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Speaker 2: Steve Rivera. In with me today is Ryan Hanson. Longtime
Speaker 2: you have a guy? Well, how wou's your Doug? Do
Speaker 2: you have a title? It's nice when you don't. I
Speaker 2: like the U of a guy. That's a that's your
Speaker 2: Carmel title. It is on my business card. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My day job is I'm the president of Bomboyash Travel.
Speaker 3: So that's where I came from to join you on
Speaker 3: the air today. But color analyst for the men's basketball
Speaker 3: radio broadcast. That's what probably most people in town now
Speaker 3: would recognize the voice from you.
Speaker 2: You have like slash like three one thing. One thing
Speaker 2: was slash Slash Slash. Then we've got Kobe running the show. Kobe,
Speaker 2: I hope this goes smoothly. We know that will, right,
Speaker 2: we know that it will. Anybody want to call in,
Speaker 2: please do. We're gonna probably look back at a lot
Speaker 2: of things that Ryan's been around since like the early nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I started as a student manager with Loud Olsen
Speaker 3: back in nineteen ninety two. So you think about who
Speaker 3: was here back then, So it's the Khalid Reeves, Damon
Speaker 3: Stodamaier here coming off right, the heels of Chris Mills
Speaker 3: and that group.
Speaker 2: So Chris was already that was his final year.
Speaker 3: Chris had left and I started the next year. So
Speaker 3: really my first year with the team as a student
Speaker 3: manager was the ninety three. I was a stat guy
Speaker 3: in ninety two ninety three, but my first year, which
Speaker 3: is why I loved claiming it was the final four year, right,
Speaker 3: not a first round last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. And I started covering the team fully at
Speaker 2: ninety one ninety two, so it's our wheelhouse, right. I
Speaker 2: was here being backing up in the late eighties nineties
Speaker 2: for all that stuff. So cool, No, we might go back.
Speaker 2: We're reminisce to the good old days. But these times
Speaker 2: are crazy times, right, football, basketball and everything else. We
Speaker 2: had Rita Stubbs yesterday. They're on that caravan of doing
Speaker 2: things right, you know, shaking hands, getting babies, trying to
Speaker 2: dren it generate enthusiasm at UVA, which I'm sure every
Speaker 2: school does or should this place. This place is unique
Speaker 2: in as much as it's not one of those top
Speaker 2: tier schools I'm not speaking out of turn, I don't think,
Speaker 2: but it's not also one of those bottom feeder schools.
Speaker 2: It's right in the middle like it was in the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve, PAC ten, and now it's trying to climb
Speaker 2: its way back to or not back to the top.
Speaker 2: But finances are going to probably be an issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole dynamic of college athletics, the landscape is
Speaker 3: something like we've never seen and we'll i'm sure potentially
Speaker 3: get into a little bit of that with some of
Speaker 3: our guests today. But one of the things that I
Speaker 3: look at, Steve, is I am impressed with what's going
Speaker 3: on in the athletics department right now, with the effort
Speaker 3: to try to generate that fan connection. And Tucson is
Speaker 3: a is a unique destination. It is a college town,
Speaker 3: but it's not, as you know, a generational Arizona Wildcat fan.
Speaker 3: There's so many of the supporters and maybe fortunately or
Speaker 3: unfortunately the financially ones that are well off to make
Speaker 3: this significant donations. Many of them Arizona was not the
Speaker 3: school that they grew up watching as a kid because
Speaker 3: they didn't grow up here. They may not even be
Speaker 3: an alum of the University of Arizona, but they've retired
Speaker 3: here and so this is now their closest connection to
Speaker 3: an athletics department. So, because you don't have that generational
Speaker 3: fandom that comes with the Southeast Conference and their football
Speaker 3: programs or some of the Midwest teams like a Michigan
Speaker 3: and Ohio State that it's handed down season tickets are
Speaker 3: passed down generationally, you almost have to rekindle the fire
Speaker 3: more often here in Tucson to generate that connection to
Speaker 3: the local community. So the Caravan is doing a really
Speaker 3: good job. Some of the offseason wins. You know, I'd
Speaker 3: like to at least give major credit to Desiree and
Speaker 3: the hire of the new women's basketball coach. That was
Speaker 3: kind of an interesting dynamic of how that came about.
Speaker 3: I think ultimately that's going to be a win that's
Speaker 3: going to be a net positive for Arizona women's basketball.
Speaker 2: And that's saying a lot. That's saying a lot because
Speaker 2: everyone loved most everyone loved Idea, right, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hard to replace her, But I like you think
Speaker 2: that she will fit in fine. It might take a
Speaker 2: little bit a minute or two, but yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I see what you see.
Speaker 3: There's tremendous support here for women's basketball, maybe unlike many
Speaker 3: others in the in the conference. So we're excited about
Speaker 3: I am about what she's doing.
Speaker 2: The new hire in becky Burg. We already got a call. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and nine on the ball. Who's this, Hey, Steve,
Speaker 2: This is Doug.
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey, Doug, how are you good to hear from me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Too, you know, I'm just running around town. I just
Speaker 5: flipped on the radio and I hear Rhino on there,
Speaker 5: and uh, I just want to say, Hey, Rhinos, Doug,
Speaker 5: you're one of the more underappreciated people in the in
Speaker 5: the basketball program. I just wanted to say that, you know,
Speaker 5: I recognize your insights are really valuable. I'm glad that
Speaker 5: you're still doing the radio show after all these years.
Speaker 5: And I always trust, I always trust what you say
Speaker 5: on the air. I feel like you always understand, you know,
Speaker 5: the not just the x's and o's, but also like
Speaker 5: what's between the ears on the players. And I think
Speaker 5: the community doesn't really I don't know if the community
Speaker 5: really appreciates how much you have your finger on the
Speaker 5: pulse of the program. So I just wanted to say
Speaker 5: thank you for all that for many years of service.
Speaker 2: Well thanks, Doug.
Speaker 3: I absolutely remember you know who you are and love
Speaker 3: your support of the programs over the years. You've been
Speaker 3: an ardent supporter through all the thing of Arizona Athletics
Speaker 3: and your I do appreciate the commentary. I've lived a
Speaker 3: blessed life to be connected to Arizona Athletics and more
Speaker 3: particular Arizona basketball for as long as I.
