WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.960 To determine the marketability of students. And boy, I'll tell 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:04.639 you what, I wouldn't want to be that person on 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:08.599 campus that has to determine the marketability of each individual 4 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:09.439 student athlete. 5 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:10.800 Yeah, no question. 6 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.039 You You are definitely correct when you say I'm glad 7 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.320 I'm watching from the sidelines because it is Yeah, you know, 8 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.559 another thing, obviously, the news go ahead, no, go ahead, 9 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.359 the the wee can over the news over the weekend. 10 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.399 The big news ideas leaving after new nine years. Your 11 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:31.120 thoughts on her leaving and her legacy here, Well. 12 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.920 She left a great legacy, didn't she. And you know 13 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.399 I'm biased. I knew her as a student athlete. 14 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:39.960 I consider one of my own, consider one of my girls. 15 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:45.920 So uh, you know, I'm grateful, right Idea says I'm 16 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.200 one of her mentors, and that is one of the 17 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.520 greatest you know feelings you can have, is to hear that. 18 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.679 So so she's very special. Her family obviously is She's 19 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.439 very special to. 20 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.159 Do you obey, And she put us on the on 21 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.119 the mark again by taking us to the championship game, 22 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:03.000 you know, And. 23 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:05.000 So I wish her all the best. 24 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.319 I also know there's a time and place for everything, 25 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:08.680 and you know. 26 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:11.680 They are both the university and. 27 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.319 Do you have to do what's best for them. 28 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:17.000 So I'm happy for and I'll be rooting her from Afar, 29 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:20.280 and I'll be rooting for the new basketball. 30 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.760 Coach that comes in. And and you know, it's inevitable. 31 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:23.799 Change is inevitable. 32 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.719 And with this crazy, crazy stuff going on in analytics 33 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.599 with the ni L and paying athletes and oh my goodness, 34 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.319 I think we're going to see many changes down the road. 35 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:36.840 I don't even know what to say about that too, 36 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.359 because as far as you know, how do you where 37 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:39.959 do you begin? I mean, there's we were joking, we 38 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:41.719 were joking, is there anybody even in the office that 39 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.519 could even get things rolling? There's no I assume the 40 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:45.840 coaches are going to go with. 41 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:46.920 Her or what? 42 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.400 Yeah, you know, well, how do they even begin this 43 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:50.879 process of putting together a roster? 44 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:56.439 And you know, well, again, athletic directors have lists, they 45 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:57.959 know who they're. 46 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.120 They're interested in. If not, they're not doing their job right. 47 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.840 And so I would imagine something's going to happen really 48 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:07.000 really quick. You know, I know they're on it already. 49 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.639 I got to speak with Desiree just a little bit 50 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:12.400 a couple of days ago, and I know they're already 51 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.719 on it, so I wouldn't be. 52 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:18.280 Surprised, you know, to hear a quick decision on something. 53 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.800 You have to do that right, because you're right, kids 54 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.159 are leaving, they're entering the portal with everybody else is recruiting, 55 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.719 and yeah, I mean it'll it'll get done. 56 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:27.639 It'll get done. 57 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.240 Yeah, they just the fans just need to know. And 58 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.400 you know, how does one second later, who's next? 59 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:33.840 Let's go. 60 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.039 We've got to make sure our tickets are sold. You know, 61 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.039 he's just like, who's next? Blah blah blah. You want 62 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:38.960 to keep the momentum going. 63 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.719 I mean, she's you know, she built, like you said, 64 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.439 she's still something, putting uve on the map for women's hoops. 65 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.400 You know, you're averaging what five six thousand fans a game. 66 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:48.080 You want to keep that rolling. You maybe find a 67 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.360 coach who's going to have similar charisma and ability to 68 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.199 you know, motivate fans to come out and watch, right, And. 69 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:56.560 I know it's hard on the fans because they're hearing 70 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.319 absolutely nothing, so they think nothing's going on, you know, 71 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.159 and I remember being in that position, as we would 72 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.759 you know, do coaching searches, and but you just can't 73 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.520 say anything because you know there's the coach that you 74 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.599 may want to be bringing in has a life at 75 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.120 that school too, and that they don't want their their 76 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.400 athletes and stuff to know all your negotiating stuff. So 77 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.840 it's just a process and it's unfortunate it has to 78 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.840 be so secretive, but it's in the best interest that's 79 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:23.919 everybody involved. 80 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.680 So maybe maybe the last question Rocky talking about Cedric. 