WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen? 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 3 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:29.120 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. Today we've got some ogs 4 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.239 with us people haven't been on in a while or 5 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:34.840 on as often. Today we got returning with us, Teresa 6 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.240 the Spiritual Gangster. What is going on, Teresa? How's it been? 7 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.079 It's been good, it's been busy? What good? 8 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.799 Yes, thank you of course, and thank you for joining us. 9 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.320 Do you want to plug anything, mention anything? 10 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:48.359 Yeah? 11 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.520 Sure, So I've been really busy doing some handmade stuff, 12 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:53.679 which is what I've done for a long time. But 13 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.359 I have this new thing which you're kindly letting me 14 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:57.079 plug on here. 15 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:58.719 It's called silly pops. 16 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:03.159 So if any ones into like sensory stuff like slime 17 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:05.480 picky pads, I don't know if anyone's heard of that. 18 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.439 So basically what I've made is this thing right here. 19 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:08.879 Hold on. 20 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.000 You can see it on the camera if you're watching 21 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.079 on video. I'm holding it up so it's like a 22 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:16.319 silicone puck and it's got all these like beads and 23 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.359 charms and like different textures inside. 24 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.239 It's very squishy there. 25 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:23.159 It goes very squishy and very fun and when the 26 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.640 fun part is when you pop everything out, it's like 27 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.760 super satisfying, just like when you play with slime. 28 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:29.000 Right. 29 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:34.120 So in the kit though, I include like string and 30 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.400 like a keychain thing, so you can like actually make 31 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:39.519 something with it, so not just like squishing stuff and 32 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.920 then putting it back in the jar. You can actually 33 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.719 do stuff like make a keychain, bracelet charm. So if 34 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.920 you have kids who are into sensory things I know 35 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.400 a lot of like autistic children or adhd uh, it's 36 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.040 really good for keeping them busy like a fidget toy. 37 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.519 So yeah, I'm doing that right now. I'm in a 38 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.840 couple stores, which is great. Some markets coming up, so 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.280 you're in like the Toronto area, come see me. And 40 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:06.120 on Instagram it's at Silly pop Shop and it's on 41 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.400 Etsy under Silly pop Shop as well. 42 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.479 So yeah, thanks for letting me do my thing. 43 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.639 Hell yeah, no, of course, of course that ship I 44 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.560 think that shit is. It's awesome checking out everything you've 45 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.639 been posting. It's a someome good for you, and uh, 46 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.639 thank you for joining us today. It's been a while, 47 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.080 you know, always look forward to Robbie, story Time with Robbie. 48 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.280 And story marks. I can't miss that. 49 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:30.039 Yeah, so thank you very much, and uh Ahlenk's for 50 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:31.960 her and Spiritual Gangsters will be down in the bottom 51 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.680 anyway well as well. Thank you and Frida, Jena Ninja 52 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:36.360 what is going on? 53 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.560 Thank you Cardinal. Sorry, I can't figure out my micros. Yeah, 54 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:44.400 thank you so much. That's so cool to hear that 55 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.719 Teresa is doing that. So thanks big, big support and 56 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.080 shout out to that, because that's that's really amazing to 57 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.879 like do a brand and a product. I know it's 58 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:54.879 a lot of work, so it is. 59 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.039 It's good though, it's interesting. 60 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.120 It's really cool, it's really shit. Looks like it's like 61 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.159 belongs in the store. It's pretty impressive. 62 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:05.639 That's right, I feel is key. 63 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:09.199 Oh so Jen, do you want to plug your h Yeah, 64 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:09.840 sorry about that. 65 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.680 So you can find me at Wukong Reborn to the 66 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.759 UK and g Reborn I chose called Threshold Saints. Obviously, uh, 67 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:20.120 Robbie and Nick were a big part of that book. 68 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.360 They were the part of the Book of Enoch series. Obviously, 69 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:25.520 Robbie was the storyteller for that and Nick and I 70 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:30.319 were kind of the captive audience slash comment extra commentator. 71 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.159 So thank you so much for that. I was like, 72 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.240 the first Robbie Mark series on my feed, So really 73 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.039 cool to have done that and made that full journey. 74 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:41.840 So thank you so much, Helly, thank you very much. 75 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.520 I enjoyed that as well. And we got Lisa the 76 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.080 occult Reject, mad Scientist, how will you? 77 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:49.039 Good? 78 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.319 Thank you for inviting me. I am very excited to 79 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.560 be on with Robbie Mark's story time. I hear all 80 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.159 the amazing things about it, So this is my first 81 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:01.759 story time with Robbie, very very excited. The only thing 82 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.719 I need to plug is the Cult Research institu dot org. 83 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.919 Some of our contributors have some of the rejects have 84 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:11.800 contributed to the website content in literary form, so check 85 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.879 us out there and Accult Research Institute dot org. 86 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:18.360 Thank you, thank you very much, appreciate that. And we 87 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.120 got the Cosmic Peach Julia herself, what is going on? 88 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:22.720 How are you? 89 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:24.519 What's up? 90 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.759 This is my first story time too, and I couldn't 91 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:30.480 ask for a better crew of people to do it with. 92 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.720 We've got Teresa, Lisa, Robbie jin Oh my goodness. This 93 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.839 is a dream team. Yeah, Cosmic Peach podcast, you know 94 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.199 the drill, but excited to be here. Robbie looking forward 95 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:44.160 to it. 96 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.720 It's nice, all right, So we got Robbie Marx. What 97 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.519 is going on? So we're going to be talking about 98 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.600 the origins of Attis. So let everybody know too, like 99 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.160 where they can find all your stuff in your art 100 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:55.959 and everything. Please. 101 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:58.920 Yeah, And for those who don't know who I am, 102 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.560 I'm an artist. I'm doing professional art for thirty five 103 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:06.839 years for various bands, festivals, mom and pop shops, logos, 104 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:12.199 anything anybody really needs. And basically I just grind away 105 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.560 at that. And while I'm doing that, I have books 106 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.879 going in the background, and I'm constantly researching and taking notes, 107 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.600 and I build these databases of these various notes and 108 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.040 kind of today, Oh, before that, I was going to say, 109 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.879 if you want to find all my stuff, you can 110 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.639 go to my link tree, which is link tree r 111 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.240 m r X and that'll pull up everything for me 112 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:38.199 as far as my website, my Etsy, my Patreon, my podcast, 113 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.959 everything you want to find is going to be there. So, 114 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:46.160 but today we're going to cover the origins of Attis. 115 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:50.600 This character, he's a Phrygian character and this ties back 116 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.680 into some of the earliest origins of the mystery schools. 117 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.160 Thank you yeah, I don't know anything about it. 118 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.639 So correct. 119 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:04.759 Where you want to like this, wherever you like to start. 120 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:10.319 Now, when we go into the Egyptians, the priest Salron, 121 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.639 they acknowledge the fact that the Phrygians were a nation 122 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:19.279 that was older even than the Egyptians, right, And Josephus 123 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.879 says that the Phrygians were founded by the biblical figure 124 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:31.920 of Togaram Togarma. And this Togarma is basically in the 125 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.759 line of Noah. He's associated with the line of Jaffat 126 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.879 and the people of Anatolia, which in that line we 127 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.040 also find Cagnus, who is the one that brought the 128 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:47.920 writing and the characters into ancient Greece from the east, right, 129 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.839 And it's also generally associated with the line of the 130 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:59.399 Hebrew people and the foundations of Armenia. So now the Phrygians, 131 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:06.920 they are possibly Thracians, settling in the northwestern Anatolia in 132 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:12.360 the late second millennia BC, upon the disintegration of the 133 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.720 Hittite kingdom. So this is a really old kind of 134 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.199 you know, when we get into the Samerians. We've talked 135 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.519 about the Samerians before in regard to their culture. It 136 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.120 just emerges out of nothing, just full form, and they 137 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.160 have you know, writers and actors and doctors and surgeons 138 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.759 and like cookbooks, and they already have methods of accounting 139 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.519 and bookkeeping, and so you know, they just kind of 140 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.560 appear out of nothing as this full form. And this 141 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.079 is after the deluge, and you kind of get into 142 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:49.399 with the Samerian kings lists. You know, it's basically the 143 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:53.720 pre Deluvian kings before the global flood. And they have 144 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:58.120 a character very similar to Noah, which is Zasudra. And 145 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.360 so this kind of time ties in with the Western 146 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:08.360 ideas of the Bible and Judaism and this idea of 147 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:13.439 the global flood, and they are a post flood kind 148 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:22.759 of society right now. The Phrygians moving to the Central Highlands, 149 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:30.439 founding their capital of Gordium, with an important religious center 150 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.679 at Midas City. So this is where we get King 151 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:41.279 midas Is in ancients. Yeah, exactly exactly. Herodotus of Halikarnassis 152 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.039 tells us that the Phrygians were in fact Thracian Brigians 153 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.320 who had once crossed the Hellespont in the histories, also 154 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.720 telling us that the Phrygians are the parents of the 155 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.759 Armenian people. So this ties in with our Armenians again. 156 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.399 See now an oar Nobius considered Addis to be a 157 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:10.480 Lydian word meaning young man. Right, So this Addis character, 158 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:18.039 he's kind of this suppliant of the goddess Kibili and 159 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.919 kind of is madly in love with her. And this 160 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:27.120 is basically the foundations of the Phrygian mystery schools, which 161 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:32.879 when you see ancient Phrygia you see the revolution like 162 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:38.480 the Papa Smurf type hat. Yeah, that's the Phrygian cap. 163 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.960 So this is where the Phrygian cap comes from, right, 164 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.480 and that hat it dates all the way back into 165 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:51.440 the Saturnian age. Who was it one of the ancient 166 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:55.639 Saturnian uh? I remember it as we go. But he 167 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:59.960 basically was the god of the pine tree, and Addis 168 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.799 is the god of the pine tree, just like Osyrus 169 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:05.600 was the god of the great fir. Just so you 170 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:14.879 see all these different castrated like religious figures being associated 171 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.200 with different types of trees in the different lands as 172 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:23.759 this mythology spreads, right, and it's generally because the trees 173 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.919 of the pine tree, the fir tree, these are evergreen trees. 174 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.679 They're symbols of everlasting life. So it's the idea that 175 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.360 even in the winter when the snow would come, the 176 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.080 evergreen trees would still stay green and would be the 177 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.159 only color you would see in the winter time, much 178 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.919 like where I live here in New Hampshire. So this 179 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:48.639 was basically this idea of the afterlife and the possibility 180 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:53.399 of the individual soul moving into a higher form and 181 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.840 living into eternity. Whereas you know, when you look at 182 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:00.720 a lot of the ancient cultures, they believe that you 183 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.639 would die and go to a holding place or a 184 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.480 middle ground or some sort of a place to wait 185 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.120 for the end of time. Whereas this is an emerging 186 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.120 thought form that is basically bringing about this idea of 187 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:20.200 higher ascended levels of being in much like you see 188 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:25.639 in some Judaism, such certain sects, certain sects of Judaism don't. 189 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:27.600 Believe in afterlife whereas others do. 190 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:32.200 And then you have the Christians in regard to Jesus, 191 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:36.759 you know, opening the way for everyone to ascend the heavens. 192 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:40.399 So you see this evolving idea, you know, going back 193 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.000 I would say upwards of at least ten to twelve 194 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:50.559 thousand years. We have documented evidence of this evolving thought form. Right, 195 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.120 Let's see now, our Nobius considered addis to be a 196 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:02.159 Lydian word a young man, I said that, right, and 197 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:08.320 others believe that addis to be uh derived from the 198 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:15.440 Phrygian attagus, which means goat. Right, So there's this idea 199 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:21.000 within yeah, within Addis of this. You know, his name 200 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.480 directly relates to the goat, and he is raised and 201 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:29.200 fed by goats, just like his grand Once you get 202 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:34.240 to the Greek mythologies and relations to Addis and Agatus, 203 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:39.159 Zeus himself was also fed by a goat when he 204 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.480 was hidden away. This goat amethea that basically they end 205 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.919 up slaughtering and the different parts become these sacred objects 206 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:47.919 in Greek mythology. 207 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:53.000 I have a quick question for you, actually, so this character, 208 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:57.120 this is like a mystical being or does does he 209 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:01.519 have like any divine or supernatural abilities or was he 210 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:04.000 more like a prophet type of person? 211 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:04.919 Right? 212 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:06.120 Right, that's a good question. 213 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:12.240 When you look back at Atis, he is well, he 214 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:17.039 sprung forth by mother Kibili and she is an androgen. 215 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.840 This gets into the virgin births right, as far as 216 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:25.480 mother Mary being a virgin birth and just so you 217 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.759 have this idea of parthogenesis is really what it is. 218 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:35.080 And parthogenesis is the idea that within certain animal kingdoms, 219 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:41.159 certain species can inseminate themselves and basically create their own children. 220 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.840 And this happens in amphibians, this happens in snakes, this 221 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:50.360 happens in There is a botanist in Sweden named Lynn 222 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.559 Cantrell that wrote a whole book on parthogenesis and she 223 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.799 estimates that after the Great Flood that humanity was in 224 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.159 such a state of chaos that it's It's like when 225 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:07.840 the horseshoe crab raises its tail in the ocean and 226 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.039 the hormones that are in the water tell them how 227 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.320 many boys and how many girls there are, and it 228 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.080 tells them how to you know, whether to make more 229 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.320 boys or more boys or girls to stabilize the population. 230 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.639 That there's this idea that you know, humanity and the 231 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:26.480 genetics from such stress that women begin to inciminate themselves 232 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.080 and have the oh yeah, yeah yeah, so and this 233 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:34.720 is you know, but it directly ties into the idea 234 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:40.039 of these virgin bursts of these and if you figure 235 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.519 and you take the woman's genetics and she has everything 236 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:47.320 to reproduce the male just basically provides some variability in 237 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:49.960 the equation as far as so you don't get, you know, 238 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.519 too much repetition and mutation. But if you take the 239 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:59.600 pure genetics of the same programming and combine them together, 240 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.799 the idea, at least within my mind, is that you're 241 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:08.120 creating these vessels that are of a different frequency, that 242 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:12.480 are more open to higher energies kind of subsiding within them. 243 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:17.120 So you know, basically this Attus character being an offspring 244 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:23.480 of the Andrew John Mother Kibili is a mortal man 245 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.879 and he's not immortal, but at the same time, he's 246 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:31.320 the offspring of the gods and he's like higher sended form, 247 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:36.080 so he but he's the suppultant and he loves Mother Kibili, 248 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:42.080 so basically he devotes his life to her as a 249 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:47.159 as a he becomes a priest basically, or a priestess 250 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:49.279 of a Mother Kibli. 251 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:51.039 At one point, do. 252 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.679 You find it interesting that like it's it's kind of 253 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.799 like you were saying with the evolution of people thinking 254 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:03.879 about the afterlife, and how you mentioned like most of 255 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.440 them believed that you had to go to this purgatory 256 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:09.240 resting place and then it was like out of nowhere. 257 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:14.200 Everybody there was like a surge of higher thinking, like 258 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.679 maybe we don't go to some weird locker room in 259 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:18.960 the middle of the earth. 260 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.279 Maybe we do go to like heaven or something like that. 261 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:24.919 Do you feel like it wasn't just like Addis, but 262 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:28.399 like many characters around the same time kind of like 263 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.759 ascended us into that thinking for sure. 264 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.440 But Addis is the oldest documented. 265 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.360 Form that we have, Okay, okay, all right. 266 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:40.639 Right, Whereas most of these characters that we look at 267 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:46.360 within the ancient times, from Osyrus to Nimrod to Tammuz 268 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:50.559 to Adonis, these are all characters that are in the 269 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.879 that three thousand to thousand BC area, whereas Mother Kibili 270 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.039 and Addis go back about ten thousand BC. 271 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:06.599 Okay, so this is like one of the og right, Okay. 272 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:12.160 But at the same time, you can trace Mother Kibli 273 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:17.000 or ky Bell or Sybil. You can trace her all 274 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:21.240 the way back to Ishtar Anana, and Anana is probably 275 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:25.000 the early whereas Addis is probably the earliest form of 276 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:30.960 this male like transcendent figure. But Kibbly you can trace 277 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.599 all the way back to Anana, which you know, and 278 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.240 Mother Kibli her grand secret I'll just spill it in 279 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.359 the beginning, is that she is an Andrew John. She 280 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:44.920 is the great hermaphrodite, right, And if you trace that 281 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:50.039 back to Anana, and Nana was very much a transgender 282 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:54.279 figure too. It's spoken of that in the from the 283 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.960 Library of Asha Barnapaul, where we get the epic of Gilgamesh. Right, 284 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:03.720 they basically speak of Anana going into the ale room 285 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.960 or the pub or the bar, and basically she is 286 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.720 a woman on one side and when she's talking to 287 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:12.799 a man, and she's a man on the other side 288 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:15.359 when she's talking to a woman. And in the ancient 289 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:20.480 festivals of Anana, they would actually dress in garb that 290 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.279 and we see this but like in the MTV Music 291 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.160 Wards with Madonna and Britney Spears where she dresses half 292 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.480 and half in half man and half woman's clothing. This 293 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.480 goes all the way back to ancient Nana and the 294 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.920 earliest records of this hermaphroditism. 