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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today my returning beautiful, amazing, fantastic, intelligent,
Speaker 1: lovely bestie, Miss heidis with me again. Hello Dolly.
Speaker 4: If you had a friend like Janet, you would always
Speaker 4: just feel amazing. Thank you, Janet. That was wonderful. I
Speaker 4: love you in all those ways. I'm not nearly as
Speaker 4: good at that as you.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're here for, right, is to lift
Speaker 1: each other up and be wonderful people in the process.
Speaker 5: That's why we get along.
Speaker 4: So well, somebody's got to do that, right because that's mm.
Speaker 1: Hmm, a little bit, a little bit, but that's okay,
Speaker 1: because you know what, we got our own corner of
Speaker 1: the world going on.
Speaker 5: Over here and I'm happy.
Speaker 4: Wheah, just fine. Boys. So yes, I said boys, true words.
Speaker 4: It's a boys club and we're not in it.
Speaker 1: But that's okay because the girls club rules. You know,
Speaker 1: today is an uper interesting topic that could go down
Speaker 1: so many different pathways, whether it be light pathways or
Speaker 1: dark pathways that is yet to be seen. So today
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about DNA, d MT and
Speaker 1: the Star of Bethlehem and howl that all ties together
Speaker 1: and believe or not, ladies and gentlemen, some of these
Speaker 1: things actually tie in with our previous episodes as well.
Speaker 1: So hmm, it's going to be thought provoking.
Speaker 4: I hope that's a shit show.
Speaker 5: Well it might be.
Speaker 1: It might be one of those shows. Who knows. We
Speaker 1: will find out.
Speaker 4: However, we're gonna go there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna throw this out, Like from the
Speaker 1: get go, the month of December or wintertime, especially especially
Speaker 1: coming from the healthcare industry, you see a ton of
Speaker 1: people with seasonal effective disorder and depression and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why it is, but Christmas seems
Speaker 1: to be the most depressing holiday for most people. Right,
Speaker 1: So winter months and the depression that sinks in and
Speaker 1: all of those things. Because the days are shorter, our
Speaker 1: circadian rhythm changes because it gets darker earlier, it gets
Speaker 1: lighter earlier, you know, all of those things. And so
Speaker 1: that can throw everybody off and out of balance. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm just going to say, bring out the cuckoo
Speaker 1: cuckoo too in people.
Speaker 4: Some people they joined the cuckoo clock.
Speaker 1: So they could have been on one of the plan
Speaker 1: of the Cuckoo's episodes. So for people that don't know
Speaker 1: what we're talking about with circadian rhythm, that's like your
Speaker 1: internal clock that monitors like when you're supposed to wake up,
Speaker 1: when you're supposed to go to bed, when it's day,
Speaker 1: when it's night, like all of those things. And it's
Speaker 1: like your body's masterclock that keeps you in balance and harmony.
Speaker 1: And so with the time change, how many times did
Speaker 1: you talk to people that go through the time change
Speaker 1: when they got to jump forward or spring back with
Speaker 1: their clocks And it makes people a little it really does.
Speaker 4: I don't think they should do it anymore unless like
Speaker 4: you live in a farming community, like I don't know
Speaker 4: they petitioned for that here where I live, to not
Speaker 4: do it anymore. But then somehow we're still doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I remember when it was in front of Congress
Speaker 1: that they were going to do away with that like
Speaker 1: forever and permanently make it a thing, and then it's
Speaker 1: like just kidding, Yeah, we're not really going to talk
Speaker 1: about that. So it's interesting because your circadian rhythm has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with your pineal gland, right, and
Speaker 1: your pineal gland is what manufactures the melatonin and all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, and so that changed to your melatonin changes,
Speaker 1: and so like anytime somebody wants to like check their
Speaker 1: melatonin levels, it's kind of like other hormone levels that
Speaker 1: fluctuate with time periods throughout the day. And so your
Speaker 1: melatonin is going to rise between eight and ten PM
Speaker 1: because that's what your body's telling you that you need
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, peaks around two to four am.
Speaker 5: Hello me.
Speaker 1: That is usually when my body wakes me up and
Speaker 1: is like, you know what, your bladder is full, you
Speaker 1: should get up and get out of bed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never fails, right, And so by the morning time,
Speaker 1: that's when your melatonin falls like drastically, because your body's
Speaker 1: supposed to wake up and that's all part of that,
Speaker 1: you know, normal clock. So if you're one of those
Speaker 1: people that ignores your circadian rhythm and does your own
Speaker 1: thing and stays up till two o'clock in the morning
Speaker 1: and then sleeps until you know, one o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: I could understand why you might be we teensy off weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you see this picture, okay of this pineal gland.
Speaker 4: I don't know, so I think it's very cool. This
Speaker 4: next picture it's a walnut, it is, But look at this,
Speaker 4: I'll see it.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 4: Isn't that interesting? This was my favorite picture I found
Speaker 4: for this episode. I was like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1: Well, but you know, it actually makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense in the grand scheme of things, and hopefully people
Speaker 1: are watching, we'll catch on to this and where we're
Speaker 1: going with us. So keeping in mind that some people,
Speaker 1: like I said, don't pay attention to their normal bodies,
Speaker 1: rhythm and stuff, and that's not for you know, it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily people that work night shift because they can't help,
Speaker 1: but that's what you work. But jet leg or people
Speaker 1: that are late gamers or doom scrollers on social media,
Speaker 1: those are things you can help. But don't, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: so the interesting thing in your body. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about DMT. So not the trippy kind that you
Speaker 1: can go and do with the shaman in the woods, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, not this kind right here, not.
Speaker 1: The uber trippy kind of d MT. Right, your body,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, actually manufacture. There's DMT on its own.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: In all my years of being a nurse, did I
Speaker 1: know this?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I did not. I'm the first to admit it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what your body makes DMT? And I
Speaker 1: was uber shocked and uber interested to learn about that
Speaker 1: because I was not aware of that. I've never read
Speaker 1: that in a book, a textbook and training or in
Speaker 1: school like, none of that. It was not a thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't teach that because it wasn't in any.
Speaker 4: I never even heard about DMT until until basically the
Speaker 4: one that made it famous right right here. I didn't
Speaker 4: hear about this. I don't know that I want to
Speaker 4: fill this ever, like it sounds insane unless it comes
Speaker 4: on naturally like we're going to talk about today. And
Speaker 4: maybe you know, since I have had some close calls,
Speaker 4: maybe I already have. But I'm just saying that, I mean,
Speaker 4: do you really want to know what it's like right
Speaker 4: as you're checking out, like, well.
Speaker 1: No, And that's why the deeper we get into the episode,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up some things that I have
Speaker 1: talked to somebody else about that was in the occult
Speaker 1: side of things, And I'm like, what, No, Like, absolutely not,
Speaker 1: do I want to go there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: And some people do this repeatedly, over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. Now we're talking about the actual experience with
Speaker 1: the shaman or doing stuff on your own, oh whatever,
Speaker 1: But it's very different than what your body makes. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so there's two enzymes in your body
Speaker 1: that actually helped to manufacture your body's own DMT, which
Speaker 1: who knew and it's aa DC which is aromatic l
Speaker 1: amino acid uh decarbioxylase.
Speaker 4: Didn't and also.
Speaker 1: Didn't know what that was. And then another one called
Speaker 1: i NMT, which is endull in methyl transferase. But your
Speaker 1: body actually has several organs that play a part in
Speaker 1: making the d MT, which I thought was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Now of course, uh, big blinking sign. Your brain is
Speaker 1: the first one which makes complete and total sense that
Speaker 1: your brain is the one in charge of this trippy
Speaker 1: drug that your body fakes.
Speaker 4: Right, we just add some turkey, so this is also involved.
Speaker 1: Exactly tripped a fan is definitely because those two chemicals
Speaker 1: that I mentioned before, they they mix with that and
Speaker 1: they cause the methyl and the and whatever causes trip
Speaker 1: to mean so that sounds trippedy on its own right.
Speaker 4: Funniest episodes ever of the of this show. I don't
Speaker 4: know if we can say, yeah, hopefully we can, Oh,
Speaker 4: well I did, it's funny, but I you know, this
Speaker 4: one in the KFC one is probably two of my favorite.
Speaker 4: Oh and the soup Nazi people.
Speaker 1: That don't know what we're talking about. Turkey has tripped
Speaker 1: a fan in it. And tripped a fan is what
Speaker 1: makes you like almost comatosed after you eat. So it
Speaker 1: did not know that, now you do. Yes, So your brain,
Speaker 1: since it manufactures everything relating to d MT. It has
Speaker 1: to do with your neo cortex, your hipocampus, and the
Speaker 1: pineal gland and so there has been lots of rat
Speaker 1: studies that they have done to measure DMT levels and
Speaker 1: the brains and they said that it's comparable to serotonin levels,
Speaker 1: and serotonin levels is what either balances you out or
Speaker 1: makes you like hyper excited. So interesting that that that
Speaker 1: has been around for a while, and I still never
Speaker 1: heard of it.
Speaker 4: No me either. This has all been a new I mean,
Speaker 4: since they've figured out how to replicate.
Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting to me. So the next
Speaker 1: organ that helps to produce DMT is the lungs, and
Speaker 1: so it says human lung tissue has some of the
Speaker 1: highest levels of that i NMT chemical expression in your body.
Speaker 1: So your lungs are a major contributor to DMT production,
Speaker 1: and I guess that's because of the oxygen that we
Speaker 1: take in and how it's broken down in the lungs
Speaker 1: and processed in the lungs, So that would be my guess.
Speaker 1: So the pineal gland as well, and so the pineal
Speaker 1: gland has both of those chemicals. That means that conditions
Speaker 1: coexist for the synthesis actually in the pineal gland itself,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of cool. And then it says also
Speaker 1: peripheral organs, so your adrenal glands, which makes perfect sense
Speaker 1: because they also produce cortisol, which changes people's smooth and
Speaker 1: behavior and stuff. Your thyroid gland, which is a master
Speaker 1: regulator for your body your immune cells, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: And even your retina and eye tissue make DMT.
Speaker 4: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. So we're learning along with everyone else today.
Speaker 1: So school is in session.
Speaker 4: Ladies, true, don't make Jennet get the ruler.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I could use that for another series
Speaker 1: at another time.
Speaker 5: That's true, very true.
Speaker 1: So researchers nowadays think that DMT is actually part of
Speaker 1: the body's immune and stress response system, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That DMT is actually what's helping us to regulate whether
Speaker 1: we get you know, sick or not. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool. So the picture she brought up says DMT
Speaker 1: this spirit molecule yea Belokia revolutionary research into the biology
Speaker 1: of near death and mystical experiences.
Speaker 4: Wild and I think it's very cool. The reason why
Speaker 4: I picked this particular picture is because where we're going
Speaker 4: to go in a minute and all the eyeballs.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, right, well, which makes sense because
Speaker 6: we make DMP to our retina and our eye tissue
Speaker 6: and so the all seeing eye, and then.
Speaker 1: It transfers maybe to your i neal gland with your consciousness,
Speaker 1: your awakening so and tersting in trasante. So when does
Speaker 1: the body release DMT so studies have been conducted that
Speaker 1: say that it spikes during what during brim sleep, So
Speaker 1: the most RESTful, restorative, reparative sleep that your body can get,
Speaker 1: your body is actually releasing DMT. That's why dreams for
Speaker 1: a lot of people are highly visual. People remember their
Speaker 1: dreams because the more visual that they are, the more
Speaker 1: people remember them. I personally rarely remember dreams.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I do when I take benadryl,
Speaker 4: of all things? But that makes sense if it's increasing.
Speaker 4: I don't think I have very much melatonin when I
Speaker 4: got my DNA, whatever thing done, it gives you kind
Speaker 4: of your silly traits, you know whatever, you like chocolate
Speaker 4: more than vanilla, blah blah blah. It said I do
Speaker 4: not require as much sleep as other people, and I
Speaker 4: know that's true. And that's why I've been able to
Speaker 4: do night shift for twenty seven years, or I would
Speaker 4: not be able to because how I survive and be
Speaker 4: a mom still is I forced myself to wake up.
Speaker 4: I get up early, and then you know I'm able to,
Speaker 4: like go still do the things.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I could not do what you do
Speaker 1: because there's no way that I would function well now
Speaker 1: at my age on a night shift. Can't do it fully.
Speaker 4: Rough, definitely rough, can't do it.
Speaker 1: Why I'm telling you what, I must be getting old
Speaker 1: because it was very difficult for me to stay up
Speaker 1: till nine pm last night. Oh no, So outside of
Speaker 1: your highly vivid dreams during rim sleep, lots of DMT
Speaker 1: is also released in a lot of near death experiences.
Speaker 1: So people that have had near death experiences and they
Speaker 1: can explain to you vividly what they saw, what colors
Speaker 1: they saw, the whole nine yards makes perfect sense. Or
Speaker 1: people that say that they saw the bright light right.
Speaker 1: All part of the experience.
Speaker 4: Depends my mom, so she doesn't mind me sharing. But
Speaker 4: it wasn't a great experience. I chose this particular picture
Speaker 4: because instead of the bright at the end, she saw
Speaker 4: a lot of this purple. But it also wasn't a
Speaker 4: naturally occurring situation and so that's probably why. And also
Speaker 4: she said she would never do that again. Scared the
Speaker 4: holy shit out of her and she never did any.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is a lot of people that
Speaker 1: have the similar story to what you just described all
Speaker 1: talk about seeing purple.
Speaker 7: And I hate the color purple, but I think I
Speaker 7: have had enough Your death on accent, Like I had
Speaker 7: a hypertensive episode during surgery once.
Speaker 4: It was super bad, right, even as a little little kid,
Speaker 4: I had a horrible burn, requiring skin grafts and hospitalization,
Speaker 4: all this stuff. And so I think maybe there's something
Speaker 4: in there that maybe I remember, Maybe I just have
Speaker 4: an aversion, you know at this point.
