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Speaker 6: We we spend trillions and trillions of dollars on NATO,
and when I asked them to get involved in a
much smaller situation.
Speaker 5: With these Harmos and Oren.
Speaker 7: They weren't there for it.
Speaker 2: Remember what I said. They weren't there, none of them.
Speaker 6: They weren't there.
Speaker 3: So we were there in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I mean, you shouldn't have been.
Speaker 6: They would have never happened if I were president. But nevertheless,
when they've had problems over the years, we were there,
when we asked them to get involved on a very
minor skirmish by comparison to what it could be, they
weren't there. So I don't think they'd be there for
large purvis and therefore I think they've got themselves the problem.
Speaker 8: The President of the United States taking questions. The strait
of horror moves is open, but it's not. But it is,
but it's not. I'm a little confused actually, from reading
all the news reports about it. Welcome my friends to
the Friday edition of both the Lois Rush Hour. I
can't believe it's Friday or ready. It happens so quickly,
and here we are. What am I confused about? I'm
confused about the way that it is being reported. And
there's something about this that I'll understand. We want to give
you a headline. The Ranian said, it's the straight of
horror moves is totally open. Another headline I see. The
US military blockade on ships entering or leaving Oran will
continue until Trump ends it, and Admiral Brad Cooper, head
of the US Central Commands, Some Coombs said the blockade
against ships exiting or entering Iranian ports will remain would
remain until President Trump suspended it, as the President announced
earlier today, US forces in the Middle East continue to
fully enforce the maritime blockade against ships and exiting or
entering the port. And then when you look closer at
the open Strait of Hormuz, it's open, But the Iranians
are saying, yeah, but you have to coordinate everything with us,
and so they're still checking. So is it open or
is it not open? Is it really open or is
it fake opened so that oil prices can come down?
US and Ouran is said to be near a framework
for future negotiations. President Trump's announcement that Iran had agreed
to completely open the straight up Hoomu's boasted hopes that
the two governments were keeping alive Let's these fire agreement
reached last week and nearing a framework for further negotiations
reaching a lasting peace deal. In comments to the Iranian
state media, Iran's foreign ministry spokesman said Tehran had rejected
the option of transforming its enriched uranium stockpiles abroad. The
statement came after Trump told CBS News in a phone
interview that Iran would cooperate with America to remove your
enriched uranium from Iran. Three senior Iranian officials familiar with
the negotiations say Iran and the United States are finalizing
a three page memo of understanding that will define a
sixty day period foreign negotiations to continue to reach a deal. Also,
President Trump says he's gonna go to Pakistan, as Obama
calls it Pakistan in case there is a deal. And
this is what I was mentioning before. After Ron's foreign
minister announced the Strait of Hormuz was completely open on there,
announcing it on the coordinated route Iran had previously laid out.
Military and government officials reiterated that the waterway remained under
Iranian supervision, saying it was in keeping with the implementation
of the cease fire. So after this is also reporting.
After Ron's foreign minister announced on social media the Straight
of Hormuz was completely open for all commercial commercial ships,
backlash had begun to string in from several news outlets
affiliated with Iran's hardline security forces. The Tansanum news agency
call the post bad incomplete, said at glossed over how
transit through the waterway will still continue to require coordination
with Iran's armed forces. Don't know where the truth is
in any of this, but I do know this. The
New York Times is kind of promoting the idea that
there's another nuclear site called the Pixax Mountain. They have
a long article about it today that apparently is invincible
to bunker buster bombs because it's so deep in the mountain,
and they're suggesting that in any victory this site referred
to locally in Iran the Kui Kolang Gosla site, will
have to be dealt with because it is so deep
underground it may require armed servicemen on the ground to
go in and lay explosives into it. So good news
stops are reacting to the opening of the straight up
hor the moves completely opened, although it may not be
completely opened, although it is maybe, but although we're still
blockading it, it's open and it's trying to figure it
all out. Yes, and other news lighties and gentlemen, there's
still so much going on. There's a story today about
how the Senate Republicans are growing frustrated with the House
of Representative and Chuck Johnson. They're pissed off in the
Senate because this House won't take up their little bill
that they send it in the You know, the DHS
is still shut down. Did you know that, did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're still in the government shutdown, and supposedly the
Republican senators are getting their noses bent out of shape
over the House demands. And my response to that is, seriously,
I can't give the response that I really feel for because,
to be frank with you, it is not for these
public airwaves what the Senate can do and with what
parts of their bodies they can do it with. It
is anatomically impossible to do what I suggest that the
Senate should do. But because the Senate is where all
good legislation goes to diet's where courageous legislation goes to die.
