WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:28.559 The weird Things happened in the Weird Weird. Hello, everybody, 2 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:32.159 Welcome to Bledso said, so, I'm actually quite excited to 3 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.759 discuss tonight's topic. This is a text I'll just go 4 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:40.240 ahead and say it's called Zostriano's and I have had 5 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.119 this one on the back burner for a few months 6 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.479 now to kind of get around to talking about this. 7 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:49.119 And I feel like, and we discussed this what was it, 8 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:52.399 I guess last episode because Revelation was a two part 9 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.000 But the the night that we began to record the 10 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:58.799 two part Revelation series, I was going to do this 11 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.920 one and I decided, Nah, Revelation kind of time sensitive. 12 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:04.439 My son is coming. We're now two weeks away from 13 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.239 the do dates. I was like, let me slide this back. 14 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.719 But anyway, I've been meaning to talk about this for 15 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:12.000 a while and it's very fascinating and I'm slowly working 16 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.719 my way through the Nagamadi Codex and I'm just kind 17 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.319 of picking up all these different texts along the way 18 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:23.120 and finding how they fit into my life experiences and 19 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.799 what I'm learning in real time. 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And of course, 75 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.879 as always, I've already kind of mentioned it the Patreon. 76 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:41.879 That's the best way that you can support the show 77 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.759 and help us to continue to do this. And literally 78 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.000 at any level of support, even as much as just 79 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.279 clicking like on YouTube, we appreciate every bit of it 80 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:56.279 and we don't take it for granted. Contact modalities, and Alex, 81 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.319 I want you to kind of, you know, talk about 82 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.519 this one today because you know, as I've been very 83 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:05.759 open about, I'm not gonna be there and that does 84 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:09.079 Sadden me here. I am two weeks away from the 85 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.360 birth of my son, which I'm very excited for, and 86 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:16.399 I'm very very excited for April fifth, which to my estimation, 87 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.120 will be days after his birth, where my son and 88 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:24.639 I with our little Tony Tony chopper plushy toy that 89 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.439 I have already bought from him, We are gonna sit 90 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:29.040 there and we are going to watch One Piece return 91 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.720 to TV together. So while I'm at home enjoying this 92 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.879 new life with my little mini me who has my 93 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.120 wife's face, somewhere in those early days, Alex and my 94 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.720 family are going to be going to this amazing conference 95 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.920 known as Contact Modalities. Yeah. Absolutely. 96 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.519 Contact Modality is happening in Delavan, Wisconsin, on May first 97 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.279 through the third. I have not participated in this before. 98 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.720 I did not go last year. I have not really 99 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.639 been to anything kind of similar or any conference, and 100 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.480 I am super stoked. The theme this year is Harmonic Ascension. 101 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.800 You can purchase your tickets at contactmdalitiesxpo dot com. You 102 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.519 can come see me, you can come see Chris Bloodso, 103 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.120 you can come see Chris Bloodsoe Junior, you can come 104 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:15.759 see Emily. 105 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:16.879 We'll all be hanging. 106 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.399 Out there and I'll probably just be off the wall, stoked, 107 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.680 having a great time, super looking forward to it, going 108 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:26.800 in with the open mind. I have no idea what 109 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:31.040 to expect. There's a ton of helpful info on the website, 110 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.319 but I'm just kind of going in, going in with 111 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:37.079 an open heart and an open mind, and I think 112 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.560 it's gonna be a fantastic conference. 