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Speaker 1: ericson Andrew Good Evening. Welcome Eric.
Speaker 2: Great to be here, Excited to be here on the show.
Speaker 2: The next two hours breaking it all down. I don't
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Speaker 1: That's why, you know, nothing wrong with that. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was looking at I was prepping the
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a soliloquy. There you're gonna go off
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Speaker 1: Uh well, we will. By the way, Andrew and I
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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. So glad to have
Speaker 1: Andrew aboard. And and this thing with Tom that that
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Speaker 1: been doing Andrew or were you doing this in years
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was two years ago that
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Speaker 3: It's very experienced there.
Speaker 2: So it's fun to pick his brain because I know
Speaker 2: that he drafts way more teams than I do. But
Speaker 2: it's always fun because sometimes you go head to head,
Speaker 2: so I'll draft in the same room and other times
Speaker 2: we'll draft team together. And I'm always helping Tom get
Speaker 2: exposure to the right guys good to get Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tom, Tom's another former co host of this show. However,
Speaker 1: it's always, you know, when I have these guys across
Speaker 1: the pond, it's always delicate, right because I don't really
Speaker 1: I can't really reschedule the time on this and Tom
Speaker 1: was a trooper one time that he basically did the
Speaker 1: show in the middle of the night there, which was awesome,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he cared for it oh that much.
Speaker 1: Like while he was doing it and I said, well, listen,
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Speaker 1: for him to do it. But he's great and obviously
Speaker 1: anybody who watched the streams that you do with him,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fantastic as well. All right. I was
Speaker 1: going to lead off with some breaking news because we
Speaker 1: don't often get breaking news on the show, And if
Speaker 1: I can pull up Schefter's Twitter right now, Andrew, I
Speaker 1: think he's the one who I who I saw this from,
Speaker 1: But I think this is an interesting way to lead
Speaker 1: it off. No, it wasn't Schefter, was somebody maybe his Rapaport.
Speaker 1: But I'm seeing reports right now of Jalen Cocher being
Speaker 1: extended by the Carolina Panthers, Andrew, which is very very
Speaker 1: interesting when you consider that this was a player that
Speaker 1: was you know, what are the Panthers, what have they
Speaker 1: recently done? It is Rapaport who said that they've agreed
Speaker 1: to Coker on a new contract extension when you think
Speaker 1: about the Panthers have done the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: McMillan Teteroa. McMillan was a first round pick right the
Speaker 1: year before that, it was Xavier Leaguett who was a
Speaker 1: first round pick, and we saw these Jalen Cocher truthers
Speaker 1: in the fantasy circle. Fantasy circles kind of talk him up.
Speaker 1: I've been drafting him here and there late. I just
Speaker 1: wonder what the ceiling is in that offense there. But
Speaker 1: I think this is a boon for anybody who's holding
Speaker 1: Jalen Coker on their dynasty teams, anybody who's already drafted
Speaker 1: him this year. Clearly the Panthers have made him an
Speaker 1: important part of their future. And you know because of
Speaker 1: the contract too, Andrew, he's an important part of the
Speaker 1: present this year. What do you make of this Cocher
Speaker 1: contracts extension for Carolina and specifically what it does for
Speaker 1: him in redraft this year if anything.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, shout out to Jallen Coker, undrafted
Speaker 2: free agent out of holy Cross, which is a school
Speaker 2: in western Massachusetts, very close to where I grew up,
Speaker 2: somewhere where I had baseball camps at holy Cross University.
Speaker 2: So it's a school that's not known for a lot
Speaker 2: of its football products. So shout out to Jalen Coker
Speaker 2: for getting the bag as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 3: And it's not easy to do.
Speaker 2: So how he impacts the Caroline Panthers, I think that
Speaker 2: it's probably going to be him as the number two
Speaker 2: guy behind McMillan. Big t Mac is the alephan this
Speaker 2: passing game. They don't really have a tight end. I again,
Speaker 2: tight end is so in vogue right now, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: everyone's got to have like five tight ends on the roster.
Speaker 2: Panthers don't really have any that I feel like are
Speaker 2: really strong target earners. I mean Jatavian Sanders, What are
Speaker 2: we going to run it back with him again? So
Speaker 2: I think that the receivers are going to be the
Speaker 2: vocal points of the passing game.
Speaker 3: And I think they're in a position.
Speaker 2: With Bryce Young. Where are they going to extend him?
Speaker 2: Is he going to be their franchise quarterback? I think
Speaker 2: this team Dave Canals calling the shots. I think they
Speaker 2: got to take the training wheels off a little bit
Speaker 2: with Bryce Young. Whether it's gonna be good or bad.
Speaker 2: They got to figure out if, hey, if we're going
Speaker 2: to be a pass happier offense, because last year they
Speaker 2: tried to hide Bryce Young. They tried to just ride
Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle and Chewba Hubbard, whoever was healthy, whoever's playing
Speaker 2: more effectively. But now you've got weapons that you feel
Speaker 2: pretty good about. You have team at entering year two. Okay,
Speaker 2: he can be a superstar Jalen Cocor if he's healthy,
Speaker 2: because that's really been the big thing with him the
Speaker 2: last two years. Barry banged up, dealing with a lot
Speaker 2: of lower body injuries, but when he's been on the field,
Speaker 2: very effective, and obviously he had that last last time
Speaker 2: he saw Jalen Coker freaking blowing up against the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams, and the Kocas are just losing their minds,
Speaker 2: Derek Brown included. So I definitely think that Cocher again
Speaker 2: last nine games played average ten point one ppr, point
Speaker 2: three and half ppr. He catches everything thrown his way
Speaker 2: seventy eight percent catch right, that was top five in
Speaker 2: the NFL last year. So he gets targets, he works
Speaker 2: out of the slot. I think that he fits really
Speaker 2: well with what they have in Chris Brazzle as this
Speaker 2: field stretcher, team ac as that all around alpha and
Speaker 2: then Jalen Coker eating out of the slot. So maybe
Speaker 2: in all the Titan heavy offenses, I think the Panthers
Speaker 2: might be one of these teams that now we like
Speaker 2: eleven person ol, like, maybe we'll do three wide receiver sets.
Speaker 2: Let Bryce Young quote unquote cook because I got to
Speaker 2: figure out can he be the chef for the future.
Speaker 1: The You know, this is interesting too, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to compare it to what the Jaguars have going
Speaker 1: on there, but when you look at Carolina with McMillan, Lagette,
Speaker 1: Cocher and brazl as you had mentioned, this might be.
Speaker 1: If you are a believer in the Carolina Panthers, you
Speaker 1: should be a believer in Bryce Young as your second
Speaker 1: quarterback in super Flex Bestball tournaments. You should be a
Speaker 1: believer that Young takes a step forward this year. And
Speaker 1: quite frankly, Andrew, if he doesn't, Carolina is probably going
Speaker 1: to be in the market for a quarterback in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven. This is this is the definitive make or
Speaker 1: break year for Bryce Young.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent could not agree more.
Speaker 2: And I think that it bodes well for the Panthers
Speaker 2: to just let him rip, let him see if he
Speaker 2: can do it or not, because if he fails and
Speaker 2: the Panthers have a bad record, well, Panthers are a
Speaker 2: perfect team.
Speaker 3: That could draft a quarterback in a.
Speaker 2: What should be a very talented rookie class coming out
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, or if you find that Brayce
Speaker 2: Song is really just a win with quarterback, which I
Speaker 2: think is probably the most likely scenario with him. I
Speaker 2: think that those are quarterbacks you don't want to overpay.
Speaker 2: That's how you run into the issues where we're running
Speaker 2: in with like Tua, where we want other teams eat
Speaker 2: this team's salary. When you're a win with quarterback, if
Speaker 2: you overpay those guys, you run to try down the road.
Speaker 2: So interesting year, but I think for fantasy purposes, Bryce
Speaker 2: Young office ol jus as a rusher, got more weapons,
Speaker 2: and to his credit, he's improved every year he's been
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I know it's started out really rocky,
Speaker 2: really tough situation, but every year he's gotten a little
Speaker 2: bit better. I think maybe we get see the best
Speaker 2: year of Bryce Young yet. But is that still enough
Speaker 2: for the Panthers to be convinced he is a franchise
Speaker 2: future quarterback.
Speaker 3: I'm still not so sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different bar right And the other great
Speaker 1: thing I love about Bryce Young and really, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: all the Panthers that division that they play in. I
Speaker 1: don't really see a dominant defense there. So you could
Speaker 1: see some big time Panthers in Saints games, or Buccaneers
Speaker 1: Saints or Falcons Panthers, you know, what have you. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting to watch how those offenses play
Speaker 1: off those average to subpar defenses in that division. We
Speaker 1: go to the AFC South next here. Andrew Cameron wolf
Speaker 1: had this report a couple of days ago from the
Speaker 1: NFL Network. David Montgomery apparently is quote ready to be
Speaker 1: a potential three down back if needed. Now that's what
Speaker 1: Cameron Wolfe's that's the words he chose to use. I
Speaker 1: think what's interesting here is what, you know, what do
Speaker 1: we talk about Woody Marks when he got drafted last
Speaker 1: year while it was his past catching chops right, and
Speaker 1: then he was sort of miscast in the Panther in
Speaker 1: the Texans offense, beg your pardon last year as this
Speaker 1: three down guy out of necessity because they were so
Speaker 1: beat up with no Mixon obviously, and it was just
Speaker 1: not a good situation for Woody Johns or Woody Marx
Speaker 1: to be the type of player that, you know, to
Speaker 1: accentuate his strengths. Now Montgomery comes down there, we would
Speaker 1: think that he will be the first and second down banger.
Speaker 1: This report from Cameron Wolf a potential three down back,
Speaker 1: does does this just mean that as long as Woody
Speaker 1: Marx is healthy, Montgomery's not catching passes on third down?
Speaker 1: Or does this mean that Montgomery is a player that
Speaker 1: they believe could just be the de facto Bell cow
Speaker 1: relegating Woody Marx to I don't want to say spot duty,
Speaker 1: but you know, not even a regular third down guy.
Speaker 1: What's the way that you're looking at the Texans running
Speaker 1: back situation for drafts at this moment, Andrew, I.
Speaker 2: Think Dave Montgomery's kind of that carbon copy fantasy RB
Speaker 2: two where it's going to be mostly volume driven. I
Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna get absurd efficiency from David Montgomery
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or for him. He is an
Speaker 2: older running back, closer to the age of thirty than
Speaker 2: to the age of twenty two or twenty three. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he has a lot of tread on the tires, and
Speaker 2: he just profiles as a banger. That's why he was
Speaker 2: effective and how he was effective in Detroit playing alongside
Speaker 2: Jamir Gibbs and I think it's a role that he
Speaker 2: can potentially be useful. And I don't think he's a
Speaker 2: league winner by any means, but in terms of value,
Speaker 2: if he's going late enough in drafts as an RB two,
Speaker 2: I'm finally, David Montgomery, I agree with you that Woody Marks,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Out of necessity.
Speaker 2: Well, if the necessity is well, it's either start Dave
Speaker 2: Montgomery on three downs or start Woody Marx, then we're
Speaker 2: gonna start David Montgomery on all three downs. Ruddy Marx
Speaker 2: was terrible last year kind of across the board, So yes,
Speaker 2: he does definitely fit more of a receiving role. I
Speaker 2: think that would probably fit and help the Texas office
Speaker 2: a little bit more. But I mean, the jury still
Speaker 2: out on this Texas offensive line. They can revamp it
Speaker 2: and try to change it as much as they want,
Speaker 2: bring in different guys from different.
Speaker 3: Teams until it's good.
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna remain skeptical that this offense is the
Speaker 2: line he's going out for text c JA Droud and
Speaker 2: establish a decent run game because basically, since c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud has been on the Houston Texans, they've never really
Speaker 2: had a decent run game that was really really consistent
Speaker 2: from a down to down basis. I know Joe Mixon
Speaker 2: had a decent year. I think it was his first
Speaker 2: season with the Houston Texans. He did a lot of
Speaker 2: job as a receiver, but I still think mix in
Speaker 2: at his peak and when he entered at his first
Speaker 2: year with the Texas, I think he's still ahead of
Speaker 2: where Dave Montgomery is right now. So Montgomery, I think
Speaker 2: is fine, not necessarily someone that I'm like, oh, got
Speaker 2: pounded day with Dave Montgomery, but someone that they can
Speaker 2: be a value, especially earlier in the season where you
Speaker 2: need or where he's fully healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 2: And I think that, yeah, he's probably the favorite to
Speaker 2: see a eas and chunk of volume.
Speaker 1: I know you said the jury still out on the
Speaker 1: Houston offensive line, and I'm glad you brought this up
Speaker 1: because I've heard different people within the industry whom I respect,
Speaker 1: take differing approaches to what they believe the Texans did
Speaker 1: with their offensive line this offseason. Some people think it
Speaker 1: was moving deck chairs around on the Titanic, that it
Speaker 1: didn't get any better and quite frankly, might actually be
Speaker 1: worse when all said and done this year. And then
Speaker 1: there's other people looking at and seeing how proactive Houston
Speaker 1: was with getting new pieces on this offensive line to
Speaker 1: block for Montgomery. And then you also think, Andrew, what's
Speaker 1: the philosophy for Damiko Ryans and Nick Casario in Houston?
Speaker 1: They got this unbelievable defense. Wouldn't you want to just
Speaker 1: be able to pound the ball control the game as
Speaker 1: much as you can make the necessary throws to Collins
Speaker 1: and Higgins and Dell and Schultz when you have to.
Speaker 1: But Montgomery and the offensive line should be the end
Speaker 1: to the yang of this dominant Houston defense. But specifically
Speaker 1: with the offensive line. I know you said the jury
Speaker 1: is still out. If I have to pin you down
Speaker 1: right now. June eleventh, twenty twenty six, do you believe
Speaker 1: that the Texans offensive line right now is better than
Speaker 1: it was at the end of last season.
Speaker 3: I do believe it is better.
Speaker 2: But how much better is kind of where I stop.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too carried away, because offensive
Speaker 2: lines fluctuate a lot of time and a lot of
Speaker 2: its injury related. However, I do feel that the way
Speaker 2: that it's constructed right now, it's probably the best version
Speaker 2: that we have seen of it. Does that mean it's
Speaker 2: twentieth in the NFL versus thirty second potentially, and that
Speaker 2: is a big increase. So ultimately I am a little
Speaker 2: bit more optimistic about this runn game. I think Dave
Speaker 2: Montgomery is clearly better than every other running back that
Speaker 2: had last year.
Speaker 3: Again, it was what he marks.
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb was the other guy that they hadn't better
Speaker 2: than that they signed, and I mean poor went out
Speaker 2: for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3: Man like that guy just.
Speaker 2: Walk out of bed getting five yards of carry, had
Speaker 2: that devastating injury, was on the Browns for basically his
Speaker 2: entire career, just never really had a chance to play
Speaker 2: for a superstar team. But yeah, I think that this
Speaker 2: run game will be more effective than it was last year.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: The injury news continues here, but this I think is good.
Speaker 1: George Kittle believes that he's on track to play Week
Speaker 1: one against the Rams. This was a report that came
Speaker 1: out this past Saturday. Andrew he met with the media.
Speaker 1: He says his achilles is doing great, he's had no setbacks,
Speaker 1: and that it is realistic for him to come back
Speaker 1: eight months after rupturing that what is it attendant, It's attendant, right,
Speaker 1: The achilles tendon Anyway, He's gonna turn thirty three in October,
Speaker 1: so certainly time isn't necessarily on his side for a
Speaker 1: fast recovery here. I know there's plenty of FFPC players
Speaker 1: I've talked to talking up drafting Jake Tanjas because they
Speaker 1: believe that this guy is going to matter in tight
Speaker 1: end premium leagues until Kittle gets back. The million dollar question, though, Andrew,
Speaker 1: is when is Kittle coming back? I know, and I
Speaker 1: was one of them. I was pretty down on Kittle
Speaker 1: missing most of the season, and now I'm kind of
Speaker 1: kind of walked back a little bit on that based
Speaker 1: on what I've heard now. I haven't heard anything concrete
Speaker 1: or read anything concrete from the Niners. I'm just going
Speaker 1: off of kind of what Kittle says. And I always
Speaker 1: say that taking injury analysis from the player who is
Speaker 1: actually rehabbing the injury usually is not the best thing
Speaker 1: in the world, because they usually tend to paint themselves
Speaker 1: in a very positive light and it's just sort of
Speaker 1: the mentality they have to have to get back onto
Speaker 1: the field. Kittle believes he can come back and be
Speaker 1: ready week one. I still have misgivings about drafting Kittle
Speaker 1: as high as he's going. You think about FFPC players
Speaker 1: right now, they're still taking George Kittle, even coming off
Speaker 1: this achilles at age thirty two, as tight end nine.