295 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.880 So do you think that's why like the transgenderism or 296 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.319 like gender fluid anything is like kind of sacred, like 297 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:49.079 not even like with the Baphomet, like the breasted goat 298 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:54.920 or whatever. And we kind of see like society in 299 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.640 general is kind of leaning towards that a little bit, 300 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.559 you know, recently, but so it's part of like the 301 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.200 mystery school thing. It's like, oh yeah, that's like the 302 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.880 upper echelon. Like if you can get yourself to the 303 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.440 point where you're not masculine or feminine, you're just like 304 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.160 a being that floats somewhere in the middle. Like that's 305 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.640 the highest you can get, right, right, right. 306 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:18.640 And that goes back to before you know, there's ancient 307 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:23.519 tales of the hermaphrodite that was basically when the sexes 308 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.240 were split by Zeus in Greek mythology. You go back 309 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.839 into the old some of the old Hindu texts, and 310 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:35.480 they have tales of groups of andregh On beings that 311 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.799 basically kind of faded away because they weren't able to 312 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:44.079 produce very well you see this, but none and even 313 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.319 what was it. I believe Indra was kind of a 314 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.839 center type energy that was neither male nor female. So 315 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:58.839 you kind of and it's just in regard to the creation. 316 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.200 You know, what it comes down to is the uh, 317 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:10.279 the creation of life without the sexual act. 318 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:13.839 You know, I was just gonna ask that, do you 319 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:18.519 think that Ciba I would cybe El Chimel whatever. I 320 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:23.359 always I always viewed her as not so much as hermaphrodite, 321 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.839 but that it was a representation of parthagenesis, yes, and 322 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:31.839 that it was the alchemical wedding that all the alchemists 323 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:37.880 achieve to master. So it wasn't so something I feel 324 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.759 like it was taken an adulterated or bastardized, but it 325 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:47.279 was not an art form. You can only say so much. 326 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:51.000 You can only draw so much, right and and you know, 327 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:56.240 fly wings indicate flight. You can't draw something in the air, 328 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.359 you know, because you're only you know, two dimensional with art. 329 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:04.799 But and I felt like Cybelle or Kybell whatever was 330 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:10.240 was a representation of trying to indicate a virgin birth partagenesis. 331 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:13.440 And what you said, with prot genesis, you get such 332 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:17.119 little variability. It's almost like a clone of the mother, 333 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.000 because it's all of the genetics of the mother's right. 334 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.440 Even if you mix up the genetics and you get, 335 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.440 you know, whatever type of combination, you're still dealing with 336 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.079 all of the mother. And when you don't have that 337 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.039 secondary input of variability, it leads to genetic bottlenecking. And 338 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:39.200 so what we see is hybrid vigor and biodiversity sustains 339 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:43.960 any population. But you're absolutely right in that there was 340 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.880 a time where parthagenesis had to exist because there was 341 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.519 no other way but to be back off of that. 342 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.839 And I don't mean to labor this, but you're with Adams. 343 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:56.920 He was her son, wasn't he. 344 00:21:58.400 --> 00:21:58.519 Right? 345 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.359 So is this somewhat of a reversal storyline? I don't know, 346 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.480 if you're familiar with the story of Adam and Eve 347 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:10.279 at the end of the book, how Eve was Adam's 348 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.920 daughter and it was through copulation with his daughter that 349 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.960 he created the rest of humanity after the flood. It 350 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.920 almost seems like it's a reversal of the story, almost. 351 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:28.599 And in regard to nepot like having sex within your 352 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:33.799 own family, I think that maybe those stories were generally shifted. 353 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.640 Where within that chemical you know, you have Adam and 354 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.039 Eve growing apart from each other like cartilage from a 355 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.160 single being in a form of like cellular reproduction, right, 356 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:50.240 whereas in the biblical scape you have them taking a 357 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:54.319 piece of man's rib and creating her through sort of cloning, 358 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:59.839 you know. But nonetheless, yes, very much you have this 359 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:05.359 and you see this often as well with the mother goddesses, 360 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:09.880 like isis marrying Horace, who is the offspring of Osiris. 361 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.599 That so she's marrying her son. You have this constant, 362 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.799 incestuous kind of thing going on for the production of 363 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:24.000 these quote unquote you know, divine lines once they're incarnated 364 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.400 into the physical realm, and it's you know almost like 365 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:33.079 the necessary function of bringing forth civilization, you know, in 366 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:35.720 order to produce as much as possible. 367 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:39.799 Well it sounds more thing. Oh sorry, don't finish, finish. 368 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.960 No, just one more point and I'm done it almost 369 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.960 if you think about it and you remove the whole 370 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:49.079 you know, uh, pedophilia, and just remove that, you know, 371 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.640 just put it on the shelf for now. For the 372 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.640 sake of explanation, if you think about Parth of Genesis 373 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.680 and you think about a virgin birth, it is a 374 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.799 clone of the mother, just in version of a male. 375 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:04.119 So you're taking female DNA of the mother and transforming 376 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.440 it into male. So she is pretty much having sex 377 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.759 with herself, yes, as a male, right, And so it's 378 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.240 no longer And I'm not by no means like condoning 379 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.400 all that other stuff. I'm just saying, if you think 380 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:22.599 about it biologically, she's having intercourse with herself in a 381 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:27.319 male version yep, and therefore to propagate the species. 382 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:31.839 Yes if that helps or no, No, for sure, for sure. 383 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.160 And that's why this stuff is so interesting to look 384 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:40.559 at because it challenges the foundational ideas of creation. It 385 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.039 helps us try to understand further how we were created, 386 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.119 why we're here, which is the ultimate questions, who are 387 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.160 we and why we're here? 388 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:48.640 You know? 389 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.960 So these are like foundational ideas that you know, are 390 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:59.039 the bread basket of humanity as far as our own histories. 391 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:01.400 They give us a great understanding of ourselves. 392 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:02.119 You know. 393 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:05.359 Well, I was gonna say, it just sounds like the 394 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:09.839 practices that you know, these elite families continue. 395 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:13.480 Today hundred So it's like, you know, this is what 396 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:14.480 the gods were doing. 397 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.079 They consider ourselves of these elite bloodlines, they continue the 398 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:23.799 same practices. Is very interesting and also sorry what Julia 399 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.519 was touching on before, it sounds like the ancient way 400 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.240 of like honoring the hermaphrodae is very like asexual, right, 401 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:36.599 Like it's not really like a huge it's notized. Yeah, 402 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.640 it's not emphasized, whereas like you know, the modern day 403 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:45.160 let's say, pride movements, you know, alphabet people's whatever. It's 404 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.920 like taking on this like inversion of it or like 405 00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:55.359 a bastardization of it, you know, mockery of it, like 406 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:56.400 a mockery of it. 407 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.720 You know. I don't know, I just find that interesting, yea. 408 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.559 But we find we find with Addis, you know, And 409 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.599 I got a couple of stories here, but you know, 410 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.480 in one story, he climbs to the mount of top 411 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.920 to the top amunt agdatus, and he's basically in shame 412 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:17.160 and he, you know, castrates himself. In another, he's getting 413 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:22.519 married to this lyddying queen and mother Kibli shows up 414 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.079 and he goes insane and castrates himself. And this all 415 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.960 comes down to the idea of Addis's supplication to Kibili, 416 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.920 but not in a sexual manner. 417 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.079 It cuts off the sect. 418 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.319 It's it's higher than you know, tontra or higher than 419 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.200 in the way it is a certain sort of tontra 420 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:50.960 in completely limiting the sex and to zero, you know, 421 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:57.279 and all bodily lusts and pleasures in association with you 422 00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.920 know what that part of the nervous system brings. 423 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.720 Yeah, I've said it multiple times on the show. I'm 424 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:09.039 sure to research and Lisa I've heard it, probably you Juliet, 425 00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:10.839 maybe not so much because she's just you know know where. 426 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.160 She hasn't heard me bring this up multiple times, but 427 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:16.920 you've said it before. I think even looking at the 428 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:18.839 Tree of Life, if you want to ascend the tree 429 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.519 and have a magical experience, I do think you are 430 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:26.200 like the two energies working together, but like you said, 431 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.279 not in an actual sexual way at all. I think 432 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.119 it is basically in a way of like unfucking yourself. 433 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.519 Really yeah, and it's pretty much taking your DNA and 434 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.079 twisting it to it looks like a ladder and then 435 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:42.440 you find that yes, yeah, and the two energies work together, 436 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.279 and that's why they do start to split, which is 437 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.400 why I think you always see the hermaphrodite one side 438 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.720 and one side once inside the tree. 439 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:51.720 Really interesting to me, which. 440 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.920 Which is why the in spirit I don't think. I mean, 441 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:55.839 I don't think angels can fuck, right, I mean, do 442 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.160 they have Dixon the Chinese? 443 00:27:58.519 --> 00:27:59.880 Well, there is Susan. 444 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.039 It was like some of them are being masculine, being 445 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:10.039 masculine and Roger right, because it's like Michael and Uriel 446 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:16.119 and like they have Gabriel Raphael. Those are like masculine names. 447 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:22.079 But I mean, do angels really I mean, if you 448 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.680 go with the Nephelene story, the fallen angels, they were 449 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.519 very interested in getting freak nasty, you know. 450 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.759 But in a sense to me, I've always thought that like. 451 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:40.000 Mysticism was to transcend out of your physical body as 452 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.240 far as like wanting sex and wanting like it, because 453 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.720 when you have sex, the act itself traps you in 454 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:51.079 this physical body and you're very identifying with it. 455 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.519 That grounds you and pulls you down. And yeah, there's 456 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.039 a story of the Golden flower right that this I 457 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.519 think it was Gilgamesh. He died, he dove down, or 458 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.720 the golden flower directly relates to Gilgamesh. But Gilgamesh dove 459 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.200 down to retrieve this golden flower of immortality and he 460 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.839 was going to eat it, but before he came back up, 461 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.799 before he could eat it, a serpent came and ate it. 462 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.920 And it's basically the idea that he exerted all of 463 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.680 his force through sexual energy and lost the rising tide 464 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.920 that led to immortality because of the serpent, because of 465 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.240 the sexuality, you know. So yeah, this is definitely I. 466 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.839 Wonder if the fallen angel situations might have been more 467 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:45.079 of an energetic sexuality, not like a little wondering. 468 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.359 I think it's uh. I think that's when you actually 469 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.720 start using the physical to create. Yeah, I think I 470 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:54.920 get real deep. I think that's when the eyeb I 471 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.079 think it's just it's just also a description of when 472 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.480 the eyeballs take a take on and you actually fall 473 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.599 in love and we eate with this outside world instead 474 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:02.079 of inside. 475 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.480 Right now, in the Bible, speaking to what you were 476 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.440 just talking about, as far as energy, now, the Bible 477 00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:14.119 specifically says that they came into them, so you can. 478 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.880 I was just yeah, but but it like hot nuts. 479 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.519 Well yeah, but it's c a m e right. 480 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:26.279 Energetic thing. 481 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.480 But it could be their energies came into them, so. 482 00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:38.200 Join right, like like possession, Oh my, more quicksilver, like 483 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:43.240 they're filling the vessel with energy quicksilver, and like we're 484 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.920 trying to talking about in the chot it's it's more energetic, 485 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:47.319 you have to it's not. 486 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:48.279 It's not literal. 487 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.359 That's a lot of conspiracy people make. I'm not saying 488 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.160 any of us. None of us were all like you. 489 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.119 I used to think it was more literal, but now 490 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.880 I definitely did. I thought they were just blowing loads 491 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:08.599 all over the I'm all pregnant one of the the king, 492 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:11.839 you know. 493 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.200 So yeah, but I think also, isn't it like during 494 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.480 conception when you have that explosion between the super matazoa 495 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:25.640 and the ovum, you have the opportunity to capture energy 496 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.519 and transform it and fix it into matter. And so 497 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.640 when I heard that, you know, you have these angels 498 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.519 that are coming in. Instead of the matrix, the matris 499 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:43.000 of the woman capturing energy and bringing it into her 500 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.640 and capturing it into matter, the angels came in and 501 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.000 basically was like, no, I'm putting my energy instead of 502 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.519 hers calling yes right like they played that interception game 503 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.880 and you know, foul on the play and then was like, nah, 504 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.640 I'm putting my energy in that. And and the same 505 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.000 concept happens with cloning and that you get an immortalized cell, 506 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.839 say it's mine, and you want to make a clone 507 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.880 of Nick. So you take you basically keep the outer 508 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.440 portion of the cell and you take out my DNA 509 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.119 and you insert his and so you're basically housing next 510 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:26.359 DNA inside my cellular membrane, and then my cellular membrane 511 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:31.759 is activating mixt DNA to now start to replicate. All 512 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.640 you need is a housing unit, which is the outside 513 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.279 of the cell and the whole transfer the DNA, like the. 514 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.400 Holy Spirit supposedly like did to marry. Oh we don't 515 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.240 think that story as sexual. 516 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:46.839 I don't. 517 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:47.880 I don't. 518 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:55.440 Why would we think the Fallen Angels was sexual? It 519 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:56.759 could just be the same situation. 520 00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:01.480 Dude, cloning is not here. But this is a barn burner. 521 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:03.000 Oh yeah, he was supposed to do. 522 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:10.000 There's a lot more. You can see the dialectical errors. 523 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.000 I'm just gonna be honest. There you can see the 524 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.759 errors that Mormonism kind of makes with this. They kind 525 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.200 of always bring it back down to nutsuc and that's 526 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.160 like their prime focus. But and like Lisa is saying, 527 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.359 it's super important, but there has to be something with ho. 528 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:26.079 There has to be something with your soad. It has 529 00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:30.039 to happen in synthesis. It's not in polarity, right, It's 530 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.519 like in synths. That's what this is all about. And 531 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.240 to go off Lisa's point, Teresa, yeld know this. But 532 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.359 Ganesh or Ganapati as we call him in Buddhism, he 533 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.960 is the son that is only begotten by the mother. Now, 534 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:46.079 when she creates him. She does use the story as 535 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.640 the story goes, she does use some of the seeds 536 00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.799 or the quicksilver from Shiva, but he didn't know that 537 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:56.759 he took it from her, so it's like in ignorance, 538 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.640 So it's not really it's not really his son. It's 539 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.640 big only begotten by the mother. So that's a really 540 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:03.640 interesting parallel. 541 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:08.199 Yeah, and what was it, uh a nana. 542 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.079 I'll get into it here in a little bit, but yeah, 543 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:18.400 after Addis had castrated himself, the blood that fell on 544 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:23.119 the ground, right, it produced a tree that grew in 545 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.639 real time and put forth fruit instantly, right, And the 546 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.440 goddess basically saw this beautiful tree full of fruit and 547 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.599 picked up it's in some tales it's a pomegranate, and 548 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.119 other tales it's an almond, and basically was holding them, 549 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.280 gathering them and holding them in their bosom, and one 550 00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.960 of them went into her and basically created you know, Partha. 551 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:46.519 Genesis. 552 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.559 So you see this over and over again, and in 553 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.519 some of the Eastern tales, yep, one more thing, and 554 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.280 some of the Eastern tales you get this story of 555 00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.760 a beam of sunlight coming and in and they would 556 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.559 baseasically keep the children off the floor until they hit puberty. 557 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.280 So they were in between heaven and earth, and if 558 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.800 they touched the earth, they were polluted, right, but a 559 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.840 beam of sunlight would come in and basically inciminate her 560 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.559 without the act of sex. 561 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.519 Go ahead, Lisa, when you say castration, are you just 562 00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.159 I don't mean to be graphic, but I genuinely want 563 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.360 to know. Are you just removing the testicles or you 564 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.000 removing the testicles and urethra. 565 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.599 I'm assuming you're moving the whole. 