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we'll be talking about something near and dear to the
subjects of UFOs, but from a different perspective that you
men never have heard before. But before that, let's thank
our helmsman Bill and Jackson navigating the many callers that
we get. And all that we ask, folks is that
when you call in, if you just simply try your
best to stay on subject matter because of the great
number of calls that we get. For centuries, mankind has
been witnessed to strange and mystical sightings of what is
now known as UFOs and UAPs. For while over eighty years,
more recent documented reports of this aerial phenomenon continue, but
to this date, in this humble host opinion, no single
credible piece of evidence has been shown, Yet we want
to be positive, well, have we missed a key ingredient
in this puzzle? We now explore a Christian view from answers,
what does the Bible tell us about u fos, UAP's
and the connection between God and this whole subject. In
just a moment, we'll give you a full bio of
our special guest, Derek Warfew, the author of a brand
new book that talks about this subject in great entirety.
UFOs and God, UFOs and God, revealing deception and the
truth behind the supernatural, the invisible war very interesting subjects.
But we throw out a question to our audience in
the kindness of a handshake, and the question to start
our conversation with our guests would be this, does the
Bible offer some simple explanation or a complicated explanation of
UFOs and UAPs? With that in mind, let's hear more.
We need to talk. I have waited most of my
life for the government to come out and say they're real.
They finally have said that. I was informed in the
course of my official duties of a multi decade UAP
crash retrieval and reverse engineering.
Speaker 1: Program, probably the moment I realized they were real.
Speaker 4: They would be in two thousand and four.
Speaker 5: We end up spending a week tracking unknown aircraft and
I got to say a live action video of an
actual UAP.
Speaker 6: And from then on, my AHA moment is when you're
standing in a seventy foot area that's been baked two
feet into the ground.
Speaker 7: And the ships came that night and I start freaking
out and it was so massive.
Speaker 8: It was who are you?
Speaker 7: What is?
Speaker 5: This affected my relationship with God?
Speaker 9: Who I thought I was, my identity, what I believe,
but it really shouldn't.
Speaker 10: Old ted you must be a UFO believer, and I
say no, I believe in God.
Speaker 3: I study UFOs.
Speaker 11: What ultimately could be the agenda behind the alien UPHO phenomenon,
It could be very, very evil.
Speaker 8: Don't think about the thirteen billion light years. If we're
talking dimensions beyond the universe, they could be this close
to us. Whatever the claims that are made by any
personality regarding.
Speaker 10: God or Jesus or spiritual things, I want to know
the reasons.
Speaker 8: Maybe these interdimensional beings have an agenda. They're on a mission,
and I argue that it's a deceptive mission.
Speaker 3: We need to talk about this now.
Speaker 4: Christians are starving for people to talk about this.
Speaker 12: And to talk about honestly, time is of I want to.
Speaker 3: Talk about it. Let's go to Sunday School and talk
about this topic. Derrek Warvell is an award winning filmmaker
whose new book UFOs and God, Revealing Deception and the
Truth behind the Supernatural and the Invisible War, offers a
serious Biblical response to the modern UFO narrative and its
growing impact on the church. He holds a bachelor's degree
in psychology from Princeton University, a master's of theology from
Dallas Theological Seminary, where he studied under doctor Charles Ryrie
and John Walboot, and a master's degree in cinema from
the University of Southern California. He's the owner and producer
of Winter Star Productions. Derek is the executive producer of
the Companion doctormentary film UFOs and God, set to release
later this month in August, and is developing a six
week Bible study guide for small groups. It resides in Florida,
and it's a privilege and honor to have you, Derek.
As we continue to move through time and space, how
are you, sir, and thank you for spending time with us.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you for having me on the show. Can
you hear me? Okay?
Speaker 3: I sure can, and sometimes we'll hear clicking noises, but
I always blame them on solar flares. But let's hope
we don't have any outbursts of solar flares.
Speaker 7: So far.
Speaker 3: You're sounding five by five And if it wasn't for
our great helmsman, I'm sure we probably wouldn't be hearing this.
Speaker 7: So yeah. Well, but as they say, east of the
Rockies here in Florida, So that's ready to go.
Speaker 3: You're way east of the Rockies. You know, many people,
as I opened up with the whole show here as
we always do, bringing on the greatest guests and people,
tell us my email just Drsky at WABC radio dot com.
Any comments and questions that you might have throughout this
two hour exchange. I'm more than happy to get back
to you. But here's the way I like to begin
this interview with you. This is such a deep subject
and what I'm so privileging on it to be as
the host of the show sitting behind this microphone, is
to be able to express to people a different view
You don't have to necessarily agree with everything as we
talk about, you know, not only to you don't have
to worry with the host. You don't have to worry
with the guests. But in the positivity side of this,
therey here's the simple question, why do UFOs matter to
the Christian Church? You spend a lifetime doing this, Please
tell us more about this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I would say they matter for this reason.
It's becoming a growing phenomenon that it's becoming harder and
harder to deny. You know, I think in the book
I give maybe thirty or forty different examples that you know,
from credible eyewitnesses, from credible events, and just to ignore it,
you have a problem. So, as a Christian, I ran
across this problem. I say, well, I don't know if
I have a category for this, how do I how
does this spin into my understanding of the Bible? And
I started doing some research and I ran across this
book called The Truth about UFOs by John Weldon and
John Ackerberg, and is like the lights went on. Of
course that's the answer right there. As Christians, we know
that there's a whole supernatural realm that's existed alongside of
us throughout all of history, and the only type of
beings that the Bible and God has told us about
that could do some of the things that we're seeing
are basically these supernatural beings. And every culture throughout all
of history has, in every culture, every religion has admitted
that we share this universe with supernatural beings. And it's
only in the twentieth century that basically science became a
little bit too uppity to decide that, well, that's all superstition.
We don't believe that anymore. But anybody who's better knows
there's all sorts of evidence of supernatural beings that have
inhabited our lives. You know, the simplest ones are like
ghosts and polderdeice. But you go back throughout all of history,
and you know ancient Near Eastern, Ancient Egyptian gods, the Arabic, Gin,
Greek and Roman gods. Now they probably never presented themselves
the way that mythology has come down to us. But
something started it off. I mean, you know, the Greeks
and Mermans weren't stupid that there's something something that was
credible that yeah, that got them thinking about these things.
Speaker 3: No, it's an amazing story and the relevance of this
couldn't be at a more perfect time because and again
my rant is not as important as what your information
to the audience. And that's why we go ahead and
open the phone lines. We call it a theater of
the mind because obviously we're not watching this in a
video format, which to me gives us more of the imagination.
And that theater of the mind number for the Doctor
Sky EXPERI it's eight four to eight nine two two.
If you'd like to join, and I hope you will,
ladies and gentlemen. Derek Warfel, author and filmmaker. This gentleman
has a lot of experience with a different twist. And
not to sound like I'm kissing up here, Derek, this
is interesting to me because in my opinion, and I
don't like throwing too many opinions, I like the guests
to give us more the information. But here it is
to cut to the chase. In my humbled opinion, legacy
and mainstream media is just on this hot torch bed.
You know, it's like hot coals. Everybody's now looking at
this thing is Wow. There's an alien invasion, maybe imminent.
But the government in many people's estimation. What is nolling
out this information and little bits, dribbles and dribbles of information,
some of which is good, But I want to take
a different perspective on this, and to some it may
be a little bit challenging. So why is this so relevant?
Tell us this is so important?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's relevant, I mean at least for Christians,
because how can I say the messaging that's coming from
encounters with these beings is completely opposite Christianity. I mean,
it's not like it's just sort of like it, it's
completely opposite. They tell us, they tell the people that
have had contact with them that in fact, God did
not create this universe. They essentially were the creators of
us here on planet Earth. They visited Earth and there
is a very primitive life forms and they see the
DNA here and so we're there children not God's children.
I mean, that's the message that they're giving out. And basically,
obviously that's completely opposite Christianity. And they deny that there's
a personal God. They believe there's a God force, but
not a personal God. Well, that undermines all of Christian
theology because Christian theology says there is a personal God.
We have offended him severely, and because of that there's
a judgment day. Well, if there's no personal God, we
haven't done anything. There's no judgment day. There's no need
for a savior like Jesus Christ. And to them, Jesus
Christ is just an ascended guru and the answer to
life is reincarnation. Well, needless to say that that's almost
like Hinduism or at New Age theology, and that, as
you can see, is completely opposite. So either they're right
or we're right. And so yeah, that's why it's important.
And I believe there's more and more people well meeting
people who are saying, well, maybe we need to listen
to these beings because look at the crafts that they
fly in.
Speaker 3: Well, I know this is very controversial to someone we're
not here. Let me say this. I'm not here to
convince anybody out there that yours is the only path
to this subject matter. But on the same line, I'm
a Christian and I believe very strongly that without my knowledge,
my lack of knowledge in the depth of what you
will bring to the table, I think offers some very
good insight. And to continue on this, what dough space
aliens and their followers. Teach mentioned a few of them.
