Speaker 1: Wow wow, you know.
Speaker 2: Hey man, Welcome everybody. It's Tuesday, August thirteen, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the only show about Spartan Dogs hosted by
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Speaker 2: Jason straight Horned Law, my co host, Centric.
Speaker 1: Swerve and Irvin. Oh look extra today you feel soon
Speaker 1: I get closer and close to the football. Is my
Speaker 1: favorite time of the year.
Speaker 3: Straight yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: My favorite time yours and my favorite time of the year.
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Speaker 2: Obviously Woody Carr in the house from Hawaii, a lot
Speaker 2: of Spartsan now see lands in the house. That is
Speaker 2: that brighton Michigan. I see Brighton Michigan as well. Swerve,
Speaker 2: you said it seventeen days. Man, until we get to
Speaker 2: be in that stadium, brother one more time, fau get
Speaker 2: to be in the booth with my man George right one.
Speaker 3: What I love to do, what everybody loves to do.
Speaker 2: Is watch a spartan football game. But I'm blessed to
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to call the football games. Swerve, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be in the house too.
Speaker 3: Now straight.
Speaker 1: The good thing about what I learned about going with
Speaker 1: the game with you and I go up there in
Speaker 1: the boot man the sweet food for free.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait, man. They eat so good up there.
Speaker 1: It's so different when you different than the food down
Speaker 1: when the other people sitting down. I get to be
Speaker 1: up there with the the suburb people.
Speaker 3: Man, eat good. Straight, I can't wait the suburb people.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, you know you know boy Rev. You
Speaker 3: know he gets you right.
Speaker 2: Oh, all the grass being swerved, got the sunglasses on everything.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I just can't wait. Straight I'm talking about
Speaker 1: they eat good. They gotta pillay me young. They got
Speaker 1: the good dip in there with the with the nice tortedos.
Speaker 1: They got the good hot dogs, the chunky hot dogs,
Speaker 1: not the little skinny hot dogs. Man, thew eat food
Speaker 1: is so great. I can't wait, brother, and is free.
Speaker 3: You can't you can't beat free if for me all
Speaker 3: day long?
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, I mean, you know, so we got
Speaker 2: the game on August thirty, as everybody knows seventeen seventeen
Speaker 2: days away, we're gonna call the game. See Michigan State
Speaker 2: go out to a nice victory for Jonathan Smith's first
Speaker 2: victory as an MSU head football coach.
Speaker 3: You don't see all kinds of highlights.
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna be talking about it because the
Speaker 2: next day we got a big time event. Brother, we're
Speaker 2: gonna announce it right here, and that's gonna be joining
Speaker 2: us for Saturday, August thirty first at the McDonald's on
Speaker 2: sagging On Highway. Here it is right here, forty fifteen
Speaker 2: West Sagona Highway. That's John Campbell's new operator owner over there.
Speaker 2: Former Spartan Dog right there, who's gonna be doing a fundraiser.
Speaker 3: To help support Marion Smith and his family.
Speaker 2: As you know, if you haven't heard the news, his mother, Gala,
Speaker 2: unfortunately passed last Thursday. While we were talking about it
Speaker 2: on the show a little bit didn't know exactly what
Speaker 2: the stage was, but she did in fact past. The
Speaker 2: funeral arrangements will be talked about here. In the next
Speaker 2: couple of days. We'll push it out on social media platforms,
Speaker 2: but swear we're gonna be there. He's gonna have a
Speaker 2: lot of players, current and former players there. Basketball gonna
Speaker 2: be in the house, but we got Aiden Childs, he's
Speaker 2: The confirmed players were Aiden Childs, Jordan Hall, Nick marsh
Speaker 2: and Dylan Tatum. Definitely gonna be in the house. We
Speaker 2: might get Sparty and all kinds of things going off
Speaker 2: for this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I know Aiden child say he's gonna buy
Speaker 1: me a big meg meal. Jordan Hall, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: get a couple of dollars from Nick Marshall to you know,
Speaker 1: it's all about they gotta take care of Og. They
Speaker 1: called me Og. Okay, I let the O g Leffis Wyley.
Speaker 1: We had to bring your while for this one. And
Speaker 1: then I just went by McDonald's right and they got
Speaker 1: they you can get You can get forty nuggets for
Speaker 1: ten dollars. You mean to tell me, Nick, they can't
Speaker 1: put two three dollars together and get the ol G
Speaker 1: some forty nuggets.
Speaker 3: That's all I need. I'm good for two hours.
Speaker 2: For two hours, We're gonna have to go longer than
Speaker 2: that because we got to work. We're gonna do a
Speaker 2: live taping the show. We're gonna do some interviews and man,
Speaker 2: I don't want to see you in the Ronald McDonald
Speaker 2: out there, but we're gonna have you know, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have some fun with it out here. Everybody's welcome to
Speaker 2: join in all the proceeds. You know, as we showed
Speaker 2: there in the edit, the graphic will be going towards
Speaker 2: Amaron Smithon's family. Remember six kids, you know, Gayala had six.
Speaker 2: Amaron is the oldest of six and there's five siblings
Speaker 2: now that he's gonna have to take care of going forward.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna do everything we can to help him. Uh,
Speaker 2: any spartan dog that's in need, we are all gonna
Speaker 2: rally and support him. So happy to see the numbers
Speaker 2: are growing and it's go fund me. There is a
Speaker 2: link to that. QR code is in the graphic that
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Speaker 1: I mean sh get your shipped together. I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a bad time, but I know we talked
Speaker 1: a couple of shows ago about me asking about the
Speaker 1: money I donated.
Speaker 3: You think that still be Wait after the first game
Speaker 3: or no, we can't do it.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe after the first game in twenty thirty five
Speaker 2: you can talk about it.
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Speaker 3: Swerve. We gotta talk about a.
Speaker 2: Young man that is signed, an incoming freshman that plays
Speaker 2: on the tennis team that just won the boys USTA
Speaker 2: Boys eighteams national title to earn a spot in the
Speaker 2: US Open.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 1: Hey, the thing that I'm learning about this tennis over
Speaker 1: the last four months is Michigan State Tennis is something
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: Wrecking with straight. I mean, we we We're gonna have
Speaker 3: a hell.
Speaker 1: Of a tennis team, you know, and you know, and
Speaker 1: that's something I would love to support. And now the
Speaker 1: school to support. I know the facility is not the best,
Speaker 1: but the product that they're getting in putting out, Oh man,
Speaker 1: you'll think they got the best facilities, but they got
Speaker 1: the best players right now and they kicking their so
Speaker 1: let's ship it to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's speaking of tennis. There's another player. Uh, let's
Speaker 2: bring this up that had some honors over the weekend.