113 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.519 It's great, and it's weird that my first conference, Alex 114 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:45.680 couldn't be there, in then Alexis first conference I couldn't 115 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.920 be there. Maybe the energy is too powerful, we can't 116 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.560 both be there simultaneously for the first one. I don't know, 117 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:53.879 but regardless, it's gonna be a good time, and I 118 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.360 do regret that I can't go. All right, well, let 119 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.240 me let me just get into Zostrianos. So admittedly, I'm 120 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.639 gonna give a disclaimer here that usually when I read 121 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.560 any sort of text that I talk about on the show, 122 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:12.079 in my head, I'm sort of imagining that the listener, 123 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.879 if I'm doing a well enough job, which I'm like, 124 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:18.839 how could I know, I'm imagining that the listener would 125 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.560 somewhat become intrigued enough to check it out for themselves 126 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.279 and would be moved to read, to research them, to 127 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:31.720 look into them. Because I am personally a big believer 128 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.360 in first hand sources. So if you want to learn 129 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.959 about something, you need to go right to the source. Great, 130 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.439 listen to me talk about it. That's wonderful. You may 131 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.360 learn new stuff that you've never heard about. But ultimately, 132 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.240 the best way to learn is to look at sources 133 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.560 yourself with your own eyes. That's how I was trained 134 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:50.360 in college. You know, we were like required to go 135 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:53.240 and look at certain first hand sources and then read 136 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.959 books where authors are discussing them and talking about them 137 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.040 in modern times, so you have to learn about the 138 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.399 difference between like first hand sources and second sources. So 139 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:03.959 in my head, I'm always like, I'm sure they're checking 140 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.639 these out at home, right, Someone's got to be now. 141 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.480 The disclaimer is this text that I'm going to talk 142 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.279 about tonight. Although it is profoundly interesting, I probably would 143 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.319 not recommend it to my worst enemy. And it was 144 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:22.120 a trudge to get through, and it is very repetitive, 145 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.639 and when you google it it even speaks how out 146 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.439 of the entire Nagamadi library, it is probably the most 147 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.199 difficult one to get through, and of course I read 148 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:33.360 that after I sat there for a few hours and 149 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.279 read it today and again. It is very interesting and 150 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.440 it's very valuable, and it's very important to the Gnostic cosmology. 151 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:45.679 But it's not exactly an interesting read. The material is interesting. 152 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.320 It's like Lord of the Rings. And I know people 153 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.440 will get upset about this. I love Lord of the Rings. 154 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.320 I love the movies. I've seen them like a dozen 155 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.519 times through every one of them since I was a kid. 156 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.279 The book I've tried two or three times. Back when 157 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.080 I was in high school. I was a big reader, dude. 158 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.720 I would read books like that like days. I would 159 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.759 consume seven hundred page books. Literally. One time I read 160 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:10.399 one in one sitting. It was Harry Potter seven and 161 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.240 it took me twelve hours. I was the kind of 162 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.120 kid where if you gave me a book that was interesting, 163 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:16.200 I would just blow through it. And I tried to 164 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.399 read through The Fellowship of the Rings or The Fellowship 165 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.799 of the Ring three times and the Hobbit, and I 166 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.480 just I never could commit. And of course that doesn't 167 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.000 mean it's a bad book or it's anything like that. 168 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.960 It's just the way that it was written was not 169 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:36.960 necessarily engaging. It didn't. It didn't keep me. It was 170 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.279 very much over And this is just my opinion. I 171 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.080 know there's a lot of people that'd be like boom, 172 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.240 but a lot of people I do talk to who 173 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.440 are diehard Lord of the Rings fans they say the 174 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.480 same things. They're like, you know, watch the movies. The 175 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.120 books are amazing. Read them, but that's for the super nerds. 176 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:55.000 It's just the way it's written, right, the jargon. So 177 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:57.960 that's kind of the case with Ostriano's here. It's not 178 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.679 a bad text, it's very important, but the way that 179 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:05.320 it was written was so hard to commit to. This 180 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.440 is probably the first time that I'm going to come 181 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.000 out and be like, eh, let's just talk about this one. 182 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.159 I don't think you're going to be very like, ooh, 183 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.720 this is riveting material when you're reading it, because it's 184 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:23.759 just enormous, repetitious praises to ineffable beings and then little 185 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:28.120 tiny bouts of exposition about the cosmology of the universe, 186 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.200 and then it'll be like paragraphs and paragraphs of praise 187 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.000 as of beings with a bunch of Greek names, and 188 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.399 it's like, dude, if they slashed out all that and 189 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.960 then just had all the combined parts talking about the 190 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.399 cosmology and the nature of the soul and the ineffable. 