WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.640 This is Pod Popular Podcast for the People, The. 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:09.919 Great Love Debate. 3 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:16.079 It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's 4 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.000 a Great Love Debate. Hi, Jenny, watch Brian how We 5 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:22.399 welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.320 dating relationship podcast. It's twenty fifteen. I'm back here in 7 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 the very fine studios of Pod Popular Podcasts for the People. 8 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.039 I'm with the one in Scottsdale, Arizona. There's a renovation 9 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:34.079 going on in here, so if you come here in 10 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:36.000 the near future, you'll be like, Wow, what do they 11 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.159 do to that place? I hope, But it's a nice 12 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.200 time you're here. It's the full Scott's Dazzle going on 13 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:46.079 here in the valley. A lot of people come to us, 14 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:47.640 or they listen to the show, or they come to 15 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.359 our live shows, and they talk about, well, they haven't 16 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.000 had a whole lot of success dating, or their first 17 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.640 dates aren't turning into second dates, or they're not getting 18 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.600 any hits on their online dating profile, et cetera, et cetera. 19 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.560 At it infinite them. And a lot of that is 20 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.239 just timing, and a lot of that is is bad luck, 21 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.560 and a lot of that is you haven't been at 22 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.400 it long enough, but way too much of it is 23 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.000 you don't look your best. People. You don't look that good. 24 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.000 I don't look that good. There's another level that you 25 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.480 could take your game to that you probably haven't thought 26 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.280 about it. So I brought in a pro here today. 27 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.519 Who's gonna help me? And you guys try and look 28 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:28.599 and feel our best because how you look and how 29 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:34.159 you feel and your confidence level means everything. Jacqueline Murray, 30 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:37.000 how are you? She's a estetis I want to get 31 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:37.920 your qualifications right? 32 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:39.799 Esthetician not an esthetician? 33 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.599 Not an esthetician? Is that below? You take that? 34 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:44.799 No? Or I can't take that. 35 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:46.920 You're a SPA owner. 36 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.840 Technically, yes, I'm a nurse injector, so I say, like 37 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:55.040 an aesthetic nurse injector, but I'm not an esthetician. They 38 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.159 go to like a little school and like go through 39 00:01:58.159 --> 00:01:59.480 all those things. I did not do that. 40 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.480 Can you can be botox right now? Yes? 41 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.519 I don't have it with me. But if I did? 42 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:04.719 Do you have botox in your car? 43 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:05.079 No? 44 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.560 Is botox a thing? Still? Is that still? Number one? 45 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:09.080 Of course? 46 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.280 So Filer's, well, we're gonna get in all that. Yeah, 47 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:13.960 somebody comes to you generally what is the most popular 48 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:16.599 thing you're looking to do just to shot between the 49 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:17.960 eyes and it perks it all up. 50 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:19.759 Yeah, So I think it's kind of funny we do 51 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.080 say neurotoxin is kind of how we're trying to say 52 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.000 it because botox is brand name, So neurotoxin we kind 53 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:31.520 of say is like a gateway drug, like a gateway medication. 54 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.800 People start with that. Yeah, like let's start with a 55 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:35.400 little a little botox, and. 56 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.159 Then you get addicted and then you just want to 57 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.199 do other things, like you don't have to go over 58 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.960 the top, especially like the way I practice. I try 59 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.560 to help people look very natural, but you know, just 60 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.439 make those subtle tweaks to help them look more well 61 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:55.240 rested or to help their skin. It's not just neurotoxin 62 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.960 and filler. There's there's a huge world around aesthetics that 63 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:03.319 can just help your overall skin and replenishables volume. 64 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.319 Well, let's talk about that because there's obviously sleep and 65 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.479 hydration goes a long way, and we are in a 66 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:12.800 place that is really tough. It's rough on the skin here, right, 67 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.919 but a lot of people look really good and young here. 68 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.479 Do we have you to thing for that? 69 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.520 You and your colleagues, we probably have the most. I 70 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.360 would not be surprised if we have the most medspas 71 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.639 per capita in the US, or nurse injectors, just because 72 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:32.080 the laws around owning a business in a medspot in 73 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.840 Arizona different than a lot of other states. 