Speaker 2: So it's if M fifteen. I don't know what that is,
Speaker 2: but he was a champ. Aristotleus Thanos best name in
Speaker 2: college sports, hands down. He's Greek, he's a Spartan and
Speaker 2: he's a champ.
Speaker 1: That last name, I think that means like like like
Speaker 1: like like in my turns in African turns me like
Speaker 1: Mandingo warrior Stanos. It's like equipment. You see that equivalent
Speaker 1: I'm learning for Listen. Yeah, yeah, you know, because last
Speaker 1: week it was moneytized. Now is equilivent. You know that
Speaker 1: last name is Equilivent. Took me from my tribe out
Speaker 1: in Zuluma. It's Mandingo warrior.
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well we're talking about tribes. Michigan State
Speaker 2: Basket is over there in Europe right now. Spartan's in Spain.
Speaker 2: They took off earlier the day they're on the flight
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 3: Uh so you have.
Speaker 2: Three games Madrid, Milencia and Barcelona on the fifteenth, eighteenth,
Speaker 2: and twentieth respectively.
Speaker 3: Basketball.
Speaker 2: Go hey, man, they gonna get it in over there,
Speaker 2: and there's some good basketball over there as we saw
Speaker 2: in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about the Olympics, Uh, you know, shout out
Speaker 1: to the USA and the women and the men coming
Speaker 1: with the gold.
Speaker 3: I saw the four by four they got the gold
Speaker 3: even with the both me and the women. And then
Speaker 3: also the little eighth not even eighteen. I think he's sixteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the youngest the able get a gold man. Magine
Speaker 1: going back to school. You just youre just on national TV.
Speaker 3: You know you you you.
Speaker 1: You over yoned over there in Paris, the camera on you,
Speaker 1: and now you got to go back to school. A man,
Speaker 1: what can you tell a kiddler and teacher? Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing work for the first nine weeks.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna do too much work with
Speaker 2: that kind of promise ahead of him.
Speaker 3: But swerve.
Speaker 2: Talking about the promise ahead, we need to see what
Speaker 2: happened with your drone. Man, Your drone been all over
Speaker 2: the country lately. Let's see, I got to.
Speaker 1: Get ready for this.
Speaker 3: I gotta show you.
Speaker 1: All right, so when I do my drones, raight, chake
Speaker 1: me out. I got to use this. And then I
Speaker 1: got my piece down here that I was showing you
Speaker 1: guys about. Right this This is how I controlled my
Speaker 1: drone and I got a camera right here that I
Speaker 1: look and I can.
Speaker 3: I can do it all.
Speaker 1: My guy told me if I lose forty pounds, they're
Speaker 1: working on a thing where I can get hooked up
Speaker 1: to the drone and it can take me to where
Speaker 1: I want to go.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that'd be careful. Man, Is that is that certified?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm willing to try.
Speaker 1: I told him I was on the Mama Hall diet,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I could ever get to
Speaker 1: forded that that that shit probably won't go. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if not, I got it right here. And this
Speaker 1: is what happened. Right, So I flewid to East Lanson,
Speaker 1: right because I see why coach got his practice in scrimmages.
Speaker 3: Uh uh close, because man, he cooking up something. You
Speaker 3: know they did.
Speaker 1: They did the move the field, you know, the offense.
Speaker 1: You know it was fifty to fifty offense, made some plays.
Speaker 1: We got some first down deepense stops on the couple
Speaker 1: third down.
Speaker 3: Then we went to the red zone and one of.
Speaker 1: The receivers had a quick little injury and so I
Speaker 1: didn't want to see much. So what I did straight
Speaker 1: was I got back on my thing, right, and I
Speaker 1: flew it back down.
Speaker 3: To Boca in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm one of those. I didn't do the
Speaker 1: um thing because I'm not you know, I'm not one
Speaker 1: of those. I just stayed. I just I just that
Speaker 1: dude from my Michigan state. The whole game, I just
Speaker 1: was there for like seven minutes. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: see the movement, wanted to see the body types and
Speaker 1: things like that. They they got some athletes, raight, they got.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be four in eight this
Speaker 1: year like there was last year. I saw the defense,
Speaker 1: defense running around they got. They got a good freshman
Speaker 1: safety out there. They got a hell of a running
Speaker 1: back that was running north and south and making people miss.
Speaker 1: But if I'm coaching like I did coach before, we
Speaker 1: just got to play big men football, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: lining those guys up six inches apart and just blast
Speaker 1: their ass. Got you know, we've got to bullet them,
Speaker 1: and we gotta send that message to the to whoever
Speaker 1: next on the schedule.
Speaker 3: But they got some athletes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they'll be four in but I
Speaker 1: don't think they got enough to beat us, But they
Speaker 1: looked good for the seven minutes that this up.
Speaker 3: And I got a new name for my drum. What's that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: You got death tell you got American Airlines? You got
Speaker 1: spired in Southwest Frontier. I called my drone air swerve.
Speaker 6: All.
Speaker 3: I was a little worried. I saw the mind came
Speaker 3: out in Fau.
Speaker 2: We're only favored like by eleven and a half over them,
Speaker 2: so that that kind of concerned me. But I see
Speaker 2: why they got some athletes, as you just said over there,
Speaker 2: you know, coming out of Bocal. But they got to
Speaker 2: come into Spartan Stadium baby on August thirtieth and seventeen
Speaker 2: short days. So I think there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of people in the stands to kind of cheer that
Speaker 2: new team in this new Jonathan Smith regime off right.
Speaker 3: We gotta get them, We gotta get.
Speaker 2: Them jumped off to a great start here, and I
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Speaker 2: I believe the way his physique, you know he did
Speaker 2: it the right waves.
Speaker 3: Bring him in.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's a pleasure to introduce a two time
Speaker 1: Big Ten All American Office Alignment of the Year. Two times.
Speaker 1: He's talking about a guy that was the second pick
Speaker 1: of the draft. Man, but straight, you don't even know
Speaker 1: he was in the draft with Troy Aikman, Dion Sanders,
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, at Waters, and his own teammate Andre Risen.
Speaker 1: This guy dominated his last two seasons to the point
Speaker 1: where he took a picture straight, Oh my god, and
Speaker 1: you see these little things.
Speaker 3: I got rady, he got like four of them or one.
Speaker 3: I thought I had pretty good.
Speaker 1: If you get to get the camera, he looked so
Speaker 1: good on that Sports Illustrated. If it was me, I
Speaker 1: would have spray painted that on my garage. It would
Speaker 1: be my screensaver anytime I meet somebody like.
Speaker 3: You're talking about a beast man.
Speaker 1: I'm proud to say he was a Spartan dog, he
Speaker 1: was alumni, he was a hell of a player. Man
Speaker 1: to you guys, he tony man. To me, he tony man.
Speaker 3: He was a man child.
Speaker 6: Come on in t Man.
