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Speaker 4: What the fellas? This ain't my first time at the rodeos?
Speaker 3: How, folks, your host double jback here coming at you
Speaker 3: live slash live from my studio slash RV dining room
Speaker 3: located directly inside America. Anyhow, Folks at the interwebs, welcome
Speaker 3: back again. JJ Vance here, host of Operation GCD and
Speaker 3: perhaps more notably not not the vice president right there. Anyhow,
Speaker 3: I will be your pilot and navigator for tonight's Shenanigan
Speaker 3: infused journey into the mind of this particular garbage can dude,
Speaker 3: and uh not gonna lot of your folks got a
Speaker 3: real barn burner here on deck free all tonight. The
Speaker 3: occult and or s o teric review of the nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty I'm sorry disregard nineteen ninety three comedy cinematic masterpiece.
Speaker 3: So I married an axe murderer, So before I welcome
Speaker 3: on tonight's guest and panel. Here for the review from
Speaker 3: a thank you folks the game, here for joining us
Speaker 3: tonight to get a little GCD and like I said,
Speaker 3: you got a real barn Burner on deck. We got
Speaker 3: hearty love, Unfiltered Rise Podcast.
Speaker 4: Welcome Dye, Hi, thanks for having me. Always a wonderful
Speaker 4: time and one of my favorite movies. JJ.
Speaker 3: So no, you ain't kiddingaped I agree with you on
Speaker 3: both both counts, ma'am. The always enjoy our conversations and
Speaker 3: this is easily one of my favorite films for sure.
Speaker 3: And we had a we had a real barn Burner
Speaker 3: conversation the other night. They're on Charles's podcast over there
Speaker 3: at the host of the Eyes and Ears podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a good one. That was a
Speaker 4: good one I had.
Speaker 3: I early enjoyed that one for sure. Check it out.
Speaker 4: A little bit of bloodline magic over there. I might
Speaker 4: want to check it out.
Speaker 3: Guys, I mean the cult the occult Bloodlines of America.
Speaker 3: You know, you know it is an underlying thing I
Speaker 3: like to speak about here, and you and I frequently
Speaker 3: discussed when we collaborate on shows and discussions. But it
Speaker 3: isn't an element that I think does play into everything
Speaker 3: within a lot of the folks that put hidden things
Speaker 3: in films, which we see tonight here as well. So
Speaker 3: in our next did you have any plugs you'd like
Speaker 3: to plug here before we welcome in our next guest here? Ready?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: Sure? And so I'm Heidi Love. If you don't know me,
Speaker 4: I'm at the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everwhere podcasters served. You
Speaker 4: can't find me at my own website Unfiltered Rise podcast
Speaker 4: dot com and anywhere else you want to check me out,
Speaker 4: I'm probably there. I'm usually bouncing in.
Speaker 3: Spo can bab. I liked that one thing I have
Speaker 3: for humor right there, Now that's good stuff. I again,
Speaker 3: thanks again, Hi you for joining me, Julia, welcome man,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining me here to get a little gc D.
Speaker 3: We welcome back for your first time.
Speaker 2: My first time. Every time it feels like.
Speaker 3: See I'm going a joke I like to make, right
Speaker 3: mm hmm. So uh would you like? What's what are
Speaker 3: you working on over there at Cosmic Peach. I know
Speaker 3: we've done some epic Tuesday World conversations, you know, in
Speaker 3: the recent past, and you know, a very great conversation
Speaker 3: with you and your husband Colby on the Colts the
Speaker 3: creepy cult situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Colby is wanting to do some more
Speaker 2: cult stuff with you. Hopefully I can join in on
Speaker 2: that one too. I always love talking about Colts. Love
Speaker 2: joining anytime on Operation GCD. We always have a blast.
Speaker 2: It's always a barn burner. We've burned the barn down.
Speaker 3: That's what we aim to do here. Yeah, So any
Speaker 3: plugs you'd like to make you working on anything else
Speaker 3: you're working on right now?
Speaker 2: Well, I have a presentation that I actually want to
Speaker 2: bring on to Operation GCD at some point of Program
Speaker 2: Killer that I discovered that I think you'll find very interesting.
Speaker 2: But as usual Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 2: if you want to get in touch with me, please
Speaker 2: send me an email. But yeah, no, just uh, just
Speaker 2: running and gunning.
Speaker 3: Well, program Killers now you're talking my language. That's what
Speaker 3: I've been covering in the lot here in recent Weekshart
Speaker 3: in Operation GCD.
Speaker 2: You we yeah, we'll have It's pretty Craig Gray Well
Speaker 2: before I.
Speaker 3: Bring in her last guesser This evening my Abbott and
Speaker 3: Costello comedy duo partner from his Kneb's Idaho four channel.
Speaker 3: You know, the one thing that that I think is
Speaker 3: a meta analysis here on the note of these program
Speaker 3: killers on the film So I Married an Axe Murderer
Speaker 3: is we're in. It's telling a tale about San Francisco,
Speaker 3: a town with a lot of these program killers, as
Speaker 3: you just described, and it's doing so in a manner
Speaker 3: about a serial killer, just saying so, I think there's
Speaker 3: a lot of that in tonight's film So and Last
Speaker 3: Night least or how welcome can be to your first
Speaker 3: This is the this is the Purge takeover, this Purge
Speaker 3: invasion of Oprich and GCD, the REVERSI invasion. Usually I'm
Speaker 3: invading the Purge, but he be's the Purge Idaho. For
Speaker 3: Aban Costell, I would like to describe our routine over there,
Speaker 3: and I uh appreciate you joining me.
Speaker 1: Sir, me and my cookie.
Speaker 3: I see, we brought our type two diabetes snacks with
Speaker 3: us tonight.
Speaker 1: You have eating to match that.
Speaker 3: Let me know, I don't know, I wasn't prepared for this.
Speaker 3: You only bring my snack to the Purge.
Speaker 1: You should have know better, shotter.
Speaker 3: So what what's We had a pretty good purge yesterday
Speaker 3: going over some new details that it seemed to be
Speaker 3: a whirlwind of topics. I saw some clips from a
Speaker 3: different YouTube creator talking about that, Uh you know the
Speaker 3: new Brian's friend that got rolled out along the side
Speaker 3: with these door dash things that get rolled out right,
Speaker 3: all these distractions. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was calling people fat in his video that
Speaker 1: got taken down and then he attacked her and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't mess with Jewels. She's she's a good lady,
Speaker 1: she's smart, one of the friends of the show.
Speaker 3: I'm a little concerned about that man's criminal has for
Speaker 3: my assessments, but that's a different story all together, and
Speaker 3: perhaps just grounds for the next.
Speaker 1: Plot for Monday. There Ja Jay four shootday.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, we'll do what we do on a weekend purchases.
Speaker 3: So the next next purchase Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Huh, so we tak a weekend. If I do a
Speaker 1: pop up surprise purge, it wouldn't be surprised. I've been
Speaker 1: purging pretty much twenty four hours straight for the last
Speaker 1: couple of days and on stop on my not Kndy's
Speaker 1: channeling on here now yeah, on my channel. So yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot coming out a lot to talk about,
Speaker 1: and then you got to get the goofing around off
Speaker 1: also as well. Today there was a lot of articles
Speaker 1: I tagged you in. I don't know if you had
Speaker 1: a chance to look at those. Yeah, a mother in
Speaker 1: Idaho thinks that her teenage children thirteen and fifteen, we're
Speaker 1: kidnapped by an offshoot the l d S Church.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, you're in the right spot for these stories.
Speaker 3: My friend they had Hedi's here, she's an expert in these.
Speaker 1: Topics or clean or fresh or whatever it is. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of creepy story that this just popped off.
Speaker 4: Today close to my house. We're going to Idaho.
Speaker 1: It happened on Sunday, actually Sunday night, while she was
Speaker 1: at Bible study. The children vanished and she was a
Speaker 1: part of this cult. And that's what they do with kids,
Speaker 1: is they sacrifice them, basically, and and they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be reborn clean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, such matters, right, Glory Visions of Glory
Speaker 4: cult right.
Speaker 1: Well, the musicians of the higher echelon in Idaho also
Speaker 1: are attached to I think these these offshoot cults, but
Speaker 1: as well as the LDS Church in general.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you said that because you can in
Speaker 3: the right place talk these matters, sir, and I will
Speaker 3: in fact be including the Bob Bob Cocaine Evans factor
Speaker 3: to the Knight's film and the processed Church factor to
Speaker 3: the Knight's film. So just throw that out.
Speaker 2: I'm excited as well. That's very interesting, and uh.
Speaker 3: If I may plug a couple of things before we
Speaker 3: get started, I'm definitely got to you folks to check
Speaker 3: out the IAHO for purge. Kane, b's the purge your
Speaker 3: i HO for, uh, you know, news information and your
Speaker 3: latest and fast food and type two diabetes informations. So
Speaker 3: the uh. It's interesting that you mentioned that thing about
Speaker 3: an air force bombing yesterday because I still had an
Speaker 3: about it, Kane, but Heidi was just telling me about it.
Speaker 3: If you if you wanted to bring that up, I
Speaker 3: know you were. You won my opinion on that, sir.
Speaker 3: So I'm happy to share that with you for my plugs.
Speaker 1: Oh, sure, share it with Heidi. I see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I was actually sharing with him that, uh a couple
Speaker 4: of days ago. It's been one hundred degrees all week
Speaker 4: and then it got down to forty five degrees in
Speaker 4: the middle of summer and we had a huge sonic
Speaker 4: boot and I'm like, what in the earth that wasn't
Speaker 4: the dog like, come on, what is happening? And actually
Speaker 4: really scared my little girl. She uh, she freaked out.
Speaker 4: And I was like, it's okay, like we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4: And they were like, sorry about it. We didn't tell
Speaker 4: you we're setting off the bombs. I'm like, ship the
Speaker 4: nine is gonna come.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: You know when they started setting off the bombs, those
Speaker 4: aliens come back.
Speaker 1: So I thought I was gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: the big star here today with my tornado a mile
Speaker 1: over from my house today about an hour ago.
Speaker 3: But you got to your game here gain here at operations, especially, I.
Speaker 1: Forgot who I was dealing with me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you got you gotta. You gotta understand
Speaker 3: the environment you're walking into here. These are heavy hitters,
Speaker 3: you're king.
Speaker 1: I got no regrets. I got no regrets.
Speaker 4: I don't have a.
Speaker 3: Cooking much like yourself, sir, much like yourself, so all respect,
Speaker 3: I honestly didn't know anything about that, but the Heidi
Speaker 3: was telling me about it, and it sounds very interesting,
Speaker 3: and I assume this is the the air force bomb
Speaker 3: you were describing to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, then they then they did it again. So
Speaker 4: they did it again and just were like oops. So
Speaker 4: they're obviously detonating and practicing out here. You know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of downwinders out here that have permanent damage
Speaker 4: from the last time they played this game. And then
Speaker 4: it gets all cold, and you know, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: are they lighting up? There's Bill Gates here. I want
Speaker 4: to know. I don't know, but yeah, the sun definitely
Speaker 4: went away so very two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't trying to embarrass.
Speaker 4: I mean, they do all kinds of stuff here. I
Speaker 4: dare say the Mormons have sold out the Goyam and
Speaker 4: just don't care. They're locked up in there whatever proof houses.
Speaker 4: So eh.
Speaker 3: In regards to Twizz's comment there about the bonners, it
Speaker 3: reminded me of a statement you made yesterday. Not fear
Speaker 3: bounders came, but when you were doing your introduction yesterday
Speaker 3: you mentioned what sounded me like necro fancy Elon Musk
Speaker 3: was taking the ashes of individuals into space.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, well, not him personally, but his his uh
Speaker 1: his rocket craft there.
Speaker 3: One of those individuals was check off.
Speaker 1: Is that correct. H, I know, Scotty, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Scotty. Yes, so Scotty's son was Boner.
Speaker 1: From Checkoff might be in there. Uh and then also
Speaker 1: Geene Roddenberry as well.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go. So that that was one I
Speaker 3: forgot included yesterday. The Bob cocaine factor of that matter,
Speaker 3: those are Bob's friends, Gene Rodden.
Speaker 4: Genie Boy was definitely all include in on the most
Speaker 4: that's for sure for sure.
Speaker 3: And the uh and Boner from Growing Pains Dad, Scotty there,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're famliar with Boner's death. Dude,
Speaker 3: That dude died a really weird death.
Speaker 1: So did the guy from the dad from ALF also
Speaker 1: passed away really wild?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if Boner from Growing Pains had
Speaker 3: the same myth in gay black male prostitute problem that
Speaker 3: the father did, but you know, you know they might have.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. There's a lot of tabloids photos of
Speaker 3: that elf or the elf the ALF father, and he's
Speaker 3: done a lot of a lot of with a lot
Speaker 3: of gay black male prostitutes. So I'm no judgment here.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't know it's exact same.
Speaker 4: Circumstances, prostitution in general, or if you're found strangling yourself
Speaker 4: in your own death, it's probably not a good look.
Speaker 4: Like don't don't die during it, for heaven's sakes.
Speaker 3: Clean it up well for sure. But do you all
Speaker 3: remember that fell about name of Brian Pack who was
Speaker 3: involved in diddling one of them kids for I think
Speaker 3: from the Disney Junior maybe I think it was he
Speaker 3: was Leonardo DiCaprio's babysitter or whatever on the Growing Paint set.
Speaker 3: I just imagine a lot.
Speaker 2: Of dark shipment that was Nickelodeon.
Speaker 3: Was it a Nickelodeon didler? Okay, I thought he did
Speaker 3: one of them kids from the Wizards of Waverley play show.
Speaker 3: Maybe gets conflated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, for sure did and uh, what's his
Speaker 2: fuck from Drake and Josh? I think it was Drake.
Speaker 3: There you go? That was Nickelodeon. Okay, Yeah, that that
Speaker 3: that he.
Speaker 2: Was a Nickelodeon pervert and there was plenty of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got Samantha from Mike Carley as well.
Speaker 4: So sad that we gotta Montana going crazy up in
Speaker 4: the house, Like you can see the fallout from all
Speaker 4: this stuff.
Speaker 3: I haven't cut well, I'm glad you said that. You
Speaker 3: glad you said that, because that's you guys want to
Speaker 3: hear it. Uh, can we can we hold that for
Speaker 3: maybe the intermission? Maybe the intermission will do that. So
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said Amanda Bynes because everyone wants to
Speaker 3: tribute Oliver downfall to Dan Schneider. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: he's not a factor involved, but I'd like to know
Speaker 3: where Dan Schneider and J. J. Brin, the neo processed
Speaker 3: cult leader meet, because Amanda Bynes his best friend for
Speaker 3: many years. What party until the wee hours of the
Speaker 3: morning was a J. Bryan? And Amanda Binds parties with
Speaker 3: wild eyed friend in La until four am, and she
Speaker 3: continues to turn down parents help, And there he is,
Speaker 3: mister processed church himself.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that Amanda Binds is now advocating for
Speaker 2: a zimpic twoud?
Speaker 3: Sorry I have not seen that, but uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's an advocate for anything. Quite honestly,
Speaker 3: who's gonna take her word for it? You know me?
Speaker 1: At this point, man, unless she lost a bunch of
Speaker 1: weights on she's the man.
Speaker 3: What do you mean that's that's a good one well
Speaker 3: played one. So Tonight's film, I have a brief, uh,
Speaker 3: a brief trailer for everyone to watch. But before I
Speaker 3: do that, I want to do a couple of real
Speaker 3: fast plugs. Tomorrow Night Operations GCD Thursdays nine pm Eastern
Speaker 3: Standard times or whateverever that works Eastern ten times wrong. One.
Speaker 3: I got the Anatomy of Satanic Panic, Volume two, talking
Speaker 3: and unpacking the Satanic Panic in the real world, actual
Speaker 3: events that occurred, and around the non muppetized version of
Speaker 3: this fellow Michael lo Keina, who, much like Tonight's tale,
Speaker 3: took place in San Francisco. You can see the the
Speaker 3: Trans America building that's a weird name, the Pyramid, the
Speaker 3: Golden gate Bridge, and I got a little presidio billboard
Speaker 3: there for him too. And then Operations GCD Sundays not
Speaker 3: too far off from Tonight's tale either, because as you
Speaker 3: see here, Bob Cocaine Evans, I redid ghost Stories. I
Speaker 3: did this last Wednesdays, and I redid the ghost Stories logo,
Speaker 3: but did it Manson Family Murder style. So now miss
Speaker 3: Peggy's Sharon Tate, you know Caine, you know the Goucha's
Speaker 3: father's military US Army Intelligence officer Boss, the lead detective
Speaker 3: of the Idahoa four case's father was the pro to
Speaker 3: jay To Sharon Tate's US Army Intelligence father. They were
Speaker 3: he worked for him in the US Army Intelligence. So
Speaker 3: that's obviously a weird connection in one of these quote
Speaker 3: unquote six degrees of the Manson family murders. But then
Speaker 3: I got I couldn't do a good Nicholson. This is
Speaker 3: the best I got here on Nicholson on the left,
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson. I think Rum and Polanski turned out pretty well.
Speaker 3: And then I got Cocaine Bob. I love cocaine Bob. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I think, uh Charles Manson here
Speaker 3: turned out looking more like a a Doctor Seus's character
Speaker 3: than a muppet. But you know, I'll deal with it.
Speaker 3: Do it later.
Speaker 1: It looks like you got stretched out like Plato.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I'm not. I don't love it, but
Speaker 3: you can. I do love the Swatsika. I nailed that one.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's it's when I say I
Speaker 3: nailed it. That's accurate depiction of the actual Swatsika and
Speaker 3: processed Church simply he had on his own head in
Speaker 3: the exact you know, it's down to down to the details.
Speaker 3: When I'm saying, folks, tensing to details important here.
Speaker 2: The Guest Story show was super fun though.
Speaker 3: That was an amazing movie, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was somebody put that in the comments. Who
Speaker 2: I agree. I think it was a great episode.
Speaker 3: So as far so, I've applied that same concept kind
Speaker 3: of that story, you know, the plotline of these old
Speaker 3: men getting together telling them about this ghost story, and
Speaker 3: I've re envisioned it as these old men, you know
Speaker 3: in the Ghost Story being Sharon Tate that that they
Speaker 3: were responsible for her murdered decades earlier, just like in
Speaker 3: the film Ghost Story. So I'm just saying there's a
Speaker 3: lot of these things that when we see then I'm embedded.
Speaker 3: My point being is there's kind of even an esoteric
Speaker 3: aspect to these, you know, meta narratives that we see
Speaker 3: play out within these same cult groups, right, and they're
Speaker 3: embedded in these films.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's a nice film San Francisco serial Killers and Mike
Speaker 3: Myers who recently got associated with the CIA despite being Canadian.
Speaker 4: Right, So hey, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 3: Did y'all see that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I did not I did not know about that.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it came out in the Deady trial speaking
Speaker 3: of Idaho con because I assert that's part of the
Speaker 3: Debdi trial. It is part of Idaho. Contrary, his cellmates
Speaker 3: has been Sam Bank and Freed. They have the same attorneys,
Speaker 3: And Sam Bankman Freed bought out a small bank in
Speaker 3: rural Washington, forty five miles north of Washington State and
Speaker 3: University of Idaho campuses in the preceding years before the
Speaker 3: murders in eleven, thirteen, twenty twenty two. And the University
Speaker 3: of Idaho president has associations with those with that same
Speaker 3: FTX business dealings. So there's a lot of weird stuff
Speaker 3: going on there. But banking, Freed bought out a bank
Speaker 3: was doing a cash for crypto scam that he's basically
Speaker 3: walked on despite being charged for other things. He's walked
Speaker 3: on that thus far. And Diddy made an emergency stop
Speaker 3: in Idaho sharp before he got arrested. So weird shit
Speaker 3: going around this ditty trial tell you money, And it
Speaker 3: ain't just the GHB and the baby oil stuff. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of weird shit going on here.
Speaker 4: You know. Well, whenever it's that slippery, you have to
Speaker 4: watch yourself. What's up.
Speaker 3: You ain't kidding, You ain't kidding, literally slippy, right.
Speaker 1: You know that they're they're in deliberations on whether to
Speaker 1: dismiss all charges right now.
Speaker 3: And wow, that's what I'm saying. And then bankman Freed's
Speaker 3: trying to walk in a lot of his stuff too.
Speaker 4: Well, you know that base and all that got dropped.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, they have a way to get rid
Speaker 4: of things if they want to.
Speaker 1: Well, if you can part of the the.
Speaker 2: It's just part of the theater of it all. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's.
Speaker 3: Part of the national security state part of it. If
Speaker 3: you compare all this to Iran Contra and everybody walked
Speaker 3: there and you know the few that got brought up
Speaker 3: on charges that you know the ones that the ones
Speaker 3: that got charged are the ones that were blowing the whistles,
Speaker 3: so to speak, and that one of those people, one
Speaker 3: of those people comes up in tonight's plot line lending
Speaker 3: the roofs you often they were that mm hmmm, well
Speaker 3: it's the end. It's my favorite scene the tonight's film.
Speaker 3: And before I get too far, and I will do,
Speaker 3: we'll play the preview for folks who are unfamiliar, but
Speaker 3: it's my favorite scene when he starts going into that
Speaker 3: pentavert in his conspiracy theory as well, love it. That's
Speaker 3: that's when he starts his wife there, Mike Myers's character's
Speaker 3: mother in the film there, she says that he's quoting
Speaker 3: that Lendon the Rousse rubbish game. So London LaRouche was
Speaker 3: an associate of Oliver North and was starting to out
Speaker 3: both the Iran contray stuff and the Process Church specifically
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six. And what happened was then the
Speaker 3: US Attorney's Office hired the Processed Church's attorney, and then
Speaker 3: that guy, John Markham prosecuted lending the rouge for fraud.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot to that Larrooe stuff relative to
Speaker 3: the Process. And that's not the only process connection to
Speaker 3: tonight's tale.
Speaker 2: Only you JJ would have caught that shit.
