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Speaker 3: a weekend trip to Moscow, and all we got was
Speaker 3: a lousy T shirt, It says Tremblin with the Kremlin.
Speaker 3: Is that make Kim officially a Red fan? You have
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Speaker 1: get him too defect and become a Reds fan. The
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Speaker 1: Morning Show every Wednesday at eight thirty. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Judge Ennita Polaitano, and a hello from your dear friend,
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey, who preceded you and wanted me to
Speaker 1: pass that along to the extent you weren't listening.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Oh thank you. Congressman Massey and I spent
Speaker 2: about a half an hour together on my podcast two
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and the numbers, of course were through the roof.
Speaker 2: He has incurred the wrath of the White House. Too bad.
Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent correct. The defensive budget is already
Speaker 2: at eight hundred and ninety billion, and the new budget
Speaker 2: offers some mere five billion more. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 2: voted against it as well, no matter what my Republican
Speaker 2: masters or his Republican masters told them.
Speaker 1: Well, it'd be nice if they did their jobs pursuing
Speaker 1: to their job descriptions. As he explained in the last
Speaker 1: segment the twelve appropriations bills, they just threw that whole
Speaker 1: concept out the window for I don't know how many
Speaker 1: years running. They don't do their job, They run up
Speaker 1: to a deadline, and then they shove more spending down
Speaker 1: our throats because of well urgency or something.
Speaker 2: And the only intellectually honest person there shouldn't say it only,
Speaker 2: but the foremost intellectually honest person there is Congressman Massie Well,
Speaker 2: I understand, has been threatened by the President of the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he was with.
Speaker 2: Primary as opposition. Let them go ahead and try. Thomas
Speaker 2: Massey will either keep his seat in the House, become
Speaker 2: the gin your senator from Kentucky, or become the governor
Speaker 2: of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I can count on my friends in the Commonwealth to
Speaker 1: vote for Congressome Massy. At least I believe that he
Speaker 1: has been primaried in the past with absolutely zero's success.
Speaker 1: So good Man and some great people in the Commonwealth
Speaker 1: to keep him in office. How was it you flew them?
Speaker 1: You flew to Moscow by way of Dubai, which I
Speaker 1: got to kick out twenty.
Speaker 2: Hours of flying if you count an hour and a
Speaker 2: half or two hour layover in Dubai, because thanks to
Speaker 2: the Biden slash Trump sanctions, you cannot fly directly to
Speaker 2: Moscow from an American or a Western European airport. Have
Speaker 2: the sanctuous, impaired Moscow, not one bit. Moscow has a
Speaker 2: hustle and bustle of midtown Manhattan. It is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2: There is no filth, there are no homeless, there are
Speaker 2: no potholes, there is great prosperity. The Russian Orthodox churches
Speaker 2: are packed daily and on Sunday. Russian Orthodoxy has risen
Speaker 2: out of the ashes of the old Soviet Union. It
Speaker 2: was an extraordinary eye opener for me. It was a
Speaker 2: very very very pleasant, hectic, but pleasant five days that
Speaker 2: I was there, culminating in a two hour interview with
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister lev Roth. There were three of us that
Speaker 2: got to interview him, and his questions are very long.
Speaker 2: It's not a q and A. His answers are very long.
Speaker 2: It's not a Q and A like you and I have.
Speaker 2: But it was marvelous to be able to interact with him.
Speaker 2: And then he came over to me afterwards and we
Speaker 2: chatted for a while. He used to live in the
Speaker 2: same neighborhood that I live in in New York City
Speaker 2: when he was the Russian ambassador to the UN, so
Speaker 2: it was a remarkable time. The American public has a
Speaker 2: Cold War perception of Russia, and that's not the case.
Speaker 2: The sanctions have not damaged it. It is actually more
Speaker 2: prosperous and economically independent than before the sanctions. The top
Speaker 2: tax rate is ten ten percent. Of the free market
Speaker 2: reigns and people are happy.
Speaker 1: And I have to interject, I've noted this and I
Speaker 1: mentioned it to you in my reply to your wonderful
Speaker 1: Columnich comes out tonight my weekend in Moscow. Have never
Speaker 1: been in quite comprehend why we didn't normalize relations with
Speaker 1: Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. They have
Speaker 1: turned themselves around. They do have a tremendous amount of wealth,
Speaker 1: as you observe. They of course ignore these climate nonsense.
