WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.760 You say, but really how you say it is a 2 00:00:01.879 --> 00:00:04.280 huge factor in broadcasting. I think everybody knows that. But 3 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.120 because my voice is not well, I need I need 4 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.720 to maintain as best I can because we still got 5 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:12.359 two hours to go and a lot to get into. 6 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.480 So it is Coffee and Company. We are feel about 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.480 the Ortons, And if you want to keep this great 8 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:19.519 experience going, you can listen live on the iHeart Radio. 9 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:22.320 I've also listened live at seven ninety Louisville dot Com. 10 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.960 The other voice that is in great shape that you 11 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:26.839 hear every day, but you may hear it a little 12 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:29.000 more than you usually do is Austin Montgomery. That's me 13 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:33.759 because you know, we've we've really recovered since that first 14 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.119 segment where I just completely like I blew out a 15 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.840 tire or something. I mean, I just couldn't. I was 16 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:40.960 I was given a take, I was laying it out, 17 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.000 I was setting it up like I wanted to, and 18 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:44.799 then the voice was just gone. 19 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.359 Yeah, you hit a pothole. We had to get the 20 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:49.039 jack out and unscrew the lug. No, that's right, let's 21 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.000 put the doughnut back on. But hey, listen, I'm ready 22 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:53.560 to go at any time today. I got the jump on. 23 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.359 I got to jump in with the boys Tony and 24 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.759 Dwight earlier, Oh hell ya in their station. Got to 25 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.280 talk to them for about five minutes, And that always 26 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:01.600 gives me a fun boost of confidence. 27 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.159 I love that show and those two you talk about. 28 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:05.719 Like those two sons of guns. 29 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.439 Yeah, yeah, you could say that. 30 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.560 It's just the way that they're so free flowing on 31 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.319 that show is just ridiculous. I feel like they're like 32 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:18.239 like that their whole aspect of like their everyday lives, 33 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.280 and it's just funny to watch those two work together 34 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.159 because they just bounce off each other so well. 35 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.719 Funny Tony not as much Tony, just because I've known 36 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.439 Tony longer than I'm known Dwight, and I've I've worked 37 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:33.359 with Tony for a long time. We've done a lot 38 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.599 of radio together. Dwight not as much. But obviously I 39 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:37.799 go on with them every now and then. And when 40 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.959 Dwight made the move to not, you know, not just 41 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.040 be both sales and on air now he's just on air, 42 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:45.680 that's when I, you know, I was around him a 43 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.239 little bit more. But I have people that have asked 44 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.400 me this about both these guys. But more so Dwight 45 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:53.359 in recent years, which is is that guy the same 46 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.040 on And I'm like, oh, absolutely, every like I think 47 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:01.519 Dwight is the same guy on social media, on the radio, 48 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.760 off the radio, at you know, the local bear knows. 49 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.159 I mean, he's he's he's authentic and he's consistent. 50 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.319 So yeah, he's he's he's a good vibe, he's a 51 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:11.960 he's a hoot. 52 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.319 That's he's the definition of it. I think, be honest 53 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.199 with you and uh love those guys, and I mean, 54 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.240 look at you. You've got you've got those you were 55 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.120 on with those guys this morning and now you're now 56 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:24.319 you're on at the top it off with aren't we 57 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:27.639 living the dream? We're living the dream? Good stuff? All right? 58 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.439 So last night I was talking about Kansas getting blown 59 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.360 out last night, and what I wanted to do is 60 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.759 go back and look at the programs this year in 61 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.599 college basketball. But heading into the season, we're believed to 62 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.560 have done better than everybody else when it comes to 63 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.360 the transfer portal, and Kansas is certainly one of them. Kansas, 64 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:51.520 I think deservedly so, was viewed as the number one 65 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.400 team in the country, but just about everybody because not 66 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:58.199 only what they brought back, but what they brought in 67 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.960 via the portal. I mean, if you go and there's different, 68 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:06.719 there's different I guess outlets that have their rankings as 69 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.520 far as which classes they think are the best and whatnot, 70 