Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys heading into Detroit. Is there money making opportunity there?
Of course, there is a whole lot of NHL games,
some NBA games, college hoops. You're watching the best betting
show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman, King of the show, Joe
Ranieri with us Art de Caesar. Like always, Joe, I'll
go to you first. How are you, dude?
Speaker 2: Good? It's setting up to be a fun weekend. Pres
Lots of college football playoffs around the corner. Put up
a shut up time in the NFL. Gotta love it. Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get straight into it. Art some bets for
this weekend. Where's the money going. Let's start with the NFL.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Bengals and Bills. Bengals go to the Bills. Took
sharp money on Buffalo. We're now at six on the game.
Sharp's also bet that over from fifty one and a
half to fifty three. Another big game, Texans at Chiefs.
Total has not really budged. We've been forty two pretty
much from the time we opened. We're now sitting Chiefs
minus three and a half even money. That's actually gonna
see pretty good two way action. I'm sure the public
will bet the Chiefs. I'm sure the Chiefs will be
in all the money line stuff once the weekend hits,
but right now it's seem pretty good. Two action and
the game tonight. I mean the look aheadline on this
game Detroit seven. You're now Detroit three minus one sixteen.
Public is on Dallas, sharps are on the Lions. It
feels like you have a bottom barrel number for Detroit.
Like I said, when a look aheadline was seven, and
now you're getting three on that. If you like Detroit,
probably now it's time to fire. Was trending towards three
and a half, probably high total fifty four and a half.
This is gonna be a heavily bet game. Public will
be on the over in the game, so I'd be
shocked if we don't need the under in the game.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you, Art, is the Are
you feeling that maybe the public is finally out on
Kansas City with this game coming up against Houston? I mean,
if they are, I think they've won the last five
against them. It always feels like, you know, Houston, like
oh they can do it, and then they don't do it.
But is the public finally out on them? Do you think.
Speaker 3: I think to a certain degree, Joe, I don't think
they're fully out because, like I said, I do think
by the time we get to Sunday, they're gonna look
at the Chiefs in moneyline parlays. I don't think they're
gonna I don't think the public's gonna want to lay
three and a half, but I think that they're going
to have two and three and four teamers built around
the Chiefs on the money line. You know that three
and a half number is tough. It's tough to lay
over a field goal with Kansas City right now. So,
like I said, I think we're gonna see really good
two way action on the game. I think if the
Sharps do lean one way, they'll probably take Houston and
the points and maybe even the under. I still think
we could see some under money here with a total
of forty two. And how good that Texans defense is.
This feels like a playoff type of game, Slugfest game
twenty to seventeen, So I still think we could see
that as well.
Speaker 1: Art to see, if you're joining us start, I'm just
gonna throw some stuff at you that we did not plan. Seattle.
Looks like money is coming in on Atlanta. There's a
six and a half out there. Now, Art, what are
you seeing on the Seattle Atlanta game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, as I mentioned the other day, you know, we
were highs eight on the game and then we did
take some money on Atlanta. Now we didn't necessarily take
sharp money on Atlanta. Sometimes we just you know, the money,
the money piles up, the money accumulates, we have to move,
We have to move with the market. But you also
got to recognize Seattle being in that seven range, they're
still going to be very popular in the moneyline, parlays
and the teasers, so you got to take that into
account as well. But you are right, Press, we have
seen that for us at one point.
Speaker 1: Move there cool And at the Cincinnati Buffalo game, is
it just almost all over betters right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, And like I said, we did
see sharp money on Buffalo on the side, which has
moved us to six, and I think we're honestly one
of the only six is out there. But the initial
sharp money on this game was on fifty one and
a half, now sitting fifty three and a half, So
a two point move to the over there, which is
not shocking.
Speaker 1: And really, lastly, art this Pittsburgh Baltimore total, there's now
forty two and a half's out there. This entered opened
at forty seven and a half. Do you actually have
guys sitting with five point middle opportunities here?