Speaker 1: He's going in the mid seventh round again tight end
Speaker 1: premium format. But Kittle is going ahead of Likely, He's
Speaker 1: going ahead of Kelsey, He's going ahead of Kincaid. It's
Speaker 1: a price I don't know if I'm willing to pay
Speaker 1: at this point because quite frankly, we're still in the
Speaker 1: dark a little bit about how much time that we
Speaker 1: expect Kittle to miss Andrew As it stands right now,
Speaker 1: when do you think George Kittle comes back? And the
Speaker 1: second part to that question, when he does come back,
Speaker 1: how much of real life Capital Letter George Kittle are
Speaker 1: we going to see or are we going to see
Speaker 1: a guy that is still clearly hamstrung a little bit
Speaker 1: by trying to recover and get into football shape with
Speaker 1: this achilles injury, Because that's another conversation to have as well.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that George Kittle wants to fly to
Speaker 2: Australia trying to come back from a torn achilles injury
Speaker 2: like I'm sorry, so I'm if I had to make
Speaker 2: a bet I'm playing week one, he's not playing Week one.
Speaker 2: I really don't think that that's in the cards. Given
Speaker 2: the circumstances of the particular matchup that forty nine ers
Speaker 2: have in Week one against the Rams in Australia, that
Speaker 2: just seems like a hassle that you do wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to deal with the player coming back. You're not in
Speaker 2: your own facilities, this is your first game back. That
Speaker 2: just seems like you're asking for trouble and bad things
Speaker 2: to happen. So I would say if the timeline is
Speaker 2: close to week one, maybe it is more like week two.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably gonna be more like he's on
Speaker 3: the pup list.
Speaker 2: He misses the first four weeks of the season, that
Speaker 2: makes it obviously tougher to click him this high as
Speaker 2: a top ten tight end. However, it's just based on
Speaker 2: the bet the upside that well, when he comes back,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be an elite tight end. Basically, you're drafting,
Speaker 2: I mean, in this range, you're just hoping that you
Speaker 2: can get a guy that's gonna be an elite tight end.
Speaker 2: So when he's on the field and producing, yet, even
Speaker 2: if he misses a couple of games. Well, if he's
Speaker 2: a George Kittle of old and posts those oh so
Speaker 2: juicy spike weeks, Because even healthy George Kittle, we know
Speaker 2: how it is. He has games where he basically does
Speaker 2: nothing as a receiver and is not involved whatsoever. So
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going away. I think coming back
Speaker 2: from this injury probably just amplifies that. But when we're
Speaker 2: in the second half of the year, George Kittle's cooking again.
Speaker 2: It's not like the other forty nine ers players are
Speaker 2: all guaranteed bets to stay healthy the entire season. Between
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, Christian Kirk, Christian McCaffrey coming off a billion touches,
Speaker 2: I think you're they're gonna need George Kittle at some point,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna want that, especially when your roster, at
Speaker 2: least when you're drafting George Kittle, Well, the rest of
Speaker 2: your roster will be healthy when he's missing games, but
Speaker 2: down the stretch, you should have him while you're overcoming
Speaker 2: some other injuries. So, especially in best ball, I don't
Speaker 2: really have too I'm not really against the price of
Speaker 2: where he's going.
Speaker 1: Necessarily, Yeah, Joe King chiming and not many tight ends
Speaker 1: have George Kittle's one week ceiling weekly volatility is subed optimal,
Speaker 1: but you care less about that volatility when you are
Speaker 1: drafting him in Best Ball. To your point, So the
Speaker 1: other thing too with in regards to Kittle Andrew before
Speaker 1: we move on from this, well, number one, you know
Speaker 1: you mentioned all those injury prone guy I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: Hendry prone, but guys with bad injury histories with Evans
Speaker 1: and McCaffrey or whatever. And then you got that substation
Speaker 1: in Santa Claro's like that that, I mean Dejean's stribbling.
Speaker 1: I don't know what his college injury history is like,
Speaker 1: but that dude might all of a sudden start having
Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries as well. Anything's possible there regarding Kittle,
Speaker 1: what do you believe? So and I know you're not
Speaker 1: a doctor, but what do you believe? Like, let's say
Speaker 1: he does miss the first four games this season. Let's
Speaker 1: say he's back active the first time in October. Do
Speaker 1: you expect Kittle to be doing the kinds of things
Speaker 1: that he was doing pre Achilles tire or do you
Speaker 1: think that this season is one that he kind of,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, muddles through to try
Speaker 1: to shake off that injury, grogginess in that Achilles, and
Speaker 1: then in twenty twenty seven we see him back to
Speaker 1: the peak of his powers. I'm just kind of curious
Speaker 1: that as to what version of Kittle you think we
Speaker 1: see when he does get back out on the field.
Speaker 2: It's a great question because going back to his peak
Speaker 2: of his powers, does that happen when you turn thirty
Speaker 2: four years old at right end? So I think that
Speaker 2: this might be just the beginning of the decline for
Speaker 2: George Kittle, where he had his late season, late career
Speaker 2: Achilles injury, we start to see his yards after the
Speaker 2: catch number. So I would guess that this year we'll
Speaker 2: probably see even if he has some big games here
Speaker 2: and there, I think overall we'll probably see a pretty
Speaker 2: substantial like, oh, like his efficiency his yards per out
Speaker 2: run all decreased, his yards out to the catch perception decreased.
Speaker 2: That would be That wouldn't shock me at all, and
Speaker 2: that might be, Hey, yeah, even though he's not coming
Speaker 2: back from the Achilles injury, he's not going to end
Speaker 2: he won't really be that same George Kittle alpha player
Speaker 2: that we've called come to love and know, so I
Speaker 2: don't think that that's like bad necessarily because again it's
Speaker 2: tight end tight end.
Speaker 3: It's rough out there sometimes.
Speaker 2: So George Kittle, I still think that these weekly spike games,
Speaker 2: when he is getting a ton of volume, when he's
Speaker 2: Rock Berty's favorite red zone target, Yeah, he's still gonna
Speaker 2: have those smash weeks. And I think that in itself
Speaker 2: helps separate him from the rest of the tight end pack,
Speaker 2: because there are some tight ends that just can't do anything,
Speaker 2: like can't have big games.
Speaker 3: It's like three or forty. Maybe they score, maybe they don't.
Speaker 2: So at least with Kittle, you know that he's gonna
Speaker 2: have a high ceiling on a weekly basis in game
Speaker 2: plans where Shanahan is dialing things up.
Speaker 3: For him more.
Speaker 2: Like feast or famine. So that's kind of how I
Speaker 2: view him long term even after this season. Still a
Speaker 2: very usable tight end, but not necessarily the consistent elite
Speaker 2: guy that maybe we've seen the last couple years, where
Speaker 2: basically I feel like he's basically been a top five
Speaker 2: tight end last five or six year is basically wherever
Speaker 2: he's playing at least like twelve games.
Speaker 1: To piggyback on something you said Adam Hahn in the
Speaker 1: in the chat right now, saying that the Niners got old,
Speaker 1: And to your point, Andrew, the other thing that Kittle
Speaker 1: does have going for him is is Evans and McCaffrey
Speaker 1: with the higher potential to go into the trainer's room
Speaker 1: more this year because of their age and their injury history.
Speaker 1: And who do you think brock perty is gonna look
Speaker 1: to if those guys aren't available, Even if one of
Speaker 1: them's not available, it's gonna be Kittle who benefits from
Speaker 1: that as well. So I think I still think people
Speaker 1: are drafting him a little bit too close, not to
Speaker 1: his ceiling, but I think there's I think I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm finding some of the tight ends that are
Speaker 1: going after Kittle right now, like I think, and I
Speaker 1: know he's dealing with the knee injury of his own,
Speaker 1: but I think Kinkaid is more exciting to me when
Speaker 1: you consider the drop off of a full round where Kincaid,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about puplist with that guy right now,
Speaker 1: likely is a guy drafting quite a bit, very excited
Speaker 1: about him, especially with the elite neighbors stuff that's going
Speaker 1: on right now. I'm very excited to see what likely
Speaker 1: can do. And you know, if Travis Kelce had a
Speaker 1: different name in twenty twenty five and we just looked
Speaker 1: at his stat line, we'd be like, why is this
Speaker 1: guy going as tight end eleven? He should be going
Speaker 1: much higher too, So that's another player. I'd look at
Speaker 1: what all all the three of those guys have in common.
Speaker 1: They're not coming off to horn Achilles. And certainly I
Speaker 1: think you could make the case. And if you're telling
Speaker 1: yourself a story of you, you know you're trying to
Speaker 1: win a million bucks in the FFPC main event or
Speaker 1: the big Gorilla win a million bucks like Kittle probably
Speaker 1: has your the best opportunity to help you do that.
Speaker 1: But I think the floor is a little bit lower
Speaker 1: there as well. Okay, we've talked about Kittle enough. We
Speaker 1: have to move on. And I am curious here to
Speaker 1: and I guess this is not something In regards to
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. This did not resonate with me as
Speaker 1: much as it probably should have. But there was a
Speaker 1: piece on ESPN on Sunday morning about the Cardinals and
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison saying that as of right now, Andrew he's
Speaker 1: still trying to get back to one hundred percent. He
Speaker 1: said that whatever he's dealing with right now in his body,
Speaker 1: it's not going to prevent him from from from doing anything.
Speaker 1: He's still gonna be doing everything that that the Cardinals
Speaker 1: ask him to do, but he says it's an ongoing process.
Speaker 1: Bear in mind, this guy had two different heel injuries
Speaker 1: last year. He had appendicitis and a concussion, missed five games.
Speaker 1: I know the appendicitis and the concussion, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into all that, but they're not
Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries, which you know. The heel thing is.
Speaker 1: In the fact that he had two of them, I
Speaker 1: think is more interesting here. I don't think I'm I'm
Speaker 1: concerned about this. In fact, Andrew, you could probably spin
Speaker 1: this in a way of, oh, this is a reason
Speaker 1: two draft Marvin Harrison this year. He's not hurt, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to be missing any time
Speaker 1: as of right now. Where As he missed five games
Speaker 1: last year, he was doing with dealing with two separate
Speaker 1: heel injuries. I've never had appendicitis, but I'm sure that
Speaker 1: was not fun to deal with if you're a football player, right,
Speaker 1: and then the concussion too, we know everything that goes
Speaker 1: into that with Harrison. Dude, this is a player again
Speaker 1: that has gone down. His ADP has gone down every
Speaker 1: single year he's been in the league. I remember when
Speaker 1: he was a rookie and in FFPC drafts he was
Speaker 1: a solid second round pick as a rookie, and now
Speaker 1: he has fallen to the six oh seven behind Carnel Tait.
Speaker 1: Speaking of rookies, Jamison Williams, Roman Dune say they're all
Speaker 1: going in front of him. Harrison is wide receiver thirty one.
Speaker 1: Right now, you read this injury report about Harrison, does
Speaker 1: this make you feel better about Harrison maybe having a
Speaker 1: bounce back year? And I think we also should talk
Speaker 1: about the kind of the quarterback situation that could happen
Speaker 1: with Carson Beck taking over potentially later on in the
Speaker 1: season during the money weeks as well. There's certainly a
Speaker 1: lot to unpack about Marvin Harrison this season.
Speaker 2: I think the injuries played a big role in why
Speaker 2: he had a lack of production last year, just in
Speaker 2: the aggregate, because he didn't really get the chance to
Speaker 2: feast in these Jakoby Brissett fifty to sixty drop back
Speaker 2: games because he missed a lot of those games. So
Speaker 2: I do think that there's in the back of my
Speaker 2: mind thinking about Marvin Heerson Junior and what if he
Speaker 2: had played in a couple of those games, how much
Speaker 2: more expensive he would be in drafts after he posted
Speaker 2: a Michael Wilson s type of stat line, because when
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson and Marvin Heerson Junior were on the field
Speaker 2: at the same time, there was no contest who was
Speaker 2: getting the ball. It wasn't Michael Wilson. Like Michael Wilson's
Speaker 2: target rate perute run just freaking gotten newked. He basically
Speaker 2: did nothing and you couldn't start him in fantasy. And
Speaker 2: then when Marvin Hereerson Junior missed time, Michael Wilson was
Speaker 2: a lock froowded top.
Speaker 3: Twenty Fantasy wide receiver.
Speaker 2: So I think that's telling that Harrison Junior was able
Speaker 2: to command such a high percentage of targets in the
Speaker 2: offense when he was on the field, even with Tree
Speaker 2: McBride still healthy in the lineup, and.
Speaker 3: Through two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the production hasn't been there that we've expected. Obviously
Speaker 2: hasn't met up to expectations, but generally speaking, he still
Speaker 2: commanded a high percentage of air yards, pretty good target share,
Speaker 2: a lot of red zone, end zone targets. So he's
Speaker 2: kind of checking off the peripherals of what we're looking
Speaker 2: for in a fantasy wide receiver that can maybe take
Speaker 2: a leap. Year three breakouts still happen, right, It's not hey,
Speaker 2: you have to hit rookie year. So he's entering year three,
Speaker 2: maybe he's gonna be fully healthy. I think he was
Speaker 2: turning the current or turning the corner at the second
Speaker 2: half of last year, but then he got hurt again.
Speaker 2: So I do think that I'm open to Marvin Harris
Speaker 2: Junior bouncing back. I have him inside my top thirty again,
Speaker 2: only a little bit higher than the ADP at wide
Speaker 2: receiver twenty eight because I acknowledge the quarterback, right, how
Speaker 2: high is the ceiling when Jacoby Brissett or Carson Beck
Speaker 2: or Gardner Minshews your quarterback and you are not the
Speaker 2: number one target on your team. That's trade McBride and
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson. Will he be a thing? I personally, I
Speaker 2: mean I am lower on Michael Wilson. Then consensus as well,
Speaker 2: I would rather take Marvin Harris Junior at his ADP
Speaker 2: versus Michael Wilson and his ADP. But I can acknowledge
Speaker 2: that this Cardinal's offense just sucks. That they all are
Speaker 2: going to be bad picks like that includes Trey McBride,
Speaker 2: who's one of the most expensive tight ends in this format,
Speaker 2: where I get really scared because I think he had
Speaker 2: the perfect runout last year where they were throwing all
Speaker 2: the ball so many times per game. When you draft
Speaker 2: a running back third overall, that's a telltale sign to
Speaker 2: me that, yeah, they're probably gonna try to run the
Speaker 2: ball a little bit more than last year when last
Speaker 2: year they were down to their fourth string running back,
Speaker 2: So of course you're gonna you're gonna chuck the ball.
Speaker 2: You're like, we're gonna head it to Bam Night thirty
Speaker 2: times a game Like No, but Jeremiah love Hey, they might.
Speaker 3: Try to do that.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five carries for a guy that was drafted
Speaker 2: third overall. So that's kind of my outlook on the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Marvin ER's nears the guy I like the most. But again,
Speaker 2: if I draft team don't have any Cardinals, I'm not
Speaker 2: really sweating it, to be honest.
Speaker 1: No and h and Joe King brings us up on
Speaker 1: the the YouTube chat right now. Jeremiah Love is gonna
Speaker 1: get roughly eighty targets eating from wide receivers. That's another thing.
Speaker 1: And this is this perfect storm of the Cardinals offense
Speaker 1: that we saw last year, with them getting down so
Speaker 1: early and seemingly every single game, not having a defense
Speaker 1: that could be competitive to keep them out of shootoutsu
Speaker 1: Brissette throwing the ball all over the field, setting records
Speaker 1: for most passes in a game, and and and everything
Speaker 1: like that, and and and as you mentioned it, you know,
Speaker 1: the top four running backs in Arizona's depth chart being
Speaker 1: heard at any given time. I mean that this is
Speaker 1: all exactly what you need to produce the historic season
Speaker 1: that we saw from the Arizona passing game last year.
Speaker 1: Love comes in now, too, and that's another player that
Speaker 1: they're going to try to get the ball to. And
Speaker 1: so to echo your point, I am not only am
Speaker 1: I not targeting any Cardinals this year. I might be
Speaker 1: fading all of them, and that might include Jeremiah Love.
Speaker 1: Given his given his where he's going in drafts right now,
Speaker 1: I guess he has slipped a little bit. He's now
Speaker 1: running back twelve. He's going at the two ten, right
Speaker 1: between Kenneth Walker and Derrick Henry. But that's still that's
Speaker 1: still a difficult ask for me to get a running
Speaker 1: back on a team that is going to have a
Speaker 1: lot of negative game scripts this season, that is not
Speaker 1: probably going to be a good offense, and that could
Speaker 1: be featuring Carson Beck when all the cash is being
Speaker 1: given away at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm with you when I lay my head down at night,
Speaker 1: and I don't have any Cardinals on my last draft team.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm sleeping East Harrison was part of that
Speaker 1: really good receiving class that came into the league a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Another member of that that I thought
Speaker 1: was really going to take a step forward last year
Speaker 1: and didn't was Brian Thomas Junior. Everything that could go
Speaker 1: wrong seemingly did go wrong for BTJ last year. And
Speaker 1: then we see this report from Action Sports Jacksonville on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas is quoted as saying it doesn't hurt to
Speaker 1: run anymore. End quote. I don't I didn't know this
Speaker 1: was a thing last year to Andrew, but he said
Speaker 1: that he had a lot of things, a little things
Speaker 1: that he cleaned up this offseason. A lot of clean
Speaker 1: up procedures over the last couple of months. Seems like
Speaker 1: he was trying to play through pain. Certainly, I have
Speaker 1: heard that you know, when your body is not responding
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to, it can affect the way
Speaker 1: you play. Maybe that contributed to some of those alligator
Speaker 1: arms we saw from him, especially early on in the
Speaker 1: season last year. But now, what are we saving? John
Speaker 1: Shipley from Sports Illustrated. Seemingly there's a positive report from
Speaker 1: him every single day about Brian Thomas either making a
Speaker 1: play over the middle or more importantly, deep down the field.