There is no personal creator God, but an impersonal life
force ruling the universe, and the space aliens of the creators,
they designed DNA and seated it on the Earth to evolve. Now,
those are some very controversial things, but gets into whole
Darwinism gets into all these different, very interesting subjects. So
in the time that we have with you and the callers,
you believe it or not, it looks like we're lighting
up the phone lines as we would expect here with
such a very interesting subject. Again, ladies and gentlemen, taking
a different approach to this. All we continue here is
about these alien spacecrafts. Look, I've studied this. You know
you and I have had conversations, right, Derek. Look, I've
met and had talks and conversations and actually been part
of doing some deep research the Betty and Barney Hill case.
Betty Hill, I knew how, and I want to sound redundant,
I knew how. I'd visit her in somers and look
at her experience that she had. Travis Walton, a good
friend here in Arizona. Stanton Friedman, doctor Stanton Friedman, a
great guy, sadly passed on. But it's so interesting that
we listened. So let me go right to it. Before
we even go to the callers, give us, in your
humble opinion and your you know, factual information. What is
some of the best evidence that we can say from
the Bible that talks deeply about this connection between other
spiritual beings or whatever supernatural that they might be. What's
what's the best symbol of answer that you could give
this audience one of many.
Speaker 7: Well, the Bible does talk about supernatural beings. The Bible
calls them angels. They're also called sons of God or
watchers or you know whatever, and a stars sometimes, and
you know, you look at those beings and you see
how similar these beings that are coming in craft UFO
craft are like the angels described in the Bible. And
the Bible clearly talks about the fact that when God created,
before God created us, he created a whole realm of
supernatural beings to serve him, and he called them angels.
And they're very smart, harry intelligence, very powerful, and you know,
but at one point in time, one third of them
decided to rebel against their creator, and they have been
at war with God, with the Holy Angels and with
us ever since. And if you look at this closely,
you see that there's that type of thing that happened
throughout all of history, the ancient Egyptian gods. You look
at the ancient Egyptian gods that fought against Moses and
Yahweh or what we believe is the Judeo Christian God,
you know, and in fact, these beings it's like literally
if it you know, it's the old saying, if it
walks like a duck and it's quacks like a duck,
and it looks like a duck, maybe it's a duck.
And these beings match exactly what a fallen angel would
look like, these angels, the angelic beings. And so I
mean I spend two whole chapters one chapter just looking
at what the Holy Angels look like. And then you
look and you see these quote unquote evil spirits are
very much like the Holy Angels, except that they try
to do things that are not good, and the Bible
says they come to kill, steal, and destroy, And that
I think with Sherlock Holmes or Arthur Colin, Dono has
said that once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable,
is likely the truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating information here one eight four, eight, nine to two.
Speaker 13: Two.
Speaker 3: Let's continue with our conversation, try to get as many
of our callers in here with their great wisdom and
also their great commentary. Let's say good morning too online
one John in Minnesota, You're on with author and filmmaker
Derek Warfare.
Speaker 13: Your thanks for taking the call. One of the very
skeptical about aliens coming to our planet, for the simple
reason that a few people talk about, is how the
heck did they get here? You notice when we when
we send astronauts into space to the moon and we return,
they are returned and returned in parachutes splashing into the ocean.
They somehow, if they are coming from another planet, which
I doubt, they have the ability to fly directly through
the atmosphere and return. So is anybody talking about that?
How do they get here?
Speaker 3: Well, it's a very good point that you bring up, Derek.
Go ahead, you got the you got the floor on this.
You're our guests.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I think you know the same. One. Are
the big criticisms that these are in fact coming from
another planet or another galaxy. I mean I could go
through the scientific reasons why it's just flat out impossible
for beings like us carbon based life forms, uh, you know,
to travel here to interstellar space. But one of the
things that simply disproves that is that we have scientists
who are tracking thousands of millions of craft out there
that are flying, rocks, asteroids, everything, and no one has
ever been able to track one of these coming from
outer space into our atmosphere. I mean, they will tell you.
One of the people we mentioned in the film, doctor Harzema,
basically says, we've never been able to track anything coming
from outer space into our atmosphere. Well, they obviously had
to cross outer space to come into our atmosphere, So
how did they get here? They just seem to appear.
And I think the answer is, basically, we're not dealing
with interstellar objects. We're dealing with interdimensional objects. And there's
plenty of examples of that in the Bible. You're right,
how did they get here? I mean, if I have
a little longer segment, I can talk about there's three
reasons why they're not coming from another planet. One is
the Earth is too unique. The other is the distances
are too great. And thirdly, the possibility of life coming
about by random chance, which is what evolution demands. It's
just way too great. So they're not coming from another
galaxy or not coming from the data reticulous our system
or alpha centaury. We've never been able to track anything
coming into our atmosphere from outer space.
Speaker 14: And so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's interesting what you're saying, Derek. But I
want to give John, if you're still with us, you've
got to respond an opportunity to respond back any final
comment or a question that you have.
Speaker 13: Well, I think that's absolutely right. I mean, these pilots
and people that have seen things, they're definitely.
Speaker 3: So go ahead. I think we lost him, John in Minnesota,
give it one more try. Did we lose you? Okay,
we lost him, But I think Derek, he was onto.
There is after you've responded that you're right.
Speaker 7: There is one other thing. I mean, there is a
period having in the book exact here. There's some cosmonauts
at one point who saw some sort of being flitting
outside of the craft when they were circling the Earth,
and even our astronauts have mentioned that they saw objects
that looked that it was hard to define that they
were buzzing about as they were going through space, so
there is some sort of sightings, but they do not
seem to be traveling from the stars or from the
galaxies to our planet, which is weird because they would
have to do that to get here. And it's interesting
to me that even you followists, people who are committed
to this philosophy admit that maybe they have been here
all long, and there's a lot of theories about that
that in fact, that maybe this is their home base.
Speaker 3: Well, you're right, Derek, we don't even know much about
the under sea, and we look at the moon. Let's say,
just an object that if you're out now, ladies and gentlemen, seeing,
depending on where you are, if it's nighttime, the moon
is either up just past full. We'll go into that later.
But the interesting thing is we've gone to the surface
of the moon, but we know so little. We've mapped
the moon, even the far side, but we know so
little about the deepest parts of the ocean and other
areas underneath the oceans. Who knows, maybe these interdimensional beings
for whatever reason. And again I can't say I can
prove it. You can't either, But that's why we have
you in this particular episode of the Doctor Sky Experience.
We're doing fine is to be able, ladies and gentlemen,
to bring in another iteration of what research over the time,
whether you're a Christian or not. We're going to get
into what more of the Bible might say about revelations,
not the Book of Revelations, but about this phenomenon here,
because you don't hear that, Derek, in other programs. Most
of the time, all we're hearing about is the latest
UFO cover up, disclosure. We all want disclosure, and again
I'm not Look, let me say this. I come from
a science background, okay, observational astronomy. I've gone out not
breaking tens of thousands of hours and the deepest and
darkest s guies with every single galactic object that you
could possibly imagine, and I haven't seen but maybe one
billion to them all. And I can tell you categorical,
I haven't seen anything really truly that makes me go,
oh wow, look at that spaceship with the guys with
their gals, with the big heads and the big eyes.
But this is a subject that's interesting and defining it
from your perspective as a Christian and bringing into the
whole subject here UFOs and god and if you'd like
to go to Derek's website, it's simply UFOs and godbook
dot com. That's UFO's and indegodbook dot com. Very interesting stuff.
So take us to the bottom of the hour, if
we've got about three more minutes. Why of course this
is so relevant in other perspectives and other iterations, because
everywhere you see, everybody wants to have the understanding, hey,
wait a minute, there's something out there, and whether it's
good or bad. Tell us more about why this is
all relevant from.
Speaker 7: Your perspective, Well, I don't think we're going to see
what you see in the film Independence Day, like some
big craft hovering that's going to start blowing away the
White House and other things. It seems like it's far
more subtle. A lot of people will say, well, if
these things are real, why don't they land on the
White House law and then say take me to your leader.
It seems that the strategy here, as the strategy of
the occult throughout all of history, is far more subtle,
you know, basically, but it is there is danger. For example,
there was a report of a craft hovering near the
nucular missile stripe Malstrom Air Force Base very.
Speaker 3: Well on this show. Please continue, but you're you're right
on right on the right railroad here.
Speaker 7: And literally the entire underground controls for the nuclear missiles
went offline for one hour, and that is scary. We've
got nuclear missiles, we have no control of them for
one hour. So there's reports of craft like it was
one of the French Craft fighter tits uh that almost
had a collision with the UFO UH. There's other pilots
that talk about having near collisions. There's a case in
I think it was Australia. I know it's maybe New
Zealand that basically where there was this one first pilot
was reporting that he was being sort of harassed by
a UFO Do that right, And his craft was never
and his ship was never heard from. His plane was
never heard from again. So there is some danger here.
It's not like the Independence Day movie where they're going
to blow up, you know, the Pentagon or something, but
they seem to enjoy hurting people, and not only just
in terms of spaceships or flying saucers, but when people
have had contact with him, there's a lot of danger
and people being hurt, like you've done this story about
Travis Walton. He disappeared for five days. What happened to
him or.
Speaker 3: Exactly his story is, Derek, His story is so very powerful.
