1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,919 in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world. 3 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:23,440 Hi everyone, welcome to trans Dimensional Realities here on the 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Paranormal UK Radio Network, where we talk about all things 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,559 strange and unusual that happen in our everyday lives and 6 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:36,679 lie outside our perspective of reality. I'm your host, Melissa Lee, 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,200 and I know we were off the last couple of weeks, 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,079 so I have brand new guests today, and we have 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,520 guests lined up through February going into March, so we're 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 going to be right back on schedule. And I want 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,560 to introduce our guest today. His name is Tim Malone. Now, 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Tim has written a book about his personal experiences called 13 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:03,119 Behind the Veil, One Man's Journey from Opioid addiction to 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,159 spirituality and beyond. This is going to be an exciting conversation, 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,480 so let's welcome Tim to the program. 16 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: How are you, Tim, I'm doing well, Melissa, Thank you 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,400 for having me on your show. 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on. I am fascinated about 19 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:22,480 your story and your new book which I introduced, So 20 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:25,799 I would just say, if you want to start telling 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,319 us what happened to you, what started you on this 22 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:31,519 journey and your experiences. 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,719 Speaker 2: Sure, I'd be happy to The book is Behind the Veil, 24 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:40,040 and it's available on Amazon, Barnes, and Noble, everywhere you 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:46,799 can get books. I was a businessman still i am. 26 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:50,640 I own a company, a staffing company in Kentucky. My 27 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,439 brother and I are partners. It was our fathers. So 28 00:01:54,159 --> 00:02:00,519 up until my late fifties, I didn't go to church. 29 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:04,239 I didn't do anything spiritual at all. I had no 30 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:10,599 connection to meditation or retreats or anything. And then when 31 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,400 I got divorced in two thousand, everybody was worried about 32 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:19,560 me getting into some type of addiction and I said, oh, 33 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:23,800 never will, I'll I'm okay. Well it was the classic. 34 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,400 I wasn't okay because I started taking hydro codone that 35 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:30,759 a so called friend gave me that with a beer. 36 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,080 I loved it. I mean, I thought hydro codone was 37 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:38,879 the greatest drug of all time. And so within the 38 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 next year or two I became very addicted. 39 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:46,479 Speaker 1: Can I ask if you everyone was concerned about you, 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,840 do you think it was you had an addictive personality? 41 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I think as I look at this incarnation 42 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,840 and I look at all the things that I did, 43 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,439 some of which aren't in the book, that are very 44 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:04,439 unflattering too. I had a very addictive personality, Melissa. 45 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:06,319 Speaker 1: Wow. 46 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: So what happened then, Well, I started taking a lot 47 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,960 of pills, and at the peak, I would get up 48 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,240 in the morning and drink a MIC's ard lemonade and 49 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:20,919 take two hydro codone and go to work. And by 50 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,120 the end of the day when I went to bed, 51 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:28,439 I'd taken fourteen and taken to ambien to try to sleep, 52 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:32,960 which ambient and hydro codone should have killed me. And 53 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,919 I think I almost died once, as I remember. But 54 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:43,000 so I was in a really really bad spot. And 55 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:45,400 then all of a sudden, out of the blue, my 56 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:47,719 wife and I new wife had an agreement that we 57 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:52,919 wouldn't buy a dog. But one day I showed up 58 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,319 after on a Sunday after being on a camping trip, 59 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,280 and there was a dog. And I told my wife, 60 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:00,360 I told you not to buy a dog. Goes Well, 61 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,639 I did anyway, and I said, Okay, then I get 62 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:05,240 to name the dog, and I'm going to call the 63 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,759 dog Booboo, because you weren't supposed to buy the dog. 64 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,479 And so that's how the name Booboo, and that's the 65 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,399 dog on the cover of the book too. So as 66 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,879 you'll read in the book, the dog becomes a very 67 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,839 important part of my recovery. I really connected with the dog. 68 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,040 I started walking the dog not once a day, but 69 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,079 twice three times on the weekends. My health started getting better. 70 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:38,160 And then along on these walks, I started getting nudges 71 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:47,560 of just strange things happening and finding different things along 72 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,680 with these paths that now I realize we're nudges to 73 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,199 push me into a more spiritual path. 74 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:03,199 Speaker 1: What pushed you to finally take steps towards recovery. 75 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:11,639 Speaker 2: Well, I had relapsed three times and my life was crap, 76 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:20,079 and I think I think I hit rock bottom, and 77 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,879 I thought, like I said, I had one night that 78 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,600 I think I had a dream of vision that I 79 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:29,199 was dying, and I probably was, because that's when people 80 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,360 die when they take drugs, a lot of times when 81 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:38,439 you do the hydrocodone with like an ambient type pill. 82 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:44,680 So I found a really good addiction doctor and along 83 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,600 with the exercise with the dogdiction doctor, in three years 84 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:53,800 of therapy, I kicked the habit. And so at that 85 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:57,600 point in my life still love my dog kick the habit. 86 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:01,240 I'm really feeling good. But then my daughters came to 87 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,480 me and said, Dad, I think you need to go 88 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,240 see this other counselor, which ended up being a lady 89 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,439 named Ronda Etherton, and she was a mystic and she 90 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,800 had a group of three or four people that met 91 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,279 and they did mystical things. So I said, all right, 92 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,959 I'll meet with them and I'll never forget being with her. 93 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,959 In one session, when we would talk about our lives 94 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,879 in our days, then we'd you know, go into meditation. 