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Speaker 1: I grew up in a shop, so I grew up

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working on cars.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I was so happy to see the art that I

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thought was dying coming back to life by having builders

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actually you know, using all the metal working equipment and

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building stuff from scratch again, not just customizers buying stuff

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and bolting it off right, but actually hand fabricating items

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and showing art and restoring cars or bikes. It is

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art and you can take as much liberty as you

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want with it, but you got to have style, and

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you got to I always go back and do this analogy.

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I grew up in the air restoring Dalla hayes that

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had Fegoni flashy coach work, very flamboyant, and rebuilding all

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the chrome on them because they've ground against the one

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foot high curve herbs and re rolling all the fender

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panels and all that. And the guys that I learned

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from when I learned, they were in their seventies to eighties.

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They taught me how to lead. They taught me how

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to run a plenishing hammer and English wheel, a you know,

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a deep throat shrinker, and how to fabricate parts. And

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I was like, you know, is this going to be

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a dying art. Well, the art has really been taking

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off and seeing you guys customize the bikes, and Jesse

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James showing how to do it and all the early adopters,

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and then Boyd when he got his show out. Although

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I thought Boyd trying to build a car in a week,

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you know, like overhauling in that is not reality.

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Speaker 2: It's a tricky deal, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's a tricky deal to build something and actually go

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out and drive it, nut and bolt it. And I

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own three of Boyd's cars currently, all of them. I

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took a part redid them together. Yeah, made sure that

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all the nuts and bolts are tight and everything lined up.

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And that was just because first one came out of

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the oven, I think a little too soon, and I

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was like, all right, the next one's we're going to

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actually go get there right. But the art is what

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I go after, and a car has to have the

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right proportions and be built the right way. And at

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our auctions, you know, we're about selling all types of cars,

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resto mods, customs, but we take the same look at

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a car, whether we're selling a numbers matching car, because

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we look at who put it together, How is it

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put together? What all the components and was it done

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in a workmanship type manners? Anybody can go and buy

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a hellfin engine, stick it in something and you're going, yeah,

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those brakes and rear end are just gonna instantly explode.

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Everything needs to be tied together. Everything needs to be

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thought out. When you do a build, what do you

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visualize it looking like? And how are you going to

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use it and drive it? And that's our job as

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an auction company. When somebody says they're interested in something,

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first thing I ask him is what do you can

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use it for? You know, I'm gonna do this with Yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Got the wrong Yeah you're not drag racing this thing, right?

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Speaker 1: Or I just love the way a Hemi Koda looks,

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and I love hemikud as. I collect them, but you

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know some guy will buy one and drive it. Go.

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This thing doesn't steer or stop for damn right, I'll

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drive it around the block. You know, it drives exactly

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the way it did night.

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Speaker 2: That's right. It's doing exactly what it did from day one.

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Speaker 1: From day one. That's why you may want to rest them.

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Ad if you really want to go out and drive it.

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Speaker 2: You know what It's funny that you say that too,

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because I got into when I got into car, you

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know what I do for a living, right, We've known

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each other a long time, and I'm with you with

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the art side of things. I'm an artist over a

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bike builder, a car builder or anything. It's art forward

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for me, and I've been fortunate to be able to

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work on some pretty amazing projects through the years. But

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when I got into cars, and it wasn't I was

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not always into cars. I really got into them probably

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back in twenty eleven or twelve. I started buying cars,

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and I was buying them as a ridge as possible,

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so you know, I'm a customizer. But I fell in

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love with history in the way of cars. And the

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only way to really experience history, at least this has

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been my experience, is to drive an old car, right,

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because the way it was in thirty seven and thirty

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six and forty one, you see what I mean. And

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so however it smelled, and however drive and however it

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didn't stop right, and however it barely went. Is what

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you got is what that man who drove that car

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maybe a salesman's coup back in you know, thirty six

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experienced on a daily basis, and that's what I fell

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in love with. Of course, the form. I've had a

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lot of rare Hudsons. I had a thirty one boattail roadster.

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art deco. And I had a thirty six convertible, and

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all these. I got into Hudsons like heavily. I'm like that.

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out of my mind and I hunt cars and so

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but I love I love originality. I really love originality

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because you experience history that way. And when I designed

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this car, I didn't want to take too much away

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from its original history. I wanted to respect the original design.

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And that's why when you talk about Dela Hayes such

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an inspiration, those cars are the most magnificent, flowing robes,

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beautiful cars you've ever seen. And so I just took

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a little inspiration from the Dela Hayes and the Bugattis

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and that Zephyr has everything you need anyway, except for

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a few things. And I feel like those fenders should

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always came back and I know that wouldnt have been

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practical for production, but esthetically, I thought, man, this is

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a nice area to spend some time and get this

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thing to flow out. And then really the speed fin

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and I modernized it. Inside it's got air ride, but

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esthetically we did the suicide doors to make the fenders work.

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But esthetically that car is almost stock. I mean it's

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got to stock end. We souped up the carbs. I

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did the Zephyr scripted heads. I'm a purist when it

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comes to cars, so it was almost I almost found

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a little difficult doing anything to the car, except for

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the fact that I was given an opportunity to put

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my twist on it for the first time. And after

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looking at these cars for so many years, these are

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the things that I decided should be done to it.

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And even that speed fit in the back. You see

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how simple that thing is, and it just it gives

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it so much speed. We use the original frame, we

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channeled it out, we lowered it. It's on air ride,

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but it's not laying on the ground. I don't that's

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not I like it to look like a car, not

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like you know whatever. It's just for my eye. I

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want to see a little bit more tire. I like

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it low Those cars look like they're waiting for a

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flood from the factory because roads were not so great

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back in the day, you know, So I think we

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lowered it just the right amount. The Dunkel blow, which

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is the dark blue paint, to me, is the best.