81 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.479 So we talked about Lowton that was kind of like 82 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.360 the lynchpin to start things here, and was there another 83 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.919 thing or two that you said, how did he pull 84 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:37.439 this off? 85 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.599 Uh? Well, I don't I can't think of anything specifically. 86 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:53.520 I just I just loved his philosophy again, and I 87 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.280 think if I said how did he pull this off? 88 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.080 It would be the NCAA A job because he wanted it. 89 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.479 But you know, there was a lot of talk back then, 90 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:08.080 you know, already going non traditional, right, and so it 91 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.879 was such a great relief to everybody that that that 92 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:11.520 he was the. 93 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.439 One that got the job. 94 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:16.199 So I think watching him build up to that was 95 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.519 was something special because he is he was so close 96 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.959 with the NCAA. Again, like I said, and legislation really 97 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.480 mattered to him. It used to drive us crazy because 98 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:27.879 he would want to know exactly how it was going 99 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.240 to affect us in the department, how we would it 100 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:31.959 would affect the. 101 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.639 Conference, and how it would affect nationally. And so we were. 102 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.639 We did a lot of behind the scenes work. 103 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:40.560 On that that led to his reputation that ultimately gave 104 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.959 him the job at the NCAA office. 105 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.959 So I think so eighty two eighty three, you were 106 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:47.279 just out of college, is that right? 107 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.279 Well? No, I actually started, as you have made, nineteen 108 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:56.000 seventy nine as a softball coach. Yeah, and then I 109 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.040 became Mary Roby's assistant in nineteen eighty so I had 110 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.439 been there already four years when Cedric came on. 111 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.279 So that was going to be my question in terms 112 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.000 of I'm sure Mary was a huge influence on you. 113 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.399 So and Saidriac number two. 114 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:11.319 Absolutely, Oh my gosh. 115 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.560 Both of them, I feel are completely responsible for bringing us. 116 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.160 You know, we always said back then the. 117 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.399 Modern era, and now we got a. 118 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.040 New modern error, right, But there is no doubt that 119 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:21.879 Mary Roby. 120 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:24.279 And said Dempsey are the two that laid the foundation. 121 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.759 For the modern era of athletics and got us in 122 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.399 the position to grow and be as excellent as we 123 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:30.680 were throughout the nineties. 124 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:34.600 I mean, you know, uh, you know it's. 125 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.040 A combination effort when you're hiring coaches. But you know, 126 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.160 Mary Roby found coach Kendrea, you know, and then Cedric 127 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.879 Dempsey approves it, so you know it's a combined effort. 128 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.720 But you know, same with Frank Bush. 129 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.240 You know, same. You know, we're all all in it 130 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.560 together with the searches. 131 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:57.120 So those two, wow, I mean, we are really grateful 132 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.480 that we had them here at the University bar zone. 133 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.680 And let me tell a big reason why people know 134 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:02.279 that block A. 135 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:07.720 That's right, that's right. Yeah, absolutely, thank you, Rocky. 136 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.519 Thank you Rocky as always, thanks for your patience. 137 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.920 Thank you, thank you, well, thanks, thank you. 138 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:15.839 We're not gonna go to a break. 139 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:17.920 We're gonna stay on until the next break, and then 140 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:21.720 we're gonna listen to Ryan Hansen, who knew Cedric as well. 141 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.720 But we're going to talk a lot about college basketball itself. 142 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.639 In my mind, Dave in the in the games that 143 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.639 I covered, and I covered a few this year and 144 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.480 know Jwan did too. Houston to me was the best 145 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.639 team that I saw in person. Uh, And it's just 146 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.639 because of how they play. You mentioned bullyball. I mentioned 147 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.240 that over the weekend, and it's a good bullyball, not 148 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.959 a bad bullyball. It's like, don't be safe. You have 149 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.199 a TEENPOI leave, don't be safe. And that's just because 150 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:49.480 what happened on Saturday. I mean they did it a lot. 151 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.920 In fact, Jay, because we joked on Friday and Ray 152 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.120 was with us, right and we made a bet he 153 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.720 took Duke and I took Florida, whoever wins, And I said, 154 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.279 I texted him there down by ten or whatever was 155 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.680 at half, and I said, it's exactly where you that's 156 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:05.879 what exactly where they want Duke to be feel a 157 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.319 little comfortable. And then they just poured on in the 158 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.680 second half. They're like a racehorse that likes to come 159 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:11.160 from behind. 