Speaker 3: Oh you you ain't kidding, ma'am. So uh, this film
Speaker 3: came out well, I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 3: How I got interested in this film and my biggest
Speaker 3: takeaway there which I kind of already shared, So spoiler alert,
Speaker 3: processed stuff shocker. But we see Mike Myers, what is
Speaker 3: the Austin Powers Nedison's reaction to testimony did he trial
Speaker 3: about Mike Myers? I don't know what that means because
Speaker 3: that's not what the title was. I clicked on, but
Speaker 3: there was a The latest testimony in the ongoing trial
Speaker 3: of Seawan Combe's ak Puff Daddy in a federal court
Speaker 3: Manhattan revealed even more celebrities who were invited to attend
Speaker 3: Comb's parties. Damn it. I clicked on an article about
Speaker 3: the CIA. Comb's former assistant described setting up a private
Speaker 3: tour of the CIA for Myers as his former employee.
Speaker 3: So in some associations? Uh, for whatever reason here did
Speaker 3: he and Mike Myers are doing CIA tours together in
Speaker 3: and around the same associate activities at least right? What
Speaker 3: we also see some other characters mentioned here also mentioned
Speaker 3: in the trial. Madonna, Well it's not a shocker. Well
Speaker 3: that's true. But her her best friend is in tonight's film.
Speaker 2: M Who's her best picture?
Speaker 3: One of her best friends for many decades is in
Speaker 3: Debbie Masar. No, that's reading Cane Boyle. That that's a
Speaker 3: good one, sir. Debbie who Debbie.
Speaker 4: Masar Mazar's that lady.
Speaker 3: She played the girlfriend of Anthony La Palace's character.
Speaker 2: Oh at the diner, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The diner lady.
Speaker 5: The fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Madonna's She's with Madonna.
Speaker 3: Back then even too, That's what I'm saying and still today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you got to consider that. You have to look
Speaker 3: at that, because you know, then you look at Madonna,
Speaker 3: You're like, what is going on there? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: So much? Yeah, I'm not even just talking about her.
Speaker 3: Look at her family?
Speaker 4: Oh god, so many?
Speaker 3: What is going on here?
Speaker 1: What monsters? Right there?
Speaker 3: Isn't dude, That's the first thing I thought of, the
Speaker 3: first thing I thought of.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: First of all, their facelifts have got to have had
Speaker 4: some babies in them, because lately they all look normal. Again.
Speaker 4: Remember she looked like a cat a year ago.
Speaker 3: Remember, Can we agree that the individual on the left
Speaker 3: is a dude? Can we agree on that?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 3: Second of the left looks like Share. It's a young
Speaker 3: Share artists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, her name is the Lords.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't even because if we get started, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: A whole thing.
Speaker 1: On stage.
Speaker 3: Oh gross, I didn't diaper fell off.
Speaker 1: It depends on who you ask.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on who you ask Madonna, w
Speaker 2: spooky lie in face? That's funny.
Speaker 4: She was a spooky lion faces?
Speaker 3: Are them? Two youngsters on the Charlie's Their Own Program?
Speaker 3: You remember that she adopts two young black boys. You know,
Speaker 3: you know Africans from Africa. She's African, but she's South African.
Speaker 3: So that's what I made the difference there. She adopts
Speaker 3: two young African boys and sis, congratulations, you're an American
Speaker 3: and you're a girl. Now, oh that sucks.
Speaker 4: What if you want to be a boy?
Speaker 3: Right? Some pretty pretty princesses wow.
Speaker 4: Along with Megan's kids, Megan Fox's little girl boys. See
Speaker 4: them same thing.
Speaker 2: By the way they do it, non human almost they
Speaker 2: get like I get, We're.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're not. You're a child. You're so young, so
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about this. But listen, I'm
Speaker 4: getting older and I will not make my face aligne
Speaker 4: face first of all, and second of all, I don't
Speaker 4: know about poisons in my face either. I feel I
Speaker 4: might have an allergic reaction and die.
Speaker 2: But like you know, you're talking like boattos and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: None of that, none of I've done, none of that.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, Heidi, I think what
Speaker 2: they're doing goes beyond what's available to someone like you
Speaker 2: and I. Anyways, I don't think I think the pro
Speaker 2: beyond like your your traditional boatox here and there or
Speaker 2: like a little bit of that. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: they're doing some inhuman type stuff that we won't have
Speaker 2: access to ever.
Speaker 4: To beyond that we don't even understand.
Speaker 2: That we would, Yeah, that we were not even aware
Speaker 2: is an option at this.
Speaker 3: Just listen to what they say they do. They put
Speaker 3: like baby foreskin all over their face and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So Sandy B. Sandy B said that one she said that, well,
Speaker 4: that part.
Speaker 3: I think fox too. She also does weird blood stuff.
Speaker 3: If they if they admit to these things that theyre
Speaker 3: admitting to, what do they do behind closed doors?
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that they almost look at at
Speaker 2: stuff like boatox is like beneath them. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: save that for the peasants getting botox.
Speaker 1: Like you and I.
Speaker 2: Bro right, Like you and I would look at it
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, you know, I'm not really interested
Speaker 2: in boat toox. It's like a weird poison that people
Speaker 2: are injected into their face and they're like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't want that shit either.
Speaker 4: Give me. Yeah, they're like, yeah, you go get it.
Speaker 3: That's I don't disagree. It's definitely for the peasants. That's
Speaker 3: I mean, that is definitely going to be you know,
Speaker 3: it's the it's the class warfare of the matters, right,
Speaker 3: They're not going to do everything else to the lower
Speaker 3: people in society or I.
Speaker 5: Got cut out.
Speaker 2: I got cut out. But yeah, I think I think
Speaker 2: they're doing all kinds of weird stuff. I mean stuff
Speaker 2: that we will never think.
Speaker 4: You think they're trying to look like fallen angels, Julia,
Speaker 4: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: They're trying to look like. It's some type of like
Speaker 2: cartoon version, a bloated faced version of like it's like
Speaker 2: it's inhuman. Nobody's face actually.
Speaker 1: Looks like that all the same.
Speaker 3: Right, Like, you can look at a picture with car
Speaker 3: Fisher Late in Life, and you can look at a
Speaker 3: picture of you can look at a picture of Carrie
Speaker 3: Fisher in Later in Life and look at a picture
Speaker 3: of Bruce Channer and they look strikingly similar.
Speaker 2: Right after right, they even made a joke about it.
Speaker 2: My husband took me to go see The New twenty
Speaker 2: eight years later movie and they made it there.
Speaker 3: Huh, that's silly. And Murphy's is that that the star
Speaker 3: of that? Still the scarecrow?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You did you watch twenty eight days Later, the zombie movie?
Speaker 2: So I did, so this is like the sequel to
Speaker 2: that twenty eight years later. Basically it's like the sequel
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: But is he back in it?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: Silly? Murphy's the same, dude.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize anybody in the cast. I think it's
Speaker 2: like all new peeps. But anyways, I just found it
Speaker 2: funny because you know, it is a joke. And uh,
Speaker 2: I think that they they got stuff in their their
Speaker 2: creams and serums and stuff that they get from like
Speaker 2: children's hospitals. You know when they do this spia bivodous
Speaker 2: stuff and they reception off.
Speaker 4: That fluid.
Speaker 2: That's so yeah, it's the it's called spina biffitia something,
Speaker 2: and they put it in cosmetic products. So all these
Speaker 2: hospitals that are doing like all this good will stuff
Speaker 2: for the kids that are suffering from all these like
Speaker 2: horrible medical ailments, they're literally siphoning off like parts of
Speaker 2: their bodies and they included into cosmetic products.
Speaker 4: So you're talking about the final fluid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's like you said before, weird
Speaker 2: foreskin stuff and they all think it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: But there's always new ship. I've ever heard of this
Speaker 3: until the other day. If you're all heard of this,
Speaker 3: Heidi of vasper machine. It's some sort of new rehabilitation. No, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's for act. It's supposed to help them recover
Speaker 3: from muscles overnight, like you know, three times as quickly.
Speaker 4: And you know my husband's watching. Don't get any ideas, buff,
Speaker 4: I don't know. We're not doing that.
Speaker 3: Well I don't. I don't exactly. I haven't got it
Speaker 3: around my brain hole around exactly how it works. Well,
Speaker 3: this is the this is the next greatest thing in
Speaker 3: athletic training. So there's always something, Julia, you know, whether
Speaker 3: it's injecting stuff or doing stuff like this where there
Speaker 3: are people that you know that the masses or public
Speaker 3: don't know about.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what its like. It looks like a
Speaker 1: cross between a hove around and those stretchy weights what
Speaker 1: were they.
Speaker 3: Called the X or the oh Shinner's list, gotcha, No,
Speaker 3: the boat flex.
Speaker 1: It's above Oh yeah, and hove around remember the ho
Speaker 1: around commercials.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a there is a bow flex aspect
Speaker 3: of that. There's a both flex kind of resistance training.
Speaker 1: To that sounded just like Julia's grandmother.
Speaker 3: Just well, if without any further ado here, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: play a quick trailer and then we'll we'll go around
Speaker 3: table on what what you're what got you interested in
Speaker 3: this film originally and what was the biggest take what
Speaker 3: you saw you know after rewatching it today, you know
Speaker 3: through a newer lens, you know, many many years later,
Speaker 3: right from your initial viewings. Well, I don't know about
Speaker 3: what about when did you first see A Julia? Because
Speaker 3: I know I saw the theater. I Okana and Heidi
Speaker 3: Boat they saw it shortly after.
Speaker 2: Well before you played the trailer, I will say I
Speaker 2: was born in late ninety four, she.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I totally missed it. Obviously, I wasn't
Speaker 2: even born yet when this came out, But I watched
Speaker 2: it for the first time when you invited me to
Speaker 2: do this podcast. Oh no, no, it was brand new
Speaker 2: for me, and I actually have a lot to say
Speaker 2: about it after play the trailer because I have a
Speaker 2: crisp fresh view of this movie, like love it.
Speaker 3: I got two bras, you know. On that note, I
Speaker 3: I really I just watched The Ghostory again their day.
Speaker 3: You know, I had never watched it before last week's review,
Speaker 3: so I'm glad to hear that you also watched this
Speaker 3: for the first time to one of these GCD film reviews.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to get we'll watch. But I actually
Speaker 3: made there was a theatrical trailer, and then they didn't
Speaker 3: like it, and then they made another one and I
Speaker 3: say both of them, clip both of them for thirty
Speaker 3: seconds to get out the bulk of the whole the
Speaker 3: plot line. But it's also interesting to see that Mike
Speaker 3: Myers was quite a diva apparently on this set, and
Speaker 3: I want to make note of that and just want we.
Speaker 2: Go into it.
Speaker 4: Here, get my coffee peasants.
Speaker 3: Oh it's it's bad. Some of those tales are bad.
Speaker 3: They're real bad.
Speaker 1: Charlie Mackenzie has his poetry.
Speaker 3: This poem sucks his family.
Speaker 6: He look at the Sayson boys.
Speaker 3: He gonna give the boy a complex a.
Speaker 1: That's a huge noga and most of all his fears.
Speaker 1: I broke up with those girls for very good reasons.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, what about Pam? She smelled like soup?
Speaker 3: Then one day he met.
Speaker 1: Harriet.
Speaker 3: I'll never not laugh when someone within here that he
Speaker 3: broke up with a lady because she smelled like soup.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the most ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Reason, exactly like beef vegetable soup.
Speaker 2: They were used to that joke in and did you
Speaker 2: guys watch.
Speaker 4: You know too?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I've seen it, but it's been a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used that. They said that somebody smelled like soup,
Speaker 2: and then they compared her to her house to lipt
Speaker 2: in Landing. So I think it's always funny when somebody
Speaker 2: says somebody smells like soup, because you think it'd be
Speaker 2: a comforting smell. I love soup. Banera walk in and
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting embraced in a warm soupy hug.
Speaker 3: By a Nazi hug at that by the Nazis that
Speaker 3: owned the place.
Speaker 4: Right, No soup for you.
Speaker 1: I love soup maitani, please, that's that's the soup Nazis.
Speaker 3: Sir, he may he may have a job at Panera
Speaker 3: because they are owned by a literal Nazis. I'm not
Speaker 3: making that up. Big time Nazis. Yeah, they hire him
Speaker 3: and a harpy. They love Nazis over there. I had.
Speaker 1: She was a Canadian Japanese.
Speaker 3: Girl, and we got a next girl from Taylor Deck.
Speaker 1: I like it, not in a p h sort of way.
Speaker 3: You pardon the special tracking I'm dragging.
Speaker 1: He had a fishy smell. I just I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And she's smell like smell
Speaker 1: face like hamburger and steak.
Speaker 4: I'm with Julia on that one is better.
Speaker 2: Now did she.
Speaker 3: Possibly work in San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this case?
Speaker 4: Missus X?
Speaker 1: She murders her husband's on her hontmoon, then she changes
Speaker 1: her identity and marries again. I think I'm dating missus X.
Speaker 7: The Justice Department reports an alarming rise at the number
Speaker 7: of poisonings across the United States.
Speaker 1: It's a smart drink to improve your bring power.
Speaker 3: You like it, Charlie, thank you, no, thank you know
Speaker 3: we got we got the full scope of everything. We got.
Speaker 3: Beat Nick, a movie about beat Nick's venerating the Beatnik
Speaker 3: uh you know movement, which was the proto hippie movement,
Speaker 3: which literally the figures in that movement brought us the
Speaker 3: hippie movement out of Laurel Canyon, through the Summer of
Speaker 3: Love and Monterey and right into the hate and Ashbury, right,
Speaker 3: you know, with the Grateful Dad Michael Riccana shuddo. You
Speaker 3: know Charles Manson. I don't know why I thought about
Speaker 3: couldn't remember Charles Manson's name for sake, but the fact
Speaker 3: that we have all these parapolitical events to go right
Speaker 3: back to the same era that this movie is paying
Speaker 3: homage to, and it's a movie about a serial killer
Speaker 3: with some of old Cocaine Bob's friends in it. I'm
Speaker 3: a little concerned about some of these things when I
Speaker 3: look at these things later in life. But let's, uh,
Speaker 3: let's start our roundtable here, if you don't mind, Caine.
Speaker 3: We we kick us off here with when did you
Speaker 3: first discover this film? What was your interest in what's
Speaker 3: your biggest takeaway from your recent viewing?
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, JJ, it's all about the nookie, right. And
Speaker 1: So I had a girlfriend. She happened to be a
Speaker 1: Mormon from Park City. She was an Olympic downhill skier,
Speaker 1: and she broke her femur and he broke skiing, correct,
Speaker 1: and it ended her career. She was like a gold
Speaker 1: medal ice downhill.
Speaker 3: And I was broken, femer, that's gotta be rough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's kind of injured career. Huh.
Speaker 1: Her name was Tevika really I I connected with her
Speaker 1: a few years back again after twenty years. But she
Speaker 1: watched a lot of movies, listening to a lot of
Speaker 1: music while she was, you know, strapped up with the
Speaker 1: leg down, and so have you seen because she was
Speaker 1: quoting So I married an Axe murder all the time,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get it. She have seen it, and
Speaker 1: so we finally sat down and watched it. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that I necessarily would have thought it was
Speaker 1: funny had she not been so into it and and
Speaker 1: quoting everything from it all the time. But but once
Speaker 1: I heard everything in the movie, I'd heard her say
Speaker 1: it fifty times and it was it was just it
Speaker 1: blew my mind.
Speaker 3: And so that and so your girl got hooked Tom
Speaker 3: and the Burbs, the movie The Burbs Love. I said,
Speaker 3: so your extual girlfriend got you hooked Tom very much? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 3: Now the Urbs is a good one. We might have
Speaker 3: to do that one in the future.
Speaker 1: Would be a good one for it for the show.
Speaker 2: I think I've done a breakdown on the Burbs before,
Speaker 2: and there's so much stuff in there. You blow your
Speaker 2: packer right off.
Speaker 3: Don't really good time, don't do it. Don't do it
Speaker 3: real world.
Speaker 4: But yeah, are you a pretty girl?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 3: It puts the lotion on its skin? The what what
Speaker 3: was your biggest takeaway Kane from rewatching this now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Is this the first time you've seen it in the
Speaker 3: last twenty two years?
Speaker 1: I watched it today.
Speaker 3: I disregard thirty thirty two years. My apology, sir.
Speaker 1: I'm only twenty eight, so just like remember that you
Speaker 1: stop it.
Speaker 3: The most busted twenty eight year old. To do that,
Speaker 3: you must be twenty eight times.
Speaker 1: Too anyway, So yeah, I I also I like that
Speaker 1: area of San Francisco. Charmed is another uh production that
Speaker 1: comes from that exact area. I think they most the
Speaker 1: same house. It's the one with Lissa Milano and then
Speaker 1: series yep.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The other one that you like this the one that
Speaker 1: was in the cult, the Redheaded Girl. What's her name
Speaker 1: Rose McGowan.
Speaker 3: That's very interesting.
Speaker 1: That's very Piper from Charmed. If anybody out there who's
Speaker 1: Piper is that's my I guess she's my TV type.
Speaker 3: So so what was the connection was there's a connection
Speaker 3: between this film and Charmed it was filmed.
Speaker 1: I think that that final scene was filmed at the house,
Speaker 1: the Charmed house. I believe it's very iconic thing. I
Speaker 1: think that's like, it's near hate Nashbury, but it's I
Speaker 1: forgot the name of the road. It's really comic.
Speaker 3: I looked it up here. I mean I didn't pick
Speaker 3: up on that. I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 3: That's that's awesome. You already hit you already blew my
Speaker 3: brain hole with a Zach galifan Akis cameo in the
Speaker 3: in this film that I.
Speaker 4: Was I have some stuff to say about that house later.
Speaker 4: So don't into it to the house you.
Speaker 3: Never left him up. Oh yeah, So I'll look up
Speaker 3: some of that. And I know they show the full
Speaker 3: house home in this film. So I married ANX murderer.
Speaker 4: There's a lot on the house. There's some interesting stuff
Speaker 4: on the house that they filmed in mm hmm. That
Speaker 4: the one, the one I'm thinking of, the white one,
Speaker 4: the white one for me. He's talking about the one
Speaker 4: of the dad.
Speaker 3: I think, right, yeah, I'm just talking about you see
Speaker 3: the Full House, you know that scene you see in
Speaker 3: the beginning of Full House in that park, you see
Speaker 3: the facades of those games. You see that same scene
Speaker 3: in here, which is interesting because again that's another Bob
Speaker 3: Cocaine Evans factor right there, because that's who that's who
Speaker 3: produced Full House, and that's who owns is the friend
Speaker 3: of Bob's and that's who owns the Silo Drive property
Speaker 3: where the Manson family murders occurred at the Tate Planski home,
Speaker 3: and that's in that home today lives Marilyn Manson, who
Speaker 3: was the longtime boyfriend of Rose McGowan from Your Charms show,
Speaker 3: their friend.
Speaker 4: And that was the else that the dad was in,
Speaker 4: right or No, there's multiple houses. The White House where
Speaker 4: they got married is the house I'm talking about for later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't think this is. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's this house. So when I'm talking about, I
Speaker 3: don't think it's in the show. I don't think it was.
Speaker 3: Jesus the site. It was just showing in one of
Speaker 3: their scenes. I'll bring up a picture in a minute.
Speaker 3: But Ken, did you have any other anything else?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 3: Do you want to add to your your affinity for
Speaker 3: the film and or anything else you saw. Well, we'll
Speaker 3: get to.
Speaker 4: I.
Speaker 3: Actually I actually just door dash you. Some Hula Berger's
Speaker 3: are coming in a white a Lantra twenty fifteen, so
Speaker 3: don't worry. The driver's name is Brian. He's cool. Uh, Julia,
Speaker 3: how you doing? Man? I appreciate Uh, I appreciate joining
Speaker 3: us again. So what you I was a little surprised
Speaker 3: that you had just seen this, but I'm excited to
Speaker 3: hear about kind of your your initial I guess you
Speaker 3: don't really have a comparative analysis of when you first
Speaker 3: seenes it to now since she seen it once. But
Speaker 3: what was your biggest takeaway?
Speaker 2: Well, I have to say my husband has watched this
Speaker 2: movie several times and he was surprised that I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen it either. Uh, you know, after watching it, I'm
Speaker 2: surprised I hadn't seen it before now because oh, thank you,
Speaker 2: it's so funny. It's really really funny. There were multiple
Speaker 2: scenes where I laughed out loud, literally laughed out loud,
Speaker 2: and I actually was surprised because as a kind of
Speaker 2: like a two thousands kid, the only exposure I really
Speaker 2: ever got to Mike Myers was Austin Powers, and I
Speaker 2: thought he was like the ugliest person to ever walk
Speaker 2: the face of the earth, and in this movie he's
Speaker 2: so cute. I was like, when the fuck was Mike
Speaker 2: Myers like a handsome guy, you know, to even be
Speaker 2: able to play a main character like this, I was like,
Speaker 2: kind of taken back. It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a really good point, you know.
Speaker 2: Mike Myers is hilarious. I thought that the jokes were
Speaker 2: on point and the soundtrack was banging. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: changed anything about the movie. I thought it was perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I really enjoyed watching it. I think that they
Speaker 2: slipped some stuff in there, for sure, on multiple different levels,
Speaker 2: which we'll get to as we're breaking down the movie.
Speaker 2: But they they definitely slipped a lot of stuff in there,
Speaker 2: and I'm surprised that the movie didn't do better because
Speaker 2: it's absolutely hilarious. In my opinion, I agree, and I think.
Speaker 3: It was a kind of before it's time. It's kind
Speaker 3: of become a cult classic a little bit. It was
Speaker 3: very innovative, I think in regards to the way things
Speaker 3: were being shot comparatively speaking of the time, you know,
Speaker 3: and that was one of the things that became that
Speaker 3: issue with mister Mike Myers, the Diva. There was the
Speaker 3: director one to start doing all these he had He's
Speaker 3: every day he would set up a track to move
Speaker 3: the camera and do all these motion shots with the
Speaker 3: camera instead of just sitting in one spot, and Mike
Speaker 3: Myers would see the track and go right back to
Speaker 3: his trailer every day. So they had some some Mexican
Speaker 3: standoffs or I guess Canadian standoffs. He's Canadian. They have
Speaker 3: some Canadian standoffs over these matters. But it is interesting.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, there are parts of the
Speaker 2: movie I don't know, like the jokes would be like
Speaker 2: something that would be funny now even.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think it still plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, I really do. It's like I said,
Speaker 2: I literally laughed out loud out a couple of parts,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And this was kind of this was Mike Myers's
Speaker 3: big film between Wayne's World and Awesome Powers, and this
Speaker 3: is really the last time he plays Mike Myers, right,
Speaker 3: I mean every time after this he's always in the
Speaker 3: characters doing you know that weird love gur and whatever
Speaker 3: the fuck that was, you know, and so on the
Speaker 3: numerous aw some powers.