Speaker 1: Which and it may be because it may be your
Speaker 1: body's natural protection, like suppressing those memories of that so
Speaker 1: that you don't have to relive that over and over again,
Speaker 1: because granted it's a terrifying experience anyway. And then especially
Speaker 1: shrouded in the color purple and doesn't exactly doesn't purple
Speaker 1: have a cult meaning?
Speaker 4: I yeah, I do believe it does. I would have
Speaker 4: to look at that to be sure, because I know
Speaker 4: the colors are really important to them. Steiner goes really
Speaker 4: into the colors. But I can't remember offhand, but I've
Speaker 4: always hated I mean, since I was a young girl,
Speaker 4: maybe that color blue. Now I love.
Speaker 1: Blue, but yeah, say, I'm not a purple fan either.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's from a past experience of me as well.
Speaker 5: So interesting.
Speaker 1: So the next one is highly interesting of when when
Speaker 1: a lot of d MT is released, birth birth of
Speaker 1: children or trauma events. Now, trauma, I can definitely see that,
Speaker 1: but I can honestly tell.
Speaker 4: You I don't know how they know.
Speaker 1: I don't recall releasing a lot of d MT when
Speaker 1: I had my child.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the children. I'm like, was this with the children?
Speaker 4: I mean I could see it, but like, how would
Speaker 4: they not? I mean maybe I would hope they're not
Speaker 4: doing very strange.
Speaker 1: Testing on somebody's in labor and the doctor or researcher
Speaker 1: standard no room going, do you see any bright colors right?
Speaker 4: Or like I think my scary thought was for the
Speaker 4: baby and that and doing EEGs as they're born. And
Speaker 4: I could see it because oh, yeah, have the ability
Speaker 4: to put the head leads on and it measures a
Speaker 4: lot of things, and I would not doubt that it
Speaker 4: measures other things if they wanted it to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's crazy. And so, uh, trauma I can
Speaker 1: definitely understand, because again, your body goes into the fight
Speaker 1: or flight stuff and you're releasing you know, high liberals
Speaker 1: of cortisol and dopamine trying to you know, dull your
Speaker 1: pain and like all kinds of things. So could I
Speaker 1: understand that? Yes, Again, I still don't get the childbirthing,
Speaker 1: I don't. I can honestly say no.
Speaker 4: It just hurt.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't a euphoric experience right now.
Speaker 4: I had one at home and I did that whole thing,
Speaker 4: and people were like, oh, didn't you feel great afterward?
Speaker 4: And I can say this, like during the moment, no,
Speaker 4: but I did get that rush of endorphins after the fact,
Speaker 4: like what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: Thanks?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: And I just wanted to clean the house. But I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, that's great, I'm tired. I guess I'm
Speaker 4: going to clean the house now.
Speaker 1: I did not want to clean the house. No, I
Speaker 1: did not. So the thing with the birth and the
Speaker 1: trauma that I find it interesting is that they said
Speaker 1: that the DMT helps with consciousness transitions and emotional imprinting,
Speaker 1: so maybe it is more on the infant than it
Speaker 1: is on the mom.
Speaker 4: Like that, because you know, we quit seeing all that.
Speaker 4: I was a four set delivery, so was my husband.
Speaker 4: It was pretty common back then, and they kind of
Speaker 4: cut it out. You know, they do use the vacuum
Speaker 4: if they absolutely have to, but as an ellen D
Speaker 4: nurse for years and years, I only saw that maybe twice. Ever,
Speaker 4: they've really backed off of that because of I imagine what.
Speaker 1: You're saying, got to get the salad tongs out right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't want to be making kids anymore in
Speaker 4: tune spiritually because you know, they're trying to wreck that
Speaker 4: for everybody.
Speaker 1: And that may be that may have a huge role
Speaker 1: to play in it, because researchers are like, uh, oh,
Speaker 1: we better like cut this out because you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows.
Speaker 4: I want to make no gifted kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And so now they just want to use
Speaker 1: the vacuum extractor and suck all that you know, good
Speaker 1: stuff out of them.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: So the next thing is through meditation, fasting, and ecstatic states.
Speaker 1: So during these times, high gamma brain waves correlate with
Speaker 1: high psychedelic activity. And I will tell you if you
Speaker 1: are super into fasting, and especially if you do like
Speaker 1: a three day fast, your body goes into autophagy and
Speaker 1: that's where you're you're burning off all of the stuff
Speaker 1: and so you experience like extreme mental clarity and all
Speaker 1: of that stuff during a longer fasting period. Now, a
Speaker 1: lot of people like me all fast twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: but usually when you do a two three day fast,
Speaker 1: that's when you hit the utophagy stage where it's like
Speaker 1: everything goes whoa, Like all the world brightens up and
Speaker 1: you know you have.
Speaker 4: Like you took an adderall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have creativity and you have plenty of
Speaker 1: energy and your mind is sharp and focused and whatever.
Speaker 4: Shaking that Janet No.
Speaker 5: I take it a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Because I clearly have ADHD.
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you I was like, I was like, whoa,
Speaker 8: I can't be uh being Heidi like this this is
Speaker 8: way too bright outside the colors are brighter the things.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is not for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like any type of math and fetamine
Speaker 1: use or something. That is why people take it because
Speaker 1: of the vividness and the clarity of everything. But yeah,
Speaker 1: fasting will put you in the same thing and your
Speaker 1: body because it has rid itself of all of the
Speaker 1: toxins and the excess sugar and carbs and whatever. That's
Speaker 1: when your body is like supercharged and hypercharge and it's
Speaker 1: like ready to go. So for all you that.
Speaker 4: With the tunnel, this one cracked me up. I was like,
Speaker 4: they're just chucking people down the tunnel.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes they're like go to the light, you need help.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, scary I hope you don't stay down at
Speaker 4: the bottom there.
Speaker 1: So that chucking people to the light kind of goes
Speaker 1: with the last time that your body releases DMT, and
Speaker 1: that's right before dying or your organs shut down completely.
Speaker 5: So hmmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it says they think that DMT helps the
Speaker 1: brain remain conscious during extreme oxygen loss, and so you know,
Speaker 1: like your organs are shutting down and DMT takes over
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I lost my kidneys, This is
Speaker 1: not so.
Speaker 4: Bad, right, It's fine, it'll be fine, right, everything's good, man.
Speaker 4: This has got to be the filling you feel when
Speaker 4: you're in the top filled with ice cubes and their
Speaker 4: harvesting now just kidding.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the whole another show too, darn it.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 1: So the interesting thing is why does the body make DMT?
Speaker 1: And so they don't really know, they don't understand, but
Speaker 1: what they have figured out, or they think they have
Speaker 1: figured out, is that it plays a very important role
Speaker 1: in visual processing. Hence the retina and the eye tissue
Speaker 1: making DMT. And because we take in all forms of light,
Speaker 1: whether it's sunlight, blue light, you know, fluorescent light or whatever,
Speaker 1: all goes in through our eyeballs and then it transfers
Speaker 1: into the nervous system and all of that stuff, and
Speaker 1: that's basically what runs our body right is light. So
Speaker 1: DMT may help the brain create the internal imagery. And
Speaker 1: so if you didn't make DMT in your body, would
Speaker 1: you still be able to actually see out of your eyeballs?
Speaker 1: Like what you're actually seeing? Kind of trippy, kind of trippy.
Speaker 1: So also it's in near death survival episodes, and so
Speaker 1: they think that DMT actually works to protect your neurons
Speaker 1: during times of extreme stress or again oxygen deprivation. So
Speaker 1: it's a neuro protectant, which is kind of trippy to
Speaker 1: think about that. It's a neuroprotectant that people that go
Speaker 1: on DMT trips of the outside your body type, those
Speaker 1: are times of extreme stress because people will tell you
Speaker 1: like they're being chased by things, or something is clawing
Speaker 1: at them or whatever. I've heard all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: stories from people that have been on a DMT trip.
Speaker 4: I've heard good and I've heard bad. I've heard a
Speaker 4: lot of talking to angels or demons a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I will pass on the talking to
Speaker 1: the demons part.
Speaker 4: I don't want to take away that they're going into
Speaker 4: a realm where they do not belong.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, one hundred percent. Which leads us to
Speaker 1: the next thing is that it works for spiritual or
Speaker 1: mystical perception, and so that's where people get. Of course,
Speaker 1: the out of body experiences, the entity encounters spiritual revelations,
Speaker 1: like people are like, oh I found myself, I know
Speaker 1: my purpose and my plan and whatever. Or they have
Speaker 1: deep emotional memory access and so they can access things
Speaker 1: that their subconscious has suppressed for long periods of time.
Speaker 1: But I would just want to say this, so is
Speaker 1: this like related to the angelic visitation psychosis that we
Speaker 1: talked about on the last show, or are people really
Speaker 1: having a spiritual awakening? So is it higher enlightenment versus
Speaker 1: demonic activity attachments et cetera, et cetera. Or think about
Speaker 1: people with sleep paralysis. A lot of people who come
Speaker 1: back from DMT trips we'll talk about have sleep paralysis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no thanks, I don't want to remember the things
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be there. That sounds like a bad idea
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Kind of like those oh I can't
Speaker 1: remember what they're called. There's some kind of glasses that
Speaker 1: I have, like the purple do you remember what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, some kind of purple lens or something, and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to help you see like demons and stuff
Speaker 1: around you. And I'm like, oh, hell no, no, no, Like,
Speaker 1: can you imagine how fearful you would be every single
Speaker 1: day after encountering that. I mean, so why did you
Speaker 1: want to go on a trip to trip yourself out?
Speaker 4: Well, and we know it's true, Like, look, the Bible
Speaker 4: tells you it's true if you believe in the Bible,
Speaker 4: you know, if you believe in the Torah, if you
Speaker 4: believe in like all these people say the same stuff,
Speaker 4: even Joseph. So I'm just saying, you know, maybe you
Speaker 4: don't want to end up like John d and Joseph
Speaker 4: Smith and all the people, because none of them met
Speaker 4: a very great end. I mean chucked out of windows
Speaker 4: raising their friend's kid like I don't know, doesn't sound
Speaker 4: great to me, but.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Yeah, I think that will be a hard pass
Speaker 1: for me. Like you do your thing, I'll do my thing.
Speaker 5: We'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So with the immune regulation with the DMT, it interacts
Speaker 1: with different things and it stabilizes your cells and works
Speaker 1: to reduce inflammation. And so not only is it neuroprotectant,
Speaker 1: anti inflammatory, and it's a chemical bridge between consciousness and biology,
Speaker 1: which is actually kind of cool because it's one of
Speaker 1: those fearal good chemicals, like you know, with the dopamine
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, and the serotonin and all
Speaker 1: of those things working together. But who knew that all
Speaker 1: this time your body was working with DMT production as well.
Speaker 1: I'm like shocked, I'm floored. I honestly am.
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know that as well.
Speaker 1: So what is the connection with the paneal gland? So
Speaker 1: your paneal gland has the quote unquote machinery to manufacture
Speaker 1: the DMT because it produces the melatonin and it's deeply
Speaker 1: connected with your circadian rhythm, your dream states, and spiritual experiences.
Speaker 1: And so they consider the paneal gland to be the
Speaker 1: quote seat of the soul, Which what do secret societies
Speaker 1: and ancient text and things like that talk about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to take it out and put it in
Speaker 4: somebody else. That's sure, you don't you want to live forever?
Speaker 1: Because this is considered the quote seat of the soul.
Speaker 1: It's in the Kabbola, it's in Verdict text, it's in uh,
Speaker 1: what is it discarte m hm. It's in all of
Speaker 1: these different texts where they talk about the paneal gland
Speaker 1: and how important it is, and and your paneal gland,
Speaker 1: you know, when it's open and it's not calcified, that's
Speaker 1: when everything is like vivid and you're creative and you
Speaker 1: know all all of the things. You have critical thought
Speaker 1: process which is so important, and what happens when that's calcified,
Speaker 1: All of that goes away and you it would be easier.
Speaker 1: Suppose that scientists and researchers knew that if they could
Speaker 1: do things to cause classification of the pineal gland, how
Speaker 1: dumbed down society would be, and how much easier we
Speaker 1: would be to control if we couldn't form thoughts and
Speaker 1: critical processes on our own.
Speaker 4: Right. So that's what that's what one of our other
Speaker 4: shows was he was trying to make him a little
Speaker 4: slave like that, mister Dahmer spooky m.
Speaker 1: So you know they're working on that. You know that's
Speaker 1: been in the works.
Speaker 4: For a long time, and all of all the.
Speaker 1: Way back like the picture that you're showing again, like
Speaker 1: Egyptian times and whatever. So this is not a new
Speaker 1: thing that they're focusing on that third eye, right, that's
Speaker 1: your third eye.
Speaker 4: Yep, sutely so.
Speaker 1: Uh, emotional and neurological cocktail. Holidays, of course, for a
Speaker 1: lot of people bring grief in nostalgia thinking about the
Speaker 1: past traditions they don't do anymore because the family members
Speaker 1: being lost or whatever. People get uber depressed. They get
Speaker 1: very heightened in their emotional state. Hence why I hate
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping season because no one has manners. Everyone is
Speaker 1: crazy and they will literally chop your toes off with
Speaker 1: a cart to get to a bag of eminem's.
Speaker 4: I mean it is true, it is true, and I
Speaker 4: think the holidays. So for us working in mental health,
Speaker 4: we always know we get a surge right before on
Speaker 4: a surge right after one hundred, the way it is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if we get low on hours, we always are like,
Speaker 4: don't worry about it, almost the holidays.
Speaker 1: Don't worry all the.
Speaker 4: It'll happen, and.
Speaker 5: We care about that. But it's true, absolutely.
Speaker 4: And it's just you know, people get to the point,
Speaker 4: you know, money, like you said, not only the traditions,
Speaker 4: but this pressure, Like I know, as a single mom
Speaker 4: when I was one, r got pressure of being able to.
Speaker 1: Provide and all all that you have to give everybody
Speaker 1: what they want, And so desperation makes people do crazy things.