160 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:12.519 Yeah, I mean that's what they did. 161 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.680 They you know, they basically waited to the last two 162 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.240 minutes of the game to overtake the leader, to see 163 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.360 the stretch. Yeah, I mean it was incredible. The defense 164 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.600 that they play. We've known about that, you know, all season, 165 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.480 We've watched them do this, and they just did it 166 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:24.959 on the highest level. 167 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.040 Possible. Yeah, the best time. 168 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.680 I was listening to some other sports talk shows coming 169 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:33.800 in and it's like they just realized realized about Houston. 170 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.519 Like, oh, they're they're good. Yeah, they're good. I said, 171 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.040 where you been? 172 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:40.319 They've been good, especially the last couple of years, you know, 173 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.639 and as Arizona's jumped into the Big twelve, they got 174 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:44.519 a closer look. And you know, that was like the 175 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.360 game at McHale this year, at least at the league 176 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.480 game and a Kale that people were worried about and 177 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:50.120 excited about. 178 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.199 Yeah, it's funny. Did you hear his post game interview 179 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:54.560 with whoever? 180 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:54.879 Whoever? 181 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:56.240 Did the interview was just on the court. 182 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.600 Yeah, I'm not sure I did. 183 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.920 He said, we're seventeen and one, so whatever it was 184 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.839 in the conference is it's not like we played in 185 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:04.639 the toy pool. 186 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:05.480 Ooh yes, I did? 187 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:06.079 You know? 188 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.360 And it's right because we talked about Arizona getting confidence 189 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.879 from the league. Yeah, they owned the league and played 190 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:13.000 against all these teams. 191 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.360 I could tell you a little we have time. Yeah, 192 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:17.519 I got a little personal story that I had with 193 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:20.279 him one time years ago. I was really good friends 194 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.439 with this guy named Bud Namik who had been the 195 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.839 voice of Washington State Radio for years and years, and 196 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.800 Bud and I went to high school together. So every 197 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.439 year basically he would come to Tucson and we would 198 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.680 get together either at the game or after the game. 199 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.279 So you know, this has got to be again in 200 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:37.480 the early nineties, I guess, or somewhere around there, and 201 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.080 they come down and you know, Kelvin's the coach, and 202 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:42.320 Bud and I get together at one of the restaurants 203 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.600 after the game. And this is like ten thirty eleven 204 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:47.720 thirty at night, and he says, oh, Kevin will be 205 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.240 down in a minute. So Kelvin just came down from 206 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.879 the hotel and joined us for a couple after game drinks. 207 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:55.159 Was really fun. 208 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.200 Thirty five thirty two years ago, at least thirty years 209 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.159 or so. He's sixty nine now is thirty seven thirty. 210 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:01.720 It was great. 211 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.159 He was hilarious. I mean, how many coaches would do 212 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.519 that even now? For sure, maybe back then they did 213 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:07.120 a little bit more. 214 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:08.720 This is funny because I love the way he walks. 215 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:10.080 I don't know if you noticed the way he walks 216 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.279 kind of like, hey, my stuff, my stuff is good stuff, 217 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.200 you know, like my I think I've just said about 218 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.320 this with my interaction with him. So when he was 219 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:20.519 at Washington State, and if you remember, the citizen had 220 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.279 this plus and minus boxes defense offense blah blah, So I, 221 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.399 you know, check this checked out and in tangibles in 222 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.559 Washington State was in town and I said, Washington State 223 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:32.120 has no intangibles. 224 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.440 They're going to get beat pretty badly. Blah blah blah. 225 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.279 And everyone at that time had one of thirty five straight, 226 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.200 thirty seven straight, whatever it was. So after that, after 227 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.720 the game, he says, who's ribera, We haven't tangibles. We 228 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:45.919 have intangled. We didn't win the game, but we haven't 229 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:46.879 tangible sired. 230 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:48.639 So you saw my story. 231 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.679 So this last time when he was here, I hadn't 232 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.799 seen her talk to him at the final four. We 233 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.519 would talk to a couple of times. But he came 234 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.480 in and I waited till the end, and I followed 235 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.840 him in the hallway after the after the pressure conference, 236 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.559 Kelvin had if your memory Steve River, oh, yeah, the 237 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.480 good old days through thirty some years ago. He says, yeah, 238 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.000 I'm very proud of what you guys have done. I 239 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:10.759 thought you would win it last year. And he says, well, 240 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.720 we'll see, we'll see. But you know, he had his 241 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.879 grandkids on him, chasing him and whatever. 