Hollywood took the liberty of doing the Fire in the
sky and that to me, if you watch the end
part of it, though it's Hollywood, you've seen it. You're
a filmmaker and other people are not filmmakers, and they
saw it. That literally kind of shocked me when I
watched that years ago, and I've said to myself, Travis,
knowing him, that's incredible. I mean, you have a lot
of people that don't believe him at all. But why
would a man do this? He's a lumberjack, let's say, simple,
common guy, intelligent guy. Why would he go to all
this length to tell a story like that because he
can make a lot of money. That's never been in
my opinions.
Speaker 7: Oh it's not. At least there were five other but
four or five other people with him that saw him
go up into that draft, and they took live detector
tests and passed all of them. Because people thought that
they killed him because there was no Oh give me
a break here, your friend just went up into a
spaceship give me a break, and literally he was disappeared
for five days. They were going to bring charges against
these guys. He came back and he explained that literally
last thing he remembered was this craft flying away. And
the bottom line is is that you know it's a
dangerous thing. Now these are isolated incidents, so people, you know,
it goes into the news cycle, and that goes out
of the news cycle, so you don't think about it.
But there's I listed at the beginning of the book
probably about fifty different examples that are hard to explain away.
Maybe I can do this after the break, and.
Speaker 3: We need to take that break, not to get any
guts short, because in this world there's space and time,
the time space continuum. It's time for the heartbreak. We'll
continue with Derek Warfow, an excellent guest in my opinion,
I hope you would agree. Not everything you may believe,
but the point of the matter is we open up
the many mysteries in the theater of the mind. Derek Warfow,
author and filmmaker. Right after these important announcements.
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Speaker 6: Like trevels billions of years, so we can watch a
star say goodbye. But in this darkness every end, it's
just the beginning of something beautiful.
Speaker 3: At thirty three minutes after the hour, we simply are
all made of start us. We continue with that. Very
special guests on the Doctor Sky Experience, Theater of the
Mind Derek Warfel, author and filmmaker. Derek, thanks for being
with us. Let's continue with the callers. They're very popular here,
at least as they step into the Theater of the Mind.
Let's go to line number three and say good morning
to Nick in Virginia. Nick, thanks for your patience.
Speaker 4: How you doing well?
Speaker 15: Thank you Doctor Sky and Derek. I too have my
doubts about man getting to Heaven into spaceship, simply because
it would take forty years just to get to the
end of our solar system. And uh you know, uh,
I don't know. As a film producer. Uh do you
know about the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still
and the hidden meanings in the film?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 15: Yes, uh, well, the the scriptwriter Edward North he uh,
and without the consent of the company that produced the
film or the the the director that he was, he
was putting these hidden meanings in the movie that Clatto
and Gort came down from the heavens and this and
the whole thing was a metaphoric Jesus.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 15: Clatto came to Earth from the heavens, and he had
a message for mankind to tent or you will be
burnt to a charred nothing. And he was given. He
was resurrected by Gourt after the humans shot him, and
then he took on the name Carpenter as a human
and was trying to teach humanity through his messaging that
they need to straighten up and fly right.
Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right. It's amazing the way you say that,
because it's one of my favorite movies. And Derek, please
your response, because Nick brings up some very interesting things
Messengers from the heavens with a message of peace in
this particular case if people haven't seen the movie, but
tell us more, Derek, this is interesting what Nick is
are alluding to.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you're right about the distances. I'm just
going to cover this briefly. Is that literally from what
we could tell right now just by triangulation, the universe
is one hundred billion light years wide. Okay, that's the lot.
The light year is the distance light travels in a year,
and light travels approximately six trillion miles in a year,
so you know, you start to realize, and even just
our own galaxy, the Milky Way, it takes one hundred
and fifty thousand years for the radio signal to get
across our galaxy traveling at the speed of light, so
you realize that you know them coming from that type
of distance. And the closest star to us is Alpha century,
four point three light years away, or twenty five trillion
miles away. Now, if you were to take Voyager one,
which left our atmosphere in the seventies thirty eight thousand
miles an hour, it would take seventy five thousand years
to reach Alpha century, which is the closest star. So yeah,
it's just fairly not possible that they're coming from another,
even the closest star, because nothing travels fast than the
speed of light. According to Einstein, that's a constant. And
even if we were to travel at one tenth the
speed of light, you think that there's nothing in space,
but there is. There's space dusts, there's chips, there's little rocks. Literally,
your craft would get torn apart before you reach your destination.
So they're not coming from another star, they're not coming
for another star system. They're coming from another dimension.
Speaker 3: And you make it a good point there, Derek. No,
not to cut you short. What I want to add
to Nick and the conversation to the entire audience. The
speed of light is six hundred and seventy million miles
an hour, and you're absolutely right. Therek about five trillion
miles you know, to go to one light year distance.
So it seems improbable unless and again I cannot discount
it in the world of science that it's impossible, nor
are you saying that it's not impossible but more likely
if you line up all the statistics and science that
we know. But Nick and Virginia, you get an opportunity
to come back. If you have another response to what
the Derek is saying, go ahead.
Speaker 15: Yes, I tried to find out if what speed the
human body will deteriorate, and apparently they're saying that the
human body can actually go to speed of light as
long as it's not a quick speed that you know,
acceleration or a deceleration of any kind. Then you're going
to just you know, like if you hit something in space,
you're just going to be destroyed.
Speaker 3: You'd be torn apart. You're absolutely right, and again not
to be a funny guy. Imagine I don't have one,
but a friend of mine does. He sits in his
Tesla plaid and I have. Well, I haven't gotten in it,
but I know people who haven't. They say zero to
whatever it does. You might need a chiropractor. Derek and
Nick because of the instant acceleration. That's another story. But Nick,
thank you for bringing some perspective to this. And again
we're not trying to convince people. No apologies from me
the host. Everybody's opinion is important here and we're trying
to give better perspective in these two hours to what
might not be talked about. Derek, you're the one doing this,
and I salute you. Derek Warvill, author and filmmaker. So
as we continue on this journey, let me ask you
a few more questions on this improbable in your mind
that the capability of alien technology at this point over
the vast distance of space carry on the theme before
we go to the next break here in about four
or five minutes, about the possibility of this being a
more spiritual thing, interdimensional stuff. The mind of man doesn't
even understand that, so it has to be somewhere written
in books of the past. How does the Bible address
this in your opinion, you're the scholar on that.
Speaker 7: Well, the Bible seems to indicate several different angels we see,
and probably the easiest one to point to is if
you remember the Nativity story, the shepherds in the hills
who were looking at the sky, you know, with their sheep,
and all of a sudden there was a host of
angels singing glory to God. And then a few minutes,
a few seconds later, they were all gone, Well what happened?
Did they just go to Mars or Jupiter or Venus
or the Zeta ridiculous star system. No, they went from
one dimension, which is the dimension or in to another dimension.
For example, say pretend there's six dimensional beings. Okay, they
can enter three dimensions of space and then go back
to the sixth dimension, and to us they would seem
to disappear. Let me give you example. Look at something
like on your table, some flat table. Imagine you had
a whole species of beings on a flat table. It
would be like a projection of a movie or something
like that, and they're moving around and say you're in
a third dimension and you come down and touch the table,
it would look like you disappeared out of nowhere. And
then you lift your hands off the table, it would
look to them like you disappeared. You know. That's the
thing is that literally, traveling between dimensions, they could be
right next to you. This is we talked to an astrophysicist.
He says, literally, if there's another dimension, they could be
right next to you and you don't see them. And
I believe that's true. That literally We interviewed one person
in the film, Blake Healy, who basically had the ability
for some of his childhood years to see these extra
dimensional beings, and at a certain point when he came
closer to God, that ability disappeared. But it drove him
nuts because he could see them. No one else could
that they were right there, but they were gone. Let
me give you another example. The Garden of Eden. Okay,
the Garden of Eden, basically it says it's near the Euphrates,
river and some of the other rivers the Tiger Server
that come off of it. And you know, well, you
can go where these rivers are, and you can go
up and down the whole length of the thing, and
you will not find a gateway to the Garden of Eden.
Well where is it. Well, it's probably right there in
plain sight and the angel that's guarding the but it's
in another dimension. You know that you cannot enter that dimension.
You have lost Adam and Eve lost the ability to
travel between dimensions. So there's things on our earth that
may exist in three dimensional space that we can't see
them because they're in a higher dimension.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, you bring up something very fascinating because in
my world of spirituality, you know, I've lost my parents
and people out there who've lost loved ones no matter
what age, we still love them. But it's interesting if
we think maybe, and this is just my possibility, like
to keep positivity that according to physics and those that
are studying quantum, there may be upwards of eleven, maybe
even twenty two different dimensional planes. And we don't give
homework on this show, but there's something that people might
want to look into. It's rather complicated, but I'll say
it without spelling it. These are called collabi yao manifolds. Now,
I know that sounds crazy, like you're thinking of a
manifold on your vehicle. This is different. It's about dimensional
planes that exist out there. So what you're saying, Derek
is very much I in the heartside of the whole thing.
And to everybody listening, wouldn't it be wonderful that those
that have departed are not really like trillions of light
years away? But because our brains do not have the
capability of absorbing that sad that we can't bring them here.
