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Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually

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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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to bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you

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walk in the woods. Do you walk in their front

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door thinking that you were going to surprise them? You're

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only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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as to this topic to be an open door for

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somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story,

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a listening here, a support hold for those who have

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held their own encounters with that which is not.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to be miss We've got to open our eyes people,

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there is something out there. All of these thousands of

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people that have seen something. They're not all lined, they're

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not all crazy. There are some very reputable, good people

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out there that have seen something.

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Speaker 3: John did I completely butcher your last night, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Uh, not too too bad, better than most tatro ttro tatro.

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Speaker 3: Ye, all right, you got you got a weird one

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like me. I'm a t'other row and you're a teatro

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So good deo. I didn't do it too bad. Now again,

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if just in case we got somebody tonight that we

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didn't have when you were on before. You are an

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ex combat marine and you did thirty three year's law enforcement,

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and I want to thank you for that service for

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both and uh, yeah, I appreciate that. So yeah, I

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was telling everybody about this encounter with your uncle that

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you were telling us about. You want to to to

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start over and just tell us to fill us all

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in on that.

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Speaker 4: I've got an uncle. Uh, he's probably mid sixties right now.

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He just retired a couple of years ago. He was

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former law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: Also.

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Speaker 4: Uh, when when I had my experiences back when all

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my stuff started eight years ago, I told a few

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people at work and I ran into him one day

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and told him what I saw what's been going on

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at my place, and knowing how much he's hunted, I said,

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have you ever seen or heard anything while you're in

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the woods that did not that you didn't think was

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normal or that you know, was strange. And he told

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me about this one time that he was still hunting

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right up on the Canadian border by a side of

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railroad tracks and a big swamp, and he was still hunting.

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said he was going through the woods and he saw

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something that.

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Speaker 3: He saw.

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Speaker 4: He said he saw a sasquatch sitting with his back

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against a tree, and he thought that it appeared to

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be sleeping just for a you know, until it noticed him.

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and watched it. He said, it jumped to its feet,

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spun around, looked at him, didn't make any noises or anything,

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and it turned around and walked away from him, back

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right right into the middle of the swamp, headed through

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there to get away from him. And he described the

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code on it as somewhat grayish with different tones of

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gray in it. He said it wasn't very tall. It

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was probably six and a half six between six and

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seven foot tall, if the best he could guess, and

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pretty good size. He's thought it was probably about two

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hundred and fifty three hundred pounds in weight wise. But

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that's that's the only one that, uh hunting that I've

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you know, I've got a lot of hunters in my family,

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and he's the only one that's ever come out and

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said that he actually did see one.

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Speaker 3: So he was sure that this was a sasquatch and

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and not couldn't have been anybody in like a gilli

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suit or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: No, he said that he was where he was. He's

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he's never ran into anybody down there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, when was this encounter? Uh?

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Speaker 4: I want to say that was possibly early nineties, give

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now you had you told us that your family

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has has been experiencing some stuff on. Uh And remind me,

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is this property that you own that that all this

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stuff is going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, the majority of it.

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Speaker 4: I on the eighty seven acre farm I raised ready

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in his cattle for almost fifteen years. Like I said,

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our experience has started approximately eight years ago, give or take.

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the family and told the rest of the family about

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what I heard, what's what I've been seeing, and stuff

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like that. And back when my daughter was night my

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second oldest daughter was nine years old. We ended up

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buying four wheelers for the kids to ride out back

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in the hayfields. And I was working on my big

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pole barn. One afternoon during the summer, I think it

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was right around August July or August. My sixteen year

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old and the nine year old daughters came back to

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the house and they said, Dad, one of the cows

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is loose. I'm like, what they said, Yeah, one of

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the cows is sitting on its butt on the edge

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of the woods watching us dry four wheelers. And I'm like,

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didn't make sense. So I went over to my pasture

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where my cows were and I called them, and you know,

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because you grain them when you call them, and they

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all came running. I counted them. There was a twenty

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two cows. I counted them up, said no, all the

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cows are right here, and they said, Dad, there's something

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the same color as our cows sitting on its butt

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on the edge of the woods watching us. So curiosity

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got the better of me. I jumped on a four

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wheeler and went out there, took a ride around one

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of my fields there where they said they saw it.

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I didn't see anything. Came back to the house kind

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of shrugged my shoulders, said I don't know what to

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tell you unless it was, you know, another cow or

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a big koy dog or something. And my sixteen year

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old goes, no, it was as big as our cows.

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hundred pounds. And I don't know if you've seen red

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inks cattle. They've got that reddish brownish color to him, yeah,

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and they said it was exact same color as that,

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maybe maybe a week later, same thing. I'm outside working

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late afternoon. Girls come back, same thing. Dad got things

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out there, sitting on the edge of the woods again

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watching us, and I'm like, what it's it's out there again,

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I said, okay. My youngest one got the closest to

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it with a four wheeler and she described it as

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a werewolf, and I'm that kind of got me a little,

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you know, caught my attention. She's nine years old, you know,

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describing something like that sitting on the edge of the

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woods watching them kind of give me a little bit

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of a you know, made me worry.

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Speaker 3: Now, how close was that? He said, she got the closest.

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Speaker 4: They said they were approximately forty feet away from it

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when they when they came driving by the field on

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the corner, and uh, that's close. Yeah, they saw it.

