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<v Speaker 3>coming up next to guests who've just gone back from

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<v Speaker 3>a weekend trip to Moscow, and all we got was

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<v Speaker 3>a lousy T shirt, It says Tremblin with the Kremlin.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that make Kim officially a Red fan? You have

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<v Speaker 1>Five Carcity Talk Station. No, I don't think we can

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<v Speaker 1>get him too defect and become a Reds fan. The

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<v Speaker 1>manamth legend that is here on the fifty five Carsey

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show every Wednesday at eight thirty. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Ennita Polaitano, and a hello from your dear friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Thomas Massey, who preceded you and wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>pass that along to the extent you weren't listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Oh thank you. Congressman Massey and I spent

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<v Speaker 2>about a half an hour together on my podcast two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and the numbers, of course were through the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>He has incurred the wrath of the White House. Too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one hundred percent correct. The defensive budget is already

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<v Speaker 2>at eight hundred and ninety billion, and the new budget

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<v Speaker 2>offers some mere five billion more. Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>voted against it as well, no matter what my Republican

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<v Speaker 2>masters or his Republican masters told them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it'd be nice if they did their jobs pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>to their job descriptions. As he explained in the last

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<v Speaker 1>segment the twelve appropriations bills, they just threw that whole

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<v Speaker 1>concept out the window for I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>years running. They don't do their job, They run up

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<v Speaker 1>to a deadline, and then they shove more spending down

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<v Speaker 1>our throats because of well urgency or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only intellectually honest person there shouldn't say it only,

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<v Speaker 2>but the foremost intellectually honest person there is Congressman Massie Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, has been threatened by the President of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, he was with.

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<v Speaker 2>Primary as opposition. Let them go ahead and try. Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Massey will either keep his seat in the House, become

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<v Speaker 2>the gin your senator from Kentucky, or become the governor

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<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I can count on my friends in the Commonwealth to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Congressome Massy. At least I believe that he

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<v Speaker 1>has been primaried in the past with absolutely zero's success.

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<v Speaker 1>So good Man and some great people in the Commonwealth

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him in office. How was it you flew them?

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<v Speaker 1>You flew to Moscow by way of Dubai, which I

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<v Speaker 1>got to kick out twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hours of flying if you count an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>half or two hour layover in Dubai, because thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden slash Trump sanctions, you cannot fly directly to

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<v Speaker 2>Moscow from an American or a Western European airport. Have

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<v Speaker 2>the sanctuous, impaired Moscow, not one bit. Moscow has a

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<v Speaker 2>hustle and bustle of midtown Manhattan. It is absolutely beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no filth, there are no homeless, there are

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<v Speaker 2>no potholes, there is great prosperity. The Russian Orthodox churches

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<v Speaker 2>are packed daily and on Sunday. Russian Orthodoxy has risen

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ashes of the old Soviet Union. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an extraordinary eye opener for me. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>very very very pleasant, hectic, but pleasant five days that

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, culminating in a two hour interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Minister lev Roth. There were three of us that

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<v Speaker 2>got to interview him, and his questions are very long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a q and A. His answers are very long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a Q and A like you and I have.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was marvelous to be able to interact with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he came over to me afterwards and we

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<v Speaker 2>chatted for a while. He used to live in the

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<v Speaker 2>same neighborhood that I live in in New York City

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<v Speaker 2>when he was the Russian ambassador to the UN, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was a remarkable time. The American public has a

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<v Speaker 2>Cold War perception of Russia, and that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>The sanctions have not damaged it. It is actually more

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<v Speaker 2>prosperous and economically independent than before the sanctions. The top

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<v Speaker 2>tax rate is ten ten percent. Of the free market

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<v Speaker 2>reigns and people are happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to interject, I've noted this and I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it to you in my reply to your wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>Columnich comes out tonight my weekend in Moscow. Have never

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<v Speaker 1>been in quite comprehend why we didn't normalize relations with

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<v Speaker 1>Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. They have

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<v Speaker 1>turned themselves around. They do have a tremendous amount of wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>as you observe. They of course ignore these climate nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not chasing their zero carbon emission's tail, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that wealth comes from their sale of oil

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<v Speaker 1>and natural gas, most notably a lot of European countries

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<v Speaker 1>who are chasing their tail in the name of zero

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<v Speaker 1>carbon emissions. But regardless of how the wealth is generated,

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity would be available there like it is in

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<v Speaker 1>China since the Nixon administration for investments. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have direct flights from the United States into China, Judge Nepolitano,

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<v Speaker 1>if I may be wrong on you, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We do. You're one hundred percent correct. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>we have that the Russians don't nine hundred foreign military

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<v Speaker 2>installations that we constructed and that we pay to maintain.