74 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:36.560 So you mentioned it. It's kind of a gateway dreg. 75 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.919 So somebody comes in there and they do like, let's 76 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:41.439 see what we can do to make you. People want 77 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.039 to look younger, they want to look more refreshed, they 78 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.800 want to they want to look better. Where do you start? 79 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.800 Where do you start? How do you analyze somebody? Because 80 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.479 you're not like taking blood here, you're basically you're using 81 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.439 your eyeballs. Yeah, and you can't be offensive, or maybe 82 00:03:56.439 --> 00:04:00.000 you can. You can't just be like god that ship. Really. 83 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.000 I try to ask, like, do you mind if I 84 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.039 point out some other things we could work on, because 85 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.319 some people just want to address the lines on their forehead. 86 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.719 That's it. They do not want you to point out 87 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.960 everything else, right, So I try to ask, but I 88 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:16.279 would say, yeah, biggest thing is I have them tell 89 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.079 me why they're in my chair, Like what bothers you? 90 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:20.920 When you look in the mirror? What is the number 91 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.959 one thing that you are displeased with? Or when you 92 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.040 look at a photo of you, you know, like like 93 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.120 anytime we look at a picture of ourselves, we always 94 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.879 look at that one thing we hate about ourselves. So 95 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.079 it's kind of like, what's that thing, and then let's 96 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.160 start there, because if I don't help improve that, but 97 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.480 I improve other things, you're still not going to be happy. 98 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.600 You're still going to see that thing you hate. Aesthetics 99 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:49.360 is not plastic surgery. So I am very honest. Sometimes 100 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:53.079 if what you want is plastic surgery, I will tell 101 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.360 you that. But first, a lot of people it's you know, 102 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:00.399 these static lines in their forehead or the sundown image 103 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:05.399 on their face, or the sagging in their face, their jowl, sagging. 104 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.240 The neck, which I need. Yeah, nothing really fixes that. 105 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.720 Butt surgery, yeah, I would suggest plastics. 106 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.040 That's the dirty little secret. You can inject shit all 107 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.879 you want, and it's you still look like a turkey. Yep. Yeah, 108 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.240 but people look at you, and so you know, botox 109 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.480 does work. A lot of people wait too long to 110 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.319 get it done and then they panic and uh, and 111 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:29.399 they just overshoot themselves. But there's a way to do it. 112 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.639 It looks natural. I had a a plastic surge because 113 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:35.920 he's a plastic surgeon friend of mine, and I asked 114 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.480 him about like all the overinflated lips, Yeah, especially in 115 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.839 LA And I go, why do people do that? It 116 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:43.759 never looks good? He goes, you only notice the bad ones. 117 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.079 He's like, there's so many that are awesome, and you 118 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.759 think they're perfectly natural. And that's the goal, right to 119 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:53.480 make it look like somebody looks great without making it 120 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.920 look like somebody got something done. Yep. Yeah. 121 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.879 We always say a good injectable is undetectable, So I 122 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.279 do get in that. I wouldn't call it an argument, 123 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:06.240 but I try to just educate people, like when it 124 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.240 is done right. I mean, we're spending thousands and thousands 125 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.040 of dollars on training and being educated, and the aesthetic 126 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.839 industry has come such a long way just in the 127 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:19.000 past fifteen ten years on the type of fillers we have. 128 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.360 So it's not like we're using the same filler all 129 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.319 over your face. Well, now we have fillers that we 130 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.319 would put around your smile lines, your lips. 131 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.639 Is that wrestling that's a. 132 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.519 Whole line like Loherama. 133 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.759 So yeah, rest I'm uneducated exactly. But I'm a guy, 134 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.399 so that brings that up. Are guys doing this now, 135 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:37.639 I would. 