Speaker 3: Well, for us, we didn't open that high. But you know,
as I mentioned the other day when we were there,
we did take sharp money on the under, so it
has moved us. But we have mentioned this probably over
the last two or three shows here for the last
two or three weeks, that once you get into the
late you know, November, December, all that type of stuff,
you're going to get to places with weather and the
way some of these openers go, and by the time
these games close, where guys do sit with five at
six point meddals, it does happen a lot later we
get into the season, So we definitely have to deal
with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to mention something about that kind
of when you're supposed to bet totals or sides, and
I think hockey is the best illustration of that. If
you are betting an under, you have to bet at
the night before. In hockey, there is simply no other
way to attack it. You have six and a half
on so many games at ten pm at night, you
take the unders.
Speaker 2: You wake up at six.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's even five and a half. And that should
demonstrate where the public bets on a regular basis. So yeah,
it works the same in the NFL in every sport. Frankly,
I think I think it's what one percent more bet?
What is it? Fifty one, forty nine to the over,
something like that, Art, Do you know that number?
Speaker 3: I don't, but it makes sense. I mean, we talk
about this all the time that the public does not
want to sit in the sports book and rus for
seventeen or ten. They just don't. They want to watch
thirty four to thirty one. That's what they want to watch,
and that's what they bet to.
Speaker 2: And that's such a weird it's such a weird rivalry
because it always favors the underdog. It always favors the
under Tomlin and Harbaugh never played the overs, and the
public knows it by now, Prez, so that's they were
never ever going to bet the over in that game.
I think it was going to be under from the
get go, Art, which is smart that you didn't open
it as high as some places did, because you had
to know it was going to be nothing but under money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said it, Joe. That's traditionally an undergame.
It has been basically the last two decades here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, With that said, what that said, this is not
a Pittsburgh Steeler defense that we're used to. I think
this is the fifth worst unit in the league.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: I'm with your press. It's not a vintage Steelers defense,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to well out the team props. Here we go,
Baltimore twenty four and a half, Steelers seventeen and a half.
I could see the under in that Steeler game, in
the Steeler team total. I prefer that, then the under
on the forty two and a half on the game.
I prefer the Steeler team total under. Here.
Speaker 2: I'll give you their style. Press Lamar and the Ravens.
The last three home games in Baltimore, twenty four or
more points they have scored against the Steelers defense. Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, so I mean to me, if I'm betting this game,
you know, and obviously I like Baltimore here, I would
if I was to take an over, I would take
Baltimore team total twenty or and a half. If I
was to take an under, I would take Pittsburgh's steam
total under. I think that's how this game is going
to play out. I even like Baltimore at minus the points. Frankly, guys,
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whole bunch of them later on in the show Art
de Cazar, before we get into the Dallas Detroit game.
Are you seeing any betting in oh, we need to
know in hoops or NHL tonight.
Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, a couple of college I can throw at you.
In NHL and the NBA. We saw some Jazz money
this morning. Market moved up on the Jazz, saw some
Flames money at home. They were as high as like
plus one oh six, plus one oh seven, basically you know,
pick them now. In that game for US Wisconsin, Green
Bay took under money at one forty now one thirty eight.
They laid three with Cal Northrich all the way up
to five and Cal Steve Fullerson big over total one
seventy six.
Speaker 2: We opened.
Speaker 3: We hit as high as one eighty on that game.
We've creeped down a little bit on that game, but
that initial money was sharp on that high total.
Speaker 1: Well, there we go, Dallas in Detroit. I gotta tell you, guys,
I'm in play. I got a five percent play up
tonight on this game. I'm in play on both the
side and the total. I'm only gonna give out one bet.