95 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:33,920 Then then we got out of it, we'd all say, 96 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,480 here's what I saw. I'll never forget. The day that 97 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,920 we got out of the meditation, Ronna got up, she 98 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:42,120 walked over and grabbed a book from her bookshelf and 99 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,120 she gave it to me. She goes, they told me 100 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,000 to give you this book, and it was Ramtha. I 101 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,199 don't know if you've ever read Ramptha the White No, 102 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,000 I have no, but it was life changing when I 103 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,759 read it. It was the story of this mystical being 104 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:02,399 a higher energy. I don't know if he was an 105 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:07,560 angel or archangel, but reincarnated and that's this whole story 106 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,240 of the afterlife. And what happens to you? And I 107 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:16,399 became fascinated Melissa. I kept going to Ronda. I had 108 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:19,879 another lady that was doing massages for me that was 109 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:23,160 also a mystic. And I started hearing twinkling bells when 110 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,120 we were together during the massages, like twinkling bells coming 111 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,040 out of nowhere. 112 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:30,519 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I'd. 113 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:34,959 Speaker 2: Say, you know. I'd be like, did you hear that? 114 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,319 And she'd say, yeah, I heard it, did you? I 115 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:42,319 said yeah. And she also had premonitions about the future. 116 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:44,120 She could see things, and a couple of times she 117 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:47,480 warned me about car wrecks and things that I should 118 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:54,680 avoid in situations. So I had two different mystical groups going. 119 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,759 I was devouring books at a high rate of any 120 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,079 mystical topics. I mean, in my book, I list all 121 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,160 these books beginner, meetyat intermediate, and I list all these 122 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,800 different books I recommend. But I was getting in Dinah Cooper, 123 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:17,399 I was reading about orbs, I was reading about archangels. 124 00:08:17,439 --> 00:08:21,480 I was reading about Ask Your Guides by Sylvia Croquette, 125 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,040 which is a great book, and I started looking for 126 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:31,079 places to meditate. I just had this feeling, and as 127 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:34,480 I look back on it, they the Holy Ones were 128 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,799 trying to push me somewhere. You know. First of all, 129 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:40,840 they had to save me for read there was a 130 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:45,240 reason they saved me, as I find out now. Then 131 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 they had to get me up to speed. So I'm 132 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,519 in my early sixties. They had to get me up 133 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:57,639 to speak very quickly on the mystical world and religions 134 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:02,519 and how they interact, and Buddhism and all the different 135 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,879 major religions and just a crash course and understanding the 136 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,559 whole world of mysticism and where mystics fit into life, 137 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 and where the angels and the universe fit in and 138 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,480 what it is. And I started forming opinions from all 139 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:27,799 this reading. So that takes me to the point where 140 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:33,279 my dog died. It was in July of twenty twenty 141 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,799 COVID year, as you remember, what an awful year. And 142 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,360 then my dog dies. I mean I really believed the 143 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,799 dog was sent by the Holy Ones to save me, 144 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,720 and he did. And when he died, I knew a 145 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,679 little bit about Orbs. I'd read Diana Cooper and Kathy 146 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,039 Crosswell's book Ascension through Orbs, and so when she died, 147 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,440 I was crying and I asked the universe. I said, 148 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,879 would you please let my dogs stay here? And that 149 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:08,440 night I took my iPhone and I started taking pictures 150 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,000 in my yard at night. First of all, I took 151 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:15,919 a picture of my dead dog on its blanket, and 152 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,879 there's an orb that I saw the next day. Next day, 153 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:21,200 I came to work like I am now and downloaded 154 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,799 all my pictures that I took that night, and there 155 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,799 was an ORB ball with my dog that had passed 156 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:30,240 a green orb. Still have the picture that's in the book. 157 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,279 Then I look at the other pictures and I couldn't 158 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,799 believe it. There are orbs in my yard, and my 159 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:42,960 dog's face is in the orbs dogs, yes, or my 160 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:48,200 dog's face is riding them. You see a bright orb 161 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,279 and you see my dog's face on top of it, 162 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,840 my dog's face in the middle. And that gave me 163 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:05,279 such comfort, that couple things. One that my dog soul 164 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,759 was still here in spirit form, and that when you die, 165 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:15,799 it's not all over. I didn't really know what happened 166 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:20,240 when you died. I was very fearful of it, and 167 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,399 it made me realize there is something greater out there, 168 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:29,600 greater than us, Melissa, And so I became a fanatic 169 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,879 about taking pictures of orbs. Every night. I'd go out 170 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:38,919 after dinner and I'd take pictures and video and they 171 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:45,080 started developing brighter colors. And one night, I accidentally, this 172 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,399 is about a year later, twenty twenty one, twenty two, 173 00:11:49,879 --> 00:11:53,840 I was taking these videos of orbs in the backflashing, 174 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,159 and I focused on a light of a house because 175 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:00,120 I thought that was an ORB. And what I I 176 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,600 saw in the light on the house were people in 177 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,600 the light. And so now I find out what that 178 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,600 was is they the Holy ones, are using the light 179 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:17,879 from a house to amplify their power to show me things. 