Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you
walk in the woods. Do you walk in their front
door thinking that you were going to surprise them? You're
only kidding yourself.
Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.
Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away
as to this topic to be an open door for
somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story,
a listening here, a support hold for those who have
held their own encounters with that which is not.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be miss We've got to open our eyes people,
there is something out there. All of these thousands of
people that have seen something. They're not all lined, they're
not all crazy. There are some very reputable, good people
out there that have seen something.
Speaker 3: John did I completely butcher your last night, buddy.
Speaker 4: Uh, not too too bad, better than most tatro ttro tatro.
Speaker 3: Ye, all right, you got you got a weird one
like me. I'm a t'other row and you're a teatro
So good deo. I didn't do it too bad. Now again,
if just in case we got somebody tonight that we
didn't have when you were on before. You are an
ex combat marine and you did thirty three year's law enforcement,
and I want to thank you for that service for
both and uh, yeah, I appreciate that. So yeah, I
was telling everybody about this encounter with your uncle that
you were telling us about. You want to to to
start over and just tell us to fill us all
in on that.
Speaker 4: I've got an uncle. Uh, he's probably mid sixties right now.
He just retired a couple of years ago. He was
former law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Also.
Speaker 4: Uh, when when I had my experiences back when all
my stuff started eight years ago, I told a few
people at work and I ran into him one day
and told him what I saw what's been going on
at my place, and knowing how much he's hunted, I said,
have you ever seen or heard anything while you're in
the woods that did not that you didn't think was
normal or that you know, was strange. And he told
me about this one time that he was still hunting
right up on the Canadian border by a side of
railroad tracks and a big swamp, and he was still hunting.
He did a lot of still hunting, but anyways, he
said he was going through the woods and he saw
something that.
Speaker 3: He saw.
Speaker 4: He said he saw a sasquatch sitting with his back
against a tree, and he thought that it appeared to
be sleeping just for a you know, until it noticed him.
And he didn't make any noises. He just stood there
and watched it. He said, it jumped to its feet,
spun around, looked at him, didn't make any noises or anything,
and it turned around and walked away from him, back
right right into the middle of the swamp, headed through
there to get away from him. And he described the
code on it as somewhat grayish with different tones of
gray in it. He said it wasn't very tall. It
was probably six and a half six between six and
seven foot tall, if the best he could guess, and
pretty good size. He's thought it was probably about two
hundred and fifty three hundred pounds in weight wise. But
that's that's the only one that, uh hunting that I've
you know, I've got a lot of hunters in my family,
and he's the only one that's ever come out and
said that he actually did see one.
Speaker 3: So he was sure that this was a sasquatch and
and not couldn't have been anybody in like a gilli
suit or anything like that.
Speaker 4: No, he said that he was where he was. He's
he's never ran into anybody down there.
Speaker 3: Okay, when was this encounter? Uh?
Speaker 4: I want to say that was possibly early nineties, give
or take.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now you had you told us that your family
has has been experiencing some stuff on. Uh And remind me,
is this property that you own that that all this
stuff is going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, the majority of it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I on the eighty seven acre farm I raised ready
in his cattle for almost fifteen years. Like I said,
our experience has started approximately eight years ago, give or take.
And I was first one to see one here in
the family and told the rest of the family about
what I heard, what's what I've been seeing, and stuff
like that. And back when my daughter was night my
second oldest daughter was nine years old. We ended up
buying four wheelers for the kids to ride out back
in the hayfields. And I was working on my big
pole barn. One afternoon during the summer, I think it
was right around August July or August. My sixteen year
old and the nine year old daughters came back to
the house and they said, Dad, one of the cows
is loose. I'm like, what they said, Yeah, one of
the cows is sitting on its butt on the edge
of the woods watching us dry four wheelers. And I'm like,
didn't make sense. So I went over to my pasture
where my cows were and I called them, and you know,
because you grain them when you call them, and they
all came running. I counted them. There was a twenty
two cows. I counted them up, said no, all the
cows are right here, and they said, Dad, there's something
the same color as our cows sitting on its butt
on the edge of the woods watching us. So curiosity
got the better of me. I jumped on a four
wheeler and went out there, took a ride around one
of my fields there where they said they saw it.
I didn't see anything. Came back to the house kind
of shrugged my shoulders, said I don't know what to
tell you unless it was, you know, another cow or
a big koy dog or something. And my sixteen year
old goes, no, it was as big as our cows.
