Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to part two of the
Surely You Can't Be Serious podcast Coming to America versus
Trading Places. I am here with my friend Jason Colvin.
Speaker 2: How's everybody doing. Good to see it, Thanks for joining us.
We're so glad to listen.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: One of the things I wanted to bring up is
similarly in both of these movies, Eddie Murphy breaks the
fourth wall.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many of his movies that
he does it in, but he does it a lot.
Certainly in the two movies that we're looking at, we
know that he does it. So he does it after
he gets arrested for you know, bumping into dan Aykroyd
and trying to give him his briefcase back as the
police car's about to pull away. It gives the camera
a look that's the breaking of the fourth wall in
case you didn't know that term. But he gives he
looks directly into the camera.
Speaker 2: My favorite, one of my favorite moments in the whole
movie where the Duke brothers sit Billy Ray Valentine down
at the table and they're explaining what they do right
commodities right, They're like.
Speaker 4: Pork Valleys, which is usued to make bacon what you
might find in a bacon and lettuce and tomato sandwich.
Speaker 2: And reviewers in the game, We're like these guys, they
come a complete idiot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens again in Coming to America and our
favorite scene.
Speaker 3: Whatever you like, And she's park like a dog. He
turned to looks right at him. Really happening.
Speaker 5: That is such a great way of bringing the audience
sing down the joke.
Speaker 3: You know, it's fantastic A big dog. How would we like.
Speaker 2: Stalden blood?
Speaker 3: What's it saying?
Speaker 5: See you next Wednesday?
Speaker 2: Okay? John Lettis has a thing where he mentions this
phrase called see you next Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear it? Come up?
Speaker 1: You know in our Thriller episode absolutely in the movie
scene that is in the Thriller video, that's the last
little bit of dialogue.
Speaker 3: You hear it says see you next Wednesday, right before
our girl Ola Ray walks out. Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then again, you see it in American Werewolf
in London Advertised is one of the porno movies. You
would have seen it in the Blues Brothers on a
big billboard that has like a big gorilla on it
deal with gorillas.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Well Orlandis has another thing with gorillas. But then of
course it comes up in trading places.
Speaker 2: It's on a poster in Ophelia's wall.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and it says directed by William Wyler and
starring Laurence Olivier. So then again it comes up coming
to America. It's a big poster on the subway wall, right.
So he chases Lisa down to apologize for not telling
her the truth.
Speaker 3: She's frustrated at him.
Speaker 1: And as the train car comes to a stop, you
see this giant poster on the wall. It's got this
kind of space looking woman on it, kind of a
Barberilla type of throwback. And then the name of the
movie is See You Next Wednesday, starring Jamie Lee Curtis.
That's cool, yeah, and Akroyd.
Speaker 2: So I saw him talk about this, right, So to
see You Next Wednesday thing, it's not just thrown into
any movie arbitrarily. What he talked about was when he
was a young guy, he wrote a script called see
You Next Wednesday. Anytime he cannibalizes anything from that script,
he gives a nod to it.
Speaker 1: And that script as I understand, I got quite a
few writing jobs. He struggled quite a while as a
fledgling director. He actually has an interesting story. He decides
he wants to be a director at eight years old
after seeing the Seventh Voyage of Sindbad and it's just
amazed at.
Speaker 3: The graphics on it.
Speaker 1: Loves the movie, goes home and says to his mom,
who makes movies, how does that work? You know, he's
just a little kid, and she's like, well, that's the director.
From that moment on, he decides he wants to be
a director, and so at sixteen, instead of going to
work at McDonald's like most kids do, he goes to
work in the mail room in twentieth Century Fox and
it's just fascinated by it and meets some people. And
then at some point a couple of years later, he
gets a call from a guy who's making the movie
Kelly's Heroes, which starts Clint Eastwood. He says, if you
can get out to Yugoslavia, I might be able to
get you a job on this movie. I mean, how
promising is that. He's in California, he's seventeen, eighteen years
old something like that, And then if you can get
out to Yugoslavia. Yeah, I might have a job for.