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.680 and there's different ways to do it, you know. To me, 71 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:17.120 I think it's the one I wish we would have 72 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.960 instead of recruiting rank and we'll never do this. But 73 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.439 to me, just as a college basketball fan myself, and 74 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.039 I'm sure everybody's different, I wish there was more of 75 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.879 a all right, here's the best off season you know, 76 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.240 off season roster management rankings. That doesn't roll off the 77 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.719 tongue by any means, but just how did you do 78 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.360 as far as keeping guys that everybody knows you wanted 79 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:44.120 to keep, and guys you brought in that were freshmen 80 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:45.800 that could help you, and then of course guys in 81 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:47.840 the portal. I don't think it's that difficult to look 82 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.680 at those three components and put together a top twenty 83 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.039 five in the off season. That doesn't necessarily mean you're 84 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.919 saying these are the top twenty five teams in the country. 85 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:59.560 It's just that these are the teams that you know, 86 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.759 really did a great job of navigating this new world 87 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.319 of Okay, we got to keep the guys who want 88 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.199 to keep. We want to make sure we still bring 89 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.560 in some young talent from the freshman class. But also 90 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.759 there's a lot of guys in the portal, and we 91 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.439 got the good ones. So anyways, the transfer portal rankings 92 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.920 from twenty four to seven sports. Here are the top five. 93 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:25.160 In fact, i'll give you let me see here, I'll 94 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:30.360 give you the and wow, I don't remember Louisville being 95 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.639 as far down the list as they were. They're at 96 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.439 twenty seven, and I remember there being a few different 97 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.680 ways you could look at Louisville's class, right, I mean, 98 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:45.000 Chucky wasn't the best guard on Wisconsin therefore to have 99 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.399 expected him, well, I think he was, but he didn't 100 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.879 have the best stats, and he wasn't necessarily I mean, 101 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:51.759 Chuck's one of the best players in the country right now, 102 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.319 but he didn't have the best numbers of the two 103 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.879 guards that transferred ot to of Wisconsin, him and aj Stores. 104 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.519 Which anyways, we'll get back to Louisville in a second, 105 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:04.959 but I'll just give you the top five here. Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, 106 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:10.160 Saint John's in Kentucky, rounding out the top ten West 107 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:15.839 Virginia number six, Alabama number seven, Washington number eight, UCLA 108 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.920 number nine, in Michigan number ten. So this is not 109 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.120 going to be a way. Arkansas was the number one 110 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:27.399 class and they're clearly underachieving because they're barely on the bubble. 111 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.439 Like I mean, you could say that, but I'm not 112 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.040 going to say, Well, these coaches have the best classes 113 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:35.800 and their teams aren't living up to it, so they 114 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:37.800 must think. But I'm just bringing it up as a 115 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:42.360 reminder that make getting the talent is important and that's 116 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:44.720 not easy to do either because it's competitive, right. You've 117 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.680 got to be able to pay these guys what others 118 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:47.759 are going to be able to pay them, and you 119 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.120 got to be able to sell them on the role 120 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.360 that they can play within your system. And look, guys 121 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.360 in the portal, they got it made. It's a quick, 122 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.079 fast moving thing. But once they've proven that they're good 123 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:02.800 college players, they're they're gonna I mean, there are certain 124 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.360 guys out there that I don't want to say they 125 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.959 can pick wherever they want to go, but I would 126 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.680 imagine the top twenty players overall in the portal every year. 127 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.600 For the most part, can probably pick wherever they want 128 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.639 to go. Now, where they want to go may not 129 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.319 be the school that will will be willing to pay 130 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.199 them a huge amount of money. And that's going to 131 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.079 matter because again, some of these guys that are sticking 132 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.920 around in college, it's because of money only, right, That's 133 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:33.120 the reason they're still in college is because they know 134 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.240 they could still make more money playing maybe two more 135 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.639 years of college hoops then they'll ever make playing professionally. 