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They come right back to the house, scared the scared

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the heck out of them, they said. But uh, I

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want to say, I went out there, looked around, didn't

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see nothing, didn't hear nothing. Pro another week or two

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later goes by. I had to go to work. I

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worked afternoons for the longest time, and I was at work. Wow,

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my wife ended up calling my workplace get hold of me,

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and she said that the girls were driving out back again,

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but in the field next field over where it comes

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right up butts right up to a swamp. She goes.

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she saw one come out of the swamp right on

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the edge of the shale grass and stood there and

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it was rocking from side to side, you know, swaying

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from side to side as it was watching them standing

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on two legs, and she said that it was ten

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foot tall, covered with gray hair, and oh my god, yeah,

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one or the big one or whatever. But she said,

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my daughter, she goes, it's at least ten foot tall.

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the camera to try to snap a picture of something.

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there with the girls, it was gone. But my kids

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and the wife were coming home later, probably, I want

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down the main road to just before our turn off,

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Speaker 4: Just got dark and they're getting ready to turn onto

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our road and they're on the part of the highway.

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with some heavy timber, and they're driving. There's other traffic

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coming against them like a I think she said it

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was a tractor trailer. She said, something stepped over the

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side rails of the road from the right right side,

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ran across in front of them, and every one of

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the kids saw and she saw it. They said it

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was one of those those things. It was gray, and

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they described it as being the most evil looking thing

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they've ever seen their entire lives. They said it was

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like it sprinted across the road, and if it was

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just one second slower, it would have got hit by

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a tractor trailer. I guess the tractor trailer missed it

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by about two feet. It jumped over the other side

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of the ditch, going into the other part of the swamp.

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Speaker 3: And this was your oldest daughter, you said.

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Speaker 4: No, that was the whole That was my wife, my

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oldest daughter, my second oldest daughter, and my son were

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in the car when when that happened. It was it

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gray one run across from in front of the road,

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and saying in describing it as a gray a big

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gray one, you know, matched up with what my daughter,

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my oldest daughter, and the younger one said they saw

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in the swamp. So I don't know if do.

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Speaker 3: You think that's the one that your daughter saw that

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that was ten foots.

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Speaker 4: Old possibly, And my wife said she said it was big,

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it was huge, but it was it was bent right over,

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just like an Olympic sprinter going across the road when

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it cut in front of the vehicle and almost got

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hit by.

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Speaker 5: The tractor trailer.

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Speaker 4: MM, every one, great hair friggin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Kids have seen a few times.

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Speaker 3: Now, have the I'm out of asked this on the

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last episode and and if I did, you know, please

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forgive me. Have you done any gifting at all? Have

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you tried your hand at that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 3: And what have you tried? And what responses have you gotten?

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Speaker 4: Uh? I don't know if I've told you before. We

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had a couple of researchers come up when this all

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this very first started happening. They were apposhiated with another organization,

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and after they left they one of the guy, one

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of the guys said, once you try hanging some food

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up in a tree, put it up as high you can,

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you know, tie it to a tree, whatever. And if

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you got a game camera, which I did at the time,

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put it on the tree and see if you know

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you can catch anything taking the food or whatever. So

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one camera up and I would pull my four wheel

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up to this maple tree, stand on top of my

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rack and my fur wheeler reach up beside as it

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could and tie it off a whole bunch of different foods,

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you know. I made sandwiches, bananas, apples, bags of potato, chips,

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cheese sticks, you name it. I put it out there

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just to see what, you know, what if anything got taken,

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and they completely cleaned the tree out twice on me.

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I went back to my game, my game camera, and

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you know, downloaded it up on the computer, and my

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game camera would fire off all throughout the night, you know,

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different odd hours, you know, and there was nothing in

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the frames all. It was just a picture of the

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night shots.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: After the second time that happened, Uh, I called the

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researcher back up and I told him what was going on,

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and he goes, well, why don't you tape the food

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to the tree to slow them down a little bit.

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So I said, okay, I'll try that. And in the meantime,

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I got two extra game cameras from my brothers and

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I put them in like in a triangle around the tree,

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so I had three different cameras pointing at all the

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same tree. Uh went back there to loaded the tree

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up with food and snacks and all this other stuff,

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and I used electrical tape wrapped, you know, to tape

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the stuff to the tree to make it a little

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bit more difficult to slow these things down. And now

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once again these things would come through, rip the food off.

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Cameras would fire, but I couldn't get nothing on you

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know that was quick enough to catch them. And I

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ended up calling the guy back again, told him what's

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going on. He goes, so let me let me just

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get this clear.

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Speaker 3: You would hang the food up, your game cams would

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go off, yep, the food would be gone, but nothing

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was there.

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Speaker 4: There was nothing. My camera, I don't think was quick

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enough to pick up whatever was going on. You know,

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I didn't. I've got I've run game cameras for I

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don't know whoever since they first started coming out. You know,

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I'm looking for deer, I'm looking for coy dogs, looking

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for you know, anything that's out there moving. But so

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after the second time of me, you know, using electrical

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tape on the food and stuff, I called the guy

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and he goes, what are you using? I said, electrical tape.

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He goes, use duct tape.

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Speaker 5: So I did.

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Speaker 4: I went out loaded the tree up one more time

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and I happened to come out with my nine year

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old daughter my five year old son on the four wheeler.

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Drove down into the right side of my property. We

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I looked at the tree and some of the food

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was gone. It wasn't all gone like you know the

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previous four times. So I went around and said, well,

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I pulled all three SD cards out of all my cameras.

