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alluded to it earlier. I didn't just allude to it.
I said it flat out. I said it. Ted Cruz
went on the Tucker Carlson program and highlighting the riff
that has now.
Speaker 1: Erupted among the quote unquote woke.
Speaker 2: Right and MAGA influencers and MAGA voters and the Trump administration.
And so there's this splintering that's been occurring over the
last few months and is now erupted over this issue
of American involvement in Iran or Israel's attack on Iran,
which again like not really sure what we're doing, like
to the extent we are involved, like well, Trump was
informed about it, Okay, yeah, it means Israel trust him
more than they trusted Joe Biden because they wouldn't tell
by the like. After a couple of leaks and stuff
and Biden leaning on Israel not to do stuff against Tamas,
they just quit telling him stuff. They didn't tell them
about the beeper operation against Hasballa, so they obviously feel
more comfortable with Donald Trump, so they're telling Trump some stuff.
So he was aware, He says he was aware of
the operation beforehand. Okay, and they've probably asked about using
the B two bombers to drop bunker busters on Fordel,
which is the enrichment facility in Iran, ninety meters under
a mountain, encased in concrete in order to build nuclear weapons.
That's why you spin the uranium to ninety percent in
the centrifuges to ninety percent enrichment levels so you could
turn it into weapons grade fuel.
Speaker 1: Or payload.
Speaker 2: They've also, you know, Israel's been taken out their ballistic
missile production facilities, their launcher pads and stuff, all with
the aim to make sure that Iran's nuclear program is eliminated.
That's what their efforts been about. And I'm seeing these
people on the right, these influencers on their podcasts and
such that are very, very adamantly opposed to Israel doing this. Now, look,
I'm not saying everybody opposed to what Israel is doing
is an anti Semite. I'm not saying that, although every
anti Semite as opposed to what Israel is doing. So
there is that component and some of the people, some
of these voices on the right are in fact Jew haters.
They are, okay, and I'm not I don't need to
go through and name every single one because I don't
listen to all of their stuff enough to know. But
there's yes there that isn't well. I mean, there's one
I can name. He's an outward Jew hater, Ballzarian, that idiot.
So there's that wing. But then there is also this
other group that seems to engage in the tactics of
the woke left. And this is why they have been
labeled as the quote woke right. It's because they are nationalists,
but also they employ these woke tactics, they cancel opponents
and whatever. Anyway, so this rift has now erupted, and
it erupted after Israel's attacks on Iran. The most notable
one is Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump. Trump called him
Kookie Carlson in a tweet. He said in some press availability,
he was answering some questions and he was asked about
something Tucker Carlson said, and he was like, yeah, Tucker
should get his own TV network and then maybe some
people will listen to him or something, so denigrating Carlson.
Carlson going after Trump, and then Carlson invited Ted Cruz
to come on his show. And I find this to
be just rich, and I'll explain why a couple of
weeks ago, and I played some of this audio a
couple of weeks ago. Douglas Murray, who is a pro
Israel guy, British dude and wrote like the Decline of
the West and stuff, wrote several books and he went
over into Gaza. He was there with the IDF and whatever.
Like I said, pro Israel, and he has been on
the Joe Rogan podcast many, many times alone. Most times
Joe Rogan interviews people alone and they just chat about whatever.
But apparently this last time, when Murray was invited, Rogan
would not allow him to come on unless he had
I guess his emotional support. Comic Dave Smith, who is
a self described libertarian and Dave Smith is anti Israel,
and he frames everything in like the terms of genocide
and Israel is in genocide, they're the evil ones and
all that, and so they had this debate, and very
early in the debate, Smith is going on about the
blockade and they're not getting any food in through the
through the different gates and stuff, and Douglas Murray said, well,
have you ever been there? Except because he's British, he says,
have you ever been there? And he just comes across
as very elitist, right, And so everybody starts arguing afterwards
about how you know, Murray was doing this appeal to expertise,
and that because Dave Smith had never set foot in
Israel or Gaza or I'd never seen the checkpoints, and
I had never seen the you know, the Egyptian walls
and stuff that they've built up in the checkpoints there,
that he should at least, Murray was saying, he should
at least be there. You've been going around, you know,
giving your opinion on this matter for now, you two
years or whatever it's been, and you've never even been there,
You've never talked to people that are living there, and
that would be something that a journalist would do somebody
who is researching a topic, that's something you should do.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have an opinion, which
is what Dave Smith kept trying to reframe it as
Dave Smith, Oh, so now I can't apply on this stuff,
I can't talk about it, And Murray kept saying, I'm
not saying you can't have an opinion on it. I'm
just saying that that would help your opinion be more credible.