Speaker 2: I was gonna when you when I got you to
Speaker 2: come on yesterday, I was going to say that to you.
Speaker 2: I don't know a guy. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: guys who've had a lot of success and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: You're one of them because you get to do what
Speaker 2: you want to do right. You're there, You're associated with
Speaker 2: the basketball team, they're successful, you get to do the
Speaker 2: play by player analyst, and then you have a real
Speaker 2: world job, which is a fan fantastic job. You work
Speaker 2: for a dude. I really like a lot Peter Evans.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 3: And it's a local community owned, you know, family owned business,
Speaker 3: been in business, will be fifty years next spring, so
Speaker 3: to be to be connected to a locally owned business
Speaker 3: like Bomboyage. When I talk to people and they say, well,
Speaker 3: what do you do when you're not calling games? Well,
Speaker 3: we're selling vacations and I get to travel. So one
Speaker 3: week from tomorrow I'm headed to Ireland so for on
Speaker 3: a business trip. So my business trips aren't to the
Speaker 3: Tulsa Airport Marriott for a convention and a stale donut.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll be staying at the Ashford Castle in Ireland.
Speaker 3: So I do live a pretty blessed life. And back
Speaker 3: to Doug's point, part of that blessed life is my
Speaker 3: partner on the air for the games, Brian Jeffries. He
Speaker 3: is to me the very best in the industry and
Speaker 3: he makes me sound better. So I appreciate Doug the
Speaker 3: comments about my inside. Yeah, I couldn't do it without Brian,
Speaker 3: that guy is speaking of, and I think people are
Speaker 3: starting to recognize and realize. I don't think people don't
Speaker 3: appreciate who Brian is, but even as much as they
Speaker 3: do appreciate him, they don't appreciate him enough.
Speaker 2: Because that guy's a pro. He is a pros pro
Speaker 2: and he was here Bone before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5: We hear every now and then we'll hear about, you know,
Speaker 5: like the play by play guy for X y Z
Speaker 5: School has retired or something, and it always just gives
Speaker 5: me chills because I can't stand the idea of someday
Speaker 5: Brian not doing our games. I will say that his son,
Speaker 5: Brody is I think a real talent up and coming.
Speaker 5: He's already doing you of a baseball and I think,
Speaker 5: as you do softball too, or women's basketball.
Speaker 3: And he did women's basketball for Yeah, he did women's
Speaker 3: basketball for a season. And then he is stepping up
Speaker 3: his game and they'll be utilizing him more. As the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve requires all of these events to be on
Speaker 3: ESPN or ESPN Plus or some streaming network, you'll be
Speaker 3: hearing Brody quite a bit more. And I actually had
Speaker 3: an opportunity to broadcast in Arizona basketball three game series
Speaker 3: with Brody because Brian Jefferies couldn't make the trip for
Speaker 3: the Battle for Atlantis this year. Doug, if you recall
Speaker 3: that he was staying back for the Arizona ASU Territorial
Speaker 3: Cup football game, which he should and we want him
Speaker 3: on that so to be able to join Brody on
Speaker 3: the air. I actually called him Brian and two or
Speaker 3: three times because he sounds so much like his father does.
Speaker 3: His cadences delivery is very professional and very much like
Speaker 3: his dad. He has a very bright future in broadcasting
Speaker 3: if he chooses to do that, and I, like you
Speaker 3: hope that that is a start here and we get
Speaker 3: to see and actually hear him more on Arizona broadcast
Speaker 3: if it's I think he's done some gymnastics meets for Arizona.
Speaker 3: He's definitely stepping in on on the baseball side of things.
Speaker 3: But Brian and Brody are treasures of Tucson and where
Speaker 3: we really are blessed because those guys they care. They've
Speaker 3: got great passion. That's one thing I think you you've
Speaker 3: touched on it, Doug. It's not just Brian's ability to
Speaker 3: deliver a great broadcast. It's the passion and the care
Speaker 3: for the school and the players and the coaches. It
Speaker 3: comes through his voice, doesn't it, Doug. I mean you
Speaker 3: hear that in his dogs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he lives it right. It's like family, It's his
Speaker 5: extended family. And it's not just the ex It's not
Speaker 5: just you know what happened on the field or on
Speaker 5: the court. It's it's the context all around it, and
Speaker 5: he really paints the picture and he you know, obviously
Speaker 5: he'll credit guys that he learned from for decades, you know,
Speaker 5: as a as a young man. But now you just
Speaker 5: you just pay it forward to the next generation. And
Speaker 5: you know, two songs been blessed. A lot of really
Speaker 5: talented people have gone to lucrative or you know, successful
Speaker 5: careers and broadcasting. You know, Steve Rivera is one of them.
Speaker 5: You know how lucrative Steve, but you know successful. And
Speaker 5: then you look at you know, Ryan Ratkey, you look
Speaker 5: at Dan Hicks, and you know Tom Tolbert up in
Speaker 5: the Bay Area, and you know, all kinds of people
Speaker 5: on every walk of you know, every corner of the
Speaker 5: athletic campus here. We've had a lot of a lot
Speaker 5: of guys and gals move on to success, which is
Speaker 5: pretty cool to see.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but again, what I.
Speaker 5: Ask you know, the name Hansen has come up a
Speaker 5: lot in you've a you know, athletics. I always forget
Speaker 5: are you connected family wise to any of the other
Speaker 5: people the name Hansen that have come through the athletics.
Speaker 2: Department and it's an interesting quote.
Speaker 3: And when I first started with the basketball program, obviously
Speaker 3: the sports writer for Therison a daily star, the great
Speaker 3: editor Greg Hanson. I am not related to Greg at all,
Speaker 3: so there was always a question of hey, are you
Speaker 3: the sports writer's son.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: And then at the time, if you recall Doug, the
Speaker 3: packed Ten commissioner at the time was Tom Hanson spelled
Speaker 3: the same exact way, and we are not related either. Well,
Speaker 3: his son Brian was a student manager at the exact
Speaker 3: same time I was there, so I was connected to him.