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I put up a whole bunch of new food with

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duct tape.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 4: I went back to the house, downloaded all the images

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off the three SD cards, and like once again, there

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was night shots, but nothing definitive, you know that you

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could say, oh, there's something. And that probably took I

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don't know, probably ten ten fifteen minutes. Went back on

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the four wheel were the kids. Kids wanted to go

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back out there, went out there, looked up to the cameras,

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checked settings on them. I'll make sure everything was going.

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That was the bright settings on it. And I'm looking

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at the third camera and my kids are off playing

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probably thirty feet thirty feet away from me in the woods.

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 4: I can still see them. I'm standing there looking at

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the camera checking the settings on it, and all of

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a sudden, one of those things screamed at us from

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probably if I had to guess, fifty sixty yards away

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in the woods. And I don't know if i've last

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time I told you, but when when these things scream

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at you, it's like standing in front of a concert

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speaker with your guts and your chest. Everything vibrates. I mean,

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it's it's such it'll it's it's life changing when you

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experience something like that. And all I could do, honest

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to god, I just hung my head and like, oh

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my god, we're gonna die. And this thing screamed for

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me five six seconds. As soon as the scream stopped,

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I snapped out and said, hey, the kids, and I

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looked up. Both my kids are froze, you know, they're

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looking in the woods and getting ready to run or whatever,

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and they're both just staring. And I yelled at the kids.

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I said, come on, kids, we got to go. I

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took that camera, I put it up about seven foot

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in the tree, got back on the four wheeler and

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got the heck out of there, and they didn't come back.

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Speaker 3: John before we go any farther, got a question real

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quick from Pappy. He wanted to know if the daughters

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did they see the face at all.

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Speaker 4: The younger one saw well the second. The second time

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they saw the red one, she said it looked like

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a werewolf's face. The gray ones, they said, there was

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hair coming down all over the from the head all

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the way down, you know, the shoulders, and they were

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just covered in gray hair. They didn't say they saw

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the eyes or any kind of facial features on the

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gray one or the first red one they saw.

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Speaker 6: So the one that they said it looks like a yeah, wolves, she.

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Speaker 4: Described it at nine years old.

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Speaker 5: So they are they know there is two different stings, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They saw a red one on two separate occasions. They

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don't know if it was the same one. I don't

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know if it was the same one, but they saw

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a red one on two separate occasions. Then they saw

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the gray one well after that, but the gray one.

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Speaker 6: But the gray one didn't have a picture of a one,

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but they both they both claimed there one didn't I

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don't know how many twenty thirty thirty yards forty yards

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of it, but they saw coming right out of the swamp,

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standing right on the edge of the shale grass, right

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on my cut field.

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Speaker 4: And they said it was rocking from side to side,

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you know, swaying a little bit, just watching them.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.

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Speaker 5: But they were born. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if maybe they they sounds like they may

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have us. I didn't have a dog man or I

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have that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I have heard stories

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of there being separate subspecies of these things, you know,

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run in the woods.

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Speaker 5: Right, let's say some kind of bigfoot that might have been.

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Speaker 6: I guess made it with a or however made a

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to be a The only thing I can get is

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a dog man as possible.

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Speaker 4: You never knows about so yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know everybody says there's these different there's all

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different tops of big foot, you know.

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Speaker 5: Ye. Long Island has asked the same question. Sure what not?

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you about that, John, Have you had

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any experience with those guys up there.

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Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't really heard of anybody. Any of

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the people that have come up to me and said

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that they've actually seen one that looks like a dog

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or a wolf face. They've basically described what I've seen,

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same same type of description, being like a patty type. Yeah,

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I've never personally seen anything that looked you know that

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I thought would be a dog man or whatever, you know,

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with a dog face on it. But people that I've

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that I work with and other people that I've encountered,

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they're basic description of what they've seen. You know, like

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I said, as you know, the patty type sasquatch.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Now how long have you guys lived on

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this property?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Since two thousand and two. We bought the farm

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and started, you know, raising their own beef, cutting hay

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and basically just you know, basic basic hobby farm.

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Speaker 3: Have you at what time? Well, I mean, I'm sorry,

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what type of animals do you have on this farm?

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You have cattle? Obviously?

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Speaker 4: Well I got rid of the cattle about it a

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year and a half ago, roughly because it just got

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too much with my with my work and the kids

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and everything. And got a fair, fair decent price for

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my cattle and end up selling them out. I've had horses, uh,

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two sets of horses. The first time they got kind

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of out of control, I shipped them off, sold them.

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We had a couple other we've had goats. You know.

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I got an interesting story about the time I tried

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raising chickens. Excuse me, I went to a local farm

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place here in town back in probably nine, yeah, about

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probably nine roughly ended up buying like forty chickens excuse

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me again, And I got them up to I raised

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them probably up to where they could just barely, you know,

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fly roost up in the rafters of the barn. Anyways,

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I had thirty forty of them, and one morning my

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son comes in goes, uh, Dad, we got chickens laying

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down in the field. And I'm like what He goes,

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there's chickens sleeping in the field. Excuse me, a drink

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of water? Oh, go ahead, all right, show me. So

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I got dressed, went out there early in the morning,

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and I looked and went in the barn. I had

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the chickens running around free range inside the barn, inside

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the horse doll. There was two chickens left up in

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the rafters. So I come out and he showed me

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where the chickens were laying down the field. There was

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five dead ones right in the straight line and right

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towards the woods. So I had twenty twenty two, twenty three,

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twenty four chickens all gone, not no feathers, no nothing

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inside the barn, you know, like something would have gotten

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in there and torn them up. There'd be feathers all

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over the place. And I'm thinking these things. I left

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the barn opened, you know, the big sliding door for

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the cows and horses and stuff to go in and out.

