WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:05.400 It's nights Eyes, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:08.679 Thank you very much, Madison, as we embark on a 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.880 Tuesday night for our ride all the way until midnight. 4 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.199 My name is Dan Ray, the host of Nightside. As 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.879 Madison indicated, Rob Brooks is back in the control room 6 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.760 at the Big Broadcast House in beautiful Medford, Massachusetts, and 7 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.120 we are set to go with four guests this hour 8 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.559 during what we call the Nightside News Update, and we 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.600 will talk a little bit later on this evening. At 10 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.159 nine o'clock, we will be talking again. We talked last 11 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:40.600 week briefly about the battle at a market basket. We'll 12 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.119 be talking with a Boston Globe columnist who wrote a 13 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:49.079 piece for Trendlines today, Camillo Fonseka. I think, with interesting 14 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.159 conversation with him. And then at ten o'clock we will 15 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:56.759 talk about terror in Colorado, the latest developments on that 16 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:03.759 horrific attack on innocent Jewish people who were simply holding 17 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:08.680 a vigil in memory and in support of those still 18 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:15.760 being held hostage in Gaza by Hamas, and that horrible attack. 19 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.359 We're seeing some video tonight on the Network newscast which 20 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:22.359 show the absolute horror, and we'll get to all of 21 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.840 that that this anti Semitism has to be extinguished, just 22 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:31.280 as the flames of that flamethrower had to be extinguished. 23 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:37.000 Just horrific. Talk about cruelty to people. The suffering needs 24 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.599 to stop. We'll talk about that tonight. First up, we're 25 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:44.239 going to talk about one hundred people who were going 26 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.400 to brave the side of one of Cambridge's biggest buildings 27 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:53.200 in the fight against epilepsy coming up on Flag Day, Saturday, 28 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.560 June fourteenth. With us is the director of Development at 29 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.920 the Epilepsy Foundation of New England, John Josh Drew. This 30 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:08.599 is called Repel Boston. Josh, you have found one hundred 31 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.400 very brave people who are looking to raise funds for 32 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:17.560 a great cause. Hats off to you for setting this up. 33 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.319 I've never heard anything. I've heard like five K walks 34 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:26.479 and even ten K road races, marathons, but repelling down 35 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:28.919 the side of a building, this takes it all. Pardon 36 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.639 the pun to a to New Heights. 37 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.719 Yeah, thanks Dan, and thanks so much for having me 38 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.800 on to talk about it tonight. We're super super excited 39 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:41.599 for this event and the people that are going over 40 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.520 the edge, so to say, for this are just incredibly 41 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.560 brave and we could not be more grateful for their 42 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:48.560 efforts and doing this. 43 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:53.840 Now I understand that the one hundred people have to 44 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.719 in order to have the privilege of going over the edge, 45 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:02.639 they have to raise one thousand dollars of from supporters 46 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.599 and friends. How much would people have to raise not 47 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:13.400 to go over the edge, Josh. 48 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:18.719 Well, to do it safely, Josh, if you would pay more? 49 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:20.520 Would pay more not to go over the edge? No, 50 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.039 it's a great cause, that's for sure. For those who 51 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:28.240 do not know what repelling involves. Uh, and this has 52 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:34.039 become kind of an urban sport. Actually explain to us 53 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.039 how you're going to make sure that these people go 54 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.280 from the tip of top of these buildings safely to 55 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:42.919 the ground and not in one fell swoop. If you 56 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:48.199 get my my thought, how are you going to do this? 57 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:51.080 Well? 58 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.319 As scary as it can sound, it is super safe. 59 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.199 Where very fortunate for both of our partners in this. 60 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.240 One partner is called over the Edge. 61 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:00.000 This is the. 62 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.039 Company that actually comes in and administers the event. They're 63 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:07.599 professionals in repelling in rope safety. And our other is 64 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:09.680 the Hyatt that's actually letting us do this off the 65 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.800 side of their hotel and I'm not sure how they 66 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.080 got that. 67 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.840 Yeah, I don't know that I would use the word 68 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:20.959 the verb administers, because that's too close to like administering 69 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.839 the last rites. Maybe you could say that they run 70 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.079 the program or something like that. You've got to come 71 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:32.160 down the side of the Hyatt. How how the Hyatt 72 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:33.399 on Memorial Drive right? 