Speaker 1: Yo, What is up?
Speaker 2: Boys?
Speaker 1: How's it going?
Speaker 3: And welcome back to another episode of the Rant Cafe
Anime podcast. Today we're talking about the One Piece Live
Action with the Anime Dude and anime Recon. I already
did a podcast for the one Piece version talking about
the one Piece Live Action with Teking one on one
and Poseidon Mythos, so be sure to check out that
one as well.
Speaker 1: Let's jump right into it. What up boys, what dreamer?
Speaker 3: It's yeah, Welcome back, Recon. It's always interesting to talk
one Piece with Recon, so just right away. General thoughts, Recon,
what what do you think of the One Piece Live
Action Season two?
Speaker 4: It was fine, to be honest, surprisingly very fine.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it very fine.
Speaker 3: It's crazy you are now very further in the live
action than you got in the anime, which is sad. Yeah, okay,
Recon sounds happy to be back. Fine is a little crazy.
I think it's pretty pretty stinking good. It has its issues,
but for the most part, I think it's very good.
But then again, I'm a one piece Glazer Jordan. General
thoughts on the One Piece Live Action Season two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I thought it was pretty okay.
Speaker 1: Fucking guys.
Speaker 2: You know, I do think it's probably the best like
Western anime adaptation that I've seen, so like it's up there,
but like the competition isn't like the the highest right,
So it's good, it's good. I have my critiques I
could maybe give it, but and I was trying to
focus on those to where we're not only saying positive things.
But overall I did like it.
Speaker 1: It's nice. Nice. See. I don't have that many critiques,
to be honest.
Speaker 3: It's more so that like when you turn an anime
or manga into a live action, especially something as silly
and over the top as one piece, it's like you
have two choices. Either you make it more serious and
then it's not one piece, or you make it or
try and make it as as similar to the heart
of one piece as you can, and by doing so,
it's going to be cringing and awkward. And it definitely
comes off as cringe, cringe and awkward at times, because
at the end of the day, it's trying to stay faithful.
Speaker 1: To a cartoon.
Speaker 3: But I would rather it be a little bit awkward
than not faithful, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, I definitely don't want it to ever
sound like I'm understanding how difficult adapting you know, a
cartoon as goofy as One Piece can be, right, So like,
I totally get that.
Speaker 3: People are going to be mad at that we're even
calling in a cartoon an anime, guys, an anime.
Speaker 2: I watched it on four Kids originally, Okay, I didn't
know the difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's jump into episode one. Anything you
guys really really liked about episode of one, it's when
they went to Logtown and we got to see Bartolomeo
and Smoker and the execution and the little courtroom scene
and a bunch of other little little moments here and there,
Zoro swords scene. Anything you guys really liked. Anything you
guys didn't like, let me know.
Speaker 4: I'll let you start with this one. Jordan, you're the
one piece connoisseur.
Speaker 2: I do love me some one piece. So so lowdown
was interesting, exaid one of the things I did like
a lot, or I do like a lot about the
live action thus far. And you know, maybe it's just
a stylistic choice. People will have their preference, but I
like that they're taking this opportunity now that like one
Piece has thousands of chapters out to turn writing decisions
from later on into foreshadowing, so you know, we get
characters like Bartolomeo and and things like that popping up
earlier on, which I enjoyed. And then I think Buggy
is probably my favorite character overall in the live action.
I love what they did with his character, So every
scene where he's present is just gold. Right, So overall,
I like Lowdown quite a bit, and those were like
the biggest highlights for me.
Speaker 1: Ricon overall.
Speaker 4: Honestly, Longton was pretty cool. I like how Loofy was
just so like excited to see where the legend is
born of the One Piece. With this heino the execution
platform where gold Gold Roger was defeated, and how everybody
is just set set sale to go to One Piece
reminds me of Season one, episode one. It was awesome,
But uh, it was cool to see Buggy again. Definitely
a huge highlight of a character.
Speaker 5: Just wish he had more screen time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, such a short time, even though I will know
he'll be back.
Speaker 1: So I agree with you boys Buggy.
Speaker 3: Buggy's actor is so talented that whenever he's on screen,
he just carries the series or carries that scene. He
was more prevalent in season one. In season two we
get that one episode with him, and then unfortunately he's
not He's not really used gone. He's gone, but which
makes which makes sense because they're following the story and
he's not there in Drum Island or in Whiskey Peek,
et cetera. But I agree Jordan, he's always a highlight.
I also agree with what Jordan said about Bartolomeo because
we all know that Bartow is a big straw hat fanboy,
just like us, and it's cool to get to see
how he became a fanboy because we oh in retrospect
now that he was there on Lockdown, even though he
wasn't in the anime and the mom that at the time.
Later on, hundreds and hundreds of chapters later, or hundreds
of hundreds of episodes later, we do know that he
was there. So by putting that in, it kind of
just adds to the series. And I think Oda's probably saying,
you could put Bartolomeo early, you could put Sabo early.
You could like hint at things here and there, the
will of Deed, so on and so forth, because we
know that those are things that happen later on, and
you might as well tease it. I think, Sabo, it's
kind of just like they know that we're never gonna
get to it in the live action.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: We come exactly, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: There was.
Speaker 1: Like there was like a four second.
Speaker 3: There was like a four second little guy walks out
of a door and we're all just like, oh my god,
it's sobo where It's like, I feel like they just
put that like.
Speaker 1: An easter egg. Remember, yeah, you wouldn't know, you've only
watched the carlong.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've got in a flashback with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but regardless, it's like that's just an easter heg
for the for the for the manga fans, and I
don't think they'll ever get the dress Rosa for the
live action, so I might as well throw them.
Speaker 2: You never know, they could go through all the way
through it.
Speaker 3: They forget if it gets enough popularity. But from what
I hear, just because of like they're gonna age, they're
gonna get old. I think their goals to get to
either end of his lobby or Marine Ford from what
I heard.
Speaker 4: Okay, can I just say like, I am such a
fan of just the overall power system that one piece
has with the with the double fruits, Like it's just
so unique. You've got the gum gum fru, You've got
the chop chopped fruit, You've got the munch munch frew,
you got the slip slip through like.
Speaker 1: These are what the is the chop chop fruit? Oh,
Buggy Buggies.
Speaker 3: Okay, I because he always he always makes for the chopper,
he always makes for the choppers.
Speaker 1: I thought it was the chop chop power name.
Speaker 5: I don't even know, no remember what was what was
his Devil Fruits.
Speaker 1: I guess Buggies is just chop shop for Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know. He did say like when he uses
power chop chop something. I don't know, but I really
like the idea of the of the fruit power system
is pretty unique. And seeing Alvida again, she was pretty
hot this time around.