Speaker 2: He's got characters right, and like when I watched Austin Powers,
Speaker 2: I just you know, I loved the movies because I
Speaker 2: was a little kid when they weren't coming out, and
Speaker 2: I thought they were funny. But I never thought of
Speaker 2: him as like a regular guy that could like look
Speaker 2: normal and just like tell funny jokes. So I always
Speaker 2: looked at him as like fat Bastard's.
Speaker 3: Like, there you go. I'm glad you pointed that out,
Speaker 3: because so I made that same just on that same note,
Speaker 3: I kind of made note of that same thing. I
Speaker 3: rewatched it here, you know, and it reminds me of
Speaker 3: Peter Sellers. Back to the Manson family and people associated
Speaker 3: with that Ciellow Drive residence that is currently owned by
Speaker 3: the executive producer Full House Jeff Franklin and has been
Speaker 3: for thirty thirty one years, and Marilyn Manson was residing
Speaker 3: you back in it ninety three. Marilyn Manson's residing it today.
Speaker 3: You tell me what goes on there. I have no idea,
Speaker 3: but this is the full House home that I was
Speaker 3: just describing for.
Speaker 9: So I've got the history on it. It's super interesting,
Speaker 9: this home this one. Yeah, oh shit, Okay, I didn't
Speaker 9: really get too much in the properties I was. I
Speaker 9: got lost, to be quite honest with you, I lost.
Speaker 9: I got lost in these characters.
Speaker 3: Again. So when like you were saying, there, you know,
Speaker 3: Peter Seller's the panther, you know, he quit playing any
Speaker 3: character as Peter Sellers, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he just had a whole careers this pink panther thing,
Speaker 3: much like Mike Myers with his onslaught of characters after
Speaker 3: after this film. So this seemed like a very you know,
Speaker 3: transitional point for him in that regard. And you know, again,
Speaker 3: Peter Sellers was into some weird sexual stuff there in
Speaker 3: Ciela Drive in the Manson family business. I don't know
Speaker 3: what in there, but there's lots of stories and uh,
Speaker 3: he much like Elvis would hire security in the aftermath.
Speaker 2: Well, I will say one of my biggest takeaways that
Speaker 2: I noticed from this movie is this movie may not
Speaker 2: have done very well, but it reminded me a lot
Speaker 2: of the plot for Adam's family values, and that movie
Speaker 2: did great. So it just surprises me because so I
Speaker 2: married an Ax. Murder is way funnier actually than adams
Speaker 2: Family Values. But it has like the same plot of
Speaker 2: like the black widow weird thing.
Speaker 3: You mean to tell you mean to tell me that
Speaker 3: that mc hammer doing an Adams Family theme song rap
Speaker 3: and was not successful.
Speaker 2: I mean, more people know about Adam's Family Values than
Speaker 2: so I married an ax murderer, which surprises the dog
Speaker 2: shit out of me because this movie is actually funny.
Speaker 2: Adam's Family Values.
Speaker 3: Is I you know, it's just I yeah, no, I
Speaker 3: agree with you. And it came out roughly the same
Speaker 3: time that I was just double checking adams Family Values
Speaker 3: was November of ninety three versus July.
Speaker 2: Oh, and see they have like really similar plots. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, they sound like they were
Speaker 3: competing projects, right, mm hmm. So there's seven, that's not seven,
Speaker 3: says it's seven ten Ashbury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, with that one, Thank you dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's interesting you say that because I got
Speaker 3: my story's gonna focus around the grateful dad here in
Speaker 3: the moment. But before we do that, did Jeff something
Speaker 3: to say came for we let how to introduce what
Speaker 3: her interests and takeaway was.
Speaker 1: Sure, Julia, the when you when you think about it,
Speaker 1: all of those people from Saturday Night Live were like
Speaker 1: us over there, the misfits that they called themselves, the
Speaker 1: not ready for primetime players, and they all most of
Speaker 1: them came from sc TV, which was a small local
Speaker 1: channel in Chicago, and they it was like it was
Speaker 1: more like an acting school kind of you know, John Candy, uh,
Speaker 1: and you had a lot of Canadians that came out
Speaker 1: of there, and so they were they were the regular guy. Look,
Speaker 1: you know from Easy Money, you know we'll see bowling
Speaker 1: shirt Brown Maleman, Oxfords and that they're all the most
Speaker 1: unlikely characters. Chevy Chase probably one of the more handsome
Speaker 1: of the bunch. But then you have Dan ackroy did
Speaker 1: plenty of movies, you know, and John Candy. Obviously, somebody said,
Speaker 1: I just I thought i'd make that point.
Speaker 3: Dann Ackroyd, is this Tuesday's Tuesday Weld's friend who bought
Speaker 3: processed Churchy and Mama Cassa's house.
Speaker 1: Dude, come on, JJ, shimminy.
Speaker 2: We found that out on the ghost Story episode and
Speaker 2: about started my period and I was so upset.
Speaker 3: My brainhole because here's the thing he obviously frames he
Speaker 3: uses the imagin childbook.
Speaker 4: I don't want that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not good. Started ovulating these are the magical
Speaker 3: child bookstores. His basis for raised the cult bookshop in
Speaker 3: the Ghostbusters films, which is the same books church related bookstory.
Speaker 5: I want.
Speaker 2: I want to get to Heidi. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: say this really really quick. Bill Murray looks and acts
Speaker 2: like he's probably an asshole in real life. Dan Ackroyd
Speaker 2: has always been some kind of a sacred cow to
Speaker 2: me where I've always thought he's such a stand up guy,
Speaker 2: no nonsense guy.
Speaker 4: He's so cool.
Speaker 2: He's into all this esoteric paranormal stuff. I love the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: He's so funny. To find out that he could have
Speaker 2: like sinister links to stuff, or that he's really a
Speaker 2: douchebag in real life. I mean, I almost felt like
Speaker 2: I needed to like go on a fasting journey with
Speaker 2: my heart and just like reconfigure life. I've just I've
Speaker 2: always loved him so much.
Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 2: Somebody said they ran into dan ackroid while he was
Speaker 2: drunk and he was an asshole.
Speaker 3: I had, I had. I had a very similar experience
Speaker 3: when I discovered the Grateful Dad was a CIA Front
Speaker 3: operations because I was was we'll get to it after Heidi.
Speaker 3: One of my biggest interests in this film was at
Speaker 3: the very same time this film came out and I
Speaker 3: had just gotten into the Dead So in Heidien, what
Speaker 3: what did you what? Do you what? What did you
Speaker 3: get interested in this one about back in July of
Speaker 3: ninety three? And what did you take away recently? When
Speaker 3: when seeing it a game.
Speaker 4: I was a huge fan of Mike Myers back then,
Speaker 4: so I literally was so excited to see this movie
Speaker 4: back in the day with my ex husband. You that
Speaker 4: that part's not a great memory, but right we went
Speaker 4: and saw.
Speaker 3: That that doesn't sound like that doesn't sound like a
Speaker 3: good a good takeaway. That's when the least at the theater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that part wasn't good. But I will say
Speaker 4: this is a movie that me and my kids have
Speaker 4: watched so much that we literally quote it all the time.
Speaker 4: My one daughter's boyfriend, he doesn't do movies, and he's
Speaker 4: always like, what the hell are you people talking about?
Speaker 4: Not do I know?
Speaker 2: I know we did the movieotes is he an NC person?
Speaker 4: Should He doesn't have an internal He does not have
Speaker 4: an internal monologue?
Speaker 2: Fuck away from him. He's a cyber.
Speaker 4: He I'm sweet, you know, but he doesn't have the
Speaker 4: internal monologue for sure. He thinks we're crazy because we do.
Speaker 2: He's like, what, oh yeah, weird crazy Okay.
Speaker 4: I know, Sad. I was like, what, you don't really
Speaker 4: I had never met somebody that really didn't have it.
Speaker 3: But I love that. I love movies. I love I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, there's probably not a perse that goes by
Speaker 3: Wheky and I aren't you know, Shindler's lists to each
Speaker 3: other or some other movie references. So and I'm sure
Speaker 3: you all see me because you all have known me
Speaker 3: for film reviews, see me how much I love film
Speaker 3: by you know, seeing how much knowledge I have on
Speaker 3: the subject, I'm sure, Yeah, I love them.
Speaker 4: I just now watching it. It's different. It's so different
Speaker 4: when you see all the things they slip in and
Speaker 4: like all of the new stuff. You're like, wow, you
Speaker 4: know how like Julia was saying, she like heard he
Speaker 4: was an asshole and that her like literally, and you
Speaker 4: do like if you meet if you hear something or
Speaker 4: you meet somebody and they disappoint you. Largely, that's why
Speaker 4: they say don't meet your heroes, right, because you're like, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: so but nowadays, yeah, I have a lot to say
Speaker 4: on it. I think it's very interesting on some of
Speaker 4: the things that were put out even back then with
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories, and that goes straight to the Panta ruts.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad you said that. So that's you said.
Speaker 3: You said, you quote a lot of things, and you
Speaker 3: you uh, you know, the very memorable scenes and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like your first interest was it was
Speaker 3: along these lines. Was it along these lines of the
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories? Maybe not when you first Again, when I
Speaker 3: saw it, was that a big takeaway for you?
Speaker 4: For me, it was just all funny. Like back then,
Speaker 4: you have to remember I wasn't the same person, so
Speaker 4: back then I didn't think anything of it. But now,
Speaker 4: back then I was just like, that was so great,
Speaker 4: and I couldn't believe that nobody liked it. I was like,
Speaker 4: what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I can't believe nobody liked this. But it's so funny, I.
Speaker 4: Thought, right, yeah, they really shot it down, and it
Speaker 4: is low key funny unless it's like certain parts like
Speaker 4: with the dad and stuff. He's actual funny. But you know,
Speaker 4: the little things always got me. I mean I always
Speaker 4: just thought it was the little things, not you know,
Speaker 4: had go get my pants like that's hilarious. But there's
Speaker 4: other things that are really funny that.
Speaker 2: When they go tour the prison. Oh my god, poor philarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are describing me some of my favorite comedy
Speaker 3: scenes in ninety cinema right now. And on that note,
Speaker 3: I can't And well you mentioned the prison scene would
Speaker 3: do us no justice unless we played Phil clows it up. Yes, yes, there,
Speaker 3: close it up, clows it up.
Speaker 7: Now, this is something the other tour guys won't tell you.
Speaker 7: In this particular cell block machine Gun, Kelly had what
Speaker 7: we call in the prison system a bitch, and one night,
Speaker 7: in a jealous rage, they took a makeshift knife or
Speaker 7: ship and cut out the bitch's eyes.
Speaker 1: I knew another thing about hard.
Speaker 7: And as if this wasn't enough retribution for Kelly, the
Speaker 7: next day he and four other inmates took turns pissing
Speaker 7: into the bitches ocular cavitys.
Speaker 3: This way to the cap, this way to the gafeteria.
Speaker 3: You can't beat that part of love.
Speaker 1: Hartman Man, he was the best.
Speaker 2: He slaid, He.
Speaker 4: Was slade, He was slaid but he was another.
Speaker 2: Another Laurel Canyon tie in. By the way, Phil Hartmon.
Speaker 3: You he was classic of that dead Panda immediately switching
Speaker 3: into comedy mode, right like, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 3: dead Pan, he you know, and he killed it there
Speaker 3: when he's like telling about president you know, the ocular
Speaker 3: you know, sockets of the you know, the bitch, and
Speaker 3: then one of the cafeteria folks you know, I mean cavities.
Speaker 2: I did want to say two things I saw in
Speaker 2: the comments just now. Somebody mentioned Mike Myers being Shrek
Speaker 2: loved Shrek. Forgot about that. And then somebody said strange
Speaker 2: stuff regarding Phil Hartman's murder. I covered that actually in
Speaker 2: my Laurel Canyons series because they say that his wife
Speaker 2: did it. But there's no fucking way there. It's like
Speaker 2: all messed up, covered up, weird stuff. And yeah, there
Speaker 2: is a lot of strange stuff regarding Phil Hartman's murder
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: So Heidi, did you you know, did you did you
Speaker 3: get super annoyed out by you didn't? So you weren't
Speaker 3: into conspiracy theories all in this regard When.
Speaker 4: I was a m yeah, I was true blue Mormon
Speaker 4: back then. I wasn't probably supposed to see that movie.
Speaker 3: I was too, but like you know, I had I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe I'm just maybe I always been a
Speaker 3: bit annoyed. But I blame the Mormons for it because
Speaker 3: they were, you know, the world's a conspiracy type of deal, right,
Speaker 3: the world's the devil, right, well, at least of the world,
Speaker 3: but not in the world right.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they and and they know that they're the ones
Speaker 4: that only are important, you know, very elitism.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but just from a philosophical understanding of what
Speaker 3: how I was perceiving their their teachings at that age
Speaker 3: when I was thirteen getting the priesthoods, right, so that's
Speaker 3: my first priesthood and and and so I get my
Speaker 3: first priests the same year. I'm I'm kind of my
Speaker 3: my mind is going from bigfoots and aliens and Lock
Speaker 3: not walk neest monster, but Champ the monster in Lake
Speaker 3: Champlain where I grew up in Vermont. There every summer
Speaker 3: I literally.
Speaker 4: Would have said it was bullshit. I was so I
Speaker 4: was the Alex P. Keaton of my family because I was.
Speaker 3: Bullshit of the conspiracies for bullshit in the film that
Speaker 3: he was describing, Oh, I was told. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's interesting. I gotta know more about this.
Speaker 4: Yep, Nope, I was like the how stupid he is?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, so I was already into weird shit, you know.
Speaker 3: It was just like and then this was a whole
Speaker 3: new list of weird shit that he named off for
Speaker 3: me in this film. And if we we without any
Speaker 3: further Ado again, this is my favorite scene from the
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties for many reasons, the least of which of
Speaker 3: my conspiracy theory activities around it, but then also.
Speaker 1: Just the hilarity that ensues here he's giving to Lindon's
Speaker 1: runnish again.
Speaker 10: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jump. There's a
Speaker 10: secret society if the five wealthiest people in the world,
Speaker 10: known as the Pantat, who run everything in the world,
Speaker 10: including the newspapers and me triannually as a secret country
Speaker 10: mansion in Colorado, not adds the meadows.
Speaker 5: So who's in this pantherrood, the Queen, the.
Speaker 10: Vote, the Getty's, the lost Child's I'm Colonel Saunders. Before
Speaker 10: he went Tet's up. I hated the colonel with his
Speaker 10: wee bed eyes.
Speaker 5: I'm a smug lick on his face.
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna buy my.
Speaker 10: Chicken and oh that how can you hate the kernel
Speaker 10: because he puts an addictive chemic colors chicken that makes
Speaker 10: you cleave it fortnitely, smarters.
Speaker 1: Interesting, cool.
Speaker 3: Means great. That is a great scene.
Speaker 2: I actually have found your conspiracy stuff I have on
Speaker 2: that fantaver after actually.
Speaker 3: Okay myself, Yeah, let's hold it. I just want to
Speaker 3: play the scene party. We'll watch it again. Trust me,
Speaker 3: that's my favorite scene. Absolutely, let's hold that. Unpack that
Speaker 3: scene here when when we get to the details of it.
Speaker 3: But you know that is if I may add, my
Speaker 3: biggest takeaway is from that scene when we when we
Speaker 3: watching it, I was like, you know what, there's a
Speaker 3: process factor to this because again that that Linden the
Speaker 3: rouche rubbish nonsense as she says, right, so this is
Speaker 3: again Linden the rush was part of Iran conc. Were
Speaker 3: friends with all over North and he starts in whistle
Speaker 3: blowing everybody, including the processed Church, and then the processed
Speaker 3: Church's attorney, John Markham gets hired by the US Attorney's
Speaker 3: office by Tuesday, Weld's cousin Bill Weld, and then they
Speaker 3: prosecute Lyndon the roosh.
Speaker 2: So crazy, how that ties back? I didn't even catch that.
Speaker 3: Do you know where John Markham lived at this time?
Speaker 3: Where in the nineties? In nineteen ninety two when this
Speaker 3: film was made, John Markham lived in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Damn JJ coming in with the bar.
Speaker 3: That was my biggest takeaway there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But when this movie first came out, like I said,
Speaker 3: I was just getting into weird shit. Oh I'm sorry, Hoy,
Speaker 3: did you have any more Did you have any more
Speaker 3: comments on your biggest takeaway there from.
Speaker 4: Your Oh no, no, no, just on the the regular
Speaker 4: stuff later. No, No, I'm good.
Speaker 3: You got some real barn burners on these homes. I'm
Speaker 3: glad y'all looked at that because I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: get to my analysis anywhere on the properties there, but
Speaker 3: I do look forward to it. So when I was
Speaker 3: thirteen when that movie came out, you know, it was
Speaker 3: just like I said, I had just gotten a priesthood
Speaker 3: in the Mormon business, and was, you know, getting interested
Speaker 3: in different ideas then longer monsters and aliens and stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, these conspiratorial topics I found out about
Speaker 3: from this film, right and obviously not processed church. That's
Speaker 3: more recent stuff, but you know, the idea of this
Speaker 3: Illuminati or Pentavern type of deal. But and then San
Speaker 3: Francisco was quickly becoming my favorite thing in life because
Speaker 3: I just discovered The Grateful Dead the year prior, the
Speaker 3: summer prior, and I had this giant poster covering an
Speaker 3: entire wall of my bedroom. I mean he was like
Speaker 3: seven foot by like five feet or some nonsense. And
Speaker 3: you know, so that movie came out, I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is I think, I really think it
Speaker 3: is this one moment in my life where I literally
Speaker 3: fell in love with the city of San Francisco because
Speaker 3: I've spent a lot of time in that city. Two
Speaker 3: of my brothers, my dudes from the Air Force, my
Speaker 3: fellow garbage can dudes. They they live out just north
Speaker 3: and south of there. So we we usually convene on
Speaker 3: San Francisco every year for many years and uh till
Speaker 3: you know, for our garbage can do invasions and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But I you know, between The Grateful Dead and you
Speaker 3: know a lot of other factors, this this film and
Speaker 3: other things, I've had a great interest there in the
Speaker 3: city of San Francisco, and I've spent a lot of
Speaker 3: time there. Never lived there, but spent a lot of
Speaker 3: time there. So this, this film has always had a
Speaker 3: special place for me as a result of those kind
Speaker 3: of factors, because again, that came out right at the
Speaker 3: same time I just really discovered San Francisco. So and
Speaker 3: it's uh, I would call this the best San Francisco film.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on a lem and say that that.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a number of good ones. You know.
Speaker 3: Zodiac was a good one, right, you know, I think
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, maybe even American Graffiti could be
Speaker 3: considered in that in that department.
Speaker 2: But American Graffiti, Holy shit, dude, that's one of my
Speaker 2: all time favorite movies in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And film, Yeah, well it's.
Speaker 2: Ars Mackenzie Phillips. H how hello Mama's.
Speaker 3: Wasn't she thirteen?
Speaker 2: She was thirty and we all know about her and
Speaker 2: her pasted with her little incestuous stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh holy shit, you just you just blew up my
Speaker 3: brain hole because I took a note something earlier on
Speaker 3: the same topic that I totally forgot about, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if it exists anymore, but I pulled up
Speaker 3: something connecting this film George Hodell and something else you
Speaker 3: just mentioned Mackenzie. Well, it was actually written by Steve Hodell.
Speaker 3: Whatever this blog post was his son. So Steve Hodell's
Speaker 3: sister would later take in Mackenzie Phillips after she's been
Speaker 3: getting deal by her dad. Right, because she and because
Speaker 3: Steve Hodell's sister, daughter of George Hodell, the alled just
Speaker 3: to Black Dalli murdered by his own son, the former
Speaker 3: San Francisco police detective. Well, you know, so there's your
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Phillips black Dollia connection. Right, There.
Speaker 2: Wasn't Black Dahlia murdered in and around the San Francisco
Speaker 2: area or would have.
Speaker 3: Been lost Los Ange Angels man, Los.
Speaker 2: Angeles, I believe George Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Well, here's a Bob Cocaine Evans connection. I believe George
Speaker 3: Hodell was living in the infamous Frank Lloyd right Mayan
Speaker 3: home at the time, at home that would be occupied
Speaker 3: by Bob Cocaine Evans.
Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Well, there was a direct connection to Bob's crew and
Speaker 3: that crew. So John John Houston, his protege was Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 3: That was Bob. Bob's bffy. You may recognize him here
Speaker 3: in this picture as the muppet on the left, the
Speaker 3: far left muppet, it'd be Jack Nicholson. You know, that
Speaker 3: was her crew muppet, you know, the green Muppet. That's
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson next to Bob Cocaine Evans none other than
Speaker 3: Charles Manson. But yeah, that's an interesting connection though. You
Speaker 3: see these Mackenzie Phillips connections right with the American Graffuite,
Speaker 3: she's going into the same again. It's a it's a
Speaker 3: we're look, we're piecing things together from the outside looking in,
Speaker 3: and we're we're describing things somewhat disparately in doing so
Speaker 3: with these parapolitical matters, and it's a lot more I
Speaker 3: think that what we're discovering over time and more information
Speaker 3: and analyzing these things, Julia, is that in Heidi both
Speaker 3: and we often discuss these parapolitical matters, that it's becoming
Speaker 3: a smaller, smaller circle of folks, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's not a huge network.
Speaker 2: That, sir, is the truest statement of the evening, especially
Speaker 2: like when you really like with the stuff you've been
Speaker 2: doing with the Cocaine Bob, and then when we talked
Speaker 2: about OJ, when we talked about I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: they keep showing up these assholes like they're punching a
Speaker 2: time clock or something. It's like, Okay, let me check
Speaker 2: into this fucking weird thing that I shouldn't have anything
Speaker 2: to do with.
Speaker 3: I appreciate with your heads out there, Julia, because you
Speaker 3: just gave me a nice plug for next Wednesday's operations.