73 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:35.279 I assume that's right. 74 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.959 The pyramid shape one right on the river. 75 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:39.279 It's the rope crew. 76 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.160 Does a fantastic job. They get you all harnessed up, 77 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:44.959 You take an elevator ride up to the roof and 78 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.040 they coach you all the way through, slowly repelling right 79 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.199 down the side of the hotel. 80 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:55.399 Is this the first time the Epilepsi Foundation has raised 81 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.600 funds this way? Or is this now becoming a quaisi 82 00:04:58.720 --> 00:04:59.680 or a regular event? 83 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.319 So this was actually this will be the second one. 84 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.160 Our first time was last year, and we did it 85 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:11.600 just in a world of constant needing to fundraise and 86 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.160 so many valid causes out there need to get a 87 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.759 little creative and catching the attention of people, we decided 88 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:21.959 to give it a shot. In my goodness, was it 89 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.000 popular last year? 90 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.600 Okay? So let me ask, is registration full or can 91 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:32.360 some people who might be intrigued still participate. Do you 92 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:33.399 have any openings left? 93 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.399 We actually do, and we still have some people signing up. 94 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.399 I just had another person sign up today. We for 95 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.800 sure have limited spots on this, but there are some 96 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:43.720 still available. 97 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:51.839 Okay, So how can people secure again? The donation that 98 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.800 is expected is one thousand dollars, whether it's made by 99 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:59.279 the individual or they're good friends and supporters who want 100 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:04.160 to help them raise that amount of money. How do 101 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:05.920 people get in touch with you? How did they get 102 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.160 in touch? What's the website? Give us? Give us the 103 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.000 best information here if we can try to try to 104 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.639 get a few more people to go over the. 105 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:18.240 Edge, Yeah, absolutely, we would love that. The website is 106 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:23.079 Repelboston dot org. Super easy to get too. All you 107 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.319 have to do is go right on there and click 108 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.959 that you would like to go over the edge. Our 109 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.000 team will take care of it from there. We provide 110 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.040 you all the information you need. We give you some 111 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:36.240 tips and pointers on raising that thousand dollars. But what 112 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.519 we've found is when you say that you're doing such 113 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.000 an astonishing feat, it tends to not be too hard 114 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:43.319 to raise that money. 115 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.079 Okay, and repel Boston for those who are not familiar 116 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.319 with the sport, it's our ap P E L six 117 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.439 letters Repel Boston. Boston also is six letters, so it's 118 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.639 easy to put them together. They make twelve letters Repel 119 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.720 RA ap P E L Boston. And this is something 120 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.439 that when you think about it, it's one thing to 121 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.360 and it's great to, you know, walk into five k 122 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.199 or race or whatever or a ten k, but to 123 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:15.680 say that you repelled down the side of the Hyatt 124 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.240 in Cambridge, that's the one. Don't They have like a 125 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.680 spinning restaurant at the top of that. 126 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:24.079 You know they used to. 127 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:27.639 They don't anymore. They used to. Instead it's been turned 128 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.279 into this gorgeous ballroom and that's actually the floor that 129 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.519 we had to to walk right out onto the roof. 130 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.959 Perfect. That's perfect. That's great. Look anytime we can help 131 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.800 you out. And I just think you have some very 132 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.959 brave souls. Please take care of all of them and 133 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.600 get them down safe and sound and raise a lot 134 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.720 of money on Saturday. This is Saturday, June fourteenth, so 135 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:54.000 we're talking about not this coming Saturday, but the following Saturday. 136 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.040 You got plenty of time and if you'd like to 137 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.920 sign up, for a unique experience, to say the least. 