Speaker 3: I have a bit of a hot take which I
did see on the other podcast. I think Alvida the actor,
what a phenomenal job like losing all the weight wow
and getting herself into shape wow for the Devil Fruits transformation. However,
hot take it would have been better if they've had
two different actors, because in the manga. In the manga,
it's genuinely a different person, like Alvida to Alvida. It's
the most insane transformation that a human can't do it.
Speaker 4: I did see the pictures. I did see the pictures.
A huge difference.
Speaker 2: Nobody recognized her. Yeah that's the me, which it would
have made sense regardless props of her. It is tough
to I can lose that much. So either way didn't
bother me too much. But now that's one of those
changes I can definitely get behind if they had done that.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Smoker? And how do you
feel about Dragon?
Speaker 4: Who the fuck is Dragon?
Speaker 1: Don't worry about Ricon Jordan?
Speaker 5: J'ah, come on, man, tell me old dragons.
Speaker 2: We actually got a little bit more time with Dragon,
I think, in uh in the live action than he.
Speaker 3: It was the guy who saved Loofy. Was the guy
who saved Loofy from Smoker.
Speaker 5: Oh, that hooded guy.
Speaker 2: That mysterious guy, right, Mike Tyson looking son of a gun?
So okay, yeah so he uh yeah, I liked that
we got him. We still haven't gotten a lot on him.
We see him mentioned again later on in the Revelry,
uh like after the Drum Island arc towards the very
end of the season, right, so a lot of things
packed in there, you love to see it. And then Smoker,
I think the guy did a pretty good job playing him.
Speaker 4: Overall, Yeah, bad as badass actor.
Speaker 2: They included the ice cream scene, which I love to see.
I think a lot of the the characters are going
to be a little bit different from the you know,
anime and manga compared to the live action, and overall,
it doesn't bother me too much as long as, like
the core of the character is there. So I do
have one nitpick with a character in this arc, but
I didn't really have it in the moment. It was
more so like as the series went on, I was
kind of just thinking about it, right, So Tashigi would
be the one I would maybe have like a little
bit of a criticism with, but not necessarily in like
a really bad way. It was more like a writing way.
Speaker 1: What's writing criticism?
Speaker 2: So like with Western writing and adaptations and whatnot. The
way they write like women when they try to make
them strong, I feel like it's very different than than
Eastern ways a lot of the time, and a lot
of the time it has to deal with like them,
you know, undercutting a man in some type of way,
being more aggressive and standoffish and whatnot. So they like it,
kind of wrote a little bit of an arc in
there where Smoker keeps like undermining her a little bit
and then like she has to kind of stand up
for herself to you know, to go along with him.
And you know, it doesn't feel too bad that it's
like a standalone in the live action, but it's one
of those things where I never really got that feeling
of their dynamic in the in the manga, right because
she's the number two and she's just number two for
a reason, like she had his trust like it, but
it so it was like they kind of wrote that
in there, and then, uh, you can kind of feel
how it's like a little bit different writing wise.
Speaker 3: Wow, I agree. So I never really thought about it,
and then I did like it. They gave her like
they added to her, like she's going to the Grand
Line for her own dreams in a way to like
to find all those swords, which was a thing originally,
but it wasn't emphasized as much. So I like that
that she found her own way. But you're right, the
relationship between Smoker and t Shgi was a little bit different,
and they did it for the reason, I guess of
like making her like have to like kind of overcome him.
I guess because he was like putting putting her off.
But in the anime, the way they do it is
like she just takes on two like pirates early on
and she just fucks them up, so like just show
the strength through her actual strength.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, Georgian. It doesn't it doesn't need.
Speaker 3: To be about putting down a man or a man
in treating her like shit blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I didn't really think about
it too much in that standalone arc. I kind of
thought of it more of like overarching across the season.
I noticed it because we got and it's not necessarily
a criticism, it's more of an observation because we got
the same thing with like Miss Golden Week, which very
forgettable character in the Amanda right, kind of a little
bit of the opposite, but like they kind of added
to her character a lot, and then uh, Miss Valentine's
was kind of the same way with mister five, like
she would shoot down a lot of his jokes. He
would make dumb jokes. She would kind of do that,
and then, uh, we could talk about it later. But
I feel like there was some moments that I love
for Nami that really show how strong she is that
they didn't include. Right, So it's just like different ways
of like showing a strength and a character, right that. Uh,
just you can kind of tell on the writing when
they add stuff or remove it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, Western, the Western influence does make
a difference.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think about that too much. It's
a great point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't seen anybody else really bring that up,
but it was something I was kind of thinking about
after I, I guess finished the whole series and said, not
too noticeable in standalones, and not necessarily even a criticism.
It's just more of an observation than anything.
Speaker 3: So Okay, speaking of observations, I observed the fact that
Dragon's powers were more obvious than the live action, which
had to have been green lit bioda.
Speaker 1: So like, obviously we saw.
Speaker 3: A green leaf and a little bit of wind when
he saved Loofy in the anime, and even less in
the manga, but it was like, oh, while he's saving him,
there's a little bit of wind in the background, versus
this they like blew away, which I feel like very
go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I saw a social
media post or something or somebody screened out at a
social media post by like the actor where he mentioned
dragons like double fruit, and it's like, did we just
get like a live action confirmation that dragon has a
double fruit, Like.
Speaker 1: We actually never really knew.
Speaker 3: We all assumed and we all get we all guessed
maybe he has the storm fruit, maybe he has the
destiny Destiny note no me, maybe he has the wind fruit.
Speaker 1: We've all had these theories.
Speaker 3: But technically we never even really knew that he had
a double fruit to begin with, Like no confirmation one
hundred percent, And now the live action kind of confirmed
it because that was not Smoker's powers, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that. And Uh, like I said, they
they're doing a lot of things with foreshadowing, right as
far as Uh introduced Sea prism Stone a little bit
earlier on, which makes sense, a lot of people kind
of assumed theory wise that that's why Lufy can really
move anyways that that they probably would have had that
execution platform, but like they explicitly said that like in
the live action right, so like they're introducing concepts like
that a little bit earlier than than prior. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's move on to They go through Reverse
Mountain and end up with Laboon, the cute little boy
and Coocus.
Speaker 2: We kind of let you start with this one if
you have any any thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the I thought the whole thing with
Labun was interesting.
Speaker 5: That he was with a crew before and then they
had to.