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black is just black. And we went with that kind

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of a mahogany whiskey what's the word I'm looking for

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with a with a leather brown leather interior. So that combination, yeah, conyac. Yeah,

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my wife's saying konyak because she picked the interior and

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uh and so you know, we really wanted to just

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pay homage to the past and kind of bring it

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up to speed a little bit. You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly a piece of art. I appreciate that

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type of work. I love cars that somebody took the

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eye to look at. How does it flow? And you know,

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buying a car is a passion, and people that love

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this hobby do it because the passion, that camaraderie, and

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it is rolling art. Selling these cars. Not all of

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them are rolling art, yours is some are more function

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over form versus form over function.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, and you're right. I mean the motor.

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I didn't hop up the motor. You look in that car.

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we got rid of, like a lot of the wires

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that you don't want to see. But you look down

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in there and you got that twelve cylinder motor sitting

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in there on the original motor mounts. And I really

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love that about the car. It didn't need that much.

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People take, They french it all out, They get rid

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of the handles, they get rid of all the trim,

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They chop the roof, which doesn't need to be chopped

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it really and they over chopped so it looks like

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a pancake. You know. It looks like someone dropped it

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on upside down. It really does. And these guys think

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it looks good, and I think you ruin the car.

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That's my feeling. I mean, the original design of that

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car is one of the best coops of the thirties.

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So in fairness to my design, again, I had to

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pay respect to the to the original designers, which I

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believe is Grigory, right, I mean that's the original designer,

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is Grigory. I think that's how you say his name.

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cars based on this Grigory rating, which is on one

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hundred point system. I've had a couple like one hundred

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point cars in the past, so you know, and that's

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the nuances with where the stickers go and everything like that.

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I didn't pay as much attention to that as making

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sure those fenders were just right, the way they came

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back into the rear fenders and the way the suicide

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doors open up. I love the suicide doors, and I

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don't think there's another Zephyr out there with suicide doors

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like that, because when you open them up, you get

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to see the interior from the front perspective of the car,

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so you get that leather and everything else. And I

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just I've always loved suicide doors, even on some original

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cars from thirty six. I think at thirty six Ford

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has suicide doors. There's a couple other ones out there,

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but I just took my years of experience of things

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I love, and I go to all the concords. I

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judge at the Concord. So I've seen some of the

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most spectacular cars you can ever imagine. So for the

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past ten years, I've been seeing all these cars, and

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I finally got a chance to build kind of what

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I would consider my dream car, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and this is it come to life.

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Speaker 2: This is yes, this is the first stage. I think

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I want to build some more. I got some different

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ideas for some different cars. But yeah, I mean I

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just think it's good. And you know, when I look

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at it, it's like my body of work. It's cars

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and bikes, but it's just design. It's just good design,

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good flowing lines, good proportions, and good fabrication. Because I've

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seen it all, you'd be surprised. I've seen some bike

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builders where I go, Wow, it's a nice bike, and

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you get on top of it and you're like, oh

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my gosh, who did these welds? You know, like chicken,

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you know, scratch. So the fit and finish for me

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has always been extremely important. I'm like mental about how

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it looks and how it's done. And I think with

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this car, we I think we hit it out of

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the park with this one. I really, you know, the

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form of this car, and I seen it on the

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cover of the magazine that you guys put out, and

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it just, Man, it's art. It's art. It's moving when

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it's sitting still. And that's pretty much everything I do

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is along those lines, the flow, in the motion it

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has when it's just sitting there. It's just critically important

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to me, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you said you started really buying cars and

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getting into two thousand and ten.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Prior to that, you were strictly just into building the

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bikes with your dad pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like old cars were just old cars,

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you know. I mean I had a I had cars.

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I had like a I had a Superformance Cobra, which

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was fun, really nice, had a lot of fun with that.

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never would have sold. I sold it too soon, one

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of those heartbreakers that got away. Now those cars are

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like four hundred thousand, you know, and I bought it

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brand new with no stripes, and it was a really

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cool car. So I liked cars, but I just didn't

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understand old cars like in the thirties. And I think

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it was lights out for me. Man, I love art deco.

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a muscle guy. Can I appreciate him, Yes, And I've

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had a couple of matter of fact, I sold that

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sixty seven Super Snake in two thousand and seven in Arizona.

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That was the last time I think I saw you,

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and so I appreciated that.

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Speaker 1: I believe he what did he sell? He was?

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Speaker 2: Oh? He no, he had a he had a sixty

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Corvette convertible with a matching motorcycle. And we both sold

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our fastbacks, and yeah, and he was. He wasn't real happy.

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But we don't have to get into that. He always

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wants more and he always wants to sell cars for

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more than I get for mine, you know. But it

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was a great experience coming down there, and I got

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to tell you the reason I went with you, other

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than our relationship in history, because obviously I could sell

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this place at other auctions. You guys do it the best.

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You guys do it the biggest, and you've put you've

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put it in a place. I feel like you're like

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the Wwe of the auction world. And I mean that

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with all respect because it's a it's a it's a

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show that people want to be a part of. It's exciting,

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it's living. And these other auction houses are great, but

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they're but they don't do what you do. And I

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and I feel like when it was time I say,

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we got to go to Barrett Jackson with this thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, thank you. And Palm Beach has got

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its own flavor down there. A ton of money has

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come into the area, but a ton of car people.

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South Florida is on fire for the just the amount

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of supercars and car shows we're down there, and it's

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a car show or two every weekend day where we're

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actually just driving around going to different car, car shows,

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supercar shows. People love cars down in South Florida. So

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it's got a real follow up to it, much more

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than Los Angeles nowadays. Really really South Florida.

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Speaker 2: It's a different culture, right. I feel like those supercars

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are big. I feel like Los Angeles is a little

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bit more of a mixed bag, and it's a lot

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of like the thirties chopped cars and the hot rods

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and the fifty one merks and things of that nature.

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Right Is that is that right?

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Speaker 1: It's it's across the board. Yeah, it's you know, being

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able to take the cars out and use them and

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people appreciate them. And the cars and coffee started in

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southern California, so he can't take anything away from him,

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but the camaraderie that I feel down in Florida and

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everybody is just super psyched when you're driving a cool

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car out and seeing it when it's Valet Park and

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everybody around it. And I sold a car to a

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customer and I sought at a restaurant, so I went over.

