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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's a natural control for cancer. And

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<v Speaker 1>he told me the story. All right, this kid's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in the details. He had a dog that had cancer

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<v Speaker 1>and he was about to put the dog down because

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<v Speaker 1>he tried chemotherapy and everything else on the dog that

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors do and it wasn't working. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>dog was getting sicker. And when he heard about he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to use I decided to use this substance

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<v Speaker 1>on the dog, and he said, blow me down. The

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<v Speaker 1>dog got well real fast. I couldn't believe it. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never seen that happen before. And then the next part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story is that he said his nurse came

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<v Speaker 1>to him, his head nurse, whose husband had terminal cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, doctor John, you know my husband is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to last very much longer. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the dog. Would you please do that

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<v Speaker 1>for my husband?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, sure, I'd be glad to, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell anybody because it's not approved, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>for human use. And he tried it on her husband

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<v Speaker 1>and he got well, this is how it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>And so John said, I started using it very very

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<v Speaker 1>cautiously and very low dosages and very suspiciously making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I was not risking anybody's life, using it only

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<v Speaker 1>on people who really had terminal cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us now is g Edward Griffin, a real giant

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<v Speaker 3>in the liberty movement. He's done so many monumental works.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course everybody knows Creature from Jackal Island, but we

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<v Speaker 3>want also talked to him today about his book A

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<v Speaker 3>World Without Cancer, because I think that's a message that

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<v Speaker 3>is people are ready to hear after what we've been

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<v Speaker 3>through for the last four years. But we've now seen

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<v Speaker 3>I think, really a convergence in medical, financial, and political

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<v Speaker 3>because it's being swallowed up by the political stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>great to have Joe Griffin on. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, well, it is my pleasure. Thanks for inviting me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to talk also about the Red Pill

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<v Speaker 3>Expo that's going to be coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks as well, so I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to talk about that and what's happening with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But your work is very well known by a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and we're going to try to get into

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you know, the medical aspect of this is maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not as well known as a federal reserve. But we

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<v Speaker 3>do want to talk about the financial stuff. That's very

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<v Speaker 3>important right now. But I think it'd be good for

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<v Speaker 3>us to talk about your biography. How did you get

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<v Speaker 3>into doing documentaries and books and especially in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>going against the grain of conventional wisdom. Tell us a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit about your background.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a long background, of course, considering my age,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably not very interesting. It's rather boring. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're correct. We've covered some ground and made some amazing

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<v Speaker 1>touch points along the way. I think it's only because

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<v Speaker 1>we've been at it for so long. My life has

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty much normal in the sense by normal, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>almost afraid or embarrassed to say normal, because unfortunately what

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<v Speaker 1>is normal out there in the world today is not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly attractive.

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<v Speaker 3>An abnormal world. A normal person in an abnormal world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean it's not unusual. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>should say in that I would start out in one

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<v Speaker 1>direction and be confronted by some impossible barrier or setback

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<v Speaker 1>or tragedy, and it would be life changing for me

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<v Speaker 1>and very very uncomfortable, very painful, very very frightening. But

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, as the time goes by. I find out

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the best thing that ever happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because it forced me to do a right turn or

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<v Speaker 1>change my direction substantially. And even though it was painful

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to abandon my original plans and expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>I found out that it was a better direction than

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<v Speaker 1>the one I was on originally. And this my life,

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<v Speaker 1>is full of that. And some of those those tragedies

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<v Speaker 1>along the way were very serious illnesses too. I was

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<v Speaker 1>still very young, in my early thirties, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a wife and a couple of kids to support, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a collapse, and I had two doctors tell

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<v Speaker 1>me I had multiple sclerosis. Not that was I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really know for sure what that was. I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was bad, but when I looked it up in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the encyclopedia, I decided, oh, man, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way to go out the door. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was dying, of course, but it was a misdiagnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>I had exhausted myself. I had it rather. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was carrying the world on my shoulders. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had to save the world all by myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was not getting a lot of sleep. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a young guy. Of course, I was doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of traveling, making presentations, training sessions, all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. So I would go from one town to

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<v Speaker 1>the next and drive a good portion of the day

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<v Speaker 1>to get there, get there and be taken out to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and then put on an evening presentation and then

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<v Speaker 1>meeted somebody's house afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>And what kind of presentations were you doing? Was this political?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, these were these were recruiting, These were recruiting meetings

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<v Speaker 1>I was at that time. I was a coordinator for

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<v Speaker 1>the John Birch Society. I know that scares a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that think that's a wacko organization, but not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well good anyway, they're very to me. They're very, very

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<v Speaker 1>calm and very not wacko at all. Of course they

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<v Speaker 1>have some wackos in there, but the percentage of wackos

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<v Speaker 1>and the brid Society, I thought was smaller than the

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<v Speaker 1>percentage outside of the brit Society everywhere. Yeah, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the safest place to be. But anyway, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing. And so I was drinking. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would want to buy me some wine and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>drink wine and talk about life and the world events

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And then I get to bed late

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<v Speaker 1>at night or early in the morning, get up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and drive and do that over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>I came back and I was planning some trees in

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<v Speaker 1>my front yard and I just froze up. I became paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 1>And take a long story short, I was I had

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<v Speaker 1>just exhausted my physical strength, malnutrition, toxic elements in my body,

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<v Speaker 1>not enough sleep, and a bad metal attitude, always filled

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<v Speaker 1>with anxiety, and you know, all the bad things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realized. I didn't think I had to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that because I was young, right, Young people don't

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<v Speaker 1>get sick, So anyway, they diagnosed it as multiple sclerosis.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out not to be that. Once I got

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<v Speaker 1>off of my routine and started to find out what

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<v Speaker 1>this world was all about in terms of nutrition and

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<v Speaker 1>rest and avoiding toxic things in your body and in

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<v Speaker 1>your environment and so forth, I recovered rather rapidly, So

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, it was very good because I learned how

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<v Speaker 1>to live, and I probably wouldn't be alive today if

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't learned that lesson early in my life. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I was really pretty well stuck in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know I could write. I had gone

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<v Speaker 1>to school, I had learned, I'd learned about communications. I

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<v Speaker 1>would stage plays. I was an actor, a little child actor.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine anything worse than that. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of early day.

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<v Speaker 3>I can imagine it being a lot worse today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. It was pretty bad. I was

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<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of that. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Detroit, and we did radio in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know a lot of shows came out of

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit at the Ford Theater and the Hermit's Cave, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had a Saturday show was the same as Let's Pretend,

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<v Speaker 1>and we covered anyway. I did a lot of radio stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so and I and I went to school and took

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<v Speaker 1>more of the same. Television was just coming online in

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<v Speaker 1>those days, so I was taking courses in television and

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<v Speaker 1>radio communications.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask a question real quick. Your radio I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that was live radio performed. Oh, yeah, that's really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting stuff. I love listening to the live things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. I worked my way through college as

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<v Speaker 1>a radio announcer for w u o M, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the university radio station at the University of Michigan and

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<v Speaker 1>you know all of that. So I was into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I got sick, I thought, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to make a living. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bed for the most part, had to

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<v Speaker 1>practically crawl from one room to the other. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I got this call from a publisher and he said, ed,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand you've been giving speeches on the United Nations

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very well received. Would you like to write

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<v Speaker 1>a book for us on that topic. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>publish a book, and we think you could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, at that time I had never written anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was not my I did not identify as

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<v Speaker 1>an author. I identified as a communicator on television or

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<v Speaker 1>radio or something like that. And my dream was to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Hollywood and become a great Hollywood producer in

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<v Speaker 1>motion pictures. So when this guy called me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you like to write a book? That was

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I felt I was capable or interested

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<v Speaker 1>in doing. But I thought instantly about hawwity. He's offering

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<v Speaker 1>me some money, and here I am in bed. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything else to support my family, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>running out of money. And so I found myself saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, Yeah, sure I could do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in that kind of situation as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>God puts us in a position where you got one

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<v Speaker 3>way out and that's it something that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I just use that as an example. So

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<v Speaker 1>I took it on the commitment, and then I started

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<v Speaker 1>to do my hard research. I had done a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it already, but I knew that in a book

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<v Speaker 1>you had to document everything. It wasn't just you could say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this and I know that. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>research at the last about probably two or three months of

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<v Speaker 1>putting all the documents together, and then the day came

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<v Speaker 1>when it was time to write. And it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like looking at an old movie where you've everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>seen those scenes where the author has to write something

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<v Speaker 1>and he's on a typewriter and he types a few

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<v Speaker 1>lines and he pulls the paper out, crushes it and

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<v Speaker 1>throws it on the floor and that's no good, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this is no good. I went through that in spades.