I'm gonna do it now, and that is Dak over
one and a half touchdown passes. That's right, Dak Prescott
over one and a half touchdown passes. Joe, I'll go
to you first.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because the public loves the over, and
I think Ardell will let you know that we're probably
the line in the sand here with this total is
the pros are going to be on the under and
the Joe's are absolutely gonna be on the over. I'm
gonna cut the game in half for us here, simply
because I've been the only one here on this show
that has been screaming this is not the same Detroit
offense that it has been. Now, they're down all sorts
of guys here. Nola Porta, Noa, mont Saint Brown, he
won't be there, Khalif Raymond won't be there all of
a sudden, the wet aren't there. But you know who
has the weapons. Dallas does. And Dallas has now seven
of their last ten games, pres has scored fourteen or
more points in the first half. Detroit's defense has now
allowed thirteen or more first half points in four of
their last five games, and that includes against teams like Oh,
I don't know, the Vikings, the Giants, the Commanders, a
ridiculously bad Eagles offense, and the Packers. And I don't
think they hold a candle to what the Cowboys offense
is bringing to the table here. If all I need
is the Cowboys to score two touchdowns to get over
their first half team total at twelve and a half, yeah,
I am backing the Cowboys in the first half their
team total Overard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, you actually need two field goals in a touchdown.
You don't even need the second touchdown. Oh, they'll get
the touchdown, They'll get I do like that, like that pick.
That makes a lot of sense to me. Art First,
where's the money going in this game? And then tell
us what your thoughts are?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Joe, hit it. You know public's gonna
be on the over Sharp's definitely going to be on
the under fifty four and a half. I don't know,
is that our top out number? And then by kickoff
we're at fifty three. I can see it. That's kind
of where we're probably going to go as far as
this game goes. When the sharp's real that you come
in and say, you know, this was the top out number.
Like I said, the look aheadline on this was seven.
So now when you're sitting at three, I think the
people who still believe in Detroit feel this is just
a bottom barrel number for Detroit. So they're gonna feel
good about laying Detroit. It's three and juice because we're
heading towards three and a half maybe on this game.
So we're three minus one sixteen on Detroit. Public will
be on Dallas as well because they're always on Dallas.
That's just the way it goes. I'll throw one prop
out there, which one of our sharp prop guys took.
He took Montgomery over thirty two and a half rushing yards,
so that was a big one.
Speaker 1: Jesus, that could be one rush. Well that's more Gibbs,
Montgomery's more so. Yeah, so we still got them on
Saint Brown questionable. Sam we've already discussed is out. Sewell
is questionable. Half of Detroit is missing this game, and
the line is moving towards Detroit.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 1: So we went from minus three hoping Saint Brown would
play to maybe minus three and a half knowing he
likely won't play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, also to listen, I get it for
both teams. But Detroit loses this, they're out of the
playoffs if you look at their schedule.
Speaker 1: The a pathway because green Bay gets Chicago twice and
Detroit gets Chicago once. There is a pathway now. But yeah,
they have to win this game. But say Dallas Art Dallas,
they're out too, right, So sure you know, and.
Speaker 3: Listen, Thursday always favors the team at home, short week,
you're at home, all that type of stuff. So I
mean this is this is you know, put up or
shut up for Detroit.
Speaker 1: Well, you want to know what favors Detroit. The fact
that Dallas is playing lights out ball and Detroit sucks. Now,
why would that favor Detroit? Well, have you not watched
what's been going on in the NFL this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, parlay of the day.
Speaker 1: This is college football parlay and I'm going to stick
to the plan here, guys, I'm going to take Tomorrow night.
We're going with Kennesaw State. We're taking them, well, it
used to be on the money line, but we'll take
them now. I guess at the points, Art de Caesar,
what do you got? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I like that pick present. I'm on Knnesaw too. They
were basically a pick and you've seen them go all
the way up to two and a half. Well, as
we discussed that game a little bit more. Tomorrow, I'm
gonna go to Friday Night as well. I'm gonna take
Boise on the money line. I know that the line
has really come down from where it was when they
played originally in the season. Some issues with the quarterback.
