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<v Speaker 1>The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Jake Knovak in with you live this evening

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<v Speaker 2>in for the Great Roger Stone. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for the opportunity, and it's kind of a cool time

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the air live because we're counting down

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<v Speaker 2>to President Trump's highly anticipated still kind of stealthy live

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<v Speaker 2>address to the nation. We're expecting it to be about

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<v Speaker 2>election integrity, which could be anything from discussing the problems

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<v Speaker 2>with ballot harvesting, the problems with mail and ballots in general,

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<v Speaker 2>to specific elections that he might pinpoint that have some

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<v Speaker 2>really funky stuff that went on that were never explained.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I peak at the mainstream news media, there

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<v Speaker 2>disingenuous non journalistic previews for this speech. They're all saying

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<v Speaker 2>that basically, Trump's gonna lie, don't listen. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what journalists are, this is what journalism is in

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<v Speaker 2>a Marria in twenty twenty six, telling people not to

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to the president talking and they wonder why

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<v Speaker 2>they know their business model is dying and so many

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<v Speaker 2>people are getting laid off. It's going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting speech. There were some reports a few days ago

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<v Speaker 2>that he might pinpoint the two Senate elections in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>where we have Rafael Warnock and John Ossoff, two Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>in a really red state of Georgia. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>the elections there are closer than they've been in recent

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<v Speaker 2>years in some cases, and they did vote for Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>But george is a pretty deep red state, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was proven during the twenty twenty four elections with less

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<v Speaker 2>chickanery going on there, and Trump won Georgia pretty clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>So he might talk about that. He might talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, what happened in Wisconsin where suddenly they closed

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<v Speaker 2>the doors and we don't know what happened and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of votes get counted. Of course, that was

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<v Speaker 2>really also more of an issue in the Atlanta Fulton

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<v Speaker 2>County elections offices in twenty twenty. So there may be

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<v Speaker 2>these kinds of discussions and before you fall for and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure many of you listening here aren't falling for it,

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<v Speaker 2>but before you fall for the narratives that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that I'm seeing on these other mainstream channels

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<v Speaker 2>just out of the corner of my eye saying these

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<v Speaker 2>saying that everything Trump says tonight is debunked. It's not debunked.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never investigated. We don't audit our elections in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. We should, but until we do, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can't say this is a debunk claim, debunked by whom?

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<v Speaker 2>Were there investigators who looked into it, and really no

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<v Speaker 2>it Just because you say it's debunked doesn't mean it's debunked.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I always say, and I hope everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't heard this before will listen to it now. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you have heard me say it before, just please

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<v Speaker 2>remember this. And this is of course the biggest problem

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, where we had this massive number of

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<v Speaker 2>millions and millions and millions of mail in ballots. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you have one mail in ballot

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<v Speaker 2>or ten million or one hundred million. The same thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm about to say is true. Mail and ballots

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<v Speaker 2>are not secret ballots, duh, they're not. See And if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a secret ballot in your election, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not legitimate period fraud or no fraud. A mail in

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<v Speaker 2>ballot filled out by I don't know who, under whose

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<v Speaker 2>influence I don't know is not legitimate, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>American history to prove it. Non secret balloting in this

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<v Speaker 2>country was banned, and it got a lot of traction

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<v Speaker 2>in the years after reconstruction when we had competitive elections

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<v Speaker 2>in the South again and they put a ballot box

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<v Speaker 2>for Republicans and a ballot box for Democrats, and very

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<v Speaker 2>often you voted at work so your boss could see

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<v Speaker 2>how you voted, or you voted in public, not secret ballots.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again, here is my gift to those who

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<v Speaker 2>want to fight for election integrity. Here it is, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something better than you get from the professional political

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<v Speaker 2>consultants who are all all bad at what they do

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<v Speaker 2>and are all bad people. Full time political consultants are

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<v Speaker 2>bad human beings. There are a huge reason why our

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<v Speaker 2>country is a mess right now because they continue to

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<v Speaker 2>have influence even after elections, and they mold policy based

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<v Speaker 2>on small polls here and there, and they all think

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<v Speaker 2>they're successful because gee, you know, in a fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty society, because we do have a pretty split electorate

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, even the worst political consultant's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be batting five hundred. But here's my gift. Here's some

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<v Speaker 2>good political advice. If I were a political consultant. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>some gold I'm gonna give you, and I've given it

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<v Speaker 2>to the country before, no charge. Again, my alter ego

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<v Speaker 2>is Jake Novak, unemployable political consultant. Why am I unemployable?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I give good advice and I want the country

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<v Speaker 2>to do well instead of some guy running for dogcatcher.

