Speaker 2: it is wild and I think it's one of the
Speaker 2: best you know, maybe I'm a little biased here just
Speaker 2: because of you and the local connection, but I think
Speaker 2: it's one of the best. I think it's one of
Speaker 2: the best stories in college football right now. Does he
Speaker 2: have two ends in his name or just one?
Speaker 1: Just one?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: But yeah, the google me line, like I think because
Speaker 2: it's Indiana, like everybody kind of thought, you know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of cute because hey, he's trying to bring attention
Speaker 2: to Indiana. But like it's true, all.
Speaker 3: Three of the teams that he said sucked in that
Speaker 3: little speech. He gave an assembly hall. That's who he
Speaker 3: ends the season with. That's Mission, Ohio State and Purdue.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a winner, no doub about it. All right, quick, breck,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side. Wrap this thing up.
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Speaker 2: we know recruiting is a little bit different now because
Speaker 2: we still say recruiting and think of high school kids. However,
Speaker 2: transfer portal is a part of that. It has been
Speaker 2: for the last couple of years. Maybe eventually when you
Speaker 2: say recruiting, we won't. But here's the thing. You can't
Speaker 2: recruit players that aren't in the portal yet. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it will be two things we look
Speaker 2: at much differently. But Tyron Stokes, we've talked about him before,
Speaker 2: not a ton but his name's come up. He is
Speaker 2: believed to be the very best player in the world
Speaker 2: for his age, and he's from right here in Louisville.
Speaker 2: He's a six to seven, two hundred and forty five
Speaker 2: pound wing. He's in the twenty twenty sixth class. So
Speaker 2: he still has another year of high school left after
Speaker 2: this year, and he's got offers from just about everybody.
Speaker 2: He'll be able to pick wherever he wants to go
Speaker 2: to school. And he's going to be visiting for Louisville Live.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to exaggerate and like make this
Speaker 2: thing a bigger deal than it is, but like it
Speaker 2: is a big deal, not to say that an impression
Speaker 2: here would make it to where he's going to make
Speaker 2: a decision soon or anything like that. But you have
Speaker 2: a chance to really make an impression that should stick
Speaker 2: with him. Now, Louisville's going to have to beat out
Speaker 2: every team in the country to get this guy, because
Speaker 2: again he's the number one player in America. But again,
Speaker 2: he's got family here still to this day, it's home
Speaker 2: to him. He hasn't been here in a while. I mean,
Speaker 2: he left Louisville at a young young age to go
Speaker 2: be a to go be a star. He's been playing
Speaker 2: for different you know, academies and whatnot, and he's he's
Speaker 2: been to I think, I think you just transferred to
Speaker 2: a different high school or maybe transferred to the overtime League.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but he's bounced around and everywhere he's
Speaker 2: been he's been really impressive. And he'll be here and
Speaker 2: that just makes me not nervous. But I do hope
Speaker 2: that Lower Bowl is close to full. The atmosphere is great,
Speaker 2: and Louisville basketball can really you know, the program. Pat
Speaker 2: Kelcey and his program can really showcase not just Tyron Stokes,
Speaker 2: but any other recruit that's there visiting because Louisvill basketball,
Speaker 2: let's be real the perception of the program. And it's
Speaker 2: not perception, it's reality. Lowel basketball has been down like
Speaker 2: big time. We all know historically what it's been. We
Speaker 2: all know the capability that you have here at Louisville
Speaker 2: if you utilize all the great things that you have
Speaker 2: as far as fan base, resources, arena and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But kids, I mean, Tyron Stokes is what's sixteen. Maybe
Speaker 2: he doesn't remember the last time Louisville was like nationally
Speaker 2: relevant he might remember when Louisville was the number one
Speaker 2: team in the country, but I doubt it. That was
Speaker 2: four years ago, five seasons ago actually, and that point.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a little kid, So these kind of
Speaker 2: things we used to feel like, yeah, it'd be cool,
Speaker 2: but we don't really need it. Hey, look, it's not
Speaker 2: something you have to have to be great, but like
Speaker 2: it's something we've known all our life, so we're not
Speaker 2: like we know what can happen here. But I think
Speaker 2: you need some early success. You need to really show
Speaker 2: out because the perception here recently is not good. And
Speaker 2: again it's because it's reality. Louisvill basketball has been way down,
Speaker 2: but it won't be down for long. I'm just hopeful
Speaker 2: that there's a great turnout in the atmosphere. Is great
Speaker 2: to make an impression on this young man who probably
Speaker 2: won't make a decision for a long time.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: Be special.
Speaker 2: All right, let's call it a day. Everybody, have a
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