242 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:17.840 Apparently he's got his son lined up to be his successors, 243 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.039 is what they're saying. And you can tell which he 244 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.240 was just like him Kelvin like doesn't sit down, but 245 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.799 then his son is like kneeling down, not in a chair, 246 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.000 you know, kind of you can tell it's him. 247 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.159 Yeah, he's always wearing the same outfit. Really, I always 248 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.000 wearing this. He's gonna have his taller shirt with his 249 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.039 sweats or whatever. Yeah, and that's good, you know. 250 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.559 Like again, it's it's kind of fun to see him 251 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.600 get to this point after all these years, and we 252 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.399 had a chance to watch Arizona beat up on them 253 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.799 so many years in a row. He couldn't get past him. 254 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.480 And he goes to where did he go to Oklahoma next? 255 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.320 And then Indiana or plus the NBA he was he 256 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.720 was also a mixture with some NBA teams. So's he's 257 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.120 he's hung on still at the age of sixty nine, 258 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:57.399 still coaching right. 259 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:57.799 At this level. 260 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.559 He's kind of here's a question this he wins it. 261 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.080 Let's say he wins it, do you go. 262 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.200 Out on right off? 263 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.159 In the sunset you or do you kind of maybe 264 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.279 win a second win and go off and I don't know, 265 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.440 Or when you're seventy three and say, okay, I've happened. 266 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.159 Arielma's going to go through the same thing. True, he's 267 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:14.840 seventy one, I think he is, and he's won twelve. Now, 268 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.120 at what point do you say, Okay, I've had enough 269 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:18.440 and twelve is enough. 270 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.639 I didn't realize have been so long since Theayed one one? 271 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:22.399 Ten years, nine, nine years? 272 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.559 Okay, but still yeah, how many what more do you 273 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:27.200 need to do. 274 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:27.960 To prove yourself? 275 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:28.519 Yeah? 276 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.759 You know, I guess he's you know, he's got that program. 277 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:32.480 It's his thing, and he just don't want to give. 278 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.039 It up just yet. 279 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:33.279 Right. 280 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.240 It's funny because Luke would say, Remember, Luke got criticized 281 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.279 a lot for the first round losses. He hadn't got 282 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:39.799 to the funal four in a while, he hadn't won 283 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.480 a championship, blah blah blah, says Steve, how many big 284 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:44.720 games do you have to win to win the big game? 285 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.799 But how many times you have to prove yourself that 286 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.440 you're a good coach before you've actually become a big 287 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.000 good coach and and then he wons the title and 288 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.159 all the pressure was off, right because he finally did it. 289 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:58.879 Yeah yeah, but these coaches like you know Ariamo, I mean, 290 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:02.399 how many you know what twelve titles? 291 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:08.320 The rings on his fingers ped the ball? Did he doubled? Yeah? 292 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.679 So Rocky just texted me, jeez, I forgot and didn't 293 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:16.080 say that. Seid promoted me over football and basketball. So 294 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.799 she was in charge of football and basketball, and she 295 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:23.399 he promoted Meg Richie and Sue Hillman, so the women 296 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.679 were in charge of the weight room in the training 297 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:26.240 training room. 298 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.480 So Sue, they were both there when my brief time 299 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:31.000 when we did you if a football game is on 300 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.679 Channel nine in the mid eighties, she was there and 301 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.240 Meg were there, So they were they were there, and 302 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:38.320 you're right at that time there probably weren't too many 303 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.360 women in those positions for sure, especially a strength coach. 304 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.080 You know, Meg was, she was great at that, right, 305 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:48.039 and Sue was the trainer, the trainer. Yeah, yeah, no, good, Okay, 306 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.279 So let's do this. We're going to take a break, 307 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.240 hope we come back. If we come back, and we're 308 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.679 going to talk to Rhino about tonight's game, about you 309 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.200 a basketball, the state's in and more. 310 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.960 Breaking down all the knows. This is High on the 311 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.919 Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty eight. 312 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:08.759 Hey, welcome back to wy in the Ball Here on 313 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.960 Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera in today, Dave Silver. 314 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.159 We've got raided control with one. Now we have rhino, 315 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.840 Ryan Hanson from U of a longtime, You've a rhino. 316 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:19.440 How are you. 317 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:21.919 Good? How are you guys? 318 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:22.279 Fine? 319 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.480 Thank you? You just went through. We had Jeffreys on 320 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:29.039 last weekend. You've been with the team for a long time, 321 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:33.440 a little less than Jeffries. But I said it this way. 322 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.000 They struggle a little early, found their footing midway, and 323 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.480 then kind of stepped a little. None of it surprising, 324 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.279 and then they finished strong. I think the people that 325 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.879 were dissuaded fell in love with this team again. 