But of course all of that was lost, that's all
nuanced and it doesn't matter. So everybody's like, ha haa haa,
Douglas Murray making this appeal to the experts. Oh, that
worked out so well for us in COVID, right, Look
at where the experts got us, right. So there's just
this flat out rejection of expertise on that interview. But
in this interview now, Tucker Carlson asks Ted Cruz data
points about Iran, and Cruz doesn't know the answers, and
this is a gotcha. This is aha. Ted Cruz is ignorant.
He doesn't have the expertise necessary to opine on this matter.
And now you've got the very same people that were
dragging Douglas Murray now defending Tucker Carlson for doing the
exact same thing, the exact same thing, highly ironic. There
are also now reports I've seen floating around that apparently,
And look, my opinion, I used to watch Tucker Carlson.
I used to like Tucker Carlson. I appreciated his arguments.
I don't know what has happened to him, because something
has happened to him, and I don't know what it is.
I'm not saying, like, you know, he sold out or whatever,
although there's stuff floating around that the Kataris paid some money.
They had to report it through the Foreign Agent Registry
Act the FARA requirements that they did pay for They
did pay him to arrange an interview with like the
Katari Prime minister or something. And I don't know any
of the details about that, but things, for me, my
opinion of Carlson shifted when I saw him doing the
show from Moscow and he's walking through the grocery stores.
Oh my gosh, look at all of this bread. Oh
it's fantastic. Oh they got this. Oh McDonald's. They have McDonald's.
The streets are so clean here, Holy Cow. And that's odd,
that's almost that's like a Hanoi Jane kind of kind
of move. And I'm not sure what to make of that,
and so I just like, now, I just I pulled
the plug, like I'm not watching anything that guy does
anymore because I can't trust him.
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's running some sort of a
game or a sy op or something, I don't know.
So he invites Ted Cruz on. I've got some sound bites,
we got some calls, we got Jerry and Dave. We'll
get to you all up next. All right, if you're
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speak with Jerry. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3: Hello Jerry, Hey Pete.
Speaker 4: So three things, Tucker Carlson, Congressional Republicans and Yaffo Middle
Eastern saff Casual. So that's the easiest one. YAPO, which
is an awesome Middle Eastern SAFT casual restaurant that's currently
in South Park and Dilworth is open. And Balanine woooo
so excited about that. I was thrilled to hear you,
hear what you said about Tucker Carlson. I don't know
what the hell's happened to him, but he has gone
right over the edge and frankly I think part of it,
in my opinion, is that he now from the subscriptions
and I canceled my subscription and everything. I think he
has so much fu money that he just doesn't he
doesn't care anymore. He's just I don't. I don't know
what it is, And frankly, I don't really care, because
I would I wouldn't give him the time of day anymore.
But I think I think part of it is when
you get to the point where you have so much
money that you can do and say whatever you want
and the ramifications don't really impact you. I think that's
part of it, at least part of it. Congressional Republicans
every day. I'm surprised that the fact that I can
even loathe them more than I did the day before,
this idiot lawler from New York about the Sault eductions.
And then of course we have you know, we have
a Massy, and then you have Lindsey And why can't
the people in South Carolina just kind of get it
together and vote for some saner people, you know? And
the bottom line for me is, we never ever ever
see Democrats do this kind of crap. Never, And I
think all.
Speaker 1: The crazy well you do, Jerry, So all right, you do.
Speaker 2: Look at John Fetterman, righte, Richie Torres, right, I mean
you do have some of them breaking ranks.
Speaker 4: I don't really count Fedterman, bless his heart, hope he's well,
don't really count him.
Speaker 1: Well that's not.
Speaker 2: Fair, though, because you can't say Democrats don't ever do
it and then say I don't count the guy that
That is the example of a Democrat doing it, and
Richie Torres has done it too on Israel. This is
one of the I think it's one of the I
think it's one of the traps that both Democrats and
Republicans fall into. They think that the other party is
way better at the game than they are, Like, we're
in disarray all the time, but they got their stuff together.
Democrats say the same thing about Republicans that Republicans say
about Democrats.