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<v Speaker 3>All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So I was using a pencil. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>computers in those days, and I couldn't type. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was writing things out and I tear it up and

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out just I couldn't how come I can't write.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't write, Give me a microphone. So then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the point and the end of this. So finally I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to write. Mary had a little lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>I started to write things out, and the first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had this idea, I can't write this

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<v Speaker 1>because how do you how do you approach a topic

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<v Speaker 1>so huge as this was my book on the United Nations,

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<v Speaker 1>my first book. It's called The Fearful Master A second

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<v Speaker 1>look at the United Nations? So I wrote down, how

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<v Speaker 1>How do you write a book? It's like having to

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<v Speaker 1>then I found myself writing, well, you dig and then

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<v Speaker 1>having fun doing it. So I use that as an example.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be here talking to you today if I

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great story. We've had so many people when

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<v Speaker 3>they lost they would face of the decision take the

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<v Speaker 3>many people who had that crisis, It's like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I've trained all my life for this. I

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<v Speaker 3>about that, it's been a wonderful turning point for them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think your life lesson as well as

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of other people. That's a real important life lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, there it is. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody goes through those crises. I think maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>use my skills that I had acquired in communications. So

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to produce some very low budget documentary films

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<v Speaker 1>on important issues. And the first, the first attempt, was

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<v Speaker 1>to write something on a documentary film on money and inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course that led me blankly to the

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<v Speaker 1>topic of the Federal Reserve system. And I'm off and

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<v Speaker 1>hold of. On that one if I had, if I

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<v Speaker 1>and how broad it is, how many things it covers,

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<v Speaker 1>and how profound, profoundly important it is to our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>our liberty, our lifestyle, everything, I would never have tackled

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<v Speaker 1>it because it was far beyond my reach. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>last person in the world to write about things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Well, that makes a question, how did you

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<v Speaker 3>you're working with the before he started writing, and before

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<v Speaker 3>you wrote that book on the UN, you were also

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<v Speaker 3>lecturing about UN and other things like that. How did

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<v Speaker 3>you get into working for the John Bird Society or

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's another story, similar to the one I just mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working for a large corporation. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>and I was, you know, wanted to make my splash.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get a job with some production company,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't happening. And I looked around realistically, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that all these young people there, the guys and gals,

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<v Speaker 1>had talent superior to mine, really, and they were busting

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<v Speaker 1>tables and washing cars, waiting for the big chance in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I began to get a sense of the

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<v Speaker 1>corruption that is in Hollywood and the lifestyle and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the evil things that were there that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like at all. And it became clear that if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't tolerate those things, or if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I got a job in an underwriting department of preparing

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I was doing when I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>that change is that I don't know who it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but somebody handed me or sent me a little blue

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<v Speaker 1>pamphlet called The Truth about the United Nations. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was the title. I thought, the United Nations. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd gone to school, I've been to the university. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew all about the United Nations. It was wonderful. It

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<v Speaker 1>was our last best hope for peace, they told me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was true, and so I was

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<v Speaker 1>means of avoiding war.

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<v Speaker 3>And about what year was that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nineteen sixty, maybe nineteen fifty nine, Probably that

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<v Speaker 1>pamphlet was in nineteen fifty nine. Anyway, So I read

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<v Speaker 1>the pamphlet and I was incensed by it. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. I know better, but it started. The

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<v Speaker 1>things it said were hard for me to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>these people were lying. That's how naive, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>come out of school. How naive can you be to

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<v Speaker 1>who would write books might even be lying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard for us to believe that about other people.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to believe the best of them, and we

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<v Speaker 3>want to think that they're like us, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>so we always overestimate their morals, and we underestimate their technology,

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<v Speaker 1>We certainly do, yeah, And of course we're trained to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I went to the public school system, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was I found out later one of its primary

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<v Speaker 1>I was very highly indignant over this pamphlet written by

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<v Speaker 1>college professor No less, you'd expect he would know better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, one day I went down to the library

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<v Speaker 1>into a library again after I got out of school,

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought that was where you punish people for

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<v Speaker 1>doing bad things. And but any way, I went into

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<v Speaker 1>the International department. I wanted to check out a few

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<v Speaker 1>books on the topic of the United Nations and in

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<v Speaker 1>particular these wars, these peacekeeping operations as they called them,

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<v Speaker 1>and to see if I could learn more about it

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<v Speaker 1>and prove that this college professor had it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. So I checked out a few books, and

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<v Speaker 1>even though they were all written from the friendly perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all friends of the UN. Many of them

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<v Speaker 1>were either employees or former employees, or they had positions

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<v Speaker 1>of some of them were academics and academics, I discovered

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<v Speaker 1>would never dare go against the UN anyway. So I

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<v Speaker 1>read those books and I recognized that they were biased

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<v Speaker 1>and so was That was the beginning of it reading

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<v Speaker 1>their own works, and some of them were quite frank

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<v Speaker 1>by the way I learned about the war and Katanga

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<v Speaker 1>Patrici lu Mumba. The War one Katanga and affric was

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<v Speaker 1>really an eye opener for me. In fact, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>with that section on what happened Katanga. Basically what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Katanga Province of the Congo, and the so called

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<v Speaker 1>colonial powers just left. They there was betrayal I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the highest levels in the government. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was Belgium, and they just withdrew their troops and all

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<v Speaker 1>their law enforcement facilities and just gave the Congo over

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<v Speaker 1>to the communist revolutionaries. And that was hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was an evidence. And so when the troops

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<v Speaker 1>It was economic. It was getting the colonialists out. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the word they use the capitalist the capitalists out

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<v Speaker 1>and get the socialist in power again. So Congo went

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<v Speaker 1>into total chaos. Blood blood all over the place, and

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<v Speaker 1>production stopped, the economy crash, people were starving, people were

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<v Speaker 1>robbing each other. It was total chaos. I fear we're

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<v Speaker 1>in America going to get somewhat like see some of

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<v Speaker 1>that ourselves when we make that step toward total collectivism

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<v Speaker 1>or socialism. Anyway, that's what happened, and so the UN

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<v Speaker 1>got to put put an end to that. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were said, yes, yes, that's what you're for. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>the peacekeepers, right, yes, okay. Well the peacekeepers went in

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<v Speaker 1>and there were multiple provinces in the Congo and they

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<v Speaker 1>were all in total blood drenched chaos except one. The

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<v Speaker 1>one shining exception was Katanga was headed by Moischambai and

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<v Speaker 1>Moischambie had been to some universities in London and had

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<v Speaker 1>come to America, and he understood the principles of free

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise capitalism and he was standing firm and and his

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<v Speaker 1>his province was like it had always been, and chaos

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<v Speaker 1>was all around them. So where did the UN send

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<v Speaker 1>the peacekeepers there there. It didn't it didn't send them

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<v Speaker 1>any place else where the chaos was. They sent them

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<v Speaker 1>where the chaos was not, and they literally overthrew the

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<v Speaker 1>Katanga province and put into chaos also. And well, when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, it documented so clearly, and in many

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<v Speaker 1>uh where they bragged about doing that in their own words.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw that, that changed my life, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a red pill, you might say that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>life the way it really was. And in one book

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<v Speaker 1>by the the I think it was an Irish general

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<v Speaker 1>from Ireland. I can't believe his name anyway, the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Thing book, how wonderful he was in the Congo doing

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<v Speaker 1>all these things on behalf of international cooperation and peace

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And he's time and again said well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when this issue came up, we lied in

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<v Speaker 1>the press conferences as all bureaucrats do, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're reading my book now you know how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. So Connor O'Brien that was his name, General O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized that these people actually boast about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the crimes they commit. And that was my changing

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<v Speaker 1>point right there. And so my first interest was the

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<v Speaker 1>United Nations, and I did some research on it. I

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<v Speaker 1>and then my own independent research and added to it,

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<v Speaker 1>Fearful Master.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Yah, wonderful title as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about from that comes from a quotation attributed

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<v Speaker 1>to George Washington. I could never find an official source

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but everybody seemed to agree that it came

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<v Speaker 1>from him, and he said, government is not Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>if I get this straight. Government is not wisdom. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not benevolence. It is force like fire. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Yeah, whoever wrote that? If Washington? Yeah, they

429
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<v Speaker 3>nailed it. So it's absolutely true. Now, you were with

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<v Speaker 3>the John Bird Society. You were talking about how they

431
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<v Speaker 3>like to paint portray butchers as crazy, and I guess