Speaker 3: GCD Live and Esoteric and Occult film review of the
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven cinematic masterpiece Lethal Weapon, which the plotline
Speaker 3: of that film describes Bill Colby's wet dreams come home.
Speaker 3: So Bill Colby, the CIA director, invents Operation Gladio. He
Speaker 3: invents the Phoenix program, the program to kill assassins. He
Speaker 3: invents the Air American drug trafficking, all part of the
Speaker 3: Material Assistance comand of Vietnam, all brought to you by
Speaker 3: Bill Colby. And Bill Colby's son just happened to be
Speaker 3: the one of the primary witnesses for the State of
Speaker 3: California against the case of murder of Nicole Brown Simpson
Speaker 3: and Ron Goldman in the case against Warrenthal James Simpson.
Speaker 3: So why is Carl Colby one of the primary witnesses
Speaker 3: and why is he living next door to a drug
Speaker 3: trafficking operation when the cole Brown Simpson and a manager
Speaker 3: of the mafia Italian restaurants that owned Italian restaurants that
Speaker 3: Goldman worked at. Why is Carl Coleby? Well, it's always
Speaker 3: goes back to Colby here, So that's going to be
Speaker 3: next week, folks. But I appreciate the the endadvertanty and
Speaker 3: up that for me.
Speaker 2: Any time?
Speaker 1: So can I can I add?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna play?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was actually for some someone.
Speaker 3: Does this one go out to the one you love?
Speaker 1: What you're saying, it's lesson to me. Don't touch a gray, nobody.
Speaker 3: I love touching gray. That was the uh grateful Dad's
Speaker 3: only number one or no, only top ten hits.
Speaker 1: Strangely enough, well, I think, uh, Casey Jones charted also,
Speaker 1: but I don't. It didn't get number one for sure.
Speaker 1: Van Halen also never had a number one until eighty four.
Speaker 3: You stop it, sir. Casey Jones did never made a chart.
Speaker 1: It must have been somewhere on the billboard. As far
Speaker 1: as classic well.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoy them.
Speaker 1: I enjoy that, but I wanted to add one more
Speaker 1: film to the mix. As far as San Francisco goes
Speaker 1: and there's probably a couple in his repertoire but missed
Speaker 1: out are obviously there?
Speaker 3: You go, you're gonna say that, And I.
Speaker 1: Also know that you have some beef on that one
Speaker 1: too well.
Speaker 2: I mentioned it in our previous episode when we covered
Speaker 2: the Ghost Story movie because the main character that Robin
Speaker 2: William portrays is based on a real life person who
Speaker 2: is molesting babies at the McMartin.
Speaker 1: Preschool, So exact exact replica, r.
Speaker 2: Exact replica, down to down to the ear rings, necklace.
Speaker 2: Everything about the person is so I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: they it's like a hilarious joke to them. Missus doubtfire
Speaker 2: is a baby rapist from McMartin in the San Francisco area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she looks. I know right. It's isn't it crazy
Speaker 3: how identical that is when you when you make that
Speaker 3: a personals get out of town. That's that's spot on.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the side by side on that JJ
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I'll pull it up in a second. Do you know
Speaker 3: who did not prosecute that case? That would be Ira Reiner,
Speaker 3: Charles Manson's friend, personal friend.
Speaker 2: Also somehow connected with oj.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's he brought he was part of the propaganda campaign
Speaker 3: on the media. Yeah, when when we first started seeing
Speaker 3: on that propaganda campaign, what didn't mean to do that?
Speaker 3: We first started seeing all that propaganda campaign of you know,
Speaker 3: the OJ did it like we're seeing with Brian Coberger
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, Ira Reiner was one of those first
Speaker 3: media pundits out there. Yeah, he just got out of
Speaker 3: the DA's office. Uh, here we go, Well, look bring
Speaker 3: up that quick comparison there. Let's here's that George Hodel
Speaker 3: Herb Kane Zodiac and the San Francisco Chronicle connection. So
Speaker 3: we see the San Francisco Chronicle comes up here in
Speaker 3: this film. That is the big part of that Zodiac tale,
Speaker 3: right in Herbkane. Herb Kane, the editor who's part of
Speaker 3: that whole Zodiac situation, right, the letters and the whole
Speaker 3: situation back there in sixty nine that was going on
Speaker 3: at the same time as the Anti Family murders down
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. This is San Francisco simultaneously speaking. But Herb
Speaker 3: Kane's the guy who invinced the word beatnick Ooh.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, my theory on the Zodiac is
Speaker 2: that it was potentially multiple assailants, but one of them
Speaker 2: had to be Michael Lochino.
Speaker 3: We can get onto that conversation later, ma'am. There definitely
Speaker 3: is a team of assailants. I went over one of
Speaker 3: those assailants, the man in the hood at Lake Berriesa,
Speaker 3: this past Sundays on my Operation GCD Sundays, the case
Speaker 3: of Edward Wayne Edwards, because the man on September twenty seventh,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty nine, wearing what appears to be an alistair
Speaker 3: curley like magical hood doing filming what appears to be
Speaker 3: a snuff film on the shores of Lake Barriesa in
Speaker 3: the murder of one young woman and the attempted murder
Speaker 3: of a man. That man would go on to describing
Speaker 3: great detail in the report filed by the Napa County
Speaker 3: Sheriff's Office, because folks want to shitcoat this today filed
Speaker 3: by the Napa County Sheriff's Office, and the statements made
Speaker 3: by the man hood all happened to ever win Edwards life,
Speaker 3: just they happened in nineteen fifty nine, not in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine. He escaped the Deer Lodge prison in Montana.
Speaker 3: That's a very specific thing to say. He killed a guard.
Speaker 3: There was two guards killed when everyone. Edwards escaped that
Speaker 3: prison in nineteen fifty nine and stole a card and
Speaker 3: headed to Mexico. That was the next two statements by
Speaker 3: the man on the Hood. He was stole a car
Speaker 3: and was headed to Mexico. So it's definitely a team.
Speaker 3: And ever Win Edwards, I assure you was on that team.
Speaker 3: He's the most diabolical serial killer in American history and
Speaker 3: one most folks probably never heard of.
Speaker 2: Well that's a great I mean, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: I do think one of them was Michael Lochino, at
Speaker 2: least for the taxi cab driver.
Speaker 3: There's a strong argument for a lot of these things. Man.
Speaker 3: I agree, and I we're happy to have these conversations
Speaker 3: with you on the Future show. But you're spot on
Speaker 3: with the team of Zodiacs for sure. And if I
Speaker 3: have two more quick notes on that the if you've
Speaker 3: noticed one quick note, I'm sorry if you notice one
Speaker 3: of the things that the Zodiac wrote his letters that
Speaker 3: he got his rocks off killing killing folks and Edward.
Speaker 3: When Edwards to date, in any cold cases, his DNA
Speaker 3: has never come up. The only time is DNA came
Speaker 3: up was in two thousand and nine, his daughter was
Speaker 3: watching a television program on investigat investigation Discovery. I believe
Speaker 3: it was cold case murder that occurred in Wisconsin back
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty, twenty nine years prior, and she says
Speaker 3: she saw it. She immediately recognized that was a town
Speaker 3: that she lived in at the time, that her father
Speaker 3: took her to that exact field where the murder occurred,
Speaker 3: and that they fled town in the days after that.
Speaker 3: She calls those law enforcement authorities up there, she gives
Speaker 3: her DNA. It comes as a match to a seaman
Speaker 3: staying left on a pair of jeans and the female
Speaker 3: victim that apparently at Edwards Edward, when Edwards he got
Speaker 3: his rocks off killing folks, just like the Zodiac said,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't. There was no rape, it was he
Speaker 3: never raped anybody, was there. His crimes were never sex,
Speaker 3: He never raped anybody. They were almost always lovers lanes,
Speaker 3: almost always just like the Zodiac. Mhm, So a lot
Speaker 3: to be said with ed I think he's more of
Speaker 3: a general in this whole outfit of a hand of
Speaker 3: death cult type situation, you know, not getting too far
Speaker 3: off top, because we are talking about serial killers tonight,
Speaker 3: and San Francisco. But the tales of Henry Lee Lucas
Speaker 3: and Otis Tool, I would argue, are really the machinations
Speaker 3: of a network that every when Edwards ran and every
Speaker 3: time he was in prison, the murder rate went down
Speaker 3: in America.
Speaker 2: So just saying that's so interesting.
Speaker 3: And he knew Charles Manson, and he knew Otis Tool,
Speaker 3: and he he knew a lot of he knew a
Speaker 3: lot of folks.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I was just going to say, well,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them knew each other.
Speaker 5: I think they were.
Speaker 2: There was like some kind of weird Sandman convention every
Speaker 2: year where they all fucking met up in compared notes
Speaker 2: and shit.
Speaker 3: But you ain't kidding. You ain't kidding, because in two
Speaker 3: thousand and three they had a Zodiac conference at San
Speaker 3: Francisco where the guy that held it, the Zodiac Killer,
Speaker 3: would show up. There's a guy pictured in those photographs
Speaker 3: at that conference. It looks identical to ever Win Edwards,
Speaker 3: and he's sitting next to Charles Manson's friend Larry Milton.
Speaker 2: So well, they always have these conferences, right, It's like
Speaker 2: they have the Ted Bundy conference and then had they
Speaker 2: love to do that stuff.
Speaker 3: But take note of what we're discussing here, right, San
Speaker 3: Francisco serial killers, right, and the Zodiacs killing in sixty
Speaker 3: nine at the same time the Mansons killing in Los
Speaker 3: Angeles is sixty nine. And Ed knew Charles. They known
Speaker 3: these verses fifty two. Him and Manson were Friendsance fifty
Speaker 3: two and they were on a prison on a mound
Speaker 3: in Ohio at Chilikalthy Federal Reformatory, and he knew so
Speaker 3: obviously it seems like he may have known Larry Melton.
Speaker 3: So Larry Meltain is celebrating seemingly with the portion of
Speaker 3: the Zodiac killer guys. He's part of the Manson team
Speaker 3: and they're all celebrating a Zodiac conference in this photograph
Speaker 3: in two thousand and three. It's kind of sick if
Speaker 3: you look at it that way, but that's the way
Speaker 3: I look at it.
Speaker 7: Mm.
Speaker 3: So when we talk about serial killers and they all
Speaker 3: know each other, you know, I think that should be
Speaker 3: considered because it is this you were talking. We were
Speaker 3: talking Laurel Canyon, and I know Kane is a big musician,
Speaker 3: so he's all about some of this Laurel Canyon stuff.
Speaker 3: We've discussed that as well on his show, right King
Speaker 3: the Laurel Canyon, the whole fake music scene that the
Speaker 3: military kind of syop scene, right.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go with fake. I would go with sort
Speaker 1: of manufactured by by Providence. Those military leaders were based
Speaker 1: out of those operations. They were operations were based out
Speaker 1: of that area. Their kids grew up there. They it
Speaker 1: was kind of a time when there was a lot
Speaker 1: of open doorness for they were I would more say
Speaker 1: along the lines of they were kind of the bastard childs.
Speaker 1: They were the outcasts of their family. And and they actually,
Speaker 1: you know, all got together and created great music that
Speaker 1: can't be denied, and it found more great music. And
Speaker 1: so I think that Hendrix and the Eagles made great music.
Speaker 3: I would pipe the wall sounded.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that they weren't just like cool guys that
Speaker 2: got together.
Speaker 1: Sound had nothing to do with the Eagles. They never
Speaker 1: played on an Eagles record. They maybe the Beach Boys
Speaker 1: and the Monkeys, But when and the Doors, they made
Speaker 1: their own music. Ragman Eric was a brilliant writer and
Speaker 1: keyboard there.
Speaker 3: I won't just speak on the Doors.
Speaker 1: But wounded voices like Linda Ronstad and they're all c
Speaker 1: I A, but look at ook. Okay, here's a good example.
Speaker 11: Hot, Wait one second, Janis Joplin was completely disassociated with
Speaker 11: her family in Texas, right.
Speaker 2: And so she says, I don't believe any of that
Speaker 2: stuff though anything. Yeah, I don't believe anything that they've
Speaker 2: said about any of that. They lie constantly, and we're
Speaker 2: just supposed to believe whatever bullshit story that. Oh, Jim
Speaker 2: Morrison said his dad was dead and he and he
Speaker 2: communed with Native American spirits, like fucking way, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't believe any of that, if.
Speaker 3: I'm if I made it on your analysis of how
Speaker 3: these folks started their Laurel Kenyon because it is relevant
Speaker 3: to Tonight's tale. That's that is the reason why I
Speaker 3: brought it up. It may seem like a tangent, but
Speaker 3: Tonight's tale again is the Beatniks. And again herb camee
Speaker 3: from the the Chronicle there in San Francisco. He coins
Speaker 3: the term beatnik, and the Beatniks are these proto hippie
Speaker 3: movements that this move now Laurel Canyon moves up to
Speaker 3: Monterey for the music festival. Well, it's birthed out of
Speaker 3: Laurel Canyon. All these bands, so these early bands came
Speaker 3: I would again, I would dispute that the Birds. Again,
Speaker 3: I know you're saying, you're pointing out some some musically
Speaker 3: talented folks like Raymondserican Gang. I'm you know, it's fine,
Speaker 3: But what I'm getting at is the the movement started
Speaker 3: in a manner that was manufactured, where all these people
Speaker 3: were shipped into that location. They're all that their parents
Speaker 3: weren't stationed out there, right like Gail Slopeman, Frank Zappa's wife. Again,
Speaker 3: I know the movement became something different, And I honestly
Speaker 3: don't know the Eagles publishing book other than that they
Speaker 3: have Anton Levy apparently in one of their album covers
Speaker 3: in Hotel, California, but they they all move out there.
Speaker 3: Phil Spector's Wall of Sound is is the band for
Speaker 3: the Beach Boys. They seemingly some Beatles albums. I don't
Speaker 3: know about Hendricks for certain. Definitely the Birds, Crosby, Stills
Speaker 3: and Nash. I mean, this is the music that we
Speaker 3: hear on those albums. The Mamas and the papas you know,
Speaker 3: he most of the processed bands. Overwhelmingly, it seems the
Speaker 3: Mamas in the pop was the Beatles Phil Spector's process.
Speaker 3: So Sonny and Cher come out of that mix. So
Speaker 3: you know, I do, I do think there was something
Speaker 3: something you said there. Obviously the monkeys, but the monkey. See,
Speaker 3: that's the thing about this manufactured nature of how we
Speaker 3: look at things from the outside as well. So Peter Tork,
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson, speaking of cocaine, Bob and Jimmy Hendrix used
Speaker 3: to hang out at Peter Tork's house in Laurel Canyon
Speaker 3: together every day, and Jimmy Hendrix went on tour with
Speaker 3: the Monkeys and played music with them and played on
Speaker 3: the music of the film that Jack Nicholson would direct
Speaker 3: to their stuff. So I just I don't know. The
Speaker 3: whole movement to me seems extremely manufactured.
Speaker 1: I agree in it too a sense. I just like
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's by providence for two things,
Speaker 1: because in the sixties there you did have a lot
Speaker 1: of military families based in San Diego and the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles area, and you have a what became a blend
Speaker 1: of people because you have Hendrix when he dropped out
Speaker 1: are I was just I was honorably discharged from the army,
Speaker 1: went to New York and hang out, hangs out with
Speaker 1: the Eisley Brothers, right, and he learned all of his.
Speaker 3: Chops from yes, familiar with these bed time tales and uh.
Speaker 1: So he cut his teeth in New York City and
Speaker 1: then couldn't make it in the United States, goes over
Speaker 1: to England. And this that's where the the European connection
Speaker 1: comes in. So then you bring in Eric Clapton, you
Speaker 1: bring in Jeff Beck, you bring in the Who, and
Speaker 1: now you have so what I'm saying is you have
Speaker 1: a side that is bullshit like the Osmond brother the
Speaker 1: Osmond family. You have Sonny and Cheer, you have the Monkeys,
Speaker 1: you have the whole Uh what was that show? Uh
Speaker 1: Simler's List.
Speaker 3: You're a big Eric Strata fan, right, We're talking about chips.
Speaker 1: A huge Eric stra I chips before you can say that, Rota.
Speaker 1: But uh, the you have. What I'm saying is you
Speaker 1: have a blend of hard working, extremely talented musicians who
Speaker 1: again are disassociated with their families. And then you have
Speaker 1: a manufactured Hollywood thing with the phil Spector and the
Speaker 1: Wall of Sound and and uh the Tower of Power
Speaker 1: and all these musicians that were just okay, just go
Speaker 1: in there, cut that record and then those were the people,
Speaker 1: the Beatles, the Monkeys. They were getting these huge stadium tours,
Speaker 1: and so what you had to do to get your
Speaker 1: name and to get these get on these tours to
Speaker 1: make a big name for yourself was open for those bands.
Speaker 1: So Hendrix would open for the Monkeys and that it's
Speaker 1: it's like, what I mean, it makes no sense at all.
Speaker 1: But and then I think, because when you're talking about talent,
Speaker 1: you're talking about when you talk about the Birds, you're
Speaker 1: talking about Neil Young, You're talking about, uh, what's the Crosby,
Speaker 1: Stills and Ash, you know, and all those.
Speaker 3: Guys Young you.
Speaker 1: Up into the Rick James great, great music, you know.
Speaker 1: So the talent.
Speaker 2: Disagree there, But I do I do want to say, like,
Speaker 2: I get your point. I just think you need to
Speaker 2: read strange scenes inside the Canyon and then we could
Speaker 2: talk more about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you, yeah, when you moved Neil Young
Speaker 3: and from Toronto, who's doing a band called the uh
Speaker 3: the Minor Birds with Rick James. Cocaine's the Hell of
Speaker 3: a Drug, Rick James, Rick James, bitch, you know that
Speaker 3: that Rick James. You know again, it's Manu. The Machinations
Speaker 3: are the scene really we're obviously not apparent then they
Speaker 3: seem a parent now, right, But like my point is,
Speaker 3: this movement moves out of this Beatnik movement. They mash
Speaker 3: them together in that summer of love of the Monterey
Speaker 3: from the San Francisco thing. And that's why the Grateful
Speaker 3: Dead who came from their first concert in watts down
Speaker 3: there by Compton in South central LA as the Warlocks,
Speaker 3: they're embedded as a San Francisco thing under the same
Speaker 3: guys in the Sat Nashbury era of Charles Manson, of
Speaker 3: folks like you know again, so on and so forth,
Speaker 3: all these other political machinations of the process they're going
Speaker 3: on there, and it's the Beatniks to bring us that.
Speaker 3: It's Herbcane from the San Francisco Chronicle who coins the
Speaker 3: term beatnik, and it is all these folks like Ken Kesey,
Speaker 3: Allen Ginsburg, William Burrows, Jack Kerouac. They literally launch this
Speaker 3: movement we're discussing of the music that is mashed into
Speaker 3: this movement that comes from Laurel Canyon preceding this, right,
Speaker 3: because we're talking about sixty five through sixty seven where
Speaker 3: this music is being developed early sixty four really with
Speaker 3: the Birds and Bobby Boseley and Kenneth Anger, huge Crowleyites
Speaker 3: and part of the Manson family that pre date Manson
Speaker 3: in that era. So there's a there's an element of
Speaker 3: this cult activity that the predates Charlie getting out of
Speaker 3: prison there in sixty seven, simultaneously that his buddy Edward,
Speaker 3: when Edwards the possib Zeitia killed. By the way, they're
Speaker 3: both let out in Pearl at the same time, that
Speaker 3: seems convenient. But we we look at this Beatnik situation
Speaker 3: and it's all ci a documented Jackie, you know, kerawak
Speaker 3: Ken Kesey, you know, Alan Ginsburg, William Burrows, the scientologists.
Speaker 3: We got a lot of kid dealers in this group too.
Speaker 3: It's very strange. Cara WAC's a fucking Nazi. By the way,
Speaker 3: I don't have anyone knew that one that got that
Speaker 3: was kind of surprising.
Speaker 4: Cara Wac was what Mike Myers said that he uh
Speaker 4: used for his inspiration for the film.
Speaker 2: Just so you guys, ooh, that's a good tie back,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: That's a good that's a fun fact. Doddy, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, are you all familiar with the King Kill thirty three?
Speaker 3: Theory of James Shelby Downard and the assassinations a legis
Speaker 3: sassinations there of John F. Kennedy. Mm hmmm that's Jack
Speaker 3: Harrowac's friend. Him and James Shelby Downard were BFFs.
Speaker 4: Downard's book is really good with all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: super like informative kine.
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard these ideas of the mystical toponymy
Speaker 3: and assassinations of jfk and a very esoteric psychodrama led
Speaker 3: on by these same intelligence agencies that were describing the
Speaker 3: machinations behind the beat Nicks and the local Canyon movement.
Speaker 1: When I lived in San Diego, my boss is at
Speaker 1: the liquor store I worked at were brothers and I.
Speaker 3: Remember these guys.
Speaker 1: I liked these guys, Yeah, Tom and Steve. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the place is called the Lawyer one Shop and Spirit
Speaker 1: Shop I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: They used to share with me all the stories. And
Speaker 1: Steve was actually a musician and Tom was a musician,
Speaker 1: great guitar player, so he knew a lot of these people.
Speaker 1: So here I'll just to wrap up what I was
Speaker 1: saying is you had these military connections. Definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of these music musicians had high level coincidentally military grade parents.
Speaker 1: And so what I think is to have just like
Speaker 1: you did do today, where you bring in the talent,
Speaker 1: Am I right? And so then you indoctrinate a doctrinary.
Speaker 1: And so what I think happened is when you talk
Speaker 1: about the grateful dead and a CikA, I think that
Speaker 1: that's probably the connection with leucinogenics as far as maybe
Speaker 1: it was experimented on by government agencies. Somehow it gets
Speaker 1: to the kids, then it just spread. It's like wildfire.
Speaker 1: You have to look at like Mollie used to be
Speaker 1: prescribed by psychiatrists for couples that we're having issues in
Speaker 1: the bedroom what you call did you.
Speaker 3: Call me Mollie? I I like it that I do,
Speaker 3: and I know me to interject. I do always want
Speaker 3: to try to keep us back on track a bit.