Speaker 4: Leave him because the old man who owned the lighthouse
was saying, how it's gonna be really dangerous if Flabooon
keeps going, because he's gonna be pretty much eaten alive
by all the sea monsters out there. So they just
decided to leave him there and just sail away. But uh,
I also like that little sequence with that Afro black
dude singing to him, you know that Viole. It's just
such a nice catchy little song. The whole the whole thing,
I don't know, but I don't know what what the
fuck happened to them, because they're just long gone and
Labun is just there trying to go through the mound
and trying to get back to them, but the old
guy's like, they're gone, they ain't coming back.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck happened to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really funny hearing Ricon's first impressions, I
think because like most people I talked to have read
the manga or watched the anime, and Ricon has not,
So this is I.
Speaker 5: Don't know what My first impression is, completely raw take.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what's going to happ or even
what happened to his crew that just went.
Speaker 2: But that's not necessarily important. But what is important is
that song that they were singing is when we hear
like throughout the series.
Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, that was That was a very interesting song,
very cool, catchy song.
Speaker 2: I like it, very very catchy.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and then he had to just sedate him
over and over again, and he swallowed the merry go
uh the sorry the gold marry. He swallowed it. And
they're all stuck in there and they meet and they
meet VV and mister and I, and then they were
trying to fucking raid their ship.
Speaker 5: It's pretty cool. But the sequence was awesome to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the music was great. A character was introduced on
that ship.
Speaker 3: I guess we can't talk about spoilers, but great casting,
good laugh.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: He had a really good voice for the song, right,
so it sounded I was he is that guy important
like something may.
Speaker 3: Not really okay, you know, Boon's important maybe in like
four And I.
Speaker 4: Have no idea what happened to lu boone because one
of the story. Yeah, but is he gonna come back
or is he just like long gone? I don't know.
Those are my questions, Like, those are cool characters that
I want to see more of.
Speaker 3: It was a part I can't even say it. Man,
everything's spoiler okay. I very much enjoyed vv's introduction. Obviously,
she's still playing whatever her whatever her alias is, and
she's an assassin I can't remember. But as she slowly
joined the crew, I came to love VV in a
similar way that I loved her in the anime. So
that was great. We'll talk about mister nine. I guess
that whiskey peak because.
Speaker 1: The goat what else Crocus was?
Speaker 3: It was kind of What was really funny was Crocus
is supposed to be like twenty years old in the flashback,
and he just loves like and he's supposed to be
like seventy years old. When Lufy sees him, he did
not look twenty and seventy. He just looked like fifty
plus seventy, like seventy years old the entire time.
Speaker 2: The hair color changed, right. That was another instance where
maybe they could have got two different actors. Yeah, tried
to play it off right, but it didn't bother me
too much. But yeah, definitely something to take note of there.
Speaker 3: And in the anime, Loofy fights Lagoon, but instead this
time he sings to him, which I think works really
well with the backstory, and we get to see he
fights him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I wanted to see that fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's a few different things done differently in
this arc, but I honestly didn't mind it.
Speaker 5: How does he you guys can tell me how does
he fight him?
Speaker 4: Because I've already seen it's more.
Speaker 3: Like it's a it's it's like a battle, but they
kind of respect each other afterwards. And then he paints
the the skull him crossbones on him and in a
similar way so that he won't crash into the mountain anymore,
and he gives them something to believe in that they're
gonna come back around.
Speaker 2: I'll be back to finish our duel, right because it
was a draw this time or.
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he tears the mask off the ship, stabs it
in the met doesn't take it easy, poor guy. It
was the animal abuse.
Speaker 1: Peter might not approve the scene, but you know, I
like the dance.
Speaker 3: I like the song, but like the dance again, another
reference to like the manga fans a little easter egg.
We won't get into it. We also see that on
the wall. Did you notice something about crocuses or crocuses?
Speaker 1: I can't remember it around his name, he's like little
hot recon.
Speaker 4: Who is who is crocus? Again?
Speaker 3: Can you just remind the old light house, lighthouse, old man, Oh,
the lighthouse, old guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but say it again.
Speaker 1: Did you notice something on the walls in his in
his heart?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was what's the name?
He was a There was a picture of him and
gold Roger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I just remembered there was a picture of
him and gold Rogers. So they were like close, very close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like he truly.
Speaker 5: Might be the one to find the one piece.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments from this arc was like
reassuring Noam that she's a good navigator straight up made
me cry for some reason. Like, of all the fucking
moments to make me emotional, it's not the laboon scene
where he's all cute and like crying and stuff. It's
the fucking random scene with Crocus and Nami that was
just maybe.
Speaker 1: Emotional, but I loved it. Do you know what? You
even know what's I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gave he gave her the device or whatever
that thing is she can, yeah, the log poster so
that she can, you know, be a better navigator than
all the than the rest of those out there or whatever.
I love. You can't even yeah, I just can't even
speak right now. Man, I really like I enjoyed this
live action Like it was fine, but there were some issues.
Speaker 2: What issues did you have with the with this art?
Speaker 5: The not enough I need more is my issue?
Speaker 4: Like a lot of like there was just a lot
of characters that were just like in and out so fast,
Like I even more, what happened?
Speaker 2: What happened to her?
Speaker 4: You know how what what's gonna happen later on, I
mean more so quick.
Speaker 3: It's so fast, So why don't you read the longer
or watch the anime reconuck?
Speaker 5: No, man, I ain't watching garbage animation or reading.
Speaker 2: Books getting a remax one day.
Speaker 4: I'll wait for I'll patiently wait for the REDI I'm
patiently waiting for that remake.
Speaker 3: I guess that's a decent point as well, because it
is like they covered in one episode or two episodes,
these arcs that like sometimes take ten to fifteen episodes,
maybe not Logged to Logtown in reverse Mountain, but even Longtown,
it is probably like a dozen episodes with with the filler, right, Yeah,
so you do spend more time with Buggy and more
time with these characters characters versus forty minutes in and
out forty minutes in and out. So actually, like I
could see that being like at the end of the day,
while it is a series adaptation to a series, not
a series two movie. My biggest complaint when they do
a series to a movie, it's not possible. You have
to make your own story up and just like rush
everything versus with this, they are still rushing, but at
least it's a series to a series, But you're right,
recon they are trying to get through the material in
an episode or two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, I did look it up. They covered
a lot of episodes from the anime into into like
eight episodes of the live action. They covered a lot,
so they must have skipped a lot of filler or whatever.