Speaker 3: And then Erica and I have a different spelling name,
Speaker 3: so Erica Barnes formerly Erica. She's h anso n She's
Speaker 3: Norwegian descent. I'm Danish descent with the e en. But
Speaker 3: she and I we've known each other a long time.
Speaker 3: She was a marketing intern in athletics when I started
Speaker 3: working in the Wildcat Club together and we shared an office.
Speaker 3: So she's gone to athletic greatness. I'm still doing the
Speaker 3: same old thing, so she's out kicked my coverage. She's
Speaker 3: an awesome person and we wish her the very best
Speaker 3: and her future endeavors. But what a great, great contribution
Speaker 3: she made for twenty plus years to athletics and bring
Speaker 3: back the handsome part of that Doug.
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, all right. So we've established her one
Speaker 5: of one and I just want to say we appreciate you.
Speaker 5: So I'll look forward to hearing more.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Doug. We'll see you soon,
Speaker 2: all right, you will. Yeah, thanks, good call, thank you.
Speaker 2: Let's say before we get to the break, we're going
Speaker 2: to have a pretty good show here. I think I
Speaker 2: always kind of a I come through with a late
Speaker 2: hit in the bottom of the ninth to save the game,
Speaker 2: and I'm just saving it. I'm not winning it. Uh.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have coach Candrea here at in about three eighteen,
Speaker 2: talked just about you know what's going on. He's still
Speaker 2: helping with the softball program. I think he's still helping
Speaker 2: in the athletic department. So you know he still has
Speaker 2: his after never retired. Don't retire because you become a
Speaker 2: busier person to be Hey, you've got time. It's like
Speaker 2: I call coach Lopez all the time, can you come on,
Speaker 2: I got baseball. I gotta do this. And everybody wants
Speaker 2: to a piece of him, right, and Candrea is one
Speaker 2: of those guys. And then at four seventeen, we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk to John Fina, former U of A football player,
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill guy. I want to talk to him about
Speaker 2: football one and two, how it was for the draft
Speaker 2: when he was getting drafted, because today's draft, right, and
Speaker 2: we'll see if t Mac gets drafted early or mid
Speaker 2: first round. Yeah, there's so many varying Oh.
Speaker 3: I know, and all the different experts at him. What
Speaker 3: was the latest I saw? Maybe tenth? Is that what
Speaker 3: I thought?
Speaker 2: For doubt to Dallas, which is nice, the one of
Speaker 2: the lower ones, like twenty twenty two, and there was
Speaker 2: Have you watched the internet. I haven't watched it closely
Speaker 2: in the last couple of days. I hate the Twitter.
Speaker 2: Everyone's an expert. Everyone's an expert. Even the experts are saying,
Speaker 2: well this guy, I'm hearing this and this, and it's
Speaker 2: not good news about t Mac. And then you know,
Speaker 2: when you're in Tucson, you're saying, there's full of it.
Speaker 2: You and I both know this.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to draft, either NBA or Major
Speaker 3: League Baseball or NFL, my hope for an Arizona Wildcat
Speaker 3: guy like a t Mac is that he just lands
Speaker 3: in the right situation. So if it's tenth, twelfth, twenty
Speaker 3: second to me, yeah, the money might be a slight
Speaker 3: variable there, but you want him in a great situation
Speaker 3: so that he can get off from the right places.
Speaker 3: So many times, if you get drafted to the wrong
Speaker 3: franchise that has, in his case, maybe a quarterback that
Speaker 3: doesn't jive with you, or an offensive coordinator that doesn't
Speaker 3: utilize your strengths, then your career could be dictated based
Speaker 3: on those first couple of years.
Speaker 2: Sure, I remember, and a lot of the comments are
Speaker 2: not always accurate. I remember when Richard came out and
Speaker 2: you both. I spent time with Richard in that group,
Speaker 2: Luke and Lauren and Michael Wright, that two thousand and
Speaker 2: one group when he was decided to come out as
Speaker 2: a junior. One of the pundits of a friend of
Speaker 2: mine he has been on the show a few times,
Speaker 2: said I don't think he's ready for the NBA. His
Speaker 2: stats don't show it. You know, he's making you know,
Speaker 2: a certain percentage of his shots, he's averaging twelve points
Speaker 2: whatever a game, doesn't really have a handle on it.
Speaker 2: Yet again, I'm thinking, I know you're good at what
Speaker 2: you do, but you don't see what people see jump
Speaker 2: through the gym. He's kind of got a good hit
Speaker 2: at that time, a good IQ for basketball. Obviously, now
Speaker 2: he's doing what he's doing, he has a great IQ.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, and I'm thinking, you
Speaker 2: don't see what he offers because you don't see him
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're right, and there's so many variables to
Speaker 3: to how you're going to be successful moving down the road,
Speaker 3: and Richard's one of those guys. I agree his stats
Speaker 3: maybe didn't jump off the page, but boy, talk about
Speaker 3: where he's taken his career.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: Also during that time, let's throw that roster at you him, Gilbert, Jason, Luke, Lauren,
Speaker 2: Michael so and you're playing for LUT. I always can
Speaker 2: say this that who held Michael Jordan to sixteen points
Speaker 2: this seasoning being Smith exactly and in Lut's programs, unless
Speaker 2: you were Jason Terry in ninety nine, you weren't scoring
Speaker 2: a lot of points.
Speaker 3: Right, and you weren't given the green light relatively speaking.
Speaker 3: You and I both have talked about this at nauseum.
Speaker 3: The two thousand and one team that you just referenced,
Speaker 3: arguably and maybe for my money, the most talented group
Speaker 3: of Wildcats, but an interesting group, a cast of characters
Speaker 3: to a certain degree when you throw in Eugene Edgerson
Speaker 3: in the mix with Luke and Richard and Gilbert and
Speaker 3: how those different dynamics worked personality wise, that was definitely.
Speaker 2: A coaching job. Loud Olsoen it was.
Speaker 3: It's easy to say, wow, great talent, but he had
Speaker 3: personalities to juggle to.