Speaker 3: You, right, So what does he do.
Speaker 1: He goes and gets his life savings, which that points
about twelve hundred bucks. The tickets are eight hundred, and
he buys his own ticket. But then he takes to
his mom and says, hey, the studio has offered me
a job and is paying my way out to Yugoslavia,
and shows her the ticket that he bought, and so
she lets him go, and so he goes out there.
He works on Kelly's Heroes, meets all these people, and
he does a wide array of things, stuntman work, writing work,
grunt work for about twenty thirty movies out there over
the course of a couple of years before he comes back.
And then he sits down for the to be a
part of the Director Skilled.
Speaker 3: You have they have a test that you've got to
take and he kills it.
Speaker 1: He aces the test, but then they call him in
they're like, I'm sorry, you didn't graduate from high school.
Speaker 3: We can't allow you to be a part of the
Director Skilled.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And this is all before Schlock comes out. So, yeah,
his his road was a hard road to get to
where he was.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And one more thing I wanted to mention
before we move on that subway station, yes with the
see You Next Wednesday poster, Yes, as a cheam is
chasing Li said, you know that subway station and I'm
going to mispronounce it, but it's the Hoyt.
Speaker 3: Sure Horn subway station. Yeah, we're from Oklahoma, not New York. Sorry,
that's right.
Speaker 2: Sorry, that is where the Michael Jackson Bad video was
filmed right there as well.
Speaker 1: Right, so we got a connection with Michael Jackson's bad video,
connection with Michael Jackson's thriller video, and then in another
video that John Landers directed, that Michael Jackson video black
or White, See You Next Wednesday is shown on the
window which Michael Jackson throws the garbage can through.
Speaker 2: And in case you missed it, episode one and two
of the Shirley Can't Be Series podcast covers Michael.
Speaker 1: Jackson Yeah bad versus Thriller and just as a side
note on the coming to America, the other stars in
addition to dan Aykroyd and Jamie La, Curtis mo Howard
and James Brown.
Speaker 4: Nice Yes, it's one hell of a day in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, should we talk about Eddie Murphy's
the characters that he did on Saturday Night Live, because
they were fantastic. He of course did fuck Wheat, Yes,
who's hilarious. Wolay, he was then of course mister Robinson.
Speaker 3: And then he was Gummy Gummy dammit. So here's something
I learned.
Speaker 1: There was an idea for a movie that they had
called Purple Wheat, which was for Weeks, which was the
movie Purple Rain, except it was Buckwheat.
Speaker 2: The French part, now that I can see is a
really funny skit.
Speaker 6: I don't know about the movie, but yeah, I'd watched
the whole movie.
Speaker 1: And so he's doing Saturday Night Live. He's done forty
eight hours. It becomes a big hit, and then Nick,
he's like, Nick, you should come host the show. We
have shows all the time. Nick shows up, and the
story that they give the people is Nick was sick,
like he had the flu. The fact is Nick Nolty
was drunk out of his mind, like he could not perform,
and so what ended up happening is they had Eddie
Murphy be the host of the show. It's the only
time that a cast member has been a host as well. Wow,
he starts off the show with Live from New York,
It's the Eddie Murphy Show, and everybody's like, WHOA, what
did he just do?
Speaker 3: Because that was not scripted that he say it like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk just a moment before we move on
too much. But so Billy Ray Valentine super funny. But
it is a version of Eddie Murphy. That character is
basically a smart LG version of Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw Eddie Murphy talking about it when he wanted
to do Coming to America. He wanted to play a
character that wasn't himself, right, So Prince Akim is not
really Eddie Murphy. I mean, you know all your parts time,
but Prince Akim is like my favorite Eddie Murphy character.
Speaker 1: He's well, he's genuine, he's real, he's honest, he's a
good he's got good morals. And we talked about Prince
and the Popper and Pygmalion being kind of the underlying
stories for trading places. John landis is Coming to America
is a Cinderella story, which I completely disagree with. It's
not remotely Cinderella at all. We got a prince who's
being poor. It's still the prince in the Popper story,
but it's not least his story. It's not her story.