138 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:01.399 Repel Boss dot Org. 139 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:05.720 That's absolutely right. Yeah, we make it a lot of fun. 140 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.360 There's a huge party going on in the courtyard below you. 141 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.439 A djail'll announce you as you take your couple steps 142 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:14.360 right over the edge, and there's absolutely plenty of time 143 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.800 and we would be more than happy to have any newcomers. 144 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:20.759 Okay, well, that sounds great. And no drinking ahead of time. 145 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:25.439 I would hope maybe there's a possibility of a libation afterwards, 146 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:29.040 get I would, I'd have a lot afterwards. 147 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:33.240 That's absolutely correct. There's certainly no drinking ahead of time, 148 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.320 but we do have a beer garden waiting for you 149 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.919 on the bottom, assuming that you are twenty one. 150 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.320 Okay, sounds great. Josh Drew, director of development at the 151 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.600 Epilepsy Foundation, New England. He's in charge of this Repel event. 152 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:47.960 So you're in good hands with Josh Drew. Thanks, Josh, 153 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:49.279 appreciate your time tonight. 154 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.639 Thank you so much. Dan, very welcome. 155 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.840 You're very welcome. We get back when we talk about 156 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:59.679 that horrific anti Semitic attack that I'm hurt at least 157 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:07.279 a people physically, mentally, psychologically hurt thousands, not only in 158 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.840 Bold of Colorado, but across the nation. We'll be talking 159 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:14.000 with Adam Katz, president of the Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism. 160 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.000 Back on Night Side with Adam Katz right after a 161 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.720 couple of quick messages. 162 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:25.720 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 163 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.639 All right, now, this is a serious topic. No joking 164 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.519 around on this one, for sure. Adam Katz is the 165 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:38.399 president of the Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism. Adam, I'm 166 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.480 sorry to be talking to you under these circumstances. What 167 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.039 went on in Bold of Colorado on Sunday was just horrific. 168 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.440 There's just no way to describe it. I've seen I 169 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.440 saw the video tonight of this guy literally walking out 170 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:00.240 with Molotov cocktails and attacking innocent people who were just 171 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:06.960 holding a vigil to keep people remembering the men and 172 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:11.679 women who were still being held hostage by himas Look, 173 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.879 this is not the this is not the only horrific 174 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:21.399 event this last few days. We had the two embassy 175 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:25.879 staff members in Washington, d C. Shot and killed on 176 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.559 the streets of Washington. We had the attack on Governor 177 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.480 Shapiro's home. How do we stop this, Adam? 178 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.480 Yeah, Dan I thank you for having me and for 179 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.159 bringing and continuing to raise attention to this issue. I 180 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.759 wish we were talking under different circumstances, but unfortunately we 181 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.320 are where we are. How do we stop this? It 182 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:51.840 takes a lot, transparently, you know, it's anti Semitism is 183 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.440 the world's oldest hatred, and it's been around for thousands 184 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.960 of years, and it's morphed than it's evolved. What's particularly 185 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:01.600 unsettling is this latest incarnation here in the US and 186 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.440 frankly elsewhere that's leading to these physical acts of violence 187 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:10.080 targeting Jews and Israelis or even people suspected to be 188 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:14.720 Jewish or Israeli. And you know a lot of it 189 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.480 stems from lack of education and lack of information. So 190 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.759 to your question of how do we stop it? A lot, 191 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.559 you know, what we need to do is continue to 192 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.840 make sure that folks have the right information, the right education. 193 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:31.559 They understand what who Jewish people are, what Judaism is, 194 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.120 what Israel is, the history, all of those things. And 195 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:40.559 we also need great leadership, you know, from our elected officials, 196 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:47.519 from university administrators, from everybody that can say declaratively violence 197 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.600 against any ethnicity on the basis of their ethnicity is 198 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:55.000 wrong Jews or any other ethnicity, and making sure that 199 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.559 that there's no ambiguity about that. This is unacceptable. 