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just to clarify, this is not the last episode of

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season one.

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Speaker 2: No, this is kind of a special edition for tonight,

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and we will be back with a matchup between Prince

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Sign of the Times and Joshua Tree by YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Two masterpieces of nineteen eighty seven. We're gonna dive in,

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break them down, analyze it, give our opinions, and see

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where we come down on those two big time albums.

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Speaker 2: So for today's episode, Jason, when you were growing up,

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did you ever listen to Paul Harvey on the radio?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think he may possibly be my favorite voice announcer

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on the radio ever. He would do the news.

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Speaker 3: And did you ever listen to the rest of the story,

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Paul Harvey is from my hometown of Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I've got a little homage for today's episode. It's going

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to be a shorter episode.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it all right, here we go. It was

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nineteen fifty one. Shelby stood anxiously at the Warner Brothers

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recording studio, not sure about what was going to happen next.

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He had only recently moved to California in hopes of

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making it big, and so far he hadn't had a

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whole lot of success.

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Speaker 2: He was far from home on his second marriage and

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had a young boy he had grown to a door

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depending on him, But little did he know the profound

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impact that this upcoming recording session would have. A one

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hundred years ago, the population of Eric, Oklahoma was nine

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hundred and seventy one, which is about thirty eight more

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than its population is today, and in April of nineteen

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twenty one, that population increased by one when Bill and

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Aura welcomed their third son in the world. Shelby would

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go on to learn horse riding and fiddle playing from

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Bill and so from a young age he would ride

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in rodeos, and at fifteen he formed a band called

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the plain View Melody Boys, who would periodically play on

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Station KASA in Elk City, Oklahoma. When Shelby was only nineteen,

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he married his first wife, Melva Miller, herself only seventeen

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at the time. Shelby became close with Melva's young cousin Roger,

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taught him how to play the guitar and bought him

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his first fiddle. Roger Miller would grow up to become

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a successful country musician himself. You probably know his song

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King of the Road, which was a number one Hot

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Country single and reached number four on the Hot one hundred.

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But This Seed that Shall Be Planted would not be

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the biggest mark he would make on the world of entertainment.

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Though he tried to enlist for World War Two, his

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rodeo injuries kept him out of the military, so instead

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he worked as a welder for oil drillers. Then in

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nineteen forty six, at the encouragement of Ernest tub he

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decided to leave the oil field, leave Oklahoma and pursue

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his love of music. He recorded his first single, moved

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to Fort Worth, Texas, and for three years he toured

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the South, but was ultimately unable to hit it big.

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So in nineteen fifty he brought his second wife, Edna

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and her young son Gary to Hollywood in hopes of

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establishing himself as an actor or a singer. But after

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a year he had only had a handful of parts,

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mostly uncredited, and that included the movie he was about

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to record for Uncredited For the part he played in

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the movie and uncredited for his part in the audio

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track that he was about to record. Yes, uncredited for

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the part that would become one of the most iconic

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recordings in history. Now, as it turned out, Shelby would

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ultimately be a success as a singer and as an actor.

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Just a year later, in nineteen fifty two, he would

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land his first big role in the movie High Noon

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as Ben Miller, one of the gang who would face

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off against Gary Cooper. A year after that, two songs

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that he had written would become hits for Teresa Brewer

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and Hank snow. Then, in nineteen fifty eight, he had

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two career making events. First, he was cast as Peter

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Nolan in the series Rawhide, a role he would play

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for the next eight years. Second was that he had

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recorded a song that would be his biggest chart topper,

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going gold in just three weeks and hitting number one

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on the Hot one hundred.

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Speaker 3: The song it.

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Speaker 2: Was a one eyed, one horn flying Purple People Leader Horn.

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Speaker 3: It has sold well over one hundred million copies to date.

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But I am saying today that his uncredited contribution to

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one of his earliest movies surpasses even this in its impact.