But isn't that interesting that in that dimensional world. You're right,
maybe more of this UFO UAP story is that. But
we got to take that break. I want me come
back just to let our listeners know one eight hundred
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Speaker 14: Hi.
Speaker 5: I'm Travis Walton, author of Fire in the Sky and
my experience as an abductee back in nineteen seventy five,
and you are listening to the Doctor Sky Show.
Speaker 3: In the years of the Antichrist, people will expect salvation
from space. This will be the Devil's greatest trick. Humanity
will seek help from the aliens, not knowing that they
are actually demons. In the opinion of Saint Gabriel of
the Georgian Orthodox Church, who was canonized in twenty twelve,
a different perspective on the subject that we're talking about
today and this morning with our guests Derek Warfel, author
and filmmaker UFOs and God. Let's continue with the callers,
a very popular listing. Here a very popular guest. We
go to line four and welcome Tony in New Jersey.
Good morning, Thank you for your patience.
Speaker 16: Hi, Doctor Skuy. Hi, Derek, I love the topic. I
wanted to say that my viewpoint is I always funnel
everything through the word of God. And what I read
about was a very powerful scripture. And if you could
just give me two minutes, and then I think, I'll
let you say the but it talks about it'll take
two minutes when we get ready for the flood. We
talk about how Noah prepared for the flood because things
were so evil at that time. And it starts to
tell us about when man began. This is Genesis, Genesis,
one of the early chapters, when man began to multiply
on the face of the land, and daughters were born
to them. The sons of God saw that the daughters
of man were attractive, and they took as their wives
any they chose. And then the Lord said, my spirit
shall not abide with man forever, for his flesh his
days or two be years. And the film were on
earth on those days and also afterwards, and they're also
talks about in other passages of scripture. But what's interesting
is that then the film were really they read somewhere.
The name means that they were ancient champions who made
names for themselves, that at some point they had a
different relationship, and then you know, things happened and they
came down to earth. Very interesting, and so this all
makes sense to me. And the last thing I want
to say is that just as the Catholic Church was
always apprehensive about exorcisms, they didn't really talk about it,
they didn't really explain it, and people just found out
about it through movies like The Exorcists, this is the
same kind of thing. I think. It could be a
mix of beings that just were meant to be serving
God and glorifying God, and then they just came into
a way of their own, and you know, those who
are doing bad things to us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. No, you said at Lunton they appreciate
your commentary and your rebellion. Derek, this is fascinating. As
we dig deeper into the subject, please continue.
Speaker 7: Well, I would say, you know, there's a lot of
talk about the Nephiline. I have other friends who are
believers who've written books about this. I have a kind
of a unique view on this because I was confused
on this. I heard a sermon by doctor John MacArthur
and all of a sudden this kind of fell in
place for me. And this when we read from you
from Genesis six, which is what we're referring to says
the Nephylene were on the earth in those days and
afterwards when the sons of God came to the daughters
of men. In other words, the Nepheylene were on earth
before the sons of God came to the daughters of men.
What that tells me is that the Nephylene were a
human race, just like there's a race of midgets, there's
a race of you know, unique people here and there.
The Methylene were giants and they were not. They were
on the earth before the sons of God came town
and the sons of God or the angels, the fallen angels,
I should say, decided to concentrate on the Nephelene and
work with them to raise up the whole How can
I say, tribe of nations that they could control. Now,
think about this, if you're an evil spirit and you're
wanting to take over the earth, you're not going to
go to the shortest people or the meddle people, or
the overweight people. You're going to go to the biggest
and strongest people. Because if you're going to raise an army,
you're going to go to the strongest and biggest and
largest people. Out there and there are fossils of human
beings that are twelve feet tall that people will run across,
and they are possibly even taller. I could go into
things before the flood why human race was bigger and
smarter before the flood, but the bottom line is I
do not believe that these are half breed human and angels.
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. Derek, Yeah, this is interesting, and
just to jump in here really quick, this is interesting
on the darker side of science fiction. I don't know
if many people have seen it. Maybe many people may
have the movie Prometheus, which is actually somewhere embedded into
the alien not aliens from outer space, but the Alien series,
Like there's a Gorney Weaver alien that also talks about
a race of giants, but they go on another darker
path on this. But the point of the matter is,
see how in science fiction, which is cool. You know,
everybody can have their ideas of what monsters and things
might lie out there. But again, focusing on what you're
talking about, the Nephelene, that's an interesting I haven't heard
much or even know anything about them, so thanks for
enlightening us and Tony. Always a pleasure to hear what
you have to say about these great subjects with great guests.
Please continue, Derek before we run out of time.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, just just going back to Nepheline briefly, is that
because somebody asks Jesus, there's a question that comes up
in another context, and Jesus says that in the in
a new life, people will be like angels, because angels
are not do not marry and are not given in marriage.
So the idea that these angels are fallen angels actually
pro created with human beings, it's not that case. What
they did I believe is that they they how can
I say it? They possessed a baby Nepheline from birth.
And you know what you see a person who's possessed
by a demon, they are very strong. Can you imagine
if their baby was possessed by it from earth, by
a demon, how that would affect their life and their
ability and their strength. So you have a race of
giants possessed from birth. But the reason is is that
when God created angels, he didn't create them to pro
create like he did human beings. He created them there
was a certain number and that was it. And basically
so they're not And it's interesting you see in Greek
and Roman geology this idea of half man half gods
that sort of came out of this whole idea of
the Nephelene. But that wasn't really a half man, half
god because and another reason is you see pictures of
the grays and the other things, there are no genitals
on these beings, exactly strange. So their ability to affect
a new race is basically simply what they normally do
is possession, and God stopped that.
Speaker 3: Well, Derek, many people have said this is going into
deeper research. I'm sure many of our listeners can chime
in on this. That many of the so called grays
of the different species that are alleged to existing out
there in the cosmos, somewhat they I'm visiting us. Many
of them come in three, as they say, look at
the Barney and Betty Hill situation. Threes, threes. But here's
the important part. No genitalia on these grays. But the
simple way of looking at it. Many people have hypothesized
that they're really robotic entities, that they're not really the
quote entity of the alien itself. They're doing the work
like we have robots now. Elon Musk and all these
companies that that's what those messengers are that are transmitting
and traveling wherever they're traveling. However they're doing that transdimensionally
or in other ways. But I don't know. This is
just so fascinat but I want to remind the listeners
and we do our best always to get everybody on
the line. Francis in New York, please stay on if
I don't get you to this hour. Mike in Lower
East Side, Frank in the Bronx, and Jakin Massachusetts will
do everything we can if your patients can hold and
continuing to discuss with us our very special guests in
the Theater of the Mind. Derek warfilm author and filmmaker.
Go to his website to check out no matter what
your belief system is, ufosangodbook dot com, anything else I
left out before we close out Hour number one ways
to get in touch with you and some exciting things
that are coming up on your agenda schedule.
Speaker 7: Well, just go to the website. There's some podcasts there,
there's for some freebies there, some articles that I've written,
there's a trailer for the film. You know. Basically, there's
a lot of stuff there. So go there and if
you want, you can pre even pre order the book.
The book's coming out July. I'm sorry July. It's August twenty.
Speaker 3: Fistes for many.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, there you go, so it's not that far away.
And yes, that's what I would say. I would definitely
like to talk a little bit more about the idea
of robots. I've done some research on that.
Speaker 3: Sure, we have plenty of time. Absolutely, Okay, you know
that'd be something that we can get into. We go ahead,
We've got a few more minutes. And I hate the
rush people, but give us your intro to that. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you know. The concept is most people
have seen the film Avatar, right, yes, And a friend
that I met at La Marzouli said that basically the
one thing that hit him was maybe these are avatars
in these evil spirits do not do well in inhabiting
our three dimensional space. So what they do is they
have created like a what can I call it a
biological suit that they can enter into and maneuver in
our space. For example, we send we send robots to Mars.
We can't exist on Mars, okay, but we can send
a robot there control it and study Mars. Of course,
in the film Avatar, you have Jake basically was paraplegic
or quadriplegic and he couldn't move it all, but they
gave him a robotic body that he could go out
and travel in this planet. And it's entirely possible that
that's what we're seeing. Even in a UFO community, you're
hearing this term saber, which is synthetic. Let's see synthetic
autonomous biologue, robot. And I have heard some people, and
again this is secondhand, but there have been people who've
been abducted and taken on these ships and they see
almost what looks like a closet with a bunch of
hanging gray skins so to speak.
Speaker 3: Right, robotic suits or some kind of thing. Rdies are
not real. These are robotic entities that you're talking aboutout.
Speaker 7: Yeah, is there anything in the Bible that would validate that?
And there is. Jesus says that when a demon was
cast out of a person, they travel over waterless spaces
and looking to find some rest, they come back to
the person they were cast out of and enter that
person again. Well, what is the waterless space? I mean
sixty percent of our bodies are water. Okay, And if
you remember when Jesus was going to cast out a
demon from the demons, from the Garandine demoniac, they begged
him send to send to the pig, send us into
the pigs. They seem to need like a biological suit
to comfortably exist in our realm. Now, hoping angels don't
have that problem, but fallen angels may have lost the
ability to manifest in our three dimensional space without some
sort of biological suit. And there's one other thing that
proves that too, is that the people who study these
grades say that they will die. Well, angels don't die.
