1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,359 Get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet, 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,359 and again, thank you so much for your support. Better 10 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:35,280 breaking news. This is from Eric Daugherty, the assistant news 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,159 director at Florida Voice News. And I get well, he's 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,759 quoting Politico. I guess I'm just reading a tweet or next, 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,640 President Donald Trump is about to make sorry, I'll start again. 14 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:57,200 President Donald Trump is about to take major action against 15 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:03,479 Act Blue, the Democrat's fundraising arm No. 16 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Don't. 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Trump is set to sign a memorandum targeting foreign contributions 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,040 in American elections. Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly to 19 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:20,280 be involved in the crackdown on Act Blue. Act Blue 20 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,200 is reportedly bracing for this action. 21 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: Now. 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: I've talked about Act Blue, We've covered it for a 23 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:33,519 couple of years now. The way that they fundraise and 24 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:38,400 their accounting methods and such. There is, in my opinion, 25 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:44,599 ample evidence for this as a predicate for this investigation. 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Ample evidence. There are countless stories, spanning years, of people 27 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:56,480 who appear in the ACT Blue database and on the 28 00:01:56,519 --> 00:02:03,640 filings with the Federal Election Commission the FEC, of making 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,080 dozens and dozens of donations for thousands or tens of 30 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,960 thousands of dollars that when they when reporters, those who 31 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,479 are intrepid enough to track people down, they find these 32 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,919 people and they ask them, have you made any donations? 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,879 And they say no, or they say yeah, I made 34 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,000 I made a donation to you know, Joe Biden in 35 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,000 twenty twenty, Like, did you make a did you make 36 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,280 twenty donations through Act Blue over the course of, you know, 37 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,199 the last three years. No, I don't even have that money. 38 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:42,159 I'm on a fixed income. I can't afford that I 39 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:46,479 gave Joe Biden like twenty five dollars, But somehow that 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,960 person's name shows up in the FEC filings as having 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,680 made dozens of donations. There's a guy in western North 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,919 Carolina who has made quite a name for himself in 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,240 his coverage of Helene. His name is Matt van Swoll 44 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:15,319 and he found by searching through the records that he 45 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:21,280 has somehow somebody has made donations in his name, four 46 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:26,400 of them, at least, I think, to candidates in Kansas. 47 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,479 He's like, I've never been to Kansas, I've never made 48 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,039 these donations. How did they get my name? And why 49 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,280 is somebody making donations in my name? And this has 50 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,840 been reported multiple times across multiple states going back years. 51 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: So what is going on? 52 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:50,719 Speaker 2: My personal belief and my speculation on this is and 53 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:54,680 I think it's grounded in a pretty logical approach, which 54 00:03:54,719 --> 00:04:01,199 is that in order to mask large contributions from smaller, 55 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:06,080 you know, fewer donors. You know, I donate ten million 56 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:09,479 dollars and either you know, I'm not allowed to because 57 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,280 of campaign contribution limits, they need to spread that money 58 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:18,519 around among a bunch of different donors when they report 59 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,959 it to the FEC. So the people aren't being defrauded, right, 60 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:26,839 This guy, Matt van swall he didn't make those donations, 61 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,920 and there wasn't money taken out of his bank account 62 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,639 to go to democrats in Kansas. The point is to 63 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:42,319 mask the donation's original source and added benefit, it gives 64 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,319 the illusion that there are all of these small dollar donations, 65 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,680 which is indicative of you know, popular grassroots support. So 66 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,240 they could say, you know, oh, we had this fantastic 67 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:59,120 day of fundraising. We had a billion people make five 68 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,680 dollars donation. It really is a testament to the message 69 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,800 resonating in all of that. Right, So there are two 70 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,480 benefits to doing this kind of a thing. And by 71 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,079 the way, this isn't new, this kind of gaming. 72 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:14,519 Speaker 1: Of the. 73 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:20,639 Speaker 2: Campaign contribution data collection and reporting systems, this is not new. 74 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,480 I covered it sitting in this very seat, well not 75 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:26,560 the seat. They bought a new chair. I don't know, 76 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,680 probably about a decade ago. But back in two thousand 77 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 and eight, Barack Obama running for president the first time, 78 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,920 and remember he was propelled by all of these small 79 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,839 dollar donations and you know, five ten bucks here and there, 80 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:45,120 and they had really they were the first to harness 81 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560 you know, emails and text messages went directly to people, 82 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,160 Hey send us a five dollars donation. Now you see 83 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,319 