I mean, it's not called I Met a Prince. It's
a different perspective on it. But the story actually was
something that they say was Eddie Murphy's, like Arsenal Hall said, yeah,
Eddie Murphy wrote this on a pad. But actually when
the movie came out, there was some litigation that happened
to a guy named Art Buckwald, who was a humorist,
had proposed a script several years earlier, eighty two or
eighty three. I think that was connected with John Landis,
connected with Eddie Murphy, and was the idea of a
prince from Africa coming to America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he sued and he won.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he won nine hundred thousand dollars, was the very
nine hundred thousand dollars. He got one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars and the attorney's got seven hundred and fifty No,
oh my gosh, it's terrible.
Speaker 3: They actually lawyers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't trust him. They ended up, you know, there
was going to be an appeal, but they ended up
settling before the appeal was finalized.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that was what the final
amount was, but that was what the original verdict was.
Speaker 2: Wow. One of the characters that Aidemericy plays in Coming
to America the barber. There's a couple of things I
want to mention about the barber. I'm bouncing around.
Speaker 1: That's that's We're bouncing around all over the This is
our scattershot show.
Speaker 2: All right. So he plays the barber, kind of the
older barber. Number one, every piece of advice that this
guy gives is spot on good advice. So he tells
him Number one. He's like, I'm interested in meeting women. Right,
Where can I meet women?
Speaker 1: We've been We've been to every bar in the Yeah.
Speaker 5: He said, oh man, you don't want to go there.
You want to go Where's a good place?
Speaker 2: Community events? Church? And then he says, hey, there's something
going on called the Black Awareness thing down here at
the community.
Speaker 3: Center at the church. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, it turns out that's where Hakem meets Lisa. Then
later Haikeem comes back and he wants to get his
soul glow on, right, and the guy said, man, now
you don't want to do that. He does. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: You don't want to do that, just you know, leave
your normal hair that nobody likes. That's just so.
Speaker 2: Later he comes back and asks him. He says, well,
how do I get in with a woman? And the
barber says, if you want to get in with the lady,
how do you do it? You get in good with
her father. And that's why he ends up going to McDowell.
So every piece of advice it gets from him is solid.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: He also this barber actually, when he's arguing with the
different barbers and the different people in his his barbershop,
they're talking about the greatest boxes of all time, right
and saw the old Jewish man played by Eddy Murphy
says what about Rocky Marciano And he says, there you go,
there you go. Every time I bring out boxes, there
there one white guy in the room brings up Rocky
Mars sound he bit.
Speaker 3: Joe Lord's ass.
Speaker 2: That fright he did? Whoop? You don't know what ass
Joe Lord?
Speaker 3: When it fall Frank came in.
Speaker 2: Zulus, Well you didn't never facing that. But Rocky Marciano
was twenty eight when he fought Joe Louis and Joe
Louis was thirty seven. You a Frank told me, he said, hey,
year old, those guys are hilarious.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just I'll sidetrack on that. Coming
to America, the beginning in Africa, in Zamunda is hilarious
from the get go. I mean, you've got white brows.
I mean, from that moment on, it's funny, funny, funny,
it's non stop funny thing. As soon as they get
into York, you've got this ridiculousness that happens with Jake
the Body remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake's biddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah you dumb yeap? What the dumb fuck mean? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Body by Jake was big for about five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's hard to talk about these movies with keeping it clean.
We can't cuss all the best lines.
Speaker 1: And so then of course they go into the barbershop
after they've found their place to stay, and you.
Speaker 2: You who's names let's talk about who's in the barber chair?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: So in coming to America, you've got a guy, a
Oscar winning actor who.
Speaker 3: Has no lines and no action. He's just sitting there smiling.
His name is he was getting jor Yeah.