566 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.440 If you look at the templars, yeah, yeah. If you 567 00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.880 look at the highest levels of the templars that castrated 568 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:42.039 themselves that are in France, their their pattern of castration 569 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.679 is basically two circles on the bottom and one circle. 570 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:53.800 So when you see these three circles, yes, yes, yeah, 571 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.199 for sure, for sure. 572 00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.400 You know you guys are killing it today. Man, I'm 573 00:35:58.440 --> 00:35:59.800 already sitting over You're. 574 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.119 Like, what the front? The story it was all about? 575 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.920 This is the though, and it's. 576 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.800 All around us. It's in everything that that has pervaded 577 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.480 into modern times. So you know, recognizing these ancient symbols 578 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.559 gives you a broader understanding of the world. 579 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.840 You're living in Well, I just wanted to say quick 580 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.239 since Lisa brought it up. You know, like the Heaven's 581 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:29.400 Gate cult was really into this kind of ambiguous uh 582 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.199 gendering shavir head wear matching clothing, and then it got 583 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.440 to the point where it was like castration. So I 584 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:43.119 don't know, it's like it's it's very significant in cults 585 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.559 and you know, so I'm I'm blown away, you. 586 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.079 Guys, this this is crazy. 587 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.480 So now, the oldest reference to the mysterious character of 588 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.760 Addis appears on a monument King Midas, and he calls 589 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:07.880 him eight ATPs and Herodotus calls him atus at us 590 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:13.400 as well as attus at us. Oh, that's the same 591 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:18.800 in a xanthesis of Lydia. Where As the first time 592 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.599 we see, oh yeah, this is the first in Lydia 593 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.400 is the first time that we see the double T 594 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.159 put in is a T T I S. And that's 595 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:33.079 from these Athenian cosmic poets from around three point fifty BC, 596 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:39.719 which became the most popular spelling of it thereafter. Let's see, 597 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.519 uh according to let me hold on like that one. 598 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.800 Let's see So now ovid, are you guys familiar with 599 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.480 with Ovid at all a little bit. He basically has 600 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.960 this book called Metamorphosis. And in Metamorphosis he goes through 601 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:08.239 all of these different characters in the different mysterious religious 602 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:13.639 cults that transform from one thing into another. Right, so 603 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.800 Ovid conveys that young Addis had fallen in love with 604 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.519 the beautiful Kibili, who made him a promise that he 605 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.960 would remain a boy forever. But soon Addis broke his promise, 606 00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:32.199 falling in love with the river nymph Stagarithis. And this 607 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.599 is a Phrygian river basically that was said to be 608 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:40.000 occupied by this river god, and the offspring of that 609 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:40.880 river god. 610 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.119 Was this nymph. 611 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:48.920 And Kibili took revenge in killing the nymph, causing Addis 612 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.639 to lose his mind. With Addis fearing the furies that 613 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.800 were in pursuit of him. To escape the perceived terrors, 614 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.559 Addis climbed to the top of Mountain Dindiemon, where he 615 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:07.719 castrated himself. So let's see, and but the OVID doesn't 616 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.119 so much tell us how Adams was born. 617 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.519 Right let's see uh. 618 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:21.039 In the okay, So in a passion of love Jupiter, 619 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:26.639 who is Zeus in Roman times, he basically approaches this 620 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:33.039 mount Agnathus. So the goddess is this is the mountain itself. 621 00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:33.719 Right. 622 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.039 And when you go back into these ancient mystery schools, 623 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.760 they always worshiped on the high places. They would circumambulate 624 00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:46.320 the mountains to the left hand side, basically in alignment 625 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.760 with the pole star and this belief. They believe this 626 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.280 was the connection out of the dome or out of 627 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.119 the glass onion into the higher realms. 628 00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.119 Right, so. 629 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.400 Let's see the isn't the polestar associated with that? Then 630 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.760 you know what we've now come to the swastika because 631 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:11.880 a polestar was inside of it, orbited by the dippers. 632 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.960 Right, and those dippers you go through the different cultures, 633 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.599 you know, and the Egyptians they saw them as ox 634 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:22.320 legs or nose nana in that story they saw them 635 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:23.119 as ox legs. 636 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:24.440 Maybe it was Egyptian too. 637 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.039 But then you have the mother bear as far as 638 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.039 and you have this to the Druids, it was the 639 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.239 scythe as far as you know, which has to do 640 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.559 life and death and moving between you know, realms. 641 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:39.719 Let's see. 642 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.280 So can I ask a quick question about the story 643 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:47.079 you just read? Yeah, sometimes when I hear these stories 644 00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.239 it's like reading the Bible and I need like a 645 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:50.559 little bit more translation. 646 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.800 Just pretend I'm a rechard. It's not hard to do. 647 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:57.199 So he you saying he fell in love with somebody, 648 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.400 but then he could like he didn't want to be 649 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:03.119 with them, and then he castrated himself or like what 650 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:04.000 happened with that? 651 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.039 Right, if you get into the deeper into the Lydian 652 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:11.000 stories that were late to where Ovid got his information from, 653 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:16.039 they talk about the fact that Kibili and Addis had 654 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.800 fallen in love with one another even though they couldn't 655 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.760 make love with one another, and that what ended up 656 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:27.800 happening was Addis because he was such a beautiful youth. 657 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.639 He was like everyone that saw him fell in love 658 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.000 with him. He like Adnnas. This is where we get 659 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.760 the story of Adonnas, because he was so beautiful, everyone 660 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:36.320 loved him. 661 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.400 Right, So one of the kings basically had had commissioned. 662 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.800 Adonnas to marry his daughter, and then it was Kibli 663 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.840 that came to the marriage, and when he saw her 664 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.840 at the marriage, he went into a rage and basically 665 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:56.159 broke down, leading to his self castration in dedication to 666 00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:02.920 the goddess Mother his own mother kibbam you okay, okay, yeah, yeah, 667 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.159 So let's see, uh now in passion, did I turn 668 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:13.280 it back's okay? So in a passion of love, Jupiter 669 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.119 approaches Mount Agdutus, which is the mountain which appears in 670 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.280 the likes of and hearly relating it to Mother Riha, 671 00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.280 which all because all these goddesses eye in together, isis 672 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:31.840 Mother Ria Kibli. You know, there's numerous inscriptions that talk 673 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.800 about the fact that they call her what do they 674 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.760 call her? Moronymous is what they call her, where she 675 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.360 is the mother of many names, and she basically in 676 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.559 each culture she goes into, she takes on a different 677 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:54.559 personification of this divine mother that transmits a andreghne you 678 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.280 know birth that of a sort of a prophet figure 679 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.760 that leads the way to show you that like the 680 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.039 exit method out of this realm. 681 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.119 Right, what is that? What is that animal? Sorry to interrupt, 682 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.960 what is that animal behind this woman? 683 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:11.800 It looks like a black ox. 684 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:13.760 That's what I was thinking too. And it's like, you 685 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.760 know again we're talking about like all the birth and 686 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:18.119 everything and the twisting of the crossing of the stuff. 687 00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:19.679 I mean, you got to know in an X I mean. 688 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.559 Would be the yeah in the exit six in English. 689 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.199 And also you need oxygen to live in this realm. 690 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:33.119 Yeah, ye interesting x x ol guys, and I guess 691 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.519 in the English language the only places you see six 692 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.559 six or six sixty six is an ox and fox, 693 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.119 So that's interesting. 694 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.519 It is very solar. Yeah, it makes sense for trifferonic, right, 695 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:55.440 like very trifon lucipheric, almost element right. 696 00:43:56.119 --> 00:44:01.159 Yeah, for sure, for sure. So now let's see. But 697 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:03.840 mount Agdatus basically. 698 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.760 The mother goddess as the mountain she does not wish 699 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.119 to give into the advances of Jupiter. Right in the 700 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.639 ensuing struggle, Jupiter shed some drops of his semen where 701 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.239 they are spilled over the mountain, which can see from 702 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:26.480 his divine insemination. The result is a terrible and wild 703 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:33.079 androgynous creature that is born that they call Agdatus, so 704 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.880 Agnatus as the deeper I got into this the more 705 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.760 I realized that this Agnutus is Mother Kibili, and then 706 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.039 I began to found links where they were actually and 707 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.039 when you get into the Eastern more eastern like Iranian 708 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:58.440 texts they call they directly match Agnitus with Mother Kibli. Right, 709 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:03.719 So oh, now, the gods saw this androgyny as a menace, 710 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.960 a thing from the past, from before the splitting of 711 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.239 the sexes that we talked about, right, and they feared 712 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:17.039 that it was this one person with the quality of 713 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:21.519 two sexes that would be enabled to multiply without a partner. 714 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:26.119 Also relating to the parthogenesis of the virgin bursts which 715 00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:30.360 we talked about, this constituting a threat to both the 716 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.719 gods and to man. But the gods said they would 717 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.320 not outright go and put an end to Agnetus. 718 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:39.079 Right. 719 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.280 So, basically, as the gods look down, they see this 720 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.159 place where Agnatus enjoys the cool shade and the springs 721 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.159 of the fresh water, where he quenches he she quenches 722 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.480 his thirst. And the gods then invoked the participation of 723 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.880 Dionysus at this point, right, And Dionysus is sent to 724 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:09.719 mix wine with the spring water, and Dionysus basically accepts 725 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.800 this tasks. And this is Dionysus basically said to accept 726 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.360 this task so that he can gain immortality. 727 00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:19.280 Right. 728 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:26.159 So Dionysus puts the wine into the spring water where 729 00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:32.039 Agnatus drinks, and then Agnatus, you know, drinking healthily from 730 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.320 the water basically falls asleep, passes out from drinking the wine. 731 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:42.519 And then at this time, Dionysus feels up to Agdatus 732 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:48.559 while she's sleeping and basically takes a stout chord is 733 00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:53.559 what they say, and affixes it to the genitals of Agdatus. 734 00:46:54.239 --> 00:47:00.679 And then when Agnatus wakes up quote unquote, it prives 735 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:02.360 of that which. 736 00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:03.280 Made him a man. 737 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:09.159 So then according to our Nobius, a tree shoots up 738 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.480 from the spilled blood in real time and bears fruit. 739 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.400 This just as this, just as in the story of 740 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:20.480 a Nana that happens or Nana walking past that we 741 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.519 talked about before, right, And you. 742 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.199 Know, Robbie, just really quick, I mentioned it in the 743 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.760 chapters four. Since you brought it up again, I could 744 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.679 be like a little off, but the story with the 745 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.800 tree and the blood and the you know, the tree 746 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.519 sprouting from it sounds very much like parts of that 747 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.760 movie The Fountain, The Fountain, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 748 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.880 And you see this within mysticism because you know what 749 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.280 was it Athena when she created the fresh water spring 750 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.760 before Athens was formed, and she also caused an almond 751 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.840 tree to grow in real time and bear fruit before 752 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:58.280 everyone that's why they elected her and named the island Athena. 753 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.000 You see these mystical trees, trees growing in real time 754 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.159 in different places, and even now if you go to India, 755 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.679 you know, and you read Madam Bolovotsky or you read 756 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.199 you know, some of the mystics that have gone over 757 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:17.239 and into India, they talk about the Yogi's basically growing 758 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:18.639 trees in real. 759 00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:19.920 Time that bear fruit. 760 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.639 So this is something within mysticism that dates, you know, 761 00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.639 as far back as we can go into the the systems. 762 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.280 M interesting story. When you were telling that, I was like, oh, 763 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:35.199 what does this sound like? The fountain? Yeah, you know, 764 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.280 I don't remember if it was her blood and his blood, 765 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.159 but I think blood was dropped and a tree grew 766 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:40.599 and there was blood coming out of the tree and 767 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:41.639 he was eating it out on some. 768 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:47.119 Of the shit right in the park, you know, and 769 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.880 the houses. The director going to interpret symbols and inflect 770 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.760 them in his you know, rendering it. 771 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:58.199 Oh, I think that is deep as hell, very very gastic. 772 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.199 I think one of the lines in at that mean 773 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:01.719 the last time my story, I think he says, uh 774 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:06.039 in death there is awe like other fucking nailed it right, there. 775 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:15.079 So now at this time, because she's pregnant. Basically, the 776 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.599 the goddess kally she comes to send Garios basically this 777 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:24.840 this river, the father of the river nymph. And but 778 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.880 Sangarius doesn't understand the significant of the divine intervention as 779 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.159 far as the parthogenesis, you know. And this we have 780 00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:39.480 in the story of enoch Uh not Enoch malchiesa Dek 781 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.920 where you know, malches Uh Malchesk's father, his you know, 782 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.039 doesn't understand how his wife is pregnant. We have this 783 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.559 with Joseph and Mary. We have this, you know, in 784 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:55.159 various porthogenic births where the husband's like, you know, well, 785 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.000 in Jesus and Mary, he did understand, you know. But 786 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.320 but in this story, the husband doesn't understand, and they 787 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:08.280 basically leave this divine child when it's birthed in a 788 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.639 field as a foundling, just for the nature to take it. 789 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:18.960 And again a goat comes and basically, you know, feed 790 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.400 this this young child, just like Zeus was fed by Anthea, 791 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.440 and then later on the shepherds find at Us and 792 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.760 basically raise him up as a shepherd of the field. 793 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.320 So this is one of our first shepherd like figures 794 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.639 and we see him carrying the goats over his shoulders 795 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:45.519 like Jesus carries the lambs. Oh yeah, and it ties 796 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.119 in with the various like Tamus when and Tamus carried 797 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.880 the goats like that as well. But he was the 798 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.239 progenitor of the fields. He can make grass grow at 799 00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.239 a word, you know, makes springs come at a word, 800 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:07.400 you know, various divine intonations. But it's when Adas grows 801 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:12.920 up unbeknownst to Mother Kimberly. That basically, when he comes 802 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.320 of age and he's like this beautiful child like Adonis, 803 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.920 that this is when Kibberly falls in love with him. 804 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:26.079 And basically, you know, and this, you know, this whole 805 00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:28.400 idea of the mother falling in love with the son, 806 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.760 the son castrating himself, devoting himself to the mother. 807 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:33.679 This all relates into. 808 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.679 Whom because when we get into Mother Kibberly, and I 809 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.840 didn't want to talk about her so much, but she 810 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.639 was generally worshiped on this mountain as a black stone, right, 811 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.880 So the blackstone, this was a meteorite that was said 812 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.199 to come and the goddess incarnating herself into our physical world. 813 00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:56.000 You got some. 814 00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:58.199 Yea. 815 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.440 But basically we see these meteorite stones being worshiped in 816 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:08.400 several places, like in the corner of the Kaba in Mecca. 817 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:10.320 But nonetheless, this. 818 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:14.960 Black stone, it gets commissioned to be taken to Rome 819 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.360 because Virgil in his book the Eniad, basically Eneus goes 820 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.119 back to Phrygia and ties the foundations of Rome to 821 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.599 ancient Phrygia. Where atis, Yeah, that's what the Enia Eniad, 822 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.880 the epic story that basically details the foundation of Rome, 823 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.800 is all about. Is this character of Enius going to 824 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.000 ancient Phrygia and basically going to worship the goddess Mother 825 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.480 and tying the foundations of Rome to ancient Phrygia, which we're. 826 00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:49.719 Talking about, right. 827 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:55.039 So they end up commissioning and bringing that blackstone from 828 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.360 Phrygia and bringing it to the Palatine Hill in Rome, 829 00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.840 and she becomes the other of all of gods over 830 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.480 all of the Roman religion. So they bring this Phrygian 831 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:11.320 goddess that offshoot Addus and she becomes the supreme goddess 832 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:16.760 of ancient Rome. So just in context of this whole storyline, right. 833 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.519 I just wanted Robbie, now I just wanted to uh 834 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.159 interrupt before about you know you're talking about this whole 835 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.320 thing was like you know, cutting yourself, castration, Eunichs and 836 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.599 all this stuff. I have joked well and that joked around. 837 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.960 I tried to make like actually a serious points with this, 838 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.599 and you're going back to the eye. So I understand 839 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.639 that's sometimes a little bit too too deep, but a 840 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.760 little bit too much, but I have a reference before. 841 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:44.880 I do think the optic nerve and back of or 842 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.519 I looks like a dick hanging. I mean when I've 843 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.159 pulled up the picture if I could, I'm not gonna 844 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:49.800 go through the computer. 