Speaker 2: That said, you forgot. Another personality is Ricky Anderson who
Speaker 2: had oh he was a stick the Whippi boy from
Speaker 2: lut even though they were really close.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm great Ricky Anderson story. Every day
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Speaker 3: he was having an off day, Steve, he would tell you, yeah,
Speaker 3: seventy seven percent today, coach seventy seven percent. If he's
Speaker 3: feeling good, ninety three percent today, coach ninety three percent.
Speaker 3: So Ricky what a great dude, great fun and he
Speaker 3: had a we had a fun time with Ricky on
Speaker 3: campus for his five years.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to On the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with b to
Speaker 2: d Is, Ryan Hanson, Rhino and now on the phone,
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame softball coach Mike Candrea. You may know
Speaker 2: who he is. Mike. How you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. How are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're fine. How's that retirement of your ghost going?
Speaker 4: Oh? It is absolutely wonderful. You know, every day is a.
Speaker 2: Saturday, Die, I would say kind of facetiously, because you're
Speaker 2: still busy as all hell.
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I've got one foot in, one foot out.
Speaker 14: But you know what, I'm having fun and doing what
Speaker 14: I can.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you're not good at retirement, but
Speaker 2: you're very good at retirement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Coach. It's great to look.
Speaker 14: If you look at my golf game, you would not think.
Speaker 4: That I was retired.
Speaker 3: That's another problem altogether. But hey, coach, good to connect
Speaker 3: with you. Love love getting around you. And one of
Speaker 3: the things that I've noticed, and I know that is
Speaker 3: maybe a passion of yours, is coaching the coaches. And
Speaker 3: I think that's a really incredible part of the athletic
Speaker 3: administration is it's not just about coaching the student athletes.
Speaker 3: That's that is the essence of what an athletics department does,
Speaker 3: but you've got to you've got to develop your coaches,
Speaker 3: and can you talk a little bit about the types
Speaker 3: of things that you're doing in addition to just the
Speaker 3: one on one connections that you're trying to help bolster
Speaker 3: and grow this next generation of great coaches so that
Speaker 3: they can they can really flourish as Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: potential coaches in their own right.
Speaker 14: Well, right, you know, I just try to keep myself
Speaker 14: available for them. You know, they've got busy schedules, but
Speaker 14: they'll reach out to me every now and then and
Speaker 14: we'll sit down and talk about some things, whether it's
Speaker 14: issues that they're having or advice that they want. But
Speaker 14: you know, I just really wanted to be number one,
Speaker 14: have a seat at the table with the leadership team
Speaker 14: to represent our coaching staff because they don't have time
Speaker 14: to do that all the time. And then number two,
Speaker 14: just to make myself available and if I can help
Speaker 14: in any way, whether it's whether it's some questions about
Speaker 14: team building, whether it's questions about leadership, whether it's questions
Speaker 14: about everything but the x's and o's.
Speaker 4: You know, I stay away from that stuff.
Speaker 14: But it's been a lot of fun and it's been
Speaker 14: very gratifying for me to be able to continue to
Speaker 14: kind of keep a pulse on you of a athletics,
Speaker 14: which is something that I love so dearly, and it's
Speaker 14: been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: So you retired, I want to say, I'm gonna guess now,
Speaker 2: maybe three four years ago, I'm guessing you were an
Speaker 2: ad here for a cup of coffee, for a couple
Speaker 2: of coffee. Let me take a guess here. You're thankful
Speaker 2: you're not the ad giferent the climate of what's going on,
Speaker 2: I was telling Rhino maybe fifteen minutes ago, I'm glad
Speaker 2: I'm kind of almost out of the business in a
Speaker 2: sense that it's a crazy world that you guys are
Speaker 2: living in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is very.
Speaker 14: A lot of moving parts, let's say, but I think
Speaker 14: an exciting time depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is, and we have.
Speaker 14: To find our way to continue to stay competitive. And
Speaker 14: there's some challenges ahead of us that I'm sure desires
Speaker 14: working really hard to make sure that we can meet
Speaker 14: those because we are all in you know, we're not
Speaker 14: looking to go backwards by any means, and so.
Speaker 4: We're going to have to be creative and smart.
Speaker 14: And yeah, the future is going to be quite interesting,
Speaker 14: to tell you the truth.
Speaker 3: Coach Kendra, from your perspective, the local Tucson fan, what's
Speaker 3: the one thing they could do to support Arizona Athletics
Speaker 3: if they're if they're.
Speaker 2: Not the Powerball winner?
Speaker 3: Right, that'd be awesome if you had a couple of
Speaker 3: Powerball winners to write big checks.
Speaker 2: We get that in this nil era.
Speaker 3: But for that that twosone in that just loves the Wildcats,
Speaker 3: what's one or two things they could do to really
Speaker 3: just support this program? And like you said, it's ever
Speaker 3: evolving in this it is what it is. So if
Speaker 3: you love the Wildcats, you need to love the Wildcats.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I think basically the just the continued support.
Speaker 14: You know, we need to put people in the seats
Speaker 14: number one. So buying a ticket for a football season
Speaker 14: ticket helps us tremendously because you know, the two movers
Speaker 14: are going to be football and then it's basketball, and
Speaker 14: so we have to make sure that we do everything
Speaker 14: we can to do our part. And I think any
Speaker 14: person can help by and I always said this, you know,
Speaker 14: even when I was coaching, I said, you know, the
Speaker 14: best way you can help our softball program is to
Speaker 14: buy season tickets for football, and I don't think that's
Speaker 14: changed one bit at all. I think, you know, we
Speaker 14: need everyone support and we need to make sure that
Speaker 14: the narrative around the community is a positive one. And
Speaker 14: I think there's a lot of things that are in
Speaker 14: my eyes that are moving in the right direction, and
Speaker 14: they're very positive. To start with is our coaching staff.
Speaker 14: I think we have a tremendous coaching staff in all
Speaker 14: of our sports, and they all deserve support. And I
Speaker 14: think our community has always been the key to the
Speaker 14: success of Arizona Athletics.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I agree with you. I
Speaker 2: had Rocky on maybe a week or so ago after
Speaker 2: the passion of Centric, and I've said this a few
Speaker 2: times over the last couple of years that these times,
Speaker 2: you know, when Jed was doing really well, and obviously
Speaker 2: Tommy was doing really well, and it rivaled the mid
Speaker 2: nineties when the glory years in at least in my time,
Speaker 2: and even before that, you were winning championships like crazy,
Speaker 2: and that this program was headed in that direction. It
Speaker 2: kind of still is. Look at the look at the
Speaker 2: programs they are doing really well. Would you kind of
Speaker 2: agree with me with that?