Speaker 1: Apparently there was a scene that they filmed where you know,
he's just a kid in the movie and he's he says,
he tells the barber, Hey, I'm sorry, I don't have
any money to pay for my haircut, and then the
barber like cuts him. That's a big chunk out his
hair and if you look, you can tell it's fake hair.
Speaker 3: That he's got on.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have liked to see that scene in
that movie too, That would have been That would have
been funny.
Speaker 2: Did we talk about the bag handlers from Trading Places?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The Baghandlers were the comedy writing team from SNL Franken
and Davis. It was Al Franken and Tom Dames and
they they did a lot of comedy bits, but they
weren't the original guys who were supposed to play this part.
The original guys were Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis as
the McKinzie brothers, Right, Doug and Bob mackenzie.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, yeah, poser.
Speaker 2: How many times are we gonna say that?
Speaker 3: I hope every single both from sc TV Fame.
Speaker 1: Dave Thomas was also one of the co writers with
dan Aykroyd for Spies Like Us John LANs movie.
Speaker 2: That's Cool I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know
if we mentioned this or not, but Steven Stucker is
the Gorilla Handler.
Speaker 5: He's also Johnny from Airplane.
Speaker 3: The funniest guy in air Plan. I mean the whole movie.
Speaker 1: You know, we love it, but gosh, that guy's lines
Rapunzel speak pretty, playing at wheels, picked Stripe, Paradactyl.
Speaker 5: We were about ready to talk about.
Speaker 3: I have no idea where we are. This is the
scattershot let.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you start with trading places since it was
first Okay.
Speaker 2: So here are my friends moments when Eddie Murphy is
in the bathtub and Coleman turns on the jacuzzie for him.
Speaker 4: Say man, when I was growing up, we wanted to
cool and we had to fight in the tongue.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll shoot back with the other pub line
from Coming to America Father.
Speaker 4: It is not just that.
Speaker 2: It's everything, the cooking, the pampering, the dressing, the bathing.
Speaker 3: Actually I'd rather enjoy the bathing, but that's funny.
Speaker 2: My fifth favorite line, and coming to America. Oh ha,
it is my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 4: Do you think perhaps, just once I might use the
bathroom by myself. Most of music sir, why so my
fourth favorite line from Trading Places.
Speaker 2: Yes, when the Duke brothers give the guy his.
Speaker 3: Christmas bonus, uh huh, and.
Speaker 2: He says, here you go.
Speaker 5: I bet you thought we forgot about you. Here's your
Christmas bonus.
Speaker 2: He hands me a five dollars bill.
Speaker 5: Five dollars.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll go to the movies by myself.
Speaker 2: And then Bornver goes, Hey, half of that was from me.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love how they established at the beginning of those
guys are jerks right off the bat. Yes, you know,
they're leaving their mansion and everybody is like, hello, mister Duke,
thank you, mister Duke, Hello, mister Duke, and they're just not.
Speaker 5: They don't even say anything to anybody.
Speaker 1: Just it's all beneath them, right, And you kind of
get the same thing with dan Ekroyd. He's just but
he responds to people, but he's very much.
Speaker 3: Not looking at them morning.
Speaker 1: By the way, the first when he walks into Duke
and Duke for the first time and hands his coat
and his high and gloves to the gentleman, he's says hello,
mister Winthorpe, Hello folsy, and then hands them stuff that's
actually the producer of the movie.
Speaker 3: He's real names. Holding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So Trading Place's first funny part for me is whenever
Eddie Murphy is having the party at his house and
you have the of course absurd people taking women taking
off their clothes and dancing around naked, and Dunham Elliott
he's looking around and he's like, no, he's looking at me.
Now I'm drinking. He's drinking the drinks. He's having a
good time, he's kind of checking out.
Speaker 2: Hilarious that party scene at the very end when Eddie
Murphy gets sick of everybody free load and he comes
up to the two guys that are going to beat
him up in the cell and he's like, he's like,
let's go, you know, and the guy's like, man, you
are the most righteous and Eddie Murphy's like, yeah, right,
just get the out of here.