Speaker 1: So this really seems like Brian Thomas Junior could have
Speaker 1: at the bounce back season that a lot of people
Speaker 1: are hoping he will, and quite frankly, the price on
Speaker 1: him is right, for lack of a better term here,
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right now in FFPC Big Gorilla Drafts is
Speaker 1: going as wide receiver thirty five at the seven h six,
Speaker 1: which is now He's about a half round behind Parker
Speaker 1: Washington about this time last week, Andrew, those guys are
Speaker 1: about neck and neck, but Washington surged ahead. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna last though, with all this positive
Speaker 1: stuff coming out of Thomas. Certainly, you don't want to
Speaker 1: be hyperbolic this time of year because it is you know,
Speaker 1: helmet and shorts and not much house shoulder pads or whatever,
Speaker 1: and there's not much going on there when it comes
Speaker 1: to that. It's not quote unquote real football. But you'd
Speaker 1: love to see these reports coming out about Thomas rather
Speaker 1: than not seeing him at all. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about Thomas's chances at a bounce back season, Maybe not
Speaker 1: to get to the twenty twenty four level that he
Speaker 1: was at, but definitely better than what we saw last campaign.
Speaker 2: I think that he can definitely beat his ADP you know,
Speaker 2: wide receiver or enter into the wide receiver three conversation.
Speaker 2: But that being said, I just have reservations about the
Speaker 2: connection with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I understand that he feels healthier and he feels like
Speaker 2: he should get the ball more, But does Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: feel that way? And when Brian Thomas Junior had his
Speaker 2: massive breakout rookie year, who was his quarterback wasn't Tervor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Is Mac Jones.
Speaker 2: So that's something that's kind of holding me up from
Speaker 2: just totally because I was in and Brian Thomas Junior
Speaker 2: as a rookie, I remember betting him to lead all
Speaker 2: rookies and receiving yards and he barely got there. But
Speaker 2: he saw I end up edging out in the league
Speaker 2: name and Brock Bowers by his chinny chinchin, even though
Speaker 2: he had like thirty less catches than both of those guys.
Speaker 3: Because he was generating a lot of big plays.
Speaker 2: And I was in on him last year and obviously
Speaker 2: was an utter and complete disaster. But the thing with
Speaker 2: the Jaguars offense is a lot of moles defeat here.
Speaker 2: You know, Porker Washington has a high I think that
Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers is just the most underrated wide receiver in
Speaker 2: the NFL because all he does is go for like
Speaker 2: a thousand yards every single year and catch everything that's
Speaker 2: thrown his way and is a quarterback's best friend. They
Speaker 2: have used a lot of tight ends in Jacksonville. They
Speaker 2: throw to the running backs in Jacksonville. And they also
Speaker 2: have a guy that plays defense and also plays wide
Speaker 2: receiver in Travis Hunter, who is expected to play full
Speaker 2: time on wide receiver and a defensive back this year.
Speaker 2: So how does he kind of enter into the fold here?
Speaker 2: So I think with Brian Thomas Junior, you just question, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: can he be the number one receiver on the Jaguars? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Like? What is that trains?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that a oh he's locked alow top twenty four guy?
Speaker 2: Is he touchdown dependent? Is he really boom or bust?
Speaker 2: I think that he's kind of like all of those things.
Speaker 2: And even getting back to his days at LSU, it
Speaker 2: wasn't the outph at LSU like it was Milik Neighbors.
Speaker 2: Now again, when you're compete with the Lake Neighbors, that's
Speaker 2: not easy. But it just goes to show maybe Brian
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior really never is meant to be an alpha
Speaker 2: wide receiver. And although the planets aligned for him at
Speaker 2: the end of his rookie year with that monster season,
Speaker 2: this offense is looking a lot different than it was
Speaker 2: back then. There's a lot of new pieces and that's
Speaker 2: what concerns me. I think that what's interesting about the
Speaker 2: Jaguars the last two off seasons or last two draft seasons,
Speaker 2: the number one wide receiver drafted for the Jaguars in
Speaker 2: fantasy has not been the number one guy at the
Speaker 2: end of the year two years ago. Is Christian Kirk
Speaker 2: not the guy. Last year was Brian tom Junior not
Speaker 2: the guy.
Speaker 3: So I kind of feel like.
Speaker 2: However ADP has it set up is almost neverly going
Speaker 2: to be wrong. So it's like, so it's like, whoever
Speaker 2: the most expensive guy is, probably don't draft that guy.
Speaker 2: Draft everybody else, and you'll probably be better off in
Speaker 2: terms of your ROI. And that's not because I'm looking
Speaker 2: just because it's so such an ambiguous situation that anyone
Speaker 2: that's doing projections for the Jaguars wide receivers, it's tough
Speaker 2: man because it's like, what.
Speaker 3: Are you looking at? Like, are like what's Travis Hu?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter is such an X factor in this receiver
Speaker 2: room too, what happens if there's an injury? So that's
Speaker 2: kind of like my take on again, I feel I
Speaker 2: don't feel great about fading the Jaguars pieces because I
Speaker 2: do like this offensive lot, especially with Trevor Lawrence, but
Speaker 2: the step he looked after the first five weeks in
Speaker 2: Cohen's offense, So this isn't like that Cardinals where I
Speaker 2: feel like I can just fully fade, But I feel
Speaker 2: like you got to take some shots here and there
Speaker 2: on some of these Jaguars receivers and Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 2: I don't want to just forget what he did as
Speaker 2: a rookie because it was so fantastic, But as of
Speaker 2: right now, he's not someone that I'm trying to go
Speaker 2: out of a way targeting just because I don't know
Speaker 2: if he has it that built in chemistry with Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence like we've seen, I mean Trevor Lawrence. How long
Speaker 2: did it take fromim to bill chemisry with Kobe Myers
Speaker 2: like one game the Trader Ferm, whereas it always seemed
Speaker 2: like he was butting heads with Brian Thomas Junior. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they can hit out a couple of big plays. He'll
Speaker 2: hit your best ball lineup as a result, but I'm
Speaker 2: not sure he's going to be dominating targets in this offense.
Speaker 1: Thomas is now going more than two full rounds ahead
Speaker 1: of one Jacoby Myers in Jacksonville in the FFPC Big Gorilla.
Speaker 1: I think back to last week when we had Chris
Speaker 1: Weck from Fantasy Points on it. He kind of said
Speaker 1: a lot of what you're saying too, where he's not
Speaker 1: necessarily targeting any of these Jaguars, but he says he
Speaker 1: always likes to leave each one of his drafts with
Speaker 1: one piece of this Jaguars passing game. Whether that's Myers
Speaker 1: or Thomas or Washington or Strange. He's always trying to
Speaker 1: make sure he gets a piece of it. And I
Speaker 1: think that's a smart way to do it, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, not loading up, especially with how nebulous
Speaker 1: this situation is for the pass catchers, but making sure
Speaker 1: you're acquiring pieces it could end up paying off down
Speaker 1: the stretch in the long run. Here, I want to
Speaker 1: keep the conversation on the Jacksonville Jaguars here and we
Speaker 1: go to the backfield here, and I know that Andrew
Speaker 1: you have some thoughts on this, so I'll just kind
Speaker 1: of let you go. But Jacksonville dot Com had a
Speaker 1: report on Monday from Ryan o'haller and that Chris Rodriguez
Speaker 1: is expected to be a full go by training camp.
Speaker 1: Earlier this offseason, he had surgery on his left foot,
Speaker 1: did not participate in OTAs because he's still recovering from that.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he will not be participating in mini camp
Speaker 1: as well, but training camp could be a different story.
Speaker 1: Rodriguez and base shall tuton, you know, there's truthers on
Speaker 1: both sides of these guys right now as we head
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty six season, during the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six drafting season, right now, you have definitely planned your
Speaker 1: flag on one of these guys. I love to hear
Speaker 1: you tell the viewers why you have done it and
Speaker 1: why you expect to be on the correct side of
Speaker 1: this call right now this year.
Speaker 2: I'm on the base all Tuton side of things here.
Speaker 2: I think that he's going in appropriate range in drafts
Speaker 2: where he's being drafted as a late end RB two,
Speaker 2: but I think he has top fifteen, maybe even back
Speaker 2: into RB one upside because I think ultimately with push cups,
Speaker 2: he's the much more talented running back than Chris Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez can only do one thing, really really well.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, it's pick up a couple of yards
Speaker 2: in between the tackles. He's not explosive, he doesn't use
Speaker 2: he complete zero in the passing game. And I think
Speaker 2: that Bachell two and what he showed last year when
Speaker 2: the team took Travis Etn off the field to put
Speaker 2: Bachelle two in red zone packages, I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez as a red zone threat to Bachell two.
Speaker 2: I really think that he's going to be the guy.
Speaker 2: And the thing that I always think back, you know,
Speaker 2: scouting Bachell two, and he was one of the players
Speaker 2: that I got to meet at the NFL Draft when
Speaker 2: they were doing the podiums.
Speaker 3: It was really cool.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of people at his podium, but he
Speaker 2: was something that I had done some research on beforehand,
Speaker 2: so I knew, like, hey, this guy's like pretty exciting
Speaker 2: and just a great guy to talk to and not
Speaker 2: trying to be like, oh, this is my guy. But
Speaker 2: I had a lot of confidence in Bachell two. And
Speaker 2: what he did at the college level was rip off
Speaker 2: explosive plays. He had almost a fifty percent breakaway run
Speaker 2: rate during his college career. Last season, that breakaway run
Speaker 2: rate was at ten percent. It was bottom five in
Speaker 2: the NFL. And I think that has to do with
Speaker 2: not that he's not explosive, because he is. He has speed.
Speaker 2: We know that we saw him around forty yard dash
Speaker 2: in blazing time.
Speaker 3: He has the juice.
Speaker 2: But I think last year he was a Day three
Speaker 2: running back, rookie running back who entered the NFL with
Speaker 2: some ball security issues, so maybe thinking a lot more
Speaker 2: than playing fast. I think entering year two another year
Speaker 2: in Liam Cohen's offense, where everybody feels a little bit
Speaker 2: more comfortable in the offensive environment, including the quarterback. I
Speaker 2: think you're gonna see the juice of Tooton this year.
Speaker 2: You're gonna see his expulsiveness out in front. I think
Speaker 2: the coaches are gonna see that, and especially compared to
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez, who look call spade of space. He's a
Speaker 2: plotter running back, like he's not an exciting running back.
Speaker 2: And yes it's coaches love when you can pick up
Speaker 2: three yards when you need exactly three yards. But Tuton
Speaker 2: did that last year too. He had the same high
Speaker 2: success rates Chris Rodriguez. He had the same yards after
Speaker 2: contact for attempt at christ Rodriguez. So I just think
Speaker 2: that Bashelle Tutin can do everything Chris Rodriguez can do,
Speaker 2: and more so, why waste your time with Chris Rodriguez
Speaker 2: in the first place. I do think that the first
Speaker 2: couple weeks of the year, it's gonna be annoying, like
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Chris Rodriguez. Maybe he's gonna start the
Speaker 2: game and everyone is gonna freak out about Bachell tuned.
Speaker 2: So even if you don't draft him, obviously you have
Speaker 2: to draft them best ball drafts because you won't have
Speaker 2: access to the waiver wire. But in re draft leagues,
Speaker 2: I can guarantee he's gonna be one of my favorite
Speaker 2: guys to trade for after Week one if I don't
Speaker 2: already have him on my roster, because I think that
Speaker 2: we've seen this kind of play out before, and and
Speaker 2: Pat Krane mentioned this, I think on his podcast a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. But how is this not different
Speaker 2: from the Zach Moss and Chase Brown scenario, where like,
Speaker 2: you clearly have a guy with so much juice that okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be annoying, Zach Moss is the veteran whatever.
Speaker 2: And then I know that Zach Moss ended up getting
Speaker 2: injured that season. But Chris Rodriguez is already recovering from
Speaker 2: an injury. He's also dealt with injuries a lot as
Speaker 2: a part time player. He's a twenty six year old
Speaker 2: journeyman running back who wouldn't have bean sniffed the field
Speaker 2: last year if Brian Robinson again, another pretty jag running
Speaker 2: back hadn't got. But he's spending time with Jeremy, with
Speaker 2: Nichols and Jacorey krossky Merritt, who is a seventh round rookie,
Speaker 2: and he didn't even like assert himself to be the
Speaker 2: dominant running back in that backfield. So I just don't
Speaker 2: think that he has any staying power as a threat
Speaker 2: in this offense. I think that Liam Coen brought him
Speaker 2: in because he's familiar with him, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I need three yards. I can getree arts with Chris Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: But if Bachell Tutin really captures what he can be
Speaker 2: upside of what he's actually capable of doing, I think
Speaker 2: that they're going to realize, oh yeah, we could just
Speaker 2: use Twoton on everything instead, and like we don't need
Speaker 2: to waste our time using Chris Rodriguez. So definitely not
Speaker 2: drafting Chris Rodriguez, definitely drafting Bachell two, and especially with
Speaker 2: I think his price is fine where it is.
Speaker 3: He's not like super super expensive. I actually am not.
Speaker 2: Surprised he's not more expensive than he is. So I
Speaker 2: think that you hear shooting for upside in this RB
Speaker 2: two range. I think that Tutin looks like that guy
Speaker 2: for me, Tooting.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking it up right now running back twenty
Speaker 1: six at the five to ten, which is after swift
Speaker 1: engineering Price, it's before Hubbard and Jalen Warren. Adam Han
Speaker 1: brings us up to if Rodriguez was was any good,
Speaker 1: he'd still be watching. But there's like whose backfield is
Speaker 1: not good? Right? Like essentially Rodriguez left a very uncertain
Speaker 1: backfield in Washington or they let him go and now
Speaker 1: he's in Jacksonville. The the last point I want to
Speaker 1: make about Touton and just let you wan this. Does
Speaker 1: does laquin Allen figure into stealing pass catches or targets
Speaker 1: in that backfield at all where that would maybe be
Speaker 1: a ding against Teuton? Or do you think that's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a thing this year Laquinn Allen.
Speaker 2: I do think it's possible that quiloquent Allen is more
Speaker 2: involved in the pass catching games. So I think that
Speaker 2: would hurt baseeall Tuton from you know, turning out a
Speaker 2: top ten type of season. I think for me, when
Speaker 2: I try to compare it to what's Bajaell Tuton's upside,
Speaker 2: I think it's probably Bucky Irving rookie year under Leam Cohen.
Speaker 2: Because you remember in that offense, you had three guys,
Speaker 2: you had Buckier being Sean Tucker and Rashad White. And
Speaker 2: then if let's say they use they do similar things
Speaker 2: in this Jacksonville Jaguars backfield where Tooton plays the Irving role,
Speaker 2: Rashad or what Quinn Allen is in the Rashad White role,
Speaker 2: and then you have Chris Ardriguez in the Shan Tucker role.
Speaker 2: So even with all that scenario playing out, buck you
Speaker 2: Irving was still a back end fantasy RB one and
Speaker 2: still had a over a thousand yards from scrimmage, was
Speaker 2: really productive. Again, wasn't the primary pass catcher, but still
Speaker 2: caught enough passes where he was in a total zero.
Speaker 3: Which Christopher, you can take catcha passes.
Speaker 2: He's never caught passes any And I know that these
Speaker 2: guys say, yeah, like they just didn't use me in
Speaker 2: the passing game. It's like, yeah, because you're probably not
Speaker 2: effective and they're not gonna throw me the.
Speaker 3: Ball if just gonna fall down and not pick up yards.
Speaker 2: So I think that that's probably the thing that would
Speaker 2: slow down or limit his like true true ceiling. But
Speaker 2: again with Quinn Allen. It's not like he's a super
Speaker 2: talented player. I know that they like him in past
Speaker 2: the protection, but I think that he play. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you're in the twentieth round of some of these drafts,
Speaker 2: like Quinn Allen is kind of someone that I'm a
Speaker 2: little interested into, Like, all right, is this role real
Speaker 2: as a receiver out of the backfield, Like it's an
Speaker 2: offense we're excited about. He's really really cheap, So I
Speaker 2: don't think that he's like so like, I mean, he's
Speaker 2: someone that I was considered round twenty.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 1: The conversation moves from Jacksonville to Seattle. Here for us
Speaker 1: next to Andrew the reporter or one of the team
Speaker 1: reporters for the website for the Seahawks, John Boyle wrote
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks are expecting more from Rashid Shaheed when
Speaker 1: it comes to what he's going to do offensively, not
Speaker 1: necessarily special teams. And what I think is interesting about
Speaker 1: Shaheed and I was one of these people when he
Speaker 1: got traded mid season from New Orleans to Seattle. I
Speaker 1: expected him to take a significant leap forward fantasy wise.