432
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<v Speaker 3>a big part of that. I think a big part

433
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<v Speaker 3>of that war against the John Birch Society was coming

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<v Speaker 3>from William F. Buckley talk a little bit about that,

435
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<v Speaker 3>or was he the point man publicly or was there

436
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<v Speaker 3>you know, other things that were happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think Buckley was appointment, And oh that's

438
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<v Speaker 1>an interesting observation. Buckley did come out publicly against the

439
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<v Speaker 1>Birch Society, and the militant left left wingers attacked the

440
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<v Speaker 1>Birch Society vehemently. They called it, you know, fascist, Nazis, extremists,

441
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<v Speaker 1>anti Semites, wackos, you know, in any of those things,

442
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<v Speaker 1>and they just kept repeating it and repeating it, and

443
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people believed it because they read about

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<v Speaker 1>it in their newspaper. And of course it was none

445
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<v Speaker 1>of those things. But that didn't make any difference. The

446
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<v Speaker 1>perception is the important thing. But Buckley was not from

447
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<v Speaker 1>the radical left. There were a few people like Buckley

448
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<v Speaker 1>that also jumped on the bandwagon from what people considered

449
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<v Speaker 1>to be the right wing. Of course, we could talk

450
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<v Speaker 1>about the impropriety of thinking there's a difference between right

451
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<v Speaker 1>and left later, but I learned that the hard way too,

452
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<v Speaker 1>that the right wing and the left wing are merely

453
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<v Speaker 1>two two wings on the same ugly bird called collectivism.

454
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<v Speaker 1>That's right, anyway, That was I hadn't learned that yet.

455
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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Buckley was one of those guys who was,

456
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<v Speaker 1>you know, associated with the so called right wing, but

457
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<v Speaker 1>they believed pretty much the same thing, and they were

458
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<v Speaker 1>they would attack any serious challenge to collectivism, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what they believed in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a big establishment. I remember I was thinking

461
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<v Speaker 3>that I was trying to get polar opposite you. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>read National Review and I'd read The Nation when I

463
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<v Speaker 3>was in college. I'd read these and kind of try

464
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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what was going on. I didn't want

465
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<v Speaker 3>to read time in newsweeks. I wanted to get these

466
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<v Speaker 3>opposing views and everything. But then I eventually found out

467
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<v Speaker 3>they were also very much alike in many ways. Was

468
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<v Speaker 3>extreme that I wasn't, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the what's the supposing business business? Yeah, people,

470
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<v Speaker 1>people have to learn that lesson. Yet they still think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as we are living right now through a period

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<v Speaker 1>of great political intensity, they really think that the political

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<v Speaker 1>parties are going to be their salvation. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>question who are you going to vote for?

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<v Speaker 3>And it is the most important election of our lifetime.

476
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<v Speaker 3>You've had a lot of those most important elections of

477
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<v Speaker 3>your lifetime, haven't you.

478
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<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard that every one of them is the

479
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<v Speaker 1>last chance to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right, You're going to be the end of the

481
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<v Speaker 3>world if we don't get this right. Yeah, yeah, we've

482
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<v Speaker 3>heard that so many times. Well, so you start out

483
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<v Speaker 3>with the un and you're working with JBS, and how

484
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<v Speaker 3>did you get over to the Federal Reserve? How did

485
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<v Speaker 3>you move over this?

486
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<v Speaker 1>I decided I had to produce some little documentaries or

487
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<v Speaker 1>documentary films as we call them today. But back in

488
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<v Speaker 1>those days, unless you had big bucks, in which we didn't,

489
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<v Speaker 1>you used film strips, film strip projectors, and it was

490
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<v Speaker 1>a projector where you rule a little roll of thirty

491
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<v Speaker 1>five milimeter film with just still pictures on them one

492
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we had ninety eight pictures or so,

493
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<v Speaker 1>and you click them one time and projects up on

494
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<v Speaker 1>the screen. You play this soundtrack on like an LP

495
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<v Speaker 1>recording on a phonograph machine, and when it's time to

496
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<v Speaker 1>change the picture, there's a beep that comes onto the

497
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<v Speaker 1>sound the operator turns the picture and then narration continues

498
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<v Speaker 1>and then there's it's like a PowerPoint presentation with the beeps.

499
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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what we did in those days. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did, Oh, I don't know nine or ten of them,

501
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<v Speaker 1>and I decided I wanted to do one on inflation

502
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<v Speaker 1>and the money supply. I didn't know much about it,

503
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<v Speaker 1>but I knew that there was something fishy going on

504
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>because everybody was accusing the other guy of being responsible

505
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<v Speaker 1>for inflation. Everybody accused the farmers they were getting too

506
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<v Speaker 1>much for their food, and the farmers that we're starving.

507
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<v Speaker 1>We have to eat their own food to just stay alive,

508
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<v Speaker 1>but we don't make any money. It's the distributors that

509
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<v Speaker 1>take all the money and distributes. It's not us. It's

510
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the truckers and the truckers, it's not us. It's the

511
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<v Speaker 1>grocery stores. It's not us. It's the labor unions and

512
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<v Speaker 1>so forth. And they're all everybody's pointing to somebody else

513
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<v Speaker 1>is the cause. And they were all correct in a

514
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<v Speaker 1>sense that it was not them, but they didn't know

515
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<v Speaker 1>who it was, that hidden element that nobody had looked at,

516
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<v Speaker 1>and so I was curious about that. So I started

517
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<v Speaker 1>to do research on inflation. And of course that leads

518
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<v Speaker 1>directly to the engine of inflation, and that's the Federal

519
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<v Speaker 1>reserve system, because that's the power that creates money out

520
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<v Speaker 1>of debt, and they can just create as much money

521
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<v Speaker 1>as people are willing to borrow into existence, and it's

522
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<v Speaker 1>not their money. They just created out of nothing or

523
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>worse than nothing, ont of debt. So the money supply

524
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<v Speaker 1>expands much faster than goods and services expand, and therefore

525
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<v Speaker 1>the relative prices for those goods and services in terms

526
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<v Speaker 1>of the expanded source of the money goes up. It's

527
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<v Speaker 1>just a very simple formula. A high school kid that

528
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<v Speaker 1>knows anything about math can figure it out. But the

529
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<v Speaker 1>American people still don't understand it pretty much because it's

530
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<v Speaker 1>it's deliberately compounded and made it look very complicated, and

531
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<v Speaker 1>it's not. So I got into that and I created

532
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of banker boxes full of research on it,

533
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<v Speaker 1>and I was ready to go. But then I, hey,

534
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<v Speaker 1>is this topic is getting too big for me? And

535
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<v Speaker 1>meanwhile I had to get on and produce some faster

536
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<v Speaker 1>film strips because I have to put groceries on the table, right.

537
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<v Speaker 1>So I put the banker boxes in my closet for now.

538
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<v Speaker 1>And then one day I got a call from a

539
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<v Speaker 1>little old lady in tennis shoes from Pasadena. We've heard

540
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<v Speaker 1>about those ladies. This was the real one. And she

541
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<v Speaker 1>was a widow and she would obviously had some money

542
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<v Speaker 1>because she lived in a big house in Pasady and

543
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<v Speaker 1>her husband passed away, of course, and had this car

544
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<v Speaker 1>in the garage. Was probably about twelve fifteen years old,

545
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 1>but I think it had like eight hundred miles on

546
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<v Speaker 1>it as read. Well, that's a little side story. But

547
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>she was a wonderful lady. And she had a monthly

548
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>class that she was or meeting in her home on taxes,

549
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<v Speaker 1>and she'd heard that I was giving speeches and showing

550
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<v Speaker 1>film strips and so forth. So she called me and

551
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<v Speaker 1>asked me if I would give a speech to her

552
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<v Speaker 1>group on the weekend on taxes. And I said, well,

553
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much about taxes except that they're too high.

554
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<v Speaker 1>And I'm again, what else can you say that's taxes are?

555
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<v Speaker 1>But I might be able to talk to your group

556
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<v Speaker 1>about a hidden tax. Would that be of interest to you?

557
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And she said a hidden tax? What is that? And

558
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<v Speaker 1>in my supreme wisdom, I said, well, I guess are

559
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just going to have to retain my services so I

560
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<v Speaker 1>can tell you what. And she laughed, she said, you

561
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 1>got me. She said, let's do it, so all right,

562
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<v Speaker 1>I committed to do a presentation on the Federal Reserve

563
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<v Speaker 1>as the hidden tax, and that forced me to open

564
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<v Speaker 1>up my banker boxes and go through the stuff again.