Speaker 1: So whenever, whenever Eddie Murphy is in the car for
the first time, that whole scene is hilarious. We're going
to start you with eighty thousand dollars a year, excupid.
Speaker 4: It's a practical joke.
Speaker 3: These guys are a couple of It's not appropriate, but
it's funny rights, my next move man.
Speaker 2: The chauffeur doesn't say anything, thank you've been heavy, but
he's he's.
Speaker 1: Talking to when he's getting introduced to Randall and Mortimer,
he's like Morte, all right, Randy, Randy Ady Jackson from
the Jackson Vive.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Okay. So the other laugh out loud moment.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you who the actor is, but whenever
after dan Aykroyd has been arrested, after Winthorpe has been arrested,
and he's getting bailed out and his girlfriend is waiting
for him, and the guy like move the ladies follow
asleep and she's.
Speaker 3: Trying to put you off, and that comes his down
next to hers. Is that sure prayer?
Speaker 1: That's a nice I don't know who the actor is.
Speaker 3: I try to figure out how that it was. I can't.
I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: Just the smelly guy on the bench and Clarence beaks funny, funny, funny.
Speaker 3: Paul Gleeson as the jerk.
Speaker 2: He plays the jerk beautifully.
Speaker 1: I mean in the best movies, like he's the jerk
guy in Breakfast Club, he's the jerk guy. In Dieard,
he's the jerk guy. In this movie. I mean, he's awesome, awesome.
Here's an interesting another.
Speaker 3: You know, let's got scattershot baby. All right, so Clarence
beaks that part. Was originally supposed.
Speaker 1: To go to see Gordon Liddy, which historically is an
interesting kind of guy.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 1: They don't want to take away from everything he's done,
but the interesting things about him are he was a
part of the Richard Nixon campaign, managed that campaign, and
then ultimately got caught up in the Watergate scandal and
got sentenced to twenty years for that. And I found
out later on he served like one hundred and two
days in solitary confinement.
Speaker 3: I can't even wow, I can't. I don't know how
that works.
Speaker 1: But he was an amazing guy, whatever the politics are,
an incredible human being accomplishing things obviously, But then Jimmy
Carter lets him out after five years in the interest
of justice, and you know, Landis, It's obvious, number one,
It's obvious that Landis is about a scattershot as this
episode is, right, he just goes all over the place.
I mean, I've had clients who talk like that, who've
been deemed incompetence.
Speaker 3: That guy, okay, but anyway, he's obviously a very liberal guy.
Speaker 1: See Gordon Lyddy is this very conservative guy, and so
Landis wants him to play the part of Clarence Beaks,
the ultimate jerk.
Speaker 3: Guy in the movie, right right, right.
Speaker 1: So he ends up not being able to do it,
but they still manage to get him in. As Paul
Gleeson is sitting in the train car before the other
people getting on come in. He's reading a book and
the book is Will the Autobiography of s.
Speaker 3: Gordon Liddy.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. You know when you mentioned Paul Gleeson, they
wanted him to reprise the part of Clarence Speaks.
Speaker 3: In Coming to America, but he.
Speaker 2: Was busy shooting this little film.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever heard of this called Dieharden.
Speaker 1: Oh you seem to remember something about that agent Dwayne Johnson.
Speaker 2: What is it, Dwayne Dwayne T Robinson. I can't remember
his name in that.
Speaker 3: I think that may be right, if only we would
tell us. I'm just thinking of the line, Oh, you're
in charge.
Speaker 2: I'm up here to look like you're in charge of check.
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy who just got.
Speaker 2: Dwayne T. Robinson for the wind.
Speaker 3: Hey, where to go? Yes, you have to get some
new FBI.
Speaker 2: Got all right. My second favorite line in Trading Place
is Danna Ackroyd has tried to commit suicide. Anyway, they
rescue him, bringing back to his house and he is
in his original house, and of course Coleman's there helping
nursing back to health. When he comes to, he's like,
oh Coleman, now it's just this terrible dream.