191 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.200 They could have slashed like sixty percent of it and 192 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.320 it would have been like, Oh my god, this is 193 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:46.679 mind blowing, you know what I mean. 194 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.399 Do you think in a sense that it might act 195 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.120 as a barrier or like a built in sort of 196 00:10:54.200 --> 00:11:01.360 initiatic thing where you know that maybe it's written in 197 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.200 that way to deter a lot of people. 198 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.720 It could be that that's possible. It's definitely an initiatic text, 199 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:11.360 because as we know, with all of the Gnostic texts, 200 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.440 they are in some way initiatic, purportedly containing, you know, 201 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.240 the secret teachings of Jesus, some of them literally they'll say, 202 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.759 like the Secret Gospel of John, the Secret Gospel of 203 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.840 you know, so on and so forth. There's there's several 204 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:31.200 secret gospels known as the apocryphaons, right like the Apocryphon 205 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.600 of John, the Apocaphon of James, the Apocaphon of Truth, 206 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.039 stuff like that. So, yeah, no doubt, And I'm gonna 207 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:39.919 discuss that in the material because I did read it. 208 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.440 I actually did trudge through the whole text. I down 209 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.399 till like twenty minutes before Alex got here, I was 210 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.360 reading it and trying to finish it, and I was 211 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:50.320 just like, oh my god, I just fried my brain. 212 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:55.200 It was so much of a mental obstacle to stay 213 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.639 focused on the text because of the jargon. But despite 214 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.919 all that, it is amazing, and in the nature of 215 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.399 what it is claiming, it is profound too, and I'm 216 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.159 going to go into all that, but there are moments 217 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.039 in the text that are very clearly speaking to the 218 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.519 nature of the mysteries, and at one point it even 219 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:19.039 mentions that. So we've discussed this before a long time ago, 220 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:23.440 but in gnostic cosmology, particularly in Valentinian gnostic cosmology, but 221 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:28.120 tonight the text that we're discussing is Sethian. There were 222 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.120 different schools of Gnostic thought in the day, just like 223 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.679 today you have Baptists, you have Pentecostal, you have Methodists. 224 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.200 It's the same concept. They were a group of people 225 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.320 who had a similar idea, but they had like different 226 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:40.799 little caveats on how they believed it, and they clung 227 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.039 to each other. And that's that. There's nothing more. So 228 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:51.080 there are three versions of human incarnation in Gnostic cosmology, 229 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:55.000 and then they have slightly slight disagreements in Valentinian and 230 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:59.799 Gnostic I mean Sethi a gnosticism. So it's commonly known 231 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:04.639 as the high licks, which are if you think of 232 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:11.679 the NPCs of the world who have no measure of 233 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:16.559 spiritual inclination or desire to connect to God or to 234 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.320 be good or righteous or anything. They're completely material, They're 235 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:24.080 completely trapped in the ignorance of the illusion, and they 236 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.080 are you know, degenerate, and they shown absolutely no outward 237 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.360 signs of being intrigued by the mysteries or wanting to 238 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.639 connect to a higher power. That is the high lix. 239 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.799 They are basically seen as being dead inside, that they 240 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:43.679 are completely a material incarnation with no essence of spirit, 241 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.559 and that they belong to the physical world, and that 242 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:49.600 they are a part of the physical world. So that's 243 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:52.559 the HIGHLYX. And then you have the psychics, which are 244 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:58.559 people who are psychic literally psychic, and they are spiritual, 245 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.039 but they are still not fully awakened, so they have 246 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.919 the disposition to maybe they're connected to mainstream religions. Maybe 247 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.720 they And again this is Gnostic thought. This isn't me 248 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.039 making this up. This is several thousand year old writings, right, 249 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.039 but maybe they're connected to mainstream religions and they still 250 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.039 have attachment to the world, and they don't fully see 251 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.799 through the illusion, but they are to a degree awakened, 252 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.759 and they have psychic ability, and