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<v Speaker 2>So here it is, you want to stop mail in

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<v Speaker 2>balloting in this country because it's all illegitimate. A mail

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<v Speaker 2>in ballot is illegitimate by its face on his face,

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<v Speaker 2>fraud or no fraud. It's not a secret ballot. My god,

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<v Speaker 2>how many hundreds of years in our society have we known,

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<v Speaker 2>in all society that non secret ballots aren't legitimate? How

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<v Speaker 2>long have we nound this? Hundreds of years. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Australians are the first to figure this out, the

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<v Speaker 2>first secret ballot. I think we're called the Australian ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, here's what you do. You put a commercial on.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a guy in a wife beater T shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>big burly, disgusting guy leaning over his wife with her

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<v Speaker 2>shaky hand, filling out the mail in ballot and we

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<v Speaker 2>all know what's going on there. That'll solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Real fast. I don't know who's forcing who to fill

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<v Speaker 2>out what bubble in the paper. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>people know what they're doing. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 2>have any privacy whatsoever. And that's why mail in ballots,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things, are not legitimate. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see any mail in ballots and any election ever, not one. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jake, what about our troops overseas. They can vote

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<v Speaker 2>on a secure laptop like people do in embassies and

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<v Speaker 2>consulates for foreign countries all over the world. But what

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in a battle. They're in a battle, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not voting yet, jack Wagon, they're getting shot at. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think filling out a ballot is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>their first priority, do you you moron? If you're on

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<v Speaker 2>a military base overseas, you can go to the PX

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<v Speaker 2>and vote on a secure laptop. That's it. No mail

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<v Speaker 2>in ballots. And I really hope that the President tonight

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<v Speaker 2>makes that argument or something along those lines. I know

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna if this speech really is about election integrity,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's going to continue some of the messages

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<v Speaker 2>he's made in the past, rightfully so, denigrating the validity

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<v Speaker 2>of mail in ballots, but I hope he goes as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I do and remind people that no mail

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<v Speaker 2>in ballot is ever legitimate in any election. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see any non secret ballots cast in any election.

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<v Speaker 2>They're phony, they're not reliable. And I'm all for voter

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<v Speaker 2>at convenience. If you want to vote in person a

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<v Speaker 2>week or two before the election, fine, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you're voting in person and a secret booth ballot kind

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<v Speaker 2>of situation like we have. And I think that giving

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<v Speaker 2>people a week or ten days before an election day,

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<v Speaker 2>like so many states and cities do, to vote in

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<v Speaker 2>person like that is more than enough accommodation for people.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see great voter participation out there, I

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<v Speaker 2>really do, but there's only so much we can do.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're dragging people to vote and forcing them to

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<v Speaker 2>vote and pushing their nose into the ballot, then that's

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<v Speaker 2>also not really legitimate. It's kind of like co worst charity.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the great Jewish rabbis and philosophers of all

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<v Speaker 2>times said that about charity. If you're forcing someone to

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<v Speaker 2>give charity, then it's not charity. It may not be

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<v Speaker 2>a sin per se, but it's certainly not a good

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<v Speaker 2>deed if you're forced to do it. Co worce, charity

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<v Speaker 2>is not charity, and co worse, voting is not really

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate either. I would love so sure vote in person

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<v Speaker 2>ten days in advance you want to, that's great, vote

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<v Speaker 2>on election day even better. Mail in ballots never, never

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<v Speaker 2>should be allowed. Even Democrats like Jimmy Carter used to

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<v Speaker 2>know this well. I don't know if he died knowing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he changed his tune, but he talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember for years after his presidency. He was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those election and inspectors that the UN would send to

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<v Speaker 2>places or the US would send the places, usually Latin America,

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<v Speaker 2>and he denigrated the whole idea of mail in ballots rightfully.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>But if President Trump goes into specific election stuff about

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<v Speaker 2>how ballots showed up late somewhere and talks about ballot harvesting,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also illegitimate. Someone going into a neighborhood with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of ballots and telling people here, sign this,

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<v Speaker 2>when we have no idea whether the person knows what

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<v Speaker 2>they're signing. And also that isn't a secret ballot. That

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<v Speaker 2>should not be legitimate. We should not be allowed ballot harvesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure he'll talk about a lot of these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and we should give it our attention. Folks don't listen