Maybe with Boise and you and V. He's played a
lot better defensively, but you ANDLV really it feels like
they never beat Boise. So give me Boise on the
money line.
Speaker 2: Joseph been nothing, but I mean Maddox Mattson I believe
is back in this game for Boise. In the whole
world is running to the window and betting.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing fives now are starting to pump up art.
It's absolutely crazy. It's a Boise world. We're all just
living in it, all right. So then I will stick
with Friday as well, and I'm gonna go with my
new head coach there of the Oklahoma State Cowboys, give
me North Texas to get it done and make the
college football Playoff. I will take them on the money line.
Speaker 1: There we go. That's this first half of the show. Art,
what's going on over at the Westgate?
Speaker 2: Fill us in?
Speaker 3: You not much? And then you know, a lot going
on obviously as far as you know, all the sports
happening where college football contests wrapped up. First year of that,
so that was really good and really successful. And you know,
obviously I'll be back tomorrow to talk about a lot
of these bowl games or not bowl games, championship games
for tomorrow and more NFL. So look forward to seeing
you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: There you go, Art to Caesar, everyone, Joe. We got
lots of show still to go, a bunch of NHL games.
I got a breakdown later on. Plus we're gonna do
an NHL and NBA Best Bet segment. Before we do
any of that, it's time for some business.
Speaker 2: Okay, some business.
Speaker 1: Let's go as I told you guys, I got a
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I also have a four percent NHL play up tonight.
This is my first four percent NHL total this season. Now,
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Everybody's in title to rate their units the way they want.
Ninety percent of all my bets are two and three
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is rare. I've only released about fifty of them this
entire calendar year. I'm over sixty percent in them.
Speaker 2: I got one.
Speaker 1: Tonight in hockey, So yeah, I got a big, big card.
I got two NFL plays, two hockey plays, and two
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I am.
Speaker 2: I am all in on this Thursday night game tonight.
Pras got a five percent max play that is up
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Speaker 1: There we go, brother, it's time to queue the clock.
We've got well, I'm gonna give out two NHL best bets.
I got two minutes to do it. Let's get to
the first one, and we're gonna pay attention to the
Toronto Carolina game. You know, I've been telling you guys,
and I told you yesterday, Toronto is going to play
to the under moving forward, and they have. They have
gone under the total of six and a half six
of their last eight games. They just held the Florida
Panthers to one goal, They held Pittsburgh to two. Washington
did get four, but three of them came in the
third period and one was an empty netter, and Columbus
one goal. Basically, what is happening in Toronto is simple.
Craig Grube is a guy that coached the Blues for
many years and was always playing to the under. He
doesn't believe in the cycling type of a game. He
plays north and south, dump and chase. He likes to
play heavy, and he likes to really focus on keeping
goals out of their net. Craig Burube's teams are always
happy to win two, one, three to two games, and
it's exactly the same with Rod Brindemore. Rod Brindemer's Carolina
Panthers team has been an under team since he took over.
They're thirteen and eleven to the over this year, but
that's okay. They've really struggled to keep the puck out
of their net. They've done better of late. They held
Calgary to zero Winnipeg to one shots against them. Are
you kidding me? Calgary put up sixteen, Winnipeg thirteen, the
Rangers seventeen. These are two teams that want to play
slow and two teams that want to play to the under.
Let's not overthink it. Take under six and a half
and that's for my second play. Well Edmonton Oilers in
regulation guys minus one fifty. Yes, Joe, Yes, I am
sticking to the plan. I don't care. Oilers are going
on a run. They're at home, they're playing Seattle. They
played a great game against the Minnesota Wild even though
they lost one nothing and they played an even better
game against Seattle the game before. This Oilers team is
about to turn their season around. Take them minus one fifty, Joe,
what's your two NBA best bets?