Speaker 1: Because any other time of the year, if you had
Speaker 1: Susie the sassy shopping cart person right you ran into her,
Speaker 1: any other time of the year, she would definitely not
Speaker 1: try to take your toes off with the cart. But
Speaker 1: during the holiday season, that's when people go.
Speaker 5: Theirk a little crazy.
Speaker 4: It starts at that Black Friday Maen.
Speaker 1: And so what causes that, What causes people to snap
Speaker 1: and to behave in ways that they don't normally behave
Speaker 1: in and do things that they wouldn't normally do. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's a thing that's true. So during that
Speaker 1: time of year, not only do people go crazy, but
Speaker 1: it is the time of year where everyone will tell you,
Speaker 1: not everyone, but you know what I'm saying. Abroad, percent
Speaker 1: of the population will talk about seeing angels or hearing
Speaker 1: loved ones that have passed away, hearing their voices, or
Speaker 1: smelling certain things that you know, remind them of a
Speaker 1: person in the past, like certain sense and things like that,
Speaker 1: or nursing staff talk about seeing and having sightings of
Speaker 1: shadowy or light, you know, figures or whatever. And so
Speaker 1: does that kind of stuff happen and does it heighten
Speaker 1: this time year?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: Very weird, right, So why does that happen? Well, how
Speaker 1: about is your DNA a spiritual antenna? And I'm going
Speaker 1: to say yes, because your DNA is your God given
Speaker 1: strand to make up who you are. That is your
Speaker 1: connection to God. Your mRNA is the messaging between you
Speaker 1: and God. Hence, why do we want to give mRNA
Speaker 1: vaccinations and treatments and stuff alter that DNA Because they're
Speaker 1: severing that connection with Creator. So the science side of
Speaker 1: things says that DNA emits and receives tiny little light signals,
Speaker 1: and some other scientists that are on the other side
Speaker 1: of the coin say they act like a radio antenna.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you this is absolutely one
Speaker 1: hundred percent Drew. And here's why. If you are a
Speaker 1: shit person, right, and you have crummy behavior and whatever,
Speaker 1: what kind of people do you attract?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 5: Say, if you.
Speaker 1: Are kind hearted and loving and empathetic for people and whatever,
Speaker 1: what do you attract in your circle those same kind
Speaker 1: of people? And so do I side on the the fringe?
Speaker 1: Science part where your DNA is a radio antenna, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because what you put out comes back to you. And
Speaker 1: if you put out misery and chaos into the universe,
Speaker 1: your life is full of misery and chaos a lot.
Speaker 1: So yes, I believe that. And it says that human
Speaker 1: bodies respond not only to other people's energy levels and stuff,
Speaker 1: which we all know because we talk about that a lot,
Speaker 1: but it also responds to cosmic radiation, solar cycles, and
Speaker 1: full moons. So think about to the human resonance frequency
Speaker 1: that you know makes people lacked a little cuckoo and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, I feel like everything is off,
Speaker 1: everything is heightened or whatever. During those times, it was
Speaker 1: literally splashed all over social media when that frequency changed.
Speaker 1: And think about two with the full moons. Full moons
Speaker 1: have always brought out cukadoos.
Speaker 4: These Arctic northern lights. My ass. Look, people, I don't
Speaker 4: care what you saw. I'm sure you did. I did too,
Speaker 4: But guess what, it's never happened before, Like do the
Speaker 4: math and know that they're doing something to you.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. And we know from you know,
Speaker 1: research and what we've talked about before. Do they have
Speaker 1: the type of energy weapons that can do that, and
Speaker 1: do they know about affecting our frequencies and stuff I
Speaker 1: look at we did a long time ago, like the
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome, you know, and we talked about that and
Speaker 1: how they can use not only frequencies, but sounds and
Speaker 1: smells and all kinds of things.
Speaker 4: I remember right around twenty twenty there was this sound
Speaker 4: every night, and I wasn't the only one. Other people
Speaker 4: are the weird high pitched sound. And they do stuff
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, And that's part of the
Speaker 1: testing that they do on human human beings, with or
Speaker 1: without your knowledge and consent, right, But that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And so anything that they can do to upset or
Speaker 1: interfere with that connection and your your DNA antenna, of
Speaker 1: course they're going to do it. So spiritual side of things,
Speaker 1: angels are considered frequency based beings, and so Christmas angels
Speaker 1: often are described as glowing or shimmering, so people that
Speaker 1: describe seeing them this time of year, that's what they
Speaker 1: describe them as, or sometimes they're even depicted in movies
Speaker 1: right as shimmery type type things. And so the idea
Speaker 1: that intuition or revelation is a signal received by your
Speaker 1: own DNA coil. So I tend to believe that too, because.
Speaker 4: This picture shows that so good. It's like the coil
Speaker 4: in the back. And then I really like this one.
Speaker 1: Well, and it makes sense because how many times do
Speaker 1: you have an intuition like, oh, I should not do that,
Speaker 1: or maybe I should get hold of somebody or whatever.
Speaker 1: That is literally your your God consciousness telling you to
Speaker 1: stay away from something, telling you to run towards something,
Speaker 1: telling you to contact someone. That's exactly what that is.
Speaker 1: So because the the DNA stranding that you know he created,
Speaker 1: the Creator created us to be those receivers for him
Speaker 1: and to get those messages. But how often do we
Speaker 1: not listen?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Where I get I was gonna say, I kind of
Speaker 1: remember maybe a time or two in my life where
Speaker 1: I was a little pigheaded and stubborn and I'm like, nope,
Speaker 1: not doing that, And it's like, yes you are when
Speaker 1: I hit you over the here with frying pan if
Speaker 1: you don't listen. So here's the question. Are some people
Speaker 1: more genetically predisposed or sensitive to the spiritual realm? What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 4: I do think this is a thing only because well,
Speaker 4: I know I had childhood trauma, and people could put
Speaker 4: it off on that. But even in my lineage, like
Speaker 4: I come from a long line of people, like clear
Speaker 4: back to the Huntington's and it's it's strange, like Xena
Speaker 4: Huntington is one of my very old old Mormon ancestors,
Speaker 4: and she was known as a priestess and it was
Speaker 4: before they took you know, that away from the women,
Speaker 4: and she gave more blessings that helped people than the
Speaker 4: men and anyone else. And then they took it from
Speaker 4: the women.
Speaker 1: Of course why because women are nature nurtures.
Speaker 4: Right, because they worked and they were like, damn it.
Speaker 1: Right, we don't want to we don't want to helping
Speaker 1: people for crying out loud, and who are the people
Speaker 1: that create uh, destructive things in the world. It's always
Speaker 1: a male. Women don't do that.
Speaker 4: I will give them a couple instances of like, okay,
Speaker 4: but what happened to those people beforehand? Right, like the
Speaker 4: one lady of Bathory and she.
Speaker 9: Was kind of crazy killing people, leading them all over
Speaker 9: and weirdo stuff or like you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 9: not saying women can't be nefurious, but overall, I mean
Speaker 9: we can use the podcast world for example, how often
Speaker 9: do we help up?
Speaker 4: Why are right people pushed down?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: And it's true, and it's it's because we are God's
Speaker 1: natural nurtures and so we are born to help people
Speaker 1: and lift people up and whatever. And so if you
Speaker 1: think about it in the terms of good and evil,
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, people are probably gonna lose. They're
Speaker 1: ever up and minds over this. But women tend to
Speaker 1: side on the side of good, whereas men tend to
Speaker 1: side on the side of evil because it's it's their
Speaker 1: nature to not nurture, it's their nature to repress and
Speaker 1: suppress and all of those things. And that's why, Like,
Speaker 1: if you look out through history, like all of the
Speaker 1: psychological studies that have been done that basically tormented like
Speaker 1: the participants, they've all been run by a man, you know,
Speaker 1: look at Bill Gates and what he's done. Look the
Speaker 1: vaccine manufacturers. They're typically always a male. Can there be
Speaker 1: exceptions to that? Yes, I'm not saying that men are bad,
Speaker 1: So don't get your panties all up in a twist,
Speaker 1: because I love men and we need men. But that's
Speaker 1: why there's two sides of the coin. Because we're supposed
Speaker 1: to to balance each other.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's important, it's really important, and why we're designed
Speaker 4: a specific way to have that other half to balance
Speaker 4: us too, because we're too emotional. I can't count how
Speaker 4: many times I've helped somebody up where my husband's like,
Speaker 4: why'd you do that? Say you saw it coming, like
Speaker 4: you did this before, you know better, right.
Speaker 1: But it's in your neighbor your nature to like help
Speaker 1: and help repeatedly. And that's why, like certain people are
Speaker 1: susceptible also to getting used and getting hurt in that
Speaker 1: aspect because people take advantage of that.
Speaker 5: But I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that because I'm not going to change.
Speaker 4: No. Like I told my husband the other day, I said,
Speaker 4: he's like, why do you send pictures to this one person?
Speaker 4: And I said, you know, it's not about them and
Speaker 4: what they think like or whatever they do with it,
Speaker 4: they asked me, So I do that, and I want
Speaker 4: to bless them, So I do that. And you know,
Speaker 4: it is information, it is stuff I've worked hard to
Speaker 4: get and books and things. And he's like, you know
Speaker 4: they're just going to use that, you know, And I'm
Speaker 4: like okay, And you know, if I've already presented it,
Speaker 4: is it really my job to hoard everything like it's
Speaker 4: just not not good, Like that's not goot to help
Speaker 4: people grow?
Speaker 1: So right, So we have to make a lot of
Speaker 1: decisions in our lives, right, and pick our battles and
Speaker 1: do all of the things. But that comes down to
Speaker 1: again that pineal gland and us having the ability to
Speaker 1: reason out and critically think and plan out, like if
Speaker 1: we do this, what could happen? What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: So that's two sides of the coin too, Because can
Speaker 1: women be bad shit Cuckooh yeah, but that's why again
Speaker 1: women need men and men need women for that balance
Speaker 1: and that harmony.
Speaker 5: Because that's why it was created to be.
Speaker 4: Absolutely So.
Speaker 1: Do you think that prophetic gifting is a biological trait?
Speaker 4: Not always? I think it can be, and I think,
Speaker 4: you know, it can also be acquired if if God
Speaker 4: decides to do anything with you, he can you know,
Speaker 4: I think so too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So how about do certain DNA lineages carry spiritual sensitivity?
Speaker 4: I think that might be true. I think that one
Speaker 4: might be definitely.
Speaker 1: True because how many people do you know that like
Speaker 1: most of their family are like very like in tune.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say and awake and know things
Speaker 1: that normal people wouldn't know, and you know they're not
Speaker 1: studying stuff that it just comes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a definite. I think that
Speaker 4: there's just and I think Native Americans prove that a
Speaker 4: lot of times nobody had to come tell them about
Speaker 4: God likes to do and they were like, yeah, we
Speaker 4: just figured this thing out. We don't need you, and
Speaker 4: then that caused the problem because they needed money.
Speaker 1: Right, So do you think that like with the with
Speaker 1: the lineages like that, do you think that's why there
Speaker 1: are some that have long lines of like profits or
Speaker 1: healers or whatever that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so for me, I definitely think that's
Speaker 4: I visualize that in my own family or like you'll
Speaker 4: have a heightened sense uh, Like we all have a
Speaker 4: heightened sense of smell, which is not the best thing
Speaker 4: for a nurse, but I agree there's days where I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: But like I could even smell like crazy stuff when
Speaker 1: I'm like uber congested and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it smells like whatever.
Speaker 4: And I mean it's benefited me a lot. You know,
Speaker 4: it's helped me too, But uh, you know you just
Speaker 4: I do think that's something that you know, you're either
Speaker 4: born with a lot of times and then you can
Speaker 4: develop it or you know, you you may be able to.
Speaker 4: I think you have to have a little spark in
Speaker 4: there on that particular thing.
Speaker 1: And here's the here's the question that I have or
Speaker 1: not the question, But think about this. How many times
Speaker 1: do we hear stories about like as we're younger children
Speaker 1: that had imaginary friends, right, and then of course as
Speaker 1: we age, like all that goes away, belief goes away,
Speaker 1: faith goes away or whatever. So what if that spiritual
Speaker 1: side of things and that God connection was coming through
Speaker 1: our DNA as an imaginary friend and so our body
Speaker 1: are subconscious? Is is making it so that we can understand
Speaker 1: what we're through an imaginary friend? Like, think about it
Speaker 1: in the same aspect of like Bigfoot or whatever. So
Speaker 1: if Bigfoot was actually a different kind of creature that
Speaker 1: was like uber frightening and uber scary and terrifying, demonic looking,
Speaker 1: whatever words you want to describe it, people would not
Speaker 1: be able to visually or physically handle what it really
Speaker 1: looks like. That's why it presents as a werewolf.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, yeah, the angel is the first thing they
Speaker 4: say to every person ever is do not be afraid.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why I'm wondering if if maybe the
Speaker 1: imaginary friend thing is because we still have that close
Speaker 1: connection to God when we have our innocence and all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, and that's how our body manifested in
Speaker 1: a way that we can understand. Because being that small
Speaker 1: and that little and our brains aren't developed yet, we're
Speaker 1: not going to understand like a light being, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, right.
Speaker 4: Right, So you just as like fake or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, imaginary And that's why like when we get older
Speaker 1: and the pineal gland closes and we shut off that
Speaker 1: you know, connection or whatever, and we lose that creativity
Speaker 1: and we lose that openness to be able to actually
Speaker 1: visually process mm angels and things like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see that for sure.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that made sense.
Speaker 4: Now, I get where you're going with that.
Speaker 1: So is d MT the molecule of Christmas miracles? So
Speaker 1: because it's created naturally like we talked about before, and
Speaker 1: it happens during trauma and all of those different things
Speaker 1: and the heightened stress levels in December with all the
Speaker 1: Christmas shopping and thinking about family that aren't there any more,
Speaker 1: and all of those things. So is that coupled with
Speaker 1: our circadian rhythm and our hormone balance and all of
Speaker 1: those things what cause people to see like the Star
Speaker 1: of Bethlehem during Christmas and they visualize it or that's
Speaker 1: when they have more angelic visitations or angelic messages or whatever.