Speaker 3: Choice this is a spartan.
Speaker 2: Man, sir.
Speaker 6: Another day. Great to be here to see you guys.
Speaker 6: That was quite an introduction, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Man, don't starting dog to a smart dog. Hold, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 1: Let's started off like this, T Man. You were seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Straight Horn was seventy nine, and he probably won't seventy
Speaker 1: nine because you made the number popular, you made the
Speaker 1: sec But.
Speaker 3: A good thing about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't look close to how you look. I mean
Speaker 1: he he bow legged in one leg, he pitched the
Speaker 1: toe in another leg, but stood up there. On man,
Speaker 1: you looked at you.
Speaker 6: Look man, I wish we would have played on the
Speaker 6: same team.
Speaker 1: Somebody nobody in the check, somebody in the chest. Say
Speaker 1: what step in? Now you wanted to play with? I say, okay, listen, this.
Speaker 3: Straight Horn was a good football player. You do that.
Speaker 3: Big something went on the team.
Speaker 1: But Tony Man, Tony man bloat that had him and
Speaker 1: big head ass man, I would have broken the Russian record.
Speaker 1: Lorenzo White Man, Lorenzo White would have had ship on
Speaker 1: me about a half bloat that had him Tony Man,
Speaker 1: big head ass straight.
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 6: Low White was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, shit on me. You can go tell him,
Speaker 3: I saying.
Speaker 6: I'm sure he'll hear it. I was lucky to play
Speaker 6: with some awesome, awesome football players and how an unbelievable
Speaker 6: coaching staff, just like everybody on that staff was, you know,
Speaker 6: looking back, like when you leave, you have really nothing
Speaker 6: of compared to You're like, yeah, they're coaches. But as
Speaker 6: you keep going on in life, whether it's football and
Speaker 6: after football, you start to realize a lot of the
Speaker 6: stuff that they taught me in college, I've ended up
Speaker 6: applying in my life. So you know, it's like you
Speaker 6: know George and Nick, and you know, you know Buck, Nisram, Morris, Watts,
Speaker 6: you know, and the list goes on. I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't want to. I mean, obviously I didn't mention some coaches,
Speaker 6: but there's too many to mention because there was so many.
Speaker 2: Man you talked about, you know, in your relationship with
Speaker 2: all those coaches, like give us some stories from those
Speaker 2: coaches back in the daytimes.
Speaker 1: And also me and I also tell us which coach
Speaker 1: you would have wanted to slap the shit out of
Speaker 1: you can see him again right now.
Speaker 6: Man, I'll tell you, uh, you know, I'm not oh man,
Speaker 6: oh man, look at that. Look at that and seventy
Speaker 6: pounds beside Nick. He was like, so you better get
Speaker 6: your ass in that weight room. Oh yeah, he's the reason.
Speaker 3: Is he the reason?
Speaker 6: Well, you know he made that crystal clear like that's
Speaker 6: just part of the program, right as far as getting bigger,
Speaker 6: and you're and you're gonna get bigger as you get
Speaker 6: the Michigan State and you start following the off season
Speaker 6: running and everything as you guys know, you know, the
Speaker 6: off season running was brutal, you know, five and I
Speaker 6: mean we used to run it. I don't know if Cedric.
Speaker 6: Cedric's pretty young, so he probably doesn't remember Jennison field
Speaker 6: House when we used to have to run there in
Speaker 6: the morning. I don't know if you it's straight. Did
Speaker 6: you guys run there? So Jennerson field House is where
Speaker 6: the basketball team used to play. Yeah, and we used
Speaker 6: to we used to have to wake up and buck
Speaker 6: buck Nister Brandow program, and we used to have to
Speaker 6: get up at five o'clock. We used to like be
Speaker 6: at Jennison Fieldhouse ready to go full sprint by six am.
Speaker 6: And in the winter, I mean it's brutal, right, So
Speaker 6: we're stretching through snow and tucking through snow and getting
Speaker 6: there and changing out of our boots and stuff, and
Speaker 6: you know, I was like, wow, like, this is this
Speaker 6: is brutal, this is this is big time college football.
Speaker 6: And uh and you know what was awesome about Buck
Speaker 6: was he could squeeze every ounce of energy out of
Speaker 6: you and every bit of effort and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 6: He was an absolutely awesome coach. I mean there was
Speaker 6: some I mean, I don't know if I would have
Speaker 6: said that when I was there, okay, because there was
Speaker 6: many times I was like cussing under my breath, right,
Speaker 6: But all that discipline, all that work, you know, translates
Speaker 6: into not just the football field, but into life, into life,
Speaker 6: and uh, Buck was a one of a kind. And
Speaker 6: then you know, when Buck left after three years, my
Speaker 6: first three years there, a guy named Pat Morris came.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: He had he had left USC and come in.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 6: He refined the offensive line, you know, and it was
Speaker 6: it was a great thing. He refined us. I was
Speaker 6: bummed out that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: We went to the Rose Bowl that next year. I
Speaker 6: was I was bummed out that Buck wasn't part of that.
Speaker 6: I mean, he although he was part of that because he,
Speaker 6: you know, shaped us over the first three years that
Speaker 6: offensive line to become what we are. But he didn't
Speaker 6: get to go to the Rose Bull So but he was.
Speaker 6: He was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, we thought Pat Morris, I remember Pat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think he was. I don't know how
Speaker 6: much longer he was there after I had left, but
Speaker 6: he was there my last two years and he was awesome.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: Coach Beckold was a tight end coach, so we obviously
Speaker 6: worked real close together because of just the tight ends
Speaker 6: working with the offensive line. But it was it was awesome.
Speaker 6: It was awesome. You know when we would be on
Speaker 6: the offensive field doing team drills or individual at the
Speaker 6: beginning of practice. You know, Buck was constantly yelling and
Speaker 6: all this, but it wasn't as bad as like the
Speaker 6: defensive field and you saw Nick and you could hear
Speaker 6: Nick yelling at the dvs and we're like, man, we
Speaker 6: thought we had it bad with Buck. I mean this
Speaker 6: coach Saban is like in their grill, So it was
Speaker 6: it was pretty crazy. It was pretty crazy. But I
Speaker 6: loved it. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3: Oh man. I mean those days.
Speaker 2: I mean, he here always hears stories about Coach Buck
Speaker 2: and now he you know, had problems with the production
Speaker 2: in the four hole.
Speaker 3: That's one thing that uh friends, the four hole.
Speaker 6: Wait straight, they didn't have any problems in the five hole.
Speaker 6: I'll say that, no problem. I'm going to say that's all.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, none at all. No.
Speaker 2: So when you were playing, who was the on the
Speaker 2: Misister State team? Who was the I guess, the.
Speaker 1: Most entertaining, colorful in the locker room?