they have a soul. 253 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.679 And then there are the pneumatics, which is the Greek 254 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.919 word numa, which is soul, and they are like the 255 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.639 fully realized or the fully awakened, or as the Seth. 256 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.360 The Agnostics believed it was the descendants of Seth, who 257 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.600 in biblical terms, was the son of Adam and Eve. 258 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.679 After Cain enable you know, able to slaughter, and then 259 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.840 Cain wanders. You know that story, right, He gets the 260 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.559 the curse mark of God on his head and you know, 261 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.679 you get the whole avenged sevenfold if any being would 262 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.279 harm him, and his wrath is to roam the earth 263 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.480 and terror and he can't die. That that whole story. 264 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.279 So then after that thing happens with Canaan Abele Adam, 265 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.200 and you have another son named Seth. So the Sethian 266 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.440 Gnostics believed that they were the descendants of Seth, and 267 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:17.320 that the divine revelation of these mysteries of God before 268 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:21.080 Jesus Christ incarnated. They believe that an angel of revelation 269 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:26.000 appeared to Seth, or even rather actually appeared to Adam 270 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:29.720 and revealed to him the mysteries of his son in 271 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:31.720 the lineage of his son Seth, and how they would 272 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.000 go on to be connected to Christ somehow. I haven't 273 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:40.039 read all the Sethian text, but it's it's interesting anyway. 274 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.679 So back to the pneumatics. So the pneumatics were believed 275 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.039 to be the fully awakened and Sethian versions. They believe 276 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.480 they're the descendants of Seth, and that they are fully 277 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:53.200 realized spirit, and that they completely see through the illusion 278 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:55.840 of the physical world, and that they reduce their attachments, 279 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:00.840 and that they are at their will. When they are ready, 280 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.039 they can fully awaken, be on the physical world and 281 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:09.000 no longer incarnate here. So that's the pneumatics. This whole 282 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.879 soliloquy was about. At some point in the text, it 283 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.840 refers to the awakened ones as neophytes of the mysteries, 284 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:20.600 and if you know anything about that terminology, a neophyte 285 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:26.480 is a candidate to receive the mysteries. So we're talking 286 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:33.799 about a Sethian Christian gnostic text written in the two 287 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.559 hundreds a d. That we know because of the writings 288 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:44.039 of Platonists and Porphyry, that it was somehow this school 289 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:47.440 of thought, the Sethian Gnostics were connected to the modern 290 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:53.159 at the time Neoplatonists, who were the you know, Plato 291 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.200 lived four hundred years BC. For years and years and years, 292 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:01.799 there was still mystery schools and wisdom schools devoted to 293 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.799 maintaining the teachings of Plato, and they were called the Neoplatonists. 294 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.079 And we know because of these historical writers that the 295 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:12.759 Neoplatonists and that the Gnostics in many cases were friends, 296 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.119 and that they influenced each other. And what do we 297 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.039 know about Plato? That he was an initiative of the 298 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.279 mysteries which came from where Egypt, which, by the way, 299 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:25.279 the author of this text Zostrianos, which is written in 300 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.319 the first person, and it is from the man himself 301 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:32.160 describing his mystical is sent through the heavenly realms up 302 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.400 to the highest aon of the lady, which in this 303 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:42.200 text is referred to as Barbello, the first emanated one. 304 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:47.559 That Zostrianos even indicates that there may this is a 305 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.119 big deal, that there may be a direct line of 306 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:55.440 succession of his ancestry all the way back to Zoroaster. 307 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.839 So we have an actual historical text here that is 308 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.160 connecting so many different traditions at once. It's connecting the Greeks, 309 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.240 it's connecting the Egyptians, it's connecting the Zoroastrian magi, and 310 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.400 it's connecting the Christian sethi Agnostics. So that is a 311 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.240 big deal because a modern day Remember what I say, 312 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.480 the text is important, but it's boring to read. But 313 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:19.119 that doesn't mean it's not important. Right, leave this one 314 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:25.079 to the scholars read it. I'm not I'm never gonna 315 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.519 say like, don't read this. I'm just telling you it'll 316 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.680 probably bore you. You know, I'm kind of like being 317 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:31.599 tongue in cheek. But check it out if you're curious. 