And my smallest cow at the time was six seven
hundred pounds. And I don't know if you've seen red
inks cattle. They've got that reddish brownish color to him, yeah,
and they said it was exact same color as that,
But I want to save. A couple of days later,
maybe maybe a week later, same thing. I'm outside working
late afternoon. Girls come back, same thing. Dad got things
out there, sitting on the edge of the woods again
watching us, and I'm like, what it's it's out there again,
I said, okay. My youngest one got the closest to
it with a four wheeler and she described it as
a werewolf, and I'm that kind of got me a little,
you know, caught my attention. She's nine years old, you know,
describing something like that sitting on the edge of the
woods watching them kind of give me a little bit
of a you know, made me worry.
Speaker 3: Now, how close was that? He said, she got the closest.
How close was that?
Speaker 4: They said they were approximately forty feet away from it
when they when they came driving by the field on
the corner, and uh, that's close. Yeah, they saw it.
They come right back to the house, scared the scared
the heck out of them, they said. But uh, I
want to say, I went out there, looked around, didn't
see nothing, didn't hear nothing. Pro another week or two
later goes by. I had to go to work. I
worked afternoons for the longest time, and I was at work. Wow,
my wife ended up calling my workplace get hold of me,
and she said that the girls were driving out back again,
but in the field next field over where it comes
right up butts right up to a swamp. She goes.
My cant of my oldest daughter, she was sixteen, said
she saw one come out of the swamp right on
the edge of the shale grass and stood there and
it was rocking from side to side, you know, swaying
from side to side as it was watching them standing
on two legs, and she said that it was ten
foot tall, covered with gray hair, and oh my god, yeah,
I don't know if it's if that was the oldest
one or the big one or whatever. But she said,
my daughter, she goes, it's at least ten foot tall.
And I told my wife went out there actually with
the camera to try to snap a picture of something.
But she said by the time she went back out
there with the girls, it was gone. But my kids
and the wife were coming home later, probably, I want
to say, a month later, month and a half later,
down the main road to just before our turn off,
come down our road to our house.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: Just got dark and they're getting ready to turn onto
our road and they're on the part of the highway.
There's a there's a pond on the right hand side
with some heavy timber, and they're driving. There's other traffic
coming against them like a I think she said it
was a tractor trailer. She said, something stepped over the
side rails of the road from the right right side,
ran across in front of them, and every one of
the kids saw and she saw it. They said it
was one of those those things. It was gray, and
they described it as being the most evil looking thing
they've ever seen their entire lives. They said it was
like it sprinted across the road, and if it was
just one second slower, it would have got hit by
a tractor trailer. I guess the tractor trailer missed it
by about two feet. It jumped over the other side
of the ditch, going into the other part of the swamp.
Speaker 3: And this was your oldest daughter, you said.
Speaker 4: No, that was the whole That was my wife, my
oldest daughter, my second oldest daughter, and my son were
in the car when when that happened. It was it
was all within him, probably a three month period a span.
And but the fact that they said they saw a
gray one run across from in front of the road,
you know, trying to cross before the traffic got there,
and saying in describing it as a gray a big
gray one, you know, matched up with what my daughter,
my oldest daughter, and the younger one said they saw
in the swamp. So I don't know if do.
Speaker 3: You think that's the one that your daughter saw that
that was ten foots.
Speaker 4: Old possibly, And my wife said she said it was big,
it was huge, but it was it was bent right over,
just like an Olympic sprinter going across the road when
it cut in front of the vehicle and almost got
hit by.
Speaker 5: The tractor trailer.
Speaker 4: MM, every one, great hair friggin.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Kids have seen a few times.
Speaker 3: Now, have the I'm out of asked this on the
last episode and and if I did, you know, please
forgive me. Have you done any gifting at all? Have
you tried your hand at that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: I have?
Speaker 3: And what have you tried? And what responses have you gotten?
Speaker 4: Uh? I don't know if I've told you before. We
had a couple of researchers come up when this all
this very first started happening. They were apposhiated with another organization,
and after they left they one of the guy, one
of the guys said, once you try hanging some food
up in a tree, put it up as high you can,
you know, tie it to a tree, whatever. And if
you got a game camera, which I did at the time,
put it on the tree and see if you know
you can catch anything taking the food or whatever. So
I did that. I put one I had had the
one camera up and I would pull my four wheel
up to this maple tree, stand on top of my
rack and my fur wheeler reach up beside as it
could and tie it off a whole bunch of different foods,
you know. I made sandwiches, bananas, apples, bags of potato, chips,
cheese sticks, you name it. I put it out there
just to see what, you know, what if anything got taken,
and they completely cleaned the tree out twice on me.