Speaker 6: Oh man, that's a great question because there was more
Speaker 6: than one. You know, everybody. Everybody was entertaining, sometimes in
Speaker 6: a different way.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: You know the late great Greg Montgomery was I mean
Speaker 6: he was hilarious. I mean he was awesome, not only
Speaker 6: an awesome player, but an awesome guy. And you know
Speaker 6: his brother also played, you know, Steve played fullback. Greg
Speaker 6: was awesome. Uh. You know, Andre, who I know you
Speaker 6: just had a couple of last week or a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks. Andre. You know, let me just say this
Speaker 6: before I say Andrea was a prankster, But let me
Speaker 6: just say this. I can't verify it, But I cannot
Speaker 6: deny that Andre came up with Spartan dogs. You know,
Speaker 6: he's he's doing the copyright on that or claiming it.
Speaker 6: And I thought to myself when I was watching the
Speaker 6: podcast the other week, I kind of tilted my head
Speaker 6: and I said, did he come up with that? Or
Speaker 6: did I come up with that? No, I'm joking. I'm joking. No,
Speaker 6: I think I think I think it was Dre. It
Speaker 6: was Dre or one of the guys, and uh it
Speaker 6: was uh. You know, Andrea, in his own way was
Speaker 6: a prankster. You know, we all. I mean you remember
Speaker 6: Blake e'swer Yeah, I mean he was a prankster, especially
Speaker 6: when he took my truck. You know, he borrowed my
Speaker 6: truck one time. I gave him permission and I said,
Speaker 6: you know, make sure I get it back by the
Speaker 6: end of the night. You can't get hold of them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: It was like m I A missing an action. So
Speaker 6: the next day he's like, all apologize and I'm like,
Speaker 6: don't apologize. You just didn't give me my truck back.
Speaker 6: I need my truck. I needed my truck. So he
Speaker 6: you know, Blake was was a tough, tough kid. Short guy, right,
Speaker 6: but he's from Vegas and he was tough and he
Speaker 6: wouldn't take any smack from anybody. He was well. We
Speaker 6: would go out to since you know, Sensations and all places,
Speaker 6: and he would always you know, we would hang out
Speaker 6: together and he'd be like, hey, man, if anything happens tonight,
Speaker 6: you know you got me. You know, you got me covered.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, I got you covered. And then
Speaker 6: I brought him to the Silver Dollar Saloon where we
Speaker 6: had rock and roll bands and stuff, which unfortunately doesn't
Speaker 6: exist anymore. But that was a pretty wild place. There
Speaker 6: was some pretty crazy times. There was you.
Speaker 1: Guys, go the other way, to the other side where
Speaker 1: me and my well, don't worry about.
Speaker 6: What on the side saying yeah, Yeahedric, what are you saying?
Speaker 1: That's not what you know? You say up and save
Speaker 1: up your dollars. No where about we're talking about.
Speaker 3: I don't knowstions.
Speaker 2: People don't know where that the Sensations is where Harper's
Speaker 2: is now.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it was in the basement and upstairs with Duley's.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think Cedric's talking about that guy Omar Yeah, yeah, yeah, gentleman. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he was a good guys. Dude, Yeah he was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean he was all about you know, employment and
Speaker 6: stuff and the girls they were all going to school, right,
Speaker 6: they were like collecting money for their education. I've driven,
Speaker 6: I had driven by the place a few times. I
Speaker 6: had never gone in th.
Speaker 1: That's your story, you sticking to it right right, Hey,
Speaker 1: Tony Man, you know you appreciate you tuning into the
Speaker 1: to the podcast and they tell me you're watching today's
Speaker 1: football too. How would you compare today's football to to
Speaker 1: your time in playing? Because I thought of you and
Speaker 1: I knew he was breaking on the show and me
Speaker 1: and straight some both have kids down at IMG, right,
Speaker 1: and look at this line six seven three h five
Speaker 1: three fifteen six six three twenty five six four two
Speaker 1: ninety five.
Speaker 3: I can keep going like that's.
Speaker 1: The line that that that these guys down at IMG
Speaker 1: has for the quarterback and the running back to run after. Like,
Speaker 1: how can you compare the game to those lines nowadays?
Speaker 3: Into your die?
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's as far as the size of
Speaker 6: the players, you know, I obviously players haven't evolved that
Speaker 6: much in twenty years, Like where they're averaging three four
Speaker 6: is taller, and you know forty fifty pounds bigger, and
Speaker 6: they can still move. I mean that's the key, right,
Speaker 6: You got to be able to move does a matter
Speaker 6: of big yr I think it's been the science of nutrition,
Speaker 6: the best practices as far as you know how to
Speaker 6: train in the off season, how to train during the season,
Speaker 6: and staying on top of all that stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: make sure you get enough sleep. I mean, these things
Speaker 6: are all like, all these things are crucial. There's a
Speaker 6: talk that I give I title it like the spokes
Speaker 6: in a wheel, and each one of those things is
Speaker 6: a spoke that makes the whole wheel strong. And if
Speaker 6: you start eliminating a spoke and say you're only getting
Speaker 6: now four hours of sleep because your party, it's like
Speaker 6: the wheel doesn't fall apart, but it's not as strong
Speaker 6: as it was. So all those variables of nutrition, sleep,
Speaker 6: weight training, speed training, position, drill training, you know, off
Speaker 6: season stuff, all those things matter. I mean film, watching
Speaker 6: film matters and watching your opponents, studying your a it
Speaker 6: doing all those things are crucial to make the complete player.
Speaker 6: So when I you know, when I was at State,
Speaker 6: it was like, I mean, honestly, it was like lifting.
Speaker 6: I mean I was like lift as much as you
Speaker 6: as much weight as you can every time you step
Speaker 6: in the gym. And to me, that was like the
Speaker 6: definition of you know, all out, balls to the walls,
Speaker 6: like give it everything you got, And it was like that.
Speaker 6: It was it was a hardcore, you know workout. We
Speaker 6: might throw in a light workout, but then the next
Speaker 6: time we would do legs or whatever we were doing,
Speaker 6: it would be a heavy workout. And in the long run,
Speaker 6: that's a detriment because now I have, you know, certain
Speaker 6: aches and pains that do affect daily life. But you know,
Speaker 6: look when I was walking onto the second practice at
Speaker 6: Michigan State, like my fourth fifth year there at camp,
Speaker 6: It's like I could barely get out of bed. And
Speaker 6: I was like, and I thought to myself, I'm twenty
Speaker 6: one years old and I can barely get out of bed.