Speaker 3: It was all because of this terrible, awful negro.
Speaker 2: And Eddie Murphy is standing there and he's like, hey,
wait at what And then he sees him. He jumps
out of bed and starts choking him and he's holding
down his chair and baking. He's head on the floor.
Speaker 5: Last does get.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: I like the I like it when they're looking at
Clarence peaks inside of the ape suit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, let him it's Christmas. Let him have
their fun.
Speaker 2: The best line in Trading Places is at the very
last scene.
Speaker 4: Looking God, Billy Ray really good?
Speaker 3: It all right?
Speaker 1: So coming to America. Best lines, This one is a
good one. James Earld Jones delivers the line after the
Queen's speech, delivers the line of there's a very fine
line between love and nausea. And it's not necessarily funny
because of his delivery, but because of her reaction. She's
got a bunch of great reactions throughout this movie.
Speaker 3: He's funny. James O.
Speaker 2: Jones has some hilarious lines in there. I'm gonna jump
up to my number two. But Eddie Murphy says, I'm
a man who has never tied his own shoes. He's like, wrong,
you're a prince who has never tied your own shoes.
And he says, I tied my own shoes once. It
is an overrated experience.
Speaker 3: So funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My fourth favorite line from Coming to America is the
bonus scene at the very end of the movie where
the Jewish guy Saul is telling his joke.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my gosh, can I tell the joke? Go yeah, okay.
Man walks into a.
Speaker 1: Est he listen, No, we'll just play that joke because
I can't do it.
Speaker 4: Jes right, stop right there, stop right there. Man. Man
goes into the restaurant. You're listening. And man goes into
a restaurant. He's just down, He's having a bowl of soup.
He says to the Veda, Veda, come taste of soup,
says something wrong with the soup.
Speaker 3: Just taste of soup. He says, there's something wrong with
the soup.
Speaker 4: Soup too Well, your tasted soup is wrong with the
soup too cold.
Speaker 3: Well, you're just taste of soup. All right, I'll taste
the soup. Where's the spoon?
Speaker 2: Aha? I still call that?
Speaker 3: Why are you know? From funning up bash?
Speaker 1: Next favorite part is whenever he comes out and he
starts singing, sheeeee yr quee.
Speaker 3: To me, Oh my gosh, number one, it's just hilarious.
That is happening. But then you get some of those
lines in there, free from infection.
Speaker 2: I need more? What are you talking about when he's singing?
Speaker 6: So yeah, when the guy, when he's singing chees your que,
she's perfection, she's free from infection.
Speaker 5: That's hilarious that that was improved by that guy.
Speaker 3: Really? Yes, Oh he killed it. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: My wife's birthday the other day, and when we lit
the candles, I was thinking, cheer.
Speaker 1: There's some great I mean there, it's funny, funny throughout,
and there's some real laugh out loud moments. Okay, So
when the landlord is taking them up to the apartment,
telling him about you know, it's only got one window
that faces a brick wall and rented it out to
a blind man. They open it up and the tapes
on the floor and he goes, damn shame.
Speaker 2: When they walk by the bathroom, he's like, here's the
bathroom you gotta share. Not an insect problem, but you boys, mafka,
you're used to that.
Speaker 3: Then it comes out of the window.
Speaker 2: Good boy, my neighbors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you do. Oh.
Speaker 2: And that and the other scene in the barbershop when
he's talking about me, Martin Luther.
Speaker 5: King, I walking out to set out of my own
benefit walk no feeling good.
Speaker 2: I walk around the corner.
Speaker 4: Man woke up, hit me in my chest, right, I'll
fall on the ground right.
Speaker 2: And I look up at doctor Martin Luther King.
Speaker 5: I said, doctor King.
Speaker 2: He said somebody else. Man, you ain't never met the King.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the whole scene where they're in
the bar and all of the women that come in
and the first one that they meet and she's so smiley,
and then I have a secret.
Speaker 2: I worshiped the devil.
Speaker 4: Oh, my name is Jesus, and I'm the best all
the d j's want to feel my brus.