I went back to my game, my game camera, and
you know, downloaded it up on the computer, and my
game camera would fire off all throughout the night, you know,
different odd hours, you know, and there was nothing in
the frames all. It was just a picture of the
night shots.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: After the second time that happened, Uh, I called the
researcher back up and I told him what was going on,
and he goes, well, why don't you tape the food
to the tree to slow them down a little bit.
So I said, okay, I'll try that. And in the meantime,
I got two extra game cameras from my brothers and
I put them in like in a triangle around the tree,
so I had three different cameras pointing at all the
same tree. Uh went back there to loaded the tree
up with food and snacks and all this other stuff,
and I used electrical tape wrapped, you know, to tape
the stuff to the tree to make it a little
bit more difficult to slow these things down. And now
once again these things would come through, rip the food off.
Cameras would fire, but I couldn't get nothing on you
know that was quick enough to catch them. And I
ended up calling the guy back again, told him what's
going on. He goes, so let me let me just
get this clear.
Speaker 3: You would hang the food up, your game cams would
go off, yep, the food would be gone, but nothing
was there.
Speaker 4: There was nothing. My camera, I don't think was quick
enough to pick up whatever was going on. You know,
I didn't. I've got I've run game cameras for I
don't know whoever since they first started coming out. You know,
I'm looking for deer, I'm looking for coy dogs, looking
for you know, anything that's out there moving. But so
after the second time of me, you know, using electrical
tape on the food and stuff, I called the guy
and he goes, what are you using? I said, electrical tape.
He goes, use duct tape.
Speaker 5: So I did.
Speaker 4: I went out loaded the tree up one more time
and I happened to come out with my nine year
old daughter my five year old son on the four wheeler.
Drove down into the right side of my property. We
I looked at the tree and some of the food
was gone. It wasn't all gone like you know the
previous four times. So I went around and said, well,
I pulled all three SD cards out of all my cameras.
I put up a whole bunch of new food with
duct tape.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 4: I went back to the house, downloaded all the images
off the three SD cards, and like once again, there
was night shots, but nothing definitive, you know that you
could say, oh, there's something. And that probably took I
don't know, probably ten ten fifteen minutes. Went back on
the four wheel were the kids. Kids wanted to go
back out there, went out there, looked up to the cameras,
checked settings on them. I'll make sure everything was going.
That was the bright settings on it. And I'm looking
at the third camera and my kids are off playing
probably thirty feet thirty feet away from me in the woods.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 4: I can still see them. I'm standing there looking at
the camera checking the settings on it, and all of
a sudden, one of those things screamed at us from
probably if I had to guess, fifty sixty yards away
in the woods. And I don't know if i've last
time I told you, but when when these things scream
at you, it's like standing in front of a concert
speaker with your guts and your chest. Everything vibrates. I mean,
it's it's such it'll it's it's life changing when you
experience something like that. And all I could do, honest
to god, I just hung my head and like, oh
my god, we're gonna die. And this thing screamed for
me five six seconds. As soon as the scream stopped,
I snapped out and said, hey, the kids, and I
looked up. Both my kids are froze, you know, they're
looking in the woods and getting ready to run or whatever,
and they're both just staring. And I yelled at the kids.
I said, come on, kids, we got to go. I
took that camera, I put it up about seven foot
in the tree, got back on the four wheeler and
got the heck out of there, and they didn't come back.
Speaker 3: John before we go any farther, got a question real
quick from Pappy. He wanted to know if the daughters
did they see the face at all.
Speaker 4: The younger one saw well the second. The second time
they saw the red one, she said it looked like
a werewolf's face. The gray ones, they said, there was
hair coming down all over the from the head all
the way down, you know, the shoulders, and they were
just covered in gray hair. They didn't say they saw
the eyes or any kind of facial features on the
gray one or the first red one they saw.
Speaker 6: So the one that they said it looks like a yeah, wolves, she.
Speaker 4: Described it at nine years old.
Speaker 5: So they are they know there is two different stings, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They saw a red one on two separate occasions. They
don't know if it was the same one. I don't
know if it was the same one, but they saw
a red one on two separate occasions. Then they saw
the gray one well after that, but the gray one.
Speaker 6: But the gray one didn't have a picture of a one,
but they both they both claimed there one didn't I
don't know how many twenty thirty thirty yards forty yards
of it, but they saw coming right out of the swamp,
standing right on the edge of the shale grass, right
on my cut field.
Speaker 4: And they said it was rocking from side to side,
you know, swaying a little bit, just watching them.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.