And then you have a story today about Sue and
Tom Tillis who are signaling a shift on Trump war powers.
If the Iran war goes to sixty days, then they
may not. It's like sixty days really two months for
something this momentous, And you guys are gonna punk out.
I don't know how Tom Tillis ever was elected in
North Carolina, but thankfully he's returning out of it. He's
retiring rather not running for another term. As for Sue Colins,
Sue Collins is Sue Collins. You know, angry with her sometimes,
what does it matter? She's usually better than the alternatives
that you have in Maine.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're Sue Collins. Uh, there's a shifting gears once more.
And by the way, the Republicans in the House are
working on a reconciliation bill to just move everything through reconciliation.
There's a fight about that because apparently the Senate wants
what they call a skinny reconciliation just fund customs and
border patrol and ice, and the Republicans of the Houses saying,
screw that, we're tired of dealing with these Democrats. We're
going to fund all dhs through reconciliation, which to me
makes sense. But of course the Senate, where Republicans went
went are still b i itching and moaning about it
and blaming the House. And it is the House of Representatives.
It sets appropriations in America constitutionally, not the United States Senate,
so again.
Speaker 2: I will fire the House.
Speaker 8: I would just tell the Senate to do something that
is anatomically impossible to do, but to do it anyway
to themselves. There's an editorial today. I was talking about
this Top of the Hour, James flipping a little bit early.
Spirit Airlines looks like they may be Uh have you
ever flown Spirit Airlines? Carlos, have you ever been on Spirit?
I've heard from people that travel on Spirit. Some of
them have some nice things to say about the fairs
they have. I guess their expectations are set, and then
other people have Philip, have you ever traveled on Spirit Airlines?
Speaker 2: Uh? Have you ever been on that? The yellow? The Yellow?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I know, yeah, yea, I've been on I've been on
Spirit before. Yeah, I've been on I've been on Spirit.
Speaker 8: I don't drive here, Philip. We're waiting. Yeah, we're trying
to figure out, folks, what's going on. We can't hear Philip.
Philip is saying some words, but somehow another we can't.
I get a hold of them, and I'm asking everybody
if they.
Speaker 9: Have Yeah, yeah, I've been on Spirit. Sorry, we're a
finger out. How to turn on a mic it's tough.
There's an on button off button. I kept hitting the
off button. I realized that's the problem. Oh yeah, I
hit the on one and now you can hear me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know it's complicated.
Speaker 9: It's tough, man, it's tough. This technology is getting really advanced.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So you've been on Spirit, can you share if you
feel comfortable, you know, share your experienced flying Spirit.
Speaker 9: Spirit is kind of get to It's a little bit uh,
it's a little bit.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: It's a little bit of get to. It's it's it's
you know, you gotta take it. For one hundred dollars,
you're gonna get some uh uh, you're gonna get some
people on there, you know, some unceremonious people. I actually
got into it with a with a with a person
on Spirit because the flight got delayed multiple times. And
it's Spirit. You kind of expect us the price you pay.
Speaker 2: And there she was.
Speaker 9: The woman's going like really going at it with the
guy at the desk because we were like, oh, you know,
wait until the board the plane he got delayed. I
was like, a lady, what are you like, what is
he gonna do? The guy's not even a litter or anything.