Speaker 3: But I do like your heads and and and I
Speaker 3: appreciate those thoughts. And I used to be a lot
Speaker 3: like what you're saying is where I used to be
Speaker 3: a lot on these subjects. And I'm not saying it's
Speaker 3: to your lack of information or education. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that to be a dick about her anything. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: over time, I have developed new thoughts when I do
Speaker 3: learn new information. And I assure you, sir, when the
Speaker 3: tavist the founder of the Tavistock Institute's son is the
Speaker 3: manager in music publishing, president or music president of the
Speaker 3: Grateful Deads and Music Publishing Company and best friends with
Speaker 3: Jerry Garcia, We're not looking at these We're not looking
Speaker 3: at an organic movement.
Speaker 2: One hundred.
Speaker 3: We're not looking at it. And again, it pains me
Speaker 3: to say that because I was a huge Grateful Dead fan.
Speaker 3: It's strange to say that. You know here that it fell,
Speaker 3: that's spent five years in combat. It was all it
Speaker 3: was a Grateful Dead fan. I assure it was weird folks,
Speaker 3: even over there when I'm wearing TI dies, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Were you really I was huged a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even then much moenties for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just want to say before we get back to
Speaker 2: the movie, these comments are fucked up today. I mean,
Speaker 2: they got like a fifty to fifty split of people
Speaker 2: saying like really useful information and then another three or
Speaker 2: four people who are just being absolutely retired.
Speaker 3: I see, well, I see, I don't know what this
Speaker 3: comment is, but they're out of here. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just now catching up. There is I see some
Speaker 3: wild some wild comments. Actually I can't. I can't do
Speaker 3: anything about that one.
Speaker 2: I was just like we were all talking and I
Speaker 2: looked over and I was like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who that is saying?
Speaker 8: What was it?
Speaker 1: I didn't even see like big.
Speaker 2: Black cocks And I can't.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not we don't need that. We don't. We
Speaker 3: don't need it. We don't need to give him a
Speaker 3: further platform. Gross, it's on. I just sent you' all
Speaker 3: note on in the back that how to take care
Speaker 3: of I can't. I can't do any on minion. But
Speaker 3: the the oh yeah, I'm way behind in comments, way
Speaker 3: behind it. Uh So the where were were at before?
Speaker 3: We were talking about broadcasting corps?
Speaker 2: She mentioned Mike Myers inspiration Jack Carroll Jack thank you.
Speaker 1: Dont forget about s Thompson as well, which I think
Speaker 1: is another talented person that worked hard to where he
Speaker 1: was getting. If you want to say, was in documentary
Speaker 1: that that's the way I see it, that there's a
Speaker 1: bigger element.
Speaker 3: He's friends with Jared Jack CARROWUAC. I think they're Nazi channels.
Speaker 3: I mean, they have some right wing extremists circles going
Speaker 3: in round, Jack Carrouac, James Shelby Downard, and folks like Thompson.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So one of the guys, I can't think of his
Speaker 3: name right now, he was with Thompson on his nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy two campaign. I think with Nixon. One of these
Speaker 3: guys in that crew was one of one of Cara
Speaker 3: WAC's friends there with James she Downer was in that
Speaker 3: crew with That's what I'm saying. I just you know,
Speaker 3: and the hunter s Thompson. You know, he's guarding the
Speaker 3: Esslin Institute while they're building. It's the he's the security
Speaker 3: guard there. I mean, let's get out, let's get out
Speaker 3: of town, folks, you know, I mean not you know again,
Speaker 3: I have no proof, but I buy into the stories
Speaker 3: of all the snuff films and he was allegedly filming
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So I don't find it would
Speaker 3: be a savory character Kane. Unfortunately, who's that? What's the Thompson.
Speaker 2: Don't even get me started on that guy.
Speaker 3: He let processing and Johnny Depp live in his house.
Speaker 3: I mean, let me, I don't I don't have a
Speaker 3: card Carring member or a statement from Hunter S. Thompson.
Speaker 3: He was a processed guy. But you know he walks
Speaker 3: like a processed guy, talks like a processed guy. He's
Speaker 3: probably My.
Speaker 1: Point is, I don't think that the whole movement is
Speaker 1: something that people were born into. I think it's something
Speaker 1: when you could when you can conglomerate in this area,
Speaker 1: there's there's different options that you have scientology process. Uh.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just wanted to mention Juliet that
Speaker 1: you blew my mind when what was that before we
Speaker 1: were talking about? Oh man, I don't want to forget
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 3: Uh, don't you better come up with an answer. You
Speaker 3: know what's coming.
Speaker 1: I know it's coming. Shut me down. Just shot me down.
Speaker 2: Was it about Was it about mackinsey Phillips or nose
Speaker 2: before that?
Speaker 3: Darn't it?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: Because okay, one of my platforms is the prettier the face,
Speaker 1: the darker the heart. And so when you said that
Speaker 1: about the baby extraction stuff, because you you can't you
Speaker 1: can't sit on this on this uh YouTube channel right
Speaker 1: now and say what were we talking about again?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: And so you can't say, oh, the Shriners they have
Speaker 1: a dark Agen. There's just no proof they do all
Speaker 1: the but look at the extremes that they go to
Speaker 1: for children and the access that that gives you. And
Speaker 1: you know Mary, the Danny Thomas Foundation, those type of
Speaker 1: things that cater to kids are the possibly you know.
Speaker 3: So no, I I don't again, I hate to interject.
Speaker 3: Just want to try to keep on keep on track here.
Speaker 3: And I know your head's at, and I appreciate where
Speaker 3: your head's at. It's a very reasonable statement. You're making
Speaker 3: my track pad in my computer jam for some reason.
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Huh? The uh, My point being
Speaker 3: is that we do have evidence of folks being born
Speaker 3: into this. We have evidence like Ousley the Bear, the
Speaker 3: Dancing Bear from The Grateful Dead. He's connected directly into
Speaker 3: this beatnik movement I'm describing tonight, And it's a beatnik
Speaker 3: movement that we see celebrate on this entire film. That's
Speaker 3: and that's kind of what I always want to bring
Speaker 3: it back in here. Is this The term beatnik kind
Speaker 3: of gets into this chronicle situation. We see a scene
Speaker 3: from the San Francisco Chronicle, which is again the heart
Speaker 3: of the zodiac. Again, we're gonna we're in a movie
Speaker 3: about a serial killer. So I don't think these things
Speaker 3: should be ignored. I think I somehow put comments on
Speaker 3: the screen and I don't even know how I did
Speaker 3: that at this point in time, folks. So you know,
Speaker 3: I apologize Juliev. I'm covering me up there as far
Speaker 3: as comments go. The uh but so, and it is
Speaker 3: with this beatnik moviment we see again out of the
Speaker 3: Cara WACs, the Burrows, the you know, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 3: and Ousley. So Ousley comes out of the same movement.
Speaker 3: He's the chemist. He's born into a very elite line
Speaker 3: family like that, and he's he's he's a chemist for
Speaker 3: the LSD. That that's not stolen, I mean, it's intentionally.
Speaker 3: It's documented that he's doing it for the CIA. He
Speaker 3: knew he was doing for the CIA. And they're distributed
Speaker 3: through Grateful Dead Concerts, which is being managed by the
Speaker 3: founder of the Tavistocks Son who was friends with Jolly West.
Speaker 3: He set up the program that Jelly West would come
Speaker 3: take over at UCLA. Before Jolly West got there. He
Speaker 3: laid the front, you know, laid the groundwork, it seems.
Speaker 3: So we're talking to all MKL for stuff, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I think that's interesting. We see
Speaker 3: that highlighted here in the beat next story, right, because
Speaker 3: it is this beatnicks. And then we see we see
Speaker 3: the term beatnik being described as a as a combination
Speaker 3: of the term sputnick and what was the other half
Speaker 3: of that. I don't remember, but we see that, we
Speaker 3: see them highlight we even so we see the beat
Speaker 3: the beat poets all right, all the places we see
Speaker 3: throughout the film, Mike Myers character, right, it's all beat
Speaker 3: beat poets, right, and uh, that's the whole underlying plot line, right.
Speaker 3: And then we see at one point that his us
Speaker 3: presumably as that's his younger brother, right, the kid from
Speaker 3: the Mighty Ducks, right, but like is Mike Myers character's
Speaker 3: younger brother, the you know head, but they call his
Speaker 3: head spotnick.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do.
Speaker 3: I'm all jammed up on this end as far as
Speaker 3: he's got its own weather jammed. Uh. That's a that's
Speaker 3: a great scene. And speaking of another film with kids
Speaker 3: that has probably some dark ship you know, is Mighty Ducks,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Those kids didn't turn.
Speaker 2: Out right, No, they did not, And there was it
Speaker 2: wasn't the main guy from the sandlot in Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot, there's a lot of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of crossovers in. There's that one kid,
Speaker 3: Rock Pierce, who played the young Emilio Stevez and he's
Speaker 3: a deadler and uh did those other folks and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, so on and so forth. You know, he's
Speaker 3: part of that den, that digital entertainment network that was
Speaker 3: owned by Geffen. He was the diddler that ran that operation.
Speaker 3: He was his young boy toy, Rock Pierce. He was
Speaker 3: Steve Bannon's guest at the last inauguration. Just saying, on
Speaker 3: that note, we see the Beatnicks being venerated throughout this
Speaker 3: entire film, throughout the poetry, you know, the whole plotline
Speaker 3: of which I'll get you in a minute, because I
Speaker 3: want to ask y'all what's Charlie McKenzie's job. How does
Speaker 3: he make money? But on that note, hold on one second,
Speaker 3: all right, head.
Speaker 10: He paper, no move that metal of yours and get
Speaker 10: the paper if you can't, Paula, I'm not Cargan and
Speaker 10: cranium about. I'm not kidding, not boys heads like Spotnik spiracle,
Speaker 10: but quick pointing.
Speaker 1: In the pots Well that was.
Speaker 3: So we literally see the continued veneration in this film
Speaker 3: of you know, of the whole Beatnick thing, and again
Speaker 3: the Beatnicks turn into the hippies through the direct the
Speaker 3: direct connections of the Jack Kerouac and the Mary Pranksters,
Speaker 3: et cetera. In the Alsy situation. Right, So, are you
Speaker 3: familiar with the Tuesday Well factor in that in that environment,
Speaker 3: this beatnik hippie machinations right where where the Beatniks meet
Speaker 3: the hippies. Are you familiar with the Tuesday Weld situation there? Julia?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, she's involved in everything, isn't she She.
Speaker 3: Is, indeed she is. Indeed, well, she's involved in the
Speaker 3: TV show that we see the first beatnik depicted Gilligan.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, old Bob. I was about to call him Bob
Speaker 3: Denver for a second. You know it is Bob Denver, right, Bob? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what. Yeah. So he's he's the first, if I
Speaker 3: can find it here somewhere, he is the first here
Speaker 3: we go, He's the first beatnik we see. So this
Speaker 3: is the proto hippie movement, this is and this is
Speaker 3: Tuesday Wild. She's in the same TV show The Many
Speaker 3: Loves of Adobie Gillis. You know this one?
Speaker 1: I know Adobie Gills yet yeah, well you you sir.
Speaker 3: Please tell us what is the Mini Lives of Debbie Gillis.
Speaker 1: It was a beatn at comedy with Gilligan. And you
Speaker 1: know an interesting fact about the captain wore that captain's
Speaker 1: outfit for the rest of his life, Like he would
Speaker 1: go to bars dressed as the captain and people would
Speaker 1: buy you know, and till the day he died. Donna
Speaker 1: Wells uh not pictured.
Speaker 3: There is this a Gilligan story or a Debbie Gillis story?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got I got off track?
Speaker 3: Or is this an next girlfriend story? Did you date her?
Speaker 1: Well, my mom and I went to go see Donna
Speaker 1: Wells at the Showboat Dinner Theater and she was going
Speaker 1: to play there. She was Maryanne on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they never they had to do that, because
Speaker 3: they never got royalties for that show. Bob, they were
Speaker 3: very broke.
Speaker 1: He was a radio Gilligan's Island is actually one of
Speaker 1: the most underrating movies of all time.
Speaker 3: Well back to mister Gilligan here who who I first
Speaker 3: knew to be before Gilligan's Island. I knew him to
Speaker 3: be a radio host in southern West Virginia, so that
Speaker 3: was what That's what happens when these people like Old
Speaker 3: Cocaine Bob and Philispactory Gang take all the money from
Speaker 3: the from the talent in which they produce things with.
Speaker 3: That's that's my take on that. But we see Crab's character,
Speaker 3: Maydard Crabs, portrayed by actor Bob Denver, begins a series
Speaker 3: as a beatnik with a go t hip slang language
Speaker 3: and generally unkept bohemian appearance. Again, this is where the
Speaker 3: proto hippie movement begins, and there's a direct lineage with
Speaker 3: all of these things. And again topic for another day.
Speaker 3: That I know Julia and I is one of our
Speaker 3: favorite characters that we both have interested in is the
Speaker 3: actress Tuesday Weld. And this is she's in this series,
Speaker 3: and she's also the connecting principle amongst the hippie and
Speaker 3: beatnik movement strangely enough, but it is the beatniks we
Speaker 3: find in the film, highlighted throughout the whole film. Right that,
Speaker 3: And on that note, let's uh, let's do a round
Speaker 3: table here on this question. We see it. We're introduced
Speaker 3: to Charlie Mackenzie Mike Myers character as we saw in
Speaker 3: the trailer, right, and he's a poet, right, which does
Speaker 3: in the context of the nineties doesn't make a lot
Speaker 3: of sense. But in the context of the fifties and
Speaker 3: the beat Nig movement, that was what these fellows did, right.
Speaker 3: But what did what did Charlie? How does Charlie Mackenzie live?
Speaker 3: Like what what's his job? Like? They don't really tell us, right,
Speaker 3: Like what are your all his thoughts? And how he
Speaker 3: how he makes money?
Speaker 1: He he was like a writer or something like that, Right,
Speaker 1: who's he writing for?
Speaker 2: Tell us or something like that?
Speaker 1: Or I don't remember. That's a good question, Jane.
Speaker 2: Do they even mention it?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. You know how many times I watched
Speaker 3: this film before I even asked that question. I watched
Speaker 3: this film at least it made the Century Club before
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, wait a second, because it
Speaker 3: was after I started learning about all these beat Nicks
Speaker 3: and the hippies and the machinations behind the same right,
Speaker 3: Because again, I love San Francisco. I did not want
Speaker 3: to hear these cia machinations of the Grateful Dead and
Speaker 3: these activities, but you know, the facts for facts, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, calls him how's a season? But you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I watched it so many times. What does he do?
Speaker 3: They don't tell us, do they?
Speaker 1: M Well, he does stand up poetry.
Speaker 3: Well that, but that's that's a nod back to the
Speaker 3: Beatnik movement. That's what they did, right, those were the
Speaker 3: Beatnik poets.
Speaker 2: So what is your theory?
Speaker 3: Well, his best friend to a detective, right, mm hmm,
Speaker 3: So he seems like he's a some sort of narc
Speaker 3: or co intel prone formant infiltrating the scenes, just like
Speaker 3: the Beatniks did, right, Project Chaos, FBI, co intel pro,
Speaker 3: whichever you want to cut it. But it's the same
Speaker 3: thing the Beatniks did. They were doing the same activities.
Speaker 3: We see that with Charlie mackenzie.
Speaker 2: Well because at the very beginning of the movie when
Speaker 2: he's talking to his friend and he's like, you look
Speaker 2: like a pimp. That's you look like a like an
Speaker 2: undercovered police officer. That yeah, kind of looked like a pimp.
Speaker 2: And he was like, I am an undercover police officer
Speaker 2: that's trying to look like a pimp.
Speaker 3: So that's why I made that Chips reference before also
Speaker 3: because what I really meant was not Chips. But the
Speaker 3: other one starts skiing Hutch because he says he looks
Speaker 3: like Huggy Bear and he does. Why is he dressed
Speaker 3: like a seventies pimp as an undercover detective in the
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: What is that a throwback to what? You know? What
Speaker 3: are they saying and doing? Mike Myers rewrote this whole script.
Speaker 4: Yes, there was that huge problem with it was like
Speaker 4: a huge it almost went to court or did so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if before we started unpacking, oh, did you
Speaker 3: have any other comments on what his job was? Did
Speaker 3: anyone else pick up on anything there? Hadi?
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: So we see the plotline of the serial killer play
Speaker 3: out aund around the story of Charlie Mackenzie's beat poet
Speaker 3: whose best friend, Anthony Lapalgia is a start skin Hutch
Speaker 3: Huggy Bear guy. So that's what I'm saying, Like they
Speaker 3: don't tell us what he's doing for a job. He's
Speaker 3: always with his police detective. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 3: just put two and two together. Point you know, I
Speaker 3: called him how the season. But we see the whole
Speaker 3: narrative unfold around this kind of plotline right here.
Speaker 10: It'll be crying himself to sleep to night on this
Speaker 10: huge pilla.
Speaker 3: Hey mom, I find it interesting that you refer to
Speaker 3: the Weekly World News as the paper.
Speaker 1: The paper contains facts.
Speaker 8: This paper contains facts, and this paper has the eighth
Speaker 8: highest circulation in the whole wide world. Right twenty facts.
Speaker 8: Pregnant man gives birth, that's a fact.
Speaker 6: There is little.
Speaker 3: I just want to point out that, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all the time, but sometimes, just as
Speaker 3: they were stating there, you can find facts in these
Speaker 3: Weekly World News things. Because that's why I learned about
Speaker 3: Nathaniel bar Jona for the very first time out of
Speaker 3: the Weekly World News while standing in a grocery or
Speaker 3: in Great Falls, Montana, about a kid diddling, psychopathic, cannibalistic,
Speaker 3: homicidal serial killer who murdered some folks there in the
Speaker 3: same town. I learned it in from an edition of
Speaker 3: the Weekly World News. Strangely enough, so you can't learn
Speaker 3: facts from the Weekly World News, but it is.
Speaker 2: They also mentioned that in Men in Black, the first one,
Speaker 2: when he's training him, he's like, the real news comes
Speaker 2: from these and it was like where some something crashed
Speaker 2: in my yard and was wearing my husband like an
Speaker 2: Edgar suit or whatever. To me, you know, I think
Speaker 2: they have to put like the tabloids truth stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the premise is, oh, for sure, right,
Speaker 1: for sure, that he's a successful single guy, never been married,
Speaker 1: but is unable to find someone, and that's the whole
Speaker 1: quest that becomes the quest that the him and he
Speaker 1: falls in love with the girl and then obviously I
Speaker 1: don't want to reveal the end, but.
Speaker 3: Uh so that that is obviously there is some he's
Speaker 3: got some he's got some problems, right, but his mom
Speaker 3: describes him that she's worried about him and he can't
Speaker 3: maintain a girlfriend relationship. Again, I don't know how he's
Speaker 3: supposed to do. What job does he have? She doesn't
Speaker 3: even know. They never discussed and when he's discussed me
Speaker 3: his parents, there's never a conversation about employment. I'm just
Speaker 3: pointing these things out because it took me hundreds of
Speaker 3: times to watch this for even realize what does this
Speaker 3: dude do for a living? And how's this guy have money?
Speaker 3: His parents used to run a butcher shop. We do
Speaker 3: we learned that over the hagas right, mm hmm, don't.
Speaker 1: He worked in the butcher shop, so we knew he
Speaker 1: had one job.
Speaker 3: As a teenager.
Speaker 1: I think they probably, if it was intentional or not,
Speaker 1: left it and ambiguous to uh, just let you in
Speaker 1: your mind imagine what is successful is that's It's like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of just assumed and established to the beginning
Speaker 1: of the movie. Like Myers has his own place, he's
Speaker 1: got you know, everything's together. The only thing that keeps
Speaker 1: faltering his life is the whip.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't disagree with your assessment. That is
Speaker 3: a very uh, that's a very accurate assessment of the
Speaker 3: plot narratives of the film, for sure. For sure. I
Speaker 3: just I questioned when I see gaps, why didn't they
Speaker 3: describe that? What are they telling us when they don't
Speaker 3: describe something like that? Like why does he drive that
Speaker 3: old bus to ask carb he's got money? Where does
Speaker 3: he live? You don't ever see his house.
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss you, You want to want
Speaker 1: to perfect lead. That's why you always find in Hollywood
Speaker 1: movies they try to find that girl next door. Look
Speaker 1: that's pretty, but it just has the flause where you
Speaker 1: could you feel like you had.
Speaker 3: A chance, you know, like is he homeless because Harriet's
Speaker 3: got a pretty big, pretty big spice move in there, right, we.
Speaker 1: Don't see his home doing katy charmed house.
Speaker 3: That's his parents though, right.
Speaker 1: Charmhouse is where they went in their honey charm but.
Speaker 3: We don't see his house there right right, So as
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play a next clip about the serial killer,
Speaker 3: then we can start unpacking the narratives the characters in
Speaker 3: these in these locations, if y'all don't don't mind.
Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 8: This missus X, the honeymoon murderer. She marries men under
Speaker 8: fake identities and then she murders him. She's murdered three
Speaker 8: men already.
Speaker 10: Look.
Speaker 8: Victor number one was a lounge singer, Victim number two
Speaker 8: a Russian martial arts expert.
Speaker 1: And she's also killed.
Speaker 8: A plumber named Ralph Elliott.
Speaker 4: And her whereabouts unknown.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah, in my in my name, on my
Speaker 3: on my name, you and my.
Speaker 10: Your Celtic. Yeah, and I did on baby, I deed
Speaker 10: you the bustling.
Speaker 3: I had. I had to leave the drunken dad in there.
Speaker 3: It's a great part.
Speaker 1: My eyes, my eyes, I mean he made a good
Speaker 1: point earlier and saying you were used to seeing him
Speaker 1: as getting my duddy and you know, these characters. His
Speaker 1: characters are always over the top, but it's even with
Speaker 1: his dad, it's it's it's more of a regular character.
Speaker 1: And and he's just he made re something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, and the uh. I think I just realized
Speaker 1: what you're you're kind of onto jj is. I think
Speaker 1: they make him this plain neutral character. This this NPC,
Speaker 1: you know, not non player character that's just kind of
Speaker 1: generic that way, the family members that he plays and
Speaker 1: these type of things stand out more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I see what you're saying. And that
Speaker 3: was actually some I think, if I remember correctly, someone
Speaker 3: of the critical response to the film was they wanted
Speaker 3: to see it about the family and they didn't like
Speaker 3: the character of Charlie mackenzie. I love the Charlie McKenzie character.