Speaker 1: I was of the opinion that what Smith and Jigba
Speaker 1: had done up until that point was not sustainable over
Speaker 1: the course of the season. I really didn't think we
Speaker 1: were going to see Cooper cupp all of a sudd
Speaker 1: resurge at the end of the season, and Tory Horton
Speaker 1: was dealing with an injury too, So I just thought,
Speaker 1: this is the perfect scenario for Shaheed to come in,
Speaker 1: make some noise and be fantasy worthy, perhaps even as
Speaker 1: high as a top thirty receiver. The rest of the way,
Speaker 1: it did not happen. From Week ten on he only
Speaker 1: catches eighteen passes, fails to notch two hundred and seventy yards,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. That's from Week ten through the playoffs, all
Speaker 1: the way through the Super Bowl as well, and then
Speaker 1: Seattle goes out. They extend them three years fifty one million,
Speaker 1: and certainly this would make sense that Cooper cup would
Speaker 1: start to take a back seat to some of these
Speaker 1: younger guys like Shaheed and Horton this year. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think for me, seeing what I saw last year
Speaker 1: from Shaheed, or perhaps the better way to say it,
Speaker 1: the lack of what I saw from him last year,
Speaker 1: definitely gives me pause before I draft a player like
Speaker 1: this that I think is a hashtag betteran best ball guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to draft this guy
Speaker 1: in a managed league because I don't know when the
Speaker 1: big players are coming. And quite frankly, after the stars
Speaker 1: seemingly aligned for Shaheed last year and he turned that
Speaker 1: into eighteen catches over ten weeks or eleven weeks or
Speaker 1: whatever it was, I'm not getting the warm fuzzies despite
Speaker 1: what John Boyle is reporting here, and despite the contract
Speaker 1: extension he got. Perhaps I'm wrong and you feel differently
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: No, he's definitely a hard player to kind of feel
Speaker 2: good about. I think that we feel good about his
Speaker 2: talent as a player. I think that Shaheed has shown
Speaker 2: that there were times when he was competing with targets
Speaker 2: with Chris Lave where their production wasn't too far off
Speaker 2: from each other when both guys were on the field,
Speaker 2: And to your point, at the beginning of last year
Speaker 2: in the Saints offense that was all about target volume,
Speaker 2: Shahee was putting up some pretty solid stats in this
Speaker 2: in the Kellen Moore offense. Do you think that Okay
Speaker 2: dropping in with Kubiak, someone that he's familiar with, they
Speaker 2: can get him fully integrated, But I think he just
Speaker 2: got kind of caught behind the eight ball and everything
Speaker 2: was working so well with the Seahawks were doing. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he did flash a little bit down the stretch in
Speaker 2: the playoffs with a couple of big plays, and ultimately
Speaker 2: the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. So I know, she
Speaker 2: Heat doesn't seem like he was like the biggest factor
Speaker 2: that but hey, like he makes one big play in
Speaker 2: a playoff game, Hey we'll take it.
Speaker 3: Like we don't care what we had to trade away.
Speaker 2: To get him. We won the Super Bowl. That's all
Speaker 2: really that matters. And then they paid him this offseason.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a guarantee he would come back to the Seahawks,
Speaker 2: especially with Kubiak going to the Raiders. You know they
Speaker 2: could use another wide receiver. So I was surprised that
Speaker 2: they didn't try to make a bid for Rashiji Heat,
Speaker 2: or maybe they just got priced out. But you look
Speaker 2: at the way the Seahawks are structured now Kubiak is gone.
Speaker 2: They have a new office Cornier coming in from the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. They're paying a lot to wide receivers.
Speaker 2: Jaysen also signed a big extension contract this offseason. They
Speaker 2: signed Rashiji Heat. They made sure that Jake Bobo did
Speaker 2: not leave the building. I know the Jaguars like put
Speaker 2: in a tender. I also like that'll kind of caught
Speaker 2: my eye as like, are we gonna get more passes
Speaker 2: in this offense? Are we gonna put a little bit
Speaker 2: more on our quarterback Sam Donald versus well, we lost
Speaker 2: Walker Charbonay is injured. We did draft Daring Price we
Speaker 2: were excited about, but he's still a rookie. Are we
Speaker 2: gonna put everything on our rookie? Are we gonna put
Speaker 2: on our super Bowl winning quarterback? I think I kind
Speaker 2: of leaned towards the ladder. So I think that Shaheed,
Speaker 2: because he's really talented. I think that best ball is
Speaker 2: still a really good format for him. He can make
Speaker 2: plays even on low volume. And Sam Donald has a
Speaker 2: pretty nice deep ball.
Speaker 3: We've seen him work with some of these receivers in
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit more optimistic that he kind
Speaker 2: of turned things around with a full offseason install into
Speaker 2: this new offense, because again, the offense is gonna have
Speaker 2: new wrinkles to it, So I don't think he will
Speaker 2: initially be behind the eight ball as much as he
Speaker 2: was kind of going on the fly last year, even
Speaker 2: though it was Kubiak, So I think it's just kind
Speaker 2: of it was just a little strange, like how uninvolved
Speaker 2: he was last year. But I think maybe it's because
Speaker 2: the Seahawks were just like running the ball and playing
Speaker 2: great defense and Sam Donald was just cooking with Jasen.
Speaker 2: It's like, let's not change this up, Like we're like
Speaker 2: we're dominating games, like we don't need Like Shaheed was gravy,
Speaker 2: we didn't have to use it last year till the
Speaker 2: very end. So I think this year, maybe they do
Speaker 2: need it a little bit more if the run game
Speaker 2: isn't as good as effective because of the you know,
Speaker 2: the change of running back.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. They never had the fear put
Speaker 1: in him that they needed to change anything up down
Speaker 1: the stretch last season. If you keep winning and you're
Speaker 1: keeping you know, keeping on dominating teams via your you know,
Speaker 1: your dual running back scenario that you have in that backfield,
Speaker 1: the dominant defense that you had, you know, why do
Speaker 1: you feel compelled to switch anything to try to get
Speaker 1: Shaheed more involved? To your point, this year, different team,
Speaker 1: different season, maybe a different approach for Rashid Shaheed and
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. They are on offense. We go to
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Now the big easy. Sarah pel Cheski, Pelchus, Pelchowski, Pelchowski.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a report earlier this week, Andrew,
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore says he's excited to get Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: quote in the fold. Now. He did not go as
Speaker 1: far to say that Kamara is going to be on
Speaker 1: the team this year, but he is preparing as if
Speaker 1: Kamara will be in the backfield for New Orleans this year.
Speaker 1: I think at this point of his career, excuse me,
Speaker 1: he's probably closer to Devin Neil, Kendra Miller than he
Speaker 1: is Travis Etchien. But Kellen Moore might see it differently.
Speaker 1: This is not an Alvin Kamara question for you, Andrew,
Speaker 1: but for those people, myself included, who assume that Travis
Speaker 1: at Chien was going to be this three down back
Speaker 1: for New Orleans this year. How much of a monkey
Speaker 1: wrench is Kamara throwing into these plans? And do you
Speaker 1: believe that he's going to still be on the team
Speaker 1: come week one of the season.
Speaker 3: Man, this is such a loaded situation.
Speaker 2: I just I just hate his entire situation because I
Speaker 2: wish they would just be honest with us about Alvin
Speaker 2: Kamara and hey, like he's not gonna be on the team,
Speaker 2: like we're not. And I get they're trying to I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to respect the player because he is
Speaker 2: a Saints lifer. You know, one of the best Saints
Speaker 2: probably ever, especially at the running back position, one of
Speaker 2: the best fantasy football players ever. Who could forget that
Speaker 2: game Onchristmas were he scored? Like yeah, like that that's
Speaker 2: like just something that you always remember, especially someone that
Speaker 2: is so into people that are watching you me about
Speaker 2: that love fantasy football. Everybody remembers that game and it's
Speaker 2: like Alvin Kamara. That being said, that's in the past.
Speaker 2: We're talking about twenty twenty six, and I think that
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara is more like end of career Dalvin Cook
Speaker 2: Austin ec Like, I just think that this is like
Speaker 2: the be this is the end. Like his rushing efficiency
Speaker 2: has been terrible over the last couple of years. The
Speaker 2: Saints were one of the worst teams in terms of
Speaker 2: rushing EPA last year, and that lot was cause of
Speaker 2: Alvim Kamara. Yes, still one of the most dynamic pass
Speaker 2: catchers in the NFL at the running back position. But
Speaker 2: how much more is he doing really after the catch anymore?
Speaker 2: How much more juice is he offering? So I think
Speaker 2: it's sooner rather than later that the team just kind
Speaker 2: of like decides to cut ties with Alvin Kamara. So
Speaker 2: any discount that I'm getting on Travis a Chan as
Speaker 2: a result of those that believe Alvin Kamara is going
Speaker 2: to play a focal point in this offense. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: if it's not Kamara, they'll probably get someone else involved.
Speaker 2: I just think that it's going to be a chance
Speaker 2: they paid him for a reason in free agency. He's
Speaker 2: still in a good spot age wise, not super old. Look, Kamara,
Speaker 2: I just think this time has come kind of for
Speaker 2: the Saints. And I know that he said he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to play for any other team, So it's like
Speaker 2: week one. Is he more likely on the Saints on
Speaker 2: another team or in Cankun? I mean, how am I
Speaker 2: bad on Cancun at this point?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The the etch thing is interesting too, because I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, you tell me how much of
Speaker 1: a discount this is, Andrew, But he's still going as
Speaker 1: running back fifteen at the three oh seven. Now, the
Speaker 1: other thing to consider, it looks like Tyler Schuck in
Speaker 1: this in this offense, they're going to take a step
Speaker 1: forward this year. They have Kellen Moore, who's a really
Speaker 1: good play caller, who's always wants to just go, go, go,
Speaker 1: go go. They run a lot of plays, all great
Speaker 1: stuff for the Saints. They play in a dome, they
Speaker 1: play and in that NFC South Division that I mentioned,
Speaker 1: could be ripe for shootouts this year. If we find
Speaker 1: out that Kamara is you know, cut, or is he
Speaker 1: is he's traded or he retires or whatever, how much
Speaker 1: room does et Chien have to move up from the
Speaker 1: three oh seven and running back fifteen. I feel like
Speaker 1: he'd move up a little bit, But I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're gonna see anything significant, would we I.
Speaker 3: Don't think anything too significant.
Speaker 2: I think that the price point because what's Alvin Kamara's
Speaker 2: adp rb D sixty. So I think that the market
Speaker 2: is telling you, at least the fantasy full market is
Speaker 2: telling you that, yeah, Kellen Morgan say whatever he wants
Speaker 2: about Alvira Khmara, we're not buying that he's going to
Speaker 2: be a big part of his offense. And why should
Speaker 2: he be really he wasn't really effective last year, the
Speaker 2: team decided to go in a different direction and sign
Speaker 2: this highly touted free agent running back with Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2: I think it's really just them trying to respect the player,
Speaker 2: to be honest, and I think I.
Speaker 3: Mean they did last year with Taysom Hill, right, they
Speaker 3: had a whole week.
Speaker 2: Of like, we're gonna have Taysom Hill Week and he's
Speaker 2: gonna have a monster game, and then he did, and
Speaker 2: then some of us in the fantasy space bit on
Speaker 2: it in the next week. He did not think because
Speaker 2: it wasn't the Taysom Hill Week anymore. So the same
Speaker 2: like that good franchise. But I think m push comes
Speaker 2: to show I also have an RB fifteen, and that's
Speaker 2: considering that. I don't really think Kamara is going to
Speaker 2: be a big part of this offense, if he's even
Speaker 2: on the roster. But as we always see with news,
Speaker 2: it just drives ADP. AJ Brown to the Patriots was
Speaker 2: basically a four gone conclusion, and then after the trade happened,
Speaker 2: his ADP went up anyway.
Speaker 3: Same thing with DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 2: His ADP went up anyway after age Brown got traded,
Speaker 2: even though it was ninety nine percent sure that Age
Speaker 2: Brown was going to get traded. So maybe he ends
Speaker 2: up going and sneak into the top twelve, goes ahead
Speaker 2: with some other receivers other positions. But I think that
Speaker 2: RB fifteen is is a good range for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you're right. It probably will go
Speaker 1: up just because that's what we do. But to your point,
Speaker 1: I don't think he makes it into the second round.
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at early third round at the most.
Speaker 1: If anything, I mean, it should be something given the
Speaker 1: other players that you make and how we're treating him,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think it's gonna be huge. Mary
Speaker 1: kay Cabot. This was earlier today. Jerry Judy did not
Speaker 1: practice at mandatory mini camp. Today. Judy is saying he
Speaker 1: felt something in his hamstring, so he sat out. Todd
Speaker 1: Monkin says he does not give veteran rest days right now,
Speaker 1: so this was clearly an injury thing or they're being
Speaker 1: cautious at least to not make it worse. And the
Speaker 1: question here for you, Andrew is sort of twofold number one.
Speaker 1: Who are you taking as the as the best value
Speaker 1: for Brown's wide receivers right now? And then number two.
Speaker 1: How much value is there, Like, how significant are these
Speaker 1: guys going to be for fantasy Concepcion is a ten
Speaker 1: to eleven turn pick, Denzel Boston is going at the
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen turn, and then Jerry Judy at the sixteen
Speaker 1: seventeen turn. When when you look at I know Boston's
Speaker 1: been performing well. Daniel Owiefussi had the report for ESPN,
Speaker 1: say he's been one of the standouts of Brown's camp
Speaker 1: so far. I don't know which one I view as
Speaker 1: the best value. Maybe you can tell me what one
Speaker 1: you view is the best value, and then whether how
Speaker 1: significant this is going to be for our fantasy football
Speaker 1: teams this year, given that none of these guys have
Speaker 1: single digit round ADP at the.
Speaker 2: Moment, I think that the two rookies are good values
Speaker 2: just where they're going.
Speaker 3: I think that it's a simple bet on.
Speaker 2: I just think that these players are really talented, and
Speaker 2: they're going in late enough in drafts where I'll kind
Speaker 2: of let the situation play itself out. I think that
Speaker 2: Conception Own was worth a first round real life pick
Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns. I think that he fits exactly
Speaker 2: what Todd Munkin wants. He has a Za Flowers type
Speaker 2: of skill set, although he's bigger than Zay Flowers, so
Speaker 2: a little bit heavier, which means I think he can
Speaker 2: handle maybe a little bit more of a workload, especially.
Speaker 3: His rookie year.
Speaker 2: I means say Flowers his rookie season was very productive
Speaker 2: in Todd Monkin type of offense. So I do think
Speaker 2: that mon can see similarities between a guy he had
Speaker 2: in Baltimore with Casey and conception On And the thing
Speaker 2: with Concept Jan he does so much after the catch
Speaker 2: that it makes it a little less dependent on what
Speaker 2: potentially is bad quarterback play, right, That's what we're kind
Speaker 2: of worried about here. It's like Deshaun Watson, Sure Sanders, Well,
Speaker 2: if they're just getting the ball to concepttion On on bubble
Speaker 2: screens and then he just breaks a tackle, rips off
Speaker 2: thirty yards, who cares how bad the quarterback play is?
Speaker 3: Like he's making those plays. So I like Concept Jon.
Speaker 2: I think that he's a little less quarterback dependent than
Speaker 2: someone like Denzel Boston, where he should be dominating in
Speaker 2: the early summer right as that type of big bodied
Speaker 2: red zone threat where it's a lot of routes on air.
Speaker 2: This is where those guys tend to look really good
Speaker 2: where there really is no pressure on the quarterback and
Speaker 2: they can kind of just loft the ball up there.
Speaker 2: So again, I like both players at their prices. I
Speaker 2: think both are buying into. But I think the concept
Speaker 2: Sean is going to lead this team in targets probably.
Speaker 2: I get Harold Fannon is still involved out rookie season
Speaker 2: at the tight end position, But concept, I think is
Speaker 2: a really really talented player. And I think my first
Speaker 2: round pick in the tenth round signed.
Speaker 1: Off for that conceptcion Is is the guy I would
Speaker 1: be putting my money on if I had to. I'm
Speaker 1: still a little bit nervous to see how this how
Speaker 1: often this offense is on the field, and how much
Speaker 1: action he gets. I think Judy is a fine best
Speaker 1: ball dart throw and Boston is a guy I just
Speaker 1: I really don't know what to think about the You know,
Speaker 1: I see people drafting him in rookie drafts and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, you know, how how is I mean? I
Speaker 1: certainly I guess he there's a non zero chance that
Speaker 1: he does become the number one there at some point
Speaker 1: on his rookie contract. I'm just seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: obstacles in front of him, whether it's quarterback play, whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, conceptsi On and Harold Fannins is another
Speaker 1: guy that they're gonna get involved quite a bit. It
Speaker 1: looks like they got a pretty good running back in
Speaker 1: Quinn Shawn Judkins, So I think Conceptsion is the guy
Speaker 1: I like. I didn't understand the Boston pick, but I
Speaker 1: might be proven wrong by the Cleveland Browns going forward.