Speaker 4: No, I would.
Speaker 14: I think right now we've got a lot of good
Speaker 14: things that are happening.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 14: I think Chip Chip has got the baseball program going
Speaker 14: in the right direction.
Speaker 4: I think our golf programs are doing well.
Speaker 14: I think softball is I'm so proud of Caitlin and
Speaker 14: the j she's done. She has done a really a
Speaker 14: fantastic job, and I think they're going to be competitive
Speaker 14: in postseason. Tennis has been really good. You know, I
Speaker 14: think all of our sports right now are moving the
Speaker 14: needle in the right direction. You know, Unfortunately you only
Speaker 14: read a lot about men's basketball and football, but there's
Speaker 14: a lot to be proud of here.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 14: I really like our coaches, and I know they're all
Speaker 14: in and they're all doing their part to make this
Speaker 14: transition as smoothly as we can because it is going
Speaker 14: to be challenging. And you know, we're still waiting for
Speaker 14: the case to get settled with the revenue share, and
Speaker 14: I think that's going to take us into a whole
Speaker 14: nother direction with college athletics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach Andrea, for those listeners that maybe are new
Speaker 3: to Tucson or maybe the last ten to fifteen years,
Speaker 3: you touched on something about the overall breadth of the
Speaker 3: Arizona athletics department, and Steve mentioned it back in the
Speaker 3: nineties and even in the two thousands, the success of.
Speaker 2: So many different programs.
Speaker 3: Yes, men's basketball won a national title in ninety seven,
Speaker 3: that was the flag bearer. You were winning national titles.
Speaker 3: But the other sports that just kept competing at an
Speaker 3: exceptionally high level. Bush right, the women's volleyball Bush Dave
Speaker 3: Rubio brought the volleyball program to a Final four in
Speaker 3: two thousand and one from a place where it wasn't
Speaker 3: very competitive in the eighties. I wanted to take you back,
Speaker 3: coach ca Andrea to McHale of the nineties, and you
Speaker 3: were walking around McHale and you'd rub shoulders with the
Speaker 3: great Dick Tomy, You'd rub shoulders with Loud Olsen, a
Speaker 3: Hall of famer, Basketball Hall of Famer, Frank Bush.
Speaker 2: Fred Harvey is still there.
Speaker 3: But guys like like that, can you talk about just
Speaker 3: the camaraderie that you guys I knew have as had
Speaker 3: as coaches in the ultimate respect for each other because
Speaker 3: the programs were just being run at it at a
Speaker 3: very high level.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, we I always go back and we
Speaker 14: had great leaders and great people, and we enjoyed one another.
Speaker 4: We leaned on one another.
Speaker 14: And we enjoyed the success of one another. And you know,
Speaker 14: the climate has changed tremendously with the TV revenue that's
Speaker 14: coming in now and the growth of the SEC and
Speaker 14: the Big Ten and and all that. But back in
Speaker 14: the nineties, you know, we just we put our mind
Speaker 14: to making our teams better and we helped each other recruit,
Speaker 14: which was another big thing. And I think that's a
Speaker 14: big part of it is. You know, we have a
Speaker 14: great community here and I think two sounds of a wonderful place,
Speaker 14: and and we have to continue to use that to
Speaker 14: bring in athletes. But at the end of the day, Ry,
Speaker 14: you know, there's so many more choices, and you know,
Speaker 14: back in the day, we could pretty much dominate the
Speaker 14: southern California market, and you know, today those same people
Speaker 14: are moving all over the country and so it is
Speaker 14: much more challenging to get into great athletes. But coaching
Speaker 14: is coaching, you know. I mean, I think we still
Speaker 14: have coaches here that do a great job of developing
Speaker 14: our athletes and preparing them for life after their sports
Speaker 14: are done. And I think sometimes that's overlooked. You know,
Speaker 14: our academic results have been extremely high over the last
Speaker 14: five years. We keep breaking records on our GPAs, and
Speaker 14: so I think there's just a lot of differences in
Speaker 14: today's world than there was back then.
Speaker 4: I think life was simpler in.
Speaker 14: The nineties, and you know, most of my coaching was
Speaker 14: done without social media, without cell phones, and you start
Speaker 14: adding those things, and I think just kids today have
Speaker 14: so much more to think about and to navigate through,
Speaker 14: and it has become tough. You know, I was talking
Speaker 14: to someone today about back in the day, we always
Speaker 14: were concerned about mental performance. You know, how can we
Speaker 14: have our athletes be able to do their best job
Speaker 14: when when their best job was needed and handling pressure
Speaker 14: and all those things.
Speaker 4: Well, today it's about mental health.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I mean it's a real thing. There's a
Speaker 14: lot of kids that are navigating very tough times, and
Speaker 14: some of these things don't make it any easier. But
Speaker 14: I think the University of Arizona and our athletic department
Speaker 14: do a great job in giving the resources that they need.
Speaker 14: And you know, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 14: it's as long as you keep the student athlete in
Speaker 14: the center of everything, then you're going to be okay.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I've learned in this business
Speaker 2: after being in it for a long time and having
Speaker 2: covering Loot and covering you to a degree and doing
Speaker 2: stories on Frankelnbellin, is that coaching matters. We've seen coaches
Speaker 2: other places in here come and go because they just
Speaker 2: weren't good enough, and you can kind of tell who
Speaker 2: they are or whatever. But when you got here in
Speaker 2: the mid eighties and you're a baseball guy, right when
Speaker 2: you got here, what did you think you needed to
Speaker 2: do one to be established yourself as a guy who's
Speaker 2: going to be good at what he did. And eventually
Speaker 2: you do became that guy. And did you have a
Speaker 2: did you use your secret sauce early? Because you obviously
Speaker 2: had some kind of magic for doing it for so long?
Speaker 2: And Will.