Speaker 2: Wow? That's impressive. Pres Well, we only have five five
games in the NBA here tonight, so let's start with
one of them right now and hurry up, guys. The
Boston Celtics, who really, really really pretend like they're an
up tempo team, but they just are not. They just
bomb away from three. And the problem is tonight, while yes,
they're taking on the Washington Wizards, and everyone loves to
beat up the Wizards, except if you are, well the
Atlanta Hawks and Milwaukee Bucks. However, no Jalen Brown tonight.
He is dealing with some flu symptoms. Apparently he is
not going to be available to them, which now leads
me to believe points might be a little bit harder
to come by tonight. This line opened up two thirty
four as a total, I've already bet the under here
no Jaalen Brown. Because of this illness, I would expect
them to play a lot slower and I expect this
to be much more of a half court game. Also,
the Wizards also going to have a number of guys
that are not going to be available to them in
this one. This is going to be like watching paint dry.
If everybody was healthy and playing, I would have considered
to go over. But without everyone healthy or playing, this
is going to be ugliest one. I am taking the
under in that one. I'm also going to take the over. However,
with Utah and Brooklyn here currently right around that two
thirty one, two thirty one and a half mark listen,
Utah has jacked up the pace. They got no problem
running up and down the court and scoring here. Now
they are better at home than on the road. But
I think both of these teams will have a lot
less offense, a lot more a lot less defense rather
on a lot more offense. So I'm gonna look to
back the over and look for points in Utah and
Brooklyn here tonight.
Speaker 1: Press let's keep it rolling, baby NHL rundown every game
of the board. And yeah, I think the New York
Islanders are a live dog.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get in the way of Colorado,
best team in the league by far, and maybe the
best team we've seen ever as far as the start
of the season has gone. But I don't love the
spot with Colorado plus one seventy. I'm gonna take a
flyer on the New York Islanders. Florida playing Nashville. Total
is six and a half at some books, the two
that most of you bet at. We're gonna look to
take under. Nashville is a stone cold under team. This
team can't score, and Florida is a team I think
we're gonna we're gonna see transition back to what they've
been with the last five six years, and that is
an under team six and a half. Let's go with
the under. Tampa Bay hosting Pittsburgh. This is an interesting
game because any Pittsburgh game I'm looking to take over,
and Tampa Bay games I'm looking to take under. So
I'm gonna pass on the total. We're gonna look to
take Tampa Bay in regulation. Ottawa hosting the New York Rangers.
I think the Rangers are really live here. Plus one
ten dog bad spot for Ottawa, especially after the rivalry
game against Montreal. We're gonna take the New York Rangers.
Boston and Saint Louis. I'm gonna take under the total
of five and a half Detroit playing in Columbus. We're
gonna look at under the total of six and a
half in that game. We've already broken down the Toronto
Carolina game. Don't overthink it. Take the under. Take the
under in the Minnesota Calgary game as well. Take Edmonton
minus one fifty three way regulation should bet against Seattle,
and man, I'm just gonna ride the Hulks. They're a
plus two hundred dog. I know La is better, but
this Chicago team just seems to keep winning and keep
getting it done, and that is a juicy price. So
let's look at Chicago, Joe, your college hoops right now?
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that, Prez. Let's make some money on
the Blackhawks. Why we still can that's for sure there,
all right, Prez, we only have I believe nine games
in college basketball here tonight, here's a couple to keep
an eye on. And we're gonna go late night too,
here across all the way to Hawaii. As you see, Davis,
we'll be taking on the Rainbows. Now, this was at
nine and a half, but I can tell you already
it has been bet down. We're seeing eight and eight
and a halfs and I agree with it because there
isn't a whole hell of a lot separating these two
teams right now, and that is a big ass for
Hawaii to win by close to double digits. Here. Both
of these teams have had close losses to well step
up competition like Arizona State and Oregon. For Hawaii, you see, Davis,
by the way, upset a pretty good Nevada team and
played really tough at Colorado. So listen, I think both
these teams are on equal footing. And while yes, the
Rainbows do have a little bit of a home court
advantage there, but it's not like this place is going
to be rolling with people outside the stands. And you
see Davis has been there and done that. Ten of
the last thirteen games between these two have been decided
by eight points or less. I took the nine and
a half. I got no problem in fact betting this
down to eight because I think, you see, Davis might
actually have a chance to steal one there in Honolulu.