Speaker 1: Boston is in his first year in the league, and
Speaker 1: we know he's going to be a Brown. Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 1: has been in the league for several years and we
Speaker 1: have no idea where he's going to be playing this year.
Speaker 1: California authorities issued a warrant for Brandon Ayuk's arrest Andrew.
Speaker 1: If we've been paying attention to social media, Ayuk has
Speaker 1: had some rants indirectly directed. I guess at the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers brass in the front office there. I just
Speaker 1: picked him as my seventh wide receiver in like the
Speaker 1: sixteenth or seventeenth round of a draft. I'm in right now,
Speaker 1: and it's a managed league, So if it rolls out
Speaker 1: as a route rolls into September and I have to
Speaker 1: submit waiver claims, and Ayuk is still, you know, in
Speaker 1: the same spot he's in right now. He's an easy
Speaker 1: cut for me, and that's why I picked him because
Speaker 1: I still do see some upside here. How much upside
Speaker 1: do you see? And at what point in drafts would
Speaker 1: you be willing to Ayuk onto your roster?
Speaker 2: Drafted Ayuk in the eighteenth round when we were drafting
Speaker 2: on Monday, myself and Tom Strack and on the Fantasy
Speaker 2: Pro channel. So I don't think there's ever a click
Speaker 2: on a brand new Yuke where man that feels so
Speaker 2: good because we don't know what's gonna happen there. There's
Speaker 2: no one confident except I mean brand new Yuk doesn't
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen because the forty nine ers are
Speaker 2: staying pat with no, we're not gonna release you for
Speaker 2: nothing when we want someone to trade for you, and
Speaker 2: they don't have to release him, so it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's why he's upset, because he just wants
Speaker 2: to play for a different team because he knows he's
Speaker 2: not gonna play with the forty nine ers, but they
Speaker 2: have his contract and because he's on the I think
Speaker 2: it's like the NFI list, or it's on like one
Speaker 2: of those lists where it doesn't count of gets the
Speaker 2: ninety man roster, so they don't have to pay him.
Speaker 2: So they really have no incentive to just like let
Speaker 2: him go. Besides, like we want to be a good organization.
Speaker 2: But clearly the fact that he has been ghosting them
Speaker 2: this entire time with his injury, that forty and I
Speaker 2: don't really feel obligated to, you know, do right by
Speaker 2: Brandon Nayuk unless you know someone comes to the table
Speaker 2: with a trade.
Speaker 3: So the commanders make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: I know that he's I think even on some of
Speaker 2: his videos he's like wearing a commander's hat or something
Speaker 2: like that. I'd be like, yeah, I want to be
Speaker 2: watched a pan and makes sense. But Jadan Daniels has
Speaker 2: connection gating back to college, so I think right now
Speaker 2: it's just you gotta kind of like crress the button
Speaker 2: and just whatever, because you know how much upside he
Speaker 2: has as a talent. I know, we haven't seen him
Speaker 2: play in over a year, but you get seventy eight
Speaker 2: percent of brand nay Yuk maybe attached to Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 2: That's better than everyone else. That's going into eighteenth round, Like,
Speaker 2: that's like my main point is, like, just who's being
Speaker 2: drafted around? Yeah, he could be a total zero, no
Speaker 2: doubt about it, But what about all the other guys
Speaker 2: going the eighteenth nineteen twentyth round. I would I guess
Speaker 2: my argument is the upside case for a Yuke is
Speaker 2: so much clearer and better and higher than so many
Speaker 2: of these other guys. That's kind of why I feel
Speaker 2: like Ayuk isn't okay click right now. Obviously could be
Speaker 2: a zero, just probably blow up and do nothing, but
Speaker 2: I think the upside is kind of worth especially with
Speaker 2: it basically being free. So eighteenth round for me, that's
Speaker 2: where I took him and I didn't I basically I
Speaker 2: think tweeted it after two I said, brand now you
Speaker 2: can eighteenth round. I don't know about it, man, but
Speaker 2: like whatever I was, like, that's kind of how I
Speaker 2: feel about it.
Speaker 1: I you probably with the best track record of any
Speaker 1: eighteenth round wide receiver that you can get this year,
Speaker 1: so certainly he's done it before. And if he does
Speaker 1: end up in Washington, that seems like such a cozy
Speaker 1: spot for him where he can easily assume the number
Speaker 1: two roll. There something that he did for years in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Give Antonio Williams, you know, some valuable reps
Speaker 1: at three. But you don't need to be counting on
Speaker 1: him if you're Washington in his rookie year, because you
Speaker 1: can have by you come aboard the other aspect to
Speaker 1: I don't know what that kneedes like, he didn't play
Speaker 1: all of last year, so that there's certainly something to
Speaker 1: do with that too. Now. I think what would be
Speaker 1: interesting Andrew is, let's say the Niners did release him
Speaker 1: or or the Commander's traded for him, and not not
Speaker 1: if the commander's traded for him, beg your pardon if
Speaker 1: the if the Niners did outright release him and he's
Speaker 1: just hanging out there for like a week and then
Speaker 1: two weeks, it's like, Okay, we kind of know how
Speaker 1: the NFL feels about this guy. Maybe we should feel
Speaker 1: the same way. But but it is interesting, and and
Speaker 1: Iukas is still a He's still a fun click at
Speaker 1: that point, uh later on in the draft where you
Speaker 1: don't know but it could it could could be good.
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to bring up here in this segment,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw some ADPs at you that might
Speaker 1: shock you because they shocked me. Omar Kelly covers the
Speaker 1: Dolphins for the Miami Herald and he says Kevin Coleman
Speaker 1: Junior should be the starting slot receiver for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: this year. He says he believes that Coleman is the
Speaker 1: best rookie receiver they have for Miami. And and if
Speaker 1: you look at how f FPC players are treating this
Speaker 1: Dolphins receiving game right now, it's it's pretty interesting. H
Speaker 1: Chan is a second round pick right now, Andrew in
Speaker 1: the f f SE big Gorilla. The next Dolphin off
Speaker 1: the board is Greg Dulsic in the fourteenth round. Again
Speaker 1: tight end premium scoring, So that's why you see Dulcie
Speaker 1: as the next one. Caleb Douglass in the fifteenth is
Speaker 1: the top receiver drafted on average from Miami in this
Speaker 1: Chris Bell in the sixteenth, then you get into Malik
Speaker 1: Washington in the nineteenth. Coleman is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1: What's your sort of how dialed in are you to
Speaker 1: Dolphins receivers this year? Are there any potential difference makers
Speaker 1: on this squad? I love Chris Bell for dynasty for redraft,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man I just don't know how effective
Speaker 1: he's going to be year one.
Speaker 2: I do like Greg Dulsis a lot, so he's definitely
Speaker 2: the guy that I gravitate towards the most. I think
Speaker 2: that he flashed really early talent as a rookie his
Speaker 2: first year. I keep bringing this up because I think
Speaker 2: it's important, But he was valued higher in Dynasty than
Speaker 2: Trey McBride after their rookie seasons because of what Dulson
Speaker 2: did and what Trey McBride didn't do because he was
Speaker 2: stuck behind zach Ertz. So that was a real thing,
Speaker 2: and obviously the careers couldn't have been trained out differently.
Speaker 2: I know we have a comment here from Adam halland
Speaker 2: two five to two three about dults can't stand the field.
Speaker 2: Totally agree, like that has been his bugaboo. Been really
Speaker 2: injury prone for the most of his NFL career, but
Speaker 2: he's only twenty six years old. Flashed a lot in
Speaker 2: yards out to catch perception, trailing only my guy last year,
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft. Greg Dulcich was second yards ap to catch
Speaker 2: perception elite in yards per out run among tight ends.
Speaker 2: Now a little bit of a small sample size, but
Speaker 2: look the Dolphins brought him back. He has familiarity with
Speaker 2: the offensive coaching staff there, so I think And one
Speaker 2: thing that was really glaring to me that stood out
Speaker 2: was on a podcast with the new GM was asked, Okay,
Speaker 2: who do you expect to take a major leap this year?
Speaker 2: This is Greg Dulsch, right like, So that to me
Speaker 2: was just like wow, Like, that's pretty bold of a
Speaker 2: stance to make on a player that you signed like
Speaker 2: a one year contract to. But I just believe that
Speaker 2: there's a talent with Greg Dolcic. We see tight end
Speaker 2: breakouts later in their careers all the time.
Speaker 3: He's only twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: And what's the number one thing you need with tight
Speaker 2: and just a path to relevance, a path to targets?
Speaker 3: Does he have that in Miami?
Speaker 2: Clearly because you just listed off all the wide receivers,
Speaker 2: there's not many good ones there. To the point about
Speaker 2: Omar Kelly about Kevin Coleman Junior, I don't disagree with
Speaker 2: him because but I think this requires context where I
Speaker 2: think Caleb Douglas was a clear reach for a player
Speaker 2: in the third round. He was not on my raidar whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And Chris Bell is currently injured. So so like the
Speaker 2: bar for Kevin Coleman that I would be the best
Speaker 2: rookie wide receiver, it's not necessarily super super hard. I'm
Speaker 2: not surprised that like he would be maybe the guy
Speaker 2: over in the Leak Washington. He's kind of view as
Speaker 2: the Veterans thought player, but he's also attached to the
Speaker 2: previous regime, so they have no incentive like, oh, we
Speaker 2: gotta get Leak Washington involved. Not necessarily the case. I
Speaker 2: think it does behooves them to get see what they
Speaker 2: got out Vin Coleman, who I did actually kind of
Speaker 2: like a little bit as a prospect. I know Derek
Speaker 2: Brown is also a big fan of Kevin Coleman. Kind
Speaker 2: of looked at him as like a discounted version of
Speaker 2: Antonio Williams, which.
Speaker 3: I could kind of buy into.
Speaker 2: So again, of all these Dolphins players, would Kevin Coleman
Speaker 2: Round twenty is probably the one that I liked the most,
Speaker 2: aside from Greg Dulsich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dulsic, I just drafted non tight end premium scoring
Speaker 1: as my backup tight end and a draft them in
Speaker 1: and I just had these visions in my head Andrew
Speaker 1: of like the Dolphins being down by seventeen or perhaps
Speaker 1: thirteen late in games, and willis just dropping back to
Speaker 1: pass and just dumping these little eight nine yard little
Speaker 1: seam routes to Dulcuch where he just falls down and
Speaker 1: then they just keep going down the field. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Adam makes a good point that is a problem for
Speaker 1: him staying on the field, But you're having fourteenth, fifteenth round.
Speaker 1: If he gets hurt, it's not like you're married to
Speaker 1: the guy with your draft capital that you invested in.
Speaker 1: You can cut him and move on to somebody else.
Speaker 1: But certainly Dulsage is intriguing right now. Hopefully you've been
Speaker 1: intrigued for the remainder of the show. We're gonna step
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Speaker 1: And we lead things off this segment tonight, Andrew with
Speaker 1: your guy AJ Brown there. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: it was the worst kept secret in the NFL because
Speaker 1: I wasn't totally sure it was gonna happen, especially the
Speaker 1: longer at dragged on. But we do know he's in
Speaker 1: New England this year. I have been of the opinion
Speaker 1: that I could foresee New England regressing a little bit
Speaker 1: this year, what with you know, super Bowl curse aside,
Speaker 1: they had a somewhat easy schedule this year. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have a tougher schedule this year. And then they get
Speaker 1: AJ Brown, and I'm kind of like, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe I got to back off this this regression thing.
Speaker 1: You have trevi On Henderson in year two, you have
Speaker 1: a pretty good offensive line, you have the alpha on
Speaker 1: the perimeter now, and AJ Brown clearly a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: in Drake May. You could make the case that he
Speaker 1: might be a top five NFL quarterback. If you're starting
Speaker 1: your franchise right now, He's probably gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the top five players chosen there. I like the defense.
Speaker 1: The head coach too, seems to know at least football
Speaker 1: off the field. Whatever. But but you can wax poetic
Speaker 1: here on AJ Brown and tell all the listeners and
Speaker 1: all the viewers who aren't sure about drafting AJ Brown
Speaker 1: right now as the wide receiver eight at the two
Speaker 1: to eleven. Oh, he sneaked up into the first time
Speaker 1: I've seen him in the second round. He is going
Speaker 1: on average in the second round right now, Andrew, maybe
Speaker 1: it's because of you you've been pumping this guy up.
Speaker 2: Tell us why, Yeah, RI ip the AJ Brown round
Speaker 2: four days, Yes, because that's.
Speaker 3: That's where we're getting. It was easy to stack both my.
Speaker 2: Both my FFPC teams that I've drafted got the Drake
Speaker 2: May AJ Brown stack, and I'm ready to rock with that.
Speaker 2: So not surprised that his price has gone up, because
Speaker 2: I think that the ceiling case for AJ Brown is
Speaker 2: he's a top five.
Speaker 3: Fantasy wide receiver this season.
Speaker 2: When I was going through my rankings eye and originally
Speaker 2: moved up to wide receiver eight, and then I was
Speaker 2: talking to Derek Brown again, colleague at Fantasy Bro's great friend,
Speaker 2: great Fantasy mind, and he's telling me, He's like, dude,
Speaker 2: I got him a wide receiver six Like what it's like,
Speaker 2: I got a wide receiver sixth. And I can't be
Speaker 2: the lowman on AJ Brown against a non Patriots I
Speaker 2: am also on Patriots, and you can if you can't
Speaker 2: tell from the battles of the Patriots stuff, I can't
Speaker 2: be the lowman on Patriots players, especially a guy like
Speaker 2: AJ Brown, who I loved when he wasn't even a Patriot,
Speaker 2: especially when Derek was so sound with the analysis of well, okay,
Speaker 2: so do you want Justin Jefferson with Kyler Murray's quarterback
Speaker 2: over AJ Brown with Drake May who you just talked about,
Speaker 2: like third year guy second in the MVP voting last year.
Speaker 3: Who's more going to throw forty touchdowns this year?
Speaker 2: Drake May or Kyler Murray certainly isn't Kyler Murray. So
Speaker 2: I think that when you're looking at the Patriots offense
Speaker 2: last year, a lot of it was scoring from outside
Speaker 2: the red zone. They're actually pretty poor in the red zone.
Speaker 3: So what do they do?
Speaker 2: They get AJ Brown, They get Romeo Dobs, you guys
Speaker 2: that are very big red zone presidences. The crowd opens
Speaker 2: up this offense because he can beat man coverage top
Speaker 2: five graded against man covers last year per PFF. And
Speaker 2: when the Eagles decided to actually feature him as the
Speaker 2: focal point, I think it was like weeks eleven through
Speaker 2: sixteen last year, guy would a top three Fantasy wide receiver.
Speaker 2: So I think if the planets aligned for AJ Brown
Speaker 2: and he gets used in this offense like DeVante Adams
Speaker 2: with the Las Vegas Raiders, with Josh McDaniels or even
Speaker 2: throwing it back to I love calling this guy back
Speaker 2: Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ver Broncos. Dude, there were gays. Brandon Marshall had
Speaker 3: like twenty targets.
Speaker 2: In a single game. Now does this make the Patriots
Speaker 2: win more games?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: We saw AJ Brown like Jalen Hurts, when he would
Speaker 2: hyper target. AJ Brown didn't always create the best results
Speaker 2: for a win loss perspective. But in terms of putting
Speaker 2: up points, if the Patriots defense isn't as good as
Speaker 2: it was last year facing much tougher offenses, are they
Speaker 2: playing from behind a little bit more?
Speaker 3: I just think that the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Outcome for AJ Brown is so high as the clear
Speaker 2: cut alpha in this offense. I don't think anything from
Speaker 2: last year about his efficiency falling off, which I mean
Speaker 2: relative to the rest of the NFL wide receivers.
Speaker 3: He's still really dang good.
Speaker 2: So I think it was really more about circumstantial about
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and him not really being on the same
Speaker 2: page about the Eagles offense looking just straight up dysfunctional
Speaker 2: at points last year. There were points last year where
Speaker 2: they couldn't complete a pass in the second half of
Speaker 2: some games.
Speaker 3: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the case with Drake
Speaker 2: May I think it's a clear upgrade, especially with how
Speaker 2: pretty his deep ball is. It's a JB wide receiver
Speaker 2: one season and actually after cocking to Derek Brown, I
Speaker 2: moved to wide receiver five. I'm like, I want this
Speaker 2: I want this guy on all my teams. Give me
Speaker 2: him in the second round. And if you tie my
Speaker 2: hat you had to tie my hands behind my back
Speaker 2: that you gottake him around one and be like sick,
Speaker 2: I'll do it, like whatever.