845 00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:50.079 Now. 846 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.320 I've showed it on podcasts and people are like, yeah, 847 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.159 that does look like a dick and bulls. It does 848 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.000 look like that, and it's in the back of your eye. 849 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.599 And once you start falling down from that pointing into 850 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:02.559 the front of your eye, that's like when you start 851 00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.920 like basically coming into birth with this world. Now at 852 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.960 that point you're still just having a relationship kind of 853 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.800 with the pineal gland and back here. You haven't hit 854 00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:17.559 the lens yet, nothing's gotten twisted and manipulated. So yeah, 855 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.480 I often wonder is like the loss of that is 856 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.360 just showing you the progression of light coming into the 857 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.679 front of your eye, basically into this world. Right, yeah, 858 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:29.800 it's a little much, but. 859 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.960 Yeah, but it is interesting when you look back at 860 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.280 the ideas that you know, at a certain point, we 861 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.480 couldn't see blue, at a certain point, we couldn't see pink. 862 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.199 You're even changing fluids and everything. 863 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.559 Yeah, right, Well, and there's a woman in Florida that 864 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:46.119 they found. 865 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.239 I don't know if I brought this up before, but 866 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:51.679 she has extended rods and cones that they found, and 867 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.920 she can see something like an extra sixty something colors 868 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:56.159 that we can't see. 869 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.920 So, you know, if you look at a certain Egyptian headdress, 870 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.920 they look just like I can't remember if it's the 871 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.280 cones of the rods, but they look just like what. 872 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.880 Oh yeah, And I mean, you know when you get 873 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.840 into the sigul of lucifer in regard to how the 874 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:18.800 eyeballs work, and right, right, that's exactly. But that's the 875 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:22.920 whole thing. You know, it's like the evolving are we 876 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.960 a continuously evolving form? You know, you go back into 877 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.320 the ancient mysteries and they talk about how we just 878 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.280 came into birth full form, like from the divine realm. 879 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.840 You know, and then it took however long in manifest 880 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.480 creation before we fell into matter, you know, or if 881 00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.880 you want to get into like the Darwinian Huxley kind 882 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.199 of idea of you know what, why they had to 883 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.519 fake the pilt down man and why they still have 884 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.000 the quote unquote missing link, like they can't determine or 885 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:02.760 establish a true, definitive point of separation from primates to humans. 886 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.960 But geneticists also say there are some points in there 887 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:11.159 where it looks like genes have been fused. So it's 888 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:15.719 just interesting to think about in regard to the creation mechanisms. 889 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.119 You know, I just I wanted to add to something 890 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.960 really and it's at least actually and then you you 891 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.599 made me think of it again. But there was a 892 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:33.000 small documentary that I watched on the craziness of conception 893 00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:38.719 and like how impossible it really is to even contemplate it. 894 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.000 But they. 895 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.199 I guess somehow, maybe not inside a woman, but they 896 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:47.679 took a video of. 897 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.599 When the sperm actually fuses with the egg. 898 00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.159 There's like it's like the big bang shit, light light 899 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.440 comes off of the thing, and it's kind of like 900 00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.880 what you were saying, is like, do we come from 901 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.440 like a divine like astral plane and it just like 902 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.880 explodes within and you know, it's. 903 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:09.719 Like where do people actually come from? 904 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:12.599 And infants actually can only see in black and white 905 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.440 for a while and then they develop colors over time. 906 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.559 So it's like what like an infant or even like 907 00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.000 a fetus inside the womb is like where do we really? 908 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.440 Like the thought of it is crazy, like where do 909 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:28.920 we actually come from? 910 00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:33.519 And the woman being able to actually, like a fractal unfunction, 911 00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:39.039 manufacture life from itself in all species, not just humans. 912 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.760 But I find it interesting that within the zygote, as 913 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.320 it develops within the womb of the human, that it 914 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:52.440 basically takes on all these different class and phylum representations 915 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.679 of the life that's existing on the planet as well. 916 00:57:56.239 --> 00:58:01.440 Yes, it's required. The explosion is required to trap energy 917 00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:05.119 into matter, like if you were just harnessing energy into 918 00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:10.360 matter at the molecular level. It requires that amount of 919 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.599 burst of energy and it's about I think they said, 920 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:17.199 like sixty or six hundred thousand zinc ions that explode 921 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:21.199 at the same time and the actual lining of the 922 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:26.039 ovum and the zona pellucida that is where the chain 923 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:31.719 reaction happens, and it's a chemical biochemical process. 924 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.920 It's so funny because today I just saw a post 925 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.519 about for the first time, like recently, they were able 926 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.320 to make a human fetus out of just stem cells, right, 927 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:48.639 so no egg and sperm, like literally just repurposed stem cells. 928 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:50.920 And it made me think of that clip, Julia, that 929 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.159 I think you're talking about, when you know, the the 930 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.119 zygote I guess gets the egg get fertilized or whatever, 931 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:00.119 and then there's that huge spark of light and I 932 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.440 was like, well, if they're just using stem cells, what 933 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.760 that even happen? And then like, what is this creation 934 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.199 that you've made? Is there any soul infused? 935 00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.599 Right when? 936 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.199 Yeah, it's postulated that when that explosion of light happens, 937 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:21.840 potentially that that is when the moment and to the spirit, 938 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:22.239 like you. 939 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:26.079 Said, materializes into matter, right, Like when is that happening? 940 00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.039 And I'm like, is that even a human at that point? 941 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:28.199 Like? 942 00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.400 What is the right It's it's like it's like, I 943 00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:31.960 don't know if you. 944 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.519 Guys have ever watched the movie Splice, when you know 945 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.239 she takes like her egg and puts like weird chicken 946 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.079 DNA with it and trying to make like hybrid beings 947 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:42.440 and shit. 948 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:44.320 It just makes you wonder. 949 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.280 It's it's it's that spark of light when you see it, 950 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.920 and it's like an explosion, and it's almost like the 951 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.239 God particle, right, you know, when you are trying to 952 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:57.039 fuse those two things together to create and then this 953 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.119 soul comes down into this ves soul which is the mother, 954 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:03.119 and then you grow it and then it's a whole 955 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:08.639 entire person. But I have also thought, and you know, 956 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.079 I think most most of you know, I kind of 957 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:15.239 identify myself to be a Christian, but you know, not 958 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.039 to say that I'm the only person that can be right, 959 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.960 because I'm open to entertaining all kinds of you know, 960 01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:27.199 different theories and stuff. But doesn't it make you wonder 961 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.559 if like the soul of the person that you grow 962 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.360 inside you, it's like they've always been with you and 963 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:36.079 then it's like they wait for like the right time 964 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.000 and then they come down into the physical, but like 965 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.760 their spirit has always been with you. 966 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.599 Well, within some of the Buddhist exte it, it's the 967 01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:48.440 idea that you have these souls around you and you 968 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.960 do this eternal dance through time where you continue to 969 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.719 come back so you can experience and love one another. 970 01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:59.760 And if those souls so much love one another, that 971 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.280 is the potential two souls can merge and become one. Impurity, 972 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.760 and also the idea that if one soul is so 973 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.639 strong that it can actually explode and fracture and create 974 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.079 multiple souls of itself. You know, it's it's you know, 975 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:18.480 quite beautiful in dark the energetic, you know, precipitation and 976 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.360 the possibilities of what life. And then when you get 977 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:25.800 into DNA itself, right when it twists up into its 978 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:32.599 finest form, it's generating photons on its own accordance, just 979 01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:37.920 through the nature of how and I've postulated that the 980 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:42.239 photons generating through the DNA may be the bit rate 981 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:47.400 at which we experience time that allows time to actually damn. 982 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.960 That is intense photon. 983 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:57.840 That photon exists at a specific frequency that is the 984 01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:03.000 fingertip of the actual individual. It is specific and unique 985 01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.400 to that individual. And so when you look at the 986 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.239 body itself and you look at DNA itself, and you 987 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:13.920 look at the soul's frequency, they are all specific to 988 01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.199 each other. And it's like your meat suit has been 989 01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:23.000 outfitted to your soul's DNA and to respond that way, Well. 990 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.480 Lisa, how can you make that in a lab? 991 01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:28.800 It's like that, you can't like that whatever they're doing, 992 01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.000 and they're like, it's it's can't be the same. 993 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:31.480 It can't. 994 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.159 They're they've factored out the spiritual aspect of life and 995 01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:39.199 they're just creating like weird biological vesta. 996 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:44.599 That's going to be the new, the new what is it? 997 01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.599 Discrimination the people that were born natural versus people that 998 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:50.079 were not born natural? Right, that's where you're going to 999 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:53.239 have that divide. But to give credence to what we're saying, 1000 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.639 and just to kind of insert this when you go 1001 01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.840 for IVF, like if you want to in mutual fertilization, 1002 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.800 they obvious they harness both gammies. Right when your obg 1003 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:09.000 yn is looking at intimation under a microscope, it's looking 1004 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.880 for that flash of light under the microscope. If there's 1005 01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.719 embryos that do that produce a flash of light, those 1006 01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.440 are you know, collected and they are harvested, you know, 1007 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.599 for implantation later. The ones that are not are discarded. 1008 01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.960 So if you're if you're paying upwards of thirty to 1009 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.119 fifty thousand dollars for your obgyn to look for that 1010 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:33.679 flash of light. That's I think that's a big deal. 1011 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:37.599 I think that's how can you not believe in God 1012 01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.320 when you see something like that. It's just like, this 1013 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:45.360 is crazy to me. It's the most fun stuff to 1014 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.400 talk about for me. I mean, it's just you know, 1015 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:49.880 you know. 1016 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:57.039 So now, Pausanias he tells us that adds his birth, 1017 01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:01.159 like that of many heroes, is said to be miraculous. 1018 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.280 His mother, Nama, was a virgin who conceived by putting 1019 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:08.599 a ripe omend or pomegranate in her bosom. And then 1020 01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:14.480 my note is indeed, within the Phrygian culture and their cosmology, right, 1021 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.880 the Omen figured as the father of all things. So 1022 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.480 this is the father and the mother and the offspring. 1023 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.320 This is the divine trinity that you see in all 1024 01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.079 the Egyptian you know gnomes of the twelve Gnomes that 1025 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:33.159 transitions into the various mystery schools that we see coming 1026 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.280 forth in the mystery of Jesus Christ himself. 1027 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:38.440 You know, yeah, you know. 1028 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.360 Something I wanted to say earlier too, Robbie, I just 1029 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.639 want to interject, and I think, well, at least obviously 1030 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.599 would understand this. I think it's very much like in 1031 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.920 Petocles is a love and strife idea. If you go 1032 01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.800 back and look at that and kind of get an 1033 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.239 idea of what he's saying there, he's very much almost explaining, 1034 01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:58.880 like my opinion, birth. 1035 01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:04.760 Yeah, yeah, and that's you know, and I've theorized that, 1036 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:08.079 you know, within the Masonic orders, you have the compass 1037 01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.679 being uh, the draws of the circles, that is the 1038 01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:16.519 divine heavens, that is, you know, more associated with the female. 1039 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:21.159 And then you have the square which the draws angles 1040 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.800 more associated with the cube or the male. And basically 1041 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.719 you see that G that's in the center right, You've 1042 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:32.880 basically taking the female and the male and bringing them together. 1043 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.960 And that is that G is generation, is the creation 1044 01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.119 of life. I think that is the most hidden sacred 1045 01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.360 mystery of all the mysteries, which isn't. 1046 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:49.440 Uh that that's like the chalice and the blade coming 1047 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:55.440 together that thing. So you're just your thoughts because this 1048 01:05:55.639 --> 01:06:00.760 is so similar to like the Immaculate Conception, rob year thoughts. 1049 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:02.360 Was Jesus asexual? 1050 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:02.960 I mean? 1051 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:03.559 Is that why? 1052 01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:08.079 I mean what like what what? What are your thoughts 1053 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:08.400 on that? 1054 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:09.360 I mean? 1055 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:11.400 Did he have children? 1056 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.440 You know, you read Holy what, Holy Blood, Holy Grail 1057 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.159 and they say that the offspring of the children of 1058 01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.760 Mary Magdalene and Jesus became what the mayor of Vingian bloodline. 1059 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:27.079 There there is some argument, but if you look back 1060 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:31.239 into how these mystery schools function and the scenes being 1061 01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:37.320 taken outside of and being very like, uh, what's the 1062 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.559 word I'm looking for, they basically rejected everything. You know. 1063 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.880 They were limiting their food, they were limiting their exposure 1064 01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.039 to the corruption of the city. You know, they were 1065 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.159 limiting their sex, they were limiting like you know, uh, 1066 01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.679 so you know, it's it's a good question for sure, 1067 01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.960 but but I could definitely see how you know, Jesus 1068 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.719 could have been a potentially a sex'll. 1069 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.639 Be I'm certainly in that way. Sorry, go ahead, you no, no, no, 1070 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:04.360 that's occasually. 1071 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.119 I just wanted to jump in because I find this 1072 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.199 to be a really interesting point. I think Robbie did 1073 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:11.400 a really great job fielding that. But I also think, 1074 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:15.360 like as Buddhist quote unquote, as a we don't believe 1075 01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.440 in a fixed soul, but we do believe in the light. 1076 01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:21.840 So like what Robbie, Lisa and Nick are all talking about, like, yeah, 1077 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.199 we believe in that like the light of conception, but 1078 01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.800 we would say that that's karma. So that's like your 1079 01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.360 kind of connection to the people that you were born 1080 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:34.599 unto and then with. So rather than your soul has 1081 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:36.400 like it's it's not really a soul. It's more of 1082 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.400 a spirit or like a fix. It's not fixed. Right, 1083 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.079 you can change, you a free will. 1084 01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:41.440 You can. 1085 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.360 You're malleable in the world. You're just like your body 1086 01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.840 can change as a like sure Lisa knows is like 1087 01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:49.239 a stress. I mean, Lisa definitely knows, but as like 1088 01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:53.400 a stress recept You know, you changed depending on your inputs, 1089 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:57.800 your food, your environment, all of that. So the reality 1090 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.719 is is like we change, but yes, we immediately are 1091 01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.519 born with like the karmic connection to each other. And 1092 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.920 recognizing that is that's what Buddhism really is. It's like 1093 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.440 that's the whole point is like to recognize, Yeah, everything 1094 01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.400 I do has a karma implication and can impact not 1095 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.000 only myself but the people around me and not only 1096 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.720 in material ways but in metaphysical ways. 1097 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.960 The soul family, right right, Yeah. 1098 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.119 Yeah, we can use it. I mean, I'm fine to 1099 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.720 use the word soul. I just I personally don't believe 1100 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.760 in a fixed soul. So you can interpret that however 1101 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.760 you want. Like we're we we really reject that eternalist 1102 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.600 idea of like the soul carries with you through time. 1103 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:42.960 It's sort of dissipated in time. 1104 01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:44.199 Market. 1105 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:46.800 Probably we could all like look back on our life 1106 01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:49.199 and have these points where like if you've met somebody, 1107 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:51.720 I'm not even talking like romantically or whatever, but like 1108 01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:54.640 there's just people. Sometimes in that moment when you meet 1109 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:58.640 them or see them, there's like a weird like recognition 1110 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:01.800 or like a certain thing. I also had that with 1111 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.359 both my children, like when they were born or even 1112 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.720 when like I was pregnant with them, Like there were 1113 01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.279 certain things about them that it's like I knew was 1114 01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.239 going to be this is who you are. 1115 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.000 And then when I held them, I was like, oh, 1116 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.960 it's you, like an old familiarity, like. 1117 01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:21.880 You knew them all right, they knew them. That's why 1118 01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:24.279 I mentioned, like it's you. It makes you wonder if 1119 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:26.680 they've not always been with you. I don't know if 1120 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:26.960 it's like. 1121 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.479 Being with you, but maybe more like like a nat 1122 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:31.399 sole family or. 1123 01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.239 That they come down to be with you. 1124 01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.920 Yeah right right, yeah, right, yeah yeah. 1125 01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:40.439 Surg Just let me just say this really quick about 1126 01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.319 that Jesus, because you brought up a really great point 1127 01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.359 about Jesus being asexual. So this is a question that 1128 01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:49.000 Tontra actually deals with rather well. Is that and Lisa 1129 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.600 and I were talking about a little in the chat. 1130 01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:55.239 There are different versions of preferences of how to climb 1131 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:56.680 the tree if you want to call it like that, 1132 01:09:57.399 --> 01:09:59.640 if you want to articulate it like that. So being 1133 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:05.319 a having a bachelor deity or bachelor god, that is desirable, 1134 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:09.840 as Robbie was saying, for people who are into radical shromana. 