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But the chickens were inside the horse doll But so

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something could have walked in there and took them. I'm

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guessing it was one of them, because if there was

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something anything else, like a raccoon, skunk, bobcat or whatever,

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or somebody's dog, they there'd have been feathers all over

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the place. But the fact that those dead chickens were

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right in a straight line wondering after the other, like

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they got dropped, you know, they couldn't carry anymore or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, I'm assuming you've had dogs over the years there, yep. Now,

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I asked want you all that those questions to ask

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you this. Have you had any problems there? You just

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explained about the chickens coming up missing, But as far

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as the larger animals, have you had any problems with

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them going missing or being injured in any way? Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, But I have noticed when we had our horses

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both both times, I were two tips, two separate sets

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of horses. I had a big uh paint part draft

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horse and a smaller one like a shetling. I can

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I can hear them winning and stuff, you know, out

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the pasture right behind the house by the barn, and

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you can hear the horses running, I mean running the

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whole width of the pasture, just running around in circles

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like something's chasing them. You know. I'd looked outside and

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I couldn't see anything. And that happened, Uh, I want

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to say four or five six times probably. You know,

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I got there with a flashlight and I didn't see

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nothing chased them. I thought they were just goofing off,

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getting exercise or whatever. But I never saw anything.

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Speaker 3: That's good. That's good that that it never messed with

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any of your cows, because you know, we heard some

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stories about them going after cows and yeah, well that

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that would upset me. I'm sure it would you too.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're worth some money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, how many times would you say that you

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have laid eyes on one of these things?

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Speaker 4: WHOA Well, after the first time I saw one uh

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at thirty feet on my tractor with a gun, uh,

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I went out and bought a thermal sculpe. I don't

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know if I told you before. I went out and

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bought an atmor four power sculpe. Yeah, and it's you

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can see for a long ways with it. H I

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saw the one the first step I seen one. I

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saw one crossing the road here down the out down

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from my house in the daytime. And I believe I've

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seen one on Thermal two to three times out out

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in the swamp on the edge of the woods. You

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know they do their tree peeking. You got a tree

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and you got a head and maybe part of a

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shoulder or whatever. Yeah, possibly five times.

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Speaker 3: So the one that that you saw from thirty feet

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away on the tractor, that was the daytime siding, correct.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it was just uh, it was probably late afternoon,

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probably five o'clock. I'm guessing give or take me around there, man.

478
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And I actually thought it was somebody, you know, Like

479
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,279
I said, I'm driving down the hedgerow on my tractor,

480
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:59,680
I got a thirty out six in my left hand

481
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,960
drive and going down the hedgeroone right at the stone

482
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480
wall on the neighbor's property. I see what I thought

483
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:09,400
was somebody you know, standing on two legs, two arms

484
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,400
and you know, basic outline of a person, but I thought.

485
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,640
I actually started getting closer and I still couldn't see

486
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960
him very well, and I've waved, said, hey, how you doing.

487
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:19,440
Thought it was somebody hunting, you know, just trying to

488
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,200
be friendly. This thing just stood there with his arm

489
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,599
stared down by his side, didn't raise a finger, didn't

490
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,160
raise an arm, you know, like it was even going

491
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,960
to acknowledge. And as I got closer, I saw the

492
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,319
white patches of hair, like this coloration on the left shoulder,

493
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440
which I thought was, you know, kind of odd, but

494
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,519
everything else was just covered with black hair. At first

495
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,079
I thought it was somebody wearing a gilly suit, a

496
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:48,920
sniper suit. And as I'm getting right thirty feet away

497
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,079
from this thing right broadside, I'm staring at it and

498
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,279
I don't see no cuffs of a jacket, a shirt

499
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:58,519
hanging down, you know, sleeves, nothing, It's just straight boom,

500
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,480
you know, the hair all over the body. But it

501
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:08,680
was it was huge. As soon as I realized how

502
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,160
big this thing was, I got a sick feeling right

503
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680
in the center of my stomach, you know, like, oh

504
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,000
my god. And that one I went back to the

505
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,799
at the area I want to say the next day

506
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:27,839
during the daytime. And no, it's like it had to

507
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,839
have been at least eight feet tall and the shoulders

508
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,319
on it were probably pushing four foot.

509
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you're going back over this. This this

510
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,559
was the first siding you talked about, you know, on

511
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,319
your first first time on and there might be some

512
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:43,519
people here that that missed it, because this was a

513
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:47,359
really good siding that you had, and I'm glad that

514
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:50,039
that you went over. It's about eight foot tall, four

515
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:54,400
foot wide. And like I said before, you basically you

516
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,839
just described a sheet of plywood. I mean, if anybody

517
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,400
can imagine that sheet of plywood, you know, standing in

518
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,799
the woods looking at you, that's what you saw. Eight

519
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,720
foot tall or four foot wide. Yeah, and just I'm sorry,

520
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,200
go ahead and and and give as much detail as

521
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400
you can face and whole body, if you don't mind.