It's like you're yelling at him. You expect him to
hop on the plane and just fly. It doesn't work
like that, you stupid idiot. I mean, I didn't say that,
but I got into it with her a little bit
about it.
Speaker 8: And did she give you a pushback? And how shall
I say? Did she give you push back in a
colorful way? Oh?
Speaker 9: No, she understood me very respectfully and didn't respect Yeah. No,
of course it was a bad of course it went
back and forth. I had to entertain myself one way
while I was delayed on the flight. So I was like, yeah,
I got bored staring on my phone. I could get
yelled at for a little.
Speaker 10: Bit, okay, worth one hundred dollars one hundred and fifty
dollars flight though, absolutely, you know that's the priceure I
got to fly across the country and I got a
little bit of entertainment.
Speaker 8: Okay that Spirit, Well, the days of that may be over. Sadly,
Spirit Airlines apparently having a big problem here. Uh and
Washington Post has a story about and they say the
US government kills Spirit Airlines.
Speaker 3: It's not the.
Speaker 8: Faults everybody's saying. Now, with oil prices up, jet fuel up.
This is a consequence. Spirit can't do it. But what
the Washington Posts say today is that the rising price
of jet fuel might be the final nail in the
coffin for Spirit Airlines. But its final resting place was
built by the US government three years ago when the
government sued to block the budget carrier from being acquired
by Jet Blue in naming protecting the name of protecting competition,
the Biden administration ensured there would be less of it,
and Spirit is already in negotiations with the creditors about
its liquidation of liquidation plan. Because things are unraveling quickly
over there. Jet Blue wanted to buy it. Joe Biden
Kamala Harris said no, so I would just change the headline.
It is not the US government that killed Spirit Airlines,
ladies and gentlemen. It's Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that
destroyed or that just what will soon may be destroyed,
the one and only Spirit Airline. I love Phillips review
of Spirit Airline, but four hundred dollars flag what do
you expect?
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Speaker 8: I was talking with Carlos about airlines. We were talking
during the break about airlines. It's Philip's you know, sparked
us with his comments about spirit and I'm saying, you know,
it would be really great if there were airline where
they just had first class seats and the whole plane
and was the votable said there is one, there's business
class stuff and he gave you sent me the link
of this airline. It seems like a French airline, you know,
one of those friends. I don't I don't want to
pronounce it because I don't pronounce French very well. So
whatever I pronounce, it's going to be wrong. Locke C O,
M P A N G N I E.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 8: Component would be something like that, and by the time
the French gets through with it, whatever it is, and
the whole thing has you know those business seats that
lay where you lay down the whole the whole apparent
apparently the whole plane is that one comfort they say
comfort Zen and you're one hundred percent connected and apparently
they do a NonStop route from here to European destination.
I'm not going to give it because if they want it,
they should buy advertising time on this show, and we
should go try to get them to buy advertising time
on this show. This this looks like the bomb, but
it would be nice if there was an an airline
that did this in the United States, especially between the
East Coast and the Left coast. Folks who will be back.
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my friends. I kidnap tomorrow, of course, God willing, we're
here for the Saturday Morning extravec Ganza. We're gonna have
a lot to cover, but I want to talk a
few things. Yesterday I mentioned some of the stories about immigration,
and you had the six Republicans that joined Democrats to
extend the temporary what was supposed to be temporary protections
and you had hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Haiti
come in, many of them unvetted and included in the
people that voted to extend those protections. Many for many unvetted,
properly vetted illegal immigrants from New York's Nicole mall Focus
and Mike Lawler. They joined with four other Democrats, for
other Republicans to side with Democrats to push it through.
Brandon Gill from Texas not happy about any of it.
This brief segment snippet from his House floor speech cut eight.
Please Brandon Gill from Texas on this whole matter of
the Haitian that have protected status.
Speaker 7: So let's ask ourselves does mass migration from Haiti benefit
the American people? The answer is obviously no. Sixty five
percent of non immigrant Haitian headed households are on welfare.