136 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.759 Just because they're not NBA guys, they're more so gonna 137 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:42.439 be and there's some wrong playing overseas, but you're not 138 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:44.399 gonna make the money. Some of these guys are gonna make. 139 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:50.040 Like for example, Great Osibor, he ended up at Washington 140 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.279 followed his coach Danny Sprinkle. Again, if your name is 141 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.000 Danny Sprinkle, you're either going to do one of two things. 142 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.560 You're gonna be a coach, You're gonna be a mail stripper. 143 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.639 There's no way around it. Danny Sprinkle's a male stripper name. 144 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:04.759 He's lucky he's a really good coach because well, he's 145 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:06.639 not doing great this year, but did great at Utah State. 146 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.519 I can't mention Danny Sprinkle on a talk show and 147 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.399 not immediately think that guy's in the wrong business. I mean, 148 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:18.879 Danny Sprinkle, he's either a mattress actor, or he's or 149 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.920 he's a stripper or I guess coaching, which we know 150 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:24.920 exactly what Danny Sprinkle is going to be doing if 151 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.360 coaching doesn't work out. But anyways, you think great Ousinber 152 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.720 wanted to go to Washington, maybe, but clearly the money. 153 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.399 And I'm look, I'm not saying he would have picked 154 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.439 Louisville by any means. Louisville clearly was a school that 155 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.519 recruited him. But these guys, they may know I could 156 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.879 go to Duke Kansas, Kentucky. But if there's a school 157 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:43.839 willing to triple what these other schools are going to 158 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.480 pay because they don't need me as much, then they're 159 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.120 going to probably pick the school where they can make 160 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.720 life changing money. So I really want to emphasize that 161 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.759 with the portal, you don't I mean, I don't know 162 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.600 how a coach would know until they get into the 163 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.639 season if the pieces they brought in are gonna work 164 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:04.480 well together, not only when it comes to just basketball, 165 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.079 but as individuals like that matters. That's one thing that 166 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.800 has really stood out about the coaches that were hired 167 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.199 at Louisville and Kentucky, Like Pat, you can tell there 168 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:18.879 is absolutely a big time culture within the program. And 169 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.160 you know, it sounds corny to some, but it's evident, 170 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.480 and I know I'm loving it. I can't get enough 171 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.120 of it. But again, I'm I'm I'm a fan. I'm 172 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.600 different than just the average you know, person watching this 173 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.360 team on television every every so often. But like to 174 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.120 hear that they threw like a surprise baby sh shower 175 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.159 diaper shower for Terrence Edwards who had a son, Like 176 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.759 that's not surprising at all, because these guys seem like, 177 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.919 I mean, they're family and that's what you want, and 178 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.519 that's that's not that uncommon. But I want you to 179 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:56.000 consider how difficult Maybe maybe difficult the wrong way to 180 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.799 describe it, because when I say it would be difficult 181 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.039 to expect all these guys to get along like this 182 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.679 and really become a family so quickly, it makes it 183 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.000 sound like it's difficult because they have egos and that 184 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.240 they're that you know that they're not easy to get 185 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.399 along with them, They're not down to earth, and I 186 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.840 don't know that at all. They all seem like good 187 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.480 human beings. I don't know them on a personal level, 188 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:21.799 but like you would think, and by the way, we 189 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:23.840 we wouldn't think this because we know this is all 190 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:25.679 brand new. We know that we didn't even know who 191 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.200 a lot of these guys were a year ago, and 192 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:31.159 now they're helping us. Heal right, the revival is going 193 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:32.879 on as we speak, and it's been awesome to see. 194 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:34.600 We're gonna we're gonna remember this team, I think for 195 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:36.559 a really long time. I mean that, regardless of what 196 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.519 happens the rest of the way, I think we're gonna 197 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:40.600 remember these guys for a very long time. And if 198 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.320 you are just now joining us, I'm not about to cry. 199 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:44.039 I know it sounds like it it's my voice. It 200 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.919 is just not it's not. 201 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.240 Well, maybe maybe it's