Speaker 5: But they were born. We'll be right back.
Speaker 6: I wonder if maybe they they sounds like they may
have us. I didn't have a dog man or I
have that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I have heard stories
of there being separate subspecies of these things, you know,
run in the woods.
Speaker 5: Right, let's say some kind of bigfoot that might have been.
Speaker 6: I guess made it with a or however made a
to be a The only thing I can get is
a dog man as possible.
Speaker 4: You never knows about so yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know everybody says there's these different there's all
different tops of big foot, you know.
Speaker 5: Ye. Long Island has asked the same question. Sure what not?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about that, John, Have you had
any experience with those guys up there.
Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't really heard of anybody. Any of
the people that have come up to me and said
that they've actually seen one that looks like a dog
or a wolf face. They've basically described what I've seen,
same same type of description, being like a patty type. Yeah,
I've never personally seen anything that looked you know that
I thought would be a dog man or whatever, you know,
with a dog face on it. But people that I've
that I work with and other people that I've encountered,
they're basic description of what they've seen. You know, like
I said, as you know, the patty type sasquatch.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Now how long have you guys lived on
this property?
Speaker 4: Oh? Since two thousand and two. We bought the farm
and started, you know, raising their own beef, cutting hay
and basically just you know, basic basic hobby farm.
Speaker 3: Have you at what time? Well, I mean, I'm sorry,
what type of animals do you have on this farm?
You have cattle? Obviously?
Speaker 4: Well I got rid of the cattle about it a
year and a half ago, roughly because it just got
too much with my with my work and the kids
and everything. And got a fair, fair decent price for
my cattle and end up selling them out. I've had horses, uh,
two sets of horses. The first time they got kind
of out of control, I shipped them off, sold them.
We had a couple other we've had goats. You know.
I got an interesting story about the time I tried
raising chickens. Excuse me, I went to a local farm
place here in town back in probably nine, yeah, about
probably nine roughly ended up buying like forty chickens excuse
me again, And I got them up to I raised
them probably up to where they could just barely, you know,
fly roost up in the rafters of the barn. Anyways,
I had thirty forty of them, and one morning my
son comes in goes, uh, Dad, we got chickens laying
down in the field. And I'm like what He goes,
there's chickens sleeping in the field. Excuse me, a drink
of water? Oh, go ahead, all right, show me. So
I got dressed, went out there early in the morning,
and I looked and went in the barn. I had
the chickens running around free range inside the barn, inside
the horse doll. There was two chickens left up in
the rafters. So I come out and he showed me
where the chickens were laying down the field. There was
five dead ones right in the straight line and right
towards the woods. So I had twenty twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four chickens all gone, not no feathers, no nothing
inside the barn, you know, like something would have gotten
in there and torn them up. There'd be feathers all
over the place. And I'm thinking these things. I left
the barn opened, you know, the big sliding door for
the cows and horses and stuff to go in and out.
But the chickens were inside the horse doll But so
something could have walked in there and took them. I'm
guessing it was one of them, because if there was
something anything else, like a raccoon, skunk, bobcat or whatever,
or somebody's dog, they there'd have been feathers all over
the place. But the fact that those dead chickens were
right in a straight line wondering after the other, like
they got dropped, you know, they couldn't carry anymore or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, I'm assuming you've had dogs over the years there, yep. Now,
I asked want you all that those questions to ask
you this. Have you had any problems there? You just
explained about the chickens coming up missing, But as far
as the larger animals, have you had any problems with
them going missing or being injured in any way? Uh?
Speaker 4: No, But I have noticed when we had our horses
both both times, I were two tips, two separate sets
of horses. I had a big uh paint part draft
horse and a smaller one like a shetling. I can
I can hear them winning and stuff, you know, out
the pasture right behind the house by the barn, and
you can hear the horses running, I mean running the
whole width of the pasture, just running around in circles
like something's chasing them. You know. I'd looked outside and
I couldn't see anything. And that happened, Uh, I want
to say four or five six times probably. You know,
I got there with a flashlight and I didn't see
nothing chased them. I thought they were just goofing off,
getting exercise or whatever. But I never saw anything.
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good that that it never messed with
any of your cows, because you know, we heard some
stories about them going after cows and yeah, well that
that would upset me. I'm sure it would you too.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're worth some money.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, how many times would you say that you
have laid eyes on one of these things?