522
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: I really didn't see any you know, like distinct like eyeballs, nose,

523
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,440
or mouth. What I did notice was this part right

524
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,160
like right in here between the ray blow of the

525
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,880
ears and the shoulders that was built up like it was,

526
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,000
you know, like a weightlifter. I mean it was huge,

527
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,960
huge whatever they call them. For the muscles, and uh,

528
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:43,599
I did notice that the heat the knuckle at the

529
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240
top of the hands were turned towards me on both sides,

530
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,319
hanging down its side of its leg and the knee,

531
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,640
and the hands did go down further than what a

532
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,480
human They were almost probably not too far away from

533
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,680
the knees on this thing from what I could tell.

534
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you hear that a lot. The uh the

535
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,160
arms hang down really low.

536
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

537
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 6: Now I make one thing, Claire, I know that you

538
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,000
probably had with deciding it on that you probably didn't

539
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,160
have a phone, no way to get a camera, no

540
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,039
way to get a picture.

541
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,559
Speaker 5: So I know, I know something would be one of well, hey,

542
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000
why couldn't he get a picture? Sam Way and.

543
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 6: Wayne, you get that spook, You get scared. You don't

544
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,519
think you're thinking protecting you know. It's that I want

545
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,240
to make that clear with everybody so nobody will freak

546
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920
out and go, well, you know, I could have got

547
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920
a picture, and I know something will that's it just happens.

548
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:41,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, all right, just so everybody know, I almost

549
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,480
wish you ever seen this thing. I mean, I honest

550
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,319
to God wish because that was probably the you know,

551
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,720
everything I've done in my life being the Marines, being

552
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480
in combat, you know, over in Baby Lebanon in nineteen

553
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,319
eighty three. That was the most frightening experience of my

554
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,039
life looking at this thing, realizing what it was, realizing

555
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:08,559
how big it was, and your whole world just changes it,

556
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,640
you know, your whole sense of reality is like you know,

557
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,640
it's it's life changing.

558
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And that's that's saying a lot. I mean,

559
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,920
you you saw combat, you were a marine. You know,

560
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:28,119
Marines are known as as the bad you know, you know,

561
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,039
the badasses. I'll just say it. And and for some

562
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:35,119
of the stuff that you saw while in combat for

563
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,759
this to be what scared you, I think that that

564
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:38,640
speaks volume.

565
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I you know, I got out of the Marines,

566
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,200
you know, like I said, A huntings since I was

567
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,359
nine years old up in the Adirondack Mountains my father,

568
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,720
we went everywhere. And after I got out of the Marines,

569
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,119
my father had passed away, and I still went up

570
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,640
to the Adirondack Mountains where we used to take us hunting.

571
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:58,079
And I travel those mountains up and down, all over

572
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,839
the swamps everywhere, And you know, I wasn't afraid of nothing.

573
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:05,000
To walk this earth. But after I saw that thing,

574
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,359
when I go out, I'm looking in the trees, I'm

575
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:09,279
looking behind trees.

576
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:09,799
Speaker 5: You know.

577
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,559
Speaker 4: It's like you're you're on high alert every time you

578
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,440
go out in the woods, you know, because you know

579
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,160
these things are real, they're there, and.

580
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just about everybody that has an experience, I

581
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,160
mean it it changes their entire you know, thinking just

582
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,319
their whole perspective about what could be out there. I know,

583
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,279
I myself, I've always been a believer in big Foot.

584
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,799
The topic has always fascinated me, not only big food,

585
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:44,400
but other cryptids as well. Right, But I never had

586
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,079
any problem when I was younger going into the woods

587
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,240
by myself, running, playing hide and go seek with my

588
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:54,160
brothers and sisters, friends and stuff. And then, you know,

589
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:57,480
my late thirties, early forties, when I start, you know,

590
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,319
really getting into this this topic and studying it more

591
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,960
and hearing about the missing four one one cases and

592
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,360
stuff like that. The woods is a place that just

593
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,599
terrifies me to think about. I won't go without a

594
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:16,119
gun on my hip, you ass walls. We go into

595
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:19,159
the woods on our encounters, my forty five's on my hip,

596
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,719
and there's usually another one in the car. No, you know,

597
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,840
and I wasn't like this, you know, before I started

598
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,400
hearing all these stories and talking to people like you.

599
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,920
You know, and most of the people we've talked to,

600
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,320
wouldn't you agree, Waals, Most of the people we've talked

601
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,119
to haven't had very aggressive encounters.

602
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean your encounter.

603
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: To where you think something well, you know that something

604
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,519
sat on your tent. You know, it was you and

605
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,519
your two little boys, and something came along and sat

606
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,880
down on the corner of your tent and didn't show

607
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,159
any type of aggression.

608
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 6: No, no, my claim it has been it has to

609
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:09,000
be because a deer would have moved, a bear would

610
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360
have got a boar would have moved, or a bar

611
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,800
you would hear it grunting, I mean, a cat, anything

612
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,119
like that. You would have heard something you know, been

613
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,119
quiet and sat there and let me grab its button,

614
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,280
push on it and up.

615
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, well we we joked, Walls might be the

616
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,119
only human on this earth that has ever caressed the

617
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:36,360
big Foots. But you need you need the T shirt

618
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,280
made up. I played with the big Foots.

619
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 7: But but yeah, I mean, I mean the majority of

620
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:54,079
the uh, the encounters that you hear aren't aggressive.