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I was like, that's got to be the car, and

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the owner came up and we started talking king and

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you know, he told me what he likes and got

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a great bunch of cars, a lot of supercars, and

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he ended up buying Sammy Hagar's law Ferrari because he

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just loved the colors and the combination of the car.

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But these things are organic by just going out and

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being with the car people. And that's what we try

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to bring into the auctions, and that is that it's

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not just an auction, it's a gathering of people that

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love cars. The passion and the amount of buyers to

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cars comes because the cars are going up for sale

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and you're the last person with your hand in the air.

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It's your car. It's not there for an appraisal. It

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is there to find a new home and another passionate

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person to care for it till it cycles back through.

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Speaker 2: Right, We're just We're just here. We're just We're just

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curators of these things for a short period of time

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and then they move on. You know, we're just stewarts,

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right we are.

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Speaker 1: I collect cars myself and restore cars and care form

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very much because I love the history and I love,

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you know, doing the research on we're doing to I

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mean a Bugatti right now. I just bought back one

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of my Dlahy's that I restored when I was twenty

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years old, So I can't wait to see what it

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looks like forty five years later. Painted it in lacker

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and in the pictures that looks gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Still is it still an the original? Because I know

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those Dela Hayes go through some Delahayes, they go through

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years of changes and they'll they'll redo the trim different.

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You know, I've seen a lot of these cars where

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the original car doesn't look like the car today because

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it goes through different hands. So is it still your work?

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On that car or as someone.

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Speaker 1: Is exactly the way it was done, and the gentleman

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I bought it back from I told him after I

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bought it. You know, I got a picture of that

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when my dad body went to buy a fifty three

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Durham limousine and it was sitting on the lot, and

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I have the picture of it on the lot in

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the early sixties. I have a ton of pictures growing

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up with the car. And then I restored it, went

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between that when I was nineteen and twenty years old,

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and then we sold it, and then I went and got

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another Dallahya Figoni flashy and restored it. As I started

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to say, we were now restoring a Type fifty seven

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Bugatti in our shop here and a thirty four Cadillac

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that was my parents' first collector car.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And my parents drove it from Michigan to Arizona. My

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mom drove the car.

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Speaker 2: That's a great year. Thirty four and thirty five are

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great years for cadigc sumers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a lot of Art deco touches to it,

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one hundred and fifty four inch wheelbase. It's a big

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two door coup.

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Speaker 2: Really, is that what it is. Yeah, I was going

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to ask you that those cars are awesome. They're so

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big for a coop.

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Speaker 1: Know, yes, And pictures of me in the back seat

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in the little jump seat in the back when I

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was a kid. So going down memory lane restoring the

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car to take it to Pebble eventually, and the Bugatti's

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going to go to Pebble this year. I love that

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era of cars because I grew up with them with

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my dad and Tom Barrett. But I also love all

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the modern cars nowadays, so my collection is a little

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bit diverse and all sorts of different cars. I love

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the cars they're popping out today.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Will be making these kind of super fast cars. When

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I grew up in high school, I didn't think that

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this era would ever come because I graduated high school

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in seventy seven, okay, and you know seventy four to

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seventy seven were not great years now.

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Speaker 2: No, pretty pretty horrible actually after that muscle car stretch, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, we hadn't figured out all the purbos and

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fuel injection and everything else we could get performance. So

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I grew up collecting and driving old muscle cars, and

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you know, they were just used cars back in the day,

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but had a lot of fun doing it. So my

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passions sort of broad. And the main thing I love

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is when somebody has the passion and the art. And

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that's why I have gravitated to everybody that has had

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TV shows that show people how to do this, what

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it's a like, what's the passion behind it and taking

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something that is a you know, a lot of work

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and turning into something that's a piece of art, and

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that's the goal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know I think about that. So in

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the capacity of television. I look at some of these cars,

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like the one I'm getting ready to sell, but even

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like Boyd's cars and stuff. I mean, that stuff becomes

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exponentially more valuable over time just because of the providence

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and because they have some kind of you know, history

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with the builder. I mean, I mean, look at all

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the Barriss cars. These cars are like, you know crazy.

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Even motorcycles, you know, like even some of Indian Larry's

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motorcycles sold pretty good for the level of notoriety that

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he had. Unfortunately, people have to be gone a lot

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of times for that stuff to really go crazy, but

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it always gets there. I mean Von Dutch and you know,

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I look at all these guys as my predecessors. I

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look at all their stuff and I just think, Wow,

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these guys really they really made a mark, even like

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Ed Roth, you know, with his mailbox, trike and all

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that stuff. All that stuff is a big inspiration to me.

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And I look at you know, I'm fifty now, so

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I've been doing this like twenty five years of television,

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and I look at my body of work differently than

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I did when I was a young guy just making stuff.

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You know, I look back at it. I've tried to

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get back quite a few of my bikes through the years.

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I've gotten some of them back. I've been able to

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keep some of them. So I have a pretty large

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collection of my bikes from the show. But when I

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look at my body of work, it's very exclusive. I

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don't build anything past for large corporations or big charities there.

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I don't really build for individuals. I don't floor plan stuff.

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It's commission only. So this car is part of a

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body of work that's pretty exclusive. There's not a lot

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of it out there. And the stuff that's out there

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is globally recognized, you know, and we you know, Discovery

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for all those years really afforded us a global audience

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of two hundred countries and territories and ninety languages, and

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that's pretty remarkable for it from upstate New York guys

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who really when when the show started, I didn't even

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like my picture take it, you know, So what an

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amazing American you know, dream story for for just some

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guys up in upstate New York. You know, the show

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hit at just the right time. And even though there

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was all the chaos and the and the family arguments,

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which really made the show unique, we had something to

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show for it. You know. We built these great works

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of art, and we did it as a team, and

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we didn't know He's do it perfect, but we certainly

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we struck a chord with people. And I think that

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in the long run, there's a lot of staying power

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for us. Even now, the nostalgia for the shows off

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the charts, because all these guys that grew up that

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we were all teenagers and twenties, mid twenties, and now

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they're all like me, fifty with kids, and you know,

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people are settled in their careers and so it's an

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interesting thing. Also, like you said, I feel like we

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showed people how to work with their hands and that

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it's okay, you know, and we motivated. I can't imagine

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how many guys said, I do this because of your show.