Speaker 14: Well, I think if I if I look at myself
Speaker 14: back then, it was it was all about building relationships,
Speaker 14: number one. And it was all about recruiting high character
Speaker 14: kids that were competitive. And then it was it was.
Speaker 4: High standards, you know.
Speaker 14: I mean, every day you walk out there, you can
Speaker 14: set a standard and it's your choice whether it's going
Speaker 14: to be high or low and many of those coaches
Speaker 14: you're talking about had very high standards and they held
Speaker 14: their athletes accountable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that that's really.
Speaker 14: It's not a secret sauce, but it's it's something that
Speaker 14: you have to work at each and every day because
Speaker 14: it can be tough. I mean, coaching can be a
Speaker 14: lonely job at times, and to stay true to yourself
Speaker 14: and follow your moral compass throughout your career can be
Speaker 14: sometimes challenging.
Speaker 3: To that end, Coach, ke Andre, who were some of
Speaker 3: the coaches or administrators or people in your time when
Speaker 3: you were in the on the diamond that helped you
Speaker 3: through those ups and downs? There was a many many ups, coach,
Speaker 3: but I know you may you probably remember some of
Speaker 3: the losses in those championship series in games, maybe more
Speaker 3: than even some of the wins. Who are some of
Speaker 3: the people that you leaned on peer to peer.
Speaker 14: Well, I mean there's so many. But I was blessed
Speaker 14: to have a locker next to loud Olson. So that's
Speaker 14: one of the big differences right now is that it
Speaker 14: seems like everyone's kind of in their own place, and
Speaker 14: there's never a time when all the coaches are in
Speaker 14: the same locker room. Well back then, we had one
Speaker 14: locker room, and so you know, I would I would
Speaker 14: dress next salute every day and we would talk shop
Speaker 14: and Jerry Kendall and Jim Wing and you know, Frank
Speaker 14: Bush was another one that kind of felt some of
Speaker 14: the same pains that I did. And you know it
Speaker 14: was just Rick Lorose, a good friend of mine, and yeah,
Speaker 14: kind of comes out of the same mold. You know,
Speaker 14: he was very competitive and great recruiter, and you know,
Speaker 14: he knew how to handle kids.
Speaker 4: He was a great relationship builder.
Speaker 14: And so I took a little bit from everyone, you know,
Speaker 14: but I spent a lot of time My office was
Speaker 14: across from Jerry Kendall and Jim Wing and Jerry Stitt.
Speaker 4: And obviously with a.
Speaker 14: Commonality we had in the bad ball game, I used
Speaker 14: to spend a lot of time just sitting around there
Speaker 14: and she in the ball with him and bouncing things off.
Speaker 14: And you know, as a young coach, it's it's.
Speaker 4: So important, you know.
Speaker 14: I think sometimes when you're a young coach, you kind
Speaker 14: of feel lonely and you don't know where to go.
Speaker 14: But the one great thing about all of those people
Speaker 14: is they were they were always willing to share information
Speaker 14: and try to make you better. And Dick Tomy, you know,
Speaker 14: another one that just was a very very good friend
Speaker 14: of mine that did things the right way, and I
Speaker 14: learned from him, you know, And so I, yeah, I
Speaker 14: always go back to my baseball background. And you know,
Speaker 14: in junior college baseball, I was surrounded by some really
Speaker 14: phenomenal coaches and like the Gary Wards of the world,
Speaker 14: and Jim Friese and you Rich all days, and you know,
Speaker 14: Freddie Nelson at Scottsdale, Herboletto plug Marriage and I used
Speaker 14: to be in their back pocket as much as I could,
Speaker 14: because I think that's the way you learn. And when
Speaker 14: I came here with my baseball background, I was very
Speaker 14: comfortable to sharing information because all the information we have
Speaker 14: is not.
Speaker 4: Unique, you know.
Speaker 14: But but sometimes you realize that it's it's the delivery
Speaker 14: that matters most. And so I would spend a lot
Speaker 14: of time watching these guys operate and talk to the
Speaker 14: verbiage that they use. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 14: you know, you've got to be able to you've got
Speaker 14: to be able to get kids to love what they're
Speaker 14: doing and and then to treat them with respect and
Speaker 14: honesty and and build a relationship that's going to last
Speaker 14: a lifetime.
Speaker 2: One quick question before we go, Mike, we talked. I
Speaker 2: joked about you being busy. Now tell me you're your
Speaker 2: association with the softball team now and and how tied
Speaker 2: into you are you?
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, you know, I'm when when Erica stepped down,
Speaker 14: I became the sport administrator for softball this year, so
Speaker 14: I've I've been able to do a little more than
Speaker 14: planned with them, But truly I've been a fan since
Speaker 14: I left, watching Caitlin do such a great job with
Speaker 14: this program. And so I'm around quite a bit there
Speaker 14: and that's been a lot.
Speaker 4: Of fun, you know.
Speaker 14: And then I'm on a leadership team for Desiree and
Speaker 14: and that has been really good to be able to
Speaker 14: see college athletics from a ten thousand foot view versus
Speaker 14: I was always in the submarine worrying about softball, and
Speaker 14: that has been very enlightening and it really has helped
Speaker 14: me continue to grow about college athletics, you know. And
Speaker 14: it's fun to be able to go out to practices
Speaker 14: and watch Tommy work and be able to sit around
Speaker 14: and talk with him. And We've got a new swim
Speaker 14: coach and a program that's doing very well and enjoying
Speaker 14: watching them. And then tennis with Clancy and Ryan have
Speaker 14: done a great job. I mean, there's just so many
Speaker 14: good things out here. Beca Morris and then now I'm
Speaker 14: very excited that we got to do you know, new
Speaker 14: women's basketball coach that I think is a young and
Speaker 14: hungry and and is willing to sit down and listen
Speaker 14: and and talk. You know, I'm going to try to
Speaker 14: help her as much as I can. And uh, I hated,
Speaker 14: hated to.
Speaker 4: See a d go.
Speaker 14: She she was a wild cat from back back in
Speaker 14: the nineties when when I'm when we were talking, and
Speaker 14: a great athlete and has done a great job. But
Speaker 14: you know, she's making a move to SMU, so we
Speaker 14: wish her the best, and.