Speaker 3: And we got to take that break. Derek, You're on
a good role here more with Derek Warville back as
we manage the timespace continue in one, eight, four, eight,
nine to two to two two. How fast an hour
goes when you have great guests and amazing callers with
the concept of what's going on in the universe. The
author Derek Warville UFOs and God a biblical perspective that
might have some answers as we do deep research about
the mysteries around us. We'll be right back.
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But before we do that, a quick interlude as we
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Get set for a Falcon nine rocket booster that's going
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get as the beginning of August one of the great
meteor showers of the entire year, the Perseods. And for
those fortunate enough to be on the other side of
the globe. On the twelfth of August, starting from Iceland,
portions of Greenland and down off the areas of the
coast of Spain, another of the total solar eclipses. Let's
continue with our very special guest, and we continue by
going to the phone lines, and we welcome on line one,
Francis and New York. You've been patient here on with
Derek warfol How are you.
Speaker 16: Hi there. I'm not in New York anymore. I'm in Arizona.
But oh, this has been very interesting listening to this
because of some experiences I've had over the years, and
under anesthesia, I took an amazing trip and I didn't
see God, but I heard God and what he told me,
And someday I'll get it all to you. But I
do feel that we have spiritual beings around us, and
I think this split came from jealousy when an angel
wanted more power and then it became angry and evil
and that separated the good from the bad. And so
we deal with that today. But there's so many, so
much stuff that's happening that's going on now that's so
evil in the world. It's like people need to wake
up and realize where do they want to be forever?
Do they want to be with God or do they
want to be in an evil place.
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more Francis. And I'm sure, Derek, you have
a lot of inspiration to add to what Francis just said.
Speaker 7: I'm sure, oh absolutely, I think you know. The point
is that our consciousness will survive death. We live in
a body, and we have a body that one day
we will be resurrected. Everyone will the good and the evil.
Jesus talks about that, but the evil will go to tradition,
and the good will go to those who know, who
have accepted Jesus will go to be in heaven. And
the important thing is you need Jesus says himself. I
am the Way, the truth, and the life. It's almost
like it's not a car that's going to get there,
it's not a spaceship that's going to get there. It's
Jesus himself. And if you get to know Jesus, you
will be with him in heaven. And so that's the
thing I encourage ever to who's listening. If you've never
accepted Jesus, you need to do it. You need to
basically stop following your own desires and follow the one
who created you and you know, to give you the
most full and complete life and protect you from evil.
The one thing I want to get back to here
that you've mentioned is about the spirits. The apostle John says,
test the spirits, because not every spirit is from God,
and you've got to beware. And there's two major tests
that the Bible gives us. How do we know if
this is an evil spirit that's deceiving us, or a
holy spirit or a good spirit. The first test is
the test of doctrine, the teaching of the spirits. If
the spirits deny God's existence and say that they see
to us here, if they deny that Jesus is the
son of God. The apostle Paul says, if someone else
comes and teaches a different gospel, or even if we
came and taught a different gospel, even if an angel
came and taught a different gospel, let him be accursed.
And the gospel Paul teaches is very clear in First
Corinthians fifteen that Jesus came, who died for our sins,
who was resurrected, and you know he appeared to more
people after that. If you believe and follow Jesus, that's
the main thing. The second test is the one Jesus
gives us. He says, you'll know them by their fruits.
A bad tree can't produce good fruit. So you look
at the fruits, and what are the fruits of these
these space beings, the fruits are. They hurt people, They
take someone like Travis Walton, They destroy their lives. We
have people in our film whose lives have been completely
destroyed by these people. They share their faith that destroyed
their finances, their family, their health, and of course they
say to you, oh, we're not going to hurt you,
and then they hurt you. You know, so that there's
a sense in which you look at what they do
and look at the the fruits, and the fruits are bad.
You look at the teaching. The teaching is bad. This
is not a holy spirit, this is not a good angel.
This is an evil angel.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that perspective. And Francis, thank you
for being part of our show. Here the Doctor Guy
experience has heard around the world, around the world, and
what even otam to the eusmart Universe and Cosmos. Thank you,
Francis for being part of our program. Let's continue with
the callers. They've been very patient. Line number two, Mike
in the Lower east Side. Good morning, you're on with
Derek warfur Well, thanks to your patients.
Speaker 14: Go ahead, good morning, doctor's guy and Derek, Yeah, there's
there's you know, Jesus Christ I think said I'm going
to come back, like don't look for signs. Who wonder
I'm going to come back. I think his second coming
like a thief in a night, So be ready. You know,
but there's one story in the Bible where, you know,
speaking of a molecular structure, how Jesus Christ was able
to change his molecular structure will walk through walls and
stuff like that. And uh, there's one story in a
Bible where King wanted Israel curse. So he goes to
a prophet I think his name was Elijah. So he
takes his donkey and he goes he's going to Israel,
and all of a sudden, the donkey stopped and the
guy that with the prophet started whipping the donkeys. So
the donkey speaks to him and says, why you hit me?
He speaketh to him in language and he's why you're
hitting me? And then all of a sudden, the angel appeared.
First it appeared to the donkey. So that's why he stopped,
but then he appeared to the prophet you know, I
think it was Elijah and uh and and then he
realized that he wasn't going to go and curse Israel.
So yeah, you know, but there's one of the things
that I think we're made out of the image of God.
You know, Jesus Christ was God. And when we have
the power over angel to command Satan in the name
of Jesus Christ to leave us. So if you're getting attacked,
and you could prove it to yourself, if you're getting
attacked and attacked and attacked from the from the morning tonight,
and you got to know it's coming from an evil,
evil spirit. So and you say, in the name of
Jesus Christ, I command you Satan to leave. Eric or
doctor s guy, I want you could feel Satan leaving
your body, so you could prove it to yourself. Man,
God is real, Jesus Christ in real life. I've been
through it all. I tried to well, it was a
crazy bike in my life, my whole life, and I've
found the Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Man, God, blessings to you. Mike. Your story is very,
very impacting, Derek. How could anything that Mike's saying, not
be powerful. I mean, it's just so incredible. There you go.
Speaker 7: Well, no, he's absolutely right. He talks about actually the
prophet day One, who is kind of a false prophet,
but uh, and this king had hired him to go
and curse Israel. And he was riding a donkey, and
the donkey saw what Balem could not see, that there
was a literally angel standing in his path who would
destroy the donkey. And the donkey kept going off to
the side, and Balem beat the donkey. Said why are
you doing this? You're right first time in history. The
donkey spoke and said, take a good look. Well, I'd
say we probably have. Believe there's a lot of donkeys
that still speak today, but they wear political carb But
the bottom line is that the donkey could see this
invisible being here said possibly another dimension, and the same thing.
There's other examples. Elijah himself woke up one morning. His
servant woke up and looked to the hills, and he
saw this whole host of foreign army ready to come
and take you know, Elijah and his servants and beat
them up. And they were scared. And the servant said,
what are we going to do. And Elijah said, Lord
opened his eyes. And he opened his eyes and he
saw behind this whole army there was a host of angels.
And he realized, oh my gosh, they're there. I didn't
see them. And this gets back to the dimensional thing.
Let me, I didn't get to that earlier. But think
about this a second. We know that with one eye
you can see two dimensions, right, but you can't see
the third dimension with one eye. It's appears just to
be flat. But when you have two eyes, you can
perceive a third dimensional distance. Well, here here's the philosophy.
Suppose you see the creatures in the Bible, angels that
have many eyes. You know, maybe if you had four
eyes you could see another dimension.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 7: I don't know. But the bottom line is that we
can only see three dimensions. But maybe God give us
the ability to see more than three dimensions. And I'm
trying to think of some of the other things he
said about the seas in the night. He's absolutely right that,
you know I talked to before about Jesus said I
am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Yes, when
he comes back again, he will take those people who
believe in him to be with him. But if you're not,
if you haven't believed in him, the words are pretty rough.
I mean it says, when the Lord Jesus will be
revealed from heaven with its mighty angels in flaming fire,
that he will basically, you know, purse all those who
have rejected him and do not obey his gospel. So
you absolutely should be ready because there won't be a
lot of warning. It'll just come very rapidly.
Speaker 3: And so Mike, thank you in Lower East Side. Not
to cut everybody short here, but wow, you're really lighting
up the phone lines, and that's an indication to me
as the host that obviously it's a powerful subject. We'll
continue on line number three. We say hello and good
morning to Frank and the Bronx. You've been patient. You're
on with Derek warfour.
Speaker 18: Thank I'm try. Thank Derek. So a couple of things.
It almost against the devilic. So you know, God say
the universe. He praised science, the u S free world
and the willing to run with it. So today we
we tend to think about what's possible now, like for
the next few years. And when you think about the
crumple world, things done since us because it's hard to
comprehend what's possible life speed, it's positive stiric impossible in
the quantum world. We've had war Steed and I.
Speaker 13: Believe that.
Speaker 18: The Many station I don't have the land on it
on Earth by now, and you don't understand their meaning
is ahead of a fluey. They're ahead of up by
a lot, and so teleportation is not a magicerent thing
to think about. They can be and lo it and
Telephonte themselves doct versus them, Let's have the and well
whoever they are.