Speaker 1: Is DMT the cause of that and why?
Speaker 4: I don't think so, but I think that people could think.
Speaker 1: That it's very possible. So Biblically speaking, a biblical angel
Speaker 1: is a light being and has an overwhelming presence and
Speaker 1: comes usually with a message or a warning or things
Speaker 1: like that, or telepathic communication. So kind of like we
Speaker 1: talked about touched on a little in the last show.
Speaker 1: I like to say I get downloads. It's not an
Speaker 1: actual download of information, but it like the filing cabinet
Speaker 1: got filled up when I wasn't paying attention, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting at, And it's like stuff that
Speaker 1: I have never looked into, I don't know anything about,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the information is there. Has
Speaker 1: that ever happened to you?
Speaker 4: More? I think mine is? I get led to things
Speaker 4: like you need to look at this book right, I
Speaker 4: have to read this thingy over here, and especially with
Speaker 4: the books. But it's all about how you tune in.
Speaker 4: Like I think if if you tune in, I think
Speaker 4: you could get like I mean, there are some things
Speaker 4: that are automatic where I'm like, yeah, I know that,
Speaker 4: like yeah.
Speaker 5: Why do I know that?
Speaker 4: I have? No? Yeah? Yeah, and and I just get
Speaker 4: it that fast where my Mom's like, hold on, what
Speaker 4: the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 5: And where is my God?
Speaker 4: And and it's funny, you know. Language is one of
Speaker 4: those things where Spanish for me, I did study it,
Speaker 4: but just in a book that I got at the store.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't take it. Uh. I just had a
Speaker 4: boyfriend and I didn't understand him, and he didn't understand me.
Speaker 4: And I was really young, and I thought I'm gonna
Speaker 4: figure this out. So and he wasn't my boy. I
Speaker 4: liked him, right, I want to talk to him. And
Speaker 4: so I just learned. Uh, And I started, you know, oh,
Speaker 4: I'll just do this, or I'll just watch movies or
Speaker 4: all and and and I know enough now that you know,
Speaker 4: I can stumble my way through quite a bit. Uh.
Speaker 4: And it passed on to my son who he did
Speaker 4: study it because he heard me do that. He's so fluent.
Speaker 4: He's like perfectly fluent, you know, which is really funny
Speaker 4: because he failed the English part of the exam and
Speaker 4: they questioned him when he went to go get his
Speaker 4: his bilingual interpreter thing here. He's very young and he
Speaker 4: already has that, and they said, well he was not
Speaker 4: born here, then he is not a natural citizen. And
Speaker 4: I said, he is the widest child you have ever thought.
Speaker 5: The people speak. He definitely is.
Speaker 4: I was like, sir, just send So I had to
Speaker 4: have this meeting with his counselor. I said, just send
Speaker 4: them a picture and they were laughing, and he goes, mom,
Speaker 4: it's because and I know there are people that speak
Speaker 4: Spanish in other countries. I'm teasing a little here, but
Speaker 4: that are blonde and blue eyed and all the things.
Speaker 4: But I think it's funny just in general. And the
Speaker 4: guy said, well, why did you fail? The English party said,
Speaker 4: because the computer does it for you. I actually had
Speaker 4: to learn how to conjugate these verbs. Well, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: not wrong. Well check does do it for you.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I dated somebody before that was Hispanic,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to learn better English and they're
Speaker 1: like the English language is the most difficult, complicated thing
Speaker 1: to learn, like it makes zero sense to people, and
Speaker 1: why do we have multiple ways to spell the same word?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and they're well and even so I took
Speaker 4: French forever, but I couldn't ever do it because there
Speaker 4: was a cute boy that's see, it's always the voice,
Speaker 4: a boy that sat next to me, and I just
Speaker 4: never paid attention. But when I went to France, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, like you said, who is this person?
Speaker 4: My daughter said, did you speak French to that person?
Speaker 4: And I said I think I did, and she was
Speaker 4: we were lost, and I was like, they are so
Speaker 4: rude if you try and just talk English to them
Speaker 4: at first. So they know English. Look, none of them
Speaker 4: don't like understand. They know. They just don't want to
Speaker 4: talk to you if you're not going to dress right
Speaker 4: and be nice. But so I tried and then he
Speaker 4: was like talking to me for a minute. Then he
Speaker 4: spoke in English and I was like, oh, that's great,
Speaker 4: but he was like, yeah, your French wasn't bad, and
Speaker 4: she's like, you speak French.
Speaker 5: What I was like, You're like, I have no idea
Speaker 5: where it came from. Don't know, Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 4: I did take it for a long time. I guess
Speaker 4: some of it got like you said, the download, I
Speaker 4: guess some of it went in there, you know. Or
Speaker 4: if you've ever fallen asleep with a podcast, this happens
Speaker 4: to me a lot in my ear and I'll wake
Speaker 4: up and I'm like, yeah, that totally made sense. My
Speaker 4: husband's like, did you just learning your sleep? You are
Speaker 4: freaking weird?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, And some people have that higher frequency where
Speaker 1: U and I liked it. Think of it like a sponge.
Speaker 1: You are highly absorbed sponge. Other people not so much.
Speaker 1: They're dried out dead inappropriate.
Speaker 4: Well, well that would.
Speaker 1: You need to get that sponge moist.
Speaker 4: She's been nice, Ah my mom, how do you keep
Speaker 4: all this stuff in your head? Because sometimes she'll hear
Speaker 4: me when somebody says something that you're not talking about,
Speaker 4: you know, another thing, and then I'll just and I'm
Speaker 4: She's like, why did you know that? I'm like, I
Speaker 4: just listened to it once on the podcast one hundred
Speaker 4: person listening, you know, But to learn it, really learn
Speaker 4: it good, not just a little bit. I have to
Speaker 4: stop and write it down if I really want to
Speaker 4: know something. Well, it still gets in there sometimes.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and I'm the exact same way. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why, like we talked to about a
Speaker 1: minute ago, like some people are uber sensitive to the
Speaker 1: universe or whatever you want to call it and picking
Speaker 1: up things and listening to those signals that it may
Speaker 1: not be like you're hearing voices. I don't mean that,
Speaker 1: but it's like like you said, like being led to
Speaker 1: do whatever, Like I got led in the holistic healthre yeah,
Speaker 1: and knew how to do things that I've never done before,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's just there, It's in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Katina is getting full.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: I think there is definitely that, And you know, I
Speaker 4: think that it also kind of hurts us because we
Speaker 4: can read the room and I've been told before like
Speaker 4: you're reading it wrong, and I'm like, no, I'm not right.
Speaker 1: Empathic yep.
Speaker 4: It's always something you.
Speaker 1: Can sense, uh uh. And that's why I said, like
Speaker 1: empathic in the in the sense of being in tune
Speaker 1: to things around you, kind of like I said, with childhood,
Speaker 1: you know, and having that innocence, and so when you're empathic,
Speaker 1: you have that same kind of ability or gift that
Speaker 1: we're born with. Where it's like you can feel or
Speaker 1: sense emotions or whatever. You don't even have to look
Speaker 1: at anybody in the room.
Speaker 4: You can just feel you didn't do anything. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't even like sometimes it's kind of bad because
Speaker 4: you you can call I'm very direct, so I'll say
Speaker 4: something to somebody and they'll say that's not true, like
Speaker 4: I don't feel that, but like maybe they did, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't enough to really have them even notice, Like
Speaker 4: maybe they're not.
Speaker 1: Either, or maybe they really do feel that, right, but
Speaker 1: they're not being upfront and honest.
Speaker 4: And I just think that's really unfortunate, you know, because
Speaker 4: we live in such a world that literally no one
Speaker 4: is their authentic self. And I think it scares the
Speaker 4: shit out of people when people like us just do
Speaker 4: what this is just me, like this is my life,
Speaker 4: Like if you looked me up, you would find out
Speaker 4: the same shit I already tell you, you know, like this
Speaker 4: is how it is. And so some of us don't
Speaker 4: do masks, and we don't do that well. And I'm
Speaker 4: definitely one of those people, you know. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I don't like masks. I don't like faking things. I
Speaker 4: don't right say why I don't have time for that, right.
Speaker 1: Same thing. I'm not going to bury my true identity
Speaker 1: to make somebody else, make somebody else have the happy feels,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, or make you more comfortable or whatever. And I
Speaker 4: think that is why you know, I've been number one god,
Speaker 4: but number two that is that people liked to listen
Speaker 4: because they're like, oh, this is who she really is
Speaker 4: and what you want to do. And yeah, you listen
Speaker 4: to a podcast you want to know about them.
Speaker 1: Yep, you know. And people when you don't wear that mask,
Speaker 1: people feel closer to you, They feel more connected because
Speaker 1: they feel like they know your authentic, genuine soul.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even if it's not great, like you're still
Speaker 4: gonna know me like that. I'm not saying I'm all
Speaker 4: like all but up like, there's lots of parts of
Speaker 4: me that many people don't like that I don't even like,
Speaker 4: but at least you'll know who I am. And I
Speaker 4: always go back to that Nirvana quote, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's good to just hate somebody for who they are,
Speaker 4: even if that you know, it's it's that quote, like
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, I'd rather be hated for who I
Speaker 4: am than who I'm not right, It's just I don't
Speaker 4: have that, and people are mistaken for oh, she can't
Speaker 4: keep a secret, or oh she doesn't work well with others. No,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to be brutally honest. And if you're
Speaker 4: also the same, we probably we can have a really
Speaker 4: great relation.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, hence why we're best friends.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I'm like, you know, is it really that difficult?
Speaker 4: Do you all really hide like that? Just seems exhausting
Speaker 4: to me. I can't. That was part of Mormonism, right,
Speaker 4: They were all fake and and not sorry for people,
Speaker 4: I just generalized, but many of the people I knew
Speaker 4: seemed very fake.
Speaker 1: Right, And and here's a like an example of that.
Speaker 1: What was that what was her name, Ruby?
Speaker 4: Oh you have Ruby Frankie.
Speaker 1: Where she she put the uh put on that front
Speaker 1: or that air that they had the perfect family and
Speaker 1: she was the perfect mom and like they loved each
Speaker 1: other and the kids loved each other and like whatever,
Speaker 1: and then behind the scenes her.
Speaker 4: Child was the Nazi camp survivor.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like she was that shit nuts and she
Speaker 1: was angry and she yelled at people all the time,
Speaker 1: and she abused her children and and whatever. So that
Speaker 1: that just goes to show you that like when you
Speaker 1: can let that wall down and be your authentic self,
Speaker 1: that's when you have more light that comes in.
Speaker 4: And people will love it or they will hate it.
Speaker 4: There's never an in between.
Speaker 1: And if they if they can't, if they cannot take
Speaker 1: your presence or the light that you emit, that is
Speaker 1: a you problem or them problem. That's not a you problem,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's hard. That's a hard thing because I think what
Speaker 4: you said, like, I've had it since I was a kid,
Speaker 4: since I was literally born, and it's intense for people,
Speaker 4: and I get it, like it's caused problems for me
Speaker 4: my whole life. And I watch it with my daughter
Speaker 4: and it makes me so sad because she got it
Speaker 4: a little more than the others. And my son has it,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't give up.
Speaker 5: He does not care. And then I need to check
Speaker 5: you would love him.
Speaker 4: He's just like I'm gonna do this if I want to,
Speaker 4: Like he does not. I'm like, oh boy, Sometimes I
Speaker 4: even am like ah and about.
Speaker 1: Getting to that point when the judgment of others just
Speaker 1: not bother you and I haven't.
Speaker 4: Now I am so proud that I raised him, Like
Speaker 4: I need to teach him how to cultivate a better
Speaker 4: acceptance of people, because not everybody will meet you where
Speaker 4: you are, right, so we got to get there. But
Speaker 4: like he does not do that for honey, traps don't
Speaker 4: work with him. Nothing works with him because he will
Speaker 4: stay in his lane and he's like, bitch, please. Like
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm like, oh, you cannot do that, and if
Speaker 4: I say no, it's probably bad, like because I'm pretty
Speaker 4: liberal on certain things. But like with my daughter, it's
Speaker 4: hard because she doesn't know how to rain anything back.
Speaker 4: And she's a lot like I was. And every single
Speaker 4: time when I was a kid, like I would have
Speaker 4: problems with people that you know, they just didn't like me.
Speaker 4: There was like nothing that ever happened, Like we didn't
Speaker 4: have a fight or words or like, it would just
Speaker 4: be like they didn't like.
Speaker 1: It because they cannot be around that type of energy.
Speaker 4: And I used to.
Speaker 1: Higher level and that's that's why people can't do that.
Speaker 4: It's hard though, that's a hard thing to accept. But
Speaker 4: when I got older and I started noticing more, like
Speaker 4: babies always come to me, dogs always.
Speaker 1: Because you have that that authentic innocence about you, so don't.
Speaker 4: But hard, Yeah, sometimes that's rough, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: harder honestly for her for me to watch that with her.
Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about a kid that's like got
Speaker 4: in trouble during the VID because she wanted to hug
Speaker 4: everybody too much and she just loves people, and you know,
Speaker 4: for them to just be intentionally mean because why and
Speaker 4: she doesn't understand it. And you can't teach that cruelty
Speaker 4: to somebody that doesn't think like that. You can't.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm glad there's light and dark in
Speaker 1: our society because some people have that light and they
Speaker 1: bring that light to everything around them, and other people
Speaker 1: try to bring destruction and chaos. So kind of like
Speaker 1: chaos magic, right, yeah, right, And so think of it
Speaker 1: this way, like the biblical angels and whatever that we
Speaker 1: described a while ago. So think of it on the
Speaker 1: flip side. And these are the DMT and too. So
Speaker 1: people describe seeing geometric light being so shapes right, squares
Speaker 1: and triangles and all the things. And again they have
Speaker 1: the overwhelming presence. There's a message or a cryptic teaching
Speaker 1: along with it, and telepathic communication. So this is the
Speaker 1: occult thing that I wanted to mention earlier because you
Speaker 1: and I have both done a show with this person
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of practicing of crossing the abyss
Speaker 1: and can describe to you in very vivid detail number
Speaker 1: one involving the color purple. And number two, everything in
Speaker 1: their cr over between life and death was geometric and
Speaker 1: nothing was like uniform or whatever where we would see
Speaker 1: things or process things on a daily basis. It was
Speaker 1: all these very strange shapes and patterns and whatever. But
Speaker 1: the colors and stuff. And since our body releases DMT
Speaker 1: during near death experiences or right before we die, wow there.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: anything if you want to go do that, like you
Speaker 4: know people that have done that, like who we're talking about.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he still wants that mentioned, but
Speaker 4: you know, I think that it's scary for me. Like
Speaker 4: if you want to choose to do whatever you want,
Speaker 4: but remember one thing it says in the Bible, and
Speaker 4: it says it for a reason. It's a really good
Speaker 4: warning for people that demons that never belonged here. And
Speaker 4: so I'm talking, yes, fallen angels came here and mate
Speaker 4: it with women and those things that they created, not
Speaker 4: the fallen angel. The things that they created were born
Speaker 4: illegally without the proper spirit, I believe, and when they
Speaker 4: died that first time, right, they can't go to they
Speaker 4: can't go anywhere because they are created illegally. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't a God thing. And so now
Speaker 4: it says they roam looking for a place to rest.
Speaker 4: And the scary part for that is is that when
Speaker 4: you cross into somewhere, you are a bright light because
Speaker 4: you have a spirit from God. Right, Okay, well even
Speaker 4: if you were a demon worshiper, like even if you hated.
Speaker 5: Everything else that's.
Speaker 1: Created you.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I feel like they are bringing so many
Speaker 4: things back, you know, and they it doesn't. It may
Speaker 4: help you temporarily. But like every single time I read Crowley,
Speaker 4: or I read John d or I read Let's Go
Speaker 4: out of the Occult, because people say that's a cult.
Speaker 4: Read about Joseph Smith, read about other prophets. They always
Speaker 4: talk about like these things and I'm not talking prophets
Speaker 4: in the Bible. I'm talking about false prophets. Mean big
Speaker 4: difference is they will have these horrible things like come afterward,
Speaker 4: and like it's just they'll get and then they'll get
Speaker 4: addicted to substances or whatever because they're not trying to
Speaker 4: be in this presence or they're possibly overtaken and that's scary.
Speaker 4: So you know, they can be overtaken if they don't
Speaker 4: have the light of God. I don't believe a true
Speaker 4: Christian can be overtaken by I believe they could be tortured.
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred and and well all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Well, look at Job, right, it's a perfect example because
Speaker 1: Job had uh faith stronger than anyone else and whatever,
Speaker 1: but he had all of these things that were oppressing
Speaker 1: him and causing chaos and destroying his life and everything
Speaker 1: around him, right, and so.
Speaker 4: The suffering was real, it was. And he lost all
Speaker 4: his kids in one day like that. You don't get
Speaker 4: that back. Like people talk about that and say, well
Speaker 4: he was restored. I'm like, no, you don't have the
Speaker 4: same baby again like those people that he lost. That's
Speaker 4: a real, genuine loss, Like that's forever. And so I
Speaker 4: get why he was tormented, you know, And I mean
Speaker 4: and it was allowed. We read about why right things
Speaker 4: are allowed to occur, right, but we do have got
Speaker 4: to turn to and faith is like the main thing,
Speaker 4: like it is, and protect yourself like put on that
Speaker 4: armor of God, like do those things and see if
Speaker 4: your life isn't different. Like that is why no matter
Speaker 4: how much I learn, no matter and people will say
Speaker 4: to me, you know all this stuff, you know, how
Speaker 4: how do you still believe in the Bible Because it's
Speaker 4: just this.
Speaker 5: Or it's an allegory or it's a code for the direction.
Speaker 1: It's made up it's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or or that was you know, used for this
Speaker 4: reason this. I'm like, okay, but I know what it
Speaker 4: is for me, Like I have been close to death
Speaker 4: multiple times, and there's nothing that can take my faith.
Speaker 4: There's just no way.
Speaker 1: Right one hundred person. And so think of this, like
Speaker 1: for people who are choosing to go on these unnatural
Speaker 1: trips with d MT. If you just found out today
Speaker 1: that your body manufactures it anyway on a regular basis,
Speaker 1: why and the ever loving Hale would you need to
Speaker 1: go outside of that for a synthetic experience something that
Speaker 1: was not you know, God created that is outside of you.
Speaker 1: Why would you need to go outside of that for
Speaker 1: an extra experience? Because, like Heidi said, you're a light,
Speaker 1: You're going to attract things. So think of yourself as
Speaker 1: a magnet, so you're going to pull all of that
Speaker 1: magnetic energy right back to you. And so you're crossing
Speaker 1: over into places that you should not be.
Speaker 4: Because you may not be where you think you are,
Speaker 4: either univers the things that are the abyss or whatever
Speaker 4: that is closest to us is the lowest realm. You
Speaker 4: have no idea where you're going. And I can tell
Speaker 4: you this, the benevolent things are not low, They're not.
Speaker 5: So up.
Speaker 1: Like every time everybody's ever said, oh, you should try
Speaker 1: it once, my answer has always been the same. I
Speaker 1: don't need to try it because I already know who
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 4: And I mean, if you want to do it, that's fine,
Speaker 4: but just be aware you may not be the same afterward,
Speaker 4: like even with ketamine, even with these things that they're
Speaker 4: doing for people to treat them. And I'm not talking
Speaker 4: like externally or anything. I'm talking about like ivy. I'm
Speaker 4: talking I'm talking about serious doses, Okay, because I do
Speaker 4: think there's some things topically that I mean, we we
Speaker 4: do absorb it, but it's a different thing. You're not
Speaker 4: going to get high if you rub like certain things
Speaker 4: on your body because it's different and everybody's different anyway,
Speaker 4: But I do think at the level they give you
Speaker 4: when it goes directly into the bloodstream in an ivy whatever,
Speaker 4: unless you have severe trauma and you know what you're
Speaker 4: getting into and you're prepared for that, you better be
Speaker 4: prepared to live with the consequences of getting those memories back,
Speaker 4: because with the good comes the bad. God has put
Speaker 4: that mechanism there for you, like for me, especially because
Speaker 4: I have traumatic amnesia from like trauma, like.
Speaker 1: From some stuff, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I share that and I'm fine with that,
Speaker 4: but I also don't need to delve further into that
Speaker 4: to know that that happened, Like I know, like, how
Speaker 4: much further do I need to know to know? Like
Speaker 4: I'm good? Like I know it's there. We learn, we grow,
Speaker 4: We you know, if I was still having more issues
Speaker 4: from it and hadn't developed, you know, through God, you
Speaker 4: know that was the thing that changed me. Is honestly
Speaker 4: my dog and God. Like my daughter said to me
Speaker 4: the other day, she said, Mom, the changes in you
Speaker 4: came so much after huge trauma. So I'm assuming you know,
Speaker 4: some of this stuff going on naturally in my body
Speaker 4: and then you know, I got a dog and then
Speaker 4: I delved into the Bible and it was all at
Speaker 4: the same time, right, And she was like, it was
Speaker 4: so crazy watching you change. And then she said and
Speaker 4: then when you had your first grandchild, it just was
Speaker 4: She's like, it's been actually cool to see you change again.
Speaker 4: She's like, I mean you were always She's like, I
Speaker 4: love you. You're still much you know. I mean she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I love you. You're my mom. But like the things
Speaker 4: that changed in you were radical.
Speaker 1: It was like, and it should be that way, right,
Speaker 1: and it should be when you have an actual true awakening.
Speaker 4: Type you should accident, I mean, that does happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that could have happened, you know. So to say God
Speaker 4: doesn't sometimes make people crazy, because sometimes I think he does,
Speaker 4: Like he uses what right, I mean the one I
Speaker 4: can't remember who who what Nicodemus that had to go
Speaker 4: live like a goat for a while.
Speaker 10: But it's true though, because every trial and turmoil is
Speaker 10: meant to strengthen your character and strengthen your faith and
Speaker 10: resolve right, and sometimes like why are people born with
Speaker 10: deformities or why are people injured in accidents or whatever?
Speaker 1: When he could prevent it happening. Here's the thing. You
Speaker 1: will never experience any kind of growth in your life
Speaker 1: unless you have some kind of chaos or turmoil that
Speaker 1: you have to come out of. So maybe you're an
Speaker 1: uber vain person and you're all about your looks all
Speaker 1: the time and you get in a horrific accident and
Speaker 1: your face is burned or something, and what is the
Speaker 1: lesson to be learned in that?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: You have to learn to adapt and overcome and not
Speaker 1: be concerned with worldly things and you know, judgment from
Speaker 1: other people. You should be reflecting and word, what kind
Speaker 1: of people are you on the inside?
Speaker 4: And God has catered that for your life, right, not
Speaker 4: that he makes the challenge, but he knows. You know,
Speaker 4: everything is a court in this world. It's either allowed
Speaker 4: or not allowed. Like that is that is the whole
Speaker 4: point of job. Like you listen to job, people are like,
Speaker 4: why did job get tortured? And God was okay with it?
Speaker 4: Some thinks he is okay with but he also knows
Speaker 4: like our breaking point and that's why things are weighed
Speaker 4: and judged, you know, right, And he says, don't try
Speaker 4: and think like him, like I don't know, but that
Speaker 4: is your catering, and I think he knows what's on
Speaker 4: the other side, right, Like he knows absolutely what we
Speaker 4: could become, and so he hopes will endoor to the end,
Speaker 4: which is like what we're supposed to do, but not
Speaker 4: just lay there like come on like that, that's not.
Speaker 1: It, Like how do you how do you use the
Speaker 1: chaos or trauma or turmoil that you went through to
Speaker 1: not only make a change instead of yourself but inside
Speaker 1: of other people?
Speaker 4: Right, That's why I called my show. That's why people
Speaker 4: always ask me your show. His name is a little weird.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, right, because that's your warning. Unfiltered is
Speaker 4: the warning if you watch me. Sorry, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1: You know, like you're at your own risk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I might cuss, I might say some crazy offhand thing.
Speaker 4: I might say a wrong word and wrong think, and
Speaker 4: I don't no whatever, I'm not going to do catering
Speaker 4: to that. So that's what that is. And rise because
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, I have been a victim half my
Speaker 4: life if you want to define it, but I choose
Speaker 4: not write that. I should be on a corner somewhere
Speaker 4: selling myself with the life I had. Okay, Like I'm
Speaker 4: not ever and nor will I ever nor have I
Speaker 4: ever been that because I saw the chaos around me
Speaker 4: and said, this is not my life. I will not
Speaker 4: be this.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be better and whatever. And that's
Speaker 1: what we should all be striving to do.
Speaker 4: But not just for myself, for others too, right, because
Speaker 4: if you stop there, then you're an asshole. Right.
Speaker 1: So with the with the holidays and all of that
Speaker 1: stuff and the emotional triggers and whatever whatever. So a
Speaker 1: lot of times people will experience where they sense a
Speaker 1: loved one, hear a loved one, smell a loved one,
Speaker 1: or you know, something like that. And I want to
Speaker 1: say that a lot of people put a lot of
Speaker 1: stock in the fact if they lost somebody and they
Speaker 1: see a cardinal around the holidays, a cardinal always reminds
Speaker 1: them of their loved one, like it's their loved one
Speaker 1: coming to visit. And so do people also believe that
Speaker 1: the lost loved one rein incarnates or whatever or comes
Speaker 1: back as an angel to talk to them.
Speaker 4: Hopefully not, because hopefully you read your scriptures and you
Speaker 4: know absence of the body is presence with the Lord. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remind us to my mom because she has a
Speaker 4: hard time because we've lost so many people and it
Speaker 4: is hard. It is. But I also tell her that
Speaker 4: doesn't mean he doesn't see you. It just means you
Speaker 4: know that we know that he is somewhere better and
Speaker 4: that we have to let go. That is part of overcoming.
Speaker 4: That is why death happens in stages, right, and we
Speaker 4: don't all die at the same time. Like, we have
Speaker 4: to learn that everything you're given as a gift and
Speaker 4: kenon will be taken away time and God says though,
Speaker 4: don't ever live your life like in regret, but also
Speaker 4: try not to look back too much on that pass
Speaker 4: like and live in that past because you see people
Speaker 4: do that, you know right that overtakes their life. Doesn't
Speaker 4: mean you don't remember that, yeah, but just remember the
Speaker 4: familiar spirits in the Bible know everything. They know your
Speaker 4: heart's desire, they know what you want. They know so
Speaker 4: much about you, and they know how to get what
Speaker 4: they want to.
Speaker 1: I was going to say a little bit of manipulation
Speaker 1: from the other side, because what did they do cause death,
Speaker 1: chaos or restruction, and so do they quote unquote reincarnate
Speaker 1: or show themselves as a lost loved one or whatever? Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: maybe they do, so be very careful of what you're
Speaker 1: looking at.
Speaker 4: Right, and they're lower level. This isn't even the good stuff.
Speaker 4: Just remember, like the occultists will tell you if you
Speaker 4: want to go read them, we'll talk to you all
Speaker 4: about what it is. And even they say, don't fuck
Speaker 4: with it, and we still do.
Speaker 1: Right, Bananas, and you know, because we were hard headed
Speaker 1: and we don't listen.
Speaker 4: So bananas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So onto the Star of Bethlehem. Celestial, symbolic or psychedelic.
Speaker 1: So we know from a traditional sense and the biblical sense.
Speaker 1: In Matthew two one through twelve, it was the story
Speaker 1: of the magi that were guided from the east to
Speaker 1: where Jesus was born. It was a celestial sign announcing
Speaker 1: the birth of the king. So in traditional explanations, it's
Speaker 1: because Jupiter and Saturn planetary conjunction, or Jupiter and Venus
Speaker 1: from a comet or a supernova or rare astronomical events
Speaker 1: that are visible four months could have created the Star
Speaker 1: of Bethlehem. The mystical take on the things is it's
Speaker 1: a light in the sky, an awakening with humanity. A
Speaker 1: star is the symbol of guidance, intuition, and internal revelation.