Speaker 6: And by the time I warm up, I'm okay. And
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, obviously there's going to be some issues down
Speaker 6: the road, but is it worth it? Absolutely so. The
Speaker 6: game has changed. The game has changed. What I don't
Speaker 6: like is, especially in the NFL, the rule changes have
Speaker 6: protected people too much. Like look at what Jerry Rice
Speaker 6: did is absolutely phenomenal, and he did it in an
Speaker 6: era where when you're crossing the middle you could get
Speaker 6: your head taken off by Steve Atwater or Ronnie Lott
Speaker 6: or somebody. Now you cannot hit a defenseless receiver. That
Speaker 6: affects how fast that guy's right, he's not going to
Speaker 6: get alligator arms, right, he's gonna you know, look, Dre.
Speaker 6: I never saw Dre afraid to catch a ball coming
Speaker 6: across the middle, you know. I mean, he was a
Speaker 6: tough set of a gun as well as one of
Speaker 6: the best athletes I've ever seen on the field. But
Speaker 6: so the game has changed there. And I'm not I'm
Speaker 6: for the protection of players for their health, but if
Speaker 6: you really want that, don't play football. You know, I
Speaker 6: think you're changing the game too much. And then you
Speaker 6: know when even when I was in Indianapolis at camp
Speaker 6: in the mid to late nineties, our first six days
Speaker 6: we would get like eleven practices in hitting practices of camp,
Speaker 6: and that was like four or five days before the
Speaker 6: first preseason game. Now, you know, I envy these guys
Speaker 6: because I don't think they're allowed to have more inten
Speaker 6: hitting practices all of camp, you know, over the movie,
Speaker 6: not even.
Speaker 1: Right nowadays, they got you got to have a hat day,
Speaker 1: you got to have a cool down day.
Speaker 3: No more too days. I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: I hate this so our career, you know, our careers
Speaker 6: would have lasted longer because of that, because we're not
Speaker 6: pun But you know, you're also I think you also
Speaker 6: get certain injuries by not that of having that repetition
Speaker 6: of hitting. You know, I would come into camp at
Speaker 6: Michigan State in phenomenal shape, but there was you just
Speaker 6: couldn't simulate practice. I'd be sucking ara those first couple
Speaker 6: of practices because you just can't simulate that until you're
Speaker 6: in it. After a couple a couple of practices, I'd
Speaker 6: be fine. But and I think not having that, I
Speaker 6: think is the effected the game. And uh, you know,
Speaker 6: me being old school and you know the era I
Speaker 6: played in, Yeah, I don't like it as much. Is
Speaker 6: it more exciting because more points get scored? I don't know.
Speaker 6: I've seen some pretty good, you know, seventeen ten games
Speaker 6: that were pretty exciting the whole time to watch, you know,
Speaker 6: So you're right.
Speaker 2: I think that they did some some surveys with people,
Speaker 2: and look, they want more fans. You know, the NFL
Speaker 2: is they want right, big wide audience and the points
Speaker 2: is what won. So you know, they took rules against
Speaker 2: you know, protecting the quarterback and receivers, and they took
Speaker 2: the defense basically out of the game, just like they've
Speaker 2: done in basketball. But tell you, one thing that I
Speaker 2: have seen was specifically relates to the offensive line. And
Speaker 2: I mean, I know this, this is something that's near
Speaker 2: and did in your heart too, said, but they said,
Speaker 2: that's one position that has not evolved because and we
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about right now is because of
Speaker 2: the lack of contact. It's hard to get better at
Speaker 2: that position when you don't practice it at full speed.
Speaker 2: So you know, as you see your your athleticism when
Speaker 2: you talked about when you were at the combat once
Speaker 2: you run in the forty by the way.
Speaker 6: For four sixty four was my fastest, damn said, I
Speaker 6: was pulling out. I was pulling away.
Speaker 3: I just want to ask a question. I just want
Speaker 3: to ask him. You can lie. Tony looked good. I mean,
Speaker 3: he looked good.
Speaker 1: He had all this, you know, he had all that
Speaker 1: he had on the tight Bichael short you know, he
Speaker 1: looked good, you know, but.
Speaker 3: He's not beat me and no race. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say, whatever you're trying to say,
Speaker 1: whatever I read, Tony, ain't be me.
Speaker 3: And no race, damn I saw that.
Speaker 2: I see that the times don't match up. That's all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Tony.
Speaker 6: What you weigh when you ran that three eighty three eight?
Speaker 6: You know, if I would have known that we're going
Speaker 6: to compare traps tonight, I would have were medium.
Speaker 1: Shirts of guys like this mediums now.
Speaker 3: No. No, we definitely got a guy in the chat.
Speaker 3: Ain't Steve. That's all he wears every time we see him.
Speaker 3: Is just keeping.
Speaker 6: Our man, our guy right medium. Hey, look your arm
Speaker 6: flick bigger, right? If you look good, you play good?
Speaker 1: Hey, Tony, take me take me through your draft day, right,
Speaker 1: because I look at that list, man, you're talking about
Speaker 1: at least four or five, you know, hall of famers.
Speaker 3: Take me through your draft.
Speaker 6: For four of them, to be specific.
Speaker 3: Mike, Look at Mike, Look at Mike.
Speaker 1: They ran a four or five eight and and and
Speaker 1: I had COVID before it was COVID.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had the squish flu. I love it. I
Speaker 6: love it.
Speaker 1: To take me through that draft. Did you know you
Speaker 1: was going number two? Take me through the whole thing
Speaker 1: you send down was you at the draft, but to
Speaker 1: get drafted number two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, Uh, green Bay, Like Dallas came out
Speaker 6: I think two weeks prior and said that they were
Speaker 6: going to draft Aikman because I think they were already
Speaker 6: negotiating a contract before they even drafted him. And you know, basically,
Speaker 6: green Bay came out and said if Dallas thanks Troy,
Speaker 6: that green Bay is going to take me. And and
Speaker 6: that's basically what happened. And I at that time, for
Speaker 6: nine months, I lived in California. So they flew me
Speaker 6: to green Bay for the draft and and this was
Speaker 6: this was kind of like a cool thing that they did.
Speaker 6: You know, green Bay, the Packers, the organization like first class,
Speaker 6: and the fans are just unbelievable. Like any stadium we
Speaker 6: would go do to play, a third of the stadium
Speaker 6: was Packer fans. And they weren't traveling fans. They were
Speaker 6: fans that were native to whatever city we were playing.