1135 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.600 So shramana just means radical asceticism. So it's like giving 1136 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:19.720 up all the materialities. So if your view is shramanic, I'll. 1137 01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:23.399 Say, right, medicism as that's the word I was thinking 1138 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:24.680 of her meticism. 1139 01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:28.079 Go ahead, yeah, but you're going to give up everything. 1140 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:32.199 Now if your path is radically transgressive, then you're going 1141 01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.640 to embrace the pleasures of the flesh. So it really 1142 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:39.600 depends on how you want, like how your cosmology is, 1143 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.640 how the system is that you get to where you 1144 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.319 want to go, so right, and like, so this is 1145 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:52.399 a this is the I guess the Kaybell figure of Tntra. 1146 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.119 Her name is Zaka Jatti, which means the one braid, 1147 01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:58.039 and you can see she only has one breast, one eye, 1148 01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:01.960 one thing. And to bring Nick's point about the eye 1149 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.720 falling out, if you look at her, I guess that's 1150 01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:08.520 her left hand. She's holding a heart, a severed heart, 1151 01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:12.119 and there's like a little string and so it does 1152 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.840 look kind of like an eyeball. I didn't choose the 1153 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.000 best image to show that. I chose a more cool image. 1154 01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:20.760 But you can see, like she's blind, she only has 1155 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.359 the one eye, so it's only subtle because when she 1156 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.479 has her physical eyes, she craves and she desires. So 1157 01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.880 the whole idea is that when she becomes blind, she 1158 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:33.840 only has her subtle or her third eye right, so 1159 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:37.159 she only can perceive the spiritual. So she realizes in 1160 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:39.920 her karma, oh this is my cosmic function is not 1161 01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:44.359 to destroy the world, but to destroy perception. So it 1162 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.760 has like a much more consciousness layer. It's not like 1163 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:49.920 as we were talking about this whole time. It's very 1164 01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.199 much about consciousness rather than yeah, it can be literal, 1165 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:55.560 it can be real, it can be also a metaphor, 1166 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.199 it can be also angels, whatever, But really it's about 1167 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:00.800 you and your consciousness and your body, because I think, 1168 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.119 like Lisa and Nick make a great argument, it's about 1169 01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:04.000 your eye and your womb. 1170 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.039 Yeah, all right. 1171 01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:12.319 So now when we trace the name Addis back from 1172 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:16.680 atus a t u s to eight at ees, all 1173 01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:21.960 find a common meaning in the Caucaus region relating to 1174 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:28.039 the month or the moon right. And it is also 1175 01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:33.359 held that ideas came from the day that the full 1176 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:38.760 moon is visible as the etruscans related to the moon 1177 01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:47.159 as itus or itis relating to lunar time, and corresponds 1178 01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:53.840 to the Samerian word itu, which relates to illumination of 1179 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:59.399 the moon. This word Itu has been in Kaldea and 1180 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:06.239 in the Acamedean inscriptions used in the exact same manner 1181 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.399 in regard to the illumination or the light, not the 1182 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:13.960 moon itself, but the light of the moon right, and 1183 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.760 it's believed to have been perceived as a divine being 1184 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.640 in relation to the cycles of the natural world. From 1185 01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:29.000 these names found in Asia Minor being eights Aethus as 1186 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:33.279 well as Attis, suggesting this to be the true origin 1187 01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:38.479 of the nature of Attis. The moon god a men 1188 01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:43.239 or many of Asia Minor has long been recognized for 1189 01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:48.239 his similarities with Atis men is young like Addis, both 1190 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:52.760 dress identically, both wear the Phrygian cap of Attis, while 1191 01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:58.199 also both using common attributes of the poppy, the pomegranate, 1192 01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.880 and the pine cone. So you know, we can just 1193 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:08.000 see that this is something that is spreading culturally because 1194 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:12.279 of this ascended idea of this virgin birth, and this 1195 01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:17.840 means of you know, transitioning into higher forms of reality. Right, 1196 01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.319 both Addis and Man are seen with the crescent moon 1197 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:28.199 above their heads. This godmin uh, these god men, through 1198 01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:34.199 their symbols, is a blossoming. Is a blossom blossoming, nourish 1199 01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.159 and nourished by ancient roots growing outward from Addis. 1200 01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:40.560 Yeah. 1201 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.319 I could just keep going on and on about you know, 1202 01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.439 this is basically the notes I was writing for for 1203 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:51.319 the Nimrod book, because Nimrod directly ties in with this 1204 01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:54.199 as far as one of the cut up gods. 1205 01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:54.920 You know. 1206 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:59.560 You know something again, you mentioned the crescent moon, and uh, yeah, 1207 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.199 I can say it earlier, but I don't just forgot, 1208 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.640 uh you know, when we're talking about like I guess, 1209 01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:11.119 you know, conception and everything. I've often thought and I 1210 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:13.119 think somebody might have actually said it to me. May 1211 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.600 not be original idea. So I just want to put 1212 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:19.319 that out there the way I explain that my experience 1213 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:22.000 with crossing the Abyss at the end, it is very 1214 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:24.600 much almost like kind of going out the same way 1215 01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:27.840 it came in. I will see that eclipse and eventually 1216 01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.560 turn into a crescent moon, and the black part Blackspiel, 1217 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.960 will get pulled away from the white one. The poles 1218 01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.319 will separate, and then it's an explosion of light and 1219 01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:39.359 I'm gone. So it's like, you know, there's an explosion 1220 01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:41.920 of light coming into the physical sense. And then when 1221 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:44.079 I separate, when I believe I separate the soul from 1222 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:48.760 the body, there's an explosion of light going out, you know. 1223 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.960 And I will see a crescent moon in my visual 1224 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.960 at some point when it starts to slowly pull apart, 1225 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:55.279 it looks like a crescent moon apart. 1226 01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.239 And then yeah, and you see that crescent moon in 1227 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:04.000 these moon these male moon deities going back into man 1228 01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:08.279 or Manny coming into Addis. But you also see that 1229 01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:14.039 crescent moon in numerous places of these numerous different god 1230 01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:15.640 forms all over the earth. 1231 01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.119 Tod who's associated with the hemaphrodite. 1232 01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:25.000 Yep, And that crescent is the the beak of the. 1233 01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:30.279 Of the ibis in regard to thought, and it was 1234 01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.039 considered also as a writing nib in regard to prophecy. 1235 01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:39.239 So yeah, yeah, I only associated the moon with being 1236 01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:42.079 like a feminine energy that, oh yeah for sure. 1237 01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.039 Well so thought right. 1238 01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:49.439 Within Egyptian mythology rode in the moon and the moon 1239 01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:52.960 was isis basically right, but thought was represented as the 1240 01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.039 dark side of the moon, you know, like pink floyd, 1241 01:16:56.720 --> 01:17:00.319 which is basically considered to be the hidden wisdom of 1242 01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.600 the divine feminine. So there is a direct correlation with 1243 01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:06.119 the feminine for sure. 1244 01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:10.039 I was going to say, because it controls your it's 1245 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.600 supposed to if you're living right, it's supposed to control 1246 01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.239 your minstrual cycle. 1247 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:20.239 Right, and the tides coming and going of the tides, 1248 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:23.800 you know. I think it goes deep when you get 1249 01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:29.720 into the moon and the basically creating the structure for 1250 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.840 life on the planet in regard to you know, the 1251 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:36.359 movement and not letting everything on Earth lay. 1252 01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:41.000 Stagnant poulation can sometimes be connected to the moon too. Sorry, 1253 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:41.560 you guys go. 1254 01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:45.760 Just usually full moons, that's when you do. I don't 1255 01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.840 know about female, but I do know living on a 1256 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:51.680 rancher farm or whatever you do have. If you have 1257 01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:57.479 animals that are about to drop, it never fails the 1258 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.560 full moon. They they'll all end up dropping the same time. 1259 01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.800 And within the agricultural ideas of the moon, right, you 1260 01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:08.880 would plant on a new moon when there's no moon, 1261 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.800 because what's going to happen is as the moon is 1262 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.079 building an energy and becoming more and more full, it's 1263 01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:18.520 actually working on those plants to pull them out of 1264 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.960 the ground. So it's in regard to the growth of 1265 01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:25.840 you know, life itself in the plant form. 1266 01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:28.520 So yeah, the moon is Yeah, what's that? 1267 01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:31.800 No, I always thought that like at night when you're observing, 1268 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.239 like you know, your plants or whatever, like they look 1269 01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:37.680 so alive that night. Yeah, yeah, I'm like they're growing, 1270 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:39.600 I swear to God, and like you always children, you 1271 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:41.079 know when they wake up the next morning like you 1272 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.399 grew last night, Right, It's like. 1273 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:45.000 Yeah, shop overnight. 1274 01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.079 And that's traditionally you receive the energy from the sun, 1275 01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:53.199 that is the vivifying and programming energy, and then when 1276 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:57.119 you go into that state of sweep or comatose where 1277 01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:00.479 the moon works its energies on you, that's when you healing. 1278 01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.199 You're growing you're doing all the necessary things that you know, 1279 01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:09.840 encourage health with me and decomposition. 1280 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.359 On the opposite end as well. 1281 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.680 I don't think that we know anything about what the 1282 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.279 moon really is because it's like if you stand in 1283 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:23.920 the shade at night versus the moonlight, the shade is 1284 01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:25.119 cooler than the moonlight. 1285 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:28.840 So there is like something radiating off of the bitch 1286 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.039 and it's growing. 1287 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:35.159 It's like you said, things grow in the moonlight, your 1288 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:39.279 your ovulation, your minstrel. There's there is an energy force 1289 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.439 around the moon. Like I'm so sick and tired of 1290 01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.640 people being like, oh, it's a used car that aliens 1291 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.239 used to get here and then they just abandoned it. 1292 01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:49.520 And it's like, no way, dude, I can't get on 1293 01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:50.079 board with that. 1294 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.359 You know, it's interesting, go ahead, sorry, even cabalistically, when 1295 01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:57.359 do you look where the moon is? It's even something 1296 01:19:57.399 --> 01:19:59.239 that projects light out of it, and it's even coltic 1297 01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:03.560 imagery creator. But something I wanted to say before forgotten 1298 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:09.800 finally remembered, uh something, maybe Julia, why you might be misunderstood. 1299 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.680 And I think it's a huge issue amongst you know, 1300 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.439 even the occult and conspiracy or just in general that 1301 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.640 something that's not noticed to look at when you want 1302 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.079 to look at these planets or even spheres on like abolatry, 1303 01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:24.000 there's always going to be a male and a female 1304 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:27.079 idea to it. And I don't think that's widely known. 1305 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.239 It's just always thinking that this is always going to 1306 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:31.880 be male, that's always going to be female. There's always 1307 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.119 something with it. Like even with the moon Crowley at 1308 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:37.079 one point I think thought he was a reincarnation of 1309 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:41.439 of constant constant or I can't say it, pronounce it 1310 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.359 perfectly right now, that was a male deity of the moon. 1311 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.319 Most people didn't you know that, you know, like I think, 1312 01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.600 if you want to take a good idea of how 1313 01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.960 to even explain, maybe like this could be correct. It's 1314 01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:58.079 a theory of mine of like the male and female 1315 01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:02.239 aspect the moon itself would the structure of it would 1316 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.159 be the female, and then that light you're talking about 1317 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:05.920 reflecting off of it or coming out of it would 1318 01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:07.039 be the male aspect. 1319 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:14.199 I think it's awesome that those energies are balanced. I 1320 01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:19.479 just don't think it's talked about much. That's all right, right, yeah, exactly, 1321 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.119 We're super profound. Sorry, and Robbie, I just want to 1322 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:24.960 say that, Yeah, Nick was right on with that. That's 1323 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:26.800 even a ton tric understanding. If you look at any 1324 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:31.680 tontric iconography, there's always a female or a male deity implied, always, 1325 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.079 even if they're solo. We call the ecavira a solitary 1326 01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:38.319 hero form. But even if they're like that, there's always 1327 01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:42.039 little subtle implications that the theikini or the concert is 1328 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:45.319 in the image with them. And that's even a couplistic idea. 1329 01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:47.760 It's not just tontric because it's really their breath. It's 1330 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.560 really the breath of God. That's really the check. So 1331 01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:54.920 they're always there. So I agree with Nick. It's like 1332 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:55.359 the moon. 1333 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:58.760 Yeah, and you're right, Gulia, it has a feminine there's 1334 01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.760 a feminine element to the moon, but there's also a 1335 01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.000 masculine element. Because Nick and I have talked about this 1336 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.720 idea with like Toad into Hoodie before, there's an idea 1337 01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:13.119 that the time so this has been a three, but 1338 01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:17.439 can only express into the world in eight, so in Hode, 1339 01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:20.560 but then he can really only express in nine because 1340 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:23.319 there's actually plus one. There's time, right, so it's the 1341 01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:27.680 eight cycles plus one. So that's why he appears, which 1342 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:31.239 is yasode, which is nine. So you can see it's 1343 01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:35.039 like the mercurial force, the masculine energy has to travel 1344 01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:39.359 over to the Moon to actually take form. It cannot 1345 01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:42.640 just take form in d It has to come into 1346 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:45.640 formation onto the foundation. That's an interesting way. I just 1347 01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:47.800 thought with nix I was super profound and just wanted 1348 01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.119 to ref off that. Sorry about that. 1349 01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:52.800 Even another way, I want to even try to show that. 1350 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.159 And I didn't know this until the guy from a 1351 01:22:56.359 --> 01:22:58.800 Library of the Untold came on. I listened to one 1352 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.800 of his things. Uh, just again with this, Julie was 1353 01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:05.840 saying the moon with birth, you know, you know, with 1354 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:08.399 that whole aspect, if you were to be taken out 1355 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:09.680 of the Sun and put into a cave for like 1356 01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.600 a month or two, you're not going to drop any eggs. Yeah, 1357 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:17.119 so you need the sun to even You need both right, right? 1358 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.800 Yeah, absolutely, Well it's like yin and yang, right, Like 1359 01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:22.960 there's a bit a piece of each in both, right, 1360 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:25.720 Like it's never exclusive. 1361 01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:28.439 Complimentaries, not polarities. 1362 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.000 Yeah, and like I don't know if that has to 1363 01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:32.880 do with this, the skin obsorbing the sun, but your 1364 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:34.319 eyes are going to be taking that in as well. 1365 01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.760 Yeah, there there is a there's a theory that if 1366 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:41.720 you gaze upon the moon, especially a full moon, that 1367 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.399 it charges your pinial gland, especially at midnight, like it 1368 01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:48.479 makes it ready to receive all of the light the 1369 01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.960 next day. And the other thing that I wanted to say, 1370 01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.920 Tyrannian purple, the purple that was coveted by the royals, 1371 01:23:56.359 --> 01:24:00.439 can only be produced by sea snails. When you suppose 1372 01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:06.159 there they're there are secretions to moonlight and that I 1373 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:08.760 mean immediately you see it and it's clear, right, it 1374 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:12.600 doesn't look like at all, But then leave it in 1375 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:16.439 the moon. The next day it's it's purple. 1376 01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:23.439 Purp more than a foalsphorescent seaweed or whatever like them 1377 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:26.920 can make the water look like it's glowing and in 1378 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:27.640 the light. 1379 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.840 Yeah, man, there's guys do it. The moon is a 1380 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.159 photo developer's. 1381 01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:39.560 Yeah, you know something I want to I want to 1382 01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:42.279 toss in here too, And Lisa just reminded me of it, 1383 01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:44.920 and I swear one day we'll actually cover it in 1384 01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:47.159 Trolley's libresh or his rush. 1385 01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:47.399 Thing. 1386 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.600 You're praying to the sun at four different times of 1387 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:53.119 the day, and if you start looking at it correctly, 1388 01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:55.800 I think that you are seeing yourself actually priming or 1389 01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:58.159 per neeal gland for the way that you're supposed to 1390 01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:04.159 to actually get like full potential out of it. So 1391 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:06.199 I think, like what she was even saying, I think 1392 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:11.800 you even see that in ritualistic work. Oh oh and 1393 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:14.079 real quick, sorry, sorry, what I also wanted to add, 1394 01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.680 real quick and another reason why I again I thought 1395 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:18.680 I had something to do. I totally lost it. Sorry. 1396 01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:21.840 Is again, even in that description when you're talking about it, 1397 01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.880 you are in up barge and Toth is at the wheel. 1398 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.800 So again you have another crescent shape and you have 1399 01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:29.279 it associated with Toth. 1400 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:31.359 Right right right. 1401 01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:35.279 Well, even like going like in the sun four times 1402 01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:38.079 a day to do like your ritualistic work, it gets 1403 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:42.199 your eyeball exposed to the sun at four different times, 1404 01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:45.680 which is supposed to regulate your circadian rhythm and put 1405 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.039 all your hormones in a cascade in which they're supposed 1406 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.760 to function ideally and prepare you for sleep, which produces 1407 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:53.800 melatonin and allows all the growth and all the good 1408 01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:54.399 things to happen. 1409 01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:54.640 Right. 1410 01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:59.520 Interesting, Sorry, Julia, you were going to say, okay. 1411 01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:01.119 Oh, I was just gonna say, I didn't know. I 1412 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:04.760 don't know if Robbie was expecting the conversation to go 1413 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:12.199 this way. We've talked about literally every aspect of life today. 