Speaker 3: Don't get.
Speaker 1: Rollers, I mean, my favorite.
Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic on every front. I'm just in
Speaker 3: the rioting is great. Again. I appreciate what Myers did
Speaker 3: to the script because I can't imagine it was I mean,
Speaker 3: he had to make it better. It could have been
Speaker 3: this good, you know, So I just I do Now
Speaker 3: that we don't know his home, we don't know his job, right,
Speaker 3: go ahead, Hodie.
Speaker 4: Oh, they were just going to film it in New
Speaker 4: York and they were going to make it more like
Speaker 4: a real spy movie. And Sharon Stone was supposed to
Speaker 4: play the woman. So yeah, the completely and that's why
Speaker 4: he kind of fought for the rights to it, and
Speaker 4: they they wouldn't give it. It was a whole big thing.
Speaker 3: They screw him out of the rights. No, they know,
Speaker 3: the Screen Actors Guild. They screwed him and his two
Speaker 3: partners out of the rights.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yep. And they were super upset because they
Speaker 4: basically rewrote it.
Speaker 1: So in Hollywood, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So we have the weird character of Charlie McKenzie. We've
Speaker 3: seen his parents, his brother, but his buddy the detective
Speaker 3: there in the conspiracy theory scene. And then we haven't
Speaker 3: been quite introduced to Harriet's sister though, have we. She's
Speaker 3: the other main character. She is obviously a spoiler alert.
Speaker 3: She is the serial killer. Now we don't learn that
Speaker 3: so much later in the film because I've as we
Speaker 3: saw the mom name off all of these different dead husbands.
Speaker 3: Charlie keeps finding out that, like you know, throughout the film,
Speaker 3: he's finding out that another one of these these dead
Speaker 3: husbands pops up, and he thinks that he's telling his
Speaker 3: detective buddy, like, hey, this lady's a serial killer, right,
Speaker 3: And his detective buddy says, look, I looked into one
Speaker 3: of those cases, and you know that wasn't the case,
Speaker 3: and that was the case of Ralph Elliott. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden halfway through the film, we see twist, right,
Speaker 3: because we see that he learns that Ralph Elliott, you know,
Speaker 3: he breaks up with Harriet as a result of that. Right,
Speaker 3: we see that Ralph Elliott, you know, may might not
Speaker 3: be Yes, sir, well, I think he was the plumber.
Speaker 3: I think he was the plumber. We find out that
Speaker 3: you may not have been murdered. Oh, I mean the
Speaker 3: whole I mean, I think there's probably even something to
Speaker 3: that with all these victims. I just didn't quite go
Speaker 3: into that deep of an analysis on him. But we
Speaker 3: find out that as far as the turning point goes,
Speaker 3: is that Ralph Elliott may have been may not have
Speaker 3: been murdered. So he overhears that again in the San
Speaker 3: Francisco Ronicle. Is he weak, Frank?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 3: Just these two it's been dead around here. I got
Speaker 3: this one here at tourist heart attack on a cable car.
Speaker 1: God left his heart in San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's a real person you're talking about.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: There was another one here in native San Francisco plumber
Speaker 3: Elliott Ralph moved to Dallas. Disappeared four months ago. My
Speaker 3: body was found in a sewer well.
Speaker 1: Guy takes his job too seriously. Life goes down to dream.
Speaker 1: Did they mention anything about his wife?
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I got this is so funny.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got. I got the other half of that.
Speaker 3: When I wanted to take an intermission on the just
Speaker 3: and just talk about that clip. Did you all have
Speaker 3: any thoughts on that clip?
Speaker 1: I think that's the scene that made me think that
Speaker 1: he was a writer for the paper. I guess I
Speaker 1: just always assumed that he was just some type of journalist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's dropping off. He's dropping off the anniversary announcement
Speaker 3: for his folks when we see Calvin Akis at the party, right.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess I yeah, I didn't even I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I never thought about what he did as
Speaker 1: far as it goes. Yeah, Like I think I think
Speaker 1: they make him as generic a un likable at the
Speaker 1: same time character. You know, like when she when she
Speaker 1: when they're at her house the first time, and he's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and go home. This is usually
Speaker 1: where I mess up in situations by going too fast.
Speaker 1: And she goes, He's like, I don't think I should
Speaker 1: sleep with you. She goes, I want to sleep with you. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go or whatever he drops.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a classic Mike Myers though, right,
Speaker 3: that's some Saturday Night lifestyle humor. I think that he
Speaker 3: inserted some of his classic style of humor in there.
Speaker 1: They do leave a lot to imagination as far as
Speaker 1: his current situation in life, though, but they felt much
Speaker 1: deeper into his background, don't they, with his parents and
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That was the critics review too.
Speaker 3: They focused a lot on that, but that wasn't really
Speaker 3: part of the story though, even though they focused a
Speaker 3: lot of that. So I think this again, to me,
Speaker 3: this is telling you what Meyers the story Myers is
Speaker 3: trying to tell here, you know. So what that is
Speaker 3: I don't know. But again, they're standing in the Houston
Speaker 3: or the Houston, San Francisco Chronicle right, which is a
Speaker 3: game where Herb Kane was the editor for during the
Speaker 3: Zodiac latters being sent to Herb Kane the editor right,
Speaker 3: And he also is the guy that coined the term
Speaker 3: beatnicks back to why are they doing that inside the
Speaker 3: San Francisco Chronicle. That's a deeper meaning. I think Heidi
Speaker 3: or Julia did y'll have any thoughts on those that
Speaker 3: portion of the scene anything.
Speaker 2: Particular only that is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Learning point though, right, major turning point framers. That's where
Speaker 3: that's because he takes Harriet back right, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: He tells He tells him, Uh, he asked him, Uh
Speaker 1: did they say anything about his wife? It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's I got, did anything about his wife?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 10: Okay, Look I know that we're talking about real people here,
Speaker 10: so I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm serious. Did they mention the wife? Look,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, I you know I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to make a joke about other people's lives.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm really serious that they mentioned the wife.
Speaker 1: You win, you win, Okay, I'm a bad person here
Speaker 1: saying I'm insensitive, saying I'm ship.
Speaker 4: He's not saying they mentioned did they mention the wife?
Speaker 1: No, no, they didn't mention the wife. Yeah happy, yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, I'm insensitive. I'm a very insensitive Matt.
Speaker 1: Stop your job. Look at that's what they're paying you for.
Speaker 3: Classic. I love it the So I just think there's
Speaker 3: a lot more again like that scene and other scenes.
Speaker 3: But so what what what about the characters we saw?
Speaker 3: I'll pull actually forgot to pull up a clip of
Speaker 3: the actual serial killer. I'll pull up the ending clipper
Speaker 3: to show us here after we go over the characters.
Speaker 3: But out of these different scenes, you all notice the
Speaker 3: houses and the characters do why don't you start us
Speaker 3: off on that? What are some of the biggest takeaways
Speaker 3: on the characters in the locations.
Speaker 4: So I really focused in on some odd things because
Speaker 4: I figured, like, go on the outer spectrum there. And
Speaker 4: so this house was called the Dunsmeyer Hellman Estate and
Speaker 4: it's featured us the eat corner in yeah at the
Speaker 4: in uh huh. And and so with this one, I
Speaker 4: found this really interesting with what's going on there. They
Speaker 4: actually bought it. So this Dunsmeyer guy bought it for
Speaker 4: his bride and died on his honeymoon. And that's basically
Speaker 4: what they're filming there, So that was kind of fun.
Speaker 3: And then I'm glad you all picked up on that one.
Speaker 3: I got a picture that in here somewhere. I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to find it.
Speaker 4: Yes, and his wife actually died a little bit after
Speaker 4: that as well. It's been used for a lot of
Speaker 4: scary movies, including Phantasma in nineteen seventy nine, Burnt Offerings
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy six, of You to Kill in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty five, and there was like a bunch of other ones.
Speaker 1: So that's a great Burnt Offerings.
Speaker 4: That's kind of weird Offerings seventy six, Yes, very strange.
Speaker 4: And the room that they rented when they went there
Speaker 4: for their honeymoon was the Robbie Burns Room. And that
Speaker 4: is a free Masonic poet who's super into the occult
Speaker 4: back in the day. He is Scottish and was a
Speaker 4: member of the Koshalan. Let's see how it is it?
Speaker 3: Do you know who else is a thirty second degree
Speaker 3: Scottish write freemason, Michael Richards? We just sell them.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I did not know that this guy was
Speaker 4: like a deep it's called the Koshalan fencible member. He
Speaker 4: was that and it's like a super cultic faction.
Speaker 3: So aka the hard R Richards. Thank you, wes h.
Speaker 4: So super wild. But that was fun for me to
Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Oh you're good.
Speaker 2: I just thought that crap.
Speaker 3: Yes, he needs to play doc and Back to the
Speaker 3: Future future Kine. I agree, King would be a good doc.
Speaker 3: There was there was now that you mentioned that there
Speaker 3: was actually a there was actually a connection to this
Speaker 3: film and Back to the Future, and it'll come back
Speaker 3: to me. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. One of the beating
Speaker 3: at guys, Jackson Foddy. He he serves in the Scientology
Speaker 3: just ufo aliens guy, you know that fell he's actually
Speaker 3: apparently the character basis for Doc Brown from Back to
Speaker 3: the Future, and he's part of the beat Nick movement
Speaker 3: as well from San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Just saying, so, these are a couple other random things
Speaker 4: that I had from they weren't they were part of
Speaker 4: the wall, you know, the Scottish Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 4: I just wanted to mention some of those if this
Speaker 4: is a good time for that where it's part of
Speaker 4: the house or should.
Speaker 3: I let's uh, let's take a quick speak of that
Speaker 3: murder that went down here, right, what was that about?
Speaker 4: Really? Uh well, he just died. He got sick and
Speaker 4: died on his honeymoon, and so it was really odd.
Speaker 4: He wasn't then, like, but makes one wonder this is
Speaker 4: really old, so would they know if it was a poisoning.
Speaker 4: And then we're watching the show where he thinks he's
Speaker 4: being poisoned but also dies on his honeymoon, so that
Speaker 4: was weird. And then she gets the house and you know,
Speaker 4: she dies like very shortly after. It wasn't too many
Speaker 4: years later, so it was very strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, quite a property too, right.
Speaker 4: Oh, beautiful, gorgeous. It's a it does weddings now, and
Speaker 4: it's like an Airbnb type wedding thing. So if anybody's
Speaker 4: getting married and you want a haunted house, because they
Speaker 4: do say there's paranormal activity there.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I wonder if they run this
Speaker 2: thing as like a B and B or something that
Speaker 2: you could go stay out, because I would definitely good,
Speaker 2: let's go. Yeah, I would say for sure.
Speaker 4: Yay, we can, we can call Janet too.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's spooky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of a little bit spooky, it is.
Speaker 3: Right, It's not like it's not really out in the
Speaker 3: in the wilderness or nothing. That's kind of right there, right, No,
Speaker 3: it's weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought that was kind of fun.
Speaker 1: That's another interesting point as far as houses like this go,
Speaker 1: when you say they don't make them like this anymore.
Speaker 1: When you look at like the Chicago's World Fair, they're twenty.
Speaker 3: It's actually I think was a little bit before that.
Speaker 1: But yes, well, like within what a year over a
Speaker 1: swamp and then they just tore it right down, you know.
Speaker 1: And even there's a lot of houses here from the
Speaker 1: fifties in Fairwater, Florida, and they just they they're so
Speaker 1: well built that they're they're I mean, it just it
Speaker 1: makes modern construction. And you just wonder about what when
Speaker 1: you look back at like the thirteen hundreds and sixteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: with the beautiful cathedrals and stuff that they built, you
Speaker 1: wonder what they're not telling us.
Speaker 4: For sure, And that's was eighteen ninety nine when it
Speaker 4: was built.
Speaker 1: Just that it's hard to say it's a house now
Speaker 1: it's a B and B though, or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'll say. What they're not telling us is that's why
Speaker 3: Harriet and Charlie broke up. Because they broke up right
Speaker 3: in front of this house and they claim it's a
Speaker 3: full house, but not that day, different day. So what
Speaker 3: I'm saying so this is this is the house again
Speaker 3: the scene in the film I meant to I just
Speaker 3: want to bring it back to this before we go
Speaker 3: past the chronological in the film when they did get
Speaker 3: back together after he heard the Ralph Elliott thing that
Speaker 3: was you know, that was that Ralph Elliot seems after
Speaker 3: he broke up with her in front of this house. Again,
Speaker 3: this is the full house house. Back to the cocaine
Speaker 3: Bob connections, if you will, and the Manson murders, if
Speaker 3: you will. Again, this is the guy that owns this
Speaker 3: Manson property. The Cielo Drive is executive producer. But we
Speaker 3: what else do we see with that? With that home?
Speaker 3: Did anyone else pick up anything else?
Speaker 4: And that duns more round, I'm just that guy, that
Speaker 4: guy that they said they had that room, that the
Speaker 4: Robbie Burrows room was that that guy is like, seriously,
Speaker 4: you guys should look into that secret society. It's it's
Speaker 4: pretty woo so really old.
Speaker 3: All right, nice? Nice? So did anyone else have any
Speaker 3: locations that they picked up on? Before we go into
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theory scene. It's one of these characters.
Speaker 2: My time to shine is definitely going to be the
Speaker 2: living room scene with the dad. That's going to be
Speaker 2: my time.
Speaker 3: Without further ado.
Speaker 8: He's giving Lindens runnish again.
Speaker 10: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny jam that there's
Speaker 10: a secret to say it if the five wealthiest people
Speaker 10: in the world, known as the pentapt who run everything
Speaker 10: in the world, including the newspapers and meet triannually, are
Speaker 10: the secret country mansion in Colorado, not dads the meadows.
Speaker 5: So who's in this panthereood, the Queen.
Speaker 10: The Vatican, the Gettys, the lost Child's I'm Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 10: Before he went Tet's up. I hated the colonel with
Speaker 10: his wee beady eyes and that smug liak on his face.
Speaker 10: Oh you're gonna buy my chicken, and.
Speaker 1: Oh that How can you hate the colonel.
Speaker 10: Because he puts an addictive chemiclas chicken that makes you
Speaker 10: cleave it fortnightly, Smarters.
Speaker 3: Interesting classic scene. I can watch it over again and
Speaker 3: over again. So, Colonel Sanders, I sent.
Speaker 4: You this, Yes I had to. Or did you get
Speaker 4: it too? You saw this too?
Speaker 3: You said you said that to me. Yeah, I because
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 4: A fantastic with Colonel Sanders. This is a real picture
Speaker 4: of the church prophets that are like top echelon guys.
Speaker 4: It cracked me up so bad knowing that Colonel Sanders
Speaker 4: actually the very first Kentucky Fried Chicken ever made is
Speaker 4: in Salt Lake City. There was a guy that helped
Speaker 4: him named Pete Harman, and he is the key piece
Speaker 4: Forentucky Fried Chicken. He's helped advertise and run it. He's
Speaker 4: also the one that came up with fingerlooking good statement.
Speaker 4: I'm nervous to say that with the chat today, but anyways, yeah,
Speaker 4: we fix that. And then also he owns all. So
Speaker 4: this guy, Pete Harmon owned all of the Kentucky Fried
Speaker 4: Chickens in Utah, Washington, Nevada, and California. And he's a
Speaker 4: Mormon and they were super good friends. They were best
Speaker 4: friends until yep, until he died, and well one of
Speaker 4: them died. Colonel Sanders died first, and Colonel Sanders just
Speaker 4: FYI was a freemason, lodged six fifty one Henryville, Dana. Yep.
Speaker 4: So I just thought it was funny they gave him
Speaker 4: a little homage right here. I wonder if that was
Speaker 4: for this Harmon guy, Pete Harmon. Maybe it was a
Speaker 4: nod to all the tithing he paid.
Speaker 2: My uh My one and only thing that I took
Speaker 2: away from that little speech was also about Colonel Sanders,
Speaker 2: which I find interesting that you picked that too, because
Speaker 2: I have watched a lot of movies where secret societies
Speaker 2: and people who run everything are mentioned. The Vatican and
Speaker 2: the Queen are dead giveaways like everybody knows those. I
Speaker 2: did find it interesting that he mentioned the Gettys, the
Speaker 2: lesser known one. The Gettys do probably run everything, especially
Speaker 2: media and bens.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Gettys.
Speaker 3: There are the people behind Gavin News and the things
Speaker 3: in California right now are bring brought to us by
Speaker 3: the Getty family through.
Speaker 1: Ye pay right into controlling the media and.
Speaker 3: A lot of ship.
Speaker 1: So this is what all those guys have in common. Sorry, Julia,
Speaker 1: the in that go back to that picture right there
Speaker 1: in the white suits. If you can't mind, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you can see what they have in common.
Speaker 3: Is there. We beat the eyes, good one good.
Speaker 4: Their canes too, their canes, don't miss that, right?
Speaker 3: Are you all familiar with this fellaw? He's the guy
Speaker 3: that took over Colonel's KFC and made it what it was.
Speaker 3: John why Brown, he's a former governor of Kentucky. He
Speaker 3: took cocaine Bob's third wife from Phyllis Diller, former Miss America.
Speaker 3: And he's the reason why they have decadent parties of
Speaker 3: the Kentucky Derby because of all that cocaine. He was
Speaker 3: wrapped up in something called the Bluegrass Conspiracy with his
Speaker 3: attorney and best friend's son. Drew Thornton. Is the guy
Speaker 3: that jumped out of that aircraft wearing two thousand dollars loafers,
Speaker 3: armed to the teeth with some submachine machine guns from
Speaker 3: Mitch Morbell and his Cobra arms, and had a bunch
Speaker 3: of cocaine strapped to himself. And that's what the bear found.
Speaker 3: Any of that cocaine for cocaine Bear, But that was
Speaker 3: John why Brown's buddies and gang there in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Your family is from Kentucky, isn't it.
Speaker 3: You do?
Speaker 2: I thought you had mentioned it before. Maybe I'm remembering that.
Speaker 3: Wrong, but you remember correctly. Old Charles Manson and I
Speaker 3: are from Pikeville.
Speaker 2: Pikeville, that's right, that's right. Because my family is also
Speaker 2: from well most of actually all of my family is
Speaker 2: is from the Appalachian Mountains in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like, uh, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: So they grew up in I think Butcher's Holler. It's
Speaker 2: said it all the time, but now I'm forgetting I
Speaker 2: have not I'm.
Speaker 3: Not familiar with that name. So I and say, I
Speaker 3: don't know, say you're they're from a Wise, Virginia, Logan County,
Speaker 3: West Virginia, or Pikeville, Kentucky. I'm related to like every
Speaker 3: county there.
Speaker 2: It's close to Pikeville, but it's it's not. I mean
Speaker 2: it's close, but it's not Pikeville. But anyways, I grew
Speaker 2: up in Kentucky and I've I've eaten at a million KFC's, right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of KFC's in my hometown and
Speaker 2: I had really only experienced KFC from Kentucky, and then
Speaker 2: when I moved and I had it other places. I
Speaker 2: do want to just say it tastes different. It tastes
Speaker 2: like they definitely have added some chemicals and shipped to it.
Speaker 2: I've had yeah something because I've had KFC in multiple
Speaker 2: different states and they all it all tasted really weird
Speaker 2: to me compared to the KFC's from actual Kentucky.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's franchise.
Speaker 4: The Mormons ruined it.
Speaker 2: You think so, because I can't tell, like the franchise
Speaker 2: KFCs from like a chain KFC, like the chicken does
Speaker 2: taste different like they've done they do.
Speaker 4: They said that he was the one that made the
Speaker 4: ingredients for the special like spices, this guy from Utah
Speaker 4: sol maybe just for I don't know if that's just
Speaker 4: for his or or there.
Speaker 2: I'm not cause I know that some are franchised. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I find it interesting that John Wayne Gacy actually married
Speaker 2: a woman whose father owned a bunch of KFS franchises,
Speaker 2: and he actually became the manager of a KFC and
Speaker 2: that's where he actually started meeting a lot of the
Speaker 2: young men that he inevitably ended up raping and killing
Speaker 2: at gfcs. And also John Wayne Gacy asked for his
Speaker 2: last me a bucket of KFC and some French fries.
Speaker 2: So I do think it's interesting that like the whole
Speaker 2: programmed to kill thing comes back in in connection with KFC.
Speaker 1: Hold on right there, Julia, KFC has potato wedges, except
Speaker 1: to correct you.
Speaker 2: That's what the article it says. It says John Wayne
Speaker 2: Gacy asks for a bucket of cut of KFC twelve
Speaker 2: shrimps and French fries and a pound of strawberries for
Speaker 2: his last meal.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I did not know that.
Speaker 2: And somebody put in the comments Gasey was known as
Speaker 2: the colonel, but so wasn't Michael Ichino.
Speaker 3: Well, he was actually a colonel, though at least Gaysey
Speaker 3: was not in the military.
Speaker 4: Right, No, he was not.
Speaker 2: But anyways, that was my interesting KFC uh Axe murder connection.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it's a baby or a baby oil
Speaker 1: that they're putting in the KFC. There else you got?
Speaker 3: What else you got? Came? Did you see anything with
Speaker 3: some some of these conspiracy theory stuff? Did anything tip
Speaker 3: you off there or any interest of any greater concerns
Speaker 3: or study you will?
Speaker 1: I just I like the tie in because you say, well,
Speaker 1: the family is irrelevant to the story, like the critics said.
Speaker 1: But the tie the whole tie in of the plot
Speaker 1: of the movie is his mom reading that paper and
Speaker 1: telling him the headline and all of the details, and
Speaker 1: then one by one he notices the martial arts stuff
Speaker 1: on the wall and the Plumber story and he puts
Speaker 1: it all together from the insignificant little bit with his parents.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. And if I may play a
Speaker 3: scene on that note, because the pivotal scene he gets
Speaker 3: back together, he goes says he wants to marry her.
Speaker 4: Right, and then are we then on from conspiracies real quick?
Speaker 3: I did, okay, right, we can stay on that. I
Speaker 3: was just going to go over the then we can
Speaker 3: say on we get some more information, and I was
Speaker 3: just going to go on that note. I just hold
Speaker 3: that note.