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This is what I do for a living because of

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your shows. You know. It's amazing how much inspiration we

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were able to put out there. And again we were

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just being us. But in hindsight, I start to look

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at our body of work and I go, my gosh,

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this is even bigger than bikes or motorcycles or cars

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or any of that. You know, we had. We've made

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a mark, you know.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely did. You know, you made some names there.

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And I don't know if you knew this, but Von

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Dutch was one of our painters. I grew up with

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him as a kid, spent a lot of time, more

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time with him than my mother liked.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 1: He really was a bad influence.

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Speaker 2: I heard a lot. I've heard a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: So I used to live here in Timp. His shop

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was down on Curry and he used to go to

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Minderbinders and have lunch there and every day he'd pinstripe

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the door or something. I mean, the place was a

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Von Dutch archive and learned a lot from him, and

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then he when he left Arizona, he went to Movie

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World in California. Oh yeah, re storing a lot of

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Big Daddy ed Roth's cars. And Big Daddy ed Roth

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was actually over at Knotsberry Farm and that's where he

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ended up retiring and was painting all the rides. If

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you ever saw the rides back then they had pinstriping you,

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That's where both these guys sort of end.

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Speaker 2: I met him one time. I brought the Black Widow

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back in two thousand and two to the Rats Hole

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Show in Daytona, and he was there. He was a

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little he was I guess his health wasn't great at

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the time, but it was like, you know, maybe a

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couple of years later he passed, but I did get

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to meet him, which was cool, and I got to

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be a part of his show. And you know, his

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stuff is so cool. These guys are like, these guys

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are like the legends of what I do.

475
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: You know.

476
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,759
Speaker 2: I even think of arlen Ness and how he goes

477
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,680
way back and what a theme builder that guy was

478
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,839
really laying the groundwork for a guy like myself, you know.

479
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,559
So I have such an appreciation for history, and it

480
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,119
really translates. If you can see up in this corner,

481
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,680
you see that tank up there, Yes, the stars and stripes. Yeah,

482
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,200
that's a Von Dutch painted gas tank. And I have

483
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,440
In nineteen sixty six, Look magazine did a whole spread

484
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,319
on him that I have all the photographs, every step

485
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,319
of every inch of that tank. Can you hand me

486
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,680
that tank? I want to just show him. It's really cool.

487
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,079
And there's a story that goes with it that Peter

488
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,319
Fonda saw this tank. Now this is sixty six. It's signed.

489
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:17,559
It says receive a California on it. And the story

490
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,759
is that that Peter Fonda saw this tank and liked it.

491
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,200
And you can see how it might have been inspiration

492
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,359
for a bike that everybody is familiar with, right, But

493
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,920
you can see it's his Von Dutton and there's there's

494
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,759
his signature. I don't know if you can see it,

495
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:33,640
but I can.

496
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very familiar with it.

497
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:37,519
Speaker 2: What a great tank, huh.

498
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I sold a lot of Dutches stuff over

499
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:43,200
the years. I collect some of it. I have some

500
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,400
of his tools that he engraved.

501
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. He was something else.

502
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:55,319
Speaker 1: You had paintings regular paintings. I have the square rainbow.

503
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,759
So every time he was doing a new color, he

504
00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,839
would tape off something and he would put it in

505
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,519
it so and it's really three D when you look

506
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,559
at it. He was a master. He also made guns.

507
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen some guns.

508
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: Us knives, master engraver. Yeah, you know, when you have talent,

509
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359
you just have talent, that's it. And yeah, it was

510
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,920
painting seeing him. Now here's the trick to Dutch. He

511
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,359
had to have at least one beer, but no more

512
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,319
than six. Who we're in between there. He had a

513
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,680
straight hand after that.

514
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right. He started out shaky. It

515
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,640
was smooth and then got.

516
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: Shaky later fun you had to hit that sweet spot.

517
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,599
But having him do something freehand and then you could

518
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,799
trace it and flip it to the other side, it

519
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,839
was perfect and it was spot on.

520
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: I've seen a few pinstripers that were very good. But

521
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,400
I know he was a master. I mean he was

522
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,599
a machinist, right, I mean he did what didn't he do?

523
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,599
He did everything. He literally could do anything. He was

524
00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,960
one of those guys that just had natural gifted talent

525
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
and he had his style and he was you know,

526
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:06,119
kind of prolific. I guess right. I mean you knew him,

527
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,640
and that's like, wow, that's that's pretty neat.

528
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very well. Didn't understand the impact. I just

529
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:17,960
like hanging out with them when you come to the shop,

530
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,880
paint and pinstripe and all that, and I just hung

531
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440
out just trying to absorb it all and learn. And

532
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720
you teach me on an old hood, how to how

533
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,400
to pull stripes and how to do different designs, and

534
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,119
you know, just learned a lot metal work. He was

535
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,319
actually great at metal work. He hated doing it.

536
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: But he was good at it.

537
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,599
Speaker 1: He was good at it. Does he understand metallurgy. That's

538
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,920
why he was such a great machinist. He knew it.

539
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,480
It wasn't his favorite thing to do, but the paint

540
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,119
and the guns and those were some of his favorite

541
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,759
things to do.

542
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've seen some pretty crazy engraving. And if you

543
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,799
ever get tired of any of that stuff, I buy

544
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,759
a lot of that stuff. As you can see behind me,

545
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,559
I'm a big I'm a big fan of everything early

546
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,240
transportation in Americana. Just a colectic I like a mix

547
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:11,240
of stuff. I love signage that is one piece I mean,

548
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,960
if I spun you around, I'm just surrounded. I got

549
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,119
the walls covered. And I collect very unique, mostly rarer stuff.