621
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you do hear about some that you

622
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,159
know they scare you to death. I mean, and it's

623
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,400
to make you not want to go into the woods

624
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,000
without some type of protection.

625
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,039
Speaker 6: But yep, and then see the thing is with when

626
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,280
me and Wayne, Wayne will carry the handgun.

627
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 5: I bring a long gun.

628
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 6: Sometimes most time I have a knife and behind my back,

629
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:21,159
I have a MERCEDI on one side, and I'll have

630
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,400
my big I call her rainbow knife on one side

631
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,960
and that's what I carry. But you know he has

632
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,239
the and usually worse separated. The only time we had

633
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,559
it was our last encounter, our last time. That's what

634
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,960
uh spooped us.

635
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 5: I know.

636
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,639
Speaker 3: Broke says, you goose the sasquatch.

637
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you did.

638
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,159
Speaker 3: Now what were you saying, John? Go ahead? We interrupted you, buddy.

639
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: No, No, it's uh when you earlier when you said

640
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,639
if I've ever gifted with these things and with me

641
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,239
putting out the food, I did that for a long stretch. Uh.

642
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,599
Let me back up to one second when when those

643
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:03,719
researchers were here, they came up, we walked around in

644
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,079
the woods and we're walking around no flashlights. It was

645
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:14,559
like twelve twelve thirty at night. And anyways, we decided

646
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:16,119
to go this one area after we got the rock

647
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:19,840
thrown at us, and we took an opposite direction away

648
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,679
from where where we think this thing was one of them,

649
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,199
and I ended up losing a mosquito headnet, a good one,

650
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,159
and they got pulled off on a vine or something.

651
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,039
I don't know exactly, but I didn't turn a flashlight

652
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,159
on it bothered looking at because the researcher was right

653
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:36,440
behind me. And so we went on another part of

654
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,800
this neighboring one hundred and ten acre chunk of swamp,

655
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,280
and we continued with our you know, walk around over there.

656
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,159
We didn't see nothing, didn't hear nothing. That was twenty twelve.

657
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:55,159
I want to say about three years later. You know,

658
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,480
I left food outside recorders, you know, digital recorders and

659
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:01,320
game cameras trying to catch something. I did catch audio

660
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,639
here and there, but I moved my gifting tree further

661
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,800
out to the corner of my property. And I did

662
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,480
it for I went out there one evening just before dark.

663
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,079
Was when I'd go out and I'd hang out new food,

664
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,440
I'd change out the put new batteries in my digital

665
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:26,679
recorder and I put the food up, checked my recorder.

666
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,519
Everything's good. I looked down on the ground. It was

667
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,639
getting kind of dark, and I noticed something was bundled

668
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,440
up at the bottom at the base of the tree.

669
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,039
I reached out picked it up, and it was my

670
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:45,159
mosquito headnet that I had lost about four hundred yards

671
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:52,920
from where I was with the gifting tree. And just

672
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,360
for the heck of it, I smelled the mosquito head

673
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,599
net and it smelled horrible. I mean really like it

674
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,960
had been stuck up one of the crack of their

675
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,519
butts or something, you know. And wow, and I and

676
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,960
I knew where I lost this. It was almost four

677
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,079
hundred yards through you know, thorn apple vines and and

678
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,960
basic swamp and everything. And when I realized that they

679
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,159
had brought it back after I think it was like

680
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,960
three almost two and a half three years, and it

681
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,159
looked it wasn't left outside, It wasn't left out in

682
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,159
the weather because it wasn't weather checked or any of

683
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,119
that stuff. Humm, And I realized that was that was

684
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,400
That was a big moment for me realizing how smart

685
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,400
these things are, you know that I I realized that

686
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:46,719
by me hanging food out leaving gifts, you know, cookies,

687
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,599
candy bars, stuff like that. They kind of that was

688
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,079
probably their way of saying, thank you, here's something you

689
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,559
left in the woods that was you know, it just

690
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,079
goes to show me that they do think they aren't tell.

691
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:02,639
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.

692
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 4: But the big flipber for We'll be right back, and

693
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:11,079
they're you know, I don't I don't think the ones

694
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:16,559
around here are you know, I don't think they're dangerous

695
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,480
because we've me and my kids have been messed with

696
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,880
h one night when we're all hunting, we're hunting on hedgerow. Probably.

697
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,159
Speaker 3: Hey, John, just just real quick remind us when that

698
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,960
Sandra wanted to know when that when that encounter was

699
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,480
the one where you were so close to the way.

700
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:35,719
I'm sorry interrupt, I just want to get her question in.

701
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:42,679
Speaker 4: That was twenty twelve, Okay about October, end of October.

702
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead there, I'm sorry. Uh.

703
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:53,159
Speaker 4: It's me, Me and my second oldest daughter and my

704
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:58,360
youngest son went out hunting probably three years ago, and

705
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,039
we're sitting in the middle of the hedgerow that I

706
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,960
got fields on both side of me, and we're sitting

707
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,480
there and we're watching one corner of the field where

708
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,199
we're expecting deer to come out, and we haven't seen

709
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,679
the deer. And then all of a sudden, to our

710
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,119
back right in another corner of the edge of the swamp,

711
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,199
we hear the wrap wrap rap rap of a tree.