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<v Speaker 2>to what the mainstream media says. There's no evidence of it,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no evidence, that's never any investigation. These elections don't

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<v Speaker 2>get audited. The FBI has been investigating under the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>this new Trump term, the second term of Trump, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he'll talk about some of the things that have

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<v Speaker 2>been uncovered. I understand that a good deal of the

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<v Speaker 2>country is not going to believe what the president says

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<v Speaker 2>about this, that there is indeed evidence of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear it. And you got AOC Alexandria

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<v Speaker 2>Casio Cortez, the congresswoman from New York, saying that no

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<v Speaker 2>one should air his speech. You know, here's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a cheat sheet. And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who say things publicly. I'm going to place some

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<v Speaker 2>some of those guys later in this program. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys and gals who say things public who

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<v Speaker 2>really wish didn't say anything. I really don't like them.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of those cheat sheets in life is if

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<v Speaker 2>you have somebody who says someone shouldn't be given the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone should never be allowed to speak pretty good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good, you know, indicator that the person telling the

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<v Speaker 2>other people they can't speak is the bad guy. You're

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guy if you say you should turn off

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<v Speaker 2>the mic. I'm you know. I got into an argument

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<v Speaker 2>today online with the big namejournalist who I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>is a very good guy. I don't think he should

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<v Speaker 2>be censored. Kind of hate what he said, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he should be censored. Jeez, if I need

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<v Speaker 2>my opponents to be censored, then I'm really not much

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<v Speaker 2>of a of a pundit or someone who more important.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't like that term pundit. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>be an essayist and someone who really wants to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on good policy for America and good policy for America.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite good policies would be more election integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>We have almost none right now. People do not trust

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<v Speaker 2>the election process. It has been dirtied up by this

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<v Speaker 2>whole mail in ballot explosion, by ballot harvesting, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a form of mail in ballots, and it's very disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very disturbing, and to call anyone who has a

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<v Speaker 2>problem with these kinds of elections a problem where someone

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<v Speaker 2>is leading by an x amount of os at three

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<v Speaker 2>am and then the lights go off in the Board

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<v Speaker 2>of Elections and suddenly there's a bunch of ballots that

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<v Speaker 2>go the other way to call that person an election

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<v Speaker 2>to deny or for questioning that is, you know, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gas lighting. And gaslighting is a really overused term.

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<v Speaker 2>The two most overused terms in America today are gaslighting

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<v Speaker 2>serious disorder. There thankfully, very few of those in the

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<v Speaker 2>world right now. There's some selfish people, but that's different.

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<v Speaker 2>And gaslighting is also overused. But when you tell people

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<v Speaker 2>It's not being hysterical. We all have a right to

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<v Speaker 2>know there's no evidence. Do you mean there's no evidence?

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<v Speaker 2>It's never the way things went in all the years

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other countries that have a lot of other problems,

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<v Speaker 2>problems in those countries, okay, but their elections seem to

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope the President addresses each and every one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. When I come back. Let's talk about the president,

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<v Speaker 2>his number two at least in the constitutional roster, vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Vance. I have some advice for him. Again, I

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to take on my alter ego of Jake Novak,

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<v Speaker 2>unemployable political consultant, because I actually have some good advice

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<v Speaker 2>for the vice president. Stay soon for.

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<v Speaker 1>That The Stone Zone Entertaining and Informative on the Red

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Roger Stone and

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<v Speaker 2>with me as my alter ego Jake Novak, unemployable political consultant.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I unemployable? Because I give good advice and

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<v Speaker 2>the political consulting firms don't want people who give good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>They like giving bad advice and they thrive on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to give some good advice now to

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<v Speaker 2>our Vice President Jade Vance, who is doing everything all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>If he truly wants to run for president in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>he needs to change a lot of what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And before I get into the Israel aspect of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged anti Semitism, let's just talk about the optics here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just pretend he was talking about hamburgers and not

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<v Speaker 2>Israel or widgets or whatever you want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he's appearing weak. He's going on Joe

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<v Speaker 2>there's a campaign against him. That's weak. That's weak. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to come off strong, even if you are being persecuted,

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<v Speaker 2>even if there is some unfairness. You come off strong,

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<v Speaker 2>not like a whiny little boy, which he did. Never

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I don't care if you're a Republican Democrat,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. The Democrats like strength in their candidates. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't nominate good strong candidates, but they don't have really

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<v Speaker 2>many choices, but they would like to see more strength.