565
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<v Speaker 1>And the second time through, I was amazed at what

566
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I picked up that I didn't catch the first time through.

567
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<v Speaker 1>And I became electrified by how really important this was,

568
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 1>how many areas in our lives it reached that I

569
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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really focused on. So I got excited about it,

570
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<v Speaker 1>and I spent some time putting together an outline. I

571
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<v Speaker 1>gave the presentation and it was very well received. I

572
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<v Speaker 1>was happy to see, and some people approached me afterwards

573
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<v Speaker 1>there and they said that was good. You ought to

574
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<v Speaker 1>put that on the road. Well, you don't do that

575
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<v Speaker 1>to a child actor. He said, I'll put it on

576
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<v Speaker 1>the road, which I did. I ramped it, got it

577
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<v Speaker 1>all well organized, and I called it the Crash Course

578
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 1>on Money. It was a one day seminar. I thought,

579
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I could probably sell tickets to this if

580
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<v Speaker 1>I was smart enough, and so I tried that, and

581
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<v Speaker 1>by golly, it worked, and I was selling tickets and travel.

582
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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it on the road. I was going from

583
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<v Speaker 1>town to town to town. This time, I'm not doing

584
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<v Speaker 1>what I did in the old days. I was taking

585
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<v Speaker 1>care of myself, and so we did that crash course

586
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<v Speaker 1>on money. And then I'm probably giving you more information

587
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>than you want, but this is what happened. At the

588
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<v Speaker 1>end of I think it was probably about the ninth

589
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<v Speaker 1>or tenth seminar. At the end of the meeting, I

590
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<v Speaker 1>was approached by another little old lady and she said,

591
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<v Speaker 1>mister Griffin. And that was always a shock to me

592
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<v Speaker 1>because here she's an elderly lady and I'm still in

593
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<v Speaker 1>my twenties, late twenties or early and in my thirties.

594
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<v Speaker 1>I guess she's calling me mister Griffin. I've always got

595
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<v Speaker 1>to kick out of that, she said. After what I've

596
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 1>learned from you today, she said, I'm really concerned about

597
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>what I should do with what limited resources I have.

598
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>My husband passed away and he left a small stipend

599
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 1>and insurance, and we can get along. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>small investment in a small apartment building or two apartments,

601
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<v Speaker 1>I think, she said. But we're in debt. Should I

602
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<v Speaker 1>get out of debt? Should I take what we have

603
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<v Speaker 1>in assets and put it in gold and silver, or

604
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<v Speaker 1>should I What should I do with my assets, and

605
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<v Speaker 1>it hit me r at that moment what a fraud

606
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<v Speaker 1>I was because I did not know the answer to

607
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<v Speaker 1>that question. I knew what the Federal Reserve was doing.

608
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<v Speaker 1>I knew how they created money out of debt. I

609
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 1>knew the impact it had on the purchasing power of money.

610
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<v Speaker 1>I knew all those things, a lot of them, not all,

611
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<v Speaker 1>but I was a learning still in those days. But

612
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<v Speaker 1>to answer the question of what she should do to

613
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<v Speaker 1>avoid the consequences of that, I had no idea I

614
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<v Speaker 1>was a fraud and she was expecting me to know.

615
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<v Speaker 1>So I stopped doing the webinar the seminars, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I enrolled in the College for Financial Planning, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a course done by a Chicago outfit as an

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<v Speaker 1>educational group. It was like a CFP designation and it

619
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<v Speaker 1>normally takes a couple of years to get it, so

620
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<v Speaker 1>I enrolled in it. It was all by correspondence, and

621
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<v Speaker 1>then you have to go to a physical location and

622
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<v Speaker 1>take the exam that's an all day exam and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did that and I got my CFP designation

624
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<v Speaker 1>as a financial advisor. Not because I wanted to do that.

625
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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to know how to answer this woman's question,

626
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<v Speaker 1>how do you protect your assets under these conditions? So

627
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<v Speaker 1>that's what I did, and then I came out of

628
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that with another realization which I never would have had

629
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 1>had I not been taking that course, and that is

630
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that these people were teaching bunk. I was learning bunk. Now.

631
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 1>They were teaching how to invest in markets that is

632
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in the best interest of the financial planners, not in

633
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the best interest of the investors. And that was really

634
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>what it was all about. And of course they always

635
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 1>said it was for the group, for the best investment

636
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>for the I'll get this straight. Yet it's always best

637
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>for the investor himself. But it was always an investment

638
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that paid a commission to the person that recommended it

639
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 1>or something, and none of it really took into account

640
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that the value of the money was constantly being depreciated.

641
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>They didn't really understand in inflation. Or they said, well,

642
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 1>this has a better interest rate and therefore better for

643
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it to fight inflation, But they never talked about inflation

644
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>itself and what the long term consequences might be over

645
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty or thirty years for you who do everything they recommend,

646
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 1>But still in twenty or thirty years you have zero

647
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>because the dollar is zero and things like that. So

648
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>that's when I decided, hey, somebody ought to write a

649
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>book on this. I looked around and there were books

650
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 1>on the topic, but they were all kind of written

651
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>from the point of view of somebody who wanted to

652
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 1>go into banking, they wanted to be a banker. The

653
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 1>book was there on the Federal Reserve, how to use

654
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve, how it works, and the terminology, and

655
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 1>it was all good, but it didn't The books didn't

656
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>help the average person at all understand the fraud that

657
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 1>was built into the banking system.

658
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>And not even the bank anchors. I had a friend

659
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 3>of ours and I would make remarks from signing time

660
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 3>to time about the Federal Reserve, and and we got

661
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 3>together and he had his brother who was a branch

662
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 3>manager at a bank. And he says, whatever his name was,

663
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Fred or something. I met him once

664
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 3>and that was it. But he said, Fred, you know,

665
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Dave's got a lot of issues with Federal Reserve. He said,

666
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 3>tell him about the Federal Reserve because they just cash checks,

667
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:28.679
<v Speaker 3>they just processed checks. That's that's your that's your understanding

668
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 3>of this. So yeah, it's that was one of the

669
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 3>one of the most clueless people I've ever seen in

670
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 3>terms of finish. I mean, he wasn't even aware of

671
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 3>the impact of you know, uh, setting interest rates even

672
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 3>for example, you know, none of it.

673
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to understand that to make a killing

674
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 1>in the banking that's right, you have to doly just

675
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>know how to cash checks and move the money around.

676
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>That's right, collect interest that's right.

677
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's absolutely So.

678
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how it all started. And so, as I said earlier,

679
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of a boring story because it's the

680
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 1>same thing over and over again, that you'd stumble into

681
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>things that you had no idea where you're headed. And

682
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 1>if I had had any sense, literally any common sense,

683
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>knowing what I know now, I would never have tackled

684
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 1>it because it was it was so much over my understanding,

685
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>over my head. I didn't know any of this. Well,

686
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing I didn't know, because I've talked

687
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to bankers since then, and especially when I get in

688
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the topic of cancer and things like that. I have

689
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 1>no medical background. I'm writing a book on cancer therapy

690
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and so forth, and I've had people tell me, like

691
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>doctors in particular, say ed you had an advantage that

692
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have. What what do you mean an advantage?

693
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>How could that be? You went to school, that's the

694
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>advantage we had. We had to unlearn. All you had

695
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to do was learn. We had to unlearn first. Oh yeah,

696
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>because when you go through the institutions and they teach

697
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you these things, you believe, you become a true believer

698
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>these people.

699
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Before we leave the financial stuff, I mean, you know,

700
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 3>we've got a lot of people looking at what is

701
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>happening now. It looks like, you know, they've been kicking

702
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 3>this can down the road for a long time. Looks

703
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 3>like we're getting towards the end of the rope. They've

704
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 3>openly talked about how they want to re engineer the

705
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>entire financial system. CBDC is on the horizon and all

706
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.159
<v Speaker 3>the rest of this stuff. You know, what, in general

707
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 3>is your advice to people? I know you're not a

708
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 3>financial advisor financial advice, but just in general, in terms

709
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 3>of preparing for what is coming, what would you say

710
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 3>to people?

711
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess it depends on to whom I'm talking because

712
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>for many people, if you tell them really what's happening,

713
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so beyond their world of understanding that they can't

714
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they cannot believe it, or if they believe it, they

715
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>don't understand it, so you're wasting your time. You have

716
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to get depend on who you're talking to. But I

717
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 1>guess the simplest way to explain it is to be

718
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>totally honest, but to not be dramatic about it. So

719
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>let's see if I can put that together.

720
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Some pretty dramatic stuff, get you it up, and then.