Speaker 1: They're not chasing their zero carbon emission's tail, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that wealth comes from their sale of oil
Speaker 1: and natural gas, most notably a lot of European countries
Speaker 1: who are chasing their tail in the name of zero
Speaker 1: carbon emissions. But regardless of how the wealth is generated,
Speaker 1: the opportunity would be available there like it is in
Speaker 1: China since the Nixon administration for investments. I think we
Speaker 1: have direct flights from the United States into China, Judge Nepolitano,
Speaker 1: if I may be wrong on you, yeah.
Speaker 2: We do. You're one hundred percent correct. You know what
Speaker 2: we have that the Russians don't nine hundred foreign military
Speaker 2: installations that we constructed and that we pay to maintain.
Speaker 2: The Russians have twenty five, all of which are around
Speaker 2: Russia and of strategic importance to the Russian military. Their
Speaker 2: military budget is a fraction of ours, even though their
Speaker 2: army is larger and a more forceful gathering than ours.
Speaker 2: And you know, not only did the Russia not suffering
Speaker 2: the sanctions, Foreign Minister lev Roff's figures and no one's
Speaker 2: challenged them, say that American industry lost three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty billion in income in the past three years during
Speaker 2: the Biden Trump sanctions so who did the sanctions harm.
Speaker 2: The answers rather obvious.
Speaker 1: And the big question looming around is why why is
Speaker 1: it like this? Is it the fearmongers who insist that
Speaker 1: this evil Russian baron needs to be kept at bay
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact they don't represent any existential
Speaker 1: threat to us really other than the nuclear weapons they have,
Speaker 1: but they haven't threatened the United States or United States
Speaker 1: interest with them.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the iron grip that the military industrial
Speaker 2: complex has on the American Congress and the American government.
Speaker 2: They may not have that on Donald Trump, but they
Speaker 2: certainly had it on Joe Biden and on all of
Speaker 2: his predecessors. I was very disappointed, however, when President Trump
Speaker 2: announced the resumption the opening of the Joe Biden pipeline,
Speaker 2: which he had closed for two weeks, back to Kiev,
Speaker 2: and the opening of the re engagement of the American
Speaker 2: intelligence community back to Kiev and wherever they go in
Speaker 2: that part of the world. I was very disappointed to
Speaker 2: see that, because that continues the Biden nonsense of using
Speaker 2: Ukraine as a battering ram with which to disrupt Russia.
Speaker 2: And even if you're paraphrasing Victoria Newland and Hillary Clinton
Speaker 2: to drive Vladimir Putin from office. He's got an eighty
Speaker 2: two percent approval rating. If you go there you can
Speaker 2: see why. I mean, it's a radically different country from
Speaker 2: the one the Soviets left Yeltsen and Gorbachev, and they
Speaker 2: don't spend that much money on the military. I think
Speaker 2: a divert it from your from your question. But I
Speaker 2: was strainly impressed with what I saw well, and.
Speaker 1: Again I just I just, I just am beside myself.
Speaker 1: But going to the cutting off of assistance to Ukraine,
Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion. Ukraine cannot win this conflict. It
Speaker 1: is impossibility. I mean, even as we speak, the Russians
Speaker 1: are making advances. There's been a thirty day ceasefire, and
Speaker 1: that was the the the incentive for them to engage
Speaker 1: in the thirty day ceasefires because Donald Trump cut off
Speaker 1: their intelligence and aid. Obviously he got the effect the
Speaker 1: effect he wanted, which is the ceasefire. However, the ball
Speaker 1: is now in Russia's court and what Vladimir Putin demands
Speaker 1: in order to end the conflict remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: Do you get a sense from your conversation with Lavrov
Speaker 1: What that might entail what the Russians are going to
Speaker 1: demand by way of concessions.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it would. It would entail Ukrainian Putin has
Speaker 2: announced this publicly. It would entail Ukrainian neutrality. It would
Speaker 2: entail a promise of no NATO in Ukraine for as
Speaker 2: long as NATO exists. It would entail the recognition of
Speaker 2: the four Oblasts. An oblast could be compared to an
Speaker 2: American state or a Canadian province. That's just the Russian
Speaker 2: word for it. The recognition of the four oblasts in
Speaker 2: eastern Ukraine, now all under the control of the Russian military,
Speaker 2: are in fact parts of Russia, the acknowledgment that Crimea
Speaker 2: is part of Russia. As Lensky can't agree to any
Speaker 2: of this, which is why when Secretary of State Rubio
Speaker 2: says we have a ceasefire agreement, the ball is in
Speaker 2: Russia's court, he knows that Russia is going to reject it.