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<v Speaker 2>They love the nastiness. Ninety nine percent of Gavin Newsom's appeal,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not as strong as it was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. Let's face it, he's having a hard time,

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<v Speaker 2>but ninety nine percent of his appeals. That of his appeals.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a nasty sob on social media, which I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think is really that great, but just goes to

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<v Speaker 2>show being stronger rather than a whiner can work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So here he is on Joe Rogan saying, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the deal with the Irandan work out, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>he's blaming Israel for it, which is just again imagine

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying the word hamburgers. Take take the Israel part

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<v Speaker 2>out of the equation. This is a whiny boy as

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, and again with limitations like when the Iranians hit ships,

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<v Speaker 4>the president has been willing to knock the hell out

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<v Speaker 4>of the Iranians in response. This is not just a negotiation,

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<v Speaker 4>it's negotiation. Its military as all these things, but I

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<v Speaker 4>know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're people

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<v Speaker 4>within the Israeli government who are trying to like actually

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<v Speaker 2>And I had this whole deal. I did my homework,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote a memorandum of understanding and everyone signed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And these really didn't want to do it. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do it because Yiran is an evil

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<v Speaker 2>they signed. Any person could have told you that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I tried to get everyone to understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be such a whiny little person. And I said

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<v Speaker 2>this to him all the pro Israel friends too, don't

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<v Speaker 2>be whiny about what's in this memorandum of understanding because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. It could be us promising you ran

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<v Speaker 2>unicorns and rainbows. They would still break it. The only

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<v Speaker 2>question we needed to ask then, as we do now,

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<v Speaker 2>is what is President Trump going to do when they

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<v Speaker 2>do break it? Because they will break it. And that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take long, did it. This is a whiny vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good. Usually, the vice president's role traditionally has

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<v Speaker 2>been to be even nastier than the price, take the

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<v Speaker 2>bully pulpit, do what the president wants, talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>the president wants in a really, really even tougher sharper way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you do it. That's how you be as strong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you are to be a strong vice president

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<v Speaker 2>and a potential presidential successor at some point. Again, you

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<v Speaker 2>think this is about Israel here, it's not. This is

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<v Speaker 2>about optics. This is about how you sound. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is someone complaining on the biggest podcast there is that

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<v Speaker 2>the Israelis wanted to continue a way. Israelis don't want war.

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<v Speaker 2>They just know that signing a little piece of paper

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<v Speaker 2>isn't gonna matter and more people will die. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>take the isn't a part of the equation out of

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<v Speaker 2>it if you can. Most people can't. They're too craze

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<v Speaker 2>one way or the other over Israel. And I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>But see if you can have a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>to say to JD. Vans in a second. This is free,

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<v Speaker 2>real advice from someone who can't be employed by pocolitical

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<v Speaker 2>consultancy firms because I give good advice. Stay with us

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<v Speaker 2>here on the stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Zone, the stone zone, entertaining and informative on the Red

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight thirty four am East PMPM. My goodness, I

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of morning stuff, so that's why eight

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four pm here Eastern time Zone. I'm Jake Novak

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<v Speaker 2>filling in for Roger Stone this evening. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a big reason why our country has so many political

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<v Speaker 2>problems and cultural problems is because of political consultants. They're

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<v Speaker 2>really bad at what they do, and for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>they're bad people. I'm talking about the people in DC

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<v Speaker 2>who work at those big firms. They give bad advice,

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<v Speaker 2>and whoever is advising jd Vance right now really should

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<v Speaker 2>give back whatever money he's getting or she's getting, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing a terrible job for the man they really

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<v Speaker 2>are now. Ultimately, it's Jdvance's responseability. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>and does. He's an adult and he's the Vice presid

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States. But honestly, he's getting bad advice

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<v Speaker 2>from people who either don't know their history or just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know politics well enough to work in this country. So,

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to as I said before the break and

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<v Speaker 2>played the SoundBite of him complaining about Israel. He's working

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<v Speaker 2>against him, and they wanted a war to continue, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just didn't work for me, just coming off weak

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<v Speaker 2>and whiny, which is never good. It's never good in politics,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Even phony bravado is better than real whining,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you think you've got a reason to I

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<v Speaker 2>learned that my senior year of high school was early

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen eighty eight presidential primary process, and George

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<v Speaker 2>This is early nineteen eighty eight and George bus du

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<v Speaker 2>Bush does a live interview with Dan Rapt on CBS

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<v Speaker 2>of people were surprised because George hw Bush is like

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<v Speaker 2>mister nice guy and kind of saw spoken, and people

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<v Speaker 2>setup but by his campaign people back when there were

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<v Speaker 2>better political advisors out there. But it worked. Gosh darn it.