Speaker 2: The worst one of all is that one lady who's like,
I need a man satisfying me shot.
Speaker 5: Some guys do an our hour and a half shot,
I need more. That's it.
Speaker 1: And then Arsenio Hall playing the Preacher with the girls,
is it's bordering on that? Is it too inappropriate?
Speaker 3: Funny? But man is it funny.
Speaker 2: His dad was actually a preacher, so that's why he
did that character so well.
Speaker 3: He nailed it. Man, it's perfect.
Speaker 4: Chocolate.
Speaker 7: You remember him as Joe the policeman from What's Going
Down episode of That's My Mama, Mister Randall Lawson and
then that whole bit it's so awkward, It's so wonderfully
awkward and hilarious at the same time.
Speaker 3: And then sexy Chocolate stomp stomp, Sensey.
Speaker 6: Chocolate drops the mic does the point, walks off stage and.
Speaker 2: He comes up.
Speaker 5: He has he has to pick up the microphone from
the ground.
Speaker 3: Let's give it again another radam of blaws.
Speaker 2: Mister Randy was good and terrible. Actually, when when Randy
Watson performs the Greatest Love of All you have to
be like an eighties music fan to really get this,
but he mixes up the lyrics.
Speaker 3: Yes, he screws up the lines.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think they that's only you getting that
kind of joke. Yeah, I missed that one completely.
Speaker 2: My favorite seeing in the entire movie, though, is the
Duke's brothers see and it's it's so satisfying to see
that come full circle. There are bums on the street
after what happened in Trading Places. I think it's interesting
that these movies sort of live in the same universe.
Speaker 3: We're back.
Speaker 1: So when Prince a Kiem starts, I have recently been
placed in charge of garbage.
Speaker 3: This is flirtation. When you think of God, he think
of Aki. So this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So Coming to America is the first time that Eddie
Murphy is playing a romantic lead part. You know, this
is all of the movies that he's done. This is
the first time that he's got a love interest in
the movie. And I think he nails it. I mean,
he's he's charming, he's lovable. You know, he's goofy at
the beginning, which creates a sympathy for him.
Speaker 2: He does pull it off. I'm totally agreeing with you.
Are we moving into now the comments and criticisms on
how we feel about the movies.
Speaker 3: Sure, U, let's you get more funny lines from Coming.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can do this all day. But yeah,
so Coming to America does a great job. Actually, in
my opinion, it's very, very funny the first half and
then it kind of moves into this romance and I'm
not critical of it.
Speaker 3: Because he pulls it off. Oh yeah, he absolutely pulls
it off.
Speaker 1: The scene on the swing and by the way, we're
about to leave funny lines and move it into something else,
but you just made remember the part that is also hilarious,
which is king or not I'll break.
Speaker 3: My foot off?
Speaker 1: And apparently John Amos had lived that line, you know,
was it was not quite so, you know rough he
thought it needed more punch.
Speaker 2: Cleo McDowell is awesome.
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite characters in that movie.
Speaker 1: Just real quick, let's catch on Darryl too, because Darryl
is such a good jerk.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: We talked about knowing that the Dukes are bad guys
from the beginning with because they refuse to talk to
anybody that's beneath them. The exact same thing is happening
with Daryl, who walks in and.
Speaker 3: You know, Cleo's kissing his butt and graps.
Speaker 1: The shake that's supposed to go on to a little
kid strugberry right, and then he's I mean, he just
you know, wearing clothes must be a new experience. Bet
you guys played games like Chase the Monkey, So coming
to America I think is a great comedy. I don't
have anything bad to say about this man. I enjoy
this movie.
Speaker 2: I told you before that the character of Prince a
Kim is my favorite Eddie Murphy character, maybe between that
and Shrek or that in Donkey. He's a gentleman, he's noble.
He gets mad at Samuel L. Jackson for using obscenities,
which is kind of funny. But it turns into a
romantic comedy that that I think works. I think it's
got heart.