721
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Not being too dramatic. What is happening In my view,

722
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it is that the old system of money is coming

723
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>to an end. And that's an important fact to know

724
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>because up until now all you had to know is, well,

725
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>what has always worked? You know, like should we should

726
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 1>we invest in gold or silver or something in coins?

727
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>And there could be arguments pro and con but the most,

728
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the most overwriting argument was it's always worked, no matter

729
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 1>when you look in history, no matter what the problem was,

730
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 1>those that had gold and silver always came out on top.

731
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's always worked. That way is a really powerful item.

732
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 1>But now it isn't in my view, because the system

733
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 1>itself is changing, where to the point where money will

734
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 1>no longer even exist in the way that we think

735
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of it money. The essence of money in order for

736
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it to have any use to us is that we

737
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 1>have to own it. It's got to be our money.

738
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 1>It's not somebody else's money, because if it's somebody else's money,

739
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 1>they can just take it back and well, we don't

740
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have it. And this is what's changing, is the fact

741
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 1>that and most people don't see this at all. They think, well,

742
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 1>no matter what they come up with, it will be

743
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 1>just like it always has been. No. No, Because there's cbcds,

744
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the central Bank digital currencies that all of the nations

745
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>now are committed to adopting in the very near future,

746
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the next decade for sure, possibly starting in the next

747
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>year or two. That quality of private ownership is gone.

748
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>That those tokens or whatever they call them, the digital currencies,

749
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll have different names, whatever the name is, they will

750
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>be owned by the banks, and they'll be allocated to

751
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you and me and everybody else to use as long

752
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 1>as we have a good social credit, which means as

753
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>long as we behave according to what they think we should.

754
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 3>You and I are going to be pretty poorly and.

755
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be out on the street. I'm sitting

756
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 1>on the curb with a tin cup asking somebody to

757
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>put a coin into the tin cup. But there'll be

758
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>no coins. There are no coins anymore. They're just digital

759
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>impulses in the computer. So forget the cup and people

760
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 1>can understand that we're actually approaching a change in the

761
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>entire system. So the rules of what you do are different. Now.

762
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I would say, normally, without this upcoming CBCDS that we

763
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 1>should have a nice stockpile in gold and silver, and

764
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I still say that, by the way, I have not

765
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>as nice as stockpilet as I would like, but I

766
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 1>have some shekels put away in gold and silver and

767
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 1>in food and other physical tangibles, other assets that people

768
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 1>will need and you could use as barter. But in

769
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>terms of how you come out of it okay and

770
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 1>still maintain your lifestyle, it's a different game. And the

771
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 1>chances are we're not going to come out of it

772
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to how we went into it, and we

773
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared for that reality. Nobody wants to

774
00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>hear that.

775
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think what we're going to get is a

776
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 3>heavy dose of reality. You know, it's going to be skills,

777
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.599
<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be commodities and things like that

778
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that are going to be negotiable, and you know it's

779
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 3>going to be really it is going to be a reset.

780
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>And then the question is how do we how do

781
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 3>we cope with that? I think, you know, in terms

782
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 3>of people talking about a parallel society, Americans have not

783
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>really had any experience like people in third world countries

784
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 3>have in terms of operating black markets and things like that.

785
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 3>But I guess we'll learn pretty quickly. Yeah.

786
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Well, even the black market has a problem with

787
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 1>it because in order for a black market to work,

788
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 1>you have to have money that you own, you still have.

789
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 1>You go into the black market and you have money

790
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that you can give to somebody who's going to give

791
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you something. Or barter is the only thing border left,

792
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and that only works in your local community among people

793
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you know and trust. So it's it doesn't allow you

794
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 1>to put gas in your car, It doesn't allow you

795
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 1>to pay your rent, or to buy clothes in the

796
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>big store, the big box stores or anything like that.

797
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>If we don't turn this around and prevent it, we're

798
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be very much like little children who are

799
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>completely dependent on the state for everything, and that includes food, shelter, healthcare, clothing, everything,

800
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 1>and under those conditions, most people will buckle and they'll

801
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 1>be like slaves in Egypt.

802
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 3>That's right. The thing that concerns me is that this

803
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 3>is all based on surveillance, that is their overriding desire

804
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 3>to know everything about us. And what concerns me about

805
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 3>it is how apathetic so many people in our society

806
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 3>are about privacy and about surveillance and about free speech.

807
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>And you got people across the political spectrum, all these

808
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 3>people that are so eager about the the election, and

809
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 3>you see both of these candidates talking about how they've

810
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 3>got to shut people down that disagree with them. And

811
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 3>because of that, people downstream from them are also buying

812
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>into this kind of censorship stuff. And I think if

813
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 3>we could develop and get back a respect for free

814
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 3>speech and for privacy and things like that, that really

815
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 3>has to be fundamental as a guard against some of

816
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 3>this stuff, because that really is the essence of how

817
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.119
<v Speaker 3>their controls are going to run out against us.

818
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Well, you're aflutely correct, and only

819
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>which we have to be dealing with ideas and ideas.

820
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 1>That's the basis of our war. This is a war

821
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of ideas. I mean, yes, they have these powerful weapons

822
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that frighten us and can be used to eliminate us,

823
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's the ultimate weapon, of course. But in the meantime,

824
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they're conquering us not with weapons. They're conquering us with

825
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 1>fear of weapons. And that fear of weapons makes us

826
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>very compliant. And of course if they didn't have the weapons,

827
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.119
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't be afraid of them, that is true, but

828
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 1>they could pretend like they have the weapons. And that's

829
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>often what has happened in the past is you probably

830
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>know in Russia, particularly in the Soviet Union, they would

831
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>parade these huge missiles in the street on trucks. You know,

832
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 1>they were like eighty feet long, and these huge missiles

833
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like we send to the moon now we're supposedly send

834
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to I don't know what to think about that one.

835
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>But those weren't really missiles at all. I'm told that

836
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 1>they were just you know, made of wood and painted

837
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 1>up and so forth. But Americans, ah, look, they got

838
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>missiles too, And there was the fear of missiles, not

839
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the missiles themselves, that caused us to not confront the

840
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union and try and make friends with them and

841
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>abandon our own interests and so forth.

842
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So the can parade, right.

843
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. This is new and I guess that's

844
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 1>my message that the old answers to that question are

845
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>not reliable anymore. But that still doesn't mean you shouldn't

846
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>give them up. I mean you shouldn't use them. I

847
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>should say because I think that even though even though

848
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 1>we didn't don't have money because we're not obedient enough

849
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and they cut us down, and we did have coins,

850
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we could probably find somebody whould take silver coins if

851
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 1>they're small denomination, and gold coins in return for food

852
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 1>or something that they have a little surplus on in

853
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:37.079
<v Speaker 1>their homes. But this is not living, This is not surviving.

854
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:38.920
<v Speaker 1>This is slavery.

855
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think, though, if we fall back on the

856
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 3>fact that what's going to get us through this one

857
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 3>way or the other is going to be the ideas,

858
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be the principles on which we base

859
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 3>our life. I think people who have relationship with Christ

860
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 3>are going to have a foundation that's going to carry

861
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 3>them through this stuff. And it's going to be very

862
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>difficult if you don't have something like that, you are

863
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 3>going to if you don't have any The sand is

864
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be shifting, the earth is going to be quaking,

865
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 3>and if there isn't some foundation that is rock solid

866
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 3>in your life, and if they've got you, afraid they've

867
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 3>got you. And that's what we saw four years ago.

868
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 3>That was really a panic and fear. But that brings

869
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 3>me to the medical stuff, because I don't want to

870
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.599
<v Speaker 3>finish the interview without having you talk about the book

871
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:27.280
<v Speaker 3>World Without Cancer. I think this is really a time

872
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 3>for people's eyes to be open to this because prior

873
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 3>to what happened in twenty twenty, a lot of people

874
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 3>were taken in by the white coats. Remember when they

875
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 3>first started this thing, you had a public health person

876
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 3>come out. I played that clip over and over again,

877
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 3>comes out to the podium. But before the person who's

878
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 3>going to speak comes out of the podium, they had

879
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.079
<v Speaker 3>six people come out, three on each side, all them

880
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in white coats, and they march out in a line

881
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 3>and three of them stand on one side of the

882
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 3>podium and three of them So look at this. That

883
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 3>just putting this in your face, like we got white

884
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 3>lab coats where medical and we have authority, so listen

885
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 3>to us. And I think people have seen that now

886
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 3>as a fraud, and they have seen the self interest

887
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 3>in all of this stuff, so they're open to questioning

888
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 3>the authorities on this. And I'm sure you know you

889
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 3>must have quite a story behind A World Without Cancer,

890
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 3>because I know they came after Leatrill and B seventeen

891
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.159
<v Speaker 3>and Migdalena in a very very heavy way. I didn't

892
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 3>realize that you had written this book until I interviewed

893
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 3>John Richardson at RNC store dot com and when he

894
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 3>was talking about the books that they have there, about

895
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 3>your book especially. That's one of the main reasons I

896
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get you on because this is so key

897
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 3>and it is a time that people are ripe to

898
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 3>hear this message. Tell us a little bit about that.