Speaker 4: There's there's one thing with the Scottish wall when we
Speaker 4: get there, and then the pentabret. I just want to
Speaker 4: mention on the pentabre. It means five truths and it's
Speaker 4: all for the greater good, so very much like New
Speaker 4: World Order stuff. So I just want to mention that
Speaker 4: before we moved.
Speaker 3: Down and actually spawned on Netflix series by Myers later.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, it was actually a nod to that. Well
Speaker 4: he said the pentabric then and then it comes out
Speaker 4: like what twenty five thirty years later or something.
Speaker 3: But it's based on that scene. I mean, that's what
Speaker 3: I didn't do very well.
Speaker 4: No, it's an easter egg there though for everybody to see.
Speaker 4: So for sure, it's that's interesting.
Speaker 3: What what about the Scottish Hall of Fame? Did you
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: The Wall?
Speaker 4: I love it, so the Scottish Hall Wall of Fame,
Speaker 4: the ones I did pull off of there that kind
Speaker 4: of meant something. We got Sean Connery, who's a speculated freemason.
Speaker 4: We've got Shena e who has some major occult connections,
Speaker 4: especially through Prince earlier. And she made the fifth Filthy
Speaker 4: fifteen with the Satanic Panic where the parents started putting
Speaker 4: this stuff up for this specific song called Sugar Walls.
Speaker 4: That was a whole thing with her and Prince and
Speaker 4: then well, I mean sugar Walls, They're suspecting that it
Speaker 4: would be female genitalia. So she made this was Sheena Easton.
Speaker 4: She's on the wall there.
Speaker 3: She interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she made the Satanic Panic parents list called the
Speaker 4: Filthy fifteen back then for that song.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she she had some yep, the suspect connections there.
Speaker 4: And then Alexander Graham Bell he's on there. He's a
Speaker 4: mark Master Mason and Alika Shrine and he's also the
Speaker 4: Regent of the Smithsonian. We've got Sir Harry Lauder Freemason
Speaker 4: and Jackie Stewart, which I didn't find an absolute confirmation,
Speaker 4: so I'll let him slide on it. But he's a
Speaker 4: race car driver.
Speaker 3: So just to let you guys know, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: glad you looked at those who's all on that wall.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't get that deep into the characters.
Speaker 3: But we do see some interesting ones though. As I
Speaker 3: see the East and Satanic Panic one seems uniquely interesting
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely at a weird time before she kind of
Speaker 4: cleaned up her act there.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Satanic Panic, Julia mentioned this one earlier and
Speaker 3: I forgot to show it.
Speaker 1: I told you, Yes, Caine's.
Speaker 3: Favorite outsire from San Francisco versus the McMartin pre school.
Speaker 2: Owner one fucking hundred. The dress that she wears too
Speaker 2: is even like crazy, Oh yeah, similar, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Just thought of.
Speaker 2: Actually, did you guys watch they clone Tyrone on Netflix?
Speaker 3: Wait? Who's cloning? I'm out of here, folks are cloning
Speaker 3: folks here?
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So basically it's a super conspiratial movie. I love it.
Speaker 2: Everybody else takes it whatever. But in the movie they
Speaker 2: talk about how the government has been poisoning the fried
Speaker 2: chicken in this town to make people more easily controlled
Speaker 2: and subdued. And so I just thought of that right
Speaker 2: now because it's so interesting they would use a fried
Speaker 2: chicken place. And it also has h what's his name
Speaker 2: in it that everybody says was cloned.
Speaker 5: The Fox, Jamie Fox.
Speaker 2: It's called they cloned tyrone as I never got a
Speaker 2: lot of people says that it's trash and I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could watch it over and over again.
Speaker 2: But so Jamie Fox is in it, and they talk
Speaker 2: about how yeah, that the government look a shadow government
Speaker 2: cloning conspiracy, and they're also poisoning the fried chicken in
Speaker 2: the town that they live in to make people more
Speaker 2: easily controlled and subdued.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. This is this might
Speaker 3: be Caine's fairite movie Fried Chicken and cloning experiments.
Speaker 1: Let me let's chicken establishment to the mix is also
Speaker 1: Gus from Breaking Back. I forgot the name of the
Speaker 1: Chicken place, if anybody remembers out there, but that was
Speaker 1: a big part of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3: Also, well, I think with the regards to this film
Speaker 3: and the secret ingredient, from my take it was. He
Speaker 3: was referred to as MSG, and the number one ingredient
Speaker 3: in Chick fil a chicken is MSG, a highly apparently
Speaker 3: highly toxic neurotoxin. He he's the medical person. Now, she
Speaker 3: would she would know better.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's still in it, but
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: Use man. Look at the last time I looked at
Speaker 3: Chick fil A's nutrition, It's probably been about a year
Speaker 3: or so, but it's was still number one.
Speaker 2: Really, I thought Chick fil A was supposed to be
Speaker 2: the good guys of chicken.
Speaker 3: Well, let's be honest about the situation. The Tyson Corporation
Speaker 3: has been busted for cocaine trafficking. You at least investigated
Speaker 3: it for cocaine trafficking with their friend Slick Willy numerous times.
Speaker 2: Tyson is McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Though, right, I'm just saying that they run the chickens,
Speaker 3: and they run all the chickens in America. They're Slick
Speaker 3: Willy's friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean Chick fil A doesn't get to get off
Speaker 2: the hook.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 3: So we we have anything else on that scene, particularly
Speaker 3: or just the ideas of the serial killer that is Harriet.
Speaker 3: We learned it later as Harriet's sister, and I will
Speaker 3: introduce to us here in a moment, but Rose, that
Speaker 3: is interesting name. And she's Christopher Plummer's daughter. I suppose
Speaker 3: that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: I do have something else to add about this scene,
Speaker 2: but it comes from the mom.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So right after the scene where the dad's talking to
Speaker 2: the detective, guy, Mike Myers is in the kitchen with
Speaker 2: his mom and she's like, oh, I got this juicer
Speaker 2: and she's like talking about going on a diet. Do
Speaker 2: you remember the giet? She said, the Garth Brooks diet. Right,
Speaker 2: So there's all this stuff coming out about Garth Brooks
Speaker 2: being a fucking serial killer. Yeah, Like that's also part
Speaker 2: of the program to Kill story is that Garth Brooks
Speaker 2: is probably a real life fucking serial killer. He has
Speaker 2: been killing people for a while now.
Speaker 1: Yeahs very he's very low.
Speaker 2: I mentioned it in my Nineties series though, because I
Speaker 2: love nineties country and Garth Brooks is definitely one of
Speaker 2: my faves. But he definitely is a serial killer in
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 3: This I mean, remember when gains right and then he
Speaker 3: tried off for the San Diego Padres for to be
Speaker 3: a picture after that, I think, I mean, the dude's
Speaker 3: done some wild ship gil POD's.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was the other thing I'm I noticed
Speaker 2: is that she mentioned she was going on some kind
Speaker 2: of Garth Brooks diet after the dad just got done
Speaker 2: talking about all this other conspiracy shit. It's like, out
Speaker 2: of all the celebrities you could have chosen, you picked
Speaker 2: Garth Brooks diet. Really like, that's I know, right, oddly specific.
Speaker 3: Well, what if the writers at that time, when Garth
Speaker 3: Brooks was definitely a singer at that time, what are
Speaker 3: the writers at that time knew something that we are
Speaker 3: learning now right?
Speaker 2: Also that he said he said, all of these secret
Speaker 2: families meet up in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the airport, the Denver Airport.
Speaker 3: Well, well, not only not only that Nelson or Lawrence
Speaker 3: Rockefeller had a ranch out there when he's naming these families,
Speaker 3: all the Skinwalker ranch and all this alien agenda stuff
Speaker 3: we see from Stephen Greer that all comes from a
Speaker 3: ranch in northern Colorado and by Lawrence Rockefeller.
Speaker 2: Well, that and Stanley Kubrick also took a lot of
Speaker 2: time to film in and around Colorado. John Benet Ramsey
Speaker 2: with her crazy fucking parents and all the eyes wide
Speaker 2: shutters of Colorado, I mean talking, yes, and the Wonderland
Speaker 2: Raids also went through Colorado, so a lot of weird
Speaker 2: And I saw in the chicken the chicken comments, a
Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about the chicken still over here,
Speaker 2: they're talking about how it's code for uh child pornography
Speaker 2: stuff as well. So can't forget that connection with you.
Speaker 3: Forget that.
Speaker 1: Let me throw one more into the mix. That's a
Speaker 1: double j.
Speaker 3: John Denver.
Speaker 2: John Denver is a whole other I've covered him at
Speaker 2: nauseum on my show that that's a whole other conspiracy
Speaker 2: for another time.
Speaker 3: But yes, Oh, I'm glad you said that you covered
Speaker 3: Maryland Monroe recently. Guests who lived in North Beach of
Speaker 3: the same area where this was filmed. This is where
Speaker 3: Joe Demasa is from and when she was married to
Speaker 3: Joe Demagio, they had a home. They were in North
Speaker 3: Beach area, neighborhood of San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: Whoa, and thanks for listening to that. By the way, JJ,
Speaker 2: sorry didn't get back to your email, but yeah, thank
Speaker 2: you for listenings. That's uh rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I hope you found my notes interesting.
Speaker 3: When I'm posing the question is this and this is
Speaker 3: what hiding and we're talking about on Eyes and Ears
Speaker 3: there night is when we unpack these parapolitical scandals and ideas,
Speaker 3: are we really just looking at the machinations of an old,
Speaker 3: old family feud?
Speaker 2: Right exactly?
Speaker 3: Because because old and Rose connected to the Manson family
Speaker 3: murdered herself, her cousin Abigail fold forgot murdered. There isn't
Speaker 3: that weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's to me, stuff just stacks up to
Speaker 2: be honestly too much for a coincidence. And we know this,
Speaker 2: but it's still, you know, disappointing when you when you
Speaker 2: find out about certain things. I'm reading a comment right
Speaker 2: now from Tara Jackson. It says, you know, her mom
Speaker 2: would freak out if she ever heard that John Denver
Speaker 2: was anything, but you know the icon that people think
Speaker 2: he is. Also somebody say, come on, girl, not Denver.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: If you heard my presentation on John Denver, you'd never
Speaker 2: fucking look at him the same.
Speaker 3: Sorry, John, John Didel, You're right.
Speaker 2: Duchendorf, whose father worked the area fifty one.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, that's that's one of the classic Mike
Speaker 3: Myers scenes. And here when you're in the diner and
Speaker 3: they're talking about what are the scary scariest things to happen?
Speaker 1: He's like, hello, maybe it was a pilot to new
Speaker 1: or late from Vegas.
Speaker 3: So what are the other character attributes for scenes that
Speaker 3: stood out to y'all? We wrapped this up for the
Speaker 3: closing scene when we meet the serial killer. What are
Speaker 3: some of the other aspects or characters or the scenes
Speaker 3: that stuck out to y'all.
Speaker 4: I have one about their tartans that they got married in.
Speaker 3: So, oh, well, that's a good time for me to
Speaker 3: play this scene. Can I play the scene first and
Speaker 3: then we'll unpack. This is where Caine blew up my
Speaker 3: brain hole before the show, telling me that this is
Speaker 3: Zach gallifan Akis. That is the piper down in the
Speaker 3: scene in the wedding ceremony reception. And also here we
Speaker 3: see right after Charlie gets married to Harriet and he
Speaker 3: had decided she's not the serial killer from the Weekly
Speaker 3: World News Missus X, he one of the one of
Speaker 3: the people. One of the attributes from Missus X was
Speaker 3: she knew the song only You in like seven different languages.
Speaker 3: So this is the wedding reception with those Tartan gilts
Speaker 3: and the only you song. Ope, not quite yet almost
Speaker 3: and stand by police, I'm working on it. All right,
Speaker 3: there we go. Oh now I messed that up. All right,
Speaker 3: we'll get a go here. I had to the right spot,
Speaker 3: but do not last.
Speaker 1: He gets ahead there, let's get for the goal. Let's
Speaker 1: let's not rick.
Speaker 5: You get that.
Speaker 1: You want my body?
Speaker 4: Give me my co one day to laugh?
Speaker 2: No, like a follow.
Speaker 3: I'm not convinced. That's galifan akus, galvan akus. Look aike,
Speaker 3: I've been had all you've got this.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a paper. Oh, he's just pass
Speaker 1: We have a paper down.
Speaker 3: Repeat. Well there's the uh, I've been had. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's galp that's a galfan atus. Lookike, sir,
Speaker 3: i've been had got you. Yeah, I'm I'm on to you.
Speaker 3: I'm on to you. I'll get you back for this,
Speaker 3: or I'll get you back for this. I was excited
Speaker 3: that I miss something in this film. It was a
Speaker 3: galloping So the Tartan uh you're talking about the.
Speaker 4: The their skirts a k A their skirts, but.
Speaker 3: The color and pattern is is like a it's like
Speaker 3: a crest.
Speaker 4: As a scout.
Speaker 3: The color and the pattern you see there is very
Speaker 3: specific to a clan.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Mackenzie clan and the Mackenzies were actually part
Speaker 4: of the settlers of Scotland, North Scotland, Scotland especially, and
Speaker 4: they were influenced highly into bigger places, basically elevated through
Speaker 4: the king, King Alexander and gave them a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of power. So they're like a hugely powerful family over
Speaker 4: there in Scotland.
Speaker 3: So that is.
Speaker 4: Specifically, yeah, there's and they were originally Norman's just Steph.
Speaker 3: Why so what do you think he would choose the
Speaker 3: name Mackenzie. Do you think maybe he's got some McKenzie heritage.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's very very interesting that he would choose that.
Speaker 4: There was all kind of speculation on it, but they said, oh,
Speaker 4: we think he actually is and I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I don't think any of that. I just think that
Speaker 4: possibly this is another top family. He's mentioning all these names.
Speaker 4: He's doing Getty's, he's doing this and that. Well, in
Speaker 4: Scotland they're the the Rothchild's. Basically they are actually hailed
Speaker 4: to the crown again.
Speaker 3: So interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's.
Speaker 4: Yep. Basically for Scotland, So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3: That is interesting for sure.
Speaker 1: I wonder if what Tara Jackson says here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: watch commentaries on movies. I wonder if there's a commentary
Speaker 1: on the DVD on this. Has anybody seen that I'd
Speaker 1: be interested to know.
Speaker 3: I'm not not tried to watch and we're familiar with it,
Speaker 3: but I'll look for sure. I know you mentioned a scene.
Speaker 3: If you we have no other scenes or characters that
Speaker 3: we want to cover on at the moment before we
Speaker 3: get into the close of the film and closing statements
Speaker 3: on the matters, there was a scene that you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3: Kanaan a character that I'm interested in in the film,
Speaker 3: and that is the police captain who's in charge of
Speaker 3: Charlie's best friend, Anthony Lapalacha's character, the undercover detective that
Speaker 3: Charlie might work for Alan Arkins. So that is the
Speaker 3: scene right here, and I like to discuss Alan arkin
Speaker 3: But why why do you enjoy the scene? What does
Speaker 3: what does the scene do for you that.
Speaker 1: I'll let the scenes speak for itself. But at the
Speaker 1: very end is my favorite part of okay?
Speaker 3: Well, and you want to know what my favorite part is?
Speaker 3: My favorite. Well, no, sir, My favorite part is the
Speaker 3: surprise appearance by zach alliphan Akis in the scene. I
Speaker 3: was like, What'sali galifan Akus doing in the scene? Trust
Speaker 3: me on this one.
Speaker 6: I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, you want to hear the news, Well he is
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 6: It seems that the old lady that confessed to the
Speaker 6: murder of Ralph Elliott has also confessed to a couple
Speaker 6: of other murders. I knew she would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well, she's confessed to the murders of Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 1: Lawren g.
Speaker 3: Harding and Julius Caesar. She's a not case.
Speaker 1: I'm not case.
Speaker 3: My god, I gotta go.
Speaker 4: You screw this one up, pal, and you'll be writing
Speaker 4: pocket tickets for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: You got that, captain? Oh my god?
Speaker 6: Now yeah, if you that was so much better, really terrific.
Speaker 3: It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: The beginning felt pretty good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: I get too much in the end.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, it was really terrific.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. I like the review. He's like, no, you
Speaker 3: did great, you did great.
Speaker 4: Just FYI, they just nailed me for a copyright on this.
Speaker 3: It was probably the song beforehand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't bring you back up. It just they take
Speaker 1: you down for a minute until you take the cobres
Speaker 1: stuff off. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that's a great scene, King, What was your big
Speaker 3: but what was your big moment there that you really
Speaker 3: enjoyed about that?
Speaker 1: Just when he's just like so unsure of himself and
Speaker 1: he's biting his finger after he slammed him against the wall, right,
Speaker 1: he just played the role so Alan Arkin. His movies
Speaker 1: going back to the seventies are just hilarious.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: There was one where it was like one of those
Speaker 1: My Daughters the Bride kind of movies. And then I
Speaker 1: think he was I don't know if he was in
Speaker 1: Schindler's List at Yeah. Steve Martin is another one when
Speaker 1: you when you want to talk about roles like these,
Speaker 1: he's just so powerful that he takes over the scene,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What they they do pay
Speaker 1: a lot of homage in movies back in the nineties
Speaker 1: to the greats that that there were.
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, and that if I may add some
Speaker 3: context to that scene, I do appreciate you bringing that up.
Speaker 3: This is a good scene. But the part earlier in
Speaker 3: the film, though he's complaining to his boss, the police captain.
Speaker 3: He's not serious enough. He wants him to yell he's
Speaker 3: being too kind. He's got no police commissioner to curse
Speaker 3: to him about. He's got report to He's like, well,
Speaker 3: actually I report to a commission He's like, I don't
Speaker 3: even report to an actual person. So he couldn't be
Speaker 3: mad at one person. You know, that whole dialogue is
Speaker 3: just Mike Myers Brian level, brilliant level of comedy. I
Speaker 3: think brought to this film is that dialect.
Speaker 1: It's funny and it's political satire at the same time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, And you know.
Speaker 1: They were pointing out how ridiculous it was then and
Speaker 1: look at Newsoom in California now, you know, so as
Speaker 1: extreme as it could get.
Speaker 3: That's for sure, That's for sure. And they work for
Speaker 3: the Getty's. The Getty's a part of the Pentavern. So
Speaker 3: we see Alan Arkin. You know, he's a pretty legendary dude,
Speaker 3: right and acting. Do you know his dad, Julia, You'll
Speaker 3: appreciate this fun fact. His father wrote a song with
Speaker 3: Three Dog Knight. You know who Three Dog Night is, right,
Speaker 3: of course, they're infamous for being associated or almost associated
Speaker 3: right with the four and the four murders, right right, Yes,
Speaker 3: another Laurel Canyon famous incident.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So his father was David Arkin, a teacher, painter, writer,
Speaker 3: and lyricist, but he did in fact write songs with
Speaker 3: Three Dog Night. In fact, Arkins's most memorable song writing
Speaker 3: contribution was creating the lyrics to the song black and
Speaker 3: White with music by Earl Robinson in nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 3: The song was written to celebrate the United States Supreme
Speaker 3: Court decision of Brown versus the Board of Education, and
Speaker 3: have been recorded by Pete Seeger, Sammy Davis, Junior, Greyhound,
Speaker 3: the mate Zones, and Three Dog Night. Do you know
Speaker 3: who else is a co writer on that song? To
Speaker 3: Jimmy Page, a lot of curly stuff going on in
Speaker 3: that song.
Speaker 1: And then around that guy got Jimmy involved.
Speaker 3: Now back to the fifties with Alan Arkins dad. This
Speaker 3: is long before the who So that's a little fun
Speaker 3: fact that they got him in here, right.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cage was a studio musician very famous for decades
Speaker 1: before he did like Zeppelin.
Speaker 3: You mean like a you mean like a kind of
Speaker 3: Phil Spector studio musician, very.
Speaker 4: Likely speaking of missus X don't you find it kind
Speaker 4: of very mk ultra e that she just knows Russian
Speaker 4: and starts popping off in Russian like didn't I caught
Speaker 4: very mk ultraspy lady Virus.
Speaker 1: Well, how about a little Stanley Cooper reference there for
Speaker 1: missus Julie's right hand man from Clockwork Orange Stanley Cooper
Speaker 1: and the adaptation of Clockwork Orange where English and Russian
Speaker 1: were combined as one language, which makes it an almost
Speaker 1: impossible book to read. It's so much Russian there that
Speaker 1: you know, but you have the Karuba juice bar or
Speaker 1: milk bar, and you know very little Russian words I
Speaker 1: can remember, but.
Speaker 3: The oh, I think it was Schudler's lists list. That's
Speaker 3: a good point that you're bringing up a lot of
Speaker 3: the history of that city. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of Russian stuff that goes on there. I think you know,
Speaker 3: there may be more to the former husband that was
Speaker 3: killed of Harriet's by her sister.
Speaker 4: And then she was into the she was into martial
Speaker 4: arts and it was more than the husband. She said
Speaker 4: she did it too.
Speaker 3: Yes, no.
Speaker 1: There right, So also Chinese influence in San Francisco very much.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry let's meet the killer because she seems like
Speaker 3: a mind controlled assassin, right with her.
Speaker 1: No, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 3: I like that, So we we we finally we see
Speaker 3: Harriet's sister throughout the film intermittently, but we finally learned
Speaker 3: at the end, when he's on the honeymoon at that
Speaker 3: dun Dunsmore house that that it's not Harriet that he's
Speaker 3: convinced of. It's it's surprising because he locks Harry in
Speaker 3: the closet and all of a sudden, the sister comes
Speaker 3: out with the axe, right, and that's where we meet.
Speaker 3: We meet Rose the axe murderer, right, yeah, Chile.
Speaker 4: Chally h.
Speaker 3: Oh that the right.
Speaker 1: That whole rooftop seed is just balls out hilarious.
Speaker 2: Literally, you know when I knew the sister was the
Speaker 2: axe murderer. And mind you, this is the first time
Speaker 2: I ever watched the movie. I always try to guess
Speaker 2: the end to see if I'm right, But I knew
Speaker 2: the sister was the axe murderer when she offered him
Speaker 2: breakfast and then just gave him a bowl of froot loops,
Speaker 2: I knew it was her. I was like, this bitch
Speaker 2: is fucking insane. She was like what do you want
Speaker 2: some fresh grambled eggs, pancakes, shrimp and grits, things, a
Speaker 2: fresh coffee, this and that. And then she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't have any of that, just kidding. Here's a
Speaker 2: bull of froot loops. I was like, she's fruit loops.