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<v Speaker 2>If it didn't work, it made him seem strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dole campaign. He and he pretty much cake walked to

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<v Speaker 2>the nomination, give or take a couple of stumbles here

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<v Speaker 2>and there in nineteen eighty eight. Now, another thing that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get you good traction in addition to being a

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<v Speaker 2>whiner is being a conspiracy theorist. As in the political realm,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that on podcasts and make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in mainstream media now or on the media you can

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<v Speaker 2>do that, But as a candidate you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this time it is something specific. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the realm of anti semitism or Israel bashing,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. Again, being whiny and complaining was

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really about being critical of Israel. If you

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's hard, I know it's really hard, but try.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case though, don't forget it, because anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel bashing has never really had great success in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. Yes, it gets you in it it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling of invulnerability. It's like cocaine. But then the

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<v Speaker 2>I know it feels like to a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that anti Semitism is exploding right now and everyone's really

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<v Speaker 2>doing great with it, but it's a great way to

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<v Speaker 2>basically put a very low ceiling on your political career. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there is only one variable to that, the variable being

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<v Speaker 2>that this country has bi legal and legal means imported

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<v Speaker 2>of way, and so they do add a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a variable. But here's the thing, Jade Vance is

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican. The kind of people who we've impoored into

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<v Speaker 4>He clearly had connections to the upper the highest levels

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein thing with Joe Rogan and he say he clearly

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<v Speaker 2>there's absolutely no evidence of that. There's no evidence of that. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it just defies all logic. Look at all the Jewish

419
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<v Speaker 2>pro Israel people who have been ensnared in this Epstein scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>People originally people like Alan Dershowitz, who's had to fight

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<v Speaker 2>back against a lot of libel and slander allegations. I

422
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<v Speaker 2>don't think he was involved in anything really disgusting with

423
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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein, but he was working with him. Would why

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<v Speaker 2>would Mosad want to smear him? Why would Mosad want

425
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<v Speaker 2>to smear Larry Summers. There's a few other Jewish people

426
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<v Speaker 2>who have been very badly tainted by Jeffrey Epstein pro

427
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<v Speaker 2>Israel people. It makes no sense that he would be

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<v Speaker 2>with Mosad. It makes no sense that he would be

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<v Speaker 2>with an intelligen community. Would an intelligence community to be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in some of the dealings he was having some

431
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<v Speaker 2>of the compromising positions he had some of these people

432
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<v Speaker 2>get into, sure, but he wasn't working for them. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no evidence of that. And you know, we've got all

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<v Speaker 2>these files and there's no evidence of that. But he's

435
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<v Speaker 2>playing this conspiracy theory. And I'm I'm telling you right now.

436
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<v Speaker 2>It works in podcasts. It's going to work for Joe Rogan,

437
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<v Speaker 2>real well, it's going to work for Tucker Carlson, real well,

438
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<v Speaker 2>it's going to work for a lot of people in

439
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<v Speaker 2>those kinds of professions really well. But it's not going

440
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<v Speaker 2>to work well in an American campaign. Ask Father Coglin.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many of the listeners right now

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<v Speaker 2>know who Father Coughlin was, but he was a Catholic

443
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<v Speaker 2>priest who was hugely popular on the radio for many

444
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<v Speaker 2>years virulin anti Semite until the archdias has told him

445
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<v Speaker 2>to cut it out. Took a long time for that

446
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<v Speaker 2>to happen, but he flamed. He had a very low

447
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<v Speaker 2>ceiling to how far he was going to go. He

448
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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a radio personality soaking up old

449
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<v Speaker 2>school anti Semitism. He was never going to be anything

450
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<v Speaker 2>other than that. And Jade Vance does the double wami

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<v Speaker 2>here the conspiracy theory thing, which also does or it

452
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<v Speaker 2>actually it makes it seem The thing about conspiracy theories

453
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<v Speaker 2>that I don't like is they promote powerlessness, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of powerlessness that there's all these guys behind the scenes

455
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<v Speaker 2>doing X, Y and z and we can't do anything

456
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<v Speaker 2>about it. Well, in that case, you know, why bother running?