it everywhere, but that came from the Obama world, and 84 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:58,439 they found that people would be more willing to make 85 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:02,720 smaller donations more or often. But then they also got 86 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:09,360 in trouble because they shut off a and it was 87 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:15,079 a it was an internal security feature inside of the platform, 88 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,800 which was all they had to do was check a 89 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,639 box basically and turn off donations from foreign IP addresses 90 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,399 or foreign residents, foreign governments, whatever like. Only domestic donors 91 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,399 are allowed, and that's the law. But they never checked 92 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:35,800 the box. They never clicked that little box, and so 93 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:38,199 they were pulling in millions of. 94 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,319 Speaker 1: Dollars from overseas. 95 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: This was identified, there was an investigation, but then Obama 96 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,319 won and they said we're going to close that, close 97 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:50,040 the investigation. 98 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,319 Speaker 1: Nothing to see here. This is not new. 99 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Act Blue could have been pulling in millions and millions 100 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,199 of dollars from overseas and then masking the donations the 101 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:08,639 source through this kind of chicanery. So I'm glad that 102 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:11,560 ag Bondi and the DOJ is looking at this because 103 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,319 they should. They absolutely should. And if you think that 104 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,600 they should not, then just say you should get rid 105 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:20,399 of all of the campaign financed laws. 106 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Just get rid of them. 107 00:07:22,199 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: Just allow foreign governments and donors to influence our elections. 108 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,800 That's the whole point of this. What else, Oh, speaking 109 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:38,680 of spending money overseas, the United States has apparently spent 110 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:46,120 over five hundred thousand dollars on hyper targeted YouTube advertisements 111 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:53,360 in order to discourage irregular migration. We have a new 112 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,079 term in the illegal immigration debate, folks. It is now 113 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,959 called irregular migration. Was as shocked as you are. I 114 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,240 was not aware. I did not get an update to 115 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,240 the AP style book that guides journalists on you know, 116 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,480 what pronouns to assign people and whether it's the Gulf 117 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,959 of America or the Gulf of Mexico or whatever. I 118 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,639 was not provided a heads up on this that this 119 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:25,120 change was coming. But according to Wired magazine Wired dot com, 120 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 apparently there's a new term to be used. It's called 121 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,080 irregular migration. So now we have moved away from illegal 122 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:40,600 immigration to irregular migration, all in an effort to make 123 00:08:40,639 --> 00:08:43,919 it sound like it's not really a bad thing, like 124 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,639 it's not illegal and they're just migrants. And I've said 125 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,240 this many times. A migrant, right is somebody who moves 126 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:55,519 state to state. Like that's you're you're moving around, you 127 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,759 intend to return to your home. You got migrant farm workers, 128 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:02,600 for example, they just come over, they'll do some farm work, 129 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,840 and then they go home. Illegal immigration means that you 130 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:09,960 have entered this country illegally and you do not intend 131 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,000 to go back. You're here to stay. So now we're 132 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,200 using this and this is it. You control the language, 133 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,840 you control the debate. So what's with these YouTube ads? 134 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Why is the government spending half a million dollars, which 135 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,919 honestly is not a lot of money when you look 136 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:28,639 at the size of the government's budget. But I'm just kidding. 137 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:31,080 They don't really have a budget, but they are half 138 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 yea half a million dollars. You could buy a lot 139 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,440 of YouTube ads for that. What are they spending these 140 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:42,039 YouTube ads on? And who are they targeting? What's the message? 141 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: I shall explain? 142 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,279 Speaker 2: All all right, if you're listening to this show, you 143 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,840 know I try to keep up with all sorts of 144 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,039 current events, and I know you do too, And you've 145 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,279 probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 146 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:57,039 Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which 147 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,919 is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's 148 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,519 an app and it's a website and it combines news 149 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,480 from around the world in one place, so you can 150 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,879 compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out 151 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:13,519 at check dot ground, dot news, slash Pete. 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I use 160 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:41,919 the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 161 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,879 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 162 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:48,080 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 163 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,960 more transparent. The United States has spent more than five 164 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:57,639 hundred thousand dollars on at least thirty YouTube ads this month. 