180 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: Hm. 181 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: And so I started getting really scared. 182 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:32,759 Speaker 1: Because, well, you're seeing all these strange things. I wanted 183 00:12:32,799 --> 00:12:35,840 to comment because there's a lot of controversy about orbs, 184 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:42,000 a lot of researchers to dismiss them as dust. And 185 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,440 I don't know, if you know, I'm a longtime researcher 186 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,360 over twenty years, and yeah, while a lot of orbs 187 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,519 are dust, a lot are not. Depends on how far 188 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,000 away they seem to be from the camera lens and 189 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:57,519 the light, and if they're doing very strange things like 190 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,600 showing you your dog's face, yes, that is definitely. 191 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Not dust, Melissa, I couldn't agree with you more. I 192 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:13,759 consider orbed spirit emanations and the example I like to 193 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:21,600 give people is an orb business spirit emanation. And my 194 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,480 example is if you're flying on a plane at night 195 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:27,480 and you have a window seat and it's dark, and 196 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,480 you look down on you know, the ground wherever you're flying, 197 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:33,879 and you see a road and you see two lights. 198 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,799 You intuitively know those two lights are a car or 199 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,840 a bus. You also know there's somebody driving it. And 200 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,879 that's exactly what an orb is. An orb is as 201 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:52,000 spirit emanation. It is being driven by a spirit entity, 202 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:57,519 whether it's angels, archangels, uh and and they're they're holding 203 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,320 souls that are passing their holy souls that have been 204 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,320 in car wrecks, whatever it is. I like to consider 205 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,600 orbs the transportation of the spirit world. 206 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, I've taken photos myself in the past that have 207 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,519 absolute clear faces in them, Yeah, that are not paradoilia 208 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,960 or what people call matrixing, very clear. And if you 209 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,000 think about it with orbs, what does an orb It's 210 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,519 a form of energy, and most energy, like a lot 211 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:37,679 of things in the universe, are around around ball of light, 212 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,639 which in my opinion, I think is really what we 213 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,799 are just inhabiting these meat suits. But the spiritual energy 214 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:51,240 usually does come in the form of orbs. 215 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: Yes, it does. And as I got deeper and deeper 216 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,200 into it, I'd spent a couple months backing off when 217 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,240 I saw people in the orbs because I was scared. 218 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,559 I was like, have I opened the door to something 219 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:10,919 that I shouldn't. But then I just started taking more 220 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:16,039 video and then over the next year to two, you 221 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,679 got to remember, I'm taking thousands of snips from videos 222 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,840 and videos. Every night. My wife's like, you're going out again. 223 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:25,440 It's ten degrees, Yeah, I'm going out. I was just 224 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:30,879 fascinated about why are they showing me things? What are 225 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:35,159 they showing me? And what I did when I at 226 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:38,759 this point, I would say I was very becoming a 227 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,480 very good mystic, and I had my grounding down and 228 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,320 I could meditate. I was still devouring books. But I 229 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:50,200 wanted to find out what this is all about. Why 230 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,639 are they showing me things? So I started asking them 231 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:56,559 at my three o'clock meditation every day that I do 232 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:01,120 can I see Master Babbage? Or will you show me 233 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Archangel Michael? And at night they would show me these 234 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:12,480 people these entities in the orbs, and I was like this, 235 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:16,519 what but what? But why are they showing me? And 236 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:20,600 there was a lady with black hair in every single 237 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:21,320 one of these. 238 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,799 Speaker 1: Were you able to see faces? 239 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 240 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,519 Speaker 1: Really? Okay, because people report not being able to see 241 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:32,279 faces but they could see the figures. 242 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:40,159 Speaker 2: Well, that's great comment. So when I show people, for instance, 243 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,559 behind me, those are pictures of two orbs, you may 244 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,320 not be able to see him really well. But the 245 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:52,480 lady with dark hair is up. He's like right. 246 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Here, okay, okay, and. 247 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: She's holding actually she's holding me my energy because I 248 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 in the picture above that I'm in the orb. My 249 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:08,319 face is there, so we're sharing consciousness. They're showing me 250 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:15,799 the things I asked to see. And then this lady 251 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:19,599 with the dark hair kept showing up, and I kept wondering, 252 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:23,279 why are they showing me these things? What's the purpose 253 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,759 of all this? And I'm sorry, what was your question again? 254 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:29,799 We were talking about I was talking. 255 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: About faces, Uh, being able to see figures, but sometimes 256 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,079 faces are unclear. 