Does that make America stronger or more prosperous or more
wealthy in any way? Of course it doesn't. And yet
we're being asked to give them amnesty and make these
absolutely horrendous years of open borders effectively permanent.
Speaker 8: Now in immigration matters, a Minnesota, as you know, prosecutor
has raised felony charges for Gregory Morgan Jr. Allegedly pointed
as gun at two individuals doing rush hour traffic. This
is in Hennepin County where this attorney, the DA there,
Mary Morioty is obviously has an act to grind against ICE,
or at least it appears to me that she has
an an ANACTI grind based on the things that she
has and has not decided to prosecute. She's saying, Mary Moriotty,
that this ICE agent sped up, pulled alongside a vehicle
Master speed, opened his window, pointed his duty weapon directly
at both victims. Now, look, I'm not saying that she's
wrong in this. If this is what happened and there's
nothing mitigating it, that's what happened, and he misabused his power.
He should be charged. I wonder because the agents give
a different story. And this is Minneapolis, and in Minneapolis
you don't seem to get the full story. Sometimes. There
was testimony today and I found this very interesting. While
the Republicans are still slow walking to save Actor, not
doing everything they can to get the Save Act dor
in the House, there was the Government Administration Committee had
a hearing today in Washington, d C. And among them,
the Minnesota Secretary of State had to testify. A guy
by the name of Steve Slimon. Representative Brian Steele of
Wisconsin nailed it down in less than one minute of
question and answers with Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon,
that's cut nine and this is how that exchange it
took place.
Speaker 13: Does Minnesota issue driver's licenses to illegal.
Speaker 11: Aliens, mister Chair, to non citizens broadly those who are documented.
Speaker 13: In on doctor So non citizens broughather than including illegal aliens.
And does it distinguished on the driver's license whether or
not an individual as a citizen.
Speaker 11: Or not, mister Chair, No, it does not.
Speaker 2: No, it does not. Some states do. Minnesota does not.
Speaker 13: So if an individual comes to registered day of in Minnesota,
you allow same day registration.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 13: And if an individual comes in and registers it was
there's no photo ID requirement on same.
Speaker 2: Day registration in Minnesota. Accurate?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 13: And so an individual wouldn't have to show their idea,
and if they did show their idea, wouldn't say whether
or not they're a United States citizen.
Speaker 3: Mister Chair.
Speaker 11: I'm hesitating only because there's certain circumstances that might be
different from that, But I take the meaning of your question. Yes,
it's not required.
Speaker 2: So let's go over this one more time.
Speaker 8: In less than a minute, he just nailed it down,
and why we need to save Act number one. Minnesota
does not require photo ID to vote. They don't require
any proof of citizenship to vote. They don't require anything.
You just show up if you're registered, and you can
register the same day as the election, and you can
use your driver's license to register to vote in Minnesota.
So in Minnesota you can go if you're in an
a legal immigrant and just get a driver's license, period
And there's nothing on that driver's license that says one
way or another you're an a legal immigrant, you're here illegally,
you're not a citizen or not. You just get a license. Now,
you walk into a voting booth and you say, here,
I have ID. No one checks you, no photo ID,
there's no indication that you're not a citizen, no questions
that here, go vote. Now, you mean to tell me
the same people, and I say, in broad strokes, the
same element of people that would defraud the United States
out of billions and billions of dollars and send it overseas.
You can expect them to play to follow the rules
when it comes to elections. Can you the same people
that steal and pell for billions of dollars, but all
of a sudden they're going to respect our elections when
they don't respect anything else about the United States of America?
Is that so really okay? If you want it, if
that's what you want us to believe. More discussions of
this from New Jersey to New York. Representative from New
Jersey Jeff Van Drew, we was speaking with a gold star,
had two things.
Speaker 2: We have two quotes from him.
Speaker 8: One is on the impact of Kathy Hochel sanctuary policies.