457
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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you just go live in a bunker somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I got to have some hope when somebody's running,

459
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<v Speaker 2>whether you're right wing or left wing, I gotta have

460
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<v Speaker 2>someone running who's saying there's something wrong out there and

461
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna fix it. Not I don't know who's doing this,

462
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<v Speaker 2>it's there. They're unbeatable, they can't be defeated. There's a

463
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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory out there. I mean, it's just it's so defeatist.

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<v Speaker 2>It also doesn't give me any specific idea of what

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to do. To fix it. Man, Vice President Vance,

466
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<v Speaker 2>you are getting some really really bad advice. Ultimately you're

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for it, but you got to find out. You

468
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<v Speaker 2>gotta do something about who's giving you this bad advice.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the only little variable you got going for

470
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<v Speaker 2>you is that the whole anti Semitism thing, which puts

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<v Speaker 2>a very low ceiling on your future, might be a

472
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<v Speaker 2>little bit more loo gritive now in some ways, because

473
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<v Speaker 2>again we've impourted tens of millions of jew haters into

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<v Speaker 2>this country and women haters and America haters and freedom haters.

475
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<v Speaker 2>But ultimately they're not voting Republican ever. And ultimately, you know,

476
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<v Speaker 2>that's another issue. They're anti Americans. So I really don't

477
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<v Speaker 2>know where you're going for them. You're going for the

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<v Speaker 2>non patriotic group. It makes no sense. It's a stupid

479
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<v Speaker 2>political strategy. If you can summit and most of us

480
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<v Speaker 2>can't do it, and I understand why you can't do it,

481
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<v Speaker 2>but just imagine for a second that we're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Jewish people, we're not talking about anti Semitism, we're

483
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<v Speaker 2>not talking about Israel. Just try to get out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot of people online who you

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<v Speaker 2>know who talk about me and another guy here at

486
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<v Speaker 2>our parent network here WABC sid Rosmen, we're always talking

487
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<v Speaker 2>about these the Jews and Israel. Well, actually you're always

488
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<v Speaker 2>talking about them. It's your obsession. But here's your chance.

489
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to remove those things. Would you vote for

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's whining about somebody working against them. That's not

491
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<v Speaker 2>a strong persona to project yourself as a candidate. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you vote for someone who's who's who's promoting conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 2>with no evidence, even if you believe them. Remember, the

494
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<v Speaker 2>point of talking about conspiracy theories all the time is

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<v Speaker 2>just to remind everyone how powerless we are, how we

496
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Really, we can't get to the folks who

497
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<v Speaker 2>are doing X, Y and z. That's not what we

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<v Speaker 2>go to the polls to vote for. It might be

499
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<v Speaker 2>completely irra you know, irrational, but we vote for in

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<v Speaker 2>the hope that the guy or gal we're voting for

501
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<v Speaker 2>is going to fix this thing, not going to complain

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<v Speaker 2>about it, not gonna tell us well, there's an unseen

503
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<v Speaker 2>hand of power here. I can't get No. That's that

504
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do anything. That's great for a podcast, it's great

505
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<v Speaker 2>for a session in the common room, at the dorm

506
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<v Speaker 2>where everyone's a little drunk or stoned and you're talking

507
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<v Speaker 2>about your stupid theories. But it's death politically. It's death politically.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do that kind of stuff, you project

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<v Speaker 2>yourself is weak and as a loser. And there's one

510
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<v Speaker 2>more thing I'll say about the whole JD advanced thing

511
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<v Speaker 2>that I have said for years and I think is absolutely, undeniably,

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<v Speaker 2>objectively true. If you remember nothing else, remember this. You

513
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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be the front runner for president anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>before eight or seven months before general election day. Being

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<v Speaker 2>a front runner for president a year out, two years out,

516
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<v Speaker 2>two years in, change out is death. It puts a

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<v Speaker 2>huge target on you. It puts all the focus on you,

518
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<v Speaker 2>and it almost always ends up in you not winning.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some exceptions. I mean Donald Trump being the

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<v Speaker 2>front runner for the Republican nomination in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really count. The guy was the incumbent president basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't in office. And you know what

523
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he had already had a term. He was

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<v Speaker 2>already in the public eye in that way, he already

525
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<v Speaker 2>had the bulls eye around him. He breaks up a

526
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<v Speaker 2>lot of the norms and the axioms of politics. But

527
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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be a front runner too early

528
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<v Speaker 2>in this game, folks, it's death. Ask Howard Dean, Ask

529
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<v Speaker 2>Paul songas you probably remember who the heck that is.