257 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: Well that's the big thing. So when we talk about 258 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,400 orbs that are real, you know, there's lens, flair, there's dust. 259 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:47,680 Even though when people are just getting into orbs, and 260 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,279 they show me a picture and I'm like, look at 261 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:52,319 that beautiful orb below the sun. I'm like, okay, I 262 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:55,720 know it's lens flair. Yeah, I'm not ruin their excitement 263 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,599 for a spiritually transformative event, STEI call them okay, but 264 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:06,680 the face is So here's my example. If I show 265 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,160 I'm at a gym and I work out three times 266 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,799 a week, and there's ladies there, and I said, let 267 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:14,440 me bring you pictures of some of my works. So 268 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,759 I bring them a picture. I clearly see the face, 269 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,359 like in this one of the lady with the black 270 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,680 hair holding her heads tilted holding somebody. It's as clear 271 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,160 as day. I can show that same picture to three 272 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:32,720 different people. One of them is going to say, I 273 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:35,359 see exactly what you're saying. One of them's going to say, 274 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,000 show me, oh okay, I kind of see it now, 275 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:41,440 and one of them is going to be I don't 276 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,920 see anything. I just see blobs of color. And so 277 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:48,960 what the truth is is that it depends on a 278 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,400 person's spiritual advancement as to what they can see what 279 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:55,400 they can't see. 280 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,599 Speaker 1: Everyone's different. Yeah, again a skeptic, which is scratch that up. 281 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,640 To paradolia. Now, the mind will see what it wants 282 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,559 to see, especially if you give them a suggestion. But 283 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,480 I agree with you. I think some people are meant 284 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:13,799 to see some things. Other people just aren't there yet. 285 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: Well, and as you go down the path, like I 286 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,519 know you have with your twenty years of research and 287 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,400 being a mystic, if that's your primary thing, you're revealed 288 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,799 more things as you go down the path and as 289 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:32,519 you develop, And that's exactly what was happening with me. 290 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,400 They started showing me more intricate things. They started showing 291 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,119 me pictures of aliens that would show up, and I 292 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,359 considered these orbs like a stage. So here's the stage 293 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,880 that they've created, and they're trying. The Holy Ones are 294 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,519 trying to show me something. They're not just sending me 295 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,079 random pictures. There's a message, a lesson they want to 296 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,400 teach me, or a ask me to do something. So 297 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:08,119 the stage. Their job is to create images that will 298 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,720 help me understand what I'm seeing. And they did that 299 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,720 early on, very brilliantly. When I started seeing different types 300 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,359 of angels in different settings. 301 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. My background isn't so much in mysticism, is 302 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,400 spirituality paranormal spirituality and looking at And this is why 303 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,039 I love having you on the show, because we're talking 304 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:40,119 about things that everyone has their own view of reality. 305 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:46,079 Major most of society has this straight view of reality 306 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,240 that we've been taught. And there are those things that 307 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,079 happen that are beyond our perspective of reality, and this 308 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,160 is definitely one of those that this type of manifestation 309 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,640 that is happening all around us and it's a part 310 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,440 of us. 311 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: You're exactly right, Melissa. And there's this new golden age 312 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:14,160 that we're entering. We've started a new nine year period. 313 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:20,720 We've come from Pisces, we've gone, we're going into and 314 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:26,079 it's February, the aquarium age of nine years. And what 315 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,200 this new golden age means for us on the spiritual 316 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,400 mystic side is they're clearing. So the Earth is third dimension, 317 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:41,640 fourth dimension is where you start connecting to your higher self. 318 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:47,200 Fifth dimension is collaborating with different angels, and sixth is 319 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,480 actually co creating the sixth and seventh. And what they're 320 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:58,400 doing for the Earth now is they're clearing the third 321 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,759 energy that's heavy and trying to make it easier for 322 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,799 people to connect to something greater. So that's why you're 323 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:12,960 seeing more people take pictures of orbs, you're seeing more phenomenon. 324 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,960 It's because they're opening the door to help humans gain 325 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:21,519 access to these beautiful things that you and I know 326 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,960 and feel or see. 327 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Here's an interesting question for you, and again this shows 328 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,440 not political in anyway. I don't want to talk about politics, 329 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,200 but there's a lot of strife going on in the 330 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,480 world right now, especially in this country. And I have 331 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,119 heard this talk about us moving forward, advancing out of 332 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,000 the third dimension to the fifth dimension or beyond, and 333 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,880 yet it seems like there's so many people are so 334 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:58,960 divided it I wonder how we're ever going to get there, 335 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,319 because it doesn't seem to be relaxing anytime soon. 336 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,799 Speaker 2: Well, the Holy Ones have told me, because part of 337 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:12,799 my incarnation is to help usher in this new golden 338 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:16,480 age from the ground. But they've told me that we'll 339 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:20,880 have a couple more years of strife, two to three years, 340 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:25,920 and then gradually you'll start seeing a kinder, gentler world 341 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:31,680 start developing, and ultimately that's where will end up. They're 342 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,200 working behind the scenes to make that happen. You know, 343 00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:38,920 love is the currency. On the other side, and if 344 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,359 you if in the way I prove, can prove what 345 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,200 I What I'm saying is that if what I'm saying 346 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:50,759 is true and what you know is true about the 347 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:55,920 Holy Ones or the universe, how brilliant are they to 348 00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:59,279 be able to run it all and control it all 349 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,680 and taking souls that move from the Earth and sending 350 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,400 them on these spiritual paths the different mansion worlds. If 351 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,079 they can do that, they can take this free will 352 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,559 planet of ours and they can start making changes that 353 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,960 will enhance the lives of people here and make it 354 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,880 a kind or gentler place, is what I believe. 