Speaker 3: So m hmm, Well, Frank, you bring up some good points,
but again it sounds like your phone no no disrespect
to you, is suffering from the solar flair effect there.
But Derek, I don't know if you heard much of
what Frank was saying there.
Speaker 7: If you want to call, I didn't. I didn't get
a lot. He said. I think something about what's possible
and what's not possible, right.
Speaker 3: I think I.
Speaker 7: Apologized, Frank. I really tried to. There's a lot of
clicking and it was kind of rough.
Speaker 3: Frank. Really, I appreciate you, my brother, for being part
of the show, just that we obviously had difficulty timing
hearing you. I don't know what it is. We're hearing
a lot of clicks in a lot of calls. Well,
we'll try to investigate what it is.
Speaker 7: But well I would I would say this, it gets back,
it gets back to you know. There's a quote again
I mentioned this maybe before from Arthur Conlin Doyle, the
guy who was the road about Sherlock Holmes, and there
was a dictum that he said. He says, once you
eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, is probably what's true,
you know. So, I mean the thing is, when you're
dealing with these areas of spiritual things, you can't always
nail everything exactly. God hasn't told us everything we'd like
to know. But what I tried to do in the
book is I try to eliminate the impossible, and once
that's out of the way, then you have a good
overview of what is really probable. And frankly, the idea
that these are that we can travel fast in the
speed of light, that we can do these other things,
I think that they're not possible. And you can tell
tell that these are not holy angels, they're not good
spirits by what they do and what they teach, and
they hurt people. I mean, it's interesting in the film
Disclosure Day, you know, it seems like the only people
who got hurt were the space aliens were in reality,
we have countlee examples in the book and in our
film where it's the humans that get hurt by these
beings who say we're not going to hurt you, and
then they do. They perform experiments on you, right.
Speaker 3: And we don't want to scare people. I mean, look,
we don't want to scare people. These are the opinions
of our guests. These are the opinions of people out there.
But again, as the host, I want to kind of
formulate this and focus it a little more with a laser.
And you're doing fine, and so are the callers. It
is that I want to get to more of your
experiences about different times in the Bible that we could
actually relate to about these mysteries, because the UFO phenomenon
is just not an eighty year old situation. But let's
continue as time permits here with as many of the
callers as we can get on in what we call
the Theater of the Mind. Line number five, Jake in
Massachusetts you've been patient. Good morning, Thank you, you're on
the air.
Speaker 12: Good morning, doctor guy in good the morning of the guest.
I wanted to ask you that either one of you
have followed the career of doctor Donald Hoffman from California,
the scientist from California.
Speaker 3: I have not, sir, But I don't know. Derek, have you?
Speaker 7: I don't tell me a little bit, please, I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Well, for the past forty years he's been studying the
nature of reality through actual scientific experiments, not religious experiments,
and he's come to he's written several books on the
nature of reality, and he's come to the conclusion that
as human beings, one of the chances that we see
reality as it really is, and he said it's zero percent,
and he's quite fractual about it in his books and
his zero percent. Now I'm going to tie this in.
I'm sure both of you have heard about neo death experiences.
Speaker 3: Correct, I've met many who've had them. I have not.
But what about you, Derek, you have ever had one?
Or no? People love that.
Speaker 7: I've never had a Dear Jess experience. I've studied a
little bit about it and read a lot about people
who've gone through that.
Speaker 12: Yes, I haven't had either, Derek, but I've heard maybe
five hundred near death experiences, and they're not they're not dreams,
they're not they're not fantasies. They are actual experiences like
you and I are talking right now, and these experiences
tie in. I believe not they talk to Donald Hoffman
has said this, but he said that since we don't
see reality as it is, he's trying to uncover the
real nature of reality. And he says he's around seventy
years old now, he's been studying this in a mathematical
way for forty years, and a lot of scientists have
jumped on board and his writings and have joined him
and a grained that what he said was evolution. The
evolution was for physical fitness, for the survival of the species.
And it got in the way of us seeing really reality,
whether you want to college, spiritual reality or whatever. It
got in the way of human beings seeing reality. And
it's fascinating. And he's been on a lot of interview
shows and podcasts and many many scientists have signed on
to him, as doctor Robert Lanzer of MIT and many
many other scientists.
Speaker 3: Well, Jake, would you do me a personal favor of
my email here just Drsky at WABC radio dot com
if you don't mind at your convenience, if you just
send me an email. I don't have the ability to
write everything right down here and take time away from
our guests and of course the callers. But what you're
saying is fascinating because again my relationship with doctor rodgerd
Mitchell of Apalla fourteen. Without going too much and be verbose,
he was obviously somebody that had the out of body
experience to the moon and back, laughed at by many
of his Apollo comrades. But the big thing is his
involvement with the Noetic Institute and what he called the
quantum hologram relates a lot to what you're talking about, Jake. Derek.
Sorry to cut you for short on that, but isn't
that fascinating what Jake's bringing up? Consciousness?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, absolutely. I wouldn't say that we have
no notion of reality. I would just say it's incomplete.
We have certainly a notion that when you see a
red light, you don't cross the street, okay, but there's
so much more that we don't see, you know. It's
like you know, the occult. The word occult means hidden things.
There's a lot we don't know. The Bible even says
in Deuteromy twenty nine twenty nine that the things revealed
are for us and our children, but the things not
revealed are for God alone, you know. And so there's
things God has told us and there's things he hadn't.
So I mean, but I disagree with the one thing
I would disagree with. Like Hinduism and Buddhism says we
live in a world of illusion. I don't believe that.
I believe that we live in a world of complete understanding,
and our assuming is is certainly limited. But I think
the other the thing about you're talking about near death
experiences is that there's so much more. There's a really
good book, Imagine Heaven, and it's for those who are Christians.
And you're worried about NDS. This guy's a Christian pastor,
and you know, I take everything with a lot of skepticism,
but as I read this, I realized that these people
experience something beyond the reality. And even the apostle Paul
talks about being caught up into the Third Heaven. He
was stoned and left for dead at one point, and
possibly he had a near death experience, and he said
he heard things inexpressible that he was not allowed to repeat.
And he kind of hints at that in First Corinthians
chapter one, where he says the eye is not seen,
the ear is not heard, nor is the tongue of
man able to express all that God has in store
for those that love him. In other words, basically, there's
a lot more to life than we see and hear.
So I would agree with this doctor that our understanding
of reality is very limited, but I wouldn't say it's
completely wrong.
Speaker 3: No, it's interesting. Jakin messagestts, thank you so much, and
I appreciate the information here. That's what this is all about,
right Derek, bringing people together yep, and having them express
their opinions. Excuse me on these amazing subjects that lie
out in the universe, and tying in again, ladies and gentlemen,
the connection between UFOs and God. Our special guest, Derek Warfow.
Excuse me, he continues with us, as we move toward
the bottom of our number two. What's fascinating. We have
about four minutes here before the big heartbreak. I wanted
to see if you can just describe to us, give
us a couple of quick examples, and maybe it takes
longer into the next part of what you talk about
in the Bible, experiences that the Bible writes about about,
like Jacob's wheel, I mean, things of this type, all
these amazing sightings that are recorded in the Bible. Give
us a couple of examples about what might be related
to UFOs or uap is in what you've studied.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I mean, there's certainly you know, there's
Ezekiel's wheels, where he basically said he had a vision
and he saw four angels and he saw this throne
that these angels are transported, and then there were wheels
beneath the thing and it looks a lot like a
machine that it also looks like angels, and you know,
it's it's it's a little hard to understand, but I
believe that angels do create and can create machines, you know,
So this idea that we would see flying saucers is
not weird. In other words, anything that we can do,
angels can do better. God created them much smarter, much
more powerful than we are. And so this concept that
you know, we look at these spacecraft, these flying saucers
that do these amazing things that even our best fighter
jets can't do. Doesn't mean that they weren't created by
fallen angels. The thing that's different about disappearance and maybe
other things in the past with the Egyptian gods and
the other gods, is that they're using machines. But that
shouldn't throw us off. I mean, angels can create machines
just like we can, and much better. For instance, the
Bible calls human sheep okay, cheap, are some of the
dumbest animals on the farm. Okay, they get lost, they
break their legs. The Bible never calls angels sheep. They
are very smart, very intelligent beings, and they're out to
trick us. They are the best, the fallen angels. They
are the best con men in the universe. And what
they're doing, I believe with this whole UFO thing, is
one huge con to get us to follow them, because look,
oh my gosh, look at these cramps. They can go
forty thousand to two hundred thousand miles an hour. They
can disappear. They don't have exactly they don't have a
sonic boom. They can do things we can't do. Maybe
we should be listening to them about the basic questions
of life. Why are we here? Who are we? What's
our purpose? You know? Why are we listening to this?