Speaker 4: Well, Democrats say a lot of things, two things very quickly,
and I'll let you move on. You're right, I shouldn't
discount betterman, but but I think we overall. And my
point being that they that they don't break, they hold ranks.
That's that's how I should have phrased it.
Speaker 5: Cat.
Speaker 4: Let's look have to give him credit regardless of whatever's
going on with him, he has been brave enough to
book the Democrat trend.
Speaker 1: As and as has Richie Torres well, and my.
Speaker 4: Frankly, I haven't paid as much to Richie in Congress.
My hope, and even though I'm a Republican, my hope
is that Richie would return to New York and run
for mayor, which I wish he would spend this time,
and then run and then run for governor, because I
think he would be phenomenal in a state that will
probably never vote for Republicans in either of those offices.
I don't know how what kind of chances the least
sephonic has. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan
of Richie Torres. But overall my thought was, and I
should have said it better, Democrats rarely, rarely ever break ranks,
and Republicans always throws things to the wind and the sky.
Lawler from New York, who cares if everybody gets hit
with a sixty seven billion dollar tax increase?
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna torpedo the bill because of the salt deductions.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, no, I got you. I agree, Jerry,
I appreciate the call. Thank you very much. No, it's
good to hear from you. Let me get Dave on
here before the bottom of the hour news. Hello, Dave,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hey, the thanks. I'll talk a little bit slower than
Jerry anyway. Hey, I just want to make sure y'all
are aware. I know that everybody in Waxaw knows, and
because i'm this is day from Waxaw, and I know
that a good number of Union County knows. But I
want to make sure an all of Union County, and
for that matter, if she's stoopid enough to even try
to run for statewide office, your poster chalk for this
woke right name is the old lady by the name
of well, I shouldn't say lady, but anyway, it's female
by the name of Tracy Wesseling. And Tracy has gone
off the rails. Even just when you think she couldn't
do anything more crazy, she posts a picture of herself
over the weekend during the No Kings sitting on a
throne and saying off with his head, okay about Trump
that kind of stuff, Yeah, of course, about Trump.
Speaker 1: And she's she's on the woke right.
Speaker 5: She's she's she is. First of all, I think woke
ride is an oxymon. It's not if you're woke, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not right describes the tax.
Speaker 5: But the way we the way we call it in
the hood, we talked talk about this in the liud.
We have an expression you ain't right. So if you woke,
you ain't right. And there's no such thing. And she
has had just begun to attack.
Speaker 2: Who is she is this person running for office or
in elected office?
Speaker 5: She is she is a Waxaw commissioner, saying to be
a former commissioner on November four of the twenty twenty
five if she dares to run and waste her ten bucks.
But anyway, so.
Speaker 2: She was like Maga. She was a Maga supporter, and now.
Speaker 5: She's I think she was a snake from the very
beginning to shet. Anybody in Union County knows that you
got to have an R by your name to get elected, right,
and and so that's all she did. She was able
to to. She tried to get a Democrat poster child
named Michael Avola into one of our wonderful private Facebook
groups that we have in Union County Conservative group. She
tried to get him in there, and the late Great
stoney Rushing County Commission, Union County Mission. Stoney Rushing called
her up shore owned and exposed her, and she's been
spiraling down hill ever since. That was about two years ago.
Speaker 2: Now, Dave, I appreciate, appreciate, Yeah, man, I appreciate the call.
Thank you, sir. I don't know anything about the story
he just described. But this is one of the things
about the quote woke right is that a lot of
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me get to some some of these clips. All I
have are clips because the Tucker Carlson interview with Senator
Ted Cruz dropped at some point within the last I
guess ninety minutes or so.
Speaker 1: I've not seen it. I don't know if I'll even
give the guy a view.
Speaker 2: But this is what the Carlson camp sent out to
promote the interview, and they did so as a gotcha like,
look at this, We made him squirm.
Speaker 1: Haha.
Speaker 2: Take that, Ted Cruz. And here's the exchange that the
Tucker Carlson operation sent out. And Tucker Carlson posted himself
on his Twitter feed.
Speaker 6: How many people living around?
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know the population at all. No,
I don't know the population.
Speaker 6: You don't know the population of the country. You seek
to topple?
Speaker 3: How many people living around?
Speaker 6: Ninety two million?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 6: How could you not know that?
Speaker 3: I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
overthrow of the government.
Speaker 8: Why is it real event, whether it's will because ninety
million or eighty million or one hundred million, Because if
you don't know anything about the country, you didn't say
I don't know anything about Okay, what's the ethnic mix
of Wrong?