200 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.879 The things the more I read about this attack, this 201 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:07.600 guy planned this. Apparently he planned it for years, and 202 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:13.000 and he he confessed the authorities out there, so he 203 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.639 basically told him that he planned it, that he disguised 204 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.440 himself as a gardener so he would not attract attention. 205 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.720 And and then he he attacked, in many cases elderly 206 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.559 people who were doing nothing more than holding a vigil. 207 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.919 And I just don't understand how someone can be imbued 208 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.759 with that amount of hatred. I mean, you know, we 209 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:39.399 remember what this kid, this punk Dylan Roof kid with 210 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:46.039 the black parishioners in South Carolina, many having prayed with them, 211 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.799 went in and then and shot and killed nine of them. 212 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:51.919 We know what was done at the Tree of Life 213 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:57.639 Synagogue outside of Pittsburgh. But this guy was in the country, 214 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:04.080 overstayed his visa, tried to get a gun to do 215 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:08.360 to kill more people, couldn't get a gun because he 216 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.960 was no longer he was. I guess I don't know 217 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.600 if he's here as a tourist, if he was here 218 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:19.080 seeking asylum, but he got everything this country had to offer, 219 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.919 and his thank you is to kill or to try 220 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:26.120 to kill innocent Jewish Americans, including an eighty eight year 221 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.279 old woman who's a Holocaust survivor. 222 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.279 Yeah, I mean how. 223 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.840 I don't use the word wicked easily here. I mean, 224 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.960 how wicked, how deranged can his mind and his soul be? 225 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.600 And I can't even fathom, right, I mean, I mean, 226 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:49.200 the facts that you just stated are almost hard to believe. 227 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.960 You know who he targeted and how this hatred was 228 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:59.840 able to develop, and you know, unfortunately that the normal 229 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:06.559 of Jewish hate that has become commonplace across this country 230 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.440 over the past many years. And you know, in this instance, 231 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.720 this was obviously, as you said, a particularly wicked individual 232 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.279 who had a certain level of coldness in his heart 233 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:23.440 that's extreme. Yet we also see much smaller manifestations play 234 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.600 out on a more frequent basis, and you know it's 235 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.200 in our view, it all stems from a lot of 236 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.080 the same things, and so it's really really essential that we, yes, 237 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:36.480 we need to absolutely do everything to prevent this from 238 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.519 happening again, because this is a horrific tragedy, and we 239 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.799 also need to prevent the smaller offenses, so to speak, 240 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.960 because they create a climate in which this is more 241 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:48.679 likely to happen. 242 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.399 I fault the media in many respects here because I 243 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:56.159 don't think enough people in the media are speaking out 244 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.919 as forcefully as they should. When I was a television reporter, 245 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:04.879 I had the opportunity to visit Auschwitz, filed reports from Auschwitz. 246 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.440 I certainly knew the horrors of Auschwitz before I visited there, 247 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.679 but to actually be on that hallowed ground where so 248 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:17.440 many people lost their lives, were killed by you know, 249 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:23.960 people who were themselves deranged. But again, there's no ongoing 250 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:27.519 I don't see public service announcements from the media right 251 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:33.000 on down. I don't. I don't see much leadership. This 252 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.360 is one that that really bothers me. I don't happen 253 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.679 to be Jewish. I'm Roman Catholic, but I learned from 254 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.960 my dad, who was a World War Two veteran, never 255 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:47.440 forget and if it happened then and in other ways 256 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.639 in so many other parts of the world, this has happened. 257 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.559 It's happening here now, and it has to be stopped. 258 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:59.320 I'll be doing a couple of hours on it beginning tonight. 259 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:03.879 At ten o'clock and hopefully getting listeners to call and 260 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:10.919 pledge that they will that they will join with everyone 261 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:14.039 in denouncing it wherever it raises its ugly head of 262 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.759 anti Semitism. 