Thus the old prophet from two thousand years ago called Jesus,
you know, And I think it's a huge con because
they their primary goal when they rebel against God is
to get people to follow them and not God or Jesus.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll continue on the other side of the heartbreak
here the doctor Sky experience with the Theater of the
mind is getting filled in, but never too many people. Again,
you coun you too can be part of the conversation
one eight four, eight nine to two too. We will
do our very best to get Edgar in the Bronx
on Robert and Philadelphia, if Frank in Astoria and Lois
in Manhattan all very patient as we continue to move
deeper into the darkness of the cosmos. But on a
bright side, talk about the obvious opportunity to learn so
much from our special guest Derek warfol in his opinion
about how we can talk about and relate UFOs and
God and maybe they have some sort of biblical explanation
that is up to you in the Theater of the Mind.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: The Doctor Sky Experience entertaining and informative on the Red
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look to the sky seventy seven WABC.
Speaker 1: Now here's Doctor Sky.
Speaker 11: Cross the boundary into the unknown, where gravity bends, the
light and time itself stands still.
Speaker 19: This is the edge of existence, where everything ends and
eternity begins again. Past the event horizon. There is no
turning back.
Speaker 3: The Church has been caught off guard before by the Enlightenment,
by Darwinism, by liberal theology. UFOs are next, and the
church is largely unprepared. We must give believers the biblical
framework and answers they need, or culture will do it
for us. A quote from our special guest Derek Warfol
as we continue with thirty two minutes after the hour.
Amazing Derek, how time flies and the callers are still
coming in filling out a wonderful time. Here in the
Theater of the Mind. Line number four, we go to
Edgar and the Bronx. You've been patient, good.
Speaker 20: Morning, how are you, thank you, thank you. I just
want to make three quick point to find me. The
first one that movie with Rennie, the Daily Earth sitt
still one of the reasons, the main reason that that
Rennie came to the Earth with his little box is
to warn them that if they don't stop this, you know,
trying to bomb themselves in nuclear bombs, you know, because
they were they were polluting the solar system, so they
would they sent the Rennie in this robot to Earth
to warn them, if you don't stop polluting the you know,
the solar system, you know, we're going to have to
kill you. So that's that's a point that was made
in that movie that I want to swiss as.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, Edgar. This is amazing because one of
my favorite movies of all time, and if people look
at Deep Dive, Michael Rennie of course an incredible actor
of Days gone by. I'm a collector of I know,
people laugh at me sometimes of the video discs, you know,
the old laser discs, and I happened to find in
a store it was amazing, an entire collection signed by
the producer of that movie. And I had to get
it because I have a you know player that works.
But the point is it's one of my favorite you
brought up something very good, Derek. The interesting part about
that movie, please continue. It's just powerful.
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I saw that when I was twelve. It
was Saturday night that the movie is on, I think
one of the networks, and I remember I was like
sitting there recruiting good Barta Nick two, Baranda, Nick two.
You don't want to see the earth blown up?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 7: No, I think you know, certainly there is a warning about,
you know, our nuclear weapons, and even frankly, even these
UFOs today are repeating the same thing that they're concerned
about what we're doing to the environment and nuclear weapons.
But you know, I got to tell you that the
ones today they talk a lot about they talk of
good games, just like politicians. Oh this is terrible, but
you know what, they don't do anything about it. I
think that literally, uh, you know, at least from the
aliens today, it's a con It's not really, you know,
it's not I mean, there's a lot of other things
that could talk about, you know, I mean, we're I
think you're right that literally obviously, you know, you look
at Rake and trying to not just you know, limit
nuclear weapons, but get rid of them. And I think
that's something we can try to do. I don't know
we can ever put the genie back in the bottle.
Speaker 14: So to speak.
Speaker 7: You know, there's there's a story about the flying machine.
I forget who wrote it, but it was the short
story and it talked about this guy who went to
the a fictional story, went to the Emperor Japan and
he said, oh, look, I've developed this flying machine. We
can see what our enemies are approaching our walls. Because
everything was walls back then, as long as you had
a wall, you're okay. With a flying machine. It can
go over walls.
Speaker 13: And the.
Speaker 7: Emperor listened very carefully, and then when the guy had
been left the room, he told his man. He says,
kill the man to destroy the machine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: It's like literally, you know, but of course you can't
stop progress. It's you know, what you can do is
you need to try to limit these machines, to try
to get rid of nuclear weapons and everybody, I mean,
the Bible certainly talks about God gave us a commission
to take care of the world, not to destroy it.
You've got he told us not to worship it. And
there's certain elements in society today to believe we should
worship the earth. It is called guya worship, you know,
Mother Nature. Where do you think that came from?
Speaker 3: I hear you and it seems more powerful than ever.
But this is also a powerful conversation with Derek warfol
But here I want to add something to the conversation
that Edgar brought in from the Bronx. This is interesting.
Gorge sure the obvious gigantic robot that lends, you know,
with our good friend Michael Rennie. The interesting part about
that Edgar into the audience is that the actor Locke Martin,
very tall, over seven feet tall, was the guy that
they hired to do this. But here's the part that's
actually amazing from trivia from that movie. He had to
climb into this like foam suit and they could only
film a short amount of time with him in there
because it really wasn't you know, it must have been
hotter than hell. That's an intertan way to put it.
And that's interesting Edgar, because they only had a short
time to be able to shoot this, and a lot
of times he would want to be crawling out of
that thing. Imagine that you're in a foam suit and
you're supposed to move, but that's a little bit of
trivia from the day the Earth stood still. Thank you
Edgar and the Bronx. Let's continue here. A good friend
of ours and a regular caller to the Doctor Skuy
Experience Line one, Robert in Philadelphia, You've been patient.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Hi, Doctor Skuy is always just wonderful to
talk to you. I appreciate your show and your guests.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Now. I was raised in a children's home that was
run by Lutheran nuns and no horror stories. They were
wonderful women. They were very loving. They did suck a
good job with us, and they took us to church
and I went to Sunday School. I even read the Bible. Okay. Now,
I always have a positive view of Christianity and Christians,
but it never took with me. I've never seen evidence
of divinity, so I don't believe in divinity. I've also
never seen any proof that there's other dimensions. The only
reason we theorize about other dimensions is because our current
math doesn't work for our universe. So they're going to
tell us there's other dimensions. There must be. It sounds
like an excuse to me. I would suggest they go
check their math. Now having read the Bible, there's things
in there. I think the idea of putting all the
animals on a boat is an absurd idea. However, we
could create genetic banks. We could even put one in
orbit around Earth today if we wanted to, and nobody
saw that a thousand years ago. So trying to go
by what our limitations are to say what other million
year old civilizations in other parts of the galaxy might
be able to do is kind of arrogant to me. Okay,
we have no idea what will be capable of in
one hundred years, let alone a million years. I think
it's entirely possible that they're coming here A without us
C and M or B without us being told they're
coming here. We don't know, So I'm not saying this
is the way it is. It's just a possibility to me.
But I'm getting the impression that for me to wonder
about this scientific amazement time that we're living in, that
I'm somehow in league with the devil. And since I
have such a positive view of princidanity, I would never
call it a con so I did take a little
bit of unbridgediction. So my question is if it's okay
to say that I believe in Ufo when one lands
on the White House, is it also fair to say
that I believe in Jesus when he lands on the
White House?
Speaker 13: Long?
Speaker 3: Wow, Robert, interesting perspective, powerful stuff, Derek from your area
of religious you know experiences as an author, tell us.
Speaker 7: Boy, but that could take a couple of ances for
all that. But I will just talk about the thing
I haven't seen. Divinity.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 7: The Bible says there's two major proofs of God's divinity.
One is conscious that within everyone there is a conscious
attem tells us what's right or wrong. Why do we
even have that if everything is just random chance? And
the second thing, and probably the most important thing, is
creation itself. There's such complexity in design and interests in
creation that it's hard to explain apart from a superior
intelligence that's incredibly intelligent strengths. There's a story of a
man in Africa who lived in this tribe and they
worshiped the wind and the river and whatever. But he
just started looking at his hand one day and he
realized his hand was so complex. How did it work?
His parents didn't create his hand. He was born, and
people said, well, they talk about a god, and there's
some people two hundred miles away in this mission group
that talk about a god created everything. And I think
if you look at the complexity that exists in design,
in nature, in animals, in our own life, that literally
just to say, oh, it'll just came about by chance,
it's just almost impossible to believe. The other thing you
talked about is other dimensions. I guess you know, I
would say, again, how do you explain these beings that
simply you know are there. They we track them on
radar on their ships, and then they disappear. It's not
like they're going to another planet. They literally go off
the radar entirely. They've gone somewhere else, right beside where
we are. And the last thing about the Noah, there's
a really wonderful exhibit, and I believe it's Kentucky called
the Arc Experience. If you ever get a chance, go there.
I mean, they answer a lot of the questions that
you're asking because of what's absurd How could you have
that many animals on a boat? I mean, they have
done a lot of research to explain the possibility just logically,
how that's possible that. Obviously you only need a certain
number of You don't have it by species, you have
it by something larger than species, and they branch out anyway.
But if you ever go to the arc experient, it's
well worth going to.