Speaker 2: In the small talk that I had with Foreign Minister Lavrov,
Speaker 2: I said, is there any circumstance under which President Putin
Speaker 2: would accept a ceasefire short of the achievement of all
Speaker 2: of your five goals, which I've just ticked off, and
Speaker 2: he looked at me and he said no. And Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio knows that. So why is marcor Rubio taunting them
Speaker 2: in public? What is that going to accomplish other than
Speaker 2: to send Marco Rubia back to Florida.
Speaker 1: So that necessarily, if this all plays out the way
Speaker 1: you mentioned, and I have every reason to believe it will,
Speaker 1: then the war goes on and Russia continue to make
Speaker 1: inroads into Ukraine. It could conceivably take over the entire country,
Speaker 1: although I can't imagine that will be to its advantage
Speaker 1: because it has to make.
Speaker 2: They don't want the entire country. They just want those
Speaker 2: four oblasts, which are Russian culturally, Russian, historically Russian speaking,
Speaker 2: Russian Orthodox Church, not Ukrainian Russian Orthodox the one that
Speaker 2: I went to when I was there. And neutrality for Ukraine.
Speaker 2: You know, there was an agreement negotiated by the Zilin
Speaker 2: government agreed to buy the Russian government. Was one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty six pages long. Every page was initial and
Speaker 2: it provided for Ukraine to become like Austria, free, independent, prosperous,
Speaker 2: andral No, NATO neutral, and Joe Biden sent Boris Johnson.
Speaker 2: Then the British Prime Minister to Kiev, saying, tell him
Speaker 2: not to sign it, tell him we'll back him up,
Speaker 2: We'll beat Russia, will drive Putin from office, and he'll
Speaker 2: have a place in history. Well it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: That way, No, it didn't. And you got a question
Speaker 1: what Biden's motivation was for that. I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make me try and give him credit.
Speaker 2: Has a Cold War mentality and believes that Russia today
Speaker 2: is the same as the old Soviet Union, a threat
Speaker 2: to freedom, peace and prosperity. And it's not. President Putin
Speaker 2: would love nothing more than what Elsair Crook calls the
Speaker 2: Grand Reset, an opening of the United States and Russia,
Speaker 2: total opening to cultural and financial interchange to the benefit
Speaker 2: of both. We never had that under the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2: We didn't want it. We tried to restrain them. They
Speaker 2: run the economy, they run freedom, They crushed the church.
Speaker 2: Russia is the opposite in all of those areas today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I said, in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, we would have been a position, if
Speaker 1: we normalize relations with them after that, to have shaped
Speaker 1: that environment and to have assisted them and to engage
Speaker 1: in trade. And this reform, and all these positive and
Speaker 1: good that's come within the Russian economy post Soviet Union
Speaker 1: probably would have come about a lot earlier, and we
Speaker 1: would have been able to take advantage of me.
Speaker 2: You know, whati you, American President. They can't stand This
Speaker 2: might surprise you. When Jim Baker and George W. Bush
Speaker 2: talked Mikhail Korbachef into releasing East Germany and letting it
Speaker 2: unite with West Germany in the form Germany as we
Speaker 2: know it today, they both promised to President Gorbachef that
Speaker 2: NATO would not move one inch farther eastward, and they
Speaker 2: kept that promise. Who succeeded George H. W. In the
Speaker 2: White House who got Poland to join NATO and began
Speaker 2: arming Ukraine, William Jefferson Clinton. They just have a very,
Speaker 2: very negative view of Clinton.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your reminding my listeners that it was Clinton
Speaker 1: who did judge Jennita Polaitano a wonderful conversation. I appreciate
Speaker 1: your being on the program every Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Fantastic little I'm just a little ex judge from New Jersey.
Speaker 2: What am I doing in this grand mansion with Saraghen Labrov?
Speaker 2: It was mind boggling. It was almost like an out
Speaker 2: body experience for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: You've come a long way from your time on the bench.
Speaker 1: You're honor. We got to all acknowledge that, and with
Speaker 1: good reason. I'll look forward to next week in another
Speaker 1: wonderful conversation. Take care of my friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, all the best, all the best.
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