Speaker 1: The biological theory is that ancient people were more connected
Speaker 1: to nature's frequencies, which yes, they were, because now we're
Speaker 1: concerned with cell phones and iPads and iPods and all
Speaker 1: the electronics and stuff, and we don't pay attention to nature.
Speaker 1: We don't pay attention to our surroundings or anything. So
Speaker 1: I definitely believe that. Also, it says strong celestial alignment
Speaker 1: with the electromagnetic field of shifts, or humans feel those
Speaker 1: shifts physically and spiritually. So biblically speaking, people are now
Speaker 1: talking and think that the Magi were actually astrologers from
Speaker 1: either Babylon or Persia, and to them, Jupiter King Regulus
Speaker 1: meant royal star, and Virgo was the Virgin, and so
Speaker 1: that's where they come to the conclusion that they must
Speaker 1: have all been astronomers. But whichever way you look at it,
Speaker 1: where it's whether it's biblical, traditional, mystical, or biological, they
Speaker 1: all kind of have the same thing in common is
Speaker 1: that it's Star Bethlehem as a guiding force. So some
Speaker 1: cultures see the Star of Bethlehem as either awakening your
Speaker 1: Christ's consciousness divine light or incarnates into human form. And
Speaker 1: so some people believe that the Star of Bethlehem is
Speaker 1: actually an angel watching over us and could like take
Speaker 1: human form when need be. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying some cultures believe that, so it is
Speaker 1: what it is. So examples of like the solar's flares
Speaker 1: or the comments or or whatever. If you ever heard
Speaker 1: people like we talked about before, acting crazy on a
Speaker 1: full moon or during the human residence, it's because again,
Speaker 1: those frequencies shift. And so they'll tell you a lot
Speaker 1: of times too, when those energy shifts happen, that you'll
Speaker 1: notice your animals like.
Speaker 4: And everything does labor.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, everything gets crazy and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: and this maybe like tm I for people, but if
Speaker 1: you work with a bunch of women, you cycles wellculate
Speaker 1: and everybody will be on their cycles at the same time.
Speaker 4: They all live together.
Speaker 1: And so I bring that up because if you're thinking
Speaker 1: about like everything going into labor at the same time,
Speaker 1: or everybody's frequency shifting, it is believed to be like
Speaker 1: a reset for us. And so it's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be something that we're supposed to be scared of. When
Speaker 1: the energy shifts, it's God working to shift us all
Speaker 1: back to the state of consciousness that we're supposed to
Speaker 1: be having. But it does reset it definitely, it's the
Speaker 1: reset button, but it makes some people fry instead of
Speaker 1: reset you know, your hard drive.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oopsie, sorry, I.
Speaker 1: Smell something burning.
Speaker 5: It's just my neighbor.
Speaker 4: It's just you know, it's just my ears and my
Speaker 4: hair and my brain.
Speaker 1: So think of it this way. Does this dark Bethlehem
Speaker 1: actually or could it have actually caused a global peneal
Speaker 1: gland awakening? So does that happen around this same time
Speaker 1: like every year, because again he's trying to reset things.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's possible?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I think that that's why everything's off
Speaker 4: with the Gregorian calendar, because it's supposed to be how
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be, like the way he designed it,
Speaker 4: not the way we designed it. And they did that
Speaker 4: shit on.
Speaker 1: Purpose, son Persa. So if you think about like angels
Speaker 1: as interdimensional messagers, and like I said, our mRNA is
Speaker 1: that messenger sequence between us and gods, and I get
Speaker 1: the angels coming in. But if you compare all the
Speaker 1: religious text with the modern phenomena and people describing them
Speaker 1: as you know, light beings or messenger carriers they're like
Speaker 1: celestial heavenly, so they don't have physical bodies. They appear
Speaker 1: suddenly out of nowhere. Some people describe them as shape shifters.
Speaker 1: To me, that's a little different. That makes me think
Speaker 1: of something completely different When you say shape shifter, I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: That makes me interdimensional being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, like it doesn't make me think
Speaker 1: of heavenly, you know what I'm saying. And of course
Speaker 1: that like esp where they're communicating with you through thought.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but that makes me a little.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 1: There is a theory called the Philosopher's Stone, and what
Speaker 1: that is is times when the spirit and the matter
Speaker 1: around us unite, and they think that that is what
Speaker 1: causes people to see the Star of Bethlehem or to
Speaker 1: see angels appear or whatever, or they feel off I
Speaker 1: guess during the holiday time. So I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: I think about that. But if you're uniting with matter
Speaker 1: around you again, I would be very careful what you're
Speaker 1: putting out into the universe because you're going to track
Speaker 1: that right back. So if you're putting out demonic messages,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to get that back threefold. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I'm saying to be careful, gotta be careful stuff.
Speaker 1: So anyway, to me, this stuff is uber interesting and
Speaker 1: where these things really come from? And so me, I
Speaker 1: think because I love the brain and I love to
Speaker 1: think about like our subconscious and the way it protects us,
Speaker 1: you know, and all of those things. So do you
Speaker 1: think that our subconscious could be like an over ride
Speaker 1: for our emotions or whatever to get us to understand
Speaker 1: things that we don't understand, but in a more simplified way,
Speaker 1: kind of like I talked about with like you know,
Speaker 1: seeing like Bigfoot or whatever, and the way that we
Speaker 1: actually would see it would scare the hell of us,
Speaker 1: so we interpret it a different way. So do you
Speaker 1: think it's possible for the same thing to happen with
Speaker 1: angelic stuff or people thinking they're seeing like the Star
Speaker 1: of Bethlehem.
Speaker 4: I have a hard time with the angel thing because
Speaker 4: I think that they're so militant if you get sent
Speaker 4: a real angel, and I don't think God would want
Speaker 4: to confuse it by making it like less like less
Speaker 4: scary like God sent, you know, because the ones that
Speaker 4: were sent by God did scare the shit out of
Speaker 4: people because they were like, hey, don't freak out, But
Speaker 4: I've got this message right, right. They didn't. They didn't
Speaker 4: obfuscate themselves. They could have just showed up as something different.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there was one instance where they did,
Speaker 4: and then people still lost it after them anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was the one with Sodom. In Sodom, but it
Speaker 4: didn't work right. Everybody, like it was like this weird
Speaker 4: thing and everybody was weirdly attracted still in all this
Speaker 4: strange stuff.
Speaker 1: So well, that's understandable. They're like, oh, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like that guy. It's like that Geico commercial with the
Speaker 1: raccoons that are like eating out the trash and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gross. You should taste it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like in Sodom, grosser and.
Speaker 4: More weird the worst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh, this is kind of sexually turning
Speaker 1: me on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we still have those people today unfortunately. But
Speaker 4: I don't think that the real ones can really hide
Speaker 4: it or anything like. It didn't work, Like even though
Speaker 4: they were human in the like, it didn't work. And
Speaker 4: so I think that there would be a hard path,
Speaker 4: like you wouldn't be able to do that. I don't think.
Speaker 4: And with God, I think he's, like I said, very
Speaker 4: specific with things. It wouldn't be like so like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna come back seventy two times and maybe you'll catch
Speaker 4: it by the end of this and then you'll have
Speaker 4: your friends sleep with your wife. Like I just can't see.
Speaker 5: The whole veer to.
Speaker 4: The left, like WHOA what happened there? Like I just
Speaker 4: I mean, I think deep down they probably had an inkling.
Speaker 4: Whereas the angels come in, it's always they get the
Speaker 4: business done right away. They're never here for a long time, right,
Speaker 4: They're not like, oh, I'm gonna chill here for a
Speaker 4: couple thousand years. And you know, even the ones that
Speaker 4: you know come they just it's it's a quick thing,
Speaker 4: like here, here's your shit and let me.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it's possible And I don't
Speaker 1: want to like diminish this time of year for certain
Speaker 1: people that you know, holidays are hard or whatever, But
Speaker 1: do you think that it's possible that when they see
Speaker 1: or think they're hearing like a past on loved one
Speaker 1: talking to them, or they're seeing, you know, the Star
Speaker 1: of Bethlehem, or they're seeing all of these things right
Speaker 1: around the holiday time or whatever. Do you think that
Speaker 1: there is some kind of like possible weakness or whatever
Speaker 1: in their in their defenses, that's something glowing, some kind
Speaker 1: of manipulation to go.
Speaker 4: I think something happens during this time of year, because
Speaker 4: even if we look at saturn Elia, even if look
Speaker 4: at and they did, they did Christmas at this time
Speaker 4: of year on purpose, and it's not the right time
Speaker 4: because we know that Mary and Joseph were going to
Speaker 4: pay their taxes. That's why they were writing with her
Speaker 4: very gravely pregnant at the wrong like it's it's all
Speaker 4: the wrong timing. And they did this on purpose because
Speaker 4: intention matters, and they use it. Whether you're a gnostic
Speaker 4: Christian or not at all Christian, most people do celebrate
Speaker 4: Christmas in somehow or another, even Hanukkahs similarly aligned, even
Speaker 4: though they don't believe in that. You know, it's all
Speaker 4: the same timeframe as saturn Elio, which used to be
Speaker 4: really sketchy. I think I'm going to put this out
Speaker 4: as my Christmas episode because I think this will be
Speaker 4: a good, a good little breakdown for people, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's still uplifting because we always tie it up good.
Speaker 4: But I think that you know, there is something to
Speaker 4: that full coordination of minds, whether it's just on past
Speaker 4: loved ones or Jesus or miracles or whatever that is
Speaker 4: for people during this time frame and this alignment, which
Speaker 4: I'm guessing it's astrology, because you know tillionaires study the stars, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: I mean they know they know all this. This is
Speaker 4: why they send their kids to mystery schools. That You're
Speaker 4: never going to understand half of this shit, and neither
Speaker 4: will I. Like I try, and I could try till
Speaker 4: the day I die, and we will still never know.
Speaker 4: There will always be mysteries, right, even for them, right,
Speaker 4: But ultimately they know certain things are going to affect
Speaker 4: people at certain times of the year. I do think
Speaker 4: this is monopolized for a reason, and I think it's
Speaker 4: really an important time frame for us to switch it
Speaker 4: around and try to make it good, which I do
Speaker 4: think think that might have been the thought process, Like
Speaker 4: if I could put myself in an old timey prophet brain, right,
Speaker 4: like what are you gonna do with this? Like this crazy,
Speaker 4: horrible saturn ellity is a whole nother level of some
Speaker 4: wicked shit, right, So I think they were like, we've
Speaker 4: got to get this debauchery under control. But the other
Speaker 4: people were like, we're still going to do our shit,
Speaker 4: so whatever, Like they everybody went along to get along
Speaker 4: because they were like, yeah, we're just gonna go underground
Speaker 4: and they're.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they were Canadians right where they would never
Speaker 1: say anything bad about anything, just doing it.
Speaker 4: And that's to this day. Like if you go talk to,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that's completely into the occult, they're not
Speaker 4: going to say shit bad about Christianity. In fact, you'll
Speaker 4: probably find them in pastor positions or top level positions
Speaker 4: because they want them there. If you ever want to
Speaker 4: know the Bible really well, just go talk to like
Speaker 4: a Satanic devil worshiper person. And I don't mean like
Speaker 4: antoma ay, I mean for real. You know, they know
Speaker 4: it better than you. They count on that, They count
Speaker 4: on knowing it better than you, because that's the weakness
Speaker 4: they They can't keep it all because it's against remember
Speaker 4: that whole legal business. Like I don't I do think
Speaker 4: they've obvious gated the Bible. I think they've put parts
Speaker 4: of it away. I think they've changed word. I know
Speaker 4: they've changed words. They changed the devil my name of
Speaker 4: God to Lord, which is not good per se, but
Speaker 4: he knows our hearts right, like he still knows, and
Speaker 4: so it doesn't always work because that that legal skill.
Speaker 4: Once again, as much evil as in the world, the
Speaker 4: devil knows to play fair and to really keep those souls,
Speaker 4: you have to put the good out there so you
Speaker 4: can actually have the person turn around and give you
Speaker 4: the finger to God and like then he gets them forever. Right,
Speaker 4: That's that's the wind. The wind isn't like I'm just
Speaker 4: going to trick them forever. That's not a win.
Speaker 1: So do you think with this this whole, like you know,
Speaker 1: winter season and some people think it's the reset frequency reset,
Speaker 1: you know, bringing us closer to God or whatever. But
Speaker 1: because there's so much like sadness and destruction and you know,
Speaker 1: depression and all these things that go on during the
Speaker 1: winter months, do you think it's really a reset or
Speaker 1: do you think it is a shift from what was
Speaker 1: good the rest of the year into like a bad season.
Speaker 4: Well, and it's not even really the end of the
Speaker 4: year if you really know, like April first, the new year,
Speaker 4: but that is the quarter these quarter quills, right, these
Speaker 4: magical things that people know that are in the know,
Speaker 4: and it is the last quarter okay of the year,
Speaker 4: and I think they're setting it up for a great,
Speaker 4: big high, right, Like that's what Christmas is for me.
Speaker 4: Christmas time for me is so much better than Christmas.
Speaker 4: I do not really Christmas is great, but like I
Speaker 4: can take it or leave it. I love to do
Speaker 4: things for others. I like to coordinate the dinner, or
Speaker 4: coordinate the pictures, or coordinate you know, you know, the
Speaker 4: happy things, like all these nice things. The season is
Speaker 4: what I love. And then they know that this is
Speaker 4: like going to for most of us. Now, not all
Speaker 4: because some people live in Arizona where it's not terribly
Speaker 4: bad part you know whatever, but they know that for
Speaker 4: a lot of people, this is going to go into
Speaker 4: some like really bitterly cold, crappy months where you can't
Speaker 4: do anything, okay, right. I think that they put you
Speaker 4: on that high for you to like crash and burn.