318 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.559 But you know, there's a lot to glean from the 319 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.200 importance of this text because it opens the door to 320 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:42.039 the connection of all these mysteries. Whereas in the modern 321 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.240 world we're supposed to believe they're separate because we're taught 322 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.519 that they're separate. We're taught that Christianity has nothing to 323 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.599 do with these and that they're pagan. But that's not 324 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.200 the case, and that in this day and time there 325 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.640 were people connected to genuine Christian schools of thought before 326 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.759 they were ruled as heresy in the three hundreds and 327 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.319 then brutally suppressed and killed, and they had to hide 328 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.880 their texts in non commodity Egypt. And here we are 329 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:08.079 today talking about it like it's such a mystery. But 330 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.839 in the day they were genuine Christian schools of thoughts. 331 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:13.880 So for them to even use a word such as 332 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:20.519 neophyte in a text that is connected to a group 333 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:25.920 of individuals who are maintaining teachings of Jesus Christ and 334 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.559 the biblical tradition, to use a word such as neophyte, 335 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:35.519 there's a lot of questions that unfold because neophyte, you know, 336 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:38.279 for example, where can you find a neophyte in the 337 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:43.319 Rosicrucian tradition when you go through the first degree, not 338 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:46.319 degree of initiation, but that when you profess that you 339 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:50.640 seek to become a Rosicrucian, you become I'm pretty sure 340 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:56.640 that first title that you receive is neophyte. And this 341 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.799 this word, this methodology of becoming a neo as someone 342 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:04.680 who is seeking to become initiated into the inner mysteries 343 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.799 and thus having to prove candidacy to receive the mysteries. 344 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:10.480 You see what I'm saying. So you asked, is it 345 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:13.319 a barrier and is an initiatic text? Yes, it is 346 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:15.880 an initiatic text. And you could be right. It could 347 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.359 be having all of this dialogue about praises to the 348 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:20.680 higher beings and all these random Greek names that you've 349 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.079 never heard of. It could be that, or it could 350 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.200 be that, you know, to the ancient thinker who's connected 351 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:28.000 to these schools of thought, that if you read between 352 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:34.279 the lines that they're they are showing you a level 353 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:40.799 of ineffable cosmology through going through orders of magnitude, describing beings, 354 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.920 saying things such as, you know, the invisible one, the 355 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:48.079 triple powered one, the immaterial one, and so on and 356 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.799 so forth. So they're creating an image in the mind 357 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.200 of the reader of a cosmology and scale of being 358 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:58.680 that is ineffable and undescribable that can only be understood 359 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.640 through the assay of the soul from the body through 360 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:07.359 these spiritual realms. So hopefully you could kind of see 361 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:09.400 why I would want to talk about this text so badly, 362 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.119 even though it was a trudge to read, you know, 363 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:18.960 So Zostrianos when you read like the scholarly interpretations of 364 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:24.519 the text is claimed to be, as I said before, 365 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.799 a descendant of either Zoroaster or a descendant of like 366 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.960 the grandfather of Zoroaster, whatever that means, right, And Zostrianos 367 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:38.720 hisself is a Greek word for a Persian name. So 368 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:46.000 the point of this text is Zostrianos is essentially out 369 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:50.839 in the desert. He is destitute, he's alone, he's suffering, 370 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.079 and he's trapped by his vices of the physical world, 371 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:58.799 and he has not received the spiritual mysteries or the 372 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:03.319 baptism of the light. So he wants to kill himself. Actually, 373 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.720 he's on the verge of killing himself, and then an 374 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.079 angel appears to him. And actually I had highlighted the quote. 375 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:11.880 I'm pretty sure where it appeared to him. I highlighted 376 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:14.640 a ton of quotes from this book, because you know, 377 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.680 if you slashed out about sixty percent of it, there 378 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.440 was some really interesting material here. 379 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.359 Hey, everybody, this is Alex of Bledsoe has said. 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