530
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<v Speaker 2>Ask Hillary Clinton. She was a front runner way too

531
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<v Speaker 2>early in the process. And you don't want that. So

532
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<v Speaker 2>if Jade Vance was doing this thing to push the

533
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<v Speaker 2>memorandum of understanding and to go on Joe Rogan now

534
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<v Speaker 2>and do all these kinds of things in the hopes

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<v Speaker 2>of getting into the inside lane for president in twenty

536
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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, even if he just did everything right, even

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<v Speaker 2>if he took all the used all the right persona,

538
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<v Speaker 2>used all the right messages which he did, which he didn't,

539
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<v Speaker 2>it would still not be so smart. Now you're still

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president. You can't go run and run and

541
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<v Speaker 2>hide under a tree. But if you do have to

542
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<v Speaker 2>say something, do big picture stuff. And honestly, I know

543
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people talk about Marco Rubio. He's not

544
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<v Speaker 2>even we don't even know if he's running for president,

545
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<v Speaker 2>but if he is, this is the kind of thing

546
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<v Speaker 2>that you would want to do two years in change

547
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<v Speaker 2>before general election day, talking about big picture stuff, large

548
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<v Speaker 2>policy stuff and sounding like a statesman.

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<v Speaker 5>Here he is today the most essential duty of the state,

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<v Speaker 5>The first responsibility, frankly, of any government of any kind

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<v Speaker 5>is the protection of its people. It's the protection of

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<v Speaker 5>its country. This is a sacred obligation that should transcend

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<v Speaker 5>all political and all ideological divisions. It is why, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>we have militaries, have intelligence agencies. It's why counter terrorism

555
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<v Speaker 5>bureaus exist, why police forces exist. Keeping our people safe

556
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<v Speaker 5>is the reason why every country represented here has all

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<v Speaker 5>of these things the most.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, again, large scale, the first job of

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<v Speaker 2>our political structure is to keep people safe. Yeah, that's

560
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<v Speaker 2>Thomas High. That's some of the great political philosophy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's running. I really don't think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are assuming he's running. If gun to

563
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<v Speaker 2>my head, i'd say, yeah, sure. But that's the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of speech you want to make. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be going on podcast whining about stuff and promoting conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we come back speaking of people who make

567
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<v Speaker 2>wrong moves. Luigi Mangione. I know he's real popular among

568
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<v Speaker 2>the crazed leftist groups, but you know he's a failure too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to explain why we come back here

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<v Speaker 2>on the Stone Zone.

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<v Speaker 1>The Stone Zone Entertaining and informative on the Red Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Jake Novack in for Roger Stone Live here

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<v Speaker 2>eight fifty two PM. I got my AMM PM mixed

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<v Speaker 2>up before signed that I'm working very hard, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know it is PM. It's dark, it's dark outside, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jake Novak very happy to fill in for Roger Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>He often gives me this chance and I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about some losers because I've already

580
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<v Speaker 2>been talking about the loser message that our vice president

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<v Speaker 2>put out there all by himself, voluntarily. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. Someone gave him some bad advice. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately it's his responsibility. I'm talking about that, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not alone. We have some other losers, very much in

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<v Speaker 2>the public eye in America, who promote loser messages or

586
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<v Speaker 2>say one thing and do other things to undermine what

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<v Speaker 2>they supposedly are for. One of them is Gavin Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>the governor of California, only a few more months left

589
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<v Speaker 2>in his term, by the way, and here he is

590
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<v Speaker 2>bemoaning the fact that Elon Musk is a trillionaire. His

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<v Speaker 2>enemy Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>Listened, well, I look, ten percent of people own two

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<v Speaker 3>thirds of wealth in this nation. That's same ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>on ninety three percent of the stock market. Thirty year

595
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<v Speaker 3>old today is doing worse than his or her parents

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time in US history. If that's not

597
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<v Speaker 3>a five alarm fire, I don't know what the hell is.

598
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<v Speaker 3>We were sitting there, some of us at least, celebrating

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<v Speaker 3>the best of Roman republic Greek democracy on July fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the vision of our founding fathers co equal

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<v Speaker 3>branches of government. Co equal branch is a government, popular sovereignty, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule of law.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm reminded thinking about the Greeks, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy around fifty a d. Two thousand years ago warning

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<v Speaker 3>the Athenians, Plutarch. He said, the imbalance, the imbalance between

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<v Speaker 3>the rich and the poor is the oldest and most

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<v Speaker 3>fatal ailment of all republics. Think about that two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gaven a couple of things, and again he kicked

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<v Speaker 2>this complaint about the wealth growth, growth of wealth and

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<v Speaker 2>a small number of people. That's always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the case. There's always going to be people who achieve

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<v Speaker 2>and in some cases some of them will get some luck.