But first let's listen to him talk about some of
the other impacts. Cut six. This is Representative Jeff Van
Drew from New Jersey.
Speaker 14: Folks have said on the other side sometimes that a
lot of things in defense of sanctuary city policies. And
I say tell that to Laura Wilkerson, whose eighteen year
old son Joshua was murdered, was murdered by an illegal
alien from blizz Please. He was beaten with a wooden rod,
His hands and feet were bound, his body was set
on fire and I'm sorry I even say I have
to say this, and he was left in a field.
Joshua gave his killer a ride home from school that day.
Speaker 3: That was Joshua's crime. That's the kind of kid that
he was.
Speaker 14: Tell it's a Patricia Fox whose daughter Carissa was riding
on the back of a motors Michael when an illegal
alien with no license and no insurance caught across three
lanes of traffic and hit her. And then he fled
the scene.
Speaker 3: And left her for dead.
Speaker 14: Tell let to Jen Hiling, whose son Brady, nineteen years old,
a football and track athlete who would turn down college
scholarships just to stay close to his family, and his
girlfriend was killed, was murdered when a drunk illegal alien
drove him the wrong way on an interstate at a
blood alcohol level just about three times I legal limit.
So go ahead, tell them the sanctuary policities make communities safer.
Look him in the eye and say.
Speaker 8: That, Now, this is what democrats say all the time, Now,
sanctuary policies. He went closer and talked to exactly what
New York's Governor Kathy Hochel is doing in the blue
state of New York Carlos, I want you to We're
gonna stop and start this because this runs by so
quick the numbers kind of get blurred with each other,
so we'll stop.
Speaker 2: At some point.
Speaker 8: I'll just ask you to stop it, and then we'll
start it again, because I want everybody to hear everything
that Representative Jeff Van Drew is saying as he's reporting
to us on the impact of Kathy Hochel, New York
Governor's sanctuary policies and how they are affecting New York.
Cut seven okay, here we go New.
Speaker 14: York freely to honor ice detainers resulted in the release
of six thousand, nine hundred and forty seven criminal illegal
aliens criminal okay stop.
Speaker 8: Kathy Hockel's policies of not honoring ice detainers meant that
at criminals they released new York. Across New York State,
six nine hundred some odd criminals were released onto the
street because Kathy Hockel refuses to honor the federal government's
ice detainers so that they can come in and get
criminals after they leave jail. Kathy Hockel and the Democrats
wanted to make sure that they put almost seven thousand
criminals back on the streets of New York so she
can stick her bony little middle finger up to Donald
Trump and to Republicans and say, if you we care
more about illegal immigrants than we do you, let's start
it again. Now you heard that number. Now listen as
he goes and explains who some of these people are.
Speaker 14: Let's New York freely to honor Ice detainers resulted in
the release of six thousand, nine hundred and forty seven
criminal illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens almost seven thousand, with
crimes ranging from twenty nine homicides, twenty five hundred assaults,
two hundred burglaries, three hundred robberies.
Speaker 8: For right, stop stop and let's just put it back,
twenty nine murderers, twenty five hundred people assaults, and then
you had others. Let's start it, let's pick it up,
because these numbers are flying by fast.
Speaker 14: New York Freelly to honor Ice detainers resulted in the
release of six thousand, nine hundred and forty seven criminal
illegal aliens criminal illegal aliens almost seven thousand, with crimes
ranging from twenty nine homicides, twenty five hundred assaults, two
hundred burglaries, three hundred robberies, four hundred dangerous drug offenses,
three hundred weapons offenses, and two hundred sexual predatory offenses.
Speaker 2: Okay, stop.
Speaker 8: Two hundred sexual predators released back on the streets by
Kathy Hochel. Two hundred sexual predators and in some cases
you know they go after children, in some cases that
you know they go after more than one person. Kathy
Hochel released two hundred sexual predators back on the street
because she wants to stick that bony, little ming middle
finger of hers up to Donald Trump and say, see,
we're protecting illegal immigrants. See we hate ice just like
my Democrat party, we hate enforcing immigration law. So we
will let the sexual predators walk on your streets, two
hundred of them. Over if you have been the victim
of robbery or burglary, when you look at those numbers together,
five hundred of them, twenty nine murderers or accuse murderers.