165 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,159 That's not really the ads they're spending it, they're buying 166 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,799 ad time. Okay, I'm sure there was some production value, 167 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:07,320 you know, associated with the ed then looked like they 168 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,799 actually required a lot of money to do. 169 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: But the five hundred k. 170 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:19,799 Speaker 2: Is is to buy advertising on YouTube. Okay, And the ads, 171 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:28,159 according to Wired dot com quote threaten undocumented migrants with 172 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,159 deportation and a ban on re entry. So, in other words, 173 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,480 the law they're telling the ads are telling illegal aliens 174 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,519 that are wanting to come to America that you will 175 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,559 be deported and then you will be banned from re entering. 176 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:49,279 So if you ever want to re enter legally and 177 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,840 try to establish residency and get naturalized as a US citizen, 178 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,879 it's best that you leave and then come back in 179 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,960 the right way. Otherwise, if we can, we're sending you 180 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,360 back and you will not be allowed to come back 181 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:12,159 in right. This is obviously outrageous the. 182 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,159 Speaker 1: How dare you tell us your law? 183 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: The campaign is led by Homeland Security Secretary Christy no 184 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:24,279 and it includes messages that criminalize migrants. This is wired 185 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:30,159 dot com. Ostensibly, Wired is like a tech website, right, 186 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,639 they talk about like computers and like tech related stuff, 187 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 which is weird because like a lot of stuff is 188 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:37,840 wireless now. 189 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: So whatever. 190 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: Their framing of it is that the ads are criminalizing 191 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:51,440 migrants and promoting self deportation through their app. Department of 192 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Homeland Security now that it's under Trump's control, right, they 193 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,720 changed the app and they tell people on the app 194 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:01,440 that the people use to I'm here illegally and claim 195 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,480 their BS parole. Now the app is saying, hey, you 196 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,799 probably want to go home and come back the right way, 197 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,919 because we got your information. I went over this the 198 00:13:12,919 --> 00:13:17,600 similarities to the Weimar Republic where they created the gun 199 00:13:17,639 --> 00:13:21,279 registry lists in order to prevent those you know, Nazis 200 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,440 from owning guns. We want to know who has all 201 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,879 the guns. And then of course they get ousted from power, 202 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:29,240 the Nazis take over. Now the Nazis have the list, 203 00:13:29,759 --> 00:13:31,840 and that's kind of what happened with the CBP app. 204 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're Nazis. 205 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:36,639 Speaker 2: I'm saying that you made this app, you made people 206 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,240 sign up for it under the premise that this is 207 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:42,559 their ticket in, and then you lost power. And now 208 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,639 the other team comes in and they're like, oh, thank 209 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:48,720 you very much. Everybody with this app, go home. According 210 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,120 to data from the Google Ads Transparency Center, to which 211 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,639 Wired had access, the US government has allocated five hundred 212 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,960 and ninety four six hundred dollars almost six hundred K 213 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:08,879 to a digital advertising campaign to deter irregular migration new 214 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:15,960 term right, irregular migration. So I guess, so, what's regular migration? 215 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,399 Is regular migration? Legal immigration? Is that the same thing? 216 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:25,639 Or are you guys gonna twist and corrupt that definition too? 217 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:30,279 Or is it regular just the volume, Like it's irregular, 218 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:34,480 unusual that we saw millions and millions of people under 219 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:37,279 the Biden administration come across the border illegally, Like that's 220 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,519 not normal, so that would make it irregular. What the 221 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:45,720 funds are distributed across thirty different active ads with a 222 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:53,000 marked geographic focus. They are targeting California, Texas, and Florida. 223 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: I wonder why why did they choose those markets? Interesting? 224 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: Are there like law populations or something of illegal aliens 225 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:03,320 that are in these states? 226 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Answer? Yes. 227 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: Other states with high migrant populations, such as Illinois and 228 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:13,919 New York were also high priorities. In contrast, some border 229 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,960 regions received considerably less. Arizona, for example, saw just a 230 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,440 twenty thousand dollars add buy. This spending pattern is evidence, 231 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:26,519 they say, of a strategy focused on established migrant communities 232 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,679 rather than border areas. So why would that be? I 233 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,440 think this is actually quite smart. You know why, because 234 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,159 the people who are in these quote migrant communities in 235 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,320 these states, they this may surprise you, they know how 236 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,159 to dial a phone, and they know how to speak 237 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,000 to their relatives and friends back in their home countries, 238 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:56,720 and so they then will convey the messaging to those 239 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,360 other countries. 