136 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:38.920 Say, And I'm sure they've been doing it for a 137 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:44.439 very long time. I do think so many people have 138 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.959 been doing aesthetics since Botox came out. But we didn't 139 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.360 have Instagram the way we do, We didn't have Facebook. 140 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.399 Nobody was talking about it. 141 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.480 And botox has become more mainstream. Botox once it hits Ohio, 142 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.600 it's everywhere. But for a while, you know, even yoga 143 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.399 was like a Los Angeles, New York thing, yes was. 144 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:02.839 You know, things get into the country now like it's 145 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.079 very common to do. But botox now is the same 146 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.360 as coloring your hair. For a lot of women, it's 147 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:09.279 not something they hide. It's not that they're shamed of. 148 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.800 And it's like I want to look good. You know, 149 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.240 a lot of women you hear them sort of brag 150 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:17.639 about like, oh look, i've never had botox. Who cares? Like, 151 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.439 who cares? As long as you look good? Look good? 152 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.120 And a lot of I won't even just say women 153 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:26.600 people are afraid that once they give in and they 154 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:30.399 have to go see you, it's like a line they 155 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.000 don't want to cross. No, pun intended, but really it 156 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.120 shouldn't be any different I think from the people I 157 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.000 know who do this than going to your hair salon. 158 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.680 It's really just trying to touch the It's getting rid 159 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.319 of your gray hair. Right. A wrinkle is essentially aging, 160 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.160 which is essentially gray hair, and you have no problem 161 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.279 touching that up. So I don't know why you would 162 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:52.399 be reluctant to mess with the face. 163 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:57.439 No, and that's actually one again, not argument, but something 164 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.240 I kind of touch on a lot is like, Okay, 165 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.079 we're going to bash people for doing botox or filler 166 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.600 to change their appearance, which we're not changing your appearance 167 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.160 or just botox does not change your appearance. It just 168 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:13.079 makes it to where you can't animate. But for the 169 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.399 most part, right now I don't have any. But it's 170 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:17.800 not like my face would look any different. You would 171 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:19.680 maybe just think I'm not moving my eyebrows. 172 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.319 There's a lot of people expressive. 173 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.240 There's so many people who are not expressive, So you 174 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:25.720 might sit there or that. 175 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.959 Someone else's at jokes or if someone else. 176 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.160 Might judge them and think they have botox, right, because 177 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.279 now that's in everyone's head, But like, no, maybe that 178 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:34.440 person just doesn't raise her. 179 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:35.799 She just didn't like me. 180 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:38.679 I just had a client in her forties. She had 181 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.559 no static lines and when I would ask her to 182 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.840 raise she maybe had one line. She had no crows. Right, 183 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.240 But I guarantee you sheets people every day who think 184 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.120 she's getting botox. But that's just her genetics, that's her skin, 185 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:53.080 that's her tissue. So but yeah, that's one thing I 186 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.320 say is like people will say you're changing your appearance 187 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.200 with botox or fillers, right, but but we're not bashing 188 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.360 people for going and dyeing their hair bleach blond. That's 189 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.559 changing your appearance. Nutting your nails done, changing your appearance. 190 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.720 And there's there's less than less to do to sort 191 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:12.240 of I guess the the uptick in Bravo viewership, there's 192 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.240 a lot less stigma around it. There's a lot less 193 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.440 I mean, people just do it. The number one thing 194 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.600 that makes the biggest difference, though, for some reason is 195 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.279 like I said before, it's the botox between the eyes. 196 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.240 It's the forehead, and it's not around the mouth, around 197 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.720 the eyes, the places where we think or that is 198 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.360 sort of a trigger that affects the whole face. Why 199 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:38.000 is that the area that tends to work versus you. 200 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.120 You know, we don't pay it when when somebody looks older. 