Speaker 3: I just think the ceiling is so high for him.
Speaker 1: The Uh yeah, I was gonna add that was my
Speaker 1: next question. If if Debro had him at six, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, I was like, no, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, so Brown, clearly they must have for you.
Speaker 1: We move on down the wide receiver list. A player,
Speaker 1: quite frankly that is going ahead of AJ Brown right
Speaker 1: now is Drake London UH wide receiver seven at the
Speaker 1: two to oh six. In fact, he might be yeah,
Speaker 1: he's actually London's wide receiver seven, Brown's wide receiver eight.
Speaker 1: So Brown, if he was to surpass the next person
Speaker 1: to be London, London does not have as good of
Speaker 1: a quarterback as Brown has this year. In fact, we
Speaker 1: don't know who his quarterback is going to be. In fact,
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's gonna have the same quarterback
Speaker 1: every week of the season. It's it's a very unsettled
Speaker 1: situation there with with Penix and Tongue by Loa and
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the people I've talked to
Speaker 1: Andrew over the last couple of months, if you have London,
Speaker 1: I think most, not all, most people have said they
Speaker 1: want to see Penix in that quarterback. If they have London,
Speaker 1: they are a little bit nervous about Tongue by Loa
Speaker 1: throwing the ball in that Falcons offense as to what
Speaker 1: London is going to do to try to pay off
Speaker 1: that two oh six ADP. Is Drake London a must
Speaker 1: have for you in drafts this year?
Speaker 2: I think that being so high on A J Brown,
Speaker 2: Drake London doesn't kind of qualify as one of my
Speaker 2: must have. He's a player that I really like and
Speaker 2: the ceiling with him is a player that can enter
Speaker 2: that elite tier. He was basically doing that last season
Speaker 2: before his injury. He was the wide receiver three in
Speaker 2: points per game. So we've seen enough from Drake Lendon
Speaker 2: from a talent standpoint that, hey, this guy is the
Speaker 2: top ten real life wide receiver. That's why he's going
Speaker 2: inside the top seven of fantasy wide receivers. But if
Speaker 2: Tua his his quarterback, I just don't have a ton
Speaker 2: of faith that Tua is the best fit. The last
Speaker 2: two seasons with Michael Pennix as his quarterback, Drake London
Speaker 2: full PPR has averaged almost twenty points per game, which
Speaker 2: is like the threshold we're looking for with a difference
Speaker 2: making elite wide receiver that you want to draft in
Speaker 2: the first two rounds of your fantasy drafts. So if
Speaker 2: Tua is the start to open the year first month
Speaker 2: of the year, it's gonna be more b Jhon Robinson.
Speaker 2: Well these underneath bubble screens. So that's where I get
Speaker 2: concerned about London. It's just the quarterbacks. And this is
Speaker 2: also an opportunity to where maybe Drake London is a
Speaker 2: trade for target. When you get Michael Pennox back on
Speaker 2: center in the later portion of the year, Drake London smashes.
Speaker 2: So I think I would try again. If I'm drafting
Speaker 2: a bunch of best ball teams, I don't want zero
Speaker 2: Drake London. I want to be clear with that, because
Speaker 2: I do think that he has a ton of upside,
Speaker 2: especially Michael Penix takes over as quarterback. But to your
Speaker 2: initial point, who do you want throwing the ball to you?
Speaker 2: Drake May to or Michael Pennix? You want Drake May
Speaker 2: throwing ball And if it's close enough for me, it's
Speaker 2: like that just gets me a little bit to lean
Speaker 2: towards a J.
Speaker 3: Brown.
Speaker 2: Would also not be opposed to an AJ Brown Drake
Speaker 2: London start where I can draft both guys at you know,
Speaker 2: the one two turn if I'm not going to go
Speaker 2: running back in the first round or second round, So
Speaker 2: that's another option as well. But like Drake London, just
Speaker 2: not as much as AJ Brown.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about Jaalen Waddle because it seems
Speaker 1: like he's building some steam lately. When the trade was
Speaker 1: made with with Miami, it seemed like most, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say most, a good number of FFPC players
Speaker 1: we're kind of drafting something would kind of go ahead
Speaker 1: some drafts. Wattle would go ahead some drafts. But now
Speaker 1: it seems like Wattle is really the guy that is
Speaker 1: going ahead of Courtland Sutton and quite frankly, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I'm gonna look it up right now. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily all that close anymore. The ADP
Speaker 1: we have on Waddle is wide receiver twenty four, Courtland
Speaker 1: Sutton is wide receiver thirty eight, five oh six, and
Speaker 1: the eight to oh four, So it's basically three rounds
Speaker 1: of separation here. So Wattle, his ADP has moved up,
Speaker 1: but he's still a mid fifth round pick. Is he
Speaker 1: must have considering what this Broncos offense is going to
Speaker 1: be this year with Wattle into a player that they
Speaker 1: didn't have last year. Quite frankly, they were this close
Speaker 1: to going to the super Bowl at home in the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. Didn't happen because they didn't have bo Nicks.
Speaker 1: Certainly there's some weather there as well. Not that I'm
Speaker 1: you know, not praising what your Patriots did because they
Speaker 1: went out and won that game. But I think Waddle
Speaker 1: adds a new element to this offense.
Speaker 3: It was a great move by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: As a Super Bowl contender, you trade for the missing
Speaker 2: piece right that gets you over the top, and I
Speaker 2: think that Waddle, if he is healthy, he can be
Speaker 2: that piece and element to this offense. That it was missing,
Speaker 2: So I think Jaalen Waddles must have this year. If
Speaker 2: you guys have followed me at Fantasy Spros, even if
Speaker 2: my days at PFF, I think I've drafted Jaalen Waddle
Speaker 2: every single year through all the ups and the downs,
Speaker 2: So it's asn't always been a fun ride, especially because
Speaker 2: he seems like he has a time share in the
Speaker 2: Blue Medical ten, which I don't like for Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 2: even though he doesn't always get hurt, he just seems
Speaker 2: like he's banged up through games constantly. But last year
Speaker 2: I think that he was really held back by the
Speaker 2: circumstances and we just didn't get the chance to see
Speaker 2: him operate without Tyreek Hill, right because the minute that
Speaker 2: terryk Kill went down, the offense just turned into this
Speaker 2: run funnel and they just didn't want to throw the
Speaker 2: ball at all downfield. And then he got banged up
Speaker 2: towards the end of the year. But he's flashed so
Speaker 2: much talent throughout his NFL career. He's won in different ways,
Speaker 2: whether it was his rookie year when he saw a
Speaker 2: ton of volume, whether it's been in years past when
Speaker 2: even alongside Tyreek Hill. He's had monster yards performances, very
Speaker 2: efficient yards per route run last year. His yards problem
Speaker 2: is still very very good. So I don't think he's
Speaker 2: falling off in his game. And now he's going offense,
Speaker 2: it's actually gonna throw the ball like that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: And it's not with Tyreek Hill opposite him, it's with
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton, who I think sutton his own right as
Speaker 2: a player that's been really effective. Obviously great season last year,
Speaker 2: but at times he was losing out on targets and
Speaker 2: red zone opportunities to Troy Franklin of all players last year.
Speaker 2: So if Jalen Wattle is able to take up some
Speaker 2: of those goal line opportunities, whether it's two point conversions,
Speaker 2: whether it's red zone attempts, like that's the missing piece
Speaker 2: with Wattles they haven't really been a touchdown guy. Well,
Speaker 2: if he goes to an offense that likes to throw
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit more than they did in
Speaker 2: Miami he used more in the red zone, we already
Speaker 2: nobody can do fromn efficiency standpoint, especially with defenses not
Speaker 2: really honed in on him. As Okay, we have to
Speaker 2: stop Jayla Wall because the Denver Broncos have a lot
Speaker 2: of depth between all the receivers they use, the running backs,
Speaker 2: the tight ends. I really like Wattle this year, especially
Speaker 2: where he's going in the round five. So another year
Speaker 2: of Wattle, We'll see, uh see how it shakes out.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be here for the ride.
Speaker 1: If let me throw this at you. Let's imagine the
Speaker 1: offense that Mike McDaniel had in Miami with tongue bai loa,
Speaker 1: a healthy Tyreek Hill and a healthy Jalen Waddle. The
Speaker 1: situation that he's in Denver right now, how close does
Speaker 1: it come to what that one was in Miami. As
Speaker 1: far as Waddle's fantasy prospects.
Speaker 2: I think that the ceiling outcome is higher because Wattle
Speaker 2: has a chance to be the number one in Denver.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was ever going to necessarily be
Speaker 2: the case, especially with Tyreek Hill still very much in
Speaker 2: his peak during a lot of those seasons in Miami
Speaker 2: just so good still had all the speed, all the juice.
Speaker 2: I think that Sutton last year did show a little
Speaker 2: bit of a falloff in terms of well, he was
Speaker 2: the alpha, but he was kind of more of a
Speaker 2: fake alpha in terms of the other receivers were getting
Speaker 2: more involved. Think back to that playoff game, who was
Speaker 2: getting Pepper with targets Pat Bryant, Right, So, Sean Paynoy's
Speaker 2: pulls the shenanigans where we always have to focus on
Speaker 2: one guy, and I think that's still in the range
Speaker 2: of outcomes of the bad side of things, where Wattle's
Speaker 2: not a gonna see double digit targets every single week.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily the case, but I think
Speaker 2: it's he can win with efficiency and he can win
Speaker 2: with touchdowns. Like That's kind of what I'm betting on
Speaker 2: with Jalen Wattle, not that he he doesn't profile to
Speaker 2: me and he's never really profiled as oh, he's gonna
Speaker 2: be a volume hog. I think that he's just gonna
Speaker 2: do a lot of damage with the targets and opportunities
Speaker 2: he does get, even it's only by a slight margin,
Speaker 2: because we know the Broncos like to, you know, spread
Speaker 2: the love between all their players, and the fact that
Speaker 2: Champagne's not calling plays either it's gonna be Davis Webb
Speaker 2: doing it this year does help me or it reminds
Speaker 2: me to like stay a little bit more open to
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos players, because usually Cheon Payne just does everything
Speaker 2: to like piss us off and fantasy like oh I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tag this guy my joker and then to screw
Speaker 2: everybody over and not actually use it at all. So
Speaker 2: maybe with Davis webcoms shots we get maybe more of
Speaker 2: a little bit more concentrated offense, but that remains to
Speaker 2: be seen.
Speaker 1: I I know this team did not make the playoffs
Speaker 1: slash year, but they have been a stalwart in the
Speaker 1: AFC for many many years with Lamar Jackson and Jackson,
Speaker 1: by the way, probably a big catalyst of why they
Speaker 1: did not make the playoffs last year, not necessarily because
Speaker 1: of the performance, but because of injury, hobbling around, not
Speaker 1: being the Lamar Jackson that we have seen in years
Speaker 1: before this year, they they seem to be loaded for
Speaker 1: bear in that division. It seems to me that Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson should have a big bounce back year. And they
Speaker 1: got a lot younger too. You think about Hiddener and
Speaker 1: it was a Quavis was the other tight end that
Speaker 1: they had drafted. And then the receivers Jacobe Lane, Elijah
Speaker 1: Surat all of a sudden, the Ravens skill position players
Speaker 1: are a lot younger. There are many players out there,
Speaker 1: many fantasy players myself included Andrew, that have been fading
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to our own detriment, and I feel like
Speaker 1: Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad, you know the meme, like
Speaker 1: he can't keep getting away with this, and yet Dereck
Speaker 1: Henry gets away with it every single year. At some point,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be there for him. And I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think he's the type of player where he
Speaker 1: just falls right off the cliff. I think we might
Speaker 1: see a season where it there might be a gradual
Speaker 1: season and then a cliff season. We haven't seen the
Speaker 1: gradual season yet, it could be this year. And if
Speaker 1: it is, and the Ravens are still getting back to
Speaker 1: respectability in the playoffs, wouldn't you think that a huge
Speaker 1: reason why they get back to that level of success
Speaker 1: is one Za Flowers, a player who's never lived on touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I don't know if his body is built
Speaker 1: for a lot of touchdowns. But he does get a
Speaker 1: lot of catches, he does get a lot of targets,
Speaker 1: he does get a lot of yardage. Is he a
Speaker 1: must have for you this year as wide receiver? Seventeen
Speaker 1: at the four to h four in Big Gula drafts.
Speaker 3: Yes, he is a must have.
Speaker 2: I would say Jay Flowers is probably my flag plant
Speaker 2: player if we're not talking about aj Brown twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six fantasy football season. I think that he has just
Speaker 2: shown throughout three years of his NFL career a lot
Speaker 2: of checking the boxes. Last year yards Parah run who
Speaker 2: was better than Zay Flowers, Hukinnakua and Jacksmith and Jigbob
Speaker 2: those were the two guys and where are they being
Speaker 2: drafted in fantasy drafts inside the top three wide receivers.
Speaker 2: He has the talent, I think to be in that
Speaker 2: conversation with those particular players. I'm not denying that. We
Speaker 2: know he has a quarterback that can throw a ton
Speaker 2: of touchdowns. Lamar Jackson has done it before. He's one
Speaker 2: of the highest passing touchdown rates in NFL history. So
Speaker 2: it's not more well his touchdowns Ward Grass, No, like
Speaker 2: he's more than capable of doing it. I think that
Speaker 2: Jay Flowers is eons above every other receiver on this roster.
Speaker 2: I know he liked some of the rookies they drafted,
Speaker 2: but at this point, I think Mark Andrews is kind
Speaker 2: of cooked. I think that the Ravens made a big
Speaker 2: mistake by not bringing back Isaiah likely in extending Mark
Speaker 2: Andrews instead, And I think they're just bringing a new
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in Declan Doyle at least opens up the
Speaker 2: possibilities that they use. They do use A Flowers a
Speaker 2: little bit more in the red zone. He to me,
Speaker 2: is someone that can create a lot of explosive plays.
Speaker 2: And one thing I want to note too about Jasn
Speaker 2: and how special his season was last year, he how
Speaker 2: did he achieve it was with an elite target chair
Speaker 2: and elite efficiency. Those are two things A Flowers can
Speaker 2: definitely have. But JSN last year also didn't have this
Speaker 2: Like he had a good red zone role, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't always the main red zone guy. He was actually
Speaker 2: the first receiver. Talking about receivers, because what I usually
Speaker 2: gravitate towards when I'm looking at who could be the
Speaker 2: wide receiver one overall is the wide receiver one overall.
Speaker 2: Six of the last seven Fantasy seasons has been the
Speaker 2: leader in red zone targets. Last year was an outlier,
Speaker 2: like JSN and Pukuinakua were not the main red zone
Speaker 2: guys in the NFL last year was obviously Demonte Adams,
Speaker 2: who had basically every single red zone target for every
Speaker 2: for the Rams all year long, and then Jasn was
Speaker 2: more middle of the pack, but he was still able
Speaker 2: to be a top one, top two wide receiver overall
Speaker 2: because of elite efficiency and explosive plays. What does A
Speaker 2: Flowers do? Generate a lot of explosive plays? And I
Speaker 2: was one of the first thing Decklan Doyle mentioned about
Speaker 2: when he became the offense accordion for the Ravens was
Speaker 2: we want to generate explosives. So I think with A Flowers,
Speaker 2: even if he's not seeing a ton of red zone work,
Speaker 2: I think that maybe it's just hey, well he's gonna
Speaker 2: score a lot of touchdowns from outside the red zone.
Speaker 2: I have one of those special outlier seasons where he
Speaker 2: rips off a thirty yard touchdown, he rips off a
Speaker 2: fifty yard touchdown because I know that it's in his
Speaker 2: range of outcomes because of the player that he is
Speaker 2: coming out.
Speaker 3: He was a guy that I comped to Antonio Brown.
Speaker 2: I thought that he looked a lot like Antonio Brown,
Speaker 2: a little bit undersized, but just I thought that what
Speaker 2: he could do it with the ball in his hands
Speaker 2: was spectacular, great route runner, and if you look at
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown season logs year four, dude went absolutely nuclear.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's in the in the range
Speaker 2: of outcomes for a Flowers.
Speaker 1: That gets it because I have Za Flowers on a
Speaker 1: decent number of my Dynasty teams. And if that happens
Speaker 1: this year where he does just bust out a double random,
Speaker 1: double digit touchdown season, my god, not only could that
Speaker 1: lead you to championships this year, but he might be
Speaker 1: interesting player that you could get a boatload for him
Speaker 1: after the season as well. We move on to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: We go back to San Francisco's after we were talking with
Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk earlier and George Kittle earlier. Mike Evans, I
Speaker 1: mean Andrew wide receiver twenty five at the five oh seven,
Speaker 1: I'm scratching my head and I'm trying to think the
Speaker 1: last time I've seen an ADP this low on Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever been an ADP this
Speaker 1: low on Evans, even when he was a rookie, where
Speaker 1: he's slipping behind Jalen Waddle, DJ Moore, Luther Burden, Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin and he goes to San Francisco. Now a player
Speaker 1: that I think fits their offense well and an archetype
Speaker 1: that they really haven't had in that offense in several years,
Speaker 1: maybe ever with Kyle Shanahan. There is Mike Evans a
Speaker 1: must have for you when you consider you can get
Speaker 1: him in the mid fifth round right now, my friend.