1414 01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:13.159 This is amazing. 1415 01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:18.319 It's you know, like to dig into these topics, you know, 1416 01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:22.000 especially when people know what they're talking about as far 1417 01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:25.920 as you know, you know. So now we got into 1418 01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:28.880 the details of the evergreen tree in regard to it 1419 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:33.239 being symbolic of everlasting life in spite of the death. 1420 01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:35.359 Of the winner, and and. 1421 01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:40.560 Oh here it is right here. We also see in 1422 01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.640 the ancient character of Sylvanus, who they set up the 1423 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:48.039 Sylvian schools after. You see him all over New England 1424 01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:52.039 as far as Sylvian learning, right, But he was the 1425 01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:57.319 woodland deity of the Saturnian Golden Age that was called 1426 01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:01.239 the god of the pine wood, very similar and related 1427 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:05.920 to Addis, right, And basically within the cult of Addis 1428 01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:11.880 they would have these sacred tree bears because the symbol 1429 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:15.960 of Addis was represented by this tall standing pine tree 1430 01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:19.239 fir tree, you know, depending on where you move within 1431 01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:21.079 these these different mystery schools. 1432 01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:21.319 Right. 1433 01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:25.319 And so it was on the day, the twenty second 1434 01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:29.720 day of March being three to two two, right, that 1435 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:34.039 a pine tree was cut and brought into the sanctuary 1436 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:39.119 of Kibili, where it was treated as a great divine entity. 1437 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.840 The duty of carrying the tree was entrusted to a 1438 01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:47.560 guild of tree bearers. And then we have these Zimmermen 1439 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:51.439 in Germany which built the cathedrals of Germany that were 1440 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.760 called the Zimmerman, which were the tree bears as well. 1441 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.600 So just kind of tying that in right. And then 1442 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.479 also at this same time, because we have Phrygia tied 1443 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:07.359 in with ancient Greece right in the year three two 1444 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:11.720 two BC, there is an ancient and eternal brotherhood of 1445 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:17.479 death that was formed in ancient Greece that descended from 1446 01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:24.159 ancient Grecian society dating back to Demosthenes. And then if 1447 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:26.600 we look at the Order of the skullen Bones right, 1448 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:30.399 their records, the way that they keep the records within 1449 01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:34.279 the skull and Bones, they always add three hundred and 1450 01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:37.399 twenty two years to whatever the current date is, so 1451 01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:43.239 ie in nineteen fifty they would record it as Anto 1452 01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:50.359 Demosthene twenty two seventy two. So you know, another cult 1453 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.159 or secret society here that we're seeing that's playing with 1454 01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:58.920 the cylindrical cycle, you know. But I think definitely ties 1455 01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:03.920 back to this ancient function and who was it? 1456 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:04.560 James G. 1457 01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:08.239 Fraser in his work he talks about they would basically 1458 01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:12.039 hollow this tree out and they would make an effigy 1459 01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:16.199 of Addis and put it in the tree, like Christ 1460 01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:20.760 in the Sarcophaga, or in the coffin, or Lazarus and 1461 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:25.359 the Sarcophagus, you know, and basically after three days they 1462 01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:29.399 would resurrect the god and then burn him. And James G. 1463 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:32.079 Fraser said, not only did they do that with Addis, 1464 01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:36.399 but in Egypt they'd had a very similar ritual where 1465 01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:39.119 they would hollow out a tree and put the put 1466 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.800 you know, Osyrus in and resurrect him up his horse. 1467 01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:45.680 So you know, we can see the ties between all 1468 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:46.760 these different cultures. 1469 01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:49.359 Quick question. 1470 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:54.159 Yeah, I don't want to open up a whole, entire 1471 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:57.720 new casserole of things, but. 1472 01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:03.039 Ye have think about like Santo Spinacci, and like he says, 1473 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.439 all this stuff is the same story, just repeated over, indifferent, 1474 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.079 like even the Christ story. And I hate to say 1475 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.399 that because I am a Christian, but sometimes I listen 1476 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:15.439 to his stuff and I'm like, God. 1477 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:16.920 Damn, he's got a point. 1478 01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:20.159 Listen, I will say, some of his old stuff, you'll 1479 01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.560 even I didn't know he was into it, even though 1480 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:25.760 I listened to him in the past. Some people had 1481 01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:27.640 sent it to me after I did the Eyeballs series. 1482 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:30.319 He has said some shit that I've even said on 1483 01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:32.880 this show. Just for some reason, people don't remember that stuff. 1484 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:36.119 He has actually some shit that I think is extremely deep, 1485 01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:38.920 and I think he understands what magic is. Maybe he's 1486 01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:41.199 blown out from fucking with it too much now, but 1487 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:43.960 that man was also something at some point the. 1488 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:47.199 Very beginnings of his YouTube channel, like if you go 1489 01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:49.840 back and you watch like the first couple videos, it'll 1490 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:52.640 make you think about stuff in a completely different way, 1491 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:54.800 kind of like what Robbie is saying today, Like this 1492 01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:59.800 story that repeats itself throughout cultures, throughout time through with 1493 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:03.319 the same like main character that does the same thing, 1494 01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:07.760 and it aligns with the planetary system, and like the zodiac, 1495 01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:08.640 and it's it's all. 1496 01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:11.119 I don't know, I don't know, just it just made 1497 01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:13.239 me think of that for sure, for sure. 1498 01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:18.720 So now within the temple of Addis, right, the drinking 1499 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:22.159 of wine was not allowed at all, and there was 1500 01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.279 a legend that when Addis roamed the woods with just 1501 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:31.279 Agnetus being mother Kibli, who deeply loved the beautiful Addis, 1502 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:36.880 even though not naturally adequate. While under the influence of wine, 1503 01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.840 Addis confessed his love for the castrated Andrew John, in 1504 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.840 which there is some thought about this cult being against 1505 01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:48.439 the ideas of sexual pleasure, which we talked about in 1506 01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:53.960 purifying themselves in such a demonstrably bloody manner in regard 1507 01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:59.720 to removing their generative organs. Right, and in this ritual 1508 01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:04.880 it was also implied a sacred marriage of the initiati 1509 01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:08.520 to the Goddess herself in the form of what they 1510 01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:15.760 call the highri gamos, which is basically the divine marriage 1511 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.680 of you know, the God and the goddess, or the 1512 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:21.439 Goddess and the mortal, or depends on. But there's this 1513 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:27.880 this essential idea of this bridal chamber, right, and this 1514 01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:33.920 was a high level initiatory right in ancient schools called 1515 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:38.720 the hirogami of the Mysteries, in that there was a 1516 01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:43.560 holy marriage between Addis and the goddess Mother Kibili, just 1517 01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:47.720 as Jesus is referred to the bridegroom in multiple passages 1518 01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:51.199 of the Bible, as in John four four through forty two, 1519 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:56.000 where Jesus is depicted as the bridegroom Messiah who offers 1520 01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:02.760 eternal life right, and I have appeared, yeah, and in 1521 01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:07.840 this sacred marriage. Once the sacred marriage precipitated, the initiate 1522 01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.319 would become a priest or, a priestess of the Goddess, 1523 01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:18.680 potentially a high level tantric cleric devoted to the mother, 1524 01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:25.840 and the initiate of the cult participated in purification processes, 1525 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:31.239 trials and degrees of elevation, fasting, and eventually the divine 1526 01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:35.800 marriage and the bridegroom chamber becoming a supplicant servant of 1527 01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:41.119 the divine virgin Goddess. Clement of Alexandria, who was initiated 1528 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:46.119 into the cult before his Christian conversion, relates that when 1529 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:51.119 being indoctrinated into the Phrygian Rites, he was schooled to say, 1530 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:55.319 I have eaten from the tambourine, I have drunk from 1531 01:33:55.399 --> 01:34:01.199 the sibyl, I have carried the kenos of stolen into 1532 01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:07.319 the bridal chamber. And it basically just relates to the 1533 01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:14.600 aspects of this sacred Hiroscamos considered by the Pythagoreans to 1534 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:19.119 be represented by the number five being halfway, as the 1535 01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:23.039 marriage is halfway between the Earth and the heavens being 1536 01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:25.640 the merging of spirit and matter. 1537 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:32.399 Damn right, that's a mind. 1538 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:35.560 That's an excerpt gives. 1539 01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.600 Which kind of gives a nod to the Pythagoreans obsession 1540 01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:41.439 with the number. 1541 01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:45.960 Ten, right, the one and the zero, the void and 1542 01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:50.479 the generative factor, the reproductive again, back to the sacred 1543 01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:51.399 mystic idea of. 1544 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:55.680 Generation and the five being that middle point. 1545 01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:02.600 Between heaven and Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely soon. 1546 01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.720 I feel like I need to be smarter to understand 1547 01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:06.359 this stuff. 1548 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:09.800 Getting older and then you have to die. 1549 01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:12.039 Yeah, it's like. 1550 01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:15.000 Like I gotta do this over again. 1551 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.199 Even some of the stuff that Nick talks about with 1552 01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:21.399 like becoming a magician or like what it is to 1553 01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.199 be a part of like this this mystery type of 1554 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.960 religion stuff, I can't under fucking stand some of it. 1555 01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:31.000 Like I'm like, maybe I'm just stupid. 1556 01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:35.520 I don't know, no, no, you I jumped into the 1557 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:36.680 middle of stuff. That's why. 1558 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.840 Beginning when you're investigating the stuff, you don't understand any 1559 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.159 of it. But the more you're exposed to it, the 1560 01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:47.319 more you begin to like see the cross references and 1561 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:50.119 how the dots connect, and the picture gets bigger and bigger. 1562 01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:55.319 It's a gradual learning process. It takes years and years 1563 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:57.159 and years to go through, you. 1564 01:35:57.199 --> 01:36:01.199 Know, but just realize, you know thing and you're like, okay, 1565 01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:04.640 right down again. 1566 01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:05.520 Yeah. 1567 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:07.000 Yeah, But that's what I was going to say. 1568 01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:10.439 Even where I'm at now, after all these years of study, 1569 01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:15.319 I'm constantly coming into certain concepts and ideas where I'm like, 1570 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:18.279 I have no idea what this means, and so you know, 1571 01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:21.439 you delve into it. You kind of you know, wash 1572 01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:24.159 yourself in it and kind of try to understand what 1573 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:25.520 it is, so. 1574 01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:31.319 That it's so vast and so beautiful. It's so amazing tapestry. 1575 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.960 And I think sometimes as humans were like we're on 1576 01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:37.239 looking at the tapestry like too close because because we 1577 01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:40.399 have such a small perspective, right, But it's like God 1578 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:44.439 has the wide view and he's like, don't worry, it's okay. 1579 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:47.680 You know, it's gonna all work out or whatever your 1580 01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:49.720 viewpoint is. That's why it all looks different. 1581 01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:55.039 Literally, there's a song about that, and uh, you probably 1582 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:59.119 watched the Teresa, Prince of Egypt when he goes and 1583 01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:01.439 he meets his wife in the desert. 1584 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.600 The Ethiopian lady and her. 1585 01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:07.560 Dad is like, you know, everything is a tapestry and 1586 01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:10.560 all the woven colors make up the entire picture. 1587 01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:12.079 That's that's how I feel. 1588 01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:15.159 Even like with podcasting and meeting like people like Jen 1589 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.800 and Nick and Robbie, it's like their perspective is so 1590 01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:22.479 different than mine that it opens me up to like 1591 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:27.600 all a ton of different possibilities of what's what reality 1592 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:28.159 really is? 1593 01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:31.439 You know, yeah it is, yeah, And the mindscape is infinite, 1594 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:36.319 you know, So it's the finite versus the infinite all 1595 01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:41.079 within us, you know. So Now, it was after this 1596 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:44.800 sacred marriage and the castration would happen if you get 1597 01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:48.000 into the Roman stories, you know, basically it was called 1598 01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:50.159 the Day of Blood. It was one of the festival 1599 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:53.359 seasons that they would have, and all the Day of 1600 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:55.199 Blood they would work up to it and they would 1601 01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:58.800 castrate themselves in a frenzy. They you know, doing these 1602 01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:01.680 dances and they have these swords and they're cutting themselves. 1603 01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:05.439 Blood's going everywhere. And at the height of that day 1604 01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:08.960 of blood was when they would separate themselves from their 1605 01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:14.640 generative force basically, and they would throw it through a 1606 01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:18.399 window as they were running through the streets, and whoever's 1607 01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:22.159 window it went in, had to basically get women's clothes 1608 01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:25.600 and make up and all the stuff for first aid, 1609 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:29.159 and go out and take care of them and put 1610 01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:33.039 the divine feminine sacred garments on them and put makeup 1611 01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:36.399 on them, and then they would become risen as a 1612 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:41.479 high priest of Mother Kibli. Right so, and then it 1613 01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:45.600 was at an unspecified time in the ancient Notes of 1614 01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:53.239 Scalia that discussed the chambers of Lobrin as being sacred 1615 01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:59.039 subterranean places where the worshipers of Attis and Rhea had 1616 01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:04.760 In had Oh, who had emsculated themselves used to come 1617 01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:12.199 to deposit their genitals. Right Marquius Mincius Felix in his 1618 01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:20.319 Octavius relates that these broken instruments of fertility were afterward 1619 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:24.479 reverently wrapped up and buried in the earth in subterranean 1620 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:29.079 chambers sacred to Kibili. And then this goes back to 1621 01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:34.119 James G. Frasier that postulates that we may conjecture that 1622 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:37.720 in the olden days, the priests who bore the name 1623 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:41.560 and played the part of Addis at the spring festival 1624 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:45.880 of Kibili was regularly hanged or otherwise slain upon the 1625 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:50.000 sacred tree, just as balder, the beautiful. 1626 01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:53.840 And the making what this is something else that's repeated 1627 01:39:53.960 --> 01:40:01.479 throughout multiple that you know, getting into Kennedy and you 1628 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:02.760 know what happened to. 1629 01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.840 Not to be graphic, but what happened to the Genitalia. 1630 01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:11.199 Yeah. They would they would go to this place called 1631 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:17.479 the Lobraine and basically they would take these uh, these 1632 01:40:17.720 --> 01:40:21.000 units as they were wrapped up, and then they probably 1633 01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:23.439 cleaned them and wrapped them and then they would bury 1634 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.199 them in the earth. And I would imagine it has 1635 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:30.079 something to do with fertility, you know. I know at 1636 01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:33.760 the Tower of London, when they would castraight people, they 1637 01:40:33.800 --> 01:40:37.239 would actually throw their members into the courtyard for the 1638 01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:38.439 ravens to devour. 1639 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:42.960 Oh my god, I guess circumcisions sounds so bad compared 1640 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:43.159 to that. 1641 01:40:43.640 --> 01:40:47.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, at least you still have some 1642 01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:48.239 of it left. 1643 01:40:55.800 --> 01:41:01.600 I can't, I can see it's now just imagine they're like, yeah, 1644 01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:03.479 they take one and it falls out of its beak 1645 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:04.399 and hit somebody on the head. 1646 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:05.359 Yeah. 1647 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:06.039 God. 1648 01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:09.279 So, but now what we have to understand within this 1649 01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:15.039 whole process, right, that this process was generally seen as 1650 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:20.680 being a voluntary process entering willingly for the transmutation in 1651 01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:24.920 a secret manner of ascension. This harvesting of the green 1652 01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:27.439 corn is what they call this. In some of the 1653 01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:31.640 text shot the mind into a death or a near 1654 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:37.079 death like experience, right, and uh, let's see uh creating 1655 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:42.960 a sense of transformation, salvation, and illumination of a divine 1656 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.760 madness of sorts, which Plato gets into extensively. But so 1657 01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:53.000 the guard he believed that the unit priests put themselves 1658 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:59.920 in a permanent, permanent limity, irreversibly placing themselves outside of 1659 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.920 ordinary human nature, being neither gods nor men, but something 1660 01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:05.640 in between. 1661 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:12.640 So wow, okay, I have I have a question in 1662 01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:17.560 jen you're brining to correct me. So this, this belief system, 1663 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:23.680 this practice originated Mediterranean esque, right, I was worn original? 1664 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.920 Didn't corn originate in the Americas? 1665 01:42:29.640 --> 01:42:32.880 So that's what is said. But in my own personal 1666 01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:36.399 experience with and maybe I think maybe you have had 1667 01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:39.479 this experience too, some of the things that they say 1668 01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:43.640 are indigenous plants that they actually have a much more 1669 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:48.399 universal distribution. Because a really great example of this is 1670 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:52.279 actually Detera. They used to say, oh, Detera in oxia 1671 01:42:52.439 --> 01:42:55.920 is the only American variety, but actually we have all 1672 01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:58.720 three kinds that appear in the Americas and have for 1673 01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:04.000 a very long time, perhaps pre European colonization. So but 1674 01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:07.079 this also appears in India and all three kinds, and 1675 01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:09.399 then also appears in all the Himalayas and all of Asia, 1676 01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:12.079 because we know we have medical Chinese medical texts from 1677 01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:15.159 three thousand years ago that actually detail the use of it, 1678 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:19.600 so we know these things must have been universal rather 1679 01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:24.760 than geographically limited. So I don't I don't know to 1680 01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:27.479 answer your question, like really properly, Lisa, Like I don't 1681 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.199 know if if I'm going to give a theory. I 1682 01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.720 actually think that probably they did originate, like I think 1683 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:38.279 corn and tomatoes probably did originate in Mexico or the 1684 01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:43.399 Southwest area, but maybe there was other points of contact. 