Speaker 4: I just I just like where we're at right now.
Speaker 14: I think Desiree has done a really good job in
Speaker 14: navigating this new climate. And I'm just so glad that
Speaker 14: I'm not in that chair, because there's no way in hell.
Speaker 2: I want to. You're right, Mike, as usual, thank you
Speaker 2: very much, thanks for doing this today.
Speaker 4: All right, guys, good to see and thanks for all
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Mike Kenrea, a great guy, one
Speaker 2: of the great guys with us today. Let's tick the break.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on
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Speaker 2: Thanks for filling in here. We've got Kobe running the
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Speaker 3: his experiences, talking about what he learned, who he leaned
Speaker 3: on that He is a master communicator, a very good
Speaker 3: department person for Arizona. To have him still on staff
Speaker 3: as a resource for Desiree and the rest of the
Speaker 3: coaching staff, I think is brilliant to keep him around
Speaker 3: and and just it's not just about keeping him around.
Speaker 2: He that guy's contributing daily. And the second one I
Speaker 2: got was great to hear a voice of reason and
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Speaker 2: coach Andy Lopez is the bushes up. They don't they
Speaker 2: don't win by accident, right. They know exactly what they're doing,
Speaker 2: and they're they're firm, they're direct, and they're trusting. And
Speaker 2: the kids either know it or they don't write And
Speaker 2: they play for lout come on. And I've said this
Speaker 2: thousands of times when you were in the locker room
Speaker 2: more than more than me.
Speaker 1: Uh uh.
Speaker 2: They played hard for him because they didn't want to
Speaker 2: disappoint him, and he had a pretty good scheme.
Speaker 3: Both were needed, Yeah, both were needed. It's not just
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Speaker 3: the game. You've got you've got to be able to scout,
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to prepare, and Coach Olson
Speaker 3: one of the greatest preparation teachers in the game. But
Speaker 3: you obviously have to get your players to play better
Speaker 3: than they think. And guys like Chanting Fry and a
Speaker 3: Jason Terry come to mind, where you developed them into
Speaker 3: better than who they maybe even hoped to become. But
Speaker 3: there is a common thread when you when you talk
Speaker 3: about the coaches that have been and come through Arizona
Speaker 3: Athletics and have been exceptionally successful, the common theme is
Speaker 3: they're good people. If you start there and they treat
Speaker 3: people well, they recruit and bring in coaches of high character.
Speaker 3: They don't just have success on the court. There's a plan.
Speaker 3: They hold people accountable. You heard coach Kendrea talk about that,
Speaker 3: and that's something that in this day and age, is
Speaker 3: a different dynamic to hold this generation of student athletes accountable.
Speaker 3: With cell phone, social media, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Good a call, Hello, you're on the air, nine on
Speaker 2: the ball. Who's this? I hate Bill? Hey Bill?
Speaker 4: How are you good? Right?
Speaker 18: Rhino, as much as you are a voice the Wildcats
Speaker 18: and as big as you've become. And I've been listening.
Speaker 18: I've been going to the football, baseball, and basketball almost
Speaker 18: my whole life here, and I'm sixty two now. But
Speaker 18: as big as you are and as stamlish as you
Speaker 18: are in our household, your mom's always number one because
Speaker 18: she taught all my kids in kindergarten.
Speaker 3: I love it, Bill, Yeah, Jane Hanson. So they were
Speaker 3: at Richardson Elementary here in town.
Speaker 18: Yep, yep. And no matter how big you get, chill
Speaker 18: always be bigger than you in our house.
Speaker 2: I echo that sentiment.
Speaker 3: My mom unfortunately passed away it'll be four years this
Speaker 3: coming month in May, and was an incredible supporter of me.
Speaker 3: And part of that what's interesting, Bill is she was
Speaker 3: a huge Arizona basketball fan, and after games and I
Speaker 3: would call the games, I would call her on the
Speaker 3: phone and she would tell me everything I should have
Speaker 3: said on the radio about the performance or what should
Speaker 3: have happened. And Arizona has never committed a foul in
Speaker 3: her books.
Speaker 2: She is that ultimate fan.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she passed on her love of the Wildcats
Speaker 3: through her teaching to your three kids. Thank you for
Speaker 3: mentioning that, and I don't know if you remember or
Speaker 3: even knew this. She was my kindergarten teacher as well,
Speaker 3: so I say she was the best at it.
Speaker 18: That's awesome. Yeah, she made them love them even though
Speaker 18: you know they grew up in a Wildcat family. She
Speaker 18: perpetuated that with them and it was awesome. She was great.
Speaker 18: You were a manager when my oldest was in there,
Speaker 18: so we ran the gamut with that, but it was awesome.
Speaker 18: And I want to tell you thank you for what
Speaker 18: you do. You are very good at what you do
Speaker 18: in ourpreciate it, but your mom was the best.
Speaker 3: I love that, and thanks for your love and support
Speaker 3: of the Wildcats and what they're doing now. It takes
Speaker 3: people like you to keep the community going. And coach
Speaker 3: Candrea talked about that, Steve. It's not just the nil
Speaker 3: and the money that's being thrown around. It's not just
Speaker 3: coaches being great at what they do. It still matters.
Speaker 3: It's that community support and people like Bill and others
Speaker 3: that come to games that support from AFAR as best
Speaker 3: as they can because those things still matter to student athletes.
Speaker 3: They still want to play in front of full houses,
Speaker 3: They want to play in front of crowds that care
Speaker 3: about them. So all of these things, there's more to
Speaker 3: it now than ever, but all of these things matter.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, Thanks, thank you. I appreciate you. Thanks for listening. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: no question. Why do you think? How mush t we have?
Speaker 2: You got about five minutes? Right, We're good? Okay. We've
Speaker 2: seen players come and go, both the females and males
Speaker 2: very in sports. Is it the money? Is it? The
Speaker 2: need for change? Is what is it? What's like the top?
Speaker 2: Give me the top three in order though, in order
Speaker 2: in order, because if you're coming here and we've seen it,
Speaker 2: we've seen it anyway before in ail, right, because they
Speaker 2: wasn't a fan, they weren't getting time whatever and time,
Speaker 2: so give me, give me. I'll start with the number one,
Speaker 2: which may not be what you might think it is.