Speaker 2: I think so for me, because I think he's just
Speaker 2: gonna catch so many touchdowns in this offense. I think
Speaker 2: that's what he was built for this offense and what
Speaker 2: he's going to do. I don't think that he will
Speaker 2: we necessarily get back to a thousand yards. I think
Speaker 2: that's maybe where people are pressing pause on drafting him
Speaker 2: too aggressively, because I do think that this is a
Speaker 2: player that could start the season out really really hot,
Speaker 2: on a hot streak. I think that he could have
Speaker 2: a very DeVante adams S type of season where maybe
Speaker 2: he's not even the leading receiver on his own team,
Speaker 2: but the touchdown equity he has I think is really
Speaker 2: real and a player that I think if you draft him,
Speaker 2: especially in redraft leagues, after the first month, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be really happy. Had Mike Evans on your roster and
Speaker 2: then maybe you consider flipping him and moving away from because.
Speaker 3: You know eventually hamstring injury is gonna come.
Speaker 2: It's gonna show up at some point because it's it's
Speaker 2: annual every single year, it's gonna get after him. So
Speaker 2: I do understand why there's some pause on Mike Evans.
Speaker 2: But when I look at just like the opening schedule
Speaker 2: for the for the forty nine ers, I think he
Speaker 2: can have a really big impact, especially if George Kittle
Speaker 2: is not back, which we talked about earlier at the
Speaker 2: start of the show, where I think he's more likely
Speaker 2: miss time to start the year. I think that's where
Speaker 2: Mike Evans can really eat and face.
Speaker 1: Do you do you recall a rookie season like a
Speaker 1: mecca at Buka Andrew when you think about how white
Speaker 1: hot he got out of the gate and then seemingly
Speaker 1: and I know he got injuries played a role into
Speaker 1: it as well, but he really trickled down to where
Speaker 1: he was giving you nothing during the championship weeks, the
Speaker 1: championship sprand of the Big Gorilla in the main event
Speaker 1: last year, and now you know what do we do
Speaker 1: with him? In drafts? Well, FFPC players are taking him
Speaker 1: one slot above Za Flowers. Right now, he's wide receiver
Speaker 1: sixteen at the four h three. Certainly he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to contend with Mike Evans this year, although we've heard
Speaker 1: some really positive reports about Chris Godwin lately. Jalen McMillan's there,
Speaker 1: and they drafted Ted Hurst, not necessarily thinking that either
Speaker 1: of those guys are going to usurp at Buka's role.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's worth talking about how much
Speaker 1: they eat in to volume and targets for Agbuca this year.
Speaker 1: Is he a must have at the four h three
Speaker 1: at wide receiver sixteen.
Speaker 2: He's definitely a player that I want to draft more
Speaker 2: of because to your point about how the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season was so great for him and then he
Speaker 2: fell off in the second half of the season, when
Speaker 2: I think it's easy to justify why he fell off.
Speaker 2: He got hurt, His quarterback was clearly hurt. The Buccaneers
Speaker 2: offense was a freaking mess basically from like Week ten onward.
Speaker 2: So I think that we want to acknowledge the high
Speaker 2: highs from EGNCA at Buka. He had a rookie breakout,
Speaker 2: even though I mean because it was so good. In
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, he was a runaway favorite
Speaker 2: for Rookie of the Year. It was locked and loaded,
Speaker 2: he's gonna win this award, and then he didn't because
Speaker 2: things just fell off so dramatically, And I think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: We talked about this some one of the Fantasy Pro.
Speaker 2: Shows where at Buka it seems like the rhetoric around
Speaker 2: him is boom or bust, like he was so boomed
Speaker 2: to start the year and then he was just a
Speaker 2: total bust to end the year. When coming out of
Speaker 2: Ohio State, what was at BUKA known for it was, Oh,
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna have a super high floor, like he's
Speaker 2: just gonna catch a hundred balls. Maybe not be the
Speaker 2: flashiest guy, but he's gonna be super consistent, which was
Speaker 2: not like what actually happened is Rookie Year. If anything,
Speaker 2: I'm more encouraged that he did flash the ceiling, like
Speaker 2: that's what I was more concerned about, because i know
Speaker 2: the floor is eventually going to be there, so I'm
Speaker 2: not concerned about the fall off in the second half
Speaker 2: of the season. I'm just happy that he flashed the
Speaker 2: ceiling because i know there's going to be a floor
Speaker 2: with him. So I think like Buka is a player
Speaker 2: that Drafters should be going after, and he's someone that
Speaker 2: I have to probably move up in my rankings to
Speaker 2: kind of catch up with ADP because I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: I think that's a really strong case for a Buka
Speaker 2: to take a major second year leap, and I know
Speaker 2: that he is also being drafted close to Luther Burden.
Speaker 2: I'm taking a buco over Burden for sure.
Speaker 1: The next player I want to talk about, and I apologize.
Speaker 1: I want to do some segues between him, but we're
Speaker 1: running short on time, and you've been so great, Andrew.
Speaker 1: I want to keep picking your brain on these players,
Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, and we'll get into Herbert in a second.
Speaker 1: But if we were too sort of because it seems
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of pass catchers in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: that we're very excited about, or we're very excited about
Speaker 1: the Los Angeeli's passing offense this year, but who to
Speaker 1: be excited about among the pass catchers With McConkie and
Speaker 1: Johnston and Trey Harris and Djoku and Bronde, Gadsden and
Speaker 1: Omari and Hampton, there's all these guys out there. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on McConkie being a must have right now. He's
Speaker 1: sort of in that Zay Flowers at Buca area, although
Speaker 1: he's going a little bit after him wide receiver nineteen
Speaker 1: at the four h seven Baffo Huge rookie year took
Speaker 1: a little bit of a step back last year. I
Speaker 1: would imagine that the true McConkie lies somewhere in between
Speaker 1: those years.
Speaker 2: Right well, I hope it is much closer to his
Speaker 2: rookie year than what was last year, because last year
Speaker 2: was a disaster and I think that I wasn't alone
Speaker 2: in rushing off Keenan Allen as oh well, this guy's
Speaker 2: not going to be involved that much, Like he's not
Speaker 2: going to take away lads targets, and he led the
Speaker 2: team at targets last year, so that is a big deal.
Speaker 2: Right now he's on the roster. I know the GM
Speaker 2: has kind of flirted with, oh yeah, like we can
Speaker 2: bring keen Allen back. I really like him, and that's
Speaker 2: kind of disaster outcome where we have to run this
Speaker 2: offense back again with Keenan Allen potentially vacuum up a
Speaker 2: ton of targets, especially on third downs where that's where
Speaker 2: you're hoping the lad can really carve out a good,
Speaker 2: good chemistry with Justin Herbert in year three.
Speaker 3: Just really excited about this offense overall.
Speaker 2: I just think that lab McConkie fits what Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: really does well. He puts his wide receivers in positions
Speaker 2: to succeed. We did it with Tyreek Hill, we did
Speaker 2: with Jamn Wattle. I always remember when I would look
Speaker 2: at those guys in their route participation, it was never, Oh,
Speaker 2: these guys are running a hundred percent of the routes. No,
Speaker 2: it's these guys are running seventy sixty five percent of
Speaker 2: the routes. But every time they run a route there's
Speaker 2: a reason behind it, and it's to give them the
Speaker 2: football and for them to be super super efficient. So
Speaker 2: I think Laddy gets back to his rookie year, closer
Speaker 2: to his rookie year when he was I think top
Speaker 2: ten in yards per route run, very very impressive. I
Speaker 2: like Lad a lot this year, like Justin Herbert a
Speaker 2: lot this year. So it's a stack that I'm definitely
Speaker 2: trying to draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just traded Dave Koogie actually from football guys.
Speaker 1: I'm in a dynasty league with him. I just traded
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty seven first in Ty Simpson for Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: which as super flex leagues, which I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: to see what happens. Dave is kind of like he's
Speaker 1: going for the one oh one next year, who's acquiring
Speaker 1: all this first round draft capital, which he's doing a
Speaker 1: good job of two by the way, but Herbert, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to have Lamar Jackson in that league as well,
Speaker 1: so to roll those two guys out every week is
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. We moved the tight
Speaker 1: end here, a player I had just drafted in another
Speaker 1: one of my leagues, probably because I knew that I
Speaker 1: knew some of the guys that were drafting on the
Speaker 1: end of that and I knew Likely wasn't making it
Speaker 1: back to me, and so I decided to take him.
Speaker 1: He was like tight end nine, tight end ten or whatever.
Speaker 1: Dude with this neighbor stuff and Darius Slayton recovering from
Speaker 1: surgery and them signing three off the street free agents
Speaker 1: in the same day, I feel really good about Likely.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what giants beed reporter it was, but
Speaker 1: they said that it looked like in Ota is the
Speaker 1: top two pass catchers in New York were the two
Speaker 1: tight ends in Likely and Theo Johnson. Now that's obviously
Speaker 1: without Neighbors on the field, but Likely was the guy
Speaker 1: he listed first. This is a guy you know with
Speaker 1: tight ends. You mentioned it in the first hour. You're
Speaker 1: looking for ways where these guys can get a lot
Speaker 1: of volume, and certainly Likely is a player that might
Speaker 1: be the number two pass catcher on this team even
Speaker 1: when Neighbors is healthy.
Speaker 3: Such a good pick right now.
Speaker 2: The path relevance is so clear, even if he's the
Speaker 2: number two guy when my Leagueighbors comes back. Like you said,
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh, is the biggest Isaiah Likely stand that there
Speaker 2: might be. And that matters a lot because tight end,
Speaker 2: we know it comes down to usage. It's not necessarily
Speaker 2: about talent because of how the score Fantasy points.
Speaker 3: You need to be on the field and you need
Speaker 3: to be running routes.
Speaker 2: I think that the way that they signed him to
Speaker 2: this big contract that it's the same head coach that
Speaker 2: last year before or entering his contract year, John Harbot
Speaker 2: talked about Isaiah Likely as Yeah, this guy has.
Speaker 3: An all pro type ceiling.
Speaker 2: Tight Ends often break out on their second teams and
Speaker 2: We've already seen the ceiling from Likely in games where
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews has missed. Last year, he was the one
Speaker 2: that was injured, and Mark Andrews is the one that
Speaker 2: stayed healthy, so Likely never really got going. And to
Speaker 2: insult to injury, how many touchdowns did the debt didn't
Speaker 2: count for Isaiah Likely last year? Where he's like at
Speaker 2: the one yard line and he fumbles the ball or
Speaker 2: he drops the ball or his foots out about like
Speaker 2: just that could consistently happen just to frustrate the heck
Speaker 2: out of Isaiah Likely managers. But I think that wheels
Speaker 2: are up all the way for Likely this particular season
Speaker 2: with Harbaugh as the head coach of the Giants, with
Speaker 2: neighbors banged up, he could be the number one got
Speaker 2: to start the year and then have a role as
Speaker 2: the number two as the season progresses. We're excited about
Speaker 2: Jackson dart and during his second season. Don't love Matt
Speaker 2: n Aggie to be honest, don't think that he's the
Speaker 2: greatest offensive mind. I don't love the offensive coaches they
Speaker 2: haven't placed there. But I think Isaiah Likely at least
Speaker 2: is gonna get enough routes, get enough targets to be
Speaker 2: a fantasy tight end one this season.
Speaker 1: Isaiah like tight end ten in the Big Gorilla over
Speaker 1: the last five days, right in front of Travis Kelcey,
Speaker 1: right behind George Kittle. So he's still going as a
Speaker 1: top ten tight end. But yeah, I'm I'm with you, man.
Speaker 1: I feel like I should have been drafting him more
Speaker 1: early on, but now his ADP is climbing and it's
Speaker 1: difficult to get him at the price you got him
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. Chicka Conquo, we talked about
Speaker 1: the Washington pass catchers. This is another player that again
Speaker 1: could be the number two pass catcher there. I know
Speaker 1: there are people out there, the haters if you will,
Speaker 1: that will say if Okonko is any good, he would
Speaker 1: have shown us in Tennessee. He didn't, and now he's
Speaker 1: in Washington. He gets to catch passes from Jane Daniels Man.
Speaker 1: If they don't sign Ayuk or Stefan Diggs or Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen and they go to battle with Antonio Williams as
Speaker 1: their number two wide receiver. Chicka Conko might turn out
Speaker 1: to be a nice pick. I don't know about must
Speaker 1: have Andrew, but might turn out to be a nice
Speaker 1: pick this year if the commander's roster stays the way
Speaker 1: it is at this point. All the way up to Week.
Speaker 2: One, people are coming out Chickakonko for not being good
Speaker 2: on the Titans. With Will Levis as the quarterback who
Speaker 2: has been good on the Titans the last four years.
Speaker 1: It's a short list. It's a very short list.
Speaker 2: Chicka coon Kuo had an exceptional rookie season. He led
Speaker 2: the entire NFL a tight end in yards out to
Speaker 2: the catch perception, and then he got, what's the right
Speaker 2: way to describe this, he got screwed because the minute
Speaker 2: after he had a breakout rookie year, he was like
Speaker 2: the late round tight end Jore entering his second season.
Speaker 3: And what did the Titans do? They signed DeAndre Hopkins right.
Speaker 3: It ruined everything.
Speaker 2: So I think that A Konkuo did as much as
Speaker 2: he possibly could last three seasons fifty plus catches, has
Speaker 2: missed zero games in his NFL career, played all seventeen
Speaker 2: games all four years in Tennessee. So I think that
Speaker 2: he's not getting enough credit for what he was able
Speaker 2: to do in Tennessee despite the fact that it was
Speaker 2: always a bad quarterback situation, every single who was bad
Speaker 2: quarterback situation, So what is he supposed to do? I
Speaker 2: think that getting Jane Daniels is an immediate upgrade. Who
Speaker 2: was getting Pepper with targets last year in this offense.
Speaker 2: Zach Ertz forty five year old zach Ertz who's never
Speaker 2: broken a tackle in his entire life. Now that titan
Speaker 2: gets replaced with Chicka cong Quo, who is at breaking
Speaker 2: tackle machine. Thirty yards after the catch per reception last year,
Speaker 2: first in that category as a rookie.
Speaker 3: He's got juice.
Speaker 2: Yards after the catch is something that I love to
Speaker 2: cite when it comes to tight ends. Eric, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I talked about Tucker Craft on this show
Speaker 2: when I came on last year. I really hope that
Speaker 2: I did. But that's why I like Tucker Craft so
Speaker 2: much the last couple of years is because this dude's
Speaker 2: a monster with the ball in his hands. And I
Speaker 2: think that Chicka con Quo has shown that same type
Speaker 2: of ability as a Yak monster given the lack of
Speaker 2: established weapons behind Terry McLaurin, who I don't think is
Speaker 2: like a true alpha alpha. He's a good number one,
Speaker 2: but not like a Justin Jefferson Malik neighbor type of
Speaker 2: thirty percent target share guy. I think Chicka con Quo
Speaker 2: is another great late round type pick, and I like
Speaker 2: pairing him with another guy like you're gonna go with
Speaker 2: Isaiah like me late then draft Chicka Congo too. Draft
Speaker 2: Greg Dolsch and Chicka Konko. I like mixing and matching
Speaker 2: some of these late round guys because I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of good options. Obviously, if they signed Stefon Diggs,
Speaker 2: it just it sucks because it feels like the Deohondre
Speaker 2: Hopkins thing all over again.
Speaker 3: But the fact that they signed.
Speaker 2: To a pretty strong free agent contract three years, twenty
Speaker 2: seven million, I like Chicken Concho's odds to stay relevant
Speaker 2: here in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, that contracts suggested that they believe that Sinat
Speaker 1: Sinnet was not going to be the guy and and
Speaker 1: Ertz was probably not in their in their plans in
Speaker 1: the future, and and it just made perfect sense to
Speaker 1: go out and get a guy that that can, you know,
Speaker 1: be a competitive tight end with Jaden Daniels for the
Speaker 1: next three years or four years or whatever. We'll go
Speaker 1: rapid fire on these quarterbacks here tell me if any
Speaker 1: of these guys are must haves for you, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you their ADP in the f FPC big
Speaker 1: Gorilla here Andrew when I when I recite their names,
Speaker 1: are any of these guys must haves for you? Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams quarterback six nine o three, Brock Purty quarterback twelve
Speaker 1: eleven oh seven, and cam Ward quarterback twenty three eighteen
Speaker 1: oh one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I'm right on the ADP with
Speaker 2: both Ward and Caleb Williams. I do have Herbert ahead
Speaker 2: of KILEB Williams, so that's the only distinction, So that
Speaker 2: would make kill Williams not necessarily qualify, but I believe
Speaker 2: in the upside with him this year. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to diswuaye anyone away from drafting Caleb Willms again. He'sranked
Speaker 2: back to back with Justin Herbert. I think he could
Speaker 2: be the qpbone overall. I know that was one of
Speaker 2: my Bowl predictions earlier this year. But when we're playing
Speaker 2: the value game, which is what I usually like to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, last year, did Drake Man was like the
Speaker 2: easiest pick in Fantasy. It was just sometimes every year
Speaker 2: you get just like really easy picks, you don't have
Speaker 2: to overthink it. Rock Purty I think is a really
Speaker 2: good value this year, particularly at the quarterback position. Look
Speaker 2: at last season he was second in passing touchdowns per game,
Speaker 2: behind only Matthew Stafford only played half a season because
Speaker 2: he miss gained with his foot injury, but I still
Speaker 2: think he has enough weapons to work with. I like
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers opening schedule. They play the Rams
Speaker 2: early New Year. Believe it's then the Dolphins and the
Speaker 2: Cardinals I think is who they play. So a pretty
Speaker 2: favorable schedule for the forty nine ers to start the year.