550
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,480
I'm not you know, I've got over ten years, I've

551
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:24,640
kind of refined my collection. I like one offs, you know,

552
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
even one off sign stuff you really don't see a

553
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,480
lot of. And I like history. I like anything that

554
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,079
has a big story. I'm a sucker for a story.

555
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,839
I'll pay up for a good history. Boy. You get

556
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200
me hook line and sinker. And I do like a

557
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,079
lot of research. I'll become even if I don't buy something,

558
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200
if it's something that I'm interested in, I'll do a

559
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,200
ton of research on it. Maybe I won't get it

560
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,160
or maybe whatever, but I'll but then i'll catalog that

561
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,359
so next time I see that item, I go, oh, man,

562
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,960
that's this is what that is?

563
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:54,319
Speaker 1: You know.

564
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: So I think history has got its hooks in me.

565
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:02,160
I'd put it that way, you know, Oh.

566
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:06,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. To it. The story and the history

567
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,519
behind the artifacts is what makes them what they are.

568
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,279
It's who made it, how did they make it.

569
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: And why did they make it?

570
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: For? Why did they make it? For? What journey was

571
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,079
it supposed to go on? Or what purpose was it

572
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,839
supposed to have? And you know, you look at all

573
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,880
the great cars, it's a great designer behind it. And

574
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,240
it may have if you're lucky. The great designer has

575
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,079
great engineering underneath the hood. And you know, you look

576
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:40,640
at all the people Harley Earl, all of his great cars,

577
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:46,279
they fantastic, you know, all of the main the Big

578
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,720
Three had great designers behind them.

579
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:49,319
Speaker 2: Yep.

580
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Virgil Xeler so what he did yep.

581
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,119
Speaker 2: And those guys jumped around a little here and there too,

582
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,599
and they have their influence and mixed and really cool stuff. Man, really, yeah,

583
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,799
I love I love automotive history. It's so it's so uh,

584
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:07,319
it's so eclectic, and it's so subjective. Even when you

585
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,000
look into the past. Even if you look at like

586
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,640
the early airflows and stuff, how they were so far

587
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,599
ahead of their No one wanted them. I mean, no,

588
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,319
these are beautiful cars at the time, they were too advanced,

589
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,640
you know. And you look at that history and it's

590
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,599
like it's the history of us as a country, because

591
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,759
automotive history is our history, you know.

592
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:29,039
Speaker 1: It absolutely is. Look at the Tucker. He was a

593
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,319
fantastic The Big Three had to crush him because he

594
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,319
was going to kill him.

595
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: No, and then there's what there's only like forty one

596
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:37,799
of other there's like a limited number.

597
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Twenty yeah, yeah, yeah.

598
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I judge every year at Amelia, and they

599
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,480
had a nice Tucker two years ago, I think. And

600
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:49,640
it was fun to just get right up on that car.

601
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,319
What a work of art man, What a visionary guy

602
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,480
to be able to put something like that together at

603
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,000
that time.

604
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:03,359
Speaker 1: You know, yep, it's uh, everything that happens around moving

605
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:08,000
technology forward. What it takes to take the risk to

606
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,559
have the vision and then make it happen. And you

607
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,759
got to give it to the car companies back then.

608
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,559
A lot of them rolled the dice when the bean

609
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,359
counters may say no, but they got they took the chance,

610
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,960
you know, Corvette things like that. You know, when the

611
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,000
cars came out, well this is not a four door

612
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,160
stand No, we're going for the sports car market.

613
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:32,839
Speaker 2: That's right. It was impractical for all for the bean

614
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,000
counter's purposes.

615
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: But look at where we are today, right, God, people

616
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,039
took chances.

617
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even race history when you go way back,

618
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,759
even like you know Vanderbilt cup stuff. I mean these

619
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,559
cars when they were fast, they were selling, right, I mean,

620
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680
that's that's the bottom line. And so when you look

621
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880
at race history and what a what a critical role

622
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
it played in how people bought cars and what they

623
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,000
thought was good. I mean, this goes back to like

624
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:02,759
when cars started, and it still today holds true. Right,

625
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,680
So it's interesting the moves that these companies make and

626
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,960
then the competitive nature between all these even like the

627
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,759
Ferraris and the Fords. You know, you see, all this

628
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,839
stuff is a very very competitive industry, you.

629
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:23,559
Speaker 1: Know, absolutely is. And I think the movies throwing a

630
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,759
light back on the great people like Carol Shelby. I

631
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,319
collect a lot of his cars, you know, I think

632
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,079
if it wasn't for Ford versus Ferrari, I don't think

633
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,119
the general population would know what a risk taker he was,

634
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,160
how much he fought against the bureaucracy inside of Ford.

635
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: He did.

636
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: What a maverick. Maverick that was him, you know.

637
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: It's funny. So when we did those Mustangs, he was

638
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,359
a part of that. Carol Shelby, he was a part

639
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,519
of that company, and he was on our show and

640
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,200
I was able to spend about an hour and a

641
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,599
half one day just me and him, uh and we

642
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,640
just talked and he just told me like his whole

643
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,519
life story in about an hour and a half, soup

644
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:10,680
to nuts, racing with his overall got shown up at

645
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,119
the races with his overalls on, chicken crap all over

646
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,000
him and just jumping the cargo and then go right

647
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,720
back to work. Really interesting guy, even his whole South

648
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,359
Africa thing, and he was breeding these different cows, and

649
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,839
we talk about like a renaissance man. The just they

650
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,640
don't even make people like that anymore, you know.

651
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,119
Speaker 1: And it's amazing how many people run into that, know,

652
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720
one from all different. When I went to his funeral,

653
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,400
it was amazing the whole aviation side that came there.

654
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,880
What a pilot he was, How he went through ground

655
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,880
school and he had such a knack for flying airplanes

656
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,039
that he didn't end up going and fighting in the war.

657
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,359
He ended up training other people how to fly.

658
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Such an aptitude, such an aptitude for things.