240 00:15:57,879 --> 00:15:58,639 Speaker 1: See how that works. 241 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: It's word of mouth, you know, kind of like the 242 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,360 word of mouth system that was used to encourage people 243 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,720 to come. 244 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,679 Speaker 1: Right, that's how that happened. 245 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: Messaging went out, TV ads were we're running, but mainly 246 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:18,200 you know, social media apps and text messaging and phone calls, 247 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,519 word of mouth, and everybody came to understand this is 248 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,440 how you do it. 249 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,399 Speaker 1: This is how you get across the border. 250 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:26,799 Speaker 2: And if you get there, they're going to give you 251 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:29,799 debit cards and phones and everything else. It's oh, it's great. 252 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:32,960 Streets are paved with cheese, you know, or gold if 253 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,039 you will. This distribution reflects an attempt to maximize the 254 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,399 psychological and social impact of the message in areas where 255 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:48,360 the migrant population is more vulnerable to misinformation. Why they're 256 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,759 more vulnerable to misinformation. There isn't anything that's misinformation in 257 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:55,600 these ads. What would that have to do with They're 258 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:59,879 literally telling you the correct information. The administration is telling 259 00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:04,240 you you this is the law. We are enforcing the law, 260 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:09,000 and if you want to avoid the punishments, then here's 261 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:09,680 how you do that. 262 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,759 Speaker 1: I find it to be helpful. 263 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: Right at like it's sort of like dropping leaflets before you, 264 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,720 you know, do a strike on the target. Hey, civilians, 265 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,839 get out of the area. The US government announced this 266 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,440 campaign back in February. As a matter of fact, the goal, 267 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:34,640 according to Wired dot com, the goal is to deter 268 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:41,880 irregular migration by combining advanced targeting technology and confrontational language. 269 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,359 They said it so meanly. That's the problem, you see. 270 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,640 Mean here's a great idea. 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Call or 289 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:55,640 text eight two eight three six seven seventy sixty eight 290 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,079 or check out all there is to offer at Cabins 291 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:01,680 Offashville dot com and make memory that'll last a lifetime. 292 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,599 Let's chat with Kirk. Hello, Kirk, welcome to the program. 293 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:07,319 Speaker 1: How are you hey? 294 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: Doing great? Thanks for taking a cally, sir. I was 295 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,440 curious about in their lending or something like this for 296 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,680 migrant workers where they can get a limited green card 297 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:17,119 or something. 298 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, they can get their like a work visa. Yeah, 299 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,599 and then there's like a farm worker program. 300 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: There were all sorts of carve outs for migrant labor. 302 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: So why are they using this unusual migrant. 303 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,559 Speaker 1: Or whatever irregular migration. 304 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: Wired dot com has apparently adopted this as the term 305 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,599 rather than illegal immigration. 306 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:43,839 Speaker 1: For some reason. Yeah, yeah, I cannot explain it. They 307 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:45,400 do not. They don't explain it. 308 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:47,559 Speaker 2: They just use it as if that's the term that 309 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:49,839 we should all understand to be the term that we've 310 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,440 all not used for now or something until now. 311 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 312 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: I'll just making sure I was right about that. I 313 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,599 thought I heard about it, and I'm like, well, there's 314 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,279 their way to get in and work legally and make 315 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:01,720 a living. 316 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah, you are correct, Kirk. I appreciate the 317 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:09,000 call buddy problem, all right, thanks. Yeah, it's an attempt 318 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,480 to control the narrative. It's an attempt to make you 319 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:15,160 feel a certain way about the topic by the words 320 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,759 that are used to describe the topic, right, That's why 321 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:25,559 they do this. So these ads that Department of Homeland 322 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:30,720 Security has been putting on TV in Mexico during soccer 323 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:37,559 games and primetime shows, they've also been putting into YouTube 324 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,799 content as well. In one of the messages, Christy Nome warns, quote, 325 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,079 if you are considering coming to the United States illegally, 326 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,599 don't even think about it. Let me be clear, if 327 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680 you come to our country and violate our laws, we 328 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:58,960 will hunt you down. Criminals are not welcome. Okay, what's 329 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,160 the problem with that. She's not saying everybody that comes 330 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,039 in is committing crimes. She's saying, don't come. If you 331 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,640 come and commit crimes, we are going to hunt you down. 332 00:21:12,319 --> 00:21:14,839 You violate our laws. We will find you and we 333 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,960 will send you back. This initiative is part of a 334 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,720 broader context of state and federal campaigns aimed at discouraging immigration, 335 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:27,400 ranging from public communication strategies such as billboards and informational messages, 336 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,200 to more aggressive measures such as the installation of barbed 337 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,240 wire and deportation operations. 