Speaker 2: Maybe they start three to oh. I think that Brock
Speaker 2: Prady can get it done. I think he's being just
Speaker 2: a little bit undervalued at QB twelve I have as
Speaker 2: a top ten guy. He's some of that I like,
Speaker 2: but again, must have quarterbacks. I think Justin Herbert is
Speaker 2: probably my favorite.
Speaker 1: Rams, Dolphins, Cardinals, Broncos for right, nailed it for the Niners,
Speaker 1: So good call there. You know, Jayden Daniels two years
Speaker 1: ago was the Drake May of twenty twenty five. Drake
Speaker 1: May obviously was the Jayden Daniels of twenty twenty four. Essentially,
Speaker 1: is there one of those quarterbacks this year for you.
Speaker 2: I think that Malik Willis honestly isn't getting enough love.
Speaker 2: I get that the circumstance answers for him are terrible.
Speaker 2: We already talked about all the Dolphins wide receivers. Even
Speaker 2: though I do think that Greg Dolson is a little
Speaker 2: bit better than people are give him credit for. If
Speaker 2: he's injured, it doesn't really help. However, if you were
Speaker 2: constructing a roster like this, who was the perfect quarterback
Speaker 2: to put on a team that's devoid of pass catchers.
Speaker 2: Malik Willis a guy that can make plays with his legs.
Speaker 2: I think that he just has the opportunity to run
Speaker 2: so much in this offense that he's going to end
Speaker 2: up being a low and fantasy QB won when it's
Speaker 2: all said, none kind of similar that like to Justin
Speaker 2: Fields to the extent where he has certain games where
Speaker 2: he just like flashes such a high ceiling. I do
Speaker 2: think Milik Willis might be just a little bit higher
Speaker 2: as a passer than Justin fields Is. And I mean
Speaker 2: Fields obviously had no weapons last year either. That obviously
Speaker 2: didn't work out. But I think Willis has a little
Speaker 2: bit more job security than Fields did last year. The
Speaker 2: Green Bay staff obviously knows him now in Miami, they
Speaker 2: signed him for a reason. I think he's going to
Speaker 2: probably play all seventeen games. I think he's gonna run
Speaker 2: so much in this offense, so I think by lake
Speaker 2: Willis just trust the process, trust the mobile quarterbacks, especially
Speaker 2: going outside the top twenty. If he starts all seventeen games,
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna easily crush his ADP.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of Willis's my backup quarterback this year,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that happens. But I'm glad to
Speaker 1: hear you say it. We'll take our final break right now.
Speaker 1: When we come back. Running backs, let's talk about them.
Speaker 1: Are they targets or fades or quite frankly neither. Andrew
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Speaker 1: will be spent talking about running backs, targets, and fades. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through this. We don't necessarily need to
Speaker 1: go rapid fire on this, but Andrew, you're a pro.
Speaker 1: You know what you need to say about these guys.
Speaker 1: There are plenty of people having a tough choice at
Speaker 1: the one on one. I'm I'm not sure anybody's fading
Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs. But if you had the one on one pick,
Speaker 1: is it Gibbs over Robinson for you?
Speaker 3: Andrew, Yes, Gibbs over Robinson.
Speaker 2: And because I like the Lions in twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: way more than I like the fountains.
Speaker 1: So the other thing too with that is Atlanta's got
Speaker 1: a brand new coach and OC and like a brand
Speaker 1: new offense and everything, which might be fine for Robinson,
Speaker 1: but I always get a little squeamish when it comes
Speaker 1: to that. At least Gibbs has you know, basically the
Speaker 1: same well definitely the same quarterback, same head coach. I
Speaker 1: know Petsig's there as the OC, but I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I'd be taking Gibbs over Robinson. James Cook is a
Speaker 1: player that is going right now at fairly high I
Speaker 1: know some of that. There was some talk in the
Speaker 1: YouTube chat about him earlier, but James Cook right now
Speaker 1: running back six at the two to oh one might
Speaker 1: be his highest ADP I've ever seen. This is a
Speaker 1: guy that I expected the last couple of years to
Speaker 1: have some regression and it hasn't happened. Is it going
Speaker 1: to happen this year? Is he a target or fade
Speaker 1: for you? At that one two turn?
Speaker 3: He has a target for me.
Speaker 2: I think that James Cook has just continued to fend
Speaker 2: off the regression because he just keeps getting better. You know,
Speaker 2: can't score enough touchdowns, okay, well then he just rushes
Speaker 2: and leads the NFL rushing rds. Can't catch enough passes, Well,
Speaker 2: maybe this year he does. Because at Georgia he had
Speaker 2: no problem catching the ball out of the backfield. So
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's a a ability issue with
Speaker 2: James Cook. I love him a lot as a top
Speaker 2: five running back.
Speaker 1: Is there for anybody who's drafting in a national tournament
Speaker 1: and you're trying to find a backup, like the injury
Speaker 1: way type guy. If Cook were to go down, do
Speaker 1: you think it's a Davis Johnson split or would you
Speaker 1: like one of those guys better than the other.
Speaker 3: I think I still like Ray Davis to be that
Speaker 3: main guy. I know they like Ty.
Speaker 2: I think they just like Ty Johnson in his particular
Speaker 2: role where and maybe that doesn't change that much as
Speaker 2: a pass catcher, someone that they trust in passcro But
Speaker 2: we've seen Ray Davis. I think maybe his rookie year
Speaker 2: where he got a chance to really start in a
Speaker 2: game and he flashed big time upside.
Speaker 3: So I do actually leenhard Ray Daves.
Speaker 2: Ray Davis is actually one of my favorite handcuffs to
Speaker 2: draft because although I do really like James Cook this year,
Speaker 2: I do want to acknowledge that the regression may come
Speaker 2: for the Bills, not in the form of his production,
Speaker 2: but Bills were very healthy on offense last year. The
Speaker 2: offensive line was very healthy last year, so that's something
Speaker 2: talking about getting squeamish that I always trying to keep
Speaker 2: in the back of my mind with those types of
Speaker 2: trends don't tend to stay year over year. I just
Speaker 2: asked the really healthy twenty twenty four Baltimore Ravens how
Speaker 2: things shaped up in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I know how you're going to weigh in on this,
Speaker 1: but Chase Brown has moved up to running back nine
Speaker 1: at the two to ZHO five and there are people
Speaker 1: out there. I think you're one of them wondering why
Speaker 1: he's going that low.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown is so teed up to just absolutely smash
Speaker 2: this season. It's so comical to think how little he's
Speaker 2: being paid because he's a former fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 2: He's making less money than Emmanuel Wilson ra Shad White.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty bonkers. But it's a contract year for
Speaker 2: Chase Brown, and after this season, he's going to get paid,
Speaker 2: whether it's the Bengals but somebody else. Three down skill set,
Speaker 2: top ten running back in the second half of last
Speaker 2: year when Joe Burrow came back. We all want pieces
Speaker 2: of this offense, and yet we don't think that Chase
Speaker 2: Brow would be a tophig run back. I think that
Speaker 2: he really much can so give me Jase Brown improved
Speaker 2: every single year of his career, great in pass pro
Speaker 2: receiver out of the backfield. Joe Burrow loves him. The
Speaker 2: head coach, Dac Taylor loves him. I think that this
Speaker 2: is like the Kyrien Williams thing all over again, where
Speaker 2: it's like, ah, like, should we buy into it? He's
Speaker 2: a Day three pick? Should we buy into it? A
Speaker 2: Day three pick? And then by the time you just
Speaker 2: like finally buy into it's too late and he's already
Speaker 2: just continuing to smash.
Speaker 3: So let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I have him on a
Speaker 1: bunch of dynasty leagues and hopefully he if he gets
Speaker 1: a massive contract in the offseason. You know, he helped
Speaker 1: your fantasy team this year. Mamari and Hampton, we talked
Speaker 1: about the Chargers before. What's exciting to me is is
Speaker 1: Alton Slater are healthy now, and yeah, McDaniel comes in
Speaker 1: and and uh, they bring in Keaton Mitchell, which I
Speaker 1: think is more. Uh he's the speed guy, right, He's
Speaker 1: definitely faster than Hampton. But this offense should be really
Speaker 1: good and in Hampton it should be the Bell Cow
Speaker 1: there is he would would he ride to a target
Speaker 1: Moniker for you?
Speaker 3: And drafts this year one hundred. I think that he
Speaker 3: has a lot of upside this year.
Speaker 2: And I think that Hampton is another player that when
Speaker 2: you look at the early season schedule for the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers, Cardinals, Raiders, Bills, can you name a better
Speaker 2: setup for a running back than those three defenses. You
Speaker 2: may not be a lever in Omaron Hampton, but if
Speaker 2: he's gonna smash the first three weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: then you can trade him for literally anybody. You should
Speaker 2: probably draft that guy. So Omaron Hampton. I know some
Speaker 2: people are concerned about Keaton Mitchell. I'm not really concerned.
Speaker 2: I just want this Chargers offense in every which way,
Speaker 2: Like I just I'm upsessed. It's probably unhealthy, but especially
Speaker 2: because it's the Chargers who are as Adam in the
Speaker 2: chat is pointing out a curse franchise. I would say
Speaker 2: they've been less cursed since Harbaugh arrived there, but still
Speaker 2: a very curse franchise.
Speaker 1: Most losing the two tackles last year.
Speaker 3: That was, Yeah, that was the curse last year.
Speaker 1: And you know, wasn't it Wasn't it something in the
Speaker 1: effect of like like a alt was hurt and then
Speaker 1: he came back, and then Slater went down, and then
Speaker 1: all went down. You know, it's just and then Trey Pipkins.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh my god, that guy. That guy should
Speaker 3: not be anywhere near football. All right.
Speaker 1: We move on to Kenneth Walker here too, a guy
Speaker 1: who struggled with injuries, but he has not struggled with
Speaker 1: making big explosive plays for Seattle. He finds himself in
Speaker 1: Kansas City this year an offense uh kind of in
Speaker 1: in transition, right, we see, you know, Travis Kelcey sort
Speaker 1: of on his way out. We don't know what to
Speaker 1: expect with Raschi. Rise should be a nice bounce back
Speaker 1: season for Xavier Worthy, but outside of that, you know,
Speaker 1: this might be a team that wants to run the
Speaker 1: ball as much as they can.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have to.
Speaker 2: I think that Ken Walker's gonna get everything that he
Speaker 2: wants and more in terms of volume in the Chiefs
Speaker 2: offense to open the year. And it's just a matter
Speaker 2: of can he hold up Another player that I think
Speaker 2: if you draft came in a redraft format, maybe it's
Speaker 2: someone that you put on the block knowing that Hey,
Speaker 2: maybe he isn't always a player that is loaded up
Speaker 2: with touches. However, I think that he's just such a
Speaker 2: perfect fit in the Chiefs offense. I think that even
Speaker 2: if his efficiency isn't great to start the year, I
Speaker 2: think he makes up for it in volume. And then
Speaker 2: as Mahomes kind of gets his legs under him coming
Speaker 2: back from his ACL injury, maybe Walker they take a
Speaker 2: little bit of the load off of him if they
Speaker 2: were trying to make a playoff run. But then you
Speaker 2: see that efficiency resurface because we know how good he
Speaker 2: is your death to contact, we know how how good
Speaker 2: he is effective at forcing mistackles, and everyone talks about
Speaker 2: again except Chris Collinsworth ken Walker is a good receiver. Okay,
Speaker 2: Like it was such a stark comment he made during
Speaker 2: the super was like, this guy can't catch pass like Chris. Yes,
Speaker 2: he can, Like, come on, like he can catch pass.
Speaker 2: Like he's not going to pass bro Like that's true.
Speaker 2: But he can clearly catch pass out of the backfield.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about Cam Walker.
Speaker 1: Uh, Javonte Williams. Is he being underdrafted right now? FFPC
Speaker 1: players are not taking this dude until running back seventeen
Speaker 1: at the three to eleven despite an un believable season
Speaker 1: last year on a really good offense.
Speaker 2: I think Jamonti Williams is going later than he did
Speaker 2: his sophomore year when it was Jamontay Williams versus like
Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon as in the Denver backfield.
Speaker 3: He's coming off a monster season.
Speaker 2: I get that it kind of tailed off towards the
Speaker 2: end of the year, but still cumultively plays on one
Speaker 2: of the best offenses that we feel about. He's only
Speaker 2: twenty six years old. He got paid by the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I think we're kind of overthinking it here with Javonta.
Speaker 2: I think that he is when you're looking at who
Speaker 2: you can get, is your RB two Getting him that
Speaker 2: late he's kind of one of my like javonte A,
Speaker 2: chan Brice Hall, those guys you can get at your
Speaker 2: RB twos, Like that to me is just kind of like, Wow,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of value here with even like I
Speaker 2: know we talk about like some of these top tier
Speaker 2: running backs at the top of the draft. We love
Speaker 2: these guys, but there's a lot of depth going down
Speaker 2: the board here in this RB two range where I
Speaker 2: feel like there's RB one upside with guys like Travis
Speaker 2: ah Chan and Brisaw and Javonta Williams who did it
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: Last thing going to wrap up with and this is
Speaker 1: a news thing. Andrew Cameron wolf would go back to
Speaker 1: his reporting for the NFL Network. He said that the
Speaker 1: Panthers had expectations of Jonathan Brooks potentially being the number
Speaker 1: one running back in Carolina this year over Toba Hubbard,
Speaker 1: which just seemed like they just paid last year or
Speaker 1: whatever it was the year before. Wolfe also said, obviously
Speaker 1: Brooks has to be healthy enough to do this, but
Speaker 1: there is this ground swell of Jonathan Brooks and it's
Speaker 1: been growing since January and FFPC drafts. Brooks, you know,
Speaker 1: went from being like a late round flyer to running
Speaker 1: back thirty four in the seventh round right now, Andrew,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about him at that price tag?
Speaker 3: It's getting pretty steep, to say the least.
Speaker 2: I thought I was high on Jonathan Brooks my initial rankings,
Speaker 2: and I look at his Adpm'm like, oh no, Like I'm.
Speaker 3: Following behind it right here.
Speaker 2: So I think there's a point where we started gaining
Speaker 2: control because he does have to prove it at some point.
Speaker 2: But I, if anything, this makes me want to fete
Speaker 2: you be Hubbard, like I can't draft. So even if
Speaker 2: you're not drafting Jonathan Brooks at this price, this should
Speaker 2: terrify you of Chuba Hubbard because he already lost his
Speaker 2: once last year Rico Dawbell, zero explosive runs last year,
Speaker 2: and not a very good pass catcher. So I think
Speaker 2: it makes sense that the Panthers are open to the
Speaker 2: idea of, like, yeah, we want Jonathan Brooks because we
Speaker 2: think that he can be more explosive.
Speaker 3: Is he's healthy. He's only twenty three years old.
Speaker 2: He took Troopa Hubbard off the field and passing situations
Speaker 2: the last time we saw these guys both healthy in
Speaker 2: the lineup.
Speaker 3: We know that Hubbard's not that's not his game at yards.
Speaker 2: Barrout run has always been very low throughout most of
Speaker 2: his career, and the last two seasons Truop Hubbard has
Speaker 2: broken down. So I think that Jonathan Brooks is gonna
Speaker 2: have a big role in this offense. Maybe it's a
Speaker 2: little bit more muddled than we'd like to expect, but
Speaker 2: if the Panthers are trying to open up a little
Speaker 2: bit more in the passing game. Maybe you do see
Speaker 2: a little bit more from Jonathan Brooks catch pass out
Speaker 2: of the backfield. So again, if I you're making me
Speaker 2: pick up Panther's running back, I'm gonna take Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know you talk about the price tag.
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of like like I'm on the fence
Speaker 1: right there. But man, if he gets to be like
Speaker 1: an early seventh round pick, I might be out on
Speaker 1: Brooks at that point just because of the health thing.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that's had so many
Speaker 1: issues and we're talking about soaking an early seventh round pick.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's for me. I know
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Speaker 3: I know it's June, but we're talking fantasy. What else
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