And of course, one of the fun games of the
night col Poly Slow taking on cal State fall two
teams that are gonna run faster than you can imagine
up and down this court, so much so that the
betting public has now bet this thing close to one
hundred and eighty points. Do you have any idea how
much has to go well for you to get one
hundred and eighty points in a college basketball game? And
not gonna happen here? These two, while they may take
a ton of shots, they never have any idea where
they're going. So I like the under one seventy nine
in cal Poly cal State Fullerton.
Speaker 1: Joe, let's get there a mailbag section of the show.
Let's start with Debbie Head. My ex wife's name was Debbie.
Her last name was not Head. Joe, that I can
tell you unequivocally. I'm going with a player prop Sanders
for a touchdown at plus six fifty cool.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough value there. But Debbie's got
a hunch yea candem morta. Hey, guys, I watch the
show every day while at work. He loves the show.
He wants our opinion. He's holding a ticket. Ohio State
wins the Natty and plus one eighty five. He says
the line's about to drop to one sixty. Departure of
heartline will it significantly significantly affect the team.
Speaker 2: Joe, Well, if you're not holding an Ohio State ticket,
then you're probably saying, yes, it will. It's gonna be
a bit. No, it won't. It will not affect Ryan
Day or Ohio State. And to your point, Ohio State
wins this game against Indiana. Yeah, that's that ticket you're
holding right now. Gonna be about even money when it's
all said and done to win the national championship. So
there you go.
Speaker 1: So let's race through this. So Nyla writes, I watched
the show from all my phones daily. How many phones
do you think Nyla has? And why would he watch
this show more than once?
Speaker 2: Work the phones island? That's what I'm talking about. Got
appreciate the hustle, press dot appreciate the hustle, Joe.
Speaker 1: Kelly Vincenzo a name that we've seen for years. So Kelly,
thank you, my brother. Yep, he right, So Ohio States.
He believes nineteen out of the last twenty games they've
held their opponents to zero touchdowns in the first half.
Now he believes that it's not a fact. What is
your thoughts there and is there an opportunity to bet
that Indiana under team total in the first half.
Speaker 2: I would look to bet the Indiana team total under
full game as well as twenty one and a half here,
I mean, Ohio State hasn't allowed more than sixteen points
in a game this season, so to his point, when
they have been scoring upon it's generally happened in the
second half here and let's face it, Indiana will be
the best team that Ohio State had face. But if
we're being honest here, Prez, so what this will be
the defense exactly? They will still have their hands full.
So I don't mind it. I don't mind the first
half ornerful game, team total under.
Speaker 1: And then Kelly also writes Art is one of his favorites.
I think there's only three people on the show, one
of I don't know how to take that. Is that
a good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, I mean we got a thirty three
thirty three and a half percent chance that, Yeah, it's
he is.
Speaker 1: One of I agree, he is one of. John Roberts wrote,
John Roberts wrote, such a good what do you have you?
The show? He writes, just a great show. I look
forward to watching it every day. It's not only very informative,
but it's also great entertainment. You guys make it so much.
Run your hilarious thanks, and you know, dude, that's amazing
because it's exactly what the show is trying to achieve.
When you and I spoke about putting the show together,
it was like, how can we give out sports betting
information and laugh the whole way through because so many
of these shows are so dry. So I'm so happy
he got it, and I will end with one last thing. Yes,
Benjamin Asset writes, you still suck pres Yeah.
Speaker 2: Consistent, better than my ex wife DeBie. Debbie