Speaker 2: I would say they skipped filler for sure, but I
wouldn't say they necessarily like skipped too much. They actually
did a pretty good job of Like these live action
episodes are pretty long, right, they were like an hour
each or so. Yeah, And I just recently watched through
like this section of One Piece recently because I was
rewatching with one pace. I'd never seen it before. So
I just finished Drum Island with that. And I don't
know a lot of the arcs that you like, even
Drum Island is like eight episodes maybe of like one pace,
So like it's they like they basically gave it just
as much, if not more time like in the live action. Uh.
And I feel like they were able to cover a
lot of ground. They didn't really didn't really feel like
they left a lot out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Okay, let's.
Speaker 3: Let's keep it moving also the backstory, and we got
to see a character very very excited about that. But
let's move on to Whiskey peak.
Speaker 2: I just want to give a shout out to the
best joke in the series because that happened in the
What's the Joke? The Litla Boon arc. So Zorro is
like more of a serious character. I feel like in
the live action he doesn't get a lot of his
comedic moments, but the actor kind of nailed it with
like there's like, I'm gonna hit that punching bag looking
thing and he's like, you mean the ubula. He's like, ah,
so it's a girl whale? Why it went all over me?
I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's a good reference. It's a reference
to a movie. I think.
Speaker 4: Right, probably guys, I completely forgot the Zoro Mehawk moments
again with that, he's like seeing his mirage.
Speaker 5: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
Speaker 4: I love that little edition of putting me Awk back
in two. Season two.
Speaker 3: I think everyone liked me Hawk wanted to see more.
You don't see that much more of him in the
anime or manga, so by having like the Mihawk mirage
along his journey, just talking shit great.
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there was an interview with the actor
that plays Zoro two where you know, he was determined
to actually fight like one hundred guys. He's like, they
will count if we don't. Like He's like, people will
count and they'll say, like, he didn't actually fight a hundred.
So I thought it was cool. They had him kind
of counting throughout and it was a very extended fighting scene,
but it was a very well done one. I think. Yes,
there was.
Speaker 3: The choreography for that fight scene was really good. There
was a couple of moments in it that I'm like.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was his top notch. That was so sick.
Speaker 3: So I enjoyed Zoro Versus one hundred men. I think
my highlight of this arc is mister Nine's like acting
towards the end. He was a character that I didn't
care about in the anime, and I'm like, Wow, this
guy's got the will.
Speaker 4: Of DNA and you will be missed. I don't even
know if he's dead or not.
Speaker 2: I think he did a pretty good job at the
end of the Like I don't know, the actor did great,
don't take me wrong, but I need I think so,
I don't know, but in the in the anime and manga,
he kind of goes out in the blaze of glory
and uh Andmmedy at least acknowledges or he at least
acknowledges to VV, like, uh, you know, run, I'll take
care of them here while you run. It's like because
you're my partner. Like he kind of makes that self
sacrifice of the anime. So I enjoyed that part of
his character.
Speaker 3: They both they both do assault sacrifice in each But
you're saying VV doesn't get to see this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which you know, it is what it is.
It's not a big change, but true, it's a good point.
Speaker 3: Still give me this moment, but this is I love
talking to different people about it, so I get to
hear all these different perspectives because he just did He
acted so well and I didn't care about mister nine
in the original and I didn't care about it in
the original as well. He made me care about him
in this one, which I thought, like, okay, so he
enhanced the character.
Speaker 1: But that's a good point, like it been. It would
have been nice if somehow VV new yeah, which like.
Speaker 2: I said that was not a big deal at all.
It's like there's gonna be changes and stuff whenever you
you're adapting the story right as long as the main
character parts are there, and he did get his moments.
Speaker 3: So how did you guys feel about Miss Golden Week.
I believe her name is is the Golden Week, the
one of the actor weight?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, she's a Miss Valentine.
Speaker 1: Valentine Okay, yeah, Valentine is.
Speaker 3: With another forgetable character that I think they brought to life,
at least for me.
Speaker 4: I think the whole Baroque works is an interesting group
of villains. You've got multiple ones with cool devil fruit
powers like changing your weight, you got booger bombs, you
got wax powers, and yeah, they're definitely a very interesting bunch,
very powerful. Of course, they put up some really good
fight scenes and shit, but they ultimately just failed a
lot of the times. But they did really well with
the acting, so I enjoyed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't have too many strong feelings form his
Valentine and Number five like either way in the anime
or in the live action, but I feel like, uh no,
I feel like they did pretty well, like you know,
adapting them bringing them to life, and then uh, they
had mister five throw a few dad jokes in there
and stuff, so I enjoyed those. But tell ya, I
guess one big change is that they uh, you know
another one. I don't mind too much, but they made
it to where Zoro and Loofy didn't fight in the
live action, which, honestly, like I said, that one doesn't
really bother me.
Speaker 3: See I mentioned that one bothering me in the other podcast,
not because it was really necessary, just because it was
a moment that I really enjoyed. Because I'm a big
I've always kind of been into power scaling a little bit,
so just getting to see them like go hard against
each other and like be kind of even in strength,
it just kind of like validating things I already thought,
even though it's not a perfect example because obviously Zora
doesn't want to maybe like kill them or or go
too hard and saying with them be Loofy, but Loufy
was like, obviously, I don't know what happened what he
oh it was? It was really stupid, honestly, because Lufy's
supposed to be a good judge of character, which they
did really well in this arc.
Speaker 1: In the live action. He's a good judge of character.
Even though they are assassins.
Speaker 3: He knows that they're good people and there were all
period of reasons for it, So it doesn't make sense
for him to wake up and be like, they gave
us food, they gave us strinths, why the fuck did
you fuck you?
Speaker 1: And they started fighting like it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Really, he was a man that has good character could
be blinded by bribes. Okay, could you know it? Can
it could change your blur your vision there for a bit,
So I either way, I don't mind it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I think about it, logically, it probably
makes sense to take it out. But at the same time,
I just liked seeing lufian Zoro fight, So no, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Changes that are slight to the plat don't bother me
as long as like the core of the character is
kind of there, right, and then they don't change that.
So that's one of those.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think they did pretty well on Whiskey Peak. I
didn't have very many complaints at all here.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Oh by the way, guys, before we keep going with
a podcast, make sure to download Viking Rise and reach
the goals to support Briggs eighty A. Please do it now,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Let's thank you. It's funny.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about mentioning it because I am I
am sponsored by them for like another like two weeks,
I think. So, I guess if this is on YouTube
or on Spotify, I will include a link download a
Viking Rise. Just by downloading the game, you could support
the channel. I get like five bucks for every download,
which is kind of insane for the first fifty downloads.
And then if you want to play the game, play it.
If you don't like it, stop playing. You don't even
need to play it if you don't want to, completely
up to you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thank you Ricon for for doing that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's basically the same thing.