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On the entertainment world. His acting career didn't stop with

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raw Hide either. He was in more than sixty movies

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and television roles, including The War Wagon with John Wayne,

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The Outlaw, Josie Wales with Clint Eastwood, Silverado with Kevin Kleine,

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Kevinner and Danny Glover, and Hoosiers, where he was literally

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sitting next to Gene Hackman on the bench helping coach

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the team. He was also one of the original cast

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members of Hehaw, which he wrote the theme for. He

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also had quite a bit of success as a recording

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artist as well. He had several more gold records. He

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won a CMA in nineteen sixty eight Songwriter of the

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Year in nineteen ninety two. He also won the Western

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Heritage Award for nine years in a row for his

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television work. But I maintain it was his nineteen fifty

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one recording that will be his most lasting legacy, and

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most people don't even know he was the man responsible.

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So what was Shelby Woolley who went by sheb about

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to record on that faithful day? Well, it was just

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one of a handful of actors they had called back

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that day to do some recording. They needed to finish

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up the movie Distant Drums. Sheb did six different takes

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and the last three ended up in the movie. Then

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all six takes went into the Warner Brothers vault, only

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to be used again in nineteen fifty two and in

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nineteen fifty three, three times in nineteen fifty four, including

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the Judy Garland version of A Star Is Born, twice

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in fifty five, and again and again over and over

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for the next twenty years. But nobody noticed. Nobody except

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a young film production grad student at USC named Ben.

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In his studies, Ben had noticed Sheb's work and was impressed,

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so impressed that he and his buddy Richard would record

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it from A Star Is Born just to put it

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in their nineteen seventy four student film, The Scarlet Blade.

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Ben would graduate the next year, and then two years

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after that he would get his first credited job as

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a sound designer. This job allowed him to do research

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in several sound libraries, including the one at Warner Brothers,

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where he was able to find Seb's original recordings, and

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it was this discovery that led to its proliferation in

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the nineteen eighties, nineties and on into the twenty first century.

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His friend Richard used it in his movies as well,

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including Poltergeist, Batman Returns, Planet of the Apes, and Madagascar.

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Other sound editors became aware of Seb's recordings and used

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it in their films as well. Disney films, Spielberg films,

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Joe Dante has used it in at least five of

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his films. Peter Jackson was so impressed that he deliberately

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cranked the volume when Sheb's voice was used in Lord

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of the Rings, and when Quentin Tarantino learned the significance

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of this recording while it was being put into Reservoir Dogs,

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he called a break and had his sound crew come

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and listen to its first appearance way back in Distant Drums.

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In fact, since ben discovered Seb's recordings back in nineteen

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seventy seven while finding sounds for a new movie called

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Star Wars, Sheb's voice has been used in over one

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hundred and thirty films and television episodes, and Ben Bert

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found it in a canister marked quote man getting bit

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by an alligator and he screams end quote because it

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wasn't Sheb's singing voice, but his screaming voice that he

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recorded on that faithful day back in nineteen fifty one,

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and though Sheb played Private Jessup in Distant Drums, it

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was a memorable moment in a film two years later

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called The Charge at Feather River, where Ben Burt first

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heard Sheb's scream as another young private is shot in

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the leg a young private named Willhelm, which is why,

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if you haven't guessed it already, he named it the

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Wilhelm Scream, and that is the story as best I

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can tell.

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Speaker 1: Nice. That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I know it from Star Wars for sure, Return of

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the Jedi.

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Speaker 3: For sure, Indiana Jones, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Raiders, a little lost star without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: It's iconic.

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Speaker 1: That's good man, you did some research on that.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just crazy when you find out that

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the guy responsible for the one eyed, one horn, flying

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Purple People Leader and the themed Hehaw is the guy

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who did the Wilhelm screen.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. It's incredible. I'm gonna have to go back

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and watch Whosis just to figure this guy out. So

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all right, everybody, thank you for joining us on this

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mini episode coming soon.

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Speaker 3: De This is going to be amazing.

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Speaker 1: We are going to break down and analyze Princess Sign

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of the Times album versus You Two's Joshua Tree. And

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then after that, around Christmas time, we're going to discuss

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and debate Leave the Weapon versus Diehard.

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Speaker 3: Christmas movies, absolutely Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Movies, just in time for the holidays, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, everybody, so be sure and join us for that.

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We can't wait look forward to seeing you of them.

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Speaker 1: Ah. We ought to do our uh impressions, oh man,