Speaker 5: I think you want to see them end up together.
Speaker 3: I think as a movie it works.
Speaker 1: The bit at the end where he's chasing her down
and the people on the subway are watching them go
back and forth is a classic John Lander's bit, and
he had done it just a bit before with the dog.
Speaker 3: He's not the dog watching back and forth.
Speaker 1: Between the events unfolding between Cleo and the King and Queen,
and it's just it's a neat it's a neat bit
that he does. But I love that kind of romantic
where they're like, what's gonna happen? They're, they're, they're, they're
the audience. It's great, great little bit.
Speaker 6: Just there's so many funny lines, Like I when when
Simmy has had his money come and taken down and
he goes to send the telegram, that lady who's at
the telegram office is hilarious.
Speaker 1: I need to look her up because she's she's hysterical.
And then she's like, you've shared three hundred thousand, and
he's like, you think I should ask for more?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: As long as you're asking, why don't we go for
a cool million?
Speaker 3: You do not think that would be too much?
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hilarious. Let's go opinion now, Okay, are we
ready to do opinion?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, go okay.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I enjoy I enjoy trading places more.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a little more absurd, it's a
little more lighthearted. It's funny from beginning to end. I
think Coming to America is brilliantly funny At the beginning
and then sort of fades into this romance. But it works,
and so I enjoy the movie a lot. So if
I put them on the scales, I'm tipping a little
more towards Trading Places.
Speaker 3: I see you.
Speaker 1: Now, it's kind of interesting because I have like the
reverse perception of your thing. I don't think that Trading
Places is funny from beginning to end. I like, you
love both movies, love watching them both, but you've got
a lot of build up that happens on Trading Places.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't realize how long the build up was.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, my memory was just of Jamie
Lee Curtis's naked movies, and.
Speaker 3: So I had forgotten.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an hour into the movie before that happens,
and so you've got this kind of long build up
that's not funny. It's just a setup. And so the
difference I think is with Coming to America. Yes, it
is funny from beginning to end. I mean even I
mean even at the point that the that the King
and Queen are showing up, it's still funny. A little
late for the Christmas path. This is beautiful? Is that velvet?
Speaker 3: I mean, it just.
Speaker 1: Never it never stops being funny throughout the movie Now
Trading Places.
Speaker 3: I just it's not quite as funny.
Speaker 1: It's a good story, and I like the way it
plays out, but I think it's just kind of a
little absurd because it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: More realistic, but it's a little absurd.
Speaker 1: Number one first absurd thing is Clarence peaks in as
the security expert, saying, you know, put your hand on
the guy's right shoulder, put your other hand in his
left pock. I mean, how dumb. I mean, would anybody
actually believe that?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: Ridiculous? This giant red x's on the dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then after that, like Eddie Murphy is instantly possessive
and angry about his possessions, and then he's.
Speaker 3: Instantly on the cover of the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I mean, that's just this is
happening in a course of a couple of days. I mean,
it's just a little bit too crazy.
Speaker 2: It's absurd.
Speaker 1: John Landis needed a little more like of a montage
scene where we're sitting, Oh, okay, these are the things
that are happening as time passes. But instead it's just like,
Boom it happens, Boom it happens, and you're just like,
I can't believe this has happening that fast.
Speaker 3: That's where I am on the tipping of the scales.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Coming to America because funny from
beginning in I still love Trading Places.
Speaker 3: This is going to be a close call anytime.
Speaker 1: But because Coming to America it's NonStop comedy from beginning
to end and still manages to give you a compelling
romantic story, It's got to be the winner in my book.
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds good. I love both movies. Like you said,
I don't know how much more we can say. I
laugh out loud when I watch both of these movies.
If you haven't seen one of these movies, yeah you
need to correct that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you probably should have not listened to this.
Speaker 2: This episode makes absolutely no sense to you.
Speaker 1: Oh spoiler alert, the last hour has been a spoiler
for both movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, sorry about that.
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for hearing us all out on
this crazy, all over the place kind of episode.
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