Speaker 3: Let's go moving on to actually know what we got
to see Ekorim or Igoram go out in the a
Blaze of Glory that I thought was pretty cool, and
I think they actually killed him in this one, like
he's done.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he blew up, he's gone. You reminded me
of my biggest complaint of this art right here. So
I guess I guess two complaints. So one we didn't get,
but they did at least hint that, like probably with
C G I and stuff, they're like, yeah, he's in
He's in Alabasta, we'll see him there. So we didn't.
So that was one. Two. We didn't get to see
Igorm dress up as vb Okay, that was a heroic
event in the anime. He came out looking exactly like her,
had the exact outfit at the ready, became a decoy.
That So, who's.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna dress up as her in Alabasta?
Speaker 3: It could bend his wife.
Speaker 2: It could be you know, it could be.
Speaker 4: But oh is Alabasta the the the arc in season three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the next one.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's that they're going to. So that's like
the name of the place.
Speaker 3: Also, since it is said they decided to kill him off,
I think it was a good choice making Robin not
do it because in the in the anime Longans, Robbin
is the one who takes him out, but he lives,
so if they do decide that he's just dead. I
like the fact that it was mister five or whoever
it was, instead of Robin, since Robin is eventually going
to blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm I'm assuming'm say in Ricon knows, but
you know what, if he didn't know about Yojoja, then
maybe he might not know of about Miss Sunday.
Speaker 5: Who Who's y'all?
Speaker 1: I'm speaking, I'm speaking in code, yes, okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know anything of what you guys are talking
about besides of what I've seen.
Speaker 1: Is it miss all Sunday? Is that her alias? For?
Speaker 2: For for Miss all Sunday? Is the mister Zero's partner?
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay?
Speaker 5: Oh the are you talking about?
Speaker 4: What was her name? We saw it? We saw at
the very end, Robin Robin Yeah, yeah, okay, Robin Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like how they started the season by introducing her
though that that scene of her fighting everybody.
Speaker 4: I had no idea who she was until like the
very very last few seconds where they announced her through
the wanted posters. And by the way, I like that
they brought the wanted posters back. The animations pretty cool,
especially for the baroque works being a little bit more
different than the traditional wanted posters. But pretty well done.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to keep this moving because I do
have to go in like twenty minutes. Moving on to
Whiskey Peak, whiskey. You know, we just talk about whiskey peak.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Moving on to Little Garden. I just woke up, guys.
Moving on to the Little Garden.
Speaker 3: The dinosaurs and the giants did look a little jankie
at times, but for the most part it had the
heart of one piece and it had so many, so
many great moments like oossop, Lord of Destruction.
Speaker 1: Look, what did you guys think of the arc?
Speaker 4: I think that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
I think that I think the Little Garden arc to
me was my least favorite.
Speaker 1: It was so dumb.
Speaker 2: It's one of the ones I had the most criticisms about,
so for sure it was good overall. Still, I did
enjoy Little Garden, so did I. But yeah, I had
a lot of criticisms on this one.
Speaker 3: So my one of my complaints small complaint, but I
didn't like that they changed it like Zoro and Soogy
both fought the same animal and were like who killed it?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. When it was.
Speaker 2: Supposed to make CGI, they didn't.
Speaker 3: Have to make two different CGI animals. But the whole
thing was like it was a hunting contest, and then
we find out that Dorian Broggy also had the hunting contest,
and it was like what caused both of their fights
but they both Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I bet you can kick a Tyronosaurus reres in real
life and kill it instantly.
Speaker 1: That's so realistic.
Speaker 3: This show is not realistic precon it's in it even
more over the top than that. I do like the
fact that like Zorro and Sondry are both like capable
of something like that, because it makes sense from the
anime that Sondi could jump and break a t rex's neck,
especially with the stuff that we know now about his character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, world building wise too, like it shows in the
anime they were recon those caves that they were in,
like those giant like white husks that you see from
uh from far out when you're looking at the island.
Those are like the carcasses of the things that Dori
and Broggy hunted, right, so uh oh yeah, that was
one of those things they were regaled at the end
of the ark and like the anime where they they're
like where they kind of have it fade away and
show show the caves now, But it's like a world
building thing where it's just I don't think that was
in the live action per ses.
Speaker 4: This is also one of my critiques in the show
between the two giants. I just didn't really particularly enjoy
those those two or the whole idea why they were
sucking dueling what they're doing.
Speaker 5: It is because uh.
Speaker 2: I had an argument and in their culture that you
you know, if you have a you know, your honor
put in doubt or what have you and stuff, you
might might duel to the death right in order.
Speaker 4: To No, no, no, I'm talking about the the reason why
they were dueling and why it took all these years.
Speaker 1: They forgot about it, They forgot what was no then.
Speaker 5: They mentioned it at the end.
Speaker 2: They had the same type of argument where they like
both hunted something and then they had an argument.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's because they both hunted something and they
were arguing I think who killed it or or whatever.
Speaker 3: I just thought had who had the bigger seats In
the anime, Zorro and Sonji both went hunting and they
were arguing about who had the bigger because one of
them was like thicker and one of them was longer,
who had the bigger? Like hunt and it was a
paralleled dory and Broggy's argument that they forgot about because
they both caught a sea king and bested a huge
sea king, and they were arguing about who was the
bigger hunt of the day or bigger catch of the day,
and then they started fighting over it, and then they
fought for so many years and drawed so many times
they forgot why they were even fighting.
Speaker 1: And I do think it added a little bit of
value to the arc.
Speaker 3: It also even just like like building wise, the island
itself was those caves like Jordan mentioned were the sea
king's bones, and it just it just little cool things
like that that I really appreciated as a Wumpiece fan.
And they did remove that, so and then that's a great,
a great criticism.
Speaker 2: I mean, those are things I noticed, but those were
not my biggest criticisms of the arca. There was there
was two that really bothered me, or one that really
bothered me, another one that just kind of whatever, but
it did bother me. The biggest one I think was
how they interpreted. And like I said, I haven't read
any of the Elboff arc in the manga, so maybe
you can correct me on this if I'm wrong or
misinterpreting it. Like how they interpreted their dual and like
the religion of like elbowf right, So whenever they're fighting
each other, you know, they they take the alcohol right
beforehand it blows up and like they don't really realize
what happened in the live action and uh, you know,
that's one way to maybe go about it. But I
feel like that takes away a lot from uh, you know,
manga and anime wise and stuff. What happened was, uh
was he drank it beforehand it exploded. He knew it,
but like it affected him a lot. But in his
mind he's like, that's that's you know, that's divinely ordained, right,
Like if that's what happens, that was uh you know,
that's the way it was meant to be.