338 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:35,839 Speaker 1: How dare you like? 339 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: So I get the sense that the author of this piece, 340 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Anna Lagos, I suspect she's an open borders person. What like, 341 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,920 we're not allowed to have a deportation operation, We're not 342 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,359 allowed to have barbed wire along vulnerable parts of the border. 343 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,960 In response to the ad by the President of Mexico, 344 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:04,039 Claudia Shinebaum is pushing for legal reform to ban foreign 345 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:10,319 propaganda in local media, calling the spots a violation of sovereignty. 346 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:13,400 I don't think it's a violation of your sovereignty. They 347 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:19,480 bought some ads on YouTube. The Mexican authorities have labeled 348 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:29,200 the ads quote discriminatory, Yeah, okay, socialists, Yeah, Okay, they're discriminatory. No, 349 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,160 it's a public service announcement. They're trying to they're trying 350 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,880 to keep your citizens safe, trying to prevent them from 351 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,680 making a dangerous and arduous journey across the desert and 352 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:47,880 into America, only to be caught and sent home again. Tuesday, 353 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,240 Shinbaum announced a reform to the federal telecommunications law to 354 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:56,759 prohibit foreign governments from buying advertising space for political or 355 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:01,039 ideological purposes. I don't think it's either of them. I 356 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:05,599 think again, it is a public awareness campaign. The spots 357 00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:11,000 star Christy Nome. They link irregular migration with violent crimes, 358 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:14,759 she says, quote pedophiles, rapists, murderers. These are just a 359 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:21,960 few of the illegal aliens we have deported. Okay, right, yeah, 360 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:25,440 so that like, that's not that's not propaganda. 361 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,759 Speaker 1: That's true. 362 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,799 Speaker 2: What are they allowed to promote tourism culture but not 363 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,680 discriminatory propaganda? She said, and that Christy Nom's messages are 364 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,799 an attempt at interference and a risk to the dignity 365 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,200 of migrants. My goodness, she's just she's hitting all the 366 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:49,039 high notes here. 367 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: My goodness was. 368 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: She educated one of our Ivy League schools, the Shinbaum Presidente. 369 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,119 The DHS strategy depends not only on aggressive messaging, but 370 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,200 also on technology tools such as the CBP one app, 371 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:07,240 which which used to help migrants prepare for entry into 372 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:12,000 the United States illegally and now allows them to schedule 373 00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:17,039 appointments for voluntary deportation or to apply for asylum. However, 374 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:21,519 human rights organizations claim that the app, promoted in advertisements 375 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:30,000 lacks transparent guarantees and exposes users to expedited deportations. Yes, 376 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,720 that is what the app would be used to do. Absolutely, Again, 377 00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:38,640 this is what happens when you violate the law like 378 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Biden did and Alejandro Majorcis did, when they violate the 379 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:49,599 law to encourage and abet the illegal immigration, and then 380 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,440 somebody else takes over who says, no, we are going 381 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400 to follow the law. You have now given them these 382 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,519 identification tools. Now, the problem may be a little bit 383 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:05,119 tougher for Mexico to solve because you know Facebook and 384 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,640 YouTube and so how are you going to stop how 385 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,039 are you going to stop Mexican nationals or members of 386 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:16,759 the migrant community who are living in America? How are 387 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,359 you going to stop them from seeing the ads when 388 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,400 they're dialing up Facebook, Instagram, YouTube whatever in America. 389 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,079 Speaker 1: Talk about sovereignty, all right. I mentioned our sheriff. 390 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,279 Speaker 2: Apparently he had a run in with Ice out at 391 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,279 the jail yesterday or day before. 392 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: They put out a press statement. 393 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: I've got it, although I had to scroll past like 394 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,480 the first ninety percent of the news release because it's 395 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,599 his freaking picture on like the top third of the 396 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,279 press release. 397 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,279 Speaker 1: This is what a raging narcissist. 398 00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: Would do the press release most like, well, the top third, 399 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,599 the top third of this of this page is him, 400 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,559 his mug, his face standing there in the uniform, and 401 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:10,200 his huge name Gary not by fall McFadden right there 402 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,680 at the top, like look at me, look at me. 403 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,319 Speaker 1: I'm the sheriff. 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I've never seen another 433 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,079 elected official do this, by the way, this kind of 434 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,119 massive glamour shot on every press release that you issue, 435 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,680 And so the font the type on the image is 436 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,759 really really small because his face takes up so much 437 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:14,359 of the page. 438 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,039 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. 