1685 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:45.920 And obviously JJ was talking about this like with the 1686 01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:46.840 templars and the. 1687 01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:50.960 So like when you get into that that idea, I've 1688 01:43:51.119 --> 01:43:54.760 come across numerous places where they say that the Egyptian 1689 01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:58.000 is called wheat corn, so you know it may have 1690 01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:00.920 been just and corn is a grand as wheat as 1691 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.720 the grass. So maybe any of these fruit producing grasses 1692 01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:07.920 at one time were called corn. But as far as 1693 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:12.159 other areas of connection, you know, you have within the 1694 01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:17.359 Egyptian the hieroglyphs representations of pineapples from South America. They're 1695 01:44:17.399 --> 01:44:21.960 bringing cocaine from South America to preserve the pharaoh's heart within. 1696 01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:24.920 And I actually have seen a couple places where they 1697 01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:29.560 have ears of corn in Egyptian hieroglyphs. So yeah, I 1698 01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:32.960 think it's synonymous. I think there was a global culture 1699 01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:37.800 that was that was moving much more than we think possible. 1700 01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:41.840 Yeah, if you watch enough ancient Aliens, you'll learn that 1701 01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.720 wheat and corn came from Aliens and everybody had the 1702 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:51.600 ship at one point, and so specifically wheat and corn 1703 01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:53.079 are Alien. 1704 01:44:54.880 --> 01:44:55.039 Yep. 1705 01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:58.319 I'm not saying I'm not saying that's my opinion. I'm 1706 01:44:58.359 --> 01:44:59.960 just saying what Asia Aliens said. 1707 01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:00.520 No. 1708 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:03.319 I think that's a great point, though, Julia is because 1709 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:06.720 one thing that well, like Robbie said, like corn is 1710 01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:10.079 a poe schet. It's a grass family plant. So there 1711 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.760 are other grass family plants are actually extremely important for 1712 01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:17.079 human history. Like many of the grass family plants are edible. 1713 01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:20.880 One of the first grains in Asia was called jobs 1714 01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:23.000 t here. Well, obviously they didn't call it jobs here, 1715 01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:26.000 but we call it jobs here and that's a very nutritive, 1716 01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:31.039 very medicinal, actually edible grain. That's I eat it all 1717 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.560 the time. It's very delicious. It's not gross or anything. 1718 01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:35.880 So but I'm just what I'm trying to say is that, 1719 01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:38.840 like you look at the history, it's like millet, it's 1720 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:43.640 like it's it's not exactly. The wheat culture came much 1721 01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:47.000 much later. And so yeah, and I and I think 1722 01:45:47.079 --> 01:45:50.800 that the grass component is actually often overlooked by a 1723 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:54.199 lot of like a Bible conspiracy. I'm not throwing Christians 1724 01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:58.399 at any interesting Bible conspiracy people, and just in general, 1725 01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:00.560 O call like as Nick would say, oh call consiracy, 1726 01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:04.399 like I think that they they don't really know bodny. 1727 01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:06.039 And I'm not saying you have to be like, I'm 1728 01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:08.079 not an excellent bonus myself. I'm just saying, if you 1729 01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:11.119 understand some of the connections between them, you can actually 1730 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:13.840 make more logical conclusions. 1731 01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:20.079 Yeah. And also if you get into the early Judaic texts, 1732 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:24.720 they talk about basically when Adam was ejected from Paradise, 1733 01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:28.399 that he was sent into the lowest realm of darkness 1734 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:31.960 and had to suffer down there. Before they he was 1735 01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:34.079 weeping in prayer and they finally brought him up to 1736 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:37.359 this realm where we are now, and then he had 1737 01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:40.640 a problem getting food and was just he tried to 1738 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.279 drown himself in the river and God had to bring 1739 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:46.119 him back to life, and he was crying because. 1740 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:46.560 He was hungry. 1741 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:50.600 And so one of the angels went to God and 1742 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:53.960 basically was like, you know, he's starving, what are we 1743 01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:58.319 going to do? And God or the Elohim basically took 1744 01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:01.720 part of his own body and like rubbed it and 1745 01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:07.640 condensed it down into the very first wheak germ or 1746 01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:11.600 the wheat kernel, and then the angel brought that to Adam, 1747 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:15.439 and then Adam became the first farmer, you know, associated 1748 01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:18.199 with the red earth. And then the bread is what 1749 01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:21.920 fed the growing, it growing in expanding civilization. 1750 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:25.640 I was gonna say, wheat is mentioned so many times 1751 01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:29.600 in the Bible as being spiritually significant, the wheat and 1752 01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:36.439 the tears. You're right, yes, yeah, yeah, I do think 1753 01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:40.279 it's spiritually significant, especially if it comes from aliens. 1754 01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:44.760 Fat is interesting that, like you're saying, Adam's own flesh 1755 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:47.359 then became wheat, because then you have Christ becoming the 1756 01:47:47.399 --> 01:47:48.399 Eucharist in the mask. 1757 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:52.119 Well, it was God's flesh that became weak, oh God's flesh. Okay, Oh, 1758 01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:54.920 so then that makes sense that, like, you know, it 1759 01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:56.159 makes more sense. Yeah, exactly. 1760 01:47:56.359 --> 01:47:58.479 Okay, back to melt cheese, a dick with the bread 1761 01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:01.640 and the wine and the first second. Yeah, you know. 1762 01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:09.560 So now let's see, like Addis as far as this 1763 01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:13.279 figure that would demasculated and be risen to the state 1764 01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:16.479 of you know, the priestess of the Kibili cult, right, 1765 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:22.560 Like Addis, the demasculated disciple emulates the secret of the 1766 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:27.399 Mother of the mountains. And this secret of Kibili is 1767 01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:33.880 that she is the hermaphroditic Agnatus, who herself was emasculated 1768 01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:37.640 by a messenger of the gods. As we talked about earlier, 1769 01:48:38.479 --> 01:48:44.720 and in the Hittite religion before we're looking at sixteen 1770 01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:51.159 hundred to eleven eighty BC, Agdatus is also their sacred hermaphrodite. 1771 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:55.640 So it's just let me read this last paragraph and 1772 01:48:55.720 --> 01:48:57.760 then this wi wrap it up. In some ways, it 1773 01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:02.000 seems as though Addis and and Kibili were an older 1774 01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:06.520 form of this fertility worship that from Phrygia in its 1775 01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:12.520 trans translation into Syria, becoming Adonis and Aphrodite and to 1776 01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:17.920 the figures bring us closer to the original route of 1777 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:24.479 the the origins of these mystery schools, you know, in 1778 01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:30.439 essence in relation to Nimrod tamuz Osirius and the expanding 1779 01:49:31.159 --> 01:49:34.399 you know school as it spread globally. 1780 01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:40.600 And that's it. Wow, So barn Burner, Robbie, I mean, 1781 01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:46.319 literally you crushed. It always does. 1782 01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:51.880 So. But that's basically what I've been working on the 1783 01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:57.159 swimmer and that's that's part of the book that uh 1784 01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:01.079 you know, parts of that are direct excerpts from my book. 1785 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.680 So yeah, that's that's awesome. 1786 01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:09.520 I mean, I feel like I learned a ton That's great. 1787 01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:12.520 Something I did want to add about the whole wheat thing, 1788 01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:18.199 and I mean Lisa could concur and Soca Teresa because 1789 01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:20.560 she was in the series, so she knows what I'm 1790 01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:22.960 talking about. I'm not crazy, but we did at one 1791 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:24.840 point kind of like show like what the Zamiles is 1792 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:27.960 in looks like underneath in your eye, and it does 1793 01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:30.439 very much look like a wheat or almost depending on 1794 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:32.159 what the way you're looking at it, and if you're 1795 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:33.920 showing I think like there's like pole up things kind 1796 01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:36.199 of in there, almost looks like a lavender, which again 1797 01:50:36.279 --> 01:50:39.800 is associated with total Uh. The zanniles is in in 1798 01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:43.000 your eye is what actually makes your lens raise up 1799 01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:46.399 and down, and that's when you get the whole change 1800 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:50.520 and everything starts going on inside your eye. I even 1801 01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:54.800 question when we talk about your sol being the machinery 1802 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.439 or the imagery of the world. I often wonder, and 1803 01:50:57.520 --> 01:50:59.479 it's called that you're considered a machiner or a mechanism 1804 01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:01.680 in a sense, or I from wonder if it's actually 1805 01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:04.319 talking about that, because that is actually what's changing the 1806 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:06.800 direction of light in your eye, if it's reflecting out 1807 01:51:06.840 --> 01:51:10.000 this way or going back up that way. So I 1808 01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:12.399 often wonder about like wheat, when it's always you see 1809 01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:15.439 it always kind of in a circular shape, and you're 1810 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:19.600 talking about rising bread on leaven, is it actually showing 1811 01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:23.039 the whole rising the lens in your eye. I know 1812 01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:24.760 that's a little out there. And then just one thing 1813 01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.399 I wanted to mention before you know, everybody else says whatever, 1814 01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:30.479 before we wrap it up with this image right here. 1815 01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:34.359 If you see that, uh, the thing on top of 1816 01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:38.840 his head, that's exactly what it starts to look like. 1817 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:41.520 When I say the eclipse starts to separate from itself, 1818 01:51:42.199 --> 01:51:46.079 and during that whole time, it's a little bit much. 1819 01:51:46.119 --> 01:51:47.800 But this is just my theory because of my own 1820 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:50.479 experiences of my own visions. During that whole time, I'm 1821 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:53.920 always pressing on my pineal gland really fucking hard, and 1822 01:51:54.079 --> 01:51:57.119 once those two things separate from each other, it feels 1823 01:51:57.159 --> 01:51:59.800 like it snaps back and punches me in the head. 1824 01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.000 And that's when I see the light and it goes. 1825 01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:06.159 I often think about the whole way that a snake fights, 1826 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:09.840 goes forward to strike and then pulls back when it's 1827 01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:15.279 in flight, fight in the flight at the same at 1828 01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:18.520 the same time, just like Horace, who is a bird 1829 01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:22.359 that is a warrior, flight and fight at the same time. 1830 01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:26.479 And I also conclude that that's exactly why my eyes changed, 1831 01:52:26.479 --> 01:52:28.600 because one is in fight mode and the other one's 1832 01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:33.479 in flight mode at the same time. Right, So that's 1833 01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:36.039 the go ahead. 1834 01:52:37.920 --> 01:52:40.239 I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry. I was so excited 1835 01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:42.119 after you were saying that, because I was like, yeah, 1836 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:45.159 I mean, that just shows that having the magical experience 1837 01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:48.600 is as good as as like understanding the image, because 1838 01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:51.399 that's what it looks like, a cruscent moon, but it's 1839 01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:55.399 really the eclipse, and only someone who really knows would 1840 01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:57.560 know that, Like a normative Hindu won't know that. I 1841 01:52:57.600 --> 01:52:58.720 won't be able to tell you. They'll be like, oh, 1842 01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:01.399 it's a crust the moon if sheba, it's the eclipse, 1843 01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:04.560 and even the snake confirms it, because the snake is 1844 01:53:04.640 --> 01:53:07.359 the god of the eclipse, right like the dragon Rahu. 1845 01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.399 So yeah, I think you don't even switch hilarities at 1846 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:11.319 that point, which is why I. 1847 01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:14.960 Get to say exactly. And so he's even depicted as 1848 01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:18.560 feminine Shiva even though he's he's clearly a masculine figure, 1849 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:22.199 so he's gone through that hermetic process. He's a risen 1850 01:53:22.359 --> 01:53:25.399 at yasoda at the moon, and the Shakti is there 1851 01:53:25.439 --> 01:53:28.199 waiting for him. The feminine force at the moon is 1852 01:53:28.239 --> 01:53:30.319 there waiting for him, but it's really always with him. 1853 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.560 But maybe she can't express herself fully until she's there. 1854 01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:36.199 So I think that's a really interesting idea. 1855 01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:37.960 It's like your soul pouring out of your head too. 1856 01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:39.600 I always say it feels like it's just fucking like. 1857 01:53:41.159 --> 01:53:45.079 Yeah, well that's that's what it is. It's like when 1858 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.399 they worship Shiva, who could be considered to be like 1859 01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:54.680 Ihovah or rudra. He can they pour milk on his hijaya, 1860 01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:58.039 which just means his crown on it is that that's 1861 01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:01.479 the big bun thing that he wears. It's like it's 1862 01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:04.359 like a lump of flush. Sometimes it's described sometimes it's 1863 01:54:04.399 --> 01:54:07.960 like a dreadlock. It depends on the text. But it's 1864 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:12.359 to pacify the arising consciousness at your so like to 1865 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:15.359 pacify him so he's cool and calm, like the moon. 1866 01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:17.640 So that's what the whole thing of the milk is. 1867 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.880 It's like pouring milk over the black stone. What color 1868 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.039 does arise? Turquoise? Turquoise like the day sky. So you're 1869 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:27.600 putting God to sleep. That's kind of the idea. 1870 01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:35.319 So thank you. This is a great illustration. Man. Anybody 1871 01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:36.800 else have anything? I know, I kind of like took 1872 01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:37.960 it over and got wear right there. 1873 01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:43.399 That's good. I was just going to say something about 1874 01:54:43.399 --> 01:54:44.880 the wheat because you brought. 1875 01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:45.079 It up to. 1876 01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.520 It's one of the most genetically modified. 1877 01:54:50.479 --> 01:54:53.720 Things that we have, and it's it's a damn shame 1878 01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:57.680 because I love pasta, you know, and I love bread. 1879 01:54:58.920 --> 01:54:59.920 I loves carbs. 1880 01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.319 Okay, it's a genetic like we've eaten bread for as 1881 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:06.680 long as human as you know, can record history. I 1882 01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:09.000 think it's just part of who and the fact that 1883 01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:12.520 they've taken it and genetically modified it is an adulteration 1884 01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:14.199 and inversion of nature. 1885 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.720 It's an attack on us, Robbie, is what it is. 1886 01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:22.760 Because the problem right well, and the problem is I've 1887 01:55:22.760 --> 01:55:25.720 been looking into it a lot lately, is that, like 1888 01:55:26.039 --> 01:55:31.359 Monsanto and stuff like this, they they have popularized the 1889 01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:37.920 idea of spraying all wheat products with folic acid, which 1890 01:55:37.960 --> 01:55:41.640 your body can't even digest most of the time. It 1891 01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:46.000 causes horrible health issues fortified. If you see something on 1892 01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:51.840 a label that says enriched wheat, fortified wheat, or folic acid, 1893 01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:54.600 you need to stay the fuck away from it as 1894 01:55:54.640 --> 01:55:58.039 far as you possibly can. The only type of wheat 1895 01:55:58.079 --> 01:56:02.279 you should be eating should be organic wheat that's unfortified, 1896 01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:04.920 not enriched, no folic acid. 1897 01:56:05.800 --> 01:56:06.960 There is a form of. 1898 01:56:09.039 --> 01:56:11.640 Fullic acid quote unquote that's not full of acid that 1899 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.560 your body can't absorb, but that's not what they're using. 1900 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:20.800 So it's just been weaponized against us so that it's 1901 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:25.479 basically poison, which which sucks, Like I said, because America 1902 01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:28.760 is a nation that loves carbs, you. 1903 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:32.159 Know, it's interesting when you said so, like folic acid 1904 01:56:32.840 --> 01:56:36.640 was incorporated into wheat because wheat was a staple, because 1905 01:56:37.319 --> 01:56:41.399 so many of birth defects, and folic acid is folate, 1906 01:56:41.600 --> 01:56:44.640 you know, which the B vitamin and most of your 1907 01:56:44.720 --> 01:56:49.319 B vitamins are derived from animal products. But if you 1908 01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:54.800 look at historical genetic lines and gen plice interject if 1909 01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:57.640 I'm wrong. When you look at historical lines of wheat 1910 01:56:57.960 --> 01:57:02.159 as well as corn, most of the ancient lines had 1911 01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:07.039 a higher protein content than they do today. They were 1912 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:13.000 almost a complete meal or complete food with a higher 1913 01:57:14.159 --> 01:57:19.239 amino acid profile than they do today. And through so 1914 01:57:19.359 --> 01:57:23.720 many modifications, all of the nutrient content has been brought down. 1915 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:26.680 And that's also because of soil. The same type of 1916 01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:29.079 things that we grow back in the day used to 1917 01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:31.600 warm your house with wood and the ashes would go 1918 01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:36.239 into the soil and then basically, you know, feed more 1919 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:39.800 of the microbiome of the soil and then you you 1920 01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:43.520 know whatever. But if you do look at that, I 1921 01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:46.880 wonder how much of it is. Maybe that it was 1922 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:50.680 a way to interject B vitamins, but maybe B vitamins 1923 01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:55.239 were also not being how do you say they were 1924 01:57:55.239 --> 01:58:01.119 stripped of wheat in its plant form to you know, 1925 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:04.479 I get the need for it, but I think what 1926 01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:08.399 we've done is and Robbie, you do this perfectly on Twitter. 1927 01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:11.359 It's the simulacra what wheat used to be. 1928 01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:16.319 It's no longer. Weah like this fake weak shadows of. 1929 01:58:17.199 --> 01:58:22.000 Yes, yes, as the valuable thing that is, but it's 1930 01:58:22.079 --> 01:58:24.119 not the shadow of its former self. 1931 01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:24.680 Right. 1932 01:58:24.840 --> 01:58:28.479 But we're getting to wheat right in the beginning. The 1933 01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:32.239 very first time it was genetically modified was they took 1934 01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:35.680 and there was the same guy that genetically modified the 1935 01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:40.640 ruby red grapefruit, right, but they used gamma radiation on 1936 01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:45.199 the genome of wheat and basically bombarded it with radiation, 1937 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:50.159 these gamma rays, and they created a bush wheat that 1938 01:58:50.279 --> 01:58:56.000 would grow faster and would bush out with bigger kernels. 1939 01:58:56.359 --> 01:58:59.239 So here you're talking about getting rid of the pro 1940 01:58:59.479 --> 01:59:04.960 the the profile of the essential you know, protein and 1941 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:08.760 the amino acids, and and basically they poofed it out 1942 01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:12.600 super big so that they have to harvest it early 1943 01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:16.960 before it's even done, otherwise it breaks off and they 1944 01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:18.079 can't harvest. 1945 01:59:17.800 --> 01:59:18.720 It with machines. 1946 01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:22.279 But the guy that did that, he won a Nobel 1947 01:59:22.359 --> 01:59:27.359 Peace Prize in food science for basically creating this this 1948 01:59:27.560 --> 01:59:31.920 big bush gmo wheat. And that was in the fifties 1949 01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:35.800 when that happened initially, and since then, you know, Monsanto's 1950 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:39.920 come in and with their cassettes injected NU genomes for 1951 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:42.640 the glycophade, so they have to spray everything with it 1952 01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:43.720 so that it kills everything. 1953 01:59:43.960 --> 01:59:46.680 But that I was gonna say that is like they've 1954 01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:49.079 just taken it one step further, one step further. 1955 01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:54.720 Now it's like an unrecognizable plant but frank and wheat, right. 1956 01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:56.880 But think of it like if it was like manna 1957 01:59:56.960 --> 01:59:59.920 from heaven, you know, like this, think of it if 1958 02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:04.520 if it really was given to us by the gods 1959 02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:07.960 quote unquote wheat, this thing that you can eat that 1960 02:00:08.119 --> 02:00:11.119 has all the vitamins and protein and like whatever, it'll 1961 02:00:11.159 --> 02:00:15.760 keep you alive. And they they've bastardized it to the 1962 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:19.720 form of wheat that we eat now. And it's like 1963 02:00:19.800 --> 02:00:23.600 I said, I'm like a super label reader because I 1964 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:28.479 do enjoy some things that are absolutely for you, you know, 1965 02:00:28.640 --> 02:00:31.119 like I'll throw in a stove fer SMC and cheese 1966 02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:31.920 every now and again. 1967 02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:33.199 Don't get me wrong, but. 1968 02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:39.359 Yeah, I have one myself. It's not too bad. 1969 02:00:39.399 --> 02:00:45.439 Actually, dude, it's delicious, like solid delicious. 1970 02:00:45.880 --> 02:00:47.039 Yeah good. 1971 02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:55.560 I don't understand this conversation. I'm totally granola, but that's okay. 1972 02:00:56.159 --> 02:00:56.600 Uh No. 1973 02:00:56.760 --> 02:00:59.199 I did want to say something that Teresa was talking 1974 02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:02.199 about in that which is really profound, which is like 1975 02:01:02.399 --> 02:01:04.840 exactly what Robbie's saying, Like Robbie's making a great point 1976 02:01:04.880 --> 02:01:08.199 about weed. And then obviously Lisa made an amazing point 1977 02:01:08.199 --> 02:01:10.760 about how they stripped it of its nutrients content. Well, 1978 02:01:10.920 --> 02:01:13.880 papaya they did the same because you cannot modern papayas. 