355 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: With that being said, where does free will fall into it? 356 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,079 Speaker 2: Free will, as you know, Melissa, is a tough one. 357 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,440 So there are planets in the universe that are not 358 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:42,359 free will, and they were, they're spiritually crafted, they're spiritually pure. 359 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:48,400 But souls on our journey and our karma like to 360 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,039 reincarnate on planets where we can experience a lot of things. 361 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,559 And so most of my incarnations have been on Earth. 362 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,480 And because it's a it's a free will planet, so 363 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:06,359 good things can happen, bad things can happen to good people. 364 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:13,279 You have the free will to do a lot of 365 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,559 things that can affect your karma, But souls pick to 366 00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:24,400 come back to this planet because you can experience sorrow 367 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,519 and joy and a broken heart or the death of 368 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:33,680 a family member. And free will does horrible things to 369 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,519 people too, with wars and the killings, and look what 370 00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:43,519 people have done with assassinations in those things. But I 371 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:48,559 think when we talk about free will, it's hard for 372 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,440 us to understand each person's soul's path. And so of 373 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:59,720 course there is retribution for those that really do bad things. 374 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,440 But all they want from us is for you to 375 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:08,880 be on a spiritual path, and all that means is 376 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,359 just loving yourself, loving other people, being a good person. 377 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,240 It doesn't mean you have to belong to a religion, 378 00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,440 it doesn't mean you have to follow anything other than 379 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,240 just being a good soul, being a good person to people. 380 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,880 That's what they want on this free will planet. So sometimes, 381 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,160 like my brother's daughter committed suicide eight years ago, thirteen, 382 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,960 that's terrible that it was horrible bullying in school, But 383 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,480 it's hard to understand sometimes the soul's reason. It's here 384 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,920 in the soul's path, which all comes clear as soon 385 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,599 as you pass, and it all. 386 00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: Is revealed well, here's where we can try to make 387 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,440 a good argument for people who are totally atheist that 388 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:07,640 they look at and again they're coming from talking about 389 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440 Christianity or organized religion, but they say, what kind of 390 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,799 God would make like a child suffer from cancer and die? 391 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,160 What would cause somebody to be horribly abused? Why would 392 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,000 God allow things that are happening in the world today? 393 00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,920 And they choose that as well, Your God really isn't loving, 394 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,880 and you know, that's why I won't believe in him. 395 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,640 I don't believe he exists. And yet, as what you're saying, 396 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,960 and I'd like you to expand on that, is that 397 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,680 we are here for specific reasons and experiences, and some 398 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,599 of those experiences to us in this incarnation might seem horrible, 399 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,079 and yet it's a learning experience for us. Now people say, 400 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,480 why would I want to learn that? Well, right now 401 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,759 it sucks, but you but when you pass and go 402 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,240 on the other side, it's like, Okay, wow, that's what 403 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:06,200 I learned out of this. 404 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right. And you know, let's call it 405 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,759 what it is. It is horrible when things happen and 406 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:25,799 you know, somebody's handicapped and there are things we humans. 407 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,319 It's yeah, there are some awful things that happen here, 408 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,519 and not all of them are just due because of 409 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:39,079 your soul's journey. Some of them are committed by people 410 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:44,759 that have totally gone out of their karma and they've 411 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,720 decided the dark energy has captured them somewhat and they've 412 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,759 decided to kill twenty people. That's never going to be 413 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,599 part of a soul's journey learning how to murder or 414 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,720 kill people. But our consequences for what you do on 415 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,960 earth in this free will setting, Well. 416 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: What kind of consequences are you referring to karma? 417 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,079 Speaker 2: Well, karma's part of it. But when people think of 418 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:22,400 sinning and doing bad things, religions have taught us about that, 419 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920 there's a hell, and there's a place you go and 420 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:34,400 it's hot and it smells and whatever. The images that 421 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,160 I see and where they take me now with my 422 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:45,519 visions are places where you create your own hell for 423 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,759 what you've done. And it might be let's take a 424 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,799 guy who's an alcoholic and he ruined his family's life. 425 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:57,440 He took all the money and he spent it all 426 00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:01,480 on drinking, and he's just at the bar every day 427 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:08,640 and he's really not let a very productive spiritual path 428 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,440 at all. He may end up when he passes in 429 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:20,799 a bar with people there all drinking, everybody having the 430 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:25,160 same experiences as him, and it just has to be 431 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,039 awful because it's eternal. Now, there are seraph and angels 432 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:33,119 that can rescue you at the right time and take 433 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,240 you and pull you into a spiritual role and a 434 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:44,799 spiritual path. But depending on what you've done their situations 435 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,720 in these other dimensions they put you that are more 436 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,119 specific to what you did or what you know. There's 437 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,200 a desert in Australia in a dimension where when you 438 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,400 look at it, there's thousands of people biting and kicking 439 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,160 each other and they're scratching each other. Think how awful 440 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200 that would be to be a spirit entity there in 441 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,960 this purgatory type place. But above it all are Sarah 442 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,839 and angels who are waiting for these some of these 443 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,440 guys that raise their hand and say, look, I really 444 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,119 screwed it up. I want to pursue a spiritual path. 445 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:24,640 Please help me, Please save me. So there are ways 446 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:31,880 that that that that that you are dealt with when 447 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,519 you're really doing awful things to other people on this planet. 