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<v Speaker 2>But luck luck is very much, very much of a rated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a professor at Cornell named Professor Robert Frank who

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<v Speaker 2>whose entire career is based on how everything is luck.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a student in his class, I would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then why are you give him out grades? I demand

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<v Speaker 2>an A or just roll the dice. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>whole class is a first Why would you have a

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<v Speaker 2>class where you have to work and study and perform

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<v Speaker 2>on a test if all you're learning is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>just luck. But anyway, he's been moaning the fact about

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk. Actually, if you know your statistics, we are

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<v Speaker 2>creating more millionaires and billionaires in this country every day

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<v Speaker 2>than we ever have. The problem with thirty year olds

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<v Speaker 2>not being in such a great state has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more to do with mental health than economics. Most thirty

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<v Speaker 2>year olds I meet today are like the twenty year

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<v Speaker 2>olds of forty years ago or eighteen year olds. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about Gavin Newsom is he's a loser because

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<v Speaker 2>he also just signed a bill in the same day

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<v Speaker 2>that he's giving this little speech. Two days ago, he

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<v Speaker 2>signed a bill to create special rebates in California only.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember we got rid of the rebates for EV buyers

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<v Speaker 2>nationally in September of last year. But in California now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a first time EV buy you get a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five hundred dollars rebate. You know who sells the

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<v Speaker 2>two most popular evs in this country, Elon Musk. So

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<v Speaker 2>the guy getting up there complaining about how Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>is too rich just signed to bill to make him richer?

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<v Speaker 2>Will it make him a lot richer? Is Tesla going

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<v Speaker 2>to get the bulk of this benefit? That doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more money to TESTA, I promise you. And TESTA

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<v Speaker 2>is the reason why, the biggest reason why Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>is a trillionaire. Test the stock. Okay, what a dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Another dope is Luigi Mangione. And I know they've tried

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<v Speaker 2>to make into this great hero. And we can talk specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and we should mostly talk about how the killing of

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<v Speaker 2>an innocent, unarmed person on the street is never right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe you have a criminal, then you know

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<v Speaker 2>you don't just kill them unless they're in the act

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<v Speaker 2>of killing someone. And his murder of Brian Thompson on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalk of New York at the end of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four is not excusable under any means. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hate the medical insurance companies. I really don't like them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the business model. It makes no sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me other than for them it does. It's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, LUIGIMANNGIONI wasn't trying to hurt the

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<v Speaker 2>earnings balance sheet of United Healthcare on a quarterly basis,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was trying to bring down the company. He

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to bring down the industry. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>for eight months after the killing of Brian Thompson, Luigimanngoni

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<v Speaker 2>murdering him. And yes, I believe he murdered him. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he hasn't been convicted yet. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who actually had the names of his victims on the

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<v Speaker 2>shell casings. I'm gonna say he's guilty of this crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know a court of law hasn't convicted him yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But again I'm going to say, this is my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's a very well backed up opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>So the eight months after the killing, United Healthcare shares

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<v Speaker 2>did have a problem. They were going down. I'm pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, ever, since they reached that bottoming out

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<v Speaker 2>period in August of twenty twenty five, they've been on

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<v Speaker 2>a tear and just today United Healthcare announced very strong

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<v Speaker 2>earnings for the last quarter. They have gained well over

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<v Speaker 2>half of the losses that they incurred over that eight

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<v Speaker 2>month period. It's up forty United Healthcare shares are up

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<v Speaker 2>forty five percent from where they were a year ago. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>you failed. And as I said at the time of

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<v Speaker 2>the killing, if luigiman Gioni really wanted to do something

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<v Speaker 2>to help people, killing wasn't the right way. Apparently he

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<v Speaker 2>was a brilliant guy, and there is a very often

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<v Speaker 2>a thin line between brilliance and insanity. Then make an

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<v Speaker 2>app where people can learn healthcare tips. Luigi, do what

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do, but don't shoot someone. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you failed. This has been The Stone Zone. I'm Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Novak and for Roger Stone tonight, have a great rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your evening.

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<v Speaker 2>To wonder what the heck is going on here