Speaker 2: They can.
Speaker 3: Start with the rule change, right, So transfer portal has
Speaker 3: opened up a whole new opportunity that you were penalized
Speaker 3: back in the nineties and two thousands, even not that
Speaker 3: long ago. If you wanted to transfer, you had to
Speaker 3: sit out right, So that was a punitive transfer rule.
Speaker 3: And I think some of the rule makes sense, but
Speaker 3: I also recognize that student athletes life changes around you
Speaker 3: coaching changes your own thoughts of what a school was.
Speaker 3: You go to school and it's not what you thought,
Speaker 3: and so you may want to make a change, even
Speaker 3: as a regular student. Kolby knows this. As a student,
Speaker 3: you come here and it may not be what you think.
Speaker 3: So I would start with the opportunity to change has
Speaker 3: been presented to them. There's no doubt the financial upside,
Speaker 3: especially in the revenue generating sports. That would be Number
Speaker 3: two for me is the financial opportunity. And then I
Speaker 3: do think there is always and still will ever be
Speaker 3: the grass is greener. So it's what is my opportunity,
Speaker 3: not just to make nil money, but it's to further
Speaker 3: my game. I'm going to get more playing time, the
Speaker 3: coach is going to like me better, I'm going to
Speaker 3: like my circumstances. I'm going to elevate to a program
Speaker 3: that is maybe viewed nationally as an elevation opportunity. We
Speaker 3: see that with mid majors making their moves, So it's
Speaker 3: not just Arizona that sees players leave. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of schools that see that. So those would probably be
Speaker 3: the three for me. Okay, No, I think the first
Speaker 3: one is a little bit different. But yeah, it's number
Speaker 3: one before it with they're handcuffed a little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so to.
Speaker 3: Say, oh man, look at all these kids leaving. They
Speaker 3: never used to do that. Well, they were penalized before.
Speaker 3: And so the change of rules, it's almost the self
Speaker 3: fulfilling prophecy. You give someone an open door, they're going
Speaker 3: to take it. If it's a wall, it's a little
Speaker 3: harder to go through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question. I've asked this of Harvey Mason,
Speaker 2: Uthic and whoever else I could with, with Williams, Pete Limbs,
Speaker 2: all the guys that could have on. How would Loot
Speaker 2: handle today's world? Wow, it would have been tough for him.
Speaker 3: He was a teacher and now as a as a
Speaker 3: basketball coach or even a coach in intercollegiate athletics. We know, yes,
Speaker 3: you still are teaching. You have to be a fundraiser,
Speaker 3: you have to be well, he was a fundraiser for
Speaker 3: for the program, not for individual players.
Speaker 2: Right, there's a different no, no, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 2: and that's you are correct if that's distinguishing. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he could do that. You know, he walked into the
Speaker 2: room and he was like the president coming. You know,
Speaker 2: we went to the White House, and he looked more
Speaker 2: presidential than the.
Speaker 3: President he did, and he could get donations. He was
Speaker 3: the closer for most of our fundraising efforts in the
Speaker 3: Wildcat Club. When he walked in and said we need
Speaker 3: a new basketball practice facility, there were blank checks being
Speaker 3: being signed. But I think just the management of the
Speaker 3: egos he was very good at, and there were some
Speaker 3: that slipped through the cracks and ended up transferring and
Speaker 3: couldn't make it here under the way he liked to
Speaker 3: do things. But when you throw the financial piece in there, Steve,
Speaker 3: it just becomes even more challenging for the coaches nowadays
Speaker 3: to have to manage the entourage that comes with that
Speaker 3: and the expectations. Coach Candorea throughout the phrase mental health
Speaker 3: versus mental performance. I think he's spot on with that.
Speaker 3: Just the pressures that are on the student athletes now
Speaker 3: and the head coaches are responsible for managing that and
Speaker 3: shepherding the players and student athletes through those highs and lows,
Speaker 3: and how to manage the entourage. Now that there's an
Speaker 3: agent now, sure that's legal, So it's a whole new
Speaker 3: ball of axe.
Speaker 2: And he had to deal with that back in the
Speaker 2: day too, because you can unit the handlers trying to
Speaker 2: manipulate blah blah blah. This Henry situation to me, I
Speaker 2: thought Henry was a fantastic player when he first got here.
Speaker 2: I was high high on him. Then this last year
Speaker 2: was fantastic because I could see it. I could see it,
Speaker 2: everyone could see it. And if he had a Henry guy,
Speaker 2: I think he would be unbelievably disappointed because Henry, I've
Speaker 2: coached to become this player and now you're leaving me.
Speaker 2: Right now, you're leaving me after what I've done to
Speaker 2: make you this player. I think you would hate because
Speaker 2: that's what you did.
Speaker 3: It's potentially true, Steve, that there's a lack of loyalty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a certain degree, and this gesture on that list right.
Speaker 3: If it's probably three A if there was one, is
Speaker 3: what you and I grew up with, and how how
Speaker 3: people looked at institutions and looked at people. It's it's
Speaker 3: a far more and not at this is a bad thing.
Speaker 3: It's just it's evolved to a less loyal, more transient situation.
Speaker 3: And so as a student athlete, because I have opportunity,
Speaker 3: because there's financial gain beyond what the wildest dreams of
Speaker 3: many people as we've looked at what players are getting
Speaker 3: potentially paid now to three three and a half million
Speaker 3: dollars for an eight month stopover at a school. And
Speaker 3: I don't think Henry's in that necessary stratosphere, but he's
Speaker 3: definitely done well for himself. How can you, as a
Speaker 3: co coach look at a student athlete and say you
Speaker 3: should be loyal to me and not take that money.
Speaker 3: I think that's almost unfair to the student athlete. But boy,
Speaker 3: that landscape has made it a much different situation for
Speaker 3: a head coach.
Speaker 2: Walks you that six minutes went by like that with
Speaker 2: two quick discussions. We've got to go take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll get some breaking news from Kobe, and then talk
Speaker 2: to John Fieda after that.