Speaker 3: They are Persians and well presuminantly Shia.
Speaker 6: Okay, No, he's not even you don't know anything about Iran?
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm not the Tucker Carlson on Iran.
Speaker 2: Okay, hang on second, So that reference that he made
right there, the Tucker Carlson expert, I think that's a
reference to the quote unquote historian the best historian ever
on World War Two that said Winston Churchill was the
main villain of World War Two.
Speaker 1: That guy.
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson has been platforming some pretty weird guests, okay,
and they all seem to have a certain level of
jew hatred. I'm just just pointing out what I think
is pretty obvious. Guys platform Jeffrey Sachs multiple times, so whatever,
Like so this is where he goes with Ted Kruz,
what's the population? This is like what they did to
George W. Bush, remember when they were asking him the
capitals of various countries, what's the capital of Pakistan or something.
Speaker 1: When he was running for president.
Speaker 2: And because Ted Cruz doesn't know the population of Iran,
which is about ninety million, and because he doesn't know
the exact breakdown because when he asked, what's the ethnic
breakdown of Iran? And what did Ted Cruz just say?
He said they're mostly Persian? And what does Carlson just
follow up with? Immediately talks over him and says, what percentage?
What percentage you want you expect me to know the
percentages of the ethnic composition of Iran, which is sixty
one percent Persian. Next up is the azerbaijanis sixteen percent,
Kurds ten percent, and then every other ethnic group is
at like single digits four percent in below. So it's
mainly Persian. So he is correct. Ted Cruz was correct,
but then he then Carlson follows up with give me
the population breakdown by ethnicity and the percentages. I don't
even know what this is. I do know what this is.
Speaker 6: Who's calling there.
Speaker 8: The one about the country, ain't. No, you don't know
anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're
not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: Who can't figure out to say, General SOLMONI.
Speaker 6: You believe they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 7: Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them
in retaliation.
Speaker 8: And if they really believe that carrying out military strikes.
Today said Israel was right with our help. I've said
we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well,
this you're breaking news here, because.
Speaker 2: He's actually not breaking news because the we have resupplied
their iron dome munitions. We are in a support role.
And what Carlson is trying to do here is to
make it sound like we're flying side by side with
the Israelis or something or where, like we've got teams
on the ground, you know, painting the targets for them
to drop bombs on.
Speaker 1: Like this is just bizarre behavior for Carlson.
Speaker 7: The US government last night denied the National Security Council
spokesman Alex Fiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we
were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.
Speaker 3: We're not bombing then Israel's bombing then.
Speaker 2: Right in any offensive capacity. So he just twisted what
Cruz said. This was the clip that Carlson sent out
thinking this made him look good and Cruse look bad.
Speaker 3: You just said we were we are supporting as I stakes.
Speaker 6: You're a senator.
Speaker 7: If you're saying the United States government is now, we're
with a run right now, people are listening.
Speaker 2: To be more clear, even though I'm twisting everything you're saying,
I'm not letting you say it. You don't know anything
about Iran. He does know about Iran. By the way,
when Trump whacked solo money, remember that first term, MAGA.
Speaker 1: Was totally fine with it.
Speaker 2: But now that Israel is doing the rest of the job,
now all of a sudden, there's this big gnashing of
teeth and no, they're going to drag us into war
and all of this. Wouldn't you think us taking out
the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard? Do you think
that would have been more of a provocation than letting
Israel do this again. It's almost as if there's something
about the fact that it's the Israeli's doing it. Israeli
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I got one more clip of Tucker Carlson and Ted
Cruz on his show today, and this is about the
Masade spying on the American government.
Speaker 6: Does Masade share all of his intelligence with us?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 8: Probably not, but they share a lot. We don't share
all of our intelligence with them, but we share a lot.
It's a close a lot.
Speaker 6: Do they spy domestically the United States?
Speaker 8: Oh, they probably do, and we do as well. And
friends and allies spy on each other and I do.
Why assume all of our allies spy on us? That's
okay with you?
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 8: One of the things about being a conservative is that
you're not naive and utopian. You don't think humans are all.
Part of the reason socialism doesn't work is is the
mantra for each according to his abilities, to each according
to his needs doesn't work. As a conservative, I assume
people act in their rational self interest.
Speaker 6: It's why to pay people to spy on you.