712
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,360
You know, they're taking stick and they're hitting the tree,

713
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,280
you know, rapping like boom boom boom boom boom boom,

714
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,239
not heavy, do you know, like so that you can

715
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,599
hear it. And my kids go, Dad, one of those

716
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:35,239
things is over there. I said, okay, don't pay too

717
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,960
much attention. And it kept it up, probably about every

718
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:45,119
minute and a half, you'd hear. So I have my

719
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,159
thermal with me. I had to set binoculars and a rifle.

720
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,639
So I turn around with the binoculars and I'm looking

721
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,159
in the corner of that one field where the noise

722
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,400
is coming from. And the noise stops as soon as

723
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,639
I turn around, and I'm sitting there watching it for

724
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:58,559
a little bit, and you don't hear it. I take

725
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,480
my thermal, put my thermal up, and I'm trying to

726
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,440
catch a bobby heat sitting in the woods or inside

727
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,480
the tree line. I don't see nothing stopped turn around

728
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,000
face back the way I was, and it started in again.

729
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:13,800
My kids start getting a little bit nervous at this point,

730
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,360
and they saying, Dad, Dad. I said, I know, I know,

731
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,320
just ignore him. And I turn around again with it,

732
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,079
you know, do the same thing binoculars and the thermal look,

733
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,159
and I don't see nothing. And I think the third

734
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,639
time it did it, I put my stuff down. I

735
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,320
didn't walk out there with a gun. I actually got

736
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239
up and I walked about thirty yards out into the

737
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,599
field and I'm just raising my arms up, you know, like,

738
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,280
what what do he's want? Leave me alone on deer hunt?

739
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,880
You know, He's like, then came back, sat down, and

740
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,599
it started whacking again as soon as I turned away

741
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,159
from it. And not only that, there was another one

742
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,280
about seventy five eighty hundred yards down the field, inside

743
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,360
the tree line, hitting another tree. You know, it's like

744
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,239
they're going back and forth. I can one would do it,

745
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,480
then the other one to do it. One would do

746
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,760
it and the other one do it. Then the kids

747
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,840
at that point, when when we realized that there was

748
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,119
two of these things out in the woods, we'd got

749
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:18,239
up and went back towards the house. But you know

750
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,119
they've come by middle of then. Well at nighttime, we

751
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:25,679
had our house hit. One time, Me and my daughter

752
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,760
had just stepped into this room and our motion sensor

753
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,840
light off the back of the house went off, and

754
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,960
all of a sudden, you hear boom and something big

755
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,079
hit the side of the house up by the air conditioner. Really,

756
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,159
you know, shook. You can feel this the vibration in

757
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:49,760
the room. I'm like, oh great, and I've had We've

758
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,159
been sitting down on our deck or you know, sitting

759
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,400
by the pool or something, and we'd hear things start

760
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,000
hitting our polemarn. I got a big metal polemar where

761
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,719
I keep my equipment and stuff. You know, some dirt,

762
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,079
you know, sticks coming from the woods by the edge

763
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,440
of the barn and stuff. And you know, it didn't happen.

764
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,400
A lot happened, probably three times. I could think of,

765
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:12,880
you know where they throw stuff at the barn or

766
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,599
just trying to get your attention or whatever whatever it

767
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:16,079
is they do.

768
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a few more minutes before we get

769
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,159
up on an hour, and I'd like to do something

770
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,119
that that we had never done before because another well

771
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:36,039
known Sasquad show does it, and I didn't want to

772
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:41,320
be accused of copying him. But I would like to

773
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,639
know your response to this question. What do you think

774
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,599
Bigfoot is? What do you think they are?

775
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,199
Speaker 4: They're not a monkey? I don't. I don't believe they're

776
00:44:56,199 --> 00:45:03,920
a monkey. H These things there are. I think there's

777
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,960
a subspecies of human mixed with some kind of Neanderthal,

778
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:18,280
DNA or maybe I don't know. Probably probably more more

779
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,480
than Neanderthal, because the one, all the ones we've seen,

780
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:26,679
they're completely covered with hair, and their abilities in the woods,

781
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,920
you know, staying hidden. As fast as these things are.

782
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,159
You know, they showed they showed me how fast they

783
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:35,880
were by snatching food off a tree with three game

784
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:42,559
cameras on them, and that alone right there. They think

785
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,480
they're I believe they have problem solving thoughts, you know,

786
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,480
where they they see something, they can figure it out,

787
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,239
you know, that fast. And they're smart. I think they're

788
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,000
smarter than hell dot to you know, tell you the truth.

789
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: Do you think there's some branch of human? Is that?

790
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,199
Is that what you're saying?

791
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: I do, But this is this is probably the first branch,

792
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:14,639
you know, the very first beginning before man even started.

793
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,719
I believe, Yeah, they haven't lost any anything you know there.

794
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,760
They are what they are, and they're gonna be around

795
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,199
probably a lot longer than we are.

796
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can I agree that. I myself,

797
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:36,880
I believe that they are biological. I'm on record stating

798
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,559
that several times. I don't. I don't think they're paranormal.

799
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:43,480
I don't think that they're an alien or or anything

800
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:48,639
like that. They are a flesh and blood being I am.

801
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,360
I've recently, I've talked about this a few times. I

802
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,880
recently have discovered, you know, God, Uh, I've gotten into

803
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,519
church and I pray a lot, uh, and my life

804
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:04,199
has gotten better, it really has. It's turned around and

805
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,199
it's looked up. I've been blessed so many ways this

806
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,800
past year since since I've accepted the Lord and tried

807
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,440
to live better. And I just I view these things

808
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,719
as just another one of his creations. He created them

809
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,760
just like he created me. And when I pray, you know,

810
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,920
I ask I asked the Lord to watch over our group. Man,

811
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,239
I'm more research and to help us to grow and everything.