448 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: Hm Okay, what is the one of the most intense 449 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,880 experiences or most enlightening experiences that you've ever had? 450 00:31:53,799 --> 00:32:07,839 Speaker 2: Oh, wow, Melissa, that's a great question. I think one 451 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:14,279 of them was so I was used to well, I 452 00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:18,960 found a hidden statue right behind a church, and it 453 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:23,279 was the Blessed Mother. Right there in the open where 454 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,160 they cut the grass and rate the leaves, there appeared 455 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,680 the statue that I found in uncovered that nobody remembers it, 456 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,599 nobody knows why it was there, but it's a statue 457 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:40,839 of the Blessed Mother. So I asked in my meditation, 458 00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:45,240 you know, a month later, can I see the Blessed 459 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:51,000 Mother in an orb tonight? And normally I would go 460 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,880 do my video at night. Next day, i'd pull the 461 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,079 video up and look in the orbs and I'd see 462 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,200 whatever they're showing me. She is. I went from three 463 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,599 o'clock in my meditation to her Kroger grocery and I'm 464 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,640 in the grocery in the back buy the cottage cheese 465 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,519 and all this stuff and kind of by the kid's formula, 466 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,279 and a lady walks up and she's beautiful. She has 467 00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:27,599 dark skin, black hair, and she's dressed it looks just 468 00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,880 like if you've seen the apparition at Fatima and the 469 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400 pictures they show of the Blessed Other, it looks just 470 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,599 like her. And she has a little boy with her 471 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,039 who has dark skin and black hair, and both of 472 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:44,880 them do not have shoes. She has a cart with 473 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,880 nothing in it, and she asked if I could give 474 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,440 her some money to help buy formula, and I said, well, 475 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,839 here's twenty dollars and she said, no, I need one 476 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,319 hundred and forty nine dollars and I said okay, So 477 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:04,039 I pulled out all my money and I had one 478 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,839 hundred and fifty and I gave it to her, and 479 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,079 she folded her hands and looked at me and said, 480 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:16,159 bless you, my son. And I ran to my car 481 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,840 because I'm like, I'm going to get a check and 482 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,039 write her another check. I didn't think about a money 483 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:26,079 machine or anything. And when I came back in, she 484 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,119 was gone. And I have a friend who stocks shelves 485 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:36,000 who was there. He never saw her. Nobody remembers seeing her, 486 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,440 but to me, it was an apparition of the Blessed Mother. 487 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,880 And I just started crying because instead of showing her 488 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,679 in an ORB, they showed her in a human form 489 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,599 that I would maybe understand the care and love that 490 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,199 she brings and people need to help with other people 491 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,760 in formula and things. So that was one of the 492 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,880 big ones for me, is seeing the see an apparition 493 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,840 of the Blessed Mother. 494 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,199 Speaker 1: Hmm, that's very interesting. Now you didn't get your one 495 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,079 hundred and fifty back, did you? 496 00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 2: No, I didn't, but I was happy to make that 497 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,920 donation to her. Sure that later she's she ends up 498 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,480 being the lady and all these pictures. 499 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so's it's the Blessed Mother that's showing up in all. 500 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,679 Speaker 2: Ear Well, she's the divine feminine. The Blessed Mother is 501 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:43,280 the Catholic name. Okay, so different religions call her different things, 502 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,440 and she's reincarnated a bunch his isis and all these 503 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,760 other names, so different names for different religions, right. 504 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: Right, No, I totally understand that. Fantastic. Now with some 505 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,159 of these other I'm trying to remember what you said 506 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,480 you've had these was the visions or waking waking visions 507 00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:16,360 of these people coming to you, whether it's at night 508 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,800 or whatever. Can you talk a little bit more about 509 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,679 what those interactions were like or what was conveyed to you. 510 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: Okay, I'd love to so we So we went from 511 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,199 nudges to me seeing all these things. And now I 512 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,159 know I've got this lady with black hair and all 513 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,920 these other spirit entities in these orbs, but I still 514 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:49,199 don't understand why me and what they're trying to get 515 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,559 me to do. So I thought I've done. I do 516 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:57,039 a lot of work with past life regression. I've been. 517 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,559 I lived and died in Egypt at the Pilay Temple. 518 00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:08,519 And I told the guy that helps me, Dominique, who's 519 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,840 another story. I said, let's go to Egypt. I want 520 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,559 to go to the Filey Temple. Maybe that'll be the 521 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,599 clue that I need to find out why they're showing 522 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,599 me all this Because I'm clairvoyant. But some clairvoyants are 523 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,039 better than me. I mean, I hear them and I 524 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:31,280 can see things. But sometimes our humanist gets in the 525 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,400 way of understanding what's truth and what's just your mind. 526 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: Our egos get in the way, exactly. 