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<v Speaker 2>The Russians have twenty five, all of which are around

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<v Speaker 2>Russia and of strategic importance to the Russian military. Their

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<v Speaker 2>military budget is a fraction of ours, even though their

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<v Speaker 2>army is larger and a more forceful gathering than ours.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, not only did the Russia not suffering

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<v Speaker 2>the sanctions, Foreign Minister lev Roff's figures and no one's

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<v Speaker 2>challenged them, say that American industry lost three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty billion in income in the past three years during

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden Trump sanctions so who did the sanctions harm.

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<v Speaker 2>The answers rather obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>And the big question looming around is why why is

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<v Speaker 1>it like this? Is it the fearmongers who insist that

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<v Speaker 1>this evil Russian baron needs to be kept at bay

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of the fact they don't represent any existential

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<v Speaker 1>threat to us really other than the nuclear weapons they have,

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<v Speaker 1>but they haven't threatened the United States or United States

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<v Speaker 1>interest with them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the it's the iron grip that the military industrial

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<v Speaker 2>complex has on the American Congress and the American government.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not have that on Donald Trump, but they

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<v Speaker 2>certainly had it on Joe Biden and on all of

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<v Speaker 2>his predecessors. I was very disappointed, however, when President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>announced the resumption the opening of the Joe Biden pipeline,

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<v Speaker 2>which he had closed for two weeks, back to Kiev,

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<v Speaker 2>and the opening of the re engagement of the American

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence community back to Kiev and wherever they go in

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<v Speaker 2>that part of the world. I was very disappointed to

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<v Speaker 2>see that, because that continues the Biden nonsense of using

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine as a battering ram with which to disrupt Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you're paraphrasing Victoria Newland and Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>to drive Vladimir Putin from office. He's got an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent approval rating. If you go there you can

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<v Speaker 2>see why. I mean, it's a radically different country from

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<v Speaker 2>the one the Soviets left Yeltsen and Gorbachev, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't spend that much money on the military. I think

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<v Speaker 2>a divert it from your from your question. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was strainly impressed with what I saw well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Again I just I just, I just am beside myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But going to the cutting off of assistance to Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a foregone conclusion. Ukraine cannot win this conflict. It

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<v Speaker 1>is impossibility. I mean, even as we speak, the Russians

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<v Speaker 1>are making advances. There's been a thirty day ceasefire, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the the the incentive for them to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in the thirty day ceasefires because Donald Trump cut off

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<v Speaker 1>their intelligence and aid. Obviously he got the effect the

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<v Speaker 1>effect he wanted, which is the ceasefire. However, the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is now in Russia's court and what Vladimir Putin demands

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<v Speaker 1>in order to end the conflict remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get a sense from your conversation with Lavrov

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<v Speaker 1>What that might entail what the Russians are going to

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<v Speaker 1>demand by way of concessions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, it would. It would entail Ukrainian Putin has

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<v Speaker 2>announced this publicly. It would entail Ukrainian neutrality. It would

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<v Speaker 2>entail a promise of no NATO in Ukraine for as

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<v Speaker 2>long as NATO exists. It would entail the recognition of

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<v Speaker 2>the four Oblasts. An oblast could be compared to an

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<v Speaker 2>American state or a Canadian province. That's just the Russian

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<v Speaker 2>word for it. The recognition of the four oblasts in

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<v Speaker 2>eastern Ukraine, now all under the control of the Russian military,

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<v Speaker 2>are in fact parts of Russia, the acknowledgment that Crimea

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<v Speaker 2>is part of Russia. As Lensky can't agree to any

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<v Speaker 2>of this, which is why when Secretary of State Rubio

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<v Speaker 2>says we have a ceasefire agreement, the ball is in

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<v Speaker 2>Russia's court, he knows that Russia is going to reject it.