899
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:45.320
<v Speaker 3>How you got into it?

900
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go again. How did I get into it? Well,

901
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>John Richardson, senior Doctor Richardson and I were very close

902
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.559
<v Speaker 1>friends that we had both worked together on projects in

903
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 1>the in the Birch Society and he he put up

904
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 1>some money to open up a little bookstore in the

905
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco area, and that's why I got involved with

906
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 1>because I was with the Birch Society in those days.

907
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 1>But we soon developed a personal friendship that went well

908
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, and it got to the point where after

909
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 1>a while we want to get away from the rootree

910
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the regular routine of our daily lives, and we'd like

911
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 1>to get away from town, go out in the countryside

912
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and tell people we're going fishing or something like that.

913
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 1>But we just go out and talk and do some

914
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hiking in the hills. And one day we're out doing

915
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that and and doctor John says to me, I need

916
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 1>your help. I need your he had he took his

917
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>briefcase with him on that trip. I thought was strange,

918
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.519
<v Speaker 1>and he opened up this. He opened up his briefcase

919
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and pulled out some papers and fumbled through them. He said,

920
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to write an article for the local newspaper

921
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 1>or magazine and I need your help writing. Could you

922
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 1>help me? I said, well, sure, of course, that's what

923
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I do. You're you're the doctor. If I get sick,

924
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you help me. I'm the writer. And if you're silly

925
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>enough to ask me to help you with the writing.

926
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.639
<v Speaker 1>And so he said, Well, I asked him. I said,

927
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>what is it. I said, well, I'm in trouble with

928
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the local medical association. They're threatening to take away my license.

929
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, what did you do? You know, like the

930
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 1>typical what did you do wrong? Yeah, well, this is

931
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing wrong. Is I'm saving lives. Oh, this was?

932
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>This was.

933
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Now we've seen that story over and over again. People

934
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 3>are ready to hear this and understand what's behind it.

935
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said, what do you mean? So naturally he

936
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>told me the story he says. He said, I'm an eye,

937
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 1>ear nose, and throat specialist, as you know, but I've

938
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>been getting people with cancer throughout their body systemic and

939
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they want me to treat them because they hear that

940
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I've got something that works. And I said, well do

941
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 1>you He said, yeah, I do. Well tell me about it.

942
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 1>So that's how the start the whole thing started. He said, Well,

943
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I found out there's a substance that's found in nature

944
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't believe in at first, but my office

945
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>manager convinced me to look into it. So I did.

946
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>This is a substance as accurs in nature, and if

947
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you eat it, it turns out to be a natural

948
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:32.679
<v Speaker 1>control or prevention, a natural resistance against cancer. I said,

949
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>how can that be? He said, well, I'm not sure

950
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>how it can be, but I know that it works.

951
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 1>So he told me the story of this amygdalan or

952
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>leatrill is the more popular name for it. That's found

953
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in some twelve hundred edible plants actually, but anyway, it's

954
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>primarily found for commercial purposes in apricot seeds and peach

955
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>seeds and any fruit in the Rosetia family has this

956
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff called amygdalen in its bit to the taste. And

957
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that's why most people in the Western world, are in

958
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>affluent societies, don't like to eat foods that have this

959
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>substance in it because it's bitter. If you've ever bitten

960
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>into an apple seed, you know what I'm talking about.

961
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the flavor. And he said that stuff in

962
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>low quantities is it looks like it's a natural control

963
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>for cancer. And he told me the story. All right,

964
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.639
<v Speaker 1>this gets interesting in the details. He had a dog

965
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that had cancer and he was about to put the

966
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 1>dog down because you know, he tried chemotherapy and everything

967
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.519
<v Speaker 1>else on the dog that the doctors do and it

968
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't working. In fact, the dog was getting sicker. And

969
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>when he heard about this, he says, I tried to

970
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:46.519
<v Speaker 1>use I decided to use this substance on the dog,

971
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and he said, blow me down. The dog got well

972
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>real fast, and I couldn't believe it. I'd never seen

973
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 1>that happen before. And then the next part of the

974
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>story is that he said his nurse came to him,

975
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>his head nurse, whose husband was had terminal cancer, and

976
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 1>she said, doctor John, you know my husband is not

977
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.199
<v Speaker 1>going to last very much longer. And I saw what

978
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 1>happened to the dog. Would you please do that for

979
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>my husband? And he said, well, sure, I'd be glad to,

980
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 1>but don't tell anybody because it's not approved, you know,

981
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:24.159
<v Speaker 1>for human use. And he tried it on her husband

982
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and he got well, this is how it all started.

983
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And so John said, I started using it very very

984
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 1>cautiously and very low dosages and very suspiciously, making sure

985
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 1>that I was not risking anybody's life, using it only

986
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>on people who really had terminal cancer to start off with.

987
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And he said, I was getting way way better results

988
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>than anybody I know. But the word got out. He said,

989
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I never advertised it and never talked much about it

990
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.840
<v Speaker 1>because I knew what the establishment would say about it.

991
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>It was quackery or something like that. But the word

992
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>got out because these patients that are dancing out of

993
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the office when they came in on a gurney. They

994
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.199
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and so patients started coming to his

995
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 1>clinic and it was no longer by this time an eye,

996
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.119
<v Speaker 1>ear nose, and throat clinic. It was a cancer clinic

997
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and people were coming from all over the world. And

998
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that at that time. So that's the

999
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>story he told me. And he said, now the medical

1000
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>professionists found out about it, and they threatened me that

1001
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>if I don't stop this immediately, they're going to take

1002
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 1>my license. He said, I need to tell the story.

1003
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Will you help me write it? I said, sure, that

1004
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>sounds interesting. I thought it would be a three day project,

1005
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, just to read about it a little bit

1006
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and ask a few questions and then just write it up.

1007
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>But it turned out to be I don't know, a

1008
00:57:55.280 --> 00:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>three year project. Yeah, something like that. Uh. It changed

1009
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>my life. It just changed my life. I wouldn't be

1010
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>here today if I hadn't learned about that, because it

1011
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it made me realize that almost everything that we think,

1012
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>we know that it is really important in our lives

1013
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:31.599
<v Speaker 1>is a lie. When I realized that money was a lie,

1014
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and now I found out that cancer treatments were a lie.

1015
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>What's more important than that? Yes, So that changed my life.

1016
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 1>And in my own family, I've I've seen we have

1017
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>some members of our family that are alive because of

1018
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the treatments. So I wrote the book. It took me

1019
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 1>quite a while. I sat at the at the feet

1020
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of listening to the great, the great sign assistant doctors

1021
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>who really knew about this stuff. Doctor Richison was very

1022
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>open about it. And of course I met the originator

1023
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of this whole treatment, who was doctor Ernst T. Krebs Junior,

1024
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>who was the inventor of all that, not the inventor,

1025
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but the discoverer of the chemical use and pioneer in

1026
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.960
<v Speaker 1>using it for cancer. And I sat in his office

1027
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 1>many many an hour. He's a portly gentleman. He was

1028
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 1>sit back and he put his fingers together and said, well,

1029
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 1>let me think about that for a moment, and.

1030
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 3>He'd go off of how did he discover it?

1031
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>How did he discover it? Well, okay, his father was

1032
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 1>a doctor, an MD. He was not an MD doctor.

1033
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>He had his PhD degree from some smaller institution, which

1034
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they liked to hold it against him because it wasn't

1035
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 1>from it wasn't from Harvard or something like that he

1036
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 1>was a PhD. But his doctor was a pioneer in that.

1037
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So his doctor and his and he worked together on

1038
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of herbal constructions from nature, because they had

1039
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>already discovered in their minds that nature has the cure,

1040
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.559
<v Speaker 1>not the test tube. So that's where they were experimenting.

1041
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 1>And they found that the use of leatrill or the substance.