Speaker 4: And we start it with New Year's by like getting
Speaker 4: uber drunk and being like screwing our bodies over and
Speaker 4: then you're just sick and everything gets all messed up
Speaker 4: in your head and you feel like shit for like
Speaker 4: three days, and like nobody feels that great after like
Speaker 4: that amount of party. Okay, that's just not the real
Speaker 4: like even if you're young and you can do it
Speaker 4: again tomorrow, like like there's chemicals. Yeah, there's shit going
Speaker 4: on in your brain that you just don't realize yet.
Speaker 4: But and we all moved through the motions and then
Speaker 4: there's nothing for like clear and tell, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: Valentine's But how depressing is that for everybody that doesn't
Speaker 4: have a person, you know, like they died or they're
Speaker 4: single or whatever. Then that's sad for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: You know, the couples kind of get a little strength
Speaker 4: and like I said, they gotta let us have some wins.
Speaker 4: They always gotta, you know, do that tiny little okay,
Speaker 4: you know, and so they do what they can, and
Speaker 4: then there's nothing really else think about it, Claire until
Speaker 4: wyn Easter. I mean, so I can think of and
Speaker 4: so I think they do this on purpose, and that's
Speaker 4: my thoughts. But you know, then it's the new awakening
Speaker 4: because it's spring. Right, it's all with the more pagan
Speaker 4: like people just need to look at some of those things.
Speaker 4: But right, and and not everything is bad. Look, not
Speaker 4: all knowledge is bad. Like the Pagans knew some shit
Speaker 4: and then they still do like they do. But like
Speaker 4: if we look at what is important to them, you'll
Speaker 4: see that come along, right, And it's the continuous So
Speaker 4: the Golden Bough comes to mind. It's the continuous killing
Speaker 4: of the king, right rights the birth and read you know,
Speaker 4: it's the re killing and you've got the death and
Speaker 4: the sadnus and then the rebirth. And it's like it's
Speaker 4: like that of the world for me, Like I see that.
Speaker 4: But people that don't know any of that shit, like
Speaker 4: what do they see? I know because I was one
Speaker 4: before twenty twenty. That was me. And yeah, you get
Speaker 4: like weirdly sad after the holidays because there isn't really
Speaker 4: a lot to look forward to, you know, for all
Speaker 4: these months. Whereas if you really learn to harness what
Speaker 4: you have and use that time, like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be stuck inside, but what a great time to cozy
Speaker 4: up and read a.
Speaker 1: Book, right, I think a lot of books to that point.
Speaker 1: Like it's a good thing to really focus your energy
Speaker 1: and attention during that particular season because like, like we
Speaker 1: talked about, like everything is heightened for a lot of
Speaker 1: people and their depressions out of control and they feel
Speaker 1: awful and whatever goes your body is all out of regulation.
Speaker 1: So since your eyes and your eye tissue has a huge,
Speaker 1: huge amount to do with processing and manufacturing DMT, and
Speaker 1: DMT works to regulate your hormones and all of those things.
Speaker 1: Think about how many people like during the winter season,
Speaker 1: never go outside, never look at the sunlight, and then
Speaker 1: what happens to your body. You are depressed, you are sick,
Speaker 1: you're you're achy, your joints are like everything goes in
Speaker 1: the shitter, and it's because you're not making enough DMT.
Speaker 4: Well and you're not channeling. And when I say channeling,
Speaker 4: not like new ag channel right, you're not putting your
Speaker 4: efforts into things that can be done. This is your
Speaker 4: time to a positive rh or bake a cake for
Speaker 4: your neighbor or go visiting, like these are the things
Speaker 4: they used to do. Right now they're mundane, but they
Speaker 4: still need to be done, and so that is really
Speaker 4: your time to take that. And I've always enjoyed winter
Speaker 4: because summer is too hot for me. Winter is a
Speaker 4: nice time for me. But I always loved reading, so
Speaker 4: it was never like a horrible thing for me to
Speaker 4: be stuck in the house, you know, in the house.
Speaker 1: But then again, if you if you don't have that
Speaker 1: open penneal gland, right, then you're not critically thinking and
Speaker 1: you're not being creative and you're just literally dwelling in
Speaker 1: your sadness your emotions, and people get very complacent and
Speaker 1: lazy in the winter.
Speaker 4: Yes, and then walking like I know not everybody has
Speaker 4: a dog, but like walking your dog, like that still
Speaker 4: happens every day for us, like all these little things
Speaker 4: like going as oh you gotta walk them. You know,
Speaker 4: whatever it does, it improves your mood, like if you
Speaker 4: don't have a dog. Older people like used to my grandpa,
Speaker 4: whether it was cold or not, he would go out
Speaker 4: there and walk every morning like.
Speaker 1: Same walkwork, yeah, yep, same and I and I have
Speaker 1: to and it's like I need that. I always say,
Speaker 1: that's like my battery pack, right or my booster pack
Speaker 1: is is being able to go outside because that's my
Speaker 1: time to recharge. And so I got to have that connection,
Speaker 1: and I guess now I know it's because it makes
Speaker 1: me make DMT. Yes naturally though then I can be
Speaker 1: on my own personal trip. But something I made and
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go have it grown in fungus
Speaker 1: or anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who even knows anymore what they're doing with that
Speaker 4: could be scary.
Speaker 1: So no, one of the interesting things that people talk
Speaker 1: about during the winter months. And that's why I kind
Speaker 1: of ask you before if if you think the winter
Speaker 1: months are a positive thing as far as frequency and
Speaker 1: energy goes, or if you think it's a reset to
Speaker 1: a negative type of frequency, because during that, you know,
Speaker 1: during the winter months, that's when a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like really focused on angel numbers and they keep
Speaker 1: seeing like seven and everywhere, and they look at the
Speaker 1: clock and it's got a seven, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: seven people in the line at this door whatever. It's
Speaker 1: like repeating, and so they're having all these little synchronicities
Speaker 1: going on, and they have like these like thoughts of
Speaker 1: our intuitive like little things about stuff, or they're having
Speaker 1: like vivid prophetic dreams, or you know, lots of instances
Speaker 1: a deja vu and whatever, things that normally wouldn't happen
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, but people report like during the
Speaker 1: winter months that like really heightens for them. So do
Speaker 1: you think it's possible that that's a reset for an
Speaker 1: energy energy shift? But not in a good way.
Speaker 4: I think it is the end of it right, Like
Speaker 4: I think the weird negative energy shift starts in like
Speaker 4: October is well, probably on the equinox that will go
Speaker 4: September right in the September and then it and it
Speaker 4: goes until you know, this is so I think this
Speaker 4: is like the hype, like I said, And especially if
Speaker 4: you do have like family that you do love and
Speaker 4: you're not going crazy with them and they go home
Speaker 4: and everything's kind of let down. You know, you're like,
Speaker 4: oh man, I miss my mom. And even if she
Speaker 4: drove you crazy, you're probably still like, damn, I kind
Speaker 4: of miss her now she drove me crazy, but I
Speaker 4: liked it or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, do you live in sodom?
Speaker 4: Right? It makes me oh my god, man, And and
Speaker 4: you do still think about them, because even if somebody
Speaker 4: gets on your last nerve, you're like, damn, I miss that,
Speaker 4: Like if you love them, if if you truly have
Speaker 4: a love for a person, you can do that. You
Speaker 4: can love and not like them very much at the
Speaker 4: same time. But you know, all of all of that
Speaker 4: stuff is rapping. So I do think this season is
Speaker 4: definitely a darker time, not only physically right, but metaphorically speaking.
Speaker 4: And I do think it's probably why we do naturally
Speaker 4: make more melatonin during these months, which makes sense, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's.
Speaker 1: Probably meant to hibernate.
Speaker 4: I think it's like that, you know, we're supposed to rest.
Speaker 4: We're supposed to like do these things that you wouldn't
Speaker 4: normally stop to do, Like you're not going to normally
Speaker 4: stop and feel okay about reading a book if there's
Speaker 4: ten thousand things that need to be done on a
Speaker 4: spring day, you're it gives you more that energetic feeling
Speaker 4: of get up now and go do the shit like
Speaker 4: and I think it's those planting things in our literal souls,
Speaker 4: like oh, you've got to do this so you can
Speaker 4: eat when this harvest comes in, you know, Like I
Speaker 4: do think God programmed us, you know, for obviously a
Speaker 4: much different living than what we have, but nevertheless we
Speaker 4: have to do something with it. And it is a
Speaker 4: wonderful time, like whenever I'm like, oh man, everybody's going
Speaker 4: to be gone, Like create Ganet's been around me enough
Speaker 4: to know I'll just spit stuff out and she writes
Speaker 4: it down and it's a good thing because I.
Speaker 5: Don't remember.
Speaker 1: Because her mouth goes like a Flapperona Goose is out.
Speaker 1: I remember five minutes later.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely right, and so I mean and and the
Speaker 4: good part about that is I might give us some
Speaker 4: really great ideas.
Speaker 1: I probably write, yeah, but I do think all of
Speaker 1: us can do that.
Speaker 4: I think like, oh, this is your time to really
Speaker 4: get ready to recharge yourself into that new year. Which
Speaker 4: is why I think weirdly we make, you know, resolutions,
Speaker 4: where the hell that come from? All this weird stuff
Speaker 4: that we do mean something. Any tradition that you are
Speaker 4: talked into, it comes from something nefarious, are good one
Speaker 4: way or the other, and usually it's bad and they're
Speaker 4: trying to counteract it with a good Unfortunately, sadly it's
Speaker 4: mostly Babylonian shit.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, make your own traditions and
Speaker 1: don't follow that stuff.
Speaker 4: And even if you do, like I love tradition because
Speaker 4: I always tell my kids I didn't have that, Like,
Speaker 4: my family wasn't big into certain things. So I made
Speaker 4: that for my family because I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna change this. And my kids would just freak out
Speaker 4: if I didn't do certain things because they're like, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, mom, we always do this, you know, and
Speaker 4: they like it. And I like that they can count
Speaker 4: on me for that. But also you know, there are
Speaker 4: times for you where you need to push through the
Speaker 4: hard and people now unfortunately and sadly get to a
Speaker 4: point where they would rather not be here or they
Speaker 4: would just like to end it all or not do
Speaker 4: the things or whatever that is. And I get that feeling,
Speaker 4: but I think our ancestors had more of that, like
Speaker 4: like with you know, these mind altering things, like where
Speaker 4: it gives you that to push through, Like you're not
Speaker 4: really supposed to come back if this happened to you,
Speaker 4: so right supposed to give you the ump to get
Speaker 4: through the scary thing, probably to go to God. Okay,
Speaker 4: like there's some process here, but with people going in
Speaker 4: and out, I mean, you know, I don't think we're
Speaker 4: supposed to be doing poke the monkey with God, but whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I will not take my chances with that.
Speaker 4: But that's sad, yeah exactly, because there's obviously something in
Speaker 4: between the good and here we got to get through,
Speaker 4: so like all of that matters, and I definitely see that.
Speaker 4: But like, you can also create good things within yourself
Speaker 4: without drugs, like I know, it's it's amazing without right mind.
Speaker 1: Altering without without genetically modified.
Speaker 4: I'm growing in. Yeah, I'm not against having a glass
Speaker 4: of wine or like beer or something, but when you
Speaker 4: know that you're a slave to something, and I really
Speaker 4: don't care what that is. Sugar, it could.
Speaker 1: Be inting, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Food is a really big one. Although I don't think
Speaker 4: Americans are quite as gorgey as they say. I just
Speaker 4: think they're feeding us the worst things period to make
Speaker 4: us sicker than the rest, because there's something about us
Speaker 4: which is, you know, probably a good thing. But figure
Speaker 4: out that something about you. But also don't just keep
Speaker 4: it to yourself. Look, that's the same thing with podcasting
Speaker 4: that I hate is people will say, don't talk to
Speaker 4: this person or don't talk to that person or this
Speaker 4: or that, and then everybody harnesses one thing and then
Speaker 4: you just see it regurgitated on twenty seven podcasts.
Speaker 1: Right like Oncent. That's why, like I really respect what
Speaker 1: we do because I have never heard what we do
Speaker 1: on any other show before. And it's like different ways
Speaker 1: or angles of looking at things or talking about things
Speaker 1: that no one else talks about.
Speaker 4: Right, and even if you are the Mormon girl, because
Speaker 4: that's what I'm labeled, you know, and maybe you would think, Okay,
Speaker 4: well she's done the rounds on all the shows. No,
Speaker 4: I have like thirty other things that I have big
Speaker 4: stacks of research on because I like to learn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that you are the moist sponge.
Speaker 4: Yes, but you can be too. You can be inappropriate,
Speaker 4: just like me and Janet.
Speaker 1: And that is right for a low low price for like.
Speaker 4: You know, the things that we waste in life. I
Speaker 4: guess maybe because I've just been through it so badly.
Speaker 4: I think that I've just had so many bad things
Speaker 4: happened to me that I really and I'm gonna push
Speaker 4: stop this year. I'm I really think that let's see,
Speaker 4: we're going in the tunnel. Don't look at the purple,
Speaker 4: don't don't.
Speaker 1: Do it, look away, look away.
Speaker 4: I always have the hardest time. Okay, there it is.
Speaker 4: I really think that for everything we have, we are
Speaker 4: not supposed to hold, we are supposed to share with
Speaker 4: one another. Or you know, there's a reason why I
Speaker 4: made like this, like, yeah, she talks too much, but
Speaker 4: maybe that's because she's supposed to talk to people. Or
Speaker 4: maybe that's because you're not a talker and you're not
Speaker 4: you know, you're supposed to do this other thing over here.
Speaker 4: We all have a gift, you know, and maybe you
Speaker 4: hate all human beings and your gift is just to
Speaker 4: be with the animals. And I understand that too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I get it. I like, but at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, we've got this amazing thing where Janet and
Speaker 4: I are talking clear across the country. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: pretty awesome, and we're best friends from so far. But
Speaker 4: I know if I met her, we would be like
Speaker 4: it would just be peas and carrots because we've been
Speaker 4: lucky enough to have this. So why would God allow this?