201 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.639 We rarely focus on the forehead, but for some reason, 202 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:46.720 that is the thing that changes the face the most. 203 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:52.879 Yeah, so typically we look full face right because it's 204 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.320 all working together. But I will say that's the most 205 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:59.360 commonplace people will start. That's the most commonplace that people 206 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:02.320 focus on. It these really deep eleven lines or they're 207 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.679 really deep lines on their forehead. And then some people 208 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.399 are like, I'm fine with my crows. I'm fine with 209 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:10.159 down here. You know who's fine with your crows site? 210 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:14.360 I don't know some people. I actually haven't done mine 211 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:16.960 in a while. I'm thirty one, though, so like they're 212 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.720 not static. I'll probably do them once a year, but 213 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:21.399 I don't need to have them gone. 214 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:22.799 Can you do yourself time? 215 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:26.080 I have before, but I'm going to have some A 216 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:27.039 friend Jack. 217 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:28.919 So you said you're thirty one, When did you first 218 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.840 start doing it? Yeah? 219 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.120 So fun So first time I ever got botox, I 220 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.440 want to say I was twenty six. I was in Quarterline, 221 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:38.960 Idaho on a mountain biking trip with my best friend 222 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:42.679 and it was her fortieth birthday and she was like, 223 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.320 for my fortieth birthday, We're going to the medspot and 224 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:49.120 I'll pay for your boatoks and we're gonna get botoks done. 225 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.159 I was like cool, Like oh, you were like cool, 226 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:52.799 You're not like I know I'm pre botok. 227 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:54.399 Oh yeah, but at twenty six, are you like, what 228 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:55.240 do I need botox? 229 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.639 For sure? No? I didn't think that at all. I said, 230 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.600 look at this forehead. It moves a lot I would 231 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:04.519 love and it's free. Yes, Like, let's do it. It's temporary. 232 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.559 If I hate it, it wears off in three months, 233 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.080 no one would even know I had it done. Like 234 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.360 after the three months, I'd be moving again. Who cares? 235 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.960 Right, it's not permitted it last three it lasts a 236 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:14.480 few months. 237 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.399 Yep. I went for it and I was addicted. I 238 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:17.559 was like, oh my god. 239 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.600 And the cost of the botox it's measured in. 240 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.120 Ccs units units. 241 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:26.840 And do you tell the person up front, like you're 242 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:28.559 gonna need a lot or how do you know how 243 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.919 much it's going to take? Yeah? 244 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:34.559 Totally. Every everybody is different, right, So with a neurotoxin, 245 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.559 especially Allergan who owns Botox, They've done a lot of 246 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:44.919 FDA research, So the FDA approved dosing for your glabella 247 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.480 forehead and your crows is sixty four units. Now they 248 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.799 just got another cosmetic FDA approval actually for your platisma bands, 249 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.200 so now they actually have FDA approval up to one 250 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:56.679 hundred units. 251 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:57.840 For those responds. 252 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:02.000 Your platisma is this giant muscle right here that attaches 253 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.240 down here and then right here on your face and 254 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.639 that pulls your face down. Mm hmm. And so when 255 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.799 you go like this, these bands, yeah, those are platisma bands. 256 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.720 Oh so yeah, you can get the platisma right here 257 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.360 and then your bands, and then it kind of relaxes, right, 258 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.960 because most of our muscles are pulling down on our face. 259 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.679 And that's why our face sinks down is because those 260 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:23.440 muscles are constantly pulling. 261 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.919 Gravity is not our friend. I used to have a 262 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.840 girlfriend for a long long time who she wouldn't do botox, 263 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:34.600 but she would just drown herself in mountain dew and 264 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.639 Twinkies and Big Max And I'm like, why do you 265 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.399 eat that crap? And she goes cause it's filled with preservatives, 266 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:44.120 and she goes, I want to be almost mummified from 267 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.960 the preservatives. And she looked fantastic. She might have been. 268 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:48.799 She might have been right. I'm not sure how good 269 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.799 it was for her overall health, but she's like, the 270 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.000 preservatives in the food will preserve my body. So I 271 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.720 don't know how that. I don't know how she looks now, 272 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.559 but I'm like, oh, it seems to work. Okay, I 273 00:12:58.639 --> 00:12:59.960 gotta take a quick break because I think we can 274 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.279 to pay for botox around here. I'm with Jacqueline Murray. 