659
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: He did, and a passion between you know, farming, you know,

660
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,960
being a rancher out in Texas and chickens and all

661
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,280
of that. But then you look at his other businesses Chili,

662
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,719
you know, he got off into the Chili deal and

663
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,119
working between Ford and then Dodge, you know, the father

664
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,440
of the Viper and working with Leiah Coca on that

665
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,079
like he did back with the Mustang, and you just

666
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,719
sit and you talk to him, and the stories he

667
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,599
would tell you, the off color ones were actually very hilarious,

668
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,280
the antics that went on back in those days.

669
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: But he had away with words in a great sense

670
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,320
of humor.

671
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,599
Speaker 1: He did. And miss him all the time, and he

672
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,039
was one of those great people to be around. Had

673
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,320
a great time with him and the coach when we

674
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,440
sold his Cobra, we sold Sammy Hagar's Gt. Five hundred

675
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
and we were in my coach together and Sammy and

676
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,400
him were carrying on and it was great just sitting

677
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,280
back and watching these two guys, the legends in their

678
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,480
own world, funding over Mustangs and four twenty sevens and cars.

679
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: And loving it.

680
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, those are those are days that you just

681
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,320
look back on. Every time I talked to sam Man

682
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,079
when we said mare with Carroll is telling me it's

683
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,360
all about it. You got that motor never ran right,

684
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,599
That's why I'd had to run at seven thousand rpm.

685
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,320
And you put it in a street car and wonder

686
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,880
it's crazy.

687
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's funny. That's great. Man, that's great

688
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,880
to hear that from the master. You know, where else

689
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,440
would you get that information? You just wouldn't, you know, it's.

690
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,119
Speaker 1: Been It's great Kevin that you go back to the history,

691
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,039
the history of the cars and the people that took

692
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:41,119
the chances to build them and did it for the

693
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,840
right reasons, because they loved the cars, and you know,

694
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,920
the competitive spirit of America back then, wanting to go

695
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,039
beat the world coming out of the war. We want

696
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,679
to we want to dominate.

697
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,119
Speaker 2: And you know, I.

698
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,119
Speaker 1: Think Ford versus Ferrari really shed light on how hard it.

699
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,679
Speaker 2: Was to go do that was so far and far ahead,

700
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,800
so far ahead of the game.

701
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their engines were really sophisticated. Yeah, and pieces

702
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,719
of art themselves that you know, it took tenacity And

703
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
that's what I love seeing as people that have grit

704
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,760
and tenacity. I think that's why people loved watching your

705
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,559
your show. You guys showed grit and tenacity.

706
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're right, especially Paul, you know, yes,

707
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,280
my thoughts. Yeah, right, that's that. I think that was

708
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,719
the staying power, you know, that was the that that

709
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,679
level of relatability you're talking about. I don't think i've

710
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,199
ever met a person that didn't say, your dad reminds

711
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,400
me and my dad, right, because they're from that that

712
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:51,199
certain school that for all intentsive purposes doesn't exist anymore.

713
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,239
The people aren't coming up behind those type of personalities

714
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
so much. I don't see it, you know. I was

715
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,719
just talking to my brother. It's like, I think everybody's

716
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,880
getting a little soft anymore, or in this country. You know, Uh,

717
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,280
these guys were think about it. You talk about these

718
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,039
guys from the past, they're you know, were they rough

719
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,440
around the edges? Were they quite often inappropriate and things

720
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,400
of that nature. Yes, but you kind of miss that

721
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,280
mentality that it's the tenacity is like it's part of

722
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,119
the package. I guess you would say, you know, and

723
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960
so I do. I do really like, I do really

724
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,239
appreciate what we were able to do through the show

725
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,679
for all those years, uh, and and the impact it

726
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,519
had on people.

727
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think it shows if you have a dream,

728
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:39,679
all takes his effort to and talent to make it happen.

729
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,079
If you got both of those.

730
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: You got a lot, right, you got something to work with, right.

731
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, Guys like Dutch had pure talent and he

732
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:53,400
had definitely had tenacity. It takes the other part of it.

733
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:56,159
You have business sense of how to monetize that a

734
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,800
lot of people don't, and a lot of people don't

735
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,599
have the last.

736
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: Especially creatives, especially creatives that you're right, and sometimes you

737
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,960
even give up, especially with painters and people like that.

738
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000
They're very particular, they're very honory, quite often hard to

739
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,880
deal with, very eccentric. And so you know, if you

740
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,159
can have the creativity and be a good business person

741
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,119
and be relatable and be able to have conversations, that's

742
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,000
like the trifecta, right, that's how you can manage to

743
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:29,320
make your art your living. And fortunately, by the grace

744
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,360
of God, that's what I've been able to do. You know,

745
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,199
make these beautiful works of art, but make money at it,

746
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,760
not just make them for people to enjoy, but to

747
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,760
you know, buy things with, have a family, like a

748
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,920
have a good business throughout the years.

749
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's good to say that you have a

750
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:51,639
broader passion for this. And it's not just the bikes.

751
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,960
I love that you've gotten into the cars, and obviously

752
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:59,360
you like the stories and the memorabilia and the automobilia.

753
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,360
I love the game. Isn't that great that's incredible.

754
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Stars and stripes. It's fantastic. Yeah, I appreciate, yeah, you know,

755
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,079
and I uh, and my my passion grows. I'm not

756
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,079
you know, I'm fifty so and I'm just learning still.

757
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,880
I mean, there's so much to learn, uh there, you know.

758
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,119
And I have so many great older guys that have

759
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800
taught me so many things about the different areas that

760
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719
I'm passionate about. So if I have a question about things,

761
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:29,239
I could go to a number of guys. And over

762
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,239
time you start to just get more seasoned about all

763
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,000
of it. Right, you start you see something, you go,

764
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:36,880
I know what that is, and I know who built

765
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
that engine and who you know who who designed that

766
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,599
car or or whatever it is? Right, collectibles and everything else.

767
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,960
So it's a fun journey. And uh it's and I

768
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,599
will say, man, the collecting thing, as you well know,

769
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,360
because you collect cars, you get bit by that bug. Man,

770
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,719
it's you're it's you're done, it's over. You can you

771
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,800
can't walk away. I look at I've especially signs for me.