1042
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Now there's this whole big story behind it. So that's

1043
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 1>what the book was about. I'll just give you one

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<v Speaker 1>quick example. One of the clues to this was the

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01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 1>fact that in the Midwest, it was quite common for

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01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 1>farmers to see that their cows would develop cancers of

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01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the mouth and lips and so forth and other parts

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01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of their bodies in the winter time, but they would

1049
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 1>usually go away in the spring. And they said, why

1050
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is that. There must be something about the weather. Well,

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01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.639
<v Speaker 1>then they got to observing that it happened shortly after

1052
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the green sprouts came up through the snow in the spring,

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01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>when the snow started to melt, and the first green

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01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 1>grasses started to come up through the snow, and the

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01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 1>collars would eat the green grasses. And it turns out

1056
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<v Speaker 1>these broad leaf grasses are very rich sources of amignalant.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the kind of clues that they had.

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<v Speaker 1>How they discovered this is by you know, scientific method,

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01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and so anyway, that's how it started. And so John

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01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.400
<v Speaker 1>asked me to help him write the article, and I did,

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01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 1>and that led to the book.

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<v Speaker 3>And and then what happened I bet they that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, when we look at what happened in the

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01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 3>last few years, if anybody comes up with any treatment

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01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 3>other than the one that they've decided they're going to

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01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.840
<v Speaker 3>sell you, they come after you in every way. We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen that with ivermectin, HQ, anything else that anybody comes

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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 3>up with. And so everybody this has been on public

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01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 3>display now. But you lived this. I guess the book

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01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.639
<v Speaker 3>was written in nineteen seventy. You've done an update I

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01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:56.639
<v Speaker 3>think in twenty ten or something like that, but you

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01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 3>know this is back in sixties. I guess where this

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01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 3>is happening. But you know when you were publishing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened after you published this? What was the firestorm?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's an interesting story. I published it and we

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01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 1>sold it as a little I had a little publishing

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01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 1>company by then, American Media, and we had a break

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01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 1>brisk sale on it. And I went to a book

1079
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 1>convention in San Francisco shortly after the book was published,

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01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.559
<v Speaker 1>and that's where all the biggies came. You know, these

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01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 1>big exhibits that half a block wide. And let's see

1082
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 1>which one was it. It was the little pocket books.

1083
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Bantam Bandham was there, and I thought, well, maybe we

1084
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 1>could convince Badham to reprint this and put it on

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01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the big market. So it just so happened. On the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of the first day. The president of Bantam was

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01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 1>there on the floor when I was there, and I

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01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 1>saw this cluster of people around him, so I thought

1089
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I'll get in line, so I did, and so I

1090
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.079
<v Speaker 1>went up shook his hand. I said, I'll make this short,

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01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 1>mister Smith or whatever his name was. I said, we

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01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 1>have this book here on LEAA Trill and it is

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01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 1>carrying cancer. You probably have heard about it the newspapers.

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01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a big controversy over it, and I'd like to

1095
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.519
<v Speaker 1>give you a copy and see if it sounds like

1096
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.559
<v Speaker 1>it's something that Bannedham would like to run with. So

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01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.679
<v Speaker 1>he gave it to his assistant who was standing next

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01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to him, and he said, y oh, well, we look

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01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 1>at this well. They called me later in the afternoon

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01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to have dinner with me and they

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01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to me about printing the book. So,

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<v Speaker 1>make a long story short, we did. You signed the contract. Wow,

1103
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we got banned him to publish our book. And they

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01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 1>put it out. They made it a they had a

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01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 1>special name for it. It was a special edition that

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01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:50.679
<v Speaker 1>they can produce a book in. I think it's forty

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01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 1>eight hours athing like that.

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01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 1>And they just work around the clock. They have teams

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01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of people and they work twenty four hours to get

1111
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing out in forty eight hours or something like that.

1112
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 1>And they did that with this book, and it went

1113
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 1>on the book stands and it was selling like hotcakes.

1114
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, we got this message

1115
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that it's out of print. Nobody can get the books

1116
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.119
<v Speaker 1>out of print, and so we checked it out. Sure enough,

1117
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 1>it's out of print. How come it's out of print?

1118
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And I called the publisher and well, there's no demand

1119
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 1>for it. There's no demand. The bookstores are clamoring for it. Well,

1120
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 1>our statistics show there's no demand for it. Well, we

1121
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>couldn't convince them otherwise. They just didn't want to reprint it.

1122
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So it was clear that somebody on the board of

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01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 1>directors at Bantam got the word, Hey, you guys made

1124
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:45.199
<v Speaker 1>a big mistake. You published the wrong book, and so

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01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.920
<v Speaker 1>we were we were clamped out. We had one printing

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01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and that was it. It was glorious for a few weeks,

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01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 1>but after that it was dead.

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<v Speaker 3>In the door nail story of my life. You talk

1129
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 3>about the pharmaceutical companies, they come after and they get

1130
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 3>you shut down. It is. It is amazing. But again,

1131
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:08.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, people can find that at RNC store dot com.

1132
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I know that he sells it there. And very important

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01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 3>for people to take control of their life, to question

1134
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 3>what they have been taught and to think critically, and

1135
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that really has been the story of your life. I

1136
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:27.000
<v Speaker 3>think questioning what a lot of people just accept as fact.

1137
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And you have done your research and you gave people

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01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 3>your opinion, and I think when their response is to

1139
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 3>just shut things down, that's something of an endorsement of

1140
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.440
<v Speaker 3>your research. I think there are responses to answer you.

1141
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and sort of a backward way. That's a pretty

1142
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 1>good recommendation. It good. I've been centered by the best.

1143
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.079
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Well, tell us about the Red Red Pill

1144
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 3>University and the Red Expo, which is coming up November

1145
01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 3>sixteenth through seventeenth, right, tell us little bit.

1146
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:03.239
<v Speaker 1>About Yes, that's a big flagship event. We started the

1147
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Red Pill expos in twenty seventeen and they've been just

1148
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 1>roaring successes. We were very skeptical about it at first,

1149
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:13.800
<v Speaker 1>because you know the red Pill meme. In case there's

1150
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 1>anybody listening that doesn't know what that means. It's based

1151
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.679
<v Speaker 1>on a sci fi movie it's about twenty one years

1152
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:25.000
<v Speaker 1>ago now called The Matrix, and the whole theme of

1153
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the story was that humans were now living in a

1154
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 1>fantasy world. They were all wired up to machines and

1155
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:35.159
<v Speaker 1>they were dreaming about their lives. They weren't really living them,

1156
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and they thought they were going to work every day.

1157
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 1>They thought they were raising a family, going on vacation,

1158
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.840
<v Speaker 1>eating meals and so forth. But it was all programmed

1159
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 1>into their minds and they were controlled by the Matrix.

1160
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what they called it. It was this computerized reality

1161
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and the only way to get out of that was

1162
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to take the Red Pill. There was the Blue pill,

1163
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.360
<v Speaker 1>which you could take if you chose to, which would

1164
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 1>put you back into the illusion. But to get out

1165
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of the illusion, you had to take the red pill.

1166
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It turns out that many people chose the blue pill

1167
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 1>because it was more comfortable. They'd rather not know that

1168
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they were wired up to a machine. They'd rather think

1169
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:23.039
<v Speaker 1>that we're living a normal life. It is more pleasant

1170
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 1>than knowing that you had to fight the matrix to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of a good parallel to the reality.

1172
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.559
<v Speaker 1>So we thought we would call this the Red Pill

1173
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Expo and deal with topics like that that we wanted

1174
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to expose the reality and that's underneath the illusions. And

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01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.000
<v Speaker 1>as I said a moment ago, it seems like the

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01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 1>more important something is, the more likely it is that

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01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.800
<v Speaker 1>we are in illusions about it because it's to somebody's

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01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 1>best interest to do that to us. Yes, they profit

1179
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:58.960
<v Speaker 1>from our naivety and our false beliefs.

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<v Speaker 3>Now where can they go to get this? As you've

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01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 3>got read, well, yeah, right, yeah.

1182
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 1>We have done physical events from the beginning and they

1183
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 1>were very well attended and very successful. But this time

1184
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:13.280
<v Speaker 1>around we've decided to go one hundred percent live stream,

1185
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.319
<v Speaker 1>primarily so that we can cut expenses on the overall

1186
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 1>production and make the event absolutely free instead of having

1187
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to charge tickets for it. Because we want. This is

1188
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 1>not about money, it's about getting the word out. So

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01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing this time, and it's working pretty well.