812
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,039
And I just I say that I view these things

813
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:35,960
as just another one of your creations. You created this

814
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,679
thing just like you created me and Wallas and John here,

815
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:41,800
it's just we don't know a lot about this one, right,

816
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:48,480
So that's my thought anyway, not that anybody really cares. Yeah,

817
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,519
but yeah, I mean a lot of people seem to

818
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,280
agree with you, John that they do. I hear the

819
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,239
word Neanderthal thrown around quite a bit.

820
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,599
Speaker 4: I think I from the pictures I've seen of neanderthalt,

821
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,199
like in science books and on TV, they're I don't

822
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,280
know if would have been the right word, but they're

823
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,199
they're bigger there, they have a lot more hair, and

824
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,719
I just the size of the one I saw myself

825
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:22,719
is just unbelievable, you know, athletic build. If these things

826
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,719
wanted to take anybody, I think they could.

827
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think I think they're from the

828
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
nosur age thing. I think they're still around because you

829
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,960
still got you know, they still consider crocodiles and alligators

830
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,440
as dinosaurs because they were around.

831
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: They just got a little smaller. YEP. I believe that

832
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:47,079
as well. I believe in.

833
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,039
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, my buddy mister darryl Owen Jack and

834
00:48:56,119 --> 00:49:00,880
Epithek is Blackie. You guys, if you guys want, kay

835
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:04,920
and watch the two episodes that we did with mister Darryl.

836
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,239
There was a really really good friend of mine. He's

837
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,960
like a brother to me. Now, go back and watch

838
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,519
they did the two episodes we did with him. You

839
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,920
might start to lean toward the gigant epithecus branch too.

840
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,440
That's all I'm gonna say. So, uh believe it really interesting,

841
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:25,320
go back and watch it.

842
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,559
Speaker 6: That's part of the prehistoric time, right or the med

843
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:31,360
I think.

844
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,159
Speaker 3: So, it's just that that's a gigantic monkey, gigantic ape

845
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,880
that didn't go extinct, that we we believed to have

846
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,880
gone extinct, that was over in Asia, and a lot

847
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,880
of people believe that there was a back when there

848
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,519
was a land bridge that some of them got over

849
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:51,360
here into our continent and they didn't go extinct. And

850
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,719
there's there's some proof to speak to that a little bit,

851
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,920
That's all I'll say. But we go in depth and

852
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,440
talking about it on an hour episode with mister or

853
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,400
mister Darryl.

854
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 6: But everybody knows Asia has the bottom of Snowman too,

855
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:10,599
which is the Eddy.

856
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, we uh we're over an hour. Uh,

857
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,320
why has you got anything else you want to ask

858
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,559
John before we let him go?

859
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:28,079
Speaker 6: Not really off the top of my head, I don't,

860
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:32,880
but make sure we put that name back up again

861
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,559
for our drawing.

862
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,159
Speaker 3: I gotta go in at the bottom right now, mister

863
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,239
John Longoria.

864
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 5: All right, I guess.

865
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 6: Guys, like I said, I put that challenge out for you, guys,

866
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,400
share the show. Lock it, love to lock it, get

867
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,519
people to subscribe. We would love to hit it for

868
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:57,039
a thousand, for a thousand views, one thousand subscribers, that'll

869
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,280
be a great present for us.

870
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 5: We love it, We love it, love love it.

871
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll talk a little bit more of that,

872
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:07,800
but we'll let John go first. John, I appreciate it, buddy.

873
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,480
I'm going for round two with this and great show, buddy,

874
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:14,159
and you're welcome back anytime.

875
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, problem.

876
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: I just want to let you guys know if you're

877
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,960
ever up in my neck of the woods, we've seen

878
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:24,199
in New York anytime, okay with me, we'll go out

879
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:24,920
in the woods.

880
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: Same thing if you're down here, But if you're in

881
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,320
the South Tennessee or Georgia, we'll get out in the woods.

882
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,679
We'll find us a campfire to sit behind there.

883
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: You go, look a good time, all right.

884
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,679
Speaker 3: Buddy, he'd be good. We'll we'll catch up with you later.

885
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:39,519
Speaker 4: All right, thank you guys, have a good night.

886
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:43,400
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Speaker 8: Through the woods, the pine trees sway shadows long at

906
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:10,639
end of day weekfoots call on the whispering breeze, Secrets

907
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:17,480
kept by ancient dreams. Dog Man house beneath the moon,

908
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:28,840
echoes in the silent dune. Tracks weave fine, but answers none.

909
00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:43,760
A hunt the truth that's just begune. We're searching past

910
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:51,679
the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight in

911
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:58,880
the forest hardware. Shadows lay seeking seecrets in the twilight,

912
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:12,000
through the fog A shape did gly skin walker, I

913
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:18,840
show wide legends of Oh. We chase to night in

914
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:26,440
the dark. Our lanterns bright by the creek, oil water

915
00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:35,039
spill whispers rye, the winds chill, full of steep man

916
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:41,599
tails on toe in this land, the myths of old.

917
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:58,440
We're searching past the fire light. Full creature's hidden out

918
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:06,039
of sight in the forest heart where shadows lay seeking

919
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:08,800
seeing chritsi in the twilight break