Speaker 4: WHOA Well, after the first time I saw one uh
at thirty feet on my tractor with a gun, uh,
I went out and bought a thermal sculpe. I don't
know if I told you before. I went out and
bought an atmor four power sculpe. Yeah, and it's you
can see for a long ways with it. H I
saw the one the first step I seen one. I
saw one crossing the road here down the out down
from my house in the daytime. And I believe I've
seen one on Thermal two to three times out out
in the swamp on the edge of the woods. You
know they do their tree peeking. You got a tree
and you got a head and maybe part of a
shoulder or whatever. Yeah, possibly five times.
Speaker 3: So the one that that you saw from thirty feet
away on the tractor, that was the daytime siding, correct.
Speaker 4: Yep, it was just uh, it was probably late afternoon,
probably five o'clock. I'm guessing give or take me around there, man.
And I actually thought it was somebody, you know, Like
I said, I'm driving down the hedgerow on my tractor,
I got a thirty out six in my left hand
drive and going down the hedgeroone right at the stone
wall on the neighbor's property. I see what I thought
was somebody you know, standing on two legs, two arms
and you know, basic outline of a person, but I thought.
I actually started getting closer and I still couldn't see
him very well, and I've waved, said, hey, how you doing.
Thought it was somebody hunting, you know, just trying to
be friendly. This thing just stood there with his arm
stared down by his side, didn't raise a finger, didn't
raise an arm, you know, like it was even going
to acknowledge. And as I got closer, I saw the
white patches of hair, like this coloration on the left shoulder,
which I thought was, you know, kind of odd, but
everything else was just covered with black hair. At first
I thought it was somebody wearing a gilly suit, a
sniper suit. And as I'm getting right thirty feet away
from this thing right broadside, I'm staring at it and
I don't see no cuffs of a jacket, a shirt
hanging down, you know, sleeves, nothing, It's just straight boom,
you know, the hair all over the body. But it
was it was huge. As soon as I realized how
big this thing was, I got a sick feeling right
in the center of my stomach, you know, like, oh
my god. And that one I went back to the
at the area I want to say the next day
during the daytime. And no, it's like it had to
have been at least eight feet tall and the shoulders
on it were probably pushing four foot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you're going back over this. This this
was the first siding you talked about, you know, on
your first first time on and there might be some
people here that that missed it, because this was a
really good siding that you had, and I'm glad that
that you went over. It's about eight foot tall, four
foot wide. And like I said before, you basically you
just described a sheet of plywood. I mean, if anybody
can imagine that sheet of plywood, you know, standing in
the woods looking at you, that's what you saw. Eight
foot tall or four foot wide. Yeah, and just I'm sorry,
go ahead and and and give as much detail as
you can face and whole body, if you don't mind.
Speaker 4: I really didn't see any you know, like distinct like eyeballs, nose,
or mouth. What I did notice was this part right
like right in here between the ray blow of the
ears and the shoulders that was built up like it was,
you know, like a weightlifter. I mean it was huge,
huge whatever they call them. For the muscles, and uh,
I did notice that the heat the knuckle at the
top of the hands were turned towards me on both sides,
hanging down its side of its leg and the knee,
and the hands did go down further than what a
human They were almost probably not too far away from
the knees on this thing from what I could tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you hear that a lot. The uh the
arms hang down really low.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now I make one thing, Claire, I know that you
probably had with deciding it on that you probably didn't
have a phone, no way to get a camera, no
way to get a picture.
Speaker 5: So I know, I know something would be one of well, hey,
why couldn't he get a picture? Sam Way and.
Speaker 6: Wayne, you get that spook, You get scared. You don't
think you're thinking protecting you know. It's that I want
to make that clear with everybody so nobody will freak
out and go, well, you know, I could have got
a picture, and I know something will that's it just happens.
Speaker 4: But yeah, all right, just so everybody know, I almost
wish you ever seen this thing. I mean, I honest
to God wish because that was probably the you know,
everything I've done in my life being the Marines, being
in combat, you know, over in Baby Lebanon in nineteen
eighty three. That was the most frightening experience of my
life looking at this thing, realizing what it was, realizing
how big it was, and your whole world just changes it,
you know, your whole sense of reality is like you know,
it's it's life changing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And that's that's saying a lot. I mean,
you you saw combat, you were a marine. You know,
Marines are known as as the bad you know, you know,
the badasses. I'll just say it. And and for some
of the stuff that you saw while in combat for
this to be what scared you, I think that that
speaks volume.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I you know, I got out of the Marines,
you know, like I said, A huntings since I was
nine years old up in the Adirondack Mountains my father,
we went everywhere. And after I got out of the Marines,
my father had passed away, and I still went up
to the Adirondack Mountains where we used to take us hunting.