a little bit of both, but. 202 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.320 I think your voice has actually been getting better in 203 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:51.120 this in this hour. 204 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.399 I know. Yeah, I'm been chugging some water, so it's right, 205 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.919 And yes, work worked well. So anyways, if you just 206 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:03.600 randomly without any information about Louisville basketball, Let's say you 207 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.320 moved here from Germany and you love college hoops and 208 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.600 Louisll's a team you've really enjoyed watching, but you didn't 209 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.200 know the history, meaning like how it all came. You 210 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.080 didn't maybe you didn't know the background. You didn't know 211 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:19.080 that Pat Kelsey's in his first year. You didn't know 212 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:20.440 that this is a brand new team, and you're just 213 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.720 watching them play and you're seeing how well they play together, 214 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.360 You're seeing how selfless they are. You would never guess 215 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:32.279 that it's all brand new. So I just think seeing 216 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:36.720 Kelsey's ability to do that early on, it makes me 217 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:40.159 feel as if once again Louisvill's found themselves a coach 218 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.960 that I think really has some components to his style 219 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.879 and really his character and his personality, his brand, if 220 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.320 you will, that are going to be really important in 221 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.720 this new world, because that's what everybody's saying about Kansas. 222 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.200 They put together, I mean, they brought back Dwan Harris 223 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.200 and Hunter Dickinson, and then in the portal they added 224 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:06.720 guys like Rylan Griffin from Alabama, Shaquille Moore from Mississippi State, 225 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.080 Zeke Mayo who was a big time transfer from I 226 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:14.399 think it was South Dakota State, and then also aj 227 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:18.000 Store was their big addition. He was Wisconsin's leading scorer 228 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.360 last year. He was Chucky Hepburns backcourt made at Wisconsin, 229 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.480 and he's the guy everybody wanted. He was a guy 230 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:29.120 that in fact was rated as one of the number 231 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.759 one play Yeah, he was the number four overall player 232 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.440 in the portal. He doesn't start for them, and he 233 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.000 barely plays. In fact, he was in the game last 234 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:42.120 night with the walk Ons whenever they were down you know, forty, 235 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.320 not exaggerating, they were down forty. They lost ninety one 236 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:47.559 to fifty seven last night. And AJ Stoer this year, 237 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:51.960 he's averaging six points per game and playing sixteen minutes 238 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:55.279 per game as the number four player in the portal. 239 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:57.639 And you know what, he's probably not dealing with that 240 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.759 very well because he was a made man at Wisconsin. 241 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.679 Dude averaged I mean, I think he was one of 242 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:04.799 the leading scorers in the Big Ten last year. So 243 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:06.440 like not to say he's a bad guy. And this 244 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:08.039 isn't like a hey, we knew what we were doing. 245 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.840 We took Chucky hepburn and they took AJ Store and 246 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:12.840 it worked out for us. Clearly that is what happened, 247 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.039 did work out better for Louisville. But I mean, like, 248 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.000 I just think the ability to know if a guy 249 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.039 would be able to deal with taking a lighter role 250 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.360 here and there, or just flat out being humbled and realizing, yeah, 251 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:31.159 I could start at Wisconsin and score eighteen a game, 252 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.559 which he did last year, but at Kansas, I can't 253 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:35.960 really do that, and you know, how you handle that 254 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.720 is important to the team. So I'm sure they've got 255 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.080 guys that transferred in that aren't having the kind of 256 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:44.639 year that they wanted. And you got guys that have 257 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.759 been there a little while now that probably are thinking, hey, 258 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.320 this is my team. You came in, you got to 259 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:51.559 adjust to me, and it's just a mess. I mean, 260 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:55.639 Bill self all but essentially confirmed last night that these 261 00:12:55.679 --> 00:13:00.039 guys don't like each other. And I just think be 262 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.559 able to to be being able to know if your 263 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.879 guys are going to be able to gel is almost impossible. 