Speaker 2: Let go.
Speaker 3: Overall.
Speaker 8: Kathy Hoko let almost seven thousand criminals out so that
she could stick it to Donald Trump. And you're welcome.
You're very welcome, ladies and gentlemen. That's who you have
as governor. And then in California. One last thing before
we get to a break. Have an article today that
I'm gonna have to spend more time with tomorrow from
the La Times. California was warned of shocking hospice fraud.
In action allowed scams to continue. You know what they're doing.
And this hospital thing exploded because Nick Shirley has been
going around to these locations saying, here, this is where
he's supposed to have a hospice. And you see it's
some house here, it's a building where you've got one
hundred and fifty hostage or whatever it is twenty five
hospice is located, and you see there's nobody there. He's
been walking around the streets of LA exposing the sham.
And so what are they doing to Nick Shirley? Cut thirteen.
This is California Assemblyman Carl de Mail and this is
what the Democrats are doing in California right now.
Speaker 15: Outgeous I just made a motion in the Assembly to
block the Mia Banta bill ittable motion to re refer
AB twenty six twenty four the Stop the Nick Shirley
Act back to the Privacy Committee.
Speaker 2: Assembly. Republicans are here to debate.
Speaker 1: Fraud mister Demile, mister demiele.
Speaker 15: AB twenty six twenty four, or the Stop Nick Shirley Act.
The reason why we are asking it to be re
referred to the Privacy Committee is that the author of
this bill misrepresented contents of the bill lied to committee
members that would basically ban Nick Shirley from posting videos
exposing fraud in Californiation sixty two one eight point one
nine prohibits an individual from posting a video online. If
the fraud organization says you can't do that, the fraud
organization can then quote seek injunctionive and declaratory relief in
a court of competent jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: Okay, well did you get the drift of this?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: She's so beautiful, the goodness, lordy, lordy, lordy, Miss Claudie.
I'm sorry, fo excuse me? I was distracted? Am in California?
Who was I saying? I was blindslided?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 8: They want to stop Nick Shirley from putting up videos
of the fraud that he finds the Democrats.
Speaker 2: This is a clear violation.
Speaker 8: So if the frauding organization says, no, we don't want
the video up, then they want to be able to
throw Nick Shirley and other journalists in jail and charge
him and find him like ten grand and throw them
in jail for posting videos about the fraud that he's finding.
And this is what the Democrats are doing. This is
who they are. This is unbelievable. Santana in nineteen seventy
begins sessions for their breakthrough album what would be their
breakthrough album, Abraxis in San Francisco. It was released in
September went to number one the a Bracxis album by Santana.
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Speaker 8: I'm glad we spent some time on that Kathy Hokeel
cut from and thank you New Jersey Reporative Representative Jeff
Van Drew for laying it out exactly what Kathy Hochel
is doing to the people of New York by sticking
her middle finger up to Donald Trump, to Republicans and
demanding their illegal criminals be released and flooded back on
the streets of her state and also nearby states. They're mobile,
you know, it's it's it's insanity. Happy birthday to Michael Simbelo.
He is just He's a great guitarist, great singer, great musician,
great songwriter. This was one of his singles, of course,
big for him Songwri and he U toured with Stevie
for a long time. In fact, it's they have some
great videos of that band, Nathan Steve, all those guys. Anyway,
May God bless and protect each and every single one
of your families, your loved ones, especially from the criminals.
About love and gratitude, my friends, So you're being here
with me, allowing me to be with you, God willing.
We are back in the morning early for the Saturday
Morning Extravaganza, your Saturday Morning Vibe with Princess Die and
the Gang. Until then, I bid you, I do.
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