And I travel those mountains up and down, all over
the swamps everywhere, And you know, I wasn't afraid of nothing.
To walk this earth. But after I saw that thing,
when I go out, I'm looking in the trees, I'm
looking behind trees.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like you're you're on high alert every time you
go out in the woods, you know, because you know
these things are real, they're there, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just about everybody that has an experience, I
mean it it changes their entire you know, thinking just
their whole perspective about what could be out there. I know,
I myself, I've always been a believer in big Foot.
The topic has always fascinated me, not only big food,
but other cryptids as well. Right, But I never had
any problem when I was younger going into the woods
by myself, running, playing hide and go seek with my
brothers and sisters, friends and stuff. And then, you know,
my late thirties, early forties, when I start, you know,
really getting into this this topic and studying it more
and hearing about the missing four one one cases and
stuff like that. The woods is a place that just
terrifies me to think about. I won't go without a
gun on my hip, you ass walls. We go into
the woods on our encounters, my forty five's on my hip,
and there's usually another one in the car. No, you know,
and I wasn't like this, you know, before I started
hearing all these stories and talking to people like you.
You know, and most of the people we've talked to,
wouldn't you agree, Waals, Most of the people we've talked
to haven't had very aggressive encounters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean your encounter.
Speaker 3: To where you think something well, you know that something
sat on your tent. You know, it was you and
your two little boys, and something came along and sat
down on the corner of your tent and didn't show
any type of aggression.
Speaker 6: No, no, my claim it has been it has to
be because a deer would have moved, a bear would
have got a boar would have moved, or a bar
you would hear it grunting, I mean, a cat, anything
like that. You would have heard something you know, been
quiet and sat there and let me grab its button,
push on it and up.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well we we joked, Walls might be the
only human on this earth that has ever caressed the
big Foots. But you need you need the T shirt
made up. I played with the big Foots.
Speaker 7: But but yeah, I mean, I mean the majority of
the uh, the encounters that you hear aren't aggressive.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you do hear about some that you
know they scare you to death. I mean, and it's
to make you not want to go into the woods
without some type of protection.
Speaker 6: But yep, and then see the thing is with when
me and Wayne, Wayne will carry the handgun.
Speaker 5: I bring a long gun.
Speaker 6: Sometimes most time I have a knife and behind my back,
I have a MERCEDI on one side, and I'll have
my big I call her rainbow knife on one side
and that's what I carry. But you know he has
the and usually worse separated. The only time we had
it was our last encounter, our last time. That's what
uh spooped us.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: Broke says, you goose the sasquatch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you did.
Speaker 3: Now what were you saying, John? Go ahead? We interrupted you, buddy.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's uh when you earlier when you said
if I've ever gifted with these things and with me
putting out the food, I did that for a long stretch. Uh.
Let me back up to one second when when those
researchers were here, they came up, we walked around in
the woods and we're walking around no flashlights. It was
like twelve twelve thirty at night. And anyways, we decided
to go this one area after we got the rock
thrown at us, and we took an opposite direction away
from where where we think this thing was one of them,
and I ended up losing a mosquito headnet, a good one,
and they got pulled off on a vine or something.
I don't know exactly, but I didn't turn a flashlight
on it bothered looking at because the researcher was right
behind me. And so we went on another part of
this neighboring one hundred and ten acre chunk of swamp,
and we continued with our you know, walk around over there.
We didn't see nothing, didn't hear nothing. That was twenty twelve.
I want to say about three years later. You know,
I left food outside recorders, you know, digital recorders and
game cameras trying to catch something. I did catch audio
here and there, but I moved my gifting tree further
out to the corner of my property. And I did
it for I went out there one evening just before dark.
Was when I'd go out and I'd hang out new food,
I'd change out the put new batteries in my digital
recorder and I put the food up, checked my recorder.
Everything's good. I looked down on the ground. It was
getting kind of dark, and I noticed something was bundled
up at the bottom at the base of the tree.
I reached out picked it up, and it was my
mosquito headnet that I had lost about four hundred yards
from where I was with the gifting tree. And just
for the heck of it, I smelled the mosquito head
net and it smelled horrible. I mean really like it
had been stuck up one of the crack of their
butts or something, you know. And wow, and I and
I knew where I lost this. It was almost four
hundred yards through you know, thorn apple vines and and
basic swamp and everything. And when I realized that they
had brought it back after I think it was like
three almost two and a half three years, and it
looked it wasn't left outside, It wasn't left out in
the weather because it wasn't weather checked or any of
that stuff. Humm, And I realized that was that was
That was a big moment for me realizing how smart
these things are, you know that I I realized that
by me hanging food out leaving gifts, you know, cookies,
candy bars, stuff like that. They kind of that was
probably their way of saying, thank you, here's something you
left in the woods that was you know, it just
goes to show me that they do think they aren't tell.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.