263 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.639 Yeah, Dan, I mean that's I think that's a huge 264 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:25.240 part of of remedying the situation that we find ourselves 265 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.320 in now is and I agree with you that there's 266 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:34.240 not nearly enough clear, unequivocal denouncing of this, whether it's 267 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.360 from the media, the press, elected officials, other people in 268 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:45.120 leadership positions that's in this Uh, there's been this hesitance unfortunately, 269 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.000 you know that that is persistent, that is reinforced. I 270 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.559 think this the undercurrent that we have and we need folks, 271 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.360 we especially need people in you know, with large microphones, 272 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.440 but we need even you know, everybody right down from 273 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.559 the grassrooms to be standing up and saying this is 274 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.759 not this is intolerable. There's no there's no excuse for this, right, 275 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:10.039 There's no reason rationale why this would ever be tolerated. 276 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.799 It's not American. It's antithetical to American values, it's antithetical 277 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.079 to human values. And you know, we strongly believe that 278 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.200 if we can get enough people that can be outspoken 279 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.279 in that regard that will change the tide. I mean 280 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.559 what's scary is what we look at at our foundation 281 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:33.880 is a lot of American sentiment on various topics related 282 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.920 to anti Semitism, and we've seen unfortunately negative movement on 283 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.039 anti Semitic beliefs and Jewish tropes and things like that, 284 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.519 where there are a greater proportion of Americans today that 285 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:51.519 believe certain things than eighteen twenty four months ago. On 286 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.519 the one hand, that's extremely discouraging. On the other hand, 287 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.759 I see the glass half full of Can we can 288 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:01.799 turn that back right with the right approach, with support, 289 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.680 with education, with people committing to this, we can get 290 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.880 back to where it was where this is no longer 291 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.200 happening with anything like the regularity that it. 292 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.079 Is, Adam, If folks would like to get in touch, 293 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.279 either to join, to support, or to get information, how 294 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.519 could folks get in touch with you at the foundation 295 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.960 and combat anti senitism. Is there a website? 296 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:28.279 We have a website fcast dot org. Folks can check 297 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:33.000 that out. We have several different social media handles stand 298 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.480 up to Jewish hate. There's several others. But if they 299 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.720 start with the website and then look for our blue square. 300 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.079 I think that's a really important thing. 301 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:40.599 We are. 302 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.680 The symbol that we have developed and been catalyzing is 303 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.119 a blue square, which is you know, it's in itself 304 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.720 a symbol that just represents standing up to hate, and 305 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.480 it's sending up to Jewish hate, but frankly, it's standing 306 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:57.079 up to hate against any potential persecuted group. And it's 307 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.440 a small symbol. It's just a blue square, but it 308 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.240 is a powerful symbol. It is in your phone. You 309 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:05.880 can you know, post it in a text message, you 310 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:09.000 can post it on Instagram, on social media, and it's 311 00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:12.680 just a way to show solidarity with this that that 312 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.839 that everything that you just described that this is not acceptable, 313 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:19.559 and it tells your Jewish neighbors. It's basically, you know, 314 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:22.440 it's that figurative arm around the shoulder from which right 315 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:24.119 now is what a lot of Jews need. 316 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.599 Absolutely. So the website you gave was f CAST, which 317 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:36.160 I believe exactly Foundation f for Foundation Combat Anti Semitism, 318 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.880 so fcas dot org. 319 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:40.319 You got it. 320 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:41.240 That's exactly all right. 321 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.519 That's all I just want to make sure because we 322 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:44.759 went by that kind of quickly. Adam, thank you very much. 323 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.039 Please keep keep up the fight. This fight has to 324 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:47.359 be one. 325 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.640 Thank you and thank you for your support. Dan. 326 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:51.920 You're very welcome. We get back. We're going to talk 327 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.240 about cancer prevention. This is something you need to hear. 328 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.480 There are some people now who are spreading I don't 329 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:04.119 understand and the information that sunscreen is toxic. Let me 330 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.640 tell you as a as a guy, that sunburns pretty easily. 331 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:13.119 I use talk, I use sunscreen, and I know it's 332 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.720 not toxic. Uh, it's it's preventative. We'll be talking with 333 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:21.359 Professor Timothy Rebick. He's a cancer prevention he teaches professor 334 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:24.039 of cancer prevention at the Data of Farber Cancer Institute. 