Speaker 1: Like that was that was that was Odin's decision exactly.
Speaker 2: Knowing he's probably going to die because of that, right,
So it takes away like the weight of that. I
feel like that was my biggest thing that bothered me
was I feel like they just and then they acted
like towards the end that like the you know, oh,
it was a stupid reason we were fighting, so we
probably shouldn't fight anyways. And then they started another fight.
It's like the reason doesn't matter. Like I feel like
they missed like the heart and soul of like why
those warriors were kind of going at it and like
why uh, and the fact that they would have chosen
to regardless of a you know, things like that happening
on the sideline right that are outside of their control,
so they wouldn't have seen it as cheating. They're like,
this is just like preordained by Odin.
Speaker 1: He's a warrior.
Speaker 3: He's going into battle no matter the circumstances as well exactly, although.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I do agree with you, Jordan, but I also kind
of disagree, just because there's a moment during the fight
where his stomach like explodes and he knows that something happened,
and he could have easily been like like let's pause
the fight whatever, like like there was someone, there was
some outside force that impacted this, like he.
Speaker 1: Knew even though he didn't he didn't know prior to
the fight.
Speaker 3: It happened during the fight, and he knew that a
bomb fucking exploded inside of him or something happened whatever,
whatever it may be. So I feel like it had
a similar weight for me where it's just like he's
fighting anyway. He could say like, at the end of
the day, they're boys, Like I know they've been fighting
by the end of the day. I'm sure the other
giant wouldn't have wanted to fight him in a week
in state, So he could have been like, there's someone
else on the island that fucking blew up my stomach
or something happened.
Speaker 1: Let's pause for a second.
Speaker 3: But he would never do that, So I feel like
it had a similar It did have a similar weight.
Speaker 1: To me as a viewer at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe, and maybe I am being too nitpicky. I
guess it just felt a little bit different, like him
marching in the battle knowing he's already injured, versus like
a happening midfighter.
Speaker 1: Trust me, bro, I could be nipkey. I could be
nippicky as well.
Speaker 3: There's a scene in Logtown where Zoro goes to grab
the sword and then this one he just grabs it
and then and then someone else has to tell him
that it's cursed or he kind of notices after he
pulls it out, versus in the anime, he like he
feels all the handles and he just like this one,
This one's cursed.
Speaker 2: This is the one that takes me into my other,
That takes me into my other. Nitpick is is all
the things that have to do with like Lufy's instinct,
so like it made it kind of goofy when he
was fighting mister this time around, because he did not
hit the right guy at all, whereas like, uh, you know,
fighting in the in the manga, like he hits number
three right away and he's like, how did you know
it was me?
Speaker 3: He's like instinct, like yeah, Like the coward is gonna
hide in the back the strate, the one who strategized.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be the furthest away from danger, right, yes,
and yeah.
Speaker 2: Trying to make the fight like maybe longer or something.
I'm not sure, but I agree there was like little
things like that that kind of bothered me.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm gonna call the one podcast praising one piece
live action and the next one grossing it.
Speaker 5: My verdict, Little Garden trash.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Little Garden sucked. Moving on.
Speaker 1: I still like the I still liked it.
Speaker 5: I loved Orangetown. Orangetown was better than the Little Guard.
Speaker 4: And let's just say that.
Speaker 2: Orgetown is probably the best arc in the live action
so far. So it's that's true.
Speaker 3: Okay, moving on to what's next, Drum Island. We go
right to Drum Island because now we got hit with
the with the prehustory disease.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was my biggest character criticism that like
made me kind of rethink everything else, like in hindsight
of like how they handled writing the women over the
course of the season. So one of my favorite moments
in like four Nami and One Piece is she's a
very strong woman, right, we know that based on how
she handled Coco Yashi Village. She's very self sacrificial when
it comes to like big things for those that she
cares about. And in the anime and manga and whatnot,
we see that journey between Little Garden and Drum Island
of her trying to push on anyways, and we see
how lost everybody kind of is without her as like,
you know, she she's suffering from a fever, but she
keeps trying to navigate throughout that, so she's pushing through
it and then she you know, in the live action
we had number five mentioned how bad things have gotten
in Alabasta. In like the newspaper, but in the manga
and stuff, she hides that from VV because she doesn't
want her to worry about it if she doesn't have
to write, She's like trying to take those burdens upon herself.
So how they handled on me being sick versus her
just passing out and waking up four days later and
the live action, I feel like that that bothered me
a lot too, where I'm like, you're taking out some
of the moments where she's like silently suffering, the like
showing that internal strength, right.
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's a good point as well.
Speaker 3: I do think it's probably just had a time thing
where they're like, we need to keep them moving moving
and get everything done at eight but eight episodes, so
her just waking up four days later is like a
pretty easy way of doing it, but you do lose
something in the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like there's a lot of scenes that they
took out where I'm like, I kind of understand it.
You don't want to animate like a bunch of bear bunnies, right,
Like things like or like that you'd have to do
CBI for Like, there's things I get where I'm like
that one I feel like it would have been very
easy because it's just all the very It just takes
place there on the ship. Maybe you have to do
some weather stuff, but uh, I don't know. I was
sad to see go. That's one of my favorite moments
for nominal.
Speaker 1: All right, good point.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something positive with Drum Island. Doctor here Look.
Phenomenal performance and my favorite character in season two, probably
my second character overall, seven favorite, second favorite character overall
for the live action. What an amazing backstory and my
favorite episode in the In the arc thoughts Ricon and
Jordan on Doctor here Look and Chopper in the backstory,
I love here Look.
Speaker 2: Chopper has one of the best backstories. But I'm interested
to hear hear Ricon talk about the hamsters.
Speaker 1: Hilarious.
Speaker 4: So Doctor Herelik was an interesting character for sure, interesting hairstyle.
Speaker 5: Let's let me just get out out of the way.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he just finds the hamster and he's injured,
and he takes the hamster back to his crib and
he treats the hamster, and the hamster can speak and
he can even transform into Giga Hamster, which is pretty badass.
Speaker 5: And uh, pretty much the hamster.
Speaker 4: Chopper wants to become a doctor, so here Look teaches
him how to become a doctor. He teaches a medicine
and all that stuff because he wants Chopper to become
a doctor fulfill his and here Look dies as a
hero because he tricks Chopper into getting a poison mushroom
where Chopper thought it was like a mushroom to.
Speaker 5: Heal his incurable disease.
Speaker 4: So he drinks it and goes out with a fucking
bang at Wopple's castle and just explodes.