275 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:04.840 We're talking about all things that you guys are going 276 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:06.879 to do better to look better. We will be back 277 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:16.919 right after this, and we are back how often? How 278 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.320 let me ask this, So somebody's got a wedding coming 279 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:23.159 up in a week, botox will how long does it 280 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.120 take to kick in? 281 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:25.039 Two weeks? 282 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:29.399 Two weeks? Okay, two weeks and then you're good for 283 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:31.440 so three months. 284 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.039 Dosage equals duration, So ideally, if we're doing that FDA 285 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.679 approved dosing. Again, everybody is different, but when we dose 286 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.279 you appropriately, sometimes it'll take us a while to get 287 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.759 to know you specifically, because all of our anatomy is different. 288 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.679 Males typically need more units than females. Super Active people 289 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.840 typically need more. If you're in the sauna. 290 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.000 Long because you sweat it out. 291 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:59.080 You have a high metabolism. So when we have your dosage, great, yeah, 292 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.919 up to three months. Ideally you're not back at baseline 293 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.279 at three months, but you will have movement probably at 294 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.200 three months. Some people will hold on to it longer. 295 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.360 Some people will burn it and they're doing it every 296 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:13.559 three months, but they're still not back at their baseline movement. 297 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.679 So if you were to compare their before photos, they're 298 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.559 moving more in that first before that first treatment, first 299 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:21.320 they're other ones. 300 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:23.159 Does the body get used to it though? And then 301 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.200 you have to do more? Is it like any other drugs? 302 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:29.720 Some people are saying you can build a resistance. Probably 303 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.600 over time, you can kind of build resistance to most 304 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:39.759 medications we have. But I mean I do see more 305 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:45.159 often though that we people are being undertreated. So they're saying, oh, 306 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.519 it doesn't work, it wore off. It's six weeks for me. 307 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:49.200 And then I'm like, how much are you getting? And 308 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:52.080 like this just happened. I asked the gal how much 309 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.080 are you getting? And she said twenty five units for 310 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.279 here and here, and I'm like that's crazy, Like FDA 311 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.960 approved dose is four units for hearing here, So that's 312 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.080 why your talks is wearing off. It's because you're not 313 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:07.120 getting enough and you're doing hot plates every single day 314 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.279 and you're thirty, right, so like you were under dosed. 315 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:13.279 So your nurse injector did you a disservice, probably to 316 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.159 stay in your budget. However, if you can't afford it, well, 317 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.039 let's save up till you can't afford the dose. That 318 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.759 way you actually feel like you're getting what you're paying 319 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:24.519 for instead of trying to stay in your dose. It's 320 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.159 just gonna like within your budget, it's gonna wear off 321 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.159 so much faster. 322 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.840 And the older you get, like anything else, the skin 323 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.200 becomes less palable, whatever the word is. 324 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.120 So yeah, that's really that, and that's when it pays 325 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:40.000 to have an educated injector, because you know, you can't 326 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:42.200 treat a thirty year old the same way you're treating 327 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.480 someone in their fifties and sixties. I have a lot 328 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.279 of elasticity and collagen still in my skin that holds 329 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.879 me taut. As you lose that elastin, if we completely 330 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.799 freeze your muscles, you don't have anything to hold you 331 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.559 taught anymore because your skin sagging. So what we do 332 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.639 is a lot of time is back off a little bit, 333 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.519 change our placement and sometimes you'll be left with a 334 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.200 little bit of movement, but you'll still have that muscle 335 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.720 to hold you taught. So a good injector is not 336 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.679 going to inject someone with loose, looser skin more like 337 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.720 lost velacity the same way they treat a twenty year 338 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:16.159 old or a thirty year old. 339 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:17.840 Do people come in with a picture and they're like, 340 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.279 I want to have that Nicole Kidman frozen face? 341 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.320 No, not really. I've had one person like send me 342 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:25.559 a photo like of them like fifteen years ago, and 343 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.120 they're like, I want to look like this with botox. 