772
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,199
I really love signs. I love advertising. You know what

773
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,679
I've really done through these years is people just look

774
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:08,239
at it and go, oh, we love the bike. But

775
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000
I build marketing and advertising. I know what I'm doing.

776
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:15,159
I build. I build bikes for companies that don't need them.

777
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,599
What they need is outside the box marketing. I've done

778
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,199
that my entire career. Not one of these four, like

779
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,000
the Yankees, didn't need a bike, they needed some outside

780
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,960
the box marketing, or MLB or Cadillac or Mercedes AMG

781
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,320
like all these companies through these years, they didn't really

782
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,480
need a motorcycle. They needed outside the box marketing. And

783
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:36,960
we got them there because creatively we told the story

784
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,719
of their brand or product. With what we did, it

785
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,760
was fully integrated. We didn't hold up the can and

786
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,760
say this, we built the bike to look like the can.

787
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,199
Do you know what I'm saying. So the storytelling aspect

788
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,039
of things is really I think what makes it far reaching.

789
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:56,519
Even for the show, Like we built the fire bike,

790
00:40:56,679 --> 00:41:00,000
right people, they didn't care about the motorcycle in a say,

791
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,880
they cared about the firemen that died nine to eleven.

792
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,400
You know, these are all the ways we've sent the

793
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,880
message across so our audience has been so much broader

794
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,639
than motorcycle people. And for you know, as far as

795
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:16,519
you were saying, like me with the mix. I'm a designer.

796
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840
My father he rides motorcycles. He loves I ride a

797
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,119
motorcycle once in a while. But I'm more about the design,

798
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:25,480
and that's why I'm able to do the cars and

799
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,599
basically anything you can throw my way. I have an

800
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:32,280
eye for design. That's my gift is design, right, and

801
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,239
I do it in the way of theme right. So

802
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320
you like the car behind you, I could build a

803
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,800
bike to match that car and it would look like

804
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,159
it got built at the same time as the car,

805
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,079
you know. So it's a lot about the storytelling, you know.

806
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,039
And in the same sense, as much as I love history,

807
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,239
I look at how we've been able to make history

808
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,360
and continue to do so.

809
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think people look back at your body

810
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,920
of work very favorably.

811
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: As my opinion, yeah, I appreciate that.

812
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: Think you were a trendsetter in a lot of way,

813
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,480
but you look back at the masters as to how

814
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,760
they did stuff, and it's a blend.

815
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: It is, yep, And you know, I would say this too.

816
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
The team has always been the only way to get there,

817
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,760
and we've had some of the best teams through the years.

818
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360
So I can have an idea, but I can't do

819
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,079
all the aspects of that idea. I can just toe

820
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,039
the line, okay in the endgame. It's my design, But

821
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,559
I can't do it without my guys, you know, my

822
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:32,360
sheep metal guys, my painters, engravers, machinists. All these guys

823
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,400
come together to make one big, beautiful piece of art.

824
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:38,920
And it is always about team, I'm telling you. Even

825
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,920
like my sheet metal guy, Brendan, he's out in California.

826
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:43,880
Every time I have a project, I fly. He's my

827
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,679
only guy. That's it. Since I've been in business for myself,

828
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,480
he's my only sheep metal guy, you know. So that

829
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,079
has been like a big factor because me and him

830
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,599
together were like Batman and Robin. You know, we can

831
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,920
like accomplish anything once we go to work. And it's

832
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,679
been it's been a great so far.

833
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,559
Speaker 1: You know, did he roll some of the parts on

834
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:04,639
the zeffyort to extend?

835
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,199
Speaker 2: This is the only No, this is the only project

836
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,440
because he's in California, And when I started that, I

837
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,079
think people were still not traveling because it's a couple

838
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,280
of year project. Yeah, I just couldn't couldn't make that

839
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,599
one happen. But for every single bike that you see

840
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:22,440
around my showroom that I built since twenty ten when

841
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,719
I started. Paul Junior designs the motorcycle aspect of it.

842
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Every single bike. He's got his hands on every single bike.

843
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,320
He did the sheet metal. So are all our build

844
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,639
off bikes and we make a crack team. You know.

845
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: Well one thing you mentioned you built the nine to

846
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,119
eleven bikes. So we are doing a charity car at

847
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:46,679
Palm Beach four tunnels to towers, vin one of a

848
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,000
dark Horse Mustang nice and Frank Stellar will be there

849
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:52,800
to sell that with us.

850
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: So fantastic.

851
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,079
Speaker 1: We've sold quite a few customized vehicles over the years

852
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,880
for tunnels to hours and I appreciate all the builders

853
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,960
that over the time have built special vehicles to help

854
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:11,159
our veterans and first responders, and you guys through the

855
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:13,039
show have also done the same thing.

856
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, thank you. That has always been near

857
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:24,360
and dear to our hearts. Uh working with first responders, military, police, firemen.

858
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:28,239
You know, even like the military, right, I didn't go

859
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,840
I didn't go fight in the military. So my whole

860
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,920
life I always thought, well, you better, you better, you

861
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:35,239
better prop these guys up. You didn't go over there

862
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,440
and do it. You know they're over there for you.

863
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,119
You better do something to let them know how much

864
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,920
you appreciate them, and let everyone else out there know, Hey,

865
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,679
you better let these guys know how much you appreciate

866
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,159
what they do to keep us free as a country.

867
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,119
And it's a very real thing, and I think it's

868
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,440
a little I think it's coming back a little bit

869
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:56,320
more these days. I feel like patriotism is a critically

870
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,199
important thing and I'm starting to sense it again. It's like, Okay,

871
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,440
this is America, and I feel like I don't want

872
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,039
to get way into it, but I think we're in

873
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:06,719
a good place and I think it's only going to

874
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,239
get better.

875
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, knock on?

876
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:14,599
Speaker 2: Would knock on? Woud I know? Well? So what do

877
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:19,480
we expect at this auction on the twenty sixth of April?

878
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:21,760
What are we looking at for the weekend? It's going

879
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,000
to be a good rollout or what?