439 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:16,599 Speaker 2: So I got to like get real close to the 440 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,559 screen here so I can try to read the harrowing 441 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,400 details of his encounter with ICE. 442 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I would like to address. 443 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: An incident involving Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE that took 444 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000 place at the Mecklenburg County Courthouse on Wednesday, April twenty third, 445 00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:40,119 around noon, A concerned citizen alerted me that there were 446 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,319 three individuals who were not clearly identified as ICE agents 447 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:49,799 or law enforcement handcuffing a man and escorting him to 448 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:55,359 an unmarked vehicle. Upon arriving at the scene, I personally 449 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:05,319 witnessed the encounter and immediately how close by were you? 450 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,640 You happened to be there at the precise moment that 451 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,839 the member of the public saw this encounter. Somehow alerted you, 452 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,559 or alerted the sheriff's office, and then the sheriff's office 453 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,359 alerted you, like the front desk or something alerted you, 454 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,680 and then you came racing out, or you just happened 455 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,480 to be there on your lunch break or something, or 456 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:24,759 were you there with some I don't know. 457 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: I got questions. 458 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Upon arriving at the scene, I personally witnessed the encounter 459 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,440 and immediately initiated a conversation with ICE officials. The discussion 460 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:43,759 focused on the need for clear communication to minimize disruption. 461 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,599 Oh my god, go pound sand you raging hypocrite. Oh 462 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,359 look at me, I'm Gary mcfatten. I'm trying to work 463 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,599 with ICE. Look at how cooperative I am. I'm the 464 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:02,119 hero and kind of the victim. This guy's got such 465 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,920 a pronounced case of first person syndrome. We are all 466 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,039 just in his little movie of his life, you know. 467 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Anyway back to his description, the discussion focused on the 468 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,559 need for clear communication to minimize disruptions of court proceedings 469 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,480 and ensure the safety of everyone involved. Yeah, that's why 470 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,119 ICE wants you to tell them when you're turning people loose, 471 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:33,079 so they can come get them inside your jail. That's 472 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,920 why they're doing that, and you refuse to give them 473 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,359 the call. Gary, you're refusing to call them. You don't 474 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,759 believe deportations will solve the illegal immigration problem. You ran 475 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:50,559 on a platform of eliminating two eighty seven. G don't 476 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:58,799 whiz on my boots and tell me it's raining. He continues, 477 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,599 This includes it's undocumented individuals, courthouse staff, guests, and the 478 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,720 ICE agents themselves. What about the residents, Gary, what about 479 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:12,599 the residents? Where's your concern for the residents aka inmates? 480 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,759 But he calls them residents, but he left them out 481 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,799 of the press release for some reason. He says, I 482 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,839 even provided the ICE agents my personal cell number. I'm 483 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,279 such a hero in an effort to strengthen collaboration. This 484 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:31,319 is something I've been asking for and talking about all along. 485 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: Dude. They told you what they need from you. 486 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:41,319 Speaker 2: They asked you to call them before you release somebody 487 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,440 with a detainer. That's what they have asked you to do, 488 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:49,759 and you won't do it. You want them to call 489 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,359 you when they don't know someone's about to be released. 490 00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,039 Really does that make sense any sense at all? 491 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,079 Speaker 1: Um? 492 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: See again, this type is so small because his face 493 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:02,880 is so big. 494 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Let me see something here. 495 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: It is something I've been asking for and talking about 496 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,599 all along. The situation that occurred on Wednesday, April twenty 497 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,720 third is a great example of why it's so crucial 498 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,960 Ice and the Meckelberg County Sheriff's Office work together. Yeah, 499 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 welcome to the party, pal. While the Meckelberg County Sheriff's 500 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Office fully respects and recognizes the authority of Ice to 501 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,119 carry out its duties, it is also the responsibility of 502 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,799 the Sheriff's office to make certain that all law enforcement 503 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:35,759 actions conducted on courthouse property property are done safely, transparently, 504 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:40,799 and in coordination with our office. Actually, no, because it 505 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,119 sounds like this was outside. It sounds like this may 506 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,119 have been outside. 