264 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:11.240 But being able to lead and run your program and 265 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.600 have them buy in because they believe in you and 266 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:18.080 because they're buying into what you're doing like that. That's 267 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.000 easier said than done. But I think that's where Pat 268 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.080 Kelsey can really really excel. Among many other reasons why 269 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:25.879 I think he can be a great coach here long term. 270 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:29.080 Same thing with Mark Pope. I mean Mark Pope not 271 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:31.080 only I think went out and found guys that fit 272 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.279 what he wants to do as a coach as far 273 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:34.799 as his style of play, and he went out and 274 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:38.000 got some pretty good players too. But I think you 275 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:39.960 can see these guys are I mean, they're they're they're 276 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.360 a pretty close team, right. You got Jackson Robinson and 277 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.639 Lamon Butler hurt, but they're they're the biggest cheerleaders for 278 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.840 their teammates when they're not playing, and that that that's 279 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:50.000 one of those things where I kind of feel like 280 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.000 I'm giving guys credit for like what you're supposed to do, 281 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.279 but man, it's not happening everywhere. Right. That's always the 282 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.039 kicker when you find yourself giving some you find yourself 283 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.399 praise someone for doing something that really they're supposed to do. 284 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.000 It shouldn't be something you get extra praise for. But 285 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.759 it happens because you realize it's not as it's not 286 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:12.279 as it's not happening in a lot of places. I 287 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.799 mean sports, there's a lot of ego involved there. That's 288 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:19.679 just that's the human element of sports. So Arkansas, I 289 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:22.639 think Cal honestly is not built for the portal. I 290 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.559 think his best teams are going to be teams that 291 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.279 are led by a star freshman, and you've got to 292 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.440 have really, really good ones in order to be you know, 293 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:36.279 like cal can succeed with a star studded freshman class 294 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.440 that's as good as advertised and a guy like the 295 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:41.919 Arrow that sticks around for a while like that, that's 296 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.559 where cal Can really shine. But with guys playing as 297 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.039 long as they do now, you're gonna have it much 298 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.879 tougher time being elite if the if the core to 299 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.159 your team is elite freshman, it's just I mean, look 300 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.519 at Ruggers Indiana. Mike Woodson built a phenomenal team. He 301 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.320 can't he can't make it all work together. He's not relatable. 302 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:02.240 He I mean, I think these guys respect him, but 303 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.600 like they're not buying in. Look at Indiana, They're one 304 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.279 of the most disappointing teams in college basketball. We talked 305 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:10.519 about Kansas Rick Patino. He's doing a phenomenal job, which 306 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.320 again is I think speaks to why Rick is the 307 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.279 best college basketball coach of all time because he's won 308 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.320 in every way and now he's doing it in a 309 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:27.960 New World, and he's succeeding. I mean Louisville, Kentucky, Saint John's. 310 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.240 I'd even throw West Virginia in there. They struggled because 311 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.559 they're best player. The coach's son, Devrees. He got hurt 312 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.519 and hasn't played much at all this year. But they're 313 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.799 doing better this year than I think most expected, and 314 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:42.399 they had a good portal class. And again I think 315 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:46.159 it's because, by the way, Debree has a similar background 316 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.919 to Pat Kelsey, a mid major guy, younger, relatable, not 317 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.279 super young, but relatable, and you know, his ego didn't 318 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.279 get him the job at West Virginia, so he knows like, look, 319 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:57.600 I got to figure out how to make this work 320 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:59.759 if it leads to me having to be more of, 321 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:03.360 you know, a relatable coach than a drill sergeant, and 322 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.159 that's what I'll do. You got to be able to adapt. 323 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.639 And I think coaches that if not, they are still 324 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:09.960 hungry that have yet to reach like a final four 325 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.399 or a deep tournament run, they're more humble and more 326 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.679 willing to adapt because again they still want to make 327 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:18.159 it and they know if they're going to do it 328 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.240 in this new world, you've got to be able to adapt. 329 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.519 You got to be able to mix it up. All right, 330 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.120 quick break, We'll come back on the other side. Keep 331 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.440 this thing rolling along. It's coffee and company, and we 332 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.759 are fueled by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven 333 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:29.159 to ninety. 