Speaker 3: I have a question for Jordan. Also, that was the
worst fucking character analysis.
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: That was hilarious. Recan doctor Kreha teaches chapter how to
be a doctor. But doctor here Look teaches Chopper to
like chase his dreams and like to trust again, I guess,
and yeah, yeah, well anyway, let's Jordan had a question
in the anime or the manga. There was a reason why.
Oh they had the same reason in this. Never mind,
they did a good job. The whole thing was he's
gonna die anyway, so he wanted to make sure that
the doctors were actually safe. Because Wopple puts like a
little bluff that the doctors are all sick and dying.
So him as a doctor, he's like, I'm going to
go up and even though it's a trap at the trap,
I'm going to go up and make sure. And he's
dying anyway, and then he goes out with a bang.
That way, Chopper's mushroom isn't the thing that kills him
as well. And it was a great final speech, a
great final moment, and yeah, fire to his death. This
one more thing prior to his death, he did achieve
his goal of creating that whatever chemistry that attaches to
the snow to create cherry blossoms for the country. He
wasn't able to do it himself, but he was able
to at least achieve that science and pass that on
to Chopper and doctor Kurrey. How which is good, I
honestly to think, all in all great arc And he complaints,
since you've been you've been very good at finding things
that I kind of completely agree with, And he complains
about the doctor Herolock backstory.
Speaker 2: Honestly, no, like I loved the way they handled a
doctor hero luck. I like you said, they were very
faithful for like the reasoning behind it like he goes
up there and he's like, thank God, nobody is sick.
Like I thought this could have been a national emergency,
right if all the doctors get sick, then they die.
So he was willing to sacrifice himself just for the
chance of that. He was probably gonna die anyways, But
that's beside the point. I feel like you probably would
have gone regardless. It's just the kind of guy he is.
Because doctor doctor Kuh taught Chopper medicine. But like like
you said, Hero Luck was had the heart right. He
wanted to cure the illnesses of the heart. And he's like,
when does a man die, you know, It's it's not
when he's uh, it's not when he's shot, it's not
when he's eats a poison mushroom. It's not when he
has an incuriable disease. It's all about when he's forgotten. Right,
So the way he lived his life was one that's
I don't think any of us will forget anytime soon.
No no complaints for me, doctor Heroluck or the backstory.
Speaker 3: Well said, well said, emotional heartwarming moments as well between
Chopper and doctor here Luck really really well done. Then
we move on. One moment that I liked was Soanjy
telling his backstory early on to Noa Me. I kind
of would have liked it. They flashed to his mom
in the bed and him making the food or whatever
for a second, but they assuming they'll do that later.
But at the same time, they don't really have to.
The're probably never gonna get there, so it's nice to
get that things that we know now. They're adding to
the story, developing the characters a little bit better early on,
foreshadowing things. It was an emotional moment and I think
it added to Sonji's character. One thing I want to
say about Sonjy in this iteration, he's definitely more of
a gentleman, more of a prioritized as being like a cook,
a gentleman, and.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: I guess he tries to go for like a cool
look rather than being a simp, which I don't mind
that change, but I do wish he was a little
bit more flirtatious. You don't need to be puppy dog
Guy's nosebleeds, but they could have made him a little
bit more flirtatious, like his first introduction him and Namy
where he ignores the guys at broughtier and talks to Noami.
They did a good job with the flirtatiousness, and you
do have one scene when he's a bartender and whiskey peek,
but I did want to see a little bit more
like I think it's a big part of his character
being a simp, So maybe he doesn't need to be
like Mega mega simp, but just a little bit more
if you want to go to the gentleman route, maybe
just a little bit more flirtatious and I'm interested in women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough because that is one of the parts
where his character feels a little bit different, but nothing else.
It's been pretty consistent because it's his character has a
little bit different in the anime right as a lot
of the characters do. But they the live action counterparts,
do you feel a little bit different than the manga counter.
Speaker 1: Feels the most for me. For the actual straws, he
feels the most.
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm biased because Soni's my favorite character in
the anime and manga. Yeah, and I do think the
anime yeah, oh no, I've met in the anime and
manga and the live action.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's my favorite probably.
Speaker 2: As far as like how they adapted it in the
live action, I think, I think doing a good job
is actor's done great so far.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think i'm a little I'll choose Buggy,
No we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the straw hats, because Buggy and doctor
here look are probably probably the best actors in the series.
I Thinknam is a really good actor as well.
Speaker 1: Emily Rudd is her name.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, whenever I say how they're adapted, it's
not necessarily even the criticism of the actor goes behind
it a little bit as.
Speaker 1: Well, writing one percent as well.
Speaker 3: But I do think no, he's like acting makes her
feel more like Nomy or just like makes me care
a little bit more. I do feel like Songsy all
and all like they're doing a good job. He just
feels like a different character and it goes even more
beyond just the simpleness. I just feel like the way
that they chose to make him talk and his dialogue
at times, and just like the like the annunciation. I
guessed it comes off as like a different type of cool,
and it's still cool, and I think he's doing a
good job, but it's a different type of cool for
whatever reason. And again it's just because I think I'm
just because I'm a Sondy like fucking fanboy that I'm
analyzing every word that he that he says.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, like, well, it does feel a
little bit different. I do like kind of that dynamic
he has whenever they have those scenes where it's just
the boys bantering around or whatnot, right like some of
the scenes he has with Oosop where they're searching through
the whale and he's like, I don't want to touch that.
You touch that. So he's still doing a good job
of like making him feel like part of the crew.
But it does feel like a little bit of a
different Sonji.
Speaker 1: It just feel like a different a different Soanjie. But
you're right.
Speaker 3: I did say that in one of my clips as
well when I was talking about it. I think when
Sonji interacts with Zorro and when he interacts with Oosop,
he feels the most like Soandji in the series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I enjoy. So uh.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we got the we got the will of d
reference by doctor Gaha, we got some cool fights, some
different changes with the fights. I do think it was
I wish Lufy just took out Wopple a little bit easier.
I don't mind the teamwork because teamwork is always great
in regards to vv jumping in, and the Saundry kick
was actually cannon. He he does that in the anime
where like he flings Loofy towards him.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like.
Speaker 3: Wopple is so weak compared to Loofy, and I guess
they didn't want to spend two episodes building up a
fight and like, yeah, to make it like, oh, Lufy's
is so much stronger than Wopple. But it also Lufy
is really strong early on compared to the people he
fights other than our long for the most part, So
I do kind of wish that he had some cooler
moments in the fight where he overpowered him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had some power scaling stuff, because like I said,
they haven't given the Lufy a lot of the same
feats in the live action. And I did have some
concerns about character writing and stuff too as well prior
to this this season airing, because I remember seeing some
tweets about like from some of the writers in particular, right,
so a lot of my criticisms are gonna be like
the writers and I remember seeing one where they're like,
you know, Wopple is obviously based off of Donald Trump,
because you know Trump's German name or like it originates
from the German name Drum, and that's where you get drum.