Speaker 3: Well thank you for that information. Here we're almost and
I can I feel terrible life. Try to be like
the air traffic controller. We got to get the planes
in and out and make sure that they take off. No, no, no,
never be sorry. Hey, this is we have to run
it by the clock. Otherwise, can anybody out there in
cyberspace give us another alternative that would be interesting, a
transdimensional radio show that has no limitations. Not to be
a funny guy, but we'll be back here in just
a moment. What I wanted to mention a very big collash,
and I want to thank Robert and Philadelphia for his
insightful conference. Always yes to the show. There's this big
But this would take another thirty forty thousand hours to
cover the conflicts between Darwinism and creationism. That is a
subject that's extremely extremely volatile in many areas. To put
you in a light, you know that we're going to
explain it in two minutes but the reality of this
is it's such an amazing story when we talk about
what you're bringing to the table here and in my synthesis,
I'll do this very quickly before we go to the break.
It seems so far from being a listener from this
side as a host, that it looks like you're putting
this out there in your opinion, that you're seeing more
of this, that these UFOs are probably not entities that
are traveling through time and space with velocities, but more
likely somehow dimensional, and that in so many words, without
bunny words in your mouth, sir, that there's a distinct
difference between the good side the alien, you know, not
the alien the angels, and maybe not to scare people,
maybe there's another side to this that needs to be
explored deeper. What are these entities that are coming to
us like the Travis Walton experience, the Barney and Betty
Hill experience that may not be so friendly. And with that,
we'll be right back here on the Doctor's Sky Experience
and do our best to get everybody on the air,
and that's going to be a magic trick to do.
Before the clock runs out, We'll be.
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Speaker 1: Sky, Saudi.
Speaker 21: This is Jim Mars, author of Alien Agenda, the top
selling non fiction book on UFOs in the world, and
I'm here to say watch the sky, Doctor Sky. That
is right here on this station.
Speaker 3: Forty eight minutes after the hour, we continue as we
move their time and space. Derek Warfles, our guest author
and filmmaker. The callers continue to come into the Theater
of the Mind Online. Two. We welcome E Frank in
a story. Thanks for your patience you're on there.
Speaker 10: Yes, thank you for taking my phone call Doctor Sky.
I just want to ask your guest. You know, we're
a neighbor to the red planet Mars, and they have
sent up, you know, probes to search the Martian terrain
and see if there was ever some sort of water
life there at one time. I want to ask your guest,
is it possible that on Mars there was some sort
of cellular life that might have created uh, some sort
of alien life, because I you know, I used to
watch this series called The Martian Chronicles. It is a
very large and expensive fiction series of movies and films,
and they had a perspective on you know, a Martian
colony there that you know, evolved through an alien race
that didn't want the Earth people to go there. So
I know you probably are familiar with the Martian Chronicles.
Speaker 3: I've seen it in the past. I mean, I can't
comment on it, but let's move forward. Derek your response,
because again, Frank, I appreciate you, but the time, we're
trying to get as many people on with their.
Speaker 7: Questions, right, Well, I just one thing before I say that,
I just want to say I enjoy being on your
show with so many great people from New York. I
love the accent. One of the I always I listened
to ABC, KBC or WABC when I was in New
Jersey and New York is such. It says such have
been such a force in this country over many years,
and I see their forces trying to tear it apart.
And I just want to let you know in New
York that I pray for you guys, I really do,
because New York, the way New York goes, it affects
the country and in the world right and the world.
I so much enjoyed being on with you guys and
hearing that New York accent. I have. One of my
best friends is from Long Island, and he has to
straighten me out all the time. Anyway, getting back to
your point about Mars. You know, there's a lot about
this universe we don't know. Was there ever life on Mars?
You know there are scientists that say maybe there was,
maybe there was water source, maybe there was life. I
don't believe. I believe, you know, could. The question is
could could an almighty God have creative life on other planets?
Absolutely he could. I think the question is did he
What are the odds that he did? As a writer,
as a filmmaker, you know, I'm always trying to come
up with, you know, novel ways of looking at things,
creating things that may never have happened, simply to tell
a good story. I don't personally believe that God did
create life on another planet or that it evolved from
cellular life. I believe that literally, even people like Krik
people who have you know, studied the DNA molecule and
basically broken it down. You know, they were saying that
it's just too complex for it had come about by
chance on this planet or even the Mars. That literally there.
I mean, you can say maybe God created it and
developed it, but to say that it came about by
chance again this guess back to this whole evolution debate.
Let me just give you one example. The one person
we talked to at Reasons to Believe as an astrophysicist,
they ran a calculation. What would it take for just
by random collisions of articles happening even in the universe
it's as big as ours for even a simple bacterium
to come about by chance? And he said it was
ten to the five hundred and fifty six power to one.
That's ten followed by five hundred and fifty euros to one.
I mean, the odds against just one, not advanced life
but a simple bacteria. Now, by comparison, to win the
California State lottery, you just need odds of ten to
the ninth power to one. I mean, what a bargain,
you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, what a difference. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like literally the odds of that happening by
chance by just having some water and some cellular life.
I personally, I mean, sure anything can happen, right, I mean,
but when the odds are that high against it, I
you know you wouldn't go to Vegas and bet your
life on that, you know.
Speaker 3: Thank you Frank in the story, it's sorry to cut everybody.
Sure here trying to get as many people on with
a full and you know our obvious explanation and a
response line three Lois and Manhattan. You've been patient. You're
on with Derek Warvil. Good morning.
Speaker 9: Thank you for taking my call. I'm a first time caller,
and the reason I'm calling is because I got interested
in you have Fosned nineteen seventies, and by the mid
late nineteen eighties I already came to the conclusion these
were like interdimensional and evil. And the reason I came
to that conclusion was because every encounter that I read
about or heard about the fruit of it was always
something bad happened. The fruit was always bad. People got
the fear, the abduction, the probing, and the radiation sickness.
Everything was bad. I never heard of one encounter where
the encounter gave something positive, something good to humanity. Here
we're so advanced, we know your DNA and this and that,
here's the cure for this disease. So I don't want
to hear them say, oh, these aliens are here to
help us. Nonsense. Every encounter has been bad. And I
remember reading an article way back then about the Grays,
and I don't know where exactly was. I think it
was maybe South America, but I'm not sure. It was
so long ago, nineteen eighty and it said that the
Grays were appearing in this certain area and they would
appear in the house and the person would open the door,
and they would ask permission to come in, and they
couldn't come in the house unless they were giving permission.
Some people got scared to this and cried out in
the name of Jesus. You know, when they would mention
the name of Jesus, they would disappear. And in terms
of the physicality, I mean, it's very well known by
exorcists and Catholic first that the evil spirits work through
the five senses and the imagination. So the five senses,
they could make you see something or hear something, or
even feel a touch or something. And because they work
through the five senses and the imagination.
Speaker 3: No, you bring up some good points. Time is of
the essence here, and I know, Derek, I would love
you to have your respond to this, but I think
in due respect to a couple of other callers, we'd
like to go to line number four. Roger's calling us
from the great state of Idaho. You're on the air,
and I believe that'll close out this second hour. Sadly,
we'd love to have more time to do this, and
if we don't get you on the air, we do
thank you for being patient on the line. Roger and Idaho.
If you're with us, you're on with Derek Warfel.
Speaker 17: Yes, thank you doctor Sky for allowing me to be
a part of the Theater of the Mind. And Derek,
I see that your book is going to be released
next month and available on Your ebook is going to
be available for download on libby, which is available too
many libraries throughout the nation. I was wondering if it's
also going to be available in audiobook form.
Speaker 7: Not audio books yet that's I guess. If there's a
demand for it, we'll do it. They I think they
have a division. I'm a first time author on this.
I wasn't planning to write a book on UFOs. It's
just kind of like I was forced to it because
I just so much nonsense on this subject. You know that,
but I do appreciate you asking. I just want to
mention one thing to the prior caller, and this is
for everybody who's listening, that if for some reason you're
ever approached by one of these alien presences, understand that
Jesus will deliver you. We have an example in the
film where a guy was being lifted off his bed
by presences. He didn't want to go, and just in
the moment he called out, Jesus saved me and he
was dropped back on the bed. The name of Jesus
has authority over all these beings, and if you call
on him, he will help you. But yeah, thank you
for the interest in it. It's coming in. The book
is coming out soon. The website UFOs and god all
the information there's there's a lot of freebies there and
look for the film September eleventh. Because the film gives testimonies,
examples of people who've gone through this, and I think
we try to do a good job of being even handed,
but you have to make up your own mind.
Speaker 3: Well, Derek, Derek, No, no apologies for the time limitations,
but again, thank you for your expertise. Derek Warvill author
and filmmaker. You'd like to go to a website. It's
UFOs and godbook dot com. Thank you, Roger and Idaho.
Sorry we couldn't get you on. Robert and Riverhead or
Vinnie in West Virginia. Try us next time because we're
going to continue with this. My open door question to
you is would you be willing to come back here
and discuss this and further ince as time goes on.
Oh yeah, And I think that's awesome. It's an obvious,
simple answer, but I think it's a powerful one, very
interesting information here on the Doctor Sky experience. Not only
great guests but also the great callers that come in
with lots of inspiration and they stay on measure. This
is awesome. And they also think in the critical thinking
type of response, which is what's good here. Derek Warfel,
thank you so much. And I'm sorry for the shortness
of the two hours. We could probably do four hours
on this subject, and I'm sure we would have many more,
many more callers, So we'll do it again soon. And
I do thank you for being part of the Doctors
Guy experience.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you. Yeah.
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