Speaker 4: Because I don't I don't think any of this is benevolent.
Speaker 4: I don't write this magic. This magic that we're doing
Speaker 4: is actually benevolent, but it can be used for benevolence.
Speaker 4: But how.
Speaker 1: Yep, And that's why, like you said before, being that true, authentic,
Speaker 1: genuine person I think protects you a lot of times
Speaker 1: from that malevolent stuff because God doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: hide any part of who you are. And so when
Speaker 1: you are true and authentic and genuine and whatever, he
Speaker 1: knows that, and that's when you start attracting more of
Speaker 1: that to you instead of putting out falsities and the
Speaker 1: lies of the mask wearing and all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a reason why people wear masks. They're usually
Speaker 4: in the club that they have to do that. It
Speaker 4: doules who you are. Like each one of us has this,
Speaker 4: Like I'm not anything different than any of you. All
Speaker 4: of us have our own thing though. Yeah, we're like
Speaker 4: these colors of a rainbow together. And I just feel
Speaker 4: like it's sad because even on my comments on my podcast,
Speaker 4: like the week before last, somebody said, stop being like Pollyanna,
Speaker 4: choose a side, and I said, what fucking side are
Speaker 4: you talking about? Bro? Like that is the dumbest thing
Speaker 4: I've ever and.
Speaker 1: Was that comment Choose a side because secretly they wanted
Speaker 1: you to choose their side. Well, I'm going to side
Speaker 1: with this side that's right and just, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go along to get along. I'm not a
Speaker 1: I'm not a yes person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yep. I've always had problems with that, and that's why.
Speaker 4: You know, people want to fit in the club, fit
Speaker 4: in the this or that, fit in that cookie cutter,
Speaker 4: And if you want to chop pieces off of yourself
Speaker 4: to fit in that hole, then that's your prerogative. Too,
Speaker 4: but like, don't punish those of us that don't want
Speaker 4: to do that because we want to do our own thing,
Speaker 4: you know. And that happens so for people that are
Speaker 4: out there that feel alone, because that is the loneliest
Speaker 4: thing to feel like you just don't fit. You know,
Speaker 4: you're the one and there's always one in a family.
Speaker 4: I really believe that. And you're a black sheep or whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, but it's it's not that, it's like you're
Speaker 4: a self thinker. You're you're made differently for a reason,
Speaker 4: and I think it is good. I don't think that's bad.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, we're meant to do that, and
Speaker 4: we're meant to, you know, teach our families. Like I
Speaker 4: kind of feel like God does this because he's like, now, look,
Speaker 4: you love this person and they're different than you, so learn.
Speaker 4: But like nobody does, and it's just an ongoing thing.
Speaker 4: But we all, like my mom me, we would never
Speaker 4: be friends if we weren't mother and daughter because we
Speaker 4: are very different human beings, right, It's different, and that's
Speaker 4: why God puts us together as a family because then
Speaker 4: you can learn all about like she loves animals and
Speaker 4: she loves being outside she's more like you are, you
Speaker 4: know she I love to be outside, but like I'm
Speaker 4: always doing ten thousand things and I'm missing like the.
Speaker 5: Sunset, everything around you, yep, because.
Speaker 4: I'm busy and I'm focused in like I'm a very
Speaker 4: hyper focused person and so details matter to me. All
Speaker 4: these things that my husband could give a shit, like
Speaker 4: he's like, I don't care about that. Look at the sunset.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for my husband, I would never see
Speaker 4: a beautiful sunset because he's like, hey, pay attention, you know,
Speaker 4: get off your stupid podcast or whatever. And and he's
Speaker 4: I'm grateful, like look at looking at all of that,
Speaker 4: Like the people that surround you your life, that are
Speaker 4: put there by God.
Speaker 1: There are a it's for that balance that we need,
Speaker 1: right and kind of.
Speaker 4: Like cut people out, Like that's so shitty. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I don't give a cat. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 4: care if you're crazy. Auntesty makes you like the worst
Speaker 4: human ever, Like you take a breath and learn it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean you have to like it. You can learn
Speaker 4: to love the person for who they are, not what
Speaker 4: they do. Because we all have our own shit.
Speaker 1: So everybody has it, has their faults, so they're yep,
Speaker 1: but we know it's challenging, is not kidding, So you know.
Speaker 1: The the interesting thing though, like like you said, like
Speaker 1: you're always so focused and busy, that's because the way
Speaker 1: that your chemical makeup is and your DNA is because
Speaker 1: you're an organizer, you're a planner, you're a you know,
Speaker 1: you have to be very scheduled and very analytical and
Speaker 1: methodical in the way that you think of things, you know,
Speaker 1: and then my DNA is very different because I'm very
Speaker 1: like I used to be that way and now I'm
Speaker 1: like evolving and changing with the way that he wants
Speaker 1: me to be, and I'm like calm and docile and
Speaker 1: stop and smell the roses kind of person now. But
Speaker 1: that's why every one of us has made so uniquely
Speaker 1: and that's also what makes us have those special qualities
Speaker 1: right in our DNA and where we can read the
Speaker 1: room and have perception. And my level of perceiving things
Speaker 1: is going to be different than your level of perceiving
Speaker 1: things because you're very analytical about stuff. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to go ooh, I feel icky, like I don't like
Speaker 1: this feeling, and you're going to be like I don't
Speaker 1: like it here because of X, Y and Z. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to put a broadject mark and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have the whole calendar planned that we need everybody in between,
Speaker 1: because everybody has very different ways of looking at stuff.
Speaker 5: And we're all process.
Speaker 8: Yea.
Speaker 4: I hate when people say my husband does this often
Speaker 4: with his dad as a very early riser, early to bed,
Speaker 4: early to rise, and he always says, why am I
Speaker 4: not a morning person? I hate that I'm not a
Speaker 4: morning person. I hate that I want to stay up,
Speaker 4: And I said, what would happen if we were all
Speaker 4: morning people who would take care of the people at night.
Speaker 5: They're under the process.
Speaker 4: Right that are clued into you being the way you
Speaker 4: are and even changing, like what you said, changing to
Speaker 4: evolve to that time frame in your life because we
Speaker 4: go through seasons in our life and it's meant to
Speaker 4: be that way. But don't do it because somebody's forcing
Speaker 4: you to fit in the hole. If it's God forcing,
Speaker 4: he'll do it in the best way ever. Like she's evolved,
Speaker 4: like this whole I evolved, you know, into different things,
Speaker 4: Like it will come differently than just this forceful, crazy
Speaker 4: Rockefeller school bullshit. I don't like that, you know, and I.
Speaker 1: Always that And it's a good thing you mentioned the
Speaker 1: Rockefellers because who would have known, Who would have ever
Speaker 1: known that we make our own d MT because that
Speaker 1: is not in a book. That's not something you're going
Speaker 1: to learn in medical school, nursing school. It is not
Speaker 1: in there. And this information is out there, widely available.
Speaker 1: But why did you even.
Speaker 4: Know about your pineal gland until you were like this?
Speaker 4: Like they didn't.
Speaker 1: Well, I knew about it because I had to teach
Speaker 1: about it, but I didn't know in depth about it
Speaker 1: until after I completely got out of nursing.
Speaker 4: Or that you make that you have cannabinoid receptors in
Speaker 4: your body, for that's not something that's real. Canids not not.
Speaker 1: But not bio engineered synthetic GMO, right and not.
Speaker 4: It's it's once receptors are full, they're.
Speaker 5: Full, right, one hundred persons.
Speaker 4: You can't just smoke yourself into oblivion either. But but
Speaker 4: obviously it's meant for something, right, It's like nicotine, same
Speaker 4: thing with nicotine, never ever end in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I read these studies on this this year because I
Speaker 4: want to tell people this in twenty twenty with the
Speaker 4: crap that happened there. They did some studies on nicotine
Speaker 4: and all the people that were smoking thought they were
Speaker 4: going to die, right, And my.
Speaker 5: Mom's actually a narrow protective Yeah, as I said.
Speaker 4: Mom, whatever you do, don't stop smoking, like please, because
Speaker 4: now's not the time, but you should cut down really
Speaker 4: like yeah, she needed, she needs to still, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: but it's it's, you know, too much of a good thing, right,
Speaker 4: it's that balance. So every once in a while now
Speaker 4: and my kids were just like flipped out about this
Speaker 4: because they've never seen Mom do this. I'll pop in
Speaker 4: a little piece of nicotine gum. It really doesn't have
Speaker 4: any effect on me because I'm a rapid metabolizer and
Speaker 4: my kidneys function at one hundred percent. So whatever, I
Speaker 4: can't say, I know this, if I chew a four milligram,
Speaker 4: I will want to throw up. The other one's fine,
Speaker 4: and it protects you during the winter months. If you've
Speaker 4: been around people that are sick, They've done studies. This
Speaker 4: is gamma studies. This is true. And if you notice,
Speaker 4: and especially if you do it without a lung inhalation,
Speaker 4: because obviously then you're taking away the damage, you know,
Speaker 4: So if you do that, or do the mints or
Speaker 4: the patch or anything like that, it will help you
Speaker 4: if you've been around sick people, which is bananas to me.
Speaker 4: So when I go out in public, like and I'm
Speaker 4: shopping because I have asthma really bad, I'll just do that.
Speaker 4: And I did that yesterday just to make sure you know,
Speaker 4: because I was shopping and out and about and whatever,
Speaker 4: and they don't want you to know that. You know,
Speaker 4: my dad, No, he was so smart and before his time,
Speaker 4: and I just I feel so bad that he was awake.
Speaker 4: He was like a George Carlin. He was super cynical.
Speaker 4: He was an inventor, but he didn't realize what he
Speaker 4: was up against. And he invented something called nickelte water
Speaker 4: and this is patented. And he did it because he
Speaker 4: almost went crazy one time on a flight from here
Speaker 4: to Hawaii and he said, hey, I just can't go
Speaker 4: eight hours at such a crazy If they had delays,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but he said, I'll never go that
Speaker 4: far again. And he was only marketing it to his
Speaker 4: friends in the airline business, like not to be sold
Speaker 4: to anyone but the airlines. But it's still failed because
Speaker 4: you're talking about big tobacco.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and hence they demonize everything that they don't
Speaker 1: want to get out there, right, and then they prop
Speaker 1: up things that make us sicker. And so who has
Speaker 1: the most demonization, it's the tobacco industry. And for centuries
Speaker 1: they use tobacco in healing ceremonies and in sweat lodges
Speaker 1: and and you know all kinds of are evadic medicine
Speaker 1: and stuff. And why is that. It is because we
Speaker 1: have nicotenic receptors in.
Speaker 4: Our body, and sadly they have overtaken that, and now
Speaker 4: you can't get anything that's not tainted, even if you
Speaker 4: grew at yourself, just like the weed. We know that.
Speaker 4: You know, the ground is completely devastated from what they do.
Speaker 4: You know, they spray. They've got all these chemicals and
Speaker 4: everything they've been putting in the air and the ground
Speaker 4: and everything forever. But I mean it would still be
Speaker 4: far cry better, you know, right, what are they doing.
Speaker 4: They're putting for maldehyde and cigarettes, like I mean really okay.
Speaker 1: Well, because why let's poison something that would be useful
Speaker 1: to a person, right, because they don't want you to
Speaker 1: get healthy, in the same reason why they don't teach
Speaker 1: you about your body making and releasing DMT. Why would
Speaker 1: they possibly want us to know that? And now that
Speaker 1: I do know that, I'm like, oh, okay, well everything
Speaker 1: makes a super huge amount of sense. And the people
Speaker 1: that have uber visit or uber visual and colorful dreams
Speaker 1: and stuff like that all the time, Now you know
Speaker 1: why because you are a super producer of d during
Speaker 1: your rim sleep.
Speaker 4: Yes, yep. And I mean it's just one of those
Speaker 4: things that could trick your brain. So be wise, gentle
Speaker 4: as a dove and wise as a serpent.
Speaker 1: Right, we're supposed to be serpents are pretty smart. So
Speaker 1: I found this to be very highly interesting. And for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, December twenty first through the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth is supposed to be our rebirth or whatever, and
Speaker 1: that is cross culturally wise, So if you're struggling in
Speaker 1: the month of December, you are expected to come out
Speaker 1: of that after, you know, after Christmas is over, even
Speaker 1: though that's not really Christmas.
Speaker 4: Beginning.
Speaker 1: It means you're on the upswing of things. And so
Speaker 1: i'll the negativity and the bad and the you know,
Speaker 1: frequencies and stuff that happened in December that's going to
Speaker 1: end shortly so you can, you know, keep your DNA
Speaker 1: and make a connection with God and make your kill
Speaker 1: your relatives. Yeah, and if you're seeing the Star of Bethlehem,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe you're producing a little too much
Speaker 1: d MT or you really had a divine vision. So
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 4: Just eat some more turkey and go to sleep. Look
Speaker 4: it'll be over.
Speaker 1: Sea taking nap, George.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, don't worry about it. But don't kill your
Speaker 4: relatives why they're visiting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, probably not a good idea because that
Speaker 1: could land you in some trouble and then you might
Speaker 1: not have access to d MT as you need exactly.
Speaker 4: And and remember this, love them for who they are,
Speaker 4: not what they are. That'll help you out.
Speaker 1: True words. So my beautiful Me's Heidie work and they
Speaker 1: find you out, my love.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad as always to be here with my
Speaker 4: wonderful friend Janet. She always brings the heat and we
Speaker 4: do some great shows together and I'm thankful for that.
Speaker 4: So if you're watching this on her channel and you
Speaker 4: don't know where I'm at, I am Heidi Love Luv
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Speaker 4: And I'm hoping you are seeing this on my Patreon,
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Speaker 1: my fabulous, beautiful bestie mess Heidi, we love you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for tuning in and I hope you learn something today
Speaker 1: like I did that we did not know. So have
Speaker 1: a good one and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 5: Bye,