Speaker 6: But on that draft day, they had me from their
Speaker 6: you know, war room, call New York and call the
Speaker 6: green Bay Packer desk, and so I have to call
Speaker 6: them and say, hey, draft me. Okay, So they would
Speaker 6: then pass the message on to the commissioner and then
Speaker 6: that's how the draft happened. So it was like one
Speaker 6: of those once in a lifetime opportunities that you get,
Speaker 6: and it was I thought it was. I thought it
Speaker 6: was really cool and always be grateful for that. So
Speaker 6: you know, when I got to Green Bay, it was,
Speaker 6: it was, it was, you know, great. I had a
Speaker 6: bad attitude, uh, to say the least. It wasn't the
Speaker 6: place I wanted to go. And unfortunately, because of my
Speaker 6: bad attitude with the whole thing, you know, I didn't
Speaker 6: realize how much tradition was wrapped up in Green Bay
Speaker 6: and what they represented and all this stuff. So, you know,
Speaker 6: looking back, even not many years later, when I was
Speaker 6: an indie, looking back at the Packers, I was like, boy,
Speaker 6: I wish I would have appreciated that a lot more
Speaker 6: because that was like an iconic place to play. And
Speaker 6: but you know, I still have good memories and I
Speaker 6: have some memories that aren't so good from there. But
Speaker 6: those bad memories were of you know, my own fault,
Speaker 6: my eyr boy's fault.
Speaker 3: So when you said that you didn't you didn't want
Speaker 3: to go there?
Speaker 2: What what was your idea where's your ideal place landing
Speaker 2: spot coming out?
Speaker 6: Well, I wanted to well, I would say if they
Speaker 6: said you could play anywhere, I would have said the
Speaker 6: Raiders because they were in LA at the time. It
Speaker 6: would have been a big market for advertising. So and
Speaker 6: then you know, knowing it's a short career, you know,
Speaker 6: even if you play. You know, I ended up playing
Speaker 6: seven years. Lucky enough to play seven That's a short
Speaker 6: career for anything that you do in life. As far
Speaker 6: as a career goes, Yeah, I think the average career
Speaker 6: is two and a half years in the NFL, So
Speaker 6: I wanted to go somewhere where I could make the
Speaker 6: biggest impact, not just in football, but in advertising dollars,
Speaker 6: whatever that may be. And you know what, Green Bay
Speaker 6: did have good opportunity for that. I just had this
Speaker 6: sense of if I'm in a bigger city, there's going
Speaker 6: to be more opportunity. Whether it was New York, LA, Miami,
Speaker 6: Dallas what you know, obviously wasn't going to be Dallas,
Speaker 6: but any big market like that ended up in probably
Speaker 6: one of the smallest markets, but one of the teams
Speaker 6: with the richest traditions.
Speaker 2: So you always had that marketing maing there We talked
Speaker 2: about it before. When you're on the show, like as
Speaker 2: a young little lad watching you, you know, on cover
Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrating those things, you had that whole thing
Speaker 2: going way back before your time looking at today's athlete, right,
Speaker 2: nil is a thing we asked people a lot, like
Speaker 2: what would your nil value be today if you were
Speaker 2: playing in Michigan State.
Speaker 6: You know, that's a I've pondered that for about a
Speaker 6: one second because I'm like, I'm like, it would have
Speaker 6: been awesome. Then I go next, right, like to get
Speaker 6: back to reality. It's like, you know what it did?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I probably would have made more money
Speaker 6: with that than I did in the pros, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean the way with all the hype, and then
Speaker 6: you know, being on the cover of Sports Illustrated just
Speaker 6: launched everything like up to the outer space as far
Speaker 6: as exposure and as far as media reach. You know,
Speaker 6: got to go on David Letterman after that, and you know,
Speaker 6: they asked me to go on David Letterman. I'm in college,
Speaker 6: I'm like one of my favorite shows at night to
Speaker 6: watch with David Letterman. And then like you're on the show, right,
Speaker 6: and it's like, so it was like surreal, But you know,
Speaker 6: the nil money would have been nice. You know, I
Speaker 6: think about this, So I went to the NFL. I
Speaker 6: was one of the first NFL offensive lineman in the
Speaker 6: NFL that made a seventh figure base salary, like per
Speaker 6: year of my contract ten years prior to that in
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy nine. So think about the Steelers, because they
Speaker 6: won four Super Bowls in that mid to late part
Speaker 6: of the seventies. Like, their average salary on their offensive
Speaker 6: line and almost all those guys were all pros, was
Speaker 6: less than one hundred thousand dollars. And you know, inflation
Speaker 6: didn't Inflation didn't go up that much in ten years, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, it went up that much in the last
Speaker 6: four years, but it didn't go up that much in
Speaker 6: the last ten years.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: I always have to bring politics into it, don't I.
Speaker 6: Now I need to save space. Now I need to
Speaker 6: save space. But you know, when you think about that,
Speaker 6: like the way I looked at it was like the
Speaker 6: NFL was built on the shoulders or the guys before
Speaker 6: me and growing up, I mean the Steelers at that
Speaker 6: time growing up was one of my favorite teams. So Webster,
Speaker 6: Mike Webster, course, and you know, all those great offensive
Speaker 6: linemen they had and defensive linemen, those are the guys
Speaker 6: I looked up to, and you know, they were only
Speaker 6: making that much money and they were going through the
Speaker 6: same stuff we were going through as far as physical
Speaker 6: you know, practices, if not even more, because they had
Speaker 6: equipment that wasn't as good. And when I compare our
Speaker 6: equipment even in the pros in the late eighties early nineties,
Speaker 6: the equipment compared now to high school equipment like helmets alone,
Speaker 6: is just like it's like crazy the difference. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: you know, now offensive linemen are making you know, backups
Speaker 6: are making multiple millions a year, and I'm like happy
Speaker 6: for make as much as you can as long as
Speaker 6: you can because it ain't gonna last, you know, forever.
Speaker 6: But again, inflation didn't go up that much in thirty years,
Speaker 6: like where it went tenfold, right or twentyfold, But so
Speaker 6: you know, it was the time, and I kind of
Speaker 6: feel like I contributed a little bit to breaking that
Speaker 6: ceiling for making seven figures for an offensive lineman because
Speaker 6: it was offensive lineman in the NFL. Munnos and I
Speaker 6: could go down the list, Jackie Slater, just tons of
Speaker 6: guys that were just awesome players that should have been
Speaker 6: making that kind of money easily, and you know the
Speaker 6: next year, a lot of them did. And at least
Speaker 6: I tell myself, hopefully I was one of the people
Speaker 6: that broke that ceiling for them.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to tell yourself. It's a
Speaker 2: fact everybody you raised the bar offensive Lineman. I mean
Speaker 2: you threatened to go what you say you're gonna rip
Speaker 2: my Tyson's head off?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 6: What? Don't don't remind him? Well, you know, like Mike
Speaker 6: Tyson had like really like he was almost unchallenged the
Speaker 6: whole time at that point. So s I comes out again,
Speaker 6: another opportunity arises and they say, hey, look, you know,
Speaker 6: would you would you even consider fighting Mike Tyson? And
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, I'll fight him if the price is
Speaker 6: right right. So, you know, we negotiated, we got closer
Speaker 6: and closer, but we never resolved it. And then I
Speaker 6: think what it did help was it helped give the
Speaker 6: packers a nudge to get me signed, and then I signed,
Speaker 6: and then crazy thing is, and I'm not saying I
Speaker 6: would have beat him. I probably wouldn't even be here
Speaker 6: talking to you guys if I thought him I'd be dead, but.