326 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.399 Oh no doubt. It was a journey this year, Steve. 327 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.799 And you've seen these years and they go in different ways. 328 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.360 And many times Arizona has come out on fire in 329 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.360 November and December, playing as if they're the best team 330 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:02.720 in the country, and then do they really ever get better? 331 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.480 Over time? They almost fade in some cases if you 332 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.480 look back at some of the years, this was clearly 333 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.200 a year that was a journey, and it allowed and 334 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.240 maybe showcased I think Tommy Lloyd's flexibility of changing the 335 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.480 roster over to a certain degree in December because he 336 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.080 had to with Mokrebus's injury. He was faced with some 337 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.440 changes that he had to make, but he did, and 338 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.159 he put the team together in such a way that 339 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:31.679 they got better under an extremely challenging schedule and were 340 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.399 truly playing their best basketball at the end of the year. 341 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.519 Like you said, and I mean, if you would have 342 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.879 told me after the UCLA loss, I was in the dumps. 343 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.600 That was a pretty difficult loss back in December. Thirteen 344 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.039 point lead with ten minutes to go, and you give 345 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.879 it away. You go four and five at that point. 346 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.679 And if somebody would have slipped me a piece of 347 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.879 paper that said Arizona is going to be down five 348 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.039 with a minute and a half left in the Sweet 349 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.200 sixteen against Duke, all they need is a stop and 350 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.679 a score one possession game, we all would have taken 351 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.759 it in a heartbeat. And they had exactly that. They 352 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:06.759 just didn't get it done. 353 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:10.919 A lot of good elements too, as you said, a 354 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:14.279 lot of changing parts and stuff like that. Do you 355 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.799 usually don't see that, are you really in college basketball? 356 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.639 Or players like a like a kJ Lewis or Henry 357 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.799 you know, all of a sudden they're coming off the bench, 358 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.879 And I mean things really did kind of get disrupted. 359 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.679 There around New Year's but it's still managed to work out. 360 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.759 Yeah, There's been a number of players that we point 361 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.120 to in regards to they developed or they in their 362 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:38.159 senior year they finally had the opportunity, like a Jason 363 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:42.360 Terry or even a Channing Fry watching him over four years. Well, 364 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.480 we don't get to see that in this era of 365 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.639 college basketball as much anymore. So you look at the 366 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:52.039 in season development of players and Henry Vasar, Wow, what 367 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:57.159 an incredible growth from his freshman year to this past year. 368 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.000 What a I got to say, kind of a dis 369 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.519 appointment that we're not going to see him develop more 370 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.600 next year. That's the one I don't want to say 371 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:09.320 regret of this era of college basketball, because God bless him. 372 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:12.799 If he took advantage of a better situation, all within 373 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:16.320 the rules and the way college basketball is to better himself, 374 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.159 good for him. It's just disappointing for us to not 375 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:21.840 be able to see him even develop more. But watching 376 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.679 him this year, what a player he became. He put 377 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.000 himself in position to become an NBA draft pick before 378 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.559 his college career is over. And the other player that 379 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.960 we all had high hopes for that didn't really come 380 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.919 out of the gates as strong as you would have 381 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.519 hoped it was Carter Bryant. Everybody put him McDonald's all American. 382 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.200 He's going to come in, he's going to be a 383 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.279 lottery pick potentially, and he probably still is on the 384 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.080 fringe of lottery. But boy, watching his journey from where 385 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.039 he had to start in the battle for Atlantis, and 386 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.879 to be frankly honest, didn't belong on the court at points, 387 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.480 and he turned himself into a viable threat, a guy 388 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.160 that on opposing teams scouting reports you had to scout 389 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.880 for Carter Bryant. And that's a guy that we don't 390 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.359 know what his off season decision is, at least as 391 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.559 of earlier today when I was on Twitter. A heck, 392 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.559 he may have made a decision in the last couple 393 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.000 of hours for all we know, in this ever changing 394 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.720 landscape of player mobility and moving around. But Carter Bryant. 395 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.319 What a great evolution in his freshman year. He was 396 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:27.680 exceptional to watch as well. 397 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:28.880 Dave yep And to. 398 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:33.200 Go back to my point of struggling early, finding the 399 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:39.000 footing refining his career was mister Love and people falling 400 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:40.640 in love with him again in the tournament. 401 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.359