Speaker 8: It's conservative to recognize that human beings act to their
own self interests. And every one of our friends spies
on us, and I'm not do you like it?
Speaker 7: That's my question. I'm not asking whether they have motive
to do it. Of course they do. I understand that.
And I and by the way, I'm mad at that
you're an American wanmaker.
Speaker 6: So I just want to I want to know your attitude.
Speaker 7: You said that you're guiding principle, in fact, the only principle,
the only criterion.
Speaker 8: I said, guiding the overwhelming. I wouldn't say only. Is
it an America's interest?
Speaker 7: Is it an America's interest for Israel to spy on us,
including on the president?
Speaker 8: It is an America's interest to be closely allied with Israel?
Speaker 2: Because that's not it? Is it in America's interest to
share information with the massade? And is that outweighed by
the fact that they are going to spy on us?
And also, do you think that if we don't share
intel with them, that they stop spying on us, or
will they continue spying on us again? Like this is
what Carlson is doing, is trying to make the Israeli
seem like they are particularly out of step for nefarious reasons.
Then every other nation on the planet that attempts to
do spona against America, including our allies, which by the way,
we do against our allies because they don't tell us
everything either, and we don't tell them everything.
Speaker 8: We get huge benefits for it. And you want to
see the cleric.
Speaker 7: But I just want to stop on the spine for
a second. That it takes place, as you know, and
including on the President of the United States and several precedents,
and I just want to know if that's okay, and
why is it okay? Wouldn't an American lawmaker say to
a client state, you're not allowed to spy on us.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I know why you want to.
Speaker 7: I'm not mad at you, but you're not allowed to, sure,
And I don't care for it.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be spot on by you.
Speaker 7: Is that it's kind of weird not to say that,
but you don't seem able to say that.
Speaker 2: And then he stops right there, So we don't hear
what Crew said. So does Ted Cruz like it? No?
Speaker 1: No, Aloey's gonna say, Oh yes, I love being spied on.
Speaker 2: What a stupid question. There it is again, there are
stupid questions. Tucker is playing a game here, and the
game is the Jews. That's what this tells me. That's
what these clips that he pushed out there for red
meat for his base that's listening to his podcast on
the regular, it all falls in that same sort of category.
That's what it tells me. I may tell you something different,
but that's what it tells me. And here's a write
up from a guy named Entropian. He says, when making decisions,
we usually seek out relevant information to help us make
that decision. The population of Iran is not one of
those things that would have helped Ted Cruz arrive at
his current stance. If it were, perhaps hearing the statistic
would have given him pause, but it didn't. It changed
nothing because it wasn't important. The only reason anybody wishes
he had known the answer was to have stopped Tucker's
gotcha question in its tracks, which, by the way, it
would not have because Tucker would have hopped to a
couple other factoids that he had lined up, like the
ethnic makeup, and he did exactly that. Perhaps then he
would have moved to GDP industrial production capacity or any
other data point. We should expect our leaders to know
data that is relevant to their decisions. We should not
expect our leaders to humor bad faith interview questions. Let
me get to some messages, Dennis says Rush Limbaugh tagged
Tucker Carlson with the nickname Chatsworth Osborne Junior, which is
a reference to the old Dobe Gills TV show by
which there was a friend of Doobie's who was a
complete spoiled mom boy. Brad Rush hit the nail on
the head. I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me see.
Speaker 2: Let's take in a second to load the uh load
the emails now. For some reason, not sure why, tim
Oteo says, I admit I have been vacillating on what
Trump should do. It seems so simple to just take
out fourdoh with our bunker busters. It's so tempting. But
in war, all repercussions cannot be seen before they happen.
What I know for sure, however, is that if Israel
is allowed to eliminate that forcility, they will do it.
We just need to provide support since we supposedly have
complete air superiority. What I would like to see is
Trump sending over a fleet of C one thirties to
drop palettes of aid packages to the Iranian people that
include pamphlets assuring the Iranian people that Israel is only
going to dismantle the nuclear program. Ted Cruz was probably
taken off guard because he was expecting a rational discussion
and got hyperbolic lunacy instead. If I could have answered
for him, that answer would have been I don't know
Iran's population, but I know the population of the US,
and I want to keep it that way. That would
be in a good response. And John says, thank you
for calling it exactly what it is. Anti Semitism is
a word played by the haters to muddy the waters.
It is jew hatred. Yeah, all right, that'll do it
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