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<v Speaker 2>In the small talk that I had with Foreign Minister Lavrov,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, is there any circumstance under which President Putin

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<v Speaker 2>would accept a ceasefire short of the achievement of all

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<v Speaker 2>of your five goals, which I've just ticked off, and

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<v Speaker 2>he looked at me and he said no. And Marco

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<v Speaker 2>Rubio knows that. So why is marcor Rubio taunting them

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<v Speaker 2>in public? What is that going to accomplish other than

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<v Speaker 2>to send Marco Rubia back to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>So that necessarily, if this all plays out the way

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, and I have every reason to believe it will,

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<v Speaker 1>then the war goes on and Russia continue to make

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<v Speaker 1>inroads into Ukraine. It could conceivably take over the entire country,

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<v Speaker 1>although I can't imagine that will be to its advantage

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<v Speaker 1>because it has to make.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want the entire country. They just want those

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<v Speaker 2>four oblasts, which are Russian culturally, Russian, historically Russian speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>Russian Orthodox Church, not Ukrainian Russian Orthodox the one that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to when I was there. And neutrality for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there was an agreement negotiated by the Zilin

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<v Speaker 2>government agreed to buy the Russian government. Was one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty six pages long. Every page was initial and

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<v Speaker 2>it provided for Ukraine to become like Austria, free, independent, prosperous,

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<v Speaker 2>andral No, NATO neutral, and Joe Biden sent Boris Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the British Prime Minister to Kiev, saying, tell him

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<v Speaker 2>not to sign it, tell him we'll back him up,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll beat Russia, will drive Putin from office, and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a place in history. Well it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That way, No, it didn't. And you got a question

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<v Speaker 1>what Biden's motivation was for that. I mean, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make me try and give him credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Has a Cold War mentality and believes that Russia today

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<v Speaker 2>is the same as the old Soviet Union, a threat

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<v Speaker 2>to freedom, peace and prosperity. And it's not. President Putin

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<v Speaker 2>would love nothing more than what Elsair Crook calls the

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Reset, an opening of the United States and Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>total opening to cultural and financial interchange to the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of both. We never had that under the Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't want it. We tried to restrain them. They

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<v Speaker 2>run the economy, they run freedom, They crushed the church.

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<v Speaker 2>Russia is the opposite in all of those areas today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's why I said, in the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union, we would have been a position, if

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<v Speaker 1>we normalize relations with them after that, to have shaped

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<v Speaker 1>that environment and to have assisted them and to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in trade. And this reform, and all these positive and

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<v Speaker 1>good that's come within the Russian economy post Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have come about a lot earlier, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would have been able to take advantage of me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, whati you, American President. They can't stand This

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<v Speaker 2>might surprise you. When Jim Baker and George W. Bush

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<v Speaker 2>talked Mikhail Korbachef into releasing East Germany and letting it

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<v Speaker 2>unite with West Germany in the form Germany as we

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<v Speaker 2>know it today, they both promised to President Gorbachef that

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<v Speaker 2>NATO would not move one inch farther eastward, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kept that promise. Who succeeded George H. W. In the

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<v Speaker 2>White House who got Poland to join NATO and began

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<v Speaker 2>arming Ukraine, William Jefferson Clinton. They just have a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very negative view of Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your reminding my listeners that it was Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>who did judge Jennita Polaitano a wonderful conversation. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your being on the program every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic little I'm just a little ex judge from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I doing in this grand mansion with Saraghen Labrov?

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<v Speaker 2>It was mind boggling. It was almost like an out

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<v Speaker 2>body experience for a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>You've come a long way from your time on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>You're honor. We got to all acknowledge that, and with

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<v Speaker 1>good reason. I'll look forward to next week in another

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful conversation. Take care of my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, all the best, all the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, forty three fifty five krs the talk station. Stick

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<v Speaker 1>around and be right back fifty five r