1190
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.039
<v Speaker 1>We're very impressed by the response. But we want as

1191
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 1>many people this is globally now around the world to

1192
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:37.239
<v Speaker 1>sign up for it. And you can find all the

1193
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 1>information who's going to be speaking, what the events are,

1194
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.399
<v Speaker 1>what the topics are, and a lot of insights as

1195
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 1>to the themes and so forth on red pillexpo dot org,

1196
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 1>red pillexpo dot org. So sign up is free, and

1197
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we do have an option for those that want to

1198
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.920
<v Speaker 1>come in on a VIP basis that gets some extra

1199
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 1>goodies if they want to do that, like they can

1200
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:06.119
<v Speaker 1>ask questions of the speakers, and we've got a raffle

1201
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 1>going on and all that kind of thing. It would

1202
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:09.880
<v Speaker 1>be nice to be able to pay the bills, but

1203
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we want this free if necessary, to anybody that you

1204
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.479
<v Speaker 1>can't afford ten or twenty dollars or whatever it is

1205
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:19.680
<v Speaker 1>as a donation. It's free. That's what our goal is.

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<v Speaker 3>You see good And one other question I've got about it.

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01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I see that you've got a new book coming out

1208
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 3>that's coming up. How it's called The chasm, the issue

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01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 3>behind all issues. When is that coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the latter part is a tough one. Yes, I

1211
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.880
<v Speaker 1>do have a new book. It's been coming out. It's

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01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.000
<v Speaker 1>been a coming out ever since the day after nine

1213
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to eleven. Actually, oh okay, that's what I started. That's

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01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 1>what I started to write it the day after nine

1215
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to eleven. That was you talk about a red pill.

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01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. But the whole purpose of the book is

1217
01:09:55.079 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to provide historical support were the fact that our war

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01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 1>today that we're in is a war of ideas. It's

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01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.039
<v Speaker 1>an ideological war. And it's not between the left and

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01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the right. It's not between the Republicans and the Democrats,

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01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>or the Liberals and the Conservatives, or the Nazis, or

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01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the Communists or the Socialists or all of these labels

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01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that we've been given to worry about. It's not the Masons,

1224
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not the Catholics, it's not the Jews. It's not

1225
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.439
<v Speaker 1>the black people, it's not the Christians, it's not the Muslims.

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01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.000
<v Speaker 1>All these divisions they want to get us focused on.

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01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:39.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not about any of that. Those all

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01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 1>little sub sections play a part in it, but the overriding, controlling,

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01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 1>dominating force behind it all is an idea, and it's

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01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a conflict of ideas, I should say, between something called

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01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 1>collectivism and individualism. I found out in my research that

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<v Speaker 1>those were were well known and used quite extensively one

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01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.199
<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago. You find them in the old books

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01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:10.399
<v Speaker 1>and in old newspapers too, But modern now it's all

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01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 1>been scrubbed, and for good reason, because those two words,

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01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 1>as strange as they are to the ears of most

1237
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 1>people today, are fully describing the conflict between left and right.

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01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know all these things we mentioned before. When

1239
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you peel off the labels, you find it's collectivism versus individualism,

1240
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and sore are the What is that? How do you

1241
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 1>define that? And that's what this booklet is all about.

1242
01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Is I took all the issues in the in the

1243
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.199
<v Speaker 1>big book that I'm working on to illustrate support for

1244
01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:48.119
<v Speaker 1>these principles. I've taken just the principles themselves and put

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01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 1>them into a fifty page document and I'm giving them

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01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 1>away free because I'm afraid I'm not going to live

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<v Speaker 1>long enough to get this bloody book finished. Although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making progress, I want to get these principles out now.

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<v Speaker 1>So about ten months ago, we made this little booklet here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fifty pages. Yeah, it's the chasm collectivism versus individualism,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's everything I have learned about those two topics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all there and type and we've got some good

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<v Speaker 1>illustrations you can see those in the back, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>illustrate the points that we're making. I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>found few, very few open minded people, and that's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to define, but very few people who I would have

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<v Speaker 1>continued to be on the other side politically from my

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<v Speaker 1>position that after reading this and going over these principles

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't come to the point where they say, hmm, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I've been an individualist all along and didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that simple, it's that clear. We get to thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of Well, let me back up. The mantra of collectivism

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<v Speaker 1>is this the individual must be sacrificed. Yeah, that's fully stated.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the group is more important than the individual and

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<v Speaker 1>the individual must be sacrificed if necessary or the greater

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<v Speaker 1>good of the greater number.

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't we see that with public health and all

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<v Speaker 3>the rest is with everything? Yeah, I know that with everything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good example. But because they don't care about

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<v Speaker 3>individual health, right, we don't really care if you've had

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<v Speaker 3>any issues with any of this. You're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>it for the public health, for the public good. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to do this. And I talked that bureaucracy,

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<v Speaker 3>the public education and on. They once they start talking

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<v Speaker 3>about that, it is the collectivism that is there.

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<v Speaker 1>You find this issue underneath all of them. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I say this is the this is the this is

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<v Speaker 1>the issue behind all issues. Literally, and look at Pearl Harbor,

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<v Speaker 1>look at nine to eleven, look at COVID, look at everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what it is. You'll find that collectivism

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<v Speaker 1>is the answer. What makes all of that seem justified. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Lenin put it this way. Vladimir Iliitch Lenin said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make an omelet, you have to crack

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<v Speaker 1>some eggs. And now it could be said many different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but the greatest, the greatest insults of history, the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>outrages of history, have been justified with this mantra. President

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt and his team justified withholding information from American commanders

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<v Speaker 1>on Pearl Harbor so that they were literally surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese attack, and they justified that, and they justified

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the information unknown to the American people because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mark of statesmanship. It was a means of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing about a greater good, because it was necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>convince the American people that we needed to get into

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<v Speaker 1>World War two as quickly as possible so that we

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<v Speaker 1>consider at the peace table afterwards and when we redivide

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<v Speaker 1>the world and we make it a better world. And

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<v Speaker 1>we probably would save millions of American lives too, because

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese surely would have come over and bombed our

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<v Speaker 1>cities and so forth. And you know, the average American

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<v Speaker 1>sid oh, oh, yeah, I guess. I guess the four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sailors we killed deliberately in Pearl Harbor was worth

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's the greater good of the greater number.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everything, everything that happens in this world that's

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<v Speaker 1>horrible is justified by the perpetrators on the mantra of collectivism. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to recognize that it's time to break

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<v Speaker 1>that hypnosis that that idea has over us. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that in school. They taught me that the greater good

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<v Speaker 1>for the greater number was the ideal political position. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people still think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh boy, we thought in space did we absolutely amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you're spot on with that and so

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<v Speaker 3>many other things. It's so interesting to talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>had so many important insights throughout your life, and your

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<v Speaker 3>work has been very valuable to so many people. And

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't read The World Without Cancer, but that's my

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<v Speaker 3>intention to read that. That's very very important, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>we look at the last four years, how the veil

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<v Speaker 3>has been pulled back on what the pharmaceutical industry and

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<v Speaker 3>what the government supposedly oversight people are doing for the

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<v Speaker 3>greater good. You know, people die miserably and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>well it's rare, it doesn't matter, right, It's for the

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<v Speaker 3>better good, for the greater good, common good. So we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to approve the drug that is out there. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you so much for joining us. And again this red

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<v Speaker 3>Pill University dot org. But you have a Redexpo dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the one where people go for the or

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<v Speaker 3>the red Expo that's coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the it can red pill you it's red

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<v Speaker 1>Pill Expo dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>Red pill Xpo dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, red pill Expo dot org. To go there.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see who we have as the upcoming speakers. We

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<v Speaker 1>still have three or four that we haven't put on

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<v Speaker 1>the page yet. They're all dynamite. These people all have

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<v Speaker 1>a red Pill to share with you, and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>really really important. And so it'd be two days. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean to be prepared to be blown away by information

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<v Speaker 1>like this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll change your life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Thank you so much for joining us, Jo Griffin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a great pleasure talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, David. I really appreciate it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to see you again on the screen and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking later.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. Well, what an inspiration. Jedward Griffin

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<v Speaker 3>is a real critical thinker, a visionary, a man with

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<v Speaker 3>the courage to go wherever the truth leads him. And

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<v Speaker 3>again uh Landmark Books, you want a fearful master creature

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<v Speaker 3>from jackyll Island, a world without cancer and of course

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<v Speaker 3>the red Pill expo that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for joining us. Have a good day.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you the David Night Show you can

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<v Speaker 4>listen to with your ears. You can even watch it

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<v Speaker 4>by using your eyes. In fact, if you can hear me,

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<v Speaker 4>that means you're listening to the David Night Show right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good job.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to know something else. You can find

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<v Speaker 2>all the links to everywhere to watch or listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the show at Thedavidnightshow dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a website.