Speaker 4: But the big flipber for We'll be right back, and
they're you know, I don't I don't think the ones
around here are you know, I don't think they're dangerous
because we've me and my kids have been messed with
h one night when we're all hunting, we're hunting on hedgerow. Probably.
Speaker 3: Hey, John, just just real quick remind us when that
Sandra wanted to know when that when that encounter was
the one where you were so close to the way.
I'm sorry interrupt, I just want to get her question in.
Speaker 4: That was twenty twelve, Okay about October, end of October.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead there, I'm sorry. Uh.
Speaker 4: It's me, Me and my second oldest daughter and my
youngest son went out hunting probably three years ago, and
we're sitting in the middle of the hedgerow that I
got fields on both side of me, and we're sitting
there and we're watching one corner of the field where
we're expecting deer to come out, and we haven't seen
the deer. And then all of a sudden, to our
back right in another corner of the edge of the swamp,
we hear the wrap wrap rap rap of a tree.
You know, they're taking stick and they're hitting the tree,
you know, rapping like boom boom boom boom boom boom,
not heavy, do you know, like so that you can
hear it. And my kids go, Dad, one of those
things is over there. I said, okay, don't pay too
much attention. And it kept it up, probably about every
minute and a half, you'd hear. So I have my
thermal with me. I had to set binoculars and a rifle.
So I turn around with the binoculars and I'm looking
in the corner of that one field where the noise
is coming from. And the noise stops as soon as
I turn around, and I'm sitting there watching it for
a little bit, and you don't hear it. I take
my thermal, put my thermal up, and I'm trying to
catch a bobby heat sitting in the woods or inside
the tree line. I don't see nothing stopped turn around
face back the way I was, and it started in again.
My kids start getting a little bit nervous at this point,
and they saying, Dad, Dad. I said, I know, I know,
just ignore him. And I turn around again with it,
you know, do the same thing binoculars and the thermal look,
and I don't see nothing. And I think the third
time it did it, I put my stuff down. I
didn't walk out there with a gun. I actually got
up and I walked about thirty yards out into the
field and I'm just raising my arms up, you know, like,
what what do he's want? Leave me alone on deer hunt?
You know, He's like, then came back, sat down, and
it started whacking again as soon as I turned away
from it. And not only that, there was another one
about seventy five eighty hundred yards down the field, inside
the tree line, hitting another tree. You know, it's like
they're going back and forth. I can one would do it,
then the other one to do it. One would do
it and the other one do it. Then the kids
at that point, when when we realized that there was
two of these things out in the woods, we'd got
up and went back towards the house. But you know
they've come by middle of then. Well at nighttime, we
had our house hit. One time, Me and my daughter
had just stepped into this room and our motion sensor
light off the back of the house went off, and
all of a sudden, you hear boom and something big
hit the side of the house up by the air conditioner. Really,
you know, shook. You can feel this the vibration in
the room. I'm like, oh great, and I've had We've
been sitting down on our deck or you know, sitting
by the pool or something, and we'd hear things start
hitting our polemarn. I got a big metal polemar where
I keep my equipment and stuff. You know, some dirt,
you know, sticks coming from the woods by the edge
of the barn and stuff. And you know, it didn't happen.
A lot happened, probably three times. I could think of,
you know where they throw stuff at the barn or
just trying to get your attention or whatever whatever it
is they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a few more minutes before we get
up on an hour, and I'd like to do something
that that we had never done before because another well
known Sasquad show does it, and I didn't want to
be accused of copying him. But I would like to
know your response to this question. What do you think
Bigfoot is? What do you think they are?
Speaker 4: They're not a monkey? I don't. I don't believe they're
a monkey. H These things there are. I think there's
a subspecies of human mixed with some kind of Neanderthal,
DNA or maybe I don't know. Probably probably more more
than Neanderthal, because the one, all the ones we've seen,
they're completely covered with hair, and their abilities in the woods,
you know, staying hidden. As fast as these things are.
You know, they showed they showed me how fast they
were by snatching food off a tree with three game
cameras on them, and that alone right there. They think
they're I believe they have problem solving thoughts, you know,
where they they see something, they can figure it out,
you know, that fast. And they're smart. I think they're
smarter than hell dot to you know, tell you the truth.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's some branch of human? Is that?