880
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: I think it'll be good. We're about six hundred cars

881
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,599
all no reserve. What do we have five different charity

882
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:36,760
cars that were selling. It's smaller than Scottsdale, so we

883
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,599
normally do about two fifteen hundred to two thousand register

884
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:44,519
bidders Scottsdale about six thousand, but it's still the same

885
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:50,079
ratio of buyers. It is very much a party. People

886
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,679
come to Palm Beach to have a good time. The

887
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
auction Scott Stale will go till ten eleven o'clock at night.

888
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,159
The auction there ends early and we all go out

889
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,360
and have fun. Palm Beach and the surrounding area is

890
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,400
a good time, okay. And Palm Beach is really matured,

891
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,119
especially since Trump came into office down there. It's really

892
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,239
been a catalyst for that area. A lot of corporations

893
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,719
moving there. It's a fun area, great resorts, and a

894
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,920
great time people. If they're watching the podcast, you should

895
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,800
register it to bit at Barrett hyphen Jackson dot com

896
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,719
and come there in person because Palm Beach, Florida that

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,239
time of year is just a kick.

898
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you when we were out there.

899
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,480
I think when we were out at the one where

900
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,079
we sold our cars. I think that was when Carol

901
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,119
Shelby's cover sold for five million for a charity. If

902
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:46,360
I'm not mistaken, that was going way back it.

903
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,639
Speaker 1: Is, so that was the same year. And yeah, we've

904
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:52,400
sold that car three times now.

905
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

906
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: And Carol is a part of our family. Yeah. Eight

907
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
we made Barrett Jackson addition all bees, we made a

908
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,800
hundred of them with Carol and Ford collected five of

909
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,039
those because I just think they're just a neat peach

910
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:13,360
dune and Barrett Jackson colors and one off cars so cool.

911
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,239
You know. The the South Florida one is a lot

912
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,760
like Scott's doone. When you were there, it was in

913
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,840
the tent. Now it's almost doubled in size. It's one

914
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,440
point two million square feet under roof, eight tenths of

915
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480
a mile from the front entrance to the end of

916
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:30,800
the tent.

917
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember being overwhelmed with the size of it.

918
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,000
Back then. I was like, what is this like the

919
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:37,599
greatest show on Earth right here?

920
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's doubled in size. Scottsdale, that's amazing.

921
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:44,360
So the good thing and the bad thing about Scottsdale

922
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,280
it's imments. It's a lot of walking, and it's two

923
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,800
thousand cars. You sort of you know, it's you know,

924
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,079
which tent do you want to go? Look at? Me

925
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,320
write an app just to tell you how to go

926
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880
find all the cars. Palm Beach is a little smaller,

927
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,199
a little bit more intimate but has the same excitement

928
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,079
in the auction arena. Yeah, I know people will love you.

929
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm looking forward to it. There are

930
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,320
my people down there down south, and I thought this

931
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,920
would be a good one for that because you know,

932
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,800
Arizona is the big one. But I feel like maybe

933
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,960
the car gets a little bit more attention in this arena.

934
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:20,559
Speaker 1: And bingo, you are the feature car.

935
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good. That's what we wanted.

936
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,079
Speaker 1: Fifty in a row that are all five hundred thousand

937
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:26,920
dollars cars.

938
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

939
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: And you know I've had that same theory, you know,

940
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:34,519
Steve Davis, our president, who lays out the dockets. I

941
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:36,920
put a car in years ago, and then I get

942
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,639
the catalog and I'm like, put it where you think

943
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:42,239
it's good. Like I'm flipping through Friday, I'm looking through Saturday.

944
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,719
I go back, I'm i I'm on Wednesday. He goes, Yes,

945
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,360
you are the feature car of Wednesday. I like it

946
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,639
sounds good when you say it broke a world record

947
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:56,119
because it was the car of the day and everybody

948
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,559
went to the car and that record stood for years.

949
00:48:59,679 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

950
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,519
Speaker 1: So whether I would have put it on Saturday, I

951
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,519
don't know if it would have got that wow, because

952
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:08,119
it would have been just another Shelby. But it was

953
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:13,719
a four speed Hurts car, so it was a rare car, right, and.

954
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: You know you made you made the right decision.

955
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: He made the decision.

956
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,119
Speaker 2: He made it for you, right, Okay, fair enough?

957
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:25,079
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, yeah, wow, your car. That's

958
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,079
why we put it on the cover. You know, ye

959
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,480
for gts and other cars, but there are production cars

960
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,519
and we put four GTS on the cover before. Yours

961
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:38,719
is a piece of art. The photography is spectacular and

962
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:40,840
when they ran the cover by me, I.

963
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Was like, yep, that's it.

964
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,119
Speaker 1: Good.

965
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad it worked out this way. And this was

966
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,480
kind of a we were really only like a month

967
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,840
and a half ago that we started talking, not even

968
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,679
I don't think this was pretty quick, but you know,

969
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
nowadays you can move like that. You don't have to

970
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,239
be so far out. Look, we're doing a podcast about it.

971
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,480
You guys got it out there and everybody meet. We

972
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,039
got it shot within a week and so we were

973
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:04,719
able to move pretty quick. And I was able to

974
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,760
get the article done and I'm going to have a

975
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,119
Saturday spot which I think is going to be cool,

976
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:13,159
and it's my lot number seven nineteen and I think

977
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:14,800
that's gonna I like the number.

978
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: Well, hang out all day, you'll be my guest and

979
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,719
as well as you need anything, and everybody should come

980
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,440
and join us there because it really is a fun

981
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:27,639
party at Barrett Jackson down there and a great night

982
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,840
life to go out and hit the town afterwards.

983
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: Cool, that's an invitation, then, huh.

984
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: It's an invitation.

985
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: All right, I'll take it. We'll see you there, all right.

986
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. This has been absolutely a pleasure.

987
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too. I appreciate your conversation. I appreciate

988
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,679
seeing you again, and we'll see you in a couple

989
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,639
of weeks, all right, look forward to it, all right,

990
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:47,199
Thanks Greig.

991
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 1: Bye,