507 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 508 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't say, was it inside the building? Was Ice 509 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,279 hanging out inside the courthouse? Were they at the jail 510 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,720 hanging out down one of the hallways on the before 511 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,680 people can leave the building. To that end, I am 512 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:05,200 working to develop a formal directive outlining policies and procedures 513 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,720 for any future apprehensions on courthouse grounds. So he keeps 514 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,279 saying on courthouse grounds, and this is leading me to 515 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:14,440 believe that this occurred outside the building because he doesn't 516 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,440 tell the ICE people when he's releasing them, so it 517 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,559 sounds like ICE set up a sting on the perimeter 518 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,759 and they were waiting for somebody to come out of 519 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:27,039 the building, and as soon as they got out of 520 00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:29,079 the building, they went over and took them into custody. 521 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960 I described I saw one of this. It happened literally 522 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,319 in front of my house about a month ago. We're 523 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,839 just standing out there talking to our neighbors, and they 524 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,079 had set up a sting and they caught some guy, 525 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,160 threw him in the car and took off, and that 526 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,240 was an ICE operation. So he's making policies and procedures. 527 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,960 I am committed to creating a safer and more coordinated 528 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,640 approach to these situations moving forward. There's already a model 529 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,359 for it, Gary, there's already a model. All you have 530 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400 to do is give McCall just call them when you 531 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,359 know that one of your residents is going to be released. 532 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,039 They've bonded out. You are aware of this. Your office 533 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,880 should call ICE and say, Hey, this guy that you 534 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,320 guys put a detainer on, we're about to turn him loose. 535 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,599 He's being processed for removal right now on behalf of 536 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,960 Meckelberg County Sheriff's Office. I'd like to thank the public 537 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,519 for their vigilance and to sure the community that their 538 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:26,119 safety and rights remain a top priority. Yet you can't 539 00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:31,920 stop Ice from taking people into custody. I guess what 540 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,880 he's wanting is for is for Ice. He's I wonder well. 541 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,599 His policies and procedures include like you got to give 542 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,159 the You got to give the target a running start. 543 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,039 Is that what the idea is here? You got to 544 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,760 get let him get out of the building, and you 545 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960 got to give him like give him one hundred yards, 546 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,480 let them start running away, make it more difficult for 547 00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:56,079 Ice to get him. Is that the idea. I don't 548 00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:57,760 have much time for this, but let's see, I got 549 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:05,519 one minute, Tony, welcome to the show to and you're yeah, 550 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:07,880 you're not ready for me, So you're going to go 551 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,000 back on hold. If you want to stick around, you 552 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,519 are free to stick around through the news. 553 00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: But I didn't have enough time for. 554 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: Him anyway, But I was going to let him make 555 00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:21,760 his comment. But now we'll have to re rack the story. 556 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,000 If Tony hangs on, I will take his call after 557 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,679 the news. But it sounds like what McFadden wants is 558 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,800 to hamstring these ICE operations that occur outside the jail, 559 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,440 because he's already hamstrung their operations inside the jail. I've 560 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,960 gone over the details of this for what three years? 561 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: Four years. 562 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: Gary McFadden ran on a platform of not cooperating with ICE. 563 00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:54,000 He scrapped the two eighty seven G program that allowed 564 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:59,920 ICE to identify to deputize basically Sheriff's office employees deputies 565 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:02,679 in the jail. Give them access to the systems, they 566 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,360 could identify the people in the jail, they could do 567 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,840 the detainers, and then they could then come and take 568 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,159 custody of these people who are to be deported. And 569 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,960 McFadden scraped the program state and then he refused to cooperate. 570 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,079 State legislature came in said you got to cooperate, and 571 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,960 one of the detainer paragraphs says call ICE, here are 572 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,280 the phone numbers, call us before you release them. And 573 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,239 he says, well, I don't have to do that because 574 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,480 that's not the law, it's a request. So he refuses 575 00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:39,079 to do it. That's the solution, Just cooperate, Just follow 576 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:39,840 their procedures. 577 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,559 Speaker 1: All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you 578 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:44,599 so much for listening. 579 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: I could not do the show without your support and 580 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,599 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 581 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,039 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 582 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,800 them you heard it here. You can also become a 583 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,480 patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, 584 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,280 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 585 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:09,320 while I'm gone. Hmm.