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4: I do, But this is this is probably the first branch,
you know, the very first beginning before man even started.
I believe, Yeah, they haven't lost any anything you know there.
They are what they are, and they're gonna be around
probably a lot longer than we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can I agree that. I myself,
I believe that they are biological. I'm on record stating
that several times. I don't. I don't think they're paranormal.
I don't think that they're an alien or or anything
like that. They are a flesh and blood being I am.
I've recently, I've talked about this a few times. I
recently have discovered, you know, God, Uh, I've gotten into
church and I pray a lot, uh, and my life
has gotten better, it really has. It's turned around and
it's looked up. I've been blessed so many ways this
past year since since I've accepted the Lord and tried
to live better. And I just I view these things
as just another one of his creations. He created them
just like he created me. And when I pray, you know,
I ask I asked the Lord to watch over our group. Man,
I'm more research and to help us to grow and everything.
And I just I say that I view these things
as just another one of your creations. You created this
thing just like you created me and Wallas and John here,
it's just we don't know a lot about this one, right,
So that's my thought anyway, not that anybody really cares. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean a lot of people seem to
agree with you, John that they do. I hear the
word Neanderthal thrown around quite a bit.
Speaker 4: I think I from the pictures I've seen of neanderthalt,
like in science books and on TV, they're I don't
know if would have been the right word, but they're
they're bigger there, they have a lot more hair, and
I just the size of the one I saw myself
is just unbelievable, you know, athletic build. If these things
wanted to take anybody, I think they could.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think I think they're from the
nosur age thing. I think they're still around because you
still got you know, they still consider crocodiles and alligators
as dinosaurs because they were around.
Speaker 5: They just got a little smaller. YEP. I believe that
as well. I believe in.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, my buddy mister darryl Owen Jack and
Epithek is Blackie. You guys, if you guys want, kay
and watch the two episodes that we did with mister Darryl.
There was a really really good friend of mine. He's
like a brother to me. Now, go back and watch
they did the two episodes we did with him. You
might start to lean toward the gigant epithecus branch too.
That's all I'm gonna say. So, uh believe it really interesting,
go back and watch it.
Speaker 6: That's part of the prehistoric time, right or the med
I think.
Speaker 3: So, it's just that that's a gigantic monkey, gigantic ape
that didn't go extinct, that we we believed to have
gone extinct, that was over in Asia, and a lot
of people believe that there was a back when there
was a land bridge that some of them got over
here into our continent and they didn't go extinct. And
there's there's some proof to speak to that a little bit,
That's all I'll say. But we go in depth and
talking about it on an hour episode with mister or
mister Darryl.
Speaker 6: But everybody knows Asia has the bottom of Snowman too,
which is the Eddy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, we uh we're over an hour. Uh,
why has you got anything else you want to ask
John before we let him go?
Speaker 6: Not really off the top of my head, I don't,
but make sure we put that name back up again
for our drawing.
Speaker 3: I gotta go in at the bottom right now, mister
John Longoria.
Speaker 5: All right, I guess.
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share the show. Lock it, love to lock it, get
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Speaker 5: We love it, We love it, love love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll talk a little bit more of that,
but we'll let John go first. John, I appreciate it, buddy.
I'm going for round two with this and great show, buddy,
and you're welcome back anytime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, problem.
Speaker 4: I just want to let you guys know if you're
ever up in my neck of the woods, we've seen
in New York anytime, okay with me, we'll go out
in the woods.
Speaker 3: Same thing if you're down here, But if you're in
the South Tennessee or Georgia, we'll get out in the woods.
We'll find us a campfire to sit behind there.
Speaker 4: You go, look a good time, all right.
Speaker 3: Buddy, he'd be good. We'll we'll catch up with you later.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you guys, have a good night.
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Speaker 8: Through the woods, the pine trees sway shadows long at
end of day weekfoots call on the whispering breeze, Secrets
kept by ancient dreams. Dog Man house beneath the moon,
echoes in the silent dune. Tracks weave fine, but answers none.
A hunt the truth that's just begune. We're searching past
the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in
the forest hardware. Shadows lay seeking seecrets in the twilight,
through the fog A shape did gly skin walker, I
show wide legends of Oh. We chase to night in
the dark. Our lanterns bright by the creek, oil water
spill whispers rye, the winds chill, full of steep man
tails on toe in this land, the myths of old.
We're searching past the fire light. Full creature's hidden out
of sight in the forest heart where shadows lay seeking
seeing chritsi in the twilight break