1979 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:16.520 If you've ever eaten a papaya or anything papaya flavored 1980 02:01:16.760 --> 02:01:19.840 that only comes out of the GMO industry, There is 1981 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:23.399 no papaya without GMO does not exist. Now, can you 1982 02:01:23.479 --> 02:01:25.720 go to Mexico and find wild papias, Yeah, I'm sure 1983 02:01:26.039 --> 02:01:30.920 it's possible, but it's very rare, and they've cross bred 1984 02:01:31.319 --> 02:01:35.199 a lot with the wild papaya population. Now, papias are 1985 02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:37.640 really interesting because you can actually use them for LATEX, 1986 02:01:38.279 --> 02:01:41.720 so the assex did make condoms out of them, so prophylactic. 1987 02:01:42.159 --> 02:01:45.119 It's also interesting because in doctrine of signatures, a papaya 1988 02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:47.800 is shaped like a womb, so there are actually a 1989 02:01:47.880 --> 02:01:55.159 bortisiceafin qualities in the popping latex. So again it's showing 1990 02:01:55.239 --> 02:01:57.960 like what Jili is saying, like it's manna from I 1991 02:01:58.079 --> 02:02:00.159 personally don't like that. It's not that I just free 1992 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:02.560 with you, Julie, but I think that we come up 1993 02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:05.479 with those things like we we say, oh, we see 1994 02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:08.199 this thing in nature, we take of it, and we 1995 02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:12.399 sort of you know, breed it, you could say, and 1996 02:02:12.520 --> 02:02:15.439 then that's the divine process. It's like our interaction with 1997 02:02:15.800 --> 02:02:18.720 that's how that's just personally my my how I think. So, yeah, 1998 02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:19.760 I think it comes from heaven. 1999 02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:22.720 But so do you think yes? 2000 02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:25.880 So Jim, do you think the genetic process of genetic 2001 02:02:25.960 --> 02:02:29.720 modification is just part of the fractal that is a 2002 02:02:29.880 --> 02:02:31.520 natural function of the evolution? 2003 02:02:31.680 --> 02:02:38.800 No, because because the what isn't see As a gardener, 2004 02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:43.439 I'm perfectly fine with hybridizing and perfectly fine during like 2005 02:02:43.640 --> 02:02:48.119 land race species, like that's just normal plant horticulture. Right, 2006 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:50.600 You're you're making things that are going to survive, be 2007 02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:55.039 really strong and last, especially for us like severe winters. Right, 2008 02:02:56.239 --> 02:02:59.439 So it makes total sense. But there's a part where 2009 02:02:59.439 --> 02:03:03.319 you're going into this inner or secret layer, right, right, 2010 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:06.279 like this thing that people can't see this, people that 2011 02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:08.920 cannot really know you can't really know that fully because 2012 02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:12.800 it's occulted in a way, right, And so I don't 2013 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:15.199 think that that is like a progressive thing. I think 2014 02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:18.079 that's very luciferian. As someone who is like a little 2015 02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:20.399 bit Luciferian myself, Like I'm just saying, I think it's 2016 02:03:20.479 --> 02:03:23.720 too much. I think it's like you're trying to be 2017 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:25.720 something that is not possible for us. 2018 02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:26.760 So for me, I. 2019 02:03:29.840 --> 02:03:30.920 No, I'm sorry to interrupt you. 2020 02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:35.239 It's interesting that like the two plants that they've bastardized 2021 02:03:35.279 --> 02:03:36.000 the most is like. 2022 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:40.039 Very regenerative looking wheat and papaya. 2023 02:03:39.840 --> 02:03:43.880 Like come on, and as somebody who's like yeah and 2024 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:46.840 corn right, and somebody who's done carnivore diet in the 2025 02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:50.880 past and like removed all breads like from my life 2026 02:03:50.960 --> 02:03:53.560 for a time, I don't like fully do it now, 2027 02:03:53.680 --> 02:03:55.960 but like for a time I did. And I can 2028 02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:58.479 say I think what happens to a lot of people 2029 02:03:58.760 --> 02:04:02.520 is that they're auto immune issues disappear because they're actually 2030 02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:07.199 allergic to glyfe estate not wheat, Like you're just removing 2031 02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:08.439 like all these toxins. 2032 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:10.960 It's not that actually, like wheat is the problem. 2033 02:04:10.720 --> 02:04:13.520 For you if you were to eat pure wheat. It's 2034 02:04:13.600 --> 02:04:16.920 that all the additives and chemicals on the plants that 2035 02:04:17.039 --> 02:04:20.560 we consume is the problem. And for some people, unfortunately, 2036 02:04:20.600 --> 02:04:22.239 they're more sensitive to it than others. 2037 02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:25.359 Yeah for sure, Yeah, you funny. 2038 02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:32.279 No, I just want to say, vegetables actually do better 2039 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:37.439 without much. Like flowers need tons of composts, they need mulching, 2040 02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.399 they need everything. Like you really have to tend flowers. 2041 02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:45.600 Vegetables just need composts or which we call it or manure, 2042 02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:48.119 and then you're good to go, like you're ready to rock. 2043 02:04:48.159 --> 02:04:49.960 You don't need to spray them really with anything. If 2044 02:04:49.960 --> 02:04:51.800 you know how to do it, you're fine pretty much. 2045 02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:55.279 Maybe you'll lose a couple, but it's just that's interesting 2046 02:04:55.399 --> 02:04:58.199 from what you're saying. True says like that you don't 2047 02:04:58.239 --> 02:05:00.920 have to finesse vegetables that much. They're ready, they want 2048 02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:02.720 to produce, they want to grow like willing. 2049 02:05:03.319 --> 02:05:05.840 Yeah, they're just like you could eat me if you want. 2050 02:05:05.960 --> 02:05:06.479 It's fine. 2051 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:11.079 What I was going to build upon what Jim was saying, 2052 02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:12.560 and I promise this will be the last thing about 2053 02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:17.880 ChEls is that GMO technology or how it came about 2054 02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:23.520 is through the we borrow that the I guess process 2055 02:05:23.800 --> 02:05:28.439 through virus technology. The way that viruses scan the DNA, 2056 02:05:28.840 --> 02:05:32.000 they're looking for palindromes again, going back to the palindrome 2057 02:05:32.119 --> 02:05:36.399 right when we watch the movie Arrival, how palindromes basically 2058 02:05:36.960 --> 02:05:40.880 are modeling how time can exist, you know, all at 2059 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:44.279 the same time. So viruses scan the DNA sequence for 2060 02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:48.760 palindromes and then it inserts point mutations, either takes away 2061 02:05:49.039 --> 02:05:52.359 or insert its own or whatever. And so that I 2062 02:05:52.399 --> 02:05:56.039 guess technology of how it works or how it behaves 2063 02:05:56.479 --> 02:06:01.000 is exactly the basis of how we understood to do GMO. 2064 02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:04.079 So we learned that from viruses. So when people say 2065 02:06:04.159 --> 02:06:06.560 viruses aren't real, then where do we get the GMO 2066 02:06:06.680 --> 02:06:13.119 technology from? Because that's that's that's how we that's how 2067 02:06:13.199 --> 02:06:15.119 we developed GMO technology. 2068 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:20.920 And so I gotta that was the whole thing. 2069 02:06:21.079 --> 02:06:24.359 Did you are you guys fans of the alien franchise, 2070 02:06:24.479 --> 02:06:31.520 like Covenant Promethea, when they went and Alien Covenant to 2071 02:06:31.640 --> 02:06:34.279 that new planet, like they were looking for wheat, they 2072 02:06:34.359 --> 02:06:39.119 were looking for water, and they had manufactured like this 2073 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:41.880 virus that would shoot up out of the wheat and 2074 02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:44.279 it would like go in your fucking ear and implant 2075 02:06:44.359 --> 02:06:46.760 you with like whatever the thing is. But like that's 2076 02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:49.640 the essentially what they're doing is they're taking like our 2077 02:06:49.760 --> 02:06:54.159 basic life force of like wheat water there, and they're 2078 02:06:54.359 --> 02:06:55.079 injecting it. 2079 02:06:55.159 --> 02:06:55.960 With weird stuff. 2080 02:06:56.399 --> 02:06:59.840 And I actually just watched this documentary and they said, 2081 02:06:59.840 --> 02:07:03.520 if you eat pasta in Italy, you could go for 2082 02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:08.640 like a fucking jog afterwards. Experience you don't feel bogged down, 2083 02:07:08.720 --> 02:07:10.560 you don't feel sluggish, you don't feel tired. 2084 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:14.880 And it's because they don't fortify or enrich their wheat products. 2085 02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:16.000 It's just wheat. 2086 02:07:17.239 --> 02:07:20.000 So if you can get there is a brand, I 2087 02:07:20.119 --> 02:07:23.239 get it sometimes at my local grocery store. But if 2088 02:07:23.239 --> 02:07:27.640 you can get imported pastas from Italy, they are way 2089 02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:31.720 the fuck better for you than getting like Berea or 2090 02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:33.479 whatever that fucking brand is that. 2091 02:07:33.680 --> 02:07:35.720 They have at Walmart. Like, try to stay away from 2092 02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:36.079 that shit. 2093 02:07:36.600 --> 02:07:40.720 But I am only saying this because I love spaghetti, Like, 2094 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:44.319 please do not fuck with my carbs, like I love carbs, 2095 02:07:44.920 --> 02:07:47.840 don't fuck with my carbs. There are brands you can 2096 02:07:47.880 --> 02:07:51.000 get that are not fortified or enriched, that are organic 2097 02:07:51.960 --> 02:07:53.199 imported from Italy. 2098 02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:55.479 And it does make a difference just. 2099 02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:58.960 Saying I say for sure. When I was there, I mean, 2100 02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:02.000 all again, obviously you're in Italy. There was a lot 2101 02:08:02.079 --> 02:08:05.279 of pasta and I was like, oh, man, like I 2102 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:07.000 don't want to be you know, I'm on vacation be 2103 02:08:07.079 --> 02:08:09.119 dragged down at all. And you know I heard the 2104 02:08:09.159 --> 02:08:11.039 same thing that you had said and I experienced it. 2105 02:08:11.119 --> 02:08:13.640 I mean I would eat a big plate, you know, 2106 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:16.279 I'd have lasagna for lunch and I was on the 2107 02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:20.000 go still, you know, walking around Rome like I feel full, 2108 02:08:20.079 --> 02:08:21.439 but I'm that fucking stuff. 2109 02:08:21.239 --> 02:08:23.520 You'll lose weight there? It was all No, I'm. 2110 02:08:23.439 --> 02:08:24.680 Almost positive I did. 2111 02:08:26.159 --> 02:08:28.880 For the ten days much carbs and still be fine. 2112 02:08:29.319 --> 02:08:31.039 Do you think that has to do with the beer 2113 02:08:31.079 --> 02:08:37.960 as well? In America? Oh but this is so many things, guys, 2114 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:39.039 A whole other episode. 2115 02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:43.079 Right. Germany has purity laws and you know, whereas in 2116 02:08:43.159 --> 02:08:45.000 America it's like food science. 2117 02:08:45.520 --> 02:08:48.159 You know, when when Nick brought on the NNGE guy, 2118 02:08:48.279 --> 02:08:50.479 he was talking and Lisa was on I can't I 2119 02:08:50.520 --> 02:08:52.279 can't remember girls was on. I know it was Nick 2120 02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:57.720 and Lisa for sure, shoes, Yeah, he we were. He 2121 02:08:57.840 --> 02:09:02.520 was talking about something like plants that contain a specific substance. 2122 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:05.479 I'm sorry, so I totally forgot now, but I remember 2123 02:09:05.560 --> 02:09:08.119 thinking myself the substance he's talking about hops also. 2124 02:09:08.079 --> 02:09:14.319 Contains Oh is it the cannabinoids? Yes, yes, yes, yes, 2125 02:09:14.560 --> 02:09:18.079 thank you so much. I'm so sorry. Yeah, hops is 2126 02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.119 in the cannabinoid family for sure. Yes, yes, yep. 2127 02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:25.720 And so it's really interesting that they would obviously if 2128 02:09:25.760 --> 02:09:28.560 you tamper with the wheat. And it's not just it's 2129 02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:31.720 not just like beer, it's also soy sauce. I guess 2130 02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:35.239 someone who doesn't eat any gluten, I know that you 2131 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:37.880 have to carry your tomorrow with you basically if you're 2132 02:09:37.920 --> 02:09:38.760 gonna eat anything. 2133 02:09:39.239 --> 02:09:43.039 One of those people that tapped into the whole phytoestrogen 2134 02:09:43.439 --> 02:09:46.840 thing because of soy and cads. 2135 02:09:47.159 --> 02:09:54.520 Yes, Japan, Yes, they also trying to reclaim aluminum out 2136 02:09:54.520 --> 02:09:55.920 of the ground. They can come out of the soy 2137 02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:58.119 can come out of the ground with upwards of twenty 2138 02:09:58.159 --> 02:10:03.119 two percent aluminum with and it's makeup. That's why you 2139 02:10:03.239 --> 02:10:06.119 have to ferment it. That's why the fermentation process of 2140 02:10:06.199 --> 02:10:07.319 soy is so essential. 2141 02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:09.439 Yeah, that's interesting. 2142 02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:11.439 Yeah, that's a great point, Robbie. 2143 02:10:12.760 --> 02:10:17.560 With my g I man, but you have to eat, yeah, 2144 02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:23.319 you can't eat it like a mom they or yeah, 2145 02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:28.800 yeah you used to as off. 2146 02:10:31.399 --> 02:10:35.960 Oh wow, you have to eat it. 2147 02:10:36.159 --> 02:10:38.720 You have to process. It has to be a secondary 2148 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:41.600 process because tofu is just the pressing, the cold pressing 2149 02:10:42.279 --> 02:10:44.720 right of the beans. My grandparents used. 2150 02:10:44.600 --> 02:10:44.920 To make it. 2151 02:10:47.439 --> 02:10:50.039 Yeah, so basically you have to you have to cook it. 2152 02:10:50.439 --> 02:10:52.279 Plus I don't like you don't have to cook it, 2153 02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:55.079 but you have to apply some kind of fermentation or 2154 02:10:56.439 --> 02:10:59.039 or or you eat it with like dropping these people 2155 02:10:59.119 --> 02:11:01.399 eat it with tons of picks ginger, So that's obviously 2156 02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:03.319 gonna have like a carmentative effect. 2157 02:11:03.600 --> 02:11:05.600 Ferments exactly. 2158 02:11:05.840 --> 02:11:09.600 So that's why I love. It's delicious. To me, I 2159 02:11:09.720 --> 02:11:12.920 love it. I feel like probiotics do the body good. 2160 02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:14.279 I haven't had that. 2161 02:11:15.680 --> 02:11:19.960 It's good stuff. Do you like vinegar, well, you like 2162 02:11:20.039 --> 02:11:22.000 like apple cider vinegar or anything like that. 2163 02:11:22.279 --> 02:11:22.479 Yes. 2164 02:11:22.760 --> 02:11:27.000 So when when Lazarus was raised from the dead, they 2165 02:11:27.079 --> 02:11:30.479 gave him a sponge with a vinegar drink, and from 2166 02:11:30.840 --> 02:11:34.319 the research I've done, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's kombacha. 2167 02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:38.720 It has to be right because it's like the fermented vinegar. 2168 02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:42.880 Yeah, h wasn't that what they gave Jesus on the cross? 2169 02:11:43.560 --> 02:11:47.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, roll or something like that I think 2170 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:50.079 is what they called it. But yeah, it was, but 2171 02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:53.159 it was a healing kind of a healing drink. 2172 02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:54.000 Drink. 2173 02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:54.720 Yeah. 2174 02:11:55.239 --> 02:11:59.000 See if Jesus drank kimbcha, everything should be able to 2175 02:11:59.039 --> 02:11:59.920 get on boord with it. 2176 02:12:03.840 --> 02:12:07.039 There's something interesting, Julia is that fermented food is actually 2177 02:12:07.079 --> 02:12:12.000 considered mosic food, meaning like almost sinful food, because it 2178 02:12:12.239 --> 02:12:15.520 actually brings you down to earth. It's not sinful per se, 2179 02:12:15.600 --> 02:12:17.319 but that's one interpretation of Thomas. 2180 02:12:17.479 --> 02:12:17.720 It can. 2181 02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:20.760 It weighs you down. It makes you weightier. That's more 2182 02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:23.600 of a earthier Yeah, earthier. That's a perfect though. 2183 02:12:25.199 --> 02:12:25.920 It makes you more. 2184 02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:33.119 I'm from the South, so pickled pigs, feet, pickled eggs, pickles, 2185 02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:36.479 anything fermented, I'm getting down with that. 2186 02:12:36.640 --> 02:12:37.800 She I don't know. 2187 02:12:38.119 --> 02:12:41.239 My Instagram feet is a little middle aged women touting 2188 02:12:41.319 --> 02:12:43.600 the benefits of fermented food to mimical. 2189 02:12:46.960 --> 02:12:51.159 All in moderation, right, yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2190 02:12:51.560 --> 02:12:56.199 I agree. I agree. Look what you've done today, Look 2191 02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:56.439 at this. 2192 02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:04.359 Does That was awesome, Thank you very much, Robbie. Really 2193 02:13:04.439 --> 02:13:05.800 everybody else that. 2194 02:13:05.920 --> 02:13:09.119 Was enjoyed the group of everybody chiming in and all 2195 02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:14.920 the different perspectives a modern day gymnasium of. 2196 02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:21.039 H thank you. Uh before we let you plug your 2197 02:13:21.039 --> 02:13:23.239 stuff again, we'll have Teresa. Would you like to say 2198 02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:24.720 anything as we wrap this up? You want to plug 2199 02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:26.720 your show? I know you haven't done much recently, but. 2200 02:13:28.199 --> 02:13:30.880 I've been busy doing the Silly Pops and stuff. But yeah, 2201 02:13:31.079 --> 02:13:33.159 I do have the Spiritual Gangsters. If people want to 2202 02:13:33.199 --> 02:13:35.319 go listen to old episodes, there's they're. 2203 02:13:35.159 --> 02:13:36.960 Still getting listened, so like that's cool. 2204 02:13:37.119 --> 02:13:41.119 Thanks for checking it out, and yeah, please check out 2205 02:13:41.239 --> 02:13:45.359 Silly Pops on my Instagram and website whatever. 2206 02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:47.800 They can always DM me about it. And yeah, thank 2207 02:13:47.800 --> 02:13:48.239 you so much. 2208 02:13:48.319 --> 02:13:48.560 Robbie. 2209 02:13:48.560 --> 02:13:51.119 It was like a blast is always so always I 2210 02:13:51.279 --> 02:13:52.439 enjoy hanging out for sure. 2211 02:13:55.239 --> 02:13:58.359 Thank you, Gardinal, and thank you to the whole group. 2212 02:13:58.399 --> 02:14:00.960 It was amazing, like a really fun roundtable, like a 2213 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.800 really great way to sort of like before Robbie goes 2214 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:04.239 on tour. 2215 02:14:04.520 --> 02:14:07.159 Yeah, really fun way to end, Like I don't know, 2216 02:14:07.680 --> 02:14:08.960 you can see my bag right there. 2217 02:14:08.960 --> 02:14:11.720 It's Pat Hilarium. I'm out the door in three days. 2218 02:14:12.079 --> 02:14:13.920 So I was trying to get a date from him 2219 02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:15.319 in July and he's like, I do, I could be 2220 02:14:15.359 --> 02:14:15.920 home tooke. 2221 02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:22.039 A like fum almost September, so yeah, but. 2222 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.800 I will take the opportunity to plug at this end 2223 02:14:24.920 --> 02:14:27.239 juncture and say that, Yeah, you can definitely listen to 2224 02:14:27.279 --> 02:14:30.479 my throat show. Threshold Saints Alex Roberta will be my 2225 02:14:30.560 --> 02:14:33.840 next episode drop and it actually turned out really well, 2226 02:14:34.239 --> 02:14:36.159 I you know, so I'm I'm really proud of it, 2227 02:14:36.199 --> 02:14:37.680 and there will be a part two to that and 2228 02:14:37.760 --> 02:14:42.560 then obviously welcome to Hapaboria. So it's this like the 2229 02:14:42.640 --> 02:14:45.319 Gonzo Gnostics series that I've been working on on on 2230 02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:47.720 X and we do live and we talked about Cocola 2231 02:14:47.800 --> 02:14:53.399 and Tontra and speculative narcissism and metafiction. So we're on 2232 02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:56.880 either Wave part one, so that'll be a three part 2233 02:14:57.039 --> 02:14:59.359 mini series within a series. So I'm doing it very 2234 02:14:59.439 --> 02:15:02.800 Cabala's very like, uh you know, like how I like, 2235 02:15:02.920 --> 02:15:06.479 I'm taking a cue from Nick. So definitely checked out 2236 02:15:06.560 --> 02:15:09.199 if you're interested. Live every Friday night on X and 2237 02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:12.439 uh right before before JJS show, before JJ and Nick 2238 02:15:12.479 --> 02:15:14.439 do Friday, so don't worry about that. But yeah, you 2239 02:15:14.520 --> 02:15:17.000 can watch us and then jump on with them. So 2240 02:15:17.239 --> 02:15:19.239 thank you so much, Chyt, thank you. 2241 02:15:19.319 --> 02:15:21.720 I was I was gonna plug anyway. For people who 2242 02:15:21.800 --> 02:15:24.239 are who do do that, I do highly suggest to 2243 02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:27.279 go check out his spaces. I've jumped in there numerous 2244 02:15:27.359 --> 02:15:30.119 times a few times, and I'll listen to it like 2245 02:15:30.119 --> 02:15:32.279 why I'm editing or doing stuff, and they get into 2246 02:15:32.359 --> 02:15:35.359 some pretty deep topics. So I definitely suggest to go 2247 02:15:36.239 --> 02:15:39.079 check it out. I think it's very well. So thank 2248 02:15:39.119 --> 02:15:43.119 you Jan, thank you Bos of course. Uh, Julia, would 2249 02:15:43.159 --> 02:15:46.039 you like to, uh, you know, let everybody know where 2250 02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:46.920 they can find you amazingly? 2251 02:15:47.920 --> 02:15:51.439 Yeah, yeah, So I'm obviously Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you 2252 02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:53.520 listen to podcasts. I'm just gonna go ahead and throw 2253 02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:56.319 my email out right now because I always say. 2254 02:15:56.199 --> 02:15:57.239 Email me, email me. 2255 02:15:57.800 --> 02:16:02.840 My email is ghost dot Peach at outlook dot com. 2256 02:16:03.159 --> 02:16:04.920 If you want to work with me, please hit me 2257 02:16:05.039 --> 02:16:08.760 up at that email. I'm working on a sleep paralysis 2258 02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:13.479 mini series and I actually have another topic that I 2259 02:16:13.600 --> 02:16:15.319 kind of want to bring on the Occult Rejects when 2260 02:16:15.359 --> 02:16:18.119 it's ready. I just got to finish the presentation about 2261 02:16:18.159 --> 02:16:21.039 a fucking whack ass serial killer I never heard of 2262 02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:24.399 before that has links to all the fucking three Letters, 2263 02:16:24.479 --> 02:16:29.640 and I mean it is just batshit crazy. But anyways, 2264 02:16:29.640 --> 02:16:32.040 working on a lot of fun stuff for Cosmic Peach podcasts. 2265 02:16:32.040 --> 02:16:33.959 If you want to work with me, gost dot Peach 2266 02:16:34.120 --> 02:16:37.719 at outlook dot com. Thanks for having me, Robbie, You're awesome, Teresa, 2267 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:42.600 love you, Jen always insightful, Lisa gorgeous, smart, Wish I 2268 02:16:42.840 --> 02:16:43.479 was more like you. 2269 02:16:45.280 --> 02:16:47.920 Yes, no, Julia, thank you so much for coming on. 2270 02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:50.360 I really appreciate it. And for the you know, the listeners, 2271 02:16:50.639 --> 02:16:53.040 go I go check out the series that she's doing. 2272 02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:56.959 You know, uh, you know, we we covered sleep paralysis. Uh, 2273 02:16:57.239 --> 02:16:59.440 it did very well. People seem to really like it. 2274 02:16:59.559 --> 02:17:02.000 So I suggest those people to go check out this 2275 02:17:02.040 --> 02:17:03.520 series that she's putting out. You know, it's going to 2276 02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:06.559 be a banger, she's covering it. Thank you so much, Julia, 2277 02:17:07.120 --> 02:17:10.799 and then Lisa, your cult rejected man scientist, what is 2278 02:17:10.879 --> 02:17:11.120 going on? 2279 02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:14.680 Thank you so much, so much for having me this 2280 02:17:15.319 --> 02:17:17.879 late morning. For me, so it was like brunch and 2281 02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:25.559 having my coffee. Cult research occult rejects, And this honestly 2282 02:17:25.760 --> 02:17:28.760 genuinely felt like we were around the table, Robbie, and 2283 02:17:28.920 --> 02:17:31.040 we were and you were telling us a story and 2284 02:17:31.280 --> 02:17:34.639 we're all listening and chiming in, and it definitely it 2285 02:17:34.719 --> 02:17:38.559 didn't feel like we were separated geographically at all, So 2286 02:17:38.719 --> 02:17:42.479 I genuinely thank you for the invitation, Jen, Teresa, Julia, 2287 02:17:43.319 --> 02:17:48.719 Robbie Nick. This was an amazing discussion and I'm very 2288 02:17:48.840 --> 02:17:50.680 grateful to have been a part of it. Thank you 2289 02:17:50.799 --> 02:17:52.600 so much. And the only thing I want to plug 2290 02:17:52.760 --> 02:17:55.719 is a cult research institute dot org checks out. 2291 02:17:57.120 --> 02:17:59.040 Thank you very much, Lisa. I appreciate you coming on 2292 02:17:59.159 --> 02:18:03.760 and always you know put and what you got to say. Uh, Robbie, 2293 02:18:03.920 --> 02:18:06.159 please let everybody know where they could find all your 2294 02:18:06.200 --> 02:18:06.840 amazing stuff. 2295 02:18:07.760 --> 02:18:10.000 Yeah, and I want to thank everybody for showing up. 2296 02:18:10.600 --> 02:18:12.559 I was a little anxious at first when I saw 2297 02:18:12.600 --> 02:18:14.520 how many people might be here, but I think it 2298 02:18:14.840 --> 02:18:18.920 like flowed so well and just getting you know, everybody, 2299 02:18:19.159 --> 02:18:21.760 you know, got you guys all know what you're talking about, 2300 02:18:22.200 --> 02:18:24.959 and it's just great coming together and the meeting of 2301 02:18:25.079 --> 02:18:27.959 minds and kind of seeing how it all kind of 2302 02:18:28.040 --> 02:18:32.120 just blossoms and blooms. But yeah, I'm our Marx or 2303 02:18:32.200 --> 02:18:35.479 Robbie Marx. If you want to check out my other stuff, 2304 02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:40.040 I have my website, my Etsy, my podcast, my Patreon, 2305 02:18:40.440 --> 02:18:43.239 all my social media. You can go and find me 2306 02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:46.639 at my link tree, which is link tree. R M 2307 02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:49.920 A r X and that'll pull up everything. So yeah, 2308 02:18:49.959 --> 02:18:51.680 thanks Nick, Oh, thank you Bro. 2309 02:18:51.879 --> 02:18:54.120 I really appreciate your work. You help me keep up. 2310 02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:55.959 You helped me keep putting out work I can be 2311 02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:59.879 proud of. So thank you. So nice again, all of you. 2312 02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:02.600 It was an amazing chat I again. We talked about 2313 02:19:02.639 --> 02:19:04.840 so many things and I really loved it. That's what 2314 02:19:05.079 --> 02:19:07.200 I hope to see all the people do, is what 2315 02:19:07.319 --> 02:19:10.600 we do here, you know, just amazing stuff. We made 2316 02:19:10.639 --> 02:19:13.760 magic today, So in the next one, until the next one, 2317 02:19:13.840 --> 02:19:15.479 everybody be well later.