527 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,199 Speaker 2: And so we were going to go to Egypt, and 528 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,400 we called the company with the barge that takes us 529 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,000 down through all the temples of light, and all of 530 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:56,920 a sudden, all that stuff happens in the Middle East, 531 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:02,639 and we're like, I don't know if that's a smart mood. 532 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,840 Now at this point, I just finished my book that is, 533 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,559 the book Behind the Veil, and the publisher that took 534 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:18,880 it immediately was out of England. So Jessica, who wrote 535 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,320 the book with my I would give her voice recordings 536 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,760 and she would write the words into the you know, 537 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,000 into the book, and then I would approve the thoughts 538 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,320 and everything. But so we're going to Egypt. We're like, no, 539 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920 we're not going to go there, it's too dangerous. And 540 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,639 then what and Jessica's like, why don't we go see 541 00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:43,960 the publisher in England? And so she gets hold of 542 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 the publisher and they're like, we'd love to see And 543 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:52,519 then we got a great recommendation from a lady who's 544 00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:57,119 written several books, Kathy Crosswell, who lives in England, and 545 00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:01,400 Jessica reached out to Kathy and Kathy said, come on over, 546 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,400 I'd love to do readings. 547 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 3: With you all. 548 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,039 Speaker 2: And so we go to England meet the publisher. Then 549 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:17,079 we go out into to meet Kathy. And this is 550 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:20,320 one of those events, Melissa that you asked me about, 551 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,480 these transformative things she comes in, she sits down and 552 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,000 I show her my orbs. Now, Kathy, since she was 553 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:33,519 a little girl, has been communicating to them, just like 554 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,880 we're talking. She calls them the upstairs. I call them 555 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,079 the Holy Ones. So we're sitting there, I show her 556 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:43,960 my ORB pictures and she does, Okay, I'm gonna do 557 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,079 a reading. I'm going to ask them about you. And 558 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:54,360 she's like, oh my, oh what I've never had that happen. 559 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,920 She said, she's done two thousand readings and she's never 560 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:03,440 seen a soul mind that is halfway between heaven and Earth. 561 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,320 And she goes, I don't really know what to make 562 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,599 of it, but I've never seen that the souls either 563 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:18,480 in the universe or it's on Earth. So then I 564 00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:21,639 showed her the pictures of this lady with dark hair 565 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,960 that I was calling Carol. She's like, that's not Carol, 566 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,280 that's the Lady of the Light. I'm like, what the 567 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,920 Lady of the Light? I said, who's that? She goes, 568 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:42,559 that's the divine feminine that sits right under God, and 569 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:47,599 she's what the Catholics call Mary and other religions call whatever. 570 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:53,760 And so I started working with her, and I found 571 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,800 out then they started, the Holy One started working with me. 572 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,559 I found out my job and this incarnation is to 573 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,519 help bring in this new Golden Age. And part of 574 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,800 that job is this book and another book coming out 575 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,400 the Kathy and I are Don called Calling All Humans, 576 00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,239 which is going to be a guidebook for humans that 577 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,960 want to connect and do their spiritual journey as things 578 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,719 start becoming easier for that to happen with the third 579 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,079 to fourth dimension. And the other thing that I'm doing 580 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719 that they want me to do is like I'm the 581 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,440 ground game to help them. I'm building a portal. I 582 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,800 bought seventy acres on a lake nearby, and I'm building 583 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,039 a portal between Heaven and Earth that's one hundred feet 584 00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,480 tall to help souls move. So part of my job 585 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,599 is building energy and portals all across the world so 586 00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:56,440 that souls that are lost souls that maybe we're in 587 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,159 a car wreck and don't know they died, earth bound 588 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,800 souls so that they can find the light and go 589 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,079 to the light. And also part of that is the 590 00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:09,559 animal soul, So working really hard with portals and making 591 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:16,079 sure that animal souls pass onto the spiritual path. If 592 00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,920 a soul doesn't take a spiritual path. There's really nowhere 593 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,960 for it other than a limbo on the earth, kind 594 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:31,920 of like a purgatory. So New Golden Age Portals energy, 595 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,079 another book, Maybe somebody will do a documentary. But I'm 596 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,719 trying to connect to millions of people to let them 597 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:47,320 understand how much they're loved and how much how important 598 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,639 it is to because people are scared. You brought it 599 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,719 up earlier, Melissa. People are scared and this is a 600 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,480 scary time on the earth. So if we can give 601 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:03,280 people some comfort, can help them realize there is something 602 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,519 when you die, and that they love us very very much. 603 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,480 As corny as it sounds, they love us more than 604 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,800 I can even describe to you. 605 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: I believe that. I do believe that you mentioned when 606 00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:26,280 you're working with past life regression, and you mentioned I 607 00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,199 think it was a person who was doing the past 608 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,159 write for regression. There was a whole story involved there. 609 00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:33,400 Are you able to talk about that? 610 00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,559 Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that saying that. 611 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: I think there was somebody you mentioned that I might 612 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,800 have gotten confused that you said was a whole nother story. 