Speaker 3: Tell you, Mike would seconds.
Speaker 6: I have to agree with you. I have to agree
Speaker 6: with you. But you know, he lost. He lost the
Speaker 6: next fight that he fought, and I think it was
Speaker 6: because he was I mean, he was just he had
Speaker 6: too many distractions in his life and the other fighters.
Speaker 6: Mom had passed away the week before, so that kind
Speaker 6: of gave him my inspiration that he's doing it for mom.
Speaker 6: And you know, when stuff like that happens, that's why
Speaker 6: we play the game. You know, anybody can win on
Speaker 6: any Saturday. Anybody can win in the boxing ring. Anybody
Speaker 6: can win in the UFC. There's people that should win.
Speaker 6: But really anybody can win if they get tagged. You know,
Speaker 6: you gotta watch out you don't get tagged. But I
Speaker 6: told Louduva, who had taken me through the boxing workout.
Speaker 6: He had said, he said, you know, we need nine
Speaker 6: months of training. He goes, and we can get you ready,
Speaker 6: and he said, I laughed. He goes, the fight will
Speaker 6: not last more than three rounds. He said, either he
Speaker 6: will kill you or you will kill him. And I
Speaker 6: told him, and he's those are the two scenarios of game.
Speaker 6: And I told him, I said, look if he catches me,
Speaker 6: that's the only way I'm getting knocked out, because if
Speaker 6: I'm getting my butt kicked, I'm going to pick him
Speaker 6: up and throw him over the rope and get dequed, right.
Speaker 6: But I ain't gonna lose, So you know, it's probably
Speaker 6: you know, it's probably good, like like Cedric was saying,
Speaker 6: it's probably good that didn't happen because I wouldn't be
Speaker 6: here on this podcast.
Speaker 3: But it was.
Speaker 6: It was fun. It's a fun story to talk about
Speaker 6: because we still talk about it today. You know, there's
Speaker 6: people that say, were you supposed to fight Tyson? And
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, I was, you know, and it was
Speaker 6: it was entertaining, it was life has been interesting, to
Speaker 6: say the least.
Speaker 3: It's only what So what what do you got going
Speaker 3: on right now? Man?
Speaker 2: I know, like we're gonna talk about getting you back
Speaker 2: up to Michisti because I know last year we planned
Speaker 2: it and then the world blew up and he's.
Speaker 3: Lancy, Yeah, I'm gonna get things settled. But what's going
Speaker 3: on in your life right now?
Speaker 6: Just uh grinding away, you know, doing still doing photography,
Speaker 6: but putting another another iron in the fire for with work.
Speaker 6: I'm getting involved in in uh in the car industry.
Speaker 6: And that's a pretty broad thing to say, but I'm
Speaker 6: getting involved in the car industry as far as dealerships go.
Speaker 6: That's all I'll elaborate right now. The great thing is
Speaker 6: that will bring me to Michigan, Wisconsin and Indiana probably
Speaker 6: this fall, probably October November. Yeah, probably October November, as
Speaker 6: far as to go there and just to talk to
Speaker 6: some contacts. So you know, I've got iron in the
Speaker 6: fire with that. I've got an iron in the fire
Speaker 6: still with photography, but doing that for twenty years, still
Speaker 6: doing my public speaking. I just spoke to a special
Speaker 6: Olympics thing that was going on here about a month ago,
Speaker 6: you know, Still involved in a lot of that stuff
Speaker 6: and just trying to trying to physically, you know, repair
Speaker 6: all these things. Like you know, it's like if one
Speaker 6: thing goes wrong and you start getting it fixed, then
Speaker 6: another thing's going wrong and what is going on here?
Speaker 6: You know, And I'm like, well, you know, next month
Speaker 6: will be fifty eight and it's like, well, you know,
Speaker 6: played football lifted since I was fourteen years old, and
Speaker 6: these things we'll catch up to you. But I don't
Speaker 6: regret any of it was. It was worth all of it,
Speaker 6: even today when you know first ten minutes, first fifteen
Speaker 6: minutes of the day are brutal as far as lower
Speaker 6: back and just body aches and knees and ankles and
Speaker 6: wrists and elbows. But in spite of my pain, I
Speaker 6: stay grateful.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We're grateful to have you man as one of our
Speaker 2: brothers and a legend in the Green and Whites. Tony,
Speaker 2: like when you do get into the Midwest. I know
Speaker 2: you brought up Indiana with the Colts, and yes, we
Speaker 2: got to get you in East Lands.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure this time.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you'll be a guest. Cedric's in the booth,
Speaker 2: you know, call it, you know while what they're calling you.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can do a quarter for.
Speaker 6: Me, Cedric, Do you have like food.
Speaker 3: Of the booth? Listen? Tone the listen.
Speaker 6: Do I have to buy the food?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen.
Speaker 1: When we when we woke up with with straight horn,
Speaker 1: because straight horn is vi P.
Speaker 3: So what I do, no listen.
Speaker 1: I'm the background singer because what I realized is enough
Speaker 1: for everybody. It ain't got to be about me. So
Speaker 1: I walk behind him. And once he go to sit
Speaker 1: with Blahah, I walk out and now I become the
Speaker 1: celebrity and I get older. Blake lay me on. I
Speaker 1: get the caviar. I get the best deal, the best
Speaker 1: So the hot dogs like this, not the skinny one,
Speaker 1: the good hot dog. So you'll be with me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Your food is.
Speaker 6: Early, awesome, awesome. Yeah, I'm I'm excited. I this has
Speaker 6: been bothered. The swatstake has been bothering me for about
Speaker 6: two months now, and I think if I didn't mention it,
Speaker 6: it would it would I just have to express how
Speaker 6: I feel. And I think it's because of the George
Speaker 6: being under George Purlis and Saban and Morris Watts and
Speaker 6: Buck Nystrom and how they played the game and how
Speaker 6: they coached the game and and I know this is
Speaker 6: out of the hands of a lot of people, but
Speaker 6: when the schedule came out, I was like, obviously that
Speaker 6: first teams from Florida, but I've never heard of them.
Speaker 6: And then the third game, I'm like, I've never heard
Speaker 6: of that team. Why are we playing these teams? And
Speaker 6: I know, I know there's revenue business decisions. Look to
Speaker 6: Michigan status team well, the second That's what I said.
Speaker 6: The second team is Maryland, right, but the third yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't know. I can pronounce it. I can pronounce it.