335 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:24.680 Right after this. 336 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:32.680 Night side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio with. 337 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.839 Me is Professor Timothy Rebick. He's a professor of cancer 338 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.960 prevention at the Data Farber Cancer Institute. Professor Rebick, how 339 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:39.920 are you tonight? Welcome? 340 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.039 Hey, thanks for having me. 341 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.640 This sounds kind of silly, but I guess there are 342 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:50.920 what they called u V truthers on the internet. I'm 343 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:56.279 now claiming sunscreen is toxic. What hold did these folks 344 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:56.839 climb out of? 345 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:02.559 I mean, well, you know, yeah. 346 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:06.839 Go ahead. I just wanted me to be inordinate or inappropriate, but. 347 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:08.839 Not at all. 348 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:09.079 Yeah. 349 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.960 No, I mean I think there's a lot of skepticism 350 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.279 about things we know and take for granted from science, 351 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.759 from good from you know, hardcore scientific knowledge, and you know, 352 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.079 there's a lot of people who don't trust in some 353 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:27.519 of these authorities anymore. And it is not only just 354 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.200 hard to understand for people who follow the science, but 355 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:34.359 also it's dangerous for those who don't listen to what 356 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:35.480 we know is good for you. 357 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.079 So, so where did this start? At some point, someone 358 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.240 must have woke up some morning and said, I don't 359 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:47.160 think this sunscreen is helping prevent cancer. It's causing cancer. 360 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.000 I mean, there must be some guru somewhere or some 361 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.039 nut job in a in a cave who's propagating this 362 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.440 information that is that is patently false. 363 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:00.319 Yeah. 364 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.200 I think that this is like a game of telephone. 365 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:08.240 You know, there's some core kernel of information that's true, 366 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.599 and then over time it gets amplified and twisted and 367 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.079 mutated to the point that it isn't really accurate or 368 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:20.559 real anymore. But the core, the original pieces of information 369 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:26.240 people had was you know, lost, and what's stayed around 370 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.640 is the things that people who don't trust science or 371 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:33.440 don't trust you know, the groups that make these messages 372 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.000 and have fear about what they are, you know, seeing 373 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:40.000 a lot of cancer, They're seeing a lot of people 374 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.480 that have had other kinds of health issues, and they're thinking, well, 375 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:46.960 what's causing this? It must be something in something that 376 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:51.160 I'm being sold, something that I'm being told by an 377 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:52.640 authority I don't respect. 378 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:54.880 Okay, I got to be honest with you. I've heard 379 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:58.359 a lot of crazy stuff over the years. This is 380 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:02.119 the first time that I've heard this particular brand of crazy. 381 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.519 So let's let's set the record straight here. If anybody's 382 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:08.920 going to be out of the sun, and I don't 383 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:13.000 care if you're I can remember as a kid, my 384 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:14.720 parents should put me out there, and I used to 385 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:19.400 get blisters upon blisters for sunburns, and I think they 386 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:23.279 didn't realize that that stuff is dangerous. You know, the 387 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:28.039 sun is your friend to a point? What what what 388 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:30.640 is the message you want to impart tonight to people 389 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:31.880 to set the record straight. 390 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.880 Well, the sudden in terms of skin cancer, which is 391 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:37.920 I think the main thing we are talking about right 392 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:41.400 now is not your friend. Ever, the sunlight is a 393 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.559 known class one car synogen is defined by the International 394 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.000 Agency Research on Cancer. Those are the people that decide 395 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:53.759 these things. It's a clear and established cancer causing factor. 396 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.279 So anything that you do to stay out of that 397 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:00.119 kind of exposure is good for you, and a lot 398 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.759 of ways to do that. You can limit the time 399 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.160 in the sun, you can wear long sleeves or hats, 400 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.799 and you can wear sunscreens or sunblocks. And I think 401 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.119