Speaker 2: She's the killer. She's the fucking killer. And I was
Speaker 2: right as soon as I saw her at the end
Speaker 2: of the movie, I was like, I fucking knew it.
Speaker 2: Rose is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty wild term events there. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a shame along twist ale events, right.
Speaker 3: And you again, you know it's all very you know,
Speaker 3: it's not really rooted in that history they give you,
Speaker 3: but it's all they give you, this beat poet history
Speaker 3: of the whole place, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also, can I just say it never made sense
Speaker 2: to me since the ending of the movie was that
Speaker 2: the sister really did kill all of her husbands. It
Speaker 2: never made sense to me where they had to have
Speaker 2: the girl best friend named Ralph and not explain why
Speaker 2: the fuck her name would be Ralph, Like, she's clearly married,
Speaker 2: she was married to a guy named Ralph, So why.
Speaker 3: Ralph, you do?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, why have.
Speaker 2: To incorporate the female friend that's named Ralph and then
Speaker 2: not give any backstory to that whatsoever.
Speaker 3: To me, so's a solid point.
Speaker 2: It was like, why was that necessary? Because we now
Speaker 2: know she really was married to a guy named Ralph
Speaker 2: and she's like calling his name out sexually while she's sleeping,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, this weird female friend
Speaker 2: named Ralph comes in. It's like, unless your name is
Speaker 2: Ralph Fina or some shit like that, get the fuck
Speaker 2: out of the movie. I don't like you.
Speaker 5: Why are you here?
Speaker 4: Well, and the part where they they were in bed,
Speaker 4: that's it's like right by that scene Julia's talking about
Speaker 4: and she's like, so I could just do anything to
Speaker 4: you and stick a needle in your ear and all
Speaker 4: this weird stuff. And I'm like, Okay, that's getting pretty
Speaker 4: out there. But then after that, like they're outside, it
Speaker 4: shows them kind of messing around later and then he's
Speaker 4: talking about like evil, like he says it like doctor Evil,
Speaker 4: and then he's yeah, but he's the fruit of the devil.
Speaker 4: And then he says, let's go dance in the night.
Speaker 4: And I'm like that's pretty satanic for just a little
Speaker 4: Where were.
Speaker 3: They when they did that, where were they standing because
Speaker 3: again but no, but they were in like a park,
Speaker 3: because yeah, because you got you gotta think though, because
Speaker 3: this is this is San Francisco, this is the sight
Speaker 3: of the first public Satanic church in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4: Right, it was weird. I think that was a weird nod.
Speaker 2: And then she was like, well, what would be brutal
Speaker 2: to someone else might not be brutal.
Speaker 3: It like the whole you are making some good points.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring that scene up because please continue, because
Speaker 3: that's a good scene.
Speaker 2: Oh, bring it up.
Speaker 3: No, go, please continue though, that's I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's just.
Speaker 2: Say, let's just say, at the end of the movie,
Speaker 2: we realized Harriet really isn't the axe murderer and she's
Speaker 2: just a regular girl. She was fucking weird. She was
Speaker 2: weird enough to not want to be in a relationship
Speaker 2: with just on the face for being a fucking weirdo.
Speaker 1: No, they literally build the character as to make you
Speaker 1: please a suspect of her. She's so sweet on the
Speaker 1: one side that she wants to six tough in your years,
Speaker 1: and then the plot plot twists. Obviously supposed to be
Speaker 1: he still.
Speaker 2: Asks her to marry him, even after she said the
Speaker 2: weird stick of needle in your ear comment is like,
Speaker 2: just on that alone, I wouldn't be push you off
Speaker 2: a bridge. Yeah, yeah, anything to you while you're sleeping,
Speaker 2: all right, my bitch, I'm not fucking sticking around to
Speaker 2: find out what that's most to me.
Speaker 4: I don't want to screw that.
Speaker 3: Helloints because these folks were there too, on the non
Speaker 3: muppetized version of these folks were there too along with
Speaker 3: a click in the Church of Satan and Antonina Bay
Speaker 3: all in San Francisco at this time, right, you know,
Speaker 3: in the late sixties there, right, So again this is
Speaker 3: looking at a nod of history. You know, you all
Speaker 3: bring up some good points about these fruits of the devil,
Speaker 3: as he puts it, right, And I got that scene
Speaker 3: for us right here, if y'all don't mind a play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I was nice. Nice.
Speaker 3: Evidently you think of me as fast forward to that
Speaker 3: actual portion of the scene, otherwise they're going to probably
Speaker 3: strike us again. They're thinking it's right there.
Speaker 12: Word, I mean, what's brutal to one person?
Speaker 1: For example? How many people have you brutally murdered?
Speaker 4: Brutal is a very subjective word.
Speaker 12: I meant, to one person might be totally reasonable to
Speaker 12: somebody else.
Speaker 4: When they're in bed, they're like in bed, Oh the.
Speaker 1: Pin really evil?
Speaker 3: Good college that was after that? Do you think of
Speaker 3: me as a woman? Friend?
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 4: Nothing, Charlie.
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And then one bad thing you've done.
Speaker 3: Things. That's the presidio, that's the presidio, that's the presidio,
Speaker 3: the around presidio, Army base there, really, I thought, so
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure before I said that that you.
Speaker 10: Would say it was evil, like it's the shrits of
Speaker 10: the devil, evil.
Speaker 3: Example, Are you all kidding me?
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like, wait a second, that they're standing right
Speaker 3: there and that's the presidio, and I'll pull up the
Speaker 3: map to prove that in the mat we we watched
Speaker 3: the rest of the scene, but that's just blowing my
Speaker 3: brain at the moment because uh yeah, yeah, sample JJ
Speaker 3: is that on the Oakland sid No, I'll bring I'll
Speaker 3: bring a map.
Speaker 12: Brutle is a very subjective word. I mean, what's brutal
Speaker 12: to one person might be totally reasonable to somebody else.
Speaker 3: It's eh, it's actually Lucasfilms. That's that's the portion of
Speaker 3: of the presidio that Lucasfilms took over by the way,
Speaker 3: just saying, no, no coincidence there, I'm sure no, But
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bringing a picture of that view here. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I'll show her exactly where that's that again. I'm
Speaker 3: a bootleg my. My folks out there, my dudes and
Speaker 3: some of their folks jokingly call me Joshua Norton, the
Speaker 3: Emperor Joshua Norton, and from his character out there that
Speaker 3: just kind of floats around as always, you know, just
Speaker 3: floating around people's houses and partying places and whatnot. If
Speaker 3: you all familiar with that legend San Francisco, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: that's a great one. I just uh gotta take a
Speaker 3: quick detour on that one then, and uh introduce y'all
Speaker 3: to Emperor Norton. He was the emperor of America and Mexico.
Speaker 3: According to him, he created, he wore a uniform. He
Speaker 3: he like I said, he made his own money. He
Speaker 3: the you know, places of San Francisco would just give
Speaker 3: him food and stuff like that and take his his
Speaker 3: currency that he would make. Folks would just let him
Speaker 3: stay at their homes and stuff. The entire city shut
Speaker 3: down when he died, like he like, you know, a
Speaker 3: tremendous amount of people decided to come. Yeah. Norton the
Speaker 3: first Emperor of the United States, commonly known as Emperor
Speaker 3: Norton secondary title Protector of Mexico in eighteen sixty six.
Speaker 3: He lived from eighteen eighteen to eighteen eighty, and from
Speaker 3: eighteen sixty to eighteen eighty he lived on the streets
Speaker 3: of San Francisco, and no one really knew where he
Speaker 3: came from or his backstory. I mean, there's claims, but
Speaker 3: when he died, I think it was like ten thousand
Speaker 3: people came to his funeral. Interesting character, one of the
Speaker 3: many aspects I appreciated the history of San Francisco. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he uh yeah, ten thousand people. You know, the next
Speaker 3: day of the San Francisco Chronicle herbcane beating the guy
Speaker 3: invented that, and we saw the scene from earlier there
Speaker 3: the chronicle under the headline whatever, that says that some
Speaker 3: ten thousand people had come to view the Emperor's body
Speaker 3: in advance of the two PM funeral. So that was
Speaker 3: in the funeral, That's what I'm saying. This dude was
Speaker 3: a you know, a very beloved character out there, and
Speaker 3: he was an interesting, uh eccentric you know again he
Speaker 3: made his own money and declared himself the King of
Speaker 3: America and Mexico Emperor. But the h a lot of
Speaker 3: interesting characters in San Francisco. But nonetheless, what we saw
Speaker 3: there was with the damn it?
Speaker 1: What was that going the people's church? Wasn't that what
Speaker 1: it was called in San Francisco?
Speaker 3: From Dude TV uh Jude Worths mac car, Dude, War's
Speaker 3: my car?
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, Where's my car?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 2: People's temple, People's Temple?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: I was just going to keep stone wall stone facing
Speaker 3: the stonewall until until Julia answered you.
Speaker 2: You knew I would would fail eventually.
Speaker 3: I know you were gonna come in there and answer.
Speaker 1: I just want to keep giving them the wrong answer,
Speaker 1: you know, real cool aide flavoring. Did I hear that
Speaker 1: from you?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, Julie is an expert in these things. I
Speaker 3: mean I know much about one up my brain a
Speaker 3: couple of times. So here we go. We just saw
Speaker 3: this scene right there, Boom, look at that. Why are
Speaker 3: they on the presidio?
Speaker 2: Probably because they were sucking and fucking with Michael a Quinto.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they're talking about dancing with Satan in the
Speaker 3: night on the presiding.
Speaker 2: That that's why I'm saying that, what'sground to talk about tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Are you serious? First of all, I'm not offended you
Speaker 3: don't know the background in the per city. I'm offended
Speaker 3: you didn't listen to my show last Thursday after you
Speaker 3: told me you did. I got a bone to pick
Speaker 3: with you, sir, got a bone to pick with you. Now.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's an infamous, uh Satanist scandal of
Speaker 3: an army daycare rapes that are infamous for all the
Speaker 3: wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's that's real.
Speaker 3: No, I'm no, I'm saying I'm messing with Panes Air Base.
Speaker 3: It was an army It was an army base. Its actually. Well,
Speaker 3: tune in tomorrow night, folks, if you want to hear
Speaker 3: more about the Presidio daycare scandal, I'll be reading the
Speaker 3: law enforcement documents that implicated Michael Lokinos, the guy from
Speaker 3: Fort Bragg Special Forces syops guy dude tying into all
Speaker 3: that Idaho stuff and Idaho contra in Fort Bragg. But
Speaker 3: tune in tomorrow for Operation GCD Thursdays, where I'll be
Speaker 3: unpacking more of these ideas and again reading the law
Speaker 3: enforcement documents of this Presidio daycare scandal involving the non
Speaker 3: muppetized version of this guy that's at that same base
Speaker 3: that we just again as you all blown my mind.
Speaker 3: I didn't even pick up on that until you just
Speaker 3: said something about the devils and the dance, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait a second, that was the say I clicked as
Speaker 3: soon as you said that. I'm like, I've seen again.
Speaker 3: I've seen this so many times. That's what I'm happy
Speaker 3: we have these discussions, and I appreciate your all time attention,
Speaker 3: conversation and participations and the folks of the interwebs, But yeah,
Speaker 3: this is I mean, I can watch this a bunch
Speaker 3: of times and I never put all that together for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, whatever reason, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you all, you also have to have to say
Speaker 1: it does have a beautiful view despite what happened. There
Speaker 1: is a lovely view.
Speaker 3: Some of the most beautiful views.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know another movie they moved They used that in
Speaker 1: I Realize is at the about the midpoint of the
Speaker 1: movie The Interns. Has anybody seen that very sexually kind
Speaker 1: of charged conversation. Nobody's seen the end using the interns.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: The interns, the interns, the internship.
Speaker 1: Did I say, Did I say R?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Might I might be saying, No, it's
Speaker 3: the internship, People's church.
Speaker 1: It's the people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, you know, I'm a fight in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: One minute. You're in a blender. That's this tall? What
Speaker 1: saving lives?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. No, that's uh, that's a
Speaker 3: that's a Silicon valley just south of, just south of
Speaker 3: the the San Francisco metropolitan area. So if I may,
Speaker 3: it is I may offer some folks some closing thoughts
Speaker 3: in your moment, but I may bring us in for
Speaker 3: a landing here with my uh cocaine bob connections, if
Speaker 3: you will, If you all don't mind, but I do
Speaker 3: want to mention some of.
Speaker 4: The one thing before you go, JJ that lady that
Speaker 4: played miss whatever.
Speaker 3: Let me put a let me put a book in
Speaker 3: on Cane's common real quick though money. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 3: with you, sir. This is some of the most beautiful
Speaker 3: views I've ever seen where this skeleton Citty, I have
Speaker 3: about nine different shots to be and me and my dudes,
Speaker 3: they're my my brothers, because again, this is my favorite
Speaker 3: view looking over the city. He said, if you looked
Speaker 3: down here to the right, that's where the photographer we're
Speaker 3: just looking from at the other end of that, you know,
Speaker 3: the opposite end from the hill here in the Golden
Speaker 3: Gate Bridge. That's the preceding that we were just looking
Speaker 3: at right there for relatives.
Speaker 1: So it's like an open area kind of thing there at.
Speaker 3: Well that there's just a park up there's just a
Speaker 3: park like a bluff. I just it's the you know
Speaker 3: that whoever ended that painting of the garryful Dad, they
Speaker 3: had it right, because that's the best view in the city.
Speaker 1: On the side where the skeleton is to the right
Speaker 1: to his right, there's a really killer video of a
Speaker 1: surfer because there's a breaking wave there and he's there's
Speaker 1: a great white shark circling around him and all the
Speaker 1: people in this beach like shark and he just takes
Speaker 1: board and hits the because it's probably so hard to
Speaker 1: get there. He has to work all day, and there's
Speaker 1: these good ways. It's like, that's not stupid, shark.
Speaker 3: And if folks do want to go to the presidio
Speaker 3: and they want to do some campgrounds action at the presidio.
Speaker 3: Legally speaking, they do have a campground there. I highly
Speaker 3: recommend rob Hill Campground. And the view from this area
Speaker 3: is it's pretty ridiculous. It's pretty stupid. Let me just
Speaker 3: give you a quick quick peeking what that looks like here?
Speaker 2: Ever want to go because all I'd be thinking about
Speaker 2: is all the little kids getting raped.
Speaker 3: You don't want to camp right here? Beautiful?
Speaker 1: It really is so beautiful.
Speaker 2: There are many beautiful places in Oregon too. I'll check
Speaker 2: out where they felonies. Oh wait, those kids got raped to.
Speaker 1: The only.
Speaker 3: Can we go somewhere without kid rape? But I'm not
Speaker 3: sure that we can.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, is like anywhere I want to go,
Speaker 2: it's like kids get raped here because.
Speaker 3: Not my house, So I guess I'm safe here. I
Speaker 3: guess I can't go outside. I go to the grocery
Speaker 3: store or the McDonald's or wherever else we're downtown. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It sounds like those are hotspots
Speaker 3: that kind of activity. Dude R. Kelly, when he gets
Speaker 3: out of prison for getting indicted up there in Chicago,
Speaker 3: initially for deadling kids, he goes back to the rock
Speaker 3: and roll McDonald's they call it. They're in Chicago. He
Speaker 3: goes back to that Barry Sam McDonalds where he'd victized
Speaker 3: no fewer than three victims.
Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm saying. That's his first Sime donald
Speaker 2: is not even safe.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why I was bringing up R.
Speaker 3: Kelly's first stop was back to rock and roll McDonald's
Speaker 3: and Bill Moore kids. He just got out, dude, he
Speaker 3: just literally an hour earlier. He posted bond some lady
Speaker 3: who owned daycare centers to one hundred thousand dollars bond
Speaker 3: for him to get out of initially. And then they
Speaker 3: go to a rock and roll McDonald's. How dark does
Speaker 3: that get? That's not saying that's not the tail rats
Speaker 3: and I here, folks, that's yeah, that's true story. So
Speaker 3: let me close it out here with my favorite boat
Speaker 3: Cocaine Bob connection. What film will not be complete without
Speaker 3: Cocaine Bob's friends being involved? Right? Excuse me, I'm with
Speaker 3: the San Francisco Police Department.
Speaker 6: This is official police business. I would like to commenty
Speaker 6: of this vehicle. No, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I happen to know for a fact that you don't
Speaker 3: have the right to commentate my vehicle.
Speaker 4: Please can I commentate this vehicle?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I appreciated that scene from and still do from a
Speaker 3: constitution rights perspective, because he does not have a right
Speaker 3: to comment to his vehicle. But that is in fact
Speaker 3: Charles Grodin who got his first role Curtsy of old
Speaker 3: Cocaine Bob Evans in that Roman Polanski Cocaine Bob satanic
Speaker 3: shit shit show of cinema Rosemary's Baby, you played. He
Speaker 3: played the psychiatrist.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, I see where you're going with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So from it seems like including y'all bringing us
Speaker 3: to my attention with the presidio, Satanism, dancing in the night,
Speaker 3: being the devil, evil shit and and killing folks. We're
Speaker 3: talking about k on folks in that scene in a
Speaker 3: movie about serial killers with nods to the Zodiac. I
Speaker 3: could not be more surprised than I do appreciate. I'll
Speaker 3: bring that to my attention because as you can see
Speaker 3: from the Satanism stuff going on there in these connections here,
Speaker 3: it seems like that's an undertone to the film. But
Speaker 3: if I can pass it around to all of y'all
Speaker 3: for round, tables. I appreciate you all join me for
Speaker 3: the discussion and from each one of y'all blom my
Speaker 3: brain the holes, except for you know, the fake one
Speaker 3: with Galfin Atkis, which I'll get you, sir, I will
Speaker 3: get you for that one.
Speaker 1: But you.
Speaker 4: So, you guys know Nancy cut her finger off in
Speaker 4: the filming of the show, and they had.
Speaker 3: To read, yeah, what so if I may pass it
Speaker 3: around for closing saments, Nancy Travis cut off her finger
Speaker 3: in the film, right, yep, well.
Speaker 4: Reattached the tip. Yeah wild so yes, I am Heidi
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Speaker 4: that's it for me. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: Can you give us a close well, thank you, Heidi,
Speaker 3: thank you man. Can you give us a closing statement
Speaker 3: on the film or the discussion?
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, I definitely think you guys are right. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of undertones here that are evil, like the devil,
Speaker 4: just like he said.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 4: Definitely.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate your time, Heidi and Julia. Do you
Speaker 3: have pleased any plugs or any closing statements on tonight's discussion. Again,
Speaker 3: thank you for joining me here to get a little GCD.
Speaker 2: I always love getting a little g c D because
Speaker 2: I watch movies I probably would never have known about before.
Speaker 2: I definitely enjoyed watching this one for the first time.
Speaker 2: It's gonna go up there in my in my list
Speaker 2: of faves. Actually, I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, something to show your your son to in
Speaker 3: the future, right right, Yeah, yeah. I showed it to
Speaker 3: my son when he was like six or seven, probably
Speaker 3: maybe a little too young, but you know, I I
Speaker 3: definitely enjoyed showing, you know, sharing this film with him
Speaker 3: my manner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many of the classics, you
Speaker 2: know that I would want my kids to to watch
Speaker 2: like I did, and this is definitely probably going to
Speaker 2: be up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's riding in the comedy for me that I appreciate,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like that's like amongst other
Speaker 3: films like this is when I was introduced to my son,
Speaker 3: Like you got to appreciate the film, you know, these
Speaker 3: are the aspects you know, and discussing with and doing
Speaker 3: our own film review, mine and his film review. You know,
Speaker 3: I discussed it with him. You know, these are the
Speaker 3: aspects that I appreciate. What are the aspects that he appreciates.
Speaker 3: We would do this about a lot of films, but
Speaker 3: I would always emphasize, you know, the comedy in the writing.
Speaker 3: You know, these are always my favorite and this is
Speaker 3: up there at the.
Speaker 2: Top of that list, right, Oh yeah, I mean some
Speaker 2: of the ones we've covered already, like Back to the
Speaker 2: Future obviously, the Golden Child with Eddie Murphy. These are
Speaker 2: all movies that I grew up watching, and so I
Speaker 2: was going to tie it in, uh to our Back
Speaker 2: to the Future conversations they with this movie. It's all
Speaker 2: about the power of pus. It's very simplistic. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: the storyline that comedy was on point. I do have
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Speaker 2: I do want to talk to you about a program
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Speaker 2: if you'll have me, And thanks so much. This has
Speaker 2: been another great one.
Speaker 3: Program serial Killers. You're talking my language, ma'am, so for sure,
Speaker 3: and thank you again, and I appreciate your inputs. And
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Speaker 3: What do you got? What do you got?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 3: I appreciate your time joining me here to gain GCD
Speaker 3: here tonight and uh, we'll get a little GCD. We
Speaker 3: got a lot of GCD. I think, be quite honest
Speaker 3: with you. And what are your closing statements? Any plugs
Speaker 3: of pursins you want to plug?
Speaker 1: I'm king b I'm kind of a big deal. Play
Speaker 1: us out?
Speaker 3: JJ, What does that mean? Play us out? If anyway's
Speaker 3: up here, it's the bill O'Reilly clipp where he loses
Speaker 3: his mind when he can't figure out what play us
Speaker 3: out means. Now, I appreciate everyone's time and attention, and again, folks,
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Speaker 3: you know, logic, get real GCD again. I'm I'm completely
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Speaker 3: the twixters and uh talking, I'm definitely gonna be falling
Speaker 3: up on this topic because I want to understand what
Speaker 3: else is going on here with some maybe the writing staff.
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, who knows about that presidio being
Speaker 3: that deep? And you know, I know they had this scandal,
Speaker 3: but I mean, there's got to be.
Speaker 1: A greater It takes a lot of lot of work
Speaker 1: to have subtext like that.
Speaker 3: You're right, That's what I'm saying. It's not Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not a passing scandal that happened five years before this
Speaker 3: movie was written, right, I just don't see that as
Speaker 3: being the connection center. You know my thoughts there. But
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