Speaker 6: Don't ask me where they are because I'll tell you
Speaker 6: it's the Continental US. I wouldn't tell you if they
Speaker 6: were a West Coast East go And I'm not at
Speaker 6: all throwing shade on those teams in school. I'm just
Speaker 6: like we were taught. We were taught if you want
Speaker 6: to get to be the best, you have to play
Speaker 6: against the best, right And you know we played again,
Speaker 6: we would open up with USC, Florida State, Notre Dame.
Speaker 6: You know, those were all top five, top ten teams
Speaker 6: in the ranking. And even though sometimes we get our
Speaker 6: butts kicked, it got us better. So I ask myself,
Speaker 6: is this game gonna get me better as a player?
Speaker 6: From a player standpoint, and then from a team perspective,
Speaker 6: is this going to get our team better? By playing?
Speaker 6: As coach Perlis would say, the Sisters are the poor
Speaker 6: from Detroit, you know, And again that's not throwing any
Speaker 6: shade on those schools. And I understand there's business decisions
Speaker 6: to be made with schedules are made, But if they
Speaker 6: thought that this team, the third team we play, was
Speaker 6: going to move up in the ranks a couple of
Speaker 6: years down the road and be in the top ten.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We had the Raging Caguns until they backed out. That's
Speaker 3: why they had the Uh who are they?
Speaker 6: Who are the Raging Cagns? Is that l s U?
Speaker 3: That's where hey, big hey babe, that's he from l
Speaker 3: University of Louisiana. Right, Well, well, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, Tony Man, I don't know if you look
Speaker 1: at Vegas like I did, because I put my.
Speaker 3: Mortgage already up. They want to win more.
Speaker 1: They say four point five games, So for me, I
Speaker 1: love those first in the third game, yeah, I put.
Speaker 6: The whole If I was a betting guy, i'd be
Speaker 6: all in, right, But look, why are we there to
Speaker 6: play football? We're there to win and get better. And
Speaker 6: and again I gotta say this, it's no disrespect to
Speaker 6: those schools or those players or anything. I just would
Speaker 6: have to ask myself who's making these decisions? Because I
Speaker 6: want to be the best team in the in the NCAA.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be the thirteenth best team and
Speaker 6: I'll make playoffs.
Speaker 2: I want to be the best team I like that.
Speaker 2: I like the way you think, Tony. You think like
Speaker 2: a winner and that's why you are who you are.
Speaker 2: And I hope that that does resonate with sayings everywhere
Speaker 2: and understand like that's you need that. You do need
Speaker 2: that iron iron I am. You know, cupcakes don't sharper
Speaker 2: iron very well.
Speaker 6: If we're if we go three and oh in the
Speaker 6: first three games, do you think we're gonna move up
Speaker 6: to the top five spots in the country.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because they're going to look at strengthly schedule, but.
Speaker 3: We gonna get closer to my bit d that's all
Speaker 3: like win, there we go.
Speaker 6: Then the good thing is the fourth game. I got
Speaker 6: an easy one against the Scarlet Gray. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 6: is a fourth or fifth?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah. After I saw the third game, I kind of
Speaker 6: went a little bit blind. I was like, what is going.
Speaker 3: On, Tony? I want you to do your research on
Speaker 3: that thir.
Speaker 6: I think. I hope I don't get any emails, you know,
Speaker 6: and maybe they'll ask me to speak at their commencement
Speaker 6: next year. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you want?
Speaker 2: You want something before we let Tony go, man get
Speaker 2: him out, so you can get ready to that ton.
Speaker 1: Do me a favor, send me a copy of that
Speaker 1: sports illustrated Man, I'm gonna go around say this is
Speaker 1: my uncle. Man.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, So sign it. Man. It's
Speaker 3: a total sword man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang it up. I'm gonna hang it up
Speaker 1: with the rest of I need that picture, brother.
Speaker 6: Brother, there's a there's a few of those covers on
Speaker 6: dark boards, you know, but I will I I will
Speaker 6: send you one. I gotta get one, but I'll send
Speaker 6: you one. I'll definitely send you one.
Speaker 3: My man. I don't appreciate the time, brother.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I would love to see. We're gonna keep in touch.
Speaker 6: With you, absolutely one hundred. I'm grateful.
Speaker 2: I don't think the world's gonna blow up this year,
Speaker 2: this season, that we're gonna get through without any major issues.
Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, but I'm not sure the world they're
Speaker 6: gonna blow up before they've ember fail.
Speaker 3: Political statement another one.
Speaker 6: Just saying I'm not gonna say what's gonna happen, power grid,
Speaker 6: but you know, you just never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: I'm concerned. I'm very concerned.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: The right great to talk to you guys. Be good,
Speaker 6: keep on going. All right?
Speaker 2: All right, guys, Tony Mandrids, send you something else. Man, what's.
Speaker 3: You okay? Man? Whoa hey? Sword? What's your final thoughts? Man?
Speaker 2: Because we gotta we gotta talk something before we do that.
Speaker 2: The T shirts. Man, we have we got a nice
Speaker 2: new campaign going on for Oar Maria and Smith and
Speaker 2: his family. All the proceeds, all the proceeds go back
Speaker 2: to the family and they're go fund of me.
Speaker 3: Here it is.
Speaker 2: We're proud to announce the purpose in the pain number
Speaker 2: nineteen collection.
Speaker 3: All proceeds go back. So here it is. Nice shirts.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're flying off the shelves right now. Be
Speaker 2: sure to get one of these. You got crop tops
Speaker 2: for said, real mediums for Steve Smith and his crew.
Speaker 2: So look, anything you want, man, woman, child and s
Speaker 2: mediums can get them.
Speaker 3: Let's take Let's take it a step father.
Speaker 1: Let's say because I ordered my shirt too, and when
Speaker 1: I get my shirt, I want to take a picture.
Speaker 1: Let's put it in the chat. Everybody that get a picture,
Speaker 1: I mean a shirt. Let's order these shirts. Let's get
Speaker 1: them out. Let's really support and take a picture of it.
Speaker 1: Put it in the chattel. We'll put it online on
Speaker 1: the Instagram and just hey, let's let's all support and
Speaker 1: then again, you know, to my god, Sean, I was
Speaker 1: only joking about the money.
Speaker 3: I had just a joke with me and straight Horn.
Speaker 3: So but you know, straight.
Speaker 1: Horn want to give it to me, I take it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like that. It was all a joke, Sean.
Speaker 3: That's all it was. Brother, that's it.
Speaker 1: I just like this, and I want to bring laughter
Speaker 1: to the situation guy, because I wish somebody would have
Speaker 1: brought a little laughter to me with my situation. My
Speaker 1: mom passed.
Speaker 2: That's all, Sean. I love you, Sean, hey, and we
Speaker 2: love all of you as well. For Cedric from Jason
Speaker 2: straight Horn. This is part of MSU. Everybody, have a
Speaker 2: good night, God bless you.
Speaker 3: Go right