And it's like it was quickly like disproven, got community noted,
and you deleted it because it's like, no, it was
based on like Drum Island or like the drum Rockies
in Canada, right, don't take away their Canada reference.
Speaker 3: And also, dude, this was fucking I know Trump's an
old man and he's been around forever, but dude, he's
fucking Wopple's Wopple's twenty years old.
Speaker 2: Wopple was written in the year two thousands, so yeah,
it didn't make sense. He quickly got community noted for that.
It was deleted, right, which is why I had my concerns.
But overall, you do have like a thousand plus people
working on this production. It turned out really well. Rum
Island had the fewest complaints on like, I thought they
did really well.
Speaker 3: So I do kind of hate when a lot of
Hollywood writers try to make things political. One Piece is
inherently a political show, one hundred percent in my opinion,
it's a political show or has politics. Right, we have
the world government deceiving people and actually being fucking demons
and this and that and taking away high history and
hiding truth and rewriting truth and stuff like that. And
then we got like marines versus pirates versus revolutionaries, this
and that.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3: So I do think it's inherently political, But I do
kind of hate when writers bring politics into stories and
try to connect things to real life unnecessarily. But that's
that's a tweet, So I don't leive a fuck about it.
It'd be different if they had a message in the
actual series.
Speaker 2: In this show, That's what I'm saying. I was, I
was like worried a little bit, but then I like
how it turned out overall, right, So and yeah, I'm
kind of the same way. I think One Piece has
a lot of good generalizations that you see from patterns
throughout history and stuff. Right, there's like a political essence
to it. But trying to make like one to one
political comparisons, it just doesn't doesn't work a lot of time, right, Like,
it's just not what it is.
Speaker 3: My favorite one to one political comparison is that everyone
in New Government is demons or lizards under their So
think I think that, But I think Biden was wearing
a mask. Guys, I think he was wearing a bask
He died a long time ago. He's a bat, a
ligard man, a lizard man, is fucking Biden.
Speaker 2: But going back to how they handed Wopple in the
live action, right, I do I did? I guess I
had that same criticism a little bit of like he
almost seemed like too tough of an opponent in the
UH live action comparatively like in the manga it was
just Loofy fought him real quick, Chopper fought his two
main henchmen, and that it didn't feel like he was
that big of a deal. But at the same time
they did it was like a season finality of the
live action, So I see why they wanted to make
the stakes higher, and they did kind of do a
good job of like showing how he like, you know,
he ate his henchman in the manga and like morphed
them together. He did similar things with all his troops
in this one, and it felt like something that's probably
something his fruit is capable of, you know, for the
day or whatnot, and like until he was defeated, Like
that was a really cool way I think to do that,
like final live action battle at the end. So Drum
Island Ark was probably my favorite of the of the
season overall.
Speaker 3: And then the series ends on a banger. We get
the cherry blossom, we get Zoro putting Chopper on his shoulder.
We get vv saying Okay, well drop me off at
the island or I'll drop me off on a nearby
ship or whatever. Thank you guys so much for you're
the best, and Lufy's like, what are your what are
you fucking talking about? We're obviously coming to Alabasta. We're
gonna fuck up these baroque work guys. You're one of
us now type of thing. And it was just another
moment that well done differently is just one piece being
one piece that has the heart of one piece and
made me feel things that the animed manga make me
feel consistently, and I think it ended on a great
note that I'm excited for season three. Final thoughts guys.
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is a spoiler, but at
the very end, that doctor said something about the will
of D and then she mentioned O D Roger and
I'm like, he is he related to Loofy because he's
like Monkey D Loofy And then I remembered, Oh, his
grandfather is Monkey D Garb. So does Lufy have like
a family of pirates that I don't know about?
Speaker 1: Or something like what's going on?
Speaker 2: One piece introduces a lot of like questions and things
that keep people theorizing and they won't answer until way
way later. So this was this was where that was
introduced initially was.
Speaker 4: Does he have a bunch of monkey de family out
there that I don't know about?
Speaker 1: So it's less about the monkey.
Speaker 5: Who's next Monkey D? Henry?
Speaker 1: It's Monkey D?
Speaker 5: Is it Monkey D Roger?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, you're not You're not ready for
carro d? You No, it's gold D Roger. D D
is a mystery, the will of these kind of a
mystery that you'll you'll learn more about as time goes on.
But there's many many characters throughout the series that have
this weird D in their name. We have learned a
little bit more, but not that much more. But yeah, good, good,
good pickup recon good good conversation.
Speaker 1: Boys. I do think they referenced it a little.
Speaker 3: Korea does bring up, oh, is that what he goes
by nowadays gold Roger when we know that he's Goldie Roger.
But they went about it like the he she actually
says the will of d which was not something that
was said in the anime.
Speaker 1: So I do like that a little addition as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one one more thing just so I have it.
I feel like I've been a little overly critical because
I did like the series overall, So I want to
say one more good thing about Drum Island. I did enjoy.
I think vv's child actor that they did for the flashback,
thankfully they did use two actors this time. That would
have been weird, uh, but she did really good. And
then uh, I think uh vv's actor teaching Loofy diplomacy,
which is a huge part for his character in this arc.
He has to learn, like, you know, you can't just
be violent for these people here, they're scared.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So, like I feel like the arc or the scene
where she got shot, so I feel like they did
that pretty well right overall. The heart of it was there,
and I like how they handled vv's character in the
live actions.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Also, VV was hot as hell,
which helps.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Monkey people were complaining about her casting initially, and I think, wow,
she not only did she do a good job, not
only did you feel like VV and acted really well,
but she was also super hot. So like, all in all,
fantastic character.
Speaker 1: Is it Monkey? D VV show Monkey d VV?
Speaker 4: Is it? Is?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: Monkey de Buggy? Because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's really he's really strung up on the monkey thing
when you should be focused on the D.
Speaker 2: It's just his first name, right, It's all about the
dcon is I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: We'll find out, I guess, or you guys already know.
Speaker 5: I'll find out soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And on that note, I do need to go.
I hope you guys enjoyed this podcast. Thank you guys
for joining me. I'm really happy we have to talk
about the one piece Live action Season two is fantastic
And just like that, I'll see you all in the
next one
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