613 00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:50,039 Speaker 2: Oh that was Dominique. 614 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Dominique, So. 615 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: Part of all this stuff I'm doing on the earth 616 00:43:57,039 --> 00:44:02,679 now that they led me to and I love doing is. 617 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,039 I teach mindfulness and meditation and I teach it to 618 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,800 the Urban League in Louisville, which are people. They have 619 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,599 a program for people that've gotten out of prison restarting 620 00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:14,519 their lives. So I teach that. And one of the 621 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:18,159 people I met was an African American gentleman named Dominique 622 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,760 who had really struggled in his life. He had done 623 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,760 some bad things and he was trying to write his ship. 624 00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:32,639 I took him under my wing and I have now 625 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,239 developed I started a business for him that he's doing well. 626 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,159 He does all this work for me. He'll work at 627 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,000 my wellness retreat, not only the portal, but it's going 628 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,239 to be a wellness retreat where people could come visit 629 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,360 and you know, connect through programs. But Dominique is this 630 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:57,440 special story about a guy who was down on his luck, 631 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,960 and you know, I've helped him get on it his feet. 632 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:04,519 He's uh And then found out we actually have a 633 00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,639 past life together in Egypt too, And I have a 634 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,039 picture of him from that time and a picture of me, 635 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,519 because that's the other thing I mentioned it earlier. But 636 00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:19,039 people may not believe me. But I I'm in a 637 00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,199 lot of these orbs, Like my face is in these orbs. 638 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,800 And when I asked to see Dominique from the past life, 639 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,239 they showed me Dominique, So it is pretty cool. So yeah, 640 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,719 Dominique's a special story. 641 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: Shoot. There was something else that Okay, I was gonna 642 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:49,480 ask you. Reincarnation, okay, which I've always leaned towards. I 643 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:53,440 believe happens to all of us. Now, when you talk 644 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,280 about these souls who wind up in these purgatories, you know, 645 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:05,360 are they all so given that opportunity to reincarnate, maybe 646 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,960 fix some of the things that they've done in one 647 00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:13,480 life in another, somehow redeem themselves. 648 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:20,679 Speaker 2: Yes, Melissa, they are, but there's not the door opener 649 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,239 for them until they've claimed a spiritual path. And once again, 650 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,000 a spiritual path could be just being a wholesome, good 651 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:37,239 person and loving and just being a good human soul. 652 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,559 That's how you progress into your next reincarnation. And when 653 00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,119 you die, you meet your family. Then you meet with 654 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,920 your spirit family, you review your life and you decide 655 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,960 to reincarnate again, or you're going through teachings and learnings 656 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,039 on different mansion worlds. But you can't do any of 657 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,119 that unless you've claimed a spiritual path. 658 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well we're coming close to the end here, Tim, 659 00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,679 So your book Beyond the Veil, could you just mention 660 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,400 again where everybody can find. 661 00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:24,159 Speaker 2: That sure behind the Veil? Tim Malone, Jessica Franzini, Amazon, 662 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,360 Barnes and Noble, and I think one of the cool things, well, 663 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,239 one of the disappointing things about the book was the publisher. 664 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:34,960 I've got all these cool pictures, but they're in black 665 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,039 and white, and I'm like, okay, that's not going to 666 00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:41,480 show really well. But we have a website called Tim 667 00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,960 Malone Behind the Veil dot com okay, where we take 668 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:49,159 those pictures and put them in color, and underneath the 669 00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:51,800 picture say here's the page that's on and here's what 670 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,800 you're seeing. So you can go to the website as 671 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,199 you're in the book and you see a picture and 672 00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:03,440 you can compare as like you and I discussed, some 673 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,760 people are going to see everything that I see, some 674 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:11,360 will see some, some will see nothing. But yep, I 675 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,840 would really appreciate people buying my book. 676 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, Tim, thank you again very much for coming 677 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,800 on the program and your book just came out last month, 678 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,639 I believe, so I hope it does well and we'll 679 00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,400 have to have you back on sometime when the next 680 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,320 appreciates you. 681 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,199 Speaker 2: You can reach out to me anytime you'd like if 682 00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,079 you have any questions or anything I can help you with. 683 00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: Melissa, Okay, great, thank you all right. So that was 684 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,559 Tim Malone and his book Beyond the Veil, and I 685 00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,119 want to thank him again for coming on the show. 686 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,559 We actually had a post interview discussion that I really 687 00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,119 wish I would have recorded because we went into a 688 00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:58,639 couple more things about reincarnation and even you know, ghosts 689 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,079 and which the category of those people who are still 690 00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:07,800 earthbound as he put her in those places. So it 691 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,320 was a really good discussion, and I will let you 692 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,199 read his book. Like I said, it just came out 693 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,920 last month. Now next week I'll be back definitely. My 694 00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,360 next guest, her name is Patty Lehman. She's a psychic 695 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,920 medium and a dear friend of mine. So I'm going 696 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,320 to look forward to that discussion too, So that'll be 697 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,320 next week trans Dimensional Realities here on the Paranormal UK 698 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,280 Radio Network. So as usual, be good humans and I 699 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,159 will talk to you later.