344 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.120 And I'm like, I'm not a magician. 345 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:30.480 I can't do that with boat talks. 346 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.639 I can't do that with botox. Well now, so somebody 347 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.919 I brought up the dating thing. So somebody's you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, 348 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.200 they meet somebody either online or whatever, and that person 349 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.960 wants to go out with them Saturday. There's nothing. What 350 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.360 can they do in two three day I mean a 351 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:45.039 facial What. 352 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.840 Can they do in two facials? 353 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.080 Does a facial leave you red for several days or no? 354 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.679 There's different ones. Hydro facials. I just got two laser 355 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.679 treatments before I came here, like literally. 356 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.039 Right, Well, we appreciate you doing that. 357 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.440 Yeah. So I got an IPLA treatment in a Hollywood 358 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:05.640 facial treatment and that's to help stimulate collagen treat sun damage. 359 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.039 So I really don't have that much, but it's because 360 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.440 I wear sunscreen. But I have a couple spots here 361 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.680 that we're trying to lift. And then I've had cystic 362 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.759 acne for a long time, so I'm really trying to 363 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.680 like finish clearing this up. I have some redness, some 364 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.319 scarring that we're after, but that doesn't really have crazy downtime. 365 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.240 Like I could go on a date, Well, I am 366 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.640 going to dinner tonight and my skin looks. 367 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:28.759 Fine, and you got something done today. Yeah. Yeah. 368 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.319 Hydro facials, you can get those done within two to 369 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.000 three days of like your wedding or a really important event. 370 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.960 Gives you a nice shine to your skin. As far 371 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.960 as injectables go, I actually had a goal book and 372 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.160 appointment and in her note she booked and said I'm 373 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.799 getting married two weeks from this date and I've never 374 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.720 had botox before. And I was like called her and 375 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.160 I was like, you need to come in before. Sorry 376 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.400 this bug, I said, you need to come in before that. 377 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:57.000 Two weeks. 378 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:58.240 You need to practice, you need to see how the 379 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:58.960 body takes it. 380 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:02.799 Right, Well, let me assess you first. Let me see 381 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:05.759 how anxious of a human you are. Yeah, let me 382 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.039 see if you even need it. Well, turned out she 383 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:10.799 didn't need it. She actually had no static lines. What 384 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.920 she wanted was a little bit of volume replacement in 385 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.279 her cheeks because she had lost some fat in her cheeks. 386 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.039 So yeah, I was like, actually, you don't want neuro 387 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.920 talks and you want filler. But one thing that can 388 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.319 be risky is let's say your talks kicks in slightly 389 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.599 uneven or maybe you need touch ups at that two 390 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.559 weeks because you've never had it before. I don't know 391 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:35.680 you two weeks. It's your wedding day, right, so if 392 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.359 you have an eyebrow that slightly moves more, or maybe 393 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.839 you just hate it, right, right, it's your wedding day. Yeah, 394 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.119 you've already hired everyone. Like it can be risky, So 395 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.559 especially around your wedding, you should start working with your aesthetic, 396 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.680 your estheticians, your nurses. I would say a year before. 397 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:56.960 Your wedding to town what does collagen do? Because I 398 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.240 know you could take it as a pill like you 399 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.880 take like vegetarians have trouble getting into collagen because it 400 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:06.680 comes from bovine, Right, Yeah, Can I just rub collagen 401 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:07.839