334 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.080 Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 335 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.480 Sports Talk seven nine day. 336 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.960 That's right, it's coffee and company fueled about what is this? 337 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.120 Took a little break there during the commercial break, you know, 338 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.879 from speaking, and then we come back and now the 339 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.120 voice is sounding different now than it has at any point. 340 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.200 You had a squeaky toy. 341 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.720 Yeah, like I'm going through puberty or something. I remember 342 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.159 those days me too, many many many many years ago. 343 00:16:58.600 --> 00:16:59.759 That wasn't that long ago. 344 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.120 I mean, in fact, I was thinking about that the 345 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.400 other day, only because you know, my son's getting older 346 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:07.799 and he's got a long way to go. He's four. 347 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:14.240 But I don't remember, really I remember, and I don't want. 348 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.519 I don't think we're going like in a bad place here, 349 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.240 because it's part of life and we're not going to 350 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.799 be too you know, graphic or detailed about it. But 351 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.200 I remember one of the few things that really is 352 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.440 a sign of that happening as a young boy. One 353 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:30.240 of those things happened when I was at a basketball 354 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.640 camp and it was really rough. Oh but I don't 355 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.160 remember what age, Like I could have been eight, I 356 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.640 could have been twelve. I really don't know what happened. 357 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.359 I'll tell you later, all right, we'll talk about it later, 358 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.400 all right, because there may be there may be younger 359 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.640 kids listening now, and I don't want to scare them, sure, 360 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:47.680 you know, but it's going to happen. And you know, 361 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.200 And by the way, I also learned just with growing 362 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:53.440 up and being a kid, Like everybody's different too, you 363 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.480 know what I mean. Like it happens for some kids 364 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.920 at a certain age, and it'll be a year or 365 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.599 two earlier, a year or two later for others. You really, 366 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:04.559 you really never know. But puberty happened for me long ago. 367 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:09.359 It's just my voice is is not great. But I 368 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.920 don't know if I'm just believing in the uh, the 369 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:13.960 confidence that you gave me. But I think you're right. 370 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.400 I think I need to keep drinking water. I was 371 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:18.160 I was just doing the lozenge, But I think the 372 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.000 lozenge mixed with the water is good for us as 373 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:24.519 far as keeping this thing at least able to perform. 374 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:28.160 This boy, Water cures like ninety percent of anything. 375 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.839 And that's that's so true. And I don't know and 376 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.720 I know that, but yet, my dumb ass. Oftentimes, if 377 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:36.720 I'm not feeling great, if I'm feeling a little tired, 378 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.960 feeling a little weak, it's likely because I'm dehydrated, and 379 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.960 I just don't and just you chucks in. Actually, chugging 380 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.119 water won't give you the instant, like the instant you know, 381 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.079 feeling of no longer being dehydrated. It'll in fact, it 382 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:54.720 doesn't work against you, but it you know, you pee 383 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:56.920 it out pretty quick and it doesn't actually speed. But like, 384 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:59.920 you know, gradually drinking a couple of bottles of water 385 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.039 over time instead of just I mean chugging them is 386 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.480 I mean, you can do that too if you want. 387 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.279 But yeah, anytime I'm not feeling great and I'm feeling 388 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:12.799 like something and I'm tired, like my skin is blotchy, 389 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.680 I'm just like, you know what, you're probably just dehydrated. 390 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:17.519 To get some water. Man, mix a water in, bro. 391 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.480 That's always what my dad would say if there was 392 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.640 some sort of ailment that I was going through, Like 393 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.559 you said, dry skin head hurts, my stomach hurts. My 394 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.480 dad would always say, do you drink any water? 395 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.880 Eh? Yeah, Look Dad's no, man, Dad's no. 396 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.559 My armpits are a little bit more smellier than usual. 397 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:35.759 How much water have you drinking? 398 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.480 Look the old, look the